From kknight at klaenv.com  Wed May  1 08:53:08 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Kenneth Knight)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 07:53:08 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <002101d5002d$979cc660$c6d65320$@klaenv.com>

Hello All;

 

I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.  I am staying part
way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from
Canada.

 

The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA
get things set up.  We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don't
have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.  There
will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.
So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.

 

Cheers, Ken

 

PS;  The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm
to hot.

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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:49:48 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:49:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry Barker?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
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Hello All;

 ?

I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.? I am staying part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from Canada.

 ?

The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA get things set up.? We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.? There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.? So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.

 ?

Cheers, Ken

 ?

PS;? The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm to hot.
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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:49:48 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:49:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <002101d5002d$979cc660$c6d65320$@klaenv.com>
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Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry Barker?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
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Hello All;

 ?

I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.? I am staying part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from Canada.

 ?

The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA get things set up.? We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.? There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.? So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.

 ?

Cheers, Ken

 ?

PS;? The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm to hot.
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed May  1 11:01:04 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 10:01:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Will be there shortly. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 1, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Jerry Barker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry Barker 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot
> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Hello All;
> 
>  
> 
> I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.  I am staying part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from Canada.
> 
>  
> 
> The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA get things set up.  We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.  There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.  So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers, Ken
> 
>  
> 
> PS;  The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm to hot.
> 
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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May  1 12:19:15 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 12:19:15 -0600
Subject: [Fot] On my way!
Message-ID: <50f925bc-4ef4-ff00-1171-68d3c9b1a65f@bradakis.com>

Got a nice little maroon Hyundai Santa Fe, should get me there.

Next email from my laptop somewhere down the road.? See some of you soon!

mjb.



From waldoracer at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 15:27:42 2019
From: waldoracer at yahoo.com (Ralf Schreyer)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 21:27:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] race spitfire rebirth
References: <785250362.3486392.1556746063315.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <785250362.3486392.1556746063315@mail.yahoo.com>

hello all, I stumbled on this F prod 64 spit on Face Book. It was built and driven by Robert Kuczek. The car last raced 1981 when it was crashed at Road America during SCCA qualifying on 1st lap at turn 1, was then placed in garage for last 38 years. It has in car 1147 bored ,020 over, forged pistons, 12:1 compression, Deves stainless rings, blueprinted block and crank, ported, polished, and flowed head, chromoly hollow pushrods, John Stanford camshaft and modified rocker arms, trap door baffled oil pan with windage tray. The motor was run 2 practice seasons and crashed then crashed. Here it is at its new home Thanks All Ralf
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Wed May  1 15:42:45 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 14:42:45 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed May  1 17:12:27 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (tony at tonydrews.com)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 19:12:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <20190501215244.021FCA182C@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <20190501191227.Horde.c351INjs2V92XxSa5SRqiFZ@tonydrews.com>

Hard to tell those enclosed trailers apart...

Tony

Quoting Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:

> Just passed in traffic by Tony Drew's outside of Barstow.? Looks like he
> is heading to BBQ.? He did not see me.? Ken
>
> Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
> On May 1, 2019 10:01 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Will be there shortly.?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 1, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Jerry Barker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry
>>> Barker?
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android[1]
>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot
>>>> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello All;
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>
>>>> I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.? I am staying
>>>> part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing
>>>> from Canada.
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>
>>>> The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help
>>>> VARA get things set up.? We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if
>>>> you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in
>>>> together.? There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for
>>>> Peter Brock and his rig.? So safe travels to everyone and see at the
>>>> track.
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Ken
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>
>>>> PS;? The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be
>>>> warm to hot.
>>>>
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Wed May  1 18:31:41 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 17:31:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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From billdentin at aol.com  Wed May  1 18:58:14 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 00:58:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Ken...
That probably impressed you because you're still traumatized by the big 2019 BLIZZARD here in Las Vegas, when we actually had sticking?snow cover?on our palm trees. ?But Canucks, like Barry are tough. ?
Not o worry!
Bill Dentinger
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 On?Wednesday, May 1, 2019,?Ken Knight via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Barry Munson and his TR 3 just arrived at RV park where I am spending night in Tehachpi.? He has driven for 3 days through a winter storm to get to the race!? Ken

Sent?from?my?Verizon?SmartphoneOn May 1, 2019 2:42 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Just passed in traffic by Tony Drew's outside of Barstow.? Looks like he is heading to BBQ.? He did not see me.? Ken

Sent?from?my?Verizon?SmartphoneOn May 1, 2019 10:01 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:



Will be there shortly.?

Sent from my iPhone
On May 1, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Jerry Barker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry Barker?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot<fot at autox.team.net> wrote:   
Hello All;

 ?

I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.? I am staying part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from Canada.

 ?

The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA get things set up.? We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.? There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.? So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.

 ?

Cheers, Ken

 ?

PS;? The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm to hot.
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Wed May  1 19:28:58 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 18:28:58 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:52:03 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:52:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Address is 11277? Hawthorne Avenue Hesperia CA 92345, phone 310 210 8649 Jerry?

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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:52:03 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:52:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Address is 11277? Hawthorne Avenue Hesperia CA 92345, phone 310 210 8649 Jerry?

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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:52:03 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:52:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Address is 11277? Hawthorne Avenue Hesperia CA 92345, phone 310 210 8649 Jerry?

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From richard.mied at nrl.navy.mil  Wed May  1 15:42:01 2019
From: richard.mied at nrl.navy.mil (Richard Mied)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 17:42:01 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire race car for sale
Message-ID: <BFF51B04-66E2-4B11-AA92-0CEC7DD930CD@nrl.navy.mil>

1962 G/P Triumph Spitfire for Sale

 



This car was never titled for the street, and has always been a racecar. It was originally raced in SCCA, where it was the Southeast regional champion for two years. It has been raced in vintage since then. Email to  <mailto:mied at nrl.navy.mil>mied at nrl.navy <mailto:mied at nrl.navy>.mil

Engine
1147 cc built by Rick Cline
High-Compression forged pistons
Forged crankshaft
Carillo rods
Cline custom grind camshaft
Mallory Luminition distributor
Roller rockers
NAS fasteners throughout

Transmission/clutch/drivetrain
Quarter Master flywheel and pressure plate
Tilton clutch
GT6 transmission
Aluminum bell housing
Summers Brothers axles
Quaiffe 4:11 differential
AMB Transponder

Body
Stock?no flares
Complete roll cage with side impact protection
Custom Cockpit cover?covers roll cage and windscreens
Panasport wheels
Fire system onboard
ATL 8 gal. Fuel cell

Instrumentation
Auto Meter 0-10,000 RPM telltale tach
Auto Meter Oil pressure, water temperature, fuel pressure
Exhaust temperature gages

Race Track Times
Mid-Ohio?1:54.3
VIR--2:34.4
Watkins Glen?2:37.0
NJ?Thunderbolt?1:44.5

Spares
Block
2 Heads
Crankshaft
Starter motor
Alternator
GT6 transmission
Driveshaft
Aluminum bell housing
Throttle cables
Welded 4:11 large-case differential
Trunk lid
2 GT6 from wheel hubs + bearings
6 Panasport wheels
2 Stub axles
Other miscellaneous parts

 
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From richard.mied at nrl.navy.mil  Wed May  1 15:28:10 2019
From: richard.mied at nrl.navy.mil (Richard Mied)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 17:28:10 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire race car for sale
Message-ID: <082371A2-6562-4315-A9F4-DF85DF26C013@nrl.navy.mil>

1962 G/P Triumph Spitfire

 


This car was never titled for the street, and has always been a racecar. It was originally raced in SCCA, where it was the Southeast regional champion for two years. It has been raced in vintage since then. Email to mied at nrl.navy.mil <mailto:mied at nrl.navy.mil>mied at nrl.navy <mailto:mied at nrl.navy>.mil

Engine
1147 cc built by Rick Cline
High-Compression forged pistons
Forged crankshaft
Carillo rods
Cline custom grind camshaft
Mallory Luminition distributor
Roller rockers
NAS fasteners throughout

Transmission/clutch/drivetrain
Quarter Master flywheel and pressure plate
Tilton clutch
GT6 transmission
Aluminum bell housing
Summers Brothers axles
Quaiffe 4:11 differential
AMB Transponder

Body
Stock?no flares
Complete roll cage with side impact protection
Custom Cockpit cover?covers roll cage and windscreens
Panasport wheels
Fire system onboard
ATL 8 gal. Fuel cell

Instrumentation
Auto Meter 0-10,000 RPM telltale tach
Auto Meter Oil pressure, water temperature, fuel pressure
Exhaust temperature gages

Race Track Times
Mid-Ohio?1:54.3
VIR--2:34.4
Watkins Glen?2:37.0
NJ?Thunderbolt?1:44.5

Spares
Block
2 Heads
Crankshaft
Starter motor
Alternator
GT6 transmission
Driveshaft
Aluminum bell housing
Throttle cables
Welded 4:11 large-case differential
Trunk lid
2 GT6 from wheel hubs + bearings
6 Panasporrt wheels
2 Stub axles
Other miscellaneous parts

 
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From waldoracer at yahoo.com  Thu May  2 14:29:50 2019
From: waldoracer at yahoo.com (Ralf Schreyer)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:29:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] rebirth 2
References: <974436064.514237.1556828990989.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <974436064.514237.1556828990989@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all, the car has stock gearbox with tailshaft stiffened on both sides and a ballistic blanket, 3.89 welded upgraded stub axles and bearings rear axles are custom? Dart axles?machined to fit spit carriers with larger bearings, frt suspension?and brakes are GT6, spares included 1 GT6 close ratio trans, 3 diffs 1 add stock 3.89, a large 4.11, 4.88, an extra Stanford cam as installed in engine, 2 bare blocks, 2 cranks, 3 cylinder heads 1 complete, 4 steel 6 x 13 wheels with junk rains, new left rocker and door to repair damage, a complete straight hood assembly, 4 new Fiberglass fender flares and wrap around front spoiler, and single axle trailer. SCCA and MCSCC log books i am pretty sure i would like to return to stock body, anybody have good set of rear Quarters reasonably close to Iowa let me know thanks to all Ralf

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From bownes at seiri.com  Thu May  2 15:15:28 2019
From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 17:15:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role
this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be
there!

Bob
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Thu May  2 20:41:36 2019
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:41:36 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Second that!
Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
> 
> Bob
> 
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Thu May  2 21:47:58 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (tony at tonydrews.com)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2019 23:47:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>

It?s good to see old friends again!

Tony

Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:

> Second that!
> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> TR4 #314
> Albuquerque NM
>
>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot  
>> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in  
>> whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or  
>> marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>
>> Bob
>>
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>>
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May  2 21:48:45 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:48:45 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
 <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <1F7CBC5A-E4FA-4FD6-94F4-622737853408@gmail.com>

?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> It?s good to see old friends again!
> 
> Tony
> 
> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
> 
>> Second that!
>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>> TR4 #314
>> Albuquerque NM
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 
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>> 
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Thu May  2 21:57:32 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:57:32 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <1F7CBC5A-E4FA-4FD6-94F4-622737853408@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
 <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>
 <1F7CBC5A-E4FA-4FD6-94F4-622737853408@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28AED7AE-D282-40FA-8578-23A9CF7D86CA@gmail.com>

????????

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It?s good to see old friends again!
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
>> 
>>> Second that!
>>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>>> TR4 #314
>>> Albuquerque NM
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>>> 
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>>> 
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From afterapex at gmail.com  Thu May  2 22:07:00 2019
From: afterapex at gmail.com (greg powell)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 21:07:00 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <28AED7AE-D282-40FA-8578-23A9CF7D86CA@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
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 <1F7CBC5A-E4FA-4FD6-94F4-622737853408@gmail.com>
 <28AED7AE-D282-40FA-8578-23A9CF7D86CA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6B2E2DE-BF1D-4128-B9C7-8E87BFC38CB4@gmail.com>

It?s going to be a great weekend!
I look forward to meeting lots of Triumph, and Triumph-powered owners!!
Greg Powell
1958 Morgan +4

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

????????

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It?s good to see old friends again!
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
>> 
>>> Second that!
>>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>>> TR4 #314
>>> Albuquerque NM
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>> 
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>> 
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Fri May  3 07:08:41 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Fri, 03 May 2019 06:08:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
Message-ID: <mailman.10.1556889685.2850.fot@autox.team.net>

It?is?a?gathering?of?the?Clan?Triumph!??Ken

Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
On May 2, 2019 8:57 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ????????
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > 
> > ?
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> It?s good to see old friends again!
> >> 
> >> Tony
> >> 
> >> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
> >> 
> >>> Second that!
> >>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
> >>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> >>> TR4 #314
> >>> Albuquerque NM
> >>> 
> >>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
> >>>> 
> >>>> Bob
> >>>> 
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> fot at autox.team.net
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
> >>>> 
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> >>>> 
> >>> 
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> >>> 
> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com
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> >> 
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> >> 
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Fri May  3 11:45:47 2019
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 12:45:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <20190503132137.358F6A1AEE@autox.team.net>
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Message-ID: <8E604073-8325-4D46-A412-6F002BAD6783@icloud.com>

Wish I was with you guys at the Cup. I couldn?t swing it this year. Next best thing for me, we brought the only Triumph to CVAR?s MSR Houston race this weekend. 

Y?all have fun. 

Greg

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Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> It?is?a?gathering?of?the?Clan?Triumph! ?Ken
> 
> Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
>> On May 2, 2019 8:57 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ????????
>> 
>> Brad Eells
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It?s good to see old friends again!
>>>> 
>>>> Tony
>>>> 
>>>> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Second that!
>>>>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>>>>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>>>>> TR4 #314
>>>>> Albuquerque NM
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Fri May  3 12:40:04 2019
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 13:40:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <8E604073-8325-4D46-A412-6F002BAD6783@icloud.com>
References: <20190503132137.358F6A1AEE@autox.team.net>
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It?s rained hard a few times in the Austin area today and I suspect it?s coming your way in Angleton (as I type this it?s over Eagle Lake and Sugarland).  A tornado passed through Fayette county this morning and wiped out a bunch of buildings including a church ? no injuries thankfully.

I wish I could have made it but the replacement pistons for the NSU still haven?t arrived.

Duncan

> On May 3, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Wish I was with you guys at the Cup. I couldn?t swing it this year. Next best thing for me, we brought the only Triumph to CVAR?s MSR Houston race this weekend. 
> 
> Y?all have fun. 
> 
> Greg
> 
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It?is?a?gathering?of?the?Clan?Triumph! ?Ken
>> 
>> Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
>>> On May 2, 2019 8:57 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ????????
>>> 
>>> Brad Eells
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It?s good to see old friends again!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tony
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Second that!
>>>>>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>>>>>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>>>>>> TR4 #314
>>>>>> Albuquerque NM
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>> 
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri May  3 13:50:24 2019
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 19:50:24 +0000
Subject: [Fot] K Cup
Message-ID: <98FC75AB-96A4-4279-8510-021D5AA3A559@mhc-law.com>

The event isn?t on race monitor anyone know why????

Sent from my iPhone

From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Sat May  4 05:49:08 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 07:49:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR4 race car
Message-ID: <008d01d5026f$62672550$27356ff0$@rogers.com>

 
<https://www.facebook.com/groups/ObscureCarsOC/permalink/2340998305962727/?s
ale_post_id=2340998305962727>
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From my71spit13 at yahoo.com  Sat May  4 15:06:18 2019
From: my71spit13 at yahoo.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 21:06:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner cup coverage
References: <2104740933.1389254.1557003978363.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2104740933.1389254.1557003978363@mail.yahoo.com>

I have live video on www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs?
Fyi. We will also do a live video of the Cup race and the awards...

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
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Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228


'71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude"
'72 Triumph GT6 MK3
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sun May  5 10:34:21 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 12:34:21 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner cup - who won?
Message-ID: <B500B683-E87F-4D2B-8B8E-F14CA55AC54E@me.com>

Who were the top 5?

Sent from my iPhone

From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Sun May  5 19:26:07 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 21:26:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR2 Macau
Message-ID: <001e01d503aa$ae845750$0b8d05f0$@rogers.com>

 
<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIUMPH-TR2-MACAU/303144628132?hash=item4694d3ef
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4%3Ag%3ApLoAAOSw0w1czuW6&frcectupt=true&fbclid=IwAR2sHczjtAhGbjejTOPFxYancLJ
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sun May  5 19:41:23 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 18:41:23 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sun May  5 21:00:13 2019
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 21:00:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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Race results but no K Cup results?
My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> <IMG_6476.jpg>
> 
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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From billdentin at aol.com  Sun May  5 21:04:58 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 03:04:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
References: <41527139.1779795.1557111898165.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <41527139.1779795.1557111898165@mail.yahoo.com>

Tony done GOOD, finishing 5th.
Bill Dentinger

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com
 On?Sunday, May 5, 2019,?Greg Hilyer via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Race results but no K Cup results?
My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> <IMG_6476.jpg>
> 
> 
> Brad Eells
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From emanteno at gmail.com  Sun May  5 21:13:15 2019
From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 20:13:15 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
In-Reply-To: <A6D377AC-5D42-4798-BB31-940EB8233BB1@yahoo.com>
References: <D90B8B90-FA40-4F8D-9331-8319658DE9A7@gmail.com>
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Brian Howlett won The Cup.

On Sun, May 5, 2019, 8:00 PM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Race results but no K Cup results?
> My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> TR4 #314
> Albuquerque NM
>
> > On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > <IMG_6476.jpg>
> >
> >
> > Brad Eells
> > Sent from my iPhone
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sun May  5 21:32:26 2019
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 21:32:26 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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Looks like a 3rd in class to me!
Yay Tony!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 5, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Tony done GOOD, finishing 5th.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
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> On Sunday, May 5, 2019, Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Race results but no K Cup results?
> My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
> TR4 #314
> Albuquerque NM
> 
> > On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > <IMG_6476.jpg>
> > 
> > 
> > Brad Eells
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun May  5 21:36:46 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 20:36:46 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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Rock Solid and Flawless. Hard to beat that California Air. 

Mid-Ohio may be different. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Looks like a 3rd in class to me!
> Yay Tony!
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> TR4 #314
> Albuquerque NM
> 
>> On May 5, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Tony done GOOD, finishing 5th.
>> 
>> Bill Dentinger
>> 
>> 
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>> On Sunday, May 5, 2019, Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Race results but no K Cup results?
>> My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
>> TR4 #314
>> Albuquerque NM
>> 
>> > On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > <IMG_6476.jpg>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Brad Eells
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sun May  5 21:46:15 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 20:46:15 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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*Brad Eells*
*Chino CA*
*#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3*
*#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4*
*1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!*




On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:13 PM Irv Korey <emanteno at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian Howlett won The Cup.
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019, 8:00 PM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Race results but no K Cup results?
>> My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>> TR4 #314
>> Albuquerque NM
>>
>> > On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Sun May  5 23:06:05 2019
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 01:06:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR2 build dates
Message-ID: <0F192220-C6F2-46E4-A76B-621438FA02D8@columbus.rr.com>

TS 5433 O, TR2 ENGINE TS 5723E

Looking for a build date of a TR2 with an Engine Number around TS 5999 E

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon May  6 00:42:11 2019
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 08:42:11 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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Yep, that 595 car looks very fast laptime wise.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Brad Eells via Fot
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Mai 2019 05:46
An: Irv Korey <emanteno at gmail.com>
Cc: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results

 



Brad Eells

Chino CA

#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3

#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4

1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!



 

 

 

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:13 PM Irv Korey <emanteno at gmail.com <mailto:emanteno at gmail.com> > wrote:

Brian Howlett won The Cup. 

 

On Sun, May 5, 2019, 8:00 PM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Race results but no K Cup results?
My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon May  6 03:05:17 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 05:05:17 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
In-Reply-To: <D90B8B90-FA40-4F8D-9331-8319658DE9A7@gmail.com>
References: <D90B8B90-FA40-4F8D-9331-8319658DE9A7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009001d503ea$d3bf5520$7b3dff60$@rogers.com>

Although I understand that John Mueller was driving the TR8 instead of Joe
Huffaker. A last minute switch of driver was reported. A great finish in
honor of his father's racing successes.

Also a great finish for Wedges!

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Eells via
Fot
Sent: May 5, 2019 9:41 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results





From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon May  6 06:49:53 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 12:49:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR2 build dates
In-Reply-To: <0F192220-C6F2-46E4-A76B-621438FA02D8@columbus.rr.com>
References: <0F192220-C6F2-46E4-A76B-621438FA02D8@columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1281783160.747310.1557146993539@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hi Tom.? My TR-2 is TS 7158 L and was built on July 7, 1955.
Jack

    On Monday, May 6, 2019, 1:06:29 AM EDT, Tom Householder via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 TS 5433 O, TR2 ENGINE TS 5723E
Looking for a build date of a TR2 with an Engine Number around TS 5999 E
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Mon May  6 11:11:08 2019
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 10:11:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] KCup thanks and congratulations
Message-ID: <1705684210.193648.1557162669274@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello Friends,

Thanks to everyone who helped put together a great weekend of racing.  It was a very healthy turnout of Triumphs.

What a great group!  Ken did an excellent job of taking good care of us in a well organized fashion.  Joe Siam Too.

Buttonwillow is a very fun track.  I was a little slow at getting up to speed, but I improved my lap times by over 9 seconds from my last practice session on Friday to the all British race on Sunday.  If only the KCup was run on Sunday.  I ran 2:22s during the Kastner Cup race and 2:17s during the British race on Sunday, finishing 9th of 27.  

I had a little problem with my TR3 for the first time in it's 17 events.  It would not rev over 5,500 rpm beginning on Friday, although once I figured out a good flow of the track, I was really having a blast.  

On Friday, I had my first spin and thanks to Walt Hollowell's efforts, I was lucky not to collect anyone or hit the only wall at Buttonwillow.  Walt was a couple feet from hitting me in the driver door and I floored the throttle to keep the car rotating out of his way.  The 360 spin ended a couple feet from a tire barrier still on pavement.  

Congratulations to Brian Howlett.  His Kastner Cup win was well deserved.  He was really flying in his TR4.  Unfortunately, he didn't fair as well in his Morgan during the Sunday British race.  A lap after he passed me, his car broke an axle right in front of me in the esses.  A wild series of spins followed.  

Stay tuned for videos.

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From john at linneyweb.com  Mon May  6 13:31:48 2019
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 12:31:48 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Racers
Message-ID: <FFB2F261-4EFC-4AA2-BAE4-2217335BC48C@linneyweb.com>

Thanks to all the racers that gave me SD Cards after the race on Saturday. The footage is awesome and will really help tell the story.

To those who ran GoPros and were unaware that I am putting together a video telling the story of the race ? It?s not too late to have your footage included. Just respond to this email and I?ll send you a link where you can upload the video - or an address to mail your SD card (I will pay postage both ways!) If you have video from trackside I would love that too. 

This is very much a passion project, and all those who provide footage will get a special mention in the credits. I had such a great time watching history being made and would like to especially thank Joe Alexander for giving me the opportunity to meet and work with such a great group of people. Also a shout-out to Cregg Cowan who did such a professional job with the other camera. 

I?m just starting to wade through hundreds of Gigabytes of footage and will let this group know as soon as something is ready to release.

Many thanks ? john

Email or 408 887 8105 if you have questions.




From kknight at klaenv.com  Mon May  6 15:08:24 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Mon, 06 May 2019 14:08:24 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Racers
Message-ID: <mailman.12.1557177701.2850.fot@autox.team.net>

John, I just got home and unloaded.? I have not had time to check my GoPro, but I will tomorrow.? I may have some good footage of first few laps until my car broke.? Ken

Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
On May 6, 2019 12:31 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks to all the racers that gave me SD Cards after the race on Saturday. The footage is awesome and will really help tell the story.
>
> To those who ran GoPros and were unaware that I am putting together a video telling the story of the race ? It?s not too late to have your footage included. Just respond to this email and I?ll send you a link where you can upload the video - or an address to mail your SD card (I will pay postage both ways!) If you have video from trackside I would love that too.
>
> This is very much a passion project, and all those who provide footage will get a special mention in the credits. I had such a great time watching history being made and would like to especially thank Joe Alexander for giving me the opportunity to meet and work with such a great group of people. Also a shout-out to Cregg Cowan who did such a professional job with the other camera.
>
> I?m just starting to wade through hundreds of Gigabytes of footage and will let this group know as soon as something is ready to release.
>
> Many thanks ? john
>
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon May  6 15:46:13 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 14:46:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Performance Awards
Message-ID: <0F26B0D5-75D2-480F-A7D0-F0E78C0965E3@gmail.com>


Kas and all,

I have 3 of Peggy?s Performance Awards. I need the names to send them

Thank you. 

Joe Alexander

Sent from my iPhone

From john at linneyweb.com  Mon May  6 17:19:01 2019
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 16:19:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Racers
In-Reply-To: <20190506212159.647D3A15C4@autox.team.net>
References: <20190506212159.647D3A15C4@autox.team.net>
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Thanks Ken - That would be great. I really appreciate it! -john

> On May 6, 2019, at 2:08 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> John, I just got home and unloaded.  I have not had time to check my GoPro, but I will tomorrow.  I may have some good footage of first few laps until my car broke.  Ken
> 
> Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
> On May 6, 2019 12:31 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks to all the racers that gave me SD Cards after the race on Saturday. The footage is awesome and will really help tell the story.
>> 
>> To those who ran GoPros and were unaware that I am putting together a video telling the story of the race ? It?s not too late to have your footage included. Just respond to this email and I?ll send you a link where you can upload the video - or an address to mail your SD card (I will pay postage both ways!) If you have video from trackside I would love that too.
>> 
>> This is very much a passion project, and all those who provide footage will get a special mention in the credits. I had such a great time watching history being made and would like to especially thank Joe Alexander for giving me the opportunity to meet and work with such a great group of people. Also a shout-out to Cregg Cowan who did such a professional job with the other camera.
>> 
>> I?m just starting to wade through hundreds of Gigabytes of footage and will let this group know as soon as something is ready to release.
>> 
>> Many thanks ? john
>> 
>> Email or 408 887 8105 if you have questions.
>> 
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From mark at bradakis.com  Mon May  6 22:16:45 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 22:16:45 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Home again
Message-ID: <f718f490-33f5-71d8-16ba-fa5c42f5a456@bradakis.com>

2,014 miles. 5 days, 8 hours.

That's an average of 15.7 mph for my vacation.? I'm tired, but glad to 
be home.



More after a beer and a shot, perhaps a nap.



mjb.




From koblinger at verizon.net  Mon May  6 23:31:50 2019
From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 22:31:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Photos
Message-ID: <b6eca514-2709-1316-db1a-b16abaf8bb50@verizon.net>

Amici,

First off, a round of thanks to all those involved in making the Kastner 
Cup a great event. This was the first time I was able to attend and it 
was better than I hoped. Great cars, drivers and racing.

Racing photography has been my thing for 40 or so years now, so here is 
my contribution to the effort. The link below should take you to a 
Google Album of photos. I tried to get at least one shot of each triumph 
on track, although I expect I managed to miss a couple. If the link is 
not clickable, try cutting and pasting into your browser.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/PZKNjUjSNbLbE3216

Cheers,

Kurt Oblinger


From mark at bradakis.com  Tue May  7 21:57:42 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 21:57:42 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2019
Message-ID: <740968b6-56f5-5ae1-40fa-9de82fa7cdf3@bradakis.com>

Fun weekend.? I did a lot of driving, got to see Death Valley for the 
first time, I drove through some pretty desolate country during the 
course of the trip.? Enterprise gave me a nice discount since they 
messed up on the Sirius XM radio request.

I was bummed I forgot the chairs I meant to bring, with my hip the way 
it is I can't stand or walk too long, need to rest often. Also bummed I 
didn't tape up that poster I brought.? It was from the 2002 Mid Ohio 
Triumph event, a reminder of the location of next year's Cup event.? I 
set it on a table when I got there, got sidetracked and it disappeared.? 
Oh well, hope whoever took it left behind a donation to the cause.

Got to see some great people, some great cars.? Kind of surprised how 
few pictures there are on my phone of the event.? DId get a short video 
of the beginning of the first lap of the race, with John Mueller in the 
TR8 leading the way.? Brian Howlett's 4A is way faster than a 4 banger 
should be, like Barker's Herald.

The weekend got me inspired, I HAVE to get a running Triumph in my life 
this summer.? A bigger goal. of course, would be getting the Killer Spit 
back on track and entered in an upcoming Kastner Cup event.

We shall see.

mjb.



From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed May  8 07:59:22 2019
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 06:59:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] [TR] TR2 build dates
In-Reply-To: <CANzE1bGT-wSi28j5hkLw62g1d9U_+eHXrQFsxY5w-U5LOPPiVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0F192220-C6F2-46E4-A76B-621438FA02D8@columbus.rr.com>
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Message-ID: <372771265.972.1557323963165@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello All,

I saw these build date inquiries and thought I'd chime in.

I have a longdoor TR2 built in June 14 of '54.  TS2172LO, engine TS2313E.  

Dave H.

> On May 6, 2019 at 10:26 AM Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 10:06 PM Tom Householder < trhouse at columbus.rr.com mailto:trhouse at columbus.rr.com > wrote:
> 
>         > >         TS 5433 O, TR2 ENGINE TS 5723E
> > 
> >     > 
>     Is this the 'Harrahs' TR2?
> 
>     Geo 
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Wed May  8 13:58:59 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (PAUL MACDONALD)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 19:58:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Herald
References: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>

Someone was looking for a Herald
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/1432680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true


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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Wed May  8 14:10:06 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 13:10:06 -0700
Subject: [Fot] A Great FOT Weekend
Message-ID: <CACZdCPWAHceghr5DxtOToSnbGjGpEVhRY-KYd68jOGojcRAqZw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Amici,

I just wanted to express what a great time we had with all of you at
Kastner Cup. While my racing weekend was cut short by a number of self
inflicted ills, the company and surrounding events were fantastic starting
at Jerry and Jan Barker's home on Wednesday.

Mordy Dunst is an amazing chef and host among all of his other skills. He
managed to win the Union Jack Challenge race on Sunday going away as well.

Many have supported my quest to get the former Doug Brown Spitfire back on
the track after it's 43 year nap. I thank all of you for that.

Kas among all his other duties and commitments took the time to teach me
spark plugs, carb float levels and mixture settings. I saw my first fouled
plug on Friday!

We learned lots and will learn more as we now have a bit of breathing space
to the next event.

Thanks again Amici! What a great event...Mid Ohio 2020 anyone??

Cheers,


*Brad Eells*
*Chino CA*
*#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3*
*#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4*
*1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!*
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From rick.parent at att.net  Wed May  8 14:51:17 2019
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 20:51:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Herald
In-Reply-To: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <475376075.1773311.1557348677301@mail.yahoo.com>

 Yeah, that would be me and I would take in a second except it's a little to far away, 2590 miles to be exact, thanks for thinking of me.
    On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 3:59:07 PM EDT, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Someone was looking for a Herald
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/1432680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true


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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May  8 15:15:15 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 15:15:15 -0600
Subject: [Fot] A Great FOT Weekend
In-Reply-To: <CACZdCPWAHceghr5DxtOToSnbGjGpEVhRY-KYd68jOGojcRAqZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACZdCPWAHceghr5DxtOToSnbGjGpEVhRY-KYd68jOGojcRAqZw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 5/8/19 2:10 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote:
> Hello Amici,
>
> I just wanted to express what a great time we had with all of you at 
> Kastner Cup. While my racing weekend was cut short by a number of self 
> inflicted ills, the company and surrounding events were fantastic 
> starting at Jerry and Jan Barker's home on Wednesday.
>
> Mordy Dunst is an amazing chef and host among all of his other skills. 
> He managed to win the Union Jack Challenge race on Sunday going away 
> as well.
>
> Many have supported my quest to get the former Doug Brown Spitfire 
> back on the track after it's 43 year nap. I thank all of you for that.
>
> Kas among all his other duties and commitments took the time to teach 
> me spark plugs, carb float levels and mixture settings. I saw my first 
> fouled plug on Friday!
>
> We learned lots and will learn more as we now have a bit of breathing 
> space to the next event.
>
> Thanks again Amici! What a great event...Mid Ohio 2020 anyone??


Yes, a great weekend, wish I had remembered the BBQ was Wednesday, not 
Thursday.? I am planning on Mid Ohio next year. May fly into 
Indianapolis to visit an old friend, drive to the track from there.? 
Think it will be the first time I make 2 in a row, if it happens.

On a side note, one comment I got several times during the weekend was 
how much people appreciated the new and much improved response time for 
list emails.? You can actually carry on a conversation now, without 
waiting hours for a response.

mjb.



From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Wed May  8 15:17:16 2019
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 14:17:16 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Herald
References: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>
 <475376075.1773311.1557348677301@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C5FE6AD59211433C9146D7A74500C37D@Charly>

Only a couple of hundred miles away for me if you want me to pick it up for you.  I could store it until you get it figured out.

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rick Parent via Fot 
  To: FOT Triumph ; PAUL MACDONALD 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 1:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald


  Yeah, that would be me and I would take in a second except it's a little to far away, 2590 miles to be exact, thanks for thinking of me.


  On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 3:59:07 PM EDT, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 




  Someone was looking for a Herald


  https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/1432680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true





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From billsohl at optonline.net  Wed May  8 18:46:52 2019
From: billsohl at optonline.net (Sohl)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 20:46:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Herald
In-Reply-To: <C5FE6AD59211433C9146D7A74500C37D@Charly>
References: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>
 <475376075.1773311.1557348677301@mail.yahoo.com>
 <C5FE6AD59211433C9146D7A74500C37D@Charly>
Message-ID: <953998902.404949.1557362812882@mymail.optimum.net>

Charly,

I have a 1961 Herald, minimum rust, convertible, dry stored for last 20 years. Car is located in Northwest, NJ. I am listing it at $2000 or best offer. Up for sale is also a 1981 TR-8 Convertible, bordeaux red/tan top. If anyone is interested please email me. Cheers, Bill
?

> On May 8, 2019 at 5:17 PM Charly Mitchel via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>     Only a couple of hundred miles away for me if you want me to pick it up for you.  I could store it until you get it figured out.
>      
>     Charly Mitchel
>     TR6 #44
>     ----- Original Message -----
> 
>         > >         From: Rick Parent via Fot mailto:fot at autox.team.net
> >         To: FOT Triumph mailto:fot at autox.team.net ; PAUL MACDONALD mailto:macdonaldp at rogers.com
> >         Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 1:51 PM
> >         Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald
> > 
> >         Yeah, that would be me and I would take in a second except it's a little to far away, 2590 miles to be exact, thanks for thinking of me.
> > 
> >         On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 3:59:07 PM EDT, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >         Someone was looking for a Herald
> > 
> >         https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/1432680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
> > 
> > 
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From rodkent at cox.net  Wed May  8 22:06:24 2019
From: rodkent at cox.net (CHARLES KENT)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 00:06:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <1345463444.16754.1557374784537@myemail.cox.net>

Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Thu May  9 04:40:20 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 06:40:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Herald
Message-ID: <000001d50653$9a40ae00$cec20a00$@rogers.com>

Someone was looking for a Herald.

 

 
<https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/143
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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Thu May  9 16:26:50 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 18:26:50 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling
Message-ID: <CAMJWJcHaAZTrfDcvyPLWgo4vt9Pf=8afzf9X=RE5Qo37v8zWfw@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone have any experience with installation of an electric water pump on
the TR wet sleeve engine??    Having trouble with temperature control on
the Davies Craig 115 pump and controller kit I installed on my TR3.  Flow
rate is advertised at 115 liters/minute.     Thanks
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From billdentin at aol.com  Fri May 10 10:47:04 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 16:47:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
References: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404@mail.yahoo.com>

Rod & Dale...
Good for you.? With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.? Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.? Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.? Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows. ?
Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.? Start making plans.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

 Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of? true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.? I want to say in closing? we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.? Rod and Dale Kent _______________________________________________
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri May 10 11:56:01 2019
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 17:56:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
Regards,Bob LangTR6's

    On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Rod & Dale...
Good for you.? With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.? Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.? Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.? Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows. ?
Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.? Start making plans.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

 Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of? true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.? I want to say in closing? we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.? Rod and Dale Kent _______________________________________________
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Fri May 10 12:41:51 2019
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 18:41:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling
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Might be too much flow? ?

MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2
 On?Thursday, May 9, 2019,?John Styduhar via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Anyone have any experience with installation of an electric water pump on the TR wet sleeve engine??? ? Having trouble with temperature control on the Davies Craig 115 pump and controller kit I installed on my TR3.? Flow rate is advertised at 115 liters/minute.? ? ?Thanks_______________________________________________
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri May 10 16:27:01 2019
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 22:27:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <33FFBFA2-598C-4156-B7A1-EB545C176C71@icloud.com>
References: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1374457227.458269.1557506824404@mail.yahoo.com>
 <272324085.2620635.1557510961109@mail.yahoo.com>
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 The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.
We'd love to see you there!
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:  
 
 All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


 Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
Regards,Bob LangTR6's

    On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Rod & Dale...
Good for you.? With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.? Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.? Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.? Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows. ?
Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.? Start making plans.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

 Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of? true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.? I want to say in closing? we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.? Rod and Dale Kent _______________________________________________
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 10 16:43:05 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 17:43:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup. Mid-Ohio 2020
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Just rolled in from Buttonwillow.

We will make a more formal announcement in a few days.

I am taking a nap right now. 

Joe Alexander
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> On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.
> 
> We'd love to see you there!
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> 
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
>> 
>> FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bob Lang
>> TR6's
>> 
>> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Rod & Dale...
>> 
>> Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
>> 
>> Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
>> 
>> When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.  
>> 
>> Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.
>> 
>> Bill Dentinger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
>> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
>> 
>> Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri May 10 16:47:43 2019
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 22:47:43 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup. Mid-Ohio 2020
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It?s June 20-23 this year, SVRA event

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Just rolled in from Buttonwillow.

We will make a more formal announcement in a few days.

I am taking a nap right now.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com<http://The-vintage-racer.com>
Gasketinnovations.com<http://Gasketinnovations.com>
Cell:  319.464.4711


On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.

We'd love to see you there!

Regards,
Bob Lang

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com<mailto:gblake58tr3 at icloud.com>> wrote:


All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.

FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.

Regards,
Bob Lang
TR6's

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Rod & Dale...

Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).

Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.

When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.

Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.

Bill Dentinger



-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From dbm.spitfire at gmail.com  Fri May 10 17:47:56 2019
From: dbm.spitfire at gmail.com (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 19:47:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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For reference, the 2019 date is 21-23 June.

On Fri, May 10, 2019, 6:27 PM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each
> year.
>
> We'd love to see you there!
>
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <
> gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:
>
>
> All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at
> least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond)
> and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
>
> FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking
> forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July
> with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> TR6's
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Rod & Dale...
>
> Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect
> for our cars).
>
> Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I
> had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that
> one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen
> hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked
> it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
>
> When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.
> Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.
>
> Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.
>
> Bill Dentinger
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
>
> Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are
> charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we
> would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast
> race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now
> and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so
> many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember
> my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our
> 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly
> copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it
> put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in
> early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting
> John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and
> lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where
> he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also
> high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a
> nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced
> with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate
> racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great
> time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward
> to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Fri May 10 18:52:29 2019
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 19:52:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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It?s only 18hrs 53minutes from Austin. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang <robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.
> 
> We'd love to see you there!
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> 
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
>> 
>> FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bob Lang
>> TR6's
>> 
>> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Rod & Dale...
>> 
>> Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
>> 
>> Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
>> 
>> When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.  
>> 
>> Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.
>> 
>> Bill Dentinger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
>> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
>> 
>> Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri May 10 20:08:02 2019
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 02:08:02 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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6 hrs 30 min from Charlotte

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

It?s only 18hrs 53minutes from Austin.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang <robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com<mailto:robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com>> wrote:

The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.

We'd love to see you there!

Regards,
Bob Lang

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com<mailto:gblake58tr3 at icloud.com>> wrote:


All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.

FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.

Regards,
Bob Lang
TR6's

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Rod & Dale...

Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).

Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.

When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.

Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.

Bill Dentinger



-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Sat May 11 04:58:40 2019
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 10:58:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <C505A599-ED92-4BDC-8A02-48352E9DA6F4@mhc-law.com>
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 google maps says 10 hours for me, but I usually make stops at Hoosier Tire East to talk about tire compounds and pick up a few and then also seem to get distracted by the Summit Racing facility near Akron where I walk around the showroom dazed for an hour or so before picking up some doo-dads and racing stuff... I think the shortest time for me from Massachusetts to MidOhio has been like 14 hours. But it is so worth it.
l8r.Bob Lang

    On Friday, May 10, 2019, 10:08:06 PM EDT, John H. Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com> wrote:  
 
 6 hrs 30 min from Charlotte

Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


It?s only 18hrs 53minutes from Austin.?

Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang <robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com> wrote:


The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.
We'd love to see you there!
Regards,Bob Lang

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:

All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
Regards,Bob LangTR6's

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Rod & Dale...
Good for you.? With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.? Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.? Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.? Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows. ?
Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.? Start making plans.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of? true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.? I want to say in closing? we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.? Rod and Dale Kent_______________________________________________
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sat May 11 07:21:48 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 08:21:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] The Kastner Cup. A Ken Knight Production
Message-ID: <7209FA77-6B64-4EFE-B1E8-238DFFE0AB13@gmail.com>

FOT

Many thanks to Ken Knight to taking this event on as Chair.

It is always a much bigger job than anyone imagines.

It was a huge success and the success will be felt for months and years to come.

Thank you Ken & Terri Knight.

Now onto to Mid-Ohio.

Joe Alexander
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Fri May 10 13:58:21 2019
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 14:58:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
> 
> FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> TR6's
> 
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Rod & Dale...
> 
> Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
> 
> Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
> 
> When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.  
> 
> Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
> 
> Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun May 12 06:43:21 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 07:43:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FOT Logo Decals
Message-ID: <BE0AD75A-5426-4FD2-8749-EC7BC097D8BC@gmail.com>

FOT:

Folks were asking.

We ran off 100 decals. They are about 3 x 5 as before.

Four for $10.00 minimum order.
$2.50 each for additional.

PayPal or Check.

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Regards,

Joe Alexander
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sun May 12 08:48:10 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 07:48:10 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FOT Logo Decals
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These are very nice stickers. The die cut has much less white border than the previous version...

Thanks for making them Joe!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> FOT:
> 
> Folks were asking.
> 
> We ran off 100 decals. They are about 3 x 5 as before.
> 
> Four for $10.00 minimum order.
> $2.50 each for additional.
> 
> PayPal or Check.
> 
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun May 12 09:07:32 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 10:07:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FOT Logo Decals
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Thank you Brad.

Orders are coming in.

We can do larger sized decals to special order. (After I catch up from the Kastner Cup).

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 12, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Brad Eells <tr4abrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> These are very nice stickers. The die cut has much less white border than the previous version...
> 
> Thanks for making them Joe!
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> FOT:
>> 
>> Folks were asking.
>> 
>> We ran off 100 decals. They are about 3 x 5 as before.
>> 
>> Four for $10.00 minimum order.
>> $2.50 each for additional.
>> 
>> PayPal or Check.
>> 
>> <image1.jpeg>
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
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>> 
>> 

From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun May 12 09:29:41 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 10:29:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Performance Awards.  Need Addresses
In-Reply-To: <CAGiQU1DVKmjmNk_X8em5cvk+zWF6S-zjJhitbWoTH7TEhDVC5g@mail.gmail.com>
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FOT:

We have Three Performance Awards.....they are beautiful and a tribute to Peggy.

DALE WALLACE.   TR6.  #66

RANDY RYDEN.   GT6?   #66

???????



I need addresses to send these.

I need the third name. Perhaps it is on video record. Please help. I fell down on the job. I could be fired for this.

Thanks,

Joe Alexander

> 
> the TR-6 guy number 66 is one, that is Dale wallace, Randy Ryden  the GT-6 #66, i do not know who the third might have been. 
> Never be beaten by equipment.
> 
> 
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From jhassall at gmail.com  Sun May 12 09:55:59 2019
From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 11:55:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Performance Awards. Need Addresses
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Wow, that award is awesome.  Peggy would be proud.

jim

On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 11:30 AM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> FOT:
>
> We have Three Performance Awards.....they are beautiful and a tribute to
> Peggy.
>
> DALE WALLACE.   TR6.  #66
>
> RANDY RYDEN.   GT6?   #66
>
> ???????
>
> [image: image1.jpeg]
>
> I need addresses to send these.
>
> I need the third name. Perhaps it is on video record. Please help. I fell
> down on the job. I could be fired for this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Alexander
>
>
> the TR-6 guy number 66 is one, that is Dale wallace, Randy Ryden  the GT-6
> #66, i do not know who the third might have been.
>
> *Never be beaten by equipment.*
>
>
>
>
>>
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From pvucinic at netspace.net.au  Sun May 12 19:15:48 2019
From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 11:15:48 +1000
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling
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Hi John,

Went through that many years ago. Could never get it to function properly on my TR4. Gave up in the end is it was all way too hard and complicated. Engine always ran hot no matter what I did. I had an electronic controller which gave variable speed to the pump unit. But that didn?t make any difference in my case.

 

 

Cheers

 

 

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Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR4 - TR7 V8 - Spitfire MkII

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Styduhar via Fot
Sent: Friday, 10 May 2019 8:27 AM
To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling

 

Anyone have any experience with installation of an electric water pump on the TR wet sleeve engine??    Having trouble with temperature control on the Davies Craig 115 pump and controller kit I installed on my TR3.  Flow rate is advertised at 115 liters/minute.     Thanks

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From mdporter at dfn.com  Sun May 12 21:13:13 2019
From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 21:13:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling
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On 5/12/2019 7:15 PM, Peter Vucinic via Fot wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Went through that many years ago. Could never get it to function 
> properly on my TR4. Gave up in the end is it was all way too hard and 
> complicated. Engine always ran hot no matter what I did. I had an 
> electronic controller which gave variable speed to the pump unit. But 
> that didn?t make any difference in my case.
>

Unfortunately, pumps are almost always rated by their flow rate through 
an open orifice, and one has to figure in the pumping losses through the 
engine.? So, if an engine produces x amount of heat per minute, then the 
actual flow rate, given the specific heat of water, has to be able to 
remove x amount of heat per minute.? A cast-iron engine with lots of 
rusty-crusties in the passages is certainly going to have a flow rate a 
fair amount lower than an open orifice (not that those rusty-crusties 
aren't important--heat transfer off of rusty cast iron is higher than 
with any other metal because of the surface area).

The other big problem with pumps is that one needs to know their flow at 
specific head pressures, because without the pump being able to build 
pressure and still move fluid, hot-running engines will inevitably 
succumb to nucleate boiling and overheat.

In theory, one could have an electric pump that's more efficient than a 
mechanical one, in the same way that electric fans, with the maximum 
efficiency blade pitch matched to the motor rpm, are more efficient than 
engine-driven fans.? However, I suspect that the makers of the kits out 
there are assembling them from the parts available, not engineering them 
to requirements.


Cheers.

-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


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From fmccjr at aol.com  Mon May 13 05:17:13 2019
From: fmccjr at aol.com (Rick McCurdy)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 07:17:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
References: <D48C54F7-30AA-41D7-B397-9B96A9438EEE.ref@aol.com>
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Some of you may have heard about a New Yorkers? attempt to get to the 
K Cup last weekend, but here?s the skinny:

After long weeks of long days, I finished repairing bodywork from when I smacked the wall backwards at the Canadian Vintage Gran Prix at Mosport last June, and the car reassembled (just) in time to depart New York?s Hudson Valley on Sunday morning,  April 28. Of course, the one thing I didn?t have time to do before loading was to get the car running. Since I was planning on passing through Dayton, I called a long time Sunbeam club friend and asked for help. (How tough is it to get a tractor engine to run?!) Doug Jennings, who owned Tiger Auto in Dayton for decades before retiring a few years ago was the perfect choice.

I arrived at Doug?s around 8:30, had a quick bite of his wife?s (wonderful!) Lasagna, and winched the car into his garage to get the tr3 started. 3 hours later, nothing. Bupkis. Nada. We could not get the car to even cough using starting fluid! New plugs the next morning didn?t matter. The car would. not. start. 

I left Dayton for home sometime after noon the next day, an unhappy camper. Disappointing as it was, there still is no sense in dragging a dead race car to California and back. So, I went home. 

There is spark, fuel and (barely)compression. When I got home I took it to another Brit car friend who owns a shop and offered to give it a look. We measured an average 105 lbs for comp (it should have done SOMETHING!) and timing was judged to be correct. What we did not do was a leak down test. I don?t know why we didn?t think of that before removing the head... Where the heck is mine when I need it?!

Head removal revealed some scoring of the walls, ugly corrosion in the chambers, but nothing blatant. When I crashed last year, apparently the top rad hose popped off the spout and water was introduced into the intake. Who knew!? I hit the wall backwards after rounding turn 10, and the little birdies were flying around the little stars before I shut down the motor and gingerly extricated myself from the car. I didn?t know for 6 more weeks that I had a handful of broken vertebrae (thank you, HANS device..!), now fully repaired with the neurosurgeons approval to race, by the way. I discovered the water evidence when I had to remove the manifolds to weld up the ripped exhaust collector. Inside the ports were rust remains that definitely should not have been there- and the starter didn?t spin the motor until I pulled plugs, squirted WD-40 into the cyls and bumped the started button until it loosened up and spun freely. 
Next season, when the water is drained for winter, it will get the cylinders lubricated! That is, when I finally get the darn thing to run...

My big adventure was a bust. Bummed I missed it (a good one, from all the great comments!), bummed I didn?t get to see west coast friends, but still determined to be at Mid-Ohio next year!

Since I?ve had the head and manifolds off a number of times, it?s time for a new gaskets (both head and manifold). The solid copper gasket worked great, but took me at least three tries to get it to seal after the prev head gasket failed at the ?17 Lime Rock Historics. I ended up using silicone ll. It worked, but it?s messy and unorthodox.

So, does anyone have a suggestion for replacement gaskets? I?m not trying to be a frontrunner, I just crave reliability at this point- a weekend where I can drive off the trailer, race, and drive back on the trailer with nothing broken or suspect. Just once!

Down, but not out. Yours truly,

Rick McCurdy
Newburgh, NY

I know... I know, I waited a long time to work on the car, but I was working on restoring a friends big Healey, and that had priority. It?s beautiful, but took much longer than anticipated. Just call me ?Mr. Vertical Learning Curve?!
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Mon May 13 07:19:38 2019
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 08:19:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Mid-Ohio Kastner Cup 2020
Message-ID: <86F0132F-E61A-4683-ADF7-409D251A4263@cs.com>

FOT:

We started going to M-O in 1992. The SVRA event in June has ALWAYS been the week after Father?s Day Weekend. I don?t expect that to change.

An additional feature of this schedule is that the Black Hawk Classic is ALWAYS on Father?s Day Weekend. It is possible to run back to back weekends. (Uncle Jack and I did, once.)

I hope to meet with SVRA next weekend, but that has not been set. Casual planning has been ongoing for a year, now we will step up the activity.

More later,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon May 13 07:38:29 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 08:38:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Regalia Type Stuff
Message-ID: <1DAC0890-0406-4348-AD62-E348DDF00B7B@gmail.com>

Just a reminder:

Kas? Hard Copy Books. We have three out of the four books. ?MYTHS? is gone forever, except on digital on Kas? Website.

The Three Pack of Books is $80 including shipping....while they last.  PayPal or Check.  N197tr4 at cs.com

People are ordering the 3 x 5 FOT Decal. I had 100 made. Down to about 50.  Four for $10 including postage. $2.50 each beyond that.  PayPay or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com

The award winning Steve Belfer Kastner Cup Posters are essentially all gone. If there were enough interest, I could do a short run of the limited edition 17 x 11 heavy bond paper. Maybe 25? Kind of a pain, but I don?t mind. These posters are very collectible. And Hobby Lobby has a great glass frame for under $10.00. Let me know.

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
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The-vintage-racer.com
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From billdentin at aol.com  Mon May 13 08:58:47 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 14:58:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
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Good for you, Rick. ?
Just another one of us unstoppable...tenacious Triumph merry masochists...down, but not out!
I am proud of you. ?
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick McCurdy via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, May 13, 2019 4:17 am
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.

Some of you may have heard about a New Yorkers? attempt to get to the?K Cup last weekend, but here?s the skinny:
After long weeks of long days, I finished repairing bodywork from when I smacked the wall backwards at the Canadian Vintage Gran Prix at Mosport last June, and the car reassembled (just) in time to depart New York?s Hudson Valley on Sunday morning, ?April 28. Of course, the one thing I didn?t have?time to do before loading was to get the car running. Since I was planning on passing through Dayton, I called a long time Sunbeam club friend and asked for help. (How tough is it to get a tractor engine to run?!) Doug Jennings, who owned Tiger Auto in Dayton for decades before retiring a few years ago was the perfect choice.

I arrived at Doug?s around 8:30, had a quick bite of his wife?s (wonderful!) Lasagna, and winched the car into his garage to get the tr3 started. 3 hours later, nothing. Bupkis. Nada. We could not get the car to even cough using starting fluid! New plugs the next morning didn?t matter. The car would. not. start.?

I left Dayton for home sometime after noon the next day, an unhappy camper. Disappointing as it was, there still is no sense in dragging a dead race car to California and back. So, I went home.?

There is spark, fuel and (barely)compression. When I got home I took it to another Brit car friend who owns a shop and offered to give it a look. We measured an average 105 lbs for comp (it should have done SOMETHING!) and timing was judged to be correct. What we did not do was a leak down test. I don?t know why we didn?t think of that before removing the head... Where the heck is mine when I need it?!

Head removal revealed some scoring of the walls, ugly corrosion in the chambers, but nothing blatant. When I crashed last year, apparently the top rad hose popped off the spout and water was introduced into the intake. Who knew!? I hit the wall backwards after rounding turn 10, and the little birdies were flying around the little stars before I shut down the motor and gingerly extricated myself from the car. I didn?t know for 6 more weeks that I had a handful of broken vertebrae (thank you, HANS device..!), now fully repaired with the neurosurgeons approval to race, by the way. I discovered the water evidence when I had to remove the manifolds to weld up the ripped exhaust collector. Inside the ports were rust remains that definitely should not have been there- and the starter didn?t spin the motor until I pulled plugs, squirted WD-40 into the cyls and bumped the started button until it loosened up and spun freely.?Next season, when the water is drained for winter, it will get the cylinders lubricated! That is, when I finally get the darn thing to run...

My big adventure was a bust. Bummed I missed it (a good one, from all the great comments!), bummed I didn?t get to see west coast friends, but still determined to be at Mid-Ohio next year!
Since I?ve had the head and manifolds off a number of times, it?s time for a new gaskets (both head and manifold). The solid copper gasket worked great, but took me at least three tries to get it to seal after the prev head gasket failed at the ?17 Lime Rock Historics. I ended up using silicone ll. It worked, but it?s messy and unorthodox.
So, does anyone have a suggestion for replacement gaskets? I?m not trying to be a frontrunner, I just crave reliability at this point- a weekend where I can drive off the trailer, race, and drive back on the trailer with nothing broken or suspect. Just once!
Down, but not out. Yours truly,
Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY
I know... I know, I waited a long time to work on the car, but I was working on restoring a friends big Healey, and that had priority. It?s beautiful, but took much longer than anticipated. Just call me ?Mr. Vertical Learning Curve?!_______________________________________________
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Mon May 13 11:15:36 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (tony at tonydrews.com)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 13:15:36 -0400
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
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I use Cometic head gasket.  Fire ring is round, so you may need to go  
larger than cylinder diameter to minimize protrusion in the eyebrow of  
the intake pocket in the head.  The have up to 91 mm diameter if you  
call them (website just shows 88 mm).  Two thicknesses are available  
too.  I run the 91 mm diameter one.

For intake gasket, Remflex is the way to go if you have sealing  
issues.  They have a pre cut option, or you can buy partial sheets and  
make your own.  I make my own because the intake port holes are too  
large and my intake manifold has narrow sealing surfaces.

Tony Drews

Quoting Rick McCurdy via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:

> Some of you may have heard about a New Yorkers? attempt to get to the
> K Cup last weekend, but here?s the skinny:
>
> After long weeks of long days, I finished repairing bodywork from  
> when I smacked the wall backwards at the Canadian Vintage Gran Prix  
> at Mosport last June, and the car reassembled (just) in time to  
> depart New York?s Hudson Valley on Sunday morning,  April 28. Of  
> course, the one thing I didn?t have time to do before loading was to  
> get the car running. Since I was planning on passing through Dayton,  
> I called a long time Sunbeam club friend and asked for help. (How  
> tough is it to get a tractor engine to run?!) Doug Jennings, who  
> owned Tiger Auto in Dayton for decades before retiring a few years  
> ago was the perfect choice.
>
> I arrived at Doug?s around 8:30, had a quick bite of his wife?s  
> (wonderful!) Lasagna, and winched the car into his garage to get the  
> tr3 started. 3 hours later, nothing. Bupkis. Nada. We could not get  
> the car to even cough using starting fluid! New plugs the next  
> morning didn?t matter. The car would. not. start.
>
> I left Dayton for home sometime after noon the next day, an unhappy  
> camper. Disappointing as it was, there still is no sense in dragging  
> a dead race car to California and back. So, I went home.
>
> There is spark, fuel and (barely)compression. When I got home I took  
> it to another Brit car friend who owns a shop and offered to give it  
> a look. We measured an average 105 lbs for comp (it should have done  
> SOMETHING!) and timing was judged to be correct. What we did not do  
> was a leak down test. I don?t know why we didn?t think of that  
> before removing the head... Where the heck is mine when I need it?!
>
> Head removal revealed some scoring of the walls, ugly corrosion in  
> the chambers, but nothing blatant. When I crashed last year,  
> apparently the top rad hose popped off the spout and water was  
> introduced into the intake. Who knew!? I hit the wall backwards  
> after rounding turn 10, and the little birdies were flying around  
> the little stars before I shut down the motor and gingerly  
> extricated myself from the car. I didn?t know for 6 more weeks that  
> I had a handful of broken vertebrae (thank you, HANS device..!), now  
> fully repaired with the neurosurgeons approval to race, by the way.  
> I discovered the water evidence when I had to remove the manifolds  
> to weld up the ripped exhaust collector. Inside the ports were rust  
> remains that definitely should not have been there- and the starter  
> didn?t spin the motor until I pulled plugs, squirted WD-40 into the  
> cyls and bumped the started button until it loosened up and spun  
> freely.
> Next season, when the water is drained for winter, it will get the  
> cylinders lubricated! That is, when I finally get the darn thing to  
> run...
>
> My big adventure was a bust. Bummed I missed it (a good one, from  
> all the great comments!), bummed I didn?t get to see west coast  
> friends, but still determined to be at Mid-Ohio next year!
>
> Since I?ve had the head and manifolds off a number of times, it?s  
> time for a new gaskets (both head and manifold). The solid copper  
> gasket worked great, but took me at least three tries to get it to  
> seal after the prev head gasket failed at the ?17 Lime Rock  
> Historics. I ended up using silicone ll. It worked, but it?s messy  
> and unorthodox.
>
> So, does anyone have a suggestion for replacement gaskets? I?m not  
> trying to be a frontrunner, I just crave reliability at this point-  
> a weekend where I can drive off the trailer, race, and drive back on  
> the trailer with nothing broken or suspect. Just once!
>
> Down, but not out. Yours truly,
>
> Rick McCurdy
> Newburgh, NY
>
> I know... I know, I waited a long time to work on the car, but I was  
> working on restoring a friends big Healey, and that had priority.  
> It?s beautiful, but took much longer than anticipated. Just call me  
> ?Mr. Vertical Learning Curve?!




From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon May 13 12:49:00 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 13:49:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] The Kastner Cup. A Ken Knight Production
References: <003001d50997$e3441820$a9cc4860$@klaenv.com>
Message-ID: <8F553DCD-CEE4-4C34-94BA-8D12FF9521B4@gmail.com>

This comes from Ken Knight. A thank you to all.


> 
> Joe;
> 
> There are lots of people that deserve to be mentioned for help with this
> event.
> 
> First, as always, is Kas.  He was in on all the planning and kept us on
> point.  
> 
> Joe, you are the "Keeper of the Flame" for all of these events.  Jeanette at
> VARA worked very hard to give us everything we asked for and more (as did
> the club).  Steve Belfer did his magic with all the posters.  Moss Motors
> stepped up (Thanks to Robert Goldman) to get Peter Brock to the event.
> Peter, his awesome trailer and his personal Cobra Daytona were a big hit.
> Bill Hart made the TR-250K available and is trusting enough to let  Tony
> drive the beast!  Mordy Dunst provided the much needed garage space for our
> clan to gather, a big thanks there.  Rod Sussman gave us a short Drivers
> Meeting and behind the scenes VARA guys John Wilkens and Val Ascensio
> helped with the race action.  Alan Berry provided stickers.  John Linney and
> Shawn Frank made the trek out west to cover the event and put together a
> video.  Finally, there are all the racers who busted butt to get cars ready
> and to drive from Canada, the Midwest, the Pacific Northwest, New Mexico and
> Texas to run the race.  If I have forgotten anyone my apologies!

Pivotal to the weekend is Videographer, John Linney. Editing is in progress and the preliminary results are extraordinary. You will see yourself in action. A lot of it.
> 
> No event is done by one person, it was a team effort.  So my thanks to all
> that helped!
> 
> Cheers, Ken
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via
> Fot
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 6:22 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Cc: Jeanette.Bourke at vararacing.com
> Subject: [Fot] The Kastner Cup. A Ken Knight Production
> 
> FOT
> 
> Many thanks to Ken Knight to taking this event on as Chair.
> 
> It is always a much bigger job than anyone imagines.
> 
> It was a huge success and the success will be felt for months and years to
> come.
> 
> Thank you Ken & Terri Knight.
> 
> Now onto to Mid-Ohio.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From ac at camoletti.ch  Tue May 14 07:55:45 2019
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:55:45 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
Message-ID: <00e601d50a5c$ba79a160$2f6ce420$@camoletti.ch>

Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion last year, two questions:

 

1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?

 

2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?

 

Thanks for your suggestions here!

Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)

Alex Camoletti

 

De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
Envoy? : vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
? : Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet : Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source

 

I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.  Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay of game.

https://www.calicocoatings.com/

Tony Drews

 

On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:

anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out? 

 

Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?

 

thanks,

Scott






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From rick.parent at att.net  Tue May 14 08:05:27 2019
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:05:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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 Install as is, enjoy!
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 9:56:04 AM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
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Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion last year, two questions:

 ?

1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?

 ?

2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?

 ?

Thanks for your suggestions here!

Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)

Alex Camoletti

 ?

De?: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
Envoy??: vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
??: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet?: Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source

 ?

I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.? Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.? Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.? That was a delay of game.

https://www.calicocoatings.com/

Tony Drews

 ?

On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:


anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out? 

 ?

Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?

 ?

thanks,

Scott





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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Tue May 14 08:13:51 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 10:13:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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If I asked my engine builder, he would snicker and ask me to leave.

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:05 AM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Install as is, enjoy!
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 9:56:04 AM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion
> last year, two questions:
>
>
>
> 1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10
> microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?
>
>
>
> 2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will
> tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded
> to remove the coating and restore the original ID?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestions here!
>
> Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)
>
> Alex Camoletti
>
>
>
> *De :* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] *De la part de* Tony Drews
> via Fot
> *Envoy? :* vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
> *? :* Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> *Objet :* Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source
>
>
>
> I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to
> Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're looking for, but
> Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.
> Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to
> Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay of game.
>
> https://www.calicocoatings.com/
>
> Tony Drews
>
>
>
> On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
>
> anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for
> the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to
> subsequently send them out?
>
>
>
> Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Tue May 14 08:19:45 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:19:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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#1- I've had all of my bearings treated (Polymer Dynamics Houston Tx) for decades. 
They call out thickness @ .0002-.0004, I usually find about 2/10s (per shell), so it sure does affect clearance.#2- I wouldn't touch the parting faces, unless there were obviously heavy deposits on the ends; it directly affects the crush or grip of the bearings, not so much the housing bore of the bearings dimensionally.

Glen

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, May 14, 2019 9:56 am
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings

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Envoy??: vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
??: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet?: Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source ?I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.? Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.? Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.? That was a delay of game.https://www.calicocoatings.com/Tony Drews ?On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out?  ?Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same? ?thanks,Scott


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From rick.parent at att.net  Tue May 14 08:46:14 2019
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:46:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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 Haha, that's funny, I also use that same coating for my oil pumps, it makes quite the difference in pressure and longevity. There is some break in procedure before it can be installed though.
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 10:14:04 AM EDT, John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 If I asked my engine builder, he would snicker and ask me to leave.
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:05 AM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

 Install as is, enjoy!
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 9:56:04 AM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion last year, two questions:

 ?

1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?

 ?

2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?

 ?

Thanks for your suggestions here!

Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)

Alex Camoletti

 ?

De?: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
Envoy??: vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
??: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet?: Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source

 ?

I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.? Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.? Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.? That was a delay of game.

https://www.calicocoatings.com/

Tony Drews

 ?

On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:


anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out? 

 ?

Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?

 ?

thanks,

Scott





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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Tue May 14 09:34:33 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 08:34:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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Which coating are we talking about for bearings...their site has about 50 different types...

Brad Eells
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> On May 14, 2019, at 7:46 AM, Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Haha, that's funny, I also use that same coating for my oil pumps, it makes quite the difference in pressure and longevity. There is some break in procedure before it can be installed though.
> 
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 10:14:04 AM EDT, John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> If I asked my engine builder, he would snicker and ask me to leave.
> 
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:05 AM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Install as is, enjoy!
> 
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 9:56:04 AM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion last year, two questions:
> 
>  
> 
> 1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?
> 
>  
> 
> 2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions here!
> 
> Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)
> 
> Alex Camoletti
> 
>  
> 
> De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
> Envoy? : vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
> ? : Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> Objet : Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source
> 
>  
> 
> I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.  Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay of game.
> 
> https://www.calicocoatings.com/
> 
> Tony Drews
> 
>  
> 
> On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
> 
> anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out?
> 
>  
> 
> Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?
> 
>  
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Tue May 14 09:59:59 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 08:59:59 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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Looks like the right stuff. The company is based in the heart of NASCAR
country. They would likely be the authority on any need for crank
modifications based on film thickness.

https://www.calicocoatings.com/coating-data-sheets/ct-1-dry-film-lubricant/


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On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 6:55 AM Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion
> last year, two questions:
>
>
>
> 1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10
> microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?
>
>
>
> 2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will
> tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded
> to remove the coating and restore the original ID?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestions here!
>
> Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)
>
> Alex Camoletti
>
>
>
> *De :* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] *De la part de* Tony Drews
> via Fot
> *Envoy? :* vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
> *? :* Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> *Objet :* Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source
>
>
>
> I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to
> Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're looking for, but
> Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.
> Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to
> Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay of game.
>
> https://www.calicocoatings.com/
>
> Tony Drews
>
>
>
> On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
>
> anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for
> the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to
> subsequently send them out?
>
>
>
> Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Scott
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue May 14 10:46:55 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (tony at tonydrews.com)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 12:46:55 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
In-Reply-To: <00e601d50a5c$ba79a160$2f6ce420$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <20190514124655.Horde.1dlYK4fuWMwXEAqBWQMUjZs@tonydrews.com>

I concur with the ?install as is?.  I just make sure they are nice and clean.

Wouldn?t hurt to check the clearance, but it?s never been an issue for me.

Regards, Tony Drews

Quoting Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch>:

> Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings)  
> discussion last year, two questions:
>
>
>
> 1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx.  
> 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the  
> clearance?
>
>
>
> 2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this  
> will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the  
> edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestions here!
>
> Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)
>
> Alex Camoletti
>
>
>
> De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
> Envoy? : vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
> ? : Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> Objet : Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source
>
>
>
> I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send  
> them to Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're  
> looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years  
> and am very happy with.  Just be sure to mail them them Denver North  
> Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay  
> of game.
>
> https://www.calicocoatings.com/
>
> Tony Drews
>
>
>
> On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
>
> anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings  
> for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to  
> subsequently send them out?
>
>
>
> Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Scott
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From john at linneyweb.com  Tue May 14 12:17:44 2019
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 11:17:44 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
Message-ID: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>

I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI

I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 

If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 

If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.

On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.

I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.

I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.

-john

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
408 887 8105

https://classicmotorfilms.com


From bownes at web9.com  Tue May 14 13:11:27 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:11:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
References: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOSB9_8b7Ain6+xoUd2UvFZKxWZgyGfpk-4GOj4n5RXvwA@mail.gmail.com>

Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a
triumph based race car....


On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 2:17 PM John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019
> Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel.
> https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>
> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event.
> As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided
> by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all
> synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very
> exciting racing.
>
> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube
> channel and sharing it with your friends.
>
> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at
> https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future
> projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not
> too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.
>
> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also
> enjoy and share.
>
> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and
> overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the
> week-end.
>
> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony
> Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously
> provided footage.
>
> -john
>
> John Linney
> Classic Motor Films
> 408 887 8105
>
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Tue May 14 16:28:32 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:28:32 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
References: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
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That?s a mighty effort John...Bravo, well done!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2019, at 11:17 AM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
> 
> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 
> 
> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 
> 
> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.
> 
> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.
> 
> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.
> 
> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.
> 
> -john
> 
> John Linney
> Classic Motor Films
> 408 887 8105
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Tue May 14 17:45:59 2019
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 23:45:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
References: <681527945.2317085.1557877559298.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <681527945.2317085.1557877559298@mail.yahoo.com>

Damnd good job !!!!?

MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2
 On?Tuesday, May 14, 2019,?John Linney via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI

I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 

If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 

If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.

On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.

I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.

I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.

-john

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https://classicmotorfilms.com

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From Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com  Tue May 14 19:18:57 2019
From: Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 18:18:57 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
Message-ID: <dbda32a2815448b39702a3a3740b981d.Gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com>

That is a great job putting together that video! 
Thanks to everyone who participated. 


Greg Solow
The Engine Room
Sports Car Specialists
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
831 429-1800



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>From    : John Linney via Fot[mailto:fot at autox.team.net]
Sent    : 5/14/2019 11:17:44 AM
To      : fot at autox.team.net
Cc      : 
Subject : RE: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video

 I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that
my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now
available to watch on my YouTube channel. 
https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI 

I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the
spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own
cameras, there are shots generously provided by
drivers. The race portion consists of nine different
camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give
a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 

If you enjoy it, please help me do more by
subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with
your friends. 

If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at
 https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/  to get
updates on future projects. I have plans for other
videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if
you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.

On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which
I hope you will also enjoy and share.

I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to
create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity
and support of everyone I met over the week-end.

I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg
Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as
well as all the racers who so generously provided
footage.

-john

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
408 887 8105

 https://classicmotorfilms.com 

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Tue May 14 19:38:02 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 20:38:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Decals and Kastner Cup Posters. Availability Status.
Message-ID: <4C7E14C5-D993-4EA4-905D-13352FE67A0F@gmail.com>

FOT:

I ran 100 decals, thinking that I would have them for a long time. Not so. I am now down to 25 3 x 5 decals.

$10 = 4 decals delivered. $2.50 each after the first four.


I ran 100 special edition 17 x 11 collectible posters with artwork by Steve Belfer. They are gone, but I am going to do a short run.

$15 protected in a new mailing tube and delivered. 

This Kastner Cup, produced  by Chair Ken Knight, was an exceptional event that will be remembered for a very long time. 

????????????????????-

In addition to the Kastner Cup Event, there was a historical reunion of Kas Kastner, Peter Brock, and the TR250K. Converging from Washington, Nevada, and California, this unlikely to happen again. A celebration of a great automotive legacy with two automotive icons.

The Kastner Cup and the FOT are on a roll. See you at Mid-Ohio in 2020. It?s where it all began.

Thanks,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From gasket.works at gte.net  Tue May 14 22:31:05 2019
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 04:31:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
References: <123310733.2412837.1557894665415.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <123310733.2412837.1557894665415@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all: ?
Kas asked me?to make a quick comnent on the?race. ?

The ?Linney video?compilation is extraordinary. ??The race started cleanly enough. ?The three leaders mueller, garmey and knight were duking it ?out in front. I had a ring side view?watching them in?fourth?position. ??After about two laps Ken knight had a mechanical issue slowed and eventually pulled off course near the sweeper. ?? That left john?mueller and Tony Garmey in?front. After a couple of laps I was able to pass Tony on the inside of the sweeper?just before the Esses. ? Tony was to recapture that position on the next lap at riverside corner due to?traffic interference. He and Mueller were neck?and neck. ? I passed once again and was behind Mueller when at the Truck stop turn Mueller?got out of sorts and off track. ?Made lots of dust. ?I had to avoid collision?and ?got out if sorts too. ?Made two 360?s and ended up facing the correct way on track left. It was a dangerous spot. ?.?Took literally?two minutes of cranking motor until it cleared and fired up (just as safety truck arrived to assist). ? I took off but, a whole lap down. ?? I saw black flag at next station (acknowledged it - thinking? it was for?me) then recognized that every flag station had a?standing black flag. ?I wondered why that was needed. ?Yes, there were a few cars with mechanicals ?on course but, they were very safe and off line. ?
Mordy
?
MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2
 On?Tuesday, May 14, 2019,?John Linney via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI

I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 

If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 

If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.

On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.

I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.

I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.

-john

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
408 887 8105

https://classicmotorfilms.com

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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May 15 00:38:23 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 00:38:23 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1+nOSB9_8b7Ain6+xoUd2UvFZKxWZgyGfpk-4GOj4n5RXvwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
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Message-ID: <1a606d68-dec5-41e4-28a0-0e7c26d019c2@bradakis.com>

On 5/14/19 1:11 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
> Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a 
> triumph based race car....
>

A formula car with a TR8 motor ....

mjb.



From johnstydo at gmail.com  Wed May 15 06:21:33 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 08:21:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <123310733.2412837.1557894665415@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <123310733.2412837.1557894665415@mail.yahoo.com>
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For the sake of trying to stay on the vintage event schedule, some clubs
will black flag a race instead of full course yellow or partial yellow to
provide time for vehicle recovery, track cleanup, or to punish the group
for not being polite to each other on the racetrack.


