From rrochlin at comcast.net  Mon Apr  3 06:01:24 2023
From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Robert Rochlin)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2023 08:01:24 -0400
Subject: [6pack] Front Suspension Bushing replacement Kit
Message-ID: <0D5115A9-9F03-4890-8FD5-4A1007D40251@comcast.net>

Hi Everyone,
	Thanks so much to everyone for your great advice as to the replacement bushings for my TR6.  
	The company that provided my last set of bushings is Polybush in the UK. I re-bushed the whole car with their product and 100% of those bushings have failed including the rear swing arm bushings and the steering rack bushings in about 25,000 miles. I replaced the swing arm bushings last winter and I?m going to have to replace, at minimum, the steering rack bushings before this driving season.  I?m going to try to put off the rest of the front end bushings until this driving season is over.  I?ve ordered a set new polyurethane bushes from British Parts Northwest and expect to have them in a couple of days. 
	Best,
	Bob
	?72 TR6

From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Apr  3 07:11:04 2023
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2023 13:11:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Front Suspension Bushing replacement Kit
In-Reply-To: <0D5115A9-9F03-4890-8FD5-4A1007D40251@comcast.net>
References: <0D5115A9-9F03-4890-8FD5-4A1007D40251@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1081183697.4412841.1680527464287@mail.yahoo.com>

 FWIW, I installed poly bushing from TSI over 25 years ago and they are still in good shape.? It makes for a harsher ride over the rubber but the suspension geometry is more accurate and reliable.
 
Dave 


 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin at comcast.net>
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Apr 3, 2023 7:01 am
Subject: [6pack] Front Suspension Bushing replacement Kit

Hi Everyone,
??? Thanks so much to everyone for your great advice as to the replacement bushings for my TR6.? 
??? The company that provided my last set of bushings is Polybush in the UK. I re-bushed the whole car with their product and 100% of those bushings have failed including the rear swing arm bushings and the steering rack bushings in about 25,000 miles. I replaced the swing arm bushings last winter and I?m going to have to replace, at minimum, the steering rack bushings before this driving season.? I?m going to try to put off the rest of the front end bushings until this driving season is over.? I?ve ordered a set new polyurethane bushes from British Parts Northwest and expect to have them in a couple of days. 
??? Best,
??? Bob
??? ?72 TR6
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From yellowtr at adelphia.net  Wed Apr  5 06:03:16 2023
From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (yellowtr at adelphia.net)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 08:03:16 -0400
Subject: [6pack] CL ad
Message-ID: <d667ef2e-d1c9-10b9-5dd4-322c47677a89@roadrunner.com>

Hello,

I did not get any No's from the list so here is a link to my 72 6.

I am getting older by the day and the driving season here in Central NY 
seems to be getting shorter every year. Still will have the 3 and 4 though.

Thanks,

Bob

https://utica.craigslist.org/cto/d/utica-1972-triumph-tr6/7606269281.html


From lee at automate-it.com  Wed Apr  5 20:43:40 2023
From: lee at automate-it.com (lee at automate-it.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2023 21:43:40 -0500
Subject: [6pack] CL ad
In-Reply-To: <d667ef2e-d1c9-10b9-5dd4-322c47677a89@roadrunner.com>
References: <d667ef2e-d1c9-10b9-5dd4-322c47677a89@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <059538b482cf955fdea325651ceb08ae@automate-it.com>

Wow, it's beautiful, Bob. And I think that's a very attractive price. 
Good thing I'm a three-days drive away. ;-)

(Although I'll be in Albany on business for a couple of days this 
summer.)
  Lee

On 2023-04-05 07:03, yellowtr at adelphia.net wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I did not get any No's from the list so here is a link to my 72 6.
> 
> I am getting older by the day and the driving season here in Central
> NY seems to be getting shorter every year. Still will have the 3 and 4
> though.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bob
> 
> https://utica.craigslist.org/cto/d/utica-1972-triumph-tr6/7606269281.html
> 

From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Apr  6 05:41:32 2023
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 11:41:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] [TR] CL ad
In-Reply-To: <d667ef2e-d1c9-10b9-5dd4-322c47677a89@roadrunner.com>
References: <d667ef2e-d1c9-10b9-5dd4-322c47677a89@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <2019472223.353381.1680781292486@mail.yahoo.com>

 Beautiful car.? Good luck with your sale.? Like you I am trying to thin the herd.? We frequently hear stories of widows left with a garage full of cars and parts that need to be moved and quickly.? It is better to unload this stuff in a more gradual manner.
 
Dave 


 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: yellowtr at adelphia.net
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>; six pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Apr 5, 2023 7:03 am
Subject: [TR] CL ad

Hello,

I did not get any No's from the list so here is a link to my 72 6.

I am getting older by the day and the driving season here in Central NY 
seems to be getting shorter every year. Still will have the 3 and 4 though.

Thanks,

Bob

https://utica.craigslist.org/cto/d/utica-1972-triumph-tr6/7606269281.html

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From yellowtr at adelphia.net  Thu Apr  6 06:41:57 2023
From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (yellowtr at adelphia.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 08:41:57 -0400
Subject: [6pack] [TR] CL ad
In-Reply-To: <da37fdf7-91ab-f374-0adf-6c6149434cfd@roadrunner.com>
References: <da37fdf7-91ab-f374-0adf-6c6149434cfd@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <f20cb8f0-18a8-5ea8-dafc-7d71a4c3e08e@roadrunner.com>

Dave,

 ?I have been taking my parts stash up to 
https://britishautosalvage.com/index.html the past few years. I am 
finished with restoring and my cars are in perfect running order. The 
owner inherited the yard with all its wrecks and salvaged parts. Nice 
guy. I will be taking more and more there as time goes by.

He has offered me $ to pay for my travel etc. but I refuse. My hope is 
that younger guys will take up the hobby and maintain our beloved 
Triumphs long after we are gone.

Bob

On 4/6/23 7:41 AM, DAVID MASSEY wrote:
> Beautiful car.? Good luck with your sale.? Like you I am trying to 
> thin the herd.? We frequently hear stories of widows left with a 
> garage full of cars and parts that need to be moved and quickly.? It 
> is better to unload this stuff in a more gradual manner.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yellowtr at adelphia.net
> To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>; six pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Apr 5, 2023 7:03 am
> Subject: [TR] CL ad
>
> Hello,
>
> I did not get any No's from the list so here is a link to my 72 6.
>
> I am getting older by the day and the driving season here in Central NY
> seems to be getting shorter every year. Still will have the 3 and 4 
> though.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Apr  6 08:06:21 2023
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 14:06:21 +0000
Subject: [6pack] [TR] CL ad
In-Reply-To: <2019472223.353381.1680781292486@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <d667ef2e-d1c9-10b9-5dd4-322c47677a89@roadrunner.com>
 <2019472223.353381.1680781292486@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5377413b7d3346f4a86426a61d6322f1@ranteer.com>

Yes!  I sold 2 cars last year and am selling another soon.  Will be down to just 2 LBCs, which my son very much wants to keep.  One is already in his name; the other is in both our names.  btw he is 32 and has been working on old British cars since he was 10.  My daughter wants none of it, but she very much wants the 350Z convertible, which is ok with my son.

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of DAVID MASSEY
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 6:42 AM
To: yellowtr at adelphia.net; triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] CL ad

Beautiful car.  Good luck with your sale.  Like you I am trying to thin the herd.  We frequently hear stories of widows left with a garage full of cars and parts that need to be moved and quickly.  It is better to unload this stuff in a more gradual manner.

Dave




-----Original Message-----
From: yellowtr at adelphia.net<mailto:yellowtr at adelphia.net>
To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net<mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>>; six pack <6pack at autox.team.net<mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>>
Sent: Wed, Apr 5, 2023 7:03 am
Subject: [TR] CL ad
Hello,

I did not get any No's from the list so here is a link to my 72 6.

I am getting older by the day and the driving season here in Central NY
seems to be getting shorter every year. Still will have the 3 and 4 though.

Thanks,

Bob

https://utica.craigslist.org/cto/d/utica-1972-triumph-tr6/7606269281.html

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Apr  6 09:57:40 2023
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 15:57:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] [TR] CL ad
In-Reply-To: <da37fdf7-91ab-f374-0adf-6c6149434cfd@roadrunner.com>
References: <d667ef2e-d1c9-10b9-5dd4-322c47677a89@roadrunner.com>
 <2019472223.353381.1680781292486@mail.yahoo.com>
 <da37fdf7-91ab-f374-0adf-6c6149434cfd@roadrunner.com>
Message-ID: <972833879.449442.1680796660575@mail.yahoo.com>

 Cool.? Too bad I'm 800 miles away.? I guess I could palletize a bunch of parts and ship it.
 
