From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 1 08:20:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFFD258493A for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 08:20:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D55D25804F4 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 08:07:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo209 ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150201151212.XJCC20038.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo209> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 10:12:12 -0500 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by eastrmimpo209 with cox id n3CB1p00N57wa98013CCqm; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 10:12:12 -0500 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=XeSQsWOZjSRKkrY4xr4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=O-skVyKxxEeT_sGv3aEA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net To: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 09:12:11 -0600 Thread-Index: AdA+L8vYRUfnwgfMTGOcBkWeipGm8A== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Slave cylinder push rod question From: Andy Walker via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, fellas: I'm putting some of the finishing touches on my mechanical/engine compartment restoration and I find myself now dealing with, as the English say, the "fiddly bits." The problem of the hour is my clutch slave cylinder pushrod. A little background is in order here.years ago, a friend of mine and I made a longer pushrod BEFORE I had discovered that my slave cylinder bracket was broken at the lower mounting point (I was getting a lot of deflection in the bracket when the pedal was pushed and didn't realize the bracket was broken.thus the longer pushrod to give me more clutch). I didn't have the original pushrod anyway back then (the previous owner had used a piece of all-thread.) so I don't have an original to fall back on or to measure for replacement. So, my question is two-fold.first, does anyone have an original pushrod that they could spare to help me finish this puppy up? Second, if no one has one to sell, does anyone know what the length is on the pushrod ONLY without the bullet-looking end on it that goes into the clutch fork arm? If I had the proper measurement, I could at least cut mine down to where it would work. By the way, I have the bullet end; all I need is the rod. Can someone help me out? Thanks much, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 1 10:50:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4C12584B2A for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 10:50:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo101.cox.net (eastrmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.213]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C367E25849B3 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 10:41:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo110 ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150201174552.HTR27033.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo110> for ; Sun, 1 Feb 2015 12:45:52 -0500 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by eastrmimpo110 with cox id n5lr1p00B57wa98015lrZP; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 12:45:52 -0500 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=dbe3ipsn646Q_Aj5jjYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=6tQpL_s3KxMA:10 a=-dTV6QdIAIwA:10 a=HfGDi5eATP0A:10 a=4covuNi-HDIA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=ToVJ3ElQYQRR3OJLJVQA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net To: Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 11:45:52 -0600 Thread-Index: AdA+Rrw9XGLvVwELSnmqlw/zWUBFwA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Starter cable question From: Andy Walker via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Guys: Can anyone out there tell me the length of the original starter cable that runs from the solenoid to the starter? Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 2 10:11:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082B12580B7C for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:11:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7517325801BB for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 09:59:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150202170416.QKMA29716.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 12:04:16 -0500 Received: from eastrmwml208 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id nV4G1p00L4h0NJL01V4G2T; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 12:04:16 -0500 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=idPkkheuIolniIP-ewYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=tB-S4dvqUjUd_nFa:21 a=MwHTsT7jg1PXsF7R:21 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 12:04:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 12:04:16 -0500 To: tigers@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket From: awtiger--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, guys: My question deals with the under-engine metal fuel line that runs from the bell housing area on the passenger side of the car and curves upward in front of the engine to the fuel filter. Isn't there supposed to be some kind of bracketry involved in holding this line in place? The damn (dumb...whatever...) previous owner must have figured that it would be "good enough" to zip-tie the fuel line to the hydraulic brake line that runs along the front suspension crossmember. I've looked in the factory parts manual for an illustration but there is none. Can anyone shed some light on how this fuel line is supported? As always, thanks a million, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 2 10:41:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BC72584F05 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:41:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f52.google.com (mail-qg0-f52.google.com [209.85.192.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 818DB258074C for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:34:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id z107so48526160qgd.11 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 09:38:49 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=EP90DZPwgTewWP6PDNeOPGE/WrB4UJTI9XpGuVq7CPQ=; b=ZyNeQLTvbNz+oyUszROekuQbtglcyeR1uc2JJnVzHRItRTwOcaGj7pu4sxGzbdPRTr HaH7IZrtgF5X5aulfhJXrsnlNKT/JJjS8t6pLqs/su/UxcEMItzm5BjMWFga/6y1wHdz ASo1NCO0xz22oOnho3yfn79CFxY5Q0L7eQPMlA0QcdqKVBMRpAwl4O92gOo6BZTjqgOS BG8kxbCl6AmWTH0oE8QxJCqrtLoI8BSjWLxYdUVt1rpDPmyKfEpUM6nWgQg/GoMkw15S AZcdYwM/ZBP5XC1EmBcnvu9gnBjhsf4S8msPXp4FaqUMqBw1XmNbfrn+PsCs9FLwT2km VFrQ== m2mr44147621qag.13.1422898729551; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 09:38:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.227.33 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 09:38:49 -0800 (PST) References: <20150202120416.LW07P.292637.imail@eastrmwml208> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 12:38:49 -0500 To: Andy Walker Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket From: Tom Parker via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Andy, Yeah, a bracket hanging off the bellhousing. It'll take a bit of work, but if you need it, I can get a picture. Tom '67 Mark 2 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:04 PM, awtiger--- via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Hey, guys: > > My question deals with the under-engine metal fuel line that runs from the > bell housing area on the passenger side of the car and curves upward in > front of the engine to the fuel filter. Isn't there supposed to be some > kind of bracketry involved in holding this line in place? The damn > (dumb...whatever...) previous owner must have figured that it would be > "good enough" to zip-tie the fuel line to the hydraulic brake line that > runs along the front suspension crossmember. I've looked in the factory > parts manual for an illustration but there is none. Can anyone shed some > light on how this fuel line is supported? > > As always, thanks a million, > Andy Walker > Edmond, OK > B382001600LRXFE > TAC #740 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 2 10:56:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00DC02584F5C for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:56:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f54.google.com (mail-qg0-f54.google.com [209.85.192.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B3325808C6 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:52:23 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id q108so48630076qgd.13 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 09:56:54 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mo9SUN+RLyeVfuHYiuT4agtD5WQbVtaiouoHzxm1paE=; b=r6mqpBjKml6+otTCc6mNx/HWpmZypRbtPTRu6gEwxSC0GiBFkV7HEvhuNMpcX+heou NCjB6ceo0JhLxQu6cR60a1B28b0dgHwR2UUkQNznIAwP/45jaaEWhm1xtqxo5nvWnjai l6WfKYS+z/V2CPzEG7UzmLM+U2o4ktoPI8ZXhQMS0K/lVrJ9NJXuEdQJeh1Nr/KBL4po JzoF2BZ67iVA+XvbUe/u1lFPovI5B+hFDRhiq7Qhr8HvH02dhrnoZmglnmp2jWGqIrr+ TYHn+c9Cfbaacy90vPXQ7IJirMEx1TL/8rhTv9qkBENYAOSsUr6Jxi2AMSRT9iycg+V9 hNPw== r13mr44386793qag.12.1422899814649; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 09:56:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.227.33 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 09:56:54 -0800 (PST) References: <20150202120416.LW07P.292637.imail@eastrmwml208> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 12:56:54 -0500 To: Andy Walker Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket From: Tom Parker via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Correction: it;s off the lower starter motor bolt. Picture should show up soon. Tom On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tom Parker wrote: > Andy, Yeah, a bracket hanging off the bellhousing. It'll take a bit of > work, but if you need it, I can get a picture. > > Tom > '67 Mark 2 > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:04 PM, awtiger--- via Tigers < > tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Hey, guys: >> >> My question deals with the under-engine metal fuel line that runs from >> the bell housing area on the passenger side of the car and curves upward in >> front of the engine to the fuel filter. Isn't there supposed to be some >> kind of bracketry involved in holding this line in place? The damn >> (dumb...whatever...) previous owner must have figured that it would be >> "good enough" to zip-tie the fuel line to the hydraulic brake line that >> runs along the front suspension crossmember. I've looked in the factory >> parts manual for an illustration but there is none. Can anyone shed some >> light on how this fuel line is supported? >> >> As always, thanks a million, >> Andy Walker >> Edmond, OK >> B382001600LRXFE >> TAC #740 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 2 10:57:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4C72584F70 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:57:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08DB825844D7 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:55:31 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id l6so31437535qcy.13 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:00:02 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=BxJf3aA2r4kLvqF/QOBlpaCLYrn3uU5E35dWeAXjbPY=; b=pPDlIh58jNsYVlY9cFJZKAtrNsmJ5d6UB0bHdqTwA8EFGzRkIX6JJoKeqnx4CFBm4Y IiKexyPib0TQ7Kt3vAMJqLFnCbInpoLFtvJUov+sgUgW268vSLu1OgfUeYwS+t99gZxy WFo+cfTYMVivAo0tfGbVYEQjClCKFWM5IYYxJs9HPexRFzntGo5V83bGgn7OfyiqNEv3 sskmZQNpfm/Z2avvFc4duT95G77GkaHF3OPnEL9Lih+uUunZxNp0e9DOw/L2VM3ukJDd qOZKbEyhd/LPuxDi5k18ToLJRjnL8J2DOZVOSYKJEce2Yavo9MbtBbURc1u742QvNo/v +Tcw== fl10mr676437qcb.24.1422900002141; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 10:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.227.33 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 10:00:02 -0800 (PST) References: <20150202120416.LW07P.292637.imail@eastrmwml208> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:00:02 -0500 To: Andy Walker Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket From: Tom Parker via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I had the original steel lines, and when I installed the stainless fuel lines I (more or less) followed the original contours. To keep the line away from the exhaust they routed it below the starter and up along the oil pan to the front of the engine. Tom On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Tom Parker wrote: > Correction: it;s off the lower starter motor bolt. Picture should show up > soon. > > Tom > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tom Parker > wrote: > >> Andy, Yeah, a bracket hanging off the bellhousing. It'll take a bit of >> work, but if you need it, I can get a picture. >> >> Tom >> '67 Mark 2 >> >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:04 PM, awtiger--- via Tigers < >> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: >> >>> Hey, guys: >>> >>> My question deals with the under-engine metal fuel line that runs from >>> the bell housing area on the passenger side of the car and curves upward in >>> front of the engine to the fuel filter. Isn't there supposed to be some >>> kind of bracketry involved in holding this line in place? The damn >>> (dumb...whatever...) previous owner must have figured that it would be >>> "good enough" to zip-tie the fuel line to the hydraulic brake line that >>> runs along the front suspension crossmember. I've looked in the factory >>> parts manual for an illustration but there is none. Can anyone shed some >>> light on how this fuel line is supported? >>> >>> As always, thanks a million, >>> Andy Walker >>> Edmond, OK >>> B382001600LRXFE >>> TAC #740 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> tigers@autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 2 11:57:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D212584986 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 11:57:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A092580930 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 11:52:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo109 ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150202185658.VEVP29716.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo109> for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:56:58 -0500 Received: from eastrmwml208 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo109 with cox id nWwy1p0054h0NJL01WwyDD; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:56:58 -0500 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=h22itpIotFm9-PzXimQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=AjnyiXVnTc1PGfeE:21 a=0Lgrk74JYoKNQ-ri:21 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:56:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:56:58 -0500 To: Tom Parker Sensitivity: Normal Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket From: awtiger--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tom: Thank you so much for the picture; I hope it wasn't too much trouble. That will certainly help me, however, with my fuel line routing. I take it that is the only bracket on the line? Is there no means of support as the line passes the side and/or front of the engine? If not, I would just assume it would hang from the fuel filter connection with the carburetor feeder line, right? Thanks again, Andy ---- Tom Parker wrote: > I had the original steel lines, and when I installed the stainless fuel > lines I (more or less) followed the original contours. To keep the line > away from the exhaust they routed it below the starter and up along the oil > pan to the front of the engine. > > Tom > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Tom Parker wrote: > > > Correction: it;s off the lower starter motor bolt. Picture should show up > > soon. > > > > Tom > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tom Parker > > wrote: > > > >> Andy, Yeah, a bracket hanging off the bellhousing. It'll take a bit of > >> work, but if you need it, I can get a picture. > >> > >> Tom > >> '67 Mark 2 > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:04 PM, awtiger--- via Tigers < > >> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > >> > >>> Hey, guys: > >>> > >>> My question deals with the under-engine metal fuel line that runs from > >>> the bell housing area on the passenger side of the car and curves upward in > >>> front of the engine to the fuel filter. Isn't there supposed to be some > >>> kind of bracketry involved in holding this line in place? The damn > >>> (dumb...whatever...) previous owner must have figured that it would be > >>> "good enough" to zip-tie the fuel line to the hydraulic brake line that > >>> runs along the front suspension crossmember. I've looked in the factory > >>> parts manual for an illustration but there is none. Can anyone shed some > >>> light on how this fuel line is supported? > >>> > >>> As always, thanks a million, > >>> Andy Walker > >>> Edmond, OK > >>> B382001600LRXFE > >>> TAC #740 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> tigers@autox.team.net > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 2 12:41:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE2A2584C55 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 12:41:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f49.google.com (mail-qa0-f49.google.com [209.85.216.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDD52584EC1 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 12:27:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id v8so30535529qal.8 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:31:49 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=UbzFsU5uc27WXERups5eXKI4XYDJE0yxktDYd+Aa4R8=; b=oEFt0cUJuG/tlSr1wjjLzrpdAQlyeMh7ZFolck5jCHyE5CNFopqKrOg5pDLgDp2olG giRyUNll3kZo5ZzyoyNSg/J0W/W8Gj8jKHDCyz+SwPRC2hiD1tQ7go937+YUqaxhjo+q 7Flzz4mKFP/KA30xQK+c2NnZ5A8W9iAiarzALtthnVxM2rFetvk0v7OWwSH1lmOFR69f v6eLGgWRkYz0uDMYZn8u+9DEv22GqQZcc01gttcht9gy6WtJ3LuRnQTqWnIJsTqjRBXf /8raLUCDaz2kHyblXtQpL94A7kL+OjR+bkUBWa0GLRGJeD3si8g3xkT+lIWuB3sb0HxX Zwpg== fl10mr1538627qcb.24.1422905509514; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:31:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.227.33 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 11:31:49 -0800 (PST) References: <20150202135658.AL4R2.293801.imail@eastrmwml208> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 14:31:49 -0500 To: Andy Walker Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket From: Tom Parker via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Andy, The original 2BBL carb connection to the fuel line was a hard - flared fitting on the line directly to the carb, the connection was on the right side (facing front) of the block. So there was one mount, on the starter bolt. The rest was hard line. When I changed over to the 4BBL 4160 Holley, of course, this changed; The fuel line connection was on the Left (facing Front) side of the carb, and I added a mount to the left (facing Front) side of the water pump, and a couple "rubber" fuel line hoses, one on the right side of the water pump, @ 4" long, and one on the left from just past the mount to the carb. The 4" piece served two purposes, 1) as a vibration damper, although it probably isn't needed for that, and 2) because routing the line across the engine in one piece was darn near impossible, at least not with the car on jack stands. Again, pictures if you need them. If you're a purist, with the original ford 4BBl carb on the original Ford manifold, your input here will be appreciated, I'm sure, by the Concours guys. My Kitty is a driver; the stock pieces / parts live in a couple boxes in my garage; the parts on the engine are Edelbrock Aluminum. I built it for drive-ability and ease of maintenance (an oxymoron here?). Tom '67 Mark 2 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:56 PM, wrote: > Tom: > > Thank you so much for the picture; I hope it wasn't too much trouble. > That will certainly help me, however, with my fuel line routing. I take it > that is the only bracket on the line? Is there no means of support as the > line passes the side and/or front of the engine? If not, I would just > assume it would hang from the fuel filter connection with the carburetor > feeder line, right? > > Thanks again, > Andy > > ---- Tom Parker wrote: > > I had the original steel lines, and when I installed the stainless fuel > > lines I (more or less) followed the original contours. To keep the line > > away from the exhaust they routed it below the starter and up along the > oil > > pan to the front of the engine. > > > > Tom > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Tom Parker > wrote: > > > > > Correction: it;s off the lower starter motor bolt. Picture should show > up > > > soon. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tom Parker > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Andy, Yeah, a bracket hanging off the bellhousing. It'll take a bit of > > >> work, but if you need it, I can get a picture. > > >> > > >> Tom > > >> '67 Mark 2 > > >> > > >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:04 PM, awtiger--- via Tigers < > > >> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hey, guys: > > >>> > > >>> My question deals with the under-engine metal fuel line that runs > from > > >>> the bell housing area on the passenger side of the car and curves > upward in > > >>> front of the engine to the fuel filter. Isn't there supposed to be > some > > >>> kind of bracketry involved in holding this line in place? The damn > > >>> (dumb...whatever...) previous owner must have figured that it would > be > > >>> "good enough" to zip-tie the fuel line to the hydraulic brake line > that > > >>> runs along the front suspension crossmember. I've looked in the > factory > > >>> parts manual for an illustration but there is none. Can anyone shed > some > > >>> light on how this fuel line is supported? > > >>> > > >>> As always, thanks a million, > > >>> Andy Walker > > >>> Edmond, OK > > >>> B382001600LRXFE > > >>> TAC #740 > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> > > >>> tigers@autox.team.net > > >>> > > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > >>> Unsubscribe: > > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 2 12:58:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C47825850C9 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 12:58:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f44.google.com (mail-qa0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDA425805ED for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 12:35:35 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id w8so30678507qac.3 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:40:07 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3CeR3zBFVf2TzgDPvGPApNv7cKRzvpAE+q2hs7JnVlg=; b=oq2HkEYuDwYvLyGLMA0xs2s5VeqrMCamG9qtmWB0Z7crcc4F9ALkBbPwQyHhfQ4WBp eQ6Q/J4m47wHIB2TXHea6lXqFxovP4FRLkSvL8TX+3meqn6EVTnH5OPWwA5wpoA5jZZz iDia48GNY7IjJCm+tvHKb1NQ/Cg3r/OkZ/8NrUM+ACtMy9k1ZzRStwX+3+947zWy4vJ7 hPmd2RjjB4V4qjzvyWK+qbnOI0eTNhCczmj8w6zZVzwm0G94Hod4836YScbonrj8NdaI y9qvQaHH19gwJ4kOyma+iAVNagrzeWIh628jPK2N5M1aUHzTNzgMvSyOMoBBS+iNze3F WGXQ== m6mr41389137qae.41.1422906006878; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 11:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.227.33 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 11:40:06 -0800 (PST) References: <20150202135658.AL4R2.293801.imail@eastrmwml208> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 14:40:06 -0500 To: Andy Walker Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket From: Tom Parker via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Some additional information in case anybody cares... The car has full length headers. The ONLY place the fuel line could safely be run was along the oil pan; anywhere else would have been too close to the exhaust. (Thanks to George Boskoff; I continue to marvel at his ingenuity). The 289 water pump Rick sells (Sunbeam Specialties) is now aluminum, that and the heads / manifold cut over a hundred pounds off the front of the car. It handled well before, better (imho) after. And it runs on unleaded regular with no danger to the valves. Tom On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Tom Parker wrote: > Andy, > > The original 2BBL carb connection to the fuel line was a hard - flared > fitting on the line directly to the carb, the connection was on the right > side (facing front) of the block. So there was one mount, on the starter > bolt. The rest was hard line. > > When I changed over to the 4BBL 4160 Holley, of course, this changed; The > fuel line connection was on the Left (facing Front) side of the carb, and I > added a mount to the left (facing Front) side of the water pump, and a > couple "rubber" fuel line hoses, one on the right side of the water pump, @ > 4" long, and one on the left from just past the mount to the carb. The 4" > piece served two purposes, 1) as a vibration damper, although it probably > isn't needed for that, and 2) because routing the line across the engine in > one piece was darn near impossible, at least not with the car on jack > stands. > > Again, pictures if you need them. > > If you're a purist, with the original ford 4BBl carb on the original Ford > manifold, your input here will be appreciated, I'm sure, by the Concours > guys. > > My Kitty is a driver; the stock pieces / parts live in a couple boxes in > my garage; the parts on the engine are Edelbrock Aluminum. I built it for > drive-ability and ease of maintenance (an oxymoron here?). > > Tom > '67 Mark 2 > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:56 PM, wrote: > >> Tom: >> >> Thank you so much for the picture; I hope it wasn't too much trouble. >> That will certainly help me, however, with my fuel line routing. I take it >> that is the only bracket on the line? Is there no means of support as the >> line passes the side and/or front of the engine? If not, I would just >> assume it would hang from the fuel filter connection with the carburetor >> feeder line, right? >> >> Thanks again, >> Andy >> >> ---- Tom Parker wrote: >> > I had the original steel lines, and when I installed the stainless fuel >> > lines I (more or less) followed the original contours. To keep the line >> > away from the exhaust they routed it below the starter and up along the >> oil >> > pan to the front of the engine. >> > >> > Tom >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Tom Parker >> wrote: >> > >> > > Correction: it;s off the lower starter motor bolt. Picture should >> show up >> > > soon. >> > > >> > > Tom >> > > >> > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tom Parker >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> Andy, Yeah, a bracket hanging off the bellhousing. It'll take a bit >> of >> > >> work, but if you need it, I can get a picture. >> > >> >> > >> Tom >> > >> '67 Mark 2 >> > >> >> > >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:04 PM, awtiger--- via Tigers < >> > >> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Hey, guys: >> > >>> >> > >>> My question deals with the under-engine metal fuel line that runs >> from >> > >>> the bell housing area on the passenger side of the car and curves >> upward in >> > >>> front of the engine to the fuel filter. Isn't there supposed to be >> some >> > >>> kind of bracketry involved in holding this line in place? The damn >> > >>> (dumb...whatever...) previous owner must have figured that it would >> be >> > >>> "good enough" to zip-tie the fuel line to the hydraulic brake line >> that >> > >>> runs along the front suspension crossmember. I've looked in the >> factory >> > >>> parts manual for an illustration but there is none. Can anyone >> shed some >> > >>> light on how this fuel line is supported? >> > >>> >> > >>> As always, thanks a million, >> > >>> Andy Walker >> > >>> Edmond, OK >> > >>> B382001600LRXFE >> > >>> TAC #740 >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> >> > >>> tigers@autox.team.net >> > >>> >> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> > >>> Unsubscribe: >> > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 2 13:28:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3245E2585062 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:28:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2111E2580863 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 13:27:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.104]) by resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id nYYD1p00A2Fh1PH01YYLpQ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:32:20 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2600:1002:b108:57a8:f48d:a313:5e25:429b] ([IPv6:2600:1002:b108:57a8:f48d:a313:5e25:429b]) by resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id nYXx1p00G1xw4fr01YY7mm; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 20:32:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:31:56 -0500 To: tigers@autox.team.net s=q20140121; t=1422909140; bh=9HQnDyD06xZjZXqhyQITsH/G7Woo1aZAIVYtgdEQqJw=; h=Received:Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=AcTHcpLZBB9PwECxMKRfk9mI/QSSiyrCMB+dE1qqkVqVqMfR1T4CZ+VF1vOD5mQzL uHK7bPyiQKEXhmT+P3ywhH1+3DF8i9Ze5mHdwMLegNFrSNRnBEbP/MVIPHaV/9kh2M 6pOlfniqjuqNzEWRdVFY9xxlHHz35H5h25N80TNEzFsr15prTUgXGrj2cXqn5MhhbA HmSwqK7p4tJbcMNv6yqhjEDsSoZ16mKjNnXoAZuSR0maRdvr+MqUQ/98TjcWc9d7Zt xK8FLux8LrXFjcVhaVj18hbqHMnzuMSKS3UNZQ9jI6uT8WMFjhJ1tZuDvXek2o7Xol 8xy+Z8ziX+orQ== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Slave cylinder push rod question From: ironbeast via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Andy. 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Subject: [Tigers] Slave cylinder push rod question
Hey, fellas: I'm putting some of the finishing touches on my mechanical/engine compartment restoration and I find myself now dealing with, as the English say, the "fiddly bits." The problem of the hour is my clutch slave cylinder pushrod. A little background is in order here.years ago, a friend of mine and I made a longer pushrod BEFORE I had discovered that my slave cylinder bracket was broken at the lower mounting point (I was getting a lot of deflection in the bracket when the pedal was pushed and didn't realize the bracket was broken.thus the longer pushrod to give me more clutch). I didn't have the original pushrod anyway back then (the previous owner had used a piece of all-thread.) so I don't have an original to fall back on or to measure for replacement. So, my question is two-fold.first, does anyone have an original pushrod that they could spare to help me finish this puppy up? Second, if no one has one to sell, does anyone know what the length is on the pushrod ONLY without the bullet-looking end on it that goes into the clutch fork arm? If I had the proper measurement, I could at least cut mine down to where it would work. By the way, I have the bullet end; all I need is the rod. Can someone help me out? Thanks much, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ironbeast@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 2 15:44:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB17258470C for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:44:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F862580485 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 15:33:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-13v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.109]) by resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id nae01p0092N9P4d01aeXeG; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 22:38:31 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-056v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.48.85]) by resomta-ch2-13v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id naeX1p0081qGtEA01aeXnc; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 22:38:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 22:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: LIST TIGER References: <20150202135658.AL4R2.293801.imail@eastrmwml208> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: Fuel line support bracket Thread-Index: 4C4osiOJKIgM7yy19i3/fTwnfYHLVA== s=q20140121; t=1422916711; bh=Dw8QZAQkmz0gx/CA2k4yrPKMoSB9wZFXqXE9Lp8Kv0Y=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=ebTAHfCHwK80UalDbS7EgLih/7PPm2kOPCLVM1wGD9rzHOkGZg3koKyPpqjm0KYpy bVkI1eXZulARVQsx0HsXI+8cfFAuI55xpzjRxaxX2g4XecfpbCaZBHy9DsqSKNenIU /My2c6i4RFXp016viGR6UhEArRZJP+auZY9oTQEXVeF6t4TjJ6W1weKBdzntwYHk6t N9lcWqijJN55/ey+yUhk9kwNuOqGpXbpHq23rszLtNiKhVT76NUZ6j7sC17bzf024i grAl5MzxJB+07UryjKrZWEyG7znoY5mbC5fTfH0EN6ktD51CVMxUeFc4sCvgFEStdC 6wSW5YuK9tt6g== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket From: ironbeast--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Andy, There is another metal bracket that mounts to a bolt in the block at the front corner of the engine. Its attached with a horizontal bolt near where the dipstick enters. If I ever replaced it I might try to make it out of phenolic or some material that would better insulate the fuel line from the block. I can attempt a photo to take a if that might help. Regards, Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: "awtiger--- via Tigers" To: "Tom Parker" Cc: "LIST TIGER" Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:56:58 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket Tom: Thank you so much for the picture; I hope it wasn't too much trouble. That will certainly help me, however, with my fuel line routing. I take it that is the only bracket on the line? Is there no means of support as the line passes the side and/or front of the engine? If not, I would just assume it would hang from the fuel filter connection with the carburetor feeder line, right? Thanks again, Andy ---- Tom Parker wrote: > I had the original steel lines, and when I installed the stainless fuel > lines I (more or less) followed the original contours. To keep the line > away from the exhaust they routed it below the starter and up along the oil > pan to the front of the engine. > > Tom > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Tom Parker wrote: > > > Correction: it;s off the lower starter motor bolt. Picture should show up > > soon. > > > > Tom > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tom Parker > > wrote: > > > >> Andy, Yeah, a bracket hanging off the bellhousing. It'll take a bit of > >> work, but if you need it, I can get a picture. > >> > >> Tom > >> '67 Mark 2 > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:04 PM, awtiger--- via Tigers < > >> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > >> > >>> Hey, guys: > >>> > >>> My question deals with the under-engine metal fuel line that runs from > >>> the bell housing area on the passenger side of the car and curves upward in > >>> front of the engine to the fuel filter. Isn't there supposed to be some > >>> kind of bracketry involved in holding this line in place? The damn > >>> (dumb...whatever...) previous owner must have figured that it would be > >>> "good enough" to zip-tie the fuel line to the hydraulic brake line that > >>> runs along the front suspension crossmember. I've looked in the factory > >>> parts manual for an illustration but there is none. Can anyone shed some > >>> light on how this fuel line is supported? > >>> > >>> As always, thanks a million, > >>> Andy Walker > >>> Edmond, OK > >>> B382001600LRXFE > >>> TAC #740 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> tigers@autox.team.net > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ironbeast@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 2 18:29:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B77D2584E97 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:29:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f173.google.com (unknown [209.85.216.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7362580B7B for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:24:16 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id m20so33055516qcx.4 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:28:19 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GpR7JQ5NHKspKNgwMElerO8jRrZ9xsRDB9oyeq6ZRO4=; b=UTym0TmIzfQ7WGaDohsHF6SEqJHOb3N/bBMo++hfJ1boqz6eib5kz/NjeHRpEcx7AS WKTcLj9ot881S3ibfDTOxPvkjzExZI5JMVfMSe860a3G0UatLk8Oh5x/hlWGFu4jdYPv OzPpd3iq0ZPwRyBv8Axs5+yieN3mO+S94CP+3R+piEYsKzslZkvap2yPsnrSCR/HHIZ3 Vky6m/KzVxnVz7Bmtc9fW7VNNt9u9Q7QWy0saH8Hj2FfusJ9UczGp2qze7kkjze5PwPQ ErSGxluENoCkztC/C1sWgJCUF53Bb6xdl8eKP5bRAPtGvGGAj+KkBk0AcHMCmmITUGFa BMdQ== r13mr48173488qag.12.1422926899181; Mon, 02 Feb 2015 17:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.227.33 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 17:28:19 -0800 (PST) References: <20150202135658.AL4R2.293801.imail@eastrmwml208> <1906829447.17924128.1422916710926.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 20:28:19 -0500 To: ironbeast@comcast.net Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket From: Tom Parker via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Paul, if convenient I'd like to see a picture of the front fuel line bracket. it's possible the part was eliminated with the transition to the Alternator on the Mark 2, or it may have been lost somewhere before I bought the car in '76. Strange things happened to the dipstick bracket somewhere along the way. Maybe there's a connection. Thanks, Tom '67 Mark 2 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 5:38 PM, ironbeast--- via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Andy, > There is another metal bracket that mounts to a bolt in the block at the > front corner of the engine. Its attached with a horizontal bolt near where > the dipstick enters. If I ever replaced it I might try to make it out of > phenolic or some material that would better insulate the fuel line from the > block. > > I can attempt a photo to take a if that might help. > > Regards, > Paul. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "awtiger--- via Tigers" > To: "Tom Parker" > Cc: "LIST TIGER" > Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:56:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket > > Tom: > > Thank you so much for the picture; I hope it wasn't too much trouble. That > will certainly help me, however, with my fuel line routing. I take it that > is the only bracket on the line? Is there no means of support as the line > passes the side and/or front of the engine? If not, I would just assume it > would hang from the fuel filter connection with the carburetor feeder line, > right? > > Thanks again, > Andy > > ---- Tom Parker wrote: > > I had the original steel lines, and when I installed the stainless fuel > > lines I (more or less) followed the original contours. To keep the line > > away from the exhaust they routed it below the starter and up along the > oil > > pan to the front of the engine. > > > > Tom > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Tom Parker > wrote: > > > > > Correction: it;s off the lower starter motor bolt. Picture should show > up > > > soon. