From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: SGHT@aol.com To: boogiewoogie12@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:23:42 EST Subject: Re: Hi again You mentioned the Eliminator which Brock still owns-indeed I was in it on Monday driving it out of his garage to access one of his midgets which I brought up to Rochester. Brock and I have built a new Eliminator Special-TCI frame stretched 6 inches, Wescott 34 Ford body, 13 1/2" Baer brakes, 18" Halibrands, adjustable coil-overs, 9"Currie, with a Viper V-10 and 6 speed. She is great fun and does 0-60 in 3.5, 0-100 in 8.5, 0-100-0 in 13.2 and .91 on the skidpad. The nose is made from a mold of the original Eliminator nose. Sam Turner SGHT@aol.com /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: VEENET@aol.com To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:19:36 EST Subject: HMSA schedule ?? Happy new year to all.. Has anyne seen the 2003 schedule for HMSA ? Thanks, Jerry Burr /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: WMW79@aol.com To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:53:37 EST Subject: Check out "The Historic Motor Sports Association" Click Here: The Historic Motor Sports Association /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Vaughn Rockney" To: "Vintage Race List" , Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:44:07 -0500 Subject: Titan Mk6 Formula Ford Project Car for sale Listers, I picked up a 1970 Titan Mk6 Formula Ford project car the week before Christmas, and offer it for sale as-is before restoration. It is one of those "barn finds", and hasn't been on the track since 1979. I built a web page with photos and a description of the car at: http://www.vintagegarage.com/TitanForSale/TitanForSale.html I also still haven't sold my 1968 Royale RP2. I started it off at $15,900, and kept reducing the price. Last fall, at the SVRA VIR race, I reduced the price $1,000 per day, and finally I drove it around the paddock at VIR with a For Sale sign on it at $9,900 at the end of the weekend. I had no takers. This is perhaps the oldest Royale in existence. It only fits a small driver, say 5'7", 160 pounds tops. Today, I've reduced the price further. Its at: http://www.vintagegarage.com/RoyaleForSale/RoyaleForSale.html Vaughn /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Tom Phelan" To: "Vintage Racing List" Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 20:52:08 -0500 Subject: Shenandoah Circuit Hi All, First - Happy Holiday to all. Second - At last years Blue Grey event at Summit Point it was stated that this years event will be on the new Shenandoah Circuit. The SVRA 2003 schedule also shows it but I can't find anything about it there or on the Summit Pointsite. Maybe I missed it after all the holiday cheer. Well, it could happen. Anyone have any info on this circuit. Tom P /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: JH Bahn To: Tom Phelan Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 18:50:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Shenandoah Circuit The Shenandoah Circuit is under construction as we speak. It'll be ca. 2.2 miles. Iff the weather cooperates, the plan is for this summer. JH Bahn /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Derek To: JH Bahn , Tom Phelan Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:15:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Shenandoah Circuit Are you sure there isn't any info on the Summit Point website? I've got a surveyor's drawing which Bill Scott handed out at some stage - I'll see if I can scan it and circulate it tomorrow. Derek --- JH Bahn wrote: > The Shenandoah Circuit is under construction as we speak. It'll be > ca. 2.2 miles. Iff the weather cooperates, the plan is for this summer. /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Donald Rybacki To: vintage-race@autox.team.net, monoposto@yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 10:08:47 -0500 Subject: looking for info on vintage vee This message is directed to vintage vee racers in the Midwest (particularly VSCDA). I am going to be taking a look at the late Lynn Anderson's Kellison, and am seeking opinions from anyone familiar with the car and who may have run against it. I am aware of the fact that the car ran at Blackhawk Farms in June '02 and was entered but listed as did not start at Ginger Man in July. I've seen pictures of the car but have never seen it run, and know I'm going to be looking at something that has sat unattended for a number of months. Reply directly, since I'm uncomfortable with having spammed both lists to try to solicit some input. Dr. Donald Rybacki, Head Communication and Performance Studies Northern Michigan University /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "david" To: Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 12:36:33 -0500 Subject: Mini race car wanted Hello I am looking for and will purchase a Mini that was raced with the SCCA and has a log book prior to 1982. The car can be anything from a roller, body shell, to ready to race, condition not important but log book is. If anyone has such a car please contact me. David ycaptain@attbi.com /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Gonridn2@aol.com To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 16:50:52 EST Subject: leakdown test Well my Datsun Roadster motor is sicker than I thought, 20-35% leakdown #'s, most of it out the exhaust (bad rings). I overheated it last wknd out by blowing a H2O seal and finishing the last couple laps with very little water (VERY high water temps but cool oil and good oil pressure). With the 30% paycut at work, the new motor project is on indefinte hold, probably just pull the head, drop the pan, pop the pistons out, hone and re-ring (bearings as neccesary). What kind of leakdown numbers are you guys getting on similar motors (4 cylinder, pushrod, hi-compression pistons) fresh, and tired? Thanks, Troy /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Sam & Greg Scharnberg To: Gonridn2@aol.com, vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 16:16:47 -0600 Subject: Re: leakdown test I would think that leakage out the exhaust would indicate warped exhaust valves.?? On a watercooled Supervee (14.3 to 1) I get about 4% leakage with the motor cold. I have never tried it like you should, with the motor warmed to operating temperature. My opinion is that 7% to 9% is fine. I'm sure you will get other opinions. Greg Scharnberg Des Moines, IA 82 Ralt RT5 95 Citation SF At 04:50 PM 1/4/2003 -0500, Gonridn2@aol.com wrote: >Well my Datsun Roadster motor is sicker than I thought, 20-35% leakdown #'s, >most of it out the exhaust (bad rings). I overheated it last wknd out by >blowing a H2O seal and finishing the last couple laps with very little water >(VERY high water temps but cool oil and good oil pressure). With the 30% >paycut at work, the new motor project is on indefinte hold, probably just >pull the head, drop the pan, pop the pistons out, hone and re-ring (bearings >as neccesary). What kind of leakdown numbers are you guys getting on similar >motors (4 cylinder, pushrod, hi-compression pistons) fresh, and tired? >Thanks, Troy /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Charles Christ" To: , Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:27:49 -0500 Subject: Re: leakdown test out the exhaust? i'd vote for a valve job if the components are salvageable. overheating does (if severe enough) cause rings to loose their spring tension (the heat makes them relax a bit). why not just freshen it up with bearings and rings and treat it to a fresh valve job? bet that takes you through this season. chuck. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: leakdown test > Well my Datsun Roadster motor is sicker than I thought, 20-35% leakdown #'s, > most of it out the exhaust (bad rings). I overheated it last wknd out by > blowing a H2O seal and finishing the last couple laps with very little water > (VERY high water temps but cool oil and good oil pressure). With the 30% > paycut at work, the new motor project is on indefinte hold, probably just > pull the head, drop the pan, pop the pistons out, hone and re-ring (bearings > as neccesary). What kind of leakdown numbers are you guys getting on similar > motors (4 cylinder, pushrod, hi-compression pistons) fresh, and tired? > Thanks, Troy /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Gonridn2@aol.com To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 17:42:41 EST Subject: leakdown - part 2 Thanks for correcting me, I know better but just wasn't thinking. Noise out the exhaust during a leakdown test means leakage around the exhaust valve. Troy /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "David R. Mapes" To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 17:51:28 -0500 Subject: Second Round on the Dyno for the new motor... Hi Folks, Spent the day out a Maryland Performance Center watching George fit a little tuning time into running the business. This round of dyno numbers for Ol'Beastly's new motor is looking up. Keep in mind these are rear wheel numbers for a 306 on pump gas; I'll just touch on the highlights: RPM Ft/Lb HP 3394 305 197 4030 317 243 4955 318 300 5194 322 318 Torque "Peak" 6810 274 355 Hp Peak George thinks I may need to switch to a smaller carb (running 780 CFM Holley with the choke horn removed at the moment) as its lean and sluggish below 3000 RPM, so we'll be trying a 650 HP series carb on it next week some time. Today we went down one jet size on each corner, reduced the mechanical advance in the distributor and set the timing with more initial advance, but still only 33 degrees total advance. Given the progress a couple of simple tuning changes have made (we picked up 49 HP), I can hardly wait to see where the numbers end up. Now, if I could just get George's undevided attention... Oh wait, I cant afford that. All the Best! Dave ;^) '66 Formula S Barracuda, CP/Vinatage (GoldFish) '66 C code Mustang Coup, CP (Ol'Beastly) '91 Sundance, HS (150,000 miles and counting) '97 Cherokee Lame Horse Racing College Park, MD http://www.erols.com/dmapes/ /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Keith Burnett To: Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 20:35:17 -0500 Subject: Shenandoah Circuit Proposed layout can be seen on www.september8th.com courtesy Louiseann & Walter Pietrowicz. Keith Burnett /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "David R. Mapes" To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 22:55:23 -0500 Subject: Second Round on the Dyno for the new motor... Hi Craig, Here are the basic spec's for the new motor, its built for driving to Solo II/Open track events and running in CP. No real secrets just a really detail oriented shop, and a really good set of heads for the application: "Stroked" 289 Windsor (4.03" bore X 3" stroke = 306 ci) CNC ported Canfeild Aluminum Heads. 2.08" Intake/1.6" Exhaust valves Out-of-the-box flow:(@ 28" of Water): Valve Lift Intake CFM Exhaust CFM 0.10" 61.82 57.33 0.20" 126.31 103.58 0.30" 185.46 150.46 0.40" 234.38 178.97 0.50" 260.62 192.27 0.60" 280.64 199.24 0.70" 293.54 202.09 0.80" 308.66 203.36 10.85:1 Static Compression 4340 Steel Lightweight Eagle Crank (43 Lbs. Before balancing, which required removal of nearly 0.25" from the OD of each counterweight). 17 LBS Aluminum Flywheel 4340 Steel Eagle Connecting Rods Wisco Forged Pistons Cam (Mech/Flat Tapet): Intake Exhaust Lift: 0.541" 0.522" Duration (Advertized): 2880 2840 Duration (@ 0.050" lift): 2420 2460 Canton Main Cap Stud Girdle & Windage Tray Canton 9 Quart Road Race Oil Pan Edelbrock Performer RPM Air Gap Intake Holley 780 CFM Vacuum Secondary Carb Dual 2 1/2" Exhaust with 2 chamber Flowmaster Mufflers Hooker Headers: 1.75" Primary tube, 3" Collectors. At 06:09 PM 1/4/03 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Dave, > >What are you running in that 306? The compression must be pretty low to >be able to use pump gas. I'm also running a 306 in a '66 GT350 in >Southern California. I haven't put the car on a chassis dyno, but it put >out 425 on the engine dyno. I'd say you are getting more than that at >the flywheel. > >306 ci >'69 Windsor head (iron) >1.94 intake >1.64 exhaust (I think) >Dual plane intake >700 cfm carb >Flat tappet solid lifters >.550 lift cam >285 advertised duration >108 lobe center. > >torque=750@5000 >HP=425@7000 > >You got any secrets? > >Craig Wright > > >David R. Mapes wrote: > >>Hi Folks, >> >> Spent the day out a Maryland Performance >>Center watching George fit a little tuning time >>into running the business. This round of dyno >>numbers for Ol'Beastly's new motor is looking up. >>Keep in mind these are rear wheel numbers for a 306 >>on pump gas; I'll just touch on the highlights: >> >>RPM Ft/Lb HP >>3394 305 197 >>4030 317 243 >>4955 318 300 >>5194 322 318 Torque "Peak" >>6810 274 355 Hp Peak >> >>George thinks I may need to switch to a smaller >>carb (running 780 CFM Holley with the choke horn >>removed at the moment) as its lean and sluggish >>below 3000 RPM, so we'll be trying a 650 HP series >>carb on it next week some time. Today we went >>down one jet size on each corner, reduced the >>mechanical advance in the distributor and set the >>timing with more initial advance, but still only >>33 degrees total advance. Given the progress >>a couple of simple tuning changes have made (we >>picked up 49 HP), I can hardly wait to see where >>the numbers end up. Now, if I could just get >>George's undevided attention... Oh wait, I cant >>afford that. >> >>All the Best! Dave ;^) >>'66 Formula S Barracuda, CP/Vinatage (GoldFish) >>'66 C code Mustang Coup, CP (Ol'Beastly) >>'91 Sundance, HS (150,000 miles and counting) >>'97 Cherokee >>Lame Horse Racing >>College Park, MD >>http://www.erols.com/dmapes/ >> All the Best! Dave ;^) '66 Formula S Barracuda, CP/Vinatage (GoldFish) '66 C code Mustang Coup, CP (Ol'Beastly) '91 Sundance, HS (150,000 miles and counting) '97 Cherokee Lame Horse Racing College Park, MD http://www.erols.com/dmapes/ /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: DSRGR@aol.com To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 08:27:10 EST Subject: Ford motors I just traded in my old, tired class A motorhome with the 454 Chev engine for a 91 18' Tioga Class C with the Ford 460 engine/trans/chassis. Had to get a new enclosed trailer to carry all the stuff I had been loading in the Class A. Loaded trailer will be about 4000 lbs. Anyone have any experiences/advice/comments regarding the tow vehicle since this will be my first Ford experience.... TIA... Gene /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Larry Dent To: Gonridn2@aol.com Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 09:07:34 -0500 Subject: Re: leakdown test First of all if the leakage is out the exhaust rings are likely not the prime culprit, it is exhaust valves. Leakage out the intake is intake valves, exhaust will be exhaust valves and out the breather will be rings. Your readings are high and a rebuild is in order. My S 2000 engines will read under 5% when fresh, at 15% its time for a freshen up. Incidentally it is not uncommon for a factory new engine to read over 10%, but for a racing engine you need to be well below that figure to develop max power. Larry Dent /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Sam & Greg Scharnberg To: DSRGR@aol.com, vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 08:27:53 -0600 Subject: Re: Ford motors Hi Gene: We tow an enclosed 24' trailer at approx. 6,500 pounds. Here in the flatlands, the wind resistance from the trailer seems to make a much greater difference than the weight of the trailer. Our first tow vehicle was a 1989 E350 window van with port injected 460 and C6 3 speed Automatic. This lasted about 100K miles before the air conditioning went out in 1997. The motor and C6 never gave me any trouble. Mileage was speed and wind dependant and went from a low of 6.5 to a high of about 8.0. A friend with a later 460 with the 4 speed overdrive got about 1 MPG better mileage. According to Consumer Report, the 89 was a bad year! We traded for a 1997 E350 window van with 415ci V10 and 4 speed overdrive. With about 75% of the 93K on the odometer towing the trailer, I have had Zero problems. The four speed overdrive that I place in OD and never touch has been flawless. Mileage is 7.0 to 9.0 depending on speed and wind. I don't know which transmission you have, but the C6 is really tough. At this point it also seems that the C6 derived OD unit is also pretty good. Verify that you have a transmission oil cooler. If not, I would add one immediately. I also believe that the added cost of synthetic oil is money well spent on a tow vehicle. Mobil 1 and Red Line also makes synthetic transmission fluid. Greg Scharnberg Des Moines, IA At 08:27 AM 1/5/2003 -0500, DSRGR@aol.com wrote: >I just traded in my old, tired class A motorhome with the 454 Chev engine for >a 91 18' Tioga Class C with the Ford 460 engine/trans/chassis. Had to get a >new enclosed trailer to carry all the stuff I had been loading in the Class >A. Loaded trailer will be about 4000 lbs. > >Anyone have any experiences/advice/comments regarding the tow vehicle since >this will be my first Ford experience.... TIA... Gene /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Sam & Greg Scharnberg To: Bob Walker Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 16:13:20 -0600 Subject: Re: Ford motors Bob: All three of the 460s I know of and our current V10 were/are all in the 6.5 to 9.0 mpg range. This was with a full height Haulmark enclosed car hauler bringin up the rear behind an E350 van. I assume that a van is no heavier or less aerodynamic than a Class C. The V10 Club Wagon does get 14 mpg without a trailer when driven in the 75 to 85 mph range. 10 to 12 mpg with an enclosed trailer is amazing from my perspective. I could see it with an open trailer maybe. Oh well. :-( Envious is Iowa, Greg Scharnberg At 01:16 PM 1/5/2003 -0800, you wrote: >You ought to get better than 7-9 mpg. Should be in the range >of 10-12 mpg. What I get anyway..........My best unloaded >milage was 15.6 and I was going 70-85 mph! >--- Sam & Greg Scharnberg wrote: > > Hi Gene: > > > > We tow an enclosed 24' trailer at approx. 6,500 pounds. > > Here in the > > flatlands, the wind resistance from the trailer seems to > > make a much > > greater difference than the weight of the trailer. > > > > Our first tow vehicle was a 1989 E350 window van with port > > injected 460 and > > C6 3 speed Automatic. This lasted about 100K miles before > > the air > > conditioning went out in 1997. The motor and C6 never gave > > me any > > trouble. Mileage was speed and wind dependant and went > > from a low of 6.5 > > to a high of about 8.0. A friend with a later 460 with the > > 4 speed > > overdrive got about 1 MPG better mileage. According to > > Consumer Report, > > the 89 was a bad year! > > > > We traded for a 1997 E350 window van with 415ci V10 and 4 > > speed > > overdrive. With about 75% of the 93K on the odometer > > towing the trailer, I > > have had Zero problems. The four speed overdrive that I > > place in OD and > > never touch has been flawless. Mileage is 7.0 to 9.0 > > depending on speed > > and wind. > > > > I don't know which transmission you have, but the C6 is > > really tough. At > > this point it also seems that the C6 derived OD unit is > > also pretty good. > > > > Verify that you have a transmission oil cooler. If not, I > > would add one > > immediately. I also believe that the added cost of > > synthetic oil is money > > well spent on a tow vehicle. Mobil 1 and Red Line also > > makes synthetic > > transmission fluid. > > > > Greg Scharnberg > > Des Moines, IA > > > > At 08:27 AM 1/5/2003 -0500, DSRGR@aol.com wrote: > > >I just traded in my old, tired class A motorhome with the > > 454 Chev engine for > > >a 91 18' Tioga Class C with the Ford 460 > > engine/trans/chassis. Had to get a > > >new enclosed trailer to carry all the stuff I had been > > loading in the Class > > >A. Loaded trailer will be about 4000 lbs. > > > > > >Anyone have any experiences/advice/comments regarding the > > tow vehicle since > > >this will be my first Ford experience.... TIA... Gene > > >===== >Bob Walker /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "David Bondon" To: "VintageRaceList" Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 08:03:40 -0500 Subject: Smokey's autobiography Just finished the painful process of listening to six hours of Smokey's "Sex, Lies, and SuperSpeedways". If John DeLorean was really Smokey's friend, as he claims, he should have paid a professional to read the thing on to the CD. The constant monotone will put you to sleep if you listen for more than ten minutes at a time. There are a few good stories in there but if you take out the foul language and the women in Smokey's life there is almost nothing left. I had really hoped for some real insight into clever cheating that goes on in Nascar. There are a few stories but it seems that those guys will cover up for each other until they are all in their graves. I am sure that Smokey had some good info on the things Gary Nelson did but they are still a secret! Any one else out there read this thing? (by the way the coffee that came with it is really bad and the cup has his web site on it. not very nostalgic) SuperDave Morgan 4/4 /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Calvin Krug To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 16:19:23 +0000 Subject: spitfire parts fs As part of my new year's resolution to make better use of my finances, I've decided to sell off some parts. I have a almost completely disassembled '76 Spitfire 1500, so if anyone out there is in need of any parts, let me know. the car is located in Indiana, so keep this in mind if you're looking for something heavy or large. Contact me off-list with what you need. thanks. Calvin Krug -- this message created using 100% recycled electrons /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: John Donohoe To: lotus@se7ens.net, chapman-era@autox.team.net, vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 05:59:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: FS: Lotus Seven LSB 2325 Hello All, I have no financial interest in or knowledge of this car other than what you read below. Just thought I'd offer it up to those of you clever enough to be on these lists before listing it at SimpleSevens. Contact the seller at the email or phone number listed - I believe he's in the San Fransisco Bay area of California. Cheers, John Donohoe SimpleSevens.com From: "Jim & Judy Gallagher" To: Hi John, Pat Kelly just put me on to your web site. I put an ad in North American Pylon to sell my seven and she thought you might put it on your site. What everybody wants - a "seven in a basket". LSB 2325 SIII, bill of sale from Lotus/Norwich, California title (1967). Highly modified complete car with equipment from Tilton, Speedway, Aeroquip, Bean, JFZ, AP, Racing Beat. Comes with a 220 hp 13B Mazda rotary, pushrod front suspension, bright anodized aluminum panels and many spares. Weighs 925lb in race trim. Gorgeous but only somewhat original. Take it away "as is" for $6500. Jim Gallagher 801-277-1176 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: John Donohoe To: lotus@se7ens.net, chapman-era@autox.team.net, vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:09:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: FS: Lotus Seven LSB 2325 Mike, aren't you jumping to a conclusion here? If the car was 'famous' or even well known in its day, it seems to me that Mr Gallagher would have mentioned it in his ad. I've emailed back asking him to share some of the car's history. Until then, I wouldn't get too excited... he may well have had more than one car of similar spec along the way. Either way, I would tend to agree that $6,500 seems reasonable for a complete, if disassembled Seven. Of course my taste runs toward something a little more original but I'm sure someone will snap it up before too long. Cheers, John D. SimpleSevens --- Mike Causer wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2003 05:59:47 -0800 (PST) John > Donohoe forwarded: > > > What everybody wants - a "seven in a basket". LSB > 2325 SIII, bill of > > sale from Lotus/Norwich, California title (1967). > Highly modified > > complete car with equipment from Tilton, Speedway, > Aeroquip, Bean, > > JFZ, AP, Racing Beat. Comes with a 220 hp 13B > Mazda rotary, pushrod > > front suspension, bright anodized aluminum panels > and many spares. > > Weighs 925lb in race trim. Gorgeous but only > somewhat original. Take > > it away "as is" for $6500. Jim Gallagher > 801-277-1176 > > There are 6 photographs of this car in Dennis > Ortenbuger's book "Legend > of the Lotus Seven", and a page of description of > its history. > Presumably it's been standing for a while, but still > looks like a good > deal to me.... > > > Mike > -- > Mike Causer Email - > mailto:mikec@mikecauser.org > GPG KeyID 1C2DDA07 WWW - > http://www.mikecauser.org > Flood the fen again! - Wicken Fen enlargement - http://www.wicken.org.uk __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Mark J Bradakis To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:13:26 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: FS: Lotus Seven LSB 2325 Yes, this is the car that Jim brought back with him from England back in the late 60s. Jim is actually one of my brewing buddies here in Salt Lake City. Trust me, if I had $6500 to spend on cars this Lotus would be in my shop right now and not available for sale. It has been tweaked in various configurations for quite some time. I drove it at an autocross once or twice when it had a rotary in it, what a hoot! The car has been an autocross only car for quite some time, and a few years back Jim almost got a D Mod national title in it, but his fellow competitors, who seemed like such nice fellows during the season, hit him with a protest after the first day in Kansas about his car being too modified for the modified class. He moved a frame rail to fit the Cosworth motor in a better spot. That protest soured Jim on SCCA Solo for quite some time, though he did have the car out a few times last year. He's already sold the Cosworth motor, I think. Given the bare minimum brakes and light weight components and such, the car would not last long during a road race session with IVR out at Wendover. Jim would like to get something he can run out there with us, that may be one factor in his decision to sell. Hmmm, I may see Jim at brewing tonight, perhaps I'll try to talk him into an easy payment plan, or maybe throw a road race Spitfire into the deal. mjb. /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "" To: Triumphs@autox.team.net, vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 20:45:18 +0000 Subject: "Hay Bales & Asphalt" producer sought I need to get in touch with the guy who produced the "Haybales & Asphalt" video. Can anyone help me? Greg Petrolati Champaign, Illinois 1962 TR4 (CT4852L) That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: LMR356@aol.com To: greenman62@hotmail.com, Triumphs@autox.team.net, Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:27:37 EST Subject: Re: "Hay Bales & Asphalt" producer sought Hi Greg....You want to reach Clark Smith @ www.dnf.com/asphalt.html Lee Raskin Arnolt-Bristol, 356ers. Brooklandville, MD 21022 /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: To: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:45:25 -0800 Subject: RE: "Hay Bales & Asphalt" producer sought Hi Greg! The Producer's name is Clark Smith. He's a member of this list (or at least he was). He has a Porsche-powered Devin he was restoring. He resides up in the Northern Calif area (San Francisco Bay area as I recall). Perhaps he'll see this and reply. I did have his contact info at one time. Mike Savin -----Original Message----- From: ext [mailto:greenman62@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 12:45 PM To: Triumphs@autox.team.net; vintage-race@autox.team.net Subject: "Hay Bales & Asphalt" producer sought I need to get in touch with the guy who produced the "Haybales & Asphalt" video. Can anyone help me? Greg Petrolati Champaign, Illinois 1962 TR4 (CT4852L) That's not a leak... My car's just marking its territory... /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Mark J Bradakis To: vintage-race@autox.team.net, chapman-era@autox.team.net, lotus@se7ens.net, Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:33:56 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: Mark Bradakis You didn't read the article closely enough - I was only mentioned as the one who provided the email list in which the couple, Brad and Susan, first met, so to speak. mjb. /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Derek To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:49:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Shenandoah Circuit Herewith a link to the website I just did with a plan of the new Shenandoah track - "http://www.shen.homestead.com" Please note that this is based on info Bill Scott gave out last year and the final layout may have changed. (Sorry for the delay but the Homestead website seemed to have a hangover last week - or at least it gave me a headache!) Derek --- Derek wrote: > Are you sure there isn't any info on the Summit Point website? > I've