Dave 


 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob <yellowtr at roadrunner.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Apr 6, 2023 7:39 am
Subject: Re: [TR] CL ad

 Dave, ?I have been taking my parts stash up to https://britishautosalvage.com/index.html the past few years. I am finished with restoring and my cars are in perfect running order. The owner inherited the yard with all its wrecks and salvaged parts. Nice guy. I will be taking more and more there as time goes by. 
  He has offered me $ to pay for my travel etc. but I refuse. My hope is that younger guys will take up the hobby and maintain our beloved Triumphs long after we are gone. 
  Bob
  On 4/6/23 7:41 AM, DAVID MASSEY wrote:
  
 
  Beautiful car.? Good luck with your sale.? Like you I am trying to thin the herd.? We frequently hear stories of widows left with a garage full of cars and parts that need to be moved and quickly.? It is better to unload this stuff in a more gradual manner.
   
     Dave 
  
  
     
   
  -----Original Message-----
 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net
 To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>; six pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
 Sent: Wed, Apr 5, 2023 7:03 am
 Subject: [TR] CL ad
 
 Hello,
  
  I did not get any No's from the list so here is a link to my 72 6.
  
  I am getting older by the day and the driving season here in Central NY 
  seems to be getting shorter every year. Still will have the 3 and 4 though.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Bob
  
  https://utica.craigslist.org/cto/d/utica-1972-triumph-tr6/7606269281.html
  
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Apr  6 15:31:24 2023
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 21:31:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] [TR] CL ad
In-Reply-To: <5377413b7d3346f4a86426a61d6322f1@ranteer.com>
References: <d667ef2e-d1c9-10b9-5dd4-322c47677a89@roadrunner.com>
 <2019472223.353381.1680781292486@mail.yahoo.com>
 <5377413b7d3346f4a86426a61d6322f1@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <1120439605.624814.1680816684682@mail.yahoo.com>

 Sometimes people just don't get it.? One week I drive a different car to work everyday.? Nobody noticed or cared.
 
Dave 


 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
To: triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Apr 6, 2023 9:06 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] CL ad

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Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 6:42 AM
To: yellowtr at adelphia.net; triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] CL ad  ? Beautiful car.? Good luck with your sale.? Like you I am trying to thin the herd.? We frequently hear stories of widows left with a garage full of cars and parts that need to be moved and quickly.? It is better to unload this stuff in a more gradual manner.  ? Dave  ?  ?  ?  ? -----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wed, Apr 5, 2023 7:03 am
Subject: [TR] CL ad Hello,  ? I did not get any No's from the list so here is a link to my 72 6.  ? I am getting older by the day and the driving season here in Central NY seems to be getting shorter every year. Still will have the 3 and 4 though.  ? Thanks,  ? Bob  ? https://utica.craigslist.org/cto/d/utica-1972-triumph-tr6/7606269281.html  ? **triumphs at autox.team.net **  ? Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs?http://www.team.net/archive  ? Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dave1massey at cs.com _______________________________________________
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From mbarre at juno.com  Thu Apr  6 20:03:49 2023
From: mbarre at juno.com (Matt)
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2023 02:03:49 GMT
Subject: [6pack] [TR] CL ad
Message-ID: <20230406.220349.6005.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com>

My long suffering wife has recently told me that when I die, she is having the yard sale I was always in search of - "EVERYTHING IS $1"  Something tells me she will get the shop cleared out pretty quick!  I will make sure she knows how to send notice to the list!

Don't get too excited though, my nothing indicates my demise is eminent or even near.




---------- Original Message ----------
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
To: "yellowtr at adelphia.net" <yellowtr at adelphia.net>,  "triumphs at autox.team.net" <triumphs at autox.team.net>,  "6pack at autox.team.net" <6pack at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] CL ad
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2023 11:41:32 +0000 (UTC)




 Beautiful car.  Good luck with your sale.  Like you I am trying to thin the herd.  We frequently hear stories of widows left with a garage full of cars and parts that need to be moved and quickly.  It is better to unload this stuff in a more gradual manner.