On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:31 AM Mordy Dunst via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> Kas asked me to make a quick comnent on the race.
>
>
> The  Linney video compilation is extraordinary.   The race started
> cleanly enough.  The three leaders mueller, garmey and knight were duking
> it  out in front. I had a ring side view watching them in fourth position.
>   After about two laps Ken knight had a mechanical issue slowed and
> eventually pulled off course near the sweeper.    That left john mueller
> and Tony Garmey in front. After a couple of laps I was able to pass Tony on
> the inside of the sweeper just before the Esses.   Tony was to recapture
> that position on the next lap at riverside corner due to traffic
> interference. He and Mueller were neck and neck.   I passed once again and
> was behind Mueller when at the Truck stop turn Mueller got out of sorts and
> off track.  Made lots of dust.  I had to avoid collision and  got out if
> sorts too.  Made two 360?s and ended up facing the correct way on track
> left. It was a dangerous spot.  . Took literally two minutes of cranking
> motor until it cleared and fired up (just as safety truck arrived to
> assist).   I took off but, a whole lap down.    I saw black flag at next
> station (acknowledged it - thinking  it was for me) then recognized that
> every flag station had a standing black flag.  I wondered why that was
> needed.  Yes, there were a few cars with mechanicals  on course but, they
> were very safe and off line.
>
> Mordy
>
>
>
> MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616
> Fax 626.628.3777
> Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471
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>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019
> Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel.
> https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>
> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event.
> As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided
> by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all
> synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very
> exciting racing.
>
> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube
> channel and sharing it with your friends.
>
> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/
> to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related
> to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it
> into this video.
>
> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also
> enjoy and share.
>
> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and
> overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the
> week-end.
>
> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony
> Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously
> provided footage.
>
> -john
>
> John Linney
> Classic Motor Films
> 408 887 8105
>
> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>
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> fot at autox.team.net
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Wed May 15 08:06:50 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 07:06:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <CAMJWJcGrehn2z57kcuoGHBmYX8K_6YLDkNEjckGQo597q7kv6g@mail.gmail.com>
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In this case, it was the last race of the day, but there was a BBQ to get to...

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> For the sake of trying to stay on the vintage event schedule, some clubs will black flag a race instead of full course yellow or partial yellow to provide time for vehicle recovery, track cleanup, or to punish the group for not being polite to each other on the racetrack. 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:31 AM Mordy Dunst via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Hi all:  
>> 
>> Kas asked me to make a quick comnent on the race.  
>> 
>> 
>> The  Linney video compilation is extraordinary.   The race started cleanly enough.  The three leaders mueller, garmey and knight were duking it  out in front. I had a ring side view watching them in fourth position.   After about two laps Ken knight had a mechanical issue slowed and eventually pulled off course near the sweeper.    That left john mueller and Tony Garmey in front. After a couple of laps I was able to pass Tony on the inside of the sweeper just before the Esses.   Tony was to recapture that position on the next lap at riverside corner due to traffic interference. He and Mueller were neck and neck.   I passed once again and was behind Mueller when at the Truck stop turn Mueller got out of sorts and off track.  Made lots of dust.  I had to avoid collision and  got out if sorts too.  Made two 360?s and ended up facing the correct way on track left. It was a dangerous spot.  . Took literally two minutes of cranking motor until it cleared and fired up (just as safety truck arrived to assist).   I took off but, a whole lap down.    I saw black flag at next station (acknowledged it - thinking  it was for me) then recognized that every flag station had a standing black flag.  I wondered why that was needed.  Yes, there were a few cars with mechanicals  on course but, they were very safe and off line.  
>> 
>> Mordy
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 
>> Fax 626.628.3777 
>> Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 
>> T FFL 6,7 SOT 2
>> 
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>> 
>> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 
>> 
>> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 
>> 
>> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.
>> 
>> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.
>> 
>> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.
>> 
>> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.
>> 
>> -john
>> 
>> John Linney
>> Classic Motor Films
>> 408 887 8105
>> 
>> https://classicmotorfilms.com
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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Wed May 15 13:29:29 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 15:29:29 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
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Well, a BBQ engagement is certainly black flag worthy. ?


On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 10:06 AM Brad Eells <tr4abrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> In this case, it was the last race of the day, but there was a BBQ to get
> to...
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> For the sake of trying to stay on the vintage event schedule, some clubs
> will black flag a race instead of full course yellow or partial yellow to
> provide time for vehicle recovery, track cleanup, or to punish the group
> for not being polite to each other on the racetrack.
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:31 AM Mordy Dunst via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> Kas asked me to make a quick comnent on the race.
>>
>>
>> The  Linney video compilation is extraordinary.   The race started
>> cleanly enough.  The three leaders mueller, garmey and knight were duking
>> it  out in front. I had a ring side view watching them in fourth position.
>>   After about two laps Ken knight had a mechanical issue slowed and
>> eventually pulled off course near the sweeper.    That left john mueller
>> and Tony Garmey in front. After a couple of laps I was able to pass Tony on
>> the inside of the sweeper just before the Esses.   Tony was to recapture
>> that position on the next lap at riverside corner due to traffic
>> interference. He and Mueller were neck and neck.   I passed once again and
>> was behind Mueller when at the Truck stop turn Mueller got out of sorts and
>> off track.  Made lots of dust.  I had to avoid collision and  got out if
>> sorts too.  Made two 360?s and ended up facing the correct way on track
>> left. It was a dangerous spot.  . Took literally two minutes of cranking
>> motor until it cleared and fired up (just as safety truck arrived to
>> assist).   I took off but, a whole lap down.    I saw black flag at next
>> station (acknowledged it - thinking  it was for me) then recognized that
>> every flag station had a standing black flag.  I wondered why that was
>> needed.  Yes, there were a few cars with mechanicals  on course but,
>> they were very safe and off line.
>>
>> Mordy
>>
>>
>>
>> MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616
>> Fax 626.628.3777
>> Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471
>> T FFL 6,7 SOT 2
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019
>> Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel.
>> https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>>
>> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the
>> event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously
>> provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera
>> angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of
>> some very exciting racing.
>>
>> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube
>> channel and sharing it with your friends.
>>
>> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/
>> to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related
>> to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it
>> into this video.
>>
>> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also
>> enjoy and share.
>>
>> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and
>> overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the
>> week-end.
>>
>> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank,
>> Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously
>> provided footage.
>>
>> -john
>>
>> John Linney
>> Classic Motor Films
>> 408 887 8105
>>
>> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>>
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed May 15 22:03:56 2019
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 21:03:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Union Jack Challenge video
Message-ID: <139806162.61636.1557979437035@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello Friends,

I posted a video today of the Sunday all British race from the Buttonwillow event.  

Stay tuned for the Kastner Cup video.  I'll post it once it is edited.

Cheers,

Dave H.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdqHL-eFSSU
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From bownes at web9.com  Wed May 15 22:33:31 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:31 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
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If only someone had ever built one. Closest I can come is an F3 car with a
Dolomite Sprint motor in it. But it's based on a March 783 chassis. Of
which 11 were made. :(




On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:38 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> On 5/14/19 1:11 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
> > Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a
> > triumph based race car....
> >
>
> A formula car with a TR8 motor ....
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Thu May 16 06:16:22 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 08:16:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR8 engine
Message-ID: <001e01d50be1$2d92cc00$88b86400$@rogers.com>

Mickey Thomson 1962 Indy 500 with basically the same engine

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Thompson#1962

 

 

Jack Brabham  in a much modified Repco V8  engine used in F1

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repco

 

 

 

 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robert bownes via Fot
Sent: May 16, 2019 12:34 AM
To: Mark J Bradakis
Cc: FOT
Subject: Re: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video

 

 

If only someone had ever built one. Closest I can come is an F3 car with a Dolomite Sprint motor in it. But it's based on a March 783 chassis. Of which 11 were made. :(

 

 

 

 

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:38 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

On 5/14/19 1:11 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
> Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a 
> triumph based race car....
>

A formula car with a TR8 motor ....

mjb.


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From kknight at klaenv.com  Thu May 16 08:52:40 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Kenneth Knight)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 07:52:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Useful website
Message-ID: <000f01d50bf7$02f81ca0$08e855e0$@klaenv.com>

In a gate building video I watched on YouTube the maker highlighted this
very cool website for making templates to cut pipe miters for welding.  I
looked at the site and there are many functions for layout and other things,
like pulley calculator, that are free and easy to use at home and in the
workshop.  Plans and templates can be printed.

 

Check out www.blocklayer.com  

 

Good building!

 

Ken

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From billdentin at aol.com  Thu May 16 09:03:28 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 15:03:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Useful website
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WOW!? Good stuff. ?
The concrete calculation stuff sure takes me back to my old days when I was a contractor..
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
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To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, May 16, 2019 7:53 am
Subject: [Fot] Useful website

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From rick.parent at att.net  Thu May 16 11:18:30 2019
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 17:18:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Useful website
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 Believe it or not they have a great free gear calculator I use frequently.
https://www.blocklayer.com/rpm-gear.aspx
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 ?

Check out www.blocklayer.com? 

 ?

Good building!

 ?

Ken
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From fmccjr at aol.com  Thu May 16 11:39:00 2019
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:39:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
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Rings were stuck, and rust prevented valves from sealing. Head and pistons are at machine shop. Hoping to get it buttoned up before the VSCCA weekend st Lime Rock, first weekend in June.

I?m learning stuff about this TR3 race biz all the time. 

Rick McCurdy
Newburgh, NY

> On May 13, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Bill Dentinger <billdentin at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> Good for you, Rick.  
> 
> Just another one of us unstoppable...tenacious Triumph merry masochists...down, but not out!
> 
> I am proud of you.  
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick McCurdy via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, May 13, 2019 4:17 am
> Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
> 
> Some of you may have heard about a New Yorkers? attempt to get to the 
> K Cup last weekend, but here?s the skinny:
> 
> After long weeks of long days, I finished repairing bodywork from when I smacked the wall backwards at the Canadian Vintage Gran Prix at Mosport last June, and the car reassembled (just) in time to depart New York?s Hudson Valley on Sunday morning,  April 28. Of course, the one thing I didn?t have time to do before loading was to get the car running. Since I was planning on passing through Dayton, I called a long time Sunbeam club friend and asked for help. (How tough is it to get a tractor engine to run?!) Doug Jennings, who owned Tiger Auto in Dayton for decades before retiring a few years ago was the perfect choice.
> 
> I arrived at Doug?s around 8:30, had a quick bite of his wife?s (wonderful!) Lasagna, and winched the car into his garage to get the tr3 started. 3 hours later, nothing. Bupkis. Nada. We could not get the car to even cough using starting fluid! New plugs the next morning didn?t matter. The car would. not. start. 
> 
> I left Dayton for home sometime after noon the next day, an unhappy camper. Disappointing as it was, there still is no sense in dragging a dead race car to California and back. So, I went home. 
> 
> There is spark, fuel and (barely)compression. When I got home I took it to another Brit car friend who owns a shop and offered to give it a look. We measured an average 105 lbs for comp (it should have done SOMETHING!) and timing was judged to be correct. What we did not do was a leak down test. I don?t know why we didn?t think of that before removing the head... Where the heck is mine when I need it?!
> 
> Head removal revealed some scoring of the walls, ugly corrosion in the chambers, but nothing blatant. When I crashed last year, apparently the top rad hose popped off the spout and water was introduced into the intake. Who knew!? I hit the wall backwards after rounding turn 10, and the little birdies were flying around the little stars before I shut down the motor and gingerly extricated myself from the car. I didn?t know for 6 more weeks that I had a handful of broken vertebrae (thank you, HANS device..!), now fully repaired with the neurosurgeons approval to race, by the way. I discovered the water evidence when I had to remove the manifolds to weld up the ripped exhaust collector. Inside the ports were rust remains that definitely should not have been there- and the starter didn?t spin the motor until I pulled plugs, squirted WD-40 into the cyls and bumped the started button until it loosened up and spun freely. 
> Next season, when the water is drained for winter, it will get the cylinders lubricated! That is, when I finally get the darn thing to run...
> 
> My big adventure was a bust. Bummed I missed it (a good one, from all the great comments!), bummed I didn?t get to see west coast friends, but still determined to be at Mid-Ohio next year!
> 
> Since I?ve had the head and manifolds off a number of times, it?s time for a new gaskets (both head and manifold). The solid copper gasket worked great, but took me at least three tries to get it to seal after the prev head gasket failed at the ?17 Lime Rock Historics. I ended up using silicone ll. It worked, but it?s messy and unorthodox.
> 
> So, does anyone have a suggestion for replacement gaskets? I?m not trying to be a frontrunner, I just crave reliability at this point- a weekend where I can drive off the trailer, race, and drive back on the trailer with nothing broken or suspect. Just once!
> 
> Down, but not out. Yours truly,
> 
> Rick McCurdy
> Newburgh, NY
> 
> I know... I know, I waited a long time to work on the car, but I was working on restoring a friends big Healey, and that had priority. It?s beautiful, but took much longer than anticipated. Just call me ?Mr. Vertical Learning Curve?!
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 16 12:29:22 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:29:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Mark on Gasoline Alley.
Message-ID: <F074926E-7FE6-455E-96FC-D36EDCCA6D13@gmail.com>

Mark is feeling the love on Gasoline Alley, today.

Mark started out with a business meeting at Dallara, today. 

But our regards to Mike Mehl today, as well. Unfortunately, Mike is missing the Indy 500 for the first time in nearly four decades. 

Our thoughts are with Mike.

Way to go, Mark!

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Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 16 15:30:04 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 16:30:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Posters
Message-ID: <C959FE2B-3CB2-4E22-A9BE-5F95F4DA97AA@gmail.com>

FOT:

Still doing some Kastner Cup Funding.

By Popular Demand.  We ran some more. Only 25 available.

Artwork by Steve Belfer. 

$15 delivered.

Good time to order FOT 3 x 5 Decals. 

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Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From bownes at web9.com  Thu May 16 16:23:40 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 18:23:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR8 engine
In-Reply-To: <001e01d50be1$2d92cc00$88b86400$@rogers.com>
References: <001e01d50be1$2d92cc00$88b86400$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nORaDPv8jQ7dwLU9DowXfCfDtvi8MKAjXwoCNg8PZymRMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I suppose the 1967 F1 Brabham BT19 would qualify as a Triumph
derivative since it used Herald Saloon uprights at the front, but the REPCO
engine is too early to be a Triumph... ;)

But it would have to be a replica since there is only one. :)

Though the formula car chassis hanging in the garage isn't far off of the
Brabham. It uses the right front uprights... But a 300HP V8 through a pair
of rotoflex couplers seems a touch scary. :)




On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 8:16 AM Paul MacDonald <macdonaldp at rogers.com>
wrote:

> Mickey Thomson 1962 Indy 500 with basically the same engine
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Thompson#1962
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> Jack Brabham  in a much modified Repco V8  engine used in F1
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repco
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> *From:* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *robert
> bownes via Fot
> *Sent:* May 16, 2019 12:34 AM
> *To:* Mark J Bradakis
> *Cc:* FOT
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
>
>
>
>
>
> If only someone had ever built one. Closest I can come is an F3 car with a
> Dolomite Sprint motor in it. But it's based on a March 783 chassis. Of
> which 11 were made. :(
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> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:38 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> On 5/14/19 1:11 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
> > Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a
> > triumph based race car....
> >
>
> A formula car with a TR8 motor ....
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri May 17 10:13:03 2019
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 11:13:03 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Heads Up.    Chris Marx Crankshaft Seal
References: <4B3DEB35-FF77-4EF9-BDAD-C1E79EC1E5CE.ref@cs.com>
Message-ID: <4B3DEB35-FF77-4EF9-BDAD-C1E79EC1E5CE@cs.com>

FOT:

Chris just sent us 10 more seal kits for distribution in North America.

Lowest price in our continent.

Gasketinnovations.com

There are some replacement seals available, too.

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From waldoracer at yahoo.com  Sat May 18 11:17:31 2019
From: waldoracer at yahoo.com (Ralf Schreyer)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 17:17:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] race 64 spitfire
References: <561516465.4289653.1558199852628.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <561516465.4289653.1558199852628@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi al, i have a question about fuel delivery, my car as raced (back in 1981) has electric fuel pump (pump appears to be adjustable), fuel cell to pump is 5/16" ID rubber (am still in wheel chair) can't hold hood open it does have SU's, from fuel pump to carbs is small brake line less than 1\8" ID. Was pressure an issue with these carbs so they restricted flow. Would stock metal line front to back have been 3\16" to 1\4" ID (I have to try and get brand off pump) hope pic comes through Thanks Ralf
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From waldoracer at yahoo.com  Sat May 18 11:39:31 2019
From: waldoracer at yahoo.com (Ralf Schreyer)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 17:39:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] race 64 spitfire
References: <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107@mail.yahoo.com>

HI , my computer will not let me shrink pics from my phone when painted in 70's they used lacquer but apparently 1 coat primer 1 coat color, paint is basically flaking off, which will make getting this car to base metal much easier. Thanks Ralf?
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sat May 18 14:22:13 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 13:22:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] race 64 spitfire
In-Reply-To: <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8124AB9A-A893-44A4-94B0-9AC78BE2530A@gmail.com>

Race car paint jobs were never very fancy.

Due to great storage, my 1970 Grabber Blue paint has held up well, showing its proper desert race track sand blast patina...

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Ralf Schreyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> HI , my computer will not let me shrink pics from my phone when painted in 70's they used lacquer but apparently 1 coat primer 1 coat color, paint is basically flaking off, which will make getting this car to base metal much easier. Thanks Ralf 
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sat May 18 14:30:55 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 13:30:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Fuel Supply
Message-ID: <33830928-60AD-4ADE-831C-25832E43892A@gmail.com>

Ralf,

Here is my set up. New cell in a modified original can. 3/8" out of the cell to filter and pump with Push-Lok fittings and hose. 

1/4" on the 'Out' side of the pump to steel tube under the car. Pressure regulator set at 3 PSI in the engine bay just forward of the 2 HS2 carbs.

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Sat May 18 20:16:05 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 21:16:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Videos from Buttonwillow / Kas Cup
Message-ID: <e91e7b75-2756-3bee-72b5-eb8ab61b254c@tonydrews.com>

Kastner Cup race - good racing all race:

https://youtu.be/FGCiTu8YJrk

The next two are interesting for a few laps then get strung out.

Union Jack (all British) race:

https://youtu.be/GZ1hTOoghaU

Group 2 "Flag" race (last race Sunday):

https://youtu.be/nAVJzfND1z8

Regards, Tony


From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon May 20 06:13:46 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 12:13:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
References: <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919@mail.yahoo.com>

I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From TLizzard at msn.com  Mon May 20 10:23:16 2019
From: TLizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 16:23:16 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
In-Reply-To: <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919.ref@mail.yahoo.com>,
 <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR08MB554850C2DF0541AFAD13632FC3060@DM6PR08MB5548.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Might that TR3 have been red on color?

Terry Stetler

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
To: fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon May 20 10:29:59 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 16:29:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
References: <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736@mail.yahoo.com>

 As a matter of fact it was, and now that I'm thinking about it, I recognize the car from somewhere...Glen
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 12:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

#yiv0873678472 #yiv0873678472 -- _filtered #yiv0873678472 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0873678472 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv0873678472 #yiv0873678472 p.yiv0873678472MsoNormal, #yiv0873678472 li.yiv0873678472MsoNormal, #yiv0873678472 div.yiv0873678472MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv0873678472 a:link, #yiv0873678472 span.yiv0873678472MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0873678472 a:visited, #yiv0873678472 span.yiv0873678472MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0873678472 .yiv0873678472MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv0873678472 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv0873678472 div.yiv0873678472WordSection1 {} #yiv0873678472 Might that TR3 have been red on color? ? Terry Stetler ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
To: fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires????I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 20 12:13:16 2019
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 13:13:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
Message-ID: <mailman.4.1558376019.31764.fot@autox.team.net>

AMICI 
I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
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From TLizzard at msn.com  Mon May 20 15:36:38 2019
From: TLizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 21:36:38 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
In-Reply-To: <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736.ref@mail.yahoo.com>,
 <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR08MB554881672651655FFF7A3168C3060@DM6PR08MB5548.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Can?t wait for the after action report.

Terry

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

________________________________
From: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 12:29:59 PM
To: TLizzard at msn.com; fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

As a matter of fact it was, and now that I'm thinking about it, I recognize the car from somewhere...
Glen


-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 12:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

Might that TR3 have been red on color?

Terry Stetler

Sent from Mail<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7C%7C217983bd922a47cfde3f08d6dd406a76%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636939666058399182&sdata=nJxOeGqV0Pi7D7d1kTalNdZLDIBwlbPOaVmgK7zTBGk%3D&reserved=0> for Windows 10

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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
To: fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon May 20 15:45:11 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 21:45:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
References: <759922008.2806068.1558388711995.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <759922008.2806068.1558388711995@mail.yahoo.com>

 Well now that the rumors have started, I expect that the owner/driver will jump in here at some point with his side of the story...Glenps- yeah it was like bringing a knife to a gunfight with those treaded tires ha ha!
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 5:36 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

#yiv1013457441 #yiv1013457441 -- _filtered #yiv1013457441 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1013457441 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv1013457441 #yiv1013457441 p.yiv1013457441MsoNormal, #yiv1013457441 li.yiv1013457441MsoNormal, #yiv1013457441 div.yiv1013457441MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv1013457441 a:link, #yiv1013457441 span.yiv1013457441MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv1013457441 a:visited, #yiv1013457441 span.yiv1013457441MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv1013457441 .yiv1013457441MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv1013457441 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv1013457441 div.yiv1013457441WordSection1 {} #yiv1013457441 Can?t wait for the after action report. ? Terry ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 12:29:59 PM
To: TLizzard at msn.com; fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires????As a matter of fact it was, and now that I'm thinking about it, I recognize the car from somewhere...Glen


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From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 12:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

#yiv1013457441 -- filtered {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}#yiv1013457441 filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv1013457441 p.yiv1013457441MsoNormal, #yiv1013457441 li.yiv1013457441MsoNormal, #yiv1013457441 div.yiv1013457441MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv1013457441 a:link, #yiv1013457441 span.yiv1013457441MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1013457441 a:visited, #yiv1013457441 span.yiv1013457441MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1013457441 .yiv1013457441MsoChpDefault {}#yiv1013457441 filtered {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv1013457441 div.yiv1013457441WordSection1 {}#yiv1013457441 Might that TR3 have been red on color??Terry Stetler?Sent from Mail for Windows 10?From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
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Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires????I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

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From bownes at web9.com  Mon May 20 18:50:42 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 20:50:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
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Many years ago I raced my 64 GP Spit at Lime Rock Park in Connecticut in
the SCCA Production/GT race in the morning, swapped the slicks off of it
over lunch for a set of A008Rs and raced it in the SCCA Vintage class race
in the afternoon.

The Production race was notable because my little 1147 GP Spit was out
there with a GT1 car driven by a well known former TR6 driver. I drew him
aside at the driver's meeting and said "Paul, I'll do my best to stay out
of your way, but with the closing speed you'll have on me, I might get
surprised." He said "Just drive your race kid, I'll worry about staying out
of your way", flashed that famous smile and wandered back to his trailer.
We both won our class, Though I think I was about 4 laps down on him.

iii

On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 8:39 PM fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Well now that the rumors have started, I expect that the owner/driver will
> jump in here at some point with his side of the story...
> Glen
> ps- yeah it was like bringing a knife to a gunfight with those treaded
> tires ha ha!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
> To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 5:36 pm
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
>
> Can?t wait for the after action report.
>
> Terry
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
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> ------------------------------
> *From:* fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 20, 2019 12:29:59 PM
> *To:* TLizzard at msn.com; fot at Autox.Team.Net
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
>
> As a matter of fact it was, and now that I'm thinking about it, I
> recognize the car from somewhere...
> Glen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
> To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 12:23 pm
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
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> Might that TR3 have been red on color?
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> Terry Stetler
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> *Sent:* Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
> *To:* fot at Autox.Team.Net
> *Subject:* [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
>
> I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a
> certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment)
> showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it,
> down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA
> SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
> Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper
> and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the
> races" for our intrepid Vintage race...
>
> Glen
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From billdentin at aol.com  Mon May 20 21:08:36 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 03:08:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
References: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Dennis..,
I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now. ?She?ll need rare parts. ?Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?Bill Dentinger

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 On?Monday, May 20, 2019,?Dennis DeLap via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

AMICI 
I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
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From billdentin at aol.com  Mon May 20 21:08:36 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 03:08:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
References: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312@mail.yahoo.com>

Dennis..,
I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now. ?She?ll need rare parts. ?Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?Bill Dentinger

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 On?Monday, May 20, 2019,?Dennis DeLap via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

AMICI 
I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
Dennis _______________________________________________
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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue May 21 05:02:42 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 07:02:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
In-Reply-To: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312@mail.yahoo.com>
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Try Midnight Auto in Newton NJ. He?s got a racing Cortina tub for sale. midnightautopete at ptd.net


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2019, at 11:08 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Dennis..,
> 
> I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now.  She?ll need rare parts.  Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> 
> On Monday, May 20, 2019, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> AMICI 
> I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
> Thanks
> Dennis
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From tredmond826 at gmail.com  Tue May 21 05:24:12 2019
From: tredmond826 at gmail.com (Todd Redmond)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 07:24:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
In-Reply-To: <360A5480-7FE5-4942-8DBF-5AD2FEB7B83F@aol.com>
References: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Yes he does! 
He has my TR3 now working on the roll-cage.  I was there this weekend and took this pick. 

Thanks
Todd Redmond

> On May 21, 2019, at 7:02 AM, Phil Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Try Midnight Auto in Newton NJ. He?s got a racing Cortina tub for sale. midnightautopete at ptd.net
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2019, at 11:08 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Dennis..,
>> 
>> I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now.  She?ll need rare parts.  Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?
>> Bill Dentinger
>> 
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>> 
>> On Monday, May 20, 2019, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> AMICI 
>> I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
>> Thanks
>> Dennis
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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue May 21 08:27:04 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 10:27:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
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?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Todd Redmond via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes he does! 
> He has my TR3 now working on the roll-cage.  I was there this weekend and took this pick. 
> 
> Thanks
> Todd Redmond
> 
>> On May 21, 2019, at 7:02 AM, Phil Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Try Midnight Auto in Newton NJ. He?s got a racing Cortina tub for sale. midnightautopete at ptd.net
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2019, at 11:08 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dennis..,
>>> 
>>> I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now.  She?ll need rare parts.  Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?
>>> Bill Dentinger
>>> 
>>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>>> 
>>> On Monday, May 20, 2019, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> AMICI 
>>> I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
>>> Thanks
>>> Dennis
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Tue May 21 08:43:12 2019
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 10:43:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
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Dennis,


I just spoke with Pete. He does have a Cortina for sale.? Actually its a 
two tubs for one sale.


He said give him a call 973.383.8859.


I took this picture this past Sunday.? He is working on the Rollcage on 
my TR3.


Good Luck!
Todd



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AMICI
I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone 
know of one?
Thanks
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Tue May 21 10:27:33 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 09:27:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Herald
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Who was looking for a Herald?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Triumph-Herald/173903013559

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From sjanzen at me.com  Tue May 21 20:31:47 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 22:31:47 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
Message-ID: <BA0DE2A9-943F-425E-9A33-65B505252A5C@me.com>

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.  
After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:

1 - 200 and 2%
2- 180 and 6%
3 - 180 and 9%
4 - 195 and 0%
5 - 190 and 0%
6 - 185 and 0%

Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher. 
There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speed
What do i have - failing rings?  
Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated.

Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke
Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others 
Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one

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From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be  Wed May 22 02:14:01 2019
From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 10:14:01 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
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If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter, then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad news. 
Marcel 


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Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Verzonden: Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47 
Onderwerp: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause? 

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing. 
After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer. 
Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole. 
Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test. Cold engine results: 

1 - 200 and 2% 
2- 180 and 6% 
3 - 180 and 9% 
4 - 195 and 0% 
5 - 190 and 0% 
6 - 185 and 0% 

Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero. So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher. 
There was no excess oil until the last session. Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM. 
EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speed 
What do i have - failing rings? 
Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated. 

Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember. 
TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar 
GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke 
Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others 
Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one 

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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Wed May 22 04:51:00 2019
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 10:51:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
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 Hi,
First off - I'd only to the leakdown test with the engine hot. Cold numbers don't really count. The numbers that you give look pretty good from a leakdown perspective. As a point of reference, with >10% leakdown into the sump in a couple of cylinders, you will see oil drip out of the strangest places (like around the nuts holding the valve cover down and the filler cap to which you refer.) So, either your gauge is lying or you need to verify your numbers with the engine at operating temps (and see if the numbers change). If you have access to another gauge, that might help figure out if anything is wrong. Oh, and is there any oil fouling on the plugs? Blow by should also introduce some oil into the cylinders when you lift off...

I think Marcel's suggestion has merit.
Let us know if you find anything.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 4:14:19 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter, then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad? news.Marcel
Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47
Onderwerp: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing. ?After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test. ?Cold engine results:
1 - 200 and 2%2- 180 and 6%3 - 180 and 9%4 - 195 and 0%5 - 190 and 0%6 - 185 and 0%
Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero. ?So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.?There was no excess oil until the last session. ?Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speedWhat do i have - failing rings? ?Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated.
Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John StyduharGT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case brokeSpitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others?Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
Scott Janzen

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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Wed May 22 05:05:33 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 07:05:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
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If you have an accusump, check if the valve is operating properly.  Maybe
the valve was closed accidentally during running and the engine oil level
was excessive.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> First off - I'd only to the leakdown test with the engine hot. Cold
> numbers don't really count. The numbers that you give look pretty good from
> a leakdown perspective. As a point of reference, with >10% leakdown into
> the sump in a couple of cylinders, you will see oil drip out of the
> strangest places (like around the nuts holding the valve cover down and the
> filler cap to which you refer.) So, either your gauge is lying or you need
> to verify your numbers with the engine at operating temps (and see if the
> numbers change). If you have access to another gauge, that might help
> figure out if anything is wrong. Oh, and is there any oil fouling on the
> plugs? Blow by should also introduce some oil into the cylinders when you
> lift off...
>
> I think Marcel's suggestion has merit.
>
> Let us know if you find anything.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
>
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 4:14:19 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots
> of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially
> when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter,
> then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow
> by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad  news.
> Marcel
>
> ------------------------------
> *Van: *"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Aan: *"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Verzonden: *Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47
> *Onderwerp: *[Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
>
> I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and
> lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
> After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the
> trailer.
> Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil
> blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
> Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:
>
> 1 - 200 and 2%
> 2- 180 and 6%
> 3 - 180 and 9%
> 4 - 195 and 0%
> 5 - 190 and 0%
> 6 - 185 and 0%
>
> Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite
> right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last
> three is slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three
> is higher.
> There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50
> hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
> EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored
> cylinders at top speed
> What do i have - failing rings?
> Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing
> apart would be appreciated.
>
> Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
> TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
> GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke
> Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
> Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
>
> Scott Janzen
>
>
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From joeg at neb.rr.com  Wed May 22 09:24:04 2019
From: joeg at neb.rr.com (Joe Guinan)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 10:24:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
Message-ID: <009b01d510b2$658dc2b0$30a94810$@neb.rr.com>

John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his Vitesse
racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com

May I have a second?

Joe Guinan
Fremont, Nebraska

This note is from John...
I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
to the Great Garage in the Sky.   Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take best
advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
Ferrari.


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From dbm.spitfire at gmail.com  Wed May 22 09:34:16 2019
From: dbm.spitfire at gmail.com (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:34:16 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
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Seconded. Welcome John.

On Wed, May 22, 2019, 11:25 AM Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
> Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
> can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his
> Vitesse
> racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
> John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com
>
> May I have a second?
>
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, Nebraska
>
> This note is from John...
> I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
> to the Great Garage in the Sky.   Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
> SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
> grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
> I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
> Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
> completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
> building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take
> best
> advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
> Ferrari.
>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Wed May 22 09:49:33 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:49:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause? Update.
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Haven?t figured out the problem yet, but I thought this explanation from Longacre on how a leakdown gauge works might interest you all.

"The leak down gauge is simply a 100 psi gauge that reads backwards from a tire pressure gauge. Basically if you have 100 psi going to your cylinder and it doesn?t leak down at all then it will show you 0 leak down and/or 100 psi if it was a normal pressure gauge. If your regulator is set higher then 100 then the leakdown gauge will go below zero because its showing a higher pressure."

So, one of my gauges is no longer reading correctly, as I?m getting a higher pressure on the cylinder than on the supply, on some cylinders.  Have to swap them out to figure out which, and then I?ll be able to determine how much leakdown there really is.  

More to follow this weekend!

On May 22, 2019, at 7:05 AM, John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com> wrote:

If you have an accusump, check if the valve is operating properly.  Maybe the valve was closed accidentally during running and the engine oil level was excessive.  

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hi,

First off - I'd only to the leakdown test with the engine hot. Cold numbers don't really count. The numbers that you give look pretty good from a leakdown perspective. As a point of reference, with >10% leakdown into the sump in a couple of cylinders, you will see oil drip out of the strangest places (like around the nuts holding the valve cover down and the filler cap to which you refer.) So, either your gauge is lying or you need to verify your numbers with the engine at operating temps (and see if the numbers change). If you have access to another gauge, that might help figure out if anything is wrong. Oh, and is there any oil fouling on the plugs? Blow by should also introduce some oil into the cylinders when you lift off...

I think Marcel's suggestion has merit.

Let us know if you find anything.

Regards,
Bob Lang

On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 4:14:19 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter, then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad  news.
Marcel

Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Verzonden: Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47
Onderwerp: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.  
After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:

1 - 200 and 2%
2- 180 and 6%
3 - 180 and 9%
4 - 195 and 0%
5 - 190 and 0%
6 - 185 and 0%

Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher. 
There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speed
What do i have - failing rings?  
Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated.

Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke
Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others 
Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one

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From billdentin at aol.com  Wed May 22 09:50:38 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 15:50:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
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Amici...
SECOND!
I love the graphics on John Davies' Old Blue.
And of course, the FOT already has one Old Blue, and there was also Uncle Jack's New Blue.
Room for all.
Bill Dentinger


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To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: john.r.davies <john.r.davies at btinternet.com>
Sent: Wed, May 22, 2019 8:24 am
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer

John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his Vitesse
racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com

May I have a second?

Joe Guinan
Fremont, Nebraska

This note is from John...
I race a Vitesse in the UK.? ? It's my third, the previous two having gone
to the Great Garage in the Sky.? Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
SofS? (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
grandfathers hat).? ? This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.? ? Currently
building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take best
advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.? And looking for a job at
Ferrari.


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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed May 22 10:02:42 2019
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 09:02:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR3 spins at Buttonwillow
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Hey gang,

I thought I'd share this video of my first spin in my TR3. It seems that getting the tires on the painted concrete while under full throttle is not conducive to forward movement.

I was lucky to get away with this one unscathed.  As I start to spin I look to my left to see Walt coming toward my door with his TR6, so I hit the throttle to get out of his way completing a 360.  Also, the only concrete wall at the track was close by too.  I gave a no harm done woohoo when I came to a stop.

I catch another slide while passing a Mini around the 7 minute mark. 

Dave H.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxKBDyA_cEU&t=12s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxKBDyA_cEU&t=12s
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed May 22 10:15:50 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:15:50 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
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Dr. Davies,

Would you be interested in shipping your Vitesse to Mid-Ohio for the 2020 Kastner Cup in June? We have one Triumph being air shipped, and perhaps three other Triumphs being shipped by water. In 2002 we had EIGHT Triumphs from the U.K.

We would be pleased if you considered this.

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 22, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Amici...
> 
> SECOND!
> 
> I love the graphics on John Davies' Old Blue.
> 
> And of course, the FOT already has one Old Blue, and there was also Uncle Jack's New Blue.
> 
> Room for all.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Cc: john.r.davies <john.r.davies at btinternet.com>
> Sent: Wed, May 22, 2019 8:24 am
> Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
> 
> John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
> Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
> can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his Vitesse
> racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
> John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com
> 
> May I have a second?
> 
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, Nebraska
> 
> This note is from John...
> I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
> to the Great Garage in the Sky.  Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
> SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
> grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
> I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
> Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
> completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
> building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take best
> advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
> Ferrari.
> 
> 
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed May 22 10:45:14 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:45:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
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Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 22, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Amici...
> 
> SECOND!
> 
> I love the graphics on John Davies' Old Blue.
> 
> And of course, the FOT already has one Old Blue, and there was also Uncle Jack's New Blue.
> 
> Room for all.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Cc: john.r.davies <john.r.davies at btinternet.com>
> Sent: Wed, May 22, 2019 8:24 am
> Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
> 
> John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
> Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
> can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his Vitesse
> racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
> John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com
> 
> May I have a second?
> 
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, Nebraska
> 
> This note is from John...
> I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
> to the Great Garage in the Sky.  Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
> SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
> grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
> I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
> Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
> completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
> building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take best
> advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
> Ferrari.
> 
> 
> ---
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed May 22 13:47:58 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 19:47:58 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause? Update.
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That?s a great tip!!  Change your regulator setting and you?ll have no leakdown!  Problem solved.  You?re welcome.  :-)

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 10:50 AM
To: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause? Update.

Haven?t figured out the problem yet, but I thought this explanation from Longacre on how a leakdown gauge works might interest you all.

"The leak down gauge is simply a 100 psi gauge that reads backwards from a tire pressure gauge. Basically if you have 100 psi going to your cylinder and it doesn?t leak down at all then it will show you 0 leak down and/or 100 psi if it was a normal pressure gauge. If your regulator is set higher then 100 then the leakdown gauge will go below zero because its showing a higher pressure."

So, one of my gauges is no longer reading correctly, as I?m getting a higher pressure on the cylinder than on the supply, on some cylinders.  Have to swap them out to figure out which, and then I?ll be able to determine how much leakdown there really is.

More to follow this weekend!

On May 22, 2019, at 7:05 AM, John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com<mailto:johnstydo at gmail.com>> wrote:

If you have an accusump, check if the valve is operating properly.  Maybe the valve was closed accidentally during running and the engine oil level was excessive.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hi,

First off - I'd only to the leakdown test with the engine hot. Cold numbers don't really count. The numbers that you give look pretty good from a leakdown perspective. As a point of reference, with >10% leakdown into the sump in a couple of cylinders, you will see oil drip out of the strangest places (like around the nuts holding the valve cover down and the filler cap to which you refer.) So, either your gauge is lying or you need to verify your numbers with the engine at operating temps (and see if the numbers change). If you have access to another gauge, that might help figure out if anything is wrong. Oh, and is there any oil fouling on the plugs? Blow by should also introduce some oil into the cylinders when you lift off...

I think Marcel's suggestion has merit.

Let us know if you find anything.

Regards,
Bob Lang

On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 4:14:19 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter, then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad  news.
Marcel

________________________________
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Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Verzonden: Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47
Onderwerp: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:

1 - 200 and 2%
2- 180 and 6%
3 - 180 and 9%
4 - 195 and 0%
5 - 190 and 0%
6 - 185 and 0%

Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.
There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speed
What do i have - failing rings?
Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated.

Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke
Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one

Scott Janzen


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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed May 22 15:30:44 2019
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 16:30:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Historically Significant Triumph Race Cars. Display at The
 Glen. Two Triumphs needed.
Message-ID: <B502AAAC-FAF8-43FC-82D9-0A0973A65696@cs.com>

FOT:

We are looking for two candidates for display.

They would be on display in the IMRRC Facility at Watkins Glen for at least the duration of the SVRA event in September 2019.

The candidate Cars could not do double duty as a race entry, but COULD be released for the re-enactment on Friday.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711



From vfracing at aol.com  Wed May 22 20:44:14 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 22:44:14 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Historically Significant Triumph Race Cars. Display at
 The Glen. Two Triumphs needed.
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Tim Sudard?s Ex Daytona TR 3?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 22, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> FOT:
> 
> We are looking for two candidates for display.
> 
> They would be on display in the IMRRC Facility at Watkins Glen for at least the duration of the SVRA event in September 2019.
> 
> The candidate Cars could not do double duty as a race entry, but COULD be released for the re-enactment on Friday.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
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From billdentin at aol.com  Wed May 22 20:55:31 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 02:55:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Historically Significant Triumph Race Cars. Display at
 The Glen. Two Triumphs needed.
References: <1641135140.3857164.1558580131839.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1641135140.3857164.1558580131839@mail.yahoo.com>

Don?t be silly. ?
All TRIUMPHS are significant!
Bill Dentinger

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
 On?Wednesday, May 22, 2019,?Phil Gott via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Tim Sudard?s Ex Daytona TR 3?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 22, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> FOT:
> 
> We are looking for two candidates for display.
> 
> They would be on display in the IMRRC Facility at Watkins Glen for at least the duration of the SVRA event in September 2019.
> 
> The candidate Cars could not do double duty as a race entry, but COULD be released for the re-enactment on Friday.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:? 319.464.4711
> 
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From billdentin at aol.com  Wed May 22 20:55:31 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 02:55:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Historically Significant Triumph Race Cars. Display at
 The Glen. Two Triumphs needed.
References: <1641135140.3857164.1558580131839.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1641135140.3857164.1558580131839@mail.yahoo.com>

Don?t be silly. ?
All TRIUMPHS are significant!
Bill Dentinger

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
 On?Wednesday, May 22, 2019,?Phil Gott via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Tim Sudard?s Ex Daytona TR 3?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 22, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> FOT:
> 
> We are looking for two candidates for display.
> 
> They would be on display in the IMRRC Facility at Watkins Glen for at least the duration of the SVRA event in September 2019.
> 
> The candidate Cars could not do double duty as a race entry, but COULD be released for the re-enactment on Friday.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:? 319.464.4711
> 
> 
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu May 23 02:24:44 2019
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 04:24:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
In-Reply-To: <009b01d510b2$658dc2b0$30a94810$@neb.rr.com>
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I'll third him, John has been a great help on the Triumph forum and he has
the coolest avatar.

Mike h


On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
> Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
> can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his
> Vitesse
> racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
> John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com
>
> May I have a second?
>
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, Nebraska
>
> This note is from John...
> I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
> to the Great Garage in the Sky.   Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
> SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
> grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
> I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
> Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
> completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
> building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take
> best
> advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
> Ferrari.
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Thu May 23 02:33:24 2019
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (JOHN DAVIES)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:33:24 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
Message-ID: <412421.69811.1558600404333.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>

I am honoured to be nominated to join the Friends of Triumph!
My thanks to all those who put me forward and supported me.
It may be that my current car, SofS, is more historic than I am - I built my previous two race Vitesses, Old Blue from a standard Vitesse, and Silverback from a Herald 13/60 Estate.      SofS was first registered as a road car in 1970, and was modified for racing in about 1980, I don't know who by, but it was raced by Mike "Barney Rubble" Barnes in the UK TSSC series.     It then was owned by Mark Plausin and worked on by John Sadler of "Trioomph", who had his own Vitesse and raced together as a team.      I raced my first, Old Blue Vitesse against them, and I enclose pictures of my car now and then from the 90s, when John was driving it.      Old Blue went to the Great Garage in the Sky in an accident, and I elected to build Silverback as an experiment in aerodynamics.  Inspired by the Volvo estates then racing in the British Touring Car Championship, I went further and built it rear-radiatored, with a front spoiler from Old Blue and side skirts, to minimise undercar airflow.     I can't claim any down force, but I think we had less lift!
Wiped out on the N?rburgring by a Group 2 Porsche, two weeks later I found SofS on sale from the back of Mark Plausin's barn.    It was meant to be mine!    But twelve years of storage,  some ill-advised suspension and engine building had taken their toll, and I transplanted the engine, front and rear suspension from Silverback into it, and named it Son of Silverback, SofS, as it had so many of it's father's parts.      Mark had a GRP coupe roof on it, as had Old Blue because of the Regs of one series we ran in, and after the glasshouse of the estate I found that cramped and pokey.   So I fitted the roof from Old Blue and SofS has its grandfather's hat on as well!
Since then, we've competed in the Classic Sports Car Club Swinging 60s (!) series, been to Le Mans (to visit the Classic) and Spa (to race).   Currently working on a new 2.5L engine to complement the Lucas Pi that is fitted.
Some pics enclosed, of SofS today, and long ago next to Old Blue.   And for completeness, of Silverback in it's pomp.
Best wishes, and looking forward to news of US Triumph racing!
JOhn
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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu May 23 04:15:20 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 06:15:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
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Welcome John!
Phil Gott
65 TR4A

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2019, at 4:33 AM, JOHN DAVIES via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I am honoured to be nominated to join the Friends of Triumph!
> My thanks to all those who put me forward and supported me.
> 
> It may be that my current car, SofS, is more historic than I am - I built my previous two race Vitesses, Old Blue from a standard Vitesse, and Silverback from a Herald 13/60 Estate.      SofS was first registered as a road car in 1970, and was modified for racing in about 1980, I don't know who by, but it was raced by Mike "Barney Rubble" Barnes in the UK TSSC series.     It then was owned by Mark Plausin and worked on by John Sadler of "Trioomph", who had his own Vitesse and raced together as a team.      I raced my first, Old Blue Vitesse against them, and I enclose pictures of my car now and then from the 90s, when John was driving it.      Old Blue went to the Great Garage in the Sky in an accident, and I elected to build Silverback as an experiment in aerodynamics.  Inspired by the Volvo estates then racing in the British Touring Car Championship, I went further and built it rear-radiatored, with a front spoiler from Old Blue and side skirts, to minimise undercar airflow.     I can't claim any down force, but I think we had less lift!
> 
> Wiped out on the N?rburgring by a Group 2 Porsche, two weeks later I found SofS on sale from the back of Mark Plausin's barn.    It was meant to be mine!    But twelve years of storage,  some ill-advised suspension and engine building had taken their toll, and I transplanted the engine, front and rear suspension from Silverback into it, and named it Son of Silverback, SofS, as it had so many of it's father's parts.      Mark had a GRP coupe roof on it, as had Old Blue because of the Regs of one series we ran in, and after the glasshouse of the estate I found that cramped and pokey.   So I fitted the roof from Old Blue and SofS has its grandfather's hat on as well!
> 
> Since then, we've competed in the Classic Sports Car Club Swinging 60s (!) series, been to Le Mans (to visit the Classic) and Spa (to race).   Currently working on a new 2.5L engine to complement the Lucas Pi that is fitted.
> 
> Some pics enclosed, of SofS today, and long ago next to Old Blue.   And for completeness, of Silverback in it's pomp.
> 
> Best wishes, and looking forward to news of US Triumph racing!
> 
> JOhn
> <Nurburgring 2007 019.jpg>
> <Green Vitesse with John Sadler, Pembrey 1994.jpg>
> <Bo'ness 2018.jpg>
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From grandwazoo at earthlink.net  Thu May 23 07:12:34 2019
From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:12:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
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From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Thu May 23 07:22:23 2019
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (DPPI - Mark Craig)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 13:22:23 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
In-Reply-To: <405404905.1250.1558617154499@wamui-megara.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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Mike,

Hey I know you had a good time, and you finished, and you checked off a bucket list item.
Not so bad from my perspective.
Don?t show my grammar to Sandy OK??

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Jackson via Fot
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 8:13 AM
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

Yes, it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vintage TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=0  And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.

I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.

It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3 (thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from being fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru registration and tech with not a flinch.

The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) would have me black flagged.  They did not.

Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and on and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vintage race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.

But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like to achieve.

Mike
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From rikrock at live.com  Thu May 23 07:27:50 2019
From: rikrock at live.com (Rich rock)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 13:27:50 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Mike Jackson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:12:34 AM
To: fubog1; fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

Yes, it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vintage TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=0  And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.

I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.

It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3 (thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from being fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru registration and tech with not a flinch.

The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) would have me black flagged.  They did not.

Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and on and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vintage race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.

But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like to achieve.

Mike
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu May 23 07:31:20 2019
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:31:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
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References: <405404905.1250.1558617154499@wamui-megara.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <0F972664352D4733845725480CAFE438@VlackTK121647>

Bill Emory is smiling down on you Mike. For those of you who don?t know who Bill Emory is / was; I?ll tell you a bit about him. He was a member of the Steel Cities SCCA and raced a TR3 for more than 40 years mostly at Nelson Ledges in Ohio but at other regional tracks as well. I first met Bill in 1969 while crewing for a friend who raced a TR4. There were parts on his car from Donna Mae Mimms pink TR3 which I believe Tim at Grassroots has as well as Bill?s TR3. Somewhere there is an article about Bill in one of the Steel Cities newsletters who at one point honored him for his racing legend. Maybe someone has a link to that article. So Mike good for you to honor those who went before you, Bill was one of many TR3 SCCA racers.

From: Mike Jackson via Fot 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:12 AM
To: fubog1 ; fot at Autox.Team.Net 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

Yes, it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vintage TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=0  And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.

I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.

It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3 (thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from being fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru registration and tech with not a flinch.

The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) would have me black flagged.  They did not.

Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and on and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vintage race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.

But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like to achieve.  

Mike
  Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires??? 


  I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
  Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...



  Glen



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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Thu May 23 08:09:10 2019
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (JOHN DAVIES)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 15:09:10 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
Message-ID: <4472901.397421.1558620550821.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>

What?    You have to use slicks for your production/modded car racing?    Just the opposite here in the UK - club racing, unless single seaters, uses treaded tyres, often Yokohamas with medium or soft tread.
Each to their own.  
What are the regs for the Kastner Trophy?
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>From : fot at autox.team.net
Date : 23/05/2019 - 14:31 (GMTST)
To : grandwazoo at earthlink.net, fubog1 at aol.com, fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject : Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
Bill Emory is smiling down on you Mike. For those of you who don?t know who 
Bill Emory is / was; I?ll tell you a bit about him. He was a member of the Steel 
Cities SCCA and raced a TR3 for more than 40 years mostly at Nelson Ledges in 
Ohio but at other regional tracks as well. I first met Bill in 1969 while 
crewing for a friend who raced a TR4. There were parts on his car from Donna Mae 
Mimms pink TR3 which I believe Tim at Grassroots has as well as Bill?s TR3. 
Somewhere there is an article about Bill in one of the Steel Cities newsletters 
who at one point honored him for his racing legend. Maybe someone has a link to 
that article. So Mike good for you to honor those who went before you, Bill was 
one of many TR3 SCCA racers.
From: Mike 
Jackson via Fot 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:12 AM
To: fubog1 ; fot at Autox.Team.Net 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded 
tires???
Yes, 
it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vintage 
TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International 
Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=0  
And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.
I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those 
years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the 
requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired 
from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.
It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3 
(thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most 
interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event 
was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the 
perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of 
Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from being 
fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru 
registration and tech with not a flinch.
The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you 
can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my 
friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first 
couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) 
would have me black flagged.  They did not.
Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those 
flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and on 
and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my 
lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vintage 
race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running 
last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year 
friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.
But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like 
to achieve.  
Mike
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires??? 
  
  
  
I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt 
  is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible 
  embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded 
  tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it 
  was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
  
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of 
  white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to 
  the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...
  
  
Glen
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu May 23 10:12:51 2019
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 18:12:51 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR8 IMSA GTO is going to Brands Hatch
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Hi Guys,

 

the next seasons race is round the corner.

Tomorrow morning I leave for Brands Hatch.

We are racing on the GP version, the big track.

 

Have been a while that I was in England.

Thought it would be wise to go there before Britain sets sail to America and leaving the EU.

 

Cheers

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From bschirano at yahoo.com  Thu May 23 20:23:16 2019
From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 02:23:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Hey Friends
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
Normal / Correct??
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

ThanksBrian
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From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be  Fri May 24 04:07:36 2019
From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:07:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Brian, you are right, it's better to correct this : the spring (fingers) are working in a wrong range and it's possible the disc won't disengage and the clutch will fail after some time. When mounting and tightening the pressure plate, the fingers should move inward no more than 2 or 3mm. 
You can correct this by putting washers between the six feet of the PP and the flywheel. These washers ought to be hard steel : shims, not common mild steel washers. 
Marcel 


Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 04:23:16 
Onderwerp: [Fot] laycock clutch question 

Hey Friends 

just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 

Normal / Correct? 

am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please 

Thanks 
Brian 

26A GT6+ 
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585-305-0349 Cell 
BSchirano at yahoo.com 

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From vfracing at aol.com  Fri May 24 04:19:17 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 06:19:17 -0400
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
In-Reply-To: <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952@mail.yahoo.com>
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Brian;
All perfectly normal.
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
Enjoy your new clutch!
Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hey Friends
> 
> just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 
> 
> Normal / Correct? 
> 
> am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please
> 
> Thanks
> Brian
> 
> 26A GT6+
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349 Cell 
> BSchirano at yahoo.com
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From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be  Fri May 24 05:25:55 2019
From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 13:25:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather. 
Marcel. 

Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com> 
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17 
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question 

Brian; 
All perfectly normal. 
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat. 
Enjoy your new clutch! 
Phil Gott 

Sent from my iPhone 

On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: 




Hey Friends 

just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 

Normal / Correct? 

am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please 

Thanks 
Brian 

26A GT6+ 
Brian Schirano 
585-305-0349 Cell 
[ mailto:BSchirano at yahoo.com | BSchirano at yahoo.com ] 



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From bschirano at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 05:30:36 2019
From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:30:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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References: <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I suppose it depressed about three mm. The previous PP had a more distinctive cone shape before and after, but it's been three years since I had to R & R the trans, so memory not too clear.
Will have to do a test as best I can?
ThanksBrian
26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
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    On Friday, May 24, 2019, 7:26:00 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.Marcel.Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
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Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Brian;All perfectly normal.Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.Enjoy your new clutch!Phil Gott

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On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hey Friends
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
Normal / Correct??
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

ThanksBrian
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585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com


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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 24 05:56:23 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:56:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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 If you're using a stock thickness disc, and the PP is to spec, you should be fine.If you use a thicker disc, the PP has to be shimmed accordingly, because the geometry is changed and the over-center/release point will be off.HTH
Glen
 
 
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Sent: Thu, May 23, 2019 10:24 pm
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Hey Friends
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
Normal / Correct??
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

ThanksBrian
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From vfracing at aol.com  Fri May 24 06:31:48 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 08:31:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Marcel, Brian;
I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.
Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
Hope this clears up any confusion.
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote:
> 
> 
> So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
> Marcel.
> Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
> Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
> 
> Brian;
> All perfectly normal.
> Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
> Enjoy your new clutch!
> Phil Gott
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hey Friends
> 
> just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 
> 
> Normal / Correct? 
> 
> am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please
> 
> Thanks
> Brian
> 
> 26A GT6+
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349 Cell 
> BSchirano at yahoo.com
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri May 24 06:56:15 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:56:15 +0000
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I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.  I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.  Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.  Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making?

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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Marcel, Brian;
I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.
Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
Hope this clears up any confusion.
Phil
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On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be<mailto:van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be> wrote:

So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
Marcel.
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Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Brian;
All perfectly normal.
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
Enjoy your new clutch!
Phil Gott
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On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hey Friends

just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.

Normal / Correct?

am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

Thanks
Brian

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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri May 24 07:47:37 2019
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 13:47:37 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Clutches
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While we are on the subject of clutches. I picked up a new to me used Quartermaster 7.25 single disc clutch setup on a Tilton flywheel for my Spitfire.  I haven't found any installation info on line for these. The face of the fingers of the pressure plate is about 3/8 forward compared to a stock setup so I'm guessing I will need to advance the throw out bearing accordingly to compensate. Anything special I need to know about using these?

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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 24 08:36:14 2019
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 14:36:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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 To physically test the action of the clutch, you can set them up on a flywheel sitting on a chassis scale pad, in a press, and measure the load as you pump it up.When it gets to the release point the pressure will be max and then drop off quickly as the plate overcenters.(You can slip a feeler gauge in there to tell the exact release point.)
The thickness of the disc directly affects the geometry that the PP has to work within by design.If the disc is too thin, there will be weak clamping force and it'll slip, and it will take a "long" pedal to release.If too thick, the release will be too high and it will probably slip under load.Generally if I use a thicker disc, I shim the difference between it and a stock disc, and check it in the press if any question.Glen
 
 
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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question  ? Marcel, Brian; I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible. Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP. Hope this clears up any confusion. Phil Sent from my iPhone 
On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote: 
 ? So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather. Marcel. Van:"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
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Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question  ? Brian; All perfectly normal. Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat. Enjoy your new clutch! Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone 
On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
Hey Friends  ? just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?  ? Normal / Correct??  ? am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please  ? Thanks Brian  ? 26A GT6+ Brian Schirano
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From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be  Fri May 24 08:48:40 2019
From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:48:40 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Strongest solution is when the area where the feet are located are a bit lower than the friction area of the flywheel : then the PP is strongly located and eventually the shims should be trimmed . When the flywheel is entirily flush, the location of the PP is less secure. 
If hard steel shims are used, I think this will not be a weak spot? 
Marcel. 

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Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] laycock clutch question 



I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate. I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers. Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix. Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making? 



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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question 




Marcel, Brian; 


I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible. 


Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP. 


Hope this clears up any confusion. 


Phil 


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On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, [ mailto:van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be | van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be ] wrote: 








So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather. 


Marcel. 



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Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17 
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question 





Brian; 


All perfectly normal. 


Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat. 


Enjoy your new clutch! 


Phil Gott 


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Hey Friends 





just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 





Normal / Correct? 





am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please 





Thanks 


Brian 





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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Fri May 24 09:13:18 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:13:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Most good flywheels have locating dowels for the PP as added shear
strength.

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 10:50 AM van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

>
> Strongest solution is when the area where the feet are located are a bit
> lower than the friction area of the flywheel : then the PP is strongly
> located and eventually the shims should be trimmed . When the flywheel is
> entirily flush, the location of the PP is less secure.
> If hard steel shims are used, I think this will not be a weak spot?
> Marcel.
> ------------------------------
> *Van: *"Scott Barr" <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
> *Aan: *"Phil Gott" <vfracing at aol.com>, "van mulders marcel" <
> van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be>, "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Verzonden: *Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 14:56:15
> *Onderwerp: *RE: [Fot] laycock clutch question
>
> I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.  I?ve
> done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.  Seemed to
> work fine, but that was a seat of the pants
> gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.  Anyone think
> that solution is a disaster in the making?
>
>
>
> Scott (B.)
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Phil Gott via Fot
> *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
> *To:* van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be
> *Cc:* fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
>
>
>
> Marcel, Brian;
>
> I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch
> disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are
> incompatible.
>
> Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
>
> Hope this clears up any confusion.
>
> Phil
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote:
>
>
>
> So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it
> still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not
> correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are
> moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not
> correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
>
> Marcel.
> ------------------------------
>
> *Van: *"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Aan: *"Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
> *Cc: *"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Verzonden: *Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
> *Onderwerp: *Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
>
>
>
> Brian;
>
> All perfectly normal.
>
> Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.?
> If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If
> the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face
> should be flat.
>
> Enjoy your new clutch!
>
> Phil Gott
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hey Friends
>
>
>
> just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As
> I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer
> peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the
> clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me
> uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.
>
>
>
> Normal / Correct?
>
>
>
> am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> 26A GT6+
>
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349 Cell
> BSchirano at yahoo.com
>
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 24 09:30:05 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:30:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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 The flywheel has to have locating dowels to maintain concentricity with the clutch housing.The dowels don't normally get any shear load on them, they aren't drive-dogs, the bolt clamping force holds it all in place and clamped down tight.Yes hard shims, soft can crush down and lose bolt torque after awhile.
If the PP loosens up, the locating dowels won't do much to keep it from coming apart...
Glen
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: Van Mulders Marcel <van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 11:13 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Most good flywheels have locating dowels for the PP as added shear strength.? ??
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 10:50 AM van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Strongest solution is when the area where the feet are located are a bit lower than the friction area of the flywheel : then the PP is strongly located and eventually the shims should be trimmed . When the flywheel is entirily flush, the location of the PP is less secure.If hard steel shims are used, I think this will not be a weak spot?Marcel.Van: "Scott Barr" <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Aan: "Phil Gott" <vfracing at aol.com>, "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be>, "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 14:56:15
Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] laycock clutch question

I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.? I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.? Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.? Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making??Scott (B.)?From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
To: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question?Marcel, Brian;I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.Hope this clears up any confusion.PhilSent from my iPhone
On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote:
?So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.Marcel.Van:"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question?Brian;All perfectly normal.Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.Enjoy your new clutch!Phil GottSent from my iPhone
On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
Hey Friends?just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.??Normal / Correct???am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please?ThanksBrian?26A GT6+Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com

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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri May 24 09:42:57 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:42:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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References: <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I?m trying to think of a time when I was at this stage of putting the car back together and it HADN?T reached a ?moment of desperation?  :-)

With my Spit, I raced a pretty heavy schedule.  Running with both VSCDA and Midwestern Council, I could do 10-15 races a year back in the day.  So I was almost CONSTANTLY in thrash mode between April and November.  Which might explain some of my more interesting mechanical failures.

Scott (B.)

From: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 10:24 AM
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts.

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.  I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.  Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.  Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making?

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
To: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be<mailto:van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Marcel, Brian;
I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.
Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
Hope this clears up any confusion.
Phil
Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be<mailto:van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be> wrote:

So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
Marcel.
________________________________
Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com<mailto:bschirano at yahoo.com>>
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Brian;
All perfectly normal.
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
Enjoy your new clutch!
Phil Gott
Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hey Friends

just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.

Normal / Correct?

am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

Thanks
Brian

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From bschirano at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 10:02:07 2019
From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:02:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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not at the desperation point yet, but getting there! Laundry list is getting longer instead of shorter!
26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
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BSchirano at yahoo.com 

    On Friday, May 24, 2019, 11:43:07 AM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  
I?m trying to think of a time when I was at this stage of putting the car back together and it HADN?T reached a ?moment of desperation?? :-)
 
 ?
 
With my Spit, I raced a pretty heavy schedule.? Running with both VSCDA and Midwestern Council, I could do 10-15 races a year back in the day.? So I was almost CONSTANTLY in thrash mode between April and November.? Which might explain some of my more interesting mechanical failures.
 
 ?
 
Scott (B.)?
 
 ?
 
From: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 10:24 AM
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
 
 ?
 
If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts.?
 
 ?
 
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.? I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.? Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.? Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making?
 
?
 
Scott (B.)
 
?
 
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
To: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be
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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
 
?
 
Marcel, Brian;
 
I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.
 
Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
 
Hope this clears up any confusion.
 
Phil
 
Sent from my iPhone
 

On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote:
 

?
 
So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
 
Marcel.
 
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Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
 
?
 
Brian;
 
All perfectly normal.
 
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
 
Enjoy your new clutch!
 
Phil Gott
 
Sent from my iPhone
 

On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

Hey Friends
 
?
 
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
 
?
 
Normal / Correct??
 
?
 
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please
 
?
 
Thanks
 
Brian
 
?
 
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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 10:51:22 2019
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 24 11:08:48 2019
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 17:08:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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 If you're using a clutch PP from XXX, and a custom racing disc from YYY, those are the "correct" parts.If you're using a complete off-the-shelf clutch kit, there should be absolutely no adjustment/shimming required.Realize also that we're not "spacing" the PP out any distance, the most I've had to do is shim under .030, usually considerably less.The PP is just a big bellville washer that compresses axially with increasing pressure produced (clamping force) as it's compressed, up until the overcenter point, and the pivot points which determine the arm length ratio result in little travel in the plate (ie shimming it) and a lot on the TO bearing contact end.
In other words the shim required is usually pretty thin, it's almost a matter of fine-tuning a given combination, not to correct another problem...

Glen
If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts.?
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>; Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

not at the desperation point yet, but getting there! Laundry list is getting longer instead of shorter!
26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com 

    On Friday, May 24, 2019, 11:43:07 AM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  I?m trying to think of a time when I was at this stage of putting the car back together and it HADN?T reached a ?moment of desperation?? :-)  ? With my Spit, I raced a pretty heavy schedule.? Running with both VSCDA and Midwestern Council, I could do 10-15 races a year back in the day.? So I was almost CONSTANTLY in thrash mode between April and November.? Which might explain some of my more interesting mechanical failures.  ? Scott (B.)?  ? From: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 10:24 AM
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question  ? If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts.?  ? On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.? I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.? Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.? Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making? ? Scott (B.) ? From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question ? Marcel, Brian; I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible. Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP. Hope this clears up any confusion. Phil Sent from my iPhone 
On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote: 
? So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather. Marcel. Van:"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question ? Brian; All perfectly normal. Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat. Enjoy your new clutch! Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone 
On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
Hey Friends ? just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.? ? Normal / Correct?? ? am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please ? Thanks Brian ? 26A GT6+ Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com 

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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Fri May 24 13:50:00 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:50:00 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
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Amici,

Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original Sabrina engines.

Would love to know the asking price...

Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.

A fun addition to any garage!


Brad Eells
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From billdentin at aol.com  Fri May 24 14:37:08 2019
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Amici...
I should say!!!? Maybe Chris will have some inside info for us at some point..
I was always interested those TRS cars (especially the unique TR3S cars).? One discovered in an Illinois garage got away.? I think that is the one The Roadster Factory has, and I think they paid around 15K way back then..
The Sabrinia engine was sexy, but notice it never made it into production.? There had to be a reason why it didn't.
Bill Dentinger

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Amici,

Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original Sabrina engines.

Would love to know the asking price...

Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.

A fun addition to any garage!


Brad Eells
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Fri May 24 14:41:49 2019
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:41:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
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What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment Group,
sell 50 shares and buy one?  I volunteer to be the custodian of one of
them. I have the space and the skills.
Bob Kramer


On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:51 PM Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Amici,
>
> Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up
> for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original
> Sabrina engines.
>
> Would love to know the asking price...
>
> Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.
>
> A fun addition to any garage!
>
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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From bownes at web9.com  Fri May 24 14:56:25 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:56:25 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWvCOO+9wwxBsT1wj050UYR-_pwQaO51in+scCcGjYFvFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
 <CABFvdWvCOO+9wwxBsT1wj050UYR-_pwQaO51in+scCcGjYFvFg@mail.gmail.com>
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Two classes of shares, one includes driving rights, one includes wrenching
and polishing? ;)

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 4:43 PM Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment Group,
> sell 50 shares and buy one?  I volunteer to be the custodian of one of
> them. I have the space and the skills.
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:51 PM Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Amici,
>>
>> Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up
>> for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original
>> Sabrina engines.
>>
>> Would love to know the asking price...
>>
>> Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.
>>
>> A fun addition to any garage!
>>
>>
>> Brad Eells
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
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From kaskastner at gmail.com  Fri May 24 14:57:14 2019
From: kaskastner at gmail.com (Kas Kastner)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 13:57:14 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <1462850231.7374676.1558730228949@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
 <1462850231.7374676.1558730228949@mail.yahoo.com>
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It was too big, too heavy, too complcicated, to expensive, other than those
things it was just right. Apparently no one noticed those items when the
specifications were being drawn up, nor noticed when the prototype was
built up.


On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:38 PM Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Amici...
>
> I should say!!!  Maybe Chris will have some inside info for us at some
> point..
>
> I was always interested those TRS cars (especially the unique TR3S cars).
> One discovered in an Illinois garage got away.  I think that is the one The
> Roadster Factory has, and I think they paid around 15K way back then..
>
> The Sabrinia engine was sexy, but notice it never made it into
> production.  There had to be a reason why it didn't.
>
> Bill Dentinger
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 12:51 pm
> Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
>
> Amici,
>
> Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up
> for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original
> Sabrina engines.
>
> Would love to know the asking price...
>
> Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.
>
> A fun addition to any garage!
>
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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From mdporter at dfn.com  Fri May 24 15:30:14 2019
From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:30:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <CAGiQU1AsDYxARZjw9+4yBLQKsNYBuRsC7gR+2UTc4i_P8uh98w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
 <1462850231.7374676.1558730228949@mail.yahoo.com>
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On 5/24/2019 2:57 PM, Kas Kastner via Fot wrote:
> It was too big, too heavy, too complcicated, to expensive, other than 
> those things it was just right. Apparently no one noticed those items 
> when the specifications were being drawn up, nor noticed when the 
> prototype was built up.
>
And, IIRC, the real kiss of death was that the aluminum castings were 
one-offs, and the metal, during casting, apparently did not receive 
proper degassing.? The result was a limited set of porous castings that 
wept oil and coolant when at working temperature, and the problem 
couldn't be solved by substituting parts, because they all had the same 
fault.

This is a problem with any small run of parts that don't receive 
adequate attention from the foundry.? I recall one model of Ferrari 
twelve-cylinder heads that did the same thing.? The cheap fix today is 
to inject the casting with a loose epoxy slurry under pressure and 
refinish all the surfaces.? The expensive one is to reproduce the 
castings using better methods.


Cheers.

-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....



From mark at bradakis.com  Fri May 24 16:13:28 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:13:28 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWvCOO+9wwxBsT1wj050UYR-_pwQaO51in+scCcGjYFvFg@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CABFvdWvCOO+9wwxBsT1wj050UYR-_pwQaO51in+scCcGjYFvFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fb128f84-ad92-3d20-51c9-a625bda6eac0@bradakis.com>

On 5/24/19 2:41 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:
> What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment 
> Group, sell 50 shares and buy one? I volunteer to be the custodian of 
> one of them. I have the space and the skills.
> Bob Kramer
>

Good idea!? I'll throw in ten bucks.? Then again, I just got a raise, 
I'll make it twenty!

mjb.



From bownes at web9.com  Fri May 24 17:06:13 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 19:06:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
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References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
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I think mjb qualifies for a stock grant from the corporation.

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 6:13 PM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> On 5/24/19 2:41 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:
> > What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment
> > Group, sell 50 shares and buy one? I volunteer to be the custodian of
> > one of them. I have the space and the skills.
> > Bob Kramer
> >
>
> Good idea!  I'll throw in ten bucks.  Then again, I just got a raise,
> I'll make it twenty!
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From bschirano at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 19:45:48 2019
From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 01:45:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question - 1st test passed
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Well, today 4 hrs in the garage with some help and the trans and drive shaft is in, Test fired briefly on the jack stands and clutch behavior seems OK.? In next few days I will drop it down and see how the clutch behaves with some load. But I have some other work still before it can be dropped. Will keep you posted
Thanks all
Brian
26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com 

    On Friday, May 24, 2019, 6:19:23 AM EDT, Phil Gott <vfracing at aol.com> wrote:  
 
 Brian;All perfectly normal.Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.Enjoy your new clutch!Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone
On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hey Friends
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
Normal / Correct??
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

ThanksBrian
26A GT6+Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com


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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri May 24 20:38:03 2019
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 02:38:03 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Throwout Bearing
Message-ID: <BYAPR12MB331842B655594BC668086C38BA030@BYAPR12MB3318.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

It looks like there are two different throw-out bearings for Spitfires. One for early, one for late. Anybody happen to know what the difference is?

Thanks,
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Sat May 25 05:47:04 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 11:47:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Throwout Bearing
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 The early cars used a finger type PP, it takes a different release bearing than the later diaphragm type.Glen
 
 
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Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 10:39 pm
Subject: [Fot] Throwout Bearing

 #yiv7414435099 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}It looks like there are two different throw-out bearings for Spitfires. One for early, one for late. Anybody happen to know what the difference is?
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From kaskastner at gmail.com  Sat May 25 09:40:01 2019
From: kaskastner at gmail.com (Kas Kastner)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 08:40:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
Message-ID: <CAGiQU1B_4U1=EKM5JHr+M-534hezw-Of53ZKyEQNMxCxNteO+Q@mail.gmail.com>

I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team
Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had
been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he
was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and
terrific driver.

*Never be beaten by equipment.*
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From mikegranat9 at gmail.com  Sat May 25 10:05:54 2019
From: mikegranat9 at gmail.com (Mike Granat)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 09:05:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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This is heart-breaking news. He was an amazing driver, businessman, and
human being. I followed him around the various California tracks in the
60's in my old,  beat up '58 +4 Morgan, and proudly carry his number 45 on
the +4 I now race in SOVREN in the Northwest. He was a Gentleman, and a
gentle man. I am so sad, and so sorry. My sincerest condolences to his
family, the many great friends of whom Kas I know was the greatest, and to
all of those he inspired. He was a role model, and example of the highest
standard, and a Hero.

On Sat, May 25, 2019, 8:41 AM Kas Kastner via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team
> Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had
> been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he
> was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and
> terrific driver.
>
> *Never be beaten by equipment.*
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat May 25 11:36:13 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 13:36:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?  More Data but nothing obvious
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OK, I re-ran the comp and leakdown tests.  Replaced a gauge that was reading low on the leakdown tester, so I now trust the results. With the exception of #3, leakdown was almost all piston ring leak-by.  #3 had exhaust noise too.

1 - cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 195, prior cold comp 200
2 - cold leak 9%, hot leak 12%, hot comp 175, pcc 180
3 - cold leak 15%, hot leak 16%, hot comp 170, pcc 180
4- cold leak 3%, hot leak 3%, hot comp 195, pcc 195
5- cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 172, pcc 190
6 - cold leak 3%, hot leak 5%,  hot comp 170, pcc 185

The leakdown results look good to me and are probably valve related.  I?m used to seeing higher numbers on a season-old motor.
Compression - I don?t know if the drop on 5 and 6 is normal for cold to hot testing.  What would cause this relative to cylinders with almost no change?
Plugs - Kas asked about the plugs - When I pulled them the first time, the insulators were very light tan, almost white, with tan electrodes - plugs looked the way they usually look in this motor.  After warm-up, they got darker, but not surprising since it was mostly idle time and nothing under load.  No oil on the plugs.  No visible oil coming out the tailpipe, same color back there as usual.
BTW, my lap times on the last session were a second off the weekend best, but so were most of my competitors, so the engine still seems strong.

At this point, unless anyone has more suggestions short of tear-down I guess I?ll run it again as-is.  The oil venting points (two valve cover hoses) have not changed, so there was nothing that would have dumped more oil than usual.  I have no block vent, so nothing to blame there. 

I could have had a mind fart and run with the accusump valve closed (it?s manual) but when I pulled the car off the trailer there was oil and pressure in the accusump, so I must have shut it off full.  Thus, there should not have been excess oil in the pan.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 10:32 PM
> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
> 
> I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and
> lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
> After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
> Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing
> out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
> Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:
> 
> 1 - 200 and 2%
> 2- 180 and 6%
> 3 - 180 and 9%
> 4 - 195 and 0%
> 5 - 190 and 0%
> 6 - 185 and 0%
> 
> Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right,
> as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is
> slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.
> There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at
> idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
> EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored
> cylinders at top speed What do i have - failing rings?
> Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart
> would be appreciated.
> 
> Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
> TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
> GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke Spitfire -
> Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
> Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
> 
> Scott Janzen


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From paulricco at att.net  Sat May 25 12:26:51 2019
From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 13:26:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?  More Data but nothing obvious
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Scott,

When we first bought our car we chased a lot of breathing issues and oil being pushed in strange places.  I ended up fabricating a breather tank so and some custom take-offs to solve our issues.  It allowed me to breath the engine the way we wanted and put the tank where we wanted it.  It has taken a lot of pressure off of the engine seals.

