From roadsters at taysi.net Sun Jun 1 07:45:51 2008 From: roadsters at taysi.net (Haluk Taysi) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:45:51 +0200 Subject: lead In-Reply-To: <004901c8c358$4972fc70$2f01a8c0@Rosebud> References: <004901c8c358$4972fc70$2f01a8c0@Rosebud> Message-ID: <4842A80F.7080507@taysi.net> Do we really need this additive? Here in Germany many old English car drivers stopped using them. Many claim we don4t need it. After my bottle finishes I will also stop using it in the Bugeye. Any comments? Haluk Taysi > I have been using 'Al-most lead' in the 66. Schucks told me they will no > longer carry the item. One person said octane booster would work. > > Any suggestions what is could use in it's place. [almost lead]? > > Thanks, > Bob Cole > _______________________________________________ > Cahc mailing list > Cahc at autox.team.net > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: 31.05.2008 12:25 From craigkanderson23 at msn.com Sun Jun 1 19:14:24 2008 From: craigkanderson23 at msn.com (Craig Anderson) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 18:14:24 -0700 Subject: British Car Week Rally & Tour and BCW Dinner and Van Dusen References: Message-ID: Would someone be so kind as to send me results/a write-up/or story about Van Dusen and British Car Week? Thank you. Craig From bjd97 at juno.com Sun Jun 1 22:02:52 2008 From: bjd97 at juno.com (Beckie J Daniels) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 21:02:52 -0700 Subject: British Car Week trip to the Columbia Gorge Message-ID: <20080601.210252.1660.0.bjd97@juno.com> Hi all! Trip photos are up, but the laptop is overheating so I won't label and caption them until tomorrow or so. Heading to Eugene tomorrow. :o) Beckie ____________________________________________________________ Take a break - you deserve it. Click here to find a great vacation. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nJgyecVDmOLIKzOfhvky2Rqj68gAC0dvIX9csESsxLaWSrM/ From bjd97 at juno.com Mon Jun 2 07:06:55 2008 From: bjd97 at juno.com (Beckie J Daniels) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 06:06:55 -0700 Subject: link to British tour photos Message-ID: <20080602.060655.2532.1.bjd97@juno.com> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tesla314mom/ Sorry I forgot the link last night!! Haven't you all got me bookmarked yet? LOL Called my son to forward the link, since I had the computer turned off when I remembered, but since he's not a member of the club list it wouldn't take his message. :o) Beckie From roadsters at taysi.net Tue Jun 3 11:28:47 2008 From: roadsters at taysi.net (Haluk Taysi) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:28:47 +0200 Subject: lead In-Reply-To: <607576.94398.qm@web46005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <607576.94398.qm@web46005.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <48457F4F.4070500@taysi.net> Jim, the people who stopped lead additives here argue that there is a so-called "lead memory" on engines which were run on leaded gasoline many years . They argue, unless you are doing racing or driving many thousands of miles a year, just forget the additives. These people are qualified chaps. In any case, someday when I pull the head off for some reason or other I will put in hardened valve seats. Cheers, Haluk > This is simple! I say go for it. What the hay; MOST of the people who > say stop using lead additives are qualified mechanics? That is, ones > that have _/actually /_pulled a cylinder head and accomplished a valve > job? I'll bet *_NOT_*. > > This is from one who has; > > A. Like it or not your Healey is VERY OLD TECH. and in the days of > their prime LEAD *_WAS_ in the gasoline (ie. petrol ) Why? *To > lubricate the valves and seats for one reason, there are more but I'll > let some one else add their 2C worth. > > B. *_If_* when you had your engine rebuilt you installed Stellite or > hardened valve seats and maybe even Stainless valves especially the > Exhaust ones you do not need the additives, in my opinion , because > you would have modernized your engine like the ones that do not need > leaded fuel. oh and that's one reason why they took it out and saved > another buck in the cost of producing gas. > C. I on the other hand had good valves and seats (just needed > refacing)@ 160,000 miles when I rebuilt my engine and being a little > short on funds opted to only replace the valve guides which were worn, > with BRONZE ones and ground; (triple stepped) the valve seats. Thus I > add and have added MARVEL MYSTERY OIL (a inexpensive way to lubricate > valves and seats to make up for no lead in the gasoline) for years. A > lot of people are doing this cuz it works!!! There are other products > I imagine tho, I am not familiar with them. > > D. not to forget you also have a flat tappet engine design and now > that the oil company's do not need the zinc because new engines have > rollers you must add it. I have opted for 1/2 qt. HYPER LUBE per oil > change. Soon the infamous *_they _*will say their stopping using that > too, I again say, go for it. > > As Craig would say, that's my opinion it's free and worth every penny. > JIM > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Haluk Taysi > To: Cole/Masumoto ; cahc at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, June 1, 2008 6:45:51 AM > Subject: Re: lead > > Do we really need this additive? Here in Germany many old English car > drivers stopped using them. Many claim we don4t need it. After my bottle > finishes I will also stop using it in the Bugeye. Any comments? > Haluk Taysi > > I have been using 'Al-most lead' in the 66. Schucks told me they will no > > longer carry the item. One person said octane booster would work. > > > > Any suggestions what is could use in it's place. [almost lead]? > > > > Thanks, > > Bob Cole > > _______________________________________________ > > Cahc mailing list > > Cahc at autox.team.net > > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG. > > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: > 31.05.2008 12:25 > _______________________________________________ > Cahc mailing list > Cahc at autox.team.net > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 - Release Date: 03.06.2008 07:00 From britishcarranch at hotmail.com Wed Jun 4 08:04:15 2008 From: britishcarranch at hotmail.com (Steve Day) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 14:04:15 +0000 Subject: lead in fuel Message-ID: Here is some info from the auto industry side: One benefit of lead in the fuel was a "cushion" between the valve face and the seat, to help limit the heat transfer to the valve and prevent "burned valves". Machinist`s have found from experience, ( thousands of