From patintexas at icloud.com  Tue Jun  2 16:53:17 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 17:53:17 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fender question
Message-ID: <3AE0E05B-5C1A-45BB-9871-1B5C87C5B86B@icloud.com>

Is there a difference in the flair on the fenders after the larger flairs in 67.5? I thought I saw somewhere that the flair stayed the same from 67.5 until 69 and the 70 had a different flair. I thought I found that on Rallie?s site but I don?t see it today. 

Thanks. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


From hrhaslett at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  2 17:09:48 2020
From: hrhaslett at yahoo.com (Roy Haslett)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 23:09:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fender question
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References: <3AE0E05B-5C1A-45BB-9871-1B5C87C5B86B@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <127445594.1978878.1591139388812@mail.yahoo.com>

 If anyone needs a left front fender from an early 67 1600 let me know.? Very clean and includes light baskets for head and parking lights.Thanks,Roy Haslett
    On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 03:56:31 PM PDT, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Is there a difference in the flair on the fenders after the larger flairs in 67.5? I thought I saw somewhere that the flair stayed the same from 67.5 until 69 and the 70 had a different flair. I thought I found that on Rallie?s site but I don?t see it today. 

Thanks. 

Peace,
Pat

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From orangedawg at hotmail.com  Tue Jun  2 17:23:31 2020
From: orangedawg at hotmail.com (orangedawg orangedawg)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 23:23:31 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Fender question
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Here is some info I found on Rallye about different fenders/sizes:

Front Fenders vary in the size of the flare<http://www.datsunroadster.com/PIC_PAGES/PARTS_INFO_PAGES/fender_flare_info.htm>, the park light hole<http://www.datsunroadster.com/PIC_PAGES/PARTS_INFO_PAGES/fender_holes_info.htm>, and what the shape of the side marker light hole<http://www.datsunroadster.com/PIC_PAGES/PARTS_INFO_PAGES/fender_holes_info.htm> is, if any. Emblem holes, (if predrilled), may be different on some years. Some fenders were drilled for other countries or not drilled at all. Although some people feel the shape of the rear upper end of the fenders where they hit the cowl and upper part of the door is different between 68-70 and older cars, there seems to be as much difference between one 68 fender to another 68 or from one 67 1/2 fender to another 67 1/2 as there is between a 67 1/2 and a 68! The rear most part of the 63-64 and 65 1500 fenders differ, although NOS replacement fenders have had only one of the styles for at least 28 years. (Pics and Info)<http://www.datsunroadster.com/PIC_PAGES/PARTS_INFO_PAGES/fender_holes_info.htm#POINT> Fenders depending on production run also can vary around headlight area as well. It was not intentional, they just vary due to inadequate quality control. The headlight rims themselves can vary a lot. Always fit the headlight scoop to the fender before painting the fender. Don't assume the mounting holes (if they are already there) for the headlight scoop trims are in the best place. I did have a body shop tell me one time it was easy to flare the 1500 fender into a medium flare 65-67 1600 fender than it was to "deflare" a later fender to work on the earlier 1600. But that was just one person's opinion.


The last time we did a warehouse reshuffling I pulled a large number of new fenders and doors out and had a couple of people try to find differences. We also recently hung a few on undamaged cars. We found far more variance in the SAME part than we did from one year's part to another year's. We compared new parts to new parts, new to used and used to used. If you look at a bunch of 65 and 66 cars that all would have the "older" point shape, they vary also.

Hanging the same fender on multiple same year undamaged cars gives different results also. The way body panels fit on the roadster isn't that precise. There are what I could see as different "point shapes" on the rear upper part of the fender, (different angles, curves), but I found all these different "shapes" on 68-70 fenders and all of them on 63-67 1/2 fenders. For each year we found some that were more blunt, or more "pointed", and some that more of a two step curve as the fender heads down the door line. I almost wonder if the rearmost upper "tip" of the fender was hand formed after pulling the fender out of the forming tool, with the variances we found. All of the fenders are the exact same length from rear most upper point tip to the headlight edge. The mounting position of the fender is a tad bit different though. Starting on the 68 models, when the cowl and windshield were changed, the upper rear most hanging bracket was altered. Unlike the nut on the older cars, which was fixed, the nut on the 68-70 cars was made to float in it's receptacle to allow a little fender position adjustment. At it's maximum "outward-mounting" position though, it still forces the fender inward 1/4 inch from the 67 1/2's. The change in the nut location may be the only consistant difference between a 67 1/2 fender and a 68.

So right off the bat, all other things being equal, hanging a 68-70 fender on an older car will give an decreased gap. Hanging an older fender on a 68-70 will give an increased gap. But things are never equal and these cars and their parts seem to vary A LOT. You can compensate for this regardless of the problem by slotting the mounting hole on the car or redoing the bracket. Body shops sometimes have to do far worse than this repairing accident damage.

