Subject: Re: [Tigers] Replacing rear axle bearings (Terry Lawell)

From: Ramon Spontelli via Tigers <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2022 12:47:46 -0800

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Terry,

If you can get your hands on an Alpine rear hub, you can make a puller =
to easily pop those hubs.

Here=E2=80=99s the poop on it, copied and pasted from an e-mail message =
I sent to Dan Walters after building mine in November, 2019.

Up =E2=80=99til then, I used to beg/borrow/rent a really honkin=E2=80=99 =
heavy-duty puller that Dan had fabricated for his own use.  This time, =
since it was a discretionary project, I had time to think if there was =
any way to apply the principles of Dan=E2=80=99s puller without all the =
machine work he=E2=80=99d done. The =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=80=9D employed =
a used Alpine rear hub.

Here are the parts I used:
One used Alpine rear axle hub
Four used 2-1/2 to 3-inch wheel studs, or you could just use four pieces =
7/16 x 20 threaded rod
Four used Alpine/Tiger lug nuts
Four new 1-1/4-inch 7/16 x 20 coupling nuts, purchased at Ace Hardware @ =
$4.69 each (OUCH!)
I took pictures:

Piece o=E2=80=99 cake:
Jack up the car and remove the wheel.
Remove the brake drum.
Pull the cotter pin and back the axle/hub nut off =E2=80=98till it=E2=80=99=
s flush with the end of the axle.
Screw the four coupling nuts half-way onto the four wheel studs:

Use the long wheel studs or threaded rods to mount the Alpine hub onto =
the four coupling nuts.  Screw them in until they bottom out on the =
Tiger wheel studs inside the coupling nuts.

Snug up the four lug nuts to bring the Alpine hub up against and =
perpendicular to the end of the axle, and evenly apply torque to the lug =
nuts=E2=80=94rotating, one at a time-- =E2=80=98til the Tiger hub hub =
pops off the axle.=20
What you are doing here is trying to squeeze the two hubs together.  But =
they can=E2=80=99t come together because the end of the axle is in the =
way.  For them to come together, the Tiger hub that=E2=80=99s stuck on =
the axle has to come off the axle.
Miller time!

If you go for it, don=E2=80=99t forget you are putting the small-hole =
end of the Alpine hub toward the small-hole end of the Tiger hub, and =
the axle.

Don=E2=80=99t forget to pop the cotter pin and loosen the axle nut.

And remember the jack stands when you lift the car.

Good luck with it.

Ramon

On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:48 AM, Terry Lawell <[email-masked]> wrote:

I thank everyone for their inputs. I will start on it in a couple of=20
weeks once things warm up here. I will try the traditional method to=20
pull the hub and go from there. I am sure it will be fun.

Terry

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style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: =
after-white-space;" class=3D"">Terry,<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If you can get your hands on an Alpine =
rear hub, you can make a puller to easily pop those hubs.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Here=E2=80=99s the poop =
on it, copied and pasted from an e-mail message I sent to Dan Walters =
after building mine in November, 2019.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Up =E2=80=99til then, I used to =
beg/borrow/rent a really honkin=E2=80=99 heavy-duty puller that Dan had =
fabricated for his own use. &nbsp;This time, since it was a =
discretionary project, I had time to think if there was any way to apply =
the principles of Dan=E2=80=99s puller without all the machine work =
he=E2=80=99d done. The =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=80=9D employed a used Alpine =
rear hub.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Here =
are the parts I used:</div><div class=3D""><ul class=3D""><li =
class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial,=
 serif" class=3D"">One
	used Alpine rear axle hub</font></p>
	</li><li class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial, serif" class=3D"">Four
	used 2-1/2 to 3-inch wheel studs, or you could just use four =
pieces 7/16 x 20 threaded rod</font></p>
	</li><li class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial, serif" class=3D"">Four
	used Alpine/Tiger lug nuts</font></p>
	</li><li class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial, serif" class=3D"">Four
	new 1-1/4-inch 7/16 x 20 coupling nuts, purchased at Ace =
Hardware @
	$4.69 each (OUCH!)</font></p>
</li></ul><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" class=3D"">I took =
pictures:</p><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div><div =
class=3D""><img apple-inline=3D"yes" =
id=3D"2AD525D4-2922-4A84-B441-8FCA50685CD0" =
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class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Arial, serif" class=3D"">Piece
o=E2=80=99 cake:</font></p><div class=3D""><ol class=3D""><li =
class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial,=
 serif" class=3D"">Jack
	up the car and remove the wheel.</font></p>
	</li><li class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial, serif" class=3D"">Remove
	the brake drum.</font></p>
	</li><li class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial, serif" class=3D"">Pull
	the cotter pin and back the axle/hub nut off =E2=80=98till =
it=E2=80=99s flush
	with the end of the axle.</font></p>
	</li><li class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial, serif" class=3D"">Screw
	the four coupling nuts half-way onto the four wheel =
studs:</font></p><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><img=
 apple-inline=3D"yes" id=3D"252D74E5-0755-4781-90C1-6371D920BEEB" =
src=3D"cid:629343F0-0AD3-427C-A7F8-10A6A0D53D46" class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
	</li><li class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial, serif" class=3D"">Use the long wheel =
studs or threaded rods to mount
	the Alpine hub onto the four coupling nuts. &nbsp;Screw them in =
until they bottom out on the Tiger wheel studs inside the coupling =
nuts.</font></p><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><img =
apple-inline=3D"yes" id=3D"A54051CB-AA80-4781-A1ED-7045B025891F" =
src=3D"cid:D4684763-A79E-4470-AED0-CEE76AF38422" class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
	</li><li class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial, serif" class=3D"">Snug up the four lug =
nuts to bring the Alpine hub up against and perpendicular to the end of =
the axle, and evenly apply torque to the lug nuts=E2=80=94rotating, one =
at a time-- =E2=80=98til the Tiger hub hub pops off the =
axle.&nbsp;</font></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Arial, serif" class=3D"">What you are doing here is trying to =
squeeze the two hubs together. &nbsp;But they can=E2=80=99t come =
together because the end of the axle is in the way. &nbsp;For them to =
come together, the Tiger hub that=E2=80=99s stuck on the axle has to =
come off the axle.</font></p>
	</li><li class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-bottom: 0in" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Arial, serif" class=3D"">Miller
	time!</font></p><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></li></ol></div></div><div>If you go for it, don=E2=80=99=
t forget you are putting the small-hole end of the Alpine hub toward the =
small-hole end of the Tiger hub, and the axle.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Don=E2=80=99t forget to pop the cotter pin and =
loosen the axle nut.</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>And remember =
the jack stands when you lift the car.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Good luck with it.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>Ramon</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div><br class=3D""></div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div><br class=3D""></div><div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:48 AM,&nbsp;Terry Lawell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
class=3D"">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&nbsp;wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">I =
thank everyone for their inputs. I will start on it in a couple of <br =
class=3D"">weeks once things warm up here. I will try the traditional =
method to <br class=3D"">pull the hub and go from there. I am sure it =
will be fun.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Terry<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>=

