From richardolindsay at gmail.com Mon Jul 1 07:20:49 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2019 08:20:49 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Introduction, new member Message-ID: Hello new Friends, I just joined your list and feel that it is only polite to introduce myself. My name is Rick Lindsay and I live in NW Houston, Texas. I am a geophysicist, now retired from oil and gas exploration, and a rabid sports car restorer. I have eleven cars, most of which were purchased dead. Four are British, four are Italian, two are German, and one is Japanese. The newest is already a decade old. Everything is now running, for once, except for a parts car. Most of the cars are restored exotics and/or classics. The projects d'jour are an '85 Maserati Biturbo E and a '75 TR6. The TR6 is getting a new fuel pump (on order) but otherwise, it is ready for paint. Hopefully that work - the paint - will start next week. The Maserati's story is best left for another time (and perhaps place). Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Thu Jul 4 22:48:52 2019 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Yahoo) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 04:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [6pack] Water Pump Advice References: <27649163.2029809.1562302132012.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <27649163.2029809.1562302132012@mail.yahoo.com> Replacing the water pump for the 1st time in 22 years owning my 73 TR6.? Have a new County brand pump on my shelf from a few years ago.? ?Are these pumps okay?Do you use RTV sealant, or is the supplied gasket enough?Can/should I have someone re-build my original pump for my new spare?? ?I have the pressed on pulley.Any tricks for what appears to be a straightforward replacement job? Cheers and thanks, Bruce Simms -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From janah at att.net Fri Jul 5 14:46:09 2019 From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 20:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [6pack] Water Pump Advice References: <1578674118.3366146.1562359569916.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1578674118.3366146.1562359569916@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Bruce- 1.) County Brand County Brand makes a number of replacement parts for our cars (Water Pumps, Clutch Master Cylinders, Pistons, etc.) .? It is not as though we have a wide choice of manufacturers, and in the absence of Stanpart, I think County is as good as any other manufacturer. I haven't heard any horror stories about them. 2.) The pump from your 73 is the "sealed bearing" type.? You don't need to lube these so they are pretty simple.? The bearings are available.? I think there is an article in an old 6-Pack Journal that describes how to rebuild these pumps. This is also pretty simple. There are 2 of these bearings.? They are a press fit into the housing.? The shaft is pressed through the bearings and housing, then the pulley is pressed on and the impeller.? What can go wrong?? Not much, but there are no stops. So you need to locate the shaft in the case bearings so that neither the impeller or the pulley interferes with the water pump housing. A little easier said than done, but it is doable.If you want to use your favorite gasket dressing (Hylomar, etc) you can.? Do you have to?? I don't think so but it helps keep the gasket in place while you are installing the pump. Upgrades.? The water pump body is cast iron and is a lot of dead weight. There is an alloy casting of the same pump body. It is more money but it is a weight savings.? I think ARE carried it in this country, and maybe some others (BPNW, TSI ?). If you want to race or you just spend more time in the pupper RPM range, the stock impeller is prone to cavitation.? I think these same vendors carry an impeller that has curved vanes like a true centrifugal pump. If money grows on trees, then these are nice options to consider.? A water wetting solution is nice thing for your cooling system and can help reduce driving temps a few degrees. Best Regards-John Cyg70 DamsonCC52927LO -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From colinthom at shaw.ca Mon Jul 8 08:50:57 2019 From: colinthom at shaw.ca (COLIN THOM) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2019 08:50:57 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [6pack] Water Pump Advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <157318667.126569937.1562597457073.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> Yes you need to use gasket cement. No, don't bother rebuilding your old pump. If you want a spare, buy a new replacement. They're cheap. Colin From: 6pack-request at autox.team.net To: 6pack at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 11:00:03 AM Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 54, Issue 2 Send 6pack mailing list submissions to 6pack at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 6pack-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at 6pack-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Water Pump Advice (Yahoo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 04:48:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Yahoo To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Water Pump Advice Message-ID: <27649163.2029809.1562302132012 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Replacing the water pump for the 1st time in 22 years owning my 73 TR6.? Have a new County brand pump on my shelf from a few years ago.? ?Are these pumps okay?Do you use RTV sealant, or is the supplied gasket enough?Can/should I have someone re-build my original pump for my new spare?? ?I have the pressed on pulley.Any tricks for what appears to be a straightforward replacement job? Cheers and thanks, Bruce Simms -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From tpdwinch at yahoo.com Sun Jul 14 13:54:20 2019 From: tpdwinch at yahoo.com (Dale Morgan) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 15:54:20 -0400 Subject: [6pack] car on eBay In-Reply-To: <002501d53a68$4d6d5bc0$e8481340$@uprichard.net> References: <002501d53a68$4d6d5bc0$e8481340$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: <37817099-3684-4235-B1C3-D8BDFB3F835D@yahoo.com> Andrew There were only about 68500 Tr 4. 