From spitracer1296 at yahoo.com Tue Dec 1 09:58:34 2020 From: spitracer1296 at yahoo.com (chris crisenbery) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 16:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Round and Square Tail SCCA Racecars for Sale References: <21949811.2889183.1606841914907.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <21949811.2889183.1606841914907@mail.yahoo.com> I have a couple of Spitfires that should be put back on the track, the square tail is more of a project, but it is a solid tub and nice cage and the round tail can be bought anywhere from a roller to a runner with a little TLC. These cars can be bought very reasonable as I would like to see them in H Prod, If you have some serious interest then contact me and we can talk specifics and tailor a package for you and your budget. Again these cars can be bought very reasonable. Log books come with both cars. Chris spitracer1296 at yahoo.com cell (517) 206-8622 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've been told that the easiest and most cost effective way to get a beefed up transmission is to convert over to a GT6 Trans. I've explored this option but haven't gotten very far with it. Anyways if you have a race transmission that would fit my application i would be happy to make a deal. Regards, Sean Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Wed Dec 2 08:05:39 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 09:05:39 -0600 Subject: [Fot] =?utf-8?q?Cold_Air_Intake=2E___7=E2=80=9D_Headlamp_Replace?= =?utf-8?q?ment=2E__An_Update=2E?= Message-ID: 1st Piece Inspection. 3? Duct. Fits all vehicles with 7? headlamps. Will be sold through distributors and website after the first of the year. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks in advance Dennis Walje 1968 GT6 Sent from my iPhone From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thu Dec 3 12:06:05 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 13:06:05 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR3 front shock questions Message-ID: <2D85E69A-9B85-4068-960C-137B724D645D@icloud.com> Looking for alternatives to the off the shelf options, unfortunately I don?t have any used shocks on the shelf. Does anyone have the extended and compressed dimensions of the front shocks for the TR3? And since I?m asking, how about for the TR6 as I?ll be back to that project soon. Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone From spitlist at cox.net Thu Dec 3 12:24:11 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 12:24:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1564682299.8992.1607023451362@myemail.cox.net> Your best bet is a camber compensator. https://apex2apexmotorsports.com/shop/ols/products/camber-compensator-kit > On December 3, 2020 at 11:53 AM Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > > > > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. > > Thanks in advance > > Dennis Walje > 1968 GT6 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > > From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com Thu Dec 3 12:37:43 2020 From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 13:37:43 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Sorry Dennis, I don?t have your answer. But I?d like to piggy back on it. My 14 year old daughter and I are restoring her first car, a ?63 Herald. We?ll be upgrading to a warmed over Spitfire 1500 drive train and suspension/brakes. Any advice on the rear spring updating to the later camber compensator type? I?m hoping it?s a straight swap with a late Spitfire spring. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 281-871-9623 > On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > > ? > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. > > Thanks in advance > > Dennis Walje > 1968 GT6 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com > > From bownes at seiri.com Thu Dec 3 15:02:38 2020 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 17:02:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Squaretail w hardtop available Message-ID: Hey all, A flagger friend of mine deposited a squaretail Spit on me ~15 years ago for 'storage' while she underwent a nuclear divorce. It's been sitting next to my garage ever since and needs to go away. She doesn't want it back, her kid doesn't want it, and my wife really doesn't want it. So, available to the first one who's willing to come to sunny Troy NY to get it. As I said, it's been sitting in the same place for a Long Time and you get what you expect. Bring a winch and a trailer. :) Only financial requirement is you make a suitable donation to autox.team.net to support the list. Thanks! Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sm1ski at dslextreme.com Thu Dec 3 15:48:04 2020 From: sm1ski at dslextreme.com (kowalski) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 15:48:04 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Squaretail w hardtop available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31456d01-09ec-eab5-69f9-7b9e54215333@dslextreme.com> speaking of hardtops, does anybody want a roundtail hardtop?? The weatherstripping is gone but the glass is right here.? Just help with the shipping. mike kowalski raton, nm On 12/3/2020 3:02 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote: > > Hey all, > > A flagger friend of mine deposited a squaretail Spit on me ~15 years > ago for 'storage'? while she underwent a nuclear divorce. It's been > sitting next to my garage ever since and needs to go away. She doesn't > want it back, her kid doesn't want it, and my wife really doesn't want > it. > > So, available to the first one who's willing to come to sunny Troy NY > to get it. As I said, it's been sitting in the same place for a Long > Time and you get what you expect. Bring a winch and a trailer. :) > > Only financial requirement is you make a suitable donation to > autox.team.net to support the list. > > Thanks! > Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sm1ski at dslextreme.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 3 20:59:17 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 20:59:17 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> On 12/3/20 11:53 AM, Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. > As I recall the later style swing spring requires longer axles. mjb. From ofracer at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 06:18:57 2020 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 08:18:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Yes it does. I upgraded a 72 MKV Spitfire to a swing spring set up. Changes included the axles from a 1500, longer (flex) brake lines (upgraded to braided while I was there). I also had to make an adapter, IIRC, it was a 3/4" -1" D ring, to extend the parking brake cable. The car already had a 3.89 diff with the 4 stud vs 6 stud spring retainer on top. My son seems to like the way it handles, the race spit has spoiled me on street cars and cornering. mike h On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 11:02 PM Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > On 12/3/20 11:53 AM, Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > > Merry Christmas to all. > > > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 > GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 > GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner > performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably > due to replace. > > > > As I recall the later style swing spring requires longer axles. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Fri Dec 4 07:43:55 2020 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 14:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <240701336.2826368.1607093035808@mail.yahoo.com> swing springs do not require longer axles, that was a change they made a few years after the swing spring was added - my race Spit was updated to a swing spring, I also added the compensator back on after an event, car was much better - ran a compensator on my street Spit with the original early spring (same setup as GT6) - I personally am not a fan of the swing spring, they help but you end up with more roll n the rear (they're softer) RalphApex2Apex Motorsports On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 10:02:30 PM CST, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: On 12/3/20 11:53 AM, Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6?? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best?? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator?? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. > As I recall the later style swing spring requires longer axles. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Dec 4 08:27:10 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 15:27:10 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? Message-ID: So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local "pack-n-ship" store where it always seems to cost a mint? Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? Scott (B.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 08:58:24 2020 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 07:58:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You might try Fastenal. They do freight with their company trucks and it was very good pre COVID. Not sure what it is like now. Thanks, Chuck > On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:30 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: > > ? > So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? > > Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? > > Scott (B.) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Fri Dec 4 09:02:45 2020 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 16:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear shocks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <761912291.2848122.1607097765582@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Jason, Rimmer Bros has brackets you can buy to move the shock mounts on bodies that have rotted out wheel arc mounts - bolts to the frame where the upper shock bolts to it on roto cars - you could then use your current shocks - otherwise, standard Spit/GT shocks should work - they did the longer ones to clear the roto joints - best bet is to try and keep the shocks as upright as possible, provides better shock movement (up/down) and more direct response by the shock itself CheersRalph On Friday, December 4, 2020, 08:46:29 AM CST, Jason Sukey via Fot wrote: Greetings FOT,? ? ? ?On my GT6 MK3 racecar, (rotoflex halfshafts?have?been replaced with Datsun u-jointed shafts), I'd like to relocate the rear upper shock mount from the standard wheel arch sheet metal mount inboard to the frame, using the mounting points already there for the spitfire/gt6 swing axle shock mounts.? Since the big rotoflex joints aren't there, it looks like I'll have plenty of clearance.?? This will shorten the distance between mounting points significantly, I expect the Rotoflex length shocks will bottom out.? Does anyone know if the "off the shelf" swing axle length shocks (Koni or Spax) will work for this? Jason_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Dec 4 11:15:13 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 18:15:13 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the ideas everyone. If anyone's counting, that was three votes for Greyhound, one for Fastenal, two for UPS and one for yesterdaystractors.com. If you've got another idea, let me know. Thanks, Scott (B.) From: Barr, Scott Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:27 AM To: Amici Triumphi Subject: Shipping Options? So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local "pack-n-ship" store where it always seems to cost a mint? Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? Scott (B.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Dec 4 11:49:32 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 18:49:32 +0000 Subject: [Fot] FW: Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just want to share this one, since it?s an option I?d never even heard of before. Maybe it would be useful for others? Looking at the site, it seems like it would be pretty easy and useful if you?re not in any particular hurry. Scott (B.) From: Susan Kahler Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:44 AM To: Barr, Scott Subject: Re: [Fot] Shipping Options? Hi there! I have had success with having things hauled through (and sometimes hauling for) this site: https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/haulquery.pl, if it helps you. I hope you guys are doing well in this weird world! Susan :) On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 10:29 AM Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? Scott (B.) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfiresuz at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Fri Dec 4 12:19:46 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 12:19:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear shocks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1224082486.417024.1607109587056@myemail.cox.net> Without the rotating mass of the rotoflex joints, you should be able to use the same shocks as the non-rotoflex cars use, and the same attaching points. > On December 4, 2020 at 7:41 AM Jason Sukey via Fot wrote: > > Greetings FOT, > On my GT6 MK3 racecar, (rotoflex halfshafts have been replaced with Datsun u-jointed shafts), I'd like to relocate the rear upper shock mount from the standard wheel arch sheet metal mount inboard to the frame, using the mounting points already there for the spitfire/gt6 swing axle shock mounts. Since the big rotoflex joints aren't there, it looks like I'll have plenty of clearance. > > This will shorten the distance between mounting points significantly, I expect the Rotoflex length shocks will bottom out. Does anyone know if the "off the shelf" swing axle length shocks (Koni or Spax) will work for this? > > Jason > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Fri Dec 4 12:17:29 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 12:17:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear shocks In-Reply-To: <761912291.2848122.1607097765582@mail.yahoo.com> References: <761912291.2848122.1607097765582@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <324050796.416986.1607109449122@myemail.cox.net> If those are the same sort of brackets sold by the TSSC, the stockshocks won't work. You have to purchase a specific shock to use with that bracket. The shock mount brackets I designed will in fact use the stock Rotoflex shocks. http://www.spitlist.info/Shock.Mounts.htm Joe > On December 4, 2020 at 9:02 AM ralph hansen via Fot wrote: > > > Hello Jason, > > Rimmer Bros has brackets you can buy to move the shock mounts on bodies that have rotted out wheel arc mounts - bolts to the frame where the upper shock bolts to it on roto cars - you could then use your current shocks - otherwise, standard Spit/GT shocks should work - they did the longer ones to clear the roto joints - best bet is to try and keep the shocks as upright as possible, provides better shock movement (up/down) and more direct response by the shock itself > > > Cheers > Ralph > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 08:46:29 AM CST, Jason Sukey via Fot wrote: > > > Greetings FOT, > On my GT6 MK3 racecar, (rotoflex halfshafts have been replaced with Datsun u-jointed shafts), I'd like to relocate the rear upper shock mount from the standard wheel arch sheet metal mount inboard to the frame, using the mounting points already there for the spitfire/gt6 swing axle shock mounts. Since the big rotoflex joints aren't there, it looks like I'll have plenty of clearance. > > This will shorten the distance between mounting points significantly, I expect the Rotoflex length shocks will bottom out. Does anyone know if the "off the shelf" swing axle length shocks (Koni or Spax) will work for this? > > Jason > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Fri Dec 4 12:21:58 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 14:21:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> I shipped a Miata trans to be rebuilt this year via UPS for $150 (95#}. Since it was going to be shipped back me I bought and used a transmission shipping box (Amazon about $100). I have heard of people using igloo coolers to ship trans. Might be less than the fee to have pack and ship pack it? If you set up a UPS account you get lower shipping rates than retail. Joe B. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: > > ? > So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? > > Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? > > Scott (B.) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 4msonset at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 12:40:27 2020 From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 11:40:27 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> References: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Many years ago I had a rebuilt overdrive shipped to me in a cardboard box weight minimal packing material to protect it. It arrived with the part of the aluminum gear box that supports the stick shift snapped off. It had to have fallen hard. That cardboard box offered little protection. Do take the time to crate it up. If you?re handy, think about minimizing weight. I went overboard during that incident and built a heavy, heavy duty crate to ship the broken trans back in so that it?s replacement would be shipped back in that crate! No doubt, that extra weight cost money! (I don?t recall the shipper and costs.) Add handles or whatever helps to make it easier for shippers to move it safely. > On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Joe via Fot wrote: > > I shipped a Miata trans to be rebuilt this year via UPS for $150 (95#}. Since it was going to be shipped back me I bought and used a transmission shipping box (Amazon about $100). I have heard of people using igloo coolers to ship trans. Might be less than the fee to have pack and ship pack it? > > If you set up a UPS account you get lower shipping rates than retail. Joe B. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? >> >> Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? >> >> Scott (B.) >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/4msonset at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Fri Dec 4 13:20:42 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 20:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1590944055.2922592.1607113242407@mail.yahoo.com> HaHa this is minimal packing, a volvo block that was recently shipped to me UPS.Yeah, wrapped in plastic. Needless to say, it was returned.Shipper didn't understand how they could have broken it...Glen Efinger corner of the pan rail -----Original Message----- From: J Wagner via Fot To: Joe Cc: Amici Triumphi Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2020 2:40 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Shipping Options? Many years ago I had a rebuilt overdrive shipped to me in a cardboard box weight minimal packing material to protect it. ?It arrived with the part of the aluminum gear box that supports the stick shift snapped off. ? ?It had to have fallen hard. ?That cardboard box offered little protection. Do take the time to crate it up. ?If you?re handy, think about minimizing weight. ?I went overboard during that incident and built a heavy, heavy duty crate to ship the broken trans back in so that it?s replacement would be shipped back in that crate! ?No doubt, that extra weight cost money! ? (I don?t recall the shipper and costs.) Add handles or whatever helps to make it easier for shippers to move it safely. On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Joe via Fot wrote: I shipped a Miata trans to be rebuilt this year via UPS for $150 (95#}. ?Since it was going to be shipped back me I bought and used a transmission shipping box (Amazon about $100). ?I have heard of people using igloo coolers to ship trans. ?Might be less than the fee to have pack and ship pack it? If you set up a UPS account you get lower shipping rates than retail. ?Joe B.? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? #yiv9326600666 #yiv9326600666 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv9326600666 #yiv9326600666 p.yiv9326600666MsoNormal, #yiv9326600666 li.yiv9326600666MsoNormal, #yiv9326600666 div.yiv9326600666MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv9326600666 span.yiv9326600666EmailStyle17 {font-family:sans-serif;color:black;position:relative;letter-spacing:0pt;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}#yiv9326600666 .yiv9326600666MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv9326600666 div.yiv9326600666WordSection1 {}#yiv9326600666 So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio.? Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? ? Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? ? Scott (B.) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/4msonset at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I made steel corner brackets that were on the inside (since UPS does not like a lot of exposed metal) and used cap screws.? I secured the axle housing inside the crate.? I could have done the same for a transmission crate, but was too lazy to make the metal brackets.?? There is a UPS upcharge of about $5 for shipping a parcel that is not in cardboard.? JoeB On Friday, December 4, 2020, 02:40:33 PM EST, J Wagner <4msonset at gmail.com> wrote: Many years ago I had a rebuilt overdrive shipped to me in a cardboard box weight minimal packing material to protect it. ?It arrived with the part of the aluminum gear box that supports the stick shift snapped off. ? ?It had to have fallen hard. ?That cardboard box offered little protection. Do take the time to crate it up. ?If you?re handy, think about minimizing weight. ?I went overboard during that incident and built a heavy, heavy duty crate to ship the broken trans back in so that it?s replacement would be shipped back in that crate! ?No doubt, that extra weight cost money! ? (I don?t recall the shipper and costs.) Add handles or whatever helps to make it easier for shippers to move it safely. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Fri Dec 4 15:08:18 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 14:08:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: <1555953945.4566231.1607116233349@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> <1555953945.4566231.1607116233349@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1375180219.91070.1607119698657@connect.xfinity.com> I made a plywood box to ship a TR2-4 block. The plywood was bolted directly to the top, bottom, front and back of the block with the bolt heads recessed. I cut slotted holes to be used as handles. The box was only the thickness of the plywood against the flat surfaces larger than the block. It was very tight and secure. I think the total weight was around 150 lbs. If I remember correctly, the block weighs 140 lbs. with the main caps. Same weight as a bale of hay. In the end I did not have to ship it, but I still have the custom box. Dave H > On 12/04/2020 1:10 PM Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > > > I started out making a crate with 2x4s. Made the frame and then was going to cover it with plywood. Before I even got to the plywood, the crate weighed over 50#. I took it apart and bought the plastic transmission shipping box. > > When I shipped a TR3 rear axle for the Southwick conversion I made a plywood crate. I made steel corner brackets that were on the inside (since UPS does not like a lot of exposed metal) and used cap screws. I secured the axle housing inside the crate. I could have done the same for a transmission crate, but was too lazy to make the metal brackets. > > There is a UPS upcharge of about $5 for shipping a parcel that is not in cardboard. JoeB > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 02:40:33 PM EST, J Wagner <4msonset at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Many years ago I had a rebuilt overdrive shipped to me in a cardboard box weight minimal packing material to protect it. It arrived with the part of the aluminum gear box that supports the stick shift snapped off. It had to have fallen hard. That cardboard box offered little protection. > > Do take the time to crate it up. If you?re handy, think about minimizing weight. I went overboard during that incident and built a heavy, heavy duty crate to ship the broken trans back in so that it?s replacement would be shipped back in that crate! No doubt, that extra weight cost money! (I don?t recall the shipper and costs.) > > Add handles or whatever helps to make it easier for shippers to move it safely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertten1 at aol.com Sat Dec 5 20:03:13 2020 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 03:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <55353083.4876454.1607223793134@mail.yahoo.com> Amici, Herald to GT6 rear spring inquiries ???? Not sure if my experience will be of any help as in my search to find a suitable answer for my own Spitfire.? A tribute car to the factory endurance cars of '64 and '65 built around a GT6 body on a spitfire chassis.? I'm using a 4:11 diff with a quaife LSD and for the spring I am using a Composite Spring from Flex-A-Form out of South Carolina.? This spring is rated at 250 lbs. and is much lighter than the steel units available for our cars.?? With all the many options and ideas for set-ups and modifications for the rear springs one has to consider the final use for our car.? Mine is for autocrossing and the one thing that has helped the most was finally switching to this composite spring .? I have about 3 degrees of negative camber and the car corners flatter in the corners without the notorious inside wheel lift and tuck. Handling has much improved in the car, at least for this autocrosser.? I did not op for the camber compensator as ground clearance is reduced as I drive my car on the street occasionally.Of note, when used the late swing spring on my car I was also using a 3/4" thick spacer block between the diff and spring to help achieve the 3 degrees negative camber.?? Late Spit Swing Spring, heavy duty Spit spring, modified and de-cambered Spit and GT6 Springs these are the common offerings .? This composite spring is something different as well as some instance of coil over conversions done by some ingenious owners. Cheers and good luck,Bob T'64 Spit GT autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Walje via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 1:53 pm Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring Merry Christmas to all. Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6?? (Non roto-flex) I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. Any ideas on what is best?? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. How about a camber compensator?? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. Thanks in advance Dennis Walje 1968 GT6 Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Sat Dec 5 21:53:21 2020 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 14:53:21 +1000 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <55353083.4876454.1607223793134@mail.yahoo.com> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> <55353083.4876454.1607223793134@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On our race Gt6, we have a hybrid system. we have coil over shocks plus a single transverse leaf mainly to comply with rules that say the original spring location must remain!! years ago we tried a swing spring but did not like it on circuit Terry Australia On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Bob Totten via Fot wrote: > Amici, > > Herald to GT6 rear spring inquiries ??? Not sure if my experience will be > of any help as in my search to find a suitable answer for my own Spitfire. > A tribute car to the factory endurance cars of '64 and '65 built around a > GT6 body on a spitfire chassis. I'm using a 4:11 diff with a quaife LSD > and for the spring I am using a Composite Spring from Flex-A-Form out of > South Carolina. This spring is rated at 250 lbs. and is much lighter than > the steel units available for our cars. > > With all the many options and ideas for set-ups and modifications for the > rear springs one has to consider the final use for our car. Mine is for > autocrossing and the one thing that has helped the most was finally > switching to this composite spring . I have about 3 degrees of negative > camber and the car corners flatter in the corners without the notorious > inside wheel lift and tuck. Handling has much improved in the car, at least > for this autocrosser. I did not op for the camber compensator as ground > clearance is reduced as I drive my car on the street occasionally. > Of note, when used the late swing spring on my car I was also using a 3/4" > thick spacer block between the diff and spring to help achieve the 3 > degrees negative camber. > > Late Spit Swing Spring, heavy duty Spit spring, modified and de-cambered > Spit and GT6 Springs these are the common offerings . This composite > spring is something different as well as some instance of coil over > conversions done by some ingenious owners. > > Cheers and good luck, > Bob T > '64 Spit GT autocrosser > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Walje via Fot > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 1:53 pm > Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring > > > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 > GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. > The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner > performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due > to replace. > > Thanks in advance > > Dennis Walje > 1968 GT6 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They both could be vintage raced but would require removing the fiberglass to be legal.Thank you all for the interest and some of you with some specific parts request I will follow back up with you or hit me up again!Thanks Chris Crisenbery?Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walje at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 6 18:46:48 2020 From: walje at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Walje) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 19:46:48 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D2F50C4-808C-48F9-ACDD-2D464C95091E@sbcglobal.net> Thanks to all for responses on swing spring. I appreciate the great advice. I have ordered a camber compensator from Apex2Apex. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: > > ? > On our race Gt6, we have a hybrid system. we have coil over shocks plus a single transverse leaf mainly to comply with rules that say the original spring location must remain!! > > years ago we tried a swing spring but did not like it on circuit > > Terry > Australia > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Bob Totten via Fot wrote: >> Amici, >> >> Herald to GT6 rear spring inquiries ??? Not sure if my experience will be of any help as in my search to find a suitable answer for my own Spitfire. A tribute car to the factory endurance cars of '64 and '65 built around a GT6 body on a spitfire chassis. I'm using a 4:11 diff with a quaife LSD and for the spring I am using a Composite Spring from Flex-A-Form out of South Carolina. This spring is rated at 250 lbs. and is much lighter than the steel units available for our cars. >> >> With all the many options and ideas for set-ups and modifications for the rear springs one has to consider the final use for our car. Mine is for autocrossing and the one thing that has helped the most was finally switching to this composite spring . I have about 3 degrees of negative camber and the car corners flatter in the corners without the notorious inside wheel lift and tuck. Handling has much improved in the car, at least for this autocrosser. I did not op for the camber compensator as ground clearance is reduced as I drive my car on the street occasionally. >> Of note, when used the late swing spring on my car I was also using a 3/4" thick spacer block between the diff and spring to help achieve the 3 degrees negative camber. >> >> Late Spit Swing Spring, heavy duty Spit spring, modified and de-cambered Spit and GT6 Springs these are the common offerings . This composite spring is something different as well as some instance of coil over conversions done by some ingenious owners. >> >> Cheers and good luck, >> Bob T >> '64 Spit GT autocrosser >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dennis Walje via Fot >> To: fot at autox.team.net >> Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 1:53 pm >> Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring >> >> >> Merry Christmas to all. >> >> Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6? (Non roto-flex) >> >> I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. >> >> Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. >> >> How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Dennis Walje >> 1968 GT6 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walje at sbcglobal.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Greg Sent from my iPhone From dlhogye at comcast.net Mon Dec 7 12:32:35 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 11:32:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions In-Reply-To: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> References: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1598627704.103277.1607369556146@connect.xfinity.com> Hi Greg, The sleeve is usually loose on the pin. The manual says to not tighten the outer pin support bracket until the vehicle is on the ground and the suspension fully weighted. I always put a piece of blue or yellow painters tape on fasteners that aren't torqued or tightened right away as a reminder to go back to the later. Dave H. > On 12/07/2020 10:34 AM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > > > It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right? Seems excessive to me. > > Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? > > Thanks. > > Greg > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net From fubog1 at aol.com Mon Dec 7 13:08:49 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 20:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions In-Reply-To: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> References: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1826124956.3404307.1607371729768@mail.yahoo.com> The sleeve locks down when the nut is tightened, the nylon bushes pressed in the A-arms; the relative movement is between the steel OD & ID of the bush.Clearance between the ID of the steel & the pivot pin isn't part of the equation. Or I may be misunderstanding the concern...HTH Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake via Fot To: Fot Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 1:34 pm Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right?? Seems excessive to me. Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Mon Dec 7 13:36:52 2020 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:36:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions In-Reply-To: <1826124956.3404307.1607371729768@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> <1826124956.3404307.1607371729768@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1363517783.20528937.1607373412816.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Glen, I believe you are right, the steel bushes don't move or rotate on the pins. B.t.w. the nylon (Nylatron) bushes are ok and much better than the original rubber ones wich had to be replaced frequently. Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Maandag 7 december 2020 21:08:49 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions The sleeve locks down when the nut is tightened, the nylon bushes pressed in the A-arms; the relative movement is between the steel OD & ID of the bush. Clearance between the ID of the steel & the pivot pin isn't part of the equation. Or I may be misunderstanding the concern... HTH Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake via Fot To: Fot Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 1:34 pm Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right? Seems excessive to me. Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com ] _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Mon Dec 7 19:12:31 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:12:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions In-Reply-To: <1363517783.20528937.1607373412816.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <1363517783.20528937.1607373412816.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: While you have it apart, it would be a good idea to add grease fittings to the inner lower control arm pivots. It makes for squeak-free running. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:38 PM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot wrote: > > ? > Glen, I believe you are right, the steel bushes don't move or rotate on the pins. > B.t.w. the nylon (Nylatron) bushes are ok and much better than the original rubber ones wich had to be replaced frequently. > Marcel > > Van: "fot" > Aan: "fot" > Verzonden: Maandag 7 december 2020 21:08:49 > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions > > The sleeve locks down when the nut is tightened, the nylon bushes pressed in the A-arms; the relative movement is between the steel OD & ID of the bush. > Clearance between the ID of the steel & the pivot pin isn't part of the equation. > > Or I may be misunderstanding the concern... > HTH > > Glen Efinger > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Blake via Fot > To: Fot > Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 1:34 pm > Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions > > It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right? Seems excessive to me. > > Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? > > Thanks. > > Greg > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not talking about Triumph Parts. Might be useful information to the whole list. We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. Thank you, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From horizonracing at msn.com Wed Dec 9 08:37:21 2020 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 15:37:21 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 Best T Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > From steveadams55 at sky.com Wed Dec 9 08:42:38 2020 From: steveadams55 at sky.com (steveadams55 at sky.com) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 15:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1325052430.4788590.1607528558090@mail.yahoo.com> https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ Hi All,Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper.Pretty sure they ship worldwide best regards from across the pond? On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 Best T Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell:? 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: > > ? > https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ > > Hi All, > Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. > Pretty sure they ship worldwide > > best regards from across the pond > > On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: > > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > Best > T > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > > > ?For Example: > > > > Pegasus > > Summit > > Jegs > > Speedway Motors > > Racers Wholesale > > Etc. > > > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <95AEE3CE-85DD-4289-B43D-522CD07C3A4C@gmail.com> References: <95AEE3CE-85DD-4289-B43D-522CD07C3A4C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> Summit Speedway Pegasus Racer parts wholesale Seymour Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that they are going exclusive to ebay sales. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: >>> >> ? >> https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ >> >> Hi All, >> Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. >> Pretty sure they ship worldwide >> >> best regards from across the pond >> >> On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . >> While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . >> I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 >> >> Best >> T >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> > >> > ?For Example: >> > >> > Pegasus >> > Summit >> > Jegs >> > Speedway Motors >> > Racers Wholesale >> > Etc. >> > >> > Not talking about Triumph Parts. >> > >> > Might be useful information to the whole list. >> > >> > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. >> > >> > Thank you, >> > >> > >> > Joe Alexander >> > 4505 Donald Dr >> > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> > The-vintage-racer.com >> > Gasketinnovations.com >> > Cell: 319.464.4711 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com >> >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Wed Dec 9 08:55:11 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 15:55:11 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> References: <95AEE3CE-85DD-4289-B43D-522CD07C3A4C@gmail.com> <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> Message-ID: Pegasus Spitbits From: Fot On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 9:53 AM To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. Summit Speedway Pegasus Racer parts wholesale Seymour Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that they are going exclusive to ebay sales. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: ? https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ Hi All, Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. Pretty sure they ship worldwide best regards from across the pond On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot > wrote: Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 Best T Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > > ?For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bschirano1 at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 09:54:55 2020 From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:54:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: yup, by end of 21 helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220 , my Bell is $500 and seems never on sale Brian add OG Racing Pegasus Summit Jegs Racers Wholesale On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com > > > -- Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Wed Dec 9 10:10:33 2020 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (kekjacobsen) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 11:10:33 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If your Bell fits the shape of your head, the GFORCE won't.? ?Jake's? helmet does not work for me & he has issues with his eyeglasses underneath, and I don't.?KarenSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Brian Schirano via Fot Date: 12/9/20 10:55 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. yup, by end of 21? helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220, my Bell is $500 and seems never on saleBrianadd OG RacingPegasusSummitJegsRacers Wholesale??On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote:For Example: Pegasus Summit Jegs Speedway Motors Racers Wholesale Etc. Not talking about Triumph Parts. Might be useful information to the whole list. We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. Thank you, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com -- Brian Schirano585-305-0349 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20201209171117.86ACFA0793@autox.team.net> References: <20201209171117.86ACFA0793@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <502401265.3888603.1607534326801@mail.yahoo.com> in ref to the comment on helmets fitting or not - having spent 4 years as buyer at Pegasus a few decades back, we called it like this, some people have a Bell head, some a Simpson - different manufacturers helmets, same size etc are usually sligthly different in shape, best to stick with the brand you know fits unless you can walk in and try them on on a side note: I do have access to many of the same items Pegasus and a few others have available on a drop ship to you basis - will also give a FOT discount if possible - am in process of putting together a line card of whats available -- need it in a big hurry, go elsewhere, got a little time try me, I'd appreciate the biz and will do whatever I can to help, one racer to another (semi-retired GT2/3 current, Spit way back when and a few between) RalphApex2Apex Motorsportsapex2apexmotorsports at yahoo.com On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 11:11:18 AM CST, kekjacobsen via Fot wrote: If your Bell fits the shape of your head, the GFORCE won't.? ?Jake's? helmet does not work for me & he has issues with his eyeglasses underneath, and I don't.?Karen Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Brian Schirano via Fot Date: 12/9/20 10:55 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. yup, by end of 21? helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220, my Bell is $500 and seems never on sale Brian add OG Racing Pegasus Summit Jegs Racers Wholesale?? On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: For Example: Pegasus Summit Jegs Speedway Motors Racers Wholesale Etc. Not talking about Triumph Parts. Might be useful information to the whole list. We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. Thank you, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com -- Brian Schirano585-305-0349_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Dec 9 10:32:15 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:32:15 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <36655fc2-d803-c4b6-0fe6-b5fdc82760da@tonydrews.com> I've used both, both worked fine.? One had a short chin strap which caused me to replace, forget if that was a Bell or a G-Force.? The Bell has more robust visor hardware.? I thought the G-Force had better ventilation. It's ideal if you can try the fit before buying, I didn't have that option but it ended up OK. I always buy ones with big eye holes because I wear glasses. Regards, Tony Drews On 12/9/2020 10:54 AM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: > yup, by end of 21? helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go > shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had > started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force > SA2020 is on sale $220 , my Bell is $500 > and seems never on sale > > Brian > > add OG Racing > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Racers Wholesale > > > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot > > wrote: > > For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell:? 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage > : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Brian Schirano > 585-305-0349 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hpspitfire at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 10:34:25 2020 From: hpspitfire at gmail.com (Aaron Johnson) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:34:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: References: <95AEE3CE-85DD-4289-B43D-522CD07C3A4C@gmail.com> <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> Message-ID: I've been using Pit Stop USA - they have great prices, reasonable/free shipping and speed is good. just bought my sa2015 bell dominator 2 on sale for $545 bucks, free delivery and no taxes. aaron On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: > Pegasus > > Spitbits > > > > *From:* Fot *On Behalf Of *Phil Gott via Fot > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 09, 2020 9:53 AM > *To:* Joe Alexander > *Cc:* fot at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts > and supplies. > > > > Summit > > Speedway > > Pegasus > > Racer parts wholesale > > Seymour > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > > ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that > they are going exclusive to ebay sales. > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: > > ? > > https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ > > > > > Hi All, > > Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally > that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from > the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. > > Pretty sure they ship worldwide > > > > best regards from across the pond > > > > On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot > wrote: > > > > > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk > faster . > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on > ? shipping? . > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > Best > T > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > > > > ?For Example: > > > > Pegasus > > Summit > > Jegs > > Speedway Motors > > Racers Wholesale > > Etc. > > > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/hpspitfire at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:42 AM, steveadams55--- via Fot wrote: > > ? > https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ > > Hi All, > Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. > Pretty sure they ship worldwide > > best regards from across the pond > > On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: > > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > Best > T > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > > > ?For Example: > > > > Pegasus > > Summit > > Jegs > > Speedway Motors > > Racers Wholesale > > Etc. > > > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Dec 9 12:56:36 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 13:56:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts Message-ID: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question...? My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them.? I have a 5 point harness.? Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point harness with two crotch straps.? Of course I have ONE hole in my seat and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? Thanks, Tony Drews From garygret at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 9 13:41:49 2020 From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 20:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> References: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> Tony,Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever seen.) I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 points but none require it. Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with any other organizations you run with. Cheers,Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question...? My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them.? I have a 5 point harness.? Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point harness with two crotch straps.? Of course I have ONE hole in my seat and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Wed Dec 9 13:47:50 2020 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 20:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1217630503.3954600.1607546870350@mail.yahoo.com> Tony,I have my 6-points going through the one seat hole then angle out from the center and attached separately through the floor. Never had any tech issues with a number of sanctioning bodies (VARA, CVAR, SVRA, VSCDA).? Jake On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 02:42:45 PM CST, Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Tony,Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever seen.) I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 points but none require it. Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with any other organizations you run with. Cheers,Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question...? My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them.? I have a 5 point harness.? Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point harness with two crotch straps.? Of course I have ONE hole in my seat and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From afterapex at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 13:52:01 2020 From: afterapex at gmail.com (greg powell) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:52:01 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9E293E30-F9A1-46C5-AF56-C724182E8E8E@gmail.com> My advice would be to purchase belts that meet or exceed the racing organization's rules and then install them to follow exactly the specifications of the manufacturer. I bet that one anchor point for 2 sub belts is not per manufacturer spec to offer the protection of a 5-point harness only. Greg in Oakland, CA > On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: > > Tony, > Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever seen.) > > I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 points but none require it. > > Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with any other organizations you run with. > > > Cheers, > Gary Schneider > > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > > > The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question... > My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them. I have a 5 > point harness. Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point > harness with two crotch straps. Of course I have ONE hole in my seat > and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. > > How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/afterapex at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Dec 9 17:39:18 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 19:39:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: <9E293E30-F9A1-46C5-AF56-C724182E8E8E@gmail.com> References: <9E293E30-F9A1-46C5-AF56-C724182E8E8E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <67DF3DF9-64F4-4814-B082-0E14B8BD7FFF@aol.com> Speaking of belts, if you use the clip-in style, be sure to insert a cotter or split pin in the moveable latch as a safety measure. The pin keeps the latch in place if the spring breaks. Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 3:52 PM, greg powell via Fot wrote: > > ? > My advice would be to purchase belts that meet or exceed the racing organization's rules and then install them to follow exactly the specifications of the manufacturer. > > I bet that one anchor point for 2 sub belts is not per manufacturer spec to offer the protection of a 5-point harness only. > Greg in Oakland, CA > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: >> >> Tony, >> Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever seen.) >> >> I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 points but none require it. >> >> Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with any other organizations you run with. >> >> >> Cheers, >> Gary Schneider >> >> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: >> >> >> The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question... >> My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them. I have a 5 >> point harness. Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point >> harness with two crotch straps. Of course I have ONE hole in my seat >> and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. >> >> How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? >> >> Thanks, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/afterapex at gmail.