From rrochlin at comcast.net Tue Sep 7 15:20:22 2021 From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 17:20:22 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Anybody know what this is for? Message-ID: I?ve had this in my Triumph parts box for about 20 years and can?t figure out where it is used. Thanks. Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1D4C969D-6E74-4129-9CBD-3C3B60B805B5.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 28949 bytes Desc: not available URL: From josephspiano at comcast.net Tue Sep 7 19:01:38 2021 From: josephspiano at comcast.net (josephspiano at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 18:01:38 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Anybody know what this is for? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41471BE8-F49C-7548-BF26-7EE91924B059@hxcore.ol> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Stewart Beatty 76 Carmine > On Sep 7, 2021, at 9:14 PM, Stan Foster wrote: > > Looks like trim piece that covers the wiring going between the steering wheel and the dashboard. > > From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net > On Behalf Of Rochlin Robert > Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 5:20 PM > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] Anybody know what this is for? > > I?ve had this in my Triumph parts box for about 20 years and can?t figure out where it is used. > Thanks. > Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/stubeatty at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrochlin at comcast.net Thu Sep 9 07:06:27 2021 From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 09:06:27 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Anybody know what this is for? It's unanimous In-Reply-To: References: <016600C6-FF05-49EF-9C85-F1CE364525BA@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3A59E5C3-CE00-45F1-AE1B-53391F451177@comcast.net> Thanks for your replies to my photo inquiry! The unanimous concencos is that the piece is to cover the wiring under the steering column. I will attempt to put it in this weekend. Best, Bob ?72 TR6 > On Sep 8, 2021, at 8:45 PM, Bob Lang wrote: > > Hey. > > Still kicking here. Not bad for an old guy. > > If you were using rubber bushings I'm not surprised that they perished. The reason I use urethane or delrin (nylatron) is because the rubber just doesn't last. But 10 years isn't that bad. But the other thing is that if there's binding that can result in the bushings early demise. > > The part you show fits under the steering column. It slips into the space under the column and into the dash and the tab fits into the bell of the steering column. It's almost impossible to fit it if the steering column clamp is tight. I have seen a bunch of tr6s with that part missing or mangled. > > Stay in touch. I live in Northborough now and retired from MIT about 4 years ago. I drive a van for the council on aging a few days a week and spend the rest of my time in the garage. I've been doing a lot of work on tr6s for club members (NEW ENGLAND TRIUMPHS) > > l8r > rml > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, 5:20 PM Robert Rochlin > wrote: > Hi Bob, > Hope all is going well. I see that you're still racing from your posts. > I think that you are correct about the part I have. Over the years I?ve thought that it went under the steering column , but I?ve never found a way it attached under the steering wheel securely, so I thought that it may be for something else. > I?m now working on the rear wheel camber on my car. Last spring I noticed that the camber was way negative so I disassembled it and found that the inner bushings on both sides were completely worn through. I had installed them about 10 years ago with Goodparts adjustable trailing arm brackets. I replaced the bushings and went back to the stock brackets. The camber is improved, but this winter I?m going to replace the rear springs and spacers and if that doesn?t bring the camber into spec I?ll mess with the tailing arm brackets. If you?re interested I?ll give you the Goodparts trailing arm brackets. I suspect that it may have been crappy bushings that were the problem and that the brackets are fine. They do make making camber adjustments easy. > Beat, > Bob >> On Sep 8, 2021, at 8:46 AM, Bob Lang > wrote: >> >> Sure looks like the wiring cover that fits under the steering column. >> >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021, 5:22 PM Rochlin Robert > wrote: >> I?ve had this in my Triumph parts box for about 20 years and can?t figure out where it is used. >> Thanks. >> Bob >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> >> >> 6pack at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/robert.lang.tr6 at gmail.com >> >> <1D4C969D-6E74-4129-9CBD-3C3B60B805B5.jpeg><1D4C969D-6E74-4129-9CBD-3C3B60B805B5.jpeg> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From aljlthomson at charter.net Thu Sep 9 18:08:30 2021 From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 20:08:30 -0400 Subject: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg In-Reply-To: <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005301d7a5d7$fca459e0$f5ed0da0$@charter.net> Do you have any pictures or links to existing suppliers? Not sure what ?duck bill? means. Alex Thomson From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Shaw Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2021 5:17 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg Hello Anyone install an electrical/hydraulic clutch aid on a 6? Prefer a duck bill arrangement but the ones I've investigated are either not available or have bad reputations. Some may use them for racing. Jerry Shaw -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anabil007 at comcast.net Thu Sep 9 18:35:57 2021 From: anabil007 at comcast.net (William Pugh) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2021 17:35:57 -0700 Subject: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg In-Reply-To: <005301d7a5d7$fca459e0$f5ed0da0$@charter.net> References: <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792@mail.yahoo.com> <005301d7a5d7$fca459e0$f5ed0da0$@charter.net> Message-ID: <3F0C13B6-54A6-47C9-BEB0-D47A3642B76C@comcast.net> I have hydraulic clutches on both my 1957 TR3 (small mouth) and 1970 TR6, neither have given me any problems for many years. Herman VD provided them to with his 5 speed conversion. They are Quarter Master products. Good Luck > On Sep 9, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote: > > Do you have any pictures or links to existing suppliers? Not sure what ?duck bill? means. > > Alex Thomson > > From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Shaw > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2021 5:17 PM > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg > > Hello > > Anyone install an electrical/hydraulic clutch aid on a 6? > > Prefer a duck bill arrangement but the ones I've investigated are either not > available or have bad reputations. > > Some may use them for racing. > > Jerry Shaw > _______________________________________________ From slowtoaccept at yahoo.com Fri Sep 10 05:35:31 2021 From: slowtoaccept at yahoo.com (Jerry Shaw) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 11:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg In-Reply-To: <3F0C13B6-54A6-47C9-BEB0-D47A3642B76C@comcast.net> References: <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792@mail.yahoo.com> <005301d7a5d7$fca459e0$f5ed0da0$@charter.net> <3F0C13B6-54A6-47C9-BEB0-D47A3642B76C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <134838880.2571345.1631273731888@mail.yahoo.com> Duck Clutch The 'Duck' semi-automatic clutch completely removes the requirement for left leg operation in a manual vehicle. A small lever on the gear knob controls the clutch pedal allowing complete operation of the clutch for the driver. Extremely suitable where an automatic version of the vehicle is not available. Although in essence manual, the 'Duck' is 'intelligent', being computer-controlled, and performs a true 'fly-by-wire' control of the clutch; for instance knowing where the 'bite point' of the clutch is and automatically finding it on slight release of the lever.?Full clutch control is performed extremely naturally. On Thursday, September 9, 2021, 08:36:14 PM EDT, William Pugh wrote: I have hydraulic clutches on both my 1957 TR3 (small mouth)? and 1970 TR6, neither have given me any problems for many years.? Herman VD provided them to with his 5 speed conversion.? They are Quarter Master products. Good Luck > On Sep 9, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote: > > Do you have any pictures or links to existing suppliers? Not sure what ?duck bill? means. >? > Alex Thomson >? > From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Shaw > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2021 5:17 PM > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg >? > Hello >? > Anyone install an electrical/hydraulic clutch aid on a 6? >? > Prefer a duck bill arrangement but the ones I've investigated are either not > available or have bad reputations. >? > Some may use them for racing. >? > Jerry Shaw > _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1631273572338blob.jpg Type: image/png Size: 42164 bytes Desc: not available URL: From aljlthomson at charter.net Fri Sep 10 08:04:07 2021 From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 10:04:07 -0400 Subject: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg In-Reply-To: <134838880.2571345.1631273731888@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792@mail.yahoo.com> <005301d7a5d7$fca459e0$f5ed0da0$@charter.net> <3F0C13B6-54A6-47C9-BEB0-D47A3642B76C@comcast.net> <134838880.2571345.1631273731888@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001f01d7a64c$b8afe720$2a0fb560$@charter.net> Definitely different than a hand clutch tractor or a stand-drive Divco milk delivery truck. http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/clutch/ct_300.htm https://www.fadiel.com/en/driving-devices/clutchs/duck-automatic-semi-automatic-and-manual.html https://at-aust.org/items/11473 http://www.pmeautoconversions.com.au/driving-controls/pedal-modifications/duck-clutch Alex Thomson From: Jerry Shaw [mailto:slowtoaccept at yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 7:36 AM To: Alex & Janet Thomson; William Pugh Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg Inline image Duck Clutch The 'Duck' semi-automatic clutch completely removes the requirement for left leg operation in a manual vehicle. A small lever on the gear knob controls the clutch pedal allowing complete operation of the clutch for the driver. Extremely suitable where an automatic version of the vehicle is not available. Although in essence manual, the 'Duck' is 'intelligent', being computer-controlled, and performs a true 'fly-by-wire' control of the clutch; for instance knowing where the 'bite point' of the clutch is and automatically finding it on slight release of the lever. Full clutch control is performed extremely naturally. On Thursday, September 9, 2021, 08:36:14 PM EDT, William Pugh wrote: I have hydraulic clutches on both my 1957 TR3 (small mouth) and 1970 TR6, neither have given me any problems for many years. Herman VD provided them to with his 5 speed conversion. They are Quarter Master products. Good Luck > On Sep 9, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote: > > Do you have any pictures or links to existing suppliers? Not sure what ?duck bill? means. > > Alex Thomson > > From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Shaw > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2021 5:17 PM > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg > > Hello > > Anyone install an electrical/hydraulic clutch aid on a 6? > > Prefer a duck bill arrangement but the ones I've investigated are