If you do not have a crank breather, then it sounds like the oil has be coming from your valve cover to your catch tank.  Is that a correct assumption?

If so, I have 2 questions:

1.  Did the oil level raise much higher than normal under the valve cover?  Is it possible that something has restricted the oil?s ability to flow from the head back into to crankcase? 
2.  Is your catch tank located lower than the breather take-off?  If it is, then excess oil under the valve cover would have followed the path of lease resistance to your catch tank.

I only ask, because it sounds like for that much liquid to have ended up in the catch tank, the oil level had to have gotten high under the valve cover.

We have friends that run a team that supports about 8 cars.  They honestly admitted to oil level problems being cause by about six people ?checking and topping off the oil? before every session.  Pretty funny, that a pro team could have that kind of fun.  I do not think that is your issue.

My curiosity would be think through the flow of the oil, and why did it end up in the can.

If your only breather is at the valve cover, then there had to have been a lot of oil under there.  Why did it not follow the returns and flow back into the sump?

Paul Ricco 

> On May 25, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> OK, I re-ran the comp and leakdown tests.  Replaced a gauge that was reading low on the leakdown tester, so I now trust the results. With the exception of #3, leakdown was almost all piston ring leak-by.  #3 had exhaust noise too.
> 
> 1 - cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 195, prior cold comp 200
> 2 - cold leak 9%, hot leak 12%, hot comp 175, pcc 180
> 3 - cold leak 15%, hot leak 16%, hot comp 170, pcc 180
> 4- cold leak 3%, hot leak 3%, hot comp 195, pcc 195
> 5- cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 172, pcc 190
> 6 - cold leak 3%, hot leak 5%,  hot comp 170, pcc 185
> 
> The leakdown results look good to me and are probably valve related.  I?m used to seeing higher numbers on a season-old motor.
> Compression - I don?t know if the drop on 5 and 6 is normal for cold to hot testing.  What would cause this relative to cylinders with almost no change?
> Plugs - Kas asked about the plugs - When I pulled them the first time, the insulators were very light tan, almost white, with tan electrodes - plugs looked the way they usually look in this motor.  After warm-up, they got darker, but not surprising since it was mostly idle time and nothing under load.  No oil on the plugs.  No visible oil coming out the tailpipe, same color back there as usual.
> BTW, my lap times on the last session were a second off the weekend best, but so were most of my competitors, so the engine still seems strong.
> 
> At this point, unless anyone has more suggestions short of tear-down I guess I?ll run it again as-is.  The oil venting points (two valve cover hoses) have not changed, so there was nothing that would have dumped more oil than usual.  I have no block vent, so nothing to blame there. 
> 
> I could have had a mind fart and run with the accusump valve closed (it?s manual) but when I pulled the car off the trailer there was oil and pressure in the accusump, so I must have shut it off full.  Thus, there should not have been excess oil in the pan.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 10:32 PM
>> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
>> Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
>> 
>> I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and
>> lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
>> After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
>> Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing
>> out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
>> Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:
>> 
>> 1 - 200 and 2%
>> 2- 180 and 6%
>> 3 - 180 and 9%
>> 4 - 195 and 0%
>> 5 - 190 and 0%
>> 6 - 185 and 0%
>> 
>> Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right,
>> as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is
>> slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.
>> There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at
>> idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
>> EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored
>> cylinders at top speed What do i have - failing rings?
>> Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart
>> would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
>> TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
>> GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke Spitfire -
>> Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
>> Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
>> 
>> Scott Janzen
> 
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat May 25 12:50:12 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 14:50:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?  More Data but nothing obvious
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Hi, Paul, good thoughts, but this is exactly the same breather and catch can configuration I?ve been running for the past six years, with no issues.
There was no oil leaking out around the valve cover gasket itself, though it was blowing out these breather holes and the pinhole in the top of the valve cover cap.
Return of oil to the crank - oil flows back from the head through all of the pushrod galleys.  I cannot see how they could possibly be obstructed.
You do bring up an interesting point - is there possibly substantially more flow to the rocker arm assembly all of a sudden?  The only way this could happen is if there were significant wear on the assembly that now allows a huge oil flow.

This was not a problem that was building all weekend.  I have the bonnet open after every race, have a meticulous engine compartment with a dry engine and clean surfaces - this was a sudden change from the last race saturday to after the only race sunday.

On May 25, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Paul Ricco <paulricco at att.net> wrote:

Scott,

When we first bought our car we chased a lot of breathing issues and oil being pushed in strange places.  I ended up fabricating a breather tank so and some custom take-offs to solve our issues.  It allowed me to breath the engine the way we wanted and put the tank where we wanted it.  It has taken a lot of pressure off of the engine seals.

If you do not have a crank breather, then it sounds like the oil has be coming from your valve cover to your catch tank.  Is that a correct assumption?

If so, I have 2 questions:

1.  Did the oil level raise much higher than normal under the valve cover?  Is it possible that something has restricted the oil?s ability to flow from the head back into to crankcase? 
2.  Is your catch tank located lower than the breather take-off?  If it is, then excess oil under the valve cover would have followed the path of lease resistance to your catch tank.

I only ask, because it sounds like for that much liquid to have ended up in the catch tank, the oil level had to have gotten high under the valve cover.

We have friends that run a team that supports about 8 cars.  They honestly admitted to oil level problems being cause by about six people ?checking and topping off the oil? before every session.  Pretty funny, that a pro team could have that kind of fun.  I do not think that is your issue.

My curiosity would be think through the flow of the oil, and why did it end up in the can.

If your only breather is at the valve cover, then there had to have been a lot of oil under there.  Why did it not follow the returns and flow back into the sump?

Paul Ricco 

> On May 25, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> 
> OK, I re-ran the comp and leakdown tests.  Replaced a gauge that was reading low on the leakdown tester, so I now trust the results. With the exception of #3, leakdown was almost all piston ring leak-by.  #3 had exhaust noise too.
> 
> 1 - cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 195, prior cold comp 200
> 2 - cold leak 9%, hot leak 12%, hot comp 175, pcc 180
> 3 - cold leak 15%, hot leak 16%, hot comp 170, pcc 180
> 4- cold leak 3%, hot leak 3%, hot comp 195, pcc 195
> 5- cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 172, pcc 190
> 6 - cold leak 3%, hot leak 5%,  hot comp 170, pcc 185
> 
> The leakdown results look good to me and are probably valve related.  I?m used to seeing higher numbers on a season-old motor.
> Compression - I don?t know if the drop on 5 and 6 is normal for cold to hot testing.  What would cause this relative to cylinders with almost no change?
> Plugs - Kas asked about the plugs - When I pulled them the first time, the insulators were very light tan, almost white, with tan electrodes - plugs looked the way they usually look in this motor.  After warm-up, they got darker, but not surprising since it was mostly idle time and nothing under load.  No oil on the plugs.  No visible oil coming out the tailpipe, same color back there as usual.
> BTW, my lap times on the last session were a second off the weekend best, but so were most of my competitors, so the engine still seems strong.
> 
> At this point, unless anyone has more suggestions short of tear-down I guess I?ll run it again as-is.  The oil venting points (two valve cover hoses) have not changed, so there was nothing that would have dumped more oil than usual.  I have no block vent, so nothing to blame there. 
> 
> I could have had a mind fart and run with the accusump valve closed (it?s manual) but when I pulled the car off the trailer there was oil and pressure in the accusump, so I must have shut it off full.  Thus, there should not have been excess oil in the pan.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 10:32 PM
>> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
>> Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
>> 
>> I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and
>> lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
>> After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
>> Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing
>> out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
>> Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:
>> 
>> 1 - 200 and 2%
>> 2- 180 and 6%
>> 3 - 180 and 9%
>> 4 - 195 and 0%
>> 5 - 190 and 0%
>> 6 - 185 and 0%
>> 
>> Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right,
>> as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is
>> slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.
>> There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at
>> idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
>> EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored
>> cylinders at top speed What do i have - failing rings?
>> Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart
>> would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
>> TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
>> GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke Spitfire -
>> Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
>> Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
>> 
>> Scott Janzen
> 
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From rjl at gt-classics.com  Sat May 25 18:36:56 2019
From: rjl at gt-classics.com (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 20:36:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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I am very sorry for your loss, and that of his family.&nbsp; Alzheimer's is a horrible
disease.

John
&nbsp;



On Sat, 25 May 2019 08:40:01 -0700, Kas Kastner via Fot  wrote:
&nbsp;
I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and terrific driver.



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From gasket.works at gte.net  Sat May 25 20:25:31 2019
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 02:25:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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I bet you boys?had some?marvelous?moments on the track together. ?

MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2
 On?Saturday, May 25, 2019,?Kas Kastner via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and terrific driver.
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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Sun May 26 14:37:19 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 20:37:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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A great driver that I got to grow up around and learn from. Jerry Barker?

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From kkjjk at aol.com  Sun May 26 17:34:30 2019
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 23:34:30 +0000 (UTC)
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 Thanks for letting us know, Kas.? Losing a best friend is really tough, as I lost mine about seven years ago. My condolences to you as well as his family......-- Jay
 
 
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I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and terrific driver.Never be beaten by equipment._______________________________________________
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon May 27 11:30:26 2019
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 19:30:26 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Brands Hatch - TR8 IMSA GTO
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Hi Guys,

after 42 years the IMSA car has returned to England, its country of production. We faced a strong grid with fast cars and good drivers. The track is very difficult but great fun to drive, with a lot of suspense to the driver as the run of zones are small.

Race1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Mm6szBmos

Race 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIGM5HOPokw

 

Cheers

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From kkjjk at aol.com  Mon May 27 14:49:45 2019
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 20:49:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] GT6 Diff
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Hello all-? I am looking for a recommendation for a good differential rebuilder, as I broke a tooth off the pinion gear on my GT6 at Summit Point last weekend on the first practice session.? I didn't know what happened at the time, but the tooth cracked the case on it's way out!? I have another diff that will be coming out of a Spitfire, but I want to install a Quaife limited slip unit in it.? Does anyone know of a good builder whom can do this and rebuild the unit entirely and PROPERLY?? I know of Quantum Mechanics in CT, but have not had good results with that outfit of late.? I am on the East Coast and would prefer to use someone here if possible, but I am open to shipping the diffs wherever if necessary.? Any help is appreciated!? Thanks!? Hope everyone is having a nice Memorial Day.-- Jay De Pol
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Tue May 28 09:50:13 2019
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 15:50:13 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Buying a Spitfire
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Looking for a little help.

My brother-in-law is looking at a 76 Spitfire, he has never owned a British car, but wants a project to work on together and learn with his son who is into cars.

I told him the usual maintenance, etc. story. But I don't know much about Spitfires.

Looked over the car quickly yesterday, body is in good shape, no visible rust except battery box. Interior is old but decent. Will need brake job (really spongy) and rebuild front suspension.

Leaking oil at rear of head gasket (not valve cover) so a replacement will be needed.

Seller is asking $5500.

Is this a decent price (not adjusted for above items)?
Is this a good or bad year to buy?


Thanks, Mike

62 TR4, Race car
63 TR4, Street car

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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 11:34:01 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 17:34:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
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I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.? Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.? Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?? I don't even know where I got it.? I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.? I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.? Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Tue May 28 11:40:05 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 17:40:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Buying a Spitfire
References: <770113620.169391.1559065205491.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <770113620.169391.1559065205491@mail.yahoo.com>

 Just a few things to check-Make sure "no rust" means no rust, any structural rust will be a $$$ job to repair, and yes the tub does provide some rigidity to the structure.Plan on full hydraulic rebuild.Check U-joints, rear axles, hubs.Drive if possible to see if the rear gear R&P whines or if diff gears have lash.Driveline vibrations?
Engine main bearings are prone to failure.Check crank end float.Compression check.Check gearbox for smooth shifts up and down and no excessive whine low & reverse.If the oil leak is directly @ L/H rear, coming from the head gasket, it's likely weeping from the oil feed hole to the top.The rest is pretty much basic car, and any old Spitfire is likely gonna be a project, so in that sense it sounds perfect.Re value, it would have to be a good solid running Spit for that $$, but that's totally subjective.I've long told folks who are getting into Brit sports cars, to try a Spit of Sprite/Midget first, to get a taste of it, and if one can deal with maintenance etc on one of them it's time to step up into a real sports car, a B or big TR, etc.(not to piss off any Spitfire owners...)
HTH.Glen
 
 
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From: Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
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Sent: Tue, May 28, 2019 12:16 pm
Subject: [Fot] Buying a Spitfire

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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 13:04:33 2019
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:04:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
Jamie
    On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.? Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.? Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?? I don't even know where I got it.? I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.? I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.? Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Jack
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 14:50:25 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 20:50:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <25062409.673410.1559070273991@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Thanks Jamie.? I have a 1971 MGB that came with the original jack, and it is different.? It has a rod that extends horizontally from the jack and slides into a tube under the side of the car.? It lifts one side of the car.? Could they have used a different jack in different years, either earlier or later than mine?
Not sure about Austin Marina, I've never owned one of those and I'm not sure where I would have picked up a jack for one.? Anyone else have any suggestions?
Regards,
Jack

    On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 3:04:36 PM EDT, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:  
 
  Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
Jamie
    On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.? Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.? Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?? I don't even know where I got it.? I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.? I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.? Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Jack
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Tue May 28 15:28:14 2019
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 16:28:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <822366750.7145357.1559076625592@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321@mail.yahoo.com>
 <25062409.673410.1559070273991@mail.yahoo.com>
 <822366750.7145357.1559076625592@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWt__=DNqh8hK2E6LULzExRuUDLZfRHdHxH98OU-+MnPmg@mail.gmail.com>

Look up the PN in Google pictures. Says something about later e-types,
Austin Morris I believe.

Bob Kramer


On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:50 PM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks Jamie.  I have a 1971 MGB that came with the original jack, and it
> is different.  It has a rod that extends horizontally from the jack and
> slides into a tube under the side of the car.  It lifts one side of the
> car.  Could they have used a different jack in different years, either
> earlier or later than mine?
>
> Not sure about Austin Marina, I've never owned one of those and I'm not
> sure where I would have picked up a jack for one.  Anyone else have any
> suggestions?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jack
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 3:04:36 PM EDT, Jamie Palmer <
> tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
>
> Jamie
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had
> taking up space for many years.  Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.
> Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?  I don't even know
> where I got it.  I have owned all of the British marques over the years and
> I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.  I'm most familiar
> with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.  Could be MG, Jag,
> Healy, or other.
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
>
> Jack
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From bownes at seiri.com  Tue May 28 15:37:56 2019
From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 17:37:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Squaretail Spit trunk lid
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOROQTcGtbCZVAftJU6g3iMCQ4kYVEQeHked1p+9=V6sFw@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone need one? I tripped over one in my garage over the weekend. Not
really sure why I have it, but I don't need it. Stripped, prepped, ready to
paint. In great shape.

Located outside Albany NY.

Still looking for someone to take my GT6 too. :(

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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Tue May 28 16:24:44 2019
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 18:24:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWt__=DNqh8hK2E6LULzExRuUDLZfRHdHxH98OU-+MnPmg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321@mail.yahoo.com>
 <25062409.673410.1559070273991@mail.yahoo.com>
 <822366750.7145357.1559076625592@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CABFvdWt__=DNqh8hK2E6LULzExRuUDLZfRHdHxH98OU-+MnPmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6B177E68-3996-47F8-AA08-94EBBCF59F16@gmail.com>

Definitely not for a Morgan.
Duncan

> On May 28, 2019, at 5:28 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Look up the PN in Google pictures. Says something about later e-types, Austin Morris I believe.
> 
> Bob Kramer
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:50 PM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> Thanks Jamie.  I have a 1971 MGB that came with the original jack, and it is different.  It has a rod that extends horizontally from the jack and slides into a tube under the side of the car.  It lifts one side of the car.  Could they have used a different jack in different years, either earlier or later than mine?
> 
> Not sure about Austin Marina, I've never owned one of those and I'm not sure where I would have picked up a jack for one.  Anyone else have any suggestions?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jack
> 
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 3:04:36 PM EDT, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com <mailto:tr6driver at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
> 
> Jamie
> 
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.  Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.  Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?  I don't even know where I got it.  I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.  I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.  Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
> 
> Jack
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 17:47:14 2019
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (James Palmer)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:47:14 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <822366750.7145357.1559076625592@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <0A1E6583-6C04-4F9A-927F-9D52F8C86FA4@yahoo.com>

It looks just like my 1975 Marina jack, color included.  Perhaps fits other stuff too though!

Jamie Palmer

> On May 28, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jamie.  I have a 1971 MGB that came with the original jack, and it is different.  It has a rod that extends horizontally from the jack and slides into a tube under the side of the car.  It lifts one side of the car.  Could they have used a different jack in different years, either earlier or later than mine?
> 
> Not sure about Austin Marina, I've never owned one of those and I'm not sure where I would have picked up a jack for one.  Anyone else have any suggestions?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jack
> 
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 3:04:36 PM EDT, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
> 
> Jamie
> 
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.  Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.  Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?  I don't even know where I got it.  I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.  I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.  Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
> 
> Jack
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From mark at bradakis.com  Tue May 28 19:18:42 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:18:42 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Squaretail Spit trunk lid
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1+nOROQTcGtbCZVAftJU6g3iMCQ4kYVEQeHked1p+9=V6sFw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <0d7ae063-0a2f-de9c-97dd-4e10fdee808f@bradakis.com>

On 5/28/19 3:37 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
>
>
> Still looking for someone to take my GT6 too. :(
>

Trailer it to my house, I'll help you unload it.

mjb.



From mark at bradakis.com  Tue May 28 22:27:44 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 22:27:44 -0600
Subject: [Fot] The journey of a thousand miles...
Message-ID: <6f4d2da9-1df7-dbe8-06bd-b06f124cd877@bradakis.com>

Was a nice day here in Salt Lake, actually spent a few minutes out in 
the garage.? What a mess.? Going to take some work to get it to where I 
can actually work on cars again. Still think I should be able to at 
least get the Killer Spit to a late season autocross or two this year.

Downloaded the Pegasus catalog for perusal at my convenience. Gee, 
prices have changed a bit since I last bought a helmet and fireproof 
underwear.? Any other suppliers I should be checking out these days?

mjb.


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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May 29 18:54:49 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 18:54:49 -0600
Subject: [Fot] A proud member of ???
Message-ID: <308386ae-b58c-693c-ac09-708fc4fe7f18@bradakis.com>

SO in furtherance of getting Killer back on track, I should probably 
join up with some vintage racing group.? RMVR in Colorado seems like my 
best bet, based on proximity.? Was a member many years ago, back in the 
day of the street races in Avon and Steamboat.? Would VARA be worth my 
trouble?? Any others?

There used to a group here in Utah, Intermountain Vintage Racing.? It 
was a rather hodge podge of a few random folks, did some hill climbs and 
ran "road" races out at the old Wendover airport.? The "track" was 
basically a mile long autocross, cone lined run around the worst of the 
broken concrete and potholes of the old airfield.? The fellow who ran it 
back then got tired of the amount of energy, time and money it was 
costing him to keep it alive, and kind of burned out on racing and 
sports cars altogether.? At least there's a real race track in the area 
now, but as far as I know no one else has stepped up to revive or 
replace IVR in Utah.? Too bad.

mjb.



From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Thu May 30 06:12:40 2019
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 12:12:40 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Buying a Spitfire
Message-ID: <BL0PR04MB45777F059126EAEA1DF662BDB4180@BL0PR04MB4577.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks for everyone's input. He is going to pass on this one.

Thanks
Mike

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From spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com  Thu May 30 07:18:27 2019
From: spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 09:18:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] MOSPORT ehh!
Message-ID: <001d01d516ea$2cc1e2c0$8645a840$@rr.com>

One of the highlights of the vintage racing scene in the Northeast in June
is the VARAC event at Mosport (now officially called Canadian Tire
Motorsport Park)in  Bowmanville, Ontario. Those that have never been there
should experience it at least once. Currently there is a $100 discount until
June 1st. Realize also with the exchange rate, this is a very reasonably
priced event. Crossing into Canada is easy and camping is free with plenty
of paddock space. It?s an experience to not be missed. Our hosts provide
entertainment and a roaming dinner on Friday night, usually consisting of a
number of types of wings; subs; beverages and deserts. and also there is a
banquet on Saturday night. 

 

A number of Triumph folks are regulars at this event.

I will be doing tech again this year and can answer any questions.  

 

To coin an old clich?, ?Try it you?ll like it!?

 

The Triumph and MGs will be in the paddock area at the exit from the false
grid.

Can I get a head count? Once again there is a Triumph/MG Challenge with the
awarding of the Group 44 Inc Trophy.

 

Russ Moore

Spitfire #49

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 30 07:35:24 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 08:35:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] MOSPORT ehh!
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One of the best.

Great memories.

Our first Kastner Cup.

I hope that Sean, Mark, and Brendan can experience this track some day.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 30, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Spitfire Racing via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> One of the highlights of the vintage racing scene in the Northeast in June is the VARAC event at Mosport (now officially called Canadian Tire Motorsport Park)in  Bowmanville, Ontario. Those that have never been there should experience it at least once. Currently there is a $100 discount until June 1st. Realize also with the exchange rate, this is a very reasonably priced event. Crossing into Canada is easy and camping is free with plenty of paddock space. It?s an experience to not be missed. Our hosts provide entertainment and a roaming dinner on Friday night, usually consisting of a number of types of wings; subs; beverages and deserts. and also there is a banquet on Saturday night.
>  
> A number of Triumph folks are regulars at this event.
> I will be doing tech again this year and can answer any questions.  
>  
> To coin an old clich?, ?Try it you?ll like it!?
>  
> The Triumph and MGs will be in the paddock area at the exit from the false grid.
> Can I get a head count? Once again there is a Triumph/MG Challenge with the awarding of the Group 44 Inc Trophy.
>  
> Russ Moore
> Spitfire #49
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu May 30 08:37:44 2019
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 10:37:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] MOSPORT ehh!
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Then there is the 170 minutes of track time on the schedule. Just shy of 
3 hours on Mosport, the track that so many racing greats have called 
their favorite.

It's a fantastic event put on by a very well run organization at an epic 
track. Anybody within towing distance should consider it. I'll see you 
there, Russ!



On 2019-05-30 09:18, Russ Moore via Fot wrote:
> One of the highlights of the vintage racing scene in the Northeast in
> June is the VARAC event at Mosport (now officially called Canadian
> Tire Motorsport Park)in  Bowmanville, Ontario. Those that have never
> been there should experience it at least once. Currently there is a
> $100 discount until June 1st. Realize also with the exchange rate,
> this is a very reasonably priced event. Crossing into Canada is easy
> and camping is free with plenty of paddock space. It's an experience
> to not be missed. Our hosts provide entertainment and a roaming dinner
> on Friday night, usually consisting of a number of types of wings;
> subs; beverages and deserts. and also there is a banquet on Saturday
> night.

From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Thu May 30 09:18:09 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 15:18:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] MGB for sale
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  I know this is not a Triumph, but I'm also sure many folks, like myself, have owned both Triumphs and MG's.? I have no interest in this, except helping a very nice woman sell a car that her father bought when it was nearly new.
  Below is some information about a 1975 MGB that is for sale.? I've known this car for many years.? It was owned by a guy who lived next door to my parents in Corning, NY, and died way to young.? His daughter took over the car and has had a lot of work done on it, since she has had it.? She is now wanting to sell it, and has asked me to forward the information to people who might be interested, or know someone who might be interested, in buying it.? If you have questions, or want more information, please contact her directly at koconnor673 at hotmail.com.? Her name is Kimberly Oconnor.? I can confirm that the car is very straight and solid, and has been well taken care of, although it has been a number of years since I have seen it.? She is asking $10K, but the price is negotiable.? Thanks.
Jack Wheeler
Kimberly says:

   Would love if you knew anyone looking. ?It's been well taken care of and want to see it go to a good home.?

1975 MG B Convertible??
    
   - One Family has owned for last 44 years (Husband & Wife and now their Daughter)
   - 53, 799 miles
   - British Racing Green (was originally Harvest Gold ? repainted in ?96)
   - Original Top & Interior
   - 1996 engine rebuilt
   - 1996 body work completed (new front fenders & back rocker panels replaced)
   - 2016 Engine refresh
   - 2016 Evans waterless coolant put in
   - 2016 Stromberg Carb rebuild
   - 2016 New Battery
   - 2016 New Brakes
   - 2016 New Stereo
   - Has a Nylon cover
   - Has MG embossed floor mats
   - Original spare tire
   - Needs a good home
-?????????????????????? 
    
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From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Thu May 30 10:30:00 2019
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (DPPI - Mark Craig)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 16:30:00 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
Message-ID: <d1668d4fa288489bb666bb3e71f960b3@dieselperformanceparts.com>

Membership,

Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 30 10:38:15 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 11:38:15 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
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Mark, FOT, 

We have REAR ALUMINUM PLATES for both Spitfire and TR6.

They are not the same.

While I am at it, we will discount these to interested FOT.

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 30, 2019, at 11:30 AM, DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Membership,
>  
> Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??
>  
> <image001.png>
>  
> MARK CRAIG
> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc.
> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211
> www.dieselperformanceparts.com
> <image002.jpg> <image003.jpg> <image004.jpg> <image005.jpg>
>  
>  
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu May 30 12:16:24 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 18:16:24 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
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Will a TR6 rear plate bolt up to a Spitfire block?

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via Fot
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:38 AM
To: DPPI - Mark Craig <info at dieselperformanceparts.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Bellhousing info

Mark, FOT,

We have REAR ALUMINUM PLATES for both Spitfire and TR6.

They are not the same.

While I am at it, we will discount these to interested FOT.

Regards,
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4505 Donald Dr
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Membership,

Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??

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From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com  Thu May 30 12:20:42 2019
From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 13:20:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
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Spit starter is on the drivers side and so easy to get to, TR6 is on the passenger side under the @$*% carbs and exhaust manifold, which is probably okay with a stock set up but quite difficult to get to with triple webers and a header.

Dusty 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 11:30 AM, DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Membership,
>  
> Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??
>  
> <image001.png>
>  
> MARK CRAIG
> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc.
> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211
> www.dieselperformanceparts.com
> <image002.jpg> <image003.jpg> <image004.jpg> <image005.jpg>
>  
>  
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> Fax: 615-834-9923
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Thu May 30 13:17:00 2019
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 15:17:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
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 <CY4PR15MB18797CF45CF164F025469A19E1180@CY4PR15MB1879.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>
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Yes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Will a TR6 rear plate bolt up to a Spitfire block?
>  
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via Fot
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:38 AM
> To: DPPI - Mark Craig <info at dieselperformanceparts.com>
> Cc: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Bellhousing info
>  
> Mark, FOT, 
>  
> We have REAR ALUMINUM PLATES for both Spitfire and TR6.
>  
> They are not the same.
>  
> While I am at it, we will discount these to interested FOT.
>  
> Regards,
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
>  
> 
> On May 30, 2019, at 11:30 AM, DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Membership,
>  
> Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??
>  
> <image001.png>
>  
> MARK CRAIG
> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc.
> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211
> www.dieselperformanceparts.com
> <image002.jpg> <image003.jpg> <image004.jpg> <image005.jpg>
>  
>  
> Phone: 615-834-0066
> Fax: 615-834-9923
> Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com
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>  
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Thu May 30 13:31:06 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 12:31:06 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FOT Nomination - Jonathan Wright
Message-ID: <CACZdCPX7-nB=9cqcrGMEjuvv4h1wWcGekRWSXGDrKzn3gqA9hw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Amici,

I would like to nominate Jonathan Wright to our esteemed group. Today he
has purchased the #93 Black Spitfire out of the Joe Siam stable. He will be
running with VARA as soon as he has the car in shape...it's been stabled
for a while...

Jonathan also has a Spitfire Mk2 for the street that is just coming through
a restoration.

He must be serious...he bought his fire suit before he bought the car!

Do I have a second for Jonathan?

His Email address is: Jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com

Cheers,


*Brad Eells*
*Chino CA*
*#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3*
*#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4*
*1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!*
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 30 13:36:04 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 14:36:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
Message-ID: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>

Wow! I didn?t realize that.

We have aluminum rear engine plates and will look at FOT discount.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 30, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Chuck Gee <chasgee22 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 30, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrot=
> e:
>> =20
>> Will a TR6 rear plate bolt up to a Spitfire block?
>> =20
>> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via Fot
>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:38 AM
>> To: DPPI - Mark Craig <info at dieselperformanceparts.com>
>> Cc: fot at autox.team.net
>> Su

From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu May 30 13:40:45 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 19:40:45 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FOT Nomination - Jonathan Wright
In-Reply-To: <CACZdCPX7-nB=9cqcrGMEjuvv4h1wWcGekRWSXGDrKzn3gqA9hw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACZdCPX7-nB=9cqcrGMEjuvv4h1wWcGekRWSXGDrKzn3gqA9hw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CY4PR15MB18793DA58CF1FF8BA84427AFE1180@CY4PR15MB1879.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

Second!

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Brad Eells via Fot
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 2:31 PM
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: Jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com
Subject: [Fot] FOT Nomination - Jonathan Wright

Hello Amici,

I would like to nominate Jonathan Wright to our esteemed group. Today he has purchased the #93 Black Spitfire out of the Joe Siam stable. He will be running with VARA as soon as he has the car in shape...it's been stabled for a while...

Jonathan also has a Spitfire Mk2 for the street that is just coming through a restoration.

He must be serious...he bought his fire suit before he bought the car!

Do I have a second for Jonathan?

His Email address is: Jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com<mailto:Jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com>

Cheers,


Brad Eells
Chino CA
#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3
#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4
1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!
[https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1HyYLxa1_Lz_Q0kLM3GRJryNDgfOwZyUc&revid=0B9vVTDWaFCqFVmR6Q1FsMExZTHVLcHpja3BpSC9ucGcveHdJPQ]

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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu May 30 17:27:18 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 17:27:18 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
In-Reply-To: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
References: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0be447d0-4bc8-26c8-a58d-cd85b07f9256@bradakis.com>

I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 
block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.

mjb.



From mark at bradakis.com  Thu May 30 17:34:14 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 17:34:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
Message-ID: <d0bf1c3b-4ef9-4256-3ef5-387983b2949f@bradakis.com>

I certainly would have seconded, had others not already done so. 
Jonathon used to live in Utah, he's been to my place before. Welcome to 
the list!

And speaking of racing Spitfires, I will be checking out this group that 
races here in Utah.? Porbably not an ideal group for a Spitfire, but it 
could get me some track time, one way or another.

http://www.nasautah.com

Turns out it is currently being run by some of my old autocross 
buddies.? We'll see how it goes.

mjb.



From jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com  Thu May 30 19:29:08 2019
From: jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com (Jonathan Wright)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 18:29:08 -0700
Subject: [Fot] New guy! Introduction.
Message-ID: <EAB3E58B-958F-4934-994A-D5C73699A037@gmail.com>

Hello all,
I appreciate the warm welcome. I have been a British car fan for about 12 years now. Having had MGBs a Rover Mini, and a few spitfires. The goal has always been to do vintage road racing. I went to the British Extravaganza at buttonwillow this year to photograph the event and meet Brad Ellis in person (we have been Facebook friends for a bit). I knew I had to start road racing. I couldn?t wait any longer. As Mark said, he helped me with my first spitfire about ten years ago, he gave me a little tour of killer spit and reminisced about the glory days of autocross, he also sold me a very nice boot lid for my 73. I just purchased Joe Siam?s black spitfire that had been used as a rental racecar for many years. If any of you have any experience with that specific car, 93 fp, I would love to collect your stories! 
I look forward to getting to know you all and hope to see some of you at the track! 
Jonathan Wright
Here is the car in all of its dusty glory,
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Thu May 30 21:09:13 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 20:09:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] New guy! Introduction.
In-Reply-To: <EAB3E58B-958F-4934-994A-D5C73699A037@gmail.com>
References: <EAB3E58B-958F-4934-994A-D5C73699A037@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6AE31DCD-ECF5-48F1-9DC1-8BF816BCAF9D@gmail.com>

Welcome aboard Jonathan! Good to have more west coat Spitfire racers...we?ll talk about initiation later...

I?m not the new guy anymore!

Cheers,


Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 6:29 PM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I appreciate the warm welcome. I have been a British car fan for about 12 years now. Having had MGBs a Rover Mini, and a few spitfires. The goal has always been to do vintage road racing. I went to the British Extravaganza at buttonwillow this year to photograph the event and meet Brad Ellis in person (we have been Facebook friends for a bit). I knew I had to start road racing. I couldn?t wait any longer. As Mark said, he helped me with my first spitfire about ten years ago, he gave me a little tour of killer spit and reminisced about the glory days of autocross, he also sold me a very nice boot lid for my 73. I just purchased Joe Siam?s black spitfire that had been used as a rental racecar for many years. If any of you have any experience with that specific car, 93 fp, I would love to collect your stories! 
> I look forward to getting to know you all and hope to see some of you at the track! 
> Jonathan Wright
> Here is the car in all of its dusty glory,
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> <image2.jpeg>
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From britracer89 at yahoo.com  Fri May 31 03:25:55 2019
From: britracer89 at yahoo.com (Brian Dennis)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 09:25:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
In-Reply-To: <0be447d0-4bc8-26c8-a58d-cd85b07f9256@bradakis.com>
References: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
 <0be447d0-4bc8-26c8-a58d-cd85b07f9256@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <375991481.8636793.1559294755373@mail.yahoo.com>

The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the above. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least all that I have seen.?
Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is on the left side vs the tr6 & gt6 are on the right. Therefore the six cylinder engine plate will not work on the four cylinder motor. Between the early and late four cylinder engine plates they will all bolt on however I believe the later plates have an extra bolt hole or two vs the early 4 cylinder.?

This is all from memory. Hope it is helpful.Brian


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 7:27 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 
block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.

mjb.


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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 31 05:16:31 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 06:16:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
In-Reply-To: <375991481.8636793.1559294755373@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
 <0be447d0-4bc8-26c8-a58d-cd85b07f9256@bradakis.com>
 <375991481.8636793.1559294755373@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FC992EF6-DA96-49B8-B28B-6E154F52B835@gmail.com>

The TR6 and the GT6 plates are not the same....at least not as we manufacture them in Iowa. We have two part numbers.

I was unaware that the TR6 plate would bolt onto the later Spitfires.

Perhaps some can summarize the potential interchanges?

In the mean time, I had inquiries for a FOT Prices. Good for a week.  Here?s your chance. We?ve sold a few plates for Conversions, but didn?t realize there was that much interest.

GT6.  Rear Plate.  $75 plus shipping
TR6.  Rear Plate.   $75 plus shipping
Spit.   Rear Plate.  $65 plus shipping

TR3.  Front Plate.  $125 plus shipping
TR4.  Front Plate.  $125 plus shipping
Morgan                      $115 plus shipping 
TR6/GT6.                  $ 60 plus shipping

Big Discount. And all in stock.

Thanks,



Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 31, 2019, at 4:25 AM, Brian Dennis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the above. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least all that I have seen. 
> 
> Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is on the left side vs the tr6 & gt6 are on the right. Therefore the six cylinder engine plate will not work on the four cylinder motor. Between the early and late four cylinder engine plates they will all bolt on however I believe the later plates have an extra bolt hole or two vs the early 4 cylinder. 
> 
> This is all from memory. Hope it is helpful.
> Brian
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 7:27 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 
> block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.
> 
> mjb.
> 
> 
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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri May 31 06:14:03 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 08:14:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
In-Reply-To: <375991481.8636793.1559294755373@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
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 <375991481.8636793.1559294755373@mail.yahoo.com>
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I have a TR6 box in my GT6.  The only difference between the gearboxes is two extra flange bolts on the Tr6 bellhousing, for which holes can easily be drilled on the plate.  the rear of the engine block is identical and the  plate bolts right up as the blocks are essentially the same (a bit more block stiffening in sides of the later TR6 blocks, I think).  Starter lines right up on the same flywheel.
Can?t speak for Spitfire.

On May 31, 2019, at 5:25 AM, Brian Dennis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the above. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least all that I have seen. 

Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is on the left side vs the tr6 & gt6 are on the right. Therefore the six cylinder engine plate will not work on the four cylinder motor. Between the early and late four cylinder engine plates they will all bolt on however I believe the later plates have an extra bolt hole or two vs the early 4 cylinder. 

This is all from memory. Hope it is helpful.
Brian


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>

On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 7:27 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 <tel:12961500> 
block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.

mjb.



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From jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com  Fri May 31 11:17:33 2019
From: jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com (Jonathan Wright)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 10:17:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
Message-ID: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>

I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it? 
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Fri May 31 11:33:59 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 10:33:59 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F6751F7B-5F14-474F-A35D-402C34008C00@gmail.com>

Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.

Somewhere in the Midwest?

Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?

Car; number? Driver? Etc?

All of that can help...

Cheers,


Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it? 
> Thanks in advance. 
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 31 11:51:40 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 12:51:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <F6751F7B-5F14-474F-A35D-402C34008C00@gmail.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <00AFC35F-D328-46D5-8B54-937AEB75147C@gmail.com>

That?s Old Blue. Once owned by a guy that was in my employee.

Jack and I pulled it out of his garage, when Jack decided to go Vintage Racing. Some great stories behind all this.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 31, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.
> 
> Somewhere in the Midwest?
> 
> Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?
> 
> Car; number? Driver? Etc?
> 
> All of that can help...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it? 
>> Thanks in advance. 
>> <image1.jpeg>
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Fri May 31 12:07:05 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 11:07:05 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <00AFC35F-D328-46D5-8B54-937AEB75147C@gmail.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
 <F6751F7B-5F14-474F-A35D-402C34008C00@gmail.com>
 <00AFC35F-D328-46D5-8B54-937AEB75147C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C361424B-CA68-40E2-9CC1-2BDD50737854@gmail.com>

I remember some of those stories from the dawn of my time in FOT. And some frightening video that led to New Blue...

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That?s Old Blue. Once owned by a guy that was in my employee.
> 
> Jack and I pulled it out of his garage, when Jack decided to go Vintage Racing. Some great stories behind all this.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.
>> 
>> Somewhere in the Midwest?
>> 
>> Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?
>> 
>> Car; number? Driver? Etc?
>> 
>> All of that can help...
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Brad Eells
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it? 
>>> Thanks in advance. 
>>> <image1.jpeg>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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>>> 
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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri May 31 15:03:41 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 15:03:41 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d5323f86-497e-8152-688a-7d6f23d9773d@bradakis.com>

Sorry to say I have no information regarding that Spitfire.? It did 
remind me that many times over the last few years I wish I was better 
organized, and had kept records of dates, purchase and selling price, 
etc. of every Triumph that passed through my hands, like The Rust 
Rocket, Killer Junior, The White Car, my TR250, countless GT6 and Spit 
projects, parts cars, etc.

Oh well.

mjb.



From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 31 16:41:44 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 17:41:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 2018 KCup T-Shirts.  Anybody have a new x-large.
Message-ID: <0A2BBA61-4194-495D-8182-C3DF375A98E1@gmail.com>

Somebody from Georgia really wants KCup shirts from 2018.

Let me know if there is one available.

The shirts were so popular at Buttonwillow, they ran out and now doing a special run to satisfy continuing requests.

Posters are available, as I ran a short run of those.

I guess we are pretty popular.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri May 31 17:30:48 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 18:30:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <C361424B-CA68-40E2-9CC1-2BDD50737854@gmail.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
 <F6751F7B-5F14-474F-A35D-402C34008C00@gmail.com>
 <00AFC35F-D328-46D5-8B54-937AEB75147C@gmail.com>
 <C361424B-CA68-40E2-9CC1-2BDD50737854@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <97775907-1f36-8ba7-a892-63187cb5871b@tonydrews.com>

Here's me removing the surrey top from that one.? Got changed from 4:3 
aspect ratio to 16:9 by youtube somewhere so it's kinda wiiiide now.

https://youtu.be/PX82xKLZ2JE

Don't have any pics of the spitfire though.

Cheers, Tony

On 5/31/2019 1:07 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote:
> I remember some of those stories from the dawn of my time in FOT. And some frightening video that led to New Blue...
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That?s Old Blue. Once owned by a guy that was in my employee.
>>
>> Jack and I pulled it out of his garage, when Jack decided to go Vintage Racing. Some great stories behind all this.
>>
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>>
>>
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.
>>>
>>> Somewhere in the Midwest?
>>>
>>> Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?
>>>
>>> Car; number? Driver? Etc?
>>>
>>> All of that can help...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Eells
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it?
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> <image1.jpeg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>>
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>>>>
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri May 31 21:57:55 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 03:57:55 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <97775907-1f36-8ba7-a892-63187cb5871b@tonydrews.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
 <F6751F7B-5F14-474F-A35D-402C34008C00@gmail.com>
 <00AFC35F-D328-46D5-8B54-937AEB75147C@gmail.com>
 <C361424B-CA68-40E2-9CC1-2BDD50737854@gmail.com>,
 <97775907-1f36-8ba7-a892-63187cb5871b@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <CY4PR15MB18793B615E1BF7481DD81EF1E11A0@CY4PR15MB1879.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

The other thing that frightening video led to was a whole bunch of Southwick axles that are still keeping TR4s right side up today.



Scott Barr
McCarty Law LLP
(920) 257-2233

________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:30:48 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire

Here's me removing the surrey top from that one.  Got changed from 4:3
aspect ratio to 16:9 by youtube somewhere so it's kinda wiiiide now.

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FPX82xKLZ2JE&amp;data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7Cc267d5089f76453fc02108d6e62015cd%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C636949422816367439&amp;sdata=PvNyTf8RCjx%2FSaWTBKK87NDw6x%2BFwCJz%2FwfYMZC%2FiBw%3D&amp;reserved=0

Don't have any pics of the spitfire though.

Cheers, Tony

On 5/31/2019 1:07 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote:
> I remember some of those stories from the dawn of my time in FOT. And some frightening video that led to New Blue...
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That?s Old Blue. Once owned by a guy that was in my employee.
>>
>> Jack and I pulled it out of his garage, when Jack decided to go Vintage Racing. Some great stories behind all this.
>>
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>>
>>
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.
>>>
>>> Somewhere in the Midwest?
>>>
>>> Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?
>>>
>>> Car; number? Driver? Etc?
>>>
>>> All of that can help...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Eells
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it?
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> <image1.jpeg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>>
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Wed May  1 08:53:08 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Kenneth Knight)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 07:53:08 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <002101d5002d$979cc660$c6d65320$@klaenv.com>

Hello All;

 

I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.  I am staying part
way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from
Canada.

 

The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA
get things set up.  We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don't
have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.  There
will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.
So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.

 

Cheers, Ken

 

PS;  The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm
to hot.

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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:49:48 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:49:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <002101d5002d$979cc660$c6d65320$@klaenv.com>
References: <002101d5002d$979cc660$c6d65320$@klaenv.com>
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Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry Barker?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
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Hello All;

 ?

I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.? I am staying part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from Canada.

 ?

The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA get things set up.? We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.? There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.? So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.

 ?

Cheers, Ken

 ?

PS;? The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm to hot.
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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:49:48 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:49:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <002101d5002d$979cc660$c6d65320$@klaenv.com>
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Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry Barker?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
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Hello All;

 ?

I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.? I am staying part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from Canada.

 ?

The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA get things set up.? We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.? There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.? So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.

 ?

Cheers, Ken

 ?

PS;? The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm to hot.
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed May  1 11:01:04 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 10:01:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Will be there shortly. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 1, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Jerry Barker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry Barker 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot
> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Hello All;
> 
>  
> 
> I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.  I am staying part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from Canada.
> 
>  
> 
> The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA get things set up.  We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.  There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.  So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers, Ken
> 
>  
> 
> PS;  The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm to hot.
> 
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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May  1 12:19:15 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 12:19:15 -0600
Subject: [Fot] On my way!
Message-ID: <50f925bc-4ef4-ff00-1171-68d3c9b1a65f@bradakis.com>

Got a nice little maroon Hyundai Santa Fe, should get me there.

Next email from my laptop somewhere down the road.? See some of you soon!

mjb.




From waldoracer at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 15:27:42 2019
From: waldoracer at yahoo.com (Ralf Schreyer)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 21:27:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] race spitfire rebirth
References: <785250362.3486392.1556746063315.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <785250362.3486392.1556746063315@mail.yahoo.com>

hello all, I stumbled on this F prod 64 spit on Face Book. It was built and driven by Robert Kuczek. The car last raced 1981 when it was crashed at Road America during SCCA qualifying on 1st lap at turn 1, was then placed in garage for last 38 years. It has in car 1147 bored ,020 over, forged pistons, 12:1 compression, Deves stainless rings, blueprinted block and crank, ported, polished, and flowed head, chromoly hollow pushrods, John Stanford camshaft and modified rocker arms, trap door baffled oil pan with windage tray. The motor was run 2 practice seasons and crashed then crashed. Here it is at its new home Thanks All Ralf
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Wed May  1 15:42:45 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 14:42:45 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed May  1 17:12:27 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (tony at tonydrews.com)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 19:12:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <20190501215244.021FCA182C@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <20190501191227.Horde.c351INjs2V92XxSa5SRqiFZ@tonydrews.com>

Hard to tell those enclosed trailers apart...

Tony

Quoting Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:

> Just passed in traffic by Tony Drew's outside of Barstow.? Looks like he
> is heading to BBQ.? He did not see me.? Ken
>
> Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
> On May 1, 2019 10:01 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Will be there shortly.?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 1, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Jerry Barker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry
>>> Barker?
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android[1]
>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot
>>>> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello All;
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>
>>>> I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.? I am staying
>>>> part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing
>>>> from Canada.
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>
>>>> The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help
>>>> VARA get things set up.? We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if
>>>> you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in
>>>> together.? There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for
>>>> Peter Brock and his rig.? So safe travels to everyone and see at the
>>>> track.
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Ken
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>
>>>> PS;? The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be
>>>> warm to hot.
>>>>
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Wed May  1 18:31:41 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 17:31:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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From billdentin at aol.com  Wed May  1 18:58:14 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 00:58:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
References: <1133862279.20154.1556758694610.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1133862279.20154.1556758694610@mail.yahoo.com>

Ken...
That probably impressed you because you're still traumatized by the big 2019 BLIZZARD here in Las Vegas, when we actually had sticking?snow cover?on our palm trees. ?But Canucks, like Barry are tough. ?
Not o worry!
Bill Dentinger
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Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com
 On?Wednesday, May 1, 2019,?Ken Knight via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Barry Munson and his TR 3 just arrived at RV park where I am spending night in Tehachpi.? He has driven for 3 days through a winter storm to get to the race!? Ken

Sent?from?my?Verizon?SmartphoneOn May 1, 2019 2:42 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Just passed in traffic by Tony Drew's outside of Barstow.? Looks like he is heading to BBQ.? He did not see me.? Ken

Sent?from?my?Verizon?SmartphoneOn May 1, 2019 10:01 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:



Will be there shortly.?

Sent from my iPhone
On May 1, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Jerry Barker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry Barker?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot<fot at autox.team.net> wrote:   
Hello All;

 ?

I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.? I am staying part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from Canada.

 ?

The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA get things set up.? We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.? There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.? So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.

 ?

Cheers, Ken

 ?

PS;? The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm to hot.
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Wed May  1 19:28:58 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 18:28:58 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:52:03 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:52:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Address is 11277? Hawthorne Avenue Hesperia CA 92345, phone 310 210 8649 Jerry?

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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:52:03 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:52:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Address is 11277? Hawthorne Avenue Hesperia CA 92345, phone 310 210 8649 Jerry?

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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:52:03 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:52:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Address is 11277? Hawthorne Avenue Hesperia CA 92345, phone 310 210 8649 Jerry?

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From richard.mied at nrl.navy.mil  Wed May  1 15:42:01 2019
From: richard.mied at nrl.navy.mil (Richard Mied)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 17:42:01 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire race car for sale
Message-ID: <BFF51B04-66E2-4B11-AA92-0CEC7DD930CD@nrl.navy.mil>

1962 G/P Triumph Spitfire for Sale

 



This car was never titled for the street, and has always been a racecar. It was originally raced in SCCA, where it was the Southeast regional champion for two years. It has been raced in vintage since then. Email to  <mailto:mied at nrl.navy.mil>mied at nrl.navy <mailto:mied at nrl.navy>.mil

Engine
1147 cc built by Rick Cline
High-Compression forged pistons
Forged crankshaft
Carillo rods
Cline custom grind camshaft
Mallory Luminition distributor
Roller rockers
NAS fasteners throughout

Transmission/clutch/drivetrain
Quarter Master flywheel and pressure plate
Tilton clutch
GT6 transmission
Aluminum bell housing
Summers Brothers axles
Quaiffe 4:11 differential
AMB Transponder

Body
Stock?no flares
Complete roll cage with side impact protection
Custom Cockpit cover?covers roll cage and windscreens
Panasport wheels
Fire system onboard
ATL 8 gal. Fuel cell

Instrumentation
Auto Meter 0-10,000 RPM telltale tach
Auto Meter Oil pressure, water temperature, fuel pressure
Exhaust temperature gages

Race Track Times
Mid-Ohio?1:54.3
VIR--2:34.4
Watkins Glen?2:37.0
NJ?Thunderbolt?1:44.5

Spares
Block
2 Heads
Crankshaft
Starter motor
Alternator
GT6 transmission
Driveshaft
Aluminum bell housing
Throttle cables
Welded 4:11 large-case differential
Trunk lid
2 GT6 from wheel hubs + bearings
6 Panasport wheels
2 Stub axles
Other miscellaneous parts

 
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From richard.mied at nrl.navy.mil  Wed May  1 15:28:10 2019
From: richard.mied at nrl.navy.mil (Richard Mied)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 17:28:10 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire race car for sale
Message-ID: <082371A2-6562-4315-A9F4-DF85DF26C013@nrl.navy.mil>

1962 G/P Triumph Spitfire

 


This car was never titled for the street, and has always been a racecar. It was originally raced in SCCA, where it was the Southeast regional champion for two years. It has been raced in vintage since then. Email to mied at nrl.navy.mil <mailto:mied at nrl.navy.mil>mied at nrl.navy <mailto:mied at nrl.navy>.mil

Engine
1147 cc built by Rick Cline
High-Compression forged pistons
Forged crankshaft
Carillo rods
Cline custom grind camshaft
Mallory Luminition distributor
Roller rockers
NAS fasteners throughout

Transmission/clutch/drivetrain
Quarter Master flywheel and pressure plate
Tilton clutch
GT6 transmission
Aluminum bell housing
Summers Brothers axles
Quaiffe 4:11 differential
AMB Transponder

Body
Stock?no flares
Complete roll cage with side impact protection
Custom Cockpit cover?covers roll cage and windscreens
Panasport wheels
Fire system onboard
ATL 8 gal. Fuel cell

Instrumentation
Auto Meter 0-10,000 RPM telltale tach
Auto Meter Oil pressure, water temperature, fuel pressure
Exhaust temperature gages

Race Track Times
Mid-Ohio?1:54.3
VIR--2:34.4
Watkins Glen?2:37.0
NJ?Thunderbolt?1:44.5

Spares
Block
2 Heads
Crankshaft
Starter motor
Alternator
GT6 transmission
Driveshaft
Aluminum bell housing
Throttle cables
Welded 4:11 large-case differential
Trunk lid
2 GT6 from wheel hubs + bearings
6 Panasporrt wheels
2 Stub axles
Other miscellaneous parts

 
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From waldoracer at yahoo.com  Thu May  2 14:29:50 2019
From: waldoracer at yahoo.com (Ralf Schreyer)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:29:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] rebirth 2
References: <974436064.514237.1556828990989.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <974436064.514237.1556828990989@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all, the car has stock gearbox with tailshaft stiffened on both sides and a ballistic blanket, 3.89 welded upgraded stub axles and bearings rear axles are custom? Dart axles?machined to fit spit carriers with larger bearings, frt suspension?and brakes are GT6, spares included 1 GT6 close ratio trans, 3 diffs 1 add stock 3.89, a large 4.11, 4.88, an extra Stanford cam as installed in engine, 2 bare blocks, 2 cranks, 3 cylinder heads 1 complete, 4 steel 6 x 13 wheels with junk rains, new left rocker and door to repair damage, a complete straight hood assembly, 4 new Fiberglass fender flares and wrap around front spoiler, and single axle trailer. SCCA and MCSCC log books i am pretty sure i would like to return to stock body, anybody have good set of rear Quarters reasonably close to Iowa let me know thanks to all Ralf

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From bownes at seiri.com  Thu May  2 15:15:28 2019
From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 17:15:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role
this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be
there!

Bob
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Thu May  2 20:41:36 2019
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:41:36 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>

Second that!
Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
> 
> Bob
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Thu May  2 21:47:58 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (tony at tonydrews.com)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2019 23:47:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>

It?s good to see old friends again!

Tony

Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:

> Second that!
> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> TR4 #314
> Albuquerque NM
>
>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot  
>> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in  
>> whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or  
>> marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May  2 21:48:45 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:48:45 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
 <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <1F7CBC5A-E4FA-4FD6-94F4-622737853408@gmail.com>

?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> It?s good to see old friends again!
> 
> Tony
> 
> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
> 
>> Second that!
>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>> TR4 #314
>> Albuquerque NM
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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>>> 
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>> 
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Thu May  2 21:57:32 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:57:32 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <1F7CBC5A-E4FA-4FD6-94F4-622737853408@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
 <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>
 <1F7CBC5A-E4FA-4FD6-94F4-622737853408@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28AED7AE-D282-40FA-8578-23A9CF7D86CA@gmail.com>

????????

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It?s good to see old friends again!
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
>> 
>>> Second that!
>>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>>> TR4 #314
>>> Albuquerque NM
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>>> 
>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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From afterapex at gmail.com  Thu May  2 22:07:00 2019
From: afterapex at gmail.com (greg powell)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 21:07:00 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <28AED7AE-D282-40FA-8578-23A9CF7D86CA@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
 <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>
 <1F7CBC5A-E4FA-4FD6-94F4-622737853408@gmail.com>
 <28AED7AE-D282-40FA-8578-23A9CF7D86CA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6B2E2DE-BF1D-4128-B9C7-8E87BFC38CB4@gmail.com>

It?s going to be a great weekend!
I look forward to meeting lots of Triumph, and Triumph-powered owners!!
Greg Powell
1958 Morgan +4

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

????????

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It?s good to see old friends again!
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
>> 
>>> Second that!
>>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>>> TR4 #314
>>> Albuquerque NM
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>>> 
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>>> 
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>> 
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Fri May  3 07:08:41 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Fri, 03 May 2019 06:08:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
Message-ID: <mailman.573.1638251695.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

It?is?a?gathering?of?the?Clan?Triumph!??Ken

Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
On May 2, 2019 8:57 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ????????
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > 
> > ?
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> It?s good to see old friends again!
> >> 
> >> Tony
> >> 
> >> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
> >> 
> >>> Second that!
> >>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
> >>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> >>> TR4 #314
> >>> Albuquerque NM
> >>> 
> >>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
> >>>> 
> >>>> Bob
> >>>> 
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> fot at autox.team.net
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
> >>>> 
> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>> 
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> >>> 
> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com
> >>> 
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> >> 
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> >> 
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Fri May  3 11:45:47 2019
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 12:45:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <20190503132137.358F6A1AEE@autox.team.net>
References: <20190503132137.358F6A1AEE@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <8E604073-8325-4D46-A412-6F002BAD6783@icloud.com>

Wish I was with you guys at the Cup. I couldn?t swing it this year. Next best thing for me, we brought the only Triumph to CVAR?s MSR Houston race this weekend. 

Y?all have fun. 

Greg

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Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> It?is?a?gathering?of?the?Clan?Triumph! ?Ken
> 
> Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
>> On May 2, 2019 8:57 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ????????
>> 
>> Brad Eells
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It?s good to see old friends again!
>>>> 
>>>> Tony
>>>> 
>>>> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Second that!
>>>>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>>>>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>>>>> TR4 #314
>>>>> Albuquerque NM
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Fri May  3 12:40:04 2019
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 13:40:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <8E604073-8325-4D46-A412-6F002BAD6783@icloud.com>
References: <20190503132137.358F6A1AEE@autox.team.net>
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It?s rained hard a few times in the Austin area today and I suspect it?s coming your way in Angleton (as I type this it?s over Eagle Lake and Sugarland).  A tornado passed through Fayette county this morning and wiped out a bunch of buildings including a church ? no injuries thankfully.

I wish I could have made it but the replacement pistons for the NSU still haven?t arrived.

Duncan

> On May 3, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Wish I was with you guys at the Cup. I couldn?t swing it this year. Next best thing for me, we brought the only Triumph to CVAR?s MSR Houston race this weekend. 
> 
> Y?all have fun. 
> 
> Greg
> 
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It?is?a?gathering?of?the?Clan?Triumph! ?Ken
>> 
>> Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
>>> On May 2, 2019 8:57 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ????????
>>> 
>>> Brad Eells
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It?s good to see old friends again!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tony
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Second that!
>>>>>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>>>>>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>>>>>> TR4 #314
>>>>>> Albuquerque NM
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>> 
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri May  3 13:50:24 2019
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 19:50:24 +0000
Subject: [Fot] K Cup
Message-ID: <98FC75AB-96A4-4279-8510-021D5AA3A559@mhc-law.com>

The event isn?t on race monitor anyone know why????

Sent from my iPhone

From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Sat May  4 05:49:08 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 07:49:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR4 race car
Message-ID: <008d01d5026f$62672550$27356ff0$@rogers.com>

 
<https://www.facebook.com/groups/ObscureCarsOC/permalink/2340998305962727/?s
ale_post_id=2340998305962727>
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From my71spit13 at yahoo.com  Sat May  4 15:06:18 2019
From: my71spit13 at yahoo.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 21:06:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner cup coverage
References: <2104740933.1389254.1557003978363.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I have live video on www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs?
Fyi. We will also do a live video of the Cup race and the awards...

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
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Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228


'71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude"
'72 Triumph GT6 MK3
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sun May  5 10:34:21 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 12:34:21 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner cup - who won?
Message-ID: <B500B683-E87F-4D2B-8B8E-F14CA55AC54E@me.com>

Who were the top 5?

Sent from my iPhone


From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Sun May  5 19:26:07 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 21:26:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR2 Macau
Message-ID: <001e01d503aa$ae845750$0b8d05f0$@rogers.com>

 
<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIUMPH-TR2-MACAU/303144628132?hash=item4694d3ef
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIUMPH-TR2-MACAU/303144628132?hash=item4694d3efa
4%3Ag%3ApLoAAOSw0w1czuW6&frcectupt=true&fbclid=IwAR2sHczjtAhGbjejTOPFxYancLJ
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sun May  5 19:41:23 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 18:41:23 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sun May  5 21:00:13 2019
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 21:00:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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Race results but no K Cup results?
My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> <IMG_6476.jpg>
> 
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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From billdentin at aol.com  Sun May  5 21:04:58 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 03:04:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
References: <41527139.1779795.1557111898165.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <41527139.1779795.1557111898165@mail.yahoo.com>

Tony done GOOD, finishing 5th.
Bill Dentinger

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Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com
 On?Sunday, May 5, 2019,?Greg Hilyer via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Race results but no K Cup results?
My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> <IMG_6476.jpg>
> 
> 
> Brad Eells
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From emanteno at gmail.com  Sun May  5 21:13:15 2019
From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 20:13:15 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
In-Reply-To: <A6D377AC-5D42-4798-BB31-940EB8233BB1@yahoo.com>
References: <D90B8B90-FA40-4F8D-9331-8319658DE9A7@gmail.com>
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Brian Howlett won The Cup.

On Sun, May 5, 2019, 8:00 PM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Race results but no K Cup results?
> My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> TR4 #314
> Albuquerque NM
>
> > On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > <IMG_6476.jpg>
> >
> >
> > Brad Eells
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sun May  5 21:32:26 2019
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 21:32:26 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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Looks like a 3rd in class to me!
Yay Tony!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 5, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Tony done GOOD, finishing 5th.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
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> On Sunday, May 5, 2019, Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Race results but no K Cup results?
> My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
> TR4 #314
> Albuquerque NM
> 
> > On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > <IMG_6476.jpg>
> > 
> > 
> > Brad Eells
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun May  5 21:36:46 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 20:36:46 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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Rock Solid and Flawless. Hard to beat that California Air. 

Mid-Ohio may be different. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Looks like a 3rd in class to me!
> Yay Tony!
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> TR4 #314
> Albuquerque NM
> 
>> On May 5, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Tony done GOOD, finishing 5th.
>> 
>> Bill Dentinger
>> 
>> 
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>> On Sunday, May 5, 2019, Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Race results but no K Cup results?
>> My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
>> TR4 #314
>> Albuquerque NM
>> 
>> > On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > <IMG_6476.jpg>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Brad Eells
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sun May  5 21:46:15 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 20:46:15 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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[image: BCE_0002 (Large) (2).JPG]
*Brad Eells*
*Chino CA*
*#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3*
*#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4*
*1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!*




On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:13 PM Irv Korey <emanteno at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian Howlett won The Cup.
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019, 8:00 PM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Race results but no K Cup results?
>> My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>> TR4 #314
>> Albuquerque NM
>>
>> > On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Sun May  5 23:06:05 2019
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 01:06:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR2 build dates
Message-ID: <0F192220-C6F2-46E4-A76B-621438FA02D8@columbus.rr.com>

TS 5433 O, TR2 ENGINE TS 5723E

Looking for a build date of a TR2 with an Engine Number around TS 5999 E

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon May  6 00:42:11 2019
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 08:42:11 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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References: <D90B8B90-FA40-4F8D-9331-8319658DE9A7@gmail.com>
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Yep, that 595 car looks very fast laptime wise.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Brad Eells via Fot
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Mai 2019 05:46
An: Irv Korey <emanteno at gmail.com>
Cc: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results

 



Brad Eells

Chino CA

#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3

#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4

1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!



 

 

 

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:13 PM Irv Korey <emanteno at gmail.com <mailto:emanteno at gmail.com> > wrote:

Brian Howlett won The Cup. 

 

On Sun, May 5, 2019, 8:00 PM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Race results but no K Cup results?
My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon May  6 03:05:17 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 05:05:17 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
In-Reply-To: <D90B8B90-FA40-4F8D-9331-8319658DE9A7@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <009001d503ea$d3bf5520$7b3dff60$@rogers.com>

Although I understand that John Mueller was driving the TR8 instead of Joe
Huffaker. A last minute switch of driver was reported. A great finish in
honor of his father's racing successes.

Also a great finish for Wedges!

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Eells via
Fot
Sent: May 5, 2019 9:41 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results






From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon May  6 06:49:53 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 12:49:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR2 build dates
In-Reply-To: <0F192220-C6F2-46E4-A76B-621438FA02D8@columbus.rr.com>
References: <0F192220-C6F2-46E4-A76B-621438FA02D8@columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1281783160.747310.1557146993539@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hi Tom.? My TR-2 is TS 7158 L and was built on July 7, 1955.
Jack

    On Monday, May 6, 2019, 1:06:29 AM EDT, Tom Householder via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 TS 5433 O, TR2 ENGINE TS 5723E
Looking for a build date of a TR2 with an Engine Number around TS 5999 E
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Mon May  6 11:11:08 2019
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 10:11:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] KCup thanks and congratulations
Message-ID: <1705684210.193648.1557162669274@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello Friends,

Thanks to everyone who helped put together a great weekend of racing.  It was a very healthy turnout of Triumphs.

What a great group!  Ken did an excellent job of taking good care of us in a well organized fashion.  Joe Siam Too.

Buttonwillow is a very fun track.  I was a little slow at getting up to speed, but I improved my lap times by over 9 seconds from my last practice session on Friday to the all British race on Sunday.  If only the KCup was run on Sunday.  I ran 2:22s during the Kastner Cup race and 2:17s during the British race on Sunday, finishing 9th of 27.  

I had a little problem with my TR3 for the first time in it's 17 events.  It would not rev over 5,500 rpm beginning on Friday, although once I figured out a good flow of the track, I was really having a blast.  

On Friday, I had my first spin and thanks to Walt Hollowell's efforts, I was lucky not to collect anyone or hit the only wall at Buttonwillow.  Walt was a couple feet from hitting me in the driver door and I floored the throttle to keep the car rotating out of his way.  The 360 spin ended a couple feet from a tire barrier still on pavement.  

Congratulations to Brian Howlett.  His Kastner Cup win was well deserved.  He was really flying in his TR4.  Unfortunately, he didn't fair as well in his Morgan during the Sunday British race.  A lap after he passed me, his car broke an axle right in front of me in the esses.  A wild series of spins followed.  

Stay tuned for videos.

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From john at linneyweb.com  Mon May  6 13:31:48 2019
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 12:31:48 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Racers
Message-ID: <FFB2F261-4EFC-4AA2-BAE4-2217335BC48C@linneyweb.com>

Thanks to all the racers that gave me SD Cards after the race on Saturday. The footage is awesome and will really help tell the story.

To those who ran GoPros and were unaware that I am putting together a video telling the story of the race ? It?s not too late to have your footage included. Just respond to this email and I?ll send you a link where you can upload the video - or an address to mail your SD card (I will pay postage both ways!) If you have video from trackside I would love that too. 

This is very much a passion project, and all those who provide footage will get a special mention in the credits. I had such a great time watching history being made and would like to especially thank Joe Alexander for giving me the opportunity to meet and work with such a great group of people. Also a shout-out to Cregg Cowan who did such a professional job with the other camera. 

I?m just starting to wade through hundreds of Gigabytes of footage and will let this group know as soon as something is ready to release.

Many thanks ? john

Email or 408 887 8105 if you have questions.





From kknight at klaenv.com  Mon May  6 15:08:24 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Mon, 06 May 2019 14:08:24 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Racers
Message-ID: <mailman.574.1638251695.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

John, I just got home and unloaded.? I have not had time to check my GoPro, but I will tomorrow.? I may have some good footage of first few laps until my car broke.? Ken

Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
On May 6, 2019 12:31 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks to all the racers that gave me SD Cards after the race on Saturday. The footage is awesome and will really help tell the story.
>
> To those who ran GoPros and were unaware that I am putting together a video telling the story of the race ? It?s not too late to have your footage included. Just respond to this email and I?ll send you a link where you can upload the video - or an address to mail your SD card (I will pay postage both ways!) If you have video from trackside I would love that too.
>
> This is very much a passion project, and all those who provide footage will get a special mention in the credits. I had such a great time watching history being made and would like to especially thank Joe Alexander for giving me the opportunity to meet and work with such a great group of people. Also a shout-out to Cregg Cowan who did such a professional job with the other camera.
>
> I?m just starting to wade through hundreds of Gigabytes of footage and will let this group know as soon as something is ready to release.
>
> Many thanks ? john
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon May  6 15:46:13 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 14:46:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Performance Awards
Message-ID: <0F26B0D5-75D2-480F-A7D0-F0E78C0965E3@gmail.com>


Kas and all,

I have 3 of Peggy?s Performance Awards. I need the names to send them

Thank you. 

Joe Alexander

Sent from my iPhone

From john at linneyweb.com  Mon May  6 17:19:01 2019
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 16:19:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Racers
In-Reply-To: <20190506212159.647D3A15C4@autox.team.net>
References: <20190506212159.647D3A15C4@autox.team.net>
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Thanks Ken - That would be great. I really appreciate it! -john

> On May 6, 2019, at 2:08 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> John, I just got home and unloaded.  I have not had time to check my GoPro, but I will tomorrow.  I may have some good footage of first few laps until my car broke.  Ken
> 
> Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
> On May 6, 2019 12:31 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks to all the racers that gave me SD Cards after the race on Saturday. The footage is awesome and will really help tell the story.
>> 
>> To those who ran GoPros and were unaware that I am putting together a video telling the story of the race ? It?s not too late to have your footage included. Just respond to this email and I?ll send you a link where you can upload the video - or an address to mail your SD card (I will pay postage both ways!) If you have video from trackside I would love that too.
>> 
>> This is very much a passion project, and all those who provide footage will get a special mention in the credits. I had such a great time watching history being made and would like to especially thank Joe Alexander for giving me the opportunity to meet and work with such a great group of people. Also a shout-out to Cregg Cowan who did such a professional job with the other camera.
>> 
>> I?m just starting to wade through hundreds of Gigabytes of footage and will let this group know as soon as something is ready to release.
>> 
>> Many thanks ? john
>> 
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From mark at bradakis.com  Mon May  6 22:16:45 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 22:16:45 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Home again
Message-ID: <f718f490-33f5-71d8-16ba-fa5c42f5a456@bradakis.com>

2,014 miles. 5 days, 8 hours.

That's an average of 15.7 mph for my vacation.? I'm tired, but glad to 
be home.



More after a beer and a shot, perhaps a nap.



mjb.





From koblinger at verizon.net  Mon May  6 23:31:50 2019
From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 22:31:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Photos
Message-ID: <b6eca514-2709-1316-db1a-b16abaf8bb50@verizon.net>

Amici,

First off, a round of thanks to all those involved in making the Kastner 
Cup a great event. This was the first time I was able to attend and it 
was better than I hoped. Great cars, drivers and racing.

Racing photography has been my thing for 40 or so years now, so here is 
my contribution to the effort. The link below should take you to a 
Google Album of photos. I tried to get at least one shot of each triumph 
on track, although I expect I managed to miss a couple. If the link is 
not clickable, try cutting and pasting into your browser.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/PZKNjUjSNbLbE3216

Cheers,

Kurt Oblinger



From mark at bradakis.com  Tue May  7 21:57:42 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 21:57:42 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2019
Message-ID: <740968b6-56f5-5ae1-40fa-9de82fa7cdf3@bradakis.com>

Fun weekend.? I did a lot of driving, got to see Death Valley for the 
first time, I drove through some pretty desolate country during the 
course of the trip.? Enterprise gave me a nice discount since they 
messed up on the Sirius XM radio request.

I was bummed I forgot the chairs I meant to bring, with my hip the way 
it is I can't stand or walk too long, need to rest often. Also bummed I 
didn't tape up that poster I brought.? It was from the 2002 Mid Ohio 
Triumph event, a reminder of the location of next year's Cup event.? I 
set it on a table when I got there, got sidetracked and it disappeared.? 
Oh well, hope whoever took it left behind a donation to the cause.

Got to see some great people, some great cars.? Kind of surprised how 
few pictures there are on my phone of the event.? DId get a short video 
of the beginning of the first lap of the race, with John Mueller in the 
TR8 leading the way.? Brian Howlett's 4A is way faster than a 4 banger 
should be, like Barker's Herald.

The weekend got me inspired, I HAVE to get a running Triumph in my life 
this summer.? A bigger goal. of course, would be getting the Killer Spit 
back on track and entered in an upcoming Kastner Cup event.

We shall see.

mjb.




From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed May  8 07:59:22 2019
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 06:59:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] [TR] TR2 build dates
In-Reply-To: <CANzE1bGT-wSi28j5hkLw62g1d9U_+eHXrQFsxY5w-U5LOPPiVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0F192220-C6F2-46E4-A76B-621438FA02D8@columbus.rr.com>
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Message-ID: <372771265.972.1557323963165@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello All,

I saw these build date inquiries and thought I'd chime in.

I have a longdoor TR2 built in June 14 of '54.  TS2172LO, engine TS2313E.  

Dave H.

> On May 6, 2019 at 10:26 AM Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 10:06 PM Tom Householder < trhouse at columbus.rr.com mailto:trhouse at columbus.rr.com > wrote:
> 
>         > >         TS 5433 O, TR2 ENGINE TS 5723E
> > 
> >     > 
>     Is this the 'Harrahs' TR2?
> 
>     Geo 
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Wed May  8 13:58:59 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (PAUL MACDONALD)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 19:58:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Herald
References: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>

Someone was looking for a Herald
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/1432680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true


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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Wed May  8 14:10:06 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 13:10:06 -0700
Subject: [Fot] A Great FOT Weekend
Message-ID: <CACZdCPWAHceghr5DxtOToSnbGjGpEVhRY-KYd68jOGojcRAqZw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Amici,

I just wanted to express what a great time we had with all of you at
Kastner Cup. While my racing weekend was cut short by a number of self
inflicted ills, the company and surrounding events were fantastic starting
at Jerry and Jan Barker's home on Wednesday.

Mordy Dunst is an amazing chef and host among all of his other skills. He
managed to win the Union Jack Challenge race on Sunday going away as well.

Many have supported my quest to get the former Doug Brown Spitfire back on
the track after it's 43 year nap. I thank all of you for that.

Kas among all his other duties and commitments took the time to teach me
spark plugs, carb float levels and mixture settings. I saw my first fouled
plug on Friday!

We learned lots and will learn more as we now have a bit of breathing space
to the next event.

Thanks again Amici! What a great event...Mid Ohio 2020 anyone??

Cheers,


*Brad Eells*
*Chino CA*
*#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3*
*#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4*
*1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!*
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From rick.parent at att.net  Wed May  8 14:51:17 2019
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 20:51:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Herald
In-Reply-To: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <475376075.1773311.1557348677301@mail.yahoo.com>

 Yeah, that would be me and I would take in a second except it's a little to far away, 2590 miles to be exact, thanks for thinking of me.
    On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 3:59:07 PM EDT, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Someone was looking for a Herald
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/1432680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true


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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May  8 15:15:15 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 15:15:15 -0600
Subject: [Fot] A Great FOT Weekend
In-Reply-To: <CACZdCPWAHceghr5DxtOToSnbGjGpEVhRY-KYd68jOGojcRAqZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACZdCPWAHceghr5DxtOToSnbGjGpEVhRY-KYd68jOGojcRAqZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <077a6a38-04e4-a8da-7453-f931b516e92f@bradakis.com>

On 5/8/19 2:10 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote:
> Hello Amici,
>
> I just wanted to express what a great time we had with all of you at 
> Kastner Cup. While my racing weekend was cut short by a number of self 
> inflicted ills, the company and surrounding events were fantastic 
> starting at Jerry and Jan Barker's home on Wednesday.
>
> Mordy Dunst is an amazing chef and host among all of his other skills. 
> He managed to win the Union Jack Challenge race on Sunday going away 
> as well.
>
> Many have supported my quest to get the former Doug Brown Spitfire 
> back on the track after it's 43 year nap. I thank all of you for that.
>
> Kas among all his other duties and commitments took the time to teach 
> me spark plugs, carb float levels and mixture settings. I saw my first 
> fouled plug on Friday!
>
> We learned lots and will learn more as we now have a bit of breathing 
> space to the next event.
>
> Thanks again Amici! What a great event...Mid Ohio 2020 anyone??


Yes, a great weekend, wish I had remembered the BBQ was Wednesday, not 
Thursday.? I am planning on Mid Ohio next year. May fly into 
Indianapolis to visit an old friend, drive to the track from there.? 
Think it will be the first time I make 2 in a row, if it happens.

On a side note, one comment I got several times during the weekend was 
how much people appreciated the new and much improved response time for 
list emails.? You can actually carry on a conversation now, without 
waiting hours for a response.

mjb.




From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Wed May  8 15:17:16 2019
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 14:17:16 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Herald
References: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>
 <475376075.1773311.1557348677301@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C5FE6AD59211433C9146D7A74500C37D@Charly>

Only a couple of hundred miles away for me if you want me to pick it up for you.  I could store it until you get it figured out.

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rick Parent via Fot 
  To: FOT Triumph ; PAUL MACDONALD 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 1:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald


  Yeah, that would be me and I would take in a second except it's a little to far away, 2590 miles to be exact, thanks for thinking of me.


  On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 3:59:07 PM EDT, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 




  Someone was looking for a Herald


  https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/1432680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true





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From billsohl at optonline.net  Wed May  8 18:46:52 2019
From: billsohl at optonline.net (Sohl)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 20:46:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Herald
In-Reply-To: <C5FE6AD59211433C9146D7A74500C37D@Charly>
References: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>
 <475376075.1773311.1557348677301@mail.yahoo.com>
 <C5FE6AD59211433C9146D7A74500C37D@Charly>
Message-ID: <953998902.404949.1557362812882@mymail.optimum.net>

Charly,

I have a 1961 Herald, minimum rust, convertible, dry stored for last 20 years. Car is located in Northwest, NJ. I am listing it at $2000 or best offer. Up for sale is also a 1981 TR-8 Convertible, bordeaux red/tan top. If anyone is interested please email me. Cheers, Bill
?

> On May 8, 2019 at 5:17 PM Charly Mitchel via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>     Only a couple of hundred miles away for me if you want me to pick it up for you.  I could store it until you get it figured out.
>      
>     Charly Mitchel
>     TR6 #44
>     ----- Original Message -----
> 
>         > >         From: Rick Parent via Fot mailto:fot at autox.team.net
> >         To: FOT Triumph mailto:fot at autox.team.net ; PAUL MACDONALD mailto:macdonaldp at rogers.com
> >         Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 1:51 PM
> >         Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald
> > 
> >         Yeah, that would be me and I would take in a second except it's a little to far away, 2590 miles to be exact, thanks for thinking of me.
> > 
> >         On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 3:59:07 PM EDT, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >         Someone was looking for a Herald
> > 
> >         https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/1432680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
> > 
> > 
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From rodkent at cox.net  Wed May  8 22:06:24 2019
From: rodkent at cox.net (CHARLES KENT)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 00:06:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <1345463444.16754.1557374784537@myemail.cox.net>

Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Thu May  9 04:40:20 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 06:40:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Herald
Message-ID: <000001d50653$9a40ae00$cec20a00$@rogers.com>

Someone was looking for a Herald.

 

 
<https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/143
2680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true>
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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Thu May  9 16:26:50 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 18:26:50 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling
Message-ID: <CAMJWJcHaAZTrfDcvyPLWgo4vt9Pf=8afzf9X=RE5Qo37v8zWfw@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone have any experience with installation of an electric water pump on
the TR wet sleeve engine??    Having trouble with temperature control on
the Davies Craig 115 pump and controller kit I installed on my TR3.  Flow
rate is advertised at 115 liters/minute.     Thanks
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From billdentin at aol.com  Fri May 10 10:47:04 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 16:47:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
References: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404@mail.yahoo.com>

Rod & Dale...
Good for you.? With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.? Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.? Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.? Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows. ?
Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.? Start making plans.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

 Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of? true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.? I want to say in closing? we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.? Rod and Dale Kent _______________________________________________
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri May 10 11:56:01 2019
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 17:56:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
Regards,Bob LangTR6's

    On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Rod & Dale...
Good for you.? With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.? Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.? Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.? Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows. ?
Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.? Start making plans.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

 Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of? true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.? I want to say in closing? we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.? Rod and Dale Kent _______________________________________________
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Fri May 10 12:41:51 2019
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 18:41:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling
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Message-ID: <278446680.485957.1557513711211@mail.yahoo.com>

Might be too much flow? ?

MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2
 On?Thursday, May 9, 2019,?John Styduhar via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Anyone have any experience with installation of an electric water pump on the TR wet sleeve engine??? ? Having trouble with temperature control on the Davies Craig 115 pump and controller kit I installed on my TR3.? Flow rate is advertised at 115 liters/minute.? ? ?Thanks_______________________________________________
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri May 10 16:27:01 2019
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 22:27:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <33FFBFA2-598C-4156-B7A1-EB545C176C71@icloud.com>
References: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1374457227.458269.1557506824404@mail.yahoo.com>
 <272324085.2620635.1557510961109@mail.yahoo.com>
 <33FFBFA2-598C-4156-B7A1-EB545C176C71@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <340024053.2729039.1557527221340@mail.yahoo.com>

 The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.
We'd love to see you there!
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:  
 
 All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


 Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
Regards,Bob LangTR6's

    On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Rod & Dale...
Good for you.? With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.? Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.? Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.? Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows. ?
Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.? Start making plans.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

 Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of? true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.? I want to say in closing? we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.? Rod and Dale Kent _______________________________________________
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 10 16:43:05 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 17:43:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup. Mid-Ohio 2020
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 <340024053.2729039.1557527221340@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9F95B48B-ACA0-436F-AEB7-04B1A380ACC0@gmail.com>

Just rolled in from Buttonwillow.

We will make a more formal announcement in a few days.

I am taking a nap right now. 

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.
> 
> We'd love to see you there!
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> 
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
>> 
>> FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bob Lang
>> TR6's
>> 
>> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Rod & Dale...
>> 
>> Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
>> 
>> Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
>> 
>> When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.  
>> 
>> Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.
>> 
>> Bill Dentinger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
>> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
>> 
>> Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri May 10 16:47:43 2019
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 22:47:43 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup. Mid-Ohio 2020
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It?s June 20-23 this year, SVRA event

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Just rolled in from Buttonwillow.

We will make a more formal announcement in a few days.

I am taking a nap right now.

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On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.

We'd love to see you there!

Regards,
Bob Lang

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com<mailto:gblake58tr3 at icloud.com>> wrote:


All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.

FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.

Regards,
Bob Lang
TR6's

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Rod & Dale...

Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).

Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.

When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.

Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.

Bill Dentinger



-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From dbm.spitfire at gmail.com  Fri May 10 17:47:56 2019
From: dbm.spitfire at gmail.com (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 19:47:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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For reference, the 2019 date is 21-23 June.

On Fri, May 10, 2019, 6:27 PM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each
> year.
>
> We'd love to see you there!
>
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <
> gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:
>
>
> All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at
> least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond)
> and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
>
> FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking
> forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July
> with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> TR6's
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Rod & Dale...
>
> Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect
> for our cars).
>
> Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I
> had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that
> one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen
> hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked
> it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
>
> When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.
> Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.
>
> Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.
>
> Bill Dentinger
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
>
> Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are
> charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we
> would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast
> race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now
> and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so
> many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember
> my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our
> 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly
> copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it
> put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in
> early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting
> John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and
> lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where
> he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also
> high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a
> nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced
> with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate
> racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great
> time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward
> to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Fri May 10 18:52:29 2019
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 19:52:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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It?s only 18hrs 53minutes from Austin. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang <robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.
> 
> We'd love to see you there!
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> 
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
>> 
>> FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bob Lang
>> TR6's
>> 
>> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Rod & Dale...
>> 
>> Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
>> 
>> Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
>> 
>> When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.  
>> 
>> Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.
>> 
>> Bill Dentinger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
>> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
>> 
>> Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri May 10 20:08:02 2019
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 02:08:02 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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6 hrs 30 min from Charlotte

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

It?s only 18hrs 53minutes from Austin.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang <robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com<mailto:robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com>> wrote:

The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.

We'd love to see you there!

Regards,
Bob Lang

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com<mailto:gblake58tr3 at icloud.com>> wrote:


All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.

FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.

Regards,
Bob Lang
TR6's

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Rod & Dale...

Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).

Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.

When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.

Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.

Bill Dentinger



-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Sat May 11 04:58:40 2019
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 10:58:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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 google maps says 10 hours for me, but I usually make stops at Hoosier Tire East to talk about tire compounds and pick up a few and then also seem to get distracted by the Summit Racing facility near Akron where I walk around the showroom dazed for an hour or so before picking up some doo-dads and racing stuff... I think the shortest time for me from Massachusetts to MidOhio has been like 14 hours. But it is so worth it.
l8r.Bob Lang

    On Friday, May 10, 2019, 10:08:06 PM EDT, John H. Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com> wrote:  
 
 6 hrs 30 min from Charlotte

Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


It?s only 18hrs 53minutes from Austin.?

Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang <robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com> wrote:


The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.
We'd love to see you there!
Regards,Bob Lang

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:

All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
Regards,Bob LangTR6's

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Rod & Dale...
Good for you.? With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.? Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.? Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.? Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows. ?
Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.? Start making plans.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of? true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.? I want to say in closing? we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.? Rod and Dale Kent_______________________________________________
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sat May 11 07:21:48 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 08:21:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] The Kastner Cup. A Ken Knight Production
Message-ID: <7209FA77-6B64-4EFE-B1E8-238DFFE0AB13@gmail.com>

FOT

Many thanks to Ken Knight to taking this event on as Chair.

It is always a much bigger job than anyone imagines.

It was a huge success and the success will be felt for months and years to come.

Thank you Ken & Terri Knight.

Now onto to Mid-Ohio.

Joe Alexander
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Fri May 10 13:58:21 2019
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 14:58:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <272324085.2620635.1557510961109@mail.yahoo.com>
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All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
> 
> FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> TR6's
> 
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Rod & Dale...
> 
> Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
> 
> Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
> 
> When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.  
> 
> Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
> 
> Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun May 12 06:43:21 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 07:43:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FOT Logo Decals
Message-ID: <BE0AD75A-5426-4FD2-8749-EC7BC097D8BC@gmail.com>

FOT:

Folks were asking.

We ran off 100 decals. They are about 3 x 5 as before.

Four for $10.00 minimum order.
$2.50 each for additional.

PayPal or Check.

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Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sun May 12 08:48:10 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 07:48:10 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FOT Logo Decals
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These are very nice stickers. The die cut has much less white border than the previous version...

Thanks for making them Joe!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> FOT:
> 
> Folks were asking.
> 
> We ran off 100 decals. They are about 3 x 5 as before.
> 
> Four for $10.00 minimum order.
> $2.50 each for additional.
> 
> PayPal or Check.
> 
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun May 12 09:07:32 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 10:07:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FOT Logo Decals
In-Reply-To: <7D92E33B-EC9A-4E3F-A7D3-F3F54C09756F@gmail.com>
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Thank you Brad.

Orders are coming in.

We can do larger sized decals to special order. (After I catch up from the Kastner Cup).

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 12, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Brad Eells <tr4abrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> These are very nice stickers. The die cut has much less white border than the previous version...
> 
> Thanks for making them Joe!
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> FOT:
>> 
>> Folks were asking.
>> 
>> We ran off 100 decals. They are about 3 x 5 as before.
>> 
>> Four for $10.00 minimum order.
>> $2.50 each for additional.
>> 
>> PayPal or Check.
>> 
>> <image1.jpeg>
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>> 
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>> 


From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun May 12 09:29:41 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 10:29:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Performance Awards.  Need Addresses
In-Reply-To: <CAGiQU1DVKmjmNk_X8em5cvk+zWF6S-zjJhitbWoTH7TEhDVC5g@mail.gmail.com>
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FOT:

We have Three Performance Awards.....they are beautiful and a tribute to Peggy.

DALE WALLACE.   TR6.  #66

RANDY RYDEN.   GT6?   #66

???????



I need addresses to send these.

I need the third name. Perhaps it is on video record. Please help. I fell down on the job. I could be fired for this.

Thanks,

Joe Alexander

> 
> the TR-6 guy number 66 is one, that is Dale wallace, Randy Ryden  the GT-6 #66, i do not know who the third might have been. 
> Never be beaten by equipment.
> 
> 
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From jhassall at gmail.com  Sun May 12 09:55:59 2019
From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 11:55:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Performance Awards. Need Addresses
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Wow, that award is awesome.  Peggy would be proud.

jim

On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 11:30 AM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> FOT:
>
> We have Three Performance Awards.....they are beautiful and a tribute to
> Peggy.
>
> DALE WALLACE.   TR6.  #66
>
> RANDY RYDEN.   GT6?   #66
>
> ???????
>
> [image: image1.jpeg]
>
> I need addresses to send these.
>
> I need the third name. Perhaps it is on video record. Please help. I fell
> down on the job. I could be fired for this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Alexander
>
>
> the TR-6 guy number 66 is one, that is Dale wallace, Randy Ryden  the GT-6
> #66, i do not know who the third might have been.
>
> *Never be beaten by equipment.*
>
>
>
>
>>
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From pvucinic at netspace.net.au  Sun May 12 19:15:48 2019
From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 11:15:48 +1000
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling
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Hi John,

Went through that many years ago. Could never get it to function properly on my TR4. Gave up in the end is it was all way too hard and complicated. Engine always ran hot no matter what I did. I had an electronic controller which gave variable speed to the pump unit. But that didn?t make any difference in my case.

 

 

Cheers

 

 

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Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR4 - TR7 V8 - Spitfire MkII

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Styduhar via Fot
Sent: Friday, 10 May 2019 8:27 AM
To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling

 

Anyone have any experience with installation of an electric water pump on the TR wet sleeve engine??    Having trouble with temperature control on the Davies Craig 115 pump and controller kit I installed on my TR3.  Flow rate is advertised at 115 liters/minute.     Thanks

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From mdporter at dfn.com  Sun May 12 21:13:13 2019
From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 21:13:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling
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On 5/12/2019 7:15 PM, Peter Vucinic via Fot wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Went through that many years ago. Could never get it to function 
> properly on my TR4. Gave up in the end is it was all way too hard and 
> complicated. Engine always ran hot no matter what I did. I had an 
> electronic controller which gave variable speed to the pump unit. But 
> that didn?t make any difference in my case.
>

Unfortunately, pumps are almost always rated by their flow rate through 
an open orifice, and one has to figure in the pumping losses through the 
engine.? So, if an engine produces x amount of heat per minute, then the 
actual flow rate, given the specific heat of water, has to be able to 
remove x amount of heat per minute.? A cast-iron engine with lots of 
rusty-crusties in the passages is certainly going to have a flow rate a 
fair amount lower than an open orifice (not that those rusty-crusties 
aren't important--heat transfer off of rusty cast iron is higher than 
with any other metal because of the surface area).

The other big problem with pumps is that one needs to know their flow at 
specific head pressures, because without the pump being able to build 
pressure and still move fluid, hot-running engines will inevitably 
succumb to nucleate boiling and overheat.

In theory, one could have an electric pump that's more efficient than a 
mechanical one, in the same way that electric fans, with the maximum 
efficiency blade pitch matched to the motor rpm, are more efficient than 
engine-driven fans.? However, I suspect that the makers of the kits out 
there are assembling them from the parts available, not engineering them 
to requirements.


Cheers.

-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


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From fmccjr at aol.com  Mon May 13 05:17:13 2019
From: fmccjr at aol.com (Rick McCurdy)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 07:17:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
References: <D48C54F7-30AA-41D7-B397-9B96A9438EEE.ref@aol.com>
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Some of you may have heard about a New Yorkers? attempt to get to the 
K Cup last weekend, but here?s the skinny:

After long weeks of long days, I finished repairing bodywork from when I smacked the wall backwards at the Canadian Vintage Gran Prix at Mosport last June, and the car reassembled (just) in time to depart New York?s Hudson Valley on Sunday morning,  April 28. Of course, the one thing I didn?t have time to do before loading was to get the car running. Since I was planning on passing through Dayton, I called a long time Sunbeam club friend and asked for help. (How tough is it to get a tractor engine to run?!) Doug Jennings, who owned Tiger Auto in Dayton for decades before retiring a few years ago was the perfect choice.

I arrived at Doug?s around 8:30, had a quick bite of his wife?s (wonderful!) Lasagna, and winched the car into his garage to get the tr3 started. 3 hours later, nothing. Bupkis. Nada. We could not get the car to even cough using starting fluid! New plugs the next morning didn?t matter. The car would. not. start. 

I left Dayton for home sometime after noon the next day, an unhappy camper. Disappointing as it was, there still is no sense in dragging a dead race car to California and back. So, I went home. 

There is spark, fuel and (barely)compression. When I got home I took it to another Brit car friend who owns a shop and offered to give it a look. We measured an average 105 lbs for comp (it should have done SOMETHING!) and timing was judged to be correct. What we did not do was a leak down test. I don?t know why we didn?t think of that before removing the head... Where the heck is mine when I need it?!

Head removal revealed some scoring of the walls, ugly corrosion in the chambers, but nothing blatant. When I crashed last year, apparently the top rad hose popped off the spout and water was introduced into the intake. Who knew!? I hit the wall backwards after rounding turn 10, and the little birdies were flying around the little stars before I shut down the motor and gingerly extricated myself from the car. I didn?t know for 6 more weeks that I had a handful of broken vertebrae (thank you, HANS device..!), now fully repaired with the neurosurgeons approval to race, by the way. I discovered the water evidence when I had to remove the manifolds to weld up the ripped exhaust collector. Inside the ports were rust remains that definitely should not have been there- and the starter didn?t spin the motor until I pulled plugs, squirted WD-40 into the cyls and bumped the started button until it loosened up and spun freely. 
Next season, when the water is drained for winter, it will get the cylinders lubricated! That is, when I finally get the darn thing to run...

My big adventure was a bust. Bummed I missed it (a good one, from all the great comments!), bummed I didn?t get to see west coast friends, but still determined to be at Mid-Ohio next year!

Since I?ve had the head and manifolds off a number of times, it?s time for a new gaskets (both head and manifold). The solid copper gasket worked great, but took me at least three tries to get it to seal after the prev head gasket failed at the ?17 Lime Rock Historics. I ended up using silicone ll. It worked, but it?s messy and unorthodox.

So, does anyone have a suggestion for replacement gaskets? I?m not trying to be a frontrunner, I just crave reliability at this point- a weekend where I can drive off the trailer, race, and drive back on the trailer with nothing broken or suspect. Just once!

Down, but not out. Yours truly,

Rick McCurdy
Newburgh, NY

I know... I know, I waited a long time to work on the car, but I was working on restoring a friends big Healey, and that had priority. It?s beautiful, but took much longer than anticipated. Just call me ?Mr. Vertical Learning Curve?!
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Mon May 13 07:19:38 2019
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 08:19:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Mid-Ohio Kastner Cup 2020
Message-ID: <86F0132F-E61A-4683-ADF7-409D251A4263@cs.com>

FOT:

We started going to M-O in 1992. The SVRA event in June has ALWAYS been the week after Father?s Day Weekend. I don?t expect that to change.

An additional feature of this schedule is that the Black Hawk Classic is ALWAYS on Father?s Day Weekend. It is possible to run back to back weekends. (Uncle Jack and I did, once.)

I hope to meet with SVRA next weekend, but that has not been set. Casual planning has been ongoing for a year, now we will step up the activity.

More later,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon May 13 07:38:29 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 08:38:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Regalia Type Stuff
Message-ID: <1DAC0890-0406-4348-AD62-E348DDF00B7B@gmail.com>

Just a reminder:

Kas? Hard Copy Books. We have three out of the four books. ?MYTHS? is gone forever, except on digital on Kas? Website.

The Three Pack of Books is $80 including shipping....while they last.  PayPal or Check.  N197tr4 at cs.com

People are ordering the 3 x 5 FOT Decal. I had 100 made. Down to about 50.  Four for $10 including postage. $2.50 each beyond that.  PayPay or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com

The award winning Steve Belfer Kastner Cup Posters are essentially all gone. If there were enough interest, I could do a short run of the limited edition 17 x 11 heavy bond paper. Maybe 25? Kind of a pain, but I don?t mind. These posters are very collectible. And Hobby Lobby has a great glass frame for under $10.00. Let me know.

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
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The-vintage-racer.com
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From billdentin at aol.com  Mon May 13 08:58:47 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 14:58:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
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Good for you, Rick. ?
Just another one of us unstoppable...tenacious Triumph merry masochists...down, but not out!
I am proud of you. ?
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick McCurdy via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, May 13, 2019 4:17 am
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.

Some of you may have heard about a New Yorkers? attempt to get to the?K Cup last weekend, but here?s the skinny:
After long weeks of long days, I finished repairing bodywork from when I smacked the wall backwards at the Canadian Vintage Gran Prix at Mosport last June, and the car reassembled (just) in time to depart New York?s Hudson Valley on Sunday morning, ?April 28. Of course, the one thing I didn?t have?time to do before loading was to get the car running. Since I was planning on passing through Dayton, I called a long time Sunbeam club friend and asked for help. (How tough is it to get a tractor engine to run?!) Doug Jennings, who owned Tiger Auto in Dayton for decades before retiring a few years ago was the perfect choice.

I arrived at Doug?s around 8:30, had a quick bite of his wife?s (wonderful!) Lasagna, and winched the car into his garage to get the tr3 started. 3 hours later, nothing. Bupkis. Nada. We could not get the car to even cough using starting fluid! New plugs the next morning didn?t matter. The car would. not. start.?

I left Dayton for home sometime after noon the next day, an unhappy camper. Disappointing as it was, there still is no sense in dragging a dead race car to California and back. So, I went home.?

There is spark, fuel and (barely)compression. When I got home I took it to another Brit car friend who owns a shop and offered to give it a look. We measured an average 105 lbs for comp (it should have done SOMETHING!) and timing was judged to be correct. What we did not do was a leak down test. I don?t know why we didn?t think of that before removing the head... Where the heck is mine when I need it?!

Head removal revealed some scoring of the walls, ugly corrosion in the chambers, but nothing blatant. When I crashed last year, apparently the top rad hose popped off the spout and water was introduced into the intake. Who knew!? I hit the wall backwards after rounding turn 10, and the little birdies were flying around the little stars before I shut down the motor and gingerly extricated myself from the car. I didn?t know for 6 more weeks that I had a handful of broken vertebrae (thank you, HANS device..!), now fully repaired with the neurosurgeons approval to race, by the way. I discovered the water evidence when I had to remove the manifolds to weld up the ripped exhaust collector. Inside the ports were rust remains that definitely should not have been there- and the starter didn?t spin the motor until I pulled plugs, squirted WD-40 into the cyls and bumped the started button until it loosened up and spun freely.?Next season, when the water is drained for winter, it will get the cylinders lubricated! That is, when I finally get the darn thing to run...

My big adventure was a bust. Bummed I missed it (a good one, from all the great comments!), bummed I didn?t get to see west coast friends, but still determined to be at Mid-Ohio next year!
Since I?ve had the head and manifolds off a number of times, it?s time for a new gaskets (both head and manifold). The solid copper gasket worked great, but took me at least three tries to get it to seal after the prev head gasket failed at the ?17 Lime Rock Historics. I ended up using silicone ll. It worked, but it?s messy and unorthodox.
So, does anyone have a suggestion for replacement gaskets? I?m not trying to be a frontrunner, I just crave reliability at this point- a weekend where I can drive off the trailer, race, and drive back on the trailer with nothing broken or suspect. Just once!
Down, but not out. Yours truly,
Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY
I know... I know, I waited a long time to work on the car, but I was working on restoring a friends big Healey, and that had priority. It?s beautiful, but took much longer than anticipated. Just call me ?Mr. Vertical Learning Curve?!_______________________________________________
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Mon May 13 11:15:36 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (tony at tonydrews.com)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 13:15:36 -0400
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
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I use Cometic head gasket.  Fire ring is round, so you may need to go  
larger than cylinder diameter to minimize protrusion in the eyebrow of  
the intake pocket in the head.  The have up to 91 mm diameter if you  
call them (website just shows 88 mm).  Two thicknesses are available  
too.  I run the 91 mm diameter one.

For intake gasket, Remflex is the way to go if you have sealing  
issues.  They have a pre cut option, or you can buy partial sheets and  
make your own.  I make my own because the intake port holes are too  
large and my intake manifold has narrow sealing surfaces.

Tony Drews

Quoting Rick McCurdy via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:

> Some of you may have heard about a New Yorkers? attempt to get to the
> K Cup last weekend, but here?s the skinny:
>
> After long weeks of long days, I finished repairing bodywork from  
> when I smacked the wall backwards at the Canadian Vintage Gran Prix  
> at Mosport last June, and the car reassembled (just) in time to  
> depart New York?s Hudson Valley on Sunday morning,  April 28. Of  
> course, the one thing I didn?t have time to do before loading was to  
> get the car running. Since I was planning on passing through Dayton,  
> I called a long time Sunbeam club friend and asked for help. (How  
> tough is it to get a tractor engine to run?!) Doug Jennings, who  
> owned Tiger Auto in Dayton for decades before retiring a few years  
> ago was the perfect choice.
>
> I arrived at Doug?s around 8:30, had a quick bite of his wife?s  
> (wonderful!) Lasagna, and winched the car into his garage to get the  
> tr3 started. 3 hours later, nothing. Bupkis. Nada. We could not get  
> the car to even cough using starting fluid! New plugs the next  
> morning didn?t matter. The car would. not. start.
>
> I left Dayton for home sometime after noon the next day, an unhappy  
> camper. Disappointing as it was, there still is no sense in dragging  
> a dead race car to California and back. So, I went home.
>
> There is spark, fuel and (barely)compression. When I got home I took  
> it to another Brit car friend who owns a shop and offered to give it  
> a look. We measured an average 105 lbs for comp (it should have done  
> SOMETHING!) and timing was judged to be correct. What we did not do  
> was a leak down test. I don?t know why we didn?t think of that  
> before removing the head... Where the heck is mine when I need it?!
>
> Head removal revealed some scoring of the walls, ugly corrosion in  
> the chambers, but nothing blatant. When I crashed last year,  
> apparently the top rad hose popped off the spout and water was  
> introduced into the intake. Who knew!? I hit the wall backwards  
> after rounding turn 10, and the little birdies were flying around  
> the little stars before I shut down the motor and gingerly  
> extricated myself from the car. I didn?t know for 6 more weeks that  
> I had a handful of broken vertebrae (thank you, HANS device..!), now  
> fully repaired with the neurosurgeons approval to race, by the way.  
> I discovered the water evidence when I had to remove the manifolds  
> to weld up the ripped exhaust collector. Inside the ports were rust  
> remains that definitely should not have been there- and the starter  
> didn?t spin the motor until I pulled plugs, squirted WD-40 into the  
> cyls and bumped the started button until it loosened up and spun  
> freely.
> Next season, when the water is drained for winter, it will get the  
> cylinders lubricated! That is, when I finally get the darn thing to  
> run...
>
> My big adventure was a bust. Bummed I missed it (a good one, from  
> all the great comments!), bummed I didn?t get to see west coast  
> friends, but still determined to be at Mid-Ohio next year!
>
> Since I?ve had the head and manifolds off a number of times, it?s  
> time for a new gaskets (both head and manifold). The solid copper  
> gasket worked great, but took me at least three tries to get it to  
> seal after the prev head gasket failed at the ?17 Lime Rock  
> Historics. I ended up using silicone ll. It worked, but it?s messy  
> and unorthodox.
>
> So, does anyone have a suggestion for replacement gaskets? I?m not  
> trying to be a frontrunner, I just crave reliability at this point-  
> a weekend where I can drive off the trailer, race, and drive back on  
> the trailer with nothing broken or suspect. Just once!
>
> Down, but not out. Yours truly,
>
> Rick McCurdy
> Newburgh, NY
>
> I know... I know, I waited a long time to work on the car, but I was  
> working on restoring a friends big Healey, and that had priority.  
> It?s beautiful, but took much longer than anticipated. Just call me  
> ?Mr. Vertical Learning Curve?!





From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon May 13 12:49:00 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 13:49:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] The Kastner Cup. A Ken Knight Production
References: <003001d50997$e3441820$a9cc4860$@klaenv.com>
Message-ID: <8F553DCD-CEE4-4C34-94BA-8D12FF9521B4@gmail.com>

This comes from Ken Knight. A thank you to all.


> 
> Joe;
> 
> There are lots of people that deserve to be mentioned for help with this
> event.
> 
> First, as always, is Kas.  He was in on all the planning and kept us on
> point.  
> 
> Joe, you are the "Keeper of the Flame" for all of these events.  Jeanette at
> VARA worked very hard to give us everything we asked for and more (as did
> the club).  Steve Belfer did his magic with all the posters.  Moss Motors
> stepped up (Thanks to Robert Goldman) to get Peter Brock to the event.
> Peter, his awesome trailer and his personal Cobra Daytona were a big hit.
> Bill Hart made the TR-250K available and is trusting enough to let  Tony
> drive the beast!  Mordy Dunst provided the much needed garage space for our
> clan to gather, a big thanks there.  Rod Sussman gave us a short Drivers
> Meeting and behind the scenes VARA guys John Wilkens and Val Ascensio
> helped with the race action.  Alan Berry provided stickers.  John Linney and
> Shawn Frank made the trek out west to cover the event and put together a
> video.  Finally, there are all the racers who busted butt to get cars ready
> and to drive from Canada, the Midwest, the Pacific Northwest, New Mexico and
> Texas to run the race.  If I have forgotten anyone my apologies!

Pivotal to the weekend is Videographer, John Linney. Editing is in progress and the preliminary results are extraordinary. You will see yourself in action. A lot of it.
> 
> No event is done by one person, it was a team effort.  So my thanks to all
> that helped!
> 
> Cheers, Ken
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via
> Fot
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 6:22 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Cc: Jeanette.Bourke at vararacing.com
> Subject: [Fot] The Kastner Cup. A Ken Knight Production
> 
> FOT
> 
> Many thanks to Ken Knight to taking this event on as Chair.
> 
> It is always a much bigger job than anyone imagines.
> 
> It was a huge success and the success will be felt for months and years to
> come.
> 
> Thank you Ken & Terri Knight.
> 
> Now onto to Mid-Ohio.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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> 
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> 


From ac at camoletti.ch  Tue May 14 07:55:45 2019
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:55:45 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
Message-ID: <00e601d50a5c$ba79a160$2f6ce420$@camoletti.ch>

Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion last year, two questions:

 

1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?

 

2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?

 

Thanks for your suggestions here!

Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)

Alex Camoletti

 

De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
Envoy? : vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
? : Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet : Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source

 

I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.  Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay of game.

https://www.calicocoatings.com/

Tony Drews

 

On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:

anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out? 

 

Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?

 

thanks,

Scott






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From rick.parent at att.net  Tue May 14 08:05:27 2019
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:05:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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 Install as is, enjoy!
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 9:56:04 AM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
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Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion last year, two questions:

 ?

1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?

 ?

2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?

 ?

Thanks for your suggestions here!

Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)

Alex Camoletti

 ?

De?: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
Envoy??: vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
??: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet?: Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source

 ?

I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.? Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.? Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.? That was a delay of game.

https://www.calicocoatings.com/

Tony Drews

 ?

On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:


anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out? 

 ?

Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?

 ?

thanks,

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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Tue May 14 08:13:51 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 10:13:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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If I asked my engine builder, he would snicker and ask me to leave.

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:05 AM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Install as is, enjoy!
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 9:56:04 AM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion
> last year, two questions:
>
>
>
> 1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10
> microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?
>
>
>
> 2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will
> tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded
> to remove the coating and restore the original ID?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestions here!
>
> Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)
>
> Alex Camoletti
>
>
>
> *De :* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] *De la part de* Tony Drews
> via Fot
> *Envoy? :* vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
> *? :* Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> *Objet :* Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source
>
>
>
> I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to
> Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're looking for, but
> Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.
> Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to
> Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay of game.
>
> https://www.calicocoatings.com/
>
> Tony Drews
>
>
>
> On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
>
> anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for
> the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to
> subsequently send them out?
>
>
>
> Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Tue May 14 08:19:45 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:19:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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#1- I've had all of my bearings treated (Polymer Dynamics Houston Tx) for decades. 
They call out thickness @ .0002-.0004, I usually find about 2/10s (per shell), so it sure does affect clearance.#2- I wouldn't touch the parting faces, unless there were obviously heavy deposits on the ends; it directly affects the crush or grip of the bearings, not so much the housing bore of the bearings dimensionally.

Glen

 
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From: Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, May 14, 2019 9:56 am
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings

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Envoy??: vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
??: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet?: Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source ?I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.? Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.? Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.? That was a delay of game.https://www.calicocoatings.com/Tony Drews ?On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out?  ?Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same? ?thanks,Scott


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From rick.parent at att.net  Tue May 14 08:46:14 2019
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:46:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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 Haha, that's funny, I also use that same coating for my oil pumps, it makes quite the difference in pressure and longevity. There is some break in procedure before it can be installed though.
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 10:14:04 AM EDT, John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 If I asked my engine builder, he would snicker and ask me to leave.
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:05 AM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

 Install as is, enjoy!
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 9:56:04 AM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion last year, two questions:

 ?

1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?

 ?

2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?

 ?

Thanks for your suggestions here!

Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)

Alex Camoletti

 ?

De?: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
Envoy??: vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
??: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet?: Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source

 ?

I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.? Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.? Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.? That was a delay of game.

https://www.calicocoatings.com/

Tony Drews

 ?

On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:


anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out? 

 ?

Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?

 ?

thanks,

Scott





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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Tue May 14 09:34:33 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 08:34:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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Which coating are we talking about for bearings...their site has about 50 different types...

Brad Eells
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> On May 14, 2019, at 7:46 AM, Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Haha, that's funny, I also use that same coating for my oil pumps, it makes quite the difference in pressure and longevity. There is some break in procedure before it can be installed though.
> 
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 10:14:04 AM EDT, John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> If I asked my engine builder, he would snicker and ask me to leave.
> 
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:05 AM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Install as is, enjoy!
> 
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 9:56:04 AM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion last year, two questions:
> 
>  
> 
> 1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?
> 
>  
> 
> 2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions here!
> 
> Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)
> 
> Alex Camoletti
> 
>  
> 
> De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
> Envoy? : vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
> ? : Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> Objet : Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source
> 
>  
> 
> I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.  Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay of game.
> 
> https://www.calicocoatings.com/
> 
> Tony Drews
> 
>  
> 
> On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
> 
> anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out?
> 
>  
> 
> Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?
> 
>  
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Tue May 14 09:59:59 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 08:59:59 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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Looks like the right stuff. The company is based in the heart of NASCAR
country. They would likely be the authority on any need for crank
modifications based on film thickness.

https://www.calicocoatings.com/coating-data-sheets/ct-1-dry-film-lubricant/


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On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 6:55 AM Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion
> last year, two questions:
>
>
>
> 1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10
> microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?
>
>
>
> 2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will
> tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded
> to remove the coating and restore the original ID?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestions here!
>
> Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)
>
> Alex Camoletti
>
>
>
> *De :* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] *De la part de* Tony Drews
> via Fot
> *Envoy? :* vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
> *? :* Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> *Objet :* Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source
>
>
>
> I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to
> Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're looking for, but
> Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.
> Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to
> Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay of game.
>
> https://www.calicocoatings.com/
>
> Tony Drews
>
>
>
> On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
>
> anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for
> the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to
> subsequently send them out?
>
>
>
> Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue May 14 10:46:55 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (tony at tonydrews.com)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 12:46:55 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
In-Reply-To: <00e601d50a5c$ba79a160$2f6ce420$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <20190514124655.Horde.1dlYK4fuWMwXEAqBWQMUjZs@tonydrews.com>

I concur with the ?install as is?.  I just make sure they are nice and clean.

Wouldn?t hurt to check the clearance, but it?s never been an issue for me.

Regards, Tony Drews

Quoting Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch>:

> Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings)  
> discussion last year, two questions:
>
>
>
> 1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx.  
> 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the  
> clearance?
>
>
>
> 2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this  
> will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the  
> edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestions here!
>
> Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)
>
> Alex Camoletti
>
>
>
> De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
> Envoy? : vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
> ? : Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> Objet : Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source
>
>
>
> I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send  
> them to Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're  
> looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years  
> and am very happy with.  Just be sure to mail them them Denver North  
> Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay  
> of game.
>
> https://www.calicocoatings.com/
>
> Tony Drews
>
>
>
> On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
>
> anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings  
> for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to  
> subsequently send them out?
>
>
>
> Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
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From john at linneyweb.com  Tue May 14 12:17:44 2019
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 11:17:44 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
Message-ID: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>

I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI

I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 

If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 

If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.

On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.

I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.

I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.

-john

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
408 887 8105

https://classicmotorfilms.com



From bownes at web9.com  Tue May 14 13:11:27 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:11:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
References: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOSB9_8b7Ain6+xoUd2UvFZKxWZgyGfpk-4GOj4n5RXvwA@mail.gmail.com>

Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a
triumph based race car....


On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 2:17 PM John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019
> Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel.
> https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>
> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event.
> As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided
> by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all
> synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very
> exciting racing.
>
> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube
> channel and sharing it with your friends.
>
> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at
> https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future
> projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not
> too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.
>
> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also
> enjoy and share.
>
> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and
> overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the
> week-end.
>
> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony
> Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously
> provided footage.
>
> -john
>
> John Linney
> Classic Motor Films
> 408 887 8105
>
> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Tue May 14 16:28:32 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:28:32 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
References: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
Message-ID: <BDEEF16F-0019-4965-959A-743440357F63@gmail.com>

That?s a mighty effort John...Bravo, well done!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2019, at 11:17 AM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
> 
> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 
> 
> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 
> 
> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.
> 
> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.
> 
> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.
> 
> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.
> 
> -john
> 
> John Linney
> Classic Motor Films
> 408 887 8105
> 
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Tue May 14 17:45:59 2019
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 23:45:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
References: <681527945.2317085.1557877559298.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <681527945.2317085.1557877559298@mail.yahoo.com>

Damnd good job !!!!?

MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2
 On?Tuesday, May 14, 2019,?John Linney via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI

I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 

If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 

If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.

On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.

I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.

I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.

-john

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
408 887 8105

https://classicmotorfilms.com

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From Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com  Tue May 14 19:18:57 2019
From: Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 18:18:57 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
Message-ID: <dbda32a2815448b39702a3a3740b981d.Gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com>

That is a great job putting together that video! 
Thanks to everyone who participated. 


Greg Solow
The Engine Room
Sports Car Specialists
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
831 429-1800



------- Original Message -------
>From    : John Linney via Fot[mailto:fot at autox.team.net]
Sent    : 5/14/2019 11:17:44 AM
To      : fot at autox.team.net
Cc      : 
Subject : RE: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video

 I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that
my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now
available to watch on my YouTube channel. 
https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI 

I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the
spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own
cameras, there are shots generously provided by
drivers. The race portion consists of nine different
camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give
a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 

If you enjoy it, please help me do more by
subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with
your friends. 

If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at
 https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/  to get
updates on future projects. I have plans for other
videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if
you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.

On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which
I hope you will also enjoy and share.

I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to
create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity
and support of everyone I met over the week-end.

I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg
Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as
well as all the racers who so generously provided
footage.

-john

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
408 887 8105

 https://classicmotorfilms.com 

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Tue May 14 19:38:02 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 20:38:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Decals and Kastner Cup Posters. Availability Status.
Message-ID: <4C7E14C5-D993-4EA4-905D-13352FE67A0F@gmail.com>

FOT:

I ran 100 decals, thinking that I would have them for a long time. Not so. I am now down to 25 3 x 5 decals.

$10 = 4 decals delivered. $2.50 each after the first four.


I ran 100 special edition 17 x 11 collectible posters with artwork by Steve Belfer. They are gone, but I am going to do a short run.

$15 protected in a new mailing tube and delivered. 

This Kastner Cup, produced  by Chair Ken Knight, was an exceptional event that will be remembered for a very long time. 

????????????????????-

In addition to the Kastner Cup Event, there was a historical reunion of Kas Kastner, Peter Brock, and the TR250K. Converging from Washington, Nevada, and California, this unlikely to happen again. A celebration of a great automotive legacy with two automotive icons.

The Kastner Cup and the FOT are on a roll. See you at Mid-Ohio in 2020. It?s where it all began.

Thanks,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711



From gasket.works at gte.net  Tue May 14 22:31:05 2019
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 04:31:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
References: <123310733.2412837.1557894665415.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <123310733.2412837.1557894665415@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all: ?
Kas asked me?to make a quick comnent on the?race. ?

The ?Linney video?compilation is extraordinary. ??The race started cleanly enough. ?The three leaders mueller, garmey and knight were duking it ?out in front. I had a ring side view?watching them in?fourth?position. ??After about two laps Ken knight had a mechanical issue slowed and eventually pulled off course near the sweeper. ?? That left john?mueller and Tony Garmey in?front. After a couple of laps I was able to pass Tony on the inside of the sweeper?just before the Esses. ? Tony was to recapture that position on the next lap at riverside corner due to?traffic interference. He and Mueller were neck?and neck. ? I passed once again and was behind Mueller when at the Truck stop turn Mueller?got out of sorts and off track. ?Made lots of dust. ?I had to avoid collision?and ?got out if sorts too. ?Made two 360?s and ended up facing the correct way on track left. It was a dangerous spot. ?.?Took literally?two minutes of cranking motor until it cleared and fired up (just as safety truck arrived to assist). ? I took off but, a whole lap down. ?? I saw black flag at next station (acknowledged it - thinking? it was for?me) then recognized that every flag station had a?standing black flag. ?I wondered why that was needed. ?Yes, there were a few cars with mechanicals ?on course but, they were very safe and off line. ?
Mordy
?
MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2
 On?Tuesday, May 14, 2019,?John Linney via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI

I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 

If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 

If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.

On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.

I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.

I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.

-john

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
408 887 8105

https://classicmotorfilms.com

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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May 15 00:38:23 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 00:38:23 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1+nOSB9_8b7Ain6+xoUd2UvFZKxWZgyGfpk-4GOj4n5RXvwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
 <CAJ1+nOSB9_8b7Ain6+xoUd2UvFZKxWZgyGfpk-4GOj4n5RXvwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1a606d68-dec5-41e4-28a0-0e7c26d019c2@bradakis.com>

On 5/14/19 1:11 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
> Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a 
> triumph based race car....
>

A formula car with a TR8 motor ....

mjb.




From johnstydo at gmail.com  Wed May 15 06:21:33 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 08:21:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <123310733.2412837.1557894665415@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <123310733.2412837.1557894665415.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <123310733.2412837.1557894665415@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAMJWJcGrehn2z57kcuoGHBmYX8K_6YLDkNEjckGQo597q7kv6g@mail.gmail.com>

For the sake of trying to stay on the vintage event schedule, some clubs
will black flag a race instead of full course yellow or partial yellow to
provide time for vehicle recovery, track cleanup, or to punish the group
for not being polite to each other on the racetrack.


On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:31 AM Mordy Dunst via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> Kas asked me to make a quick comnent on the race.
>
>
> The  Linney video compilation is extraordinary.   The race started
> cleanly enough.  The three leaders mueller, garmey and knight were duking
> it  out in front. I had a ring side view watching them in fourth position.
>   After about two laps Ken knight had a mechanical issue slowed and
> eventually pulled off course near the sweeper.    That left john mueller
> and Tony Garmey in front. After a couple of laps I was able to pass Tony on
> the inside of the sweeper just before the Esses.   Tony was to recapture
> that position on the next lap at riverside corner due to traffic
> interference. He and Mueller were neck and neck.   I passed once again and
> was behind Mueller when at the Truck stop turn Mueller got out of sorts and
> off track.  Made lots of dust.  I had to avoid collision and  got out if
> sorts too.  Made two 360?s and ended up facing the correct way on track
> left. It was a dangerous spot.  . Took literally two minutes of cranking
> motor until it cleared and fired up (just as safety truck arrived to
> assist).   I took off but, a whole lap down.    I saw black flag at next
> station (acknowledged it - thinking  it was for me) then recognized that
> every flag station had a standing black flag.  I wondered why that was
> needed.  Yes, there were a few cars with mechanicals  on course but, they
> were very safe and off line.
>
> Mordy
>
>
>
> MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616
> Fax 626.628.3777
> Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471
> T FFL 6,7 SOT 2
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019
> Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel.
> https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>
> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event.
> As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided
> by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all
> synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very
> exciting racing.
>
> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube
> channel and sharing it with your friends.
>
> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/
> to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related
> to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it
> into this video.
>
> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also
> enjoy and share.
>
> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and
> overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the
> week-end.
>
> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony
> Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously
> provided footage.
>
> -john
>
> John Linney
> Classic Motor Films
> 408 887 8105
>
> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Wed May 15 08:06:50 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 07:06:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <CAMJWJcGrehn2z57kcuoGHBmYX8K_6YLDkNEjckGQo597q7kv6g@mail.gmail.com>
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In this case, it was the last race of the day, but there was a BBQ to get to...

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> For the sake of trying to stay on the vintage event schedule, some clubs will black flag a race instead of full course yellow or partial yellow to provide time for vehicle recovery, track cleanup, or to punish the group for not being polite to each other on the racetrack. 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:31 AM Mordy Dunst via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Hi all:  
>> 
>> Kas asked me to make a quick comnent on the race.  
>> 
>> 
>> The  Linney video compilation is extraordinary.   The race started cleanly enough.  The three leaders mueller, garmey and knight were duking it  out in front. I had a ring side view watching them in fourth position.   After about two laps Ken knight had a mechanical issue slowed and eventually pulled off course near the sweeper.    That left john mueller and Tony Garmey in front. After a couple of laps I was able to pass Tony on the inside of the sweeper just before the Esses.   Tony was to recapture that position on the next lap at riverside corner due to traffic interference. He and Mueller were neck and neck.   I passed once again and was behind Mueller when at the Truck stop turn Mueller got out of sorts and off track.  Made lots of dust.  I had to avoid collision and  got out if sorts too.  Made two 360?s and ended up facing the correct way on track left. It was a dangerous spot.  . Took literally two minutes of cranking motor until it cleared and fired up (just as safety truck arrived to assist).   I took off but, a whole lap down.    I saw black flag at next station (acknowledged it - thinking  it was for me) then recognized that every flag station had a standing black flag.  I wondered why that was needed.  Yes, there were a few cars with mechanicals  on course but, they were very safe and off line.  
>> 
>> Mordy
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 
>> Fax 626.628.3777 
>> Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 
>> T FFL 6,7 SOT 2
>> 
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>> 
>> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 
>> 
>> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 
>> 
>> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.
>> 
>> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.
>> 
>> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.
>> 
>> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.
>> 
>> -john
>> 
>> John Linney
>> Classic Motor Films
>> 408 887 8105
>> 
>> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>> 
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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Wed May 15 13:29:29 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 15:29:29 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
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Well, a BBQ engagement is certainly black flag worthy. ?


On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 10:06 AM Brad Eells <tr4abrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> In this case, it was the last race of the day, but there was a BBQ to get
> to...
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> For the sake of trying to stay on the vintage event schedule, some clubs
> will black flag a race instead of full course yellow or partial yellow to
> provide time for vehicle recovery, track cleanup, or to punish the group
> for not being polite to each other on the racetrack.
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:31 AM Mordy Dunst via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> Kas asked me to make a quick comnent on the race.
>>
>>
>> The  Linney video compilation is extraordinary.   The race started
>> cleanly enough.  The three leaders mueller, garmey and knight were duking
>> it  out in front. I had a ring side view watching them in fourth position.
>>   After about two laps Ken knight had a mechanical issue slowed and
>> eventually pulled off course near the sweeper.    That left john mueller
>> and Tony Garmey in front. After a couple of laps I was able to pass Tony on
>> the inside of the sweeper just before the Esses.   Tony was to recapture
>> that position on the next lap at riverside corner due to traffic
>> interference. He and Mueller were neck and neck.   I passed once again and
>> was behind Mueller when at the Truck stop turn Mueller got out of sorts and
>> off track.  Made lots of dust.  I had to avoid collision and  got out if
>> sorts too.  Made two 360?s and ended up facing the correct way on track
>> left. It was a dangerous spot.  . Took literally two minutes of cranking
>> motor until it cleared and fired up (just as safety truck arrived to
>> assist).   I took off but, a whole lap down.    I saw black flag at next
>> station (acknowledged it - thinking  it was for me) then recognized that
>> every flag station had a standing black flag.  I wondered why that was
>> needed.  Yes, there were a few cars with mechanicals  on course but,
>> they were very safe and off line.
>>
>> Mordy
>>
>>
>>
>> MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616
>> Fax 626.628.3777
>> Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471
>> T FFL 6,7 SOT 2
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019
>> Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel.
>> https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>>
>> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the
>> event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously
>> provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera
>> angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of
>> some very exciting racing.
>>
>> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube
>> channel and sharing it with your friends.
>>
>> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/
>> to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related
>> to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it
>> into this video.
>>
>> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also
>> enjoy and share.
>>
>> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and
>> overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the
>> week-end.
>>
>> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank,
>> Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously
>> provided footage.
>>
>> -john
>>
>> John Linney
>> Classic Motor Films
>> 408 887 8105
>>
>> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>>
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>>
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed May 15 22:03:56 2019
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 21:03:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Union Jack Challenge video
Message-ID: <139806162.61636.1557979437035@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello Friends,

I posted a video today of the Sunday all British race from the Buttonwillow event.  

Stay tuned for the Kastner Cup video.  I'll post it once it is edited.

Cheers,

Dave H.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdqHL-eFSSU
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From bownes at web9.com  Wed May 15 22:33:31 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:31 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
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If only someone had ever built one. Closest I can come is an F3 car with a
Dolomite Sprint motor in it. But it's based on a March 783 chassis. Of
which 11 were made. :(




On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:38 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> On 5/14/19 1:11 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
> > Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a
> > triumph based race car....
> >
>
> A formula car with a TR8 motor ....
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Thu May 16 06:16:22 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 08:16:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR8 engine
Message-ID: <001e01d50be1$2d92cc00$88b86400$@rogers.com>

Mickey Thomson 1962 Indy 500 with basically the same engine

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Thompson#1962

 

 

Jack Brabham  in a much modified Repco V8  engine used in F1

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repco

 

 

 

 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robert bownes via Fot
Sent: May 16, 2019 12:34 AM
To: Mark J Bradakis
Cc: FOT
Subject: Re: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video

 

 

If only someone had ever built one. Closest I can come is an F3 car with a Dolomite Sprint motor in it. But it's based on a March 783 chassis. Of which 11 were made. :(

 

 

 

 

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:38 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

On 5/14/19 1:11 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
> Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a 
> triumph based race car....
>

A formula car with a TR8 motor ....

mjb.


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From kknight at klaenv.com  Thu May 16 08:52:40 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Kenneth Knight)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 07:52:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Useful website
Message-ID: <000f01d50bf7$02f81ca0$08e855e0$@klaenv.com>

In a gate building video I watched on YouTube the maker highlighted this
very cool website for making templates to cut pipe miters for welding.  I
looked at the site and there are many functions for layout and other things,
like pulley calculator, that are free and easy to use at home and in the
workshop.  Plans and templates can be printed.

 

Check out www.blocklayer.com  

 

Good building!

 

Ken

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From billdentin at aol.com  Thu May 16 09:03:28 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 15:03:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Useful website
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WOW!? Good stuff. ?
The concrete calculation stuff sure takes me back to my old days when I was a contractor..
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
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To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, May 16, 2019 7:53 am
Subject: [Fot] Useful website

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From rick.parent at att.net  Thu May 16 11:18:30 2019
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 17:18:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Useful website
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 Believe it or not they have a great free gear calculator I use frequently.
https://www.blocklayer.com/rpm-gear.aspx
    On Thursday, May 16, 2019, 9:53:03 AM CDT, Kenneth Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
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 ?

Check out www.blocklayer.com? 

 ?

Good building!

 ?

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From fmccjr at aol.com  Thu May 16 11:39:00 2019
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:39:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
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Rings were stuck, and rust prevented valves from sealing. Head and pistons are at machine shop. Hoping to get it buttoned up before the VSCCA weekend st Lime Rock, first weekend in June.

I?m learning stuff about this TR3 race biz all the time. 

Rick McCurdy
Newburgh, NY

> On May 13, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Bill Dentinger <billdentin at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> Good for you, Rick.  
> 
> Just another one of us unstoppable...tenacious Triumph merry masochists...down, but not out!
> 
> I am proud of you.  
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick McCurdy via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, May 13, 2019 4:17 am
> Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
> 
> Some of you may have heard about a New Yorkers? attempt to get to the 
> K Cup last weekend, but here?s the skinny:
> 
> After long weeks of long days, I finished repairing bodywork from when I smacked the wall backwards at the Canadian Vintage Gran Prix at Mosport last June, and the car reassembled (just) in time to depart New York?s Hudson Valley on Sunday morning,  April 28. Of course, the one thing I didn?t have time to do before loading was to get the car running. Since I was planning on passing through Dayton, I called a long time Sunbeam club friend and asked for help. (How tough is it to get a tractor engine to run?!) Doug Jennings, who owned Tiger Auto in Dayton for decades before retiring a few years ago was the perfect choice.
> 
> I arrived at Doug?s around 8:30, had a quick bite of his wife?s (wonderful!) Lasagna, and winched the car into his garage to get the tr3 started. 3 hours later, nothing. Bupkis. Nada. We could not get the car to even cough using starting fluid! New plugs the next morning didn?t matter. The car would. not. start. 
> 
> I left Dayton for home sometime after noon the next day, an unhappy camper. Disappointing as it was, there still is no sense in dragging a dead race car to California and back. So, I went home. 
> 
> There is spark, fuel and (barely)compression. When I got home I took it to another Brit car friend who owns a shop and offered to give it a look. We measured an average 105 lbs for comp (it should have done SOMETHING!) and timing was judged to be correct. What we did not do was a leak down test. I don?t know why we didn?t think of that before removing the head... Where the heck is mine when I need it?!
> 
> Head removal revealed some scoring of the walls, ugly corrosion in the chambers, but nothing blatant. When I crashed last year, apparently the top rad hose popped off the spout and water was introduced into the intake. Who knew!? I hit the wall backwards after rounding turn 10, and the little birdies were flying around the little stars before I shut down the motor and gingerly extricated myself from the car. I didn?t know for 6 more weeks that I had a handful of broken vertebrae (thank you, HANS device..!), now fully repaired with the neurosurgeons approval to race, by the way. I discovered the water evidence when I had to remove the manifolds to weld up the ripped exhaust collector. Inside the ports were rust remains that definitely should not have been there- and the starter didn?t spin the motor until I pulled plugs, squirted WD-40 into the cyls and bumped the started button until it loosened up and spun freely. 
> Next season, when the water is drained for winter, it will get the cylinders lubricated! That is, when I finally get the darn thing to run...
> 
> My big adventure was a bust. Bummed I missed it (a good one, from all the great comments!), bummed I didn?t get to see west coast friends, but still determined to be at Mid-Ohio next year!
> 
> Since I?ve had the head and manifolds off a number of times, it?s time for a new gaskets (both head and manifold). The solid copper gasket worked great, but took me at least three tries to get it to seal after the prev head gasket failed at the ?17 Lime Rock Historics. I ended up using silicone ll. It worked, but it?s messy and unorthodox.
> 
> So, does anyone have a suggestion for replacement gaskets? I?m not trying to be a frontrunner, I just crave reliability at this point- a weekend where I can drive off the trailer, race, and drive back on the trailer with nothing broken or suspect. Just once!
> 
> Down, but not out. Yours truly,
> 
> Rick McCurdy
> Newburgh, NY
> 
> I know... I know, I waited a long time to work on the car, but I was working on restoring a friends big Healey, and that had priority. It?s beautiful, but took much longer than anticipated. Just call me ?Mr. Vertical Learning Curve?!
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 16 12:29:22 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:29:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Mark on Gasoline Alley.
Message-ID: <F074926E-7FE6-455E-96FC-D36EDCCA6D13@gmail.com>

Mark is feeling the love on Gasoline Alley, today.

Mark started out with a business meeting at Dallara, today. 

But our regards to Mike Mehl today, as well. Unfortunately, Mike is missing the Indy 500 for the first time in nearly four decades. 

Our thoughts are with Mike.

Way to go, Mark!

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4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 16 15:30:04 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 16:30:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Posters
Message-ID: <C959FE2B-3CB2-4E22-A9BE-5F95F4DA97AA@gmail.com>

FOT:

Still doing some Kastner Cup Funding.

By Popular Demand.  We ran some more. Only 25 available.

Artwork by Steve Belfer. 

$15 delivered.

Good time to order FOT 3 x 5 Decals. 

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Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From bownes at web9.com  Thu May 16 16:23:40 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 18:23:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR8 engine
In-Reply-To: <001e01d50be1$2d92cc00$88b86400$@rogers.com>
References: <001e01d50be1$2d92cc00$88b86400$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nORaDPv8jQ7dwLU9DowXfCfDtvi8MKAjXwoCNg8PZymRMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I suppose the 1967 F1 Brabham BT19 would qualify as a Triumph
derivative since it used Herald Saloon uprights at the front, but the REPCO
engine is too early to be a Triumph... ;)

But it would have to be a replica since there is only one. :)

Though the formula car chassis hanging in the garage isn't far off of the
Brabham. It uses the right front uprights... But a 300HP V8 through a pair
of rotoflex couplers seems a touch scary. :)




On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 8:16 AM Paul MacDonald <macdonaldp at rogers.com>
wrote:

> Mickey Thomson 1962 Indy 500 with basically the same engine
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Thompson#1962
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> Jack Brabham  in a much modified Repco V8  engine used in F1
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repco
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> *From:* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *robert
> bownes via Fot
> *Sent:* May 16, 2019 12:34 AM
> *To:* Mark J Bradakis
> *Cc:* FOT
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
>
>
>
>
>
> If only someone had ever built one. Closest I can come is an F3 car with a
> Dolomite Sprint motor in it. But it's based on a March 783 chassis. Of
> which 11 were made. :(
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> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:38 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> On 5/14/19 1:11 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
> > Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a
> > triumph based race car....
> >
>
> A formula car with a TR8 motor ....
>
> mjb.
>
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri May 17 10:13:03 2019
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 11:13:03 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Heads Up.    Chris Marx Crankshaft Seal
References: <4B3DEB35-FF77-4EF9-BDAD-C1E79EC1E5CE.ref@cs.com>
Message-ID: <4B3DEB35-FF77-4EF9-BDAD-C1E79EC1E5CE@cs.com>

FOT:

Chris just sent us 10 more seal kits for distribution in North America.

Lowest price in our continent.

Gasketinnovations.com

There are some replacement seals available, too.

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711



From waldoracer at yahoo.com  Sat May 18 11:17:31 2019
From: waldoracer at yahoo.com (Ralf Schreyer)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 17:17:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] race 64 spitfire
References: <561516465.4289653.1558199852628.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <561516465.4289653.1558199852628@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi al, i have a question about fuel delivery, my car as raced (back in 1981) has electric fuel pump (pump appears to be adjustable), fuel cell to pump is 5/16" ID rubber (am still in wheel chair) can't hold hood open it does have SU's, from fuel pump to carbs is small brake line less than 1\8" ID. Was pressure an issue with these carbs so they restricted flow. Would stock metal line front to back have been 3\16" to 1\4" ID (I have to try and get brand off pump) hope pic comes through Thanks Ralf
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From waldoracer at yahoo.com  Sat May 18 11:39:31 2019
From: waldoracer at yahoo.com (Ralf Schreyer)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 17:39:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] race 64 spitfire
References: <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107@mail.yahoo.com>

HI , my computer will not let me shrink pics from my phone when painted in 70's they used lacquer but apparently 1 coat primer 1 coat color, paint is basically flaking off, which will make getting this car to base metal much easier. Thanks Ralf?
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sat May 18 14:22:13 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 13:22:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] race 64 spitfire
In-Reply-To: <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8124AB9A-A893-44A4-94B0-9AC78BE2530A@gmail.com>

Race car paint jobs were never very fancy.

Due to great storage, my 1970 Grabber Blue paint has held up well, showing its proper desert race track sand blast patina...

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Ralf Schreyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> HI , my computer will not let me shrink pics from my phone when painted in 70's they used lacquer but apparently 1 coat primer 1 coat color, paint is basically flaking off, which will make getting this car to base metal much easier. Thanks Ralf 
> <20190503_122711.jpg>
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sat May 18 14:30:55 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 13:30:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Fuel Supply
Message-ID: <33830928-60AD-4ADE-831C-25832E43892A@gmail.com>

Ralf,

Here is my set up. New cell in a modified original can. 3/8" out of the cell to filter and pump with Push-Lok fittings and hose. 

1/4" on the 'Out' side of the pump to steel tube under the car. Pressure regulator set at 3 PSI in the engine bay just forward of the 2 HS2 carbs.

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Sat May 18 20:16:05 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 21:16:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Videos from Buttonwillow / Kas Cup
Message-ID: <e91e7b75-2756-3bee-72b5-eb8ab61b254c@tonydrews.com>

Kastner Cup race - good racing all race:

https://youtu.be/FGCiTu8YJrk

The next two are interesting for a few laps then get strung out.

Union Jack (all British) race:

https://youtu.be/GZ1hTOoghaU

Group 2 "Flag" race (last race Sunday):

https://youtu.be/nAVJzfND1z8

Regards, Tony



From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon May 20 06:13:46 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 12:13:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
References: <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919@mail.yahoo.com>

I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From TLizzard at msn.com  Mon May 20 10:23:16 2019
From: TLizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 16:23:16 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
In-Reply-To: <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919.ref@mail.yahoo.com>,
 <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR08MB554850C2DF0541AFAD13632FC3060@DM6PR08MB5548.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Might that TR3 have been red on color?

Terry Stetler

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
To: fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon May 20 10:29:59 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 16:29:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
References: <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736@mail.yahoo.com>

 As a matter of fact it was, and now that I'm thinking about it, I recognize the car from somewhere...Glen
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 12:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

#yiv0873678472 #yiv0873678472 -- _filtered #yiv0873678472 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0873678472 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv0873678472 #yiv0873678472 p.yiv0873678472MsoNormal, #yiv0873678472 li.yiv0873678472MsoNormal, #yiv0873678472 div.yiv0873678472MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv0873678472 a:link, #yiv0873678472 span.yiv0873678472MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0873678472 a:visited, #yiv0873678472 span.yiv0873678472MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0873678472 .yiv0873678472MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv0873678472 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv0873678472 div.yiv0873678472WordSection1 {} #yiv0873678472 Might that TR3 have been red on color? ? Terry Stetler ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
To: fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires????I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 20 12:13:16 2019
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 13:13:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
Message-ID: <mailman.575.1638251696.12548.fot@autox.team.net>

AMICI 
I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
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From TLizzard at msn.com  Mon May 20 15:36:38 2019
From: TLizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 21:36:38 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
In-Reply-To: <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736.ref@mail.yahoo.com>,
 <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR08MB554881672651655FFF7A3168C3060@DM6PR08MB5548.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Can?t wait for the after action report.

Terry

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

________________________________
From: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 12:29:59 PM
To: TLizzard at msn.com; fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

As a matter of fact it was, and now that I'm thinking about it, I recognize the car from somewhere...
Glen


-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 12:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

Might that TR3 have been red on color?

Terry Stetler

Sent from Mail<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.microsoft.com%2Ffwlink%2F%3FLinkId%3D550986&data=02%7C01%7C%7C217983bd922a47cfde3f08d6dd406a76%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636939666058399182&sdata=nJxOeGqV0Pi7D7d1kTalNdZLDIBwlbPOaVmgK7zTBGk%3D&reserved=0> for Windows 10

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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
To: fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon May 20 15:45:11 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 21:45:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
References: <759922008.2806068.1558388711995.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <759922008.2806068.1558388711995@mail.yahoo.com>

 Well now that the rumors have started, I expect that the owner/driver will jump in here at some point with his side of the story...Glenps- yeah it was like bringing a knife to a gunfight with those treaded tires ha ha!
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 5:36 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

#yiv1013457441 #yiv1013457441 -- _filtered #yiv1013457441 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1013457441 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv1013457441 #yiv1013457441 p.yiv1013457441MsoNormal, #yiv1013457441 li.yiv1013457441MsoNormal, #yiv1013457441 div.yiv1013457441MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv1013457441 a:link, #yiv1013457441 span.yiv1013457441MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv1013457441 a:visited, #yiv1013457441 span.yiv1013457441MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv1013457441 .yiv1013457441MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv1013457441 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv1013457441 div.yiv1013457441WordSection1 {} #yiv1013457441 Can?t wait for the after action report. ? Terry ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 12:29:59 PM
To: TLizzard at msn.com; fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires????As a matter of fact it was, and now that I'm thinking about it, I recognize the car from somewhere...Glen


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Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 12:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

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Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires????I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From bownes at web9.com  Mon May 20 18:50:42 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 20:50:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
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Many years ago I raced my 64 GP Spit at Lime Rock Park in Connecticut in
the SCCA Production/GT race in the morning, swapped the slicks off of it
over lunch for a set of A008Rs and raced it in the SCCA Vintage class race
in the afternoon.

The Production race was notable because my little 1147 GP Spit was out
there with a GT1 car driven by a well known former TR6 driver. I drew him
aside at the driver's meeting and said "Paul, I'll do my best to stay out
of your way, but with the closing speed you'll have on me, I might get
surprised." He said "Just drive your race kid, I'll worry about staying out
of your way", flashed that famous smile and wandered back to his trailer.
We both won our class, Though I think I was about 4 laps down on him.

iii

On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 8:39 PM fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Well now that the rumors have started, I expect that the owner/driver will
> jump in here at some point with his side of the story...
> Glen
> ps- yeah it was like bringing a knife to a gunfight with those treaded
> tires ha ha!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 5:36 pm
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
>
> Can?t wait for the after action report.
>
> Terry
>
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> *To:* TLizzard at msn.com; fot at Autox.Team.Net
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
>
> As a matter of fact it was, and now that I'm thinking about it, I
> recognize the car from somewhere...
> Glen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
> To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 12:23 pm
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> Might that TR3 have been red on color?
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> Terry Stetler
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> *To:* fot at Autox.Team.Net
> *Subject:* [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
>
> I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a
> certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment)
> showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it,
> down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA
> SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
> Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper
> and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the
> races" for our intrepid Vintage race...
>
> Glen
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From billdentin at aol.com  Mon May 20 21:08:36 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 03:08:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
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Dennis..,
I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now. ?She?ll need rare parts. ?Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?Bill Dentinger

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 On?Monday, May 20, 2019,?Dennis DeLap via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

AMICI 
I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
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From billdentin at aol.com  Mon May 20 21:08:36 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 03:08:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
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Dennis..,
I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now. ?She?ll need rare parts. ?Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?Bill Dentinger

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 On?Monday, May 20, 2019,?Dennis DeLap via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

AMICI 
I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue May 21 05:02:42 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 07:02:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
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Try Midnight Auto in Newton NJ. He?s got a racing Cortina tub for sale. midnightautopete at ptd.net


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> On May 20, 2019, at 11:08 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Dennis..,
> 
> I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now.  She?ll need rare parts.  Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> 
> On Monday, May 20, 2019, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> AMICI 
> I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
> Thanks
> Dennis
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From tredmond826 at gmail.com  Tue May 21 05:24:12 2019
From: tredmond826 at gmail.com (Todd Redmond)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 07:24:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
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Yes he does! 
He has my TR3 now working on the roll-cage.  I was there this weekend and took this pick. 

Thanks
Todd Redmond

> On May 21, 2019, at 7:02 AM, Phil Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Try Midnight Auto in Newton NJ. He?s got a racing Cortina tub for sale. midnightautopete at ptd.net
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2019, at 11:08 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Dennis..,
>> 
>> I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now.  She?ll need rare parts.  Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?
>> Bill Dentinger
>> 
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>> 
>> On Monday, May 20, 2019, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> AMICI 
>> I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
>> Thanks
>> Dennis
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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue May 21 08:27:04 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 10:27:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
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?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Todd Redmond via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes he does! 
> He has my TR3 now working on the roll-cage.  I was there this weekend and took this pick. 
> 
> Thanks
> Todd Redmond
> 
>> On May 21, 2019, at 7:02 AM, Phil Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Try Midnight Auto in Newton NJ. He?s got a racing Cortina tub for sale. midnightautopete at ptd.net
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2019, at 11:08 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dennis..,
>>> 
>>> I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now.  She?ll need rare parts.  Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?
>>> Bill Dentinger
>>> 
>>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>>> 
>>> On Monday, May 20, 2019, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> AMICI 
>>> I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
>>> Thanks
>>> Dennis
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Tue May 21 08:43:12 2019
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 10:43:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
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Dennis,


I just spoke with Pete. He does have a Cortina for sale.? Actually its a 
two tubs for one sale.


He said give him a call 973.383.8859.


I took this picture this past Sunday.? He is working on the Rollcage on 
my TR3.


Good Luck!
Todd



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AMICI
I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone 
know of one?
Thanks
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Tue May 21 10:27:33 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 09:27:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Herald
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Who was looking for a Herald?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Triumph-Herald/173903013559

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From sjanzen at me.com  Tue May 21 20:31:47 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 22:31:47 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
Message-ID: <BA0DE2A9-943F-425E-9A33-65B505252A5C@me.com>

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.  
After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:

1 - 200 and 2%
2- 180 and 6%
3 - 180 and 9%
4 - 195 and 0%
5 - 190 and 0%
6 - 185 and 0%

Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher. 
There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speed
What do i have - failing rings?  
Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated.

Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke
Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others 
Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one

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From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be  Wed May 22 02:14:01 2019
From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 10:14:01 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
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If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter, then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad news. 
Marcel 


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Verzonden: Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47 
Onderwerp: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause? 

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing. 
After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer. 
Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole. 
Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test. Cold engine results: 

1 - 200 and 2% 
2- 180 and 6% 
3 - 180 and 9% 
4 - 195 and 0% 
5 - 190 and 0% 
6 - 185 and 0% 

Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero. So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher. 
There was no excess oil until the last session. Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM. 
EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speed 
What do i have - failing rings? 
Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated. 

Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember. 
TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar 
GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke 
Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others 
Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one 

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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Wed May 22 04:51:00 2019
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 10:51:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
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 Hi,
First off - I'd only to the leakdown test with the engine hot. Cold numbers don't really count. The numbers that you give look pretty good from a leakdown perspective. As a point of reference, with >10% leakdown into the sump in a couple of cylinders, you will see oil drip out of the strangest places (like around the nuts holding the valve cover down and the filler cap to which you refer.) So, either your gauge is lying or you need to verify your numbers with the engine at operating temps (and see if the numbers change). If you have access to another gauge, that might help figure out if anything is wrong. Oh, and is there any oil fouling on the plugs? Blow by should also introduce some oil into the cylinders when you lift off...

I think Marcel's suggestion has merit.
Let us know if you find anything.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 4:14:19 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter, then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad? news.Marcel
Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47
Onderwerp: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing. ?After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test. ?Cold engine results:
1 - 200 and 2%2- 180 and 6%3 - 180 and 9%4 - 195 and 0%5 - 190 and 0%6 - 185 and 0%
Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero. ?So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.?There was no excess oil until the last session. ?Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speedWhat do i have - failing rings? ?Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated.
Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John StyduharGT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case brokeSpitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others?Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
Scott Janzen

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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Wed May 22 05:05:33 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 07:05:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
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If you have an accusump, check if the valve is operating properly.  Maybe
the valve was closed accidentally during running and the engine oil level
was excessive.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> First off - I'd only to the leakdown test with the engine hot. Cold
> numbers don't really count. The numbers that you give look pretty good from
> a leakdown perspective. As a point of reference, with >10% leakdown into
> the sump in a couple of cylinders, you will see oil drip out of the
> strangest places (like around the nuts holding the valve cover down and the
> filler cap to which you refer.) So, either your gauge is lying or you need
> to verify your numbers with the engine at operating temps (and see if the
> numbers change). If you have access to another gauge, that might help
> figure out if anything is wrong. Oh, and is there any oil fouling on the
> plugs? Blow by should also introduce some oil into the cylinders when you
> lift off...
>
> I think Marcel's suggestion has merit.
>
> Let us know if you find anything.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
>
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 4:14:19 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots
> of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially
> when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter,
> then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow
> by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad  news.
> Marcel
>
> ------------------------------
> *Van: *"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Aan: *"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Verzonden: *Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47
> *Onderwerp: *[Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
>
> I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and
> lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
> After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the
> trailer.
> Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil
> blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
> Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:
>
> 1 - 200 and 2%
> 2- 180 and 6%
> 3 - 180 and 9%
> 4 - 195 and 0%
> 5 - 190 and 0%
> 6 - 185 and 0%
>
> Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite
> right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last
> three is slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three
> is higher.
> There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50
> hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
> EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored
> cylinders at top speed
> What do i have - failing rings?
> Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing
> apart would be appreciated.
>
> Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
> TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
> GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke
> Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
> Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
>
> Scott Janzen
>
>
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From joeg at neb.rr.com  Wed May 22 09:24:04 2019
From: joeg at neb.rr.com (Joe Guinan)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 10:24:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
Message-ID: <009b01d510b2$658dc2b0$30a94810$@neb.rr.com>

John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his Vitesse
racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com

May I have a second?

Joe Guinan
Fremont, Nebraska

This note is from John...
I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
to the Great Garage in the Sky.   Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take best
advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
Ferrari.


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From dbm.spitfire at gmail.com  Wed May 22 09:34:16 2019
From: dbm.spitfire at gmail.com (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:34:16 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
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Seconded. Welcome John.

On Wed, May 22, 2019, 11:25 AM Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
> Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
> can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his
> Vitesse
> racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
> John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com
>
> May I have a second?
>
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, Nebraska
>
> This note is from John...
> I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
> to the Great Garage in the Sky.   Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
> SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
> grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
> I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
> Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
> completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
> building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take
> best
> advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
> Ferrari.
>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Wed May 22 09:49:33 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:49:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause? Update.
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Haven?t figured out the problem yet, but I thought this explanation from Longacre on how a leakdown gauge works might interest you all.

"The leak down gauge is simply a 100 psi gauge that reads backwards from a tire pressure gauge. Basically if you have 100 psi going to your cylinder and it doesn?t leak down at all then it will show you 0 leak down and/or 100 psi if it was a normal pressure gauge. If your regulator is set higher then 100 then the leakdown gauge will go below zero because its showing a higher pressure."