Most of this is moot anyway as only some of the different fenders are available in a new part, and used parts may have far more problems than just a tiny edge shape difference (if there ever was one!)


I too thought I read somewhere that there are different flares between 1970 and others, but I can't recall where I read that.

Allen
________________________________
From: Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Roy Haslett via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:09 PM
To: Datsun list <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fender question

If anyone needs a left front fender from an early 67 1600 let me know.  Very clean and includes light baskets for head and parking lights.
Thanks,
Roy Haslett

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 03:56:31 PM PDT, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:


Is there a difference in the flair on the fenders after the larger flairs in 67.5? I thought I saw somewhere that the flair stayed the same from 67.5 until 69 and the 70 had a different flair. I thought I found that on Rallie?s site but I don?t see it today.

Thanks.

Peace,
Pat

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From patintexas at icloud.com  Tue Jun  2 17:30:11 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 18:30:11 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fender question
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR03MB2717E3446B86903694EDC23ACA8B0@MWHPR03MB2717.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>
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Ok, thanks. Maybe the differences Is the side market lights or lack there of. 

I?m getting too old to keep all this information in my head. Anyone know where I can get a bigger one?

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Jun 2, 2020, at 6:23 PM, orangedawg orangedawg <orangedawg at hotmail.com> wrote:

?
Here is some info I found on Rallye about different fenders/sizes:

Front Fenders vary in the size of the flare, the park light hole, and what the shape of the side marker light hole is, if any. Emblem holes, (if predrilled), may be different on some years. Some fenders were drilled for other countries or not drilled at all. Although some people feel the shape of the rear upper end of the fenders where they hit the cowl and upper part of the door is different between 68-70 and older cars, there seems to be as much difference between one 68 fender to another 68 or from one 67 1/2 fender to another 67 1/2 as there is between a 67 1/2 and a 68! The rear most part of the 63-64 and 65 1500 fenders differ, although NOS replacement fenders have had only one of the styles for at least 28 years. (Pics and Info) Fenders depending on production run also can vary around headlight area as well. It was not intentional, they just vary due to inadequate quality control. The headlight rims themselves can vary a lot. Always fit the headlight scoop to the fender before painting the fender. Don't assume the mounting holes (if they are already there) for the headlight scoop trims are in the best place. I did have a body shop tell me one time it was easy to flare the 1500 fender into a medium flare 65-67 1600 fender than it was to "deflare" a later fender to work on the earlier 1600. But that was just one person's opinion.


The last time we did a warehouse reshuffling I pulled a large number of new fenders and doors out and had a couple of people try to find differences. We also recently hung a few on undamaged cars. We found far more variance in the SAME part than we did from one year's part to another year's. We compared new parts to new parts, new to used and used to used. If you look at a bunch of 65 and 66 cars that all would have the "older" point shape, they vary also.
Hanging the same fender on multiple same year undamaged cars gives different results also. The way body panels fit on the roadster isn't that precise. There are what I could see as different "point shapes" on the rear upper part of the fender, (different angles, curves), but I found all these different "shapes" on 68-70 fenders and all of them on 63-67 1/2 fenders. For each year we found some that were more blunt, or more "pointed", and some that more of a two step curve as the fender heads down the door line. I almost wonder if the rearmost upper "tip" of the fender was hand formed after pulling the fender out of the forming tool, with the variances we found. All of the fenders are the exact same length from rear most upper point tip to the headlight edge. The mounting position of the fender is a tad bit different though. Starting on the 68 models, when the cowl and windshield were changed, the upper rear most hanging bracket was altered. Unlike the nut on the older cars, which was fixed, the nut on the 68-70 cars was made to float in it's receptacle to allow a little fender position adjustment. At it's maximum "outward-mounting" position though, it still forces the fender inward 1/4 inch from the 67 1/2's. The change in the nut location may be the only consistant difference between a 67 1/2 fender and a 68.

So right off the bat, all other things being equal, hanging a 68-70 fender on an older car will give an decreased gap. Hanging an older fender on a 68-70 will give an increased gap. But things are never equal and these cars and their parts seem to vary A LOT. You can compensate for this regardless of the problem by slotting the mounting hole on the car or redoing the bracket. Body shops sometimes have to do far worse than this repairing accident damage.

Most of this is moot anyway as only some of the different fenders are available in a new part, and used parts may have far more problems than just a tiny edge shape difference (if there ever was one!)



I too thought I read somewhere that there are different flares between 1970 and others, but I can't recall where I read that.

Allen
From: Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Roy Haslett via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:09 PM
To: Datsun list <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Fender question
 
If anyone needs a left front fender from an early 67 1600 let me know.  Very clean and includes light baskets for head and parking lights.
Thanks,
Roy Haslett

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 03:56:31 PM PDT, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:


Is there a difference in the flair on the fenders after the larger flairs in 67.5? I thought I saw somewhere that the flair stayed the same from 67.5 until 69 and the 70 had a different flair. I thought I found that on Rallie?s site but I don?t see it today. 

