[Fot] Lucas break in oil

Bob Kramer rkramer3 at austin.rr.com
Sun Apr 12 08:52:35 MDT 2015 

I too have stuck with Valvoline VR1, and I use the off the shelf 20W-50. It has gone from a $2.99 a quart oil to $6.99 and that puts it within a few bucks of some of the dedicated stuff. I may reconsider this in the future and abandon my admittedly too frequent oil dumping schedule.

With the off the shelf VR1 non-synthetic there was a year or so where they took the ZDDP out of it. Sales dropped the they figured out that they had abandoned their customers. 

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> On Apr 12, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> I have not followed all of this thread, so this may be duplication.  When the major oil brands lowered the ZDDP content in their oils, Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil, continued to have ZDDP, but I am not sure whether the amount (%) of ZDDP changed or not.  Valvoline advertises this oil as containing ZDDP and recommends it for flat tappet engines.  Therefore, I have continued to use Valvoline Racing Oil in all of my flat tappet cars.  I also used this same oil in my race car for 24 years and have never had an oil related failure in either the race car or my street cars.  My comments apply to break in oils as well as normal running oil.  I just use a lighter weight for breaking in a street engine.  No break-in required on race engines.
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> Jack
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> From: Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: Bill Dentinger <BillDentin at aol.com>; Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com> 
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net" <t> 
> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2015 8:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas break in oil
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> Interesting, I was recently getting opinions on Rotella locally, as I've heard from a couple of guys they run it in this and that HP motors on a regular basis (non Vintage guys), not just breakin. I sent a note to Shell and they say “T6 5W-40 has approximately 1280 parts per million of ZDDP”.  This is about the same as the Mobil One I run. That said a local detractor said it has too much detergent in his opinion.
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> SOoooo – that’s all I can say, no firsthand experience, but am considering running it. I like the discussion, and BTW the Rotella isn't particularly cheap, have to watch em, it's a 4 qt jug vs most others are 5 qt.
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> Thanks
> Brian
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> From: Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com> 
> Cc: "fot at autox.team.net" <fot at autox.team.net> 
> Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas break in oil
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> I don't have an ax to grind with Lucas Oil products, but I sure do endorse Shell Rotella as a race engine break-in oil.  I always used it exclusively in the diesel engine in my tow vehicle, and we used it to break in race engines as well.
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> Bill Dentinger
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> > On Apr 11, 2015, at 6:35 PM, Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> > I am likewise a distrustful of Lucas oil.  The gear lube display often seen on the counter at auto parts stores demonstrates the climbing effect of their lube and they claim this makes it better than conventional gear lubricants, however, an experimental demonstration posted on the bobistheoilguy website revealed that the lube picked up a large mount of air compared to 'regular' gear lube.  It makes me distrust their other products.
> > 
> > I've used high quality assembly lube, broken in the cam properly, and then did break in miles with Rotella.
> > 
> > Duncan
> > (Texas)
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> >> On 4/11/15 5:58 PM, Glenn Franco via Fot wrote:
> >> I don't subscribe to the Lucas aura. The lubrication additives I have found end up in the pan and have the consistency of hard Jello. I called Lucas and they couldn't put me in contact with an engineer that could explain why their products do this.
> >> 
> >> When I build an engine with a new cam and lifters I use Shell Rotella 15w40 exclusively.
> >> 
> >> I have used their (Lucas) assembly lube (sticky slimey stuff) with no issues however.
> >> 
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> >>> On 4/11/2015 6:01 PM, Greg And Alison Blake via Fot wrote:
> >>> Has anyone used the Lucas break in oil? I've used joe Gibbs in the past but the price advantage of the Lucas is about 3:1.
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> >>> Thanks
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