4a?s produced. Though the body numbering did not match exactly the number of cars. If this is a correct body Id it would put it near the end of those produced. Only true way to find out would be to get a Heritage certificate. Dale Sent from my iPad > On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Andrew Uprichard via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Am I right in thinking there is no Triumph TR vin which could be 74333ct? A body number perhaps, but not a vin. > > There is a car on eBay (my favorite site ? not) variously described as a 1967 TR250 and a TR5 with a V8 conversion. > > What?s the consensus ? a TR4A ? > > Andrew Uprichard > Jackson, Michigan > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tpdwinch at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From auprichard at uprichard.net Sun Jul 14 14:08:54 2019 From: auprichard at uprichard.net (Andrew Uprichard) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 16:08:54 -0400 Subject: [6pack] car on eBay In-Reply-To: <37817099-3684-4235-B1C3-D8BDFB3F835D@yahoo.com> References: <002501d53a68$4d6d5bc0$e8481340$@uprichard.net> <37817099-3684-4235-B1C3-D8BDFB3F835D@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005d01d53a7f$f6e4b920$e4ae2b60$@uprichard.net> Thanks for all the replies ? nice to know so many are active on the chat page ! I have no interest whatsoever in this car, but I am always amazed at what sellers claim on eBay: the car is listed as a TR250, the Vin given by the seller is likely the body number of a TR4A and the description says it is a TR5 !! Andrew From: Dale Morgan [mailto:tpdwinch at yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 3:54 PM To: Andrew Uprichard Cc: Triumphs; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] car on eBay Andrew There were only about 68500 Tr 4. 4a?s produced. Though the body numbering did not match exactly the number of cars. If this is a correct body Id it would put it near the end of those produced. Only true way to find out would be to get a Heritage certificate. Dale Sent from my iPad On Jul 14, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Andrew Uprichard via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: Am I right in thinking there is no Triumph TR vin which could be 74333ct? A body number perhaps, but not a vin. There is a car on eBay (my favorite site ? not) variously described as a 1967 TR250 and a TR5 with a V8 conversion. What?s the consensus ? a TR4A ? Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tpdwinch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Sun Jul 14 14:23:17 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 15:23:17 -0500 Subject: [6pack] car on eBay In-Reply-To: References: <002501d53a68$4d6d5bc0$e8481340$@uprichard.net> <37817099-3684-4235-B1C3-D8BDFB3F835D@yahoo.com> <005d01d53a7f$f6e4b920$e4ae2b60$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: > ...nice to know so many are active on the chat page ! I agree completely! I joined this list a few months ago and have since felt that it was dormant. Its nice to be wrong! My TR6 project is completely rebuilt mechanically, stripped and waiting to go for new paint. While I wait for a few more coins to build up, I am enjoying my other cars. Rick, in Houston > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From auprichard at uprichard.net Sun Jul 14 16:30:43 2019 From: auprichard at uprichard.net (Andrew Uprichard) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 18:30:43 -0400 Subject: [6pack] car on eBay In-Reply-To: References: <002501d53a68$4d6d5bc0$e8481340$@uprichard.net> <37817099-3684-4235-B1C3-D8BDFB3F835D@yahoo.com> <005d01d53a7f$f6e4b920$e4ae2b60$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: <008a01d53a93$c6bebc50$543c34f0$@uprichard.net> Just say something outrageous, like ?I am going to restore my TR250, only not to originality? ? that?ll wake them up !! Andrew From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Lindsay via 6pack Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:23 PM To: 6pack Subject: Re: [6pack] car on eBay > ...nice to know so many are active on the chat page ! I agree completely! I joined this list a few months ago and have since felt that it was dormant. Its nice to be wrong! My TR6 project is completely rebuilt mechanically, stripped and waiting to go for new paint. While I wait for a few more coins to build up, I am enjoying my other cars. Rick, in Houston -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Sun Jul 14 16:40:26 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 17:40:26 -0500 Subject: [6pack] car on eBay In-Reply-To: <008a01d53a93$c6bebc50$543c34f0$@uprichard.net> References: <002501d53a68$4d6d5bc0$e8481340$@uprichard.net> <37817099-3684-4235-B1C3-D8BDFB3F835D@yahoo.com> <005d01d53a7f$f6e4b920$e4ae2b60$@uprichard.net> <008a01d53a93$c6bebc50$543c34f0$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: I love how some folks call resto-mods 'restoration'. With all 11 of my cars, I try to stick to the 'Make no irreversible changes.' credo. My TR6 is 'restored' except for wheels, electric fuel pump, and re-veneered dashboard. Rick On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 5:30 PM Andrew Uprichard wrote: > Just say something outrageous, like ?I am going to restore my TR250, only > not to originality? ? that?ll wake them up !! > > Andrew > > > > *From:* 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Richard > Lindsay via 6pack > *Sent:* Sunday, July 14, 2019 4:23 PM > *To:* 6pack > *Subject:* Re: [6pack] car on eBay > > > > > ...nice to know so many are active on the chat page ! > > I agree completely! I joined this list a few months ago and have since > felt that it was dormant. Its nice to be wrong! > > My TR6 project is completely rebuilt mechanically, stripped and waiting > to go for new paint. While I wait for a few more coins to build up, I am > enjoying my other cars. > > > > Rick, in Houston > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From im_sloane at hotmail.com Sun Jul 14 20:26:16 2019 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 02:26:16 +0000 Subject: [6pack] car on eBay In-Reply-To: References: <002501d53a68$4d6d5bc0$e8481340$@uprichard.net> <37817099-3684-4235-B1C3-D8BDFB3F835D@yahoo.com> <005d01d53a7f$f6e4b920$e4ae2b60$@uprichard.net> <008a01d53a93$c6bebc50$543c34f0$@uprichard.net>, Message-ID: This list is like an old friend that you don't hear from often, but still respect and admire. Someone at an event once showed me how to tell if a TR4 was being passed off as a TR5/250. The front wheel hump on the passenger (USA) side of the TR5/250 has the same indention for the duel carbs as a TR6 does. While a TR4 has smooth humps on both sides. The rare 5/250s are worth so much more, it's tempting to combine a 4's body and and 6's engine to 'create' one. NFI, Sloane :) 69-Six 73-Spit (currently dead due to thrown rod - oil filter fell off) ________________________________ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2019 10:40 PM To: 6pack Subject: Re: [6pack] car on eBay I love how some folks call resto-mods 'restoration'. With all 11 of my cars, I try to stick to the 'Make no irreversible changes.' credo. My TR6 is 'restored' except for wheels, electric fuel pump, and re-veneered dashboard. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sun, Jul 14, 2019, 3:09 PM Andrew Uprichard via 6pack < 6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > Thanks for all the replies ? nice to know so many are active on the chat > page ! > > I have no interest whatsoever in this car, but I am always amazed at what > sellers claim on eBay: the car is listed as a TR250, the Vin given by the > seller is likely the body number of a TR4A and the description says it is a > TR5 !! > > Andrew > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Mon Jul 15 20:00:35 2019 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 20:00:35 -0600 Subject: [6pack] List notes In-Reply-To: References: <002501d53a68$4d6d5bc0$e8481340$@uprichard.net> <37817099-3684-4235-B1C3-D8BDFB3F835D@yahoo.com> <005d01d53a7f$f6e4b920$e4ae2b60$@uprichard.net> <008a01d53a93$c6bebc50$543c34f0$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: <132f6c28-7384-b740-b212-c95c632b6392@bradakis.com> On 7/14/19 8:26 PM, im sloane via 6pack wrote: > This list is like an old friend that? you don't hear from often, but > still respect and admire. > Yes, not one of the more popular lists.? I've been pruning down the list of lists at team.net, dropping ones that have seen no traffic for at least a year.? It is currently down to just under 40, from a max of close to 70.? Check out http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo to see which are still active.? Bacl when team.net was one of the only choices, some of the busy lists would see over 100 posts a day, sometimes the autocross list would see several thousand in August, the month before SCCA Solo II Nationals.? When I attended that eveni in 1997 with the Killer? Spit, something like 70% of the 1,100 entrants were subscribed to the the autocross list here.? But now everybody and his dog has some web site, forum, whatever on line, many choices.? But team.net is still on the air, hope to keep it that way for years to come. The three busiest lists currently are probably healeys, spridgets and triumphs.? There should be a link at the bottom of each message, or near the top if you get the digest, that points to the archives, one can check out traffic on other lists there. Basically, the more people that use the list, the more people use that list.??? Kind of a strange sentence, but I think you know what I mean. Anyway, I can't really do anything about making lists more popular, all I can do is keep the system up and running, available for those who wish to make use of it and appreciate what a resource it is. mjb. From richardolindsay at gmail.com Sat Jul 20 18:09:36 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:09:36 -0500 Subject: [6pack] An update Message-ID: Hello Friends, Today I completed a job on my '75 TR6 project. The new mechanical fuel pump supplied by that company that 'doesn't grow on a rolling stone', failed. Of course, that was no fault of theirs. I just decided to convert the fuel supply to electric, just as I did on my TR3b. As I began that last parahraph, I replaced the OEM pump with a Facet 476087E solid state pump. That unit makes 4-5.5psi. Just right for a pair of Z-S carbs. I fashioned an adapter plate from sheet aluminum that covers the port on the engine. It then extends up to the right to hold the new pump. I placed a gasket between the adapter and the block thereby sealing the block. I placed an inline filter between the fuel line and the pump's intake port. All of that is 5/16" id plumbing. The pipe up to the carbs is about 1/4" od so I bought a replacement fitting for the pump's output. Once plumbed, all that remained to do was wire the pump. Fortunately the fuse block has a spare fuse location. I used that option to power the new pump. I will later add a relay using the original switched power to activate the relay, so as to keep the pump's current load off of the ignition switch. Long story only slightly longer; The pump works great. There are no leaks. And the car now starts and runs great. Its now ready to head off to the painter. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lfm614 at aol.com Sun Jul 21 13:37:27 2019 From: lfm614 at aol.com (Luis) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 14:37:27 -0500 Subject: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 54, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <22A88BC8-73E0-4FB8-B04D-E544DBCE2F21@aol.com> Nice. You might want to add an inertia switch in series to turn off power to the pump in case of an accident. The mechanical stops with the engine, the electrical won?t. > On Jul 21, 2019, at 1:00 PM, 6pack-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > Send 6pack mailing list submissions to > 6pack at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > 6pack-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > 6pack-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. An update (Richard Lindsay) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:09:36 -0500 > From: Richard Lindsay > To: 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > Subject: [6pack] An update > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello Friends, > Today I completed a job on my '75 TR6 project. The new mechanical fuel > pump supplied by that company that 'doesn't grow on a rolling stone', > failed. Of course, that was no fault of theirs. I just decided to convert > the fuel supply to electric, just as I did on my TR3b. > As I began that last parahraph, I replaced the OEM pump with a Facet > 476087E solid state pump. That unit makes 4-5.5psi. Just right for a pair > of Z-S carbs. > I fashioned an adapter plate from sheet aluminum that covers the port on > the engine. It then extends up to the right to hold the new pump. I placed > a gasket between the adapter and the block thereby sealing the block. > I placed an inline filter between the fuel line and the pump's intake > port. All of that is 5/16" id plumbing. The pipe up to the carbs is about > 1/4" od so I bought a replacement fitting for the pump's output. Once > plumbed, all that remained to do was wire the pump. > Fortunately the fuse block has a spare fuse location. I used that option > to power the new pump. I will later add a relay using the original switched > power to activate the relay, so as to keep the pump's current load off of > the ignition switch. > Long story only slightly longer; The pump works great. There are no > leaks. And the car now starts and runs great. Its now ready to head off to > the painter. > > Rick > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > 6pack mailing list > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > ------------------------------ > > End of 6pack Digest, Vol 54, Issue 9 > ************************************ From grglmn at gmail.com Sun Jul 21 22:51:31 2019 From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 23:51:31 -0500 Subject: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 54, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: <22A88BC8-73E0-4FB8-B04D-E544DBCE2F21@aol.com> References: <22A88BC8-73E0-4FB8-B04D-E544DBCE2F21@aol.com> Message-ID: I remember my first experience with an inertia switch. Had a 79 MGB, I think it dropped off a jack, no damage, but wouldn't start after. Eventually I read up and found the inertia switch, having always owned 60s MGs, TRs and Healeys before that, I didn't even know it was a thing. In the Healey and MG world a lot of armchair and actual mechanic time is spent trying to make the electric fuel pump reliably go. I guess now we have to figure out how to make it stop too. Actually the inertia switch isn't a bad idea, though as noted the earlier British sports didn't have them, don't know when MG started, maybe 74, when a lot of the federal safety standards kicked in? Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Jul 21, 2019, 2:39 PM Luis via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > Nice. You might want to add an inertia switch in series to turn off power > to the pump in case of an accident. The mechanical stops with the engine, > the electrical won?t. > > > On Jul 21, 2019, at 1:00 PM, 6pack-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > > > Send 6pack mailing list submissions to > > 6pack at autox.team.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > 6pack-request at autox.team.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > 6pack-owner at autox.team.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. An update (Richard Lindsay) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:09:36 -0500 > > From: Richard Lindsay > > To: 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > > Subject: [6pack] An update > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Hello Friends, > > Today I completed a job on my '75 TR6 project. The new mechanical fuel > > pump supplied by that company that 'doesn't grow on a rolling stone', > > failed. Of course, that was no fault of theirs. I just decided to convert > > the fuel supply to electric, just as I did on my TR3b. > > As I began that last parahraph, I replaced the OEM pump with a Facet > > 476087E solid state pump. That unit makes 4-5.5psi. Just right for a pair > > of Z-S carbs. > > I fashioned an adapter plate from sheet aluminum that covers the port > on > > the engine. It then extends up to the right to hold the new pump. I > placed > > a gasket between the adapter and the block thereby sealing the block. > > I placed an inline filter between the fuel line and the pump's intake > > port. All of that is 5/16" id plumbing. The pipe up to the carbs is about > > 1/4" od so I bought a replacement fitting for the pump's output. Once > > plumbed, all that remained to do was wire the pump. > > Fortunately the fuse block has a spare fuse location. I used that > option > > to power the new pump. I will later add a relay using the original > switched > > power to activate the relay, so as to keep the pump's current load off of > > the ignition switch. > > Long story only slightly longer; The pump works great. There are no > > leaks. And the car now starts and runs great. 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URL: From stan at redtr6.com Mon Jul 22 07:15:31 2019 From: stan at redtr6.com (Stan Foster) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 13:15:31 +0000 Subject: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 54, Issue 9 In-Reply-To: References: <22A88BC8-73E0-4FB8-B04D-E544DBCE2F21@aol.com> Message-ID: The TR6 PI always had an inertia switch mounted vertically on the bulkhead. It has a handy pull up plunger so you can cut the ignition while under the bonnet if you need to. Stan From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Greg Lemon via 6pack Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 12:52 AM To: Luis Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 54, Issue 9 I remember my first experience with an inertia switch. Had a 79 MGB, I think it dropped off a jack, no damage, but wouldn't start after. Eventually I read up and found the inertia switch, having always owned 60s MGs, TRs and Healeys before that, I didn't even know it was a thing. In the Healey and MG world a lot of armchair and actual mechanic time is spent trying to make the electric fuel pump reliably go. I guess now we have to figure out how to make it stop too. Actually the inertia switch isn't a bad idea, though as noted the earlier British sports didn't have them, don't know when MG started, maybe 74, when a lot of the federal safety standards kicked in? Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Jul 21, 2019, 2:39 PM Luis via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: Nice. You might want to add an inertia switch in series to turn off power to the pump in case of an accident. The mechanical stops with the engine, the electrical won?t. > On Jul 21, 2019, at 1:00 PM, 6pack-request at autox.team.net wrote: > > Send 6pack mailing list submissions to > 6pack at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > 6pack-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > 6pack-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. An update (Richard Lindsay) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 19:09:36 -0500 > From: Richard Lindsay > > To: 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > Subject: [6pack] An update > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello Friends, > Today I completed a job on my '75 TR6 project. The new mechanical fuel > pump supplied by that company that 'doesn't grow on a rolling stone', > failed. Of course, that was no fault of theirs. I just decided to convert > the fuel supply to electric, just as I did on my TR3b. > As I began that last parahraph, I replaced the OEM pump with a Facet > 476087E solid state pump. That unit makes 4-5.5psi. Just right for a pair > of Z-S carbs. > I fashioned an adapter plate from sheet aluminum that covers the port on > the engine. It then extends up to the right to hold the new pump. I placed > a gasket between the adapter and the block thereby sealing the block. > I placed an inline filter between the fuel line and the pump's intake > port. All of that is 5/16" id plumbing. The pipe up to the carbs is about > 1/4" od so I bought a replacement fitting for the pump's output. Once > plumbed, all that remained to do was wire the pump. > Fortunately the fuse block has a spare fuse location. I used that option > to power the new pump. I will later add a relay using the original switched > power to activate the relay, so as to keep the pump's current load off of > the ignition switch. > Long story only slightly longer; The pump works great. There are no > leaks. And the car now starts and runs great. 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URL: From lee at automate-it.com Tue Jul 23 00:03:03 2019 From: lee at automate-it.com (Lee Daniels) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2019 01:03:03 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Keys In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <60a9af2100712c6401ee005b089df934.squirrel@automate-it.com> Hi Rick, I think you want to contact Pete Groh at "British Car Keys". See http://www.britishcarkeys.com He used to occasionally post to the british car email lists but I haven't seen anything from him in a long time. But the web site is still active so someone is paying the web-hosting bill. The web site has email and phone number for Pete. Cheers, Lee On Mon, July 22, 2019 06:38, Richard Lindsay via 6pack wrote: > Hello Friends, > I have a '75 TR6 in fantastic condition, except for paint. Before > sending it to the painter I would like to get a second ignition key. However, > the hardware store guys can't cut a working key, even from my known correct > key blanks. Its the unequal 'shoulders', polarized format, and offset pins > that throws them. I guess I'm going to have to go to an old fashioned > locksmith to have the keys cut. Any suggestions? Have you faced this problem? > > > Rick From richardolindsay at gmail.com Wed Jul 24 07:34:24 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 08:34:24 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Bumpers Message-ID: Quick question: Will earlier all chrome bumpers fit on a '75 TR6 once the rubber boobs version is removed? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bumpers (Richard Lindsay) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 08:34:24 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: [6pack] Bumpers Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Quick question: Will earlier all chrome bumpers fit on a '75 TR6 once the rubber boobs version is removed? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ 6pack mailing list 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack ------------------------------ End of 6pack Digest, Vol 54, Issue 12 ************************************* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jattr6 at hotmail.com Wed Jul 24 17:52:42 2019 From: jattr6 at hotmail.com (James_) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 23:52:42 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Bumpers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The early bumpers are designed different when it comes to the mounting studs. I have a 76 and bought the only rear bumper available, which was an early center section. It didn?t fit. I had to sell it to a friend with an early model. I suspect the front doesn?t either. Regardless of the overriders. > On Jul 24, 2019, at 6:35 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Quick question: Will earlier all chrome bumpers fit on a '75 TR6 once the rubber boobs version is removed? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/jattr6 at hotmail.com > From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Thu Jul 25 10:49:38 2019 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Yahoo) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 16:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [6pack] Moss Fuel Pump References: <249062256.260834.1564073378159.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <249062256.260834.1564073378159@mail.yahoo.com> Yes, agreed this Chinese made fuel pump is a PofC.? ?While visually similar to an original AC, the internals aren't, and i understood why it failed me.Rebuilt the original with TRF kit and all has been well again for a number of years.? I've heard the European made ones are true replicas and are reliable.Cheers, Bruce Simms -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Thu Jul 25 11:31:25 2019 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Yahoo) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 17:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [6pack] Water pump Replacement Experience References: <1843962544.642790.1564075885742.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1843962544.642790.1564075885742@mail.yahoo.com> Replaced the leaky original with a Country brand one made in India, and all seems well.? ?Visually similar to original.? With rad cap off to burp the system, I can see good speed of coolant circulation.? Original was StanPart/RHP.? Thin layer of Permatex Ultimate Gray on both sides of paper gasket.? ? A good technique for the tight space was to offer the nut up to the stud with an extendable magnetic pickup and then get the first few threads with a screwdriver on the side of the nut.? ? I had a hard time finding an original dimension stud so ended up cutting a longer one down on the bench grinder and using a coarse thread nut on the pump side.Agree that a modern 5 vane curved impeller is more effective.? ?Understand The Flying Dutchman adds this on a pump overhaul.? ?Wonder what he uses.A friend has access to a press and we might try to rebuild the original.? ? I'm told you can likely match the bearing and seal if you bring the old ones?into a bearing supplier.I'm not completely taken with the durability of the green replica rubber? hoses.? Used a new Gates brand hose for bottom rad hoses.? ?The parts guy at a better automotive supplier went out back and found a hose that matched the curve and diameter.? ?Cut it into the two needed lengths. Cheers, Bruce Simms 73TR6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I had to sell it to a friend with an early > model. > I suspect the front doesn?t either. > Regardless of the overriders. > > > > > On Jul 24, 2019, at 6:35 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack < > 6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > Quick question: Will earlier all chrome bumpers fit on a '75 TR6 once > the rubber boobs version is removed? > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > 6pack at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/jattr6 at hotmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/bobfabie at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Thu Jul 25 12:34:15 2019 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:34:15 -0500 Subject: [6pack] FW: Water pump Replacement Experience In-Reply-To: <1843962544.642790.1564075885742@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1843962544.642790.1564075885742.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1843962544.642790.1564075885742@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002c01d54317$9063dc30$b12b9490$@ranteer.com> I know this pump is EXTREMELY expensive, but I really think its worth it. I was not going to buy it, but the wife and I were heading out on a long trip and she said ?just do it.? we have a 72, with the needles pointing down. The needle went from typically pointing to about the 7 position on a clock to about the 5 position. We also installed the aluminum housing. So saved about 6 pounds, which I know is pretty pointless. Changing from steel to billet aluminum also has some horsepower gains (also probably small) http://www.racetorations.co.uk/triumph-c56/tr5-tr250-c7/tr5-engine-c17/racetorations-lightweight-water-pump-and-pulley-billet-6-cylinder-p795 if it tells you anything, I?m going to get one for my TR4. From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Yahoo via 6pack Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2019 12:31 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Water pump Replacement Experience Replaced the leaky original with a Country brand one made in India, and all seems well. Visually similar to original. With rad cap off to burp the system, I can see good speed of coolant circulation. Original was StanPart/RHP. Thin layer of Permatex Ultimate Gray on both sides of paper gasket. A good technique for the tight space was to offer the nut up to the stud with an extendable magnetic pickup and then get the first few threads with a screwdriver on the side of the nut. I had a hard time finding an original dimension stud so ended up cutting a longer one down on the bench grinder and using a coarse thread nut on the pump side. Agree that a modern 5 vane curved impeller is more effective. Understand The Flying Dutchman adds this on a pump overhaul. Wonder what he uses. A friend has access to a press and we might try to rebuild the original. I'm told you can likely match the bearing and seal if you bring the old ones into a bearing supplier. I'm not completely taken with