Thanks. 

Peace,
Pat

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From rpboland at aol.com  Wed Jun  3 11:28:56 2020
From: rpboland at aol.com (rpboland at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2020 13:28:56 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Alternator Heat Shield Installation
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Hi All,

I have a 68 2000 that still has the alternator on the driver side. I have
the heat shield intended to protect the alternator from the heat of the
exhaust manifold, and I checked and it appears to be the right part number
(14041-25601). However I can't figure out how to install it. Perhaps I'm
missing another bracket (I had to fabricate the manifold brace from an old
tracing). Can anyone help with a photo of one correctly installed, or point
me toward a more detailed drawing?

 

Thanks, Bob Boland

 

1968 2000 Solex

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From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com  Thu Jun  4 05:43:18 2020
From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 11:43:18 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for fender part
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$500 for what? A whole fender?

________________________________
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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 4:40 PM
To: Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Looking for fender part

$500.00  if I have one.
Rod Eaton Rodsdatsun.com Rod at rodsdatsun.com
1-408-314-3006



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

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From: Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: 5/29/20 12:57 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Datsun list <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for fender part

I?m in the process of bringing one of my 67.5s back to life. I?m looking for the front foot of a 67.5-69 right front fender that is straight & no bondo.

I?ve tried a couple of out vendors but have not received return calls within a week. Anyone happen to have one available?

This lock down is giving me time to move this project up to the front burner.

Keep well.

Peace,
Pat

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From alvingogi at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 10:42:13 2020
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 09:42:13 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Fairlady Friday
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FairladyFriday
Craig Carter's Bob Sharp/"Salt Damaged" 2000 Roadster. Restored by Les
Cannaday. Pictures from the Historics in 2015. Super clean racing roadster
with neat parts!

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From patintexas at icloud.com  Mon Jun 15 17:52:44 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 18:52:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for part or information
Message-ID: <mailman.7.1592265168.28011.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>

My search for a 2L transmission crossmember is coming up empty. I either need a 2L crossmember or the measurement of how tall the crossmember is so I can modify one of my crossmembers to fit.

On 311s.org I found photos of the 1.6 vs 2L crossmembers but sadly, there were no dimensions included. I suppose I could scale the two and guess, but I?d rather not.

Anyone have the either?

Keep well.

Peace,
Pat

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From divehatteras at aol.com  Mon Jun 15 20:17:45 2020
From: divehatteras at aol.com (Dave Sommers)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 22:17:45 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for part or information
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Pat

I have one that is not in a car which i could measure for you.  It is for a car I am in process of restoring, so it is not available to you.   If you ask on 311.org or here I would bet someone has one they will part with. 

If you want that down, let me know and I will do the dimensions for you.

Dave Sommers
Dive Hatteras llc
www.divehatteras.com
703-517-3724 boat phone

> On Jun 15, 2020, at 19:53, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> My search for a 2L transmission crossmember is coming up empty. I either need a 2L crossmember or the measurement of how tall the crossmember is so I can modify one of my crossmembers to fit.
>  
> On 311s.org I found photos of the 1.6 vs 2L crossmembers but sadly, there were no dimensions included. I suppose I could scale the two and guess, but I?d rather not.
>  
> Anyone have the either?
>  
> Keep well.
>  
> Peace,
> Pat
>  
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> A hand UP not a hand OUT
>  
> ________________________________________
> 
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Mon Jun 15 20:29:08 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 21:29:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for part or information
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Dave, dimensions would be greatly appreciated. I?ve been digging through 311s.org & going some photos. It appears the mounts are about the same height overall but the lower part of the 2L mount is taller, Which decreases the distance between the mount & the frame. 

I think the main dimensions would be from the top of the crossmember to the part of the crossmember hits the frame plus the front to back offset between the mount holes & the crossmember mounting holes. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Jun 15, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Dave Sommers <divehatteras at aol.com> wrote:

?Pat

I have one that is not in a car which i could measure for you.  It is for a car I am in process of restoring, so it is not available to you.   If you ask on 311.org or here I would bet someone has one they will part with. 

If you want that down, let me know and I will do the dimensions for you.

Dave Sommers
Dive Hatteras llc
www.divehatteras.com
703-517-3724 boat phone

>> On Jun 15, 2020, at 19:53, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
> ?
> My search for a 2L transmission crossmember is coming up empty. I either need a 2L crossmember or the measurement of how tall the crossmember is so I can modify one of my crossmembers to fit.
>  
> On 311s.org I found photos of the 1.6 vs 2L crossmembers but sadly, there were no dimensions included. I suppose I could scale the two and guess, but I?d rather not.
>  
> Anyone have the either?
>  
> Keep well.
>  
> Peace,
> Pat
>  
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> A hand UP not a hand OUT
>  
> ________________________________________
> 
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Mon Jun 15 22:16:47 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 23:16:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Looking for part or information
In-Reply-To: <13B7FCAD-6187-4824-987C-1CEC5A6AA1BC@icloud.com>
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Message-ID: <87B484F1-3EBC-49C7-9DE0-C53F7C263AD9@icloud.com>

A crossmember popped up on eBay just now!