valve jobs ), that valve burning from no lead only occurs at very high temp`s and pressures..... like towing, high performance racing, and maybe ambient temp of 105 degree and pulling a long hill at high speed. Personal experience in my shop verify those thoughts. The auto industry is being forced to remove additives that will foul catalytic converters and the air we breathe , like the zinc removal from oil, and manufacturers are voiding warranties when those harmful ones are used......like lead additives! If you are going to do hardened seats in your engine overhaul, do the stelite intake and exhaust valves too, one`s not much good without the other. So............ make sure your cooling system is properly maintained and go ahead and put your foot in it once in awhile, but don`t tow a boat. Steve Day British Car Ranch _________________________________________________________________ Its easy to add contacts from Facebook and other social sites through Windows Live Messenger. Learn how. https://www.invite2messenger.net/im/?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnHow From britishcarranch at hotmail.com Thu Jun 5 08:26:47 2008 From: britishcarranch at hotmail.com (Steve Day) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:26:47 +0000 Subject: correction to lead in fuel Message-ID: After I proof read my note.......on line, I noticed an error. The lead in fuel was a cushion, but, it was also to HELP the transfer of heat from the valve to the head and then the cooling system, not insulate it. ( the valve is hotter than the head ). Oops. Steve Day British Car Ranch _________________________________________________________________ Search that pays you back! Introducing Live Search cashback. http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=srchpaysyou back From phil.danielsbn7 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 6 16:07:20 2008 From: phil.danielsbn7 at yahoo.com (phil daniels) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: June 28 Message-ID: <988424.50214.qm@web58107.mail.re3.yahoo.com> CAn someone tell me wha tis hpappening onteh 28th of June? Last I talkted to Mitzi, she said the greenway (sp) tour was on. Can any one confirm this and let us all know when and where and something about it? thanks From phil.danielsbn7 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 6 16:14:51 2008 From: phil.danielsbn7 at yahoo.com (phil daniels) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: top bows bn7 Message-ID: <844284.90305.qm@web58115.mail.re3.yahoo.com> One of our members was by my garage today and had a top bow or his BN7. It was different than the ones I have for either my BN6 or early BN7. His front rail that attaches to the windscreen and the wood bow had two straight through holes at each end rather than the counter sunk ones like I have on both of mine. He also has two oblong plates that the screws go through before going through the straight through holes. Can someone help us out and tell us if this were a later BN7 modification? Phil From edremel at comcast.net Sat Jun 7 09:50:39 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (Eric Dremel) Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 08:50:39 -0700 Subject: Can Be A Nut Tour - Hotel Deadline June 11 Message-ID: Cascaders: Just a reminder that the deadline to reserve rooms for the Can Be A Nut Tour is June 11th. I've spoken to the Marina Inn in Anacortes and learned that we have 9 rooms reserved. Apparently there were more reservations but some canceled? If you have already made a reservation, it might be a good idea to confirm it with the hotel to be sure you are all set. If you have yet to register please do so this week, there are just a few rooms left in the club's name and the hotel has no additional rooms to allocate. Once our block is all reserved or the June 11 date passes there will be no more rooms! Anacortes is a difficult place in summer due to ferry traffic. We also have a great rate ($95.00) at this property which has recently undergone extensive updating! Don't delay!! Marina Inn 3300 Commercial Ave Anacortes, WA 98221 (360) 293-3545 www.marinainnwa.com Eric Dremel CAHC Activities Coordinator From matthewsarchitects at msn.com Sat Jun 7 12:15:36 2008 From: matthewsarchitects at msn.com (Bill Matthews) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:15:36 -0700 Subject: brake servo color Message-ID: Hello all, Does anyone happen to know if the brake booster servo on a 67BJ8 is painted black or is it left with the raw metal grayish finish. Thanks for the help. Bill Matthews 67 BJ8 From matthewsarchitects at msn.com Sat Jun 7 12:21:04 2008 From: matthewsarchitects at msn.com (Bill Matthews) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 11:21:04 -0700 Subject: brake servo color Message-ID: Hello all, Does anyone happen to know if the brake booster servo on a 67BJ8 is painted black or is it left with the raw metal grayish finish. Thanks for the help. Bill Matthews 67 BJ8 From helyjohn at cablespeed.com Mon Jun 9 11:40:34 2008 From: helyjohn at cablespeed.com (John Snyder) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 09:40:34 -0800 Subject: Healey Search Message-ID: I'm looking for another Healey to restore. Need a BN7 or BT7 for a ground up restoration. Rust in the usual places is OK, other problems can be discussed. I really want a BN7, but a BT7 is my fall-back choice. John Snyder 1959 BN7 1960 BT7 1961 BN7 MK2 1962 BT7 MK2 From cruz.n.usa at gmail.com Mon Jun 9 15:30:24 2008 From: cruz.n.usa at gmail.com (Carlos Cruz) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 14:30:24 -0700 Subject: MaryHill Loops Hillclimb Message-ID: Good afternoon Fellow Cascaders, Anyone planning on going to the hillclimb race this weekend - Sunday - to be specific? I'm thinking abou driving down for the day - Anyone interested in going? Cheers, Carlos Cruz From bjd97 at juno.com Wed Jun 11 16:52:18 2008 From: bjd97 at juno.com (Beckie J Daniels) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:52:18 -0700 Subject: Can Be A Nut Tour - Hotel Deadline June 11 Message-ID: <20080611.155218.508.2.bjd97@juno.com> There is now only one room left. Don't be left out!! :o) Beckie On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 08:50:39 -0700 Eric Dremel writes: > Cascaders: > > Just a reminder that the deadline to reserve rooms for the Can Be A > Nut Tour > is June 11th. I've spoken to the Marina Inn in Anacortes and learned > that we > have 9 rooms reserved. Apparently there were more reservations but > some > canceled? If you have already made a reservation, it might be a good > idea to > confirm it with the hotel to be sure you are all set. If you have > yet to > register please do so this week, there are just a few rooms left in > the > club's name and the hotel has no additional rooms to allocate. Once > our > block is all reserved or the June 11 date passes there will be no > more > rooms! > > Anacortes is a difficult place in summer due to ferry traffic. We > also have > a great rate ($95.00) at this property which has recently undergone > extensive updating! Don't delay!! > > Marina Inn > 3300 Commercial Ave > Anacortes, WA 98221 > (360) 293-3545 > www.marinainnwa.com > > Eric Dremel > CAHC Activities Coordinator > _______________________________________________ > Cahc mailing list > Cahc at autox.team.net > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc > > ____________________________________________________________ Find great deals from qualified plastic surgeons. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nEPU1861IgijrDflJHvPIml1siZ4tqTcfpj7iT96CrRtEsO/ From cruz.n.usa at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 17:23:02 2008 From: cruz.n.usa at gmail.com (Carlos Cruz) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:23:02 -0700 Subject: Can Be A Nut Tour - Hotel Deadline June 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Countrymen - *I am not using that term loosely here*, Consider this fair warning - you may be called on to bail us (me) Hispanic looking Club members out of the pokie during the Can-Be-A-Nut tour. I'm not one to mix politics with fun, but I came across something today that has me wondering what-if. There is a thought-provoking article in this week's Seattle Weekly, titled *Rough Seize*. It discusses a new border patrol initiative centered in Anacortes. Border patrol has evidently set up shop and are detaining Hispanic looking individuals for possible deportation. Fortunately I'm as American as the border patrol officers - but the mere inconvenience and possible detention while they sort it all out has me wondering... So consider this fair warning, if you don't see me sitting around the camp fire that evening singing along and raising a beer with you - you better pass the hat, collect some money for bail and come looking for me. I'm counting on you. One of the many ironic things I found in the article was the fact that the program is centered around ferry traffic between the San Juan Islands and Anacortes ( or Ana Cortes ) - both quite prominent Hispanic names. Anyway, I look forward to meeting more of you then - I hope! !hasta luego! Carlos Cruz On 6/7/08, Eric Dremel wrote: > > Cascaders: > > Just a reminder that the deadline to reserve rooms for the Can Be A Nut > Tour > is June 11th. I've spoken to the Marina Inn in Anacortes and learned that > we > have 9 rooms reserved. Apparently there were more reservations but some > canceled? If you have already made a reservation, it might be a good idea > to > confirm it with the hotel to be sure you are all set. If you have yet to > register please do so this week, there are just a few rooms left in the > club's name and the hotel has no additional rooms to allocate. Once our > block is all reserved or the June 11 date passes there will be no more > rooms! > > Anacortes is a difficult place in summer due to ferry traffic. We also have > a great rate ($95.00) at this property which has recently undergone > extensive updating! Don't delay!! > > Marina Inn > 3300 Commercial Ave > Anacortes, WA 98221 > (360) 293-3545 > www.marinainnwa.com > > Eric Dremel > CAHC Activities Coordinator From edremel at comcast.net Wed Jun 11 21:46:43 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (edremel at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:46:43 +0000 Subject: June 28th - Greenway Challenge Ride Message-ID: <061220080346.19551.48509C230002FABC00004C5F2207020653040A030A9D0B0A@comcast.net> Cascaders: Join tour Leader Gordy Gardner on June 28th for the Greenway Challenge Ride.This is an annual multi-sponsored event that Mitzie and Gordy went on last year. The Idea is to visit 5 to 10 Greenway Challenge Sites and take a picture as proof of your visit and you can quallify for a chance at some prizes. Even withour the prizes it is a great outing and a chance to tour some interesting sites in our Northwest. More information on the total event and how to register online for the prizes can be found at: mtsgreenway.org The tour meeting time and location will be distributed soon, watch e-mail and the CAHC website for details. You can also call Gordy directly at (206) 725-2545 or e-mail gwgardner333 at msn.com Eric Dremel CAHC Activities Coordinator From mmasumot at mindspring.com Fri Jun 13 11:21:54 2008 From: mmasumot at mindspring.com (Cole/Masumoto) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:21:54 -0700 Subject: Fw: Fw: Tire Safety News Report Message-ID: Old cars and old tires. Will all four give up? Check this out, need to check your tires. Click on the link below: http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897 BRAND NEW tires from ANY TIRE SHOP should be checked for AGE, what WEEK and YEAR tire was made. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1501 - Release Date: 6/13/2008 6:33 AM From mmasumot at mindspring.com Fri Jun 13 11:45:57 2008 From: mmasumot at mindspring.com (Cole/Masumoto) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:45:57 -0700 Subject: Check Your New Tires For This Code Before They Cause An Accident. Message-ID: <573F059A52B847E6961AF0CFC21623E5@Rosebud> http://www.mytwodollars.com/2008/05/12/old-tires-cause-accidents-check-the-co de-on-side/ From edremel at comcast.net Fri Jun 13 13:34:37 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (Eric Dremel) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:34:37 -0700 Subject: June 28th - Greenway Challenge Ride In-Reply-To: <061220080346.19551.48509C230002FABC00004C5F2207020653040A030A9D0B0A@comcast.net> Message-ID: Here's a link to the event web page. Some great prizes, should be a fun event! http://www.mtsgreenway.org/greenwaydays/greenway-challenge/greenway-challeng e Eric On 6/11/08 8:46 PM, "Eric Dremel" wrote: > Cascaders: > > Join tour Leader Gordy Gardner on June 28th for the Greenway Challenge > Ride.This is an annual multi-sponsored event that Mitzie and Gordy went on > last year. The Idea is to visit 5 to 10 Greenway Challenge Sites and take a > picture as proof of your visit and you can quallify for a chance at some > prizes. Even withour the prizes it is a great outing and a chance to tour > some interesting sites in our Northwest. More information on the total event > and how to register online for the prizes can be found at: mtsgreenway.org > > > > The tour meeting time and location will be distributed soon, watch e-mail and > the CAHC website for details. You can also call Gordy directly at (206) > 725-2545 or e-mail gwgardner333 at msn.com > Eric Dremel > CAHC Activities Coordinator > _______________________________________________ > Cahc mailing list > Cahc at autox.team.net > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc From edremel at comcast.net Fri Jun 13 13:47:48 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (Eric Dremel) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:47:48 -0700 Subject: Save the Date - Tyee Triumph - CAHC BBQ Message-ID: Our annual BBQ with the Tyee Triumph Club is tentatively set for August 10th. Sheila Findlay is finalizing details, will forward more information as the date draws near! Eric Dremel CAHC Event Coordinator From edremel at comcast.net Sat Jun 14 10:48:02 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (Eric Dremel) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:48:02 -0700 Subject: Columbia Gorge Rally & Greenwood Car Show Message-ID: Cascaders: Is anyone planning to attend the Columbia Gorge MG Club Rally set for Saturday June 21st? I need someone to serve as the club's event coordinator & report on the participants, etc. How about the June 28th Greenwood Car Show, anyone planning to go? Don't forget that this event is the same day as Gordie's Greenway Challenge Ride. Full details on these and all CAHC events can be found on the club's Event Calendar at http://www.my.calendars.net/cahc/ Thanks, Eric Dremel CAHC Activities Coordinator From edremel at comcast.net Sat Jun 14 10:53:46 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (Eric Dremel) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:53:46 -0700 Subject: Conclave? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: One more...who's attending Conclave at the end of this month in San Diego? Thanks! Eric On 6/14/08 9:48 AM, "Eric Dremel" wrote: > Cascaders: > > Is anyone planning to attend the Columbia Gorge MG Club Rally set for > Saturday June 21st? I need someone to serve as the club's event coordinator > & report on the participants, etc. > > How about the June 28th Greenwood Car Show, anyone planning to go? Don't > forget that this event is the same day as Gordie's Greenway Challenge Ride. > Full details on these and all CAHC events can be found on the club's Event > Calendar at http://www.my.calendars.net/cahc/ > > Thanks, > > Eric Dremel > CAHC Activities Coordinator > _______________________________________________ > Cahc mailing list > Cahc at autox.team.net > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc From edremel at comcast.net Sat Jun 14 11:20:00 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (Eric Dremel) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:20:00 -0700 Subject: CAHC Car of the Year Points Message-ID: Cascaders: I'm finalizing a mid-year update to the COY Points tally. Please provide me with the following information so that I can complete the update: 1) Mileage driven during British Car Week. Poker Rally participants need not reply, I already have this information. 2) Information on any non-CAHC events you may have participated in. Please note that I already have information on the following events so there is no need to send anything on these: -Findley Frostbite Tour -Jan/Feb Cascade -Alpha Rally School -Planes, Trains & Automobile Tour -Salmon BBQ 4-20-08 -Tulip Rallye -Mar/April Cascade -New Member Picnic 5-07-08 -Van Dusen ABFM -Run to the Gorge MG Rally -BCW Poker Rally -BCW Awards Dinner -Web Photo Contributors Please note that points are not awarded for attending the monthly club Meeting. We consider this to be a business meeting and not an event. It would also favor those who live nearby thus skewing the points. Here's a link to the club webpage with sub-links to our event calendar and the COY Contest information sheet. I'll have the mid year points tally ready to go by the end of June. Please respond promptly if you want your points to be accurately reflected in this update. Most questions can be answered by reading the contest information but I'm happy to respond if you need anything clarified...just ask! Best, Eric Dremel CAHC Activities Coordinator From edremel at comcast.net Sat Jun 14 11:27:33 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (Eric Dremel) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:27:33 -0700 Subject: CAHC Car of the Year Points In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK, sorry to fill your in-box but Carlos Cruz served as our tour leader for the Tulip Rally. He reports the following attendees but noted that there was one other Healey that participated but did not come along with his group. If you attended Tulip Rally and are not on this list, please let me know. Carlos Cruz & Bob Shawcroft Jim & Arlene Slostad Jim & Beckie Daniels Nick & Edie Ann Horn (BJ9) Dave Stetler Greg Hill Eric On 6/14/08 10:20 AM, "Eric Dremel" wrote: > Cascaders: > > I'm finalizing a mid-year update to the COY Points tally. Please provide me > with the following information so that I can complete the update: > > 1) Mileage driven during British Car Week. Poker Rally participants need not > reply, I already have this information. > > 2) Information on any non-CAHC events you may have participated in. Please > note that I already have information on the following events so there is no > need to send anything on these: > > -Findley Frostbite Tour > -Jan/Feb Cascade > -Alpha Rally School > -Planes, Trains & Automobile Tour > -Salmon BBQ 4-20-08 > -Tulip Rallye > -Mar/April Cascade > -New Member Picnic 5-07-08 > -Van Dusen ABFM > -Run to the Gorge MG Rally > -BCW Poker Rally > -BCW Awards Dinner > -Web Photo Contributors > > Please note that points are not awarded for attending the monthly club > Meeting. We consider this to be a business meeting and not an event. It > would also favor those who live nearby thus skewing the points. > > Here's a link to the club webpage with sub-links to our event calendar and > the COY Contest information sheet. I'll have the mid year points tally ready > to go by the end of June. Please respond promptly if you want your points to > be accurately reflected in this update. Most questions can be answered by > reading the contest information but I'm happy to respond if you need > anything clarified...just ask! > > Best, > > Eric Dremel > CAHC Activities Coordinator > _______________________________________________ > Cahc mailing list > Cahc at autox.team.net > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc From edremel at comcast.net Sat Jun 14 15:31:59 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (Eric Dremel) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:31:59 -0700 Subject: CAHC Car of the Year Points In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK, don't