 






Dave 












 



 



-----Original Message-----

From: yellowtr at adelphia.net

To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>; six pack <6pack at autox.team.net>

Sent: Wed, Apr 5, 2023 7:03 am

Subject: [TR] CL ad




Hello,







I did not get any No's from the list so here is a link to my 72 6.







I am getting older by the day and the driving season here in Central NY 



seems to be getting shorter every year. Still will have the 3 and 4 though.







Thanks,







Bob







https://utica.craigslist.org/cto/d/utica-1972-triumph-tr6/7606269281.html







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From rrochlin at comcast.net  Mon Apr 10 15:35:58 2023
From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 17:35:58 -0400
Subject: [6pack] Re-installing Front Suspension Springs
Message-ID: <62D5984E-FBE5-438A-A945-25AB9EC89930@comcast.net>

	I?m in the last stages of reassembling the front suspension after replacing all the bushings.  I originally did the job about 6 years ago and can?t remember how I reinstalled the springs, but I don?t recall it being particularly difficult.  This time through, I just can?t get the springs back in.  I got a spring compressor loaner from AutoZone and was able to install one spring, but when I went to remove the spring compressor through the bottom of the spring pan it was about 1/8 of an inch too wide to remove, so back to the drawingboard...  I?ve looked at Bentley and Hayes manuals, but their method of putting the spring back is put the spring pan and jack it up into position  doesn?t come close to lining the spring pan to the lower wishbone holes. Any advice appreciated.
	Below are the bushings I removed.  They about 6 to 7 years old with about 20,000 miles and, as you can see, they are toast. The swing arm bushings were worse. I bought them on a recommendation from a TR guy from an outfit in the UK called Polybush.
	Best,
	Bob


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From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca  Mon Apr 10 18:57:18 2023
From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Yahoo)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 00:57:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Spring compressor
References: <1138856310.1961207.1681174638263.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1138856310.1961207.1681174638263@mail.yahoo.com>

Study the TR spring compressors sold by Moss and TRF in their catalogs.? ?I then made up one out of 3/4 grade 8 threaded rod cut to length and an assortment of burly washers? of different sizes and 3/4 nuts to compress and hold the pressure.? ?This is SAFE and it works.? ?Work carefully and slowly.? ?Don't get caught up on the spring pan.? You re dealing with enough force to hurt you badly.? ?Best.

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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Mon Apr 10 19:27:02 2023
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 18:27:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Re-installing Front Suspension Springs
In-Reply-To: <62D5984E-FBE5-438A-A945-25AB9EC89930@comcast.net>
References: <62D5984E-FBE5-438A-A945-25AB9EC89930@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <276630525.865685.1681176422309@connect.xfinity.com>

That's terrible condition for any poly or rubber bushing in such a short time.  Complete failure.  I've taken many TR suspensions apart and never saw even a 60+ year old original factory bushing in that condition. Just yesterday I completely disassembled an early TR4 suspension from a badly bent frame and what I'm sure where the original bushings didn't look as bad.  The durometer of those poly bushing must be way too soft.  I wouldn't use those again.  I'd send those photos to the manufacturer and supplier.  Terrible.
I too made my own spring compressor similar to the Moss tool. 
Dave H.

From dave1massey at cs.com  Tue Apr 11 06:08:49 2023
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 12:08:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Re-installing Front Suspension Springs
In-Reply-To: <CANxnku1EMKBYm33QHEMJiyOw161F5rAAbgvQ=8zKhaaGkhnMyg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <62D5984E-FBE5-438A-A945-25AB9EC89930@comcast.net>
 <CANxnku1EMKBYm33QHEMJiyOw161F5rAAbgvQ=8zKhaaGkhnMyg@mail.gmail.com>
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 I've found that conventional hardware store all thread (grade 2) will last long enough to change out one set of springs.? Even with lubrication the thread wears and gets galled.? I went one better and bought some 1/2 inch ACME thread rod and nuts from McMaster-Carr.? Of course, ACME thread nuts won't jam since that effect counts on the angle of the thread and ACME has no angle, the threads are square-cut.? So I drilled the nut and rod at one end and I use a locking pin to keep the nut on the bottom in place throughout the operation.
My tool has been used for many removal/installs and is still good as new.? 

On the other hand, hardware store threaded rod is available today and will work for one operation and is quick and convenient in acquisition.
 
Dave 


 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Barnes <pebarnes71 at gmail.com>
To: Rochlin Robert <rrochlin at comcast.net>
Cc: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, Apr 10, 2023 7:32 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Re-installing Front Suspension Springs

When removing or installing the front springs, I've had good luck with a length of 1/2" threaded rod and a series of washers, plates, and nuts. Have a look at the tool illustrated in the Haynes or Bentley manuals. The jack method won't work because the spring needs to be under load when installed, more load that the weight of the car.
--Phil Barnes ('71 TR6 since 1977)
On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 6:03 PM Rochlin Robert <rrochlin at comcast.net> wrote:

? ? ? ? I?m in the last stages of reassembling the front suspension after replacing all the bushings.? I originally did the job about 6 years ago and can?t remember how I reinstalled the springs, but I don?t recall it being particularly difficult.? This time through, I just can?t get the springs back in.? I got a spring compressor loaner from AutoZone and was able to install one spring, but when I went to remove the spring compressor through the bottom of the spring pan it was about 1/8 of an inch too wide to remove, so back to the drawingboard...? I?ve looked at Bentley and Hayes manuals, but their method of putting the spring back is put the spring pan and jack it up into position? doesn?t come close to lining the spring pan to the lower wishbone holes. Any advice appreciated.
? ? ? ? Below are the bushings I removed.? They about 6 to 7 years old with about 20,000 miles and, as you can see, they are toast. The swing arm bushings were worse. I bought them on a recommendation from a TR guy from an outfit in the UK called Polybush.
? ? ? ? Best,
? ? ? ? Bob








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From dave1massey at cs.com  Tue Apr 11 12:03:43 2023
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 18:03:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Re-installing Front Suspension Springs
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On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:23, Randy and Valerie DeRuiter<deruiterville at hotmail.com> wrote:Except with the added caution that when hardware threaded rod galls, it can lock the nut and really mess up the whole ability to remove the rod. And don't ask me how I know that..
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 7:08 AMTo: triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net <6pack at autox.team.net>Subject: Re: [TR] Re-installing Front Suspension Springs?I've found that conventional hardware store all thread (grade 2) will last long enough to change out one set of springs. Even with lubrication the thread wears and gets galled. I went one better and bought some 1/2 inch ACME thread rod and nuts from McMaster-Carr. Of course, ACME thread nuts won't jam since that effect counts on the angle of the thread and ACME has no angle, the threads are square-cut. So I drilled the nut and rod at one end and I use a locking pin to keep the nut on the bottom in place throughout the operation.
My tool has been used for many removal/installs and is still good as new.?
On the other hand, hardware store threaded rod is available today and will work for one operation and is quick and convenient in acquisition.
Dave
Even with a generous application of grease it will gall.












  
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From rrochlin at comcast.net  Thu Apr 13 07:24:35 2023
From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 09:24:35 -0400
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Re-installing Front Suspension Springs
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	Thanks to everyone for their input on my reinstalling the front springs into my TR6. I appreciate your taking the time to share your expertise. 
	I did manage to reinstall the springs yesterday with a small modification to the AutoZone spring compressor.  I?m amazed that my first go around in installing the springs was so uneventful that I had no recollection of any difficulty.  I did find the steel rod, nuts and plate that I apparently used to compress the springs last time, but as I compressed the spring I could see that I was headed for trouble.  The springs need to be compressed far more than I had the confidence to use that rig on.  Dave and Randy correctly pointed out that hardware threaded rod is not suitable for spring compression.  To get the springs compressed enough to slip into the spring pan requires a lot of compression force and, as was pointed out, putting something under that much compression force can be dangerous.
	I am going to send the photos I posted to the list to Polybush, but I?m not hopeful of much of a response. My guess is that I?m not the only one who the only one who has had such a catastrophic failure of their bushes and they may be playing big time defense and denial. 
	Lastly, best wishes to Mark and team.net.  We all owe you a debt of gratitude for helping us to keep our cars on the road by facilitating sage lister advice.
	Best,
	Bob
	?72 TR6