It wouldn?t hurt to get the dimensions of the 2L crossmember & add it to the 311s wiki. 

Thanks for all the suggestions. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Jun 15, 2020, at 9:29 PM, Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:

?Dave, dimensions would be greatly appreciated. I?ve been digging through 311s.org & going some photos. It appears the mounts are about the same height overall but the lower part of the 2L mount is taller, Which decreases the distance between the mount & the frame. 

I think the main dimensions would be from the top of the crossmember to the part of the crossmember hits the frame plus the front to back offset between the mount holes & the crossmember mounting holes. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Jun 15, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Dave Sommers <divehatteras at aol.com> wrote:

?Pat

I have one that is not in a car which i could measure for you.  It is for a car I am in process of restoring, so it is not available to you.   If you ask on 311.org or here I would bet someone has one they will part with. 

If you want that down, let me know and I will do the dimensions for you.

Dave Sommers
Dive Hatteras llc
www.divehatteras.com
703-517-3724 boat phone

>> On Jun 15, 2020, at 19:53, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
> ?
> My search for a 2L transmission crossmember is coming up empty. I either need a 2L crossmember or the measurement of how tall the crossmember is so I can modify one of my crossmembers to fit.
>  
> On 311s.org I found photos of the 1.6 vs 2L crossmembers but sadly, there were no dimensions included. I suppose I could scale the two and guess, but I?d rather not.
>  
> Anyone have the either?
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From 67duetto at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 07:21:01 2020
From: 67duetto at gmail.com (Duetto)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2020 09:21:01 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] ISO Left front Headlight Bezel
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 ?Hello All

 ?I am looking for a Left Front Headlight Bezel ( Scoop) for a 69 Roadster

 ?It is for my Race car ,I dont car about the finish ( Bad Chrome 
,peeling)? ,I am going to paint it anyway

would prefer a semi Straight one

Thanks

Rocco


From markmiller at threeboysfarm.com  Sun Jun 21 17:19:30 2020
From: markmiller at threeboysfarm.com (Mark Miller)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2020 16:19:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Interesting offer or: for sale.
In-Reply-To: <96750c3f-89fa-0eae-6ab9-47d99b577004@threeboysfarm.com>
References: <mailman.9.1590084002.8775.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
 <96750c3f-89fa-0eae-6ab9-47d99b577004@threeboysfarm.com>
Message-ID: <b55ee9e4-59d9-ca66-fe4c-7874e0d709dc@threeboysfarm.com>

Hi. I am moving, selling the place I have been living since 2005.? Until 
I settle on where I am going to live long term I am finding temporary 
homes for various things. One of these is a 4 post lift.? I've been 
using it for storage for my roadster; it's been very lightly used: up 
and down a few dozen times (but is is 15 years old).

Long term I'd like to keep it but for now: does anyone nearby (I'm in 
the SF north bay area) want to borrow a lift for a year? Or want to buy 
it (and I'll buy another when I'm ready)?? Great for fitting a second 
car in and/or for working on them (what am I doing? This is not a place 
where I need to expound on how nice having a lift is. If you want one 
you want one.).? If no takers I have a place I can store it, but thought 
someone could find it rather useful.? Details: you'll find it easiest to 
move with a trailer and/or it can be disassembled.? Plugs into 110V, has 
wheels that can be attached, various drip pans.? Lemme know.

Regards,

Mark Miller   707-490-5834
markmiller at threeboysfarm.com



From alvingogi at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 12:19:07 2020
From: alvingogi at gmail.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 11:19:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Happy Father's Day
Message-ID: <CALmuZ6AxpSx4g78PfV8x81mM7MQJOT_y3EJeMDFDxTSMu3qqbw@mail.gmail.com>

Father's Day weekend fun!

Annual hardtop removal ceremony:
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/IMG_8390photo-e1592849760713.jpeg
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/IMG_8381photo.jpeg

On my cruise I spotted this MOPAR. I shouted "Is that a 440?!" and the
young driver replied "NO it's 318 it's really slow!"
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/IMG_8431photo-full.jpg

https://youtu.be/WaqbJ_1-xgI

Refreshing as always to drive topless!
http://www.zcarblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/IMG_8398photo-full.jpeg
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From RoadsterCFE at msn.com  Fri Jun 26 06:51:15 2020
From: RoadsterCFE at msn.com (Craig Erdman)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 12:51:15 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Parts for Sale - Whole Lot & Pick up Only;
 Snohomish Washington
Message-ID: <CY4PR1801MB1910F98D5AC2CC54F489122EAD930@CY4PR1801MB1910.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

Hi All,

I have a sundry of parts that I would like to sell as a lot only (no cherry-picking).