So, one of my gauges is no longer reading correctly, as I?m getting a higher pressure on the cylinder than on the supply, on some cylinders.  Have to swap them out to figure out which, and then I?ll be able to determine how much leakdown there really is.  

More to follow this weekend!

On May 22, 2019, at 7:05 AM, John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com> wrote:

If you have an accusump, check if the valve is operating properly.  Maybe the valve was closed accidentally during running and the engine oil level was excessive.  

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hi,

First off - I'd only to the leakdown test with the engine hot. Cold numbers don't really count. The numbers that you give look pretty good from a leakdown perspective. As a point of reference, with >10% leakdown into the sump in a couple of cylinders, you will see oil drip out of the strangest places (like around the nuts holding the valve cover down and the filler cap to which you refer.) So, either your gauge is lying or you need to verify your numbers with the engine at operating temps (and see if the numbers change). If you have access to another gauge, that might help figure out if anything is wrong. Oh, and is there any oil fouling on the plugs? Blow by should also introduce some oil into the cylinders when you lift off...

I think Marcel's suggestion has merit.

Let us know if you find anything.

Regards,
Bob Lang

On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 4:14:19 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter, then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad  news.
Marcel

Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Verzonden: Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47
Onderwerp: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.  
After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:

1 - 200 and 2%
2- 180 and 6%
3 - 180 and 9%
4 - 195 and 0%
5 - 190 and 0%
6 - 185 and 0%

Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher. 
There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speed
What do i have - failing rings?  
Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated.

Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke
Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others 
Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one

Scott Janzen


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From billdentin at aol.com  Wed May 22 09:50:38 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 15:50:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
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Amici...
SECOND!
I love the graphics on John Davies' Old Blue.
And of course, the FOT already has one Old Blue, and there was also Uncle Jack's New Blue.
Room for all.
Bill Dentinger


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To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: john.r.davies <john.r.davies at btinternet.com>
Sent: Wed, May 22, 2019 8:24 am
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer

John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his Vitesse
racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com

May I have a second?

Joe Guinan
Fremont, Nebraska

This note is from John...
I race a Vitesse in the UK.? ? It's my third, the previous two having gone
to the Great Garage in the Sky.? Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
SofS? (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
grandfathers hat).? ? This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.? ? Currently
building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take best
advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.? And looking for a job at
Ferrari.


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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed May 22 10:02:42 2019
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 09:02:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR3 spins at Buttonwillow
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Hey gang,

I thought I'd share this video of my first spin in my TR3. It seems that getting the tires on the painted concrete while under full throttle is not conducive to forward movement.

I was lucky to get away with this one unscathed.  As I start to spin I look to my left to see Walt coming toward my door with his TR6, so I hit the throttle to get out of his way completing a 360.  Also, the only concrete wall at the track was close by too.  I gave a no harm done woohoo when I came to a stop.

I catch another slide while passing a Mini around the 7 minute mark. 

Dave H.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxKBDyA_cEU&t=12s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxKBDyA_cEU&t=12s
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed May 22 10:15:50 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:15:50 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
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Dr. Davies,

Would you be interested in shipping your Vitesse to Mid-Ohio for the 2020 Kastner Cup in June? We have one Triumph being air shipped, and perhaps three other Triumphs being shipped by water. In 2002 we had EIGHT Triumphs from the U.K.

We would be pleased if you considered this.

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 22, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Amici...
> 
> SECOND!
> 
> I love the graphics on John Davies' Old Blue.
> 
> And of course, the FOT already has one Old Blue, and there was also Uncle Jack's New Blue.
> 
> Room for all.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Cc: john.r.davies <john.r.davies at btinternet.com>
> Sent: Wed, May 22, 2019 8:24 am
> Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
> 
> John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
> Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
> can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his Vitesse
> racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
> John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com
> 
> May I have a second?
> 
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, Nebraska
> 
> This note is from John...
> I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
> to the Great Garage in the Sky.  Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
> SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
> grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
> I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
> Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
> completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
> building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take best
> advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
> Ferrari.
> 
> 
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed May 22 10:45:14 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:45:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
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Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 22, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Amici...
> 
> SECOND!
> 
> I love the graphics on John Davies' Old Blue.
> 
> And of course, the FOT already has one Old Blue, and there was also Uncle Jack's New Blue.
> 
> Room for all.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Cc: john.r.davies <john.r.davies at btinternet.com>
> Sent: Wed, May 22, 2019 8:24 am
> Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
> 
> John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
> Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
> can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his Vitesse
> racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
> John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com
> 
> May I have a second?
> 
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, Nebraska
> 
> This note is from John...
> I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
> to the Great Garage in the Sky.  Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
> SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
> grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
> I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
> Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
> completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
> building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take best
> advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
> Ferrari.
> 
> 
> ---
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed May 22 13:47:58 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 19:47:58 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause? Update.
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That?s a great tip!!  Change your regulator setting and you?ll have no leakdown!  Problem solved.  You?re welcome.  :-)

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 10:50 AM
To: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause? Update.

Haven?t figured out the problem yet, but I thought this explanation from Longacre on how a leakdown gauge works might interest you all.

"The leak down gauge is simply a 100 psi gauge that reads backwards from a tire pressure gauge. Basically if you have 100 psi going to your cylinder and it doesn?t leak down at all then it will show you 0 leak down and/or 100 psi if it was a normal pressure gauge. If your regulator is set higher then 100 then the leakdown gauge will go below zero because its showing a higher pressure."

So, one of my gauges is no longer reading correctly, as I?m getting a higher pressure on the cylinder than on the supply, on some cylinders.  Have to swap them out to figure out which, and then I?ll be able to determine how much leakdown there really is.

More to follow this weekend!

On May 22, 2019, at 7:05 AM, John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com<mailto:johnstydo at gmail.com>> wrote:

If you have an accusump, check if the valve is operating properly.  Maybe the valve was closed accidentally during running and the engine oil level was excessive.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hi,

First off - I'd only to the leakdown test with the engine hot. Cold numbers don't really count. The numbers that you give look pretty good from a leakdown perspective. As a point of reference, with >10% leakdown into the sump in a couple of cylinders, you will see oil drip out of the strangest places (like around the nuts holding the valve cover down and the filler cap to which you refer.) So, either your gauge is lying or you need to verify your numbers with the engine at operating temps (and see if the numbers change). If you have access to another gauge, that might help figure out if anything is wrong. Oh, and is there any oil fouling on the plugs? Blow by should also introduce some oil into the cylinders when you lift off...

I think Marcel's suggestion has merit.

Let us know if you find anything.

Regards,
Bob Lang

On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 4:14:19 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter, then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad  news.
Marcel

________________________________
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Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Verzonden: Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47
Onderwerp: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:

1 - 200 and 2%
2- 180 and 6%
3 - 180 and 9%
4 - 195 and 0%
5 - 190 and 0%
6 - 185 and 0%

Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.
There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speed
What do i have - failing rings?
Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated.

Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke
Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one

Scott Janzen


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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed May 22 15:30:44 2019
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 16:30:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Historically Significant Triumph Race Cars. Display at The
 Glen. Two Triumphs needed.
Message-ID: <B502AAAC-FAF8-43FC-82D9-0A0973A65696@cs.com>

FOT:

We are looking for two candidates for display.

They would be on display in the IMRRC Facility at Watkins Glen for at least the duration of the SVRA event in September 2019.

The candidate Cars could not do double duty as a race entry, but COULD be released for the re-enactment on Friday.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711




From vfracing at aol.com  Wed May 22 20:44:14 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 22:44:14 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Historically Significant Triumph Race Cars. Display at
 The Glen. Two Triumphs needed.
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Tim Sudard?s Ex Daytona TR 3?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 22, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> FOT:
> 
> We are looking for two candidates for display.
> 
> They would be on display in the IMRRC Facility at Watkins Glen for at least the duration of the SVRA event in September 2019.
> 
> The candidate Cars could not do double duty as a race entry, but COULD be released for the re-enactment on Friday.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
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From billdentin at aol.com  Wed May 22 20:55:31 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 02:55:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Historically Significant Triumph Race Cars. Display at
 The Glen. Two Triumphs needed.
References: <1641135140.3857164.1558580131839.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1641135140.3857164.1558580131839@mail.yahoo.com>

Don?t be silly. ?
All TRIUMPHS are significant!
Bill Dentinger

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
 On?Wednesday, May 22, 2019,?Phil Gott via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Tim Sudard?s Ex Daytona TR 3?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 22, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> FOT:
> 
> We are looking for two candidates for display.
> 
> They would be on display in the IMRRC Facility at Watkins Glen for at least the duration of the SVRA event in September 2019.
> 
> The candidate Cars could not do double duty as a race entry, but COULD be released for the re-enactment on Friday.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:? 319.464.4711
> 
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From billdentin at aol.com  Wed May 22 20:55:31 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 02:55:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Historically Significant Triumph Race Cars. Display at
 The Glen. Two Triumphs needed.
References: <1641135140.3857164.1558580131839.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1641135140.3857164.1558580131839@mail.yahoo.com>

Don?t be silly. ?
All TRIUMPHS are significant!
Bill Dentinger

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
 On?Wednesday, May 22, 2019,?Phil Gott via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Tim Sudard?s Ex Daytona TR 3?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 22, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> FOT:
> 
> We are looking for two candidates for display.
> 
> They would be on display in the IMRRC Facility at Watkins Glen for at least the duration of the SVRA event in September 2019.
> 
> The candidate Cars could not do double duty as a race entry, but COULD be released for the re-enactment on Friday.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:? 319.464.4711
> 
> 
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu May 23 02:24:44 2019
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 04:24:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
In-Reply-To: <009b01d510b2$658dc2b0$30a94810$@neb.rr.com>
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I'll third him, John has been a great help on the Triumph forum and he has
the coolest avatar.

Mike h


On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
> Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
> can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his
> Vitesse
> racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
> John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com
>
> May I have a second?
>
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, Nebraska
>
> This note is from John...
> I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
> to the Great Garage in the Sky.   Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
> SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
> grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
> I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
> Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
> completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
> building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take
> best
> advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
> Ferrari.
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Thu May 23 02:33:24 2019
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (JOHN DAVIES)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:33:24 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
Message-ID: <412421.69811.1558600404333.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>

I am honoured to be nominated to join the Friends of Triumph!
My thanks to all those who put me forward and supported me.
It may be that my current car, SofS, is more historic than I am - I built my previous two race Vitesses, Old Blue from a standard Vitesse, and Silverback from a Herald 13/60 Estate.      SofS was first registered as a road car in 1970, and was modified for racing in about 1980, I don't know who by, but it was raced by Mike "Barney Rubble" Barnes in the UK TSSC series.     It then was owned by Mark Plausin and worked on by John Sadler of "Trioomph", who had his own Vitesse and raced together as a team.      I raced my first, Old Blue Vitesse against them, and I enclose pictures of my car now and then from the 90s, when John was driving it.      Old Blue went to the Great Garage in the Sky in an accident, and I elected to build Silverback as an experiment in aerodynamics.  Inspired by the Volvo estates then racing in the British Touring Car Championship, I went further and built it rear-radiatored, with a front spoiler from Old Blue and side skirts, to minimise undercar airflow.     I can't claim any down force, but I think we had less lift!
Wiped out on the N?rburgring by a Group 2 Porsche, two weeks later I found SofS on sale from the back of Mark Plausin's barn.    It was meant to be mine!    But twelve years of storage,  some ill-advised suspension and engine building had taken their toll, and I transplanted the engine, front and rear suspension from Silverback into it, and named it Son of Silverback, SofS, as it had so many of it's father's parts.      Mark had a GRP coupe roof on it, as had Old Blue because of the Regs of one series we ran in, and after the glasshouse of the estate I found that cramped and pokey.   So I fitted the roof from Old Blue and SofS has its grandfather's hat on as well!
Since then, we've competed in the Classic Sports Car Club Swinging 60s (!) series, been to Le Mans (to visit the Classic) and Spa (to race).   Currently working on a new 2.5L engine to complement the Lucas Pi that is fitted.
Some pics enclosed, of SofS today, and long ago next to Old Blue.   And for completeness, of Silverback in it's pomp.
Best wishes, and looking forward to news of US Triumph racing!
JOhn
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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu May 23 04:15:20 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 06:15:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
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Welcome John!
Phil Gott
65 TR4A

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2019, at 4:33 AM, JOHN DAVIES via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I am honoured to be nominated to join the Friends of Triumph!
> My thanks to all those who put me forward and supported me.
> 
> It may be that my current car, SofS, is more historic than I am - I built my previous two race Vitesses, Old Blue from a standard Vitesse, and Silverback from a Herald 13/60 Estate.      SofS was first registered as a road car in 1970, and was modified for racing in about 1980, I don't know who by, but it was raced by Mike "Barney Rubble" Barnes in the UK TSSC series.     It then was owned by Mark Plausin and worked on by John Sadler of "Trioomph", who had his own Vitesse and raced together as a team.      I raced my first, Old Blue Vitesse against them, and I enclose pictures of my car now and then from the 90s, when John was driving it.      Old Blue went to the Great Garage in the Sky in an accident, and I elected to build Silverback as an experiment in aerodynamics.  Inspired by the Volvo estates then racing in the British Touring Car Championship, I went further and built it rear-radiatored, with a front spoiler from Old Blue and side skirts, to minimise undercar airflow.     I can't claim any down force, but I think we had less lift!
> 
> Wiped out on the N?rburgring by a Group 2 Porsche, two weeks later I found SofS on sale from the back of Mark Plausin's barn.    It was meant to be mine!    But twelve years of storage,  some ill-advised suspension and engine building had taken their toll, and I transplanted the engine, front and rear suspension from Silverback into it, and named it Son of Silverback, SofS, as it had so many of it's father's parts.      Mark had a GRP coupe roof on it, as had Old Blue because of the Regs of one series we ran in, and after the glasshouse of the estate I found that cramped and pokey.   So I fitted the roof from Old Blue and SofS has its grandfather's hat on as well!
> 
> Since then, we've competed in the Classic Sports Car Club Swinging 60s (!) series, been to Le Mans (to visit the Classic) and Spa (to race).   Currently working on a new 2.5L engine to complement the Lucas Pi that is fitted.
> 
> Some pics enclosed, of SofS today, and long ago next to Old Blue.   And for completeness, of Silverback in it's pomp.
> 
> Best wishes, and looking forward to news of US Triumph racing!
> 
> JOhn
> <Nurburgring 2007 019.jpg>
> <Green Vitesse with John Sadler, Pembrey 1994.jpg>
> <Bo'ness 2018.jpg>
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From grandwazoo at earthlink.net  Thu May 23 07:12:34 2019
From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:12:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
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From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Thu May 23 07:22:23 2019
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (DPPI - Mark Craig)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 13:22:23 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
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Mike,

Hey I know you had a good time, and you finished, and you checked off a bucket list item.
Not so bad from my perspective.
Don?t show my grammar to Sandy OK??

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Jackson via Fot
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 8:13 AM
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

Yes, it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vintage TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=0  And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.

I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.

It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3 (thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from being fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru registration and tech with not a flinch.

The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) would have me black flagged.  They did not.

Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and on and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vintage race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.

But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like to achieve.

Mike
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From rikrock at live.com  Thu May 23 07:27:50 2019
From: rikrock at live.com (Rich rock)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 13:27:50 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
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________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Mike Jackson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:12:34 AM
To: fubog1; fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

Yes, it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vintage TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=0  And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.

I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.

It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3 (thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from being fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru registration and tech with not a flinch.

The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) would have me black flagged.  They did not.

Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and on and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vintage race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.

But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like to achieve.

Mike
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu May 23 07:31:20 2019
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:31:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
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Message-ID: <0F972664352D4733845725480CAFE438@VlackTK121647>

Bill Emory is smiling down on you Mike. For those of you who don?t know who Bill Emory is / was; I?ll tell you a bit about him. He was a member of the Steel Cities SCCA and raced a TR3 for more than 40 years mostly at Nelson Ledges in Ohio but at other regional tracks as well. I first met Bill in 1969 while crewing for a friend who raced a TR4. There were parts on his car from Donna Mae Mimms pink TR3 which I believe Tim at Grassroots has as well as Bill?s TR3. Somewhere there is an article about Bill in one of the Steel Cities newsletters who at one point honored him for his racing legend. Maybe someone has a link to that article. So Mike good for you to honor those who went before you, Bill was one of many TR3 SCCA racers.

From: Mike Jackson via Fot 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:12 AM
To: fubog1 ; fot at Autox.Team.Net 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

Yes, it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vintage TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=0  And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.

I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.

It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3 (thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from being fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru registration and tech with not a flinch.

The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) would have me black flagged.  They did not.

Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and on and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vintage race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.

But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like to achieve.  

Mike
  Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires??? 


  I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
  Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...



  Glen



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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Thu May 23 08:09:10 2019
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (JOHN DAVIES)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 15:09:10 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
Message-ID: <4472901.397421.1558620550821.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>

What?    You have to use slicks for your production/modded car racing?    Just the opposite here in the UK - club racing, unless single seaters, uses treaded tyres, often Yokohamas with medium or soft tread.
Each to their own.  
What are the regs for the Kastner Trophy?
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>From : fot at autox.team.net
Date : 23/05/2019 - 14:31 (GMTST)
To : grandwazoo at earthlink.net, fubog1 at aol.com, fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject : Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
Bill Emory is smiling down on you Mike. For those of you who don?t know who 
Bill Emory is / was; I?ll tell you a bit about him. He was a member of the Steel 
Cities SCCA and raced a TR3 for more than 40 years mostly at Nelson Ledges in 
Ohio but at other regional tracks as well. I first met Bill in 1969 while 
crewing for a friend who raced a TR4. There were parts on his car from Donna Mae 
Mimms pink TR3 which I believe Tim at Grassroots has as well as Bill?s TR3. 
Somewhere there is an article about Bill in one of the Steel Cities newsletters 
who at one point honored him for his racing legend. Maybe someone has a link to 
that article. So Mike good for you to honor those who went before you, Bill was 
one of many TR3 SCCA racers.
From: Mike 
Jackson via Fot 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:12 AM
To: fubog1 ; fot at Autox.Team.Net 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded 
tires???
Yes, 
it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vintage 
TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International 
Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=0  
And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.
I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those 
years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the 
requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired 
from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.
It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3 
(thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most 
interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event 
was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the 
perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of 
Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from being 
fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru 
registration and tech with not a flinch.
The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you 
can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my 
friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first 
couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) 
would have me black flagged.  They did not.
Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those 
flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and on 
and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my 
lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vintage 
race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running 
last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year 
friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.
But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like 
to achieve.  
Mike
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires??? 
  
  
  
I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt 
  is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible 
  embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded 
  tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it 
  was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
  
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of 
  white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to 
  the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...
  
  
Glen
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu May 23 10:12:51 2019
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 18:12:51 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR8 IMSA GTO is going to Brands Hatch
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Hi Guys,

 

the next seasons race is round the corner.

Tomorrow morning I leave for Brands Hatch.

We are racing on the GP version, the big track.

 

Have been a while that I was in England.

Thought it would be wise to go there before Britain sets sail to America and leaving the EU.

 

Cheers

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From bschirano at yahoo.com  Thu May 23 20:23:16 2019
From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 02:23:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Hey Friends
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
Normal / Correct??
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

ThanksBrian
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From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be  Fri May 24 04:07:36 2019
From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:07:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Brian, you are right, it's better to correct this : the spring (fingers) are working in a wrong range and it's possible the disc won't disengage and the clutch will fail after some time. When mounting and tightening the pressure plate, the fingers should move inward no more than 2 or 3mm. 
You can correct this by putting washers between the six feet of the PP and the flywheel. These washers ought to be hard steel : shims, not common mild steel washers. 
Marcel 


Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 04:23:16 
Onderwerp: [Fot] laycock clutch question 

Hey Friends 

just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 

Normal / Correct? 

am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please 

Thanks 
Brian 

26A GT6+ 
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585-305-0349 Cell 
BSchirano at yahoo.com 

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From vfracing at aol.com  Fri May 24 04:19:17 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 06:19:17 -0400
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
In-Reply-To: <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952@mail.yahoo.com>
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Brian;
All perfectly normal.
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
Enjoy your new clutch!
Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hey Friends
> 
> just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 
> 
> Normal / Correct? 
> 
> am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please
> 
> Thanks
> Brian
> 
> 26A GT6+
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349 Cell 
> BSchirano at yahoo.com
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From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be  Fri May 24 05:25:55 2019
From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 13:25:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather. 
Marcel. 

Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com> 
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17 
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question 

Brian; 
All perfectly normal. 
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat. 
Enjoy your new clutch! 
Phil Gott 

Sent from my iPhone 

On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: 




Hey Friends 

just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 

Normal / Correct? 

am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please 

Thanks 
Brian 

26A GT6+ 
Brian Schirano 
585-305-0349 Cell 
[ mailto:BSchirano at yahoo.com | BSchirano at yahoo.com ] 



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From bschirano at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 05:30:36 2019
From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:30:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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References: <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I suppose it depressed about three mm. The previous PP had a more distinctive cone shape before and after, but it's been three years since I had to R & R the trans, so memory not too clear.
Will have to do a test as best I can?
ThanksBrian
26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
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    On Friday, May 24, 2019, 7:26:00 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.Marcel.Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
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Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Brian;All perfectly normal.Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.Enjoy your new clutch!Phil Gott

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On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hey Friends
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
Normal / Correct??
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

ThanksBrian
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BSchirano at yahoo.com


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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 24 05:56:23 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:56:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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 If you're using a stock thickness disc, and the PP is to spec, you should be fine.If you use a thicker disc, the PP has to be shimmed accordingly, because the geometry is changed and the over-center/release point will be off.HTH
Glen
 
 
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Sent: Thu, May 23, 2019 10:24 pm
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Hey Friends
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
Normal / Correct??
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

ThanksBrian
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From vfracing at aol.com  Fri May 24 06:31:48 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 08:31:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Marcel, Brian;
I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.
Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
Hope this clears up any confusion.
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote:
> 
> 
> So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
> Marcel.
> Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
> Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
> 
> Brian;
> All perfectly normal.
> Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
> Enjoy your new clutch!
> Phil Gott
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hey Friends
> 
> just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 
> 
> Normal / Correct? 
> 
> am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please
> 
> Thanks
> Brian
> 
> 26A GT6+
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349 Cell 
> BSchirano at yahoo.com
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri May 24 06:56:15 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:56:15 +0000
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I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.  I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.  Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.  Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making?

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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Marcel, Brian;
I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.
Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
Hope this clears up any confusion.
Phil
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On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be<mailto:van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be> wrote:

So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
Marcel.
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Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Brian;
All perfectly normal.
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
Enjoy your new clutch!
Phil Gott
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On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hey Friends

just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.

Normal / Correct?

am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

Thanks
Brian

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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri May 24 07:47:37 2019
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 13:47:37 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Clutches
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While we are on the subject of clutches. I picked up a new to me used Quartermaster 7.25 single disc clutch setup on a Tilton flywheel for my Spitfire.  I haven't found any installation info on line for these. The face of the fingers of the pressure plate is about 3/8 forward compared to a stock setup so I'm guessing I will need to advance the throw out bearing accordingly to compensate. Anything special I need to know about using these?

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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 24 08:36:14 2019
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 14:36:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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 To physically test the action of the clutch, you can set them up on a flywheel sitting on a chassis scale pad, in a press, and measure the load as you pump it up.When it gets to the release point the pressure will be max and then drop off quickly as the plate overcenters.(You can slip a feeler gauge in there to tell the exact release point.)
The thickness of the disc directly affects the geometry that the PP has to work within by design.If the disc is too thin, there will be weak clamping force and it'll slip, and it will take a "long" pedal to release.If too thick, the release will be too high and it will probably slip under load.Generally if I use a thicker disc, I shim the difference between it and a stock disc, and check it in the press if any question.Glen
 
 
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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question  ? Marcel, Brian; I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible. Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP. Hope this clears up any confusion. Phil Sent from my iPhone 
On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote: 
 ? So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather. Marcel. Van:"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
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Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question  ? Brian; All perfectly normal. Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat. Enjoy your new clutch! Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone 
On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
Hey Friends  ? just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?  ? Normal / Correct??  ? am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please  ? Thanks Brian  ? 26A GT6+ Brian Schirano
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From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be  Fri May 24 08:48:40 2019
From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:48:40 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Strongest solution is when the area where the feet are located are a bit lower than the friction area of the flywheel : then the PP is strongly located and eventually the shims should be trimmed . When the flywheel is entirily flush, the location of the PP is less secure. 
If hard steel shims are used, I think this will not be a weak spot? 
Marcel. 

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Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] laycock clutch question 



I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate. I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers. Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix. Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making? 



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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question 




Marcel, Brian; 


I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible. 


Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP. 


Hope this clears up any confusion. 


Phil 


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On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, [ mailto:van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be | van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be ] wrote: 








So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather. 


Marcel. 



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Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17 
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question 





Brian; 


All perfectly normal. 


Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat. 


Enjoy your new clutch! 


Phil Gott 


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Hey Friends 





just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 





Normal / Correct? 





am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please 





Thanks 


Brian 





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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Fri May 24 09:13:18 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:13:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Most good flywheels have locating dowels for the PP as added shear
strength.

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 10:50 AM van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

>
> Strongest solution is when the area where the feet are located are a bit
> lower than the friction area of the flywheel : then the PP is strongly
> located and eventually the shims should be trimmed . When the flywheel is
> entirily flush, the location of the PP is less secure.
> If hard steel shims are used, I think this will not be a weak spot?
> Marcel.
> ------------------------------
> *Van: *"Scott Barr" <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
> *Aan: *"Phil Gott" <vfracing at aol.com>, "van mulders marcel" <
> van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be>, "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Verzonden: *Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 14:56:15
> *Onderwerp: *RE: [Fot] laycock clutch question
>
> I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.  I?ve
> done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.  Seemed to
> work fine, but that was a seat of the pants
> gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.  Anyone think
> that solution is a disaster in the making?
>
>
>
> Scott (B.)
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Phil Gott via Fot
> *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
> *To:* van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be
> *Cc:* fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
>
>
>
> Marcel, Brian;
>
> I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch
> disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are
> incompatible.
>
> Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
>
> Hope this clears up any confusion.
>
> Phil
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote:
>
>
>
> So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it
> still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not
> correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are
> moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not
> correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
>
> Marcel.
> ------------------------------
>
> *Van: *"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Aan: *"Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
> *Cc: *"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Verzonden: *Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
> *Onderwerp: *Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
>
>
>
> Brian;
>
> All perfectly normal.
>
> Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.?
> If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If
> the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face
> should be flat.
>
> Enjoy your new clutch!
>
> Phil Gott
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hey Friends
>
>
>
> just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As
> I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer
> peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the
> clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me
> uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.
>
>
>
> Normal / Correct?
>
>
>
> am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> 26A GT6+
>
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349 Cell
> BSchirano at yahoo.com
>
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 24 09:30:05 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:30:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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 The flywheel has to have locating dowels to maintain concentricity with the clutch housing.The dowels don't normally get any shear load on them, they aren't drive-dogs, the bolt clamping force holds it all in place and clamped down tight.Yes hard shims, soft can crush down and lose bolt torque after awhile.
If the PP loosens up, the locating dowels won't do much to keep it from coming apart...
Glen
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: Van Mulders Marcel <van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 11:13 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Most good flywheels have locating dowels for the PP as added shear strength.? ??
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 10:50 AM van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Strongest solution is when the area where the feet are located are a bit lower than the friction area of the flywheel : then the PP is strongly located and eventually the shims should be trimmed . When the flywheel is entirily flush, the location of the PP is less secure.If hard steel shims are used, I think this will not be a weak spot?Marcel.Van: "Scott Barr" <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Aan: "Phil Gott" <vfracing at aol.com>, "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be>, "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 14:56:15
Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] laycock clutch question

I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.? I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.? Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.? Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making??Scott (B.)?From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
To: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question?Marcel, Brian;I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.Hope this clears up any confusion.PhilSent from my iPhone
On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote:
?So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.Marcel.Van:"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question?Brian;All perfectly normal.Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.Enjoy your new clutch!Phil GottSent from my iPhone
On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
Hey Friends?just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.??Normal / Correct???am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please?ThanksBrian?26A GT6+Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com

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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri May 24 09:42:57 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:42:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
In-Reply-To: <CAMJWJcFjH-VuxYcLdQ_CLfUBkyLUcMsoCArd2UtOUKHKyOC=Pw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I?m trying to think of a time when I was at this stage of putting the car back together and it HADN?T reached a ?moment of desperation?  :-)

With my Spit, I raced a pretty heavy schedule.  Running with both VSCDA and Midwestern Council, I could do 10-15 races a year back in the day.  So I was almost CONSTANTLY in thrash mode between April and November.  Which might explain some of my more interesting mechanical failures.

Scott (B.)

From: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 10:24 AM
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts.

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.  I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.  Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.  Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making?

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
To: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be<mailto:van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Marcel, Brian;
I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.
Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
Hope this clears up any confusion.
Phil
Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be<mailto:van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be> wrote:

So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
Marcel.
________________________________
Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com<mailto:bschirano at yahoo.com>>
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Brian;
All perfectly normal.
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
Enjoy your new clutch!
Phil Gott
Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hey Friends

just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.

Normal / Correct?

am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

Thanks
Brian

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From bschirano at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 10:02:07 2019
From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:02:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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not at the desperation point yet, but getting there! Laundry list is getting longer instead of shorter!
26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
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BSchirano at yahoo.com 

    On Friday, May 24, 2019, 11:43:07 AM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  
I?m trying to think of a time when I was at this stage of putting the car back together and it HADN?T reached a ?moment of desperation?? :-)
 
 ?
 
With my Spit, I raced a pretty heavy schedule.? Running with both VSCDA and Midwestern Council, I could do 10-15 races a year back in the day.? So I was almost CONSTANTLY in thrash mode between April and November.? Which might explain some of my more interesting mechanical failures.
 
 ?
 
Scott (B.)?
 
 ?
 
From: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 10:24 AM
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
 
 ?
 
If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts.?
 
 ?
 
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.? I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.? Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.? Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making?
 
?
 
Scott (B.)
 
?
 
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
To: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be
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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
 
?
 
Marcel, Brian;
 
I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.
 
Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
 
Hope this clears up any confusion.
 
Phil
 
Sent from my iPhone
 

On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote:
 

?
 
So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
 
Marcel.
 
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Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
 
?
 
Brian;
 
All perfectly normal.
 
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
 
Enjoy your new clutch!
 
Phil Gott
 
Sent from my iPhone
 

On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

Hey Friends
 
?
 
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
 
?
 
Normal / Correct??
 
?
 
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please
 
?
 
Thanks
 
Brian
 
?
 
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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 10:51:22 2019
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 24 11:08:48 2019
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 17:08:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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 If you're using a clutch PP from XXX, and a custom racing disc from YYY, those are the "correct" parts.If you're using a complete off-the-shelf clutch kit, there should be absolutely no adjustment/shimming required.Realize also that we're not "spacing" the PP out any distance, the most I've had to do is shim under .030, usually considerably less.The PP is just a big bellville washer that compresses axially with increasing pressure produced (clamping force) as it's compressed, up until the overcenter point, and the pivot points which determine the arm length ratio result in little travel in the plate (ie shimming it) and a lot on the TO bearing contact end.
In other words the shim required is usually pretty thin, it's almost a matter of fine-tuning a given combination, not to correct another problem...

Glen
If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts.?
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>; Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

not at the desperation point yet, but getting there! Laundry list is getting longer instead of shorter!
26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com 

    On Friday, May 24, 2019, 11:43:07 AM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  I?m trying to think of a time when I was at this stage of putting the car back together and it HADN?T reached a ?moment of desperation?? :-)  ? With my Spit, I raced a pretty heavy schedule.? Running with both VSCDA and Midwestern Council, I could do 10-15 races a year back in the day.? So I was almost CONSTANTLY in thrash mode between April and November.? Which might explain some of my more interesting mechanical failures.  ? Scott (B.)?  ? From: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 10:24 AM
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question  ? If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts.?  ? On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.? I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.? Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.? Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making? ? Scott (B.) ? From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question ? Marcel, Brian; I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible. Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP. Hope this clears up any confusion. Phil Sent from my iPhone 
On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote: 
? So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather. Marcel. Van:"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question ? Brian; All perfectly normal. Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat. Enjoy your new clutch! Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone 
On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
Hey Friends ? just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.? ? Normal / Correct?? ? am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please ? Thanks Brian ? 26A GT6+ Brian Schirano
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BSchirano at yahoo.com 

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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Fri May 24 13:50:00 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:50:00 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
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Amici,

Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original Sabrina engines.

Would love to know the asking price...

Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.

A fun addition to any garage!


Brad Eells
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From billdentin at aol.com  Fri May 24 14:37:08 2019
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Amici...
I should say!!!? Maybe Chris will have some inside info for us at some point..
I was always interested those TRS cars (especially the unique TR3S cars).? One discovered in an Illinois garage got away.? I think that is the one The Roadster Factory has, and I think they paid around 15K way back then..
The Sabrinia engine was sexy, but notice it never made it into production.? There had to be a reason why it didn't.
Bill Dentinger

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Amici,

Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original Sabrina engines.

Would love to know the asking price...

Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.

A fun addition to any garage!


Brad Eells
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Fri May 24 14:41:49 2019
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:41:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
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What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment Group,
sell 50 shares and buy one?  I volunteer to be the custodian of one of
them. I have the space and the skills.
Bob Kramer


On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:51 PM Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Amici,
>
> Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up
> for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original
> Sabrina engines.
>
> Would love to know the asking price...
>
> Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.
>
> A fun addition to any garage!
>
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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From bownes at web9.com  Fri May 24 14:56:25 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:56:25 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWvCOO+9wwxBsT1wj050UYR-_pwQaO51in+scCcGjYFvFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
 <CABFvdWvCOO+9wwxBsT1wj050UYR-_pwQaO51in+scCcGjYFvFg@mail.gmail.com>
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Two classes of shares, one includes driving rights, one includes wrenching
and polishing? ;)

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 4:43 PM Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment Group,
> sell 50 shares and buy one?  I volunteer to be the custodian of one of
> them. I have the space and the skills.
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:51 PM Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Amici,
>>
>> Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up
>> for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original
>> Sabrina engines.
>>
>> Would love to know the asking price...
>>
>> Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.
>>
>> A fun addition to any garage!
>>
>>
>> Brad Eells
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From kaskastner at gmail.com  Fri May 24 14:57:14 2019
From: kaskastner at gmail.com (Kas Kastner)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 13:57:14 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <1462850231.7374676.1558730228949@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
 <1462850231.7374676.1558730228949@mail.yahoo.com>
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It was too big, too heavy, too complcicated, to expensive, other than those
things it was just right. Apparently no one noticed those items when the
specifications were being drawn up, nor noticed when the prototype was
built up.


On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:38 PM Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Amici...
>
> I should say!!!  Maybe Chris will have some inside info for us at some
> point..
>
> I was always interested those TRS cars (especially the unique TR3S cars).
> One discovered in an Illinois garage got away.  I think that is the one The
> Roadster Factory has, and I think they paid around 15K way back then..
>
> The Sabrinia engine was sexy, but notice it never made it into
> production.  There had to be a reason why it didn't.
>
> Bill Dentinger
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 12:51 pm
> Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
>
> Amici,
>
> Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up
> for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original
> Sabrina engines.
>
> Would love to know the asking price...
>
> Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.
>
> A fun addition to any garage!
>
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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From mdporter at dfn.com  Fri May 24 15:30:14 2019
From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:30:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
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References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
 <1462850231.7374676.1558730228949@mail.yahoo.com>
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On 5/24/2019 2:57 PM, Kas Kastner via Fot wrote:
> It was too big, too heavy, too complcicated, to expensive, other than 
> those things it was just right. Apparently no one noticed those items 
> when the specifications were being drawn up, nor noticed when the 
> prototype was built up.
>
And, IIRC, the real kiss of death was that the aluminum castings were 
one-offs, and the metal, during casting, apparently did not receive 
proper degassing.? The result was a limited set of porous castings that 
wept oil and coolant when at working temperature, and the problem 
couldn't be solved by substituting parts, because they all had the same 
fault.

This is a problem with any small run of parts that don't receive 
adequate attention from the foundry.? I recall one model of Ferrari 
twelve-cylinder heads that did the same thing.? The cheap fix today is 
to inject the casting with a loose epoxy slurry under pressure and 
refinish all the surfaces.? The expensive one is to reproduce the 
castings using better methods.


Cheers.

-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....




From mark at bradakis.com  Fri May 24 16:13:28 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:13:28 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWvCOO+9wwxBsT1wj050UYR-_pwQaO51in+scCcGjYFvFg@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CABFvdWvCOO+9wwxBsT1wj050UYR-_pwQaO51in+scCcGjYFvFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fb128f84-ad92-3d20-51c9-a625bda6eac0@bradakis.com>

On 5/24/19 2:41 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:
> What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment 
> Group, sell 50 shares and buy one? I volunteer to be the custodian of 
> one of them. I have the space and the skills.
> Bob Kramer
>

Good idea!? I'll throw in ten bucks.? Then again, I just got a raise, 
I'll make it twenty!

mjb.




From bownes at web9.com  Fri May 24 17:06:13 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 19:06:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
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References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
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I think mjb qualifies for a stock grant from the corporation.

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 6:13 PM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> On 5/24/19 2:41 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:
> > What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment
> > Group, sell 50 shares and buy one? I volunteer to be the custodian of
> > one of them. I have the space and the skills.
> > Bob Kramer
> >
>
> Good idea!  I'll throw in ten bucks.  Then again, I just got a raise,
> I'll make it twenty!
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From bschirano at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 19:45:48 2019
From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 01:45:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question - 1st test passed
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Well, today 4 hrs in the garage with some help and the trans and drive shaft is in, Test fired briefly on the jack stands and clutch behavior seems OK.? In next few days I will drop it down and see how the clutch behaves with some load. But I have some other work still before it can be dropped. Will keep you posted
Thanks all
Brian
26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com 

    On Friday, May 24, 2019, 6:19:23 AM EDT, Phil Gott <vfracing at aol.com> wrote:  
 
 Brian;All perfectly normal.Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.Enjoy your new clutch!Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone
On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hey Friends
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
Normal / Correct??
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

ThanksBrian
26A GT6+Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com


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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri May 24 20:38:03 2019
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 02:38:03 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Throwout Bearing
Message-ID: <BYAPR12MB331842B655594BC668086C38BA030@BYAPR12MB3318.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

It looks like there are two different throw-out bearings for Spitfires. One for early, one for late. Anybody happen to know what the difference is?

Thanks,
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Sat May 25 05:47:04 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 11:47:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Throwout Bearing
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 The early cars used a finger type PP, it takes a different release bearing than the later diaphragm type.Glen
 
 
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Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 10:39 pm
Subject: [Fot] Throwout Bearing

 #yiv7414435099 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}It looks like there are two different throw-out bearings for Spitfires. One for early, one for late. Anybody happen to know what the difference is?
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From kaskastner at gmail.com  Sat May 25 09:40:01 2019
From: kaskastner at gmail.com (Kas Kastner)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 08:40:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
Message-ID: <CAGiQU1B_4U1=EKM5JHr+M-534hezw-Of53ZKyEQNMxCxNteO+Q@mail.gmail.com>

I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team
Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had
been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he
was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and
terrific driver.

*Never be beaten by equipment.*
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From mikegranat9 at gmail.com  Sat May 25 10:05:54 2019
From: mikegranat9 at gmail.com (Mike Granat)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 09:05:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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This is heart-breaking news. He was an amazing driver, businessman, and
human being. I followed him around the various California tracks in the
60's in my old,  beat up '58 +4 Morgan, and proudly carry his number 45 on
the +4 I now race in SOVREN in the Northwest. He was a Gentleman, and a
gentle man. I am so sad, and so sorry. My sincerest condolences to his
family, the many great friends of whom Kas I know was the greatest, and to
all of those he inspired. He was a role model, and example of the highest
standard, and a Hero.

On Sat, May 25, 2019, 8:41 AM Kas Kastner via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team
> Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had
> been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he
> was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and
> terrific driver.
>
> *Never be beaten by equipment.*
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat May 25 11:36:13 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 13:36:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?  More Data but nothing obvious
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OK, I re-ran the comp and leakdown tests.  Replaced a gauge that was reading low on the leakdown tester, so I now trust the results. With the exception of #3, leakdown was almost all piston ring leak-by.  #3 had exhaust noise too.

1 - cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 195, prior cold comp 200
2 - cold leak 9%, hot leak 12%, hot comp 175, pcc 180
3 - cold leak 15%, hot leak 16%, hot comp 170, pcc 180
4- cold leak 3%, hot leak 3%, hot comp 195, pcc 195
5- cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 172, pcc 190
6 - cold leak 3%, hot leak 5%,  hot comp 170, pcc 185

The leakdown results look good to me and are probably valve related.  I?m used to seeing higher numbers on a season-old motor.
Compression - I don?t know if the drop on 5 and 6 is normal for cold to hot testing.  What would cause this relative to cylinders with almost no change?
Plugs - Kas asked about the plugs - When I pulled them the first time, the insulators were very light tan, almost white, with tan electrodes - plugs looked the way they usually look in this motor.  After warm-up, they got darker, but not surprising since it was mostly idle time and nothing under load.  No oil on the plugs.  No visible oil coming out the tailpipe, same color back there as usual.
BTW, my lap times on the last session were a second off the weekend best, but so were most of my competitors, so the engine still seems strong.

At this point, unless anyone has more suggestions short of tear-down I guess I?ll run it again as-is.  The oil venting points (two valve cover hoses) have not changed, so there was nothing that would have dumped more oil than usual.  I have no block vent, so nothing to blame there. 

I could have had a mind fart and run with the accusump valve closed (it?s manual) but when I pulled the car off the trailer there was oil and pressure in the accusump, so I must have shut it off full.  Thus, there should not have been excess oil in the pan.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 10:32 PM
> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
> 
> I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and
> lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
> After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
> Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing
> out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
> Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:
> 
> 1 - 200 and 2%
> 2- 180 and 6%
> 3 - 180 and 9%
> 4 - 195 and 0%
> 5 - 190 and 0%
> 6 - 185 and 0%
> 
> Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right,
> as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is
> slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.
> There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at
> idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
> EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored
> cylinders at top speed What do i have - failing rings?
> Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart
> would be appreciated.
> 
> Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
> TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
> GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke Spitfire -
> Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
> Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
> 
> Scott Janzen


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From paulricco at att.net  Sat May 25 12:26:51 2019
From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 13:26:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?  More Data but nothing obvious
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Scott,

When we first bought our car we chased a lot of breathing issues and oil being pushed in strange places.  I ended up fabricating a breather tank so and some custom take-offs to solve our issues.  It allowed me to breath the engine the way we wanted and put the tank where we wanted it.  It has taken a lot of pressure off of the engine seals.

If you do not have a crank breather, then it sounds like the oil has be coming from your valve cover to your catch tank.  Is that a correct assumption?

If so, I have 2 questions:

1.  Did the oil level raise much higher than normal under the valve cover?  Is it possible that something has restricted the oil?s ability to flow from the head back into to crankcase? 
2.  Is your catch tank located lower than the breather take-off?  If it is, then excess oil under the valve cover would have followed the path of lease resistance to your catch tank.

I only ask, because it sounds like for that much liquid to have ended up in the catch tank, the oil level had to have gotten high under the valve cover.

We have friends that run a team that supports about 8 cars.  They honestly admitted to oil level problems being cause by about six people ?checking and topping off the oil? before every session.  Pretty funny, that a pro team could have that kind of fun.  I do not think that is your issue.

My curiosity would be think through the flow of the oil, and why did it end up in the can.

If your only breather is at the valve cover, then there had to have been a lot of oil under there.  Why did it not follow the returns and flow back into the sump?

Paul Ricco 

> On May 25, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> OK, I re-ran the comp and leakdown tests.  Replaced a gauge that was reading low on the leakdown tester, so I now trust the results. With the exception of #3, leakdown was almost all piston ring leak-by.  #3 had exhaust noise too.
> 
> 1 - cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 195, prior cold comp 200
> 2 - cold leak 9%, hot leak 12%, hot comp 175, pcc 180
> 3 - cold leak 15%, hot leak 16%, hot comp 170, pcc 180
> 4- cold leak 3%, hot leak 3%, hot comp 195, pcc 195
> 5- cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 172, pcc 190
> 6 - cold leak 3%, hot leak 5%,  hot comp 170, pcc 185
> 
> The leakdown results look good to me and are probably valve related.  I?m used to seeing higher numbers on a season-old motor.
> Compression - I don?t know if the drop on 5 and 6 is normal for cold to hot testing.  What would cause this relative to cylinders with almost no change?
> Plugs - Kas asked about the plugs - When I pulled them the first time, the insulators were very light tan, almost white, with tan electrodes - plugs looked the way they usually look in this motor.  After warm-up, they got darker, but not surprising since it was mostly idle time and nothing under load.  No oil on the plugs.  No visible oil coming out the tailpipe, same color back there as usual.
> BTW, my lap times on the last session were a second off the weekend best, but so were most of my competitors, so the engine still seems strong.
> 
> At this point, unless anyone has more suggestions short of tear-down I guess I?ll run it again as-is.  The oil venting points (two valve cover hoses) have not changed, so there was nothing that would have dumped more oil than usual.  I have no block vent, so nothing to blame there. 
> 
> I could have had a mind fart and run with the accusump valve closed (it?s manual) but when I pulled the car off the trailer there was oil and pressure in the accusump, so I must have shut it off full.  Thus, there should not have been excess oil in the pan.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 10:32 PM
>> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
>> Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
>> 
>> I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and
>> lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
>> After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
>> Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing
>> out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
>> Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:
>> 
>> 1 - 200 and 2%
>> 2- 180 and 6%
>> 3 - 180 and 9%
>> 4 - 195 and 0%
>> 5 - 190 and 0%
>> 6 - 185 and 0%
>> 
>> Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right,
>> as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is
>> slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.
>> There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at
>> idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
>> EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored
>> cylinders at top speed What do i have - failing rings?
>> Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart
>> would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
>> TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
>> GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke Spitfire -
>> Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
>> Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
>> 
>> Scott Janzen
> 
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat May 25 12:50:12 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 14:50:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?  More Data but nothing obvious
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Hi, Paul, good thoughts, but this is exactly the same breather and catch can configuration I?ve been running for the past six years, with no issues.
There was no oil leaking out around the valve cover gasket itself, though it was blowing out these breather holes and the pinhole in the top of the valve cover cap.
Return of oil to the crank - oil flows back from the head through all of the pushrod galleys.  I cannot see how they could possibly be obstructed.
You do bring up an interesting point - is there possibly substantially more flow to the rocker arm assembly all of a sudden?  The only way this could happen is if there were significant wear on the assembly that now allows a huge oil flow.

This was not a problem that was building all weekend.  I have the bonnet open after every race, have a meticulous engine compartment with a dry engine and clean surfaces - this was a sudden change from the last race saturday to after the only race sunday.

On May 25, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Paul Ricco <paulricco at att.net> wrote:

Scott,

When we first bought our car we chased a lot of breathing issues and oil being pushed in strange places.  I ended up fabricating a breather tank so and some custom take-offs to solve our issues.  It allowed me to breath the engine the way we wanted and put the tank where we wanted it.  It has taken a lot of pressure off of the engine seals.

If you do not have a crank breather, then it sounds like the oil has be coming from your valve cover to your catch tank.  Is that a correct assumption?

If so, I have 2 questions:

1.  Did the oil level raise much higher than normal under the valve cover?  Is it possible that something has restricted the oil?s ability to flow from the head back into to crankcase? 
2.  Is your catch tank located lower than the breather take-off?  If it is, then excess oil under the valve cover would have followed the path of lease resistance to your catch tank.

I only ask, because it sounds like for that much liquid to have ended up in the catch tank, the oil level had to have gotten high under the valve cover.

We have friends that run a team that supports about 8 cars.  They honestly admitted to oil level problems being cause by about six people ?checking and topping off the oil? before every session.  Pretty funny, that a pro team could have that kind of fun.  I do not think that is your issue.

My curiosity would be think through the flow of the oil, and why did it end up in the can.

If your only breather is at the valve cover, then there had to have been a lot of oil under there.  Why did it not follow the returns and flow back into the sump?

Paul Ricco 

> On May 25, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> 
> OK, I re-ran the comp and leakdown tests.  Replaced a gauge that was reading low on the leakdown tester, so I now trust the results. With the exception of #3, leakdown was almost all piston ring leak-by.  #3 had exhaust noise too.
> 
> 1 - cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 195, prior cold comp 200
> 2 - cold leak 9%, hot leak 12%, hot comp 175, pcc 180
> 3 - cold leak 15%, hot leak 16%, hot comp 170, pcc 180
> 4- cold leak 3%, hot leak 3%, hot comp 195, pcc 195
> 5- cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 172, pcc 190
> 6 - cold leak 3%, hot leak 5%,  hot comp 170, pcc 185
> 
> The leakdown results look good to me and are probably valve related.  I?m used to seeing higher numbers on a season-old motor.
> Compression - I don?t know if the drop on 5 and 6 is normal for cold to hot testing.  What would cause this relative to cylinders with almost no change?
> Plugs - Kas asked about the plugs - When I pulled them the first time, the insulators were very light tan, almost white, with tan electrodes - plugs looked the way they usually look in this motor.  After warm-up, they got darker, but not surprising since it was mostly idle time and nothing under load.  No oil on the plugs.  No visible oil coming out the tailpipe, same color back there as usual.
> BTW, my lap times on the last session were a second off the weekend best, but so were most of my competitors, so the engine still seems strong.
> 
> At this point, unless anyone has more suggestions short of tear-down I guess I?ll run it again as-is.  The oil venting points (two valve cover hoses) have not changed, so there was nothing that would have dumped more oil than usual.  I have no block vent, so nothing to blame there. 
> 
> I could have had a mind fart and run with the accusump valve closed (it?s manual) but when I pulled the car off the trailer there was oil and pressure in the accusump, so I must have shut it off full.  Thus, there should not have been excess oil in the pan.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 10:32 PM
>> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
>> Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
>> 
>> I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and
>> lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
>> After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
>> Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing
>> out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
>> Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:
>> 
>> 1 - 200 and 2%
>> 2- 180 and 6%
>> 3 - 180 and 9%
>> 4 - 195 and 0%
>> 5 - 190 and 0%
>> 6 - 185 and 0%
>> 
>> Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right,
>> as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is
>> slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.
>> There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at
>> idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
>> EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored
>> cylinders at top speed What do i have - failing rings?
>> Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart
>> would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
>> TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
>> GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke Spitfire -
>> Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
>> Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
>> 
>> Scott Janzen
> 
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From rjl at gt-classics.com  Sat May 25 18:36:56 2019
From: rjl at gt-classics.com (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 20:36:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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I am very sorry for your loss, and that of his family.&nbsp; Alzheimer's is a horrible
disease.

John
&nbsp;



On Sat, 25 May 2019 08:40:01 -0700, Kas Kastner via Fot  wrote:
&nbsp;
I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and terrific driver.



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From gasket.works at gte.net  Sat May 25 20:25:31 2019
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 02:25:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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I bet you boys?had some?marvelous?moments on the track together. ?

MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2
 On?Saturday, May 25, 2019,?Kas Kastner via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and terrific driver.
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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Sun May 26 14:37:19 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 20:37:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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A great driver that I got to grow up around and learn from. Jerry Barker?

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From kkjjk at aol.com  Sun May 26 17:34:30 2019
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 23:34:30 +0000 (UTC)
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 Thanks for letting us know, Kas.? Losing a best friend is really tough, as I lost mine about seven years ago. My condolences to you as well as his family......-- Jay
 
 
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I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and terrific driver.Never be beaten by equipment._______________________________________________
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon May 27 11:30:26 2019
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 19:30:26 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Brands Hatch - TR8 IMSA GTO
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Hi Guys,

after 42 years the IMSA car has returned to England, its country of production. We faced a strong grid with fast cars and good drivers. The track is very difficult but great fun to drive, with a lot of suspense to the driver as the run of zones are small.

Race1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Mm6szBmos

Race 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIGM5HOPokw

 

Cheers

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From kkjjk at aol.com  Mon May 27 14:49:45 2019
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Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 20:49:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] GT6 Diff
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Hello all-? I am looking for a recommendation for a good differential rebuilder, as I broke a tooth off the pinion gear on my GT6 at Summit Point last weekend on the first practice session.? I didn't know what happened at the time, but the tooth cracked the case on it's way out!? I have another diff that will be coming out of a Spitfire, but I want to install a Quaife limited slip unit in it.? Does anyone know of a good builder whom can do this and rebuild the unit entirely and PROPERLY?? I know of Quantum Mechanics in CT, but have not had good results with that outfit of late.? I am on the East Coast and would prefer to use someone here if possible, but I am open to shipping the diffs wherever if necessary.? Any help is appreciated!? Thanks!? Hope everyone is having a nice Memorial Day.-- Jay De Pol
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Tue May 28 09:50:13 2019
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 15:50:13 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Buying a Spitfire
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Looking for a little help.

My brother-in-law is looking at a 76 Spitfire, he has never owned a British car, but wants a project to work on together and learn with his son who is into cars.

I told him the usual maintenance, etc. story. But I don't know much about Spitfires.

Looked over the car quickly yesterday, body is in good shape, no visible rust except battery box. Interior is old but decent. Will need brake job (really spongy) and rebuild front suspension.

Leaking oil at rear of head gasket (not valve cover) so a replacement will be needed.

Seller is asking $5500.

Is this a decent price (not adjusted for above items)?
Is this a good or bad year to buy?


Thanks, Mike

62 TR4, Race car
63 TR4, Street car

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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 11:34:01 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 17:34:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
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I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.? Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.? Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?? I don't even know where I got it.? I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.? I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.? Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Tue May 28 11:40:05 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 17:40:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Buying a Spitfire
References: <770113620.169391.1559065205491.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <770113620.169391.1559065205491@mail.yahoo.com>

 Just a few things to check-Make sure "no rust" means no rust, any structural rust will be a $$$ job to repair, and yes the tub does provide some rigidity to the structure.Plan on full hydraulic rebuild.Check U-joints, rear axles, hubs.Drive if possible to see if the rear gear R&P whines or if diff gears have lash.Driveline vibrations?
Engine main bearings are prone to failure.Check crank end float.Compression check.Check gearbox for smooth shifts up and down and no excessive whine low & reverse.If the oil leak is directly @ L/H rear, coming from the head gasket, it's likely weeping from the oil feed hole to the top.The rest is pretty much basic car, and any old Spitfire is likely gonna be a project, so in that sense it sounds perfect.Re value, it would have to be a good solid running Spit for that $$, but that's totally subjective.I've long told folks who are getting into Brit sports cars, to try a Spit of Sprite/Midget first, to get a taste of it, and if one can deal with maintenance etc on one of them it's time to step up into a real sports car, a B or big TR, etc.(not to piss off any Spitfire owners...)
HTH.Glen
 
 
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From: Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
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Sent: Tue, May 28, 2019 12:16 pm
Subject: [Fot] Buying a Spitfire

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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 13:04:33 2019
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:04:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
Jamie
    On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.? Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.? Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?? I don't even know where I got it.? I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.? I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.? Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Jack
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 14:50:25 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 20:50:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <25062409.673410.1559070273991@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Thanks Jamie.? I have a 1971 MGB that came with the original jack, and it is different.? It has a rod that extends horizontally from the jack and slides into a tube under the side of the car.? It lifts one side of the car.? Could they have used a different jack in different years, either earlier or later than mine?
Not sure about Austin Marina, I've never owned one of those and I'm not sure where I would have picked up a jack for one.? Anyone else have any suggestions?
Regards,
Jack

    On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 3:04:36 PM EDT, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:  
 
  Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
Jamie
    On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.? Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.? Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?? I don't even know where I got it.? I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.? I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.? Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Jack
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Tue May 28 15:28:14 2019
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 16:28:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <822366750.7145357.1559076625592@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321@mail.yahoo.com>
 <25062409.673410.1559070273991@mail.yahoo.com>
 <822366750.7145357.1559076625592@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABFvdWt__=DNqh8hK2E6LULzExRuUDLZfRHdHxH98OU-+MnPmg@mail.gmail.com>

Look up the PN in Google pictures. Says something about later e-types,
Austin Morris I believe.

Bob Kramer


On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:50 PM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks Jamie.  I have a 1971 MGB that came with the original jack, and it
> is different.  It has a rod that extends horizontally from the jack and
> slides into a tube under the side of the car.  It lifts one side of the
> car.  Could they have used a different jack in different years, either
> earlier or later than mine?
>
> Not sure about Austin Marina, I've never owned one of those and I'm not
> sure where I would have picked up a jack for one.  Anyone else have any
> suggestions?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jack
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 3:04:36 PM EDT, Jamie Palmer <
> tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
>
> Jamie
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had
> taking up space for many years.  Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.
> Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?  I don't even know
> where I got it.  I have owned all of the British marques over the years and
> I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.  I'm most familiar
> with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.  Could be MG, Jag,
> Healy, or other.
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
>
> Jack
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From bownes at seiri.com  Tue May 28 15:37:56 2019
From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 17:37:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Squaretail Spit trunk lid
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOROQTcGtbCZVAftJU6g3iMCQ4kYVEQeHked1p+9=V6sFw@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone need one? I tripped over one in my garage over the weekend. Not
really sure why I have it, but I don't need it. Stripped, prepped, ready to
paint. In great shape.

Located outside Albany NY.

Still looking for someone to take my GT6 too. :(

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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Tue May 28 16:24:44 2019
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 18:24:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWt__=DNqh8hK2E6LULzExRuUDLZfRHdHxH98OU-+MnPmg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321@mail.yahoo.com>
 <25062409.673410.1559070273991@mail.yahoo.com>
 <822366750.7145357.1559076625592@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CABFvdWt__=DNqh8hK2E6LULzExRuUDLZfRHdHxH98OU-+MnPmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6B177E68-3996-47F8-AA08-94EBBCF59F16@gmail.com>

Definitely not for a Morgan.
Duncan

> On May 28, 2019, at 5:28 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Look up the PN in Google pictures. Says something about later e-types, Austin Morris I believe.
> 
> Bob Kramer
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:50 PM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> Thanks Jamie.  I have a 1971 MGB that came with the original jack, and it is different.  It has a rod that extends horizontally from the jack and slides into a tube under the side of the car.  It lifts one side of the car.  Could they have used a different jack in different years, either earlier or later than mine?
> 
> Not sure about Austin Marina, I've never owned one of those and I'm not sure where I would have picked up a jack for one.  Anyone else have any suggestions?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jack
> 
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 3:04:36 PM EDT, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com <mailto:tr6driver at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
> 
> Jamie
> 
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.  Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.  Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?  I don't even know where I got it.  I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.  I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.  Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
> 
> Jack
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 17:47:14 2019
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (James Palmer)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:47:14 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <822366750.7145357.1559076625592@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <0A1E6583-6C04-4F9A-927F-9D52F8C86FA4@yahoo.com>

It looks just like my 1975 Marina jack, color included.  Perhaps fits other stuff too though!

Jamie Palmer

> On May 28, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jamie.  I have a 1971 MGB that came with the original jack, and it is different.  It has a rod that extends horizontally from the jack and slides into a tube under the side of the car.  It lifts one side of the car.  Could they have used a different jack in different years, either earlier or later than mine?
> 
> Not sure about Austin Marina, I've never owned one of those and I'm not sure where I would have picked up a jack for one.  Anyone else have any suggestions?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jack
> 
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 3:04:36 PM EDT, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
> 
> Jamie
> 
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.  Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.  Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?  I don't even know where I got it.  I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.  I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.  Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
> 
> Jack
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From mark at bradakis.com  Tue May 28 19:18:42 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:18:42 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Squaretail Spit trunk lid
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1+nOROQTcGtbCZVAftJU6g3iMCQ4kYVEQeHked1p+9=V6sFw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <0d7ae063-0a2f-de9c-97dd-4e10fdee808f@bradakis.com>

On 5/28/19 3:37 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
>
>
> Still looking for someone to take my GT6 too. :(
>

Trailer it to my house, I'll help you unload it.

mjb.




From mark at bradakis.com  Tue May 28 22:27:44 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 22:27:44 -0600
Subject: [Fot] The journey of a thousand miles...
Message-ID: <6f4d2da9-1df7-dbe8-06bd-b06f124cd877@bradakis.com>

Was a nice day here in Salt Lake, actually spent a few minutes out in 
the garage.? What a mess.? Going to take some work to get it to where I 
can actually work on cars again. Still think I should be able to at 
least get the Killer Spit to a late season autocross or two this year.

Downloaded the Pegasus catalog for perusal at my convenience. Gee, 
prices have changed a bit since I last bought a helmet and fireproof 
underwear.? Any other suppliers I should be checking out these days?

mjb.


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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May 29 18:54:49 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 18:54:49 -0600
Subject: [Fot] A proud member of ???
Message-ID: <308386ae-b58c-693c-ac09-708fc4fe7f18@bradakis.com>

SO in furtherance of getting Killer back on track, I should probably 
join up with some vintage racing group.? RMVR in Colorado seems like my 
best bet, based on proximity.? Was a member many years ago, back in the 
day of the street races in Avon and Steamboat.? Would VARA be worth my 
trouble?? Any others?

There used to a group here in Utah, Intermountain Vintage Racing.? It 
was a rather hodge podge of a few random folks, did some hill climbs and 
ran "road" races out at the old Wendover airport.? The "track" was 
basically a mile long autocross, cone lined run around the worst of the 
broken concrete and potholes of the old airfield.? The fellow who ran it 
back then got tired of the amount of energy, time and money it was 
costing him to keep it alive, and kind of burned out on racing and 
sports cars altogether.? At least there's a real race track in the area 
now, but as far as I know no one else has stepped up to revive or 
replace IVR in Utah.? Too bad.

mjb.




From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Thu May 30 06:12:40 2019
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 12:12:40 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Buying a Spitfire
Message-ID: <BL0PR04MB45777F059126EAEA1DF662BDB4180@BL0PR04MB4577.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks for everyone's input. He is going to pass on this one.

Thanks
Mike

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From spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com  Thu May 30 07:18:27 2019
From: spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 09:18:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] MOSPORT ehh!
Message-ID: <001d01d516ea$2cc1e2c0$8645a840$@rr.com>

One of the highlights of the vintage racing scene in the Northeast in June
is the VARAC event at Mosport (now officially called Canadian Tire
Motorsport Park)in  Bowmanville, Ontario. Those that have never been there
should experience it at least once. Currently there is a $100 discount until
June 1st. Realize also with the exchange rate, this is a very reasonably
priced event. Crossing into Canada is easy and camping is free with plenty
of paddock space. It?s an experience to not be missed. Our hosts provide
entertainment and a roaming dinner on Friday night, usually consisting of a
number of types of wings; subs; beverages and deserts. and also there is a
banquet on Saturday night. 

 

A number of Triumph folks are regulars at this event.

I will be doing tech again this year and can answer any questions.  

 

To coin an old clich?, ?Try it you?ll like it!?

 

The Triumph and MGs will be in the paddock area at the exit from the false
grid.

Can I get a head count? Once again there is a Triumph/MG Challenge with the
awarding of the Group 44 Inc Trophy.

 

Russ Moore

Spitfire #49

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 30 07:35:24 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 08:35:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] MOSPORT ehh!
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One of the best.

Great memories.

Our first Kastner Cup.

I hope that Sean, Mark, and Brendan can experience this track some day.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 30, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Spitfire Racing via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> One of the highlights of the vintage racing scene in the Northeast in June is the VARAC event at Mosport (now officially called Canadian Tire Motorsport Park)in  Bowmanville, Ontario. Those that have never been there should experience it at least once. Currently there is a $100 discount until June 1st. Realize also with the exchange rate, this is a very reasonably priced event. Crossing into Canada is easy and camping is free with plenty of paddock space. It?s an experience to not be missed. Our hosts provide entertainment and a roaming dinner on Friday night, usually consisting of a number of types of wings; subs; beverages and deserts. and also there is a banquet on Saturday night.
>  
> A number of Triumph folks are regulars at this event.
> I will be doing tech again this year and can answer any questions.  
>  
> To coin an old clich?, ?Try it you?ll like it!?
>  
> The Triumph and MGs will be in the paddock area at the exit from the false grid.
> Can I get a head count? Once again there is a Triumph/MG Challenge with the awarding of the Group 44 Inc Trophy.
>  
> Russ Moore
> Spitfire #49
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu May 30 08:37:44 2019
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 10:37:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] MOSPORT ehh!
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Then there is the 170 minutes of track time on the schedule. Just shy of 
3 hours on Mosport, the track that so many racing greats have called 
their favorite.

It's a fantastic event put on by a very well run organization at an epic 
track. Anybody within towing distance should consider it. I'll see you 
there, Russ!



On 2019-05-30 09:18, Russ Moore via Fot wrote:
> One of the highlights of the vintage racing scene in the Northeast in
> June is the VARAC event at Mosport (now officially called Canadian
> Tire Motorsport Park)in  Bowmanville, Ontario. Those that have never
> been there should experience it at least once. Currently there is a
> $100 discount until June 1st. Realize also with the exchange rate,
> this is a very reasonably priced event. Crossing into Canada is easy
> and camping is free with plenty of paddock space. It's an experience
> to not be missed. Our hosts provide entertainment and a roaming dinner
> on Friday night, usually consisting of a number of types of wings;
> subs; beverages and deserts. and also there is a banquet on Saturday
> night.


From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Thu May 30 09:18:09 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 15:18:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] MGB for sale
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  I know this is not a Triumph, but I'm also sure many folks, like myself, have owned both Triumphs and MG's.? I have no interest in this, except helping a very nice woman sell a car that her father bought when it was nearly new.
  Below is some information about a 1975 MGB that is for sale.? I've known this car for many years.? It was owned by a guy who lived next door to my parents in Corning, NY, and died way to young.? His daughter took over the car and has had a lot of work done on it, since she has had it.? She is now wanting to sell it, and has asked me to forward the information to people who might be interested, or know someone who might be interested, in buying it.? If you have questions, or want more information, please contact her directly at koconnor673 at hotmail.com.? Her name is Kimberly Oconnor.? I can confirm that the car is very straight and solid, and has been well taken care of, although it has been a number of years since I have seen it.? She is asking $10K, but the price is negotiable.? Thanks.
Jack Wheeler
Kimberly says:

   Would love if you knew anyone looking. ?It's been well taken care of and want to see it go to a good home.?

1975 MG B Convertible??
    
   - One Family has owned for last 44 years (Husband & Wife and now their Daughter)
   - 53, 799 miles
   - British Racing Green (was originally Harvest Gold ? repainted in ?96)
   - Original Top & Interior
   - 1996 engine rebuilt
   - 1996 body work completed (new front fenders & back rocker panels replaced)
   - 2016 Engine refresh
   - 2016 Evans waterless coolant put in
   - 2016 Stromberg Carb rebuild
   - 2016 New Battery
   - 2016 New Brakes
   - 2016 New Stereo
   - Has a Nylon cover
   - Has MG embossed floor mats
   - Original spare tire
   - Needs a good home
-?????????????????????? 
    
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From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Thu May 30 10:30:00 2019
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (DPPI - Mark Craig)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 16:30:00 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
Message-ID: <d1668d4fa288489bb666bb3e71f960b3@dieselperformanceparts.com>

Membership,

Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 30 10:38:15 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 11:38:15 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
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Mark, FOT, 

We have REAR ALUMINUM PLATES for both Spitfire and TR6.

They are not the same.

While I am at it, we will discount these to interested FOT.

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 30, 2019, at 11:30 AM, DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Membership,
>  
> Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??
>  
> <image001.png>
>  
> MARK CRAIG
> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc.
> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211
> www.dieselperformanceparts.com
> <image002.jpg> <image003.jpg> <image004.jpg> <image005.jpg>
>  
>  
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> Fax: 615-834-9923
> Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu May 30 12:16:24 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 18:16:24 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
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Will a TR6 rear plate bolt up to a Spitfire block?

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via Fot
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:38 AM
To: DPPI - Mark Craig <info at dieselperformanceparts.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Bellhousing info

Mark, FOT,

We have REAR ALUMINUM PLATES for both Spitfire and TR6.

They are not the same.

While I am at it, we will discount these to interested FOT.

Regards,
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4505 Donald Dr
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Membership,

Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??

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From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com  Thu May 30 12:20:42 2019
From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 13:20:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
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Spit starter is on the drivers side and so easy to get to, TR6 is on the passenger side under the @$*% carbs and exhaust manifold, which is probably okay with a stock set up but quite difficult to get to with triple webers and a header.

Dusty 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 11:30 AM, DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Membership,
>  
> Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??
>  
> <image001.png>
>  
> MARK CRAIG
> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc.
> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211
> www.dieselperformanceparts.com
> <image002.jpg> <image003.jpg> <image004.jpg> <image005.jpg>
>  
>  
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> Fax: 615-834-9923
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Thu May 30 13:17:00 2019
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 15:17:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
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Yes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Will a TR6 rear plate bolt up to a Spitfire block?
>  
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via Fot
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:38 AM
> To: DPPI - Mark Craig <info at dieselperformanceparts.com>
> Cc: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Bellhousing info
>  
> Mark, FOT, 
>  
> We have REAR ALUMINUM PLATES for both Spitfire and TR6.
>  
> They are not the same.
>  
> While I am at it, we will discount these to interested FOT.
>  
> Regards,
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
>  
> 
> On May 30, 2019, at 11:30 AM, DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Membership,
>  
> Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??
>  
> <image001.png>
>  
> MARK CRAIG
> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc.
> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211
> www.dieselperformanceparts.com
> <image002.jpg> <image003.jpg> <image004.jpg> <image005.jpg>
>  
>  
> Phone: 615-834-0066
> Fax: 615-834-9923
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Thu May 30 13:31:06 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 12:31:06 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FOT Nomination - Jonathan Wright
Message-ID: <CACZdCPX7-nB=9cqcrGMEjuvv4h1wWcGekRWSXGDrKzn3gqA9hw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Amici,

I would like to nominate Jonathan Wright to our esteemed group. Today he
has purchased the #93 Black Spitfire out of the Joe Siam stable. He will be
running with VARA as soon as he has the car in shape...it's been stabled
for a while...

Jonathan also has a Spitfire Mk2 for the street that is just coming through
a restoration.

He must be serious...he bought his fire suit before he bought the car!

Do I have a second for Jonathan?

His Email address is: Jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com

Cheers,


*Brad Eells*
*Chino CA*
*#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3*
*#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4*
*1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!*
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 30 13:36:04 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 14:36:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
Message-ID: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>

Wow! I didn?t realize that.

We have aluminum rear engine plates and will look at FOT discount.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 30, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Chuck Gee <chasgee22 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 30, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrot=
> e:
>> =20
>> Will a TR6 rear plate bolt up to a Spitfire block?
>> =20
>> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via Fot
>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:38 AM
>> To: DPPI - Mark Craig <info at dieselperformanceparts.com>
>> Cc: fot at autox.team.net
>> Su


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu May 30 13:40:45 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 19:40:45 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FOT Nomination - Jonathan Wright
In-Reply-To: <CACZdCPX7-nB=9cqcrGMEjuvv4h1wWcGekRWSXGDrKzn3gqA9hw@mail.gmail.com>
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Second!

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Brad Eells via Fot
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 2:31 PM
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: Jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com
Subject: [Fot] FOT Nomination - Jonathan Wright

Hello Amici,

I would like to nominate Jonathan Wright to our esteemed group. Today he has purchased the #93 Black Spitfire out of the Joe Siam stable. He will be running with VARA as soon as he has the car in shape...it's been stabled for a while...

Jonathan also has a Spitfire Mk2 for the street that is just coming through a restoration.

He must be serious...he bought his fire suit before he bought the car!

Do I have a second for Jonathan?

His Email address is: Jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com<mailto:Jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com>

Cheers,


Brad Eells
Chino CA
#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3
#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4
1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!
[https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1HyYLxa1_Lz_Q0kLM3GRJryNDgfOwZyUc&revid=0B9vVTDWaFCqFVmR6Q1FsMExZTHVLcHpja3BpSC9ucGcveHdJPQ]

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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu May 30 17:27:18 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 17:27:18 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
In-Reply-To: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
References: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
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I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 
block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.

mjb.




From mark at bradakis.com  Thu May 30 17:34:14 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 17:34:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
Message-ID: <d0bf1c3b-4ef9-4256-3ef5-387983b2949f@bradakis.com>

I certainly would have seconded, had others not already done so. 
Jonathon used to live in Utah, he's been to my place before. Welcome to 
the list!

And speaking of racing Spitfires, I will be checking out this group that 
races here in Utah.? Porbably not an ideal group for a Spitfire, but it 
could get me some track time, one way or another.

http://www.nasautah.com

Turns out it is currently being run by some of my old autocross 
buddies.? We'll see how it goes.

mjb.




From jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com  Thu May 30 19:29:08 2019
From: jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com (Jonathan Wright)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 18:29:08 -0700
Subject: [Fot] New guy! Introduction.
Message-ID: <EAB3E58B-958F-4934-994A-D5C73699A037@gmail.com>

Hello all,
I appreciate the warm welcome. I have been a British car fan for about 12 years now. Having had MGBs a Rover Mini, and a few spitfires. The goal has always been to do vintage road racing. I went to the British Extravaganza at buttonwillow this year to photograph the event and meet Brad Ellis in person (we have been Facebook friends for a bit). I knew I had to start road racing. I couldn?t wait any longer. As Mark said, he helped me with my first spitfire about ten years ago, he gave me a little tour of killer spit and reminisced about the glory days of autocross, he also sold me a very nice boot lid for my 73. I just purchased Joe Siam?s black spitfire that had been used as a rental racecar for many years. If any of you have any experience with that specific car, 93 fp, I would love to collect your stories! 
I look forward to getting to know you all and hope to see some of you at the track! 
Jonathan Wright
Here is the car in all of its dusty glory,
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Thu May 30 21:09:13 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 20:09:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] New guy! Introduction.
In-Reply-To: <EAB3E58B-958F-4934-994A-D5C73699A037@gmail.com>
References: <EAB3E58B-958F-4934-994A-D5C73699A037@gmail.com>
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Welcome aboard Jonathan! Good to have more west coat Spitfire racers...we?ll talk about initiation later...

I?m not the new guy anymore!