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tom Parker > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Andy, Yeah, a bracket hanging off the bellhousing. It'll take a bit of > > >> work, but if you need it, I can get a picture. > > >> > > >> Tom > > >> '67 Mark 2 > > >> > > >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:04 PM, awtiger--- via Tigers < > > >> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hey, guys: > > >>> > > >>> My question deals with the under-engine metal fuel line that runs > from > > >>> the bell housing area on the passenger side of the car and curves > upward in > > >>> front of the engine to the fuel filter. Isn't there supposed to be > some > > >>> kind of bracketry involved in holding this line in place? The damn > > >>> (dumb...whatever...) previous owner must have figured that it would > be > > >>> "good enough" to zip-tie the fuel line to the hydraulic brake line > that > > >>> runs along the front suspension crossmember. I've looked in the > factory > > >>> parts manual for an illustration but there is none. Can anyone shed > some > > >>> light on how this fuel line is supported? > > >>> > > >>> As always, thanks a million, > > >>> Andy Walker > > >>> Edmond, OK > > >>> B382001600LRXFE > > >>> TAC #740 > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> > > >>> tigers@autox.team.net > > >>> > > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > >>> Unsubscribe: > > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ironbeast@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 2 18:29:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BBE2584EDD for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:29:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA0325844BE for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:25:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t131QnTF028516; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 17:30:24 -0800 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189135) id dm0213.54cff548.a24e; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 17:30:22 -0800 To: , Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 20:30:13 -0500 Thread-Index: AdA/UPQ3PM9yPaW/SaK89g7y4nZWRw== engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-03_01:2015-02-02,2015-02-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502030014 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Paul Very interesting! I think I have that bracket on my Tiger but not sure at this moment without looking. I believe that bracket is C3OZ-9180-A. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ironbeast--- via Tigers Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 5:39 PM To: undisclosed-recipients: Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket Andy, There is another metal bracket that mounts to a bolt in the block at the front corner of the engine. Its attached with a horizontal bolt near where the dipstick enters. If I ever replaced it I might try to make it out of phenolic or some material that would better insulate the fuel line from the block. I can attempt a photo to take a if that might help. Regards, Paul. ----- Original Message ----- From: "awtiger--- via Tigers" To: "Tom Parker" Cc: "LIST TIGER" Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:56:58 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket Tom: Thank you so much for the picture; I hope it wasn't too much trouble. That will certainly help me, however, with my fuel line routing. I take it that is the only bracket on the line? Is there no means of support as the line passes the side and/or front of the engine? If not, I would just assume it would hang from the fuel filter connection with the carburetor feeder line, right? Thanks again, Andy ---- Tom Parker wrote: > I had the original steel lines, and when I installed the stainless > fuel > lines I (more or less) followed the original contours. To keep the line > away from the exhaust they routed it below the starter and up along the oil > pan to the front of the engine. > > Tom > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Tom Parker > wrote: > > > Correction: it;s off the lower starter motor bolt. Picture should > > show up > > soon. > > > > Tom > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tom Parker > > wrote: > > > >> Andy, Yeah, a bracket hanging off the bellhousing. It'll take a bit > >> of > >> work, but if you need it, I can get a picture. > >> > >> Tom > >> '67 Mark 2 > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:04 PM, awtiger--- via Tigers < > >> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > >> > >>> Hey, guys: > >>> > >>> My question deals with the under-engine metal fuel line that runs > >>> from > >>> the bell housing area on the passenger side of the car and curves upward in > >>> front of the engine to the fuel filter. Isn't there supposed to be some > >>> kind of bracketry involved in holding this line in place? The damn > >>> (dumb...whatever...) previous owner must have figured that it would be > >>> "good enough" to zip-tie the fuel line to the hydraulic brake line that > >>> runs along the front suspension crossmember. I've looked in the factory > >>> parts manual for an illustration but there is none. Can anyone shed some > >>> light on how this fuel line is supported? > >>> > >>> As always, thanks a million, > >>> Andy Walker > >>> Edmond, OK > >>> B382001600LRXFE > >>> TAC #740 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> tigers@autox.team.net > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe: > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ironbeast@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4273/9045 - Release Date: 02/02/15 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 2 18:59:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D552584F07 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:59:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72BB02584884 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 18:55:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t131osFQ021004; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 17:59:45 -0800 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189135) id dm0213.54cff548.a76e; Mon, 2 Feb 2015 17:59:43 -0800 To: "'Tom Parker'" , , Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2015 20:59:35 -0500 Thread-Index: AdA/UXMesXYmjTFUQyi14W/ZHkjGjAAAwwYw engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-03_01:2015-02-03,2015-02-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502030018 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tom According to the Parts List all Tiger engines have this bracket. I'll have to look on my Tiger but not tonight. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom Parker via Tigers Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 8:28 PM To: ironbeast@comcast.net Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket Paul, if convenient I'd like to see a picture of the front fuel line bracket. it's possible the part was eliminated with the transition to the Alternator on the Mark 2, or it may have been lost somewhere before I bought the car in '76. Strange things happened to the dipstick bracket somewhere along the way. Maybe there's a connection. Thanks, Tom '67 Mark 2 On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 5:38 PM, ironbeast--- via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Andy, > There is another metal bracket that mounts to a bolt in the block at > the front corner of the engine. Its attached with a horizontal bolt > near where the dipstick enters. If I ever replaced it I might try to > make it out of phenolic or some material that would better insulate > the fuel line from the block. > > I can attempt a photo to take a if that might help. > > Regards, > Paul. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "awtiger--- via Tigers" > To: "Tom Parker" > Cc: "LIST TIGER" > Sent: Monday, February 2, 2015 1:56:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line support bracket > > Tom: > > Thank you so much for the picture; I hope it wasn't too much trouble. > That will certainly help me, however, with my fuel line routing. I > take it that is the only bracket on the line? Is there no means of > support as the line passes the side and/or front of the engine? If > not, I would just assume it would hang from the fuel filter connection > with the carburetor feeder line, right? > > Thanks again, > Andy > > ---- Tom Parker wrote: > > I had the original steel lines, and when I installed the stainless > > fuel lines I (more or less) followed the original contours. To keep > > the line away from the exhaust they routed it below the starter and > > up along the > oil > > pan to the front of the engine. > > > > Tom > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Tom Parker > wrote: > > > > > Correction: it;s off the lower starter motor bolt. Picture should > > > show > up > > > soon. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Tom Parker > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Andy, Yeah, a bracket hanging off the bellhousing. It'll take a > > >> bit of work, but if you need it, I can get a picture. > > >> > > >> Tom > > >> '67 Mark 2 > > >> > > >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:04 PM, awtiger--- via Tigers < > > >> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hey, guys: > > >>> > > >>> My question deals with the under-engine metal fuel line that > > >>> runs > from > > >>> the bell housing area on the passenger side of the car and > > >>> curves > upward in > > >>> front of the engine to the fuel filter. Isn't there supposed to > > >>> be > some > > >>> kind of bracketry involved in holding this line in place? The > > >>> damn > > >>> (dumb...whatever...) previous owner must have figured that it would > be > > >>> "good enough" to zip-tie the fuel line to the hydraulic brake > > >>> line > that > > >>> runs along the front suspension crossmember. I've looked in the > factory > > >>> parts manual for an illustration but there is none. Can anyone > > >>> shed > some > > >>> light on how this fuel line is supported? > > >>> > > >>> As always, thanks a million, > > >>> Andy Walker > > >>> Edmond, OK > > >>> B382001600LRXFE > > >>> TAC #740 _______________________________________________ > > >>> > > >>> tigers@autox.team.net > > >>> > > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > >>> Unsubscribe: > > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail. > > >>> com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ironbeast@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5645 / Virus Database: 4273/9045 - Release Date: 02/02/15 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 3 10:00:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEAF2584F97 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:00:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094DD25844C1 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:00:30 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=FsLa2Wsns6NslQailDuUBsNn0/Os2+IhjaKb6yXrKDIhUmu/5SDrsTzONq5oy2hg; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.203.136.154] (helo=XPS2710.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1YIguJ-00039s-Ig for tigers@autox.team.net; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 12:04:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:04:47 -0800 To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Maybe One for the Fun From: Bob Diehl via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Found this on Facebook. http://www.classictiger.com/mudge/bill-martin/depot_GT_classified.htm ;--^0 b.d. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 3 17:46:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA6BE258459F for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 17:46:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DCE25807B8 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 17:44:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150204004927.UMLC4455.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 19:49:27 -0500 Received: from [98.176.175.66] ([98.176.175.66]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id o0pT1p00E1SKgcq010pTCV; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 19:49:27 -0500 a=tNfnz9IqsqRtkurgRkCM9g==:17 a=M3t8bMoVVlMA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=sUMN_ENbAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pRgb9CHPWwvxT9XO7CYA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=HvQ1bSE7k_QA:10 a=JoOYeiISECcA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=tNfnz9IqsqRtkurgRkCM9g==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 16:49:29 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Maybe One for the Fun From: David Sosna via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Nifty! That little beer keg of an engine seems a good fit. Thanks for the link, Bob!! Best Regards David Sosna On 02/03/2015 09:04 AM, Bob Diehl via Tigers wrote: > Found this on Facebook. > > http://www.classictiger.com/mudge/bill-martin/depot_GT_classified.htm > > ;--^0 > b.d. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 4 07:19:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62D9225846DA for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 07:19:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 84AA9258060D for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 07:18:38 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1423059784; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=Op9oOogOUiY9GhybUsp/76+8C1X8SSxHU39YarvofIUqoaPrLqrs3ikNHqKwFTFeI TUUmg5kF2K4uIPojnFg6q01lL/wrmccjdkpRe0zUWpxF9VpNQqOs6NZIOaCvqsqyrP Lemfb+BiBw/I1fKIFUIJwXGzkqHvXMDWB0hIgi3s= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop07.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.27]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABLPEL39AV9FQZ2 for (sender ); Wed, 4 Feb 2015 06:22:55 -0800 (PST) To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 06:22:21 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] Tiger for sale From: spmdr--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I know of a Tiger for sale. MK 1 SN B94727XX paint code 39 (red) currently Maroon. Nice cosmetic personalized restoration, Inside (black) and out. The drivetrain has most of the personalized touches. 1968 302, F4B with a wide ratio 4 spd and lower rear gears, maybe 3.31 (or 3.54) with a powerloc. It also has a Lou Anderson Ackerman kit. Contact me by email and I'll send pictures and put you in contact with the owner. DW ____________________________________________________________ How Old Men Tighten Skin 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54d22b3fb21242b3f695fst03vuc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 4 12:35:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982FD258504A for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 12:35:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f180.google.com (mail-pd0-f180.google.com [209.85.192.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66832580A0E for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 12:33:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by pdbfp1 with SMTP id fp1so2637592pdb.4 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 11:38:24 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=oBslPTtbbE1hGC+0KVCrMmgvGriGsPHWI6+vLnkiUtc=; b=oB48korf8J6q3IyPxxZO4PrcVfmawHa0LX90nZdtbCqgfToCbYHZAkqzWCyO/iDSN8 ZIQgvnBteyCUWLu4042jGwM9HyzyU0ucW90WcxTq71oGYWumOtOjy+DiPLNLmLchEV22 pjQUMUF27YOJ/4ZD+MSga086QoS7OD6wreA4BxIfKE6r4LubGNlpssaMYnOELepqFcwf CxKB4j8PeZbD44JC9WBDpYfh9P/VapI/NwU53EYf6yFr2SI78tp3bA6VfSfKDkW3lFCf gQAtFh+BODlILa8sCMMMX8Wbr9yyKDxhGaJ808u4doerGyePfnvtfWu2bu8ZAy8E3rT2 NKGA== Wed, 04 Feb 2015 11:38:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.18.4 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:38:24 -0800 (PST) References: <3EB90F5A34FA466280239AA7245344BD@heinz> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 13:38:24 -0600 To: heinz mihm Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] dashboard From: Cullen McCann via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net for the ongoing dash discussion... there is a tiger that was just listed on ebay, item 171668092638 that is B9470232 it appears and it has a black dash. which we already knew it should...but more evidence to confirm. ( no affiliation...just noticed it). I wonder where all the holes went on the side for the trim... I guess somebody filled them? and the wing scripts are gone but no holes remain? whats that all about? seller says trim moldings come with it. guess its had body work, but the seller says the car was in storage for most of its life. not sure what the story is there. Cullen McCann Yukon OK B382001452 LROFE Alpine 260 B9471784 LRXFE (previously owned) On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:38 PM, heinz mihm via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > my MKi Tiger vin number B9470430 has a wood dash. > thanks heinz > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 4 20:37:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1274B2584FD3 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 20:37:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com (mail-pa0-f51.google.com [209.85.220.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9BC2580281 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 20:34:06 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id hz1so2402207pad.10 for ; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:38:39 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :thread-index:content-language; bh=t3TFx5dFKzZLdI4F5gN3x5kM9dhGlyf4ZJ7RZ83mla4=; b=c2s0c1YqJLDxO1scJrdKgKKjhDFAcE+J/yEXw2cm8my6pIMsMESLK3IGpHAT78Xfax ZJ8AY3yPU+uthvhy1nfEwilO+Q8EaoK58hITwghmeXcnlbUnzCX8m2p2BreBq8+YKEhU 5e3fkQ5htq+ghxE2jsDfuiryPwrB82p5EKgc0ann+pWzExu4CC3etNLyBMC1GnNd/BQZ 1KqhfeFgq8WR3GJBA62GmzzUrawCPgWm0L8qeUeDmLrNKJgnD2Ncnf80QdzoCCAF7wh2 cWwVYhblu1bnofouG2EMmox4SrOXbC+r7VuPN9oiZc+zRdortewMHu/0WFryEZ99wiCM upEg== kv12mr705259pab.72.1423107519539; Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from OFFICEPC (75-32-205-182.lightspeed.ftwotx.sbcglobal.net. [75.32.205.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fu14sm3464452pad.44.2015.02.04.19.38.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Feb 2015 19:38:38 -0800 (PST) To: Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 21:38:40 -0600 Thread-Index: AdBA9KvpJW+Nd4E7SU2LW+UJsMazLg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Steering Column Shroud From: Joe Brown via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I'm looking for advice on refinishing the black plastic shroud that goes around the steering column behind the steering wheel. Mine was pretty dull so I thought I would see what I could do with plastic polish on my buffer. I did the bottom half first and it came out great. But when I tried it on the top half I let the buffer grab the piece and it hit the floor and broke in half. I glued it back together but the crack is slightly visible. So I was thinking about filling the crack line with glaze, sanding it down and painting the whole thing. Has anybody had good luck painting one of these? Do the paints made for plastics work good? Should it be satin, semi-gloss, gloss, etc.? Thanks, Joe Brown Arlington, TX B382000217 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 5 12:41:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF193258549D for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 12:41:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2on0142.outbound.protection.outlook.com [65.55.169.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0861B2584613 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 12:14:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLUPR04MB021.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.210.17) by BLUPR04MB321.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.24.14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.75.20; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 19:18:55 +0000 Received: from BY2PR04CA021.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.249.139) by BLUPR04MB021.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.210.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.75.20; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 19:18:51 +0000 Received: from BN1BFFO11FD052.protection.gbl (2a01:111:f400:7c10::1:137) by BY2PR04CA021.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:2c5e::11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.81.19 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 19:18:50 +0000 Received: from garmin.com (204.77.163.247) by BN1BFFO11FD052.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.58.145.7) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.87.10 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 19:18:49 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT06.ad.garmin.com (10.2.0.28) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.224.2; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 13:19:07 -0600 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.6.6]) by olawpa-exht06.ad.garmin.com ([10.2.0.28]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Thu, 5 Feb 2015 13:18:42 -0600 To: Cullen McCann , heinz mihm Thread-Topic: [Tigers] dashboard Thread-Index: AQHQObF9yQDMq9e2o0C8EgV6c+EHCJzhVXkAgAEXeQA= Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 19:18:41 +0000 References: <3EB90F5A34FA466280239AA7245344BD@heinz> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.1.140326 x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-11.0.0.1284-7.500.1018-21306.000 x-tm-as-result: No--31.566000-0.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: Yes x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-ID: <07BC0C76EFE67A4FA79BC793CB7E2F5B@garmin.com> Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of garmin.com designates 204.77.163.247 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=204.77.163.247; helo=garmin.com; Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 204.77.163.247) not signed) header.d=none; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(438002)(36304003)(83506001)(6806004)(87936001)(47776003)(23756003)(16796002)(2656002)(46102003)(40036004)(77156002)(62966003)(2900100001)(2950100001)(102836002)(77096005)(86362001)(76176999)(54356999)(106116001)(106466001)(50986999)(92566002)(36756003)(50466002)(7059030); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR04MB021; H:garmin.com; FPR:; SPF:Pass; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; SRVR:BLUPR04MB021; Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] dashboard From: "Smit, Theo via Tigers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Some people don9t like the side trim strip; I suppose it9s only a small step from filling the trim strip holes to filling everything on the side. Noticed that the 3grille trim2 they9re providing is Series II Alpine or something... To me, the grille bullet, bars and the side trim help to visually stretch the car a bit and I don9t think they look as well-proportioned without those items, especially in pictures. Interesting that even this car is up over $25k without hitting its reserve. A rising tide floats all boats? Theo ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 05:55:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C6B258474D for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 05:55:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049D5258489D for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 05:34:18 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1423226332; bh=cj2ePh7nHiY58tr+doTaqCfXML3LnJD71y2zL469Plk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=nglvMwcbRG0GLHSMGq2uRwZTQAOEHE5ltvdXdPaeCLOq3LnVYgSFU2EDOzQ0czL+IAHoZp3Rez1O/LQyxFLTcpFFLbzuc7ie/NVkvMHAue8N0nwEEWA0KgSXL/EiQ898c/q0ciHjf+acGztr6C5J26AVy6eQkGIXPRA+O8Cn3/RzoVfQTaXgAcUDoc39N/3la5weLKmHYXAIwxE2JB56tjz+zMksKKJnrWZC5OxCCj/S2QUyOeq5IuG60CKZQShzeXvLbN9fosgWLlGlmLhxQa3zQnFK14hCCGBdxut+S/iG+nVJCZ9k/3WNk9nykgHu3vNcBGMZ2Vn9BvK9imPeBg== Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2015 12:38:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.236] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2015 12:38:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1045.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Feb 2015 12:38:52 -0000 ItMlTub03VxkZEW0aHwrEAZx6Qm9VzHT546UwwX_lBggmvX0YAFtGarS_VolWuIzq_TmlnQlJCnX pHv7at4FeUFKqjHkn8BbZyE6gKb.VT4OgFH6ddvKbEMxeK3nyXaejkppl4b5XhlG2fBIsVKQkcEp wq2yOfY3qwgnYEgWYDoky.pbyIhAZpsIvENGV3M1fCXMNRlX_Gdh0o5.euCKXjBjFUQ92ZTAuhJ5 lsZ5liPJEob1vzJP2kEyfyuvTCBH9_Yd9m7WyYoTNGypdY1wp1dMr..a4ocjObpDk3sRb.IybtJE blM.7r7XSdSfUjw1sOI0psXBgi_q6u7Zi7OTc8Caoqo85iwmbez3a9Y6hWqVINpszjDN7ADQC1C3 KkmizJ5XeWOsx.Cr76sR7dyZ3rXVaahl_WmoxRTLlHd6dvdVacZvc2BeHzi_CkrpHbeh_Wlg56FW TRH3DLpIt7dcu1Do- Received: by 66.196.80.121; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 12:38:52 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:38:51 +0000 (UTC) To: Joe Brown via Tigers Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Steering shroud From: snakebit289 via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If you don't find a suitable way to refinish the existing broken part, they're on eBay a lot, and Tiger and Alpine ones are the same for Alpine IV, V, and all Tigers.B Good luck. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 06:25:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA4B2584866 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 06:25:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f171.google.com (mail-we0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DEF02580B65 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 06:00:33 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id k11so13587008wes.2 for ; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 05:05:06 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xiOJiwKFSCQAsgj/IrU+3hXumwve/OBqq2cUBzaNtzM=; b=MfA/7fUwZxFRyLD83SSuMJBEjPCNw6IhT417yvu76USRriixqRRtx67vMrxg4B+7gh I85NCC7LRQYIxbFGTT58C3z+XhwLH9+ajLnh9MzxWXQ6TBaBMMnS3hIjj5NuQwnqRy12 WWRVc7S0J9efyq1dZVkoLoh+fbvZKCgeqdn3pv3MgKmkNqmul+fJb+53gECahCPYD45c ZA9manl+mzz0//nD7iZrSkaeHoXaJmkw0fZyeJMmEK2aDgAA9ktiMxhbxVYTaXnZhF1c U8JwJiPrpjnznMKp3IDIr4DOe43RfZv+MB73fmIBFni20V3DBW39hHyBY6WK/94NUwbb 2iTw== fb8mr3052677wid.69.1423227906702; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 05:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.47.18 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 05:05:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 08:05:06 -0500 To: Tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Classic Motorsports Garage Contest winner From: Stu via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Check out the CM web page. Our own Barry Schonberger's garage/palace was the winner of CM's garage contest, large garage category. Congrats to Barry! Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 07:30:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DF52585CC1 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:30:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397832580494 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:02:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo109 ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150206140713.KNKO14650.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo109> for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:07:13 -0500 Received: from eastrmwml303 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo109 with cox id p27C1p00F4h0NJL0127Cdv; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 09:07:12 -0500 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=wv4eaBJWiZvBpVH6UGAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 9:07:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 9:07:12 -0500 To: Stu Sensitivity: Normal Cc: Stu via Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] Classic Motorsports Garage Contest winner From: awtiger--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I saw that yesterday on my e-mail!!!! I thought his name sounded familiar, and when I saw the red Tiger in the garage, I knew it must be one of our guys. Congrats, Barry!!!! Andy Walker Edmond, OK ---- Stu via Tigers wrote: > Check out the CM web page. Our own Barry Schonberger's garage/palace was > the winner of CM's garage contest, large garage category. > > Congrats to Barry! > > Stu > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 09:14:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FD02585A3C for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:14:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5BF2584ACD for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 08:48:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta006.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t16Fkeuq005245 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:53:32 -0800 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a207) id dm0224.54d12042.1a657 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:53:31 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.186]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 15:53:27 -0000 To: Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 10:53:25 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBCJQo1uPMOOlSPT2CF51G3Lh6yMw== engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-06_06:2015-02-06,2015-02-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502060158 Subject: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net There has been a discussion about the fuel line brackets for the Tiger engines. Parts List indicates 3 brackets mounted to the Tiger engines. @ the rear of the engine 1224792 Plate - Pipe carrier 9116027 Grommet Mk I 9176015 Grommet Mk II @ the right side front corner of the block 1224791 Angle - Pipe clip support Superseded by 1229865 1229865 Angle @ the front of the engine 6100292 C3OZ-9180-A Mk I 6100909 Mk II National Parts Depot lists 3 different fuel line brackets. Bob Mannel confirmed that # 9180-0A is a reproduction of the C3OZ-A part. This part was mounted under one of the water pump bolts and painted satin black with the engine; the clip and screw were natural color. I don't know if painted is correct for the Tiger engine. NPD part #9180-1A is the 1965 bracket and #9180-1B is the 1966 bracket. Anyone have an original fuel line bracket mounted to the front of their engine? Which bolt is it under? Which style bracket was used on the Mk II engine? Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 09:44:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2972585731 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:44:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137BF258009A for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:23:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t16GRHAD004994 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 08:27:35 -0800 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a207) id dm0224.54d12042.1a094 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 08:27:32 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.186]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:27:30 -0000 To: Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:27:26 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBCJQo1uPMOOlSPT2CF51G3Lh6yMwABB/2g engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-06_06:2015-02-06,2015-02-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502060165 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I see a little confusion in my words. The C3OZ-A bracket was mounted under a water pump bolt on standard Ford engines. This bracket was mounted somewhere at the front right on the Tiger engines probably a timing cover bolt. I'm just trying to confirm the brackets and their location on the front of the Tiger engines. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser via Tigers Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:53 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets There has been a discussion about the fuel line brackets for the Tiger engines. Parts List indicates 3 brackets mounted to the Tiger engines. @ the rear of the engine 1224792 Plate - Pipe carrier 9116027 Grommet Mk I 9176015 Grommet Mk II @ the right side front corner of the block 1224791 Angle - Pipe clip support Superseded by 1229865 1229865 Angle @ the front of the engine 6100292 C3OZ-9180-A Mk I 6100909 Mk II National Parts Depot lists 3 different fuel line brackets. Bob Mannel confirmed that # 9180-0A is a reproduction of the C3OZ-A part. This part was mounted under one of the water pump bolts and painted satin black with the engine; the clip and screw were natural color. I don't know if painted is correct for the Tiger engine. NPD part #9180-1A is the 1965 bracket and #9180-1B is the 1966 bracket. Anyone have an original fuel line bracket mounted to the front of their engine? Which bolt is it under? Which style bracket was used on the Mk II engine? Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 09:59:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E678E2584A81 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:59:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327E02580074 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:41:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.229]) by resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id p4lY1p0064xDoy8014mFQA; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:46:15 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-311v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.177.66]) by resomta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id p4mE1p00T1SLFBW014mEQe; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:46:14 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 16:46:12 +0000 (UTC) To: rfraser@bluefrog.com References: <4AE567CF89B24624859AA93ECBE23C95@ronpc1> Thread-Topic: Fuel line Brackets Thread-Index: AdBCJQo1uPMOOlSPT2CF51G3Lh6yM7S5udp+ s=q20140121; t=1423241175; bh=lPBeiQEaUEt1vT8Rh38pFs8rZmtsOuHRo9sGgBQtj0Y=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=iIsx2dMBN5K/l2hDbL/mR8cCRJagPr2rl2xzHwm1Uca5KbAxBGKuL595rYZqmsKX1 dcdT38ijXbWH48kx/ArFSPHifJVRPlrJJ8EruYGVoMUryzD9zZPu8Xnt+r3lSEX1nN NrwGuncQXprWrCskz0jaIJueWJhwSZJgdotIAhmUYB4HduXVAqLWH9hZgpdg9H2+nQ yPzjg8y6Q9DSlHUPjXQth5V9ZxktzwXoRdCTMvLpvd0hrFvZShKNnJGM9AwF9TJAVw QWeCgiT+EQbrcJw6YB7OEcXKnRb6mpXlBsW8ZYFXIB4/YFUb9AN+KGq+yvkgCO8wXT yMeaTizjx6Axw== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets From: Gary Winblad via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ron, Attached are two lousy photos of the two fuel brackets still existing on B9470585 (it is hardly stock so..) I don't think I have ever seen a bracket from the water pump bolt. Could it be that the one at the front of the engine is in the parts list as the last two pieces that you show. It IS two pieces, one is an "angle" and one IS a "clip and screw". Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Fraser via Tigers To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 15:53:25 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets There has been a discussion about the fuel line brackets for the Tiger engines. Parts List indicates 3 brackets mounted to the Tiger engines. @ the rear of the engine 1224792 Plate - Pipe carrier 9116027 Grommet Mk I 9176015 Grommet Mk II @ the right side front corner of the block 1224791 Angle - Pipe clip support Superseded by 1229865 1229865 Angle @ the front of the engine 6100292 C3OZ-9180-A Mk I 6100909 Mk II National Parts Depot lists 3 different fuel line brackets. Bob Mannel confirmed that # 9180-0A is a reproduction of the C3OZ-A part. This part was mounted under one of the water pump bolts and painted satin black with the engine; the clip and screw were natural color. I don't know if painted is correct for the Tiger engine. NPD part #9180-1A is the 1965 bracket and #9180-1B is the 1966 bracket. Anyone have an original fuel line bracket mounted to the front of their engine? Which bolt is it under? Which style bracket was used on the Mk II engine? Ron Fraser [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 039.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 041.JPG] _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 10:14:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4932B2585274 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 10:14:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF82258068F for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 09:56:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-13v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.237]) by resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id p4xG1p00A57bBgG01510zL; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 17:01:00 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-311v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.177.66]) by resomta-po-13v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id p5101p0081SLFBW01510qs; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 17:01:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 17:00:59 +0000 (UTC) To: rfraser@bluefrog.com References: <5DCA1227C9114E93AD2FA8685D5702D8@ronpc1> Thread-Topic: Fuel line Brackets Thread-Index: AdBCJQo1uPMOOlSPT2CF51G3Lh6yMwABB/2gmC54jXQ= s=q20140121; t=1423242060; bh=kTHjg9NKoD+rroZ4xuQPnmZawQQ5mXKNgcifuSb6XiQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=V8PVqekte80Xorf6B/qVh+1uDZzX2rGxOPlvwRtTJBOF7BPVoVnSjqxU+L7kSQzGw pn5bhi8XhnMl2/XfjZ37+QD85Wcw92Bu5mljoyWRnUluP5/458NhhgCNP9JDLcsDkx lWKs2+40znfemvSZLu6zQMt8bb54FKMcfijGk3sv6E7pJoBMEkYxmdLMr4VtKNZmPq iFvua+I46jN0ccDd2F3gYW6Sf8sr6yh+rH5RsYPcILkhJxBbuHbN0PFWS1UKG184PG SH+ucN2hAB6ySkmlS+I3lby6cNwJkS0XC+poowm+EXR+r/FxBDEzt2XPEcAvbMzr4y OyaJtKUIug0ng== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets From: Gary Winblad via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ron, That NPD bracket would definetly be functionally the same as the front bracket on my Tigers. L bracket and pipe clamp in ONE piece. On MKI Tigers it bolts to an un-used boss on the block, low on the front right(passenger) side. The NPD bracket is cosmetically wrong though.. looks like a cheap repro.. and why would it need to hold two lines on an early engine? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Fraser via Tigers To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:27:26 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets I see a little confusion in my words. The C3OZ-A bracket was mounted under a water pump bolt on standard Ford engines. This bracket was mounted somewhere at the front right on the Tiger engines probably a timing cover bolt. I'm just trying to confirm the brackets and their location on the front of the Tiger engines. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser via Tigers Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:53 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets There has been a discussion about the fuel line brackets for the Tiger engines. Parts List indicates 3 brackets mounted to the Tiger engines. @ the rear of the engine 1224792 Plate - Pipe carrier 9116027 Grommet Mk I 9176015 Grommet Mk II @ the right side front corner of the block 1224791 Angle - Pipe clip support Superseded by 1229865 1229865 Angle @ the front of the engine 6100292 C3OZ-9180-A Mk I 6100909 Mk II National Parts Depot lists 3 different fuel line brackets. Bob Mannel confirmed that # 9180-0A is a reproduction of the C3OZ-A part. This part was mounted under one of the water pump bolts and painted satin black with the engine; the clip and screw were natural color. I don't know if painted is correct for the Tiger engine. NPD part #9180-1A is the 1965 bracket and #9180-1B is the 1966 bracket. Anyone have an original fuel line bracket mounted to the front of their engine? Which bolt is it under? Which style bracket was used on the Mk II engine? Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 10:46:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D413425857E2 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 10:46:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.216]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1DC2580224 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 10:23:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150206172733.SIJI25062.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:27:33 -0500 Received: from eastrmwml303 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id p5TZ1p00H4h0NJL015TZRJ; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 12:27:33 -0500 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=F3ZAeyzIbM60fRtC1qAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:27:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:27:33 -0500 To: rfraser@bluefrog.com, Gary Winblad Sensitivity: Normal Cc: Gary Winblad via Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets From: awtiger--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ron: That shop tip out of the Ford book that I sent you kind of lead me to believe that the bracket in question (C30Z-9180-A) was meant to be a "field fix," if you will, for the '63 Fords that ran the small-block engines to keep the fuel line connection from vibrating loose at the carburetor, thus causing a fuel leak. If I remember correctly, the diagram showed it mounting to the uppermost water pump bolt, which of course, would not be of any service to Tiger owners. One thing that I've been a bit confused on, too, is the shape of the clip itself on the piece from NPD. It appears to be a completely different shape. I'm really interested to see what other folks have on their Tigers, if anything at all. And, as usual, thanks for all the input and legwork that goes into chasing this stuff down. Thanks also goes to those who have been contributing to this thread; your input is appreciated. Andy ---- Gary Winblad via Tigers wrote: > Ron, > Attached are two lousy photos of the two fuel brackets still > existing on B9470585 (it is hardly stock so..) > I don't think I have ever seen a bracket from the water pump > bolt. > Could it be that the one at the front of the engine is in > the parts list as the last two pieces that you show. It > IS two pieces, one is an "angle" and one IS a "clip and > screw". > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron Fraser via Tigers > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 15:53:25 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets > > There has been a discussion about the fuel line brackets for the Tiger > engines. > > Parts List indicates 3 brackets mounted to the Tiger engines. > > @ the rear of the engine > 1224792 Plate - Pipe carrier > 9116027 Grommet Mk I > 9176015 Grommet Mk II > > @ the right side front corner of the block > 1224791 Angle - Pipe clip support Superseded by 1229865 > 1229865 Angle > > @ the front of the engine > 6100292 C3OZ-9180-A Mk I > 6100909 Mk II > > National Parts Depot lists 3 different fuel line brackets. > > Bob Mannel confirmed that # 9180-0A is a reproduction of the C3OZ-A part. > This part was mounted under one of the water pump bolts and painted satin > black with the engine; the clip and screw were natural color. I don't know > if painted is correct for the Tiger engine. > > NPD part #9180-1A is the 1965 bracket and #9180-1B is the 1966 bracket. > > Anyone have an original fuel line bracket mounted to the front of their > engine? > > Which bolt is it under? > > Which style bracket was used on the Mk II engine? > > Ron Fraser > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 039.JPG] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 041.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 11:29:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733A62584A26 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:29:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2502580147 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:04:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t16I7Iia023905; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 10:08:56 -0800 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 401892ba) id dm0225.54d1203d.12626; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 10:08:55 -0800 To: "'Gary Winblad'" Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 13:08:00 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBCJQo1uPMOOlSPT2CF51G3Lh6yM7S5udp+tLmXPPA= engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-06_06:2015-02-06,2015-02-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502060181 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Gary Thank you for the pictures. The 1st picture is the front right side corner of the block. This one I removed from my Tiger for closer examination plus it needs a little TLC restoration. The bracket is the Angle, 7/16" UNC bolt, "R" clip, screw, nut and all the washers. 2nd picture is the bracket at the rear of the engine. Thanks much for that one. My Tiger is not in a position to be jacked up. I will pass that picture on the Andy Walker. Parts List shows the C3OZ-A bracket for the Mk I. My thought is that it would mount to one of the timing cover bolts. I don't think I have ever seen a bracket at the front of the engine but we need to explore that avenue. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Gary Winblad [mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 11:46 AM To: rfraser@bluefrog.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets Ron, Attached are two lousy photos of the two fuel brackets still existing on B9470585 (it is hardly stock so..) I don't think I have ever seen a bracket from the water pump bolt. Could it be that the one at the front of the engine is in the parts list as the last two pieces that you show. It IS two pieces, one is an "angle" and one IS a "clip and screw". Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Fraser via Tigers To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 15:53:25 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets There has been a discussion about the fuel line brackets for the Tiger engines. Parts List indicates 3 brackets mounted to the Tiger engines. @ the rear of the engine 1224792 Plate - Pipe carrier 9116027 Grommet Mk I 9176015 Grommet Mk II @ the right side front corner of the block 1224791 Angle - Pipe clip support Superseded by 1229865 1229865 Angle @ the front of the engine 6100292 C3OZ-9180-A Mk I 6100909 Mk II National Parts Depot lists 3 different fuel line brackets. Bob Mannel confirmed that # 9180-0A is a reproduction of the C3OZ-A part. This part was mounted under one of the water pump bolts and painted satin black with the engine; the clip and screw were natural color. I don't know if painted is correct for the Tiger engine. NPD part #9180-1A is the 1965 bracket and #9180-1B is the 1966 bracket. Anyone have an original fuel line bracket mounted to the front of their engine? Which bolt is it under? Which style bracket was used on the Mk II engine? Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 12:14:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA0225859AE for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:14:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-37.everyone.net (unknown [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403432584F40 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:48:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004959.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t16Inh7x028002; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 10:52:46 -0800 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 401892ba) id dm0213.54d120c2.14be2; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 10:52:39 -0800 To: "'Gary Winblad'" Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 13:52:33 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBCJQo1uPMOOlSPT2CF51G3Lh6yMwABB/2gmC54jXSYLlB/sA== engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-06_06:2015-02-06,2015-02-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502060189 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Gary The bracket at the front right side of the engine is a very simple bracket. An angle bracket with 2 holes, an "R" clip for the fuel line with screws and washers plus a 7/16" UNC bolt for the side of the block. The C3OZ-A is a totally different bracket. I have never seen one on a Tiger engine; that's the reason for some investigation. I believe this one would be mounted to the timing cover but I don't know for sure. Yes, the NPD part looks like it could hold 2 lines - the original C3OZ-A only 1 line. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Gary Winblad [mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 12:01 PM To: rfraser@bluefrog.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets Ron, That NPD bracket would definetly be functionally the same as the front bracket on my Tigers. L bracket and pipe clamp in ONE piece. On MKI Tigers it bolts to an un-used boss on the block, low on the front right(passenger) side. The NPD bracket is cosmetically wrong though.. looks like a cheap repro.. and why would it need to hold two lines on an early engine? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Fraser via Tigers To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:27:26 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets I see a little confusion in my words. The C3OZ-A bracket was mounted under a water pump bolt on standard Ford engines. This bracket was mounted somewhere at the front right on the Tiger engines probably a timing cover bolt. I'm just trying to confirm the brackets and their location on the front of the Tiger engines. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser via Tigers Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:53 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets There has been a discussion about the fuel line brackets for the Tiger engines. Parts List indicates 3 brackets mounted to the Tiger engines. @ the rear of the engine 1224792 Plate - Pipe carrier 9116027 Grommet Mk I 9176015 Grommet Mk II @ the right side front corner of the block 1224791 Angle - Pipe clip support Superseded by 1229865 1229865 Angle @ the front of the engine 6100292 C3OZ-9180-A Mk I 6100909 Mk II National Parts Depot lists 3 different fuel line brackets. Bob Mannel confirmed that # 9180-0A is a reproduction of the C3OZ-A part. This part was mounted under one of the water pump bolts and painted satin black with the engine; the clip and screw were natural color. I don't know if painted is correct for the Tiger engine. NPD part #9180-1A is the 1965 bracket and #9180-1B is the 1966 bracket. Anyone have an original fuel line bracket mounted to the front of their engine? Which bolt is it under? Which style bracket was used on the Mk II engine? Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4281/1 - Release Date: 01/07/15 Internal Virus Database is out of date. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 12:34:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F93C2584F25 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:34:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B64862584A13 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:06:21 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1423249854; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=IF4Gj3gh+hDMvI9LoAnnqRtWIoOHwRqBUnmIq2jgsBABM2IsHZXOdgnppuc4ka8Cd 8dL5/gJnD04Ri0R9dHsY47x/tlnSdQOW7MIjPt55kl09v+wuOn8Qs1CPTY0J+LqERK 3rjHdYVfb8aMAIfwD7ERIUsNCVQAlHjT+LD7E1jw= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop10.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.30]) by smtpout04.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABLPLENFA24ERHA for (sender ); Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:09:57 -0800 (PST) To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 11:08:00 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] Tiger upper radiator hose From: brockctella--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Blew my upper radiator hose and ordered a new one from Sunbeam Specialties. It is short and will not clear my fan. I tried cutting the hose on the other end but does not help. I went through my Shop Notes and it has very dated info on hose numbers. Anyone have a current replacement hose number and make? Thanks ____________________________________________________________ The #1 Worst Carb Ever? Click to Learn #1 Carb that Kills Your Blood Sugar (Don't Eat This!) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54d511863193e1185242bst04vuc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 13:30:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBAE2584CBC for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 13:30:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 239122584A69 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 13:09:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t16KBHUk016876; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:14:04 -0800 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189186) id dm0219.54d12217.1128b; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:14:02 -0800 To: , Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 15:13:56 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBCRI1TElrjT1N5QKu1Irq6tf4IrgAAyEMg engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-06_06:2015-02-06,2015-02-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502060205 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger upper radiator hose From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Here are the numbers I have - you will have to cut to fit Upper Dayco 627 NAPA 7459 Dayco 70627 Dayco 71015 Dayco CH666 Are you sure your fan is in the correct position? Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of brockctella--- via Tigers Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 2:08 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tiger upper radiator hose Blew my upper radiator hose and ordered a new one from Sunbeam Specialties. It is short and will not clear my fan. I tried cutting the hose on the other end but does not help. I went through my Shop Notes and it has very dated info on hose numbers. Anyone have a current replacement hose number and make? Thanks ____________________________________________________________ The #1 Worst Carb Ever? Click to Learn #1 Carb that Kills Your Blood Sugar (Don't Eat This!) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/54d511863193e1185242bst04vuc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4281/1 - Release Date: 01/07/15 Internal Virus Database is out of date. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 6 15:31:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69E3258479B for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 15:31:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.167]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723522580682 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2015 15:10:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.229]) by resqmta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id pADH1p0024xDoy801AEvw2; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 22:14:55 +0000 Received: from TomHP ([IPv6:2601:1:9d00:e9b:6c6f:2dac:2ab5:65f1]) by resomta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id pAEv1p0065N0Ayn01AEvW5; Fri, 06 Feb 2015 22:14:55 +0000 To: Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 15:14:51 -0700 Thread-Index: AdBCWQUhl+8lc5tfQJOq+xscEmtY7A== Content-Language: en-us s=q20140121; t=1423260895; bh=Be4t77ZOYK24JyPAE9vLa48bfIDDOtxtxceEP6xAfOk=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=iP6biwZk0/0IQljFyETg3UmeRixjF5wXqF9ea4CJCGta49yOw/Eo6vA/TCmNmIzQ1 TWf0RDvOQb3Mv4B7X/okxvslQVbJYtPzsStI5IMmWLtaJ9aBnypSbJvSkHPC60z720 TSGp2mBqj/DO4K4h6+EVfUnTQyq7BmrB8OYITObfHrwY2gT1LFOCN6ClWVkAhmQwiH yqLzGX80IpjJHVJtPDQ/3HrF9ZQVbV2nTwWcqaP2Vn+k2cbzNeaQ+ld4CHA9OrkNUl dRipwyEu5r5mdayjbudXY633iUX1GrTePeA1UtE3VTxNEe/hd19833xIr5iw8ips2t WolH25a9RgKfw== Subject: [Tigers] Parts From: Tom Kukla via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Gentlemen, I have been getting rid of my spare parts but till have the following parts for sale: - License plate bracket and lights (includes wiring and glass) - Trunk latch & bracket (no key) - Original chrome trunk hinges (in good shape, some pitting) - Chrome trim around windshield - Cowl air intake plates - Console (no ash tray) - Two spindles - Steering column shroud If you are interested in any of the items, let me know and I will send you a picture of the item. Tom Kukla tlkukla@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 7 16:43:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA9D25804AD for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 16:43:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01564258018A for ; Sat, 7 Feb 2015 16:33:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.226]) by resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id pbdJ1p0034tLnxL01bdb9W; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:37:35 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.105] ([67.187.173.199]) by resomta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id pbda1p00G4JVVuB01bdbF4; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 23:37:35 +0000 Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 15:37:35 -0800 References: <1799BF7D722F48C78AF7140AE09C4C95@ronpc1> To: "" s=q20140121; t=1423352255; bh=Dm17wn/5V5ZsbwYWu5iBxEgqsC93vBl9JEf2ChuJjHg=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=mlF3TMgsYBuqNKnwjzmBvAJCJKp818yxQ7dWzeQkJlIwyHvmvQd8bGVVB2NV0LSSd Kltf7LEGXUVJeVlA2G65Hh09VN66pKo2my2gL5X+Kp9pKkfw3WU5lFIfVZrqjerfHE Jzqn+VHZmIrG9qnt/UPYYprBEzgVloSFEZnM8FGx1+Fk/NCtmhRXVM4LdFjsdX6Ndu dusCpVnhIduG/bKN3opdnGWNK+4v8b5wYo4eQerB+BQJB3eO1hFVLNyl/ERMDaSZqU PTEXLjLT51LxEgsrSzNTraBC/5cEgiDlFFJ0KcxchKhmpC+cXwfOjio7BRNwcHW4HS SkuJJiO5E10fA== Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets From: Gary via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ron, >From that photo, the NPD part looks like a pretty good repro. Your shop note(?) is from 1963. The part was probably put into production for all cars after that. In my "How to Rebuild Your Small Block Ford" book by Monroe there are several good pictures of Ford engines with the part including at least a 2bbl 289 and a Hipo. It looks mounted at the top center under the water pump bolt just like your photo. Wouldn't be on any Tiger since our line comes up way over on the passenger side. Gary Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Ron Fraser wrote: > > Gary > The bracket at the front right side of the engine is a very simple > bracket. An angle bracket with 2 holes, an "R" clip for the fuel line with > screws and washers plus a 7/16" UNC bolt for the side of the block. > > The C3OZ-A is a totally different bracket. I have never seen one on a Tiger > engine; that's the reason for some investigation. I believe this one would > be mounted to the timing cover but I don't know for sure. Yes, the NPD part > looks like it could hold 2 lines - the original C3OZ-A only 1 line. > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Winblad [mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 12:01 PM > To: rfraser@bluefrog.com > Cc: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets > > > Ron, > That NPD bracket would definetly be functionally the same as the front > bracket on my Tigers. L bracket and pipe clamp in ONE piece. On MKI Tigers > it bolts to an un-used boss on the block, low on the front right(passenger) > side. The NPD bracket is cosmetically > wrong though.. looks like a cheap repro.. and why would it need to hold two > lines on an early engine? Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron Fraser via Tigers > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:27:26 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets > > I see a little confusion in my words. The C3OZ-A bracket was mounted under > a water pump bolt on standard Ford engines. This bracket was mounted > somewhere at the front right on the Tiger engines probably a timing cover > bolt. > > I'm just trying to confirm the brackets and their location on the front of > the Tiger engines. > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser > via Tigers > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:53 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets > > > There has been a discussion about the fuel line brackets for the Tiger > engines. > > Parts List indicates 3 brackets mounted to the Tiger engines. > > @ the rear of the engine > 1224792 Plate - Pipe carrier > 9116027 Grommet Mk I > 9176015 Grommet Mk II > > @ the right side front corner of the block > 1224791 Angle - Pipe clip support Superseded by 1229865 > 1229865 Angle > > @ the front of the engine > 6100292 C3OZ-9180-A Mk I > 6100909 Mk II > > National Parts Depot lists 3 different fuel line brackets. > > Bob Mannel confirmed that # 9180-0A is a reproduction of the C3OZ-A part. > This part was mounted under one of the water pump bolts and painted satin > black with the engine; the clip and screw were natural color. I don't know > if painted is correct for the Tiger engine. > > NPD part #9180-1A is the 1965 bracket and #9180-1B is the 1966 bracket. > > Anyone have an original fuel line bracket mounted to the front of their > engine? > > Which bolt is it under? > > Which style bracket was used on the Mk II engine? > > Ron Fraser > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4281/1 - Release Date: 01/07/15 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 8 09:10:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5FF2584AF9 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:10:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m1.mx.aol.com (omr-m1.mx.aol.com [64.12.224.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D51932580BD2 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:09:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mcd02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcd02.mx.aol.com [172.26.223.208]) by omr-m1.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2261A380000AF for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 11:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-lqa01e.mail.aol.com (core-lqa01.mail.aol.com [10.76.8.11]) by mtaomg-mcd02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id F0F0938000081 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 11:14:13 -0500 (EST) Full-name: Rollright Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 11:14:13 -0500 To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1423412054; bh=vtsmUZmuOlTGWEl7z3lfqeqp9DzURSOc9QZV/Uw+jFs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ROXRCGh7Qej1+WflZber1rUKnUnmE//WvIA6zfmGepXBFR/yWGYtz4U4PcezT9aLD f5BftGwtuIGcV4pvtf9tQf9QQY5IbGyPbh13ORv6eqpaiCH7GkV8YNJHsluJb7N8Or zW9lNqN3L/Zd76B3fQeR4UZdeINMO/AtVvkMKONY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1adfd054d78b55502e Subject: [Tigers] lifting jacks From: Rollright--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, I've owned my Mk1A since spring of 1976. When I got it, it came with a black jack with appropriate small label that was clearly a Rootes jack; it fit the square body tubes and worked. Years ago, in the late 1980s, I visited a junk yard in Berkeley CA. There was a low-fin Alpine, and I bought the jack it had in its trunk and brought it home to Massachusetts. After recently deciding to refresh/restore my trunk, I started to think about the two jacks. They are almost identical except for difference in length. My original (?) jack is about 1.5" longer. Yesterday I looked up in both the Alpine and Tiger "TOOLS" sections of their respective parts catalogs. The Tiger Parts catalog contained Mk1-Mk2. Here is what I found: Alpine: part number up to B395000595 uses 1201342 from B395000566 uses 5520473 Tiger: up to B9473324 1201342 from B9473325 5520473 The Question: Am I correct in the assumption that the shorter (earlier) jack is # 1201342 and the longer (later) jack is # 5520473 ??? Thanks in advance, Jim Armstrong 382002083 Mk 1A code 86 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 8 09:54:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7808D2584BBD for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:54:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC63E25809DE for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:42:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t18GkFSv010183; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 08:46:44 -0800 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a208) id sj1-dm103.54d12225.27fb2; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 08:46:40 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.108]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 16:46:35 -0000 To: , Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 11:46:09 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBDulAQqbk7QtmBSOaklU7UQLS+8AAAv9Ug engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-08_03:2015-02-08,2015-02-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502080183 Subject: Re: [Tigers] lifting jacks From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim Good question. TBON states Tiger jack was painted black except for the South African cars. The standard Alpine jack was painted gray. The jack I pulled out of a Series IV Alpine was painted black so not sure color is a good standard for ID. Sunbeamalpine.org has some information. Here is what I pulled from them. Lifting jack- 5220473 (grey paint) For SV's B395000596 and after. 19" Shelley - Made in England Lifting jack - 1201342 (black paint) For all Alpines up to B395000595. 20" Shelley - Made in England Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright--- via Tigers Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 11:14 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] lifting jacks Hello, I've owned my Mk1A since spring of 1976. When I got it, it came with a black jack with appropriate small label that was clearly a Rootes jack; it fit the square body tubes and worked. Years ago, in the late 1980s, I visited a junk yard in Berkeley CA. There was a low-fin Alpine, and I bought the jack it had in its trunk and brought it home to Massachusetts. After recently deciding to refresh/restore my trunk, I started to think about the two jacks. They are almost identical except for difference in length. My original (?) jack is about 1.5" longer. Yesterday I looked up in both the Alpine and Tiger "TOOLS" sections of their respective parts catalogs. The Tiger Parts catalog contained Mk1-Mk2. Here is what I found: Alpine: part number up to B395000595 uses 1201342 from B395000566 uses 5520473 Tiger: up to B9473324 1201342 from B9473325 5520473 The Question: Am I correct in the assumption that the shorter (earlier) jack is # 1201342 and the longer (later) jack is # 5520473 ??? Thanks in advance, Jim Armstrong 382002083 Mk 1A code 86 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 8 11:09:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D7F2584A29 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 11:09:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF21225803B5 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 10:59:03 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=GLoXiK7b2N0wUoOzk52DTfXkCKKBl1/LCA6ekV60CwliFuFjvSwmhU6Rowtkxw6D; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.203.136.154] (helo=XPS2710.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1YKWCp-0006eI-71 for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 13:03:39 -0500 Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2015 10:03:23 -0800 To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] NO ABSOLUTES - Lifting Jacks From: "Norman C. Miller via Tigers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net As with all things "Tiger", there are simply no absolutes. http://www.classictiger.com/norms/prema/grey_jack_list.jpg Norm _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 8 13:12:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A2192584CA7 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 13:12:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DE22584B8C for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 13:09:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t18KAgKZ022762 for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 12:14:01 -0800 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a208) id dm0219.54d12217.2dcef for ; Sun, 8 Feb 2015 12:13:43 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.108]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sun, 08 Feb 2015 20:13:40 -0000 To: Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 15:13:13 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBD26pUexkHAtK1RHiwyDfvdaFL3w== engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-08_03:2015-02-08,2015-02-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502080223 Subject: [Tigers] Fuel line brackets From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've sent this a couple of times but I have not seen it back to me. Apologies if this note has reached the List. I just want to include everyone in this discussion. Ron Fraser Gary This is all part of the investigation. The C30Z-A bracket is listed in the Parts List for the Mk I and the MK II part list indicates a 6100909 bracket which is a Rootes # for a Ford part. NPD shows a different bracket for 1965 and 1966. This bracket would have to moved to somewhere on the timing cover some how. I don't recall ever seeing one. A bracket at the front of the engine would add stability to the fuel line. So the questions are: How did Rootes repurpose the Ford fuel line bracket? Does any Mk I owner have the C3OZ-A fuel line bracket on the front of their engine? Where is it mounted? Does anyone have a Ford with an original C3OZ-A bracket? I would like to see a picture and some measurement of the part. Does any Mk II owner have a fuel line bracket at the front of their engine? Which bracket is it and where is it mounted? I'd like to see a picture of that bracket too. $B!!(B Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 6:38 PM To: Cc: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets $B!!(B Ron, >From that photo, the NPD part looks like a pretty good repro. Your shop note(?) is from 1963. The part was probably put into production for all cars after that. In my "How to Rebuild Your Small Block Ford" book by Monroe there are several good pictures of Ford engines with the part including at least a 2bbl 289 and a Hipo. It looks mounted at the top center under the water pump bolt just like your photo. Wouldn't be on any Tiger since our line comes up way over on the passenger side. Gary $B!!(B Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Ron Fraser wrote: > Gary The bracket at the front right side of the engine is a very simple bracket. An angle bracket with 2 holes, an "R" clip for the fuel line with screws and washers plus a 7/16" UNC bolt for the side of the block. The C3OZ-A is a totally different bracket. I have never seen one on a Tiger engine; that's the reason for some investigation. I believe this one would be mounted to the timing cover but I don't know for sure. Yes, the NPD part looks like it could hold 2 lines - the original C3OZ-A only 1 line. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net]Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 12:01 PM To: rfraser@bluefrog.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets Ron, That NPD bracket would definitely be functionally the same as the front bracket on my Tigers. L bracket and pipe clamp in ONE piece. On MKI Tigers it bolts to an un-used boss on the block, low on the front right(passenger) side. The NPD bracket is cosmetically wrong though.. looks like a cheap repro.. and why would it need to hold two lines on an early engine? Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ron Fraser via Tigers > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 16:27:26 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets > > I see a little confusion in my words. The C3OZ-A bracket was mounted under a water pump bolt on standard Ford engines. This bracket was mounted somewhere at the front right on the Tiger engines probably a timing cover bolt. I'm just trying to confirm the brackets and their location on the front of the Tiger engines. Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron > Fraser via Tigers > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:53 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Fuel line Brackets There has been a discussion about the fuel line brackets for the Tiger engines. Parts List indicates 3 brackets mounted to the Tiger engines. @ the rear of the engine 1224792 Plate - Pipe carrier 9116027 Grommet Mk I 9176015 Grommet Mk II @ the right side front corner of the block 1224791 Angle - Pipe clip support Superseded by 1229865 1229865 Angle @ the front of the engine 6100292 C3OZ-9180-A Mk I 6100909 Mk II > National Parts Depot lists 3 different fuel line brackets. > Bob Mannel confirmed that # 9180-0A is a reproduction of the C3OZ-A part. This part was mounted under one of the water pump bolts and painted satin black with the engine; the clip and screw were natural color. I don't know if painted is correct for the Tiger engine. NPD part #9180-1A is the 1965 bracket and #9180-1B is the 1966 bracket. Anyone have an original fuel line bracket mounted to the front of their engine? Which bolt is it under? Which style bracket was used on the Mk II engine? Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 9 07:52:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E391625809F6 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 07:52:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF1B258087D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 07:52:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo306 ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150209145640.FDZN20038.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo306> for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 09:56:40 -0500 Received: from eastrmwml106 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo306 with cox id qEwg1p00P4h0NJL01EwgTk; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 09:56:40 -0500 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=whJDxt0rI0Zk78yi4s4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 9:56:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 9:56:40 -0500 To: rfraser@bluefrog.com Sensitivity: Normal Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Original fuel line From: awtiger--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, guys: Do any of you guys who have modded their fuel systems over the years have original fuel lines that you would like to get rid of? All I'm really interested in are the two lines in the engine compartment, both upper and lower lines. Please let me know if you have a set that you would like to sell. Failing that, has anyone on the list ever dealt with Classic Tube out of New York? I believe someone mentioned them in an earlier discussion and I have looked on their website. They do have a fuel line kit available for a Tiger, although it's everything from the crossover tube forward, most of which I don't need. My main concern is that I want fuel lines that at least look correct in configuration. Has anyone had direct experience with them and is their product worthy of calling "correct original replacements?" Thanks much, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 9 10:09:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242A625848B4 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 10:09:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mf1.lakemail.com (mf1.dido.com [216.106.62.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B2725846D9 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 09:58:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from RedBudAdminPC (unknown [199.187.162.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jimmc13@mf1) by mf1.lakemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CE559403E3; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 11:03:00 -0600 (CST) To: , References: <413F792287C445C2A3EEC422BCD86BD6@ronpc1> <20150209095640.ZLLBX.337176.imail@eastrmwml106> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 11:02:59 -0600 Thread-Index: AQIMbWTMdQPJitZswmRphDhsbUDMaJxwOF3A Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] Original fuel line From: Jim McLaughlin via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Andy, I bought a set of brake and fuel lines from Classic Tube. The stainless version was very well suited to my 1966 Mark 1a. I did not use the engine pieces as I have a modified 260, cam with 4 bbl carb etc. Let me check to see if I have the 2 pieces for the fuel line. Brake lines fit very well front to rear and across the front member. I have wildwood fronts though and could not use everything. I will try to reply today to tomorrow afternoon CST. Jim McLaughlin B382000175 LRXFE -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of awtiger--- via Tigers Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 8:57 AM To: rfraser@bluefrog.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Original fuel line Hey, guys: Do any of you guys who have modded their fuel systems over the years have original fuel lines that you would like to get rid of? All I'm really interested in are the two lines in the engine compartment, both upper and lower lines. Please let me know if you have a set that you would like to sell. Failing that, has anyone on the list ever dealt with Classic Tube out of New York? I believe someone mentioned them in an earlier discussion and I have looked on their website. They do have a fuel line kit available for a Tiger, although it's everything from the crossover tube forward, most of which I don't need. My main concern is that I want fuel lines that at least look correct in configuration. Has anyone had direct experience with them and is their product worthy of calling "correct original replacements?" Thanks much, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@socket.