Pick up only. $300 firm. What you don't want I will junk.

Steering gear box from 1969 Datsun 1600
Steering Column (Casement)
Oil pan for Datsun 2000 (OEM Steel)
Radiator for Datsun 2000 (OEM); condition unknown, but no issues about 30 years ago
Radiator fan shroud (2000?)

5-speed transmission for parts; 5th speed blown; No bell housing. Last stored under cover but open to atmosphere so input shaft is rusty but still turns. Steel synchros

Trim piece for back of cockpit area (2 of same piece)

Trim pieces for doors - complete or mostly complete

Front window trim pieces - complete or mostly complete

Tonneau cover for entire cockpit - useful for parts(?) or template, but otherwise junk
Half-Tonneau cover for area behind seats - useful for parts(?) or template, but otherwise junk

Unused by but rusted surface competition clutch pressure plate for Roadster/510.

Datsun 510 start motor

Anything else I can roust up.

Pictures available.

Craig Erdman 206-595-6138 Send text before calling please!
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat Jun 27 07:06:28 2020
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 09:06:28 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110,
 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
Message-ID: <2AAC9063-6E0C-4270-9BAA-95AFCB108669@RWMann.com>

?Yikes! Did they do any Roadsters?

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/1972-datsun-240z-bat-auction-roundup/

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex

Sent from an iPad


From dave at ranteer.com  Sat Jun 27 07:22:33 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 08:22:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110,
 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
In-Reply-To: <2AAC9063-6E0C-4270-9BAA-95AFCB108669@RWMann.com>
References: <2AAC9063-6E0C-4270-9BAA-95AFCB108669@RWMann.com>
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That was not just any Datsun 240Z.  That was one of 40 factory rebuilt cars

-----Original Message-----
From: Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of RWM via Datsun-roadsters
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:06 AM
To: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos

?Yikes! Did they do any Roadsters?

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/1972-datsun-240z-bat-auction-roundup/

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex

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From RWM at RWMann.com  Sat Jun 27 07:45:12 2020
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 09:45:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110,
 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
In-Reply-To: <002501d64c86$05520bc0$0ff62340$@ranteer.com>
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Message-ID: <C865F2A2-E9B6-45A9-BDAD-76EF9F740F74@RWMann.com>

Indeed, and did they do any Roadsters?

- Bob


> On Jun 27, 2020, at 09:25, dave via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?That was not just any Datsun 240Z.  That was one of 40 factory rebuilt cars
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of RWM via Datsun-roadsters
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:06 AM
> To: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
> 
> ?Yikes! Did they do any Roadsters?
> 
> https://www.automobilemag.com/news/1972-datsun-240z-bat-auction-roundup/
> 
> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
> 
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sat Jun 27 08:18:50 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 09:18:50 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110,
 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
In-Reply-To: <C865F2A2-E9B6-45A9-BDAD-76EF9F740F74@RWMann.com>
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No.  it was just those 40 240Z cars

-----Original Message-----
From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com> 
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:45 AM
To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos

Indeed, and did they do any Roadsters?

- Bob


> On Jun 27, 2020, at 09:25, dave via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?That was not just any Datsun 240Z.  That was one of 40 factory rebuilt cars
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of RWM via Datsun-roadsters
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:06 AM
> To: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
> 
> ?Yikes! Did they do any Roadsters?
> 
> https://www.automobilemag.com/news/1972-datsun-240z-bat-auction-roundup/
> 
> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
> 
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From divehatteras at aol.com  Sat Jun 27 08:36:21 2020
From: divehatteras at aol.com (Dave Sommers)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 10:36:21 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110,
 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
In-Reply-To: <000e01d64c8d$e21d9ea0$a658dbe0$@ranteer.com>
References: <002501d64c86$05520bc0$0ff62340$@ranteer.com>
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No. The roadster never got that level of love from Nissan.  

 It was difficult for them to get 40 Z cars rebuilt to the quality level necessary for that program.  I would imagine doing even 20 roadsters would prove near impossible. 