want to start any rumors...that would be Phil Daniels & not some guy named Jim. Sorry Beckie! Yes, I also know it's Alfa not Alpha. Moving way to fast on CAHC stuff this morning! Resending the link to the calendar...not sure it made it the first time! http://cascadeahc.homestead.com/events.html Eric On 6/14/08 10:27 AM, "Eric Dremel" wrote: > OK, sorry to fill your in-box but Carlos Cruz served as our tour leader for > the Tulip Rally. He reports the following attendees but noted that there was > one other Healey that participated but did not come along with his group. If > you attended Tulip Rally and are not on this list, please let me know. > > Carlos Cruz & Bob Shawcroft > Jim & Arlene Slostad > Jim & Beckie Daniels > Nick & Edie Ann Horn (BJ9) > Dave Stetler > Greg Hill > > Eric > > On 6/14/08 10:20 AM, "Eric Dremel" wrote: > >> Cascaders: >> >> I'm finalizing a mid-year update to the COY Points tally. Please provide me >> with the following information so that I can complete the update: >> >> 1) Mileage driven during British Car Week. Poker Rally participants need not >> reply, I already have this information. >> >> 2) Information on any non-CAHC events you may have participated in. Please >> note that I already have information on the following events so there is no >> need to send anything on these: >> >> -Findley Frostbite Tour >> -Jan/Feb Cascade >> -Alpha Rally School >> -Planes, Trains & Automobile Tour >> -Salmon BBQ 4-20-08 >> -Tulip Rallye >> -Mar/April Cascade >> -New Member Picnic 5-07-08 >> -Van Dusen ABFM >> -Run to the Gorge MG Rally >> -BCW Poker Rally >> -BCW Awards Dinner >> -Web Photo Contributors >> >> Please note that points are not awarded for attending the monthly club >> Meeting. We consider this to be a business meeting and not an event. It >> would also favor those who live nearby thus skewing the points. >> >> Here's a link to the club webpage with sub-links to our event calendar and >> the COY Contest information sheet. I'll have the mid year points tally ready >> to go by the end of June. Please respond promptly if you want your points to >> be accurately reflected in this update. Most questions can be answered by >> reading the contest information but I'm happy to respond if you need >> anything clarified...just ask! >> >> Best, >> >> Eric Dremel >> CAHC Activities Coordinator >> _______________________________________________ >> Cahc mailing list >> Cahc at autox.team.net >> http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc > _______________________________________________ > Cahc mailing list > Cahc at autox.team.net > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc From edremel at comcast.net Tue Jun 17 11:48:53 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (edremel at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:48:53 +0000 Subject: RSVPs Requested June 28/29 Events x 3 Message-ID: <061720081748.27357.4857F90500070EBF00006ADD2200748184040A030A9D0B0A@comcast.net> Cascaders: We have three events on the club calendar for the weekend of June 28th & 29th as summarized below. I thought it a good idea to send this update along for your information and to help our gracious event leaders plan appropriately. Please RSVP as requested below if you are attending either the Greenway Challenge Ride on Saturday and/or the Taysi BBQ on Sunday. Saturday 6/28/08 - Greenwood Car Show An annual event that takes over Greenwood Avenue in North Seattle for an eclectic day of cars. Parking by 8:00, show at 10:00, and departure at 4:00. Always a sunny day. Click www.greenwoodcarshow.com/ for event details and additional information. Saturday 6/28/08 - Greenway Challenge Ride Join tour leaders Gordie Gardner & Mitzi Butler at the 5th Annual Greenway Days Festival for a prize filled scavenger hunt. Click www.mtsgreenway.org/greenwaydays/greenway-challenge/greenway-challenge/ for event details, prizes and registration information. The tour departs Southcenter Starbucks at 9:00 AM linking with the Eastside participants at the Triple X on Front Stret in Issaquah at 10 AM. Expect a 100+ mile tour with lots of fun & suprises! For more information and to RSVP contact Gordy and Mitzi at (206)725-2545 or gwgardner333 at msn.com. Sunday 6/29/08 - CAHC BBQ Hosted by club members Haluk & Maggie Taysi who live in Germany & are summering in West Seattle. BBQ begins at noon, please call (206) 937-3816 or send an e-mail to roadsters at taysi.net to RSVP & get driving directions. No need to bring anything except a beverage of your choice and an adventurous palate! Haluk is from Turkey and is thinking of some traditional recipies for the event! NOTE: a short tour was considered but given the location & logistics the event will be a BBQ only so create your own tour enroute! Eric Dremel CAHC Activities Coordinator From edremel at comcast.net Tue Jun 17 12:49:33 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (edremel at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:49:33 +0000 Subject: Greenwood Show UPDATE Message-ID: <061720081849.16901.4858073D0008E179000042052205886014040A030A9D0B0A@comcast.net> UPDATE - Bruce and Sue Jackson have notified me that they registered for Greenwood. Are others planning to attend & is there a possiblity for a group get-together at the event? Anyone interested can contact me at edremel at comcast.net or Bruce & Sue at bjdesiner at aol.com. Best, Eric Dremel In a message dated 6/17/2008 10:49:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, edremel at comcast.net writes: Cascaders: We have three events on the club calendar for the weekend of June 28th & 29th as summarized below. I thought it a good idea to send this update along for your information and to help our gracious event leaders plan appropriately. Please RSVP as requested below if you are attending either the Greenway Challenge Ride on Saturday and/or the Taysi BBQ on Sunday. Saturday 6/28/08 - Greenwood Car Show An annual event that takes over Greenwood Avenue in North Seattle for an eclectic day of cars. Parking by 8:00, show at 10:00, and departure at 4:00. Always a sunny day. Click www.greenwoodcarshow.com/ for event details and additional information. Saturday 6/28/08 - Greenway Challenge Ride Join tour leaders Gordie Gardner & Mitzi Butler at the 5th Annual Greenway Days Festival for a prize filled scavenger hunt. Click www.mtsgreenway.org/greenwaydays/greenway-challenge/greenway-challenge/ for event details, prizes and registration information. The tour departs Southcenter Starbucks at 9:00 AM linking with the Eastside participants at the Triple X on Front Stret in Issaquah at 10 AM. Expect a 100+ mile tour with lots of fun & suprises! For more information and to RSVP contact Gordy and Mitzi at (206)725-2545 or gwgardner333 at msn.com. Sunday 6/29/08 - CAHC BBQ Hosted by club members Haluk & Maggie Taysi who live in Germany & are summering in West Seattle. BBQ begins at noon, please call (206) 937-3816 or send an e-mail to roadsters at taysi.net to RSVP & get driving directions. No need to bring anything except a beverage of your choice and an adventurous palate! Haluk is from Turkey and is thinking of some traditional recipies for the event! NOTE: a short tour was considered but given the location & logistics the event will be a BBQ only so create your own tour enroute! Eric Dremel CAHC Activities Coordinator _______________________________________________ Cahc mailing list Cahc at autox.team.net http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. From edremel at comcast.net Tue Jun 17 12:51:10 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (edremel at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:51:10 +0000 Subject: Greenwood Show UPDATE Message-ID: <061720081851.20206.4858079E0000CCF300004EEE2205886014040A030A9D0B0A@comcast.net> Correction to Bruce & Sue, it's BJDESIGNER at aol.com -------------- Original message -------------- From: edremel at comcast.net UPDATE - Bruce and Sue Jackson have notified me that they registered for Greenwood. Are others planning to attend & is there a possiblity for a group get-together at the event? Anyone interested can contact me at edremel at comcast.net or Bruce & Sue at bjdesiner at aol.com. Best, Eric Dremel In a message dated 6/17/2008 10:49:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, edremel at comcast.net writes: Cascaders: We have three events on the club calendar for the weekend of June 28th & 29th as summarized below. I thought it a good idea to send this update along for your information and to help our gracious event leaders plan appropriately. Please RSVP as requested below if you are attending either the Greenway Challenge Ride on Saturday and/or the Taysi BBQ on Sunday. Saturday 6/28/08 - Greenwood Car Show An annual event that takes over Greenwood Avenue in North Seattle for an eclectic day of cars. Parking by 8:00, show at 10:00, and departure at 4:00. Always a sunny day. Click www.greenwoodcarshow.com/ for event details and additional information. Saturday 6/28/08 - Greenway Challenge Ride Join tour leaders Gordie Gardner & Mitzi Butler at the 5th Annual Greenway Days Festival for a prize filled scavenger hunt. Click www.mtsgreenway.org/greenwaydays/greenway-challenge/greenway-challenge/ for event details, prizes and registration information. The tour departs Southcenter Starbucks at 9:00 AM linking with the Eastside participants at the Triple X on Front Stret in Issaquah at 10 AM. Expect a 100+ mile tour with lots of fun & suprises! For more information and to RSVP contact Gordy and Mitzi at (206)725-2545 or gwgardner333 at msn.com. Sunday 6/29/08 - CAHC BBQ Hosted by club members Haluk & Maggie Taysi who live in Germany & are summering in West Seattle. BBQ begins at noon, please call (206) 937-3816 or send an e-mail to roadsters at taysi.net to RSVP & get driving directions. No need to bring anything except a beverage of your choice and an adventurous palate! Haluk is from Turkey and is thinking of some traditional recipies for the event! NOTE: a short tour was considered but given the location & logistics the event will be a BBQ on ly so create your own tour enroute! Eric Dremel CAHC Activities Coordinator _______________________________________________ Cahc mailing list Cahc at autox.team.net http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. From athiealejandro at hotmail.com Tue Jun 17 15:36:05 2008 From: athiealejandro at hotmail.com (Alejandro Athie) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:36:05 -0700 Subject: RSVPs Requested June 28/29 Events x 3 In-Reply-To: <061720081748.27357.4857F90500070EBF00006ADD2200748184040A030A9D0B0A@comcast.net> References: <061720081748.27357.4857F90500070EBF00006ADD2200748184040A030A9D0B0A@comcast.net> Message-ID: Hello Eric and all, It not only appears, but it's real that you all are having a wonderful time this year, in spite of a weird weather! Indeed, we have been missing lots of activities with our old friends of the CAHC. As, after retiring both of us, and moved to Southern California, we haven't joined any club here, consequently our activities have been limited to a few short rides/tours along beautiful beaches and marinas although we can't blame on the weather, that has been cooperating So Cal style. We were looking forward to meet with a good portion of you in San Diego Conclave 2008 but it looks like only a small group is coming to this Southwest corner of the country. We wish you lots of fun in the scheduled events and look forward to see you probably by late summer (?). Alex & Elly> From: edremel at comcast.net> To: cahc at autox.team.net> Subject: RSVPs Requested June 28/29 Events x 3> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:48:53 +0000> > Cascaders:> > We have three events on the club calendar for the weekend of June 28th & 29th as summarized below. I thought it a good idea to send this update along for your information and to help our gracious event leaders plan appropriately. Please RSVP as requested below if you are attending either the Greenway Challenge Ride on Saturday and/or the Taysi BBQ on Sunday.> > Saturday 6/28/08 - Greenwood Car Show> An annual event that takes over Greenwood Avenue in North Seattle for an eclectic day of cars. Parking by 8:00, show at 10:00, and departure at 4:00. Always a sunny day. Click www.greenwoodcarshow.com/ for event details and additional information.> > Saturday 6/28/08 - Greenway Challenge Ride> Join tour leaders Gordie Gardner & Mitzi Butler at the 5th Annual Greenway Days Festival for a prize filled scavenger hunt. Click www.mtsgreenway.org/greenwaydays/greenway-challenge/greenway-challenge/ for event details, prizes and registration information. The tour departs Southcenter Starbucks at 9:00 AM linking with the Eastside participants at the Triple X on Front Stret in Issaquah at 10 AM. Expect a 100+ mile tour with lots of fun & suprises! For more information and to RSVP contact Gordy and Mitzi at (206)725-2545 or gwgardner333 at msn.com.> > Sunday 6/29/08 - CAHC BBQ> Hosted by club members Haluk & Maggie Taysi who live in Germany & are summering in West Seattle. BBQ begins at noon, please call (206) 937-3816 or send an e-mail to roadsters at taysi.net to RSVP & get driving directions. No need to bring anything except a beverage of your choice and an adventurous palate! Haluk is from Turkey and is thinking of some traditional recipies for the event! NOTE: a short tour was considered but given the location & logistics the event will be a BBQ only so create your own tour enroute!