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 9 10:54:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE12B2584ABD for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 10:54:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-37.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B852584858 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 10:49:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t19HnfKQ016441; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 09:54:20 -0800 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a209) id dm0213.54d120c2.39cd5; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 09:54:18 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.22]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 17:54:11 -0000 To: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 12:53:44 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBEeJy68LxGX6hUShqSbNH1mp7eEAAF3ugg engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-09_02:2015-02-09,2015-02-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502090179 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Original fuel line From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Andy I have seen Classic Tube products at several Mustang shows; they look excellent. I have not bought anything from them. Paul Fix is one of the owners, he is sometimes on Legendary Motor Cars with Peter Klute working on brake lines. Classic Tube goes to great lengths to make exact copies of every line for every make and model. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: awtiger@cox.net [mailto:awtiger@cox.net] Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 9:57 AM To: rfraser@bluefrog.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Original fuel line Hey, guys: Do any of you guys who have modded their fuel systems over the years have original fuel lines that you would like to get rid of? All I'm really interested in are the two lines in the engine compartment, both upper and lower lines. Please let me know if you have a set that you would like to sell. Failing that, has anyone on the list ever dealt with Classic Tube out of New York? I believe someone mentioned them in an earlier discussion and I have looked on their website. They do have a fuel line kit available for a Tiger, although it's everything from the crossover tube forward, most of which I don't need. My main concern is that I want fuel lines that at least look correct in configuration. Has anyone had direct experience with them and is their product worthy of calling "correct original replacements?" Thanks much, Andy Walker Edmond, OK ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4281/1 - Release Date: 01/07/15 Internal Virus Database is out of date. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 9 11:25:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF11B2584BBE for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 11:25:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC3S24.hotmail.com (bay004-omc3s24.hotmail.com [65.54.190.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540062580299 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 11:17:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY172-DS4 ([65.54.190.188]) by BAY004-OMC3S24.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 9 Feb 2015 10:22:25 -0800 To: , References: Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 12:22:23 -0600 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 12:22:23 -0600 FILETIME=[5A6097C0:01D04495] Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Original fuel line From: Thomas Prager via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I used Classic Tube for all my gas and brake lines in stainless. Everything fit without a hitch. tom ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Original fuel line Andy I have seen Classic Tube products at several Mustang shows; they look excellent. I have not bought anything from them. Paul Fix is one of the owners, he is sometimes on Legendary Motor Cars with Peter Klute working on brake lines. Classic Tube goes to great lengths to make exact copies of every line for every make and model. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 9:57 AM Subject: Original fuel line Hey, guys: Do any of you guys who have modded their fuel systems over the years have original fuel lines that you would like to get rid of? All I'm really interested in are the two lines in the engine compartment, both upper and lower lines. Please let me know if you have a set that you would like to sell. Failing that, has anyone on the list ever dealt with Classic Tube out of New York? I believe someone mentioned them in an earlier discussion and I have looked on their website. They do have a fuel line kit available for a Tiger, although it's everything from the crossover tube forward, most of which I don't need. My main concern is that I want fuel lines that at least look correct in configuration. Has anyone had direct experience with them and is their product worthy of calling "correct original replacements?" Thanks much, Andy Walker Edmond, OK ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4281/1 - Release Date: 01/07/15 Internal Virus Database is out of date. _______________________________________________ Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tcprager@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 9 12:56:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28C2258048F for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 12:56:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.centurylink.net (mail.centurylink.net [205.219.233.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ECBC25800A5 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 12:56:50 -0700 (MST) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1423512084; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=TQTzSVbwbLMWMWN0Y+48gDoD9DQ=; b=b+yRPe5umTvnaqMFpQVSxDH/Kz8n+5yziyqFl731hKvHNfL8TMEx/5YWJFX4jEhT CpCZe68SSayTi59U5sT4k60nzbXxJwoCPPdebuq6MfleWY/hc24bZR0S2jIGriRz zUlgqNJywYpeU4GQHPw1njtrPrdzS5cMqt2178v8wTPODXNhNkqlN+oRsGo7mVBN NqvnHICdGAU/orVRq9KaBZ58kR42poaUF3TiTqSdqxfZtzuz92DJOCW3G+fklnlz NywqowKsgJ7KA9mInjEk3pki3t/ded/r1qR+xP+p/PgttInMrgYSdAQ1iYoamyr6 g2pPGx1QaSkCubyeR49M1A==; X_CMAE_Category: , , a=W8mxH5voMTj4xUqEXwRPNg==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=gpkrIBUcAAAA:8 a=igM7HAStu4UUqbtjf4YA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=IqvTn7uOF2oA:10 a=6ru3GgSWC_hCBnpi:21 a=2CuEFyEg77FQhlMe:21 a=W8mxH5voMTj4xUqEXwRPNg==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.user=wseay; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [71.51.21.244] ([71.51.21.244:58160] helo=PCWin7) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTPA id 0F/B7-29018-11219D45; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 15:01:23 -0500 To: , , References: <375F7396AB07489BB0127C4C65A6AE1B@ronpc1> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 15:01:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [Tigers] lifting jacks From: wseay via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net B382001570 had (has) a grey jack. -Will Will Seay - wseay@embarqmail.com ______________________________ "I think not therefore I am not" (anon) -----Original Message----- From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 11:46 AM To: Rollright@aol.com ; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] lifting jacks Jim Good question. TBON states Tiger jack was painted black except for the South African cars. The standard Alpine jack was painted gray. The jack I pulled out of a Series IV Alpine was painted black so not sure color is a good standard for ID. Sunbeamalpine.org has some information. Here is what I pulled from them. Lifting jack- 5220473 (grey paint) For SV's B395000596 and after. 19" Shelley - Made in England Lifting jack - 1201342 (black paint) For all Alpines up to B395000595. 20" Shelley - Made in England Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright--- via Tigers Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 11:14 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] lifting jacks Hello, I've owned my Mk1A since spring of 1976. When I got it, it came with a black jack with appropriate small label that was clearly a Rootes jack; it fit the square body tubes and worked. Years ago, in the late 1980s, I visited a junk yard in Berkeley CA. There was a low-fin Alpine, and I bought the jack it had in its trunk and brought it home to Massachusetts. After recently deciding to refresh/restore my trunk, I started to think about the two jacks. They are almost identical except for difference in length. My original (?) jack is about 1.5" longer. Yesterday I looked up in both the Alpine and Tiger "TOOLS" sections of their respective parts catalogs. The Tiger Parts catalog contained Mk1-Mk2. Here is what I found: Alpine: part number up to B395000595 uses 1201342 from B395000566 uses 5520473 Tiger: up to B9473324 1201342 from B9473325 5520473 The Question: Am I correct in the assumption that the shorter (earlier) jack is # 1201342 and the longer (later) jack is # 5520473 ??? Thanks in advance, Jim Armstrong 382002083 Mk 1A code 86 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 10 13:14:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952D72580489 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 13:14:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF6B2580059 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 13:14:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.99]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7835C700000B5 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:18:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-lqa02d.mail.aol.com (core-lqa02.mail.aol.com [10.76.8.12]) by mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2C19C38000081 for ; Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:18:54 -0500 (EST) Full-name: Rollright Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 15:18:54 -0500 To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1423599534; bh=uRHfpl3CTedFQIdULQFUE0HbyczbmnviAsmP/GuB0D8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b1lYNyhAS5R2Gd/4vuahD5MAR8pVD67cYVxh+qfpwrLVN7iH+ZXiNDXOFOHy8GPwD fJNMLtin1KhXnutq7pmfZ3ms2Wwa1FySqa1uQcLwgMe8moRtPsJ5fO19aaIHB41jxt fpMS6sOhLngQ5sFJpArIEzOxyJfTcvJgr7CX+LgE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b026354da67ae24f9 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 38 From: Rollright--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net BTW: Norm sent an interesting picture of a lifting jack that was painted grey. it was positioned at the rear of a Tiger slid into a lifting point. That actually wasn't the oddest thing: the lifting handle/lug wrench was of a normal design but REALLY BIG. I don't know it the one in the photo would clip onto a Tiger's trunk floor. Any comments out there? Jim Armstrong Today's Topics: 1. Re: lifting jacks (wseay) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 15:01:26 -0500 From: "wseay" To: , , Subject: Re: [Tigers] lifting jacks reply-type=original B382001570 had (has) a grey jack. -Will Will Seay - wseay@embarqmail.com ______________________________ "I think not therefore I am not" (anon) -----Original Message----- From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 11:46 AM To: Rollright@aol.com ; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] lifting jacks Jim Good question. TBON states Tiger jack was painted black except for the South African cars. The standard Alpine jack was painted gray. The jack I pulled out of a Series IV Alpine was painted black so not sure color is a good standard for ID. Sunbeamalpine.org has some information. Here is what I pulled from them. Lifting jack- 5220473 (grey paint) For SV's B395000596 and after. 19" Shelley - Made in England Lifting jack - 1201342 (black paint) For all Alpines up to B395000595. 20" Shelley - Made in England Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright--- via Tigers Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 11:14 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] lifting jacks Hello, I've owned my Mk1A since spring of 1976. When I got it, it came with a black jack with appropriate small label that was clearly a Rootes jack; it fit the square body tubes and worked. Years ago, in the late 1980s, I visited a junk yard in Berkeley CA. There was a low-fin Alpine, and I bought the jack it had in its trunk and brought it home to Massachusetts. After recently deciding to refresh/restore my trunk, I started to think about the two jacks. They are almost identical except for difference in length. My original (?) jack is about 1.5" longer. Yesterday I looked up in both the Alpine and Tiger "TOOLS" sections of their respective parts catalogs. The Tiger Parts catalog contained Mk1-Mk2. Here is what I found: Alpine: part number up to B395000595 uses 1201342 from B395000566 uses 5520473 Tiger: up to B9473324 1201342 from B9473325 5520473 The Question: Am I correct in the assumption that the shorter (earlier) jack is # 1201342 and the longer (later) jack is # 5520473 ??? Thanks in advance, Jim Armstrong 382002083 Mk 1A code 86 ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Tigers mailing list Tigers@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers ------------------------------ End of Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 38 ************************************* _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 11 22:11:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B522580A19 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 22:11:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-02.shaw.ca (smtp-out-02.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765B62580160 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 22:10:57 -0700 (MST) cv=UbGOdjJMTOnDdlSKs4VLEv47Nwxh2hlhayjdFxkzNJk= c=1 sm=1 a=4Y1Az08UtVsA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=OaeE/iO9IIESsEEgxPvV+A==:17 a=x_Crs1R2AAAA:8 a=74MKvGqxtsPEYvPBracA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=1HFpwsU5DH8A:10 a=QXivIlSNqp4A:10 a=gTyZItNX3_MA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.112]) ([184.64.170.19]) by smtp-out-02.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 11 Feb 2015 22:15:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 22:15:30 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tigers United search function From: Theo Smit via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey all, It was pointed out to me that the search function for TigersUnited.com was broken. Found out that 'Pico search' has gone defunct, so I went in and replaced it with a Google search dialog. Happy hunting! If you find pages that don't render please let me know... Cheers, Theo _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 07:40:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA79B25848F4 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 07:40:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B102580151 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 07:39:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo209 ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150212144437.INCT21735.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo209> for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:44:37 -0500 Received: from eastrmwml301 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo209 with cox id rSkd1p0014h0NJL01SkdF8; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:44:37 -0500 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=x_Crs1R2AAAA:8 a=lvwZy9_a5JFSOA-x-zAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=1HFpwsU5DH8A:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 9:44:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 9:44:37 -0500 To: Theo Smit Sensitivity: Normal Cc: Theo Smit via Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers United search function From: awtiger--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, Theo...it's a great research source. Andy ---- Theo Smit via Tigers wrote: > Hey all, > It was pointed out to me that the search function for TigersUnited.com > was broken. Found out that 'Pico search' has gone defunct, so I went in > and replaced it with a Google search dialog. Happy hunting! > > If you find pages that don't render please let me know... > > Cheers, > Theo > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 08:11:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726A32584946 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 08:11:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.centurylink.net (mail.centurylink.net [205.219.233.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0F92584839 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 08:11:41 -0700 (MST) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1423754179; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=qvdTGroVmnA7blvbEsSs3q5Rhek=; b=f/Rrb7xu5x2WXkhIvpkmwbZ6QMYEg32mx+ptHH7aYo5KTYEX3vGh9UHuzG7oFNRL Aks4U8mvmW9kywTTNgQW55/MogpTUdDCqigdzoHGfDsQu3LcxMXHCkw9jvYsDn84 oEyt12NwkUAKN0U8NEcwtZ5EqLewLPGVch6VFvXCDGe2uAd7wwHqyoDprOA15x/P hqYH5ndXzXCNKpWc3mLV34XRuB2eOTofjDvT+FystRiwbPcV67y6XvIEuMuTycPK X918ehRDeV4v8eTvgiyHx+keHJhp/8g/ynUeO36k/3JsI0KF12GYNRsVY/cly5uM q32T+Oj6OqEkBq4pANSk3w==; X_CMAE_Category: , , a=HbABExZJQQOTy7NU0BypTw==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=x_Crs1R2AAAA:8 a=bfwZK9PkG0yYqOrznT8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=1HFpwsU5DH8A:10 a=HbABExZJQQOTy7NU0BypTw==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp02.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.user=wseay; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [71.51.22.207] ([71.51.22.207:60726] helo=PCWin7) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTPA id 39/0A-20895-0C3CCD45; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:16:18 -0500 To: "Theo Smit" , References: <54DC36F2.5090607@shaw.ca> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:16:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers United search function From: wseay via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Theo. Will be good to have the search function back on the air. Will Seay - wseay@embarqmail.com ______________________________ "I think not therefore I am not" (anon) -----Original Message----- From: Theo Smit via Tigers Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 12:15 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tigers United search function Hey all, It was pointed out to me that the search function for TigersUnited.com was broken. Found out that 'Pico search' has gone defunct, so I went in and replaced it with a Google search dialog. Happy hunting! If you find pages that don't render please let me know... Cheers, Theo _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wseay@embarqmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 10:25:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 430A12584AA5 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:25:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41CA2584895 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 10:25:34 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1423762213; bh=UbFOYS1qNr5eD+6SmLPy+Uc8Rsq+mr+cqCaRap6aYTI=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=m4QjO0aJx3BwrNdfv+lWFLaEPrZU2U0LLzX4t5skpAUts/L9NQvVtnlTKPxhQNbFqEnZFzVTsQxPQcexebXHFX57yU+Z6qRJj4iVsRKHIO/e0GjCFBig9C3gjP/Up1L6iVW1SNPShWW/FoSlJA+Hx8rKPepGPsHKd4rFk+S0v8fCDHxdz6TYngP4/SZ04UBwctDSFI0+zOCWVigQBaaY4PWv/g1SyoI/qI7cAU8DyblhSMmZQxM0rDDyG/cQpFkzbiymcELMxPsHr6M1bWuNEaVK8vgbAU5IhenqqPRKyoJLsNuxgmbXdTaG2Xkx8XUF3tcaNbWPnBPfEA+lP7dqgA== Received: from [216.39.60.182] by nm22.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2015 17:30:13 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.210] by tm18.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2015 17:30:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp221.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2015 17:30:13 -0000 MYHAmHVJXAXb5tU1469QPNsJOjHRETndBwDJx1FjkPBkJjpJtVWreK78cDqX bteuzQUs7EH8qPklvGlPm2FtwYJRfldtwomSqfdXvkRoq03XQ326MNW5uGNm ZBxLpQa5jzRfvrSamvWKe9BLs66sZiPSvpFperaRdeE5pNDAMVEa1eA0ktgL Itfk_n9theP0hVtj562.YerDa.DK4oW.gfNDPawehOFBsjat9h8VC8wJ0Mkm QFQWkn4d6cSWU_ANNrUPkXU6_8eEy4g9xvE.TjJCXA2BgEcHAq3kZruVOlqF 8lUU9OFucLgAZ6Ix_sFngeifxKDwBvyWvqccCaSCmsb0mDhAsjwn8kG_Izn6 z6JGXaj1jfBccYGpRKEl99lmv_.JEZBD5FhGSYb77LNxhcxCTKpyxK1OUmyk U5PfTTm4yPnH4xJcpOaWpiJVw5bEOgNrq0f4YAQtyyxI61i34t4eQqDjf9xk aZM31g3iGYBGOsQbKptvoz6k.ZKSjPqoZo84kI59waFzLxFwJQk88Py38Cap j0_G.HLocY1XVd7ygR3Xtog8D568T3sx_.gfzw42LleXMI.QU6Lqnkog0PBM pRtO5StuHOCz67XorxiXNHQSU5cQ8QP9GSzisBwwSYcMuo3eLNDMD3BxUv3N S_goK4jW61tN6rE6MCQuo7aQF4HPj Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:30:08 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 To: wseay , Theo Smit , tigers@autox.team.net References: <54DC36F2.5090607@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers United search function From: Sandy via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Also if you ever run into this for other sites you can always use Google and do this in the search form at www.google.com- site:TheSiteName.com Query Google will just search that site for your `Query` Bing does this as well (format might be a bit different). Helps when trying to find the needle in the haystack ;) Sandy On 2/12/2015 7:16 AM, wseay via Tigers wrote: > Thanks Theo. Will be good to have the search function back on the air. > > > Will Seay - wseay@embarqmail.com > ______________________________ > "I think not therefore I am not" (anon) > -----Original Message----- From: Theo Smit via Tigers > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 12:15 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Tigers United search function > > Hey all, > It was pointed out to me that the search function for TigersUnited.com > was broken. Found out that 'Pico search' has gone defunct, so I went in > and replaced it with a Google search dialog. Happy hunting! > > If you find pages that don't render please let me know... > > Cheers, > Theo > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wseay@embarqmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 13:06:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00CE3258468C for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:06:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f51.google.com (mail-qa0-f51.google.com [209.85.216.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DEB2580482 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:06:21 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id i13so9365755qae.10 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:11:00 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Cvi/J4dQ+6Wabs3rZJrH3BmnOnohmgh9qbo73MFY0tw=; b=kZc74gzfuKqpiUz/MaQsPCteDggwlayNyzzeTE0O7yfjimpMwX9qWqCkfZHUgVeIO6 jb5my9X+3fyZHzW43qFvyQQ7eHaTr9AnS6kJ8Ia6oEWjhrVJkCRyWA9h7ddxcDd0nGFh mHr7RryiRy255bYg+znQcFiHCxMUP44Dd1gSeCQcPAuXe4mcSBeCZWb6WH6BqnYobOyC +CGmQxeuILueYw7yemHdS3wl3js8DYiQSIldvuDfIDjRuEVI/7Zpo4dUqgejnlP+If3R aVKXAqFH4UQKxYyfdrS7Weh/krJBdgoAD4maAg6PaMbt57s39GaXn9OjkP5A1VLDV0Uj EDCw== gq6mr14671738qcb.26.1423771859975; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:10:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.97.117 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:10:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:10:59 -0500 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] wheel offset From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, Can anyone advise an approximately correct offset for 7" wheels with 205 tires? I admit I'm being lazy and trying to order without measuring. Thanks. Owain. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 14:06:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643362584705 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:06:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.131]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E5B72580053 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:04:59 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1423775378; bh=wBGMDmLF39u0142u/qt8DBWJQxasQhpXV0xwN7UPmA4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From:Subject; b=Y0GAb6K+Ay1HCtR3+vK9ZzB34v41qvEOJvNsU+ZjOjok8/5U6Gt32x/QcDDXgl40FcqLtGdx9y/wSH/dAmBuEihWaniHQ5HfdWfH1U9pBW88c1zy4VftR0NYrQF/Za+rCq4k796scJEIurjZZHmwRwSQVlaZmNTyeLvpz23f/aWwP7v49wTOzNCWSRKz260lFPN+ztC6l7r9QUt4yW8YMbohDotlGK7xIk8Rv9tA1lT4gL20BmIXjWFXhLyrb3kk20ShXdk3VpaGAlHttOcMJJUyCXA04palD53iFIw0q+NmtKrI5KL23gbPSBW+s4Fi4CCubtsMdzzS6p2DtYDLTA== Received: from [98.137.12.61] by nm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2015 21:09:38 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.211] by tm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2015 21:09:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp222.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Feb 2015 21:09:38 -0000 j_O.gafZ7h7_RFOTlMtPo2ftbbsH9ic6ML0DAHsuKcd9GPM.ldBgsfS8wTrq kGt_XhUj4nxEiJapmMBirBlumxY3EuDgXt9kP80RRscbJLZQT4NnNhAjfv57 1qQyCuOXykPIMD1Brqmot801etqphtRkEzUlhi5pVD8G.XcftzuzI0LBRWEI o2gImAWWc5hRGWJ2DxeP.s_UyTdU9Y9MexzZBqSnBztm9tLanx3F9aQczqPl NNQpi6vvYAcXpiX0eN5RRDvjBdeNagwgi1qNGQsCPbd_h.YKI7QQ9SqtBuFP RKoEnifoBxWmzDOceraE2QeoRclsEM12mbhLClE4KwFXjWTVF4MhtWqQgmEG XYALZN2Z4EHZleXN99wND7uCa_EM3PcK1rCSNxooZF1fRiBLOkgpiAPFbDnK 6zIAPgxqS4cIrWDmwE_hNnjYkj2k0Qbrv5ns.4Z1LGnakKrWT22GDMBxjZsx fc9ZxPmvTknT3eM4K9SWB5wWb3.c9XPwLFyWFO0DKlUfR8KPyGiadnwsz4QS wTNslNPCxEWGzIlIN61bZvFmBWbncHOgkLxHZzvujYaCMCC1VI4_0iHx0nCe W0FHjs2C7BMk2k0RwpFlqToxjMHd8OzA8eKDxw06fNy6RK4FGW7Nyk1ueZWq Ez9fvss8DCZnDIuQy91fV Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:09:23 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 To: owain.lloyd@gmail.com, "tigers@autox.team.net" References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] wheel offset From: Sandy via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Owain - From some recent facebook discussion this is what I got from one member - -->Wheels 16x7s. 28mm offset front, 15mm offset rear<-- Here are some links to help convert and fiddle with backspace and offset - Simple converters from offset to backspace and visa versa... http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/Backspace-Offset-Calculator.html http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/Offset-to-Backspace.html This one will let you know if a change in offset and width will affect the wheel http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/WheelOffsetCalc.html HTH Sandy On 2/12/2015 12:10 PM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers wrote: > Hello, > > Can anyone advise an approximately correct offset for 7" wheels with 205 > tires? > > I admit I'm being lazy and trying to order without measuring. > > Thanks. > Owain. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 14:36:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D47B25846BF for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:36:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f42.google.com (mail-qa0-f42.google.com [209.85.216.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D55D5258015F for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:35:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id w8so9486614qac.1 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:39:50 -0800 (PST) s=google; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :importance; bh=Y56aKjjONjKKAS4lXA6hAEHBKUQP1J37j4DQ1YFjNSE=; b=e3NUMYe+bLzuEuB/q+yQzPLbu/zwkCwSAlvrSNK1ijhhuaDhHgy2zxo/TiwsvFHcyA sptWuBgQC2dRND8GfXEdiIRj6PI9gkwhqnAtGt6JvDUhZRf0FMaqdS6VR/VrxuWVEsNi 5yzbYmEmOD6EqIjRKWMxmYFXRW+m9TeZnMEWk= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:importance; bh=Y56aKjjONjKKAS4lXA6hAEHBKUQP1J37j4DQ1YFjNSE=; b=mZixggYRcInhOlcfHKhcVBM6zu5Nj6yKjfuKijJQklWozdK6iTi/ymnew1L9gIhmqY r6xgIkYSpU2G1m9JeCvTpRftZdJfjBcVSzxw5ad9n1RUm7Zt1cwTg9SZ9206asOisnK9 56uMEdSUsxX+xwK04Msv7KHv+h9lPE1sjW7BNoG8qLuvogSLe8GCiSER8SPRaTTxZDXD yIBB0oWnnDgCJGkzOhcJW10PBzBo6cE5OrYMujxBjS7q5BXg/AAQ2TLgLblFW33e5U4K 8Xa97kv9BfWbj+0S1vTrl4pW5DU1ZZxpFXX8dLxcMiCtjBgCcJZRRBAPZkQyJZd+Nef6 XV4A== le9mr1154341qcb.20.1423777190640; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from DELL (drmons0544w-047055146047.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net. 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Dave _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 14:52:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E9C2584770 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:52:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f170.google.com (mail-ig0-f170.google.com [209.85.213.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A1625800BA for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:52:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f170.google.com with SMTP id l13so9260168iga.1 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:57:24 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=I+X1F3IAFI0V4h5IsAekUltjK+5goq84/D0Rp4Hbwxo=; b=p2faZ8CGxZbg3KtYY+kcKKpMt21RJwDJ5A9NqUM1mZkBgLhq4pCKqK/1WgO+y+3N/z TOVTWBTJsuFUkX45L3flFMhSuW+3rDVAPAzkeD5ebXzwUTWk8E9JgjfnxfgVV9IyXIR8 SEbNtUUYHQqgFoYzAaSDmFzEy5ebAzb8Fmn97w9ojz0lkJu5pkNt5fbgz+BCn4vUKKp4 1QgVbEYw/IPZ9qt8BybbmumLhyZujcDIervDin1uROjP/smYiaIWHA4wX0WQG2fUlUzC sBFDBOY3kuSdRq4GEKWRogDsdmEcEMcL19R20PZYQ0ofrSTM3ZUBhLU0Wl41olFBjp1y h0jg== iu13mr10992585icc.55.1423778244340; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:57:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.26.199 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:57:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.26.199 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:57:24 -0800 (PST) References: <4648D934BF674B57A3D44F96EE788DFE@DELL> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:57:24 +1100 To: Dave Munroe Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Check this car out: is it for real? From: michael king via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Scam as.... Second run in a week On 13 Feb 2015 05:41, "Dave via Tigers" wrote: > http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/4887572434.html > > If so, who will get there first! Or is it a clone Anyone on this list know > this car? > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 15:06:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6F7258495F for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:06:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f174.google.com (mail-ig0-f174.google.com [209.85.213.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071932584554 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:05:13 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f174.google.com with SMTP id b16so6950104igk.1 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:09:51 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7ik+yh/hM+Nfd1UFV6Jxq7M45+lcWu+aNCx4KlZHeLo=; b=J3dxxEXG7qOwh8LKPAan9iNPWuESWHFtAtyYHhUY7rxVqyw/f96jiH19M3iX/mpajm FxNtTI7s+Fx6INjib7RI+FhoFqz87SxsBD9JfASXh6BUpro8DMDl9pfNpwC+5iR8c0fc DKyCdRaEu08C7vZqq6BwIQFDPNFBUzIgPWEgtZXu2V16ZVoh53RBvj4SY1qI8ApDWGth 0EQ9t42ilxmWEtHiclV2vJui7Dz+i2/ojF0P7fWIJQNHk3P7suzSCLqd8lMKQvN276rh xhgpgXk29yI9LxZ9mKHlOt/gYUpuLT3mx9jWLr4oqJTDPTRTgPwZdpjtFuhuvcgPMCqH CL9A== o125mr7659772ioo.5.1423778991785; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.11.78 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:09:51 -0800 (PST) References: <4648D934BF674B57A3D44F96EE788DFE@DELL> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:09:51 -0800 To: michael king Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Check this car out: is it for real? From: Jay Laifman via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know. With all those extra switches, gauges, stickers and badges, perhaps it's worth less than it otherwise would be. ;-) On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:57 PM, michael king via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Scam as.... Second run in a week > On 13 Feb 2015 05:41, "Dave via Tigers" wrote: > > > http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/4887572434.html > > > > If so, who will get there first! Or is it a clone Anyone on this list > know > > this car? > > > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 15:33:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0C325846C3 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:33:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D173C2580351 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:33:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from user1PC ([74.100.56.22]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.34.0 64bit (built Oct 14 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NJO00MCWK81C6M0@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:38:28 -0600 (CST) a=sPGWG2irV9Ea8g435QQD0A==:117 a=6jom2F-P7HcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=tPOffAeti-ivQ1IRKWEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=yMSCvweUmGkA:10 a=xjsNikG68X0A:10 To: References: <4648D934BF674B57A3D44F96EE788DFE@DELL> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:38:22 -0800 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Check this car out: is it for real? From: Tom Witt via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net And..., closer to Jay and I is this other Craigslist..., "Tiger." http://ventura.craigslist.org/pts/4869519147.html -----Original Message----- From: Jay Laifman via Tigers Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 2:09 PM To: michael king Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Check this car out: is it for real? I don't know. With all those extra switches, gauges, stickers and badges, perhaps it's worth less than it otherwise would be. ;-) On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:57 PM, michael king via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Scam as.... Second run in a week > On 13 Feb 2015 05:41, "Dave via Tigers" wrote: > > > http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/4887572434.html > > > > If so, who will get there first! 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From: Randall Antosiak via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net First of all, its an Alger. Once you get some more pics, the dead give away is the battery under the rear seat, and the bulkhead mounted rear tire. Second, it is not for real. This scammer has been advertising the car in Boston, Orlando, etc. When you contact the owner, you will find that they claim to be a Susan Reynolds, age 65, of Chapin SC. Email contact only, no phone calls. If you express interest in the car, then they will claim that you cannot inspect ahead time. They will ship the car to you, and you can return it if you con't like it. You pay via Google wallet, whatever that is. - Randy On Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:41 PM, Dave via Tigers wrote: http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/4887572434.html If so, who will get there first! Or is it a clone Anyone on this list know this car? Dave _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/randya@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 16:25:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7347A258023F for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:25:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0128.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.128]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 661022580054 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:24:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from BY2PR04MB030.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.242.34.15) by BY2PR04MB109.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.242.37.142) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.87.18; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 23:29:23 +0000 Received: from CO2PR04CA047.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.240.175) by BY2PR04MB030.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.242.34.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.87.18; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 23:29:22 +0000 Received: from BY2FFO11FD001.protection.gbl (2a01:111:f400:7c0c::122) by CO2PR04CA047.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:1428::47) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.87.18 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 23:29:21 +0000 Received: from garmin.com (204.77.163.247) by BY2FFO11FD001.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.1.14.123) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.87.10 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 23:29:20 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT01.ad.garmin.com (10.5.143.141) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.222) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.224.2; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:29:31 -0600 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB06.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.5.82]) by OLAWPA-EXHT01.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.143.141]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:29:19 -0600 To: Sandy , "owain.lloyd@gmail.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] wheel offset Thread-Index: AQHQRwAZ9gX3g8zbek+eBjVA23Tfwpzt5u6A//+xvoA= Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 23:29:18 +0000 References: <54DD1683.8000106@pacbell.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.1.140326 x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] Content-ID: Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of garmin.com designates 204.77.163.247 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=204.77.163.247; helo=garmin.com; Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 204.77.163.247) not signed) header.d=none; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(438002)(377424004)(24454002)(36304003)(377454003)(479174004)(51704005)(46102003)(40036004)(62966003)(77156002)(92566002)(106116001)(16796002)(36756003)(102836002)(2950100001)(2501002)(2900100001)(15975445007)(1720100001)(19580395003)(77096005)(83506001)(106466001)(19580405001)(47776003)(2201001)(2656002)(76176999)(54356999)(50986999)(23756003)(87936001)(6806004)(50466002)(107886001)(86362001)(7059030); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR04MB030; H:garmin.com; FPR:; SPF:Pass; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; SRVR:BY2PR04MB030; Subject: Re: [Tigers] wheel offset From: "Smit, Theo via Tigers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It is going to depend somewhat on the diameter, and whether or not you have Minx spindles in front. If have standard Alpine/Tiger spindles then you need to reduce the offset for the upper control arm and balljoint to clear the rim and tire. I have the 2005 Mustang 16x7 wheels on my car (I want to say 45mm offset but I may be wrong), Minx spindles, Wilwood brake hats, but no spacers in front. With Alpine/Tiger spindles I had to have 7/16 inch spacers in order for the balljoint and tire/rim to not want to be in the same place. In the back I have about 1/2 inch worth of spacers, IIRC. I can handle more there, if I want to push the wheels/tires closer to the body - but I will probably get 225 tires for the rear next time around. Cheers, Theo On 2015-02-12, 2:09 PM, "Sandy via Tigers" wrote: >Owain - From some recent facebook discussion this is what I got from one >member - > >-->Wheels 16x7s. 28mm offset front, 15mm offset rear<-- > >Here are some links to help convert and fiddle with backspace and offset - > >Simple converters from offset to backspace and visa versa... > >http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/Backspace-Offset-Calculator.html >http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/Offset-to-Backspace.html > >This one will let you know if a change in offset and width will affect >the wheel >http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/WheelOffsetCalc.html > >HTH > >Sandy >On 2/12/2015 12:10 PM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Can anyone advise an approximately correct offset for 7" wheels with 205 >> tires? >> >> I admit I'm being lazy and trying to order without measuring. >> >> Thanks. >> Owain. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz@pacbell.net >_______________________________________________ > >tigers@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@garmin.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. 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Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 12 18:15:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2272B25803DC for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:15:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8113A2580109 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:15:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta002.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t1D1GWEv017653 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:19:57 -0800 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a209) id sj1-dm103.54d12225.4dd96 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:19:56 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.32]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 01:19:55 -0000 To: Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 20:19:51 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBHKypxLnvGCtUOQ5Ws8Lb/HiU5Ag== engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-12_07:2015-02-12,2015-02-12,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502130011 Subject: [Tigers] Jeff J. Antosiak From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jeff Looking to contact Jeff J. Antosiak ; are you still on the list? Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 13 08:59:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128112584770 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:59:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.bemta5.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta5.messagelabs.com [195.245.231.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 633A6258011C for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:59:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from [85.158.139.51] by server-3.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id A5/4E-02994-0702ED45; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:04:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 32117 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2015 16:04:00 -0000 Received: from mail1006.akzonobel.com (HELO ADCN114.d30.intra) (144.95.67.38) by server-6.tower-180.messagelabs.com with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Feb 2015 16:04:00 -0000 Received: from ADCN139.d30.intra ([10.13.33.22]) by adcn114.d30.intra ([10.13.33.31]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:03:59 +0100 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Looking for a Tiger Thread-Index: AdBHpmodxmCk4OTORkusOnMfjbmruA== Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:03:59 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.13.33.220] Subject: [Tigers] Looking for a Tiger From: "Ronak, T.P. \(Timothy\) via Tigers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Listers I am hoping to find a Tiger again ... but not interested in a $50,000 trailer queen If one shows up sub $20,000 I would love a crack at another one. I saw the Craigs list one in Bloomington but my suspicion is that it will be gone already Tim Ronak Senior Services Consultant Services Group AkzoNobel Automotive and Aerospace Coatings NA Cell (949) 289-3357 Mailing Address 23961 Via El Rocio Mission Viejo, CA 92691 www.akzonobel.com "If a man dwells on the past, then he robs the present. But if a man ignores the past, he may rob the future. The seeds of our destiny are nurtured by the roots of our past." Master Po - TV's Kung Fu [image001] Follow AkzoNobel online at www.akzonobel.com/followus ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ The information contained in this message, including any attachments, may be privileged and confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual and/or entity identified in the address of this message. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete and destroy this message, including any back-up copies. 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Jeff Antosiak Tiger Mk1A Alpine SV (2) Funwagon Motorhome _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 13 13:01:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6DC25845B6 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:01:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE5CC2580549 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:00:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.143]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 371B6700362C9; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:05:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mla08d.mail.aol.com (core-mla08.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.8]) by mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id F102F38000083; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:05:30 -0500 (EST) Full-name: CoolVT Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 15:05:30 -0500 To: Timothy.Ronak@akzonobel.com, tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1423857931; bh=QCEKo5+Cz+0CQB9EJcYGaEiZ0UZs8vobVFWOIa8a8bw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R8cUzULmayOz/UxInmPv7sQQS39w0O8DFC/eo8PzuXvF4+jrBwiPmFn2HAlPmqs34 P8RpkVlDe4J1OL8w5lUvt9Mf4Eo6sZ9MfFGeGXpP3tSHfVJ0rGg8Pj822kEIwdkZRP 8RI1BXu9lq1B1TFaJROst1M1X90mLMKXZ32fxMCE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe8f54de590a755c Subject: Re: [Tigers] Looking for a Tiger From: CoolVT--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tim, hope you can latch onto something. We need you active again. Mark L In a message dated 2/13/2015 2:42:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tigers@autox.team.net writes: Listers I am hoping to find a Tiger again ... but not interested in a $50,000 trailer queen If one shows up sub $20,000 I would love a crack at another one. I saw the Craigs list one in Bloomington but my suspicion is that it will be gone already Tim Ronak Senior Services Consultant Services Group AkzoNobel Automotive and Aerospace Coatings NA Cell (949) 289-3357 Mailing Address 23961 Via El Rocio Mission Viejo, CA 92691 www.akzonobel.com "If a man dwells on the past, then he robs the present. But if a man ignores the past, he may rob the future. The seeds of our destiny are nurtured by the roots of our past." Master Po - TV's Kung Fu [image001] Follow AkzoNobel online at www.akzonobel.com/followus ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------ The information contained in this message, including any attachments, may be privileged and confidential and is intended only for the use of the individual and/or entity identified in the address of this message. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete and destroy this message, including any back-up copies. 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From: Jeffery Randall via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I corresponded with this person claiming to be the wife of the dead owner, they are trying to get someone to pay for the car through Google Wallet claiming you have 3 days to examine the car. How do you get this imposter sent to jail without losing your money first. By the way the car does look suspicious, low # 1A with square trunk, exhaust cut outs fudged and the battery thing. Jeff On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Randall Antosiak via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > First of all, its an Alger. Once you get some more pics, the dead give > away is the battery under the rear seat, and the bulkhead mounted rear tire. > > Second, it is not for real. This scammer has been advertising the car in > Boston, Orlando, etc. When you contact the owner, you will find that they > claim to be a Susan Reynolds, age 65, of Chapin SC. Email contact only, > no phone calls. If you express interest in the car, then they will claim > that you cannot inspect ahead time. They will ship the car to you, and you > can return it if you con't like it. You pay via Google wallet, whatever > that is. > > - Randy > > > On Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:41 PM, Dave via Tigers < > tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/4887572434.html > > If so, who will get there first! Or is it a clone Anyone on this list know > this car? > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/randya@pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 13 18:15:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274392584A4D for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:15:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f43.google.com (mail-qg0-f43.google.com [209.85.192.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADDD258466F for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:15:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id i50so16073107qgf.2 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:19:42 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=S6EY7QdLj079Ymp0L9kUw4JoIr6Ntk4ves/OhrgN6x4=; b=N/EYGnySvaCXBBMJnbSzxkGGl6A9/s5yjQY34/DtzOQS+yBVr+0HGLzIGsih06/3AW YyRSTQ3LmFV3lZg98xVf8J2HygnYHMHUZcoTWj26cQmRvBhbJn/5ZTv92fYIDCFyAQ0K 41ojeBcl8ikYwJQoLZ/wL1l5j62I9+fIy6bd7sBU2BH+87IqvhEV6moZMOqOL5sh6Ql+ A689g4dvvlyClkxobjRlWzcycvTJYYC8Da1GOHygrSrEM/t6lyyERA6OwXZinfpqW0Pl kxJb83KZadmR966TT4AhIx+Fy6rZugTpTZ/7PDuRbOGX0DejIoPJPPqACXQwHOEdryfg Ly2g== f130mr1102922qhc.49.1423876782078; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:19:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.10.131 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:19:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 20:19:42 -0500 To: LIST TIGER Subject: [Tigers] Windshield Glass From: "Robert D. Hogan via Tigers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I could be mistaken but I noticed the windshield glass on a 1962 Renault Caravelle that was shown in the February 12 Bring a Trailer Daily Mail seems to be identical to the Tiger's windshield. The rake angle and corner radii in particular look the same. Does anyone know if Rootes used a windshield that was in common with other vehicles' windshields? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 13 18:35:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468C72584B11 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:35:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from oms-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (oms-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [64.12.237.12]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE62258056E for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:35:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by oms-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (AOL Outbound OMS Interface) with ESMTPS id B6C25380006A2 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 20:40:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mtaout-aag01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aag01.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.77]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AA00170000088; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 20:40:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.0.0.9] (pool-96-245-238-14.phlapa.east.verizon.net [96.245.238.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aag01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id F25973800008E; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 20:40:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 20:40:27 -0500 To: Jeffery Randall , Randall Antosiak x-aol-global-disposition: S s=20140625; t=1423878030; bh=ab0mhu1rsO196VFKuk4jd92hWKato+9Ol5eGOKyD6/c=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LVDqZfSrXJzpOG4JnaAaWluvTXZGoPZ6ktAklIWuqnjxNta8bwPpinzYvQwsBLNRK MM1QY6ZoDsvy9b2/Plbns4VrgyKPevKYDnGZ0urOS6Hw6i79nMNvhq1ZQOPjelKDoB MN44ZoS8R63YeEZ66apgpKqGZKOysSuvEUIUu7MU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7e4d54dea78d5f1d Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Check this car out: is it for real? From: FRED BAUM via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net A MKIA with short shifter? I don't think so. Fred Baum MKI with short shifter On February 13, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Jeffery Randall via Tigers wrote: I corresponded with this person claiming to be the wife of the dead owner, they are trying to get someone to pay for the car through Google Wallet claiming you have 3 days to examine the car. How do you get this imposter sent to jail without losing your money first. By the way the car does look suspicious, low # 1A with square trunk, exhaust cut outs fudged and the battery thing. Jeff On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Randall Antosiak via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > First of all, its an Alger. Once you get some more pics, the dead give > away is the battery under the rear seat, and the bulkhead mounted rear tire. > > Second, it is not for real. This scammer has been advertising the car in > Boston, Orlando, etc. When you contact the owner, you will find that they > claim to be a Susan Reynolds, age 65, of Chapin SC. Email contact only, > no phone calls. If you express interest in the car, then they will claim > that you cannot inspect ahead time. They will ship the car to you, and you > can return it if you con't like it. You pay via Google wallet, whatever > that is. > > - Randy > > > On Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:41 PM, Dave via Tigers < > tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/4887572434.html > > If so, who will get there first! Or is it a clone Anyone on this list know > this car? > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/randya@pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/fhsloth13@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 13 19:28:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791E82580890 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:28:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E9925805EB for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:28:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from user1PC ([74.100.56.22]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NJQ00H44PR3SS90@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 13 Feb 2015 20:33:06 -0600 (CST) a=sPGWG2irV9Ea8g435QQD0A==:117 a=6jom2F-P7HcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=y_i97Q7G9Sw4y37YagIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 To: References: Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:32:59 -0800 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Windshield Glass From: Tom Witt via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If they are the same then it is a bonanza to the Caravelle folks. The Alpine/Tiger windshield I found for $139. The Caravelle..., $745 plus $80 shipping from a vendor named "Mr. Fiat." So, that would be no advantage to the Alpine/Tiger folks. But, yes, they do look similar. The glass matching can be tricky though. I have a '64 Studebaker Daytona. The difference between the sedan and the convertible/wagon models is a barely noticeable 1/2" in the far upper corners. So, you can be that..., close and still not. The Studebaker windshield is almost impossible to find and I eventually settled on the convertible/wagon glass with the corners cut back. The guy used an angle grinder and then I smoothed the edges with a Dremel and a v-e-r-y light touch. -----Original Message----- From: Robert D. Hogan via Tigers Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 5:19 PM To: LIST TIGER Subject: [Tigers] Windshield Glass I could be mistaken but I noticed the windshield glass on a 1962 Renault Caravelle that was shown in the February 12 Bring a Trailer Daily Mail seems to be identical to the Tiger's windshield. The rake angle and corner radii in particular look the same. Does anyone know if Rootes used a windshield that was in common with other vehicles' windshields? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@verizon.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3495 / Virus Database: 4257/9107 - Release Date: 02/13/15 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 14 09:01:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C31E25846A9 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 09:01:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com (mail-qa0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93B62580882 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 09:00:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id dc16so11169848qab.7 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 08:05:34 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=H9IYT6w0BCVfzI3GDIKU3v6LB+M882TBUxeMQk6RngM=; b=eyPRDyPFel1Q1verPlApOh+KmacGPepxqMyPDBd+DgO+YXACmFrJdsMRmLgzo5W12W JoAtrvCCVocquVqcFI6uG0uEEdSWOS5HUyHGqStCPX7QTQwUPXm/dOQldcpnBLN52oM7 2osO/h0xk4xiXHfFXjdKqmBHotWwTezjpbiPCTehLrP+Y7K1Q3wWoGziX6+r09xY2PST 4VDTB+5KlVqUhH4bPU+TorsgBrK0pRLX6KyrO49eDQAxepDlIcObiA84sa/nK8VIKFqD 6ff2+1cXUBzwVcfYB/L01apnRqDm5d6ESb8FG1PeDdtGffCPn/p2/5+6uEx1xi898LQk ECpw== 130mr8283844qhq.55.1423929934621; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 08:05:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.10.131 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 08:05:34 -0800 (PST) References: <6067A3047F274B92A0270F41E845CBDC@user1PC> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 11:05:34 -0500 To: Tom Witt Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Windshield Glass From: "Robert D. Hogan via Tigers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Implied but not stated was the concern that the supply of Tiger windshields may be small and as the years progress the knowledge of what cars may have similar enough geometry for adaptation could become important. I don't know enough about the windshield glass manufacturing capabilities to know if Tiger windshields can be reproduced without some major tooling investment. Perhaps, its just one of those Tiger owner phobias of "OMG, there are no more of those parts available." Pricing, but not functional importance, could become as secondary as the current Tiger II wheel opening trim is now. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: > If they are the same then it is a bonanza to the Caravelle folks. The > Alpine/Tiger windshield I found for $139. The Caravelle..., $745 plus $80 > shipping from a vendor named "Mr. Fiat." So, that would be no advantage to > the Alpine/Tiger folks. > > But, yes, they do look similar. The glass matching can be tricky though. I > have a '64 Studebaker Daytona. The difference between the sedan and the > convertible/wagon models is a barely noticeable 1/2" in the far upper > corners. So, you can be that..., close and still not. The Studebaker > windshield is almost impossible to find and I eventually settled on the > convertible/wagon glass with the corners cut back. The guy used an angle > grinder and then I smoothed the edges with a Dremel and a v-e-r-y light > touch. > > -----Original Message----- From: Robert D. Hogan via Tigers > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 5:19 PM > To: LIST TIGER > Subject: [Tigers] Windshield Glass > > > I could be mistaken but I noticed the windshield glass on a 1962 Renault > Caravelle that was shown in the February 12 Bring a Trailer Daily Mail > seems to be identical to the Tiger's windshield. The rake angle and corner > radii in particular look the same. Does anyone know if Rootes used a > windshield that was in common with other vehicles' windshields? > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@ > verizon.net > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3495 / Virus Database: 4257/9107 - Release Date: 02/13/15 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/robertdhogan@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 14 17:11:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F26625844F2 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:11:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C9425803D0 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:11:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from user1PC ([74.100.56.22]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NJS00HXWE2SZ770@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 18:16:07 -0600 (CST) a=sPGWG2irV9Ea8g435QQD0A==:117 a=6jom2F-P7HcA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=hYvvuuWbAAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=8CZBNK6G12q-yDOgxHUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4Q4a8iw36Q5yESuuoEgA:9 a=6I2h4w8N5QtQcxni:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 To: References: <6067A3047F274B92A0270F41E845CBDC@user1PC> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:16:00 -0800 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Windshield Glass From: Tom Witt via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I hear you on those concerns. Maybe someone on the list has knowledge of the long term availability. After my Studebaker ordeal (year and a half looking, having to settle for scratched/bull's eyed glass that was 400 miles away) I buy windshields for my older cars when I can get them (Pick A Part 50% off sales they are $20 out the door). Last night I caught some U-Tube videos on British cars. This one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uz40aYDzZo regarded Hillmanbs and Sunbeambs. At about the 6:35 mark it is commented that the guy has about 15 spare windscreens..., never had one break and is considering a bclear-outb someday. LOL I guess hebs a bPrepperb of the vehicular kind. From: Robert D. Hogan Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 8:05 AM To: Tom Witt Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Windshield Glass Implied but not stated was the concern that the supply of Tiger windshields may be small and as the years progress the knowledge of what cars may have similar enough geometry for adaptation could become important. I don't know enough about the windshield glass manufacturing capabilities to know if Tiger windshields can be reproduced without some major tooling investment. Perhaps, its just one of those Tiger owner phobias of "OMG, there are no more of those parts available." Pricing, but not functional importance, could become as secondary as the current Tiger II wheel opening trim is now. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: If they are the same then it is a bonanza to the Caravelle folks. The Alpine/Tiger windshield I found for $139. The Caravelle..., $745 plus $80 shipping from a vendor named "Mr. Fiat." So, that would be no advantage to the Alpine/Tiger folks. But, yes, they do look similar. The glass matching can be tricky though. I have a '64 Studebaker Daytona. The difference between the sedan and the convertible/wagon models is a barely noticeable 1/2" in the far upper corners. So, you can be that..., close and still not. The Studebaker windshield is almost impossible to find and I eventually settled on the convertible/wagon glass with the corners cut back. The guy used an angle grinder and then I smoothed the edges with a Dremel and a v-e-r-y light touch. -----Original Message----- From: Robert D. Hogan via Tigers Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 5:19 PM To: LIST TIGER Subject: [Tigers] Windshield Glass I could be mistaken but I noticed the windshield glass on a 1962 Renault Caravelle that was shown in the February 12 Bring a Trailer Daily Mail seems to be identical to the Tiger's windshield. The rake angle and corner radii in particular look the same. Does anyone know if Rootes used a windshield that was in common with other vehicles' windshields? _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 14 17:17:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9409325846E5 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:17:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f181.google.com (mail-ie0-f181.google.com [209.85.223.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F4525844CB for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:16:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by iecrp18 with SMTP id rp18so11837778iec.1 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:21:39 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=K3kcSX4quw/YVIr5oBdKBkmCrVnimfA9LYORNl/aYhg=; b=mBO62+cFVh1FtkQq9LtIE3WaWG31oxOaEjt7Xr7F+pkybwPtmGb2ll+uG8l7RyWr7K TGCtVyjgUDnmSuljwWHnTjWCfi0cMCKhp8kcWmLiTl99gnCGrndyHQcb1B9IdWZfzY6P 5T7Efzzucn9/FBtvvvy2tuRJdmAuUBGmrA+Qcgz0kTDMPmbaIQwOb3pW4XJHznLxdm4J Zuw40l2Dqoxv9auvgD0BTXsNn5ShbfSfEuSLzC/OUG9gWI03HbVw5KiVo8CIwj5QtZx9 3joz4gYV7XIxO/xomdOpOnuqJ2x8TuHFonr8gpPc1TFo04ZSb5aDbYFmE+f3AbcDBtkA ltUg== j14mr22778487icb.43.1423959699571; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:21:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.26.199 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:21:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.26.199 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:21:39 -0800 (PST) References: <6067A3047F274B92A0270F41E845CBDC@user1PC> <4168C0600A8E4D3D85F6A7B9345DA858@user1PC> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:21:39 +1100 To: Thomas Witt Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Windshield Glass From: michael king via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net While I'm normally on the buy when available side I only keep 1 spare screen. The alpine and tiger screens are relatively cheap and not that hard to manufacture. Triple X in UK still makes them (though a few years ago there was a bad batch where they set them down to early while hot and they flattened out to much to fit) but they keep stock... In Australian we have 2 companies that make both early and late style alpine screens and will do them in runs as low as 5 for a reasonable price. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 12:12:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C3925848C6 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 12:12:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yk0-f173.google.com (mail-yk0-f173.google.com [209.85.160.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8C825802EB for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 12:12:26 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-yk0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 19so11681777ykq.4 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:17:07 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=223cElTU3+HeMJ1NCrJj+bWvSxrPZOTB3ADQzDPd4tQ=; b=NI9S8QoDSb9uKp404/hhkuzksUhHpcRk/j/iKiFhawUUz/5s7d/z3mzh6UuKTpChbq KjnE1APF+hLoNWDF4ljsFpc4o+pwcyfRNnyVrUtoAntyUpo7l7Kx2iLo40QMLNVVV/AA aHo59hyWc2kKXt20Et9iJEmD3lsxVOMIdITweV8HBpjiTSLX0zTHhJs9TNZjtd5IvEiL 3BA5f1NH26hsoWEBnLqJ1LiOSkas88gOjqRRyCUacj99c8/TNKV/1DgK6ulSHZSVqC1y 7kLkok5W7TSBtsTojqC0i9DWOgCuBwLYgoW/r4oSp3RY6iMAMU2ynKaxLYK483WJSV4S gwyw== o84mr1434591ykb.41.1424027827501; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:17:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.2.221] ([71.16.83.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v12sm9868177yhn.23.2015.02.15.11.17.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:17:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:17:01 -0500 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] windshields From: "Elams.org via Tigers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I bought mine from Rick @ SS. But I did cheat and have an upholstery shop install it. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 12:37:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5984525804B7 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 12:37:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f182.google.com (mail-pd0-f182.google.com [209.85.192.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53A42580242 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 12:37:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by pdjg10 with SMTP id g10so30662937pdj.1 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:42:01 -0800 (PST) h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; bh=DwE6q3Bw75pGnNV6zYVeVucCmsULYdI7EGX+8eWlWHU=; b=UXyyZQFme2O3QGQ34aA81yInBoEWRRxFCYH09ys/AqXbDIonVC5CP0oYlatvlL8QAu yhzWWYRX3snyfIvsBM7WutwCG1yyDwTrXpZLjb85BV5B5Xafe9Zww2gjdCjckbi2+xKD fXn5arS4L2O9gIusA7k/6Xy9/byjfQY5MitHWzLK0bjgpZTuyGLkA78NSt+oCnGZh2jO GMS9h96cXWvrdYULJzmBpJFupq827NRpAzh6h8sXJAGCNjmAydWmTS/S80LHP2BvsAPY 2g0kxgGAjPeMx/W4b7l9M0VoSIiRByCTrQX9BEw6xkvKzOt50ZBOZWNkaqeS1Aq1QpIq 5j/Q== ig5mr33513135pad.17.1424029321502; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (cpe-76-167-32-241.socal.res.rr.com. [76.167.32.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mv6sm8664825pdb.29.2015.02.15.11.42.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:42:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 11:41:57 -0800 To: Tiger Autox Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? From: Jay Laifman via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I started the Tiger yesterday for the first time in admittedly a bit too long - couple months. It started right up. But then unless I was pumping on the pedal, it would die. So gas was getting there and the accelerator pump was working. I tried a number of times. Each time, it snap to a start, but same problem. I then took the top off the air cleaner and started it again. This time, perfect. Purred like a kitten. So I put the cover back on. When I tightened it down, pow, stopped running again. I found that if I lightly put on the nut, it would run fine. If I tightened it firmly down (and this is only with my fingers), it would die. This makes no sense to me! It is a K&N filter that I cleaned within the year. So it has very few miles or dirt on it. Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 13:20:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220572580B9F for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:20:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail01.alloftheweb.net (alloftheweb.net [68.70.191.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C131C25800BE for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:20:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail01.alloftheweb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE85C783F for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:24:40 -0500 (EST) content-language:x-mailer:content-type:content-type:mime-version 1424031879; x=1426623880; bh=3uKAcRGJqI0oP/gEnRKYeglHcriI0QdcMGr 49ReX9b8=; b=ndFH1UmKrsp3QRUJtSlvplnJbCjMJJG4xo6GDvRWSn0XkC4lKuG 0G4yrmEneDlRDALo5EkEsY45h8dE8UPE93izYggc2doACUq/Tq+NpYwTZ4BvyT2Q kFtC30ArvcWjX6yYjlOT/d5yuSOMuKN0JAJhmuqGhAxCprTrwlcanQP0q16V7lmA eTYgPWij6D6qWBVzo6M9hNaC3FXJcHt+uFVSSDVltoWuhPTENGi6+Ef0iGqRo4Yr pCZhCA15gXA4ZSr6e2QarWUObkRJsn1ORj7ciyIwwMFUWpQO/cqeeTxEHQ3bAJyj HpjbbTa19z/i9A5Bzoi0GWyO3flmuPZSXkg== mail01.alloftheweb.net Received: from mail01.alloftheweb.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail01.alloftheweb.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q25u44_Ql4VT for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from LonWaltersPC (unknown [24.121.125.36]) by mail01.alloftheweb.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B141C7819 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:24:39 -0500 (EST) To: Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:24:38 -0700 Thread-Index: AdBJWR7xoS60JsccQ6uiX8aSytru+Q== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Windshields . . . From: Lon Walters via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tiger long gone, but still a lurker on the site. Always good info. Windshields: Had a horrid time finding a front one for an Italian car I was attempting to restore. Cheapest was almost $1900 plus shipping, then told me the rear was unobtainium at any price. The car is long gone, but have always been puzzled by the fact that many say it can't be done or they are not available. I didn't start the search to manufacture one before the car went, but figured street rodders have custom windshields installed all the time as they slice and dice cars. I'm at a loss why this is such a big deal for other cars. I recall there was a firm in Mexico that would make a legal seamless windshield for my '37 Buick street rod for $400. That was ten years ago. Surely the technology has come a long way since then. Jus' sayin' Lon ---- _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 13:26:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854842584561 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:26:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9D025801A8 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:25:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.104]) by resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id skW61p0042Fh1PH01kWWzg; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:30:30 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-601v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.50.125]) by resomta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id skWW1p00B2i4P9N01kWWNG; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:30:30 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:30:29 +0000 (UTC) To: Jay Laifman References: <906E65CA-33C6-4153-9AB6-780C2FACE3FD@gmail.com> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: Air cleaner choking? Thread-Index: aA2s2htSlUWmvdZjvAaplohTAGfo/w== s=q20140121; t=1424032230; bh=LnbjZg6BKpw9Fi3lvrs/IHeSfHBbsZHpVGmZe+z8N64=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=CTl9qpQ4TqlkSmg1ufexOCsbmqjsf7rG+llwVrXONxUj6c5BEdQ5j8ry5PcAowSOf CPnYWXcaEvR7MsOJzsIZbar9+Oq7RbbFMozqUQ5Be/aX4Vevokj40WPeM5yg/TVOZZ W9uG7vlHqd2BrgeU+bWY01ibjo2xVScpRXYuLh2RPxkg8QoeycqPZrXd3KisfCZIsM TKfFYw9UoMzRw8gQgD1leJYhoY5YugNiCWcfhr9Wum8bAj7KRv0cXd+RP3XKZ9iJEF HNo6nglB2r3S+0cTZwbrebn038NmExuRMXF/lsSLQz4h8e3EzZhmO0JwUYZB2G7pwr cHDAbjZZ05z4g== Cc: Tiger Autox Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? From: genepadgett--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW, I have noticed that with the thin K&N element, the choke flap has been rubbing against the air cleaner lid a bit.B B Maybe yours is hanging up on the top of the air cleaner housing when the housing is tightened down, messing up the air flow and A/F ratio.B B Look for some rub marks on the inside of the air cleaner top. Just an idea.B B Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Laifman via Tigers" To: "Tiger Autox" Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 1:41:57 PM Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? I started the Tiger yesterday for the first time in admittedly a bit too long - couple months. B It started right up. B But then unless I was pumping on the pedal, it would die. B So gas was getting there and the accelerator pump was working. B I tried a number of times. B Each time, it snap to a start, but same problem. B I then took the top off the air cleaner and started it again. B This time, perfect. Purred like a kitten. B So I put the cover back on. B When I tightened it down, pow, stopped running again. B I found that if I lightly put on the nut, it would run fine. B If I tightened it firmly down (and this is only with my fingers), it would die. This makes no sense to me! It is a K&N filter that I cleaned within the year. B So it has very few miles or dirt on it. Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 13:50:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A663525805D3 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:50:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A7412580217 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:49:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-aaa02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaa02.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.228]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 026FB704995C9; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:54:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mla05g.mail.aol.com (core-mla05.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.5]) by mtaomg-aaa02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BAE5438000081; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:54:36 -0500 (EST) Full-name: CoolVT Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:54:36 -0500 To: jay.laifman@gmail.com, tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1424033676; bh=6RQmaOcM22QJk6cLTPKirIJq10O9OiABPP4gUjHTCv0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zZ0/+YPSvEH14m5C85emhlyafNZNwsvXzKTkLwONoPB4pvF94EcdRrBGfZsIwDyJk 03bQmjwWBppSL8Gr2QA6QS/PsyfcJU4p5hswELcZkBbOsRU/1PsEn3oP6pCtXDjx/c I04une+pLgVeHwurwbScLyLi6iUtBjK/in/8wdZQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b01e454e1078c333e Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? From: CoolVT--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If you have done nothing to the car since the last time you started it then I think you should look for issues that can arise from storage. Most mechanical things probably haven't changed. Bad gas or plugged carb passages from bad gas? In a message dated 2/15/2015 2:42:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tigers@autox.team.net writes: I started the Tiger yesterday for the first time in admittedly a bit too long - couple months. It started right up. But then unless I was pumping on the pedal, it would die. So gas was getting there and the accelerator pump was working. I tried a number of times. Each time, it snap to a start, but same problem. I then took the top off the air cleaner and started it again. This time, perfect. Purred like a kitten. So I put the cover back on. When I tightened it down, pow, stopped running again. I found that if I lightly put on the nut, it would run fine. If I tightened it firmly down (and this is only with my fingers), it would die. This makes no sense to me! It is a K&N filter that I cleaned within the year. So it has very few miles or dirt on it. Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 13:56:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F31258059C for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:56:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C004E25803FC for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:56:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-16v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.112]) by resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id sl0T1p0052S2Q5R01l0oel; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 21:00:48 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-263v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.42]) by resomta-ch2-16v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id sl0o1p00Q0udGuy01l0o4o; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 21:00:48 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 21:00:48 +0000 (UTC) To: Tiger's List Thread-Topic: Tiger Brakes Thread-Index: ed0Tgm/nuW1MbZFa7CR1ZFIvukKwtA== s=q20140121; t=1424034048; bh=3qtJ65pCQfhOncz202jJmm2aObv1Kkm8McGsIHlNCTc=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Nd69DKGpc3QSwh9uFzzRY5jK3oDdzbheI7vydxgo+PThtOWGLct2vpUs+/TT15Spy ZCVk3IjRwTCw4P5PiivCcgwEtEgUIo53Ujep1bfob1gTQPQIT9dHK4KNZ633+Db3SA gOt8AjNnuL1Aqpl1HWn1eHdbj4wDwkyTszpoKV/daYrCV3edolmrGJbNYfYiSIf9cw dy2E60hi9Q0RmQ2kF6fIdzxM4kOP/SjX+7LT3vkqo0rbSF9xSz2KB9ETE+mlFnmy5h dkza5xyotKAVHN/z0vGGk2Ev1UfnhgC6z4WoaA4TUdIt7Hc5CTGVGl/wZLlXlU7dvS Z4vV8P+r8WvFg== Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Brakes From: tym2--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tigers, I have my Tiger stripped for a repaint. I'm thinking about upgrading the brakes at the same time. I don't drive on the track but I do drive the car aggressively at times. It stops better than my '62 Corvette, but not much. I've looked at the Wilwood front disc kit ($1279). I understand there are excellent upgrades that are a lot less money. Any assistance will be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Tym McDowell _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 14:05:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340292584889 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:05:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-37.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95123258463E for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:04:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t1FL58XI002235; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:09:11 -0800 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a209) id dm0219.54d12217.5418f; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:09:10 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.41]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 21:09:05 -0000 To: , Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 16:09:01 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBJY56PT9OwKO9OR3uKNOZduVJHew== engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-15_03:2015-02-13,2015-02-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502150228 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Brakes From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tym Try upgrading the front pads to Hawk High performance street pads HB 169.F560 or check on Dale's Restoration site to see what pads he offers. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tym2--- via Tigers Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:01 PM To: Tiger's List Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Brakes Tigers, I have my Tiger stripped for a repaint. I'm thinking about upgrading the brakes at the same time. I don't drive on the track but I do drive the car aggressively at times. It stops better than my '62 Corvette, but not much. I've looked at the Wilwood front disc kit ($1279). I understand there are excellent upgrades that are a lot less money. Any assistance will be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Tym McDowell _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 14:09:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AC02584942 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:09:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759A72580187 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:09:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t1FLApLi028199; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:14:27 -0800 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a209) id sj1-dm103.54d12225.6142f; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:14:25 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.41]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 21:14:20 -0000 To: "'Jay Laifman'" , Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 16:14:17 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBJV34UH/1PY9yHR3CeD4+5S/VTBwADGjCQ engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-15_03:2015-02-13,2015-02-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502150229 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jay I suggest you remove the filter then put the cover on to see if there is an interference issue. Tighten the nut down and see if the top cover is pressing on the choke plate. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifman via Tigers Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 2:42 PM To: Tiger Autox Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? I started the Tiger yesterday for the first time in admittedly a bit too long - couple months. It started right up. But then unless I was pumping on the pedal, it would die. So gas was getting there and the accelerator pump was working. I tried a number of times. Each time, it snap to a start, but same problem. I then took the top off the air cleaner and started it again. This time, perfect. Purred like a kitten. So I put the cover back on. When I tightened it down, pow, stopped running again. I found that if I lightly put on the nut, it would run fine. If I tightened it firmly down (and this is only with my fingers), it would die. This makes no sense to me! It is a K&N filter that I cleaned within the year. So it has very few miles or dirt on it. Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 15:17:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2747F2580A99 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:17:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from filter02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADC9525805E8 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:17:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by filter02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C44393F7 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.roch.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.167]) by localhost (filter02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.227]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id RPLSbSroJfZw for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from UserPC (50-52-32-241.cral.id.frontiernet.net [50.52.32.241]) by relay04.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 27F0E17CDB for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:21:46 +0000 (UTC) To: "Tigers" References: <906E65CA-33C6-4153-9AB6-780C2FACE3FD@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:21:47 -0800 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? From: Bob Hokanson via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Check the clearance between the top of your air cleaner housing and the carburetor vent tube. Bob H -----Original Message----- From: Jay Laifman via Tigers Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:41 AM To: Tiger Autox Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? I started the Tiger yesterday for the first time in admittedly a bit too long - couple months. It started right up. But then unless I was pumping on the pedal, it would die. So gas was getting there and the accelerator pump was working. I tried a number of times. Each time, it snap to a start, but same problem. I then took the top off the air cleaner and started it again. This time, perfect. Purred like a kitten. So I put the cover back on. When I tightened it down, pow, stopped running again. I found that if I lightly put on the nut, it would run fine. If I tightened it firmly down (and this is only with my fingers), it would die. This makes no sense to me! It is a K&N filter that I cleaned within the year. So it has very few miles or dirt on it. Thoughts? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 15:43:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C3625808BB for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:43:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF8225805F9 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:43:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-18v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.114]) by resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id smnY1p0042Udklx01mnkQ8; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:47:44 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-601v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.50.125]) by resomta-ch2-18v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id smnk1p00M2i4P9N01mnkHz; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:47:44 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:47:44 +0000 (UTC) To: tym2@comcast.net References: <78063743.7808605.1424034048470.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: Tiger Brakes Thread-Index: ed0Tgm/nuW1MbZFa7CR1ZFIvukKwtFRh+coY s=q20140121; t=1424040464; bh=7lA9vTT+2nC62+lsYRlmn9O9E7U4hpFcRthqoSAgNRQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=sH9T+6WiWz57vIsVe+tVgzInU7Ycsn3GCzrlATffEgKZ3ZYrw8ODSExxZDYtCMdYA COGP1iP3I9mZJ//BpmGv5upRcmUCjdGvcC6SnXifQTh9dPl4D2noNIsuNAPp+5Bn4F xOXG/7UAIVr8qPL7BYCQEGH8qngDQ8eMU4Tvrsrxn2gMSjsWjHcIykI1HTjJF+CIFe BkcpNaPAz7figSMC8zVpT4VZvZVDLmjdB6bnlIogtrDw3RKvWUbzbbJAa1rdVZR1Pw 8AstJy2emgm08BBYoMwe2gpCyrpbrd3t9g0sauRY9N+P8zeEWJCEehcyvpCO8Wykk1 jqBLPGKSBb+sg== Cc: Tiger's List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Brakes From: genepadgett--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I second Ron's recommendation of the Hawk HP pads for the front, but be prepared for significant dusting. The tradeoff is well worth it in terms better brakes IMHO Also, remember the rear brakes are not self-adjusting. If you get more than 2 clicks on the hand brake when pulled while at rest, they need adjusting. Otherwise all of your braking is at the front, rather than 70%(?). I had Porterfield relign my rear brake shoes with their vintage racing shoe material. They have other choices available as well. The combination of an adjustment plus better linings seemed to add noticeably to the overall performance. At least be sure your adjustment is good so that whatever you have back there is contributing to the overall effort. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "tym2--- via Tigers" To: "Tiger's List" Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 3:00:48 PM Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Brakes Tigers, I have my Tiger stripped for a repaint. I'm thinking about upgrading the brakes at the same time. I don't drive on the track but I do drive the car aggressively at times. It stops better than my '62 Corvette, but not much. I've looked at the Wilwood front disc kit ($1279). I understand there are excellent upgrades that are a lot less money. Any assistance will be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Tym McDowell _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 17:07:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 688FF2584453 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:07:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f179.google.com (mail-ig0-f179.google.com [209.85.213.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D0D2580912 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:07:35 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f179.google.com with SMTP id l13so20693076iga.0 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 16:12:16 -0800 (PST) h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=3EHOhaXRyr2NS384W6fUBuUqZUCfPQR9vrTuTAF5IP4=; b=RPD2Aky60jw9NAtiS+ZW8Ali++tgh7uMBSzjdnlnseNmO6HPoHKlc3+nNbwSX5RMBM WtLIoJLjG2GTH4sjgutU4P9CTIkKumSRhN81zwP5LX2XpeeqDx1ZFQ8D5wexhdGQQBRt HjcyCD75ZXKzaDNmXDRm7Blqh868vndz0Reoaz+WO6GN4VsWQPopx/N4A/siuFExZgdo 5QSO52EnVLRydLaZyCe57HXHjNF0+ZjEMs9RjHojhLLwqQlPkMoCvpNrFa10kq5o3G56 dHjI5dlfEWM18kMXSNqAI9+Yq1vXUyHugKz36kRh87KVX5+575CwfiXBOL3zbppyoeU1 ZyZA== c12mr17345141igv.27.1424045536570; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 16:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d66-222-241-10.abhsia.telus.net. [66.222.241.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b137sm8610177ioe.1.2015.02.15.16.12.16 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Feb 2015 16:12:16 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:12:15 -0700 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" , "jay.laifman@gmail.com" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 45 From: Gary via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ditto what Gene says. Mine contacts the lid, thus preventing it from shutting on cold start. I loosen up the nut, then re-tighten after the valve shuts. Why don't I install nuts on the mount post to limit the downward travel of the lid you ask? I just don't have them in my parts bin and never think to hit the bolt supply house. Gary > From: genepadgett@comcast.net > > FWIW, I have noticed that with the thin K&N element, the choke flap has been > rubbing against the air cleaner lid a bit.B B Maybe yours is hanging up on > the top of the air cleaner housing when the housing is tightened down, messing > up the air flow and A/F ratio.B B Look for some rub marks on the inside of > the air cleaner top. > Just an idea.B B Gene _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 17:21:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FA52580995 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:21:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m4.mx.aol.com (omr-m4.mx.aol.com [64.12.226.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 392B025808BB for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:21:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mac02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mac02.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.208]) by omr-m4.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0B30F380000B9; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mla05g.mail.aol.com (core-mla05.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.5]) by mtaomg-mac02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8E83D38000081; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:25:51 -0500 (EST) Full-name: CoolVT Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:25:51 -0500 To: gpfore@gmail.com, tigers@autox.team.net, jay.laifman@gmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1424046352; bh=daJ2W0Oz3xYuDuZbJ8eQgGuACEuYNorBQ99MayLwe2o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LEyL8VRZtqrd9i6Ek4OTAS4yqQOOaxDUJa1OMNRBSpN7U4l+I9vBmZ1rjCld8UyQL tz1dHouxwI5r0l8BNQFX3ItGYnbw3zSX+hE6xP/tRpg79KPcmPm1AwaXdGPTzh7Nhd b8GHfUJXRDti9NSD7bZI345bwMGaBTtmipE6lkkw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1aded054e1390f5d8c Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 7, Issue 45 From: CoolVT--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net We were never told how the car ran before it was stored. If it ran fine before I'm not sure how air filter interference could develop from the car just sitting around. If the car had the same problem before storing.....well, ignore my comment:-) In a message dated 2/15/2015 7:12:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tigers@autox.team.net writes: Ditto what Gene says. Mine contacts the lid, thus preventing it from shutting on cold start. I loosen up the nut, then re-tighten after the valve shuts. Why don't I install nuts on the mount post to limit the downward travel of the lid you ask? I just don't have them in my parts bin and never think to hit the bolt supply house. Gary > From: genepadgett@comcast.net > > FWIW, I have noticed that with the thin K&N element, the choke flap has been > rubbing against the air cleaner lid a bit.B B Maybe yours is hanging up on > the top of the air cleaner housing when the housing is tightened down, messing > up the air flow and A/F ratio.B B Look for some rub marks on the inside of > the air cleaner top. > Just an idea.B B Gene _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 19:11:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45255258445D for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:11:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF512580302 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:11:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from user1PC ([74.100.56.22]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NJU004KZEAGEPC0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:15:55 -0600 (CST) a=sPGWG2irV9Ea8g435QQD0A==:117 a=6jom2F-P7HcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=vfQhr6h4tWsvoyW6mocA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 To: References: <000401d0495d$6ca03810$45e0a830$@net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:15:52 -0800 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Windshields . . . From: Tom Witt via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net From what I have heard it is not cheap to make windshields in short runs. And, I was told that they had to be certified (thus tested-broken) to meet specifications. Here is a You Tube video that shows the process. I find it odd that there is not some type of plastic that is suitable. After all don't motorcycles some airplanes and race cars have plastic windshields? They must have some wiping device to clear the screen in wet weather without scratching. For a "hobby" car that likely will see little to no driving in the rain it seems practical. A few weeks ago I saw a modified Citroen that had a plastic windshield that was driven into the car show. Today I wonder how many in law enforcement even know it is illegal. I recall seeing how they keep the cars in Cuba on the road in the documentary "Yank Tanks." It showed an iron plate shaped like a windshield. Whether they had the final glass tempered, dual pane with the internal plastic sheet I do not know. But apparently they put glass on the plate and heated it until it conformed to the needed shape. So, if we open trade with Cuba..., think of the possibilities. I've also seen on You Tube where routers with a diamond bit are used to cut down windshields. It was an all day affair. Flat glass doesn't seem to be a problem and with a car like the Tiger I'm sure someone is creative enough to form a decent flat paneled frame - if it even came to it. ---- Tiger long gone, but still a lurker on the site. Always good info. Windshields: Had a horrid time finding a front one for an Italian car I was attempting to restore. Cheapest was almost $1900 plus shipping, then told me the rear was unobtainium at any price. The car is long gone, but have always been puzzled by the fact that many say it can't be done or they are not available. I didn't start the search to manufacture one before the car went, but figured street rodders have custom windshields installed all the time as they slice and dice cars. I'm at a loss why this is such a big deal for other cars. I recall there was a firm in Mexico that would make a legal seamless windshield for my '37 Buick street rod for $400. That was ten years ago. Surely the technology has come a long way since then. Jus' sayin' Lon ---- _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@verizon.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3495 / Virus Database: 4257/9115 - Release Date: 02/14/15 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 16 01:44:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD272584647 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 01:44:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nschwmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com (nschwmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com [61.9.189.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0192525844B5 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 01:43:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from nschwcmgw05p ([61.9.190.165]) by nschwmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com with ESMTP id <20150216084834.VRHA11888.nschwmtas04p.mx.bigpond.com@nschwcmgw05p> for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 08:48:34 +0000 Received: from HOME ([58.175.134.200]) by nschwcmgw05p with BigPond Outbound id swoZ1p00h4KbKQi01woZNE; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 08:48:34 +0000 a=z/rZr55fOvO6aBYB+ORnZA==:17 a=Sv2sojjTAAAA:8 a=J1dc1xdXZW4ICKQ99iAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=sdbkOzc6ZO1kUpB7yocA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=z/rZr55fOvO6aBYB+ORnZA==:117 To: "Tiger's List" Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:48:33 +1100 Thread-Index: AdBJxViFJ7xCuI3OQg6LUhNGO5UH3w== Content-Language: en-au Subject: [Tigers] Burgundy Tiger From: Wally Menke via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone out there own a burgundy Tiger near Coalinga California that I spotted last Monday? On a visit from Australia last week heading east on the 198 near Coalinga I was pulled up having a break when to my surprise a burgundy Tiger came past heading west about 8 miles out of Coalinga. I didn't have my glasses on so couldn't make out the licence number. Nice car and nice colour that suits the car really well. At this point the 198 is a good Tigering road as well. I was coming from Monterey via the Carmel Valley on my way to Tulare in the central valley for the Ag Expo for work. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 16 14:03:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A215B25806FA for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:03:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE29258035C for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:03:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo305 ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150216210802.RMCI21735.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo305> for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:08:02 -0500 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by eastrmimpo305 with cox id t9821p00457wa9801982di; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:08:02 -0500 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=A8H0S-GQP0w0dujmYOwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=95aflqZ2pyI4WmwS74QA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net To: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:07:53 -0600 Thread-Index: AdBKK6RH9mjSbEuKT9OnjJwd6y4Q+Q== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Brake booster vacuum line From: Andy Walker via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, guys: As you all know, I'm in the middle of the restoration of my Mk1A and I've got a question (huh.imagine that.). I have a nice and fresh 7" booster thanks to Larry Atkisson (thanks, Larry!!!) and I'm installing it as we speak. I scrounged up a factory vacuum pipe that the 7" boosters used, but that only gets the vacuum tube and one-way valve approximately over the passenger-side valve cover. From there, you have to use rubber vacuum line like you would on the 5" boosters. My question is this.did the later Tigers with the 7" boosters use the same black vacuum line with the yellow stripe as did the earlier cars with the 5" booster? If not, was it just plain black vacuum line? Also, did the 7" booster cars use the same funky vacuum line hose clamps just like the 5" booster cars? If not, what type of clamp was original? Thanks so much in advance for anyone who can shed some light on this for me. Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 16 20:59:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361EC25848D4 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:59:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F8D258030C for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:59:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t1H40tZU016531; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:04:12 -0800 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189116) id sj1-dm103.54d12225.6dcab; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:04:03 -0800 To: "'Andy Walker'" , Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 23:03:53 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBKK6RH9mjSbEuKT9OnjJwd6y4Q+QAOXBEg engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-17_02:2015-02-14,2015-02-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502170038 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake booster vacuum line From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Andy Parts List information 9166032 Flexible pipe - Servo to manifold up to B382001282 9166034 Flexible pipe - Servo to manifold Mk I from B382001283 I don't know the exact difference between the hoses except the length. Mine was probably the 9166032 hose - black with 2 yellow strips Clamp P.43921 S III onward Thin band cotter pin style clamp - Moss #021-577 9782121 S II This is a double wire clamp Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Walker via Tigers Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 4:08 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Brake booster vacuum line Hey, guys: As you all know, I'm in the middle of the restoration of my Mk1A and I've got a question (huh.imagine that.). I have a nice and fresh 7" booster thanks to Larry Atkisson (thanks, Larry!!!) and I'm installing it as we speak. I scrounged up a factory vacuum pipe that the 7" boosters used, but that only gets the vacuum tube and one-way valve approximately over the passenger-side valve cover. From there, you have to use rubber vacuum line like you would on the 5" boosters. My question is this.did the later Tigers with the 7" boosters use the same black vacuum line with the yellow stripe as did the earlier cars with the 5" booster? If not, was it just plain black vacuum line? Also, did the 7" booster cars use the same funky vacuum line hose clamps just like the 5" booster cars? If not, what type of clamp was original? Thanks so much in advance for anyone who can shed some light on this for me. Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. 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You can read about the drive on the STOA website, sunbeam tiger.org Terry _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 14:20:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4912584866 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:20:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1B4A2584514 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:20:33 -0700 (MST) Received: by iebtr6 with SMTP id tr6so33510538ieb.7 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:25:16 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XkdMij6Zsb58QTVjo1ClV6q/QP2FuXc2m7ybUJZEyeU=; b=YZCyk7VbPPllxEy/NH6Ad/ZbyElOzqPFwHc6l9uJVviuPy7As0k+qjIo1ixKoUlAhA VbVe5ULgwOMtl7aLZnb4AnpAuO6tWO1DVlC4aZOUxruypMVyxhNJ6hi+Fo95HiSCMk7f q5Qv02QY0lf/whvW/Kk39984qYgNFwL2T1tWQWKtnND6MxLKIEJER9dv4u9kGVvMz2jb BuCTjgPAiGJINgGZT90Z414Lr6L4UgIYqEdbPpZUk1WluwYCXaDskSLsXnKyno28K/by /Ihnah6tRGWHmmHjMlkcyGD/uj5wZUohl3+PWHRtWWfQ5sMoRFGI1XqCEvIGrZ2i5DzM xU8A== h140mr38031642ioe.27.1424208316024; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.63.20 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:25:15 -0800 (PST) References: <906E65CA-33C6-4153-9AB6-780C2FACE3FD@gmail.com> <7B1D5FFB552C49E4890E43EB1476AC7E@UserPC> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:25:15 -0800 To: Bob Hokanson Cc: Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? From: Jay Laifman via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It looks like Bob had it. I could not see any sign of the flap/butterfly hitting the underside of the air cleaner top. But there were very obvious round circles where the vent tubes rose up. And those tubes seemed slightly higher than the flap. The car ran just fine after that - with the nut looser than it was. Now my only problem is that when I leave the nut loose enough to not push the top down on the tubes, it continues to get loose, until it will come off. So, I need to make some sort of tube that will go around the mounting bolt which will allow me to tighten down the nut firmly, but not to where the tubes or flap have issues. I don't know Holleys. I'm assuming those tubes are the intake/vents where the air goes into the idle/main needles to get the air mixture. If so, I wonder if it makes sense to cut them down a bit, just to make sure there is enough clearance. Ironically, on my Webers on my Porsche, there are aftermarket tubes that people ADD there, so that oil and other gunk doesn't flow down into the idle jets through the air passageway which is otherwise flat on the top of the carb. Jay On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Bob Hokanson via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Check the clearance between the top of your air cleaner housing and the > carburetor vent tube. > > Bob H > > -----Original Message----- From: Jay Laifman via Tigers > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:41 AM > To: Tiger Autox > Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? > > I started the Tiger yesterday for the first time in admittedly a bit too > long > - couple months. It started right up. But then unless I was pumping on > the > pedal, it would die. So gas was getting there and the accelerator pump was > working. I tried a number of times. Each time, it snap to a start, but > same > problem. I then took the top off the air cleaner and started it again. > This > time, perfect. Purred like a kitten. So I put the cover back on. When I > tightened it down, pow, stopped running again. I found that if I lightly > put > on the nut, it would run fine. If I tightened it firmly down (and this is > only with my fingers), it would die. > > This makes no sense to me! > > It is a K&N filter that I cleaned within the year. So it has very few > miles > or dirt on it. > > Thoughts? > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 14:25:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0187325848A5 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:25:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bbn0104.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.111.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DEE25845B9 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:25:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from BN3PR0401CA0025.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (25.162.159.163) by CO1PR04MB539.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.73.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.87.18; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:30:14 +0000 Received: from BN1BFFO11FD055.protection.gbl (2a01:111:f400:7c10::1:176) by BN3PR0401CA0025.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:51d1::35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.87.18 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:30:13 +0000 Received: from garmin.com (204.77.163.247) by BN1BFFO11FD055.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.58.145.10) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.99.6 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:30:13 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT06.ad.garmin.com (10.2.0.28) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.222) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.224.2; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:30:18 -0600 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB06.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.5.82]) by olawpa-exht06.ad.garmin.com ([10.2.0.28]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:29:41 -0600 To: Jay Laifman , Bob Hokanson Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? Thread-Index: AQHQSVw+HzKi+s1//0aS/al8bBZ2GZzyrW+AgAMU3oD//4vjAA== Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:29:41 +0000 References: <906E65CA-33C6-4153-9AB6-780C2FACE3FD@gmail.com> <7B1D5FFB552C49E4890E43EB1476AC7E@UserPC> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.1.140326 x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] Content-ID: Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of garmin.com designates 204.77.163.247 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=204.77.163.247; helo=garmin.com; Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 204.77.163.247) not signed) header.d=none; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(438002)(51704005)(377454003)(377424004)(24454002)(36304003)(13464003)(86362001)(40036004)(2656002)(19580405001)(6806004)(83506001)(23756003)(46102003)(19580395003)(106466001)(87936001)(1720100001)(77156002)(62966003)(47776003)(106116001)(77096005)(2900100001)(102836002)(92566002)(36756003)(76176999)(16796002)(50986999)(54356999)(15975445007)(2950100001)(50466002)(7059030); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CO1PR04MB539; H:garmin.com; FPR:; SPF:Pass; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; SRVR:CO1PR04MB539; Cc: Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? From: "Smit, Theo via Tigers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Jay, An easy fix is to angle a segment of the tube tip so that even if the air cleaner sits flat on top of it, it can9t choke off the opening. However, you might have to partially disassemble the carb in order to get the tube out so you can file an edge without getting debris into the carb passages. I don9t know Holleys well enough to tell you what is possible there - and, given there are a lot of different variants, some carbs may let you do this more easily than others. Theo On 2015-02-17, 2:25 PM, "Jay Laifman via Tigers" wrote: >It looks like Bob had it. I could not see any sign of the flap/butterfly >hitting the underside of the air cleaner top. But there were very obvious >round circles where the vent tubes rose up. And those tubes seemed >slightly higher than the flap. > >The car ran just fine after that - with the nut looser than it was. > >Now my only problem is that when I leave the nut loose enough to not push >the top down on the tubes, it continues to get loose, until it will come >off. So, I need to make some sort of tube that will go around the >mounting >bolt which will allow me to tighten down the nut firmly, but not to where >the tubes or flap have issues. > >I don't know Holleys. I'm assuming those tubes are the intake/vents where >the air goes into the idle/main needles to get the air mixture. If so, I >wonder if it makes sense to cut them down a bit, just to make sure there >is >enough clearance. Ironically, on my Webers on my Porsche, there are >aftermarket tubes that people ADD there, so that oil and other gunk >doesn't >flow down into the idle jets through the air passageway which is otherwise >flat on the top of the carb. > >Jay > >On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Bob Hokanson via Tigers < >tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Check the clearance between the top of your air cleaner housing and the >> carburetor vent tube. >> >> Bob H >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Laifman via Tigers >> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:41 AM >> To: Tiger Autox >> Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? >> >> I started the Tiger yesterday for the first time in admittedly a bit too >> long >> - couple months. It started right up. But then unless I was pumping on >> the >> pedal, it would die. So gas was getting there and the accelerator pump >>was >> working. I tried a number of times. Each time, it snap to a start, but >> same >> problem. I then took the top off the air cleaner and started it again. >> This >> time, perfect. Purred like a kitten. So I put the cover back on. When >>I >> tightened it down, pow, stopped running again. I found that if I >>lightly >> put >> on the nut, it would run fine. If I tightened it firmly down (and this >>is >> only with my fingers), it would die. >> >> This makes no sense to me! >> >> It is a K&N filter that I cleaned within the year. 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[47.55.146.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u20sm14809693qah.12.2015.02.17.13.38.06 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:38:07 -0800 (PST) To: "Jay Laifman" , "Bob Hokanson" References: <906E65CA-33C6-4153-9AB6-780C2FACE3FD@gmail.com> <7B1D5FFB552C49E4890E43EB1476AC7E@UserPC> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:38:50 -0400 Cc: Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? From: Dave via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jay: I had that problem and solved it with a couple of extra gaskets under the air filter housing. Good luck with this. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jay Laifman via Tigers Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 5:25 PM To: Bob Hokanson Cc: Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? It looks like Bob had it. I could not see any sign of the flap/butterfly hitting the underside of the air cleaner top. But there were very obvious round circles where the vent tubes rose up. And those tubes seemed slightly higher than the flap. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 14:45:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1CF25848E5 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:45:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C98225845B9 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 14:44:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t1HLkr16006935; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:48:41 -0800 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a209) id dm0213.54d120c2.72b49; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:48:39 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.94]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:48:32 -0000 To: "'Jay Laifman'" , "'Bob Hokanson'" Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:48:17 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBK+EAC1PaD+bkAQ+i6yT3NWRjgjwAAXk9Q engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-17_08:2015-02-17,2015-02-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502170211 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jay Good catch. Feb 2015, Hot Rod Magazine, Wrenchin' @ Random states the vent tubes should be minimum 3/8" below the top cover. Check to see if your vent tubes can be pressed down into the top of the carb. The Holley 500 I have around here has 1 vent tube with a steep angle slash cut that starts at the top of the carb mount for that tube; maybe a 60 to 70 degree angle cut. The tube only sticks up about 3/8" from the top of the carb. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifman via Tigers Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:25 PM To: Bob Hokanson Cc: Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? It looks like Bob had it. I could not see any sign of the flap/butterfly hitting the underside of the air cleaner top. But there were very obvious round circles where the vent tubes rose up. And those tubes seemed slightly higher than the flap. The car ran just fine after that - with the nut looser than it was. Now my only problem is that when I leave the nut loose enough to not push the top down on the tubes, it continues to get loose, until it will come off. So, I need to make some sort of tube that will go around the mounting bolt which will allow me to tighten down the nut firmly, but not to where the tubes or flap have issues. I don't know Holleys. I'm assuming those tubes are the intake/vents where the air goes into the idle/main needles to get the air mixture. If so, I wonder if it makes sense to cut them down a bit, just to make sure there is enough clearance. Ironically, on my Webers on my Porsche, there are aftermarket tubes that people ADD there, so that oil and other gunk doesn't flow down into the idle jets through the air passageway which is otherwise flat on the top of the carb. Jay On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Bob Hokanson via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Check the clearance between the top of your air cleaner housing and > the carburetor vent tube. > > Bob H > > -----Original Message----- From: Jay Laifman via Tigers > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 11:41 AM > To: Tiger Autox > Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking? > > I started the Tiger yesterday for the first time in admittedly a bit > too long > - couple months. It started right up. But then unless I was pumping > on the pedal, it would die. So gas was getting there and the > accelerator pump was working. I tried a number of times. Each time, > it snap to a start, but same > problem. I then took the top off the air cleaner and started it again. > This > time, perfect. Purred like a kitten. So I put the cover back on. When I > tightened it down, pow, stopped running again. I found that if I lightly > put > on the nut, it would run fine. If I tightened it firmly down (and this is > only with my fingers), it would die. > > This makes no sense to me! > > It is a K&N filter that I cleaned within the year. So it has very few > miles or dirt on it. > > Thoughts? > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 17:46:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB6325845C6 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:46:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A828425805C7 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:46:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo109 ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150218005126.UFJK20038.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo109> for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:51:26 -0500 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by eastrmimpo109 with cox id tcrR1p00T57wa9801crRLq; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:51:26 -0500 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=NGTmH3SqJYqL5rDOr1oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=yZK62Lq_DDdbknyDVDYA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net To: Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:51:15 -0600 Thread-Index: AdBLE+gxcNOgZd8jQVmBkHtsnuldtg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Oil pressure line fitting From: Andy Walker via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Guys: I guess I'm in need of help. I figured this would be easy but I'm being proven wrong yet again (evidently it happens a lot.just ask my wife). I got an original-style oil pressure line from Rick at SS and for the last couple of days, I've been on the hunt for a fitting that will screw into the 260 block on one end (no problem) and screw into the oil pressure line on the other(BIG problem). I've been to every parts store and hardware store in my area and nobody's got anything that'll even come remotely close to screwing into this oil pressure line. What am I dealing with here.do these oil pressure lines have some different kind of threads on them? Are we talking some kind of British thread pitch that no one AND their dog is gonna have?? I'm at a bit of a loss here; I have no idea what I'm looking for OR if it even exists in these parts of the country. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I've spent far too much time on this and need to get something done so I can move on to other things. Thanks much, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 18:49:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA632584716 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:49:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f46.google.com (mail-qg0-f46.google.com [209.85.192.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0B22580054 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:49:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id z107so30862397qgd.5 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:53:44 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=irOtU1GzdRbvqHCc/aWgB0Lo3INTi3BVjW2BJGy2nXI=; b=Ujbj5WLfFAptGmRGTfaxhgf9C54mb14gaV+xL811ZB3d9P4siuuYjfL1+N8YQzwqpa zhYpED2EGFIXK/AYIMkVl52fy0to/5K33dcrJXe/LhTyz4JW634oUgDvTsBe14WUs8L9 GJmqs4xWVmgVv5S3YGGTMQs7Le/IWAUCF6g/h04BMY0RSNZ6VXc41Xj/6Ve3X3Uc1ALr B8gIwnIettSuIFdGec34OIqgGqF4HbihFmoKd3TX3lfTPvSvNqpejMQxvpeZtEv3or+W Z4+o3HLS2GG/iHL0yJ8oZQN20Ek9DrXA1hE4KBzfwN4+1EU5W7yz18FoR16RFAgfPV6P bOpw== Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.97.117 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 17:53:44 -0800 (PST) References: <000001d04b15$001fe0f0$005fa2d0$@cox.net> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:53:44 -0500 To: Andy Walker Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil pressure line fitting From: Owain Lloyd via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I always use this kit on British oil gauges from summit: part RUS-640720 On Tuesday, February 17, 2015, Andy Walker via Tigers wrote: > Guys: > > > > I guess I'm in need of help. I figured this would be easy but I'm being > proven wrong yet again (evidently it happens a lot.just ask my wife). I > got > an original-style oil pressure line from Rick at SS and for the last couple > of days, I've been on the hunt for a fitting that will screw into the 260 > block on one end (no problem) and screw into the oil pressure line on the > other(BIG problem). I've been to every parts store and hardware store in > my > area and nobody's got anything that'll even come remotely close to screwing > into this oil pressure line. What am I dealing with here.do these oil > pressure lines have some different kind of threads on them? Are we talking > some kind of British thread pitch that no one AND their dog is gonna have?? > I'm at a bit of a loss here; I have no idea what I'm looking for OR if it > even exists in these parts of the country. Can anyone point me in the > right > direction? I've spent far too much time on this and need to get something > done so I can move on to other things. > > > > Thanks much, > > Andy Walker > > Edmond, OK > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 19:01:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3152425845B0 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:01:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f173.google.com (mail-ig0-f173.google.com [209.85.213.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246332580054 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:01:08 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f173.google.com with SMTP id a13so33859415igq.0 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:05:50 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:from:content-type:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=ngZj5hg8dtkza77CaR8pMp9n099/Dpc1s3uutU/2bh0=; b=Q2N+hJd8QoAB9txNMtrTr5eiHhaF+vsB6tQcRrVoCyOYDPc3X61DKBVaiAmC0M2Qxz xRjm5xYpC7ZVo34W5YiFbSVb+XUu25XTd15DFTUdD6coLDrBooDgk36ePKzjBfYL794L rOmmeIVPytNnPedMRhQB5BTHiQq7LSm7QXMfyAy3yH780IM4bzlC+rqoZXBeKieIDZqM 3vCypenGVYZrgVHrRLxsoBhxTcx1iiMUfOtvKvNHwEbv6sOPCRXT2bHfqECQvYdIUTFz 8lSFV4C1NqXKFEwKFM+EXwlr4ePFOiJmiNWrruhkx0kW17shUdaOZhR4jIqCzsKwuAKO Z3uA== dg8mr37606490icc.18.1424225150512; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.189.70.47] (175.sub-70-208-152.myvzw.com. [70.208.152.175]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l11sm5571827ioe.31.2015.02.17.18.05.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:05:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:05:47 -0500 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking From: H B Elam via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Can't you just put one (or more) gaskets under the bottom a/c plate to raise the entire assembly away from the tubes and choke flapper? Worked for me. B382000471 now with Edelbrock 2121 vice F4B. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 19:53:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE73625843DB for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:53:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1on0145.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.110.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C25B258016B for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:53:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from DM2PR04CA038.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.154.156) by BN1PR04MB536.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.59.154) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.87.18; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 02:58:05 +0000 Received: from BN1AFFO11FD008.protection.gbl (2a01:111:f400:7c10::168) by DM2PR04CA038.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:243c::28) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.87.18 via Frontend Transport; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 02:58:05 +0000 Received: from garmin.com (204.77.163.247) by BN1AFFO11FD008.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.58.52.68) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.99.6 via Frontend Transport; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 02:58:04 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT05.ad.garmin.com (10.5.143.145) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.224.2; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:58:41 -0600 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB06.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.5.82]) by OLAWPA-EXHT05.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.143.145]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:58:03 -0600 To: H B Elam , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking Thread-Index: AQHQSx95OYmynIYZR0GcFVYOPzoNLZz1pmeA Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 02:58:02 +0000 References: <3263978F-39CD-4976-B7C4-FC0224EFD005@elams.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.1.140326 x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] Content-ID: Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of garmin.com designates 204.77.163.247 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=204.77.163.247; helo=garmin.com; Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 204.77.163.247) not signed) header.d=none; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(438002)(24454002)(36304003)(377454003)(377424004)(36756003)(47776003)(86362001)(46102003)(2950100001)(2656002)(40036004)(107886001)(54356999)(87936001)(77156002)(62966003)(106116001)(2501002)(92566002)(83506001)(23756003)(77096005)(50466002)(102836002)(2900100001)(106466001)(76176999)(19580395003)(19580405001)(6806004)(50986999)(16796002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BN1PR04MB536; H:garmin.com; FPR:; SPF:Pass; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; SRVR:BN1PR04MB536; Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air cleaner choking From: "Smit, Theo via Tigers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If there is room to raise up the air cleaner housing (and if you can go half an inch - test this with Play-doh on the forward corners of the air cleaner) then you should use the 2 inch tall air filter from K&N. That will pretty much double the effective breathing area of the filter as well as giving you that much more room above the carb inlet. Theo On 2015-02-17, 7:05 PM, "H B Elam via Tigers" wrote: >Can't you just put one (or more) gaskets under the bottom a/c plate to >raise >the entire assembly away from the tubes and choke flapper? Worked for me. ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 18 05:17:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B9D258044E for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 05:17:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE5725800C6 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 05:17:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-16v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.112]) by resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id toMg1p0012S2Q5R01oMsUJ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:21:52 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-056v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.48.85]) by resomta-ch2-16v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id toMs1p00D1qGtEA01oMswv; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:21:52 +0000 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:21:52 +0000 (UTC) To: "Walker, Andy" References: <000001d04b15$001fe0f0$005fa2d0$@cox.net> (Win)/8.0.7_GA_6031) Thread-Topic: Oil pressure line fitting Thread-Index: AdBLE+gxcNOgZd8jQVmBkHtsnuldtgdjntBN s=q20140121; t=1424262112; bh=t27hx4CFPHAk55Onx/qgMEZrnKOMSSIV4dX4RPSv798=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=oxgP6P3jRw2dWzLE3ZDTxO5+u7WT4FN/HRM9g0TZnz+sgJjzIsAylL6/BQQGw+qnM rOWwh4ndXVcrZFmINJLViU7b52mbxn6ShzStCRAjZCXa1crBmHMtzzCeruMuvYi/bL GNq0Gd25Q0zwNvkz40EP8Wr438QhLcDDI/tyCzbWnMAB7hiongr0oefbdO746tbeWz tj7IAQbquLJ83NuLibX+JXnPzGXCLDFUIXRXJT2e7B4XUE2Emljh2X0SIMVlNb7+O4 78LGWj/0JQhlI0j+9DGGdaqnCNwK9ssjgCwHY5KATlLTrRCk0NIx+wUaTBP7BFto94 oCknDJlrbYWFw== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil pressure line fitting From: ironbeast--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Andy, Search for Part number: 2-4FMK4S. I can't remember where I sourced it from, but if you can't find it in a web search let me know and I'll try to dig through my records. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Walker via Tigers" To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 7:51:15 PM Subject: [Tigers] Oil pressure line fitting Guys: I guess I'm in need of help. I figured this would be easy but I'm being proven wrong yet again (evidently it happens a lot.just ask my wife). I got an original-style oil pressure line from Rick at SS and for the last couple of days, I've been on the hunt for a fitting that will screw into the 260 block on one end (no problem) and screw into the oil pressure line on the other(BIG problem). I've been to every parts store and hardware store in my area and nobody's got anything that'll even come remotely close to screwing into this oil pressure line. What am I dealing with here.do these oil pressure lines have some different kind of threads on them? Are we talking some kind of British thread pitch that no one AND their dog is gonna have?? I'm at a bit of a loss here; I have no idea what I'm looking for OR if it even exists in these parts of the country. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I've spent far too much time on this and need to get something done so I can move on to other things. Thanks much, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ironbeast@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 18 13:20:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4594125844C9 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:20:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889B025804B4 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:19:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 20:24:42 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.103] by nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 20:21:49 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.157] by tm102.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 20:21:49 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.141] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 20:21:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 20:21:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 67549 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 2015 20:21:48 -0000 s=s1024; t=1424290908; bh=VZbdIBRTLcqyDod1TqgZwdLon2ORoafO49oR3fdPO28=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oZ+UMz/Xbh5c8jGM2RvAz9D/OuH45RXrOkxNIuWiM0nTvbWQsp6uZ/UmjY6x9m08MBK+g9lzQcgXQeAI1njW3aLq7iamZVDggjQewPzf49uhdUNgScq2ZT/7JBcTHpVzOC8VIH15ebSgzrBp3d1nJXaNotki6hICU4SUmqP7TJ0= awXwf4Yp7E89ivCyCbaMda5IX7t16i.bgpEtQ67AelX4Ma7fc5tQZZSjYhkD UEHpMWW8C5l6RZaCHc7AbbI08d3xpmVHt6Jwb4KnQk11HAhFvMuUfZMRNVEr H.OQydXie0LTazKBvWnjx77by2KNHJVSiDroiL2.738hUW8b3IFT1OY0CYcA FpsXXBXetfQsg3SSq483.PQHj_OzoO9SfU6OgPOh7vhtOHaU1opKZXvGjUqr BKh4KUjo9lvDdgOJX7I1mri0hBXKf2tMfO13sIkUB11Qe9lMlDLbx99ExMKi OCQsU9mgUSAkaHSpUa4k7mdzEp.7kLwTGai5hUBDugTvMZa5hv0mbBnss6p0 ybBl_lz68PyL7_8DBV2eyS.k6.qORnEnGV6wlGRQ6hoQz0e7SnPAOMZfCgyh tKMvKCHkh8Mo4X5KuUtJoMkbLmR2ea4mZP7IBnogI8wgKfmDCDOTiY_WDF5. b5ilKcdM- Received: from [216.248.224.28] by web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:21:48 PST CkknbSBob3Bpbmcgc29tZW9uZSBvbiB0aGUgbGlzdCBjYW4gYXNzaXN0IG1lIGluIGxvY2F0aW5nIGEgcGFpbnQgY29kZSBmb3IgQ29tbW9kb3JlIEJsdWUuIFRoZSBiZXJnZXIgbnVtYmVyIGlzIDQwNC4yMzgxLCBidXQgSSBuZWVkIHNvbWV0aGluZyBmcm9tIFBQRywgRHVwb250IGV0Yy4uLgoKVElBLApEQU4gRUlMQU5ECgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:21:48 -0800 To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] Commodore Blue 106 paint From: Daniel Eiland via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm hoping someone on the list can assist me in locating a paint code for Commodore Blue. The berger number is 404.2381, but I need something from PPG, Dupont etc... TIA, DAN EILAND _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 18 13:49:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC8025848C3 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:49:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-37.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF092580492 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:49:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t1IKj5ku010553; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:53:47 -0800 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a207) id dm0219.54d12217.7e545; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 12:53:40 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.18]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:53:31 -0000 To: "'Daniel Eiland'" Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:53:27 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBLuPRjMCxHhS3kQEWiCS/EYgs1LwAA4Y4g engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-18_07:2015-02-18,2015-02-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502180216 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Commodore Blue 106 paint From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Dan Here is what I have 106 Commodore Blue Ditzler 13262 Lucite Lacquer 8435L Dulux enamel 98081 Hope that helps you Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Eiland via Tigers Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 3:22 PM To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] Commodore Blue 106 paint I'm hoping someone on the list can assist me in locating a paint code for Commodore Blue. The berger number is 404.2381, but I need something from PPG, Dupont etc... TIA, DAN EILAND _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4284/9137 - Release Date: 02/18/15 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 18 16:22:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D2B25844FA for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:22:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F140525800AA for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:22:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [216.39.60.176] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 23:27:12 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.237] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 23:27:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 23:27:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 86068 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 2015 23:00:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1424300431; bh=rBnXUL7tspOwfcdkGwjFdczVaiH2spgArR/AL3NMEqY=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HG7A6A9H5Qytnk+67IxXUQJ9T+4TEe4NEpF3pzpeMk6RgDBEmfWnDxfM+YhrZI0mXvISLK8p0Dyy6kV6LJLhG4ywvhGSgiDpLEBMpZPSGlIGWcFId3nqy3i0zzn1IDJtsN9d1stvcQuxOF6iX/sKNz+sc4mfaVAKqKfZrZnMQuw= _0MZ4Mp.gtxGFYP5sgH3jG5MtwVzh6ywl03yUKxWDTCVQTsGsch7E87ic_ge ayL00WchMYSPuPF9ApK0RZs2utVgcnZIiUt0KHTMLYQenmlt1WB8iX9IynIB 1qMVNOYChIZ3HyzHWWn_ROsXI8TgzrNQGfKFHdZTgPwitXP85R1C0nabBnBd zR.iFh.85b7.OKu9wdOZxlm90z9rRK48Edg.x2VykMdyT_ciD4v3UGBS.pOk vXhwk27Zf3HFHH3gb2KB_FZqnXj2J_40j22ykGWYK241YdG7sbQX1QZy5ddV xpLfxZiTNVfmfD0lVWRY7kxvxbv6vIKW7bnKeySlxbxlZ2WNSjRYyi7FSEpY l12uptftXh.wu.4uYGqynjFTSQaFzNXO1hw7R9bsuv1Wk04NsfVHhVCNm4qT lMhZTlm6u5kUvV8XsI.SVbR_P63e9bI_iO4wcKMBSu6REpL4t4PqdlQE6xxJ 6R0TbAIjAzDTyrWwkTMnaotApfFR7KmrxRMTcIT_.37E3JMUUYvQjPxd4oHs Ru9z7MW3bu3b_02LlPSeq0fAIMFK3SUSUI396huS6TD1USscqKWRhbDEfQil t1JPiWp3n6Y.mvfBViJl5uKM6INgSwSFuKyKxyAmwPd12HJQanTM5O3QFizd vnuUdEQhrhifo5F3ia8q9pb2vq3m0VtsqlBrNWIzzcu.QHkO4CeVXYsoCLhW HCskjUfFpCaF8xSKICwTqFjnl7i5xNkVVyPLwk1LDE1ZpWJRA8.Ja4NHQtC0 grw2Z Received: from [23.120.45.148] by web185306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:00:31 PST SWYgeW91IGFyZSBsb29raW5nIGZvciB0aGUgb25lIGZvciB0aGUgYmFjayBvZiB0aGUgb2lsIGdhdWdlIEkgdGhpbmsgSSBnb3QgbWluZSBmcm9tIFBlZ2FzdXMgUmFjaW5nLgoKRm9yIEZpdHRpbmdzL0FkYXB0ZXJzCmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnBlZ2FzdXNhdXRvcmFjaW5nLmNvbS9ncm91cC5hc3A_R3JvdXBJRD1QTFVNQURBUFRCU1AKCkZvciBIb3NlIEVuZHMKaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucGVnYXN1c2F1dG9yYWNpbmcuY29tL2dyb3VwLmFzcD9Hcm91cElEPVBMVU1CU1AKClNhbmR5CgogCiBGcm9tOiBpcm9uYmVhc3QBMAEBAQE- References: <000001d04b15$001fe0f0$005fa2d0$@cox.net> <2090241833.10967088.1424262112475.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 15:00:31 -0800 To: "ironbeast@comcast.net" , "Walker, Andy" Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil pressure line fitting From: Sandy Ganz via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If you are looking for the one for the back of the oil gauge I think I got mine from Pegasus Racing. For Fittings/Adapters https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=PLUMADAPTBSP For Hose Ends https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=PLUMBSP Sandy From: ironbeast--- via Tigers To: "Walker, Andy" Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 4:21 AM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil pressure line fitting Andy, Search for Part number: 2-4FMK4S. I can't remember where I sourced it from, but if you can't find it in a web search let me know and I'll try to dig through my records. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Walker via Tigers" To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 7:51:15 PM Subject: [Tigers] Oil pressure line fitting Guys: I guess I'm in need of help. I figured this would be easy but I'm being proven wrong yet again (evidently it happens a lot.just ask my wife). I got an original-style oil pressure line from Rick at SS and for the last couple of days, I've been on the hunt for a fitting that will screw into the 260 block on one end (no problem) and screw into the oil pressure line on the other(BIG problem). I've been to every parts store and hardware store in my area and nobody's got anything that'll even come remotely close to screwing into this oil pressure line. What am I dealing with here.do these oil pressure lines have some different kind of threads on them? Are we talking some kind of British thread pitch that no one AND their dog is gonna have?? I'm at a bit of a loss here; I have no idea what I'm looking for OR if it even exists in these parts of the country. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I've spent far too much time on this and need to get something done so I can move on to other things. Thanks much, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ironbeast@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 18 17:49:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E65E25844B2 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:49:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A549625800AA for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:48:59 -0700 (MST) s=s1024; t=1424307222; bh=FUevYJtP0TeXuXyC2CfFJ1ewN7xFXfbbk7GDSwbXbIM=; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Cc:From:Subject; b=uFR0Am2RkbC0ZSLOFZwA2S4R9nheq/Gx21onQOdUkinpf9R6JuEnFw/0T4NYbSPPpSUpGmoxltWn98G2HqpGzmhhiVvZxW4lNgQiB24/4O0CHqw8iP6QIpP7oPmkGKOHURKXHRw2yj78yKLETTXZ0aLwsn60UP/g6ttkiHVhRjk= Received: from [98.138.100.118] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2015 00:53:42 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.63] by tm109.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2015 00:53:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp214.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2015 00:53:42 -0000 Tp9dL7G3Z6bzVZg0N9rJnf.gKIFJ4dVmlFHlZuQ2usAof5xtEOvkfndnMc0L 7MCi3.0BGORsocTkQ0ak5Xb6LNVL8gtlUaUoC.Q99qZRTxPYCSRVqemWIGzd qlICkqmGIgcjzov2B2J7JN86yQMd2H.s3HIanI3RXmw1DcCEjIjIlhou97_A ZNdmKMWiRYnBreRsDp_HM5uOAxNq73OX7d2pfJISGIgogzg0rg05_ay1ZuBE PFRtmIrX44t4H1jE8c_3.n7_39QKuNYKyZI0sLiwn_3WrHz_cY28kf8NeRuo IuwglDFrWfOuyJ.lkGu7RWAz2N92PU7BMVFMElES_n8Lez63473GMpyw24WD uleHHo7xhwKp.e66.dXNSqudByeKhRjXCXuxo6wAlhlNRJmzriMB1mbfYdDp d6jY0CXAoizgK0D5PeVDZ6E2lBzQtdy3tJejXnOAzcSJu1MIVnpJx2JgUY7R Guwv9DC8F5J6PRaTy.yXN5yRQWgf1ACRJkybFwhjZFocPPgXETOrDjA2eEKQ bzjlmw31kjPE8MB818G6c7wWfHCDfeEK5R2EIA.M- Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:53:37 -0700 To: rfraser@bluefrog.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Commodore Blue 106 paint From: deiland1 via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ron, Thanks for the paint information. That will help me out a bundle. I can still count on the Tiger and Alpine community to come through. It has been years since a sold my Tiger, but I still lurk in the background. I've belonged to a number of car lists and hands down you guys and gals are the best. Thanks to everyone for making it the best. Dan Eiland Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy SB.4.
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From: Ron Fraser
Date:02/18/2015 1:53 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: 'Daniel Eiland'
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Commodore Blue 106 paint
Dan Here is what I have 106 Commodore Blue Ditzler 13262 Lucite Lacquer 8435L Dulux enamel 98081 Hope that helps you Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Eiland via Tigers Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 3:22 PM To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] Commodore Blue 106 paint I'm hoping someone on the list can assist me in locating a paint code for Commodore Blue. The berger number is 404.2381, but I need something from PPG, Dupont etc... TIA, DAN EILAND _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4284/9137 - Release Date: 02/18/15 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 18 17:52:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DA525844D3 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:52:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f172.google.com (mail-ig0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6549F2584555 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:51:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f172.google.com with SMTP id l13so40688405iga.5 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:56:36 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0/8DZh129KQL19e+n6aIu5vk19yZ3kNdnVJjXV+Xycw=; b=MfF7w3HhkZ3w/ao6pKeKb5rUKWpy/qRA/7wUJ2kOBTzO/ADGVKyjqQhqNFQit433Hj 2PM0jHDe7ak15QI2G7p5AMbKCn98dVSRPyhF7VFsSeNiml8XlATcV5SHvDs9vsRZuq1o dxPeJXL+nUE6Xt6rTT6VCWhKKpab2PLogHdwi7TCONZ4fzd0++IQjrFYWkELVPrxYf92 h4rr4N8GYeWE1LXbGWXMHWUnRfr7U/zQP3eNl3GLoOJzPGUg7/cY0mmYyvvCMIqLQKqp tUhv0VRNYz7iskpFdTP/2UScKCBT7Ljrd8p/hcSkS8DmNjdnLHVIwI74mNvLN1EWyKL8 uS5A== zm4mr3201519icb.81.1424307396340; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.63.20 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:56:36 -0800 (PST) References: <5983yjr78us96eqaeu48g4kg.1424307005843@email.android.com> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:56:36 -0800 To: deiland1 Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Commodore Blue 106 paint From: Jay Laifman via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net FYI, I wanted to paint my Alpine Commodore Blue. I contacted Tower Paint. I bought a can from them as a sample. I sprayed something with it and LOVED the color. I gave it to my painter to match. Sadly he didn't buy the paint from Tower or match it very well. I still think it came out great. Just not the great great color I got from Tower. I did not give Tower Paint any information other than the name and Rootes number. This was 20 years ago. Jay On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 4:53 PM, deiland1 via Tigers wrote: > Ron, > > Thanks for the paint information. That will help me out a bundle. I can > still count on the Tiger and Alpine community to come through. It has been > years since a sold my Tiger, but I still lurk in the background. I've > belonged to a number of car lists and hands down you guys and gals are the > best. Thanks to everyone for making it the best. > > Dan Eiland > > > Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy SB.4. > >
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From: Ron Fraser < > rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Date:02/18/2015 1:53 PM (GMT-07:00) >
To: 'Daniel Eiland'
Cc: > tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Commodore Blue 106 > paint
>
Dan > > Here is what I have > > 106 Commodore Blue Ditzler 13262 Lucite Lacquer 8435L Dulux > enamel > 98081 > > Hope that helps you > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel > Eiland via Tigers > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 3:22 PM > To: Tiger List > Subject: [Tigers] Commodore Blue 106 paint > > > I'm hoping someone on the list can assist me in locating a paint code for > Commodore Blue. The berger number is 404.2381, but I need something from > PPG, Dupont etc... > > TIA, > DAN EILAND > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4284/9137 - Release Date: 02/18/15 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 18 21:40:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEC22584882 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:40:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f48.google.com (mail-pa0-f48.google.com [209.85.220.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CC62580973 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:39:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by pabrd3 with SMTP id rd3so6603911pab.4 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:44:23 -0800 (PST) h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=BsMah78S7w43KZJkMsVxVWjTdEnSmvdoAZrCzlbe38E=; b=fUtwi38vig5UJVtxfkzKlUevSpSv2ygH1MzL7X9A5dzdrGZFusJzSyiUwKAv8EJ0ha gnidPWAdGA8aK/NoEpfXO4PVRpj6ByW6vnf5zIC1RyVuy6yzbgKcC3PD3t+r0NMRZC/n dBlKCl4HJUtdSg6wPWu8u0ri08OdDWM2T+4ILSDZZt2ZKxaqItKlxZ/xEZP2sdIbEWSQ HAOUGk+8HuThoJphuIQ6FWAFr30grRW1eGj4pj0Q2d0p/yQq5ftem1ijHt1A7Co/J9Qo cyL5Hct4GU2lFiSEBXXIDRRlP/uH8eYjyD9C1LRm+mb3gx82NCLGZjEJ6pfUZ2iJzkDi tGgQ== cy10mr4087789pad.151.1424321063503; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:44:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (cpe-76-167-32-241.socal.res.rr.com. [76.167.32.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id je2sm22164009pbd.44.2015.02.18.20.44.19 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:44:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:44:14 -0800 References: <5983yjr78us96eqaeu48g4kg.1424307005843@email.android.com> To: deiland1 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Commodore Blue 106 paint From: Jay Laifman via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Here are a couple pictures of my Commodore Blue Alpine. Jay > On Feb 18, 2015, at 4:53 PM, deiland1 via Tigers wrote: > > Ron, > > Thanks for the paint information. That will help me out a bundle. I can still count on the Tiger and Alpine community to come through. It has been years since a sold my Tiger, but I still lurk in the background. I've belonged to a number of car lists and hands down you guys and gals are the best. Thanks to everyone for making it the best. > > Dan Eiland > > > Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy SB.4. > >
-------- Original message --------
From: Ron Fraser
Date:02/18/2015 1:53 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: 'Daniel Eiland'
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Commodore Blue 106 paint
>