Dave Sommers
Dive Hatteras
703-517-3724

> On Jun 27, 2020, at 10:18, dave via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> No.  it was just those 40 240Z cars
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com> 
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:45 AM
> To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
> 
> Indeed, and did they do any Roadsters?
> 
> - Bob
> 
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2020, at 09:25, dave via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?That was not just any Datsun 240Z.  That was one of 40 factory rebuilt cars
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of RWM via Datsun-roadsters
>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:06 AM
>> To: Datsun List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
>> 
>> ?Yikes! Did they do any Roadsters?
>> 
>> https://www.automobilemag.com/news/1972-datsun-240z-bat-auction-roundup/
>> 
>> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
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From davesmbox at aol.com  Sat Jun 27 11:37:53 2020
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:37:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110,
 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
In-Reply-To: <000e01d64c8d$e21d9ea0$a658dbe0$@ranteer.com>
References: <002501d64c86$05520bc0$0ff62340$@ranteer.com>
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Message-ID: <1976094893.3258697.1593279473616@mail.yahoo.com>

What did Nissan sell these for. Also I would think you could do a frame off for under $80,000, So this seems steepDave


-----Original Message-----
From: dave via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
To: 'RWM' <RWM at RWMann.com>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, Jun 27, 2020 10:18 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos

No.? it was just those 40 240Z cars

-----Original Message-----
From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com> 
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:45 AM
To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos

Indeed, and did they do any Roadsters?

- Bob


> On Jun 27, 2020, at 09:25, dave via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?That was not just any Datsun 240Z.? That was one of 40 factory rebuilt cars
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:06 AM
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> Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
> 
> ?Yikes! Did they do any Roadsters?
> 
> https://www.automobilemag.com/news/1972-datsun-240z-bat-auction-roundup/
> 
> - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
> 
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 12:14:36 2020
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 13:14:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110,
 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
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I remember $25K being talked about, but if that was the price I suspect
Nissan lost money on then even in the '90s when they did this. I suspect
that was the reason the program was shut down long before they built the
100 I believe were originally planned for.

I could very well be off on both numbers.

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:40 PM davesmbox--- via Datsun-roadsters <
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

> What did Nissan sell these for. Also I would think you could do a frame
> off for under $80,000, So this seems steep
> Dave
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dave via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> To: 'RWM' <RWM at RWMann.com>
> Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Sat, Jun 27, 2020 10:18 am
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240
> as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
>
> No.  it was just those 40 240Z cars
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:45 AM
> To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240
> as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
>
> Indeed, and did they do any Roadsters?
>
> - Bob
>
>
> > On Jun 27, 2020, at 09:25, dave via Datsun-roadsters <
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > ?That was not just any Datsun 240Z.  That was one of 40 factory rebuilt
> cars
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net> On
> Behalf Of RWM via Datsun-roadsters
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> > Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as
> BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
> >
> > ?Yikes! Did they do any Roadsters?
> >
> > https://www.automobilemag.com/news/1972-datsun-240z-bat-auction-roundup/
> >
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 27 14:17:18 2020
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 13:17:18 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110,
 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos
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A Google search says your numbers are good. The 1996 sales price for the restored/rebuilt cars was $25k-$27.5k, which was still too high for most, thus Nissan killed the program in 1997 after only 40 cars were built.

 

Pete

 

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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos

 

I remember $25K being talked about, but if that was the price I suspect Nissan lost money on then even in the '90s when they did this. I suspect that was the reason the program was shut down long before they built the 100 I believe were originally planned for.

 

I could very well be off on both numbers.

 

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:40 PM davesmbox--- via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> > wrote:

What did Nissan sell these for. Also I would think you could do a frame off for under $80,000, So this seems steep 

Dave



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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos

No.  it was just those 40 240Z cars


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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1972 Datsun 240Z Sells at Auction for $110, 240 as BaT Sells to Hearst Autos

Indeed, and did they do any Roadsters?

- Bob


> On Jun 27, 2020, at 09:25, dave via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> > wrote:
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> ?That was not just any Datsun 240Z.  That was one of 40 factory rebuilt cars
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> 
> ?Yikes! Did they do any Roadsters?
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> https://www.automobilemag.com/news/1972-datsun-240z-bat-auction-roundup/
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Jun 28 17:22:47 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2020 18:22:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] soft top
Message-ID: <000001d64da3$096d3bd0$1c47b370$@ranteer.com>

I am installing the soft top on an early 67 roadster.

 

I see this:
http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.SoftTopInstall

 

Anyone have anything better?  We have already decided to do the snaps in the
back first, then do the front.  I think that makes more sense.

 

Btw I found a generic gasket for the front where it meets the windshield -
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Sun Jun 28 20:16:39 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2020 21:16:39 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] soft top
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I?ve never installed a soft top myself but have had a couple installed by shops. Before you cut anything for the snaps, make sure the top will fit. The shop I used ? who had been doing tops for decades - had to add material to the back of the top to make it long enough. The top was a Robins top, picked up from one of our suppliers. Robbins used to have problems with these tops but I don?t know if they still do. This was in about 2005 or so.

Where did you find the gasket?

Good luck with the install.

Peace,
Pat

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From: dave via Datsun-roadsters
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 9:07 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] soft top

I am installing the soft top on an early 67 roadster.

I see this:? http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.SoftTopInstall

Anyone have anything better?? We have already decided to do the snaps in the back first, then do the front.? I think that makes more sense.

