From sidea at hosick.net Wed Nov 2 19:12:49 2011 From: sidea at hosick.net (Frank Hosick) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 19:12:49 -0700 Subject: D&L Tech Session Message-ID: <4fbad28f7d69cbde07b91a0f4105d3ab@hosick.net> We will have a technical session at D&L Restoration at 10:00 am on Saturday, November 12th. D&L is a total service restoration shop and did the Gold Concourse restoration on Ron Layton's BN7. We are sure to see some nice projects and learn about what happens when dealing with making old cars new. D&L Restoration 3732 Smith Ave. Everett, WA 98201 425 259 8151 GOING SOUTH ON I-5 TOWARD EVERETT 1. take exit 192 (41st St/Evergreen wy) and stay in the left lane 2. at the light at the end of the off ramp, turn left and head east over the freeway 3. at the light at S. 3 Ave turn left, heading north. The road will start curving to the right (east). As it does, take the 1st driveway on the left. D&L is in the back 4. if you have gone to a stop sign, you've gone 75 feet too far GOING NORTH ON I-5 TOWARD EVERETT 1. take exit 192 (41ST St/Broadway) and stay in the left exit lane to 41st. Where the road widens, get in the far right lane 2. at the yield sign on 41st, turn right and get in the far left lane 3. at the light at S. 3 Ave turn left, heading north. The rest is the same as # 3 & 4 above From neilandlois at comcast.net Thu Nov 3 17:04:17 2011 From: neilandlois at comcast.net (Neil and Lois) Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 17:04:17 -0700 Subject: activities Message-ID: <2957B89A1E7147DF84F7E66FBE44A038@lois> Fall is here and that means winter is not far behind. Please remember to put our annual Christmas party on your calendar. It is Dec. 3rd. Go to our web page for all of the information. Let's attend the tech sessions that Frank is arranging for our winter activity. I promise spring will come with summer to follow and I will again fill our weekends with fun tours and events. Lois Buhman Activity Coordinator From jmcd206 at msn.com Sat Nov 5 15:28:30 2011 From: jmcd206 at msn.com (Jim McDermott) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:28:30 -0700 Subject: Notes from the Oct. Meeting Message-ID: MMWould the person that was good enough to take notes at the October Meeting please foreword them to me so that I can get them in the Magazine. Thank you! Jim McD From planezany at aol.com Sat Nov 5 18:23:42 2011 From: planezany at aol.com (Dennis) Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Brake switch tip Message-ID: <8CE6A39DAC06C81-F38-C8114@webmail-stg-m05.sysops.aol.com> Got this from the Healey List. Might be of interest to some of you...........Dennis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LBCarCo Tech Tips - Each Chatter a New Reader Submitted Tech Tip! Our Tech Tip this issues tip is from Dan Lamprecht. Thanks Dan ($20.00 will be credited to your LBCarCo account) Please contact us ASAP for further info. Brake Switch For Silicone Fluid (DOT5) There are benefits to using DOT 5 silicone brake fluid, including no absorption of water into your brake lines and no lifting of paint when it spills or leaks. Silicone fluid works great as long as you dono?=t mix it with any other type of fluid, and introduce it into a clean, dry system with new rubber seals throughout. But a typical problem many LBC enthusiasts have complained about is that this silicone fluid is many times not compatible with the hydraulic brake light switches used in our older cars. The switch may work for a while, but in a short time you may notice that it takes heavy pedal force to turn the brake lights on, if at all. Discovering that Harley Davidson uses silicone brake fluid exclusively in their late model bikes, it seemed likely that a Harley switch should be compatible with silicone brake fluid while also being designed to operate with the relatively light pedal force used with motorcycles. I went to the local Harley dealer and purchased 72023-51D BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH KIT REAR. The pipe threads are identical, and the Harley switch has the same 1/4 inch Lucar terminals typically found on our carso?= stock switches. It works great as a low pressure hydraulic brake light switch designed to be used with silicone fluid, while it has a relatively stock appearance on our classic cars. Tech Tip this issues tip is from Dan Lamprecht. Thanks Dan ($20.00 will be credited to your LBCarCo account) Please contact us ASAP for further info. Brake Switch For Silicone Fluid (DOT5) There are benefits to using DOT 5 silicone brake fluid, including no absorption of water into your brake lines and no lifting of paint when it spills or leaks. Silicone fluid works great as long as you dono?=t mix it with any other type of fluid, and introduce it into a clean, dry system with new rubber seals throughout. But a typical problem many LBC enthusiasts have complained about is that this silicone fluid is many times not compatible with the hydraulic brake light switches used in our older cars. The switch may work for a while, but in a short time you may notice that it takes heavy pedal force to turn the brake lights on, if at all. Discovering that Harley Davidson uses silicone brake fluid exclusively in their late model bikes, it seemed likely that a Harley switch should be compatible with silicone brake fluid while also being designed to operate with the relatively light pedal force used with motorcycles. I went to the local Harley dealer and purchased 72023-51D BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH KIT REAR. The pipe threads are identical, and the Harley switch has the same 1/4 inch Lucar terminals typically found on our carso?