[Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack

Wed Nov 11 21:11:22 MST 2015

This group has figured out more difficult problems than this one. I would
like to know from anyone 

who has had a failure if being at full lock might have caused all the
failures.

Seems like a place to start. What is common to all the failures? If it is
full lock that does it would 

modified steering stops be an option? Over the winter I'm for sure going to
take a hard look at pinning the

ends. 

Jim g 

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Bownes -Seiri
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:04 PM
To: Tony Drews
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack

Sounds like a different housing design would solve the problem. Or an
alternative rack & pinion for a standard rack. 

On Nov 11, 2015, at 14:43, Tony Drews <tony at tonydrews.com> wrote:

The issue is that the "tube" is pressed into the housing where the pinion
meets the rack.  When you go to full lock, you can knock the tube out the
end of the housing which then makes the rack no longer pressed into the
pinion and steering failure occurs.  The fix would involve making sure that
the tube is solidly attached to the housing so it can no longer be pushed
out.  Something like holes with bolts / pins could be a possibility, but
that would need to be done in a way to not interfere with normal operation.

In my case, I bought the "quick rack" on sale for under $200 and don't care
to even mess with it since I'd be guessing at a fix.

Cheers, Tony Drews

At 10:13 AM 11/11/2015, robertten1 at aol.com wrote:

Curious, 

What has been the fix to these racks to make them reliable, if any??  I have
a TVR buddy that has an Argentine Quik Rack an would be interested in
learning about any successful fix(s), outside of tossing this brand new rack
he acquired a few years ago.

Helping a friend,
Bob T
'64 Spit GT  autocrosser

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Sheach <tony.sheach at live.co.uk>
To: Jack Mc <LimeyV8 at aol.com>
Cc: <fot at autox.team.net> <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Nov 11, 2015 7:47 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 TR6 quick rack

All the racks sold by MOSS are made in Argentina - the only rack produced in
the UK for the TR is made for TR Enterprises and has a solid billet casing,
so instantly recognisable.

Putting the Argentinian rack in a bag with a sticker that says 'product of
the U.K.' Is surely just a dodge to mask the source and to hoodwink people
into thinking that it's a different product. That's simply scandalous. 

Sent from my iPad

On 10 Nov 2015, at 21:26, Jack Mc <LimeyV8 at aol.com> wrote:

The quick rack I bought had a sticker on the bag that said "product of the
U.K." 
AND
a sticker on the rack that said "Made in Argentina"

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 9, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley
<triosan at gmail.com> wrote:

Tony,

Who si the source for the UK made rack?

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Tony Sheach <tony.sheach at live.co.uk >
wrote:

Charly

There were a large number of failures of these racks in the UK on both road
and competition cars. For MOSS to say that there was only one is simply
untrue.

I personally had TWO failures of brand new racks about 18 months apart. Both
of these failures involved the pinion housing separating from the rack tube
at high speed in very dangerous circumstances.

I would NOT recommend the use of a MOSS rack to anyone, whether for road or
competition use because the manufacturing quality is poor and the material
quality is similarly inadequate. The information that I was given at a
meeting face to face with MOSS in london have me the impression that some
testing had been done, but the solution to the problem really had not been
found (ie do the job properly).

I now use a custom made rack which has a single piece pinion housing and
rack tube made from billet aluminium. These are being made in the UK. I will
never use a steering rack supplied by MOSS again.

Regards

Tony

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Nov 2015, at 07:04, Charly < charly at mitchelplumbing.com
<mailto:charly at mitchelplumbing.com> > wrote:

> 

> Friends,

> 

> I have a friend wanting to buy a quick steering rack for his TR4A.  I told
him there was a problem with them, but I thought it was resolved.  I
searched the archives

> and could find anything about it.  Does someone in the group know the
outcome of the problems that were brought to Moss on these quick racks?

> Thanks,

> Charly Mitchel

> Tr6 #44

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