Cheers,


Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 6:29 PM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I appreciate the warm welcome. I have been a British car fan for about 12 years now. Having had MGBs a Rover Mini, and a few spitfires. The goal has always been to do vintage road racing. I went to the British Extravaganza at buttonwillow this year to photograph the event and meet Brad Ellis in person (we have been Facebook friends for a bit). I knew I had to start road racing. I couldn?t wait any longer. As Mark said, he helped me with my first spitfire about ten years ago, he gave me a little tour of killer spit and reminisced about the glory days of autocross, he also sold me a very nice boot lid for my 73. I just purchased Joe Siam?s black spitfire that had been used as a rental racecar for many years. If any of you have any experience with that specific car, 93 fp, I would love to collect your stories! 
> I look forward to getting to know you all and hope to see some of you at the track! 
> Jonathan Wright
> Here is the car in all of its dusty glory,
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> <image2.jpeg>
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From britracer89 at yahoo.com  Fri May 31 03:25:55 2019
From: britracer89 at yahoo.com (Brian Dennis)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 09:25:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
In-Reply-To: <0be447d0-4bc8-26c8-a58d-cd85b07f9256@bradakis.com>
References: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
 <0be447d0-4bc8-26c8-a58d-cd85b07f9256@bradakis.com>
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The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the above. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least all that I have seen.?
Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is on the left side vs the tr6 & gt6 are on the right. Therefore the six cylinder engine plate will not work on the four cylinder motor. Between the early and late four cylinder engine plates they will all bolt on however I believe the later plates have an extra bolt hole or two vs the early 4 cylinder.?

This is all from memory. Hope it is helpful.Brian


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 7:27 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 
block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.

mjb.


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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 31 05:16:31 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 06:16:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
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References: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
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 <375991481.8636793.1559294755373@mail.yahoo.com>
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The TR6 and the GT6 plates are not the same....at least not as we manufacture them in Iowa. We have two part numbers.

I was unaware that the TR6 plate would bolt onto the later Spitfires.

Perhaps some can summarize the potential interchanges?

In the mean time, I had inquiries for a FOT Prices. Good for a week.  Here?s your chance. We?ve sold a few plates for Conversions, but didn?t realize there was that much interest.

GT6.  Rear Plate.  $75 plus shipping
TR6.  Rear Plate.   $75 plus shipping
Spit.   Rear Plate.  $65 plus shipping

TR3.  Front Plate.  $125 plus shipping
TR4.  Front Plate.  $125 plus shipping
Morgan                      $115 plus shipping 
TR6/GT6.                  $ 60 plus shipping

Big Discount. And all in stock.

Thanks,



Joe Alexander
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The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 31, 2019, at 4:25 AM, Brian Dennis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the above. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least all that I have seen. 
> 
> Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is on the left side vs the tr6 & gt6 are on the right. Therefore the six cylinder engine plate will not work on the four cylinder motor. Between the early and late four cylinder engine plates they will all bolt on however I believe the later plates have an extra bolt hole or two vs the early 4 cylinder. 
> 
> This is all from memory. Hope it is helpful.
> Brian
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 7:27 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 
> block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.
> 
> mjb.
> 
> 
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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri May 31 06:14:03 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 08:14:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
In-Reply-To: <375991481.8636793.1559294755373@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
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I have a TR6 box in my GT6.  The only difference between the gearboxes is two extra flange bolts on the Tr6 bellhousing, for which holes can easily be drilled on the plate.  the rear of the engine block is identical and the  plate bolts right up as the blocks are essentially the same (a bit more block stiffening in sides of the later TR6 blocks, I think).  Starter lines right up on the same flywheel.
Can?t speak for Spitfire.

On May 31, 2019, at 5:25 AM, Brian Dennis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the above. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least all that I have seen. 

Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is on the left side vs the tr6 & gt6 are on the right. Therefore the six cylinder engine plate will not work on the four cylinder motor. Between the early and late four cylinder engine plates they will all bolt on however I believe the later plates have an extra bolt hole or two vs the early 4 cylinder. 

This is all from memory. Hope it is helpful.
Brian


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On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 7:27 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 <tel:12961500> 
block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.

mjb.



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From jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com  Fri May 31 11:17:33 2019
From: jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com (Jonathan Wright)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 10:17:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
Message-ID: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>

I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it? 
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Fri May 31 11:33:59 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 10:33:59 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F6751F7B-5F14-474F-A35D-402C34008C00@gmail.com>

Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.

Somewhere in the Midwest?

Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?

Car; number? Driver? Etc?

All of that can help...

Cheers,


Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it? 
> Thanks in advance. 
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 31 11:51:40 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 12:51:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <F6751F7B-5F14-474F-A35D-402C34008C00@gmail.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <00AFC35F-D328-46D5-8B54-937AEB75147C@gmail.com>

That?s Old Blue. Once owned by a guy that was in my employee.

Jack and I pulled it out of his garage, when Jack decided to go Vintage Racing. Some great stories behind all this.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 31, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.
> 
> Somewhere in the Midwest?
> 
> Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?
> 
> Car; number? Driver? Etc?
> 
> All of that can help...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it? 
>> Thanks in advance. 
>> <image1.jpeg>
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Fri May 31 12:07:05 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 11:07:05 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <00AFC35F-D328-46D5-8B54-937AEB75147C@gmail.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
 <F6751F7B-5F14-474F-A35D-402C34008C00@gmail.com>
 <00AFC35F-D328-46D5-8B54-937AEB75147C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C361424B-CA68-40E2-9CC1-2BDD50737854@gmail.com>

I remember some of those stories from the dawn of my time in FOT. And some frightening video that led to New Blue...

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That?s Old Blue. Once owned by a guy that was in my employee.
> 
> Jack and I pulled it out of his garage, when Jack decided to go Vintage Racing. Some great stories behind all this.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.
>> 
>> Somewhere in the Midwest?
>> 
>> Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?
>> 
>> Car; number? Driver? Etc?
>> 
>> All of that can help...
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Brad Eells
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it? 
>>> Thanks in advance. 
>>> <image1.jpeg>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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>>> 
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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri May 31 15:03:41 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 15:03:41 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d5323f86-497e-8152-688a-7d6f23d9773d@bradakis.com>

Sorry to say I have no information regarding that Spitfire.? It did 
remind me that many times over the last few years I wish I was better 
organized, and had kept records of dates, purchase and selling price, 
etc. of every Triumph that passed through my hands, like The Rust 
Rocket, Killer Junior, The White Car, my TR250, countless GT6 and Spit 
projects, parts cars, etc.

Oh well.

mjb.




From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 31 16:41:44 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 17:41:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 2018 KCup T-Shirts.  Anybody have a new x-large.
Message-ID: <0A2BBA61-4194-495D-8182-C3DF375A98E1@gmail.com>

Somebody from Georgia really wants KCup shirts from 2018.

Let me know if there is one available.

The shirts were so popular at Buttonwillow, they ran out and now doing a special run to satisfy continuing requests.

Posters are available, as I ran a short run of those.

I guess we are pretty popular.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711



From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri May 31 17:30:48 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 18:30:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <C361424B-CA68-40E2-9CC1-2BDD50737854@gmail.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
 <F6751F7B-5F14-474F-A35D-402C34008C00@gmail.com>
 <00AFC35F-D328-46D5-8B54-937AEB75147C@gmail.com>
 <C361424B-CA68-40E2-9CC1-2BDD50737854@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <97775907-1f36-8ba7-a892-63187cb5871b@tonydrews.com>

Here's me removing the surrey top from that one.? Got changed from 4:3 
aspect ratio to 16:9 by youtube somewhere so it's kinda wiiiide now.

https://youtu.be/PX82xKLZ2JE

Don't have any pics of the spitfire though.

Cheers, Tony

On 5/31/2019 1:07 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote:
> I remember some of those stories from the dawn of my time in FOT. And some frightening video that led to New Blue...
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That?s Old Blue. Once owned by a guy that was in my employee.
>>
>> Jack and I pulled it out of his garage, when Jack decided to go Vintage Racing. Some great stories behind all this.
>>
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>>
>>
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.
>>>
>>> Somewhere in the Midwest?
>>>
>>> Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?
>>>
>>> Car; number? Driver? Etc?
>>>
>>> All of that can help...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Eells
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it?
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> <image1.jpeg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>>
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>>>>
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri May 31 21:57:55 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 03:57:55 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <97775907-1f36-8ba7-a892-63187cb5871b@tonydrews.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
 <F6751F7B-5F14-474F-A35D-402C34008C00@gmail.com>
 <00AFC35F-D328-46D5-8B54-937AEB75147C@gmail.com>
 <C361424B-CA68-40E2-9CC1-2BDD50737854@gmail.com>,
 <97775907-1f36-8ba7-a892-63187cb5871b@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <CY4PR15MB18793B615E1BF7481DD81EF1E11A0@CY4PR15MB1879.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

The other thing that frightening video led to was a whole bunch of Southwick axles that are still keeping TR4s right side up today.



Scott Barr
McCarty Law LLP
(920) 257-2233

________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:30:48 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire

Here's me removing the surrey top from that one.  Got changed from 4:3
aspect ratio to 16:9 by youtube somewhere so it's kinda wiiiide now.

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FPX82xKLZ2JE&amp;data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7Cc267d5089f76453fc02108d6e62015cd%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C636949422816367439&amp;sdata=PvNyTf8RCjx%2FSaWTBKK87NDw6x%2BFwCJz%2FwfYMZC%2FiBw%3D&amp;reserved=0

Don't have any pics of the spitfire though.

Cheers, Tony

On 5/31/2019 1:07 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote:
> I remember some of those stories from the dawn of my time in FOT. And some frightening video that led to New Blue...
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That?s Old Blue. Once owned by a guy that was in my employee.
>>
>> Jack and I pulled it out of his garage, when Jack decided to go Vintage Racing. Some great stories behind all this.
>>
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>>
>>
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.
>>>
>>> Somewhere in the Midwest?
>>>
>>> Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?
>>>
>>> Car; number? Driver? Etc?
>>>
>>> All of that can help...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Eells
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it?
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> <image1.jpeg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>>
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Wed May  1 08:53:08 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Kenneth Knight)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 07:53:08 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <002101d5002d$979cc660$c6d65320$@klaenv.com>

Hello All;

 

I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.  I am staying part
way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from
Canada.

 

The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA
get things set up.  We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don't
have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.  There
will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.
So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.

 

Cheers, Ken

 

PS;  The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm
to hot.

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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:49:48 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:49:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <002101d5002d$979cc660$c6d65320$@klaenv.com>
References: <002101d5002d$979cc660$c6d65320$@klaenv.com>
Message-ID: <506976567.2868770.1556725788403@mail.yahoo.com>

Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry Barker?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
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Hello All;

 ?

I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.? I am staying part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from Canada.

 ?

The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA get things set up.? We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.? There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.? So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.

 ?

Cheers, Ken

 ?

PS;? The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm to hot.
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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:49:48 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:49:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry Barker?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
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Hello All;

 ?

I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.? I am staying part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from Canada.

 ?

The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA get things set up.? We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.? There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.? So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.

 ?

Cheers, Ken

 ?

PS;? The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm to hot.
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed May  1 11:01:04 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 10:01:04 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Will be there shortly. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 1, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Jerry Barker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry Barker 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot
> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Hello All;
> 
>  
> 
> I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.  I am staying part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from Canada.
> 
>  
> 
> The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA get things set up.  We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.  There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.  So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers, Ken
> 
>  
> 
> PS;  The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm to hot.
> 
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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May  1 12:19:15 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 12:19:15 -0600
Subject: [Fot] On my way!
Message-ID: <50f925bc-4ef4-ff00-1171-68d3c9b1a65f@bradakis.com>

Got a nice little maroon Hyundai Santa Fe, should get me there.

Next email from my laptop somewhere down the road.? See some of you soon!

mjb.




From waldoracer at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 15:27:42 2019
From: waldoracer at yahoo.com (Ralf Schreyer)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 21:27:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] race spitfire rebirth
References: <785250362.3486392.1556746063315.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <785250362.3486392.1556746063315@mail.yahoo.com>

hello all, I stumbled on this F prod 64 spit on Face Book. It was built and driven by Robert Kuczek. The car last raced 1981 when it was crashed at Road America during SCCA qualifying on 1st lap at turn 1, was then placed in garage for last 38 years. It has in car 1147 bored ,020 over, forged pistons, 12:1 compression, Deves stainless rings, blueprinted block and crank, ported, polished, and flowed head, chromoly hollow pushrods, John Stanford camshaft and modified rocker arms, trap door baffled oil pan with windage tray. The motor was run 2 practice seasons and crashed then crashed. Here it is at its new home Thanks All Ralf
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Wed May  1 15:42:45 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 14:42:45 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed May  1 17:12:27 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (tony at tonydrews.com)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 19:12:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <20190501215244.021FCA182C@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <20190501191227.Horde.c351INjs2V92XxSa5SRqiFZ@tonydrews.com>

Hard to tell those enclosed trailers apart...

Tony

Quoting Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:

> Just passed in traffic by Tony Drew's outside of Barstow.? Looks like he
> is heading to BBQ.? He did not see me.? Ken
>
> Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
> On May 1, 2019 10:01 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Will be there shortly.?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 1, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Jerry Barker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry
>>> Barker?
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android[1]
>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot
>>>> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello All;
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>
>>>> I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.? I am staying
>>>> part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing
>>>> from Canada.
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>
>>>> The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help
>>>> VARA get things set up.? We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if
>>>> you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in
>>>> together.? There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for
>>>> Peter Brock and his rig.? So safe travels to everyone and see at the
>>>> track.
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers, Ken
>>>>
>>>>  ?
>>>>
>>>> PS;? The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be
>>>> warm to hot.
>>>>
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Wed May  1 18:31:41 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 17:31:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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From billdentin at aol.com  Wed May  1 18:58:14 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 00:58:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
References: <1133862279.20154.1556758694610.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1133862279.20154.1556758694610@mail.yahoo.com>

Ken...
That probably impressed you because you're still traumatized by the big 2019 BLIZZARD here in Las Vegas, when we actually had sticking?snow cover?on our palm trees. ?But Canucks, like Barry are tough. ?
Not o worry!
Bill Dentinger
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Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com
 On?Wednesday, May 1, 2019,?Ken Knight via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Barry Munson and his TR 3 just arrived at RV park where I am spending night in Tehachpi.? He has driven for 3 days through a winter storm to get to the race!? Ken

Sent?from?my?Verizon?SmartphoneOn May 1, 2019 2:42 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Just passed in traffic by Tony Drew's outside of Barstow.? Looks like he is heading to BBQ.? He did not see me.? Ken

Sent?from?my?Verizon?SmartphoneOn May 1, 2019 10:01 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:



Will be there shortly.?

Sent from my iPhone
On May 1, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Jerry Barker via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Stop by for dinner, barbecue, and drinks.Eating around 4:00. Jerry Barker?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot<fot at autox.team.net> wrote:   
Hello All;

 ?

I am headed out from Las Vegas today for Buttonwillow.? I am staying part way tonight and hoping to meet up with Barry Munson who is towing from Canada.

 ?

The track opens for us on Thursday and I will be there early to help VARA get things set up.? We have a parking area for the K Cup cars, if you don?t have an RV spot, and we will try and get all parties in together.? There will be spaces saved for the TR-250K team and for Peter Brock and his rig.? So safe travels to everyone and see at the track.

 ?

Cheers, Ken

 ?

PS;? The weather looks great at the track this weekend but it will be warm to hot.
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Wed May  1 19:28:58 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Wed, 01 May 2019 18:28:58 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:52:03 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:52:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Address is 11277? Hawthorne Avenue Hesperia CA 92345, phone 310 210 8649 Jerry?

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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:52:03 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:52:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Address is 11277? Hawthorne Avenue Hesperia CA 92345, phone 310 210 8649 Jerry?

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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Wed May  1 09:52:03 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 15:52:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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Address is 11277? Hawthorne Avenue Hesperia CA 92345, phone 310 210 8649 Jerry?

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From richard.mied at nrl.navy.mil  Wed May  1 15:42:01 2019
From: richard.mied at nrl.navy.mil (Richard Mied)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 17:42:01 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire race car for sale
Message-ID: <BFF51B04-66E2-4B11-AA92-0CEC7DD930CD@nrl.navy.mil>

1962 G/P Triumph Spitfire for Sale

 



This car was never titled for the street, and has always been a racecar. It was originally raced in SCCA, where it was the Southeast regional champion for two years. It has been raced in vintage since then. Email to  <mailto:mied at nrl.navy.mil>mied at nrl.navy <mailto:mied at nrl.navy>.mil

Engine
1147 cc built by Rick Cline
High-Compression forged pistons
Forged crankshaft
Carillo rods
Cline custom grind camshaft
Mallory Luminition distributor
Roller rockers
NAS fasteners throughout

Transmission/clutch/drivetrain
Quarter Master flywheel and pressure plate
Tilton clutch
GT6 transmission
Aluminum bell housing
Summers Brothers axles
Quaiffe 4:11 differential
AMB Transponder

Body
Stock?no flares
Complete roll cage with side impact protection
Custom Cockpit cover?covers roll cage and windscreens
Panasport wheels
Fire system onboard
ATL 8 gal. Fuel cell

Instrumentation
Auto Meter 0-10,000 RPM telltale tach
Auto Meter Oil pressure, water temperature, fuel pressure
Exhaust temperature gages

Race Track Times
Mid-Ohio?1:54.3
VIR--2:34.4
Watkins Glen?2:37.0
NJ?Thunderbolt?1:44.5

Spares
Block
2 Heads
Crankshaft
Starter motor
Alternator
GT6 transmission
Driveshaft
Aluminum bell housing
Throttle cables
Welded 4:11 large-case differential
Trunk lid
2 GT6 from wheel hubs + bearings
6 Panasport wheels
2 Stub axles
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From richard.mied at nrl.navy.mil  Wed May  1 15:28:10 2019
From: richard.mied at nrl.navy.mil (Richard Mied)
Date: Wed, 1 May 2019 17:28:10 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire race car for sale
Message-ID: <082371A2-6562-4315-A9F4-DF85DF26C013@nrl.navy.mil>

1962 G/P Triumph Spitfire

 


This car was never titled for the street, and has always been a racecar. It was originally raced in SCCA, where it was the Southeast regional champion for two years. It has been raced in vintage since then. Email to mied at nrl.navy.mil <mailto:mied at nrl.navy.mil>mied at nrl.navy <mailto:mied at nrl.navy>.mil

Engine
1147 cc built by Rick Cline
High-Compression forged pistons
Forged crankshaft
Carillo rods
Cline custom grind camshaft
Mallory Luminition distributor
Roller rockers
NAS fasteners throughout

Transmission/clutch/drivetrain
Quarter Master flywheel and pressure plate
Tilton clutch
GT6 transmission
Aluminum bell housing
Summers Brothers axles
Quaiffe 4:11 differential
AMB Transponder

Body
Stock?no flares
Complete roll cage with side impact protection
Custom Cockpit cover?covers roll cage and windscreens
Panasport wheels
Fire system onboard
ATL 8 gal. Fuel cell

Instrumentation
Auto Meter 0-10,000 RPM telltale tach
Auto Meter Oil pressure, water temperature, fuel pressure
Exhaust temperature gages

Race Track Times
Mid-Ohio?1:54.3
VIR--2:34.4
Watkins Glen?2:37.0
NJ?Thunderbolt?1:44.5

Spares
Block
2 Heads
Crankshaft
Starter motor
Alternator
GT6 transmission
Driveshaft
Aluminum bell housing
Throttle cables
Welded 4:11 large-case differential
Trunk lid
2 GT6 from wheel hubs + bearings
6 Panasporrt wheels
2 Stub axles
Other miscellaneous parts

 
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From waldoracer at yahoo.com  Thu May  2 14:29:50 2019
From: waldoracer at yahoo.com (Ralf Schreyer)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:29:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] rebirth 2
References: <974436064.514237.1556828990989.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <974436064.514237.1556828990989@mail.yahoo.com>

Hello all, the car has stock gearbox with tailshaft stiffened on both sides and a ballistic blanket, 3.89 welded upgraded stub axles and bearings rear axles are custom? Dart axles?machined to fit spit carriers with larger bearings, frt suspension?and brakes are GT6, spares included 1 GT6 close ratio trans, 3 diffs 1 add stock 3.89, a large 4.11, 4.88, an extra Stanford cam as installed in engine, 2 bare blocks, 2 cranks, 3 cylinder heads 1 complete, 4 steel 6 x 13 wheels with junk rains, new left rocker and door to repair damage, a complete straight hood assembly, 4 new Fiberglass fender flares and wrap around front spoiler, and single axle trailer. SCCA and MCSCC log books i am pretty sure i would like to return to stock body, anybody have good set of rear Quarters reasonably close to Iowa let me know thanks to all Ralf

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From bownes at seiri.com  Thu May  2 15:15:28 2019
From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 17:15:28 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>

Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role
this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be
there!

Bob
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Thu May  2 20:41:36 2019
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:41:36 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Second that!
Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
> 
> Bob
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Thu May  2 21:47:58 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (tony at tonydrews.com)
Date: Thu, 02 May 2019 23:47:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>

It?s good to see old friends again!

Tony

Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:

> Second that!
> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> TR4 #314
> Albuquerque NM
>
>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot  
>> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in  
>> whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or  
>> marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May  2 21:48:45 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:48:45 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
 <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <1F7CBC5A-E4FA-4FD6-94F4-622737853408@gmail.com>

?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> It?s good to see old friends again!
> 
> Tony
> 
> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
> 
>> Second that!
>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>> TR4 #314
>> Albuquerque NM
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>> 
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Thu May  2 21:57:32 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 20:57:32 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <1F7CBC5A-E4FA-4FD6-94F4-622737853408@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
 <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>
 <1F7CBC5A-E4FA-4FD6-94F4-622737853408@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <28AED7AE-D282-40FA-8578-23A9CF7D86CA@gmail.com>

????????

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It?s good to see old friends again!
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
>> 
>>> Second that!
>>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>>> TR4 #314
>>> Albuquerque NM
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>>> 
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>>> 
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From afterapex at gmail.com  Thu May  2 22:07:00 2019
From: afterapex at gmail.com (greg powell)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 21:07:00 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <28AED7AE-D282-40FA-8578-23A9CF7D86CA@gmail.com>
References: <CAJ1+nOSS5u4XDmXOP9xN3E4+gC6bpo3vwdmTfb3iEeyF_wGwRQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <2F862869-D862-4889-964D-8B95594EBD77@yahoo.com>
 <20190502234758.Horde.L08NheAo7nd_J1J0gYsQD6A@tonydrews.com>
 <1F7CBC5A-E4FA-4FD6-94F4-622737853408@gmail.com>
 <28AED7AE-D282-40FA-8578-23A9CF7D86CA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6B2E2DE-BF1D-4128-B9C7-8E87BFC38CB4@gmail.com>

It?s going to be a great weekend!
I look forward to meeting lots of Triumph, and Triumph-powered owners!!
Greg Powell
1958 Morgan +4

Sent from my iPhone

On May 2, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

????????

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It?s good to see old friends again!
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
>> 
>>> Second that!
>>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>>> TR4 #314
>>> Albuquerque NM
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>> 
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From kknight at klaenv.com  Fri May  3 07:08:41 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Fri, 03 May 2019 06:08:41 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
Message-ID: <mailman.573.1638252670.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

It?is?a?gathering?of?the?Clan?Triumph!??Ken

Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
On May 2, 2019 8:57 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ????????
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > 
> > ?
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >> It?s good to see old friends again!
> >> 
> >> Tony
> >> 
> >> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
> >> 
> >>> Second that!
> >>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
> >>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> >>> TR4 #314
> >>> Albuquerque NM
> >>> 
> >>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
> >>>> 
> >>>> Bob
> >>>> 
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> fot at autox.team.net
> >>>> 
> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
> >>>> 
> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> >>>> 
> >>> 
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> >>> 
> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com
> >>> 
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Fri May  3 11:45:47 2019
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 12:45:47 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <20190503132137.358F6A1AEE@autox.team.net>
References: <20190503132137.358F6A1AEE@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <8E604073-8325-4D46-A412-6F002BAD6783@icloud.com>

Wish I was with you guys at the Cup. I couldn?t swing it this year. Next best thing for me, we brought the only Triumph to CVAR?s MSR Houston race this weekend. 

Y?all have fun. 

Greg

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Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> It?is?a?gathering?of?the?Clan?Triumph! ?Ken
> 
> Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
>> On May 2, 2019 8:57 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ????????
>> 
>> Brad Eells
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It?s good to see old friends again!
>>>> 
>>>> Tony
>>>> 
>>>> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Second that!
>>>>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>>>>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>>>>> TR4 #314
>>>>> Albuquerque NM
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Fri May  3 12:40:04 2019
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 13:40:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Best of luck!
In-Reply-To: <8E604073-8325-4D46-A412-6F002BAD6783@icloud.com>
References: <20190503132137.358F6A1AEE@autox.team.net>
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It?s rained hard a few times in the Austin area today and I suspect it?s coming your way in Angleton (as I type this it?s over Eagle Lake and Sugarland).  A tornado passed through Fayette county this morning and wiped out a bunch of buildings including a church ? no injuries thankfully.

I wish I could have made it but the replacement pistons for the NSU still haven?t arrived.

Duncan

> On May 3, 2019, at 12:45 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Wish I was with you guys at the Cup. I couldn?t swing it this year. Next best thing for me, we brought the only Triumph to CVAR?s MSR Houston race this weekend. 
> 
> Y?all have fun. 
> 
> Greg
> 
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It?is?a?gathering?of?the?Clan?Triumph! ?Ken
>> 
>> Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
>>> On May 2, 2019 8:57 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ????????
>>> 
>>> Brad Eells
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 8:47 PM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It?s good to see old friends again!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tony
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quoting Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Second that!
>>>>>> Be safe, have fun and GO FAST!!!!
>>>>>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>>>>>> TR4 #314
>>>>>> Albuquerque NM
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 2, 2019, at 3:15 PM, robert bownes via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best of luck to all those participating in the Kastner Cup in whatever role this weekend, be it crew, pilot, observer, or marshal. Wish I could be there!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>> 
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri May  3 13:50:24 2019
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 19:50:24 +0000
Subject: [Fot] K Cup
Message-ID: <98FC75AB-96A4-4279-8510-021D5AA3A559@mhc-law.com>

The event isn?t on race monitor anyone know why????

Sent from my iPhone

From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Sat May  4 05:49:08 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 07:49:08 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR4 race car
Message-ID: <008d01d5026f$62672550$27356ff0$@rogers.com>

 
<https://www.facebook.com/groups/ObscureCarsOC/permalink/2340998305962727/?s
ale_post_id=2340998305962727>
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From my71spit13 at yahoo.com  Sat May  4 15:06:18 2019
From: my71spit13 at yahoo.com (Shawn Frank)
Date: Sat, 4 May 2019 21:06:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner cup coverage
References: <2104740933.1389254.1557003978363.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I have live video on www.facebook.com/NorthAmTriumphs?
Fyi. We will also do a live video of the Cup race and the awards...

Shawn Frank
The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor
North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner
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Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver
515-339-4228


'71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude"
'72 Triumph GT6 MK3
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sun May  5 10:34:21 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 12:34:21 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner cup - who won?
Message-ID: <B500B683-E87F-4D2B-8B8E-F14CA55AC54E@me.com>

Who were the top 5?

Sent from my iPhone


From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Sun May  5 19:26:07 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 21:26:07 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR2 Macau
Message-ID: <001e01d503aa$ae845750$0b8d05f0$@rogers.com>

 
<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIUMPH-TR2-MACAU/303144628132?hash=item4694d3ef
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIUMPH-TR2-MACAU/303144628132?hash=item4694d3efa
4%3Ag%3ApLoAAOSw0w1czuW6&frcectupt=true&fbclid=IwAR2sHczjtAhGbjejTOPFxYancLJ
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sun May  5 19:41:23 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 18:41:23 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sun May  5 21:00:13 2019
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 21:00:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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Race results but no K Cup results?
My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> <IMG_6476.jpg>
> 
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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From billdentin at aol.com  Sun May  5 21:04:58 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 03:04:58 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
References: <41527139.1779795.1557111898165.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <41527139.1779795.1557111898165@mail.yahoo.com>

Tony done GOOD, finishing 5th.
Bill Dentinger

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com
 On?Sunday, May 5, 2019,?Greg Hilyer via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Race results but no K Cup results?
My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> <IMG_6476.jpg>
> 
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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From emanteno at gmail.com  Sun May  5 21:13:15 2019
From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 20:13:15 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
In-Reply-To: <A6D377AC-5D42-4798-BB31-940EB8233BB1@yahoo.com>
References: <D90B8B90-FA40-4F8D-9331-8319658DE9A7@gmail.com>
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Brian Howlett won The Cup.

On Sun, May 5, 2019, 8:00 PM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Race results but no K Cup results?
> My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> TR4 #314
> Albuquerque NM
>
> > On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > <IMG_6476.jpg>
> >
> >
> > Brad Eells
> > Sent from my iPhone
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From lunkercars at yahoo.com  Sun May  5 21:32:26 2019
From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 21:32:26 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
In-Reply-To: <41527139.1779795.1557111898165@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <41527139.1779795.1557111898165@mail.yahoo.com>
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Looks like a 3rd in class to me!
Yay Tony!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 5, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Tony done GOOD, finishing 5th.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
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> On Sunday, May 5, 2019, Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Race results but no K Cup results?
> My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
> TR4 #314
> Albuquerque NM
> 
> > On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > <IMG_6476.jpg>
> > 
> > 
> > Brad Eells
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun May  5 21:36:46 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 20:36:46 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
In-Reply-To: <2A4286DB-91B6-469B-937C-77456C54B71E@yahoo.com>
References: <41527139.1779795.1557111898165.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Rock Solid and Flawless. Hard to beat that California Air. 

Mid-Ohio may be different. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Looks like a 3rd in class to me!
> Yay Tony!
> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
> TR4 #314
> Albuquerque NM
> 
>> On May 5, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Tony done GOOD, finishing 5th.
>> 
>> Bill Dentinger
>> 
>> 
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>> On Sunday, May 5, 2019, Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Race results but no K Cup results?
>> My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
>> TR4 #314
>> Albuquerque NM
>> 
>> > On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > <IMG_6476.jpg>
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Brad Eells
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sun May  5 21:46:15 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sun, 5 May 2019 20:46:15 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
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[image: BCE_0002 (Large) (2).JPG]
*Brad Eells*
*Chino CA*
*#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3*
*#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4*
*1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!*




On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:13 PM Irv Korey <emanteno at gmail.com> wrote:

> Brian Howlett won The Cup.
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2019, 8:00 PM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Race results but no K Cup results?
>> My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
>> Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer
>> TR4 #314
>> Albuquerque NM
>>
>> > On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> wrote:
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From trhouse at columbus.rr.com  Sun May  5 23:06:05 2019
From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (Tom Householder)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 01:06:05 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR2 build dates
Message-ID: <0F192220-C6F2-46E4-A76B-621438FA02D8@columbus.rr.com>

TS 5433 O, TR2 ENGINE TS 5723E

Looking for a build date of a TR2 with an Engine Number around TS 5999 E

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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon May  6 00:42:11 2019
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 08:42:11 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
In-Reply-To: <CACZdCPV5U4JbHrUXAmChzpgntyFqchM8bzT3CMZyM3v3jCiVCg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D90B8B90-FA40-4F8D-9331-8319658DE9A7@gmail.com>
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Yep, that 595 car looks very fast laptime wise.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Von: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von Brad Eells via Fot
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Mai 2019 05:46
An: Irv Korey <emanteno at gmail.com>
Cc: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results

 



Brad Eells

Chino CA

#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3

#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4

1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!



 

 

 

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 8:13 PM Irv Korey <emanteno at gmail.com <mailto:emanteno at gmail.com> > wrote:

Brian Howlett won The Cup. 

 

On Sun, May 5, 2019, 8:00 PM Greg Hilyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Race results but no K Cup results?
My Money is on Tony! Yeah Tony!
Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer 
TR4 #314
Albuquerque NM

> On May 5, 2019, at 7:41 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> > wrote:
> 
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Mon May  6 03:05:17 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 05:05:17 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results
In-Reply-To: <D90B8B90-FA40-4F8D-9331-8319658DE9A7@gmail.com>
References: <D90B8B90-FA40-4F8D-9331-8319658DE9A7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <009001d503ea$d3bf5520$7b3dff60$@rogers.com>

Although I understand that John Mueller was driving the TR8 instead of Joe
Huffaker. A last minute switch of driver was reported. A great finish in
honor of his father's racing successes.

Also a great finish for Wedges!

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Eells via
Fot
Sent: May 5, 2019 9:41 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Results






From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Mon May  6 06:49:53 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 12:49:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR2 build dates
In-Reply-To: <0F192220-C6F2-46E4-A76B-621438FA02D8@columbus.rr.com>
References: <0F192220-C6F2-46E4-A76B-621438FA02D8@columbus.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1281783160.747310.1557146993539@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hi Tom.? My TR-2 is TS 7158 L and was built on July 7, 1955.
Jack

    On Monday, May 6, 2019, 1:06:29 AM EDT, Tom Householder via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 TS 5433 O, TR2 ENGINE TS 5723E
Looking for a build date of a TR2 with an Engine Number around TS 5999 E
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Mon May  6 11:11:08 2019
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 10:11:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] KCup thanks and congratulations
Message-ID: <1705684210.193648.1557162669274@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello Friends,

Thanks to everyone who helped put together a great weekend of racing.  It was a very healthy turnout of Triumphs.

What a great group!  Ken did an excellent job of taking good care of us in a well organized fashion.  Joe Siam Too.

Buttonwillow is a very fun track.  I was a little slow at getting up to speed, but I improved my lap times by over 9 seconds from my last practice session on Friday to the all British race on Sunday.  If only the KCup was run on Sunday.  I ran 2:22s during the Kastner Cup race and 2:17s during the British race on Sunday, finishing 9th of 27.  

I had a little problem with my TR3 for the first time in it's 17 events.  It would not rev over 5,500 rpm beginning on Friday, although once I figured out a good flow of the track, I was really having a blast.  

On Friday, I had my first spin and thanks to Walt Hollowell's efforts, I was lucky not to collect anyone or hit the only wall at Buttonwillow.  Walt was a couple feet from hitting me in the driver door and I floored the throttle to keep the car rotating out of his way.  The 360 spin ended a couple feet from a tire barrier still on pavement.  

Congratulations to Brian Howlett.  His Kastner Cup win was well deserved.  He was really flying in his TR4.  Unfortunately, he didn't fair as well in his Morgan during the Sunday British race.  A lap after he passed me, his car broke an axle right in front of me in the esses.  A wild series of spins followed.  

Stay tuned for videos.

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From john at linneyweb.com  Mon May  6 13:31:48 2019
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 12:31:48 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Racers
Message-ID: <FFB2F261-4EFC-4AA2-BAE4-2217335BC48C@linneyweb.com>

Thanks to all the racers that gave me SD Cards after the race on Saturday. The footage is awesome and will really help tell the story.

To those who ran GoPros and were unaware that I am putting together a video telling the story of the race ? It?s not too late to have your footage included. Just respond to this email and I?ll send you a link where you can upload the video - or an address to mail your SD card (I will pay postage both ways!) If you have video from trackside I would love that too. 

This is very much a passion project, and all those who provide footage will get a special mention in the credits. I had such a great time watching history being made and would like to especially thank Joe Alexander for giving me the opportunity to meet and work with such a great group of people. Also a shout-out to Cregg Cowan who did such a professional job with the other camera. 

I?m just starting to wade through hundreds of Gigabytes of footage and will let this group know as soon as something is ready to release.

Many thanks ? john

Email or 408 887 8105 if you have questions.





From kknight at klaenv.com  Mon May  6 15:08:24 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Ken Knight)
Date: Mon, 06 May 2019 14:08:24 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Racers
Message-ID: <mailman.574.1638252671.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

John, I just got home and unloaded.? I have not had time to check my GoPro, but I will tomorrow.? I may have some good footage of first few laps until my car broke.? Ken

Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
On May 6, 2019 12:31 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks to all the racers that gave me SD Cards after the race on Saturday. The footage is awesome and will really help tell the story.
>
> To those who ran GoPros and were unaware that I am putting together a video telling the story of the race ? It?s not too late to have your footage included. Just respond to this email and I?ll send you a link where you can upload the video - or an address to mail your SD card (I will pay postage both ways!) If you have video from trackside I would love that too.
>
> This is very much a passion project, and all those who provide footage will get a special mention in the credits. I had such a great time watching history being made and would like to especially thank Joe Alexander for giving me the opportunity to meet and work with such a great group of people. Also a shout-out to Cregg Cowan who did such a professional job with the other camera.
>
> I?m just starting to wade through hundreds of Gigabytes of footage and will let this group know as soon as something is ready to release.
>
> Many thanks ? john
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon May  6 15:46:13 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 14:46:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Performance Awards
Message-ID: <0F26B0D5-75D2-480F-A7D0-F0E78C0965E3@gmail.com>


Kas and all,

I have 3 of Peggy?s Performance Awards. I need the names to send them

Thank you. 

Joe Alexander

Sent from my iPhone

From john at linneyweb.com  Mon May  6 17:19:01 2019
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 16:19:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Racers
In-Reply-To: <20190506212159.647D3A15C4@autox.team.net>
References: <20190506212159.647D3A15C4@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <7A529256-19EC-4B11-A237-434702246D37@linneyweb.com>

Thanks Ken - That would be great. I really appreciate it! -john

> On May 6, 2019, at 2:08 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> John, I just got home and unloaded.  I have not had time to check my GoPro, but I will tomorrow.  I may have some good footage of first few laps until my car broke.  Ken
> 
> Sent?from?my?Verizon?Smartphone
> On May 6, 2019 12:31 PM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks to all the racers that gave me SD Cards after the race on Saturday. The footage is awesome and will really help tell the story.
>> 
>> To those who ran GoPros and were unaware that I am putting together a video telling the story of the race ? It?s not too late to have your footage included. Just respond to this email and I?ll send you a link where you can upload the video - or an address to mail your SD card (I will pay postage both ways!) If you have video from trackside I would love that too.
>> 
>> This is very much a passion project, and all those who provide footage will get a special mention in the credits. I had such a great time watching history being made and would like to especially thank Joe Alexander for giving me the opportunity to meet and work with such a great group of people. Also a shout-out to Cregg Cowan who did such a professional job with the other camera.
>> 
>> I?m just starting to wade through hundreds of Gigabytes of footage and will let this group know as soon as something is ready to release.
>> 
>> Many thanks ? john
>> 
>> Email or 408 887 8105 if you have questions.
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From mark at bradakis.com  Mon May  6 22:16:45 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 22:16:45 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Home again
Message-ID: <f718f490-33f5-71d8-16ba-fa5c42f5a456@bradakis.com>

2,014 miles. 5 days, 8 hours.

That's an average of 15.7 mph for my vacation.? I'm tired, but glad to 
be home.



More after a beer and a shot, perhaps a nap.



mjb.





From koblinger at verizon.net  Mon May  6 23:31:50 2019
From: koblinger at verizon.net (Kurt Oblinger)
Date: Mon, 6 May 2019 22:31:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Photos
Message-ID: <b6eca514-2709-1316-db1a-b16abaf8bb50@verizon.net>

Amici,

First off, a round of thanks to all those involved in making the Kastner 
Cup a great event. This was the first time I was able to attend and it 
was better than I hoped. Great cars, drivers and racing.

Racing photography has been my thing for 40 or so years now, so here is 
my contribution to the effort. The link below should take you to a 
Google Album of photos. I tried to get at least one shot of each triumph 
on track, although I expect I managed to miss a couple. If the link is 
not clickable, try cutting and pasting into your browser.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/PZKNjUjSNbLbE3216

Cheers,

Kurt Oblinger



From mark at bradakis.com  Tue May  7 21:57:42 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 21:57:42 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2019
Message-ID: <740968b6-56f5-5ae1-40fa-9de82fa7cdf3@bradakis.com>

Fun weekend.? I did a lot of driving, got to see Death Valley for the 
first time, I drove through some pretty desolate country during the 
course of the trip.? Enterprise gave me a nice discount since they 
messed up on the Sirius XM radio request.

I was bummed I forgot the chairs I meant to bring, with my hip the way 
it is I can't stand or walk too long, need to rest often. Also bummed I 
didn't tape up that poster I brought.? It was from the 2002 Mid Ohio 
Triumph event, a reminder of the location of next year's Cup event.? I 
set it on a table when I got there, got sidetracked and it disappeared.? 
Oh well, hope whoever took it left behind a donation to the cause.

Got to see some great people, some great cars.? Kind of surprised how 
few pictures there are on my phone of the event.? DId get a short video 
of the beginning of the first lap of the race, with John Mueller in the 
TR8 leading the way.? Brian Howlett's 4A is way faster than a 4 banger 
should be, like Barker's Herald.

The weekend got me inspired, I HAVE to get a running Triumph in my life 
this summer.? A bigger goal. of course, would be getting the Killer Spit 
back on track and entered in an upcoming Kastner Cup event.

We shall see.

mjb.




From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed May  8 07:59:22 2019
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 06:59:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] [TR] TR2 build dates
In-Reply-To: <CANzE1bGT-wSi28j5hkLw62g1d9U_+eHXrQFsxY5w-U5LOPPiVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0F192220-C6F2-46E4-A76B-621438FA02D8@columbus.rr.com>
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Message-ID: <372771265.972.1557323963165@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello All,

I saw these build date inquiries and thought I'd chime in.

I have a longdoor TR2 built in June 14 of '54.  TS2172LO, engine TS2313E.  

Dave H.

> On May 6, 2019 at 10:26 AM Geo Hahn <ahwahneetr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 10:06 PM Tom Householder < trhouse at columbus.rr.com mailto:trhouse at columbus.rr.com > wrote:
> 
>         > >         TS 5433 O, TR2 ENGINE TS 5723E
> > 
> >     > 
>     Is this the 'Harrahs' TR2?
> 
>     Geo 
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Wed May  8 13:58:59 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (PAUL MACDONALD)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 19:58:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Herald
References: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>

Someone was looking for a Herald
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/1432680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true


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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Wed May  8 14:10:06 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 13:10:06 -0700
Subject: [Fot] A Great FOT Weekend
Message-ID: <CACZdCPWAHceghr5DxtOToSnbGjGpEVhRY-KYd68jOGojcRAqZw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Amici,

I just wanted to express what a great time we had with all of you at
Kastner Cup. While my racing weekend was cut short by a number of self
inflicted ills, the company and surrounding events were fantastic starting
at Jerry and Jan Barker's home on Wednesday.

Mordy Dunst is an amazing chef and host among all of his other skills. He
managed to win the Union Jack Challenge race on Sunday going away as well.

Many have supported my quest to get the former Doug Brown Spitfire back on
the track after it's 43 year nap. I thank all of you for that.

Kas among all his other duties and commitments took the time to teach me
spark plugs, carb float levels and mixture settings. I saw my first fouled
plug on Friday!

We learned lots and will learn more as we now have a bit of breathing space
to the next event.

Thanks again Amici! What a great event...Mid Ohio 2020 anyone??

Cheers,


*Brad Eells*
*Chino CA*
*#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3*
*#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4*
*1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!*
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From rick.parent at att.net  Wed May  8 14:51:17 2019
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 20:51:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Herald
In-Reply-To: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Yeah, that would be me and I would take in a second except it's a little to far away, 2590 miles to be exact, thanks for thinking of me.
    On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 3:59:07 PM EDT, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Someone was looking for a Herald
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/1432680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true


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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May  8 15:15:15 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 15:15:15 -0600
Subject: [Fot] A Great FOT Weekend
In-Reply-To: <CACZdCPWAHceghr5DxtOToSnbGjGpEVhRY-KYd68jOGojcRAqZw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACZdCPWAHceghr5DxtOToSnbGjGpEVhRY-KYd68jOGojcRAqZw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <077a6a38-04e4-a8da-7453-f931b516e92f@bradakis.com>

On 5/8/19 2:10 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote:
> Hello Amici,
>
> I just wanted to express what a great time we had with all of you at 
> Kastner Cup. While my racing weekend was cut short by a number of self 
> inflicted ills, the company and surrounding events were fantastic 
> starting at Jerry and Jan Barker's home on Wednesday.
>
> Mordy Dunst is an amazing chef and host among all of his other skills. 
> He managed to win the Union Jack Challenge race on Sunday going away 
> as well.
>
> Many have supported my quest to get the former Doug Brown Spitfire 
> back on the track after it's 43 year nap. I thank all of you for that.
>
> Kas among all his other duties and commitments took the time to teach 
> me spark plugs, carb float levels and mixture settings. I saw my first 
> fouled plug on Friday!
>
> We learned lots and will learn more as we now have a bit of breathing 
> space to the next event.
>
> Thanks again Amici! What a great event...Mid Ohio 2020 anyone??


Yes, a great weekend, wish I had remembered the BBQ was Wednesday, not 
Thursday.? I am planning on Mid Ohio next year. May fly into 
Indianapolis to visit an old friend, drive to the track from there.? 
Think it will be the first time I make 2 in a row, if it happens.

On a side note, one comment I got several times during the weekend was 
how much people appreciated the new and much improved response time for 
list emails.? You can actually carry on a conversation now, without 
waiting hours for a response.

mjb.




From charly at mitchelplumbing.com  Wed May  8 15:17:16 2019
From: charly at mitchelplumbing.com (Charly Mitchel)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 14:17:16 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Herald
References: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>
 <475376075.1773311.1557348677301@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C5FE6AD59211433C9146D7A74500C37D@Charly>

Only a couple of hundred miles away for me if you want me to pick it up for you.  I could store it until you get it figured out.

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rick Parent via Fot 
  To: FOT Triumph ; PAUL MACDONALD 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 1:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald


  Yeah, that would be me and I would take in a second except it's a little to far away, 2590 miles to be exact, thanks for thinking of me.


  On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 3:59:07 PM EDT, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 




  Someone was looking for a Herald


  https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/1432680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true





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From billsohl at optonline.net  Wed May  8 18:46:52 2019
From: billsohl at optonline.net (Sohl)
Date: Wed, 8 May 2019 20:46:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Herald
In-Reply-To: <C5FE6AD59211433C9146D7A74500C37D@Charly>
References: <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1508160436.1745286.1557345539136@mail.yahoo.com>
 <475376075.1773311.1557348677301@mail.yahoo.com>
 <C5FE6AD59211433C9146D7A74500C37D@Charly>
Message-ID: <953998902.404949.1557362812882@mymail.optimum.net>

Charly,

I have a 1961 Herald, minimum rust, convertible, dry stored for last 20 years. Car is located in Northwest, NJ. I am listing it at $2000 or best offer. Up for sale is also a 1981 TR-8 Convertible, bordeaux red/tan top. If anyone is interested please email me. Cheers, Bill
?

> On May 8, 2019 at 5:17 PM Charly Mitchel via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>     Only a couple of hundred miles away for me if you want me to pick it up for you.  I could store it until you get it figured out.
>      
>     Charly Mitchel
>     TR6 #44
>     ----- Original Message -----
> 
>         > >         From: Rick Parent via Fot mailto:fot at autox.team.net
> >         To: FOT Triumph mailto:fot at autox.team.net ; PAUL MACDONALD mailto:macdonaldp at rogers.com
> >         Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2019 1:51 PM
> >         Subject: Re: [Fot] Herald
> > 
> >         Yeah, that would be me and I would take in a second except it's a little to far away, 2590 miles to be exact, thanks for thinking of me.
> > 
> >         On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 3:59:07 PM EDT, PAUL MACDONALD via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >         Someone was looking for a Herald
> > 
> >         https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/1432680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
> > 
> > 
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From rodkent at cox.net  Wed May  8 22:06:24 2019
From: rodkent at cox.net (CHARLES KENT)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 00:06:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
Message-ID: <1345463444.16754.1557374784537@myemail.cox.net>

Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Thu May  9 04:40:20 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 06:40:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Herald
Message-ID: <000001d50653$9a40ae00$cec20a00$@rogers.com>

Someone was looking for a Herald.

 

 
<https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/vernon/1967-triumph-herald-enderby/143
2680370?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true>
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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Thu May  9 16:26:50 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2019 18:26:50 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling
Message-ID: <CAMJWJcHaAZTrfDcvyPLWgo4vt9Pf=8afzf9X=RE5Qo37v8zWfw@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone have any experience with installation of an electric water pump on
the TR wet sleeve engine??    Having trouble with temperature control on
the Davies Craig 115 pump and controller kit I installed on my TR3.  Flow
rate is advertised at 115 liters/minute.     Thanks
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From billdentin at aol.com  Fri May 10 10:47:04 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 16:47:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
References: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404@mail.yahoo.com>

Rod & Dale...
Good for you.? With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.? Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.? Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.? Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows. ?
Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.? Start making plans.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

 Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of? true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.? I want to say in closing? we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.? Rod and Dale Kent _______________________________________________
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri May 10 11:56:01 2019
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 17:56:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1374457227.458269.1557506824404@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <272324085.2620635.1557510961109@mail.yahoo.com>

 Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
Regards,Bob LangTR6's

    On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Rod & Dale...
Good for you.? With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.? Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.? Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.? Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows. ?
Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.? Start making plans.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

 Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of? true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.? I want to say in closing? we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.? Rod and Dale Kent _______________________________________________
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Fri May 10 12:41:51 2019
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 18:41:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling
References: <278446680.485957.1557513711211.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <278446680.485957.1557513711211@mail.yahoo.com>

Might be too much flow? ?

MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2
 On?Thursday, May 9, 2019,?John Styduhar via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Anyone have any experience with installation of an electric water pump on the TR wet sleeve engine??? ? Having trouble with temperature control on the Davies Craig 115 pump and controller kit I installed on my TR3.? Flow rate is advertised at 115 liters/minute.? ? ?Thanks_______________________________________________
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Fri May 10 16:27:01 2019
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 22:27:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
In-Reply-To: <33FFBFA2-598C-4156-B7A1-EB545C176C71@icloud.com>
References: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1374457227.458269.1557506824404@mail.yahoo.com>
 <272324085.2620635.1557510961109@mail.yahoo.com>
 <33FFBFA2-598C-4156-B7A1-EB545C176C71@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <340024053.2729039.1557527221340@mail.yahoo.com>

 The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.
We'd love to see you there!
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:  
 
 All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


 Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
Regards,Bob LangTR6's

    On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Rod & Dale...
Good for you.? With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.? Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.? Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.? Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows. ?
Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.? Start making plans.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

 Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of? true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.? I want to say in closing? we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.? Rod and Dale Kent _______________________________________________
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 10 16:43:05 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 17:43:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup. Mid-Ohio 2020
In-Reply-To: <340024053.2729039.1557527221340@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1374457227.458269.1557506824404.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <272324085.2620635.1557510961109@mail.yahoo.com>
 <33FFBFA2-598C-4156-B7A1-EB545C176C71@icloud.com>
 <340024053.2729039.1557527221340@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9F95B48B-ACA0-436F-AEB7-04B1A380ACC0@gmail.com>

Just rolled in from Buttonwillow.

We will make a more formal announcement in a few days.

I am taking a nap right now. 

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.
> 
> We'd love to see you there!
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> 
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
>> 
>> FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bob Lang
>> TR6's
>> 
>> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Rod & Dale...
>> 
>> Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
>> 
>> Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
>> 
>> When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.  
>> 
>> Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.
>> 
>> Bill Dentinger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
>> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
>> 
>> Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri May 10 16:47:43 2019
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 22:47:43 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup. Mid-Ohio 2020
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It?s June 20-23 this year, SVRA event

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Just rolled in from Buttonwillow.

We will make a more formal announcement in a few days.

I am taking a nap right now.

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On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.

We'd love to see you there!

Regards,
Bob Lang

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com<mailto:gblake58tr3 at icloud.com>> wrote:


All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.

FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.

Regards,
Bob Lang
TR6's

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Rod & Dale...

Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).

Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.

When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.

Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.

Bill Dentinger



-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From dbm.spitfire at gmail.com  Fri May 10 17:47:56 2019
From: dbm.spitfire at gmail.com (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 19:47:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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For reference, the 2019 date is 21-23 June.

On Fri, May 10, 2019, 6:27 PM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each
> year.
>
> We'd love to see you there!
>
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <
> gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:
>
>
> All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at
> least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond)
> and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
>
> FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking
> forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July
> with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> TR6's
>
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Rod & Dale...
>
> Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect
> for our cars).
>
> Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I
> had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that
> one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen
> hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked
> it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
>
> When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.
> Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.
>
> Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.
>
> Bill Dentinger
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
>
> Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are
> charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we
> would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast
> race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now
> and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so
> many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember
> my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our
> 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly
> copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it
> put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in
> early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting
> John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and
> lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where
> he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also
> high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a
> nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced
> with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate
> racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great
> time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward
> to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Fri May 10 18:52:29 2019
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 19:52:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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It?s only 18hrs 53minutes from Austin. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang <robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.
> 
> We'd love to see you there!
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> 
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
>> 
>> FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bob Lang
>> TR6's
>> 
>> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Rod & Dale...
>> 
>> Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
>> 
>> Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
>> 
>> When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.  
>> 
>> Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.
>> 
>> Bill Dentinger
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
>> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
>> 
>> Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From jhasty at mhc-law.com  Fri May 10 20:08:02 2019
From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 02:08:02 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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6 hrs 30 min from Charlotte

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

It?s only 18hrs 53minutes from Austin.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang <robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com<mailto:robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com>> wrote:

The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.

We'd love to see you there!

Regards,
Bob Lang

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com<mailto:gblake58tr3 at icloud.com>> wrote:


All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?

Sent from my iPhone

On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.

FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.

Regards,
Bob Lang
TR6's

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


Rod & Dale...

Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).

Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.

When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.

Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.

Bill Dentinger



-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Sat May 11 04:58:40 2019
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 10:58:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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 google maps says 10 hours for me, but I usually make stops at Hoosier Tire East to talk about tire compounds and pick up a few and then also seem to get distracted by the Summit Racing facility near Akron where I walk around the showroom dazed for an hour or so before picking up some doo-dads and racing stuff... I think the shortest time for me from Massachusetts to MidOhio has been like 14 hours. But it is so worth it.
l8r.Bob Lang

    On Friday, May 10, 2019, 10:08:06 PM EDT, John H. Hasty <jhasty at mhc-law.com> wrote:  
 
 6 hrs 30 min from Charlotte

Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2019, at 8:53 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


It?s only 18hrs 53minutes from Austin.?

Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Robert Lang <robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com> wrote:


The Mid-Ohio event is usually around Father's Day in mid to late June each year.
We'd love to see you there!
Regards,Bob Lang

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 3:58:27 PM EDT, Greg Blake <gblake58tr3 at icloud.com> wrote:

All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?
Sent from my iPhone
On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
Regards,Bob LangTR6's

On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Rod & Dale...
Good for you.? With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.? Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.? Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.? Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows. ?
Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.? Start making plans.
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup

Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of? true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.? I want to say in closing? we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.? Rod and Dale Kent_______________________________________________
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sat May 11 07:21:48 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 08:21:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] The Kastner Cup. A Ken Knight Production
Message-ID: <7209FA77-6B64-4EFE-B1E8-238DFFE0AB13@gmail.com>

FOT

Many thanks to Ken Knight to taking this event on as Chair.

It is always a much bigger job than anyone imagines.

It was a huge success and the success will be felt for months and years to come.

Thank you Ken & Terri Knight.

Now onto to Mid-Ohio.

Joe Alexander
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From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com  Fri May 10 13:58:21 2019
From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake)
Date: Fri, 10 May 2019 14:58:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
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All this talk if Mid-Ohio has me thinking...What?s the date?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 10, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi - I think Rod knows Mid-Ohio pretty well, he ran at the Runoffs at least once. I know because I was crewing for another EP Triumph (Chip Bond) and Rod was paddocked right across from us.
> 
> FWIW, I plan to be there in 2020 with my TR6. Bill D. - I'm also looking forward to the Glen in SEP this year. I'm also going to go there in July with SCCA and the Historic Racing Group. I am totally looking forward to it.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
> TR6's
> 
> On Friday, May 10, 2019, 12:47:11 PM EDT, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Rod & Dale...
> 
> Good for you.  With out question, MID-OHIO is worth the long tow (perfect for our cars).
> 
> Early on in Beady Eye Vintage Triumph racing, Don Brick, Bob Wismer, and I had a list of tracks that we wanted to race just to say we've done that one.  Early on Watkins Glen was a biggie on that list, but it was a sixteen hour tow from our location in the Midwest.  Well, we did it, and we liked it so much that we did it sixteen years in a row.
> 
> When we could, we'd tow in tandem, and maintain contact with CB radios.  Listening to audio books was always my crutch for long tows.  
> 
> Absolutely put MID-OHIO on your list.  Start making plans.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CHARLES KENT via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 9:22 pm
> Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup
> 
> Hi, I just wanted to express our gratitude to the FOT people who are charged with making the location choices for the cup. I don't know if we would have ventured back east for our initial kc event, so the west coast race made it easy for us being from phoenix. I am afraid we are hooked now and will indeed make some long tows. It was an absolute pleasure meeting so many tr racers, and how great it was to talk with Mr. Kastner to remember my first dealings with him and Carl Swanson when I first started racing our 6. I was especially relieved that he didn't chastise me for so blatantly copying his paint scheme. Hopefully he knows its because of the spell it put on me when I first saw Carl driving it at Phoenix international in early 70's! It was also great to see all the Mueller pictures and meeting John and his mom. Lee was also a big influence in my early SCCA days and lent a hand several times at Riverside, Holtville and anywhere else where he saw we could use some friendly advice. He was a true racer's racer. Also high on the list of  true racers there was Joe Huffaker. If there is a nicer guy on the planet, I don't know who he could possibly be. I raced with him for years in SCCA, and he has always been not only the consummate racer, but all round good guy.  I want to say in closing  we had a great time and just want to thank everyone who made it possible. We look forward to making it to more events.  Rod and Dale Kent
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun May 12 06:43:21 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 07:43:21 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FOT Logo Decals
Message-ID: <BE0AD75A-5426-4FD2-8749-EC7BC097D8BC@gmail.com>

FOT:

Folks were asking.

We ran off 100 decals. They are about 3 x 5 as before.

Four for $10.00 minimum order.
$2.50 each for additional.

PayPal or Check.

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Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
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The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sun May 12 08:48:10 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 07:48:10 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FOT Logo Decals
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These are very nice stickers. The die cut has much less white border than the previous version...

Thanks for making them Joe!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> FOT:
> 
> Folks were asking.
> 
> We ran off 100 decals. They are about 3 x 5 as before.
> 
> Four for $10.00 minimum order.
> $2.50 each for additional.
> 
> PayPal or Check.
> 
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
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> 
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun May 12 09:07:32 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 10:07:32 -0500
Subject: [Fot] FOT Logo Decals
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Thank you Brad.

Orders are coming in.

We can do larger sized decals to special order. (After I catch up from the Kastner Cup).

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 12, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Brad Eells <tr4abrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> These are very nice stickers. The die cut has much less white border than the previous version...
> 
> Thanks for making them Joe!
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> FOT:
>> 
>> Folks were asking.
>> 
>> We ran off 100 decals. They are about 3 x 5 as before.
>> 
>> Four for $10.00 minimum order.
>> $2.50 each for additional.
>> 
>> PayPal or Check.
>> 
>> <image1.jpeg>
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>> 
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>> 
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Sun May 12 09:29:41 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 10:29:41 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Performance Awards.  Need Addresses
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FOT:

We have Three Performance Awards.....they are beautiful and a tribute to Peggy.

DALE WALLACE.   TR6.  #66

RANDY RYDEN.   GT6?   #66

???????



I need addresses to send these.

I need the third name. Perhaps it is on video record. Please help. I fell down on the job. I could be fired for this.

Thanks,

Joe Alexander

> 
> the TR-6 guy number 66 is one, that is Dale wallace, Randy Ryden  the GT-6 #66, i do not know who the third might have been. 
> Never be beaten by equipment.
> 
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From jhassall at gmail.com  Sun May 12 09:55:59 2019
From: jhassall at gmail.com (J.C. Hassall)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 11:55:59 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Performance Awards. Need Addresses
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Wow, that award is awesome.  Peggy would be proud.

jim

On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 11:30 AM Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> FOT:
>
> We have Three Performance Awards.....they are beautiful and a tribute to
> Peggy.
>
> DALE WALLACE.   TR6.  #66
>
> RANDY RYDEN.   GT6?   #66
>
> ???????
>
> [image: image1.jpeg]
>
> I need addresses to send these.
>
> I need the third name. Perhaps it is on video record. Please help. I fell
> down on the job. I could be fired for this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Joe Alexander
>
>
> the TR-6 guy number 66 is one, that is Dale wallace, Randy Ryden  the GT-6
> #66, i do not know who the third might have been.
>
> *Never be beaten by equipment.*
>
>
>
>
>>
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From pvucinic at netspace.net.au  Sun May 12 19:15:48 2019
From: pvucinic at netspace.net.au (Peter Vucinic)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 11:15:48 +1000
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling
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Hi John,

Went through that many years ago. Could never get it to function properly on my TR4. Gave up in the end is it was all way too hard and complicated. Engine always ran hot no matter what I did. I had an electronic controller which gave variable speed to the pump unit. But that didn?t make any difference in my case.

 

 

Cheers

 

 

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Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR4 - TR7 V8 - Spitfire MkII

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Styduhar via Fot
Sent: Friday, 10 May 2019 8:27 AM
To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling

 

Anyone have any experience with installation of an electric water pump on the TR wet sleeve engine??    Having trouble with temperature control on the Davies Craig 115 pump and controller kit I installed on my TR3.  Flow rate is advertised at 115 liters/minute.     Thanks

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From mdporter at dfn.com  Sun May 12 21:13:13 2019
From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2019 21:13:13 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TR2/3/4 engine cooling
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On 5/12/2019 7:15 PM, Peter Vucinic via Fot wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Went through that many years ago. Could never get it to function 
> properly on my TR4. Gave up in the end is it was all way too hard and 
> complicated. Engine always ran hot no matter what I did. I had an 
> electronic controller which gave variable speed to the pump unit. But 
> that didn?t make any difference in my case.
>

Unfortunately, pumps are almost always rated by their flow rate through 
an open orifice, and one has to figure in the pumping losses through the 
engine.? So, if an engine produces x amount of heat per minute, then the 
actual flow rate, given the specific heat of water, has to be able to 
remove x amount of heat per minute.? A cast-iron engine with lots of 
rusty-crusties in the passages is certainly going to have a flow rate a 
fair amount lower than an open orifice (not that those rusty-crusties 
aren't important--heat transfer off of rusty cast iron is higher than 
with any other metal because of the surface area).

The other big problem with pumps is that one needs to know their flow at 
specific head pressures, because without the pump being able to build 
pressure and still move fluid, hot-running engines will inevitably 
succumb to nucleate boiling and overheat.

In theory, one could have an electric pump that's more efficient than a 
mechanical one, in the same way that electric fans, with the maximum 
efficiency blade pitch matched to the motor rpm, are more efficient than 
engine-driven fans.? However, I suspect that the makers of the kits out 
there are assembling them from the parts available, not engineering them 
to requirements.


Cheers.

-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


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From fmccjr at aol.com  Mon May 13 05:17:13 2019
From: fmccjr at aol.com (Rick McCurdy)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 07:17:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
References: <D48C54F7-30AA-41D7-B397-9B96A9438EEE.ref@aol.com>
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Some of you may have heard about a New Yorkers? attempt to get to the 
K Cup last weekend, but here?s the skinny:

After long weeks of long days, I finished repairing bodywork from when I smacked the wall backwards at the Canadian Vintage Gran Prix at Mosport last June, and the car reassembled (just) in time to depart New York?s Hudson Valley on Sunday morning,  April 28. Of course, the one thing I didn?t have time to do before loading was to get the car running. Since I was planning on passing through Dayton, I called a long time Sunbeam club friend and asked for help. (How tough is it to get a tractor engine to run?!) Doug Jennings, who owned Tiger Auto in Dayton for decades before retiring a few years ago was the perfect choice.

I arrived at Doug?s around 8:30, had a quick bite of his wife?s (wonderful!) Lasagna, and winched the car into his garage to get the tr3 started. 3 hours later, nothing. Bupkis. Nada. We could not get the car to even cough using starting fluid! New plugs the next morning didn?t matter. The car would. not. start. 

I left Dayton for home sometime after noon the next day, an unhappy camper. Disappointing as it was, there still is no sense in dragging a dead race car to California and back. So, I went home. 

There is spark, fuel and (barely)compression. When I got home I took it to another Brit car friend who owns a shop and offered to give it a look. We measured an average 105 lbs for comp (it should have done SOMETHING!) and timing was judged to be correct. What we did not do was a leak down test. I don?t know why we didn?t think of that before removing the head... Where the heck is mine when I need it?!

Head removal revealed some scoring of the walls, ugly corrosion in the chambers, but nothing blatant. When I crashed last year, apparently the top rad hose popped off the spout and water was introduced into the intake. Who knew!? I hit the wall backwards after rounding turn 10, and the little birdies were flying around the little stars before I shut down the motor and gingerly extricated myself from the car. I didn?t know for 6 more weeks that I had a handful of broken vertebrae (thank you, HANS device..!), now fully repaired with the neurosurgeons approval to race, by the way. I discovered the water evidence when I had to remove the manifolds to weld up the ripped exhaust collector. Inside the ports were rust remains that definitely should not have been there- and the starter didn?t spin the motor until I pulled plugs, squirted WD-40 into the cyls and bumped the started button until it loosened up and spun freely. 
Next season, when the water is drained for winter, it will get the cylinders lubricated! That is, when I finally get the darn thing to run...

My big adventure was a bust. Bummed I missed it (a good one, from all the great comments!), bummed I didn?t get to see west coast friends, but still determined to be at Mid-Ohio next year!

Since I?ve had the head and manifolds off a number of times, it?s time for a new gaskets (both head and manifold). The solid copper gasket worked great, but took me at least three tries to get it to seal after the prev head gasket failed at the ?17 Lime Rock Historics. I ended up using silicone ll. It worked, but it?s messy and unorthodox.

So, does anyone have a suggestion for replacement gaskets? I?m not trying to be a frontrunner, I just crave reliability at this point- a weekend where I can drive off the trailer, race, and drive back on the trailer with nothing broken or suspect. Just once!

Down, but not out. Yours truly,

Rick McCurdy
Newburgh, NY

I know... I know, I waited a long time to work on the car, but I was working on restoring a friends big Healey, and that had priority. It?s beautiful, but took much longer than anticipated. Just call me ?Mr. Vertical Learning Curve?!
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Mon May 13 07:19:38 2019
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 08:19:38 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Mid-Ohio Kastner Cup 2020
Message-ID: <86F0132F-E61A-4683-ADF7-409D251A4263@cs.com>

FOT:

We started going to M-O in 1992. The SVRA event in June has ALWAYS been the week after Father?s Day Weekend. I don?t expect that to change.

An additional feature of this schedule is that the Black Hawk Classic is ALWAYS on Father?s Day Weekend. It is possible to run back to back weekends. (Uncle Jack and I did, once.)

I hope to meet with SVRA next weekend, but that has not been set. Casual planning has been ongoing for a year, now we will step up the activity.

More later,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon May 13 07:38:29 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 08:38:29 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Regalia Type Stuff
Message-ID: <1DAC0890-0406-4348-AD62-E348DDF00B7B@gmail.com>

Just a reminder:

Kas? Hard Copy Books. We have three out of the four books. ?MYTHS? is gone forever, except on digital on Kas? Website.

The Three Pack of Books is $80 including shipping....while they last.  PayPal or Check.  N197tr4 at cs.com

People are ordering the 3 x 5 FOT Decal. I had 100 made. Down to about 50.  Four for $10 including postage. $2.50 each beyond that.  PayPay or Check.   N197tr4 at cs.com

The award winning Steve Belfer Kastner Cup Posters are essentially all gone. If there were enough interest, I could do a short run of the limited edition 17 x 11 heavy bond paper. Maybe 25? Kind of a pain, but I don?t mind. These posters are very collectible. And Hobby Lobby has a great glass frame for under $10.00. Let me know.

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
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The-vintage-racer.com
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From billdentin at aol.com  Mon May 13 08:58:47 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 14:58:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
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Good for you, Rick. ?
Just another one of us unstoppable...tenacious Triumph merry masochists...down, but not out!
I am proud of you. ?
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick McCurdy via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, May 13, 2019 4:17 am
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.

Some of you may have heard about a New Yorkers? attempt to get to the?K Cup last weekend, but here?s the skinny:
After long weeks of long days, I finished repairing bodywork from when I smacked the wall backwards at the Canadian Vintage Gran Prix at Mosport last June, and the car reassembled (just) in time to depart New York?s Hudson Valley on Sunday morning, ?April 28. Of course, the one thing I didn?t have?time to do before loading was to get the car running. Since I was planning on passing through Dayton, I called a long time Sunbeam club friend and asked for help. (How tough is it to get a tractor engine to run?!) Doug Jennings, who owned Tiger Auto in Dayton for decades before retiring a few years ago was the perfect choice.

I arrived at Doug?s around 8:30, had a quick bite of his wife?s (wonderful!) Lasagna, and winched the car into his garage to get the tr3 started. 3 hours later, nothing. Bupkis. Nada. We could not get the car to even cough using starting fluid! New plugs the next morning didn?t matter. The car would. not. start.?

I left Dayton for home sometime after noon the next day, an unhappy camper. Disappointing as it was, there still is no sense in dragging a dead race car to California and back. So, I went home.?

There is spark, fuel and (barely)compression. When I got home I took it to another Brit car friend who owns a shop and offered to give it a look. We measured an average 105 lbs for comp (it should have done SOMETHING!) and timing was judged to be correct. What we did not do was a leak down test. I don?t know why we didn?t think of that before removing the head... Where the heck is mine when I need it?!

Head removal revealed some scoring of the walls, ugly corrosion in the chambers, but nothing blatant. When I crashed last year, apparently the top rad hose popped off the spout and water was introduced into the intake. Who knew!? I hit the wall backwards after rounding turn 10, and the little birdies were flying around the little stars before I shut down the motor and gingerly extricated myself from the car. I didn?t know for 6 more weeks that I had a handful of broken vertebrae (thank you, HANS device..!), now fully repaired with the neurosurgeons approval to race, by the way. I discovered the water evidence when I had to remove the manifolds to weld up the ripped exhaust collector. Inside the ports were rust remains that definitely should not have been there- and the starter didn?t spin the motor until I pulled plugs, squirted WD-40 into the cyls and bumped the started button until it loosened up and spun freely.?Next season, when the water is drained for winter, it will get the cylinders lubricated! That is, when I finally get the darn thing to run...

My big adventure was a bust. Bummed I missed it (a good one, from all the great comments!), bummed I didn?t get to see west coast friends, but still determined to be at Mid-Ohio next year!
Since I?ve had the head and manifolds off a number of times, it?s time for a new gaskets (both head and manifold). The solid copper gasket worked great, but took me at least three tries to get it to seal after the prev head gasket failed at the ?17 Lime Rock Historics. I ended up using silicone ll. It worked, but it?s messy and unorthodox.
So, does anyone have a suggestion for replacement gaskets? I?m not trying to be a frontrunner, I just crave reliability at this point- a weekend where I can drive off the trailer, race, and drive back on the trailer with nothing broken or suspect. Just once!
Down, but not out. Yours truly,
Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY
I know... I know, I waited a long time to work on the car, but I was working on restoring a friends big Healey, and that had priority. It?s beautiful, but took much longer than anticipated. Just call me ?Mr. Vertical Learning Curve?!_______________________________________________
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Mon May 13 11:15:36 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (tony at tonydrews.com)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 13:15:36 -0400
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
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I use Cometic head gasket.  Fire ring is round, so you may need to go  
larger than cylinder diameter to minimize protrusion in the eyebrow of  
the intake pocket in the head.  The have up to 91 mm diameter if you  
call them (website just shows 88 mm).  Two thicknesses are available  
too.  I run the 91 mm diameter one.

For intake gasket, Remflex is the way to go if you have sealing  
issues.  They have a pre cut option, or you can buy partial sheets and  
make your own.  I make my own because the intake port holes are too  
large and my intake manifold has narrow sealing surfaces.

Tony Drews

Quoting Rick McCurdy via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>:

> Some of you may have heard about a New Yorkers? attempt to get to the
> K Cup last weekend, but here?s the skinny:
>
> After long weeks of long days, I finished repairing bodywork from  
> when I smacked the wall backwards at the Canadian Vintage Gran Prix  
> at Mosport last June, and the car reassembled (just) in time to  
> depart New York?s Hudson Valley on Sunday morning,  April 28. Of  
> course, the one thing I didn?t have time to do before loading was to  
> get the car running. Since I was planning on passing through Dayton,  
> I called a long time Sunbeam club friend and asked for help. (How  
> tough is it to get a tractor engine to run?!) Doug Jennings, who  
> owned Tiger Auto in Dayton for decades before retiring a few years  
> ago was the perfect choice.
>
> I arrived at Doug?s around 8:30, had a quick bite of his wife?s  
> (wonderful!) Lasagna, and winched the car into his garage to get the  
> tr3 started. 3 hours later, nothing. Bupkis. Nada. We could not get  
> the car to even cough using starting fluid! New plugs the next  
> morning didn?t matter. The car would. not. start.
>
> I left Dayton for home sometime after noon the next day, an unhappy  
> camper. Disappointing as it was, there still is no sense in dragging  
> a dead race car to California and back. So, I went home.
>
> There is spark, fuel and (barely)compression. When I got home I took  
> it to another Brit car friend who owns a shop and offered to give it  
> a look. We measured an average 105 lbs for comp (it should have done  
> SOMETHING!) and timing was judged to be correct. What we did not do  
> was a leak down test. I don?t know why we didn?t think of that  
> before removing the head... Where the heck is mine when I need it?!
>
> Head removal revealed some scoring of the walls, ugly corrosion in  
> the chambers, but nothing blatant. When I crashed last year,  
> apparently the top rad hose popped off the spout and water was  
> introduced into the intake. Who knew!? I hit the wall backwards  
> after rounding turn 10, and the little birdies were flying around  
> the little stars before I shut down the motor and gingerly  
> extricated myself from the car. I didn?t know for 6 more weeks that  
> I had a handful of broken vertebrae (thank you, HANS device..!), now  
> fully repaired with the neurosurgeons approval to race, by the way.  
> I discovered the water evidence when I had to remove the manifolds  
> to weld up the ripped exhaust collector. Inside the ports were rust  
> remains that definitely should not have been there- and the starter  
> didn?t spin the motor until I pulled plugs, squirted WD-40 into the  
> cyls and bumped the started button until it loosened up and spun  
> freely.
> Next season, when the water is drained for winter, it will get the  
> cylinders lubricated! That is, when I finally get the darn thing to  
> run...
>
> My big adventure was a bust. Bummed I missed it (a good one, from  
> all the great comments!), bummed I didn?t get to see west coast  
> friends, but still determined to be at Mid-Ohio next year!
>
> Since I?ve had the head and manifolds off a number of times, it?s  
> time for a new gaskets (both head and manifold). The solid copper  
> gasket worked great, but took me at least three tries to get it to  
> seal after the prev head gasket failed at the ?17 Lime Rock  
> Historics. I ended up using silicone ll. It worked, but it?s messy  
> and unorthodox.
>
> So, does anyone have a suggestion for replacement gaskets? I?m not  
> trying to be a frontrunner, I just crave reliability at this point-  
> a weekend where I can drive off the trailer, race, and drive back on  
> the trailer with nothing broken or suspect. Just once!
>
> Down, but not out. Yours truly,
>
> Rick McCurdy
> Newburgh, NY
>
> I know... I know, I waited a long time to work on the car, but I was  
> working on restoring a friends big Healey, and that had priority.  
> It?s beautiful, but took much longer than anticipated. Just call me  
> ?Mr. Vertical Learning Curve?!