the durability of the green replica rubber hoses. Used a new Gates brand hose for bottom rad hoses. The parts guy at a better automotive supplier went out back and found a hose that matched the curve and diameter. Cut it into the two needed lengths. Cheers, Bruce Simms 73TR6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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I luckily found a great center section for a late model car, had it rechromed and did not mount the overriders. And as Bob described, I added a shim to help. ?Sent from my Atari 2600? On Jul 25, 2019, at 10:52 AM, rmf3860 rmf3860 > wrote: Once you remove the rubber bumperettes , the same bumper will fit BUT you have to make two ~1/2? blocks to go between the frame and the bumper attachment points. Pretty invisible modification. Bob Fabie On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 4:53 PM James_ via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: The early bumpers are designed different when it comes to the mounting studs. I have a 76 and bought the only rear bumper available, which was an early center section. It didn?t fit. I had to sell it to a friend with an early model. I suspect the front doesn?t either. Regardless of the overriders. > On Jul 24, 2019, at 6:35 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Quick question: Will earlier all chrome bumpers fit on a '75 TR6 once the rubber boobs version is removed? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/jattr6 at hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/bobfabie at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Fri Jul 26 06:00:58 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 07:00:58 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Almost... Message-ID: Hello friends, My TR6 is almost ready to go for Carmine Red paint. I still need to remove the door locks from the outer door skins, and re-bleed the brakes. When installing a new master cylinder my always helpful grandson assisted. And as we all know, six-year-old boys don't do anything slowly or half-way. Before I could stop him, Kelum slammed the brake pedal to the floor, flipping the new rubber seal in the master cylinder's rear circuit. That was a few days ago. I now have a new master cylinder installed (Yes, the old one could have been rebuilt.) and refilled with fresh brake fluid. I hope to get the brakes re-bled this weekend, the door locks/cylinders off, and a trailer reserved to transport the car to the painter. Woohoo! I will then just need to wait for a dry day. 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I have a professionally rebuilt MC (by Apple Hydraulics) that appears to be leaking and that goes almost to the bottom before the brakes finally "do their thing". Also, it makes a croaking sound like a sick frog! I'm loath to suspect Apple in tis because of their reputation for many years of quality rebuilds, but there is been very few miles put on the MC since I got it back - a couple of years, yeah, but no miles (you all know what that means...). Why did you opt for a new one and not rebuild it yourself? > On July 26, 2019 at 8:00 AM Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Hello friends, > My TR6 is almost ready to go for Carmine Red paint. I still need to remove the door locks from the outer door skins, and re-bleed the brakes. > When installing a new master cylinder my always helpful grandson assisted. And as we all know, six-year-old boys don't do anything slowly or half-way. Before I could stop him, Kelum slammed the brake pedal to the floor, flipping the new rubber seal in the master cylinder's rear circuit. That was a few days ago. > I now have a new master cylinder installed (Yes, the old one could have been rebuilt.) and refilled with fresh brake fluid. I hope to get the brakes re-bled this weekend, the door locks/cylinders off, and a trailer reserved to transport the car to the painter. Woohoo! I will then just need to wait for a dry day. > > Rick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/pdqtr6 at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From janah at att.net Fri Jul 26 13:45:42 2019 From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [6pack] Options Message-ID: <66871669.7328141.1564170342074@mail.yahoo.com> There were very few factory options for the TR6. The overdive was probably the most well known option and it was called out on the commission number tag with the suffix being "LO" or "UO" for the NA spec cars. The York air conditioning units were a factory sanctioned option (did not void the warranty) but were dealer installed. The Metal Hardtop was a factory option but could also be purchased from the dealer after sale as a kit. Tires Michelin or Good Year were fitted at the factory and the Michelins were treated as an option but I am bit sure how the dealers handled this one. All of the other stuff (Hardtops, soft tops, lighters, shift knobs, ski racks, luggage racks, etc) were pretty much aftermarket, a lot of it being from a company called AMCO. John Cyg 70 Damson CC52927 LO From davedenson at cox.net Fri Jul 26 15:01:27 2019 From: davedenson at cox.net (DAVE DENSON) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 16:01:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [6pack] Originality question... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <568114899.9387.1564174887751@myemail.cox.net> Mine was dealer installed. Dave > On July 26, 2019 at 9:08 AM Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Was the chrome luggage rack often found on the U.S. spec cars' boot lids, a factory installed option, a dealer installed option, or something aftermarket? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/davedenson at cox.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From emanteno at comcast.net Fri Jul 26 08:17:06 2019 From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 09:17:06 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Originality question... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 9:09 AM Richard Lindsay via 6pack < 6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > Was the chrome luggage rack often found on the U.S. spec cars' boot lids, > a factory installed option, a dealer installed option, or something > aftermarket? > > Dealer installed, or aftermarket. Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jattr6 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 26 16:56:25 2019 From: jattr6 at hotmail.com (James_) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 22:56:25 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Options In-Reply-To: <66871669.7328141.1564170342074@mail.yahoo.com> References: <66871669.7328141.1564170342074@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for this list. Something I have never seen but actually own one myself is a TR6 ski rack! I even put it to use! I?ve thought if I go to a car show sometime I?d mount it just to be different. I wish I had OD and AC would be nice too. > On Jul 26, 2019, at 12:46 PM, John Cyganowski via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > There were very few factory options for the TR6. The overdive was probably the most well known option and it was called out on the commission number tag with the suffix being "LO" or "UO" for the NA spec cars. The York air conditioning units were a factory sanctioned option (did not void the warranty) but were dealer installed. The Metal Hardtop was a factory option but could also be purchased from the dealer after sale as a kit. Tires Michelin or Good Year were fitted at the factory and the Michelins were treated as an option but I am bit sure how the dealers handled this one. > > All of the other stuff (Hardtops, soft tops, lighters, shift knobs, ski racks, luggage racks, etc) were pretty much aftermarket, a lot of it being from a company called AMCO. > > John Cyg > 70 Damson > CC52927 LO > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/jattr6 at hotmail.com > From richardolindsay at gmail.com Sat Jul 27 06:08:09 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 07:08:09 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Saturday Message-ID: Hello Friends, Its Saturday again here on America's south coast. Another fun day is beginning. This one is dedicated to the TR6. I had intended to take my TR6 to the painter on Monday but the weather forecast has changed my mind. Instead, I am addressing an issue that I had originally intended to save for after paint. Specifically, brakes. While bleeding the all-new brakes a few months ago, my grandson over extended the piston in the brake master cylinder. Doing so damaged the rear brake circuit part of the MC. My car now has a new MC installed and we are ready to bleed the system again. This time I am placing a 2x6 board in the pedal box thereby limiting the pedal/MC piston throw. My junior mechanic - six-year-old grandson Kelum - is helping me again today. Yea, the same guy with the offending lead foot, but this time he's helping with the jack, jack stands, lug wrench, and wheel removal. Its going to be a fun, hot, dirty morning. Can't wait. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrochlin at comcast.net Sat Jul 27 06:23:03 2019 From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 08:23:03 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Almost... In-Reply-To: <948973951.608390.1564164796280@connect.xfinity.com> References: <948973951.608390.1564164796280@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: I?ve not had good luck with Apple Hydraulics rebuilds. Nice people though. Best, Bob ?72 TR6 > On Jul 26, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Tom Walling via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Tell me more about the master cylinder... What do you mean by "flipping the new rubber seal in the master cylinder's rear circuit"? I have a professionally rebuilt MC (by Apple Hydraulics) that appears to be leaking and that goes almost to the bottom before the brakes finally "do their thing". Also, it makes a croaking sound like a sick frog! I'm loath to suspect Apple in tis because of their reputation for many years of quality rebuilds, but there is been very few miles put on the MC since I got it back - a couple of years, yeah, but no miles (you all know what that means...). > > > > Why did you opt for a new one and not rebuild it yourself? > >> On July 26, 2019 at 8:00 AM Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Hello friends, >> My TR6 is almost ready to go for Carmine Red paint. I still need to remove the door locks from the outer door skins, and re-bleed the brakes. >> When installing a new master cylinder my always helpful grandson assisted. And as we all know, six-year-old boys don't do anything slowly or half-way. Before I could stop him, Kelum slammed the brake pedal to the floor, flipping the new rubber seal in the master cylinder's rear circuit. That was a few days ago. >> I now have a new master cylinder installed (Yes, the old one could have been rebuilt.) and refilled with fresh brake fluid. I hope to get the brakes re-bled this weekend, the door locks/cylinders off, and a trailer reserved to transport the car to the painter. Woohoo! I will then just need to wait for a dry day. >> >> Rick >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> >> 6pack at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/pdqtr6 at comcast.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/rrochlin at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rgperry at earthlink.net Sat Jul 27 07:58:58 2019 From: rgperry at earthlink.net (Robert Perry) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 08:58:58 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [6pack] Almost... Message-ID: <1666323463.1061.1564235938831@wamui-cinderella.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Sat Jul 27 17:00:57 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:00:57 -0500 Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: Hello Friends, This morning, with your advice and my grandson's help, I removed the door locks from the TR6 door skins. The lock assemblies have since been cleaned, inside and out. The chrome finish isn't concours perfect but the locks work well and will look fine when installed with a new black sealing gasket. Thanks, friends, for your help. Further to the TR6 brakes issue; I have decided to remove and rebuild the brake failure switch and fluid distribution block. That is the workplan for tomorrow morning. I'll post links to pictures of the locks and switch assembly tomorrow. Rick On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 10:56 AM Richard Lindsay wrote: Also took the door lock cylinders off of the doors today. I'll clean and prep them for installation after paint. I already have the rubber seals to waterproof the locks. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rgperry at earthlink.net Sat Jul 27 09:08:04 2019 From: rgperry at earthlink.net (Robert Perry) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 10:08:04 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [6pack] Almost... Message-ID: <1980295583.1652.1564240084944@wamui-cinderella.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From colinthom at shaw.ca Mon Jul 29 07:49:56 2019 From: colinthom at shaw.ca (COLIN THOM) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2019 07:49:56 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [6pack] almost In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1717277885.238144898.1564408196293.JavaMail.zimbra@shaw.ca> I've not had the best of luck with Apple Hydraulics and gave up on their rebuilds. A new master brake cylinder isn't cheap, but it's not overly-expensive, either. Make sure you bench-bleed it before you put it in the car and use a vacuum tool for bleeding. Before using the vacuum tool, I remove the bleed nipples and put a small amount of anti-seize compound on the threads...just a small amount. This keeps air from passing through the threads when you create the vacuum and ensures the nipples don't seize in the calipers and rear adjusters. These steps will save you a lot of time and anxt. Colin From: 6pack-request at autox.team.net To: 6pack at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 5:08:23 AM Subject: 6pack Digest, Vol 54, Issue 16 Send 