[Fot] Never be beaten by equipment

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I used molycote coating on my scuffed wisecos.
The Pistons had shrinked and the coating had a thickness of about 0.3mm at maximum.
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:06:38 
To: fubog1<fubog1 at aol.com>
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In the past I've just honed them in the block with an oversized washer on a head stud to hold em down. 

If that's the wrong proceedure I'm still not to old to learn. 

On another note, I just spoke to Calico coatings and they say they can put anti-friction coating on 

used pistons and put it on a little thicker to make up clearances. How thick I don't know but interesting info 

anyway. 

jimg 



B  

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B 87mm (3.425). I usually use BFEs LA Sleeve liners, they are pretty stout 
compared to stock liners but still need a torque plate hone IMHO. 
Glen 





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At what bore size? 

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B Well not to start a controversy, but I have one on the bench right now, 
torqued down and ready to go, and the mics don't lie. 
The liners tend to waist down around the lower register. 
Glen 






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We did a lot of testing with torque plate and we found NO difference with or 

without. 

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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:21:56 

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B The other point that should be mentioned is that these liners should be honed 

using a torque plate. 

They get out of shape once they are clamped down in place. 

FWIW I use JE pistons and set them at .004, usually with coated skirts as an 

added insurance policy against scuffing. 

Glen 











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My math shows that MadMarx is running .005" piston to wall clearance 
(.13mm/25.4 

mm/inch=.005. B Wiseco's suggested clearance for their forged 87mm slugs is 
.004, 

but others (BFE) B have recommended .006, which is what my machinist is honing 

to. 



On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 1:16 PM, fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com> wrote: 



B I'll try this again, my reply had too much text. 

The manufacturers will call out a recommended clearance, but that's all it 
is. 

The operating speed, temperatures, cooling systems etc all are variables. 

Generally the harder it is run, the more clearance it needs. 

Also pistons can scuff during warm-up, under certain conditions, so it's a 

good thing to get it up to temp before flogging it hard. 

Glen 

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