From im_sloane at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 21 05:21:42 2023
From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 11:21:42 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Carbs (story - not a question)
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So just laughing at myself and like to share. Here's how to "maximize" your shipping cost on a small project. Backed the Six out a couple weeks ago after my yearly oil change. Looked under, no oil leaking, but damn. Both carbs are leaking. I've been thinking those O-rings probably needed replacing soon anyway. So a quick order to MOSS for 2 O-rings. Why did I think I could get off those float bowls and not need float bowl gaskets? So, oh well, 2nd order to Moss for two float bowl gaskets. Got it all back together with no problem. Left the breather off so I could see the bowls better upon startup, backed it out. Looks good - no leaks. However, hmmm, looks like the rear carb air valve isn't moving up and down. So, 3rd Moss order for 1 diaphragm. Man that thing will scoot with 2 working carbs. I must have gotten a crack in that diaphragm sometime a year or two ago.

Happy Motoring,
Sloane
69 Six
72 Spit (in body shop for almost 2 years now :)
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From bobfabie at gmail.com  Fri Apr 21 05:43:05 2023
From: bobfabie at gmail.com (rmf3860 rmf3860)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 07:43:05 -0400
Subject: [6pack] Carbs (story - not a question)
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Great story Sloane, one I can certainly relate to more than once.
Bob.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 7:33 AM im sloane <im_sloane at hotmail.com> wrote:

> So just laughing at myself and like to share. Here's how to "maximize"
> your shipping cost on a small project. Backed the Six out a couple weeks
> ago after my yearly oil change. Looked under, no oil leaking, but damn.
> Both carbs are leaking. I've been thinking those O-rings probably needed
> replacing soon anyway. So a quick order to MOSS for 2 O-rings. Why did I
> think I could get off those float bowls and not need float bowl gaskets?
> So, oh well, 2nd order to Moss for two float bowl gaskets. Got it all
> back together with no problem. Left the breather off so I could see the
> bowls better upon startup, backed it out. Looks good - no leaks. However,
> hmmm, looks like the rear carb air valve isn't moving up and down. So, 3rd Moss
> order for 1 diaphragm. Man that thing will scoot with 2 working carbs. I
> must have gotten a crack in that diaphragm sometime a year or two ago.
>
> Happy Motoring,
> Sloane
> 69 Six
> 72 Spit (in body shop for almost 2 years now :)
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From yellowtr at adelphia.net  Fri Apr 21 06:17:17 2023
From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (yellowtr at adelphia.net)
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 08:17:17 -0400
Subject: [6pack] Carbs (story - not a question)
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Slone,


When I restored my 72 I decided to go with the Hitachi carbs since I had 
zero experience with Stroms. Well I am in my 13th year and no leaks, 
drips or errors. Runs like a top. Cant remember who supplied the carbs 
but I exchanged my Stroms for a discount.

Through the years I have had real good luck with my H6s on the 3, HS6s 
on the 4 and the Hitachi on the 6.

Every once in awhile I have to add some transmission fluif to the 
dampers but that is it.


Bob

On 4/21/23 7:21 AM, im sloane wrote:
> So just laughing at myself and like to share. Here's how to "maximize" 
> your shipping cost on a small project. Backed the Six out a couple 
> weeks ago after my yearly oil change. Looked under, no oil leaking, 
> but damn. Both carbs are leaking. I've been thinking those O-rings 
> probably needed replacing soon anyway. So a quick order to MOSS for 2 
> O-rings. Why did I think I could get off those float bowls and not 
> need float bowl gaskets? So, oh well, 2^nd ?order to Moss for two 
> float bowl gaskets. Got it all back together with no problem. Left the 
> breather off so I could see the bowls better upon startup, backed it 
> out. Looks good - no leaks. However, hmmm, looks like the rear carb 
> air valve isn't moving up and down. So, 3^rd ?Moss order for 1 
> diaphragm. Man that thing will scoot with 2 working carbs. I must have 
> gotten a crack in that diaphragm sometime a year or two ago.
>
> Happy Motoring,
> Sloane
> 69 Six
> 72 Spit (in body shop for almost 2 years now :)
>
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From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca  Sat Apr 22 10:47:06 2023
From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Yahoo)
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 16:47:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Carb Story
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I live a very long way from our brit car suppliers and shipping to Canada is expensive? ? ?I bring in lots of just in case I need it parts? ?Cheers.

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