[PreWar] are these lists still alive ?

mike rambour mikey at b2systems.com
Wed Mar 17 08:48:56 MST 2010


 Another good one, I had thought of it but not very seriously thinking
it would be fine, maybe I need to look into that also.

	mike

On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 13:54 +0000, Adrian Twelvetrees wrote:
> My worry would be whether or not the Singer wheels would take the  
> extra torque from the later engine.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
> On 17 Mar 2010, at 09:17, Malcolm wrote:
> 
> > It is a very long time since I sent anything to this list and am  
> > not sure if I am doing it correctly but here goes -
> >
> > The dry weight of an MGA engine is 359 pounds (including clutch)  
> > and the gearbox weighs 67.25 pounds.  The MGB engine will be  
> > slightly lighter as it has a larger bore.  The early MGB gearbox is  
> > very similar so should be about the same.
> >
> > Malcolm
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rambour"  
> > <mikey at b2systems.com>
> > To: <british-cars at autox.team.net>; <british-cars-pre- 
> > war at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:41 AM
> > Subject: [PreWar] are these lists still alive ?
> >
> >
> >> I have a question about my 1934 Singer, I have very serious  
> >> concerns about the motor and I am considering a temporary engine  
> >> swap.  The Singer is a 6cylinder 1.5litre car, I have free access  
> >> to a late 1960's or extremely early 1970's MGB that is pretty much  
> >> a running rust bucket parts donor.  I am going to assume that its  
> >> a 1800cc motor but anyone know the weight of the motor also motor  
> >> and trans ?
> >>
> >> The Singer wheel track is 4'4" front and rear and according to the  
> >> internet the MGB is 4.125 for the rear, I would have to put the  
> >> Singer's 18" wire wheels on the MGB's rear axle.  Would that track  
> >> difference be a issue on the handling of the car ? since its wire  
> >> wheels I am not sure I could put in spacers like you would on a  
> >> steel rims.
> >>
> >> My thinking is to butcher this extremely rare 1934 Singer and put  
> >> in the MGB drivetrain while I get the Singer motor redone, that  
> >> will take some serious cash, the block is cracked, I have to have  
> >> pistons made, babbitt bearings poured and its all going to be very  
> >> expensive.  I would not want to do any permanent butchering of the  
> >> Singer, anything and everything I do would have to be reversable  
> >> when I finish the proper motor but it gets it on the road for now.
> >>
> >> Both rear ends are leaf springs so I don't see a issue there, the  
> >> engine compartment is quite roomy for the 6 cylinder so the MG 4  
> >> should fit very nicely (not measured anything yet), I could weld  
> >> up motor mounts that minimize the damage to the Singer or better  
> >> yet do no damage.  The only "gotcha" I have at this time would be  
> >> the clutch and brake pedal assembly and mixing the MG rear brakes  
> >> with the Singer front brakes, I have to check on that as I don't  
> >> even like the sound of it, but I should be able to take the MG  
> >> front axle back plates and put them on the Singer, so I am back to  
> >> just the pedal assembly without damaging the Singer chassis.
> >>
> >> I have all the cool toys to do this with, lathe, mill, welders,  
> >> etc.  I just don't have the engine/drivetrain switching knowledge,  
> >> never done that YET but it does not look too hard.  Well I have  
> >> started it on another car but its not finished yet.
> >>
> >>    mike
> >
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