From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Mon May 13 12:49:00 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 13:49:00 -0500
Subject: [Fot] The Kastner Cup. A Ken Knight Production
References: <003001d50997$e3441820$a9cc4860$@klaenv.com>
Message-ID: <8F553DCD-CEE4-4C34-94BA-8D12FF9521B4@gmail.com>

This comes from Ken Knight. A thank you to all.


> 
> Joe;
> 
> There are lots of people that deserve to be mentioned for help with this
> event.
> 
> First, as always, is Kas.  He was in on all the planning and kept us on
> point.  
> 
> Joe, you are the "Keeper of the Flame" for all of these events.  Jeanette at
> VARA worked very hard to give us everything we asked for and more (as did
> the club).  Steve Belfer did his magic with all the posters.  Moss Motors
> stepped up (Thanks to Robert Goldman) to get Peter Brock to the event.
> Peter, his awesome trailer and his personal Cobra Daytona were a big hit.
> Bill Hart made the TR-250K available and is trusting enough to let  Tony
> drive the beast!  Mordy Dunst provided the much needed garage space for our
> clan to gather, a big thanks there.  Rod Sussman gave us a short Drivers
> Meeting and behind the scenes VARA guys John Wilkens and Val Ascensio
> helped with the race action.  Alan Berry provided stickers.  John Linney and
> Shawn Frank made the trek out west to cover the event and put together a
> video.  Finally, there are all the racers who busted butt to get cars ready
> and to drive from Canada, the Midwest, the Pacific Northwest, New Mexico and
> Texas to run the race.  If I have forgotten anyone my apologies!

Pivotal to the weekend is Videographer, John Linney. Editing is in progress and the preliminary results are extraordinary. You will see yourself in action. A lot of it.
> 
> No event is done by one person, it was a team effort.  So my thanks to all
> that helped!
> 
> Cheers, Ken
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via
> Fot
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 6:22 AM
> To: fot at autox.team.net
> Cc: Jeanette.Bourke at vararacing.com
> Subject: [Fot] The Kastner Cup. A Ken Knight Production
> 
> FOT
> 
> Many thanks to Ken Knight to taking this event on as Chair.
> 
> It is always a much bigger job than anyone imagines.
> 
> It was a huge success and the success will be felt for months and years to
> come.
> 
> Thank you Ken & Terri Knight.
> 
> Now onto to Mid-Ohio.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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> 
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> 


From ac at camoletti.ch  Tue May 14 07:55:45 2019
From: ac at camoletti.ch (Alexandre Camoletti)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:55:45 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
Message-ID: <00e601d50a5c$ba79a160$2f6ce420$@camoletti.ch>

Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion last year, two questions:

 

1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?

 

2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?

 

Thanks for your suggestions here!

Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)

Alex Camoletti

 

De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
Envoy? : vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
? : Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet : Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source

 

I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.  Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay of game.

https://www.calicocoatings.com/

Tony Drews

 

On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:

anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out? 

 

Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?

 

thanks,

Scott






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From rick.parent at att.net  Tue May 14 08:05:27 2019
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:05:27 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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 Install as is, enjoy!
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 9:56:04 AM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
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Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion last year, two questions:

 ?

1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?

 ?

2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?

 ?

Thanks for your suggestions here!

Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)

Alex Camoletti

 ?

De?: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
Envoy??: vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
??: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet?: Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source

 ?

I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.? Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.? Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.? That was a delay of game.

https://www.calicocoatings.com/

Tony Drews

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On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:


anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out? 

 ?

Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?

 ?

thanks,

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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Tue May 14 08:13:51 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 10:13:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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If I asked my engine builder, he would snicker and ask me to leave.

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:05 AM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Install as is, enjoy!
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 9:56:04 AM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion
> last year, two questions:
>
>
>
> 1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10
> microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?
>
>
>
> 2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will
> tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded
> to remove the coating and restore the original ID?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestions here!
>
> Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)
>
> Alex Camoletti
>
>
>
> *De :* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] *De la part de* Tony Drews
> via Fot
> *Envoy? :* vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
> *? :* Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> *Objet :* Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source
>
>
>
> I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to
> Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're looking for, but
> Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.
> Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to
> Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay of game.
>
> https://www.calicocoatings.com/
>
> Tony Drews
>
>
>
> On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
>
> anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for
> the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to
> subsequently send them out?
>
>
>
> Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Tue May 14 08:19:45 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:19:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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#1- I've had all of my bearings treated (Polymer Dynamics Houston Tx) for decades. 
They call out thickness @ .0002-.0004, I usually find about 2/10s (per shell), so it sure does affect clearance.#2- I wouldn't touch the parting faces, unless there were obviously heavy deposits on the ends; it directly affects the crush or grip of the bearings, not so much the housing bore of the bearings dimensionally.

Glen

 
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From: Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, May 14, 2019 9:56 am
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings

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Envoy??: vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
??: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet?: Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source ?I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.? Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.? Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.? That was a delay of game.https://www.calicocoatings.com/Tony Drews ?On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out?  ?Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same? ?thanks,Scott


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From rick.parent at att.net  Tue May 14 08:46:14 2019
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 14:46:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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 Haha, that's funny, I also use that same coating for my oil pumps, it makes quite the difference in pressure and longevity. There is some break in procedure before it can be installed though.
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 10:14:04 AM EDT, John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 If I asked my engine builder, he would snicker and ask me to leave.
On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:05 AM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

 Install as is, enjoy!
    On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 9:56:04 AM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion last year, two questions:

 ?

1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?

 ?

2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?

 ?

Thanks for your suggestions here!

Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)

Alex Camoletti

 ?

De?: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
Envoy??: vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
??: Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet?: Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source

 ?

I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.? Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.? Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.? That was a delay of game.

https://www.calicocoatings.com/

Tony Drews

 ?

On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:


anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out? 

 ?

Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?

 ?

thanks,

Scott





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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Tue May 14 09:34:33 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 08:34:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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Which coating are we talking about for bearings...their site has about 50 different types...

Brad Eells
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> On May 14, 2019, at 7:46 AM, Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Haha, that's funny, I also use that same coating for my oil pumps, it makes quite the difference in pressure and longevity. There is some break in procedure before it can be installed though.
> 
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 10:14:04 AM EDT, John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> If I asked my engine builder, he would snicker and ask me to leave.
> 
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 10:05 AM Rick Parent via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> Install as is, enjoy!
> 
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 9:56:04 AM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion last year, two questions:
> 
>  
> 
> 1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?
> 
>  
> 
> 2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for your suggestions here!
> 
> Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)
> 
> Alex Camoletti
> 
>  
> 
> De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
> Envoy? : vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
> ? : Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> Objet : Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source
> 
>  
> 
> I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.  Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay of game.
> 
> https://www.calicocoatings.com/
> 
> Tony Drews
> 
>  
> 
> On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
> 
> anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to subsequently send them out?
> 
>  
> 
> Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?
> 
>  
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Tue May 14 09:59:59 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 08:59:59 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
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Looks like the right stuff. The company is based in the heart of NASCAR
country. They would likely be the authority on any need for crank
modifications based on film thickness.

https://www.calicocoatings.com/coating-data-sheets/ct-1-dry-film-lubricant/


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On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 6:55 AM Alexandre Camoletti via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings) discussion
> last year, two questions:
>
>
>
> 1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx. 5-10
> microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the clearance?
>
>
>
> 2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this will
> tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the edges be sanded
> to remove the coating and restore the original ID?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestions here!
>
> Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)
>
> Alex Camoletti
>
>
>
> *De :* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] *De la part de* Tony Drews
> via Fot
> *Envoy? :* vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
> *? :* Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> *Objet :* Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source
>
>
>
> I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send them to
> Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're looking for, but
> Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years and am very happy with.
> Just be sure to mail them them Denver North Carolina - I once sent to
> Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay of game.
>
> https://www.calicocoatings.com/
>
> Tony Drews
>
>
>
> On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
>
> anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings for
> the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to
> subsequently send them out?
>
>
>
> Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue May 14 10:46:55 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (tony at tonydrews.com)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 12:46:55 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Calico Coatings
In-Reply-To: <00e601d50a5c$ba79a160$2f6ce420$@camoletti.ch>
Message-ID: <20190514124655.Horde.1dlYK4fuWMwXEAqBWQMUjZs@tonydrews.com>

I concur with the ?install as is?.  I just make sure they are nice and clean.

Wouldn?t hurt to check the clearance, but it?s never been an issue for me.

Regards, Tony Drews

Quoting Alexandre Camoletti <ac at camoletti.ch>:

> Listers, following the Calico Coatings (main bearings coatings)  
> discussion last year, two questions:
>
>
>
> 1.The coating adds some thickness (variable on demand but approx.  
> 5-10 microns), does that need to be taken into consideration in the  
> clearance?
>
>
>
> 2.The coating adds also thickness on the edges of the bearings, this  
> will tend to increase the ID of the fitted bearings. Should the  
> edges be sanded to remove the coating and restore the original ID?
>
>
>
> Thanks for your suggestions here!
>
> Kind regards from Europe (Geneva, Switzerland)
>
> Alex Camoletti
>
>
>
> De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] De la part de Tony Drews via Fot
> Envoy? : vendredi 19 janvier 2018 04:03
> ? : Scott Janzen; 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> Objet : Re: [Fot] Coated Bearing source
>
>
>
> I buy my TR-4 tri-metal bearings from BP Northwest and then send  
> them to Calico Coatings for that part.  Not exactly what you're  
> looking for, but Calico Coatings is who I've used for over 10 years  
> and am very happy with.  Just be sure to mail them them Denver North  
> Carolina - I once sent to Denver Colorado instead.  That was a delay  
> of game.
>
> https://www.calicocoatings.com/
>
> Tony Drews
>
>
>
> On 1/18/2018 10:47 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote:
>
> anyone aware of a source for high quality tri-metal engine bearings  
> for the GT6/TR6, preferably already coated, so that I don?t need to  
> subsequently send them out?
>
>
>
> Also, recommendations on coatings/vendors who do same?
>
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
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From john at linneyweb.com  Tue May 14 12:17:44 2019
From: john at linneyweb.com (John Linney)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 11:17:44 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
Message-ID: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>

I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI

I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 

If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 

If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.

On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.

I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.

I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.

-john

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
408 887 8105

https://classicmotorfilms.com



From bownes at web9.com  Tue May 14 13:11:27 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:11:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
References: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOSB9_8b7Ain6+xoUd2UvFZKxWZgyGfpk-4GOj4n5RXvwA@mail.gmail.com>

Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a
triumph based race car....


On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 2:17 PM John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019
> Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel.
> https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>
> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event.
> As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided
> by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all
> synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very
> exciting racing.
>
> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube
> channel and sharing it with your friends.
>
> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at
> https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future
> projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not
> too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.
>
> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also
> enjoy and share.
>
> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and
> overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the
> week-end.
>
> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony
> Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously
> provided footage.
>
> -john
>
> John Linney
> Classic Motor Films
> 408 887 8105
>
> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Tue May 14 16:28:32 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 15:28:32 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
References: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
Message-ID: <BDEEF16F-0019-4965-959A-743440357F63@gmail.com>

That?s a mighty effort John...Bravo, well done!

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 14, 2019, at 11:17 AM, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
> 
> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 
> 
> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 
> 
> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.
> 
> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.
> 
> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.
> 
> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.
> 
> -john
> 
> John Linney
> Classic Motor Films
> 408 887 8105
> 
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From gasket.works at gte.net  Tue May 14 17:45:59 2019
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 23:45:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
References: <681527945.2317085.1557877559298.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <681527945.2317085.1557877559298@mail.yahoo.com>

Damnd good job !!!!?

MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2
 On?Tuesday, May 14, 2019,?John Linney via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI

I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 

If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 

If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.

On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.

I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.

I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.

-john

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
408 887 8105

https://classicmotorfilms.com

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From Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com  Tue May 14 19:18:57 2019
From: Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com (Gregmogdoc at surfnetusa.com)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 18:18:57 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
Message-ID: <dbda32a2815448b39702a3a3740b981d.Gregmogdoc@surfnetusa.com>

That is a great job putting together that video! 
Thanks to everyone who participated. 


Greg Solow
The Engine Room
Sports Car Specialists
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
831 429-1800



------- Original Message -------
>From    : John Linney via Fot[mailto:fot at autox.team.net]
Sent    : 5/14/2019 11:17:44 AM
To      : fot at autox.team.net
Cc      : 
Subject : RE: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video

 I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that
my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now
available to watch on my YouTube channel. 
https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI 

I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the
spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own
cameras, there are shots generously provided by
drivers. The race portion consists of nine different
camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give
a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 

If you enjoy it, please help me do more by
subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with
your friends. 

If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at
 https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/  to get
updates on future projects. I have plans for other
videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if
you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.

On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which
I hope you will also enjoy and share.

I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to
create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity
and support of everyone I met over the week-end.

I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg
Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as
well as all the racers who so generously provided
footage.

-john

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
408 887 8105

 https://classicmotorfilms.com 

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Tue May 14 19:38:02 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 20:38:02 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Decals and Kastner Cup Posters. Availability Status.
Message-ID: <4C7E14C5-D993-4EA4-905D-13352FE67A0F@gmail.com>

FOT:

I ran 100 decals, thinking that I would have them for a long time. Not so. I am now down to 25 3 x 5 decals.

$10 = 4 decals delivered. $2.50 each after the first four.


I ran 100 special edition 17 x 11 collectible posters with artwork by Steve Belfer. They are gone, but I am going to do a short run.

$15 protected in a new mailing tube and delivered. 

This Kastner Cup, produced  by Chair Ken Knight, was an exceptional event that will be remembered for a very long time. 

????????????????????-

In addition to the Kastner Cup Event, there was a historical reunion of Kas Kastner, Peter Brock, and the TR250K. Converging from Washington, Nevada, and California, this unlikely to happen again. A celebration of a great automotive legacy with two automotive icons.

The Kastner Cup and the FOT are on a roll. See you at Mid-Ohio in 2020. It?s where it all began.

Thanks,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711



From gasket.works at gte.net  Tue May 14 22:31:05 2019
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 04:31:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
References: <123310733.2412837.1557894665415.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <123310733.2412837.1557894665415@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi all: ?
Kas asked me?to make a quick comnent on the?race. ?

The ?Linney video?compilation is extraordinary. ??The race started cleanly enough. ?The three leaders mueller, garmey and knight were duking it ?out in front. I had a ring side view?watching them in?fourth?position. ??After about two laps Ken knight had a mechanical issue slowed and eventually pulled off course near the sweeper. ?? That left john?mueller and Tony Garmey in?front. After a couple of laps I was able to pass Tony on the inside of the sweeper?just before the Esses. ? Tony was to recapture that position on the next lap at riverside corner due to?traffic interference. He and Mueller were neck?and neck. ? I passed once again and was behind Mueller when at the Truck stop turn Mueller?got out of sorts and off track. ?Made lots of dust. ?I had to avoid collision?and ?got out if sorts too. ?Made two 360?s and ended up facing the correct way on track left. It was a dangerous spot. ?.?Took literally?two minutes of cranking motor until it cleared and fired up (just as safety truck arrived to assist). ? I took off but, a whole lap down. ?? I saw black flag at next station (acknowledged it - thinking? it was for?me) then recognized that every flag station had a?standing black flag. ?I wondered why that was needed. ?Yes, there were a few cars with mechanicals ?on course but, they were very safe and off line. ?
Mordy
?
MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2
 On?Tuesday, May 14, 2019,?John Linney via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI

I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 

If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 

If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.

On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.

I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.

I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.

-john

John Linney
Classic Motor Films
408 887 8105

https://classicmotorfilms.com

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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May 15 00:38:23 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 00:38:23 -0600
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1+nOSB9_8b7Ain6+xoUd2UvFZKxWZgyGfpk-4GOj4n5RXvwA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EF9B5FBE-3264-4432-AA39-1C4170C99D27@linneyweb.com>
 <CAJ1+nOSB9_8b7Ain6+xoUd2UvFZKxWZgyGfpk-4GOj4n5RXvwA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1a606d68-dec5-41e4-28a0-0e7c26d019c2@bradakis.com>

On 5/14/19 1:11 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
> Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a 
> triumph based race car....
>

A formula car with a TR8 motor ....

mjb.




From johnstydo at gmail.com  Wed May 15 06:21:33 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 08:21:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <123310733.2412837.1557894665415@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <123310733.2412837.1557894665415.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <123310733.2412837.1557894665415@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAMJWJcGrehn2z57kcuoGHBmYX8K_6YLDkNEjckGQo597q7kv6g@mail.gmail.com>

For the sake of trying to stay on the vintage event schedule, some clubs
will black flag a race instead of full course yellow or partial yellow to
provide time for vehicle recovery, track cleanup, or to punish the group
for not being polite to each other on the racetrack.


On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:31 AM Mordy Dunst via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> Kas asked me to make a quick comnent on the race.
>
>
> The  Linney video compilation is extraordinary.   The race started
> cleanly enough.  The three leaders mueller, garmey and knight were duking
> it  out in front. I had a ring side view watching them in fourth position.
>   After about two laps Ken knight had a mechanical issue slowed and
> eventually pulled off course near the sweeper.    That left john mueller
> and Tony Garmey in front. After a couple of laps I was able to pass Tony on
> the inside of the sweeper just before the Esses.   Tony was to recapture
> that position on the next lap at riverside corner due to traffic
> interference. He and Mueller were neck and neck.   I passed once again and
> was behind Mueller when at the Truck stop turn Mueller got out of sorts and
> off track.  Made lots of dust.  I had to avoid collision and  got out if
> sorts too.  Made two 360?s and ended up facing the correct way on track
> left. It was a dangerous spot.  . Took literally two minutes of cranking
> motor until it cleared and fired up (just as safety truck arrived to
> assist).   I took off but, a whole lap down.    I saw black flag at next
> station (acknowledged it - thinking  it was for me) then recognized that
> every flag station had a standing black flag.  I wondered why that was
> needed.  Yes, there were a few cars with mechanicals  on course but, they
> were very safe and off line.
>
> Mordy
>
>
>
> MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616
> Fax 626.628.3777
> Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471
> T FFL 6,7 SOT 2
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019
> Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel.
> https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>
> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event.
> As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided
> by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all
> synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very
> exciting racing.
>
> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube
> channel and sharing it with your friends.
>
> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/
> to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related
> to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it
> into this video.
>
> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also
> enjoy and share.
>
> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and
> overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the
> week-end.
>
> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony
> Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously
> provided footage.
>
> -john
>
> John Linney
> Classic Motor Films
> 408 887 8105
>
> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>
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> fot at autox.team.net
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Wed May 15 08:06:50 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 07:06:50 -0700
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
In-Reply-To: <CAMJWJcGrehn2z57kcuoGHBmYX8K_6YLDkNEjckGQo597q7kv6g@mail.gmail.com>
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In this case, it was the last race of the day, but there was a BBQ to get to...

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> For the sake of trying to stay on the vintage event schedule, some clubs will black flag a race instead of full course yellow or partial yellow to provide time for vehicle recovery, track cleanup, or to punish the group for not being polite to each other on the racetrack. 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:31 AM Mordy Dunst via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Hi all:  
>> 
>> Kas asked me to make a quick comnent on the race.  
>> 
>> 
>> The  Linney video compilation is extraordinary.   The race started cleanly enough.  The three leaders mueller, garmey and knight were duking it  out in front. I had a ring side view watching them in fourth position.   After about two laps Ken knight had a mechanical issue slowed and eventually pulled off course near the sweeper.    That left john mueller and Tony Garmey in front. After a couple of laps I was able to pass Tony on the inside of the sweeper just before the Esses.   Tony was to recapture that position on the next lap at riverside corner due to traffic interference. He and Mueller were neck and neck.   I passed once again and was behind Mueller when at the Truck stop turn Mueller got out of sorts and off track.  Made lots of dust.  I had to avoid collision and  got out if sorts too.  Made two 360?s and ended up facing the correct way on track left. It was a dangerous spot.  . Took literally two minutes of cranking motor until it cleared and fired up (just as safety truck arrived to assist).   I took off but, a whole lap down.    I saw black flag at next station (acknowledged it - thinking  it was for me) then recognized that every flag station had a standing black flag.  I wondered why that was needed.  Yes, there were a few cars with mechanicals  on course but, they were very safe and off line.  
>> 
>> Mordy
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616 
>> Fax 626.628.3777 
>> Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471 
>> T FFL 6,7 SOT 2
>> 
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019 Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel. https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>> 
>> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of some very exciting racing. 
>> 
>> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube channel and sharing it with your friends. 
>> 
>> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/ to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it into this video.
>> 
>> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also enjoy and share.
>> 
>> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the week-end.
>> 
>> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank, Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously provided footage.
>> 
>> -john
>> 
>> John Linney
>> Classic Motor Films
>> 408 887 8105
>> 
>> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>> 
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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Wed May 15 13:29:29 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 15:29:29 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
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Well, a BBQ engagement is certainly black flag worthy. ?


On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 10:06 AM Brad Eells <tr4abrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> In this case, it was the last race of the day, but there was a BBQ to get
> to...
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 15, 2019, at 5:21 AM, John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> For the sake of trying to stay on the vintage event schedule, some clubs
> will black flag a race instead of full course yellow or partial yellow to
> provide time for vehicle recovery, track cleanup, or to punish the group
> for not being polite to each other on the racetrack.
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 12:31 AM Mordy Dunst via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> Kas asked me to make a quick comnent on the race.
>>
>>
>> The  Linney video compilation is extraordinary.   The race started
>> cleanly enough.  The three leaders mueller, garmey and knight were duking
>> it  out in front. I had a ring side view watching them in fourth position.
>>   After about two laps Ken knight had a mechanical issue slowed and
>> eventually pulled off course near the sweeper.    That left john mueller
>> and Tony Garmey in front. After a couple of laps I was able to pass Tony on
>> the inside of the sweeper just before the Esses.   Tony was to recapture
>> that position on the next lap at riverside corner due to traffic
>> interference. He and Mueller were neck and neck.   I passed once again and
>> was behind Mueller when at the Truck stop turn Mueller got out of sorts and
>> off track.  Made lots of dust.  I had to avoid collision and  got out if
>> sorts too.  Made two 360?s and ended up facing the correct way on track
>> left. It was a dangerous spot.  . Took literally two minutes of cranking
>> motor until it cleared and fired up (just as safety truck arrived to
>> assist).   I took off but, a whole lap down.    I saw black flag at next
>> station (acknowledged it - thinking  it was for me) then recognized that
>> every flag station had a standing black flag.  I wondered why that was
>> needed.  Yes, there were a few cars with mechanicals  on course but,
>> they were very safe and off line.
>>
>> Mordy
>>
>>
>>
>> MDunst Headgasket.com 626.358.1616
>> Fax 626.628.3777
>> Triple R Munitions, Inc 626.201.9471
>> T FFL 6,7 SOT 2
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, John Linney via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I?m excited to let you all be the first to know that my video of the 2019
>> Kastner Cup race is now available to watch on my YouTube channel.
>> https://youtu.be/iLo1u5ZjNmI
>>
>> I hope I was able to capture even a small part of the spirit of the
>> event. As well as footage from my own cameras, there are shots generously
>> provided by drivers. The race portion consists of nine different camera
>> angles, all synchronized to real time to give a blow-by-blow account of
>> some very exciting racing.
>>
>> If you enjoy it, please help me do more by subscribing to my YouTube
>> channel and sharing it with your friends.
>>
>> If you are on Facebook, please also follow my page at https://www.facebook.com/ClassicMotorFilms/
>> to get updates on future projects. I have plans for other videos related
>> to the event, so it?s not too late if you have footage that didn?t make it
>> into this video.
>>
>> On both pages there is other stuff on Triumphs which I hope you will also
>> enjoy and share.
>>
>> I was truly honored to be given the opportunity to create this video, and
>> overwhelmed by the generosity and support of everyone I met over the
>> week-end.
>>
>> I?d especially like to thank Joe Alexander, Cregg Cowan, Shawn Frank,
>> Tony Garmey, and Curt Johnston as well as all the racers who so generously
>> provided footage.
>>
>> -john
>>
>> John Linney
>> Classic Motor Films
>> 408 887 8105
>>
>> https://classicmotorfilms.com
>>
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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed May 15 22:03:56 2019
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 21:03:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] Union Jack Challenge video
Message-ID: <139806162.61636.1557979437035@connect.xfinity.com>

Hello Friends,

I posted a video today of the Sunday all British race from the Buttonwillow event.  

Stay tuned for the Kastner Cup video.  I'll post it once it is edited.

Cheers,

Dave H.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdqHL-eFSSU
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From bownes at web9.com  Wed May 15 22:33:31 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 00:33:31 -0400
Subject: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
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If only someone had ever built one. Closest I can come is an F3 car with a
Dolomite Sprint motor in it. But it's based on a March 783 chassis. Of
which 11 were made. :(




On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:38 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> On 5/14/19 1:11 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
> > Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a
> > triumph based race car....
> >
>
> A formula car with a TR8 motor ....
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Thu May 16 06:16:22 2019
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (Paul MacDonald)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 08:16:22 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR8 engine
Message-ID: <001e01d50be1$2d92cc00$88b86400$@rogers.com>

Mickey Thomson 1962 Indy 500 with basically the same engine

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Thompson#1962

 

 

Jack Brabham  in a much modified Repco V8  engine used in F1

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repco

 

 

 

 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robert bownes via Fot
Sent: May 16, 2019 12:34 AM
To: Mark J Bradakis
Cc: FOT
Subject: Re: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video

 

 

If only someone had ever built one. Closest I can come is an F3 car with a Dolomite Sprint motor in it. But it's based on a March 783 chassis. Of which 11 were made. :(

 

 

 

 

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:38 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

On 5/14/19 1:11 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
> Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a 
> triumph based race car....
>

A formula car with a TR8 motor ....

mjb.


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From kknight at klaenv.com  Thu May 16 08:52:40 2019
From: kknight at klaenv.com (Kenneth Knight)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 07:52:40 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Useful website
Message-ID: <000f01d50bf7$02f81ca0$08e855e0$@klaenv.com>

In a gate building video I watched on YouTube the maker highlighted this
very cool website for making templates to cut pipe miters for welding.  I
looked at the site and there are many functions for layout and other things,
like pulley calculator, that are free and easy to use at home and in the
workshop.  Plans and templates can be printed.

 

Check out www.blocklayer.com  

 

Good building!

 

Ken

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From billdentin at aol.com  Thu May 16 09:03:28 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 15:03:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Useful website
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WOW!? Good stuff. ?
The concrete calculation stuff sure takes me back to my old days when I was a contractor..
Bill Dentinger


-----Original Message-----
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To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, May 16, 2019 7:53 am
Subject: [Fot] Useful website

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From rick.parent at att.net  Thu May 16 11:18:30 2019
From: rick.parent at att.net (Rick Parent)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 17:18:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Useful website
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 Believe it or not they have a great free gear calculator I use frequently.
https://www.blocklayer.com/rpm-gear.aspx
    On Thursday, May 16, 2019, 9:53:03 AM CDT, Kenneth Knight via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
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 ?

Check out www.blocklayer.com? 

 ?

Good building!

 ?

Ken
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From fmccjr at aol.com  Thu May 16 11:39:00 2019
From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:39:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
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Rings were stuck, and rust prevented valves from sealing. Head and pistons are at machine shop. Hoping to get it buttoned up before the VSCCA weekend st Lime Rock, first weekend in June.

I?m learning stuff about this TR3 race biz all the time. 

Rick McCurdy
Newburgh, NY

> On May 13, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Bill Dentinger <billdentin at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> Good for you, Rick.  
> 
> Just another one of us unstoppable...tenacious Triumph merry masochists...down, but not out!
> 
> I am proud of you.  
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick McCurdy via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, May 13, 2019 4:17 am
> Subject: [Fot] What a week. What a month. What a year.
> 
> Some of you may have heard about a New Yorkers? attempt to get to the 
> K Cup last weekend, but here?s the skinny:
> 
> After long weeks of long days, I finished repairing bodywork from when I smacked the wall backwards at the Canadian Vintage Gran Prix at Mosport last June, and the car reassembled (just) in time to depart New York?s Hudson Valley on Sunday morning,  April 28. Of course, the one thing I didn?t have time to do before loading was to get the car running. Since I was planning on passing through Dayton, I called a long time Sunbeam club friend and asked for help. (How tough is it to get a tractor engine to run?!) Doug Jennings, who owned Tiger Auto in Dayton for decades before retiring a few years ago was the perfect choice.
> 
> I arrived at Doug?s around 8:30, had a quick bite of his wife?s (wonderful!) Lasagna, and winched the car into his garage to get the tr3 started. 3 hours later, nothing. Bupkis. Nada. We could not get the car to even cough using starting fluid! New plugs the next morning didn?t matter. The car would. not. start. 
> 
> I left Dayton for home sometime after noon the next day, an unhappy camper. Disappointing as it was, there still is no sense in dragging a dead race car to California and back. So, I went home. 
> 
> There is spark, fuel and (barely)compression. When I got home I took it to another Brit car friend who owns a shop and offered to give it a look. We measured an average 105 lbs for comp (it should have done SOMETHING!) and timing was judged to be correct. What we did not do was a leak down test. I don?t know why we didn?t think of that before removing the head... Where the heck is mine when I need it?!
> 
> Head removal revealed some scoring of the walls, ugly corrosion in the chambers, but nothing blatant. When I crashed last year, apparently the top rad hose popped off the spout and water was introduced into the intake. Who knew!? I hit the wall backwards after rounding turn 10, and the little birdies were flying around the little stars before I shut down the motor and gingerly extricated myself from the car. I didn?t know for 6 more weeks that I had a handful of broken vertebrae (thank you, HANS device..!), now fully repaired with the neurosurgeons approval to race, by the way. I discovered the water evidence when I had to remove the manifolds to weld up the ripped exhaust collector. Inside the ports were rust remains that definitely should not have been there- and the starter didn?t spin the motor until I pulled plugs, squirted WD-40 into the cyls and bumped the started button until it loosened up and spun freely. 
> Next season, when the water is drained for winter, it will get the cylinders lubricated! That is, when I finally get the darn thing to run...
> 
> My big adventure was a bust. Bummed I missed it (a good one, from all the great comments!), bummed I didn?t get to see west coast friends, but still determined to be at Mid-Ohio next year!
> 
> Since I?ve had the head and manifolds off a number of times, it?s time for a new gaskets (both head and manifold). The solid copper gasket worked great, but took me at least three tries to get it to seal after the prev head gasket failed at the ?17 Lime Rock Historics. I ended up using silicone ll. It worked, but it?s messy and unorthodox.
> 
> So, does anyone have a suggestion for replacement gaskets? I?m not trying to be a frontrunner, I just crave reliability at this point- a weekend where I can drive off the trailer, race, and drive back on the trailer with nothing broken or suspect. Just once!
> 
> Down, but not out. Yours truly,
> 
> Rick McCurdy
> Newburgh, NY
> 
> I know... I know, I waited a long time to work on the car, but I was working on restoring a friends big Healey, and that had priority. It?s beautiful, but took much longer than anticipated. Just call me ?Mr. Vertical Learning Curve?!
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 16 12:29:22 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 13:29:22 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Mark on Gasoline Alley.
Message-ID: <F074926E-7FE6-455E-96FC-D36EDCCA6D13@gmail.com>

Mark is feeling the love on Gasoline Alley, today.

Mark started out with a business meeting at Dallara, today. 

But our regards to Mike Mehl today, as well. Unfortunately, Mike is missing the Indy 500 for the first time in nearly four decades. 

Our thoughts are with Mike.

Way to go, Mark!

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Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 16 15:30:04 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 16:30:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup Posters
Message-ID: <C959FE2B-3CB2-4E22-A9BE-5F95F4DA97AA@gmail.com>

FOT:

Still doing some Kastner Cup Funding.

By Popular Demand.  We ran some more. Only 25 available.

Artwork by Steve Belfer. 

$15 delivered.

Good time to order FOT 3 x 5 Decals. 

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Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


From bownes at web9.com  Thu May 16 16:23:40 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 18:23:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR8 engine
In-Reply-To: <001e01d50be1$2d92cc00$88b86400$@rogers.com>
References: <001e01d50be1$2d92cc00$88b86400$@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nORaDPv8jQ7dwLU9DowXfCfDtvi8MKAjXwoCNg8PZymRMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I suppose the 1967 F1 Brabham BT19 would qualify as a Triumph
derivative since it used Herald Saloon uprights at the front, but the REPCO
engine is too early to be a Triumph... ;)

But it would have to be a replica since there is only one. :)

Though the formula car chassis hanging in the garage isn't far off of the
Brabham. It uses the right front uprights... But a 300HP V8 through a pair
of rotoflex couplers seems a touch scary. :)




On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 8:16 AM Paul MacDonald <macdonaldp at rogers.com>
wrote:

> Mickey Thomson 1962 Indy 500 with basically the same engine
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Thompson#1962
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> Jack Brabham  in a much modified Repco V8  engine used in F1
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repco
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> *From:* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *robert
> bownes via Fot
> *Sent:* May 16, 2019 12:34 AM
> *To:* Mark J Bradakis
> *Cc:* FOT
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] 2019 Kastner Cup Race Day video
>
>
>
>
>
> If only someone had ever built one. Closest I can come is an F3 car with a
> Dolomite Sprint motor in it. But it's based on a March 783 chassis. Of
> which 11 were made. :(
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> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:38 AM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> On 5/14/19 1:11 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
> > Wow. Great footage, great editing, great overall. Now I really want a
> > triumph based race car....
> >
>
> A formula car with a TR8 motor ....
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri May 17 10:13:03 2019
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 11:13:03 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Heads Up.    Chris Marx Crankshaft Seal
References: <4B3DEB35-FF77-4EF9-BDAD-C1E79EC1E5CE.ref@cs.com>
Message-ID: <4B3DEB35-FF77-4EF9-BDAD-C1E79EC1E5CE@cs.com>

FOT:

Chris just sent us 10 more seal kits for distribution in North America.

Lowest price in our continent.

Gasketinnovations.com

There are some replacement seals available, too.

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711



From waldoracer at yahoo.com  Sat May 18 11:17:31 2019
From: waldoracer at yahoo.com (Ralf Schreyer)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 17:17:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] race 64 spitfire
References: <561516465.4289653.1558199852628.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <561516465.4289653.1558199852628@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi al, i have a question about fuel delivery, my car as raced (back in 1981) has electric fuel pump (pump appears to be adjustable), fuel cell to pump is 5/16" ID rubber (am still in wheel chair) can't hold hood open it does have SU's, from fuel pump to carbs is small brake line less than 1\8" ID. Was pressure an issue with these carbs so they restricted flow. Would stock metal line front to back have been 3\16" to 1\4" ID (I have to try and get brand off pump) hope pic comes through Thanks Ralf
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From waldoracer at yahoo.com  Sat May 18 11:39:31 2019
From: waldoracer at yahoo.com (Ralf Schreyer)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 17:39:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] race 64 spitfire
References: <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107@mail.yahoo.com>

HI , my computer will not let me shrink pics from my phone when painted in 70's they used lacquer but apparently 1 coat primer 1 coat color, paint is basically flaking off, which will make getting this car to base metal much easier. Thanks Ralf?
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sat May 18 14:22:13 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 13:22:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] race 64 spitfire
In-Reply-To: <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1963325319.4319941.1558201172107@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8124AB9A-A893-44A4-94B0-9AC78BE2530A@gmail.com>

Race car paint jobs were never very fancy.

Due to great storage, my 1970 Grabber Blue paint has held up well, showing its proper desert race track sand blast patina...

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 18, 2019, at 10:39 AM, Ralf Schreyer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> HI , my computer will not let me shrink pics from my phone when painted in 70's they used lacquer but apparently 1 coat primer 1 coat color, paint is basically flaking off, which will make getting this car to base metal much easier. Thanks Ralf 
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Sat May 18 14:30:55 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 13:30:55 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Fuel Supply
Message-ID: <33830928-60AD-4ADE-831C-25832E43892A@gmail.com>

Ralf,

Here is my set up. New cell in a modified original can. 3/8" out of the cell to filter and pump with Push-Lok fittings and hose. 

1/4" on the 'Out' side of the pump to steel tube under the car. Pressure regulator set at 3 PSI in the engine bay just forward of the 2 HS2 carbs.

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Sat May 18 20:16:05 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Sat, 18 May 2019 21:16:05 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Videos from Buttonwillow / Kas Cup
Message-ID: <e91e7b75-2756-3bee-72b5-eb8ab61b254c@tonydrews.com>

Kastner Cup race - good racing all race:

https://youtu.be/FGCiTu8YJrk

The next two are interesting for a few laps then get strung out.

Union Jack (all British) race:

https://youtu.be/GZ1hTOoghaU

Group 2 "Flag" race (last race Sunday):

https://youtu.be/nAVJzfND1z8

Regards, Tony



From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon May 20 06:13:46 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 12:13:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
References: <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919@mail.yahoo.com>

I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From TLizzard at msn.com  Mon May 20 10:23:16 2019
From: TLizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 16:23:16 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
In-Reply-To: <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919.ref@mail.yahoo.com>,
 <1062773360.2491595.1558354426919@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR08MB554850C2DF0541AFAD13632FC3060@DM6PR08MB5548.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Might that TR3 have been red on color?

Terry Stetler

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
To: fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon May 20 10:29:59 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 16:29:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
References: <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736@mail.yahoo.com>

 As a matter of fact it was, and now that I'm thinking about it, I recognize the car from somewhere...Glen
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 12:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

#yiv0873678472 #yiv0873678472 -- _filtered #yiv0873678472 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0873678472 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv0873678472 #yiv0873678472 p.yiv0873678472MsoNormal, #yiv0873678472 li.yiv0873678472MsoNormal, #yiv0873678472 div.yiv0873678472MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv0873678472 a:link, #yiv0873678472 span.yiv0873678472MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0873678472 a:visited, #yiv0873678472 span.yiv0873678472MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv0873678472 .yiv0873678472MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv0873678472 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv0873678472 div.yiv0873678472WordSection1 {} #yiv0873678472 Might that TR3 have been red on color? ? Terry Stetler ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
To: fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires????I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Mon May 20 12:13:16 2019
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (Dennis DeLap)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 13:13:16 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
Message-ID: <mailman.575.1638252671.13061.fot@autox.team.net>

AMICI 
I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
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From TLizzard at msn.com  Mon May 20 15:36:38 2019
From: TLizzard at msn.com (Terry Stetler)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 21:36:38 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
In-Reply-To: <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736.ref@mail.yahoo.com>,
 <1077576320.1814332.1558369799736@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DM6PR08MB554881672651655FFF7A3168C3060@DM6PR08MB5548.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Can?t wait for the after action report.

Terry

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

________________________________
From: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 12:29:59 PM
To: TLizzard at msn.com; fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

As a matter of fact it was, and now that I'm thinking about it, I recognize the car from somewhere...
Glen


-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 12:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

Might that TR3 have been red on color?

Terry Stetler

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________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
To: fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Mon May 20 15:45:11 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 21:45:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
References: <759922008.2806068.1558388711995.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <759922008.2806068.1558388711995@mail.yahoo.com>

 Well now that the rumors have started, I expect that the owner/driver will jump in here at some point with his side of the story...Glenps- yeah it was like bringing a knife to a gunfight with those treaded tires ha ha!
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 5:36 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

#yiv1013457441 #yiv1013457441 -- _filtered #yiv1013457441 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1013457441 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv1013457441 #yiv1013457441 p.yiv1013457441MsoNormal, #yiv1013457441 li.yiv1013457441MsoNormal, #yiv1013457441 div.yiv1013457441MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv1013457441 a:link, #yiv1013457441 span.yiv1013457441MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv1013457441 a:visited, #yiv1013457441 span.yiv1013457441MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv1013457441 .yiv1013457441MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv1013457441 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv1013457441 div.yiv1013457441WordSection1 {} #yiv1013457441 Can?t wait for the after action report. ? Terry ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 12:29:59 PM
To: TLizzard at msn.com; fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires????As a matter of fact it was, and now that I'm thinking about it, I recognize the car from somewhere...Glen


-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 12:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

#yiv1013457441 -- filtered {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}#yiv1013457441 filtered {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv1013457441 p.yiv1013457441MsoNormal, #yiv1013457441 li.yiv1013457441MsoNormal, #yiv1013457441 div.yiv1013457441MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv1013457441 a:link, #yiv1013457441 span.yiv1013457441MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1013457441 a:visited, #yiv1013457441 span.yiv1013457441MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1013457441 .yiv1013457441MsoChpDefault {}#yiv1013457441 filtered {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv1013457441 div.yiv1013457441WordSection1 {}#yiv1013457441 Might that TR3 have been red on color??Terry Stetler?Sent from Mail for Windows 10?From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
To: fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires????I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From bownes at web9.com  Mon May 20 18:50:42 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 20:50:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
In-Reply-To: <759922008.2806068.1558388711995@mail.yahoo.com>
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Many years ago I raced my 64 GP Spit at Lime Rock Park in Connecticut in
the SCCA Production/GT race in the morning, swapped the slicks off of it
over lunch for a set of A008Rs and raced it in the SCCA Vintage class race
in the afternoon.

The Production race was notable because my little 1147 GP Spit was out
there with a GT1 car driven by a well known former TR6 driver. I drew him
aside at the driver's meeting and said "Paul, I'll do my best to stay out
of your way, but with the closing speed you'll have on me, I might get
surprised." He said "Just drive your race kid, I'll worry about staying out
of your way", flashed that famous smile and wandered back to his trailer.
We both won our class, Though I think I was about 4 laps down on him.

iii

On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 8:39 PM fubog1 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Well now that the rumors have started, I expect that the owner/driver will
> jump in here at some point with his side of the story...
> Glen
> ps- yeah it was like bringing a knife to a gunfight with those treaded
> tires ha ha!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
> To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 5:36 pm
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
>
> Can?t wait for the after action report.
>
> Terry
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 20, 2019 12:29:59 PM
> *To:* TLizzard at msn.com; fot at Autox.Team.Net
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
>
> As a matter of fact it was, and now that I'm thinking about it, I
> recognize the car from somewhere...
> Glen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Terry Stetler <TLizzard at msn.com>
> To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net <fot at Autox.Team.Net>
> Sent: Mon, May 20, 2019 12:23 pm
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
>
> Might that TR3 have been red on color?
>
> Terry Stetler
>
> Sent from Mail
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> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of fubog1 via Fot <
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> *Sent:* Monday, May 20, 2019 8:13:46 AM
> *To:* fot at Autox.Team.Net
> *Subject:* [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
>
> I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a
> certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment)
> showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it,
> down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA
> SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
> Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper
> and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the
> races" for our intrepid Vintage race...
>
> Glen
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From billdentin at aol.com  Mon May 20 21:08:36 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 03:08:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
References: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312@mail.yahoo.com>

Dennis..,
I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now. ?She?ll need rare parts. ?Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?Bill Dentinger

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 On?Monday, May 20, 2019,?Dennis DeLap via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

AMICI 
I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
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From billdentin at aol.com  Mon May 20 21:08:36 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 03:08:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
References: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312@mail.yahoo.com>

Dennis..,
I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now. ?She?ll need rare parts. ?Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?Bill Dentinger

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
 On?Monday, May 20, 2019,?Dennis DeLap via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

AMICI 
I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
Thanks
Dennis _______________________________________________
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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue May 21 05:02:42 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 07:02:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
In-Reply-To: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Try Midnight Auto in Newton NJ. He?s got a racing Cortina tub for sale. midnightautopete at ptd.net


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2019, at 11:08 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Dennis..,
> 
> I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now.  She?ll need rare parts.  Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
> 
> On Monday, May 20, 2019, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> AMICI 
> I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
> Thanks
> Dennis
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From tredmond826 at gmail.com  Tue May 21 05:24:12 2019
From: tredmond826 at gmail.com (Todd Redmond)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 07:24:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
In-Reply-To: <360A5480-7FE5-4942-8DBF-5AD2FEB7B83F@aol.com>
References: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Yes he does! 
He has my TR3 now working on the roll-cage.  I was there this weekend and took this pick. 

Thanks
Todd Redmond

> On May 21, 2019, at 7:02 AM, Phil Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Try Midnight Auto in Newton NJ. He?s got a racing Cortina tub for sale. midnightautopete at ptd.net
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2019, at 11:08 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Dennis..,
>> 
>> I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now.  She?ll need rare parts.  Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?
>> Bill Dentinger
>> 
>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>> 
>> On Monday, May 20, 2019, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> AMICI 
>> I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
>> Thanks
>> Dennis
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From vfracing at aol.com  Tue May 21 08:27:04 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 10:27:04 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
In-Reply-To: <AFCA7963-D315-4770-B86A-62DF0D38573A@gmail.com>
References: <1977937796.5332839.1558408116312.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 21, 2019, at 7:24 AM, Todd Redmond via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes he does! 
> He has my TR3 now working on the roll-cage.  I was there this weekend and took this pick. 
> 
> Thanks
> Todd Redmond
> 
>> On May 21, 2019, at 7:02 AM, Phil Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Try Midnight Auto in Newton NJ. He?s got a racing Cortina tub for sale. midnightautopete at ptd.net
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2019, at 11:08 PM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dennis..,
>>> 
>>> I knew a Corina Ford in Dubuque years ago, but she was only a Mark 3, at best. She?s got to be in her late 70s or early 80s now.  She?ll need rare parts.  Certainly new seals. Does Joannie know about this?
>>> Bill Dentinger
>>> 
>>> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
>>> 
>>> On Monday, May 20, 2019, Dennis DeLap via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> AMICI 
>>> I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone know of one?
>>> Thanks
>>> Dennis
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>>> 
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From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Tue May 21 08:43:12 2019
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Todd Redmond)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 10:43:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Fot] Ford Cortina
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Dennis,


I just spoke with Pete. He does have a Cortina for sale.? Actually its a 
two tubs for one sale.


He said give him a call 973.383.8859.


I took this picture this past Sunday.? He is working on the Rollcage on 
my TR3.


Good Luck!
Todd



On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 02:13 PM, Dennis DeLap via Fot wrote:

AMICI
I'm looking for a project - Ford Cortina. Preferably a MK I. Does anyone 
know of one?
Thanks
Dennis
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Tue May 21 10:27:33 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 09:27:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Herald
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Who was looking for a Herald?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Triumph-Herald/173903013559

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From sjanzen at me.com  Tue May 21 20:31:47 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 22:31:47 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
Message-ID: <BA0DE2A9-943F-425E-9A33-65B505252A5C@me.com>

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.  
After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:

1 - 200 and 2%
2- 180 and 6%
3 - 180 and 9%
4 - 195 and 0%
5 - 190 and 0%
6 - 185 and 0%

Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher. 
There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speed
What do i have - failing rings?  
Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated.

Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke
Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others 
Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one

Scott Janzen

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From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be  Wed May 22 02:14:01 2019
From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 10:14:01 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
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If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter, then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad news. 
Marcel 


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Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Verzonden: Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47 
Onderwerp: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause? 

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing. 
After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer. 
Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole. 
Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test. Cold engine results: 

1 - 200 and 2% 
2- 180 and 6% 
3 - 180 and 9% 
4 - 195 and 0% 
5 - 190 and 0% 
6 - 185 and 0% 

Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero. So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher. 
There was no excess oil until the last session. Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM. 
EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speed 
What do i have - failing rings? 
Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated. 

Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember. 
TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar 
GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke 
Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others 
Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one 

Scott Janzen 


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From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com  Wed May 22 04:51:00 2019
From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 10:51:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
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 Hi,
First off - I'd only to the leakdown test with the engine hot. Cold numbers don't really count. The numbers that you give look pretty good from a leakdown perspective. As a point of reference, with >10% leakdown into the sump in a couple of cylinders, you will see oil drip out of the strangest places (like around the nuts holding the valve cover down and the filler cap to which you refer.) So, either your gauge is lying or you need to verify your numbers with the engine at operating temps (and see if the numbers change). If you have access to another gauge, that might help figure out if anything is wrong. Oh, and is there any oil fouling on the plugs? Blow by should also introduce some oil into the cylinders when you lift off...

I think Marcel's suggestion has merit.
Let us know if you find anything.
Regards,Bob Lang

    On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 4:14:19 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter, then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad? news.Marcel
Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47
Onderwerp: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing. ?After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test. ?Cold engine results:
1 - 200 and 2%2- 180 and 6%3 - 180 and 9%4 - 195 and 0%5 - 190 and 0%6 - 185 and 0%
Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero. ?So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.?There was no excess oil until the last session. ?Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speedWhat do i have - failing rings? ?Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated.
Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John StyduharGT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case brokeSpitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others?Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
Scott Janzen

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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Wed May 22 05:05:33 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 07:05:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
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If you have an accusump, check if the valve is operating properly.  Maybe
the valve was closed accidentally during running and the engine oil level
was excessive.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> First off - I'd only to the leakdown test with the engine hot. Cold
> numbers don't really count. The numbers that you give look pretty good from
> a leakdown perspective. As a point of reference, with >10% leakdown into
> the sump in a couple of cylinders, you will see oil drip out of the
> strangest places (like around the nuts holding the valve cover down and the
> filler cap to which you refer.) So, either your gauge is lying or you need
> to verify your numbers with the engine at operating temps (and see if the
> numbers change). If you have access to another gauge, that might help
> figure out if anything is wrong. Oh, and is there any oil fouling on the
> plugs? Blow by should also introduce some oil into the cylinders when you
> lift off...
>
> I think Marcel's suggestion has merit.
>
> Let us know if you find anything.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Lang
>
> On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 4:14:19 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots
> of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially
> when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter,
> then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow
> by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad  news.
> Marcel
>
> ------------------------------
> *Van: *"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Aan: *"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Verzonden: *Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47
> *Onderwerp: *[Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
>
> I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and
> lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
> After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the
> trailer.
> Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil
> blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
> Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:
>
> 1 - 200 and 2%
> 2- 180 and 6%
> 3 - 180 and 9%
> 4 - 195 and 0%
> 5 - 190 and 0%
> 6 - 185 and 0%
>
> Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite
> right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last
> three is slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three
> is higher.
> There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50
> hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
> EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored
> cylinders at top speed
> What do i have - failing rings?
> Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing
> apart would be appreciated.
>
> Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
> TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
> GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke
> Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
> Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
>
> Scott Janzen
>
>
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From joeg at neb.rr.com  Wed May 22 09:24:04 2019
From: joeg at neb.rr.com (Joe Guinan)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 10:24:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
Message-ID: <009b01d510b2$658dc2b0$30a94810$@neb.rr.com>

John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his Vitesse
racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com

May I have a second?

Joe Guinan
Fremont, Nebraska

This note is from John...
I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
to the Great Garage in the Sky.   Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take best
advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
Ferrari.


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From dbm.spitfire at gmail.com  Wed May 22 09:34:16 2019
From: dbm.spitfire at gmail.com (Doug Mitchell)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:34:16 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
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Seconded. Welcome John.

On Wed, May 22, 2019, 11:25 AM Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
> Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
> can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his
> Vitesse
> racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
> John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com
>
> May I have a second?
>
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, Nebraska
>
> This note is from John...
> I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
> to the Great Garage in the Sky.   Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
> SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
> grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
> I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
> Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
> completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
> building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take
> best
> advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
> Ferrari.
>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Wed May 22 09:49:33 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:49:33 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause? Update.
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Haven?t figured out the problem yet, but I thought this explanation from Longacre on how a leakdown gauge works might interest you all.

"The leak down gauge is simply a 100 psi gauge that reads backwards from a tire pressure gauge. Basically if you have 100 psi going to your cylinder and it doesn?t leak down at all then it will show you 0 leak down and/or 100 psi if it was a normal pressure gauge. If your regulator is set higher then 100 then the leakdown gauge will go below zero because its showing a higher pressure."

So, one of my gauges is no longer reading correctly, as I?m getting a higher pressure on the cylinder than on the supply, on some cylinders.  Have to swap them out to figure out which, and then I?ll be able to determine how much leakdown there really is.  

More to follow this weekend!

On May 22, 2019, at 7:05 AM, John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com> wrote:

If you have an accusump, check if the valve is operating properly.  Maybe the valve was closed accidentally during running and the engine oil level was excessive.  

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hi,

First off - I'd only to the leakdown test with the engine hot. Cold numbers don't really count. The numbers that you give look pretty good from a leakdown perspective. As a point of reference, with >10% leakdown into the sump in a couple of cylinders, you will see oil drip out of the strangest places (like around the nuts holding the valve cover down and the filler cap to which you refer.) So, either your gauge is lying or you need to verify your numbers with the engine at operating temps (and see if the numbers change). If you have access to another gauge, that might help figure out if anything is wrong. Oh, and is there any oil fouling on the plugs? Blow by should also introduce some oil into the cylinders when you lift off...

I think Marcel's suggestion has merit.

Let us know if you find anything.

Regards,
Bob Lang

On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 4:14:19 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter, then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad  news.
Marcel

Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Verzonden: Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47
Onderwerp: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.  
After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:

1 - 200 and 2%
2- 180 and 6%
3 - 180 and 9%
4 - 195 and 0%
5 - 190 and 0%
6 - 185 and 0%

Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher. 
There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speed
What do i have - failing rings?  
Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated.

Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke
Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others 
Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one

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From billdentin at aol.com  Wed May 22 09:50:38 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 15:50:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
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Amici...
SECOND!
I love the graphics on John Davies' Old Blue.
And of course, the FOT already has one Old Blue, and there was also Uncle Jack's New Blue.
Room for all.
Bill Dentinger


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To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
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Sent: Wed, May 22, 2019 8:24 am
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer

John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his Vitesse
racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com

May I have a second?

Joe Guinan
Fremont, Nebraska

This note is from John...
I race a Vitesse in the UK.? ? It's my third, the previous two having gone
to the Great Garage in the Sky.? Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
SofS? (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
grandfathers hat).? ? This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.? ? Currently
building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take best
advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.? And looking for a job at
Ferrari.


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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Wed May 22 10:02:42 2019
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 09:02:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Fot] TR3 spins at Buttonwillow
Message-ID: <138319185.103300.1558540962702@connect.xfinity.com>

Hey gang,

I thought I'd share this video of my first spin in my TR3. It seems that getting the tires on the painted concrete while under full throttle is not conducive to forward movement.

I was lucky to get away with this one unscathed.  As I start to spin I look to my left to see Walt coming toward my door with his TR6, so I hit the throttle to get out of his way completing a 360.  Also, the only concrete wall at the track was close by too.  I gave a no harm done woohoo when I came to a stop.

I catch another slide while passing a Mini around the 7 minute mark. 

Dave H.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxKBDyA_cEU&t=12s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxKBDyA_cEU&t=12s
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed May 22 10:15:50 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:15:50 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
In-Reply-To: <789884620.6196829.1558540238564@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <789884620.6196829.1558540238564.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Dr. Davies,

Would you be interested in shipping your Vitesse to Mid-Ohio for the 2020 Kastner Cup in June? We have one Triumph being air shipped, and perhaps three other Triumphs being shipped by water. In 2002 we had EIGHT Triumphs from the U.K.

We would be pleased if you considered this.

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 22, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Amici...
> 
> SECOND!
> 
> I love the graphics on John Davies' Old Blue.
> 
> And of course, the FOT already has one Old Blue, and there was also Uncle Jack's New Blue.
> 
> Room for all.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Cc: john.r.davies <john.r.davies at btinternet.com>
> Sent: Wed, May 22, 2019 8:24 am
> Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
> 
> John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
> Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
> can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his Vitesse
> racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
> John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com
> 
> May I have a second?
> 
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, Nebraska
> 
> This note is from John...
> I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
> to the Great Garage in the Sky.  Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
> SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
> grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
> I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
> Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
> completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
> building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take best
> advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
> Ferrari.
> 
> 
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed May 22 10:45:14 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 11:45:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
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Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 22, 2019, at 10:50 AM, Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Amici...
> 
> SECOND!
> 
> I love the graphics on John Davies' Old Blue.
> 
> And of course, the FOT already has one Old Blue, and there was also Uncle Jack's New Blue.
> 
> Room for all.
> 
> Bill Dentinger
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Cc: john.r.davies <john.r.davies at btinternet.com>
> Sent: Wed, May 22, 2019 8:24 am
> Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
> 
> John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
> Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
> can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his Vitesse
> racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
> John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com
> 
> May I have a second?
> 
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, Nebraska
> 
> This note is from John...
> I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
> to the Great Garage in the Sky.  Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
> SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
> grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
> I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
> Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
> completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
> building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take best
> advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
> Ferrari.
> 
> 
> ---
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed May 22 13:47:58 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 19:47:58 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause? Update.
In-Reply-To: <643E8D4B-D7A8-4FD7-93CF-1C34F2835FD8@me.com>
References: <BA0DE2A9-943F-425E-9A33-65B505252A5C@me.com>
 <1950843686.21347015.1558512841544.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be>
 <1553035523.3499007.1558522261128@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAMJWJcHWoPCKBybA5Rp4YwmnYFMz5aSh50pm6drHm8oKQCNVvw@mail.gmail.com>
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That?s a great tip!!  Change your regulator setting and you?ll have no leakdown!  Problem solved.  You?re welcome.  :-)

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 10:50 AM
To: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause? Update.

Haven?t figured out the problem yet, but I thought this explanation from Longacre on how a leakdown gauge works might interest you all.

"The leak down gauge is simply a 100 psi gauge that reads backwards from a tire pressure gauge. Basically if you have 100 psi going to your cylinder and it doesn?t leak down at all then it will show you 0 leak down and/or 100 psi if it was a normal pressure gauge. If your regulator is set higher then 100 then the leakdown gauge will go below zero because its showing a higher pressure."

So, one of my gauges is no longer reading correctly, as I?m getting a higher pressure on the cylinder than on the supply, on some cylinders.  Have to swap them out to figure out which, and then I?ll be able to determine how much leakdown there really is.

More to follow this weekend!

On May 22, 2019, at 7:05 AM, John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com<mailto:johnstydo at gmail.com>> wrote:

If you have an accusump, check if the valve is operating properly.  Maybe the valve was closed accidentally during running and the engine oil level was excessive.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:54 AM Robert Lang via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hi,

First off - I'd only to the leakdown test with the engine hot. Cold numbers don't really count. The numbers that you give look pretty good from a leakdown perspective. As a point of reference, with >10% leakdown into the sump in a couple of cylinders, you will see oil drip out of the strangest places (like around the nuts holding the valve cover down and the filler cap to which you refer.) So, either your gauge is lying or you need to verify your numbers with the engine at operating temps (and see if the numbers change). If you have access to another gauge, that might help figure out if anything is wrong. Oh, and is there any oil fouling on the plugs? Blow by should also introduce some oil into the cylinders when you lift off...

I think Marcel's suggestion has merit.

Let us know if you find anything.

Regards,
Bob Lang

On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, 4:14:19 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:


If the catch can has a connection to a (low) spot of the crankcase, lots of oil can be pushed into the catch can at the track curves, especially when the duct between the crankcase and the can has only a small diameter, then the oil cannot return to the crankcase. It means there is some blow by, but maybe the symptoms are not necessarily bad  news.
Marcel

________________________________
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Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Verzonden: Woensdag 22 mei 2019 04:31:47
Onderwerp: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?

I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:

1 - 200 and 2%
2- 180 and 6%
3 - 180 and 9%
4 - 195 and 0%
5 - 190 and 0%
6 - 185 and 0%

Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right, as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.
There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored cylinders at top speed
What do i have - failing rings?
Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart would be appreciated.

Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke
Spitfire - Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one

Scott Janzen


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From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed May 22 15:30:44 2019
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 16:30:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Historically Significant Triumph Race Cars. Display at The
 Glen. Two Triumphs needed.
Message-ID: <B502AAAC-FAF8-43FC-82D9-0A0973A65696@cs.com>

FOT:

We are looking for two candidates for display.

They would be on display in the IMRRC Facility at Watkins Glen for at least the duration of the SVRA event in September 2019.

The candidate Cars could not do double duty as a race entry, but COULD be released for the re-enactment on Friday.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711




From vfracing at aol.com  Wed May 22 20:44:14 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Wed, 22 May 2019 22:44:14 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Historically Significant Triumph Race Cars. Display at
 The Glen. Two Triumphs needed.
In-Reply-To: <B502AAAC-FAF8-43FC-82D9-0A0973A65696@cs.com>
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Tim Sudard?s Ex Daytona TR 3?

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> On May 22, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> FOT:
> 
> We are looking for two candidates for display.
> 
> They would be on display in the IMRRC Facility at Watkins Glen for at least the duration of the SVRA event in September 2019.
> 
> The candidate Cars could not do double duty as a race entry, but COULD be released for the re-enactment on Friday.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
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From billdentin at aol.com  Wed May 22 20:55:31 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 02:55:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Historically Significant Triumph Race Cars. Display at
 The Glen. Two Triumphs needed.
References: <1641135140.3857164.1558580131839.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1641135140.3857164.1558580131839@mail.yahoo.com>

Don?t be silly. ?
All TRIUMPHS are significant!
Bill Dentinger

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
 On?Wednesday, May 22, 2019,?Phil Gott via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Tim Sudard?s Ex Daytona TR 3?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 22, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> FOT:
> 
> We are looking for two candidates for display.
> 
> They would be on display in the IMRRC Facility at Watkins Glen for at least the duration of the SVRA event in September 2019.
> 
> The candidate Cars could not do double duty as a race entry, but COULD be released for the re-enactment on Friday.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:? 319.464.4711
> 
> 
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From billdentin at aol.com  Wed May 22 20:55:31 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 02:55:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Historically Significant Triumph Race Cars. Display at
 The Glen. Two Triumphs needed.
References: <1641135140.3857164.1558580131839.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1641135140.3857164.1558580131839@mail.yahoo.com>

Don?t be silly. ?
All TRIUMPHS are significant!
Bill Dentinger

Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
 On?Wednesday, May 22, 2019,?Phil Gott via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

Tim Sudard?s Ex Daytona TR 3?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 22, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> FOT:
> 
> We are looking for two candidates for display.
> 
> They would be on display in the IMRRC Facility at Watkins Glen for at least the duration of the SVRA event in September 2019.
> 
> The candidate Cars could not do double duty as a race entry, but COULD be released for the re-enactment on Friday.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:? 319.464.4711
> 
> 
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From ofracer at gmail.com  Thu May 23 02:24:44 2019
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 04:24:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nomination of John Davies, UK Vitesse Racer
In-Reply-To: <009b01d510b2$658dc2b0$30a94810$@neb.rr.com>
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I'll third him, John has been a great help on the Triumph forum and he has
the coolest avatar.

Mike h


On Wednesday, May 22, 2019, Joe Guinan via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> John Davies and I have become acquainted in conversations on The Triumph
> Experience web site. I'd like to nominate John to membership in the FOT. He
> can be found in the Lancaster area of the UK behind the wheel of his
> Vitesse
> racer, "Old Blue". (Picture attached of Old Blue and it's predecessors)
> John's email is john.r.davies at btinternet.com
>
> May I have a second?
>
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, Nebraska
>
> This note is from John...
> I race a Vitesse in the UK.    It's my third, the previous two having gone
> to the Great Garage in the Sky.   Pic enclosed, of Old Blue, Silverback and
> SofS  (Son of Silverback - it has many of its fathers parts and its
> grandfathers hat).    This is AFAIK the last racing Vitesse in the UK.
> I'm a 72 yo retired doctor, who worked as a rally medic for many years.
> Since I retired and gave up medicine, I went back to school and have just
> completed a BSc degree course in Motorsport engineering.    Currently
> building a race 2.5 engine to replace the 2l currently in SofS, to take
> best
> advantage of its Lucas Pi, and other mods.  And looking for a job at
> Ferrari.
>
>
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Thu May 23 02:33:24 2019
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (JOHN DAVIES)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:33:24 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
Message-ID: <412421.69811.1558600404333.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>

I am honoured to be nominated to join the Friends of Triumph!
My thanks to all those who put me forward and supported me.
It may be that my current car, SofS, is more historic than I am - I built my previous two race Vitesses, Old Blue from a standard Vitesse, and Silverback from a Herald 13/60 Estate.      SofS was first registered as a road car in 1970, and was modified for racing in about 1980, I don't know who by, but it was raced by Mike "Barney Rubble" Barnes in the UK TSSC series.     It then was owned by Mark Plausin and worked on by John Sadler of "Trioomph", who had his own Vitesse and raced together as a team.      I raced my first, Old Blue Vitesse against them, and I enclose pictures of my car now and then from the 90s, when John was driving it.      Old Blue went to the Great Garage in the Sky in an accident, and I elected to build Silverback as an experiment in aerodynamics.  Inspired by the Volvo estates then racing in the British Touring Car Championship, I went further and built it rear-radiatored, with a front spoiler from Old Blue and side skirts, to minimise undercar airflow.     I can't claim any down force, but I think we had less lift!
Wiped out on the N?rburgring by a Group 2 Porsche, two weeks later I found SofS on sale from the back of Mark Plausin's barn.    It was meant to be mine!    But twelve years of storage,  some ill-advised suspension and engine building had taken their toll, and I transplanted the engine, front and rear suspension from Silverback into it, and named it Son of Silverback, SofS, as it had so many of it's father's parts.      Mark had a GRP coupe roof on it, as had Old Blue because of the Regs of one series we ran in, and after the glasshouse of the estate I found that cramped and pokey.   So I fitted the roof from Old Blue and SofS has its grandfather's hat on as well!
Since then, we've competed in the Classic Sports Car Club Swinging 60s (!) series, been to Le Mans (to visit the Classic) and Spa (to race).   Currently working on a new 2.5L engine to complement the Lucas Pi that is fitted.
Some pics enclosed, of SofS today, and long ago next to Old Blue.   And for completeness, of Silverback in it's pomp.
Best wishes, and looking forward to news of US Triumph racing!
JOhn
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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu May 23 04:15:20 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 06:15:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
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Welcome John!
Phil Gott
65 TR4A

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2019, at 4:33 AM, JOHN DAVIES via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I am honoured to be nominated to join the Friends of Triumph!
> My thanks to all those who put me forward and supported me.
> 
> It may be that my current car, SofS, is more historic than I am - I built my previous two race Vitesses, Old Blue from a standard Vitesse, and Silverback from a Herald 13/60 Estate.      SofS was first registered as a road car in 1970, and was modified for racing in about 1980, I don't know who by, but it was raced by Mike "Barney Rubble" Barnes in the UK TSSC series.     It then was owned by Mark Plausin and worked on by John Sadler of "Trioomph", who had his own Vitesse and raced together as a team.      I raced my first, Old Blue Vitesse against them, and I enclose pictures of my car now and then from the 90s, when John was driving it.      Old Blue went to the Great Garage in the Sky in an accident, and I elected to build Silverback as an experiment in aerodynamics.  Inspired by the Volvo estates then racing in the British Touring Car Championship, I went further and built it rear-radiatored, with a front spoiler from Old Blue and side skirts, to minimise undercar airflow.     I can't claim any down force, but I think we had less lift!
> 
> Wiped out on the N?rburgring by a Group 2 Porsche, two weeks later I found SofS on sale from the back of Mark Plausin's barn.    It was meant to be mine!    But twelve years of storage,  some ill-advised suspension and engine building had taken their toll, and I transplanted the engine, front and rear suspension from Silverback into it, and named it Son of Silverback, SofS, as it had so many of it's father's parts.      Mark had a GRP coupe roof on it, as had Old Blue because of the Regs of one series we ran in, and after the glasshouse of the estate I found that cramped and pokey.   So I fitted the roof from Old Blue and SofS has its grandfather's hat on as well!
> 
> Since then, we've competed in the Classic Sports Car Club Swinging 60s (!) series, been to Le Mans (to visit the Classic) and Spa (to race).   Currently working on a new 2.5L engine to complement the Lucas Pi that is fitted.
> 
> Some pics enclosed, of SofS today, and long ago next to Old Blue.   And for completeness, of Silverback in it's pomp.
> 
> Best wishes, and looking forward to news of US Triumph racing!
> 
> JOhn
> <Nurburgring 2007 019.jpg>
> <Green Vitesse with John Sadler, Pembrey 1994.jpg>
> <Bo'ness 2018.jpg>
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From grandwazoo at earthlink.net  Thu May 23 07:12:34 2019
From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:12:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
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From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Thu May 23 07:22:23 2019
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (DPPI - Mark Craig)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 13:22:23 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
In-Reply-To: <405404905.1250.1558617154499@wamui-megara.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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Mike,

Hey I know you had a good time, and you finished, and you checked off a bucket list item.
Not so bad from my perspective.
Don?t show my grammar to Sandy OK??

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Jackson via Fot
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 8:13 AM
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

Yes, it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vintage TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=0  And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.

I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.

It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3 (thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from being fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru registration and tech with not a flinch.

The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) would have me black flagged.  They did not.

Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and on and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vintage race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.

But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like to achieve.

Mike
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From rikrock at live.com  Thu May 23 07:27:50 2019
From: rikrock at live.com (Rich rock)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 13:27:50 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
In-Reply-To: <405404905.1250.1558617154499@wamui-megara.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <405404905.1250.1558617154499@wamui-megara.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Mike Jackson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:12:34 AM
To: fubog1; fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

Yes, it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vintage TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=0  And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.

I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.

It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3 (thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from being fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru registration and tech with not a flinch.

The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) would have me black flagged.  They did not.

Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and on and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vintage race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.

But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like to achieve.

Mike
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...

Glen
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From jerryvv at roadrunner.com  Thu May 23 07:31:20 2019
From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 09:31:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
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Message-ID: <0F972664352D4733845725480CAFE438@VlackTK121647>

Bill Emory is smiling down on you Mike. For those of you who don?t know who Bill Emory is / was; I?ll tell you a bit about him. He was a member of the Steel Cities SCCA and raced a TR3 for more than 40 years mostly at Nelson Ledges in Ohio but at other regional tracks as well. I first met Bill in 1969 while crewing for a friend who raced a TR4. There were parts on his car from Donna Mae Mimms pink TR3 which I believe Tim at Grassroots has as well as Bill?s TR3. Somewhere there is an article about Bill in one of the Steel Cities newsletters who at one point honored him for his racing legend. Maybe someone has a link to that article. So Mike good for you to honor those who went before you, Bill was one of many TR3 SCCA racers.

From: Mike Jackson via Fot 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:12 AM
To: fubog1 ; fot at Autox.Team.Net 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???

Yes, it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vintage TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=0  And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.

I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.

It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3 (thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from being fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru registration and tech with not a flinch.

The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) would have me black flagged.  They did not.

Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and on and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vintage race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.

But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like to achieve.  

Mike
  Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires??? 


  I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
  Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...



  Glen



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From john.r.davies at btinternet.com  Thu May 23 08:09:10 2019
From: john.r.davies at btinternet.com (JOHN DAVIES)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 15:09:10 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
Message-ID: <4472901.397421.1558620550821.JavaMail.defaultUser@defaultHost>

What?    You have to use slicks for your production/modded car racing?    Just the opposite here in the UK - club racing, unless single seaters, uses treaded tyres, often Yokohamas with medium or soft tread.
Each to their own.  
What are the regs for the Kastner Trophy?
John----Original message----
>From : fot at autox.team.net
Date : 23/05/2019 - 14:31 (GMTST)
To : grandwazoo at earthlink.net, fubog1 at aol.com, fot at Autox.Team.Net
Subject : Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires???
Bill Emory is smiling down on you Mike. For those of you who don?t know who 
Bill Emory is / was; I?ll tell you a bit about him. He was a member of the Steel 
Cities SCCA and raced a TR3 for more than 40 years mostly at Nelson Ledges in 
Ohio but at other regional tracks as well. I first met Bill in 1969 while 
crewing for a friend who raced a TR4. There were parts on his car from Donna Mae 
Mimms pink TR3 which I believe Tim at Grassroots has as well as Bill?s TR3. 
Somewhere there is an article about Bill in one of the Steel Cities newsletters 
who at one point honored him for his racing legend. Maybe someone has a link to 
that article. So Mike good for you to honor those who went before you, Bill was 
one of many TR3 SCCA racers.
From: Mike 
Jackson via Fot 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:12 AM
To: fubog1 ; fot at Autox.Team.Net 
Subject: Re: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded 
tires???
Yes, 
it was me (English teacher wife says it should be Yes, it was I) with my vintage 
TR3 in the  SCCA race last weekend at Palm Beach International 
Raceway.  Here is a link to us on the grid for the race 
 https://www.dropbox.com/s/kixjcx4ubusmbtf/on%20the%20grid.jpg?dl=0  
And yes, it was on Hoosier Vintage tires.
I'm a 31 year member of SCCA and I've held a National license for all those 
years but had NEVER been in an actual classed race with any car meeting the 
requirements of a class.  I'd long held a desire to do so before I retired 
from racing but I'm too cheap to rent a modern race car.
It had been a while since I'd driven my beautiful and well prepared TR3 
(thanks to Glen Efinger!) and reviewing the upcoming options to do so, most 
interfered with family travel plans for the summer.  So, since this event 
was essentially in my back yard.....6 miles from my driveway.....it was the 
perfect opportunity.  For the previous month I sucked up to the Chief of 
Tech and the Race Chairman to let the things that prevented my car from being 
fully EP legal slide for this one time.  That worked well and we slid thru 
registration and tech with not a flinch.
The next opportunity for it to go bad was on the grid.  But, as you 
can see in the pic, there I was next to a fully prepared Spitfire driven by my 
friend and team mate Tim Slater.  Then, I hold my breath for the first 
couple of laps wondering if the stewards (SCCA has a ton of them at every event) 
would have me black flagged.  They did not.
Here's the bottom line - there must be something to those 
flares/slicks/fancy suspension/fancy brakes/after market transmissions and on 
and on.  Tim's yellow Spit quickly became a dot ahead of me in spite of my 
lap times being in the range of what I can turn on this same track in a vintage 
race.   For a while I was able to hold off the VW that was running 
last.  But, even that didnt work for the entire 15 lap race and my 30+ year 
friend and I eventually finished dead f&^ing last.  Oh, well.
But, I have now checked off one more item from the list of things I'd like 
to achieve.  
Mike
Subject: [Fot] Rumortime, an E-prod TR-3 on treaded tires??? 
  