Btw I found a generic gasket for the front where it meets the windshield - $12!

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From briconroy at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 28 20:24:21 2020
From: briconroy at yahoo.com (Brian Conroy)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 02:24:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Roadsters] soft top
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Be careful, it?s a fine line between getting it too tight and too loose. I installed mine a little tight and it is not easy to put up. If I had to do it over again I would do it on a medium warm day and make sure it could be put up easily. However, you don?t want it so loose that it flaps while you?re driving.

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I am installing the soft top on an early 67 roadster.

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I see this:? http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.SoftTopInstall

 ?

Anyone have anything better?? We have already decided to do the snaps in the back first, then do the front.? I think that makes more sense.

 ?

Btw I found a generic gasket for the front where it meets the windshield - $12!
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Sun Jun 28 20:29:30 2020
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2020 21:29:30 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] soft top
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My 67.5 has adjusters on the pivots behind the doors. I never found any information about how to set them when installing a new top. 

I suspect that most of the years have these adjustable pivots but haven?t researched it. 

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Jun 28, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Brian Conroy via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

? Be careful, it?s a fine line between getting it too tight and too loose. I installed mine a little tight and it is not easy to put up. If I had to do it over again I would do it on a medium warm day and make sure it could be put up easily. However, you don?t want it so loose that it flaps while you?re driving.


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On Sunday, June 28, 2020, 10:09 PM, dave via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:

I am installing the soft top on an early 67 roadster.

 

I see this:  http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.SoftTopInstall

 

Anyone have anything better?  We have already decided to do the snaps in the back first, then do the front.  I think that makes more sense.

 

Btw I found a generic gasket for the front where it meets the windshield - $12!

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From divehatteras at aol.com  Sun Jun 28 23:54:26 2020
From: divehatteras at aol.com (Dave Sommers)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 01:54:26 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] soft top
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I have done top installs at least 6 to 8 times, sorta lost track. I have not done any early cars, just high windshield ones so take that into consideration. It is going to take you a good bit of time to do it properly (prob 5 hours) and it really helps to have the right tools to punch the holes and slots for the fasteners and a good snap set tool if doing snaps for the frame pads. You must take time and be careful with measurements and punching for fasteners to have excellent fit, but its not impossible task.  I have found the Robbins tops to be very predictable in size and fit.  The vinyl ones are bit easier to work with than the canvass, but the canvass can come out very nice.

Heres how I have done them in the past, others may have different method, but this works for me and my skill level.

Take a few minutes to measure up the center line of the car between the rear hold down clips and mark that using a piece of blue tape or the like.  Mark the front center similarly, top of the windshield works fine.  Find the center of both front and rear of new top and mark with caulk marks.  I put the rear bar into the top first and place the top onto the car making sure to have it centered over the rear mark and pull it over frame. Make sure it is even on both sides of the car where it meets the window and doors.  You then pull the front edge of top under the front bow and get it snug across the frame and caulk mark the front where it bends under the front bow all across the top.  This is the line up mark that tells you how much material goes under the bow clamp. 

Once satisfied that it is pretty much lined up well on the front bow and appears right across the frame and not crooked on the car it's time to take it back off. Lay it upside down on clean surface.  Take the frame and front bow off the car and match up the front bow with the caulk marks you made in the test fit.  Using the clamping metal start in the middle and work to the outside edges securing the top onto the bowM i do every other screw until I know the fit is good.  It is vital that you have the top centered on the bow and pull it under the clamp at least to your marked line and as even as possible across the bow.  I have found that you want to go just slightly beyond you caulk marks when putting the front onto the bow so the top isn't too loose.  It may be difficult to get the top to makes the turns at the outside ends smoothly but this can be done and will effect how the top looks at the outside ends when on the car.  There will be a good bit of excess material showing along the backside of the clamp but don't cut all this off just yet as you can use this to pull tighter if needed later.  You will trim this excess off with a razor knife before glueing down the gasket.

Top and frame goes back on the car and you get to see if it looks decent across the bows and is straight on the car.  You may have to make adjustments and even take the clamp completely off the front of top and try again, but probably not if you center measured and were careful.  If you have adjustments at the main frame pivot mounts, I have always made sure they were adjusted down most of the way and the rear hoop in the lowest position.  

If all looks good, caulk mark the twisty locations and make sure you dont pull the top off center in the process.  Now you hold your breath and punch the first holes into the top and install the twist fasteners. You can actually punch most of the holes right on the car IF YOU ARE CAREFUL and don't do allow your backer to rest on sheet metal that can be bent and have it well padded. It may be better to remove the top to punch most holes. I?ve done it both ways depending on how fancy the paint was.  