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From: Tom Parker via Tigers <[email-masked]>
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Nice! Years ago I tried a "hub puller" and had it so tight my biggest
wrench wouldn't go any more. No movement, so I went to dinner. The "bang"
that brought me back was the hub hitting the garage wall @ 3 ft away when
the "pull" exceeded the "stick."

Tom, '67 Mark 2

On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 3:48 PM Ramon Spontelli via Tigers <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Terry,
>
> If you can get your hands on an Alpine rear hub, you can make a puller to
> easily pop those hubs.
>
> Here=E2=80=99s the poop on it, copied and pasted from an e-mail message I=
 sent to
> Dan Walters after building mine in November, 2019.
>
heavy-duty puller
> that Dan had fabricated for his own use.  This time, since it was a
> discretionary project, I had time to think if there was any way to apply
> the principles of Dan=E2=80=99s puller without all the machine work he=E2=
=80=99d done. The
> =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=80=9D employed a used Alpine rear hub.
>
>    -
>    -
>    Four used 2-1/2 to 3-inch wheel studs, or you could just use four
>    pieces 7/16 x 20 threaded rod
>    -
>
>    -
>    Four new 1-1/4-inch 7/16 x 20 coupling nuts, purchased at Ace Hardware
>    @ $4.69 each (OUCH!)
>
> I took pictures:
>
>
>
>
> Piece o=E2=80=99 cake:
>
>    1.
>
>    2.
>    3.
>    Pull the cotter pin and back the axle/hub nut off =E2=80=98till it=E2=
=80=99s flush
>    with the end of the axle.
>    4.
>
>    5.
>    Use the long wheel studs or threaded rods to mount the Alpine hub onto
>    the four coupling nuts.  Screw them in until they bottom out on the Ti=
ger
>    wheel studs inside the coupling nuts.
>
>
>    6.
>
>    Snug up the four lug nuts to bring the Alpine hub up against and
>    perpendicular to the end of the axle, and evenly apply torque to the l=
ug
>    nuts=E2=80=94rotating, one at a time-- =E2=80=98til the Tiger hub hub =
pops off the axle.
>
>    What you are doing here is trying to squeeze the two hubs together.
>    But they can=E2=80=99t come together because the end of the axle is in=
 the way.
>    For them to come together, the Tiger hub that=E2=80=99s stuck on the a=
xle has to
>    come off the axle.
>    7.
>
>    Miller time!
>
>
> If you go for it, don=E2=80=99t forget you are putting the small-hole end=
 of the
> Alpine hub toward the small-hole end of the Tiger hub, and the axle.
>
> I thank everyone for their inputs. I will start on it in a couple of
> weeks once things warm up here. I will try the traditional method to
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Nice! Years ago I tried a &quot;hub puller&quot; and had i=
t so tight my biggest wrench wouldn&#39;t go any more. No movement, so I we=
nt to dinner. The &quot;bang&quot; that brought me back was the hub hitting=
 the garage wall @ 3 ft away when the &quot;pull&quot; exceeded the &quot;s=
tick.&quot;<div><br><div><br></div><div>Tom, &#39;67 Mark 2</div></div></di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On S=
un, Feb 6, 2022 at 3:48 PM Ramon Spontelli via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-=
width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space=
"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-sp=
ace"><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white=
-space">Terry,<div><br></div><div>If you can get your hands on an Alpine re=
ar hub, you can make a puller to easily pop those hubs.</div><div><br></div=
><div>Here=E2=80=99s the poop on it, copied and pasted from an e-mail messa=
ge I sent to Dan Walters after building mine in November, 2019.</div><div><=
br></div><div>Up =E2=80=99til then, I used to beg/borrow/rent a really honk=
in=E2=80=99 heavy-duty puller that Dan had fabricated for his own use.=C2=
=A0 This time, since it was a discretionary project, I had time to think if=
 there was any way to apply the principles of Dan=E2=80=99s puller without =
all the machine work he=E2=80=99d done. The =E2=80=9Csolution=E2=80=9D empl=
oyed a used Alpine rear hub.</div><div><br></div><div>Here are the parts I =