Dan > > Here is what I have > > 106 Commodore Blue Ditzler 13262 Lucite Lacquer 8435L Dulux enamel > 98081 > > Hope that helps you > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daniel > Eiland via Tigers > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 3:22 PM > To: Tiger List > Subject: [Tigers] Commodore Blue 106 paint > > > I'm hoping someone on the list can assist me in locating a paint code for > Commodore Blue. The berger number is 404.2381, but I need something from > PPG, Dupont etc... > > TIA, > DAN EILAND > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4284/9137 - Release Date: 02/18/15 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 20 15:41:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745C8258470D for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 15:41:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.bemta3.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta3.messagelabs.com [195.245.230.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90649258049A for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 15:25:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from [85.158.137.19] by server-17.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id C6/A3-02896-485B7E45; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:30:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 25934 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2015 22:30:28 -0000 Received: from mail1007.akzonobel.com (HELO ADCN116.d30.intra) (144.95.67.39) by server-6.tower-39.messagelabs.com with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 20 Feb 2015 22:30:28 -0000 Received: from ADCN140.d30.intra ([10.13.33.44]) by adcn116.d30.intra ([10.13.33.32]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 23:30:27 +0100 To: Tiger News Group List Thread-Topic: Air filter assembly Thread-Index: AdBNW99WrfK3T+veTziqOBGJF0n64g== Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:30:27 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.13.33.210] Subject: [Tigers] Air filter assembly From: "Ronak, T.P. \(Timothy\) via Tigers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Guys ... I had this problem with my assembly as well and it seems that over the years of dudes (wingnuts) torqueing the damn wingnut down to keep the assembly from rotating it deforms the lid. I had a nicely re-chromed unit and did not want to mar it so I created a frame of 2x4s that EXACTLY matched the outline of the lid so that the entire filter seating area of the lid when the lid was inverted was directly over 2x4s. I then covered this a towel and then pressed the lid in the center to create more clearance to the center of the lid by about 3/8ths of an inch ... I did press it with a press but you could drift it as well with a large mallet and another 2x4. The goal is to press it beyond the amount it will deflect after you remove the pressure. It sounds way more difficult than it actually is and it totally worked to clear my choke assembly. Of course this was back when I actually had a Tiger .... Fume. Tim Ronak Senior Services Consultant Services Group AkzoNobel Automotive and Aerospace Coatings NA Cell (949) 289-3357 Mailing Address 23961 Via El Rocio Mission Viejo, CA 92691 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 20 20:26:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8F5258059C for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 20:26:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.216]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186792580322 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 20:19:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo305 ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150221032348.UIWM25062.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo305> for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:23:48 -0500 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by eastrmimpo305 with cox id urPn1p00M57wa9801rPocu; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:23:48 -0500 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=1vId-8jKcfgs3C__zZsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HylfEw_WWRoA:10 a=gbSvsBJI1AcA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=KFvpsTzCDoqeIzX_vc8A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net To: Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:23:44 -0600 Thread-Index: AdBNhVpma8c1MnxXTmirExZzSLvW0w== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Dumbest question in the world From: Andy Walker via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, guys: Okay.this one may qualify as the dumbest question you've ever heard. However, I've never had any experience with these. I have an unused pair of what I call the "twisty band clamps" that are used on the flexible hose on the brake booster to the intake manifold. I've never seen these in place and have no idea how they work. Can someone help me with an explanation of how to use them? Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 20 21:58:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103CF2584E28 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:58:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180B8258037E for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:37:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.232]) by resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id usiS1p003516pyw01sic0E; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 04:42:36 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-311v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.177.66]) by resomta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id usic1p00E1SLFBW01sicFH; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 04:42:36 +0000 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 04:42:36 +0000 (UTC) To: Andy Walker References: <000001d04d85$cca68a80$65f39f80$@cox.net> Thread-Topic: Dumbest question in the world Thread-Index: AdBNhVpma8c1MnxXTmirExZzSLvW03tS63S9 s=q20140121; t=1424493756; bh=jV7qsR8nrTt27hGxJtAAk5dWDGoTSNzr6f6/VR07hns=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=KpgNbislgpBpOxO+S+pkDTDiUdrMwigjp1+Ufskw2CGHNQ6hok/NXE2cfEbBW8waB dflicD3IuIN0b0JptLbpp5wA/IGHk14sy9Xnu932pAB/u9EU3VHZvtfkAiHw3r74hT LnqLYzdaMCDSUdl5G6SZEezFkhe7pSGXQtwlm90XXZGJmrciiyW5nl9/2WDUp7zc9j AO2sp/Aw2pIUrAcUsLdUg4sQEgd8QGawPeQSnSHPasP5TsicZ1JEJzyiKnx7i3DmXN X4GdS1e+GPVDVCWaBzMCX8XyiRjMv3ituKchaejMveJrfqkIo3+zK1UR9qjonSWdV7 xAIufU/fqDIlQ== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dumbest question in the world From: Gary Winblad via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Andy, The "band" wraps up around the "cotter pin like thing" to take up the diameter to tighten the clamp force.. Dumb explaination, make sense? Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Walker via Tigers To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 03:23:44 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Dumbest question in the world Hey, guys: Okay.this one may qualify as the dumbest question you've ever heard. However, I've never had any experience with these. I have an unused pair of what I call the "twisty band clamps" that are used on the flexible hose on the brake booster to the intake manifold. I've never seen these in place and have no idea how they work. Can someone help me with an explanation of how to use them? Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 20 22:28:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9102584F00 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:28:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB8B25844C6 for ; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:06:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004961.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t1L59kjM011842; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:10:53 -0800 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a209) id sj1-dm103.54d12225.92243; Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:10:47 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.153]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sat, 21 Feb 2015 05:10:43 -0000 To: "'Andy Walker'" Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 00:10:37 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBNhVpma8c1MnxXTmirExZzSLvW0wADxXUg engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-21_01:2015-02-20,2015-02-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502210049 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dumbest question in the world From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Andy Here is a similar clamp instructions. Go to clamp section then WSW install http://www.190slgroup.com/joomla/index.php/technical Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Walker via Tigers Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 10:24 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Dumbest question in the world Hey, guys: Okay.this one may qualify as the dumbest question you've ever heard. However, I've never had any experience with these. I have an unused pair of what I call the "twisty band clamps" that are used on the flexible hose on the brake booster to the intake manifold. I've never seen these in place and have no idea how they work. Can someone help me with an explanation of how to use them? Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4293/9149 - Release Date: 02/20/15 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 23 14:47:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 394FF258482F for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:47:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from magic02.frii.com (magicmail02.frii.com [216.17.135.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AF48258044E for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:32:42 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 5671 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2015 21:37:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail.frii.com) (bobdixon@frii.com@127.0.0.1) by magic02.frii.com with SMTP (2a34f24a-bba4-11e4-b240-af77a0a4d13c); Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:37:28 -0700 Received: from 107-1-64-82-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([107.1.64.82]) by mail.frii.com with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:37:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 14:37:28 -0700 To: User-Agent: Tuxedo/0.1 Subject: [Tigers] Engine numbers From: bobdixon--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm curious at what point the engine number changed from S27KA to F21KA. Maybe around 9473000? To be completely honest and for full disclosure, I just acquired B9473118. It has a clear title but the VIN plate was lost over 25 years ago or so. The transmission and diff have been confirmed to go this VIN. Also it has square corner doors and hood which is consistent with the VIN. The old color also matches the VIN. Thanks, Bob _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 23 16:33:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA932584787 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:33:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31962580058 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:14:35 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1424733562; bh=v/mlRmSfNxjsZ+rRzWAckH3gzhXsWKsP3R5+77B8XtY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=Af7ebpBLX1C+z/jA6nvyiN4u7XK1G/+cRh7kJZSTGzcsMA93+NG57nu3B1lm666ASjax/Hdw/6ZP81hdvm4thEhpFofxhfsGZOZTV/Xj1oXpzdmLvxykW8SecEWqN3XTVNG4VDnxH2depwxkvaF6mnl9qNGMYRztPyL3sEqh3flVmVfmfitvtY1qzcrRxhyzWkDx8YXpEtsxh45NrsvJn1Uavy28spVMN21SMVbERObSPi436oiHTRIYNR7vGpVJ+kCuNkOKdHJnvRd8vKrRbb2pVFViq783Cim/MT8HwBHzvhZTzHpZ2RvPWk1/ZYN99oCuujBrafAicbiv5uOreA== Received: from [98.138.101.130] by nm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2015 23:19:22 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.10] by tm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2015 23:19:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2015 23:19:22 -0000 vLErR45szPR2dlT8cfJYdxCcJU70DfLK07uLmZuKI.bCUo81OObmNv4ivM.Zv.garpbvElYtuGqA CMRPhnq4T333m1j4qrpuSWVGlHNQy5eg0krBZ3euOD3nZAKPuLGU6lG.MvF4G7GBJlga75XsKHmL nvccIU7Qc0hfpRsCkWWuNbrHVVa0biSB_7JknjQj4ThiCeXi0IpfIFbLuM_G2JcW40SHRlM2G9wn 9q6xpWI8mLMcBWbLhbo.KuVBTg5COAdQRk5XDTxsOq14j1Wb9D7HHPeXb2hvg.21Ic5yeU6w31Ks l0IJpWQrCUqjNPs0EtXqIGxIqYaw_tXWa.E4i3_lP_lxobVkbWF6vPtehG66HzrO_z74f2swNGk9 oLTNmgOGaphfpSKRkff6xQvGsLehxNeqzhsjOraELdPqtd7t4Ll_5ZSCbPbVsf55bi3K8T4iF3qF KI4o2BND78ZKD4hcYIqaJlyu_rHUMlGaB6VucR53prEVHWx4p9boGuKBXSA-- Received: by 98.138.105.245; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 23:19:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 23:19:21 +0000 (UTC) To: "bobdixon@frii.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <623dcaa5250805633a41a33cb5c2d4c6@127.0.0.1> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine numbers From: Brian Glenn via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The BON listed B9473116 as 4489-F21KAB Brian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883 B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE B9472615LRXFE B382000846LRXFE B382001212LRXFE On Monday, February 23, 2015 1:37 PM, bobdixon--- via Tigers wrote: I'm curious at what point the engine number changed from S27KA to F21KA. Maybe around 9473000? To be completely honest and for full disclosure, I just acquired B9473118. It has a clear title but the VIN plate was lost over 25 years ago or so. The transmission and diff have been confirmed to go this VIN. Also it has square corner doors and hood which is consistent with the VIN. The old color also matches the VIN. Thanks, BobB _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ora_archy@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 23 18:33:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089952584437 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:33:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 192392580469 for ; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:13:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t1O1HK4B009144; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 17:18:17 -0800 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 401891c9) id dm0213.54d120c2.b8329; Mon, 23 Feb 2015 17:18:16 -0800 To: Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 20:18:06 -0500 Thread-Index: AdBPsv64MeLd881vTteP6UF4hH6N2AAG0F2w engine=2.50.10432:5.13.68,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-02-23_03:2015-02-23,2015-02-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=4 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1502240009 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Engine numbers From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Bob There is no clear cut Vin when the F21KA engine group was installed. Ford numbered the engines in a linear manner but Rootes installed them in a very random order. There are Vin B94731xx with S27KA engines and B94722xx with F21KA engines. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bobdixon--- via Tigers Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 4:37 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Engine numbers I'm curious at what point the engine number changed from S27KA to F21KA. Maybe around 9473000? To be completely honest and for full disclosure, I just acquired B9473118. It has a clear title but the VIN plate was lost over 25 years ago or so. The transmission and diff have been confirmed to go this VIN. Also it has square corner doors and hood which is consistent with the VIN. The old color also matches the VIN. Thanks, Bob _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5646 / Virus Database: 4293/9166 - Release Date: 02/23/15 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 24 13:08:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 696EE2585204 for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:08:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC3S21.hotmail.com (blu004-omc3s21.hotmail.com [65.55.116.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01B42584D5C for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:46:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU169-W98 ([65.55.116.74]) by BLU004-OMC3S21.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:50:55 -0800 To: Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:50:54 -0800 FILETIME=[33CF49D0:01D0506B] Subject: [Tigers] Tigers United From: Brent Edinger via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Is there a good webpage that has info on tigers united at Lake Tahoe this summer. I can't seem to find much. What hotel is it being hosted at? Thanks, Brent _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 24 16:52:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3A3258474F for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:52:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm43-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm43-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41D66258035B for ; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:27:36 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1424820743; bh=Qkp8e4TATeZkPHc1vL2jiDyx0WrfN/opzfKR48D+x+I=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=DwQrzKuVQ/WiTaQJeVd+Em8a9Njh2Au0GsZZ+cuZsuFCWyy20YQ9wc59kvuojzQJn723iduQ2NtqsVyLi5tMb16/HJTl5J4C7Vcg7BuWdhl0pbQ7sMK/bEFqVbo4UCwR+FrXFVA28ezy4vQoGew9tvqiWN1sldwBOIibMWV1UZ+IE2bgoe1/Ui7m3phT+7DVi566U5mL6JMqtDiKt5l6yBpTjN7CtM1lxHl8G98f+A3avOVOzXXhrXp325zVfz3vf7rdQWcvvx5Gb+DW1kcomY3sKH42j1VO0o/cuCiHJl2Sd4s8vbzJ3lu3BhgNtNDULn2XR136RxDltL54KTaQHQ== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm43.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2015 23:32:23 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.55] by nm43.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2015 23:29:25 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.174] by tm15.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2015 23:29:24 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.216] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2015 23:29:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Feb 2015 23:29:24 -0000 q0kXyeyzpHidnsOgEDX.ivp29Ff_Mr5ocxP3wIR7rwTC7DT7MOaopF0.qh3WYJpxpwN6ygeRrWNC qIIbK7O6gOqXZygftIK1DkOd_ImrBfL6uQm5mZB69.bHES1D7SVnYWHho.E5ojdkZJEO.m5124KH funD23ReBNFnDloPF_lI5ijloXEy5ov6snlKhP82a0tNNmMC2DQMK7H6s3pvo8f0uqzm2oXJbchp ARrwm4DaRSHoJp1HsvS35KPA4F5YaS.4VmSdfHRPgaXu9SRYgk7LaiLr7GSiKdVp4tm7gvtBxnYI Zym1nIE3m7NuQ52.44RN0ZwhRLIWRHVRNqvjQi0qgGvG3owN2ieQklW.gh7yZt.NJPJECTVkp.hi tfgKeZo4lMxmbPfIKft0iaogG6zz4V82uh7hsuFqfFEZJ3iLMwkNciL5MLduBxO90MlfqyWXZOaL mRaBBsi2OWiU8TSBaoffh2_6LNYZUHL_Lvmo2WM2FBnouzH4gwwu5aAJJ0B.4VxxMJ.kHkjeLfOW .iGMrlI1s.6A_Z8CFyKQP602Ym970w91qdWHRVbZvkHnwj8J2Ocmh1D1oxiyHe58- Received: by 98.138.101.171; Tue, 24 Feb 2015 23:29:23 +0000 Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 23:29:23 +0000 (UTC) To: Brent Edinger , "tigers@autox.team.net" References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers United From: Brian Glenn via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net There is a short discussion on the CAT website.Below is the most relevant portion:"I called today to make my reservation for the Tigers United - the gal at the front desk said the rooms were starting to fill up, I didn't get an exact number left but thought I would alert anyone interested in going. I figure you can always book your room and if something comes up cancel, at least you have it that way. Remember that is Dad's Day weekend too so other hotels may fill up too. The hotel is the Station House Inn...... "http://www.stationhouseinn.com/B B Brian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883 B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE B9472615LRXFE B382000846LRXFE B382001212LRXFE On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 12:32 PM, Brent Edinger via Tigers wrote: Is there a good webpage that has info on tigers united at Lake Tahoe this summer. I can't seem to find much. What hotel is it being hosted at? B B Thanks,B Brent _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ora_archy@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 25 09:23:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52D62584CDE for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:23:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m1.mx.aol.com (omr-m1.mx.aol.com [64.12.224.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E7725808A7 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:18:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-aag01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aag01.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.79]) by omr-m1.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 45D74380000B1 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:23:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-lqa04f.mail.aol.com (core-lqa04.mail.aol.com [10.76.8.14]) by mtaomg-aag01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 10A4F38000083 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:23:35 -0500 (EST) Full-name: Rollright Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:23:33 -0500 To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1424881415; bh=wrktIM2Eiuc6Wrx3xFUmBfVSgd3WErM5/jOxmHGSK/4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XiXTxzDs/S8ARd5GKoS21JwK1WNAlgKjRKgHLrWZRdObbI+FGZZlL7AJrbPv6YYoJ wRM0PhiYxK1wvuRAansRwYJswC+b8nqSTo9tDiYmrKoYDab45EaZsYdMTkI4icoj3x MWyAvRVNSiC+F4JVLiKqe1o1C8Qm7a7hhDKEsjQA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7e4f54edf707024f Subject: [Tigers] tool bag sold on E-Bay From: Rollright--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tool bag (original) just sold for $ 355 on E-Bay What next, my friends? Jim Armstrong 382002083 Mk 1A code 86 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 25 09:53:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E3E2584D29 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:53:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD45258444B for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:52:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from user1PC ([74.100.56.22]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NKC00CD77310E10@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:57:04 -0600 (CST) a=sPGWG2irV9Ea8g435QQD0A==:117 a=6jom2F-P7HcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=dUlUfHWnrwD7ge6_zboA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 To: References: Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:56:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [Tigers] tool bag sold on E-Bay From: Tom Witt via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net <<>> Maybe NOS battery vent tubes for $100? With Tiger prices climbing as they are I guess nothing should come as a surprise. Me, I've always appreciated the obscurity the Tiger previously had. It was a car you had to explain when someone inquired about it. I guess we can now say "the cat is out of the bag" (literally). A Tiger has become the "new, hot chick" in school. It is no longer "flying under the radar." That is great if it was bought as an investment. On the other hand there was 16 year old Joey who sold a Tiger his father gave him to buy a '90's Mustang. Now in his 20's I'll bet he is regretting that. Or the long time list member who sold his Tiger a while back and is now hoping to get another. I truly hope it works out for him but I doubt he will get what he had for similar money. Kind of a bitter/sweet situation with rising prices for everything "Tiger." -----Original Message----- From: Rollright--- via Tigers Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:23 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] tool bag sold on E-Bay Tool bag (original) just sold for $ 355 on E-Bay What next, my friends? Jim Armstrong 382002083 Mk 1A code 86 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 25 16:53:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274AE2584CD2 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:53:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DA5258015A for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:53:07 -0700 (MST) s=s2048; t=1424908675; bh=V+MoTI1Ixp7L+YN+YWG2gCBAL+t3F4jNluHmPoDSb+U=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=FwYNpZuXl7gspvk2B8WAZdNIOc09+Dw6iReyqNaW2bdT5mUsnZDkBerwK+2jV3JnGDobJNVwD+zcX9K/gLiAqTzSkd3ZH1KqgW5kJB2ww59mdKZq2ZBa8qwXtwiAugbBgwd8a8qvCYni82Ev8OL7BU4bDfJjGUFPXXnGg6cj90kmkZIxMtUTWpVq/6xeAcvUMeB+EkVHcAJ2UC+o7wlRU/ZStase47YbemAmmdNBmK4YZ7L7SrlZfj4GkqKWjxaSmgOZfAwpL9jrEIE3Pt1w7eKCBrCKEXK33xblOroMvQUXJh1xOYz/FyEcIc3jB57Ccr7myPObuYBDFv1koJyCMg== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm32.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2015 23:57:55 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.55] by nm32.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2015 23:55:12 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.172] by tm15.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2015 23:55:12 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.241] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2015 23:55:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1050.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Feb 2015 23:55:12 -0000 8hxoKV0j7Q5lLpfwXd1o1dxL1V.vK4rjVYmY88_drWt9hTAEmvyNeHgFLGZ4xd.60Rrdj4TaQqJm 3cy7el9RKtauyrkVydf1Uqo4eO2jqb78yMpKbG5ZPyK5OVKyDBqWiYeXkktnKujXHegjsQSsUWEf aDlkPHRLLyft26KAaFXY8qkQfI9vrn1JdBROhc8Fn7dJtH.X6coYj5SSyrE.H85TR1WoIW.S.2qb Z8BVLtZB14YSlyTaK712Oci0jBK22CkarDHV9pMQRMN8h7bZxEePAG5Zo41sDRqx4AK9R53u0iTU vT4recxhH_fJhia5KLF5yi41s_oS.nzaBAedGPy3vi0qolL__Q1XkXLKjBlFEu7gX58Xbch79IbH RbSGZRPYIVnv08QcVRmo90eDoMPgr3u4AuKuE6cEydsDEDFi7g0yKWCtenoc- Received: by 76.13.27.35; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 23:55:12 +0000 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 23:55:11 +0000 (UTC) To: "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <54DCE320.8090404@pacbell.net> Subject: [Tigers] Clutch Pedal Removal From: Terry Packer via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello All I want to remove the clutch pedal from the car, which seems to require removing the pedal's mounting bracket and pedal as an assembly. It appears the bracket is secured to the rear of the firewall by a plate with two bolts. The lower bolt is actually the upper through-bolt which also secures the clutch master cylinder. It appears the upper mounting bolt is inserted from the front as the head of a bolt is visible in the engine bay a few inches directly above the clutch master. So one would guess that the clamping plate which holds the pedal bracket to the firewall has an unthreaded lower hole for the master cylinder through-bolt and a threaded upper hole to engage the upper mounting bolt inserted from the engine bay. My question is - is it really that simple, or are there complications that I'm not appreciating, tricks to help with re-assembly, etc. Thought I'd ask before disassembling things in the dark upper reaches of the under-dash. All suggestions appreciated. BTW, if the upper mount bolts for the clutch and brake pedal assemblies are inserted from the engine bay, what finish should the exposed bolt heads be, or are they painted? Thanks Terry Packer9470018 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 25 17:20:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D3A2584D83 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:20:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5DD25803C8 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:14:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by iecrl12 with SMTP id rl12so9799422iec.4 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:19:31 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=1sOiCoLpt6O8eoQo8wotoJo9s4eUuOe1vAOLNhR0op8=; b=y4CEqA8XgTzBFkpPeQg3GvaaWCA23JzBB3i5fCS/dcPpDQz5p28AG/SXwBkNiAfQP2 51VLge1foTPRycleewNUV8XSfzljUVk+EDJeSUAnipgepY+gVm7wrnVZbaONthLuVU4u tJBj/3BojnGVv9Sryt2UshCFOlUGkU8z8XnF/6kvz7O/9v7Fnq7R4reZIpjTPFBFA275 T4wVmUeTk0jagxpcUcha9/C/J7aaFikv50YbV1bLmNN8paXEP5eU+zBILX6ByPOPApZQ DJmfV8ca9xfNDtwzfVKAtuuPW2bINT9w6yFgZ5a3ck8Iadyab1wa7YDE254DF9XPWj1F 6oVw== h20mr31129759igt.43.1424909971575; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:19:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.43.63.20 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:19:31 -0800 (PST) References: <54DCE320.8090404@pacbell.net> <433127655.85635.1424908511427.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:19:31 -0800 To: Terry Packer Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch Pedal Removal From: Jay Laifman via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'd certainly listen if anyone said otherwise. But that is exactly my recollection when I took it out of my Alpine. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Terry Packer via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Hello All > I want to remove the clutch pedal from the car, which seems to require > removing the pedal's mounting bracket and pedal as an assembly. It appears > the bracket is secured to the rear of the firewall by a plate with two > bolts. The lower bolt is actually the upper through-bolt which also secures > the clutch master cylinder. It appears the upper mounting bolt is inserted > from the front as the head of a bolt is visible in the engine bay a few > inches directly above the clutch master. So one would guess that the > clamping plate which holds the pedal bracket to the firewall has an > unthreaded lower hole for the master cylinder through-bolt and a threaded > upper hole to engage the upper mounting bolt inserted from the engine bay. > > My question is - is it really that simple, or are there complications that > I'm not appreciating, tricks to help with re-assembly, etc. Thought I'd ask > before disassembling things in the dark upper reaches of the under-dash. > All suggestions appreciated. > BTW, if the upper mount bolts for the clutch and brake pedal assemblies > are inserted from the engine bay, what finish should the exposed bolt heads > be, or are they painted? > > Thanks > Terry Packer9470018 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 25 18:05:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5647258457F for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:05:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m4.mx.aol.com (omr-m4.mx.aol.com [64.12.226.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CCB258014F for ; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:04:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mab02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mab02.mx.aol.com [172.26.249.84]) by omr-m4.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E68DF38000051; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:09:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mla04d.mail.aol.com (core-mla04.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.4]) by mtaomg-mab02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A189E38000084; Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:09:02 -0500 (EST) Full-name: CoolVT Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:09:02 -0500 To: packertl3@yahoo.com, tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1424912942; bh=y3z7uMpsBtFBDK510l43+GkYv2S5eODdy/K1j2J6igk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cKki+ic1VRNntcRsEmliGLc+ASPHKAngz8BCQGGucA5emDWOjd78OoiD9pe3m0q1k hjnWIUkyoLLfmtDEdmoLiH9haup7q6DBbmCfbKj1bdyj6gQir+FnkYi2oGMlJnynow M75xGYt/83psAMUmEw0C00n5XuaPK64kcCg3Ll9w= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1af95454ee722e37a8 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch Pedal Removal From: CoolVT--- via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net One suggestion if you haven't done it yet.....remove the seat and throw a heavy blanket on the floor. Makes working there soooo much easier. In a message dated 2/25/2015 6:58:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tigers@autox.team.net writes: Hello All I want to remove the clutch pedal from the car, which seems to require removing the pedal's mounting bracket and pedal as an assembly. It appears the bracket is secured to the rear of the firewall by a plate with two bolts. The lower bolt is actually the upper through-bolt which also secures the clutch master cylinder. It appears the upper mounting bolt is inserted from the front as the head of a bolt is visible in the engine bay a few inches directly above the clutch master. So one would guess that the clamping plate which holds the pedal bracket to the firewall has an unthreaded lower hole for the master cylinder through-bolt and a threaded upper hole to engage the upper mounting bolt inserted from the engine bay. My question is - is it really that simple, or are there complications that I'm not appreciating, tricks to help with re-assembly, etc. Thought I'd ask before disassembling things in the dark upper reaches of the under-dash. All suggestions appreciated. BTW, if the upper mount bolts for the clutch and brake pedal assemblies are inserted from the engine bay, what finish should the exposed bolt heads be, or are they painted? Thanks Terry Packer9470018 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 26 06:54:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD0825844A0 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 06:54:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173023pub.verizon.net (vms173023pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE392580A99 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 06:54:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from macbook-pro.home ([108.15.60.225]) by vms173023.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NKD00BDFTHO0W30@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 07:58:38 -0600 (CST) a=8YVzfIn9Nbi3cyeGw1P5rg==:117 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=TTsHpl5Hv4pgAVYFVW4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=OAkk-92763FgDU5JCq0A:9 a=bmYeQV5jAaRnCixQ:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=b9NHwVTbTtwMTZjVgogA:9 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=Sf_gFPzhefAA:10 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 08:58:35 -0500 References: <54DCE320.8090404@pacbell.net> <433127655.85635.1424908511427.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> To: Terry Packer , Terry Packer via Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch Pedal Removal From: Larry Paulick via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Terry, how big are you physically. If space getting in is a problem, remove the seat, and then it is how you described. Here are 2 photos of a stock and modified assembly. Larry On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:55 PM, Terry Packer via Tigers wrote: > Hello All > I want to remove the clutch pedal from the car, which seems to require removing the pedal's mounting bracket and pedal as an assembly. It appears the bracket is secured to the rear of the firewall by a plate with two bolts. The lower bolt is actually the upper through-bolt which also secures the clutch master cylinder. It appears the upper mounting bolt is inserted from the front as the head of a bolt is visible in the engine bay a few inches directly above the clutch master. So one would guess that the clamping plate which holds the pedal bracket to the firewall has an unthreaded lower hole for the master cylinder through-bolt and a threaded upper hole to engage the upper mounting bolt inserted from the engine bay. > > My question is - is it really that simple, or are there complications that I'm not appreciating, tricks to help with re-assembly, etc. Thought I'd ask before disassembling things in the dark upper reaches of the under-dash. All suggestions appreciated. > BTW, if the upper mount bolts for the clutch and brake pedal assemblies are inserted from the engine bay, what finish should the exposed bolt heads be, or are they painted? > > Thanks > Terry Packer9470018 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/lpaulick1@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 26 18:50:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1EC2584F3F for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:50:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43ADF2580A32 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 18:47:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by wgha1 with SMTP id a1so16381020wgh.12 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:52:24 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RE8UWkpIle5c6nWItnaUpOf4XJ7kOlib9hwpGE1s4Zk=; b=OpizDuIWqeZt+zNLTuZ/MhHnmdOZCOSkqElOkBWG+ppxftGE7KhvneQiC6/YKYyihG i0DSGU0YngN+fvHge4aNGKm2ZI/NUmbZbsTEZjMOt5JjN6vG03ZSnqNtUAN1RqyKgnJh muE9J/CzVJro5FLvImNutyQmAnJ/28N+fqV1E9pfwtr/f31jtpWrIpI4Ek0CU5B/N6Oj TfbdU58qM60vpL+8QaH7ICQwQVvrQPRiWcWOUfbIQfk11H5fFe65jwf4SNnXUY0PtGLW 2h8WV7RcAt8IVz5vWcTApRlpDiSNDRiocNdT1ZhVFMbXkF6/p68n1ooKpwZM+k8EDqID Yh3A== h5mr22098730wje.109.1425001944615; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.214.131 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:52:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:52:24 -0500 To: Tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Bristol RI British Car Festival From: Stu via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net There is a new British Car happening this June, in Bristol RI. It's produced by the same folks who run the Invasion at Stowe, VT each year. Definitely something to keep in mind.. Here's the details: http://britishmotorcarfestival.com/ Maybe I'll see you there. Stu Brennan _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 27 12:25:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DEA2584683 for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:25:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1on0088.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.110.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6228825809EC for ; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 12:25:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from CO2PR0601MB0935.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (25.160.10.149) by CO2PR0601MB0934.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (25.160.10.148) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.93.16; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:30:26 +0000 Received: from CO2PR0601MB0935.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([25.160.10.149]) by CO2PR0601MB0935.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([25.160.10.149]) with mapi id 15.01.0093.004; Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:30:26 +0000 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: RI event Thread-Index: AdBSw9WEj1csAvivRBCoFipW5H4QLQ== Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:30:26 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [96.241.205.115] header.d=none; x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CO2PR0601MB0934; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CO2PR0601MB0934; x-forefront-prvs: 05009853EF x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(6009001)(102836002)(2351001)(15975445007)(33656002)(2900100001)(221733001)(512954002)(99286002)(110136001)(19580395003)(19580405001)(107886001)(2501003)(15395725005)(92566002)(50986999)(54356999)(229853001)(62966003)(2656002)(87936001)(450100001)(122556002)(77156002)(66066001)(46102003)(40100003)(86362001)(74316001)(76576001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:CO2PR0601MB0934; H:CO2PR0601MB0935.namprd06.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; Subject: [Tigers] RI event From: Larry Wright via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net " challenging back roads of Rhode Island"... who knew? :^) 66 different classes -- impressive. Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:52:24 -0500 From: Stu To: Tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Bristol RI British Car Festival Message-ID: There is a new British Car happening this June, in Bristol RI. It's produced by the same folks who run the Invasion at Stowe, VT each year. Definitely something to keep in mind.. Here's the details: http://britishmotorcarfestival.com/ Maybe I'll see you there. Stu Brennan _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 28 12:52:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8723025848D9 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 12:52:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm35-vm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10025258023F for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 12:52:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2015 19:57:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.118] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2015 19:53:38 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.165] by tm109.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2015 19:53:32 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.154] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2015 19:53:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Feb 2015 19:53:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 73639 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2015 19:53:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1425153211; bh=pmp6FwaGq8VfKx62VbCEGl0BZnX0YbtEGegxw8+baNk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FebBHJ1PQ9edu+PHfcitq5JU6i1p0VmSH/sl/13McpGX2G0IRv9PtflLQYgRN11vA1JGNUlCRjyIdTLGSC1U+QooONwHrtLk7hZxRZwt2eMIhYg/hHNKB8rn4m+lmsmkA3UOSF11yr6C+1ZWlzbU0KvsOegeVwWtEdQeIMbgaSk= bvLJdxu9waA8wmw5n0z47Hja1r9maxl3P3AyNborCj.I7XXxYKwzoLESh1_W eD4NZpLtNGJYxC8zG42HuepzpRp1gf9DZU319fw1rT4QDRVKTw.faH1wP7Dy OM5EyuOG9UpP5mTg5QDncOWwteQdepLD7.tegsJDZZRhqhTqBuow6AeR9Mq2 bpPindmrxGs0zor5Wbds97lAKt15xVW8sAR6.j6hqk_ZBBZYGMiW7WSO0tK6 c6_urHCn7M0aAmxNhoeVu8ZnktOfDp66rQ3j_vJqRskXnEGgKKV9VAMRz.iU sNs3nJi3yMPuXhtN7J9oyRTbaRyazaWWLmbpxNzBq.nzfjMpnj0Q6evfzJ4J 1YlzVP_6O0BSKV0JaKCB75pzVC3rjDriFwp_AhX38mPWbKeFgLg4cbUKmj_H DWVDAUBDXVKokhrxaVTsMMrQrwTIIn8LOYmBhiN4_QYsdMBZLOuowwzk7CVD gY_PCrcSkjhUIM.2KQITlkjVptYy9h.t40IY99wOc0L9ppRBRa1bwnfRYdJA _hAys.PYZtZWDgPEWcdNzWEJN1sMY3K7LNSnUp9PtiFt1_hcAyk1FcO1m9.j I3t9bvHb02pOHk8_s9Hzj_ZVcqndpHHPUfkE0eQA0FZZu58qhF8yDkb1cQQs K2E0_BIaHkC0_Y7bP5ELH9abtMLGQY_B5PIRgiAYGw30JTBZBHQY- Received: from [108.240.220.19] by web181004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 28 Feb 2015 11:53:31 PST SnVzdCBhIHdhcm5pbmcgdG8gYW55b25lIHdobyBpcyB0aGlua2luZyBvZiBiaWRkaW5nIG9uIHRoYXQgYmVhdXRpZnVsIFRpZ2VyIG9uIGViYXkuICBJdCdzIGFuIEFsZ2VyLCBidXQgdGhpcyBpcyBub3Qgc3RhdGVkIGluIHRoZSBlYmF5IGxpc3RpbmcuICBUaGUgc2FtZSBjYXIgd2FzIGFkdmVydGlzZWQgb24gZWJheSBsYXN0IERlY2VtYmVyLiAgU2luY2UgdGhlIHNlbGxlciBoYXMgMCBmZWVkYmFjayBhbmQgdGhlIGNhciBpcyBzZWxsaW5nIGZvciBubyByZXNlcnZlLCBteSBndWVzcyBpcyB0aGF0IGVudGkBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 11:53:31 -0800 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Ebay Tiger - Fraudulent From: Randall Antosiak via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Just a warning to anyone who is thinking of bidding on that beautiful Tiger on ebay. It's an Alger, but this is not stated in the ebay listing. The same car was advertised on ebay last December. Since the seller has 0 feedback and the car is selling for no reserve, my guess is that entire listing is fraudulent. The December ad says: This Alpine was converted to a Tiger and completely restored in the early 1990's in California. Here is the current ebay ad: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Makes-SunbeamTiger-MK1A-/261794971948?_trksid=p2054897.l4275 Here is the ebay ad from last December: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Sunbeam-Tiger-Base-4-7L-/191457012183?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&forcerrptr=true&hash=item2c93ba29d7&item=191457012183&nma=true&si=QvEryiQhp%252Fquh6mQbLHXThVDRBg%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net