Once the twist fasteners are in and top attached to the car, pull the skirt down over each of the successive lift the dots and caulk mark where the stud sits on the skirt. They all should pretty much lay in the center of the skirt spaced evenly between the stitching.  Use the punch tool or a razor knife to make slits and hole for the fasteners and install them. I do them one at a time to make sure i get the skirt tight between them.  Also, the ?dot? goes forward on both sides. So watch how you punch the holes. 

Once all the lift the dots are in the top should look pretty good on the car.  If it has some loose or small wrinkles you can figure out where to pull it tighter under the front bow and most the time you can get it to look better.  Cranking up the main hoop height or the rear bow adjustments can make the rear window snug as well as take out small wrinkles.  

Once its as good as you can get it, then you trim off the excess along the bow clamp and glue on the gasket. You can then pull the window tension wires thru and fasten them to the bow with the wire eyelets if you want to use the tension wires.  

It is not the simplest of projects and can be frustrating but most can probably handle if you have rebuilt a roadster or installed an interior, etc.  just take time and be careful as once you punch that hole you live with it.  I have stitched material over my mistakes on the twisty locations once and it looked pretty good, but I have an industrial machine I use for boat canvass work so most wont have that available. 

I will be doing one for another project car in next few months so maybe I make a video of this like every other hack mechanic on utube.

Good luck on it.

Dave Sommers
Dive Hatteras llc
www.divehatteras.com
703-517-3724 boat phone

>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 22:30, Pat Horne via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> ?My 67.5 has adjusters on the pivots behind the doors. I never found any information about how to set them when installing a new top. 
> 
> I suspect that most of the years have these adjustable pivots but haven?t researched it. 
> 
> Peace,
> Pat
> 
> Pat Horne 
> We support Habitat for Humanity
> 
> 
> On Jun 28, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Brian Conroy via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ? Be careful, it?s a fine line between getting it too tight and too loose. I installed mine a little tight and it is not easy to put up. If I had to do it over again I would do it on a medium warm day and make sure it could be put up easily. However, you don?t want it so loose that it flaps while you?re driving.
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
> 
> On Sunday, June 28, 2020, 10:09 PM, dave via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I am installing the soft top on an early 67 roadster.
> 
>  
> 
> I see this:  http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.SoftTopInstall
> 
>  
> 
> Anyone have anything better?  We have already decided to do the snaps in the back first, then do the front.  I think that makes more sense.
> 
>  
> 
> Btw I found a generic gasket for the front where it meets the windshield - $12!
> 
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From dave at ranteer.com  Mon Jun 29 15:17:02 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 16:17:02 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  soft top
References: <000001d64da3$096d3bd0$1c47b370$@ranteer.com> 
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Here is the gasket I am using



 

From: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> 
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 9:17 PM
To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] soft top

 

I?ve never installed a soft top myself but have had a couple installed by shops. Before you cut anything for the snaps, make sure the top will fit. The shop I used ? who had been doing tops for decades - had to add material to the back of the top to make it long enough. The top was a Robins top, picked up from one of our suppliers. Robbins used to have problems with these tops but I don?t know if they still do. This was in about 2005 or so.

 

Where did you find the gasket?

 

Good luck with the install.

 

Peace,

Pat

 

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A hand UP not a hand OUT

 

From: dave via Datsun-roadsters <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 9:07 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Roadsters] soft top

 

I am installing the soft top on an early 67 roadster.

 

I see this:   <http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.SoftTopInstall> http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.SoftTopInstall

 

Anyone have anything better?  We have already decided to do the snaps in the back first, then do the front.  I think that makes more sense.

 

Btw I found a generic gasket for the front where it meets the windshield - $12!

 

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From orangedawg at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 29 15:28:46 2020
From: orangedawg at hotmail.com (orangedawg orangedawg)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 21:28:46 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  soft top
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On a side note, the stock weatherstrip is still available from Nissan.  97785-12900 I think.  It cost me about $25.  Just ordered one last month for my soft top install (though I will probably hire that out, I don't feel confident enough in doing a self-install).

Allen
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From: Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of dave via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 2:17 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: soft top


Here is the gasket I am using

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From: Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 9:17 PM
To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] soft top



I?ve never installed a soft top myself but have had a couple installed by shops. Before you cut anything for the snaps, make sure the top will fit. The shop I used ? who had been doing tops for decades - had to add material to the back of the top to make it long enough. The top was a Robins top, picked up from one of our suppliers. Robbins used to have problems with these tops but I don?t know if they still do. This was in about 2005 or so.



Where did you find the gasket?



Good luck with the install.



Peace,

Pat



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From: dave via Datsun-roadsters<mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 9:07 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net<mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Roadsters] soft top



I am installing the soft top on an early 67 roadster.



I see this:  http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.SoftTopInstall



Anyone have anything better?  We have already decided to do the snaps in the back first, then do the front.  I think that makes more sense.



Btw I found a generic gasket for the front where it meets the windshield - $12!


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From: alvingogi at gmail.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2020 14:47:25 -0700
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