6pack mailing list submissions to 6pack at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 6pack-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at 6pack-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Almost... (Tom Walling) 2. Re: Options (John Cyganowski) 3. Re: Originality question... (DAVE DENSON) 4. Re: Originality question... (Irv Korey) 5. Re: Options (James_) 6. Saturday (Richard Lindsay) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 14:13:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Tom Walling To: Richard Lindsay , Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Almost... Message-ID: <948973951.608390.1564164796280 at connect.xfinity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Tell me more about the master cylinder... What do you mean by "flipping the new rubber seal in the master cylinder's rear circuit"? I have a professionally rebuilt MC (by Apple Hydraulics) that appears to be leaking and that goes almost to the bottom before the brakes finally "do their thing". Also, it makes a croaking sound like a sick frog! I'm loath to suspect Apple in tis because of their reputation for many years of quality rebuilds, but there is been very few miles put on the MC since I got it back - a couple of years, yeah, but no miles (you all know what that means...). Why did you opt for a new one and not rebuild it yourself? > On July 26, 2019 at 8:00 AM Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Hello friends, > My TR6 is almost ready to go for Carmine Red paint. I still need to remove the door locks from the outer door skins, and re-bleed the brakes. > When installing a new master cylinder my always helpful grandson assisted. And as we all know, six-year-old boys don't do anything slowly or half-way. Before I could stop him, Kelum slammed the brake pedal to the floor, flipping the new rubber seal in the master cylinder's rear circuit. That was a few days ago. > I now have a new master cylinder installed (Yes, the old one could have been rebuilt.) and refilled with fresh brake fluid. I hope to get the brakes re-bled this weekend, the door locks/cylinders off, and a trailer reserved to transport the car to the painter. Woohoo! I will then just need to wait for a dry day. > > Rick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/pdqtr6 at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:45:42 +0000 (UTC) From: John Cyganowski To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Options Message-ID: <66871669.7328141.1564170342074 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 There were very few factory options for the TR6. The overdive was probably the most well known option and it was called out on the commission number tag with the suffix being "LO" or "UO" for the NA spec cars. The York air conditioning units were a factory sanctioned option (did not void the warranty) but were dealer installed. The Metal Hardtop was a factory option but could also be purchased from the dealer after sale as a kit. Tires Michelin or Good Year were fitted at the factory and the Michelins were treated as an option but I am bit sure how the dealers handled this one. All of the other stuff (Hardtops, soft tops, lighters, shift knobs, ski racks, luggage racks, etc) were pretty much aftermarket, a lot of it being from a company called AMCO. John Cyg 70 Damson CC52927 LO ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 16:01:27 -0500 (CDT) From: DAVE DENSON To: Richard Lindsay , Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Originality question... Message-ID: <568114899.9387.1564174887751 at myemail.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mine was dealer installed. Dave > On July 26, 2019 at 9:08 AM Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Was the chrome luggage rack often found on the U.S. spec cars' boot lids, a factory installed option, a dealer installed option, or something aftermarket? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/davedenson at cox.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 09:17:06 -0500 From: Irv Korey To: Richard Lindsay Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Originality question... Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 9:09 AM Richard Lindsay via 6pack < 6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > Was the chrome luggage rack often found on the U.S. spec cars' boot lids, > a factory installed option, a dealer installed option, or something > aftermarket? > > Dealer installed, or aftermarket. Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 22:56:25 +0000 From: James_ To: "6pack at autox.team.net" <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Options Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks for this list. Something I have never seen but actually own one myself is a TR6 ski rack! I even put it to use! I?ve thought if I go to a car show sometime I?d mount it just to be different. I wish I had OD and AC would be nice too. > On Jul 26, 2019, at 12:46 PM, John Cyganowski via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > There were very few factory options for the TR6. The overdive was probably the most well known option and it was called out on the commission number tag with the suffix being "LO" or "UO" for the NA spec cars. The York air conditioning units were a factory sanctioned option (did not void the warranty) but were dealer installed. The Metal Hardtop was a factory option but could also be purchased from the dealer after sale as a kit. Tires Michelin or Good Year were fitted at the factory and the Michelins were treated as an option but I am bit sure how the dealers handled this one. > > All of the other stuff (Hardtops, soft tops, lighters, shift knobs, ski racks, luggage racks, etc) were pretty much aftermarket, a lot of it being from a company called AMCO. > > John Cyg > 70 Damson > CC52927 LO > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/jattr6 at hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 07:08:09 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: [6pack] Saturday Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello Friends, Its Saturday again here on America's south coast. Another fun day is beginning. This one is dedicated to the TR6. I had intended to take my TR6 to the painter on Monday but the weather forecast has changed my mind. Instead, I am addressing an issue that I had originally intended to save for after paint. Specifically, brakes. While bleeding the all-new brakes a few months ago, my grandson over extended the piston in the brake master cylinder. Doing so damaged the rear brake circuit part of the MC. My car now has a new MC installed and we are ready to bleed the system again. This time I am placing a 2x6 board in the pedal box thereby limiting the pedal/MC piston throw. My junior mechanic - six-year-old grandson Kelum - is helping me again today. Yea, the same guy with the offending lead foot, but this time he's helping with the jack, jack stands, lug wrench, and wheel removal. Its going to be a fun, hot, dirty morning. Can't wait. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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