  
  
I don't have any details, (I know nuthink!), but scuttlebutt 
  is that a certain Vintage driver (name withheld to avoid possible 
  embarrassment) showed up with a Vintage TR-3 racecar with Vintage treaded 
  tires on it, down at PBIR this past weekend... but... the problem was that it 
  was a SCCA SAARC Regional race, no Vintage class.
  
Not to be deterred by that minor detail, a couple pieces of 
  white paper and a home printer produced a very nice "EP"... and it was "off to 
  the races" for our intrepid Vintage race...
  
  
Glen
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu May 23 10:12:51 2019
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 18:12:51 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR8 IMSA GTO is going to Brands Hatch
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Hi Guys,

 

the next seasons race is round the corner.

Tomorrow morning I leave for Brands Hatch.

We are racing on the GP version, the big track.

 

Have been a while that I was in England.

Thought it would be wise to go there before Britain sets sail to America and leaving the EU.

 

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From bschirano at yahoo.com  Thu May 23 20:23:16 2019
From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 02:23:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Hey Friends
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
Normal / Correct??
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

ThanksBrian
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From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be  Fri May 24 04:07:36 2019
From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:07:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Brian, you are right, it's better to correct this : the spring (fingers) are working in a wrong range and it's possible the disc won't disengage and the clutch will fail after some time. When mounting and tightening the pressure plate, the fingers should move inward no more than 2 or 3mm. 
You can correct this by putting washers between the six feet of the PP and the flywheel. These washers ought to be hard steel : shims, not common mild steel washers. 
Marcel 


Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Aan: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 04:23:16 
Onderwerp: [Fot] laycock clutch question 

Hey Friends 

just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 

Normal / Correct? 

am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please 

Thanks 
Brian 

26A GT6+ 
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585-305-0349 Cell 
BSchirano at yahoo.com 

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From vfracing at aol.com  Fri May 24 04:19:17 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 06:19:17 -0400
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
In-Reply-To: <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952@mail.yahoo.com>
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Brian;
All perfectly normal.
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
Enjoy your new clutch!
Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hey Friends
> 
> just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 
> 
> Normal / Correct? 
> 
> am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please
> 
> Thanks
> Brian
> 
> 26A GT6+
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349 Cell 
> BSchirano at yahoo.com
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From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be  Fri May 24 05:25:55 2019
From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 13:25:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather. 
Marcel. 

Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com> 
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net> 
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17 
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question 

Brian; 
All perfectly normal. 
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat. 
Enjoy your new clutch! 
Phil Gott 

Sent from my iPhone 

On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: 




Hey Friends 

just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 

Normal / Correct? 

am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please 

Thanks 
Brian 

26A GT6+ 
Brian Schirano 
585-305-0349 Cell 
[ mailto:BSchirano at yahoo.com | BSchirano at yahoo.com ] 



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From bschirano at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 05:30:36 2019
From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:30:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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I suppose it depressed about three mm. The previous PP had a more distinctive cone shape before and after, but it's been three years since I had to R & R the trans, so memory not too clear.
Will have to do a test as best I can?
ThanksBrian
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    On Friday, May 24, 2019, 7:26:00 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.Marcel.Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Brian;All perfectly normal.Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.Enjoy your new clutch!Phil Gott

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On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hey Friends
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
Normal / Correct??
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

ThanksBrian
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585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com


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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 24 05:56:23 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:56:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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 If you're using a stock thickness disc, and the PP is to spec, you should be fine.If you use a thicker disc, the PP has to be shimmed accordingly, because the geometry is changed and the over-center/release point will be off.HTH
Glen
 
 
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Sent: Thu, May 23, 2019 10:24 pm
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Hey Friends
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
Normal / Correct??
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

ThanksBrian
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From vfracing at aol.com  Fri May 24 06:31:48 2019
From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 08:31:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Marcel, Brian;
I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.
Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
Hope this clears up any confusion.
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote:
> 
> 
> So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
> Marcel.
> Van: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
> Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
> 
> Brian;
> All perfectly normal.
> Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
> Enjoy your new clutch!
> Phil Gott
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hey Friends
> 
> just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 
> 
> Normal / Correct? 
> 
> am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please
> 
> Thanks
> Brian
> 
> 26A GT6+
> Brian Schirano
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri May 24 06:56:15 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 12:56:15 +0000
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.  I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.  Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.  Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making?

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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Marcel, Brian;
I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.
Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
Hope this clears up any confusion.
Phil
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On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be<mailto:van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be> wrote:

So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
Marcel.
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Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Brian;
All perfectly normal.
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
Enjoy your new clutch!
Phil Gott
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On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hey Friends

just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.

Normal / Correct?

am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

Thanks
Brian

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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri May 24 07:47:37 2019
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 13:47:37 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Clutches
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While we are on the subject of clutches. I picked up a new to me used Quartermaster 7.25 single disc clutch setup on a Tilton flywheel for my Spitfire.  I haven't found any installation info on line for these. The face of the fingers of the pressure plate is about 3/8 forward compared to a stock setup so I'm guessing I will need to advance the throw out bearing accordingly to compensate. Anything special I need to know about using these?

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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 24 08:36:14 2019
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 14:36:14 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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 To physically test the action of the clutch, you can set them up on a flywheel sitting on a chassis scale pad, in a press, and measure the load as you pump it up.When it gets to the release point the pressure will be max and then drop off quickly as the plate overcenters.(You can slip a feeler gauge in there to tell the exact release point.)
The thickness of the disc directly affects the geometry that the PP has to work within by design.If the disc is too thin, there will be weak clamping force and it'll slip, and it will take a "long" pedal to release.If too thick, the release will be too high and it will probably slip under load.Generally if I use a thicker disc, I shim the difference between it and a stock disc, and check it in the press if any question.Glen
 
 
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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question  ? Marcel, Brian; I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible. Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP. Hope this clears up any confusion. Phil Sent from my iPhone 
On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote: 
 ? So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather. Marcel. Van:"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
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Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question  ? Brian; All perfectly normal. Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat. Enjoy your new clutch! Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone 
On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
Hey Friends  ? just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?  ? Normal / Correct??  ? am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please  ? Thanks Brian  ? 26A GT6+ Brian Schirano
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From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be  Fri May 24 08:48:40 2019
From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:48:40 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Strongest solution is when the area where the feet are located are a bit lower than the friction area of the flywheel : then the PP is strongly located and eventually the shims should be trimmed . When the flywheel is entirily flush, the location of the PP is less secure. 
If hard steel shims are used, I think this will not be a weak spot? 
Marcel. 

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Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] laycock clutch question 



I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate. I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers. Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix. Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making? 



Scott (B.) 




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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question 




Marcel, Brian; 


I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible. 


Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP. 


Hope this clears up any confusion. 


Phil 


Sent from my iPhone 



On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, [ mailto:van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be | van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be ] wrote: 








So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather. 


Marcel. 



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Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17 
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question 





Brian; 


All perfectly normal. 


Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat. 


Enjoy your new clutch! 


Phil Gott 


Sent from my iPhone 



On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: 

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Hey Friends 





just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right. 





Normal / Correct? 





am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please 





Thanks 


Brian 





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From johnstydo at gmail.com  Fri May 24 09:13:18 2019
From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 11:13:18 -0400
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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Most good flywheels have locating dowels for the PP as added shear
strength.

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 10:50 AM van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <
fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

>
> Strongest solution is when the area where the feet are located are a bit
> lower than the friction area of the flywheel : then the PP is strongly
> located and eventually the shims should be trimmed . When the flywheel is
> entirily flush, the location of the PP is less secure.
> If hard steel shims are used, I think this will not be a weak spot?
> Marcel.
> ------------------------------
> *Van: *"Scott Barr" <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
> *Aan: *"Phil Gott" <vfracing at aol.com>, "van mulders marcel" <
> van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be>, "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Verzonden: *Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 14:56:15
> *Onderwerp: *RE: [Fot] laycock clutch question
>
> I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.  I?ve
> done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.  Seemed to
> work fine, but that was a seat of the pants
> gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.  Anyone think
> that solution is a disaster in the making?
>
>
>
> Scott (B.)
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Phil Gott via Fot
> *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
> *To:* van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be
> *Cc:* fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
>
>
>
> Marcel, Brian;
>
> I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch
> disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are
> incompatible.
>
> Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
>
> Hope this clears up any confusion.
>
> Phil
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote:
>
>
>
> So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it
> still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not
> correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are
> moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not
> correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
>
> Marcel.
> ------------------------------
>
> *Van: *"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Aan: *"Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
> *Cc: *"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
> *Verzonden: *Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
> *Onderwerp: *Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
>
>
>
> Brian;
>
> All perfectly normal.
>
> Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.?
> If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If
> the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face
> should be flat.
>
> Enjoy your new clutch!
>
> Phil Gott
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hey Friends
>
>
>
> just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As
> I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer
> peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the
> clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me
> uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.
>
>
>
> Normal / Correct?
>
>
>
> am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> 26A GT6+
>
> Brian Schirano
> 585-305-0349 Cell
> BSchirano at yahoo.com
>
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 24 09:30:05 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:30:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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 The flywheel has to have locating dowels to maintain concentricity with the clutch housing.The dowels don't normally get any shear load on them, they aren't drive-dogs, the bolt clamping force holds it all in place and clamped down tight.Yes hard shims, soft can crush down and lose bolt torque after awhile.
If the PP loosens up, the locating dowels won't do much to keep it from coming apart...
Glen
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: John Styduhar via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: Van Mulders Marcel <van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 11:13 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Most good flywheels have locating dowels for the PP as added shear strength.? ??
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 10:50 AM van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Strongest solution is when the area where the feet are located are a bit lower than the friction area of the flywheel : then the PP is strongly located and eventually the shims should be trimmed . When the flywheel is entirily flush, the location of the PP is less secure.If hard steel shims are used, I think this will not be a weak spot?Marcel.Van: "Scott Barr" <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Aan: "Phil Gott" <vfracing at aol.com>, "van mulders marcel" <van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be>, "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 14:56:15
Onderwerp: RE: [Fot] laycock clutch question

I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.? I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.? Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.? Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making??Scott (B.)?From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
To: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question?Marcel, Brian;I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.Hope this clears up any confusion.PhilSent from my iPhone
On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote:
?So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.Marcel.Van:"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question?Brian;All perfectly normal.Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.Enjoy your new clutch!Phil GottSent from my iPhone
On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
Hey Friends?just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.??Normal / Correct???am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please?ThanksBrian?26A GT6+Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com

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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri May 24 09:42:57 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:42:57 +0000
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
In-Reply-To: <CAMJWJcFjH-VuxYcLdQ_CLfUBkyLUcMsoCArd2UtOUKHKyOC=Pw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1619858566.7033615.1558664596952.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I?m trying to think of a time when I was at this stage of putting the car back together and it HADN?T reached a ?moment of desperation?  :-)

With my Spit, I raced a pretty heavy schedule.  Running with both VSCDA and Midwestern Council, I could do 10-15 races a year back in the day.  So I was almost CONSTANTLY in thrash mode between April and November.  Which might explain some of my more interesting mechanical failures.

Scott (B.)

From: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 10:24 AM
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts.

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.  I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.  Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.  Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making?

Scott (B.)

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
To: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be<mailto:van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be>
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Marcel, Brian;
I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.
Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
Hope this clears up any confusion.
Phil
Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be<mailto:van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be> wrote:

So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
Marcel.
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Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

Brian;
All perfectly normal.
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
Enjoy your new clutch!
Phil Gott
Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
Hey Friends

just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.

Normal / Correct?

am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

Thanks
Brian

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From bschirano at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 10:02:07 2019
From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:02:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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not at the desperation point yet, but getting there! Laundry list is getting longer instead of shorter!
26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
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BSchirano at yahoo.com 

    On Friday, May 24, 2019, 11:43:07 AM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  
I?m trying to think of a time when I was at this stage of putting the car back together and it HADN?T reached a ?moment of desperation?? :-)
 
 ?
 
With my Spit, I raced a pretty heavy schedule.? Running with both VSCDA and Midwestern Council, I could do 10-15 races a year back in the day.? So I was almost CONSTANTLY in thrash mode between April and November.? Which might explain some of my more interesting mechanical failures.
 
 ?
 
Scott (B.)?
 
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From: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 10:24 AM
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
 
 ?
 
If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts.?
 
 ?
 
On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.? I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.? Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.? Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making?
 
?
 
Scott (B.)
 
?
 
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
To: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be
Cc: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
 
?
 
Marcel, Brian;
 
I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible.
 
Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP.
 
Hope this clears up any confusion.
 
Phil
 
Sent from my iPhone
 

On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote:
 

?
 
So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather.
 
Marcel.
 
Van:"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
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Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question
 
?
 
Brian;
 
All perfectly normal.
 
Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.
 
Enjoy your new clutch!
 
Phil Gott
 
Sent from my iPhone
 

On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

Hey Friends
 
?
 
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
 
?
 
Normal / Correct??
 
?
 
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please
 
?
 
Thanks
 
Brian
 
?
 
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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 10:51:22 2019
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Fri May 24 11:08:48 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 17:08:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question
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 If you're using a clutch PP from XXX, and a custom racing disc from YYY, those are the "correct" parts.If you're using a complete off-the-shelf clutch kit, there should be absolutely no adjustment/shimming required.Realize also that we're not "spacing" the PP out any distance, the most I've had to do is shim under .030, usually considerably less.The PP is just a big bellville washer that compresses axially with increasing pressure produced (clamping force) as it's compressed, up until the overcenter point, and the pivot points which determine the arm length ratio result in little travel in the plate (ie shimming it) and a lot on the TO bearing contact end.
In other words the shim required is usually pretty thin, it's almost a matter of fine-tuning a given combination, not to correct another problem...

Glen
If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts.?
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>; Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question

not at the desperation point yet, but getting there! Laundry list is getting longer instead of shorter!
26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com 

    On Friday, May 24, 2019, 11:43:07 AM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  I?m trying to think of a time when I was at this stage of putting the car back together and it HADN?T reached a ?moment of desperation?? :-)  ? With my Spit, I raced a pretty heavy schedule.? Running with both VSCDA and Midwestern Council, I could do 10-15 races a year back in the day.? So I was almost CONSTANTLY in thrash mode between April and November.? Which might explain some of my more interesting mechanical failures.  ? Scott (B.)?  ? From: John Styduhar <johnstydo at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 10:24 AM
To: Barr, Scott <sbarr at McCarty-Law.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question  ? If I was in a moment of desperation and that is all I had, I would consider using spacers under the PP, but I think it is better to get the correct parts.?  ? On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 8:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
I?m curious about Glen?s comment on shimming the pressure plate.? I?ve done that in this situation, using small thin hardened washers.? Seemed to work fine, but that was a seat of the pants gotta-load-this-thing-tomorrow-and-go-racing sort of fix.? Anyone think that solution is a disaster in the making? ? Scott (B.) ? From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:32 AM
To: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be
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Subject: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question ? Marcel, Brian; I agree with Marcel?s last email. If the fingers point inward, your clutch disc is too thick, indicating that the disc and Pressure Plate are incompatible. Best solution is to get a thinner disc or a compatible PP. Hope this clears up any confusion. Phil Sent from my iPhone 
On May 24, 2019, at 7:25 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote: 
? So we don't agree; maybe, if the fingers end up flat after tightening, it still can be normal, but if they are pointing inwards a bit, it is not correct. You can made a decision by measuring how much the fingers are moving inward when tightening the bolts : if it is more than 3 mm it is not correct and the feel in the clutch pedal won't be normal eather. Marcel. Van:"fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Aan: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano at yahoo.com>
Cc: "fot" <fot at autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Vrijdag 24 mei 2019 12:19:17
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] laycock clutch question ? Brian; All perfectly normal. Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat. Enjoy your new clutch! Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone 
On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote: 
Hey Friends ? just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.? ? Normal / Correct?? ? am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please ? Thanks Brian ? 26A GT6+ Brian Schirano
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BSchirano at yahoo.com 

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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Fri May 24 13:50:00 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
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Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
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Amici,

Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original Sabrina engines.

Would love to know the asking price...

Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.

A fun addition to any garage!


Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

From billdentin at aol.com  Fri May 24 14:37:08 2019
From: billdentin at aol.com (Bill Dentinger)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 20:37:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1462850231.7374676.1558730228949@mail.yahoo.com>

Amici...
I should say!!!? Maybe Chris will have some inside info for us at some point..
I was always interested those TRS cars (especially the unique TR3S cars).? One discovered in an Illinois garage got away.? I think that is the one The Roadster Factory has, and I think they paid around 15K way back then..
The Sabrinia engine was sexy, but notice it never made it into production.? There had to be a reason why it didn't.
Bill Dentinger

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 12:51 pm
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale

Amici,

Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original Sabrina engines.

Would love to know the asking price...

Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.

A fun addition to any garage!


Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Fri May 24 14:41:49 2019
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:41:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
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What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment Group,
sell 50 shares and buy one?  I volunteer to be the custodian of one of
them. I have the space and the skills.
Bob Kramer


On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:51 PM Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Amici,
>
> Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up
> for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original
> Sabrina engines.
>
> Would love to know the asking price...
>
> Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.
>
> A fun addition to any garage!
>
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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From bownes at web9.com  Fri May 24 14:56:25 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:56:25 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWvCOO+9wwxBsT1wj050UYR-_pwQaO51in+scCcGjYFvFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
 <CABFvdWvCOO+9wwxBsT1wj050UYR-_pwQaO51in+scCcGjYFvFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nORMByc9fSJ83v+6snJDGpQMaAfMNg1Y1WPbVa1JcZG2+A@mail.gmail.com>

Two classes of shares, one includes driving rights, one includes wrenching
and polishing? ;)

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 4:43 PM Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment Group,
> sell 50 shares and buy one?  I volunteer to be the custodian of one of
> them. I have the space and the skills.
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 2:51 PM Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Amici,
>>
>> Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up
>> for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original
>> Sabrina engines.
>>
>> Would love to know the asking price...
>>
>> Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.
>>
>> A fun addition to any garage!
>>
>>
>> Brad Eells
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> fot at autox.team.net
>>
>> http://www.fot-racing.com
>>
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From kaskastner at gmail.com  Fri May 24 14:57:14 2019
From: kaskastner at gmail.com (Kas Kastner)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 13:57:14 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <1462850231.7374676.1558730228949@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
 <1462850231.7374676.1558730228949@mail.yahoo.com>
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It was too big, too heavy, too complcicated, to expensive, other than those
things it was just right. Apparently no one noticed those items when the
specifications were being drawn up, nor noticed when the prototype was
built up.


On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 1:38 PM Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Amici...
>
> I should say!!!  Maybe Chris will have some inside info for us at some
> point..
>
> I was always interested those TRS cars (especially the unique TR3S cars).
> One discovered in an Illinois garage got away.  I think that is the one The
> Roadster Factory has, and I think they paid around 15K way back then..
>
> The Sabrinia engine was sexy, but notice it never made it into
> production.  There had to be a reason why it didn't.
>
> Bill Dentinger
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, May 24, 2019 12:51 pm
> Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
>
> Amici,
>
> Per a Roadster Factory Facebook post, the 2 German owned TRS cars are up
> for sale. Both are apparently in running condition with their original
> Sabrina engines.
>
> Would love to know the asking price...
>
> Contact The Roadster Factory directly for contact info if interested.
>
> A fun addition to any garage!
>
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
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From mdporter at dfn.com  Fri May 24 15:30:14 2019
From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 15:30:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <CAGiQU1AsDYxARZjw9+4yBLQKsNYBuRsC7gR+2UTc4i_P8uh98w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
 <1462850231.7374676.1558730228949@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAGiQU1AsDYxARZjw9+4yBLQKsNYBuRsC7gR+2UTc4i_P8uh98w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8c31fd41-35d4-08a5-610f-4ff29200f422@dfn.com>

On 5/24/2019 2:57 PM, Kas Kastner via Fot wrote:
> It was too big, too heavy, too complcicated, to expensive, other than 
> those things it was just right. Apparently no one noticed those items 
> when the specifications were being drawn up, nor noticed when the 
> prototype was built up.
>
And, IIRC, the real kiss of death was that the aluminum castings were 
one-offs, and the metal, during casting, apparently did not receive 
proper degassing.? The result was a limited set of porous castings that 
wept oil and coolant when at working temperature, and the problem 
couldn't be solved by substituting parts, because they all had the same 
fault.

This is a problem with any small run of parts that don't receive 
adequate attention from the foundry.? I recall one model of Ferrari 
twelve-cylinder heads that did the same thing.? The cheap fix today is 
to inject the casting with a loose epoxy slurry under pressure and 
refinish all the surfaces.? The expensive one is to reproduce the 
castings using better methods.


Cheers.

-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....




From mark at bradakis.com  Fri May 24 16:13:28 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 16:13:28 -0600
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
In-Reply-To: <CABFvdWvCOO+9wwxBsT1wj050UYR-_pwQaO51in+scCcGjYFvFg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
 <CABFvdWvCOO+9wwxBsT1wj050UYR-_pwQaO51in+scCcGjYFvFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fb128f84-ad92-3d20-51c9-a625bda6eac0@bradakis.com>

On 5/24/19 2:41 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:
> What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment 
> Group, sell 50 shares and buy one? I volunteer to be the custodian of 
> one of them. I have the space and the skills.
> Bob Kramer
>

Good idea!? I'll throw in ten bucks.? Then again, I just got a raise, 
I'll make it twenty!

mjb.




From bownes at web9.com  Fri May 24 17:06:13 2019
From: bownes at web9.com (robert bownes)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2019 19:06:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TRS Cars for Sale
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References: <023B600E-B181-4406-B131-05FF99C6AC9D@gmail.com>
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 <fb128f84-ad92-3d20-51c9-a625bda6eac0@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOSGfRNt+JDARRMFyWsFF95TNLJo1eFr=-xs2p-o5aqKyA@mail.gmail.com>

I think mjb qualifies for a stock grant from the corporation.

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 6:13 PM Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> On 5/24/19 2:41 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot wrote:
> > What do you say we put together an FOT consortium, a TRS Investment
> > Group, sell 50 shares and buy one? I volunteer to be the custodian of
> > one of them. I have the space and the skills.
> > Bob Kramer
> >
>
> Good idea!  I'll throw in ten bucks.  Then again, I just got a raise,
> I'll make it twenty!
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From bschirano at yahoo.com  Fri May 24 19:45:48 2019
From: bschirano at yahoo.com (Brian Schirano)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 01:45:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] laycock clutch question - 1st test passed
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Well, today 4 hrs in the garage with some help and the trans and drive shaft is in, Test fired briefly on the jack stands and clutch behavior seems OK.? In next few days I will drop it down and see how the clutch behaves with some load. But I have some other work still before it can be dropped. Will keep you posted
Thanks all
Brian
26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com 

    On Friday, May 24, 2019, 6:19:23 AM EDT, Phil Gott <vfracing at aol.com> wrote:  
 
 Brian;All perfectly normal.Just be sure that the throwout bearing is compatible with the ?fingers.? If the fingers are straight the throwout bearing face should be rounded. If the fingers have a crook in them (bent) then the throwout bearing face should be flat.Enjoy your new clutch!Phil Gott

Sent from my iPhone
On May 23, 2019, at 10:23 PM, Brian Schirano via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hey Friends
just installed a new to me (rebuilt) laycock PP and a new clutch disc. As I tightened the PP the fingers ended up pretty much flat across, no longer peaked. So when the hydraulics is engaged the throw out will press the clutch fingers deflecting inward (invert from when on the bench). Makes me uncomfortable / doesn't seem right.?
Normal / Correct??
am hoping to put the trans back in tomorrow afternoon, comments please

ThanksBrian
26A GT6+Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell?
BSchirano at yahoo.com


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From trmarty at hotmail.com  Fri May 24 20:38:03 2019
From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 02:38:03 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Throwout Bearing
Message-ID: <BYAPR12MB331842B655594BC668086C38BA030@BYAPR12MB3318.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

It looks like there are two different throw-out bearings for Spitfires. One for early, one for late. Anybody happen to know what the difference is?

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From fubog1 at aol.com  Sat May 25 05:47:04 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 11:47:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Throwout Bearing
References: <516992660.4753082.1558784824209.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 The early cars used a finger type PP, it takes a different release bearing than the later diaphragm type.Glen
 
 
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Subject: [Fot] Throwout Bearing

 #yiv7414435099 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}It looks like there are two different throw-out bearings for Spitfires. One for early, one for late. Anybody happen to know what the difference is?
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From kaskastner at gmail.com  Sat May 25 09:40:01 2019
From: kaskastner at gmail.com (Kas Kastner)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 08:40:01 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
Message-ID: <CAGiQU1B_4U1=EKM5JHr+M-534hezw-Of53ZKyEQNMxCxNteO+Q@mail.gmail.com>

I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team
Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had
been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he
was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and
terrific driver.

*Never be beaten by equipment.*
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From mikegranat9 at gmail.com  Sat May 25 10:05:54 2019
From: mikegranat9 at gmail.com (Mike Granat)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 09:05:54 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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This is heart-breaking news. He was an amazing driver, businessman, and
human being. I followed him around the various California tracks in the
60's in my old,  beat up '58 +4 Morgan, and proudly carry his number 45 on
the +4 I now race in SOVREN in the Northwest. He was a Gentleman, and a
gentle man. I am so sad, and so sorry. My sincerest condolences to his
family, the many great friends of whom Kas I know was the greatest, and to
all of those he inspired. He was a role model, and example of the highest
standard, and a Hero.

On Sat, May 25, 2019, 8:41 AM Kas Kastner via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team
> Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had
> been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he
> was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and
> terrific driver.
>
> *Never be beaten by equipment.*
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat May 25 11:36:13 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 13:36:13 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?  More Data but nothing obvious
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OK, I re-ran the comp and leakdown tests.  Replaced a gauge that was reading low on the leakdown tester, so I now trust the results. With the exception of #3, leakdown was almost all piston ring leak-by.  #3 had exhaust noise too.

1 - cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 195, prior cold comp 200
2 - cold leak 9%, hot leak 12%, hot comp 175, pcc 180
3 - cold leak 15%, hot leak 16%, hot comp 170, pcc 180
4- cold leak 3%, hot leak 3%, hot comp 195, pcc 195
5- cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 172, pcc 190
6 - cold leak 3%, hot leak 5%,  hot comp 170, pcc 185

The leakdown results look good to me and are probably valve related.  I?m used to seeing higher numbers on a season-old motor.
Compression - I don?t know if the drop on 5 and 6 is normal for cold to hot testing.  What would cause this relative to cylinders with almost no change?
Plugs - Kas asked about the plugs - When I pulled them the first time, the insulators were very light tan, almost white, with tan electrodes - plugs looked the way they usually look in this motor.  After warm-up, they got darker, but not surprising since it was mostly idle time and nothing under load.  No oil on the plugs.  No visible oil coming out the tailpipe, same color back there as usual.
BTW, my lap times on the last session were a second off the weekend best, but so were most of my competitors, so the engine still seems strong.

At this point, unless anyone has more suggestions short of tear-down I guess I?ll run it again as-is.  The oil venting points (two valve cover hoses) have not changed, so there was nothing that would have dumped more oil than usual.  I have no block vent, so nothing to blame there. 

I could have had a mind fart and run with the accusump valve closed (it?s manual) but when I pulled the car off the trailer there was oil and pressure in the accusump, so I must have shut it off full.  Thus, there should not have been excess oil in the pan.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 10:32 PM
> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
> 
> I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and
> lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
> After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
> Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing
> out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
> Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:
> 
> 1 - 200 and 2%
> 2- 180 and 6%
> 3 - 180 and 9%
> 4 - 195 and 0%
> 5 - 190 and 0%
> 6 - 185 and 0%
> 
> Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right,
> as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is
> slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.
> There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at
> idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
> EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored
> cylinders at top speed What do i have - failing rings?
> Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart
> would be appreciated.
> 
> Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
> TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
> GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke Spitfire -
> Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
> Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
> 
> Scott Janzen


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From paulricco at att.net  Sat May 25 12:26:51 2019
From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 13:26:51 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?  More Data but nothing obvious
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Scott,

When we first bought our car we chased a lot of breathing issues and oil being pushed in strange places.  I ended up fabricating a breather tank so and some custom take-offs to solve our issues.  It allowed me to breath the engine the way we wanted and put the tank where we wanted it.  It has taken a lot of pressure off of the engine seals.

If you do not have a crank breather, then it sounds like the oil has be coming from your valve cover to your catch tank.  Is that a correct assumption?

If so, I have 2 questions:

1.  Did the oil level raise much higher than normal under the valve cover?  Is it possible that something has restricted the oil?s ability to flow from the head back into to crankcase? 
2.  Is your catch tank located lower than the breather take-off?  If it is, then excess oil under the valve cover would have followed the path of lease resistance to your catch tank.

I only ask, because it sounds like for that much liquid to have ended up in the catch tank, the oil level had to have gotten high under the valve cover.

We have friends that run a team that supports about 8 cars.  They honestly admitted to oil level problems being cause by about six people ?checking and topping off the oil? before every session.  Pretty funny, that a pro team could have that kind of fun.  I do not think that is your issue.

My curiosity would be think through the flow of the oil, and why did it end up in the can.

If your only breather is at the valve cover, then there had to have been a lot of oil under there.  Why did it not follow the returns and flow back into the sump?

Paul Ricco 

> On May 25, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> OK, I re-ran the comp and leakdown tests.  Replaced a gauge that was reading low on the leakdown tester, so I now trust the results. With the exception of #3, leakdown was almost all piston ring leak-by.  #3 had exhaust noise too.
> 
> 1 - cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 195, prior cold comp 200
> 2 - cold leak 9%, hot leak 12%, hot comp 175, pcc 180
> 3 - cold leak 15%, hot leak 16%, hot comp 170, pcc 180
> 4- cold leak 3%, hot leak 3%, hot comp 195, pcc 195
> 5- cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 172, pcc 190
> 6 - cold leak 3%, hot leak 5%,  hot comp 170, pcc 185
> 
> The leakdown results look good to me and are probably valve related.  I?m used to seeing higher numbers on a season-old motor.
> Compression - I don?t know if the drop on 5 and 6 is normal for cold to hot testing.  What would cause this relative to cylinders with almost no change?
> Plugs - Kas asked about the plugs - When I pulled them the first time, the insulators were very light tan, almost white, with tan electrodes - plugs looked the way they usually look in this motor.  After warm-up, they got darker, but not surprising since it was mostly idle time and nothing under load.  No oil on the plugs.  No visible oil coming out the tailpipe, same color back there as usual.
> BTW, my lap times on the last session were a second off the weekend best, but so were most of my competitors, so the engine still seems strong.
> 
> At this point, unless anyone has more suggestions short of tear-down I guess I?ll run it again as-is.  The oil venting points (two valve cover hoses) have not changed, so there was nothing that would have dumped more oil than usual.  I have no block vent, so nothing to blame there. 
> 
> I could have had a mind fart and run with the accusump valve closed (it?s manual) but when I pulled the car off the trailer there was oil and pressure in the accusump, so I must have shut it off full.  Thus, there should not have been excess oil in the pan.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 10:32 PM
>> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
>> Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
>> 
>> I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and
>> lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
>> After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
>> Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing
>> out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
>> Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:
>> 
>> 1 - 200 and 2%
>> 2- 180 and 6%
>> 3 - 180 and 9%
>> 4 - 195 and 0%
>> 5 - 190 and 0%
>> 6 - 185 and 0%
>> 
>> Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right,
>> as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is
>> slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.
>> There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at
>> idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
>> EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored
>> cylinders at top speed What do i have - failing rings?
>> Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart
>> would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
>> TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
>> GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke Spitfire -
>> Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
>> Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
>> 
>> Scott Janzen
> 
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From sjanzen at me.com  Sat May 25 12:50:12 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 14:50:12 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?  More Data but nothing obvious
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Hi, Paul, good thoughts, but this is exactly the same breather and catch can configuration I?ve been running for the past six years, with no issues.
There was no oil leaking out around the valve cover gasket itself, though it was blowing out these breather holes and the pinhole in the top of the valve cover cap.
Return of oil to the crank - oil flows back from the head through all of the pushrod galleys.  I cannot see how they could possibly be obstructed.
You do bring up an interesting point - is there possibly substantially more flow to the rocker arm assembly all of a sudden?  The only way this could happen is if there were significant wear on the assembly that now allows a huge oil flow.

This was not a problem that was building all weekend.  I have the bonnet open after every race, have a meticulous engine compartment with a dry engine and clean surfaces - this was a sudden change from the last race saturday to after the only race sunday.

On May 25, 2019, at 2:26 PM, Paul Ricco <paulricco at att.net> wrote:

Scott,

When we first bought our car we chased a lot of breathing issues and oil being pushed in strange places.  I ended up fabricating a breather tank so and some custom take-offs to solve our issues.  It allowed me to breath the engine the way we wanted and put the tank where we wanted it.  It has taken a lot of pressure off of the engine seals.

If you do not have a crank breather, then it sounds like the oil has be coming from your valve cover to your catch tank.  Is that a correct assumption?

If so, I have 2 questions:

1.  Did the oil level raise much higher than normal under the valve cover?  Is it possible that something has restricted the oil?s ability to flow from the head back into to crankcase? 
2.  Is your catch tank located lower than the breather take-off?  If it is, then excess oil under the valve cover would have followed the path of lease resistance to your catch tank.

I only ask, because it sounds like for that much liquid to have ended up in the catch tank, the oil level had to have gotten high under the valve cover.

We have friends that run a team that supports about 8 cars.  They honestly admitted to oil level problems being cause by about six people ?checking and topping off the oil? before every session.  Pretty funny, that a pro team could have that kind of fun.  I do not think that is your issue.

My curiosity would be think through the flow of the oil, and why did it end up in the can.

If your only breather is at the valve cover, then there had to have been a lot of oil under there.  Why did it not follow the returns and flow back into the sump?

Paul Ricco 

> On May 25, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> 
> OK, I re-ran the comp and leakdown tests.  Replaced a gauge that was reading low on the leakdown tester, so I now trust the results. With the exception of #3, leakdown was almost all piston ring leak-by.  #3 had exhaust noise too.
> 
> 1 - cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 195, prior cold comp 200
> 2 - cold leak 9%, hot leak 12%, hot comp 175, pcc 180
> 3 - cold leak 15%, hot leak 16%, hot comp 170, pcc 180
> 4- cold leak 3%, hot leak 3%, hot comp 195, pcc 195
> 5- cold leak 4%, hot leak 4%, hot comp 172, pcc 190
> 6 - cold leak 3%, hot leak 5%,  hot comp 170, pcc 185
> 
> The leakdown results look good to me and are probably valve related.  I?m used to seeing higher numbers on a season-old motor.
> Compression - I don?t know if the drop on 5 and 6 is normal for cold to hot testing.  What would cause this relative to cylinders with almost no change?
> Plugs - Kas asked about the plugs - When I pulled them the first time, the insulators were very light tan, almost white, with tan electrodes - plugs looked the way they usually look in this motor.  After warm-up, they got darker, but not surprising since it was mostly idle time and nothing under load.  No oil on the plugs.  No visible oil coming out the tailpipe, same color back there as usual.
> BTW, my lap times on the last session were a second off the weekend best, but so were most of my competitors, so the engine still seems strong.
> 
> At this point, unless anyone has more suggestions short of tear-down I guess I?ll run it again as-is.  The oil venting points (two valve cover hoses) have not changed, so there was nothing that would have dumped more oil than usual.  I have no block vent, so nothing to blame there. 
> 
> I could have had a mind fart and run with the accusump valve closed (it?s manual) but when I pulled the car off the trailer there was oil and pressure in the accusump, so I must have shut it off full.  Thus, there should not have been excess oil in the pan.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Scott Janzen via Fot
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 10:32 PM
>> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>>
>> Subject: [Fot] Oil Blow-by Cause?
>> 
>> I just had a great weekend at Summit Point, perfect weather, four days and
>> lots of track time, some quick laps and good racing.
>> After my last session, I noticed some dripping oil as I put the car in the trailer.
>> Got it home to find a half full catch can (1 pint?), and evidence of oil blowing
>> out of the valve cover cap vent hole.
>> Tonight I ran a compression test and leakdown test.  Cold engine results:
>> 
>> 1 - 200 and 2%
>> 2- 180 and 6%
>> 3 - 180 and 9%
>> 4 - 195 and 0%
>> 5 - 190 and 0%
>> 6 - 185 and 0%
>> 
>> Note - I suspect my longacre leakdown gauge may not be reading quite right,
>> as when i have the air side set to 100, the leakdown % on the last three is
>> slightly below zero.  So, perhaps the leakdown on the first three is higher.
>> There was no excess oil until the last session.  Oil pressure is about 50 hot at
>> idle and 65 - 75 at speed, depending on RPM.
>> EGT readings remained in the 1200 - 1250 range across three monitored
>> cylinders at top speed What do i have - failing rings?
>> Any diagnosis or tests you recommend before I start pulling the thing apart
>> would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Triumphs racing - I?m sure I?m missing a few but this is who I remember.
>> TR3 - John Hasty, Henry Frye, John Styduhar
>> GT6 - me, Paul King, Jason Sukey, Jay De Pol until his diff case broke Spitfire -
>> Russ Moore, Marty Sukey, Jeff Govert, Kent Bain, others
>> Tr4 - Mark Wheatley, Allen Goode, I?m missing at least another one
>> 
>> Scott Janzen
> 
> 
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From rjl at gt-classics.com  Sat May 25 18:36:56 2019
From: rjl at gt-classics.com (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 20:36:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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I am very sorry for your loss, and that of his family.&nbsp; Alzheimer's is a horrible
disease.

John
&nbsp;



On Sat, 25 May 2019 08:40:01 -0700, Kas Kastner via Fot  wrote:
&nbsp;
I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and terrific driver.



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From gasket.works at gte.net  Sat May 25 20:25:31 2019
From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 02:25:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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I bet you boys?had some?marvelous?moments on the track together. ?

MDunstHeadgasket.com626.358.1616?Fax?626.628.3777?Triple R Munitions, Inc626.201.9471?TFFL 6,7 SOT 2
 On?Saturday, May 25, 2019,?Kas Kastner via Fot?<fot at autox.team.net>?wrote:

I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and terrific driver.
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From triumphherald24 at yahoo.com  Sun May 26 14:37:19 2019
From: triumphherald24 at yahoo.com (Jerry Barker)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 20:37:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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A great driver that I got to grow up around and learn from. Jerry Barker?

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Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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From kkjjk at aol.com  Sun May 26 17:34:30 2019
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 26 May 2019 23:34:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Some very sad news
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 Thanks for letting us know, Kas.? Losing a best friend is really tough, as I lost mine about seven years ago. My condolences to you as well as his family......-- Jay
 
 
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I want to inform racers that my best friend, the great Morgan and Team Cobra driver, Lew Spencer, died on Monday the 20th of this month. Lew had been going slowly down in his fight with Alzheimer's and tough guy that he was he finally lost that battle this week. Wish him well, a fine man and terrific driver.Never be beaten by equipment._______________________________________________
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Mon May 27 11:30:26 2019
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 19:30:26 +0200
Subject: [Fot] Brands Hatch - TR8 IMSA GTO
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Hi Guys,

after 42 years the IMSA car has returned to England, its country of production. We faced a strong grid with fast cars and good drivers. The track is very difficult but great fun to drive, with a lot of suspense to the driver as the run of zones are small.

Race1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Mm6szBmos

Race 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIGM5HOPokw

 

Cheers

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From kkjjk at aol.com  Mon May 27 14:49:45 2019
From: kkjjk at aol.com (kkjjk at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 20:49:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] GT6 Diff
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Hello all-? I am looking for a recommendation for a good differential rebuilder, as I broke a tooth off the pinion gear on my GT6 at Summit Point last weekend on the first practice session.? I didn't know what happened at the time, but the tooth cracked the case on it's way out!? I have another diff that will be coming out of a Spitfire, but I want to install a Quaife limited slip unit in it.? Does anyone know of a good builder whom can do this and rebuild the unit entirely and PROPERLY?? I know of Quantum Mechanics in CT, but have not had good results with that outfit of late.? I am on the East Coast and would prefer to use someone here if possible, but I am open to shipping the diffs wherever if necessary.? Any help is appreciated!? Thanks!? Hope everyone is having a nice Memorial Day.-- Jay De Pol
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From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Tue May 28 09:50:13 2019
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 15:50:13 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Buying a Spitfire
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Looking for a little help.

My brother-in-law is looking at a 76 Spitfire, he has never owned a British car, but wants a project to work on together and learn with his son who is into cars.

I told him the usual maintenance, etc. story. But I don't know much about Spitfires.

Looked over the car quickly yesterday, body is in good shape, no visible rust except battery box. Interior is old but decent. Will need brake job (really spongy) and rebuild front suspension.

Leaking oil at rear of head gasket (not valve cover) so a replacement will be needed.

Seller is asking $5500.

Is this a decent price (not adjusted for above items)?
Is this a good or bad year to buy?


Thanks, Mike

62 TR4, Race car
63 TR4, Street car

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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 11:34:01 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 17:34:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.? Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.? Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?? I don't even know where I got it.? I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.? I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.? Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
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From fubog1 at aol.com  Tue May 28 11:40:05 2019
From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 17:40:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Buying a Spitfire
References: <770113620.169391.1559065205491.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Just a few things to check-Make sure "no rust" means no rust, any structural rust will be a $$$ job to repair, and yes the tub does provide some rigidity to the structure.Plan on full hydraulic rebuild.Check U-joints, rear axles, hubs.Drive if possible to see if the rear gear R&P whines or if diff gears have lash.Driveline vibrations?
Engine main bearings are prone to failure.Check crank end float.Compression check.Check gearbox for smooth shifts up and down and no excessive whine low & reverse.If the oil leak is directly @ L/H rear, coming from the head gasket, it's likely weeping from the oil feed hole to the top.The rest is pretty much basic car, and any old Spitfire is likely gonna be a project, so in that sense it sounds perfect.Re value, it would have to be a good solid running Spit for that $$, but that's totally subjective.I've long told folks who are getting into Brit sports cars, to try a Spit of Sprite/Midget first, to get a taste of it, and if one can deal with maintenance etc on one of them it's time to step up into a real sports car, a B or big TR, etc.(not to piss off any Spitfire owners...)
HTH.Glen
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Moore via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, May 28, 2019 12:16 pm
Subject: [Fot] Buying a Spitfire

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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 13:04:33 2019
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (Jamie Palmer)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:04:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
Jamie
    On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.? Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.? Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?? I don't even know where I got it.? I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.? I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.? Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Jack
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 14:50:25 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 20:50:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <25062409.673410.1559070273991@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 Thanks Jamie.? I have a 1971 MGB that came with the original jack, and it is different.? It has a rod that extends horizontally from the jack and slides into a tube under the side of the car.? It lifts one side of the car.? Could they have used a different jack in different years, either earlier or later than mine?
Not sure about Austin Marina, I've never owned one of those and I'm not sure where I would have picked up a jack for one.? Anyone else have any suggestions?
Regards,
Jack

    On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 3:04:36 PM EDT, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:  
 
  Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
Jamie
    On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.? Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.? Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?? I don't even know where I got it.? I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.? I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.? Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
Jack
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Tue May 28 15:28:14 2019
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 16:28:14 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <822366750.7145357.1559076625592@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321@mail.yahoo.com>
 <25062409.673410.1559070273991@mail.yahoo.com>
 <822366750.7145357.1559076625592@mail.yahoo.com>
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Look up the PN in Google pictures. Says something about later e-types,
Austin Morris I believe.

Bob Kramer


On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:50 PM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks Jamie.  I have a 1971 MGB that came with the original jack, and it
> is different.  It has a rod that extends horizontally from the jack and
> slides into a tube under the side of the car.  It lifts one side of the
> car.  Could they have used a different jack in different years, either
> earlier or later than mine?
>
> Not sure about Austin Marina, I've never owned one of those and I'm not
> sure where I would have picked up a jack for one.  Anyone else have any
> suggestions?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jack
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 3:04:36 PM EDT, Jamie Palmer <
> tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
>
> Jamie
>
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <
> fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had
> taking up space for many years.  Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.
> Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?  I don't even know
> where I got it.  I have owned all of the British marques over the years and
> I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.  I'm most familiar
> with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.  Could be MG, Jag,
> Healy, or other.
>
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
>
> Jack
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From bownes at seiri.com  Tue May 28 15:37:56 2019
From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 17:37:56 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Squaretail Spit trunk lid
Message-ID: <CAJ1+nOROQTcGtbCZVAftJU6g3iMCQ4kYVEQeHked1p+9=V6sFw@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone need one? I tripped over one in my garage over the weekend. Not
really sure why I have it, but I don't need it. Stripped, prepped, ready to
paint. In great shape.

Located outside Albany NY.

Still looking for someone to take my GT6 too. :(

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From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com  Tue May 28 16:24:44 2019
From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 18:24:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
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References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321@mail.yahoo.com>
 <25062409.673410.1559070273991@mail.yahoo.com>
 <822366750.7145357.1559076625592@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CABFvdWt__=DNqh8hK2E6LULzExRuUDLZfRHdHxH98OU-+MnPmg@mail.gmail.com>
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Definitely not for a Morgan.
Duncan

> On May 28, 2019, at 5:28 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Look up the PN in Google pictures. Says something about later e-types, Austin Morris I believe.
> 
> Bob Kramer
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:50 PM Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> Thanks Jamie.  I have a 1971 MGB that came with the original jack, and it is different.  It has a rod that extends horizontally from the jack and slides into a tube under the side of the car.  It lifts one side of the car.  Could they have used a different jack in different years, either earlier or later than mine?
> 
> Not sure about Austin Marina, I've never owned one of those and I'm not sure where I would have picked up a jack for one.  Anyone else have any suggestions?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jack
> 
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 3:04:36 PM EDT, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com <mailto:tr6driver at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
> 
> Jamie
> 
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net <mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.  Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.  Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?  I don't even know where I got it.  I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.  I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.  Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
> 
> Jack
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From tr6driver at yahoo.com  Tue May 28 17:47:14 2019
From: tr6driver at yahoo.com (James Palmer)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:47:14 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Help with identification
In-Reply-To: <822366750.7145357.1559076625592@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1093294336.7036606.1559064842321.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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It looks just like my 1975 Marina jack, color included.  Perhaps fits other stuff too though!

Jamie Palmer

> On May 28, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jamie.  I have a 1971 MGB that came with the original jack, and it is different.  It has a rod that extends horizontally from the jack and slides into a tube under the side of the car.  It lifts one side of the car.  Could they have used a different jack in different years, either earlier or later than mine?
> 
> Not sure about Austin Marina, I've never owned one of those and I'm not sure where I would have picked up a jack for one.  Anyone else have any suggestions?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jack
> 
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 3:04:36 PM EDT, Jamie Palmer <tr6driver at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Pretty sure that is MGB or Austin Marina...
> 
> Jamie
> 
> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 2:08:00 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm cleaning out my garage and trying to get rid of things that I have had taking up space for many years.  Attached are pictures of a scissors jack.  Can anyone help me identify what car this jack is for?  I don't even know where I got it.  I have owned all of the British marques over the years and I'm pretty sure it goes to one of them, but which one.  I'm most familiar with Triumphs, and I know it is not for a Triumph.  Could be MG, Jag, Healy, or other.
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
> 
> Jack
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From mark at bradakis.com  Tue May 28 19:18:42 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 19:18:42 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Squaretail Spit trunk lid
In-Reply-To: <CAJ1+nOROQTcGtbCZVAftJU6g3iMCQ4kYVEQeHked1p+9=V6sFw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <0d7ae063-0a2f-de9c-97dd-4e10fdee808f@bradakis.com>

On 5/28/19 3:37 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote:
>
>
> Still looking for someone to take my GT6 too. :(
>

Trailer it to my house, I'll help you unload it.

mjb.




From mark at bradakis.com  Tue May 28 22:27:44 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 28 May 2019 22:27:44 -0600
Subject: [Fot] The journey of a thousand miles...
Message-ID: <6f4d2da9-1df7-dbe8-06bd-b06f124cd877@bradakis.com>

Was a nice day here in Salt Lake, actually spent a few minutes out in 
the garage.? What a mess.? Going to take some work to get it to where I 
can actually work on cars again. Still think I should be able to at 
least get the Killer Spit to a late season autocross or two this year.

Downloaded the Pegasus catalog for perusal at my convenience. Gee, 
prices have changed a bit since I last bought a helmet and fireproof 
underwear.? Any other suppliers I should be checking out these days?

mjb.


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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed May 29 18:54:49 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 18:54:49 -0600
Subject: [Fot] A proud member of ???
Message-ID: <308386ae-b58c-693c-ac09-708fc4fe7f18@bradakis.com>

SO in furtherance of getting Killer back on track, I should probably 
join up with some vintage racing group.? RMVR in Colorado seems like my 
best bet, based on proximity.? Was a member many years ago, back in the 
day of the street races in Avon and Steamboat.? Would VARA be worth my 
trouble?? Any others?

There used to a group here in Utah, Intermountain Vintage Racing.? It 
was a rather hodge podge of a few random folks, did some hill climbs and 
ran "road" races out at the old Wendover airport.? The "track" was 
basically a mile long autocross, cone lined run around the worst of the 
broken concrete and potholes of the old airfield.? The fellow who ran it 
back then got tired of the amount of energy, time and money it was 
costing him to keep it alive, and kind of burned out on racing and 
sports cars altogether.? At least there's a real race track in the area 
now, but as far as I know no one else has stepped up to revive or 
replace IVR in Utah.? Too bad.

mjb.




From mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com  Thu May 30 06:12:40 2019
From: mmoore at mtmcpafirm.com (Michael Moore)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 12:12:40 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Buying a Spitfire
Message-ID: <BL0PR04MB45777F059126EAEA1DF662BDB4180@BL0PR04MB4577.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks for everyone's input. He is going to pass on this one.

Thanks
Mike

Michael T. Moore, CPA
3255 West 26th Street
Erie, PA 16506
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From spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com  Thu May 30 07:18:27 2019
From: spitfire_racing at twcny.rr.com (Spitfire Racing)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 09:18:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] MOSPORT ehh!
Message-ID: <001d01d516ea$2cc1e2c0$8645a840$@rr.com>

One of the highlights of the vintage racing scene in the Northeast in June
is the VARAC event at Mosport (now officially called Canadian Tire
Motorsport Park)in  Bowmanville, Ontario. Those that have never been there
should experience it at least once. Currently there is a $100 discount until
June 1st. Realize also with the exchange rate, this is a very reasonably
priced event. Crossing into Canada is easy and camping is free with plenty
of paddock space. It?s an experience to not be missed. Our hosts provide
entertainment and a roaming dinner on Friday night, usually consisting of a
number of types of wings; subs; beverages and deserts. and also there is a
banquet on Saturday night. 

 

A number of Triumph folks are regulars at this event.

I will be doing tech again this year and can answer any questions.  

 

To coin an old clich?, ?Try it you?ll like it!?

 

The Triumph and MGs will be in the paddock area at the exit from the false
grid.

Can I get a head count? Once again there is a Triumph/MG Challenge with the
awarding of the Group 44 Inc Trophy.

 

Russ Moore

Spitfire #49

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 30 07:35:24 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 08:35:24 -0500
Subject: [Fot] MOSPORT ehh!
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One of the best.

Great memories.

Our first Kastner Cup.

I hope that Sean, Mark, and Brendan can experience this track some day.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 30, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Spitfire Racing via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> One of the highlights of the vintage racing scene in the Northeast in June is the VARAC event at Mosport (now officially called Canadian Tire Motorsport Park)in  Bowmanville, Ontario. Those that have never been there should experience it at least once. Currently there is a $100 discount until June 1st. Realize also with the exchange rate, this is a very reasonably priced event. Crossing into Canada is easy and camping is free with plenty of paddock space. It?s an experience to not be missed. Our hosts provide entertainment and a roaming dinner on Friday night, usually consisting of a number of types of wings; subs; beverages and deserts. and also there is a banquet on Saturday night.
>  
> A number of Triumph folks are regulars at this event.
> I will be doing tech again this year and can answer any questions.  
>  
> To coin an old clich?, ?Try it you?ll like it!?
>  
> The Triumph and MGs will be in the paddock area at the exit from the false grid.
> Can I get a head count? Once again there is a Triumph/MG Challenge with the awarding of the Group 44 Inc Trophy.
>  
> Russ Moore
> Spitfire #49
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu May 30 08:37:44 2019
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 10:37:44 -0400
Subject: [Fot] MOSPORT ehh!
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Then there is the 170 minutes of track time on the schedule. Just shy of 
3 hours on Mosport, the track that so many racing greats have called 
their favorite.

It's a fantastic event put on by a very well run organization at an epic 
track. Anybody within towing distance should consider it. I'll see you 
there, Russ!



On 2019-05-30 09:18, Russ Moore via Fot wrote:
> One of the highlights of the vintage racing scene in the Northeast in
> June is the VARAC event at Mosport (now officially called Canadian
> Tire Motorsport Park)in  Bowmanville, Ontario. Those that have never
> been there should experience it at least once. Currently there is a
> $100 discount until June 1st. Realize also with the exchange rate,
> this is a very reasonably priced event. Crossing into Canada is easy
> and camping is free with plenty of paddock space. It's an experience
> to not be missed. Our hosts provide entertainment and a roaming dinner
> on Friday night, usually consisting of a number of types of wings;
> subs; beverages and deserts. and also there is a banquet on Saturday
> night.


From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Thu May 30 09:18:09 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 15:18:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] MGB for sale
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  I know this is not a Triumph, but I'm also sure many folks, like myself, have owned both Triumphs and MG's.? I have no interest in this, except helping a very nice woman sell a car that her father bought when it was nearly new.
  Below is some information about a 1975 MGB that is for sale.? I've known this car for many years.? It was owned by a guy who lived next door to my parents in Corning, NY, and died way to young.? His daughter took over the car and has had a lot of work done on it, since she has had it.? She is now wanting to sell it, and has asked me to forward the information to people who might be interested, or know someone who might be interested, in buying it.? If you have questions, or want more information, please contact her directly at koconnor673 at hotmail.com.? Her name is Kimberly Oconnor.? I can confirm that the car is very straight and solid, and has been well taken care of, although it has been a number of years since I have seen it.? She is asking $10K, but the price is negotiable.? Thanks.
Jack Wheeler
Kimberly says:

   Would love if you knew anyone looking. ?It's been well taken care of and want to see it go to a good home.?

1975 MG B Convertible??
    
   - One Family has owned for last 44 years (Husband & Wife and now their Daughter)
   - 53, 799 miles
   - British Racing Green (was originally Harvest Gold ? repainted in ?96)
   - Original Top & Interior
   - 1996 engine rebuilt
   - 1996 body work completed (new front fenders & back rocker panels replaced)
   - 2016 Engine refresh
   - 2016 Evans waterless coolant put in
   - 2016 Stromberg Carb rebuild
   - 2016 New Battery
   - 2016 New Brakes
   - 2016 New Stereo
   - Has a Nylon cover
   - Has MG embossed floor mats
   - Original spare tire
   - Needs a good home
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From info at dieselperformanceparts.com  Thu May 30 10:30:00 2019
From: info at dieselperformanceparts.com (DPPI - Mark Craig)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 16:30:00 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
Message-ID: <d1668d4fa288489bb666bb3e71f960b3@dieselperformanceparts.com>

Membership,

Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??

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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 30 10:38:15 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 11:38:15 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
In-Reply-To: <d1668d4fa288489bb666bb3e71f960b3@dieselperformanceparts.com>
References: <d1668d4fa288489bb666bb3e71f960b3@dieselperformanceparts.com>
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Mark, FOT, 

We have REAR ALUMINUM PLATES for both Spitfire and TR6.

They are not the same.

While I am at it, we will discount these to interested FOT.

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 30, 2019, at 11:30 AM, DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Membership,
>  
> Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??
>  
> <image001.png>
>  
> MARK CRAIG
> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc.
> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211
> www.dieselperformanceparts.com
> <image002.jpg> <image003.jpg> <image004.jpg> <image005.jpg>
>  
>  
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> Fax: 615-834-9923
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu May 30 12:16:24 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 18:16:24 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
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Will a TR6 rear plate bolt up to a Spitfire block?

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via Fot
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:38 AM
To: DPPI - Mark Craig <info at dieselperformanceparts.com>
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Bellhousing info

Mark, FOT,

We have REAR ALUMINUM PLATES for both Spitfire and TR6.

They are not the same.

While I am at it, we will discount these to interested FOT.

Regards,
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4505 Donald Dr
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Membership,

Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??

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From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com  Thu May 30 12:20:42 2019
From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 13:20:42 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
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Message-ID: <B89257C2-1D29-4836-AAFE-F4AA805196F9@yahoo.com>

Spit starter is on the drivers side and so easy to get to, TR6 is on the passenger side under the @$*% carbs and exhaust manifold, which is probably okay with a stock set up but quite difficult to get to with triple webers and a header.

Dusty 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 11:30 AM, DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Membership,
>  
> Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??
>  
> <image001.png>
>  
> MARK CRAIG
> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc.
> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211
> www.dieselperformanceparts.com
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Thu May 30 13:17:00 2019
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 15:17:00 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
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References: <d1668d4fa288489bb666bb3e71f960b3@dieselperformanceparts.com>
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Yes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Will a TR6 rear plate bolt up to a Spitfire block?
>  
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via Fot
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:38 AM
> To: DPPI - Mark Craig <info at dieselperformanceparts.com>
> Cc: fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Bellhousing info
>  
> Mark, FOT, 
>  
> We have REAR ALUMINUM PLATES for both Spitfire and TR6.
>  
> They are not the same.
>  
> While I am at it, we will discount these to interested FOT.
>  
> Regards,
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
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> Cell:  319.464.4711
>  
> 
> On May 30, 2019, at 11:30 AM, DPPI - Mark Craig via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Membership,
>  
> Need some tech help. Planning a transmission swap in a racing Spit. Can anyone tell me if the engine to bellhousing bolt pattern and starter locations on a TR4 thru a TR6 are the same as a Spit??
>  
> <image001.png>
>  
> MARK CRAIG
> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc.
> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Thu May 30 13:31:06 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 12:31:06 -0700
Subject: [Fot] FOT Nomination - Jonathan Wright
Message-ID: <CACZdCPX7-nB=9cqcrGMEjuvv4h1wWcGekRWSXGDrKzn3gqA9hw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Amici,

I would like to nominate Jonathan Wright to our esteemed group. Today he
has purchased the #93 Black Spitfire out of the Joe Siam stable. He will be
running with VARA as soon as he has the car in shape...it's been stabled
for a while...

Jonathan also has a Spitfire Mk2 for the street that is just coming through
a restoration.

He must be serious...he bought his fire suit before he bought the car!

Do I have a second for Jonathan?

His Email address is: Jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com

Cheers,


*Brad Eells*
*Chino CA*
*#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3*
*#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4*
*1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!*
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Thu May 30 13:36:04 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 14:36:04 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
Message-ID: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>

Wow! I didn?t realize that.

We have aluminum rear engine plates and will look at FOT discount.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 30, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Chuck Gee <chasgee22 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 30, 2019, at 2:16 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrot=
> e:
>> =20
>> Will a TR6 rear plate bolt up to a Spitfire block?
>> =20
>> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Joe Alexander via Fot
>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 11:38 AM
>> To: DPPI - Mark Craig <info at dieselperformanceparts.com>
>> Cc: fot at autox.team.net
>> Su


From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Thu May 30 13:40:45 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 19:40:45 +0000
Subject: [Fot] FOT Nomination - Jonathan Wright
In-Reply-To: <CACZdCPX7-nB=9cqcrGMEjuvv4h1wWcGekRWSXGDrKzn3gqA9hw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACZdCPX7-nB=9cqcrGMEjuvv4h1wWcGekRWSXGDrKzn3gqA9hw@mail.gmail.com>
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Second!

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Brad Eells via Fot
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 2:31 PM
To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Cc: Jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com
Subject: [Fot] FOT Nomination - Jonathan Wright

Hello Amici,

I would like to nominate Jonathan Wright to our esteemed group. Today he has purchased the #93 Black Spitfire out of the Joe Siam stable. He will be running with VARA as soon as he has the car in shape...it's been stabled for a while...

Jonathan also has a Spitfire Mk2 for the street that is just coming through a restoration.

He must be serious...he bought his fire suit before he bought the car!

Do I have a second for Jonathan?

His Email address is: Jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com<mailto:Jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com>

Cheers,


Brad Eells
Chino CA
#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3
#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4
1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!
[https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1HyYLxa1_Lz_Q0kLM3GRJryNDgfOwZyUc&revid=0B9vVTDWaFCqFVmR6Q1FsMExZTHVLcHpja3BpSC9ucGcveHdJPQ]

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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu May 30 17:27:18 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 17:27:18 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
In-Reply-To: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
References: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0be447d0-4bc8-26c8-a58d-cd85b07f9256@bradakis.com>

I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 
block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.

mjb.




From mark at bradakis.com  Thu May 30 17:34:14 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 17:34:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Nomination
Message-ID: <d0bf1c3b-4ef9-4256-3ef5-387983b2949f@bradakis.com>

I certainly would have seconded, had others not already done so. 
Jonathon used to live in Utah, he's been to my place before. Welcome to 
the list!

And speaking of racing Spitfires, I will be checking out this group that 
races here in Utah.? Porbably not an ideal group for a Spitfire, but it 
could get me some track time, one way or another.

http://www.nasautah.com

Turns out it is currently being run by some of my old autocross 
buddies.? We'll see how it goes.

mjb.




From jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com  Thu May 30 19:29:08 2019
From: jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com (Jonathan Wright)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 18:29:08 -0700
Subject: [Fot] New guy! Introduction.
Message-ID: <EAB3E58B-958F-4934-994A-D5C73699A037@gmail.com>

Hello all,
I appreciate the warm welcome. I have been a British car fan for about 12 years now. Having had MGBs a Rover Mini, and a few spitfires. The goal has always been to do vintage road racing. I went to the British Extravaganza at buttonwillow this year to photograph the event and meet Brad Ellis in person (we have been Facebook friends for a bit). I knew I had to start road racing. I couldn?t wait any longer. As Mark said, he helped me with my first spitfire about ten years ago, he gave me a little tour of killer spit and reminisced about the glory days of autocross, he also sold me a very nice boot lid for my 73. I just purchased Joe Siam?s black spitfire that had been used as a rental racecar for many years. If any of you have any experience with that specific car, 93 fp, I would love to collect your stories! 
I look forward to getting to know you all and hope to see some of you at the track! 
Jonathan Wright
Here is the car in all of its dusty glory,
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Thu May 30 21:09:13 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Thu, 30 May 2019 20:09:13 -0700
Subject: [Fot] New guy! Introduction.
In-Reply-To: <EAB3E58B-958F-4934-994A-D5C73699A037@gmail.com>
References: <EAB3E58B-958F-4934-994A-D5C73699A037@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6AE31DCD-ECF5-48F1-9DC1-8BF816BCAF9D@gmail.com>

Welcome aboard Jonathan! Good to have more west coat Spitfire racers...we?ll talk about initiation later...

I?m not the new guy anymore!

Cheers,


Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2019, at 6:29 PM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I appreciate the warm welcome. I have been a British car fan for about 12 years now. Having had MGBs a Rover Mini, and a few spitfires. The goal has always been to do vintage road racing. I went to the British Extravaganza at buttonwillow this year to photograph the event and meet Brad Ellis in person (we have been Facebook friends for a bit). I knew I had to start road racing. I couldn?t wait any longer. As Mark said, he helped me with my first spitfire about ten years ago, he gave me a little tour of killer spit and reminisced about the glory days of autocross, he also sold me a very nice boot lid for my 73. I just purchased Joe Siam?s black spitfire that had been used as a rental racecar for many years. If any of you have any experience with that specific car, 93 fp, I would love to collect your stories! 
> I look forward to getting to know you all and hope to see some of you at the track! 
> Jonathan Wright
> Here is the car in all of its dusty glory,
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> <image2.jpeg>
> 
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From britracer89 at yahoo.com  Fri May 31 03:25:55 2019
From: britracer89 at yahoo.com (Brian Dennis)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 09:25:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
In-Reply-To: <0be447d0-4bc8-26c8-a58d-cd85b07f9256@bradakis.com>
References: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
 <0be447d0-4bc8-26c8-a58d-cd85b07f9256@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <375991481.8636793.1559294755373@mail.yahoo.com>

The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the above. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least all that I have seen.?
Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is on the left side vs the tr6 & gt6 are on the right. Therefore the six cylinder engine plate will not work on the four cylinder motor. Between the early and late four cylinder engine plates they will all bolt on however I believe the later plates have an extra bolt hole or two vs the early 4 cylinder.?

This is all from memory. Hope it is helpful.Brian


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 7:27 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 
block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.

mjb.


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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 31 05:16:31 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 06:16:31 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
In-Reply-To: <375991481.8636793.1559294755373@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
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 <375991481.8636793.1559294755373@mail.yahoo.com>
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The TR6 and the GT6 plates are not the same....at least not as we manufacture them in Iowa. We have two part numbers.

I was unaware that the TR6 plate would bolt onto the later Spitfires.

Perhaps some can summarize the potential interchanges?

In the mean time, I had inquiries for a FOT Prices. Good for a week.  Here?s your chance. We?ve sold a few plates for Conversions, but didn?t realize there was that much interest.

GT6.  Rear Plate.  $75 plus shipping
TR6.  Rear Plate.   $75 plus shipping
Spit.   Rear Plate.  $65 plus shipping

TR3.  Front Plate.  $125 plus shipping
TR4.  Front Plate.  $125 plus shipping
Morgan                      $115 plus shipping 
TR6/GT6.                  $ 60 plus shipping

Big Discount. And all in stock.

Thanks,



Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 31, 2019, at 4:25 AM, Brian Dennis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the above. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least all that I have seen. 
> 
> Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is on the left side vs the tr6 & gt6 are on the right. Therefore the six cylinder engine plate will not work on the four cylinder motor. Between the early and late four cylinder engine plates they will all bolt on however I believe the later plates have an extra bolt hole or two vs the early 4 cylinder. 
> 
> This is all from memory. Hope it is helpful.
> Brian
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 7:27 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 
> block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.
> 
> mjb.
> 
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From sjanzen at me.com  Fri May 31 06:14:03 2019
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 08:14:03 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Bellhousing info
In-Reply-To: <375991481.8636793.1559294755373@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <A6F65EC4-84AE-45E7-9E26-E901139D7CEC@gmail.com>
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 <375991481.8636793.1559294755373@mail.yahoo.com>
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I have a TR6 box in my GT6.  The only difference between the gearboxes is two extra flange bolts on the Tr6 bellhousing, for which holes can easily be drilled on the plate.  the rear of the engine block is identical and the  plate bolts right up as the blocks are essentially the same (a bit more block stiffening in sides of the later TR6 blocks, I think).  Starter lines right up on the same flywheel.
Can?t speak for Spitfire.

On May 31, 2019, at 5:25 AM, Brian Dennis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

The tr6, gt6 and Spitfire rear engine plates will bolt onto any of the above. They are NOT however a direct interchange. When I was installing the tr6 box into the gt6 motor there was a bolt or pin hole missing on the factory plate. I ended up using the tr6 alloy plate on the gt6 motor with the tr6 box. The aftermarket alloy plates for tr6 and gt6 are the same. At least all that I have seen. 

Regarding the Spitfire: the starter is on the left side vs the tr6 & gt6 are on the right. Therefore the six cylinder engine plate will not work on the four cylinder motor. Between the early and late four cylinder engine plates they will all bolt on however I believe the later plates have an extra bolt hole or two vs the early 4 cylinder. 

This is all from memory. Hope it is helpful.
Brian


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On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 7:27 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I believe that the TR6 plate will bolt up to the later Spitfire 12961500 <tel:12961500> 
block, not the 1147/1296 blocks.

mjb.



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From jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com  Fri May 31 11:17:33 2019
From: jon.wright.lbc at gmail.com (Jonathan Wright)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 10:17:33 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
Message-ID: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>

I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it? 
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Fri May 31 11:33:59 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 10:33:59 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
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Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.

Somewhere in the Midwest?

Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?

Car; number? Driver? Etc?

All of that can help...

Cheers,


Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it? 
> Thanks in advance. 
> <image1.jpeg>
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 31 11:51:40 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 12:51:40 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
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That?s Old Blue. Once owned by a guy that was in my employee.

Jack and I pulled it out of his garage, when Jack decided to go Vintage Racing. Some great stories behind all this.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711


> On May 31, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.
> 
> Somewhere in the Midwest?
> 
> Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?
> 
> Car; number? Driver? Etc?
> 
> All of that can help...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it? 
>> Thanks in advance. 
>> <image1.jpeg>
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From tr4abrad at gmail.com  Fri May 31 12:07:05 2019
From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 11:07:05 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
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I remember some of those stories from the dawn of my time in FOT. And some frightening video that led to New Blue...

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> That?s Old Blue. Once owned by a guy that was in my employee.
> 
> Jack and I pulled it out of his garage, when Jack decided to go Vintage Racing. Some great stories behind all this.
> 
> Joe Alexander
> 4505 Donald Dr
> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
> The-vintage-racer.com
> Gasketinnovations.com
> Cell:  319.464.4711
> 
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.
>> 
>> Somewhere in the Midwest?
>> 
>> Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?
>> 
>> Car; number? Driver? Etc?
>> 
>> All of that can help...
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Brad Eells
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it? 
>>> Thanks in advance. 
>>> <image1.jpeg>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>> 
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>>> 
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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri May 31 15:03:41 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 15:03:41 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
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Sorry to say I have no information regarding that Spitfire.? It did 
remind me that many times over the last few years I wish I was better 
organized, and had kept records of dates, purchase and selling price, 
etc. of every Triumph that passed through my hands, like The Rust 
Rocket, Killer Junior, The White Car, my TR250, countless GT6 and Spit 
projects, parts cars, etc.

Oh well.

mjb.




From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Fri May 31 16:41:44 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 17:41:44 -0500
Subject: [Fot] 2018 KCup T-Shirts.  Anybody have a new x-large.
Message-ID: <0A2BBA61-4194-495D-8182-C3DF375A98E1@gmail.com>

Somebody from Georgia really wants KCup shirts from 2018.

Let me know if there is one available.

The shirts were so popular at Buttonwillow, they ran out and now doing a special run to satisfy continuing requests.

Posters are available, as I ran a short run of those.

I guess we are pretty popular.

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711



From tony at tonydrews.com  Fri May 31 17:30:48 2019
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 18:30:48 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
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 <F6751F7B-5F14-474F-A35D-402C34008C00@gmail.com>
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Here's me removing the surrey top from that one.? Got changed from 4:3 
aspect ratio to 16:9 by youtube somewhere so it's kinda wiiiide now.

https://youtu.be/PX82xKLZ2JE

Don't have any pics of the spitfire though.

Cheers, Tony

On 5/31/2019 1:07 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote:
> I remember some of those stories from the dawn of my time in FOT. And some frightening video that led to New Blue...
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That?s Old Blue. Once owned by a guy that was in my employee.
>>
>> Jack and I pulled it out of his garage, when Jack decided to go Vintage Racing. Some great stories behind all this.
>>
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>>
>>
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.
>>>
>>> Somewhere in the Midwest?
>>>
>>> Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?
>>>
>>> Car; number? Driver? Etc?
>>>
>>> All of that can help...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Eells
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it?
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> <image1.jpeg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>>
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>>>>
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Fri May 31 21:57:55 2019
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2019 03:57:55 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire
In-Reply-To: <97775907-1f36-8ba7-a892-63187cb5871b@tonydrews.com>
References: <EB3640F5-CB82-410D-8CA3-736595CEB300@gmail.com>
 <F6751F7B-5F14-474F-A35D-402C34008C00@gmail.com>
 <00AFC35F-D328-46D5-8B54-937AEB75147C@gmail.com>
 <C361424B-CA68-40E2-9CC1-2BDD50737854@gmail.com>,
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The other thing that frightening video led to was a whole bunch of Southwick axles that are still keeping TR4s right side up today.



Scott Barr
McCarty Law LLP
(920) 257-2233

________________________________
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:30:48 PM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Looking for information on this spitfire

Here's me removing the surrey top from that one.  Got changed from 4:3
aspect ratio to 16:9 by youtube somewhere so it's kinda wiiiide now.

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FPX82xKLZ2JE&amp;data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7Cc267d5089f76453fc02108d6e62015cd%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C636949422816367439&amp;sdata=PvNyTf8RCjx%2FSaWTBKK87NDw6x%2BFwCJz%2FwfYMZC%2FiBw%3D&amp;reserved=0

Don't have any pics of the spitfire though.

Cheers, Tony

On 5/31/2019 1:07 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote:
> I remember some of those stories from the dawn of my time in FOT. And some frightening video that led to New Blue...
>
> Brad Eells
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That?s Old Blue. Once owned by a guy that was in my employee.
>>
>> Jack and I pulled it out of his garage, when Jack decided to go Vintage Racing. Some great stories behind all this.
>>
>> Joe Alexander
>> 4505 Donald Dr
>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613
>> The-vintage-racer.com
>> Gasketinnovations.com
>> Cell:  319.464.4711
>>
>>
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks like Jack Drew?s ?New Blue? in front.
>>>
>>> Somewhere in the Midwest?
>>>
>>> Do you have any further info on the pic...date or location?
>>>
>>> Car; number? Driver? Etc?
>>>
>>> All of that can help...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Eells
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On May 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Wright via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would be very interested in seeing more photos of the spitfire in this picture. Does anybody know who it belongs to or have photos in their archives of it?
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>> <image1.jpeg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>>
>>>> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7Csbarr%40mccarty-law.com%7Cc267d5089f76453fc02108d6e62015cd%7C5027ac9b577b4efca8a99ee22eb53484%7C0%7C0%7C636949422816367439&amp;sdata=%2BqS4oR2pxFlygvhTyzF1UDDsmfqUtWFZeguK6iHJrtk%3D&amp;reserved=0
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