got a surveyor's drawing which Bill Scott handed out > - I'll see if I can scan it and circulate it tomorrow. > Derek > > > --- JH Bahn wrote: > > The Shenandoah Circuit is under construction as we speak. It'll be > > ca. 2.2 miles. If the weather cooperates, the plan is for this > > summer. /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Patrick Caswell" To: "VTR List" , Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:59:19 -0800 Subject: 6 Blade fan for Triumph Sorry to bomb the list, I have an opportunity to get a 6 blade fan from a Healey 4. Does anyone know if this will mount on a Triumph Engine? I do not have My engine back from the machine shop so I can not test fit the fan. Thank you in advance, Patrick Caswell 1964 TR4 CT39227L Frame off restoration in progress /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "AH102" To: "Patrick Caswell" , "VTR List" Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:54:01 -0500 Subject: Re: 6 Blade fan for Triumph Patrick: The Healey 4 (austin Healey 100) has a four blade cast alloy fan. I think you would be better of with one of the multi-blade plastic fans. I'm sure some of the Triumph listers will have some good recommendations. Good Luck, Jim Healey Hundred ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Caswell" To: "VTR List" ; "Vintage-Race" ; "Triumph List" ; "FOT" Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:59 AM Subject: 6 Blade fan for Triumph > Sorry to bomb the list, > I have an opportunity to get a 6 blade fan from a Healey 4. Does anyone know > if this will mount on a Triumph Engine? I do not have My engine back from > the machine shop so I can not test fit the fan. > Thank you in advance, > > Patrick Caswell > 1964 TR4 > CT39227L > Frame off restoration in progress /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: WSpohn4@aol.com To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:41:56 EST Subject: Re: 6 Blade fan for Triumph > > I have an opportunity to get a 6 blade fan from a Healey 4. Does anyone > know > > if this will mount on a Triumph Engine? I do not have My engine back from > > the machine shop so I can not test fit the fan. > Can't you fit an electric fan (you only need it for pregrid anyway)? That lump of metal attached to the end of the crankshaft is a balancing nightmare and not all that efficient anyway. Bill (whose last TR3 had an electric fan and a crank extension that was truncated) /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "vintage-race" Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:51:15 -0600 Subject: CA to IL? Hey y'all, Anyone have some trailer space for a race bugeye,(running, currently with stock motor in place , so its drivable) that's heading east from southern CA to points east???? It has a top and side curtains, so either open or closed trailer will do... Or, conversely, anyone need a car delivered out west (in an enclosed trailer) from Chicago to LA if I need to make the trip? WST /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: , Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:44:55 -0600 Subject: Sprite hardtops Hey y'all, Any of you UK listers know a source for MKI Sprite (bugeye, frogeye) fastback hardtops... either original or reproduction? I see a fair amount of race cars running in various European Sprite race series to suggest someone must be reproducing them. WST /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "spridget list" , Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:24:46 -0600 Subject: bugete hardtops Hey y'all, Any of you UK listers know a source for MKI Sprite (bugeye, frogeye) fastback hardtops... either original or reproduction? Aftermarket, or works style. I see a fair amount of race cars running in various European Sprite race series to suggest someone must be reproducing them. WST /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Michael Frank To: "Wm. Severin Thompson" , Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:11:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Sprite hardtops Try Smoothline, http://www.smoothline.com/, 1 724-274-6002 Mike Frank At 11:44 AM 1/11/03, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: >Hey y'all, > >Any of you UK listers know a source for MKI Sprite (bugeye, frogeye) fastback >hardtops... either original or reproduction? /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: , Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:42:37 -0600 Subject: Re: Sprite hardtops I'm looking for a fastback style top...for a race car. Works, Speedwell, Ashley, etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Frank" To: "Wm. Severin Thompson" ; ; "spridget list" Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 2:11 PM Subject: Re: Sprite hardtops > Try Smoothline, http://www.smoothline.com/, 1 724-274-6002 > > Mike Frank > > At 11:44 AM 1/11/03, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: > >Hey y'all, > > > >Any of you UK listers know a source for MKI Sprite (bugeye, frogeye) fastback > >hardtops... either original or reproduction? /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Dave Franks To: vintage list Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:14:18 -0800 Subject: Oregon Vintage Events in 2003 Once again the SCCA's Oregon Region will include a vintage grid at every scheduled event. March 8,9 April 12,13 May 16,17,18 June 13,14,15 (The Rose Cup) July 4,5,6 August 16,17 September 27,28 In addition the Portland Historic Races are scheduled for July 11-13 and SOVREN has scheduled a Portland event over the labor day weekend. If you want to run Portland International Raceway, one of the Northwest's premiere tracks, you have plenty of opportunity this year. For more information check on the Oregon Region's vintage section of their web page at: http://oregonscca.com/vintage -------------------- Dave Franks franks@teleport.com /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Rich & Liz Stadther To: Vintage Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 18:41:53 -0600 Subject: Dulon Vintage Ford Listers, I recently purchased a Dulon LD9. The Monoposto site indicated it must be a 1970 to 72 car built in England. It was purchased through the BD Racing site a few years ago but the buyer died so any info was lost. I would appreciate any leads possible. Is there a source of info in England? Are there other Dulons in the States? I have a good quality, complete project with total unknown history. Anyone have ideas? Thanks. Rich Stadther /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Erichreich@aol.com To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:53:03 -0500 Subject: Moretti Barchetta 1955 Hello List Members. I was wondering in any list members who are familiar with the Moretti marquee would be willing to comment on the following car: http://www.classicscars.com/kit/morettibarchetta2/mmframe.html Does anyone have an opinion as to the original specifications of this car? My interest regarding this car are the vintage racing possibilities. I was wondering about the following items: 1. Does the body appear to be original? Or has it been re bodied? 2. The car currently has a fiat 1100cc motor, would this be acceptable for vintage racing in the US (CSRG, HMSA) 3. Any guess as to what this car might be worth? Any feedback at all would be greatly appreciated. Replies off-list are encouraged. Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Erich /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Tom and Sharon Shirley" To: "Vintage Racing List" , Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 20:02:18 -0500 Subject: My Bugeye Listed on eBay My Bugeye is now listed on eBay. See it at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2400352691 Tom Shirley /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "N" To: "Vintage Race Digest" Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:03:35 -0500 Subject: SU's Wanted - HD8's I'm looking for a pair of HD8 SU's. The 1-3/4" SU's are okay. But, I want to try the 2" on the Fab-Tek engine in the MGB this year. Anyone have a decent pair of them for sale or trade? Norm Sippel '66 MGB '59 Turner /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "John A. Rollins" To: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 06:13:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Vintage Corvette Al: I've cc'd the Corvette owners that I have in my SCCA Vintage participants database. As you will recall, to be eligible for the Florida Regions' SCCA Vintage in the vehicle must be pre '73 and prepared as it would have been to be raced in the year of manufacture. Other organizations like SVRA and VDCA who sponsor events in the southeast will want the same preparation level. HSR, on the other hand, will let you do almost anything to the car and will have a class for it. I think it's safe to say that if you prepare the car to SCCA's satisfaction it will be accepted by nearly all other organizations (assuming the accept cars as "new" as the one you find). Since you are looking for a 69-72 model, I've also posted this notice to the vintage-race list and anyone with information relating to Corvette preparation, those available for sale and meeting the above SCCA requirements in particular, may reply to Al directly. Good luck - let me know if I can help more. *8o) website: http://www.netcom.com./~nobozos/ ----- Original Message ----- From: AMCAPPY84@aol.com To: vintage@floridaregionscca.com Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:54 AM Subject: Vintage Corvette Hi John, Enjoyed our meeting and converstion with you last night. I 'm hoping you can provide me with a list of vintage eligible Corvettes and their owners. Also, do you have a contact phone, address, or e-mail for Robert Lubee? Many thanks. Al /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "David R. Mapes" To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:55:59 -0500 Subject: The Shenandoah Circuit Hi Folks, A buddy at work sent me the following two links that pertain to the new Shenandoah Circuit at Summit Point. Looks like I'm getting a FATT capable vehicle back just in time. Short description: http://www.se-r-list.org/new-archives/Week-of-Mon-20020429/005762.html Course map: http://www.pcapotomac.org/pca/html/shenandoah.shtml All the Best! Dave ;^) '66 Formula S Barracuda, CP/Vinatage (GoldFish) '66 C code Mustang Coup, CP (Ol'Beastly) '91 Sundance, HS (150,000 miles and counting) '97 Cherokee Lame Horse Racing College Park, MD http://www.erols.com/dmapes/ /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Derek To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 06:56:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: The Shenandoah Circuit I'm sure it's going to be a fine track in the Bill Scott tradition but compare the new track layout with the twisty bit of the original track shown on my web page - - "http://www.shen.homestead.com/mediummap.html" That bit of the old track is the slowest twistiest bit of any track I currently run on - and most of the new track seems to be twistier - and have abrupt dips/brows/adverse cambers etc. It may suit some drivers more than others. Derek --- David R. Mapes wrote: > A buddy at work sent me the following two > links that pertain to the new Shenandoah Circuit > at Summit Point. "http://www.se-r-list.org/new-archives/Week-of-Mon-20020429/005762.html" "http://www.pcapotomac.org/pca/html/shenandoah.shtml" /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Doug Meis To: Derek , Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 11:46:36 -0500 Subject: Re: The Shenandoah Circuit on 1/16/03 9:56 AM, Derek at dereklola@yahoo.com wrote: > That bit of the old track is the slowest twistiest bit of any track I > currently run on - and most of the new track seems to be twistier - and > have abrupt dips/brows/adverse cambers etc. It may suit some drivers > more than others. That jumped out at me as well. That would make it a VERY tight circuit that may not suit some of the big/fast cars at all. I am reserving judgment until the track is a reality and someone has had the chance to turn laps. -- Doug Meis /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: JH Bahn To: Doug Meis Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 20:04:06 -0500 Subject: Re: The Shenandoah Circuit The track will have several configurations- to accommodate karts to highspeed stuff.. It WILL be challenging . . . that's the idea! JH Bahn Doug Meis wrote: > on 1/16/03 9:56 AM, Derek at dereklola@yahoo.com wrote: > > That jumped out at me as well. That would make it a VERY tight circuit > that may not suit some of the big/fast cars at all. > I am reserving judgment until the track is a reality and someone has had > the chance to turn laps. /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Derek To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 19:15:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: ASP files Any computer experts out there. Tried to download couple of new software files tonight - in both cases the .exe files got saved as .exe.asp files. Trying to open them just gave me long unintelligible Wordpad files. Tried deleting the .asp designation but didn't help. What is an .asp file? How can I download software just as an .exe file? Change some setting or something? Thx - Derek /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Jim Hill" To: "Vintage-Race List" Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:30:24 -0600 Subject: Sad News - Ray McComb Shannon Murphy of the SCCA's Land O' Lakes region asked that the following message from Kathy Goettsch be forwarded to the Vintage Race group: AFTER A VERY LONG FIGHT WITH PARKINSONS, RAY MCCOMB, PASSED AWAY ON JAN 12 - RAY AND KARIN HAVE BEEN MEMBERS OF SCCA AND LOL FOR MANY MANY MANY YEARS. I BELIEVE RAY WAS A VINTAGE CLUB DRIVER BACK IN THE 60'S AND 70'S - KARIN WAS A REGISTRAR FOR UNTOLD YEARS. THE MPLS PAPER SAID "Memorial service Sat at 2 pm with a visitation one hour prior at Cremation Society of Mn 4343 Nicollet Ave S Mpls Memorials preferred to the Parkinson's Assoc. of Minnesota" Jim Hill Madison WI /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "ROGER DAVIS" To: Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:14:32 -0800 Subject: Webers and altitude Does anyone have a formula that can be used to "get close" to the proper jetting on Weber DCOE's when going from one altitude to another? [This message delayed, as it needed manual intervention by the list administrator. RealSoonNow I'll come up with some jetting guidelines. mjb.] /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Phil Buttolph To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 14:46:16 -0800 Subject: Custom Tie Rod Source