FW: [DMVR] Drifting?

Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:33:51 -0600

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Resend for the rest of the list.  Speaking of 'a little embarassed'...

-Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam & Greg Scharnberg [mailto:samandgreg@netins.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:30 AM
To: daniel.juliano@rainhail.com
Subject: RE: [DMVR] Drifting?

Daniel:

Glad to hear that you were approached in this manner.  Most folks are in the
same situation you were in and if anything, are a little embarrassed by the
mistake.

Greg Scharnberg

BTW:  Your reply did not include the list so you may want to re-send it.

At 11:07 AM 2/4/2004 -0600, you wrote:

Hey all, 

I've been lurking on this list for awhile, and as a younger attendee of DMVR
events, felt the need to add to the topic. 

I've got a '98 Dodge Neon, and I got a bit stupid at one of the Greyhound
Track (waterloo?) events over the summer.  Came out of a 180 degree turn
mostly sideways due to excessive speed entering the turn (was my first run
thru the course).  Right after the run was approached by a staff member who
politely cautioned me to keep the speed down and not intentionally repeat
what just occurred.  I was happy to comply; it wasn't intentional the first
time.

To add to the current topic - someone acting stupid on course may not be
intending to do so.  I appreciated the light demeanor of the staff that
approached me, and caution others to do likewise.  And yes, I think a
written policy on 'drifting' would be impossible to define.  Probably best
to stick to what the justice said, "I know it when I see it".

Also, I'd really like to attend a 'drifiting' event, but also agree it'd be
wise for dmvr not to sanction such an event given the possible liability.

-Dan 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Sam & Greg Scharnberg [ mailto:samandgreg@netins.net
<mailto:samandgreg@netins.net> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:50 AM 
To: dmvr@autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: [DMVR] Drifting? 

I don't think we can stop stupidity.  We just need to stop stupidity while 
driving.  :-) 

Greg 

At 11:46 AM 2/4/2004 -0500, BSHolden@aol.com wrote: 
>knuckledragger@kcweb.net writes: 
> 
> > That reminds me.  As the KCRegion Solo Chair we (KCR) need to come up
with 
> >  some sort of policy regarding "drifting behavior" at Solo2 events.  I 
> might 
> >  suggest that other regions do so as well. 
>----------------- 
>Uh ohh. We got Missourians on the list ;-). 
>   I believe that the development of a fair policy would be difficult if
not 
>impossible. It rests with the co-chairs and SSS's to ensure that
unreasonable 
>behavior on course be noted and that the offender be advised that a repeat 
>offense of stupidity will result in disqualification and ejection from the 
>event. 
>Too objective? Maybe. But sometimes ya gotta go with your gut. 
>   Kinda like obscenity; intentional "drifting" would be difficult to
define 
>as a written policy. But if I see a participant at an event, on course, in 
>the 
>paddock or near the site exhibiting stupidity I will have (and have had) a 
>discussion with them. 
>That usually does the trick. 
> 
>Bart Holden 
>DMVR A.R.E 

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<DIV>Resend for the 
rest of the list.&nbsp; Speaking of 'a little embarassed'...</DIV>
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<DIV>-Dan</DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: Sam &amp; Greg Scharnberg 
[mailto:samandgreg@netins.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 
11:30 AM To: daniel.juliano@rainhail.com Subject: RE: [DMVR] 
Drifting? </DIV>Daniel: Glad to hear that you were 
approached in this manner.&nbsp; Most folks are in the same situation you were 
in and if anything, are a little embarrassed by the mistake. Greg 
Scharnberg BTW:&nbsp; Your reply did not include the list so you may want 
to re-send it. At 11:07 AM 2/4/2004 -0600, you wrote: 
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">Hey all, 
 I've been lurking on this list for awhile, and as a 
 younger attendee of DMVR events, felt the need to add to the topic. 
 I've got a '98 Dodge Neon, and I got a bit stupid at one 
 of the Greyhound Track (waterloo?) events over the summer.&nbsp; Came out of a 
 180 degree turn mostly sideways due to excessive speed entering the turn (was 
 my first run thru the course).&nbsp; Right after the run was approached by a 
 staff member who politely cautioned me to keep the speed down and not 
 intentionally repeat what just occurred.&nbsp; I was happy to comply; it 
 wasn't intentional the first time. To add to the 
 current topic - someone acting stupid on course may not be intending to do 
 so.&nbsp; I appreciated the light demeanor of the staff that approached me, 
 and caution others to do likewise.&nbsp; And yes, I think a written policy on 
 'drifting' would be impossible to define.&nbsp; Probably best to stick to what 
 the justice said, "I know it when I see it". Also, 
 I'd really like to attend a 'drifiting' event, but also agree it'd be wise for 
 dmvr not to sanction such an event given the possible 
 liability. -Dan -----Original Message----- From: Sam &amp; Greg 
 Scharnberg [<A 
 href="mailto:samandgreg@netins.net">mailto:samandgreg@netins.net</A>] 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:50 AM To: dmvr@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [DMVR] 
 Drifting? I don't think we can stop 
 stupidity.&nbsp; We just need to stop stupidity while driving.&nbsp; :-) Greg 
 At 11:46 AM 2/4/2004 -0500, BSHolden@aol.com 
 wrote: &gt;knuckledragger@kcweb.net writes: 
 &gt; &gt; &gt; That reminds me.&nbsp; 
 As the KCRegion Solo Chair we (KCR) need to come up with &gt; &gt;&nbsp; some sort of policy regarding "drifting behavior" at 
 Solo2 events.&nbsp; I &gt; might &gt; &gt;&nbsp; suggest that other regions do so as well. 
 &gt;----------------- &gt;Uh ohh. We 
 got Missourians on the list ;-). &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; I 
 believe that the development of a fair policy would be difficult if not 
 &gt;impossible. It rests with the co-chairs and SSS's to 
 ensure that unreasonable &gt;behavior on course be 
 noted and that the offender be advised that a repeat &gt;offense of stupidity will result in disqualification and ejection 
 from the &gt;event. &gt;Too 
 objective? Maybe. But sometimes ya gotta go with your gut. &gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Kinda like obscenity; intentional "drifting" would be 
 difficult to define &gt;as a written policy. But if I 
 see a participant at an event, on course, in &gt;the &gt;paddock or near the site exhibiting 
 stupidity I will have (and have had) a &gt;discussion 
 with them. &gt;That usually does the trick. 
 &gt; &gt;Bart Holden &gt;DMVR A.R.E _______________________________________________ DMVR mailing list DMVR@autox.team.net 
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