used:</div><div><ul><li><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><font face=3D"Arial,=
 serif">One
	used Alpine rear axle hub</font></p>
	</li><li><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><font face=3D"Arial, serif">Four
	used 2-1/2 to 3-inch wheel studs, or you could just use four pieces 7/16 x=
 20 threaded rod</font></p>
	</li><li><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><font face=3D"Arial, serif">Four
	used Alpine/Tiger lug nuts</font></p>
	</li><li><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><font face=3D"Arial, serif">Four
	new 1-1/4-inch 7/16 x 20 coupling nuts, purchased at Ace Hardware @
	$4.69 each (OUCH!)</font></p>
</li></ul><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in">I took pictures:</p><div><br></div=
></div><div><img id=3D"gmail-m_65014793908527904232AD525D4-2922-4A84-B441-8=
FCA50685CD0" src=3D"cid:17ed9e260cc8ef2ec81"></div><div><br></div><div><img=
 id=3D"gmail-m_65014793908527904239A454B48-8B55-448B-9BBD-273C67BB5257" src=
=3D"cid:17ed9e260cdaa407672"></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>=
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><font face=3D"Arial, serif">Piece
o=E2=80=99 cake:</font></p><div><ol><li><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><fon=
t face=3D"Arial, serif">Jack
	up the car and remove the wheel.</font></p>
	</li><li><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><font face=3D"Arial, serif">Remove
	the brake drum.</font></p>
	</li><li><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><font face=3D"Arial, serif">Pull
	the cotter pin and back the axle/hub nut off =E2=80=98till it=E2=80=99s fl=
ush
	with the end of the axle.</font></p>
	</li><li><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><font face=3D"Arial, serif">Screw
	the four coupling nuts half-way onto the four wheel studs:</font></p><div>=
<br></div><div><img id=3D"gmail-m_6501479390852790423252D74E5-0755-4781-90C=
1-6371D920BEEB" src=3D"cid:17ed9e260cd13e1ea993"></div><div><br></div>
	</li><li><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><font face=3D"Arial, serif">Use th=
e long wheel studs or threaded rods to mount
	the Alpine hub onto the four coupling nuts.=C2=A0 Screw them in until they=
 bottom out on the Tiger wheel studs inside the coupling nuts.</font></p><d=
iv><br></div><div><img id=3D"gmail-m_6501479390852790423A54051CB-AA80-4781-=
A1ED-7045B025891F" src=3D"cid:17ed9e260cd9e7b1b5b4"></div><div><br></div>
	</li><li><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><font face=3D"Arial, serif">Snug u=
p the four lug nuts to bring the Alpine hub up against and perpendicular to=
 the end of the axle, and evenly apply torque to the lug nuts=E2=80=94rotat=
ing, one at a time-- =E2=80=98til the Tiger hub hub pops off the axle.=C2=
=A0</font></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><font face=3D"Arial, serif">Wh=
at you are doing here is trying to squeeze the two hubs together.=C2=A0 But=
 they can=E2=80=99t come together because the end of the axle is in the way=
.=C2=A0 For them to come together, the Tiger hub that=E2=80=99s stuck on th=
e axle has to come off the axle.</font></p>
	</li><li><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in"><font face=3D"Arial, serif">Miller
	time!</font></p><div><br></div></li></ol></div></div><div>If you go for it=
, don=E2=80=99t forget you are putting the small-hole end of the Alpine hub=
 toward the small-hole end of the Tiger hub, and the axle.</div><div><br></=
div><div>Don=E2=80=99t forget to pop the cotter pin and loosen the axle nut=
.</div><div><br></div><div>And remember the jack stands when you lift the c=
ar.</div><div><br></div><div>Good luck with it.</div><div><br></div><div>Ra=
mon</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><=
br></div><div><br><div>On Feb 5, 2022, at 10:48 AM,=C2=A0Terry Lawell &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
.com</a>&gt;=C2=A0wrote:</div><br><div><div>I thank everyone for their inpu=
ts. I will start on it in a couple of <br>weeks once things warm up here. I=
 will try the traditional method to <br>pull the hub and go from there. I a=
m sure it will be fun.<br><br>Terry<br><br><br></div></div></div></div></di=
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