[Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube

Robert Lang robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com
Tue May 17 08:19:49 MDT 2016 

Hi,
I never did find the missing dip stick tube, but I played around a bit with random bits in the shop and was able to take a 5 in length of 3/8" bundy tube and  make it fit. I had to turn the section that fits into the block down to .350 or so for a sloppy fit and then JB welded the tube to the proper height. I finished it off with a 37 degree flare at the open end for a good seal with the dip stick.
No more excuses now. The engine is less than an hour of futzing 'till I drop into the car.
C ya,Bob Lang
 

    On Saturday, May 14, 2016 1:45 AM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi at comcast.net> wrote:
 

 My Spit did it too. I got the meatball flag so many times from oil on the headers that it was ridiculous. Got so I'd look for it every lap. 
At first I tried a spring to hold the dipstick down tight in the tube but it still leaked. Then I tried to cap the dipstick tube with a silicon plug and a silicon cap and held with a clamp but that leaked too. 
The solution on my engine was not with the just the tube or dipstick it was in venting the engine better on both the top and bottom end and adjusting the spring load of the split on the dipstick.
I added a 1 inch ID hose venting the oil pan at the old mechanical fuel pump opening and added a 1/2 inch ID hose to the valve cover so along with the stock existing 3/8 inch hose on the valve cover I ended up with 1 7/8 inches of hose vented to the required catch tank.
I also bent the split on the dipstick so that it was harder to pull out of the tube and I replaced the felt gasket.
Extreme venting and spreading the dipstick cured the oil out the dipstick problem on my engine and probably has helped avoid pushing oil out other places. Plus the engine isn't having to overcome any buildup of bypass gas pressures on the bottom. I hope. 
Nice that the dipstick is still there for checking the oil and I don't have to go look for it.
Plus I haven't seen the meatball flag in awhile.
Bud Rolofson

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On May 13, 2016, at 6:46 AM, Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com> wrote:



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Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 7:45 PM
To: Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com>
Cc: FOT List <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube    Long. Long ago ,(1992 ) My 1147. With accusump could pump oil up the dipstick tube.  Raise the dipstick it's self and blow back on the header wrap. Where it would burn off like a wick. Corner workers thought they saw fire ( they did ) but it was out by the time I got back to pit lane.  It took two sessions to discover that. It is interesting to sit in pit lane . Engine running.  My helmet and earplugs Blocking all speech and watching my one man crew argue with the pit marshal  To not discharge the dry extinguisher as there was no fire.  And even more amazing how compleat the lack of air is when that power cloud hits you ! The quick fix at the track was to plug the dipstick hole , and free up more breather space.   Now I have a hex plug . I only check it when the pipes are cold. I can learn things. After a while.  It's been 25 years now that plug works great

Awrabest.   Scottie 
On May 12, 2016, at 5:55 PM, Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com> wrote: 
The 6 cylinder configuration we are talking about here has all that stuff on the opposite side. So, it has nothing of the sort in the way. Anyway, Like I said "to each his own" Both options allow for the hole to be closed and the oil to be checked. One of my race cars is yellow and the other is green. I love them both the same. 

 Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing . 

    On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Rocky Entriken <rocky at spitfire4.com> wrote: 
Is it a race car? Of course it requires tools. there’s all kinds of things you simply never bother with on a street car (or leave to the mechanic) for which you need/want tools on a race car.   That dipstick tube is a street car item (and the stock exhaust manifold is not in the way). My race car has headers (whichare in the way), an oil cooler, Accusump, remote oil filter, baffled pan, an oil pump with a filter screen, exterior (steel-braided) plumbing a street car does not have (and which has its own special wrenches), and 7.5 quarts of not-street-legal synthetic oil. Not gonna get married to a street-car item like a frickin’  tin tube sticking out of the engine block.   --Rocky   From:Steven Belfer  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:27 AM To:rjl at gt-classics.com  Cc:Robert Lang ; FOT List ; Rocky Entriken  Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube   Really? It seems to be a pretty good invention in its designated place. Checking the oil level shouldn't require tools.

~Steve    
On May 12, 2016, at 5:24 AM, R. John Lye <rjl at gt-classics.com> wrote: 
I second that suggestion.  That's what I did as well.   John

On Wed, 11 May 2016 21:44:49 -0500, Rocky Entriken <rocky at spitfire4.com> wrote: 
Option 2.   All you need is a plug. Best kind is one where the hex head is actually smaller than the plug, so you can reach it with a socket extension and remove it easily when the headers are still hot.   My dipstick is a toolbox item. My two race engines have the dipstick tubes removed ... on purpose.   --Rocky Entriken     From:Robert Lang  Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:21 PM To:FOT List Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube   Hi,   I somehow managed to lose the dip stick tube for my latest engine. So, what's the consensus:   1. fabricate a tube from some aluminum 2. drill / tap the block for an AN fitting and fab up a dip stick of the proper length   ???   In other words, I'm looking for suggestions.   Oddly, three engine block cores and no dip stick tubes. What's up with that?   Regards, Bob Lang 339-927-449   _______________________________________________
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