either not > available or have bad reputations. > > Some may use them for racing. > > Jerry Shaw > _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 42164 bytes Desc: not available URL: From slowtoaccept at yahoo.com Fri Sep 10 08:53:39 2021 From: slowtoaccept at yahoo.com (Jerry Shaw) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2021 14:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg In-Reply-To: <001f01d7a64c$b8afe720$2a0fb560$@charter.net> References: <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792@mail.yahoo.com> <005301d7a5d7$fca459e0$f5ed0da0$@charter.net> <3F0C13B6-54A6-47C9-BEB0-D47A3642B76C@comcast.net> <134838880.2571345.1631273731888@mail.yahoo.com> <001f01d7a64c$b8afe720$2a0fb560$@charter.net> Message-ID: <1324888983.2605259.1631285619519@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for the links. I've spoken to distributors of a couple brands?guidosimplex being one, and even a bmw development version. It wasn't promising. Every time I Google the topic, I get new sources, so maybe I'll find one. 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See?The Chairslayers Foundation?He doesn't yet make them commercially? | | | | | | | | | | | The Chairslayers Foundation The Chairslayer Foundations mission here is to give back the freedom and independence of driving a car again, wi... | | | On Friday, September 10, 2021, 10:04:08 AM EDT, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote: Definitely different than a hand clutch tractor or a stand-drive Divco milk delivery truck. ? ? http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/clutch/ct_300.htm ? https://www.fadiel.com/en/driving-devices/clutchs/duck-automatic-semi-automatic-and-manual.html ? https://at-aust.org/items/11473 ? http://www.pmeautoconversions.com.au/driving-controls/pedal-modifications/duck-clutch ? Alex Thomson ? ? ? From: Jerry Shaw [mailto:slowtoaccept at yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 7:36 AM To: Alex & Janet Thomson; William Pugh Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg ? Duck Clutch The 'Duck' semi-automatic clutch completely removes the requirement for left leg operation in a manual vehicle. A small lever on the gear knob controls the clutch pedal allowing complete operation of the clutch for the driver. Extremely suitable where an automatic version of the vehicle is not available. Although in essence manual, the 'Duck' is 'intelligent', being computer-controlled, and performs a true 'fly-by-wire' control of the clutch; for instance knowing where the 'bite point' of the clutch is and automatically finding it on slight release of the lever.?Full clutch control is performed extremely naturally. ? On Thursday, September 9, 2021, 08:36:14 PM EDT, William Pugh wrote: ? ? I have hydraulic clutches on both my 1957 TR3 (small mouth)? and 1970 TR6, neither have given me any problems for many years.? Herman VD provided them to with his 5 speed conversion.? They are Quarter Master products. Good Luck > On Sep 9, 2021, at 5:08 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote: > > Do you have any pictures or links to existing suppliers? Not sure what ?duck bill? means. >? > Alex Thomson >? > From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jerry Shaw > Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2021 5:17 PM > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg >? > Hello >? > Anyone install an electrical/hydraulic clutch aid on a 6? >? > Prefer a duck bill arrangement but the ones I've investigated are either not > available or have bad reputations. >? > Some may use them for racing. >? > Jerry Shaw > _______________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Do you have enough strength to start off in 1st gear? If so, have you considered 'slip shifting' like truck drivers do in their rigs for the other shifts? I can do it and my brother, who is actually a truck driver, excels in it. IMO the Triumph tranny is very forgiving in this technique. It almost won't let you slip into the next gear until the RPMs are right. Anyway, I'm always one for some totally different idea, to a fault. Sloane 69 Six 72 Spit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From davedenson at cox.net Sat Sep 11 12:49:13 2021 From: davedenson at cox.net (Dave Denson) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 13:49:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [6pack] TR6 Clutch aid for a weak left leg In-Reply-To: References: <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1442185454.2474740.1631222205792@mail.yahoo.com> <005301d7a5d7$fca459e0$f5ed0da0$@charter.net> <3F0C13B6-54A6-47C9-BEB0-D47A3642B76C@comcast.net> <134838880.2571345.1631273731888@mail.yahoo.com> <001f01d7a64c$b8afe720$2a0fb560$@charter.net> <1324888983.2605259.1631285619519@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1915658714.553105.1631386153329@myemail.cox.net> I've done that with mine also, mainly just to prove I could. I think I decided 2nd worked OK for the start. I decided to make sure it was possible after my brother told me about having to drive his Porsche home from work like that because the clutch cable broke. I wouldn't want to do that all the time though. Dave > On September 10, 2021 at 7:58 PM im sloane wrote: > > I have a different angle that could possibly help, if you haven't already considered this. Do you have enough strength to start off in 1st gear? If so, have you considered 'slip shifting' like truck drivers do in their rigs for the other shifts? I can do it and my brother, who is actually a truck driver, excels in it. IMO the Triumph tranny is very forgiving in this technique. It almost won't let you slip into the next gear until the RPMs are right. > > Anyway, I'm always one for some totally different idea, to a fault. > > Sloane > 69 Six > 72 Spit > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/davedenson at cox.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: