[Fot] 87mm liner needed

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FWIW I've never been able to get true repeatability with stock liners. 
I suspect that the larger the bore size (89mm+) exacerbates the problem 
since there is less material to support the clamping load.
I've had the best results using Ken Gs LA sleeves, requiring only 
finish honing.
YMMV
Glen

-----Original Message-----
From: N197TR4 at cs.com
To: Bill Babcock <Billb at bnj.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:01 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] 87mm liner needed

I wonder if the shape changes to something different everytime the 
torque plate or head is applied.

perhaps the variations may 'stack up' against you.

perhaps the 'perfect' part minimizes this chance.

only conjecture on part. no data.

joe

>I may be misunderstanding this, but the whole idea of a torque plate
>is to get a cylindrical shape when the head is torqued. a repeatable
>measured shape with no pressure applied doesn't seem as important as
>the shape under clamping pressure.
>
>On Nov 8, 2008, at 5:24 PM, N197TR4 at cs.com wrote:
>
>> FOT,
>>
>> I have a torque plate, but also have a fixture inspired by our
>> production methods at John Deere.
>>
>> It controls the shape at the skirt.
>>
>> Using the torque plate drove us bonkers getting repeatability.
>>
>> The fixture means that we start with dimensional stability of the
>> liner, at the time of assembly. What happens to the liner after the
>> head goes on, I dont know, but this method has my confidence.
>>
>> The torque plate is available for borrowing, IF ANY FOT WANTS TO USE 

>> IT.
>>
>> The fixture and process equipment is also available for your use and 

>> I have no financial interest in it's operation. I can help 
coordinate.
>>
>> Joe Alexander
>>
>>
>>
>>> Having had this happen to a couple of engines...I invested in a
>>> torque plate !
>>> The liner will go into a "hourglass" shape when compresse. Never
>>> had a problem
>>> since >
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