> > Eric Dremel> CAHC Activities Coordinator> _______________________________________________> Cahc mailing list> Cahc at autox.team.net> http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc _________________________________________________________________ The im Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst From edremel at comcast.net Tue Jun 17 21:15:50 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (edremel at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:15:50 +0000 Subject: Conclave? Message-ID: <061820080315.15552.48587DE600009D0B00003CC02207001641040A030A9D0B0A@comcast.net> Great news Alex! I'll forward your note to the club so our contingent in San Diego will know to find you...like you could hide from us anyway! Eric -------------- Original message -------------- From: Alejandro Athie Hi Eric, we will be attending the Conclave 2008 in San Diego. Hope to see as many CAHC members as possible. Alex & Elly Athie > Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:53:46 -0700 > Subject: Conclave? > From: edremel at comcast.net > To: cahc at autox.team.net > > One more...who's attending Conclave at the end of this month in San Diego? > > Thanks! > > Eric > > > On 6/14/08 9:48 AM, "Eric Dremel" wrote: > > > Cascaders: > > > > Is anyone planning to attend the Columbia Gorge MG Club Rally set for > > Saturday June 21st? I need someone to serve as the club's event coordinator > > & report on the participants, etc. > > > > How about the June 28th Greenwood Car Show, anyone planning to go? Don't > > forget that this event is the same day as Gordie's Greenway Challenge Ride. > > Full details on these and all CAHC events can be found on the club's Event > > Calendar at http://www.my.calendars.net/cahc/ > > > > Thanks, > > > > Eric Dremel > > CAHC Activities Coordinator > > _______________________________________________ > > Cahc mailing list > > Cahc at autox.team.net > > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc > _______________________________________________ > Cahc mailing list > Cahc at autox.team.net > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! Try it Now From wzharrison at comcast.net Thu Jun 19 10:15:33 2008 From: wzharrison at comcast.net (Walt & Zoe Harrison) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:15:33 -0700 Subject: June Meeting Message-ID: <00b101c8d227$b4cc3b20$62a3e747@harrisonpc5> Cascaders, Time to plan on joining us for our June meeting at Angelo's in Burien. Meeting begins at 7:30 pm, come earlier and share some dinner conversation and catch up with other members. See you then, Zoe p.s. If you've volunteered to call club members from our current membership booklet, please inform Phil Daniels of your calls/conversations with folks, and thanks ! From edmyed at harbornet.com Thu Jun 19 13:24:09 2008 From: edmyed at harbornet.com (Richard Bittmann) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:24:09 -0700 Subject: Northwest Meet Message-ID: <000601c8d242$0ca69f60$c537bf83@richard7je7n03> Cascaders, I'm looking ahead to the NW Meet. Which nights will we be staying in the Harrison Beach Hotel? The event dates are Thur-Sun 18th - 21st ofSeptember. Do we stay over all 4 days? Trying to my get reservation right. Rich From edremel at comcast.net Fri Jun 20 08:31:56 2008 From: edremel at comcast.net (edremel at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:31:56 +0000 Subject: Northwest Meet Message-ID: <062020081431.28988.485BBF5C0001CDDE0000713C2200758942040A030A9D0B0A@comcast.net> Hi Rich! I believe arrivals are set for 9/18 and departures on 9/21. You only need a reservation at the Harrison Beach Hotel for 3 nights. Great idea to get your reservations early! Here's a link to the NW Meet page from AHOA - BC website, http://www.healeys.ca/m_30.asp all current ievent nformation is there. Eric Dremel -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Richard Bittmann" > Cascaders, > > I'm looking ahead to the NW Meet. Which nights will we be staying in the > Harrison Beach Hotel? The event dates are Thur-Sun 18th - 21st ofSeptember. > Do we stay over all 4 days? Trying to my get reservation right. > > Rich > _______________________________________________ > Cahc mailing list > Cahc at autox.team.net > http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc From eagnhorn at msn.com Sun Jun 22 22:12:52 2008 From: eagnhorn at msn.com (Edie Anne Horn) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:12:52 -0700 Subject: Newbie considers jumping off the Austin Healey project car cliff Message-ID: Two heads being better than one, I thought sharing your questions and concerns, with minds and knowledge of Healeys greater than mine, would be beneficial. I've sent your email it to the Healey Help-line in hopes of getting you some additional input. There are three individuals I'm aware of through the club functions that are "local". The localist would be Tom Eller (206) 283-1107 in Seattle. Next would be Steve Day (509) 662-5374 in Wenatchee, and Steve Tate at (509) 965-0225 in Yakima. As far as I am concerned, these three are national treasures, and depending upon what level of restoration you desire, all are highly skilled. If you're somewhat mechanically inclined, you may be able to strip the chrome and stuff before turning over to one of them to work on. I know Steve Tate will do partials or complete restorations. Tom Eller does the full meal deal, body, mechanical and engine in his shop. I'm not sure how much Steve Day does in-shop, but having seen his latest Bugeye restoration, he knows how. Another individual who I'm aware of, but operates out of Oregon is John Wilson (541) 933-2016. He did a beautiful job for CAHC member Dennis Saxon on his BJ8, and sold me a boot lid for my Healey. No matter who you may decide to work on it, three words of advice, document, document, document. Photos, diagrams, schematics, and labeling ever nut and bolt, every piece you take off. It makes putting it back together a lot easier, especially months later. There has been a good series of articles in the Austin Healey USA magazine on restoration methods by Roger Moment and Gary Anderson. Hope this helps, and you get additional feedback from others. Nick PS. Our club meeting is thisTuesday, the 24th, at Angelo's -- 601 S.W. 153rd St. in Burien (206) 244-3555. The meeting starts at 7:30, but members get there early for dinner. A good place to meet and quirie others. The club web page has a map if you need one. http://cascadeahc.homestead.com/Angelos.html ---- Original Message ----- From: Murray Kahn To: eagnhorn at msn.