= stock switches. It works great as a low pressure hydraulic brake light switch designed to be used with silicone fluid, while it has a relatively stock appearance on our classic cars. From bgoodrich at embarqmail.com Sun Nov 6 15:49:12 2011 From: bgoodrich at embarqmail.com (Bruce Goodrich) Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 14:49:12 -0800 Subject: Cahc Digest, Vol 60, Issue 3; Brake Light Switch In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001e01cc9cd6$4eb83050$ec2890f0$@com> Ultimately the Harley switch will fail also. The only switch I found that works is a mechanical switch sold by Street Works http://www.watsons-streetworks.com/brake_switches.html which sells for $40. I have one on my '50 Ford Conv. and '50 Merc. It has an arm that swings down and switches on the brake light. Silicon, because of its absorbent qualities, has a tendency to weep past the seal on the normal brake switch and foul the connection. Bruce Goodrich -----Original Message----- From: cahc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:cahc-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of cahc-request at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:00 AM To: cahc at autox.team.net Subject: Cahc Digest, Vol 60, Issue 3 Send Cahc mailing list submissions to cahc at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cahc-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at cahc-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Cahc digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Notes from the Oct. Meeting (Jim McDermott) 2. Brake switch tip (Dennis) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:28:30 -0700 From: Jim McDermott To: Cascade-team-net List Subject: Notes from the Oct. Meeting Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MMWould the person that was good enough to take notes at the October Meeting please foreword them to me so that I can get them in the Magazine. Thank you! Jim McD ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 21:23:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Dennis To: cahc at autox.team.net Subject: Brake switch tip Message-ID: <8CE6A39DAC06C81-F38-C8114 at webmail-stg-m05.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Got this from the Healey List. Might be of interest to some of you...........Dennis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LBCarCo Tech Tips - Each Chatter a New Reader Submitted Tech Tip! Our Tech Tip this issues tip is from Dan Lamprecht. Thanks Dan ($20.00 will be credited to your LBCarCo account) Please contact us ASAP for further info. Brake Switch For Silicone Fluid (DOT5) There are benefits to using DOT 5 silicone brake fluid, including no absorption of water into your brake lines and no lifting of paint when it spills or leaks. Silicone fluid works great as long as you dono?=t mix it with any other type of fluid, and introduce it into a clean, dry system with new rubber seals throughout. But a typical problem many LBC enthusiasts have complained about is that this silicone fluid is many times not compatible with the hydraulic brake light switches used in our older cars. The switch may work for a while, but in a short time you may notice that it takes heavy pedal force to turn the brake lights on, if at all. Discovering that Harley Davidson uses silicone brake fluid exclusively in their late model bikes, it seemed likely that a Harley switch should be compatible with silicone brake fluid while also being designed to operate with the relatively light pedal force used with motorcycles. I went to the local Harley dealer and purchased 72023-51D BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH KIT REAR. The pipe threads are identical, and the Harley switch has the same 1/4 inch Lucar terminals typically found on our carso?= stock switches. It works great as a low pressure hydraulic brake light switch designed to be used with silicone fluid, while it has a relatively stock appearance on our classic cars. Tech Tip this issues tip is from Dan Lamprecht. Thanks Dan ($20.00 will be credited to your LBCarCo account) Please contact us ASAP for further info. Brake Switch For Silicone Fluid (DOT5) There are benefits to using DOT 5 silicone brake fluid, including no absorption of water into your brake lines and no lifting of paint when it spills or leaks. Silicone fluid works great as long as you dono?=t mix it with any other type of fluid, and introduce it into a clean, dry system with new rubber seals throughout. But a typical problem many LBC enthusiasts have complained about is that this silicone fluid is many times not compatible with the hydraulic brake light switches used in our older cars. The switch may work for a while, but in a short time you may notice that it takes heavy pedal force to turn the brake lights on, if at all. Discovering that Harley Davidson uses silicone brake fluid exclusively in their late model bikes, it seemed likely that a Harley switch should be compatible with silicone brake fluid while also being designed to operate with the relatively light pedal force used with motorcycles. I went to the local Harley dealer and purchased 72023-51D BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH KIT REAR. The pipe threads are identical, and the Harley switch has the same 1/4 inch Lucar terminals typically found on our carso?= stock switches. It works great as a low pressure hydraulic brake light switch designed to be used with silicone fluid, while it has a relatively stock appearance on our classic cars. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Cahc mailing list Cahc at autox.team.net http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc End of Cahc Digest, Vol 60, Issue 3 *********************************** ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/4000 - Release Date: 11/06/11 From britishcarranch at hotmail.com Tue Nov 8 05:32:19 2011 From: britishcarranch at hotmail.com (Steve Day) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:32:19 +0000 Subject: follow up to brake switch Message-ID: Thanks Dennis! My local Harley shop has one in stock and the price is $20.95. I have not gotten one to do a test yet, but sounds promising. I think the problem starts when the car is switched to silicone fluid, and by it`s chemical properties, the silicone scrubs the system of any remaining old glycol fluid and deposits the goo in the passage of the original brake switch. That causes it to be sluggish, take more pressure to activate, or quit. The new replacement switches are notoriously failure prone (from anybody), and this may be the quality replacement option we have been looking for. Silicone is a good choice, IF you start with a virgin system. New master cyl. , new caliper rubbers, new wheel cylinders and new hoses, and flush the metal lines. You want NO old glycol fluid or contamination anywhere in the system. Then follow with a regular bleeding process each year, and flushng every three to five, (just like the glycol system should get). There is one of the major world wide brake part vendors out there that claims silicone "is a lifetime no maintenance fluid". Sorry, that is NOT true They also claim that silicone won`t allow water into the system, not true either. Moisture is still allowed into the system, but won`t mix with the silicone fluid, it is repelled and goes to the lowest points to still cause problems. That`s why you must bleed and flush regularly. This info comes from the scientists at the brake fluid companies and is backed up with independant lab testing...... and my hands on experience in the shop. For a complete article on brake fluid including silicone, go to my web site, www.britishcarranch.homestead.com, under tech tips. Steve Day British Car Ranch From sidea at hosick.net Thu Nov 10 16:21:24 2011 From: sidea at hosick.net (Frank Hosick) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:21:24 -0800 Subject: Saturday Tech Session Message-ID: <628da01d747429d43376fb008f3010dc@hosick.net> I just talked to Louie at D&L Restoration. He is getting ready for our technical session on Saturday and will have donuts. Check www.restoreyourcar.com to see some of their projects including Ron and Dianne Layton's Austin Healey. Saturday, November 12 at 10:00 am D&L Restoration 3732 Smith Ave. Everett, WA 98201 425 259 8151 GOING SOUTH ON I-5 TOWARD EVERETT 1. take exit 192 (41st St/Evergreen wy) and stay in the left lane 2. at the light at the end of the off ramp, turn left and head east over the freeway 3. at the light at S. 3 Ave turn left, heading north. The road will start curving to the right (east). As it does, take the 1st driveway on the left. D&L is in the back 4. if you have gone to a stop sign, you've gone 75 feet too far GOING NORTH ON I-5 TOWARD EVERETT 1. take exit 192 (41ST St/Broadway) and stay in the left exit lane to 41st. Where the road widens, get in the far right lane 2. at the yield sign on 41st, turn right and get in the far left lane 3. at the light at S. 3 Ave turn left, heading north. The rest is the same as # 3 & 4 above From jmcd206 at msn.com Fri Nov 11 07:56:44 2011 From: jmcd206 at msn.com (Jim McDermott) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:56:44 -0800 Subject: D & L Tech Session Message-ID: Cascaders, Ron & Dianne Layton, Jim & Terri McDermott and Frank & Mary Hosick are going out to lunch after the tech session and you are cordially invited to join us. Let Terri or Dianne know at the tech session that your would like to join us, so we can get a count for the restaurant. We will be going to Patty's Egg Nest in Everett. Thanks Jim McDermott From curtisgborden at clearwire.net Fri Nov 11 15:26:31 2011 From: curtisgborden at clearwire.net (curt borden) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:26:31 -0800 Subject: follow up to brake switch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: cahc-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:cahc-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Steve Day Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 4:32 AM To: listers Subject: follow up to brake switch Thanks Dennis! My local Harley shop has one in stock and the price is $20.95. I have not gotten one to do a test yet, but sounds promising. I think the problem starts when the car is switched to silicone fluid, and by it`s chemical properties, the silicone scrubs the system of any remaining old glycol fluid and deposits the goo in the passage of the original brake switch. That causes it to be sluggish, take more pressure to activate, or quit. The new replacement switches are notoriously failure prone (from anybody), and this may be the quality replacement option we have been looking for. Silicone is a good choice, IF you start with a virgin system. New master cyl. , new caliper rubbers, new wheel cylinders and new hoses, and flush the metal lines. You want NO old glycol fluid or contamination anywhere in the system. Then follow with a regular bleeding process each year, and flushng every three to five, (just like the glycol system should get). There is one of the major world wide brake part vendors out there that claims silicone "is a lifetime no maintenance fluid". Sorry, that is NOT true They also claim that silicone won`t allow water into the system, not true either. Moisture is still allowed into the system, but won`t mix with the silicone fluid, it is repelled and goes to the lowest points to still cause problems. That`s why you must bleed and flush regularly. This info comes from the scientists at the brake fluid companies and is backed up with independant lab testing...... and my hands on experience in the shop. For a complete article on brake fluid including silicone, go to my web site, www.britishcarranch.homestead.com, under tech tips. Steve Day British Car Ranch _______________________________________________ Cahc mailing list Cahc at autox.team.net http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo/cahc ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2092/3997 - Release Date: 11/04/11 From planezany at aol.com Wed Nov 16 18:46:14 2011 From: planezany at aol.com (Dennis) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:46:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Christmas Party Reminder Message-ID: <8CE72E1D384A61E-B0C-846EF@webmail-d044.sysops.aol.com> Saturday, December 3, 2011 1:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. The River Mobile estates Community Center 3611 I Street NE. Auburn WA 98002. Please R.S.V.P. by November 28 to Jan Saxon at jksaxon at aol.com or call (253) 939-2723. $10.00 Per person b payment required by 11/28/11 Make payment to Jan Saxon 13212 SE 336th Place, Auburn WA 98092 Bring a dessert for the dessert bar. BYOB Coffee, tea and water will be provided Bring your Hot Wheel car for the Healey Races. White Elephant gift exchange minimun $10.00 or more. If you have any healey clothing you no longer wear and it is in good shape, bring it and put on the swap table. See website for driving directions: http://cascadeahc.homestead.com/home.html From planezany at aol.com Fri Nov 18 18:36:20 2011 From: planezany at aol.com (Dennis) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:36:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Tech tip Message-ID: <8CE7472C6362FA2-82C-91012@webmail-d062.sysops.aol.com> Saw this on the LBC Nerwsletter. Dennis (not the tipster) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LBCarCo Tech Tips - Each Chatter a New Reader Submitted Tech Tip! Our Tech Tip this issues tip is from Dennis Sokol. Thanks Dennis ($20.00 will be credited to your LBCarCo account) Please contact us ASAP for further info. Just in time for winter storage o?= keeping varmints out. There is a product on the market called a Washing Machine Lint Trap, available in Household Goods departments. It resembles a large condom made out of mesh aluminum. Slipping this device over your tailpipe(s) will keep out varmints while allowing the exhaust system to breathe. An advantage of this configuration is that ito?=s easy-on, easy-off for those who run their engines periodically in the winter, but if you forget to remove it - no harm done! Cut to length and close with a cable tie. It can be re-used each year. Our Tech Tip this issues tip is from Dennis Sokol. Thanks Dennis ($20.00 will be credited to your LBCarCo account) Please contact us ASAP for further info. Just in time for winter storage o?= keeping varmints out. There is a product on the market called a Washing Machine Lint Trap, available in Household Goods departments. It resembles a large condom made out of mesh aluminum. Slipping this device over your tailpipe(s) will keep out varmints while allowing the exhaust system to breathe. An advantage of this configuration is that ito?=s easy-on, easy-off for those who run their engines periodically in the winter, but if you forget to remove it - no harm done! Cut to length and close with a cable tie. It can be re-used each year. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Keep those TIPS and Humorous Stories coming, WE ALWAYS NEED THEM! From mmasumot at mindspring.com Mon Nov 21 17:29:46 2011 From: mmasumot at mindspring.com (mmasumot at mindspring.com) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 16:29:46 -0800 Subject: Where's the salt? Hidden in your Thanksgiving menu EarthLink - Health News Message-ID: http://start.mindspring.net/article/hea?guid=20111121/44d321e4-2166-457a-b81e -8d70ec5ef401