[Fot] Racing rod design

Christian Marx tr4racing at googlemail.com
Thu Jul 23 09:53:49 MDT 2015


The interesting thing with rods is, how long does it.
1 year , 3 years , 10 years?
My rods did it 5 years.
Am 23.07.2015 16:41 schrieb "John Hasty" <jhasty at mhc-law.com>:

>  Gee Whiz….you guys know a h- - - of a lot more about this than me, but I
> reason that if Manley etc. make a rod that withstands the rigors of a 800+
> hp American V8 turning upwards of 9000 rpm and it costs ½ of what P and C
> are charging it makes sense to use them…..
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> *From:* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *John
> Styduhar
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:59 AM
> *To:* Christian Marx; Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Racing rod design
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> Pauter has been making this design for almost 30 years with zero cold
> failures.  If it were a poor design they would have changed it out of
> necessity.  According to a Pauter rep., the main reason they started
> manufacturing their own rods in the first place was due to the fact that
> the H beam and I beam rods they were using couldn’t put up with what they
> were throwing at them with their turbo charged 4cylinder engines.
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> If you spin a rod bearing, eventually you will break anything.
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> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Christian Marx <tr4racing at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
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> I saw the pictures of Pauter.
> This type has no material were it needs and too much were it doesn't make
> sense.  Maybe for very short rods usable.
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> Am 23.07.2015 14:46 schrieb "John Styduhar" <johnstydo at gmail.com>:
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>  The Pauter design is a cross-beam (an inside-out H beam) not an x-beam
> and shares H-beam design properties because of this.
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> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 3:34 AM, MadMarx <tr4racing at googlemail.com> wrote:
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>   Today I had a look to a book called race car design.
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> It also contains engines, and as detail rods and their designs. I, H,
> blade – no x-beam (seems they never got the idea that someone could get the
> idea of an x-beam rod)
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> They said that F1 uses I-beam rods because they have the best stiffness to
> weight ratio.
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> Also German DTM-cars use I-beam rods.
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Tourenwagen_Masters
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> Cheers
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> Chris
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