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 9:42 AM Subject: Newbie considers jumping off the Austin Healey project car cliff Nick, I emailed a couple of other folks in the Cascade Club as well. I'm wondering if any of you guys may know about a local retired mechanic or private individual that works on other peoples Austin Healeys? I'm considering a 1968 Austin Healey 3000 BJ8 Mk III Project Car but, want to know what resources there may be locally to get the work done. I'm a complete newbie when it comes to cars. I've built many homes, and am very mechanical. I can weld, diagnose, prep and sand pretty darn well but, to be honest..don't know a whole lot about car restoration. I'm trying to decide between buying pseudo project car vs. a great looking driver. My goal is have a nearly perfect driver (not show quality). I'm a perfectionist at heart so, anything I get into will be completed right. I've attached a link of a sample project car that I would consider. Can you give me any advice as to how much of a project I'm getting myself into? Can you lead me to a trustworthy local shop? What kind of money do you think we are talking here if I just brought the untouched car to a shop and said here's my checkbook; make me a great looking reliable driver? a.. I would consider doing all the mechanical removal myself and delivering to a shop for: body repair and re-paint. b.. I would remove all chrome and deliver to a shop for full re-chrome (or at least as needed). c.. Engine check-out and re-build if need (I can remove and deliver to a shop as well) d.. Full check-out electrical system (my weakest talent, probably need to complete car at shop for diagnosis and rebuild). e.. Full check-out on brakes, exhaust, suspension, the works (rely on shop for this work) All your advice would be terrific. Thanks again. I would enjoy talking on the phone if, that's possible for you. Murray http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1968-Austin-Healey-3000-BJ8-MkII I-Phase2-Stored-26-Yrs_W0QQitemZ270245981812QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ22 82QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item270245981812& Murray Kahn 2291 Northeast 60th Street Seattle, Washington 98115 Phone: 206-227-4352 Fax: 206-676-0016 murray at gordiandevelopment.com gordiandevelopment.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] From cruz.n.usa at gmail.com Mon Jun 23 11:12:48 2008 From: cruz.n.usa at gmail.com (Carlos Cruz) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:12:48 -0700 Subject: Newbie considers jumping off the Austin Healey project car cliff In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Hi Murray, > > Glad to hear you have the "Bug". Nick Horn passed along your note. He has > already provided you with several quality resources locally. There are a > couple of items that you should keep in mind as you embark on your > endeavor. Some of these could mean the difference between a happy or sad > ending - regardless of how the quality of the work turns out. > > First scheduling, as you investigate your restoration options make sure to > talk to everyone about how soon they can begin the work and how long it > might take them to complete it. Ask them for a high level plan with an idea > of when you can expect to achieve certain milestones like when will the car > be stripped and primed, engine starting, body fit, painted, etc. This will > help you track progress to an overall schedule. If your goal is to have the > car in your hands and on the road come June 2009 - you have a good idea come > December, March or May if that's going to happen. This will also help you > gauge expenses. If 80% of the schedule is eaten up completing only 20% of > the work - you've blown your budget buy a large, large number. Remember > time is money. The longer your car sits in their shop - the more it will > cost. > > Second outsourcing - this is an off shoot of scheduling. How much of the > work will the shop do and how much will they send out to other service > providers. Find out who they plan to use and look into them. These guys > are good at what they do - hoverer if they're using a machine shop with a 6 > month back log - your car will be delayed no matter what your restorer > does. As it relates to parts - sourcing them might be a place where you can > save yourself some money. Making calls, negotiating best prices and > handling shipping issues may cost you less if you do it yourself rather than > pay the shop to do it for you. This also helps you control the quality of > the parts being used on your car. The Healey List is a tremendous help for > this - if you're not on it yet - join! Remember, time is money. The more > time they spend doing paperwork and researching the more it will cost. > > Third is Budget. When it gets down to it, this is really a simple > exercise. Shop around, talk to a lot of people (references) - learn from > their mistakes. Get your hands on some estimates. Now, take the most > expensive estimate in time and money and apply the Conventional Wisdom > factor - 2 times. Conventional wisdom tells us that these projects never go > as planned. 99.9% of the projects undertaken, Healey or otherwise, never > come in on budget. Unforeseen circumstances, delays, labor increases, etc. > all impact a budget. BTW - the Realistic Factor is 2.5 - 3 times. Some > would say body work is the toughest part of the project, others would say > the mechanicals - in all seriousness - it's writing the checks towards the > end of a project. > > Fourth and probably the most important bit of advice I could give you is > make absolutely certain - given the absolutely worst case scenario - given > the ever-growing sums of money - your better half and family is behind this > project. Include your wife / family in the decision making process. Find > ways for them to be part of the dream. Include them in the tough decisions > as well as the easy ones. Talk about how you'll handle tough decision where > you can't agree - you want the $15K paint job and your wife wants that new > kitchen she's been dreaming about. If others in your life feel like they > are part of the project they will likely embrace the challenges that will > come your way and you'll enjoy the outcome that much more. > > Hopefully I didn't scare you... well, too much at least. All that being > said, These are not cheap projects no matter what your starting point might > be. I would suggest buying the best car your money can find. A $6K basket > case / donor car will probably cost you more in the long run than a $25K > dependable daily driver in need of some TLC. And as Nick suggested - > document, Document, DOCUMENT! Let me know if you have any questions. I > hope to see you on the road soon. > > Cheers, > Carlos Cruz > '60 BN7