Can anyone with a solid axle Corvette point me to a fabricator that will make a set for my 62' Corvette? Also interested in what it takes, plus pros and cons, for a conversion to Heim joints in lieu of ball joints.. Thanks...Phil::: Phillip Buttolph Diving Safety Officer Humboldt State University Arcata, CA 95521 (707) 826-4104 62' Sateen Silver Corvette "That isn't Duct or Duck Tape; it is Sateen Silver Racing Tape!" /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: WSpohn4@aol.com To: pb1@humboldt.edu, vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:09:34 EST Subject: Re: Custom Tie Rod Source In a message dated 1/18/03 2:45:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, pb1@humboldt.edu writes: > Also interested in what it takes, plus > pros and cons, for a conversion to Heim joints in lieu of ball joints.. > > Heims give accurate suspension motion, but wear out more frequently, even with the little rubber gaiters. OK for race only use, but not for race/street. Bill /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "vintage-race" Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:41:53 -0600 Subject: Chuck Shields Anyone have contact information on Chuck Shields? Thanks WST /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: John Donohoe To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:03:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Open Trailers at cost (not mine) Hi all, Anyone near Mid Michigan -- if you might need a trailer, the local dealer (Just north of Mason near corner of 127 and Cedar street) is getting out of the biz and selling his remaining stock at cost. Example - brand new BNM trailer (like this one http://www.bnmtrailersalesinc.com/utility-trailers/car-hauler-trailers.html) 1,500lb, dual 4" drop axle, electric brakes, hideaway ramps, 7,000 lb gvw normally $2,100 is available for $1,600. I think it's 12 ft and he's got a longer one as well. I didn't get his phone# but can run back down there tomorrow if anyone's interested. It's extremely tempting to me, but I still need a lighter trailer for the Seven. If you're upgrading, let me know about your old trailer! Cheers, John D. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Mike To: Vintage Race Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:05:15 -0800 Subject: query Listers, Anyone have email address for former driver Wayne Mitchell in San Diego? Thanks, Mike /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Mike To: Vintage Race Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 21:08:34 -0800 Subject: query Thanks everyone for the Mitchell contact address. He contacted me a short time ago. That's fast work! Mike /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "AH102" To: "Vintage Race" Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:11:47 -0500 Subject: This is a test. Please delete This is a test.... /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Derek To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:42:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Interesting Website Lee Chapman has just totally revamped his website - it's a must visit now - - "http://www.leechapmanracing.com" Don't fail to read some of his race reports! Derek /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "vintage-race" Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 15:09:16 -0600 Subject: Harold E. Ullrich obituary http://www.legacy.com/chicagotribune/LegacySubPage2.asp?Page=LifeStory&Person Id=750035 /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Ross Fosbender To: vintage-race@autox.team.net, wheeltowheel@wheeltowheel.com Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:56:18 -0600 Subject: Fw: News about Heartland Park and Blackhawk Farms Raceways Passing this along as received on the Midwestern Council mailing list. RossFos ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan" To: Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 5:39 PM Subject: FW: news about BFR.... > >From an e-mail I recieved today > (From the BVR SCCA ) > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 22:42:48 -0600 > >> > >> Hi everyone, > >> Well, as you were not at the BVR Business meeting you missed the big > >> announcement tonight that Ray Irwin has bought Heartland Park in Topeka. > >> The deal was finalized on Wednesday. Ray and Nancy are moving to Topeka. > >> Things will remain the same at Blackhawk and Eugene > >> Krause is taking over the management of Blackhawk. Auto Concepts is > >> staying at Blackhawk. The concession has also changed hands once again and > >> the new person is working to bring back some of the things we missed last > >> year. (Veggie wraps, ect) The track has been resurfaced and the concrete > >> corners are gone. they have widened the entrance to the willows, the pit > >> lane has been lengthened moving it back toward seven. The roads in the > >> track paddock to 1, 3, and tech have all been paved. The dip at drivers > >> left toward the air strip at 6 has been flattened as well as the one at > >> seven. > >> There is a social that everyone is invited to for BVR on March 15, 2003. > >> They are going to have some buses leave from Rockford and go to the > >> Mississippi Belle II for $3.00. It will include a prime rib dinner and > >> return at 6. More info in the next smoke signals. Also they are going to > >> do the Pig Roast at the tire wall day on March 29, 2003. Starts at 9:00 > >> with coffee and doughnuts. Then Roast at noon, and if a quorum the BVR > >> bylaw changes will be voted on. Hope to see and hear from you all. The > >> tire wall day would be a good day to see the changes at the track. The > >> afternoon they will have touring in street cars also. > >> Maria > >> > >> Any guesses where the runoffs will be moving to after the contract is out > >> at MidOhio??? > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Having problems with this mailing list? > Send e-mail to "listrequests@maxum.com" with the > command "info MC-Members" in the message body. /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "Bill Glanville" To: "MGVR" , Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 10:10:37 -0500 Subject: Starters for Spridgets Vintage racers, Now that I have my A series engine disassemled and see the wear & tear on the ring gear. I have to get some specifics about the Izuzu starter I have seen mentioned that will fit a Spridget A series engine. When I go to my local parts store they are going to ask what year and model Izuzu and the engine size. Can someone give me specifics on this question? Thanks Bill Glanville # 191 1962 MG Midget /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: JWoesvra@aol.com To: mgbill@mgcarclub.com Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 13:44:56 EST Subject: Re: Starters for Spridgets In a message dated 1/27/03 7:11:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, mgbill@mgcarclub.com writes: > When I go to my local parts store they are going to ask what year and model > Izuzu and the engine size. Can someone give me specifics on this question? > > Starters: ST-118/16270 Isuzu Trooper 6cyl. 1984-85 direct drive ST-324/16878 Isuzu Trooper 6 cyl 1986-94 reduction drive Jack Woehrle /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Dave Franks To: , vintage list , Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:06:13 -0800 Subject: NorPac Vintage Racing Series Announced NorPac Vintage Racing Series Announced It was announced at the Northern Pacific Division SCCA Convention in Reno, Nevada that a Vintage Series has been established. The schedule will be:  May 23-26 at the Northwest Region SCCA Memorial Day Double National Races at Pacific Raceways in Kent, Washington.  June 13-15 at the Oregon Region SCCA Rose Cup Regional-National Races event at Portland International Raceway in Portland, Oregon.  August 16-17 at the Oregon Region SCCA Regional Races event at Portland International Raceway in Portland, Oregon.  August 29-31 at the Team Continental Labor Day Weekend Races event at Thunderhill Park in Willows, California.  October 24-26 at the San Francisco Region SCCA Vintage Races event at Mazda Laguna Seca Raceway in Monterey, California. The NorPac Vintage Racing Series will provide an opportunity to race as part of a series that emphasizes participation over finishing position at the premier racing sites of the Northern Pacific Division - from Monterey to Seattle. The tracks involved are both historically significant and are also newly developed and updated. Keeping more cars and drivers active in sports car road racing over a longer period of time is recognized as vitally important to our sport. The NorPac Vintage Racing Series will utilize a common set of rules that support these philosophies. The four clubs involved wanted to get these dates announced early in the season so individual planning for event attendance could take place. Work is under way to finalize details for the series and that information will be available shortly. To get on entry mailing lists right away and for more information, you may contact: Dan Carchano, Northwest Region: Dan@waterfrontconstruction.com Dan Mullin, Oregon Region: danm356@yahoo.com Steve Leonard, Team Continental: info@crownautorental.com Bruce Goronsky, San Francisco Region: BAGoronsky@aol.com Dave Franks Oregon Region SCCA and NORPAC Vintage Series Pointskeeper franks@teleport.com /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Sam & Greg Scharnberg To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:25:42 -0600 Subject: Vintage Racing group at SCCA Regional Race? Good Morning: Missouri Valley Race Group is a partnership between two SCCA regions, Des Moines Valley Region and Nebraska Region. MVRG has two Regional/National events scheduled this year and also has a Double Regional weekend on October 4/5. These events are being held at the new Mid America Motorplex near Omaha. I would like to suggest to MVRG that we add a race group to the October event for vintage. At the fall vintage race at Road America it appears that every type of vehicle is allowed on the track at the same time so I'm thinking that one group will work. In order to understand if this is viable, I need more information. Is a one group race acceptable? How is licensing and membership handled? Must be SCCA member? Must have SCCA license? Is additional insurance required? Based on the variety of vehicles, is it appropriate to black flag for over aggressive driving? Must the cars meet current SCCA safety standards? Is there usually a Vintage Group involved such as VSCDA involved? Or is all of this just a dumb idea? I would really appreciate any feedback. Thanks, Greg Scharnberg Des Moines, IA At 10:06 PM 1/28/2003 -0800, Dave Franks wrote: >NorPac Vintage Racing Series Announced > > >It was announced at the Northern Pacific Division SCCA Convention in Reno, >Nevada that a Vintage Series has been established. The schedule will be: > >............. snip .................... > >The NorPac Vintage Racing Series will utilize a common set of rules that >support these philosophies. The four clubs involved wanted to get these >dates announced early in the season so individual planning for event >attendance could take place. Work is under way to finalize details for the >series and that information will be available shortly. > >To get on entry mailing lists right away and for more information, you may >contact: > >Dan Carchano, Northwest Region: Dan@waterfrontconstruction.com >Dan Mullin, Oregon Region: danm356@yahoo.com >Steve Leonard, Team Continental: info@crownautorental.com >Bruce Goronsky, San Francisco Region: BAGoronsky@aol.com > >Dave Franks >Oregon Region SCCA and NORPAC Vintage Series Pointskeeper >franks@teleport.com /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Derek To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 06:22:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: Prost Lauda Brands Hatch 1984 There's a very nice picture at "http://store.grandprix.com/store/images/Prost-Lauda_84_Brands.jpg" Could someone with a good memory tell me what is going on? Derek /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: JH Bahn To: vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 19:34:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Prost Lauda Brands Hatch 1984 Derek wrote: Could someone with a good memory tell me what is going on? Apparently, nothing! JH Bahn /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Ernest Husmann To: Derek , vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:57:51 -0600 Subject: Re: Prost Lauda Brands Hatch 1984 Okay, here are some possibilities: 1. They were conducting a fuel mileage comparison where you put a few gallons in the car and see which car goes farther on a specific type of fuel, or tires, or spark plug ... 2. They are practicing the new "Le Mans" style start which the FIA will soon make public. 3. They were in the hospitality bus when the red lights went out for the start of the race. None of these explains the two gents who appear to be running toward the cars on the left side of the frame. So who are the two gents on the left side of the frame? /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Pgtgt@aol.com To: derek@lola7.com, vintage-race@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:26:46 EST Subject: Re: Prost Lauda Brands Hatch 1984 Actually, I think they are just trying out the new remote steering controls.... /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: "N" To: "Jack Woehrle" , Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:24:34 -0500 Subject: WANTED - TWM Long Manifold for 45 DCOE on MGB HELP! I'm trying to find a TWM Induction (Goleta, CA) manifold to mount a Weber 45 DCOE on my MGB. TWM is out of their long (13cm) one. And, that is the one I'm looking for. Any help you can give leading to a new or used one will be appreciated. Thanks in advance to all. Norm Sippel '66 MGB '59 Turner /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race From vintage-race-owner@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 08:26:13 2003 From: Craig Wright To: vintage race net Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 14:54:25 -0800 Subject: Transport Hi, I need to transport a personal car from San Diego to Portland. An open trailer is fine. I have used intercity but they are enclosed (expensive) and not necessary for this car. Does anyone have any recommendations for a carrier? Not looking for the cheapest, just fair and reliable. Thanks, Craig Wright /// unsubscribe/change address requests to majordomo@autox.team.net or try /// http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo /// Archives at http://www.team.net/archive/vintage-race