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPad > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > Best > T > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> ?For Example: >> >> Pegasus >> Summit >> Jegs >> Speedway Motors >> Racers Wholesale >> Etc. >> >> Not talking about Triumph Parts. >> >> Might be useful information to the whole list. >> >> We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > From rkramer56 at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 05:52:34 2020 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 06:52:34 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <839329C0-2F66-470C-ACEE-02098E295807@comcast.net> References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> <839329C0-2F66-470C-ACEE-02098E295807@comcast.net> Message-ID: All things being equal it is important to support our niche suppliers. BFE, TSI, GoodParts and many others come to mind, as two that I buy from. I also have to consider Sales Tax in the calculation. Summit has an operation in Texas so everything I buy from them is taxed 8.25%. My daughter lives a few miles away from the showroom and I have made multiple trips to pick up stuff, tax and all. It is a cool place to visit. I think I have used about 90% of the mentioned suppliers over the years. and my list is very familiar: I out them in the order of the dollars I guess I've spent with each. Speedway Motors Summit Racing Jeg's Pegasus PitStop USA We, as a group, are probably not as big a customer base niche for the Triumph suppliers who focus on street cars but they do carry parts we need. I used to buy everything I could from the Roadster Factory but my business with them shrinks unless I am building a car. They are still my favorite supplier but I have used Moss more lately. I can find some stuff I can't get elsewhere from Moss UK and do the occasional business with Racetorations and Cambridge Motorsports. Bob Kramer On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:48 PM Dave via Fot wrote: > I like Summit because selection is huge and shipping is free over $100 and > I can often get the items the next day if they come from Reno. However, > sometimes the item and description is difficult to find, I have to look to > the manufacturer first to find the exact part and correct number, which > usually translates to the Summit number. > Pegasus is good for certain items not found at Summit. > Cheers, > Dave H. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk > faster . > > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors > on ? shipping? . > > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > > > Best > > T > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > >> > >> ?For Example: > >> > >> Pegasus > >> Summit > >> Jegs > >> Speedway Motors > >> Racers Wholesale > >> Etc. > >> > >> Not talking about Triumph Parts. > >> > >> Might be useful information to the whole list. > >> > >> We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> > >> Joe Alexander > >> 4505 Donald Dr > >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > >> The-vintage-racer.com > >> Gasketinnovations.com > >> Cell: 319.464.4711 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Thu Dec 10 07:07:14 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:07:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> References: <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> Message-ID: <7E3BE154-C8AC-4E1E-A764-3A316933894B@yahoo.com> Summit, Pegasus, and Pit Stop US, mostly for me. If you are ever traveling thru NE Ohio, Summit is worth the stop. Quite the candy store. I have also bought from Behrents, which is about 80 miles NW of NYC. They have a well stocked retail store. Nice that you can check things out, try them on, etc. Joe B Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > ?Summit > Speedway > Pegasus > Racer parts wholesale > Seymour > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> >> ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that they are going exclusive to ebay sales. >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: >>>> >>> ? >>> https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ >>> >>> Hi All, >>> Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. >>> Pretty sure they ship worldwide >>> >>> best regards from across the pond >>> >>> On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . >>> While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . >>> I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 >>> >>> Best >>> T >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> > >>> > ?For Example: >>> > >>> > Pegasus >>> > Summit >>> > Jegs >>> > Speedway Motors >>> > Racers Wholesale >>> > Etc. >>> > >>> > Not talking about Triumph Parts. >>> > >>> > Might be useful information to the whole list. >>> > >>> > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. >>> > >>> > Thank you, >>> > >>> > >>> > Joe Alexander >>> > 4505 Donald Dr >>> > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> > The-vintage-racer.com >>> > Gasketinnovations.com >>> > Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > fot at autox.team.net >>> > >>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>> > >>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com >>> >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfetta95 at optonline.net Thu Dec 10 07:44:41 2020 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:44:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <7E3BE154-C8AC-4E1E-A764-3A316933894B@yahoo.com> References: <7E3BE154-C8AC-4E1E-A764-3A316933894B@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1E78DCFB-D362-4504-AE30-A08694AAE38C@optonline.net> To all: I use Bruce?s Speed Shop in Rockaway NJ. They carry or can get just about anything we need. Usually at better prices You can also try on Helmets to get the best fit. Also use Pegasus Racer Parts Wholesale Summit Todd > On Dec 10, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Joe via Fot wrote: > > ?Summit, Pegasus, and Pit Stop US, mostly for me. If you are ever traveling thru NE Ohio, Summit is worth the stop. Quite the candy store. > > I have also bought from Behrents, which is about 80 miles NW of NYC. They have a well stocked retail store. Nice that you can check things out, try them on, etc. > Joe B > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>> >> ?Summit >> Speedway >> Pegasus >> Racer parts wholesale >> Seymour >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>>> >>> ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that they are going exclusive to ebay sales. >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> >>>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: >>>>> >>>> ? >>>> https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. >>>> Pretty sure they ship worldwide >>>> >>>> best regards from across the pond >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . >>>> While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . >>>> I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 >>>> >>>> Best >>>> T >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>>> > >>>> > ?For Example: >>>> > >>>> > Pegasus >>>> > Summit >>>> > Jegs >>>> > Speedway Motors >>>> > Racers Wholesale >>>> > Etc. >>>> > >>>> > Not talking about Triumph Parts. >>>> > >>>> > Might be useful information to the whole list. >>>> > >>>> > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. >>>> > >>>> > Thank you, >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Joe Alexander >>>> > 4505 Donald Dr >>>> > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>>> > The-vintage-racer.com >>>> > Gasketinnovations.com >>>> > Cell: 319.464.4711 >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > fot at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> > >>>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220, my Bell is $500 and seems never on sale Brian add OG Racing Pegasus Summit Jegs Racers Wholesale?? On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: For Example: Pegasus Summit Jegs Speedway Motors Racers Wholesale Etc. Not talking about Triumph Parts. Might be useful information to the whole list. We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. Thank you, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com -- Brian Schirano585-305-0349_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Fri Dec 11 07:58:47 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 06:58:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <1555516050.6888290.1607659473608@mail.yahoo.com> References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> <1555516050.6888290.1607659473608@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <565463581.110842.1607698727696@connect.xfinity.com> Sometimes, inexpensive and cheap mean the same thing. Dave H. > On 12/10/2020 8:04 PM Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > > > My son had a G-force helmet, which is expiring now, but did not hold up well. The side pads had been falling off for years. Often when putting the helmet on, a pad would be knocked loose and he would need to take it off the try to secure the pad in, on the false grid. I never had any such issues with my Bell helmets. His new helmet is a Bell. Joe B > > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 11:56:04 AM EST, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: > > > yup, by end of 21 helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220 https://www.ogracing.com/ , my Bell is $500 and seems never on sale > > Brian > > add OG Racing > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Racers Wholesale > > > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > For Example: > > > > Pegasus > > Summit > > Jegs > > Speedway Motors > > Racers Wholesale > > Etc. > > > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage > > : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Brian Schirano > 585-305-0349 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Dec 17 18:54:15 2020 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 19:54:15 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? References: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> Might have a buyer. Thanks, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From mikegranat9 at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 21:31:45 2020 From: mikegranat9 at gmail.com (Mike Granat) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 20:31:45 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? In-Reply-To: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> References: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460.ref@cs.com> <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> Message-ID: Hi Joe, Tony Garmey has a beaut! I have raced against it in my +4 and it is strong, fast, and reliable. Mike On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 5:59 PM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > Might have a buyer. > > Thanks, > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mikegranat9 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Fri Dec 18 10:59:09 2020 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 10:59:09 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? In-Reply-To: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> References: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460.ref@cs.com> <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> Message-ID: <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> Anyone else miss the origins of this thread but wish they?d seen it? > On Dec 17, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > Might have a buyer. > > Thanks, > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) From terrysopher at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 11:51:26 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 13:51:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? In-Reply-To: <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> References: <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> Message-ID: <493E7A50-FB87-42D4-8099-19416B272699@gmail.com> Yep! > On Dec 18, 2020, at 13:02, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: > > ?Anyone else miss the origins of this thread but wish they?d seen it? > > >> On Dec 17, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> Might have a buyer. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >> >> > > Bud Rolofson > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From horizonracing at msn.com Fri Dec 18 12:01:34 2020 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 19:01:34 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Message-ID: A reluctant sale ... Incredibly clean car ! All the ? right? bits in the right places . Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 Thanks [cid:41564FE0-BBDF-4503-A378-FBCE65C73E02] Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0397.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 153228 bytes Desc: IMG_0397.JPG URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 12:46:23 2020 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 14:46:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How about a summary of the "bits" and some lap times? Thanks John Styduhar On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:07 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > A reluctant sale ... > > Incredibly clean car ! > > All the ? right? bits in the right places . > > > > Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! > Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 > > Thanks > > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks John Styduhar > >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:07 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: >> A reluctant sale ... >> >> Incredibly clean car ! >> >> All the ? right? bits in the right places . >> >> >> >> Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! >> Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/agb at compsnw.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Fri Dec 18 13:20:56 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 13:20:56 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? In-Reply-To: <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> References: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460.ref@cs.com> <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9a04e2e3-c405-3a84-6ebf-e4bf01a22e28@bradakis.com> On 12/18/20 10:59 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: > Anyone else miss the origins of this thread but wish they?d seen it? > > Odd.? It looks like all the related posts are in the archives ( link below, for real time readers ).? Wish I knew what was happening, if it is something on my end or yours? mjb. From atr6racer at hotmail.com Fri Dec 18 14:07:57 2020 From: atr6racer at hotmail.com (Sam Halkias) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 21:07:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Fw: TR4 body In-Reply-To: <968761152.2314139.1608320062863@mail.yahoo.com> References: <968761152.2314139.1608320062863.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <968761152.2314139.1608320062863@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A good friend of mine came across this TR4 body. If anyone has any interest please contact John Mills, Sam Halkias ________________________________ From: John Mills Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 2:34 PM To: Sam Halkias ; Robert Johns Subject: TR4 body Do you guys know of anyone interested in this? I don't know the guy but it caught my attention . Triumph TR4A body tub and parts [https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/23/logos/facebook.png] Triumph TR4A body tub and parts Triumph TR4A body tub, its not perfect, needs some repair work, rockers need repaired/replaced, also have tons o... 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URL: From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com Fri Dec 18 14:40:52 2020 From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 15:40:52 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> Amici, It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 1955 EP TR3 #72 281-871-9623 From dlhogye at comcast.net Fri Dec 18 14:54:55 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 13:54:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <275143156.146748.1608328495688@connect.xfinity.com> Here is the TR4 in action during the 2016 Sonoma Kastner Cup qualifying race. The car is really nice...and fast. Dave H. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vjXmt3TItw&t=224s > On 12/18/2020 11:46 AM John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > > How about a summary of the "bits" and some lap times? Thanks John Styduhar > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:07 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > A reluctant sale ... > > > > Incredibly clean car ! > > > > All the ? right? bits in the right places . > > > > > > > > Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! > > Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks John Styduhar > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:07 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > A reluctant sale ... > > > > Incredibly clean car ! > > > > All the ? right? bits in the right places . > > > > > > > > Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! > > Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Mike On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > Amici, > > It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not > finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. > > I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low > profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to > exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. > About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with > motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any > idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, > but I?d rather not pay for custom. > > Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size > for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of > compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or > photos. > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com > > > -- *Mike Deweerd* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lotusgagne at rogers.com Fri Dec 18 15:17:41 2020 From: lotusgagne at rogers.com (CLAUDE GAGNE) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 22:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3544765.1558257.1608329861468@mail.yahoo.com> I have owned a 7x14 Neo motorcycle trailer for 10 years and am very happy with it. All aluminum, low roof (less than 6 ft) so tows real nice with my small pick-up truck. Enough room for a small car. No affiliation, just a happy customer! See:?https://neotrailers.com/trailer_nam.php Claude? On Friday, December 18, 2020, 05:06:58 p.m. EST, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote: Why not enclose your open trailer??Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car.?Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol?More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer.?Cheers?Mike? On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: Amici, It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. 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URL: From rek46 at aol.com Fri Dec 18 15:32:07 2020 From: rek46 at aol.com (rek46) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 22:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> how much??In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:? Why not enclose your open trailer??Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car.?Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol?More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer.?Cheers?Mike? On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: Amici, It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. 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URL: From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com Sat Dec 19 11:41:30 2020 From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 18:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <355392267.2547618.1608403290228@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks everyone for the ideas on a low profile enclosed trailer and for those of you inquiring about my open trailer for sale.? Here are the details: - Custom built 2010 - All aluminum (except for steel tongue) - 24.5' total length, 16.5' bed, 4' tool box - Electric brakes - Tires about 3 or 4 years old - Axles are about a foot further back than normal which makes for very smooth towing with lots of tongue weight.? Even empty I can't pick up the tongue by myself. - Cost $10,000 to have made.? Will sell for $5,000. - Houston, Texas - Photo attached Thanks,Dusty Nicholson1955 EP TR3 #72281-871-9623 On Friday, December 18, 2020, 04:33:18 PM CST, rek46 via Fot wrote: how much??In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:? Why not enclose your open trailer??Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car.?Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol?More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer.?Cheers?Mike? On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: Amici, It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 1955 EP TR3 #72 281-871-9623 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com -- Mike Deweerd_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I liked the idea but not the execution, if I hadn?t already built my airstream hauler I would have built a trailer like yours with a streamlined aluminum nose (just V-shaped) with an aluminum roof, fabric sides and an aluminum back door/ramp. There is a light low profile trailer designed by Pete Brock called the Aerovault. Kind of cool but I?m too tall to want one. https://www.bre2.net/aerovault.info/ > On Dec 19, 2020, at 10:41 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the ideas on a low profile enclosed trailer and for those of you inquiring about my open trailer for sale. Here are the details: > > Custom built 2010 > All aluminum (except for steel tongue) > 24.5' total length, 16.5' bed, 4' tool box > Electric brakes > Tires about 3 or 4 years old > Axles are about a foot further back than normal which makes for very smooth towing with lots of tongue weight. Even empty I can't pick up the tongue by myself. > Cost $10,000 to have made. Will sell for $5,000. > Houston, Texas > Photo attached > Thanks, > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > > > On Friday, December 18, 2020, 04:33:18 PM CST, rek46 via Fot wrote: > > > how much? > > In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: > > Why not enclose your open trailer? > Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car. > Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol > More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer. > Cheers > Mike > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot > wrote: > Amici, > > It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. > > I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. > > Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com > > > -- > Mike Deweerd > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ponobill at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 12:33:20 2020 From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:33:20 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: <355392267.2547618.1608403290228@mail.yahoo.com> References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> <355392267.2547618.1608403290228@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The price is a bit of a mystery, but one sold on Bring A Trailer recently for 21K https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2013-peter-brock-bre-bre-aerovault-mark-1-trailer/ > On Dec 19, 2020, at 10:41 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the ideas on a low profile enclosed trailer and for those of you inquiring about my open trailer for sale. Here are the details: > > Custom built 2010 > All aluminum (except for steel tongue) > 24.5' total length, 16.5' bed, 4' tool box > Electric brakes > Tires about 3 or 4 years old > Axles are about a foot further back than normal which makes for very smooth towing with lots of tongue weight. Even empty I can't pick up the tongue by myself. > Cost $10,000 to have made. Will sell for $5,000. > Houston, Texas > Photo attached > Thanks, > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > > > On Friday, December 18, 2020, 04:33:18 PM CST, rek46 via Fot wrote: > > > how much? > > In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: > > Why not enclose your open trailer? > Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car. > Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol > More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer. > Cheers > Mike > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot > wrote: > Amici, > > It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. > > I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. > > Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com > > > -- > Mike Deweerd > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fmccjr at aol.com Sat Dec 19 13:38:58 2020 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:38:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> <355392267.2547618.1608403290228@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I looked for a a lightweight all aluminum trailer for quite a while before settling on a Montrose 18 footer with 6? ceiling. I looked at pretty much everything and considered an enclosed Trailex (I?ve got an open Trailex- lightweight and made well), but I wanted a drop down ramp. Trailex didn?t do this as of 2018. Deal breaker. The trailer had to fit cars as wide as my Esprit V8, and as long as my XJS. It has a pass side (camper style) door and a huge awning door on the driver side so you can get t out of a closed car. I ordered 4 corner jacks so when I stay at the track on race weekends, the ?Casa Azul? is level. Makes for a better nights sleep! Montrose trailers all open in the front like a snowmobile trailer (they started making snowmobile trailers in 1971) and mine tipped the scales at 2150 before I began my customizing. It left a little over 19k hole in my pocket. The website is a challenge, but they will build whatever you want. Apparently, I was the first customer to ask for blue. I really like mine. The Aerovault is around 30k by the time you finish the wish list. Trailex, around 28. Good luck with your search! Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY > On Dec 19, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Ponostyle via Fot wrote: > > The price is a bit of a mystery, but one sold on Bring A Trailer recently for 21K > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2013-peter-brock-bre-bre-aerovault-mark-1-trailer/ > > >> On Dec 19, 2020, at 10:41 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: >> >> Thanks everyone for the ideas on a low profile enclosed trailer and for those of you inquiring about my open trailer for sale. Here are the details: >> >> Custom built 2010 >> All aluminum (except for steel tongue) >> 24.5' total length, 16.5' bed, 4' tool box >> Electric brakes >> Tires about 3 or 4 years old >> Axles are about a foot further back than normal which makes for very smooth towing with lots of tongue weight. Even empty I can't pick up the tongue by myself. >> Cost $10,000 to have made. Will sell for $5,000. >> Houston, Texas >> Photo attached >> Thanks, >> Dusty Nicholson >> 1955 EP TR3 #72 >> 281-871-9623 >> >> >> On Friday, December 18, 2020, 04:33:18 PM CST, rek46 via Fot wrote: >> >> >> how much? >> >> In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: >> >> Why not enclose your open trailer? >> Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car. >> Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol >> More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer. >> Cheers >> Mike >> >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: >> Amici, >> >> It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. >> >> I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. >> >> Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dusty Nicholson >> 1955 EP TR3 #72 >> 281-871-9623 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage >> : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> Mike Deweerd >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 1955 EP TR3 #72 281-871-9623 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 21 10:29:46 2020 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS DELAP) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:29:46 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Cam identification References: Message-ID: A M I C I I am trying to identify a TR4/3 cam that I got from Kent Howard many years ago. It is a regrind with the markings D9 and Y.2K stamped into the end. Is Crower still out there? Thanks Dennis Sent from my iPhone From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Wed Dec 23 11:23:41 2020 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:23:41 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 1954 XMAS card Message-ID: <5b5b03da52c4e31261b334b88681ac9c156f44cd@webmail> >From Cal Sales western USA distributor winter 1954 best to all Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Dorothy Xmas TR.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1705639 bytes Desc: not available URL: From zoboherald at aol.com Wed Dec 23 23:42:05 2020 From: zoboherald at aol.com (Andrew S. Mace) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 06:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] 1954 XMAS card In-Reply-To: <5b5b03da52c4e31261b334b88681ac9c156f44cd@webmail> References: <5b5b03da52c4e31261b334b88681ac9c156f44cd@webmail> Message-ID: <1712097435.4083423.1608792125192@mail.yahoo.com> Great card...but I can't believe they misspelled "Aurthur"! :o --AndyAndrew Mace -----Original Message----- From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com To: 'fot at autox.team.net' ; 'triumphs at autox.team.net' Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2020 1:23 pm Subject: [TR] 1954 XMAS card >From Cal Sales western USA distributor winter 1954 ? best to all? Tom** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/zoboherald at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Dec 25 05:43:48 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 07:43:48 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Message-ID: <0C8A5E7BD30A4AFC9376DA3CD60F1ED2@VlackTK121647> I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Dec 25 05:59:49 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 07:59:49 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <280070865.4362068.1608900474351@mail.yahoo.com> References: <280070865.4362068.1608900474351.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <280070865.4362068.1608900474351@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. JVV From: glewis999 at aol.com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Dec 25 06:09:27 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 08:09:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> Jerry; We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks. I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. Merry Christmas!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: > > ? > I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. > JVV > > From: glewis999 at aol.com > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM > To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Yes, > Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > > I run a > thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New > seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting > worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. > > My > question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using > the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on > the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. > Has anyone found a double lip seal > replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference > P/N? > > Thanks and Merry Christmas. 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URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Fri Dec 25 07:37:45 2020 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:37:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> Message-ID: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> On 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: "Jerry Van Vlack" Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net, "fot" , glewis999 at aol.com Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Jerry; We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks. I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. Merry Christmas!!! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: BQ_BEGIN I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. JVV From: glewis999 at aol.com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: [ http://mail.mobile.aol.com/ | mail.mobile.aol.com ] On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: BQ_BEGIN I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. 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URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Dec 25 07:54:17 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 09:54:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <11B6A028-9455-4F3F-8A81-65ECDA038E97@aol.com> Good point, Marcel. I have had oil pan leaks due to the same phenomenon. Spot welds where the windage tray attaches to the pan. Oil splashed onto the exhaust on left hand turns. Caught fire, but the fire went out on the straights and into the pits. Really baffled us (and the corner workers) for several sessions...! Merry Christmas! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 25, 2020, at 9:37 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote: > > ? > On 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. > Marcel > Van: "fot" > Aan: "Jerry Van Vlack" > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net, "fot" , glewis999 at aol.com > Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27 > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Jerry; > We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks. > I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. > Merry Christmas!!! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: > > I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. > JVV > > From: glewis999 at aol.com > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM > To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Yes, > Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > > I run a > thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New > seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting > worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. > > My > question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using > the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on > the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. > Has anyone found a double lip seal > replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference > P/N? > > Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New > Year has to be better than 2020. > > JVV > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Dec 25 08:48:35 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:48:35 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: I?ve seen that too but that?s not my issue at least for now. What does the future hold? From: van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 9:37 AM To: Phil Gott Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak On 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. Marcel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Van: "fot" Aan: "Jerry Van Vlack" Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net, "fot" , glewis999 at aol.com Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Jerry; We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks. I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. Merry Christmas!!! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. JVV From: glewis999 at aol.com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. 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URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Fri Dec 25 09:06:14 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <0C8A5E7BD30A4AFC9376DA3CD60F1ED2@VlackTK121647> References: <0C8A5E7BD30A4AFC9376DA3CD60F1ED2@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <521799640.4384944.1608912374519@mail.yahoo.com> Jerry, I am using a thin belt Harmonic damper that I got from BFE years ago.? It has spacer that goes against the slinger and the joint where the damper meets the spacer is right about where the seal lip is.? I found a double lip seal, but that was 10 years ago and I can't find my records of what it is.? If I come across it, I will post it.? Joe B.? On Friday, December 25, 2020, 07:44:47 AM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. ?My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N??Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020.?JVV_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Fri Dec 25 10:50:59 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:50:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: On 12/25/20 7:37 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot wrote: > On? 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the > cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was > located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. If the timing chain tensioner breaks so that you have a rough edge riding against the cover, rather than a smooth curve, it will eventually machine a slot into the cover.? I've had it happen on some Spitfire engines. mjb. From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Fri Dec 25 12:28:14 2020 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:28:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <678739777.33362502.1608924494123.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Hi Mark, I forgot about the cause. Indeed there was a broken chain tensioner. These tensioners are so flimsy, I wonder if they do much of a job. If the chain is running quiet, the surface of the tensioner remains smooth. A broken tensioner, but also deep ridges, sometimes in a short time, are proof that the chain was slapping on it. This happens when the sprockets are not perfectly in line as is often the case when a billet steel crankshaft is fitted. A wobbling chain means also that the ignition advance is not stable with some loss of power. It shows with a stroboscope light. But this is starting to look like a lesson, sorry! Marcel ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 18:50:59 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak On 12/25/20 7:37 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot wrote: > On? 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the > cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was > located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. If the timing chain tensioner breaks so that you have a rough edge riding against the cover, rather than a smooth curve, it will eventually machine a slot into the cover.? I've had it happen on some Spitfire engines. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Dec 25 13:07:47 2020 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:07:47 +0000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <4075BA83-FC2D-4510-8444-9999DE89810A@uthscsa.edu> References: <280070865.4362068.1608900474351.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <280070865.4362068.1608900474351@mail.yahoo.com>, <4075BA83-FC2D-4510-8444-9999DE89810A@uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: If you would have stopped at "don't make this political" that would have been good, you know before you inserted your political views... Marty ________________________________ From: Triumphs on behalf of Cochran, David L Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:59 PM To: glewis999 at aol.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Do not make this political. Hope however that you enjoyed the best economy we have had in for many years and one of the lowest employment rates ever for our country plus no wars and some Middle East peace never achieved before. On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:48 AM, glewis999 at aol.com wrote: ?Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cochran at uthscsa.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not only that, the ?old? engine in the car is in great shape. > > On to the street engine for the TR6 in the background. > > Happy holiday, everyone! > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walje at sbcglobal.net > > From rkramer56 at gmail.com Fri Dec 25 17:44:39 2020 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 18:44:39 -0600 Subject: [Fot] New Engine In-Reply-To: <384BCC42-773F-4492-A44B-E13961A87A22@me.com> References: <384BCC42-773F-4492-A44B-E13961A87A22@me.com> Message-ID: I don?t know.....the calendar tells a different story. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?One of the few benefits of not having the usual houseful this Christmas (and of having a very understanding spouse) is that I got to spend two hours today buttoning up the long block for the GT6. All the hard work is done, and it?s got the new special cam in it. Not only that, the ?old? engine in the car is in great shape. > > On to the street engine for the TR6 in the background. > > Happy holiday, everyone! > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > From fmccjr at aol.com Fri Dec 25 17:57:38 2020 From: fmccjr at aol.com (Rick McCurdy) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 19:57:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New Engine In-Reply-To: <384BCC42-773F-4492-A44B-E13961A87A22@me.com> References: <384BCC42-773F-4492-A44B-E13961A87A22@me.com> Message-ID: Merry Christmas, and that looks GREAT! My ?gift that keeps giving? is a 58 Bugeye that has had to have a second engine rebuild. And now the starter is toast. 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Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY > On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?One of the few benefits of not having the usual houseful this Christmas (and of having a very understanding spouse) is that I got to spend two hours today buttoning up the long block for the GT6. All the hard work is done, and it?s got the new special cam in it. Not only that, the ?old? engine in the car is in great shape. > > On to the street engine for the TR6 in the background. > > Happy holiday, everyone! > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > From jaboruch at yahoo.com Fri Dec 25 19:45:23 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 02:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <521799640.4384944.1608912374519@mail.yahoo.com> References: <0C8A5E7BD30A4AFC9376DA3CD60F1ED2@VlackTK121647> <521799640.4384944.1608912374519@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <504324236.4455576.1608950723604@mail.yahoo.com> I took a look in my spare parts box and I found a seal (it was right on top - I am not usually so lucky in my searches), which I believe to be the correct one.? It is a Timken 473229 double lip seal.? 1.562" x 2.502" x 3.13".? My engine is assembled, so I could not verify the shaft ID, but the OD is correct.? It is a fairly common seal for a transfer case (which I have no reason to have a seal for). Googling, there is also a Timken 472635 seal, which is for a 1.552" shaft, but it is 0.500" thick.? The extra thickness may better position one seal lip away from the split between the spacer and the damper hub.?? I do not use a gasket to install the timing cover, but rather just use RTV.? Adding a gasket or two would also shift the seal's relative position, which may help (or hurt, depending on where the split is).? JoeB.? On Friday, December 25, 2020, 11:08:18 AM EST, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: Jerry, I am using a thin belt Harmonic damper that I got from BFE years ago.? It has spacer that goes against the slinger and the joint where the damper meets the spacer is right about where the seal lip is.? I found a double lip seal, but that was 10 years ago and I can't find my records of what it is.? If I come across it, I will post it.? Joe B.? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 26 17:08:02 2020 From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 00:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] 1954 XMAS card In-Reply-To: <067982C7-C9EB-4615-9083-D61682D2EBAB@Ukpips.org.uk> References: <5b5b03da52c4e31261b334b88681ac9c156f44cd@webmail> <1712097435.4083423.1608792125192@mail.yahoo.com> <020001d6da3c$9caaf1f0$d600d5d0$@bell.net> <067982C7-C9EB-4615-9083-D61682D2EBAB@Ukpips.org.uk> Message-ID: <1556362120.2878662.1609027682754@mail.yahoo.com> Jonmacneed to instructed them on how to make tea also. Frank On Friday, December 25, 2020, 12:15:40 PM PST, John Macartney wrote: Tut, tut, tut, Mr. Mace. Never mind. I noted in the article in the latest TVT about 20TS that it?s author identified Sir John Black as Sir Black. Oh, dear. Sometimes I think a few lessons on how to address titled people is long overdue for our colonial cousins:) Happy Christmas, everyone! Jonmac Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intentions. > On 24 Dec 2020, at 21:34, wrote: > > o ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Mon Dec 28 06:10:18 2020 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 08:10:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Blank-off plate for oil filter - TR6 and GT6 engine? Message-ID: Hi, I?m looking for one of these. Does anyone have a spare or know of a source? 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F8EB4A64B784C9FA510E70CB9675FAB@Rocky> Trace the outline of what you want to blank off (including bolt holes), go to your friendly neighorhood machine shop, ask them to cut you a plate out of 1/8? steel. Cheap. I did that to replace the stock fuel pump on my Spitfire. Install it with a gasket! As for the oil filter, I acquired an adaptor with in/out receptacles for a system that includes a remote filter and an oil cooler. --Rocky Entriken From: Scott Janzen via Fot Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:10 AM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Blank-off plate for oil filter - TR6 and GT6 engine? Hi, I?m looking for one of these. Does anyone have a spare or know of a source? My oiling system by-passes this area entirely, and I?d like not to have to swap this piece between engines. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky at spitfire4.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gt6steve at aol.com Mon Dec 28 17:21:28 2020 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 00:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Blank-off plate for oil filter - TR6 and GT6 engine? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1755710686.3188811.1609201288522@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Scott. I used to make these.I naught be able to whip you one out this weekend.? 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URL: From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Dec 25 13:40:51 2020 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:40:51 +0000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <000501d6dafa$39681550$ac383ff0$@uprichard.net> References: <280070865.4362068.1608900474351.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <280070865.4362068.1608900474351@mail.yahoo.com> <4075BA83-FC2D-4510-8444-9999DE89810A@uthscsa.edu>, <000501d6dafa$39681550$ac383ff0$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: I concur. I apologize for my comments, there can be nothing positive with me continuing. I am out and I truly hope all of you have a Merry Christmas and a great 2021. Marty From: Triumphs on behalf of auprichard at uprichard.net Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 3:12 PM To: 'Cochran, David L' ; glewis999 at aol.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak As I said, CUT IT OUT ! Obviously I agree with one of you two, but this is the Triumph chat page for goodness sake. We need to police our chat page and keep it to the subject on which we are all in agreement ? our lovely old cars. Andrew Uprichard From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Cochran, David L Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:59 PM To: glewis999 at aol.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Do not make this political. Hope however that you enjoyed the best economy we have had in for many years and one of the lowest employment rates ever for our country plus no wars and some Middle East peace never achieved before. On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:48 AM, glewis999 at aol.com wrote: ?Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack > wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cochran at uthscsa.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steveadams55 at sky.com Fri Dec 25 13:49:57 2020 From: steveadams55 at sky.com (Steve Adams) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:49:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can we get back to talking about car stuff pls..... that?s when you guys are at your best. Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Dec 2020, at 20:08, marty sukey via Fot wrote: > > ? > If you would have stopped at "don't make this political" that would have been good, you know before you inserted your political views... > > Marty > > From: Triumphs on behalf of Cochran, David L > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:59 PM > To: glewis999 at aol.com > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Do not make this political. Hope however that you enjoyed the best economy we have had in for many years and one of the lowest employment rates ever for our country plus no wars and some Middle East peace never achieved before. > >>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:48 AM, glewis999 at aol.com wrote: >>> >> ?Yes, >> Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. >> >> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >> Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com >> >> On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: >> >> >> I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy >> sleeves and might try that. >> >> >> >> My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind >> the damper pulley. >> >> Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? >> >> >> >> Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. >> >> >> >> JVV >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cochran at uthscsa.edu > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Sat Dec 26 11:50:00 2020 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 11:50:00 -0700 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <000501d6dafa$39681550$ac383ff0$@uprichard.net> References: <280070865.4362068.1608900474351.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <280070865.4362068.1608900474351@mail.yahoo.com> <4075BA83-FC2D-4510-8444-9999DE89810A@uthscsa.edu> <000501d6dafa$39681550$ac383ff0$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: <62C63DD1-4CBB-47AF-95F3-BD656B8549F2@comcast.net> Thanks for that Andrew, I don?t want either side fucking this list up. I?ve been here for 24 years and fortunately we self police. This is an email list so I don?t even like it when it veers towards being a chat line, no finding Waldo crap please, or naming old sayings, that is for chat lines and face book. No car stuff, then stifle yourself. Merry Christmas and Happy New year Bud > On Dec 25, 2020, at 1:12 PM, auprichard at uprichard.net wrote: > > As I said, CUT IT OUT ! > > Obviously I agree with one of you two, but this is the Triumph chat page for goodness sake. We need to police our chat page and keep it to the subject on which we are all in agreement ? our lovely old cars. > > Andrew Uprichard > > From: Triumphs > On Behalf Of Cochran, David L > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:59 PM > To: glewis999 at aol.com > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Do not make this political. Hope however that you enjoyed the best economy we have had in for many years and one of the lowest employment rates ever for our country plus no wars and some Middle East peace never achieved before. > > >> On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:48 AM, glewis999 at aol.com wrote: >> >> ?Yes, >> Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. >> >> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >> Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com >> >> On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack > wrote: >> >>> I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. >>> >>> My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. >>> Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? >>> >>> Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. >>> >>> JVV >>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cochran at uthscsa.edu ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi at comcast.net Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I noted in the article in the latest TVT about 20TS that it?s author identified Sir John Black as Sir Black. Oh, dear. Sometimes I think a few lessons on how to address titled people is long overdue for our colonial cousins:) Happy Christmas, everyone! Jonmac Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intentions. > On 24 Dec 2020, at 21:34, > > wrote: > > o ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Frank On Friday, December 25, 2020, 12:15:40 PM PST, John Macartney wrote: Tut, tut, tut, Mr. Mace. Never mind. I noted in the article in the latest TVT about 20TS that it?s author identified Sir John Black as Sir Black. Oh, dear. Sometimes I think a few lessons on how to address titled people is long overdue for our colonial cousins:) Happy Christmas, everyone! Jonmac Vote for Guy Fawkes! 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Dave finished a several year restoration of his Royal Blue 1967 TR4A (I?m partial to Royal Blue 4A?s) having done all of the work himself. The car turned out very nice. Dave and I along with several WPTA unwashed did a 2500+ mile tour thru New England after the Watkins Glen festival in 2019 including spirited runs up Mt Equinox in VT and Mt Washington in NH. Dave?s blog ( davestr4a.com) details some of our adventures together. > > Seconds please and Mark please add Dave to the list. > > JVV > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Tue Dec 29 06:35:51 2020 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 13:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Please add Dave Connitt to this list In-Reply-To: References: <94A214FFB242459FA9729843410C48D4@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <1000968537.3270914.1609248951264@mail.yahoo.com> I?ll Second Dave! Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 8:34 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: Second. ? He will be just in time for some interesting FOT STUFF on the east Coast in the next couple of years. Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:30 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: ?Can I have a second please.?Dave Connitt dconnitt at fuse.net is new to the enjoyment of Triumph racing and particularly recent Kastner Cups at Pitt Race and Mid-Ohio. Dave finished a several year restoration of his Royal Blue 1967 TR4A (I?m partial to Royal Blue 4A?s) having done all of the work himself. The car turned out very nice. Dave and I along with several WPTA unwashed did a 2500+ mile tour thru New England after the Watkins Glen festival in 2019 including spirited runs up Mt Equinox in VT and Mt Washington in NH. Dave?s blog ( davestr4a.com) details some of our adventures together.?Seconds please and Mark please add Dave to the list.?JVV_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Tue Dec 29 16:21:18 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 18:21:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion References: Message-ID: Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. Thanks! Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From jaboruch at yahoo.com Tue Dec 29 17:05:55 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 00:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2082153427.5520669.1609286755535@mail.yahoo.com> Yes, it is a small Ford bearing.? I have one in my parts bin.? I will look later unless someone else beats me to it.? JoeB On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 06:23:07 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion?? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until? I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. Thanks! Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 17:25:21 2020 From: 1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com (Ken Gano) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 18:25:21 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Timken Bearing 1986. 200512 Seal 05062. 200508 This is off the boxes I saved. This is the first time in probably a decade where I have been able to contribute ?. Ken Gano Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > ?Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... > Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. > Thanks! > Phil Gott > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com > > From alfetta95 at optonline.net Tue Dec 29 17:36:58 2020 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:36:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: <2082153427.5520669.1609286755535@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2082153427.5520669.1609286755535@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Please list the numbers here. I am also in need of replacements Thnx Todd > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > ? > Yes, it is a small Ford bearing. I have one in my parts bin. I will look later unless someone else beats me to it. JoeB > > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 06:23:07 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > > Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... > Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? 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URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Tue Dec 29 17:54:39 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:54:39 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... > Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. > Thanks! > Phil Gott > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > From vfracing at aol.com Tue Dec 29 18:10:43 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 20:10:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thanks, guys! The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes. Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of ?Green? bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are different from Timken. In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc. Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: > > ?Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. > The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. > Dave H. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >> >> Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... >> Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. >> Thanks! >> Phil Gott >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >> >> > From dlhogye at comcast.net Tue Dec 29 18:25:18 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:25:18 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A8D61C8-E7EB-4D10-86BA-1D4880028623@comcast.net> The Timken number that I tried using is RW507ER. Perhaps the Suffix R is the radius designation. In any event, it doesn't really cross with the Green bearing used for the Moser axle and I could not get a different Timken bearing. The inner races have a different radius on the i.d. I alway use Timken, but not this time. Southwick will also send you Green bearings. Number RW507E. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Phil Gott wrote: > > Thanks, guys! > The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes. > Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of ?Green? bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are different from Timken. > In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc. > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: >> >> ?Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. >> The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. >> Dave H. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... >>> Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. >>> Thanks! >>> Phil Gott >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > From mark at bradakis.com Tue Dec 29 18:34:53 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 18:34:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9fae592c-0e46-5c7f-2cc5-97dc726d148e@bradakis.com> On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list.? It was 24 years ago, 1996.? Time flies when you're having fun. mjb. From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 18:41:04 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:41:04 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: <9fae592c-0e46-5c7f-2cc5-97dc726d148e@bradakis.com> References: <9fae592c-0e46-5c7f-2cc5-97dc726d148e@bradakis.com> Message-ID: We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. Thanks Mark. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > > That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From dlhogye at comcast.net Tue Dec 29 18:46:53 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:46:53 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007B20DA-3A3C-4613-9A6C-01F0B4683596@comcast.net> I also discovered a similar bearing i.d. radius issue for the pinion tail bearing in the Triumph diff. The typical Timken has a fat radius that creates a small contact surface against the pinion flange. When I researched this matter, I did find a Timken bearing with a different i.d. radius that provided a much wider contact to the flange. The factory also used a wider contact here. I had a couple axle assemblies sitting around and found original numbers on this bearing that were different than the typically available bearing. Obviously, through the years a substitute was made. The substitute is probably less expensive. Better profit margin, but not really better. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Phil Gott wrote: > > Thanks, guys! > The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes. > Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of ?Green? bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are different from Timken. > In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc. > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: >> >> ?Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. >> The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. >> Dave H. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... >>> Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. >>> Thanks! >>> Phil Gott >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > From jaboruch at yahoo.com Tue Dec 29 19:57:07 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 02:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435796496.499899.1609297027219@mail.yahoo.com> The Moser package that I have, which came with 2 bearings and 2 press on retainers is part number MSR-9507F.? The bearing is an RW507E, 1.377 ID and 2.834 OD.? JoeB On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 06:23:07 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion?? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until? I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. Thanks! Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Tue Dec 29 20:11:25 2020 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:11:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <9fae592c-0e46-5c7f-2cc5-97dc726d148e@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1609297885.k5efi1t008wo8444@webmail.lumos.net> I agree, that is a good idea. John On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:41:04 -0600, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. Thanks Mark. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > > That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? From terrysopher at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 20:55:04 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:55:04 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Since Kastner Cup will be on West Coast & the Anniversary is in December - Something in the Southeast may be a good choice based on weather! Roebling, Jekyll Island!?!? > On Dec 29, 2020, at 20:47, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. > > Thanks Mark. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >> >> ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote >> >> Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! >> >> That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. >> >> mjb. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From hankgiffin at cox.net Tue Dec 29 22:25:51 2020 From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 00:25:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 on Wheeler Dealers Message-ID: <02a501d6de6c$3e7ef430$bb7cdc90$@cox.net> Wheeler Dealers series 16 episode 11 has a 20 year stored TR4 as the feature. 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I better check, my 100 year high school reunion might be coming up. > On Dec 29, 2020, at 10:01 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > On 12/29/20 6:41 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: >> We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. >> > > At least a run of silver anniversary T shirts. And I'll have mine sent to the UPS store or some such, don't want them stolen off my porch like the 2020 Kastner Cup shirts were. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com > > From tr4racing at googlemail.com Wed Dec 30 00:16:57 2020 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 08:16:57 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001801d6de7b$c2955ac0$47c01040$@gmail.com> I use a lip seal which sits before the bearing and prevent oil is getting in the bearing itself as I know that the seals on roller bearings are not good enough. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot Im Auftrag von Phil Gott via Fot Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Dezember 2020 02:11 An: Dave Cc: Friends of Triumph Betreff: Re: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion Thanks, guys! The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes. Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of ?Green? bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are different from Timken. In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc. Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: > > ?Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. > The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. > Dave H. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >> >> Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... >> Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. >> Thanks! >> Phil Gott >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >> >> > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From gasket.works at gte.net Wed Dec 30 07:06:55 2020 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion References: <1321489029.594435.1609337215570.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1321489029.594435.1609337215570@mail.yahoo.com> What say best photo from each member with a?Three-four sentence description. On a member section of the web site? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On?Tuesday, December 29, 2020,?Joe Alexander via Fot??wrote: We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. Thanks Mark. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > > That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list.? It was 24 years ago, 1996.? 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URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Dec 30 07:11:08 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:11:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: <1321489029.594435.1609337215570@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1321489029.594435.1609337215570@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9A34587E-3DEC-42DB-BE21-978157C7ACCE@aol.com> I like that! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 30, 2020, at 9:08 AM, Mordy Dunst via Fot wrote: > > ?What say best photo from each member with a Three-four sentence description. On a member section of the web site? > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. > > Thanks Mark. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > > > ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > > > > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > > > > That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. > > > > mjb. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Dec 30 08:10:48 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Dec 30, 2020 9:56 am Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 To Change the Subject Line and Summarize: Mark Bradakis announces 25th Anniversary. Mark suggests a special run of FOT Shirts. Mordy suggests pictures in Website. Terry suggests doing something on the East Coast. All good ideas, eh? I think we are overdue for a run of T-Shirts and these could be made special. And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. Regards, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Roebling, Jekyll Island!?!? > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 20:47, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> ?We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. >> >> Thanks Mark. >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote >>> >>> Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! >>> >>> That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. >>> >>> mjb. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >> >> From ofracer at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 11:23:08 2020 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 13:23:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've looked for an excuse to run that event. mike h On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:55 PM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > ? > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > On Dec 29, 2020, at 9:55 PM, Terry Sopher wrote: > > > > ?Since Kastner Cup will be on West Coast & the Anniversary is in > December - Something in the Southeast may be a good choice based on > weather! Roebling, Jekyll Island!?!? > > > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 20:47, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > >> > >> ?We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. > >> > >> Thanks Mark. > >> > >> Joe Alexander > >> 4505 Donald Dr > >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > >> The-vintage-racer.com > >> Gasketinnovations.com > >> Cell: 319.464.4711 > >> > >> > >>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > >>> > >>> ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > >>> > >>> Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great > group! > >>> > >>> That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On > December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time > flies when you're having fun. > >>> > >>> mjb. > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot at autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. > > Regards, > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Terry Sopher > On Dec 30, 2020, at 09:57, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?To Change the Subject Line and Summarize: > > Mark Bradakis announces 25th Anniversary. > > Mark suggests a special run of FOT Shirts. > > Mordy suggests pictures in Website. > > Terry suggests doing something on the East Coast. > > All good ideas, eh? > > I think we are overdue for a run of T-Shirts and these could be made special. And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. > > Regards, > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From curt.johnston at comcast.net Wed Dec 30 12:17:28 2020 From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:17:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1053581724.185683.1609355849026@connect.xfinity.com> Sounds like the start of a Kastner Cup Series! Four races; east, west, south, north! Curt Johnston > On 12/29/2020 7:55 PM Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: > > > Since Kastner Cup will be on West Coast & the Anniversary is in December - Something in the Southeast may be a good choice based on weather! Roebling, Jekyll Island!?!? > > > On Dec 29, 2020, at 20:47, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > > > ?We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. > > > > Thanks Mark. > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > >> > >> ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > >> > >> Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > >> > >> That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. > >> > >> mjb. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/curt.johnston at comcast.net From sjanzen at me.com Wed Dec 30 12:26:12 2020 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:26:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> Message-ID: I second the vote for a long sleeve option! On Dec 30, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: Yes and I like getting T-shirts out early. Long sleeve & shirt sleeve plz! Terry Sopher > On Dec 30, 2020, at 09:57, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?To Change the Subject Line and Summarize: > > Mark Bradakis announces 25th Anniversary. > > Mark suggests a special run of FOT Shirts. > > Mordy suggests pictures in Website. > > Terry suggests doing something on the East Coast. > > All good ideas, eh? > > I think we are overdue for a run of T-Shirts and these could be made special. And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. > > Regards, > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cartravel at pobox.com Wed Dec 30 13:39:09 2020 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:39:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, and definitely not white! You just can't get the inevitable grease stains out. - Larry Young On 12/30/2020 1:26 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > I second the vote for a long sleeve option! > > On Dec 30, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot > wrote: > > Yes and I like getting T-shirts out early. ?Long sleeve & shirt sleeve > plz! > > Terry Sopher > >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 09:57, Joe Alexander via Fot > > wrote: >> >> ?To Change the Subject Line and Summarize: >> >> Mark Bradakis announces 25th Anniversary. >> >> Mark suggests a special run of FOT Shirts. >> >> Mordy suggests pictures in Website. >> >> Terry suggests doing something on the East Coast. >> >> All good ideas, eh? >> >> I think we are overdue for a run of T-Shirts and these could be made >> special. And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: ?319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bownes at seiri.com Wed Dec 30 14:42:29 2020 From: bownes at seiri.com (Bob Bownes -Seiri) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:42:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Restorer? In-Reply-To: <48db01985a5a1e807428d924ec7d11d8fe6e305a@webmail> References: <48db01985a5a1e807428d924ec7d11d8fe6e305a@webmail> Message-ID: <40CCA6B2-59AA-4AD4-9EE4-A04D51A03393@seiri.com> That?s a common misspelling of my last name, but I?m hardly a professional restoration person. > On Dec 30, 2020, at 13:40, T. R. Householder via Fot wrote: > > ?Can anyone relate to a Bob Bower restoring British cars? _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > From terrysopher at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 14:50:00 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: <1d3a941e-ec79-001d-403a-208a08dd94e9@bradakis.com> References: <1d3a941e-ec79-001d-403a-208a08dd94e9@bradakis.com> Message-ID: I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. > On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?Interesting. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From jhasty at mhc-law.com Wed Dec 30 15:41:15 2020 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 22:41:15 +0000 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: <1d3a941e-ec79-001d-403a-208a08dd94e9@bradakis.com>, Message-ID: <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> If it was a ?major British engine rebuilder (of Spit) motors in NC it would be Rick Parent...perhaps we might have his comment? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: > > ?I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. > >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Interesting. >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 >> >> mjb. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > > From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 15:45:11 2020 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:45:11 -0600 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> References: <1d3a941e-ec79-001d-403a-208a08dd94e9@bradakis.com> <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> Message-ID: That does look like the Spitfire that Dave Foreman ran here in Texas and it did in fact have Rick Parent motor (at that time at least) Bob Kramer On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 4:42 PM John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: > If it was a ?major British engine rebuilder (of Spit) motors in NC it > would be Rick Parent...perhaps we might have his comment? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot > wrote: > > > > ?I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder > in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but > he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 > engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. > > > >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot > wrote: > >> > >> ?Interesting. > >> > >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 > >> > >> mjb. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 16:33:06 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:33:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50E85E66-2B47-4440-B401-5C3DDCF5433A@gmail.com> Not Dave Foreman?s old car...that was a ?62 that I bought w/out Engine or trans & sold this summer to new owner in PA, who is getting it ready for SCCA. > On Dec 30, 2020, at 17:45, Bob Kramer wrote: > > ? > That does look like the Spitfire that Dave Foreman ran here in Texas and it did in fact have Rick Parent motor (at that time at least) > > Bob Kramer > > >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 4:42 PM John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: >> If it was a ?major British engine rebuilder (of Spit) motors in NC it would be Rick Parent...perhaps we might have his comment? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: >> > >> > ?I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. >> > >> >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >> >> >> >> ?Interesting. >> >> >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 >> >> >> >> mjb. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 18:04:50 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 20:04:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> References: <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> Message-ID: <8085122A-745D-4717-A9D2-C8C693346831@gmail.com> Seller states ? The engine was built by Larry Melvin in Greensboro NC? > On Dec 30, 2020, at 17:41, John H. Hasty wrote: > > ?If it was a ?major British engine rebuilder (of Spit) motors in NC it would be Rick Parent...perhaps we might have his comment? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: >> >> ?I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. >> >>>> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Interesting. >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 >>> >>> mjb. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> From garygret at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 30 21:37:29 2020 From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: glensfirstracecar.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 06:38:17 2020 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 07:38:17 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old > reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered > my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the > throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long > though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My > first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little > hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to > capture the guilty look. > > Gary Schneider > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > Glen Efinger > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother > John is driver. > > [image: glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > - > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: glensfirstracecar.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Thu Dec 31 07:12:13 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 14:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <867977151.3649731.1609423933994@mail.yahoo.com> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ?Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: glensfirstracecar.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Thu Dec 31 07:22:52 2020 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 14:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <867977151.3649731.1609423933994@mail.yahoo.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> <867977151.3649731.1609423933994@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2124024677.3668766.1609424572203@mail.yahoo.com> I was allowed to use the engine from our mower in my go-kart during the week as long as I re-installed it on the mower Friday night, so I could mow Saturday. All was good until I got ahold of some nitromethane from a drag racer friend around the corner... BTW, 10% is fine in a 4hp Briggs, 20% not so much. Apparently pistons are only supposed to have the one hole for the gudgeon pin!? Jake On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:16:46 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ?Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: glensfirstracecar.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Thu Dec 31 07:31:51 2020 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (kekjacobsen) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 08:31:51 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <2124024677.3668766.1609424572203@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: All you poor people that didn't grow up with a family go-kart track...Karting Kettle, Elkhart Lake...my Grandpa built that....Sorry, not sorry!!!KarenSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot Date: 12/31/20 8:24 AM (GMT-06:00) To: fot at autox.team.net, garygret at sbcglobal.net, fubog1 Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I was allowed to use the engine from our mower in my go-kart during the week as long as I re-installed it on the mower Friday night, so I could mow Saturday. All was good until I got ahold of some nitromethane from a drag racer friend around the corner... BTW, 10% is fine in a 4hp Briggs, 20% not so much. Apparently pistons are only supposed to have the one hole for the gudgeon pin!?Jake On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:16:46 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes. 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Bob Kramer On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 8:17 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and > scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [image: Wink]? > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp > go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel > exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the > rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before > the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the > magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing > supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a > serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > Duncan > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old > reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered > my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the > throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long > though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My > first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little > hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to > capture the guilty look. > > Gary Schneider > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > Glen Efinger > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother > John is driver. > > [image: glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > - > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So we (me and two of my brothers) figured out mounting it and found a clutch and chain and so on, but no throttle cable and no brakes. Anyways, one kid drove it while another stood on the axle and worked the carburetor, very scary screaming down the road standing on the back holding on with one hand I can tell you. I've gotten a little smarter since then, some will say not by much? Happy New Year Friends Brian On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 9:23 AM Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: > I was allowed to use the engine from our mower in my go-kart during the > week as long as I re-installed it on the mower Friday night, so I could mow > Saturday. All was good until I got ahold of some nitromethane from a drag > racer friend around the corner... BTW, 10% is fine in a 4hp Briggs, 20% not > so much. Apparently pistons are only supposed to have the one hole for the > gudgeon pin! [image: Emoji] > > Jake > > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:16:46 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and > scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [image: Wink]? > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp > go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel > exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the > rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before > the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the > magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing > supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a > serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > Duncan > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old > reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered > my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the > throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long > though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My > first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little > hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to > capture the guilty look. > > Gary Schneider > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > Glen Efinger > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother > John is driver. > > [image: glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > - > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com > > > -- Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But man was it fun. mike h On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 9:59 AM Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: > Up north we looked for old snowblowers. > > Bob Kramer > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 8:17 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > >> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and >> scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [image: Wink]? >> Glen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >> To: Gary Schneider >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >> >> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp >> go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel >> exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the >> rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before >> the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the >> magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing >> supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a >> serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >> >> Duncan >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < >> fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old >> reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered >> my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the >> throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long >> though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My >> first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little >> hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to >> capture the guilty look. >> >> Gary Schneider >> >> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < >> fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, yes, and yes. >> Glen Efinger >> >> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my >> brother John is driver. >> >> [image: glensfirstracecar.jpg] >> >> >> >> - >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 09:44:25 AM CST, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: Mixing in a little Cox Glow Plug fuel (nitromethane) with the gas made sure our string of scraped lawn mower engines didn't live very long either.But man was it fun. mike h On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 9:59 AM Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: Up north we looked for old snowblowers. Bob Kramer On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 8:17 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ?Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:24:37 AM CST, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: I made this after hours in the school shop, arc welder, electrical conduit and used parts I scrounged when I was 14. ?Clearly should have built in a little more legroom, or this photo was taken later. ?Good for about 25 mph in the parking lots I ran it in. ?Good thing I did not know the nitromethane trick, but it would have blown up, but instead I sold it to a friend for $50. Yep, it was the early 70s. ?Bell bottoms and long hair. Scott Janzen Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave H. > On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [Wink]? > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > Duncan > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. > > > > Gary Schneider > > > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > > Glen Efinger > > > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. > > > > [glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > > > > > - > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: glensfirstracecar.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sonomascot at aol.com Thu Dec 31 09:43:36 2020 From: sonomascot at aol.com (Scott Meredith) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 16:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <560510282.187795.1609432669906@connect.xfinity.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> <867977151.3649731.1609423933994@mail.yahoo.com> <560510282.187795.1609432669906@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <791756984.3696717.1609433016541@mail.yahoo.com> Dave, you're safe, the Statute of Limitations in CA. is 10 years - -----Original Message----- From: DAVE HOGYE via Fot To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net Sent: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 8:38 Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I didn't scour on trash day, but there was a construction site close by and the portable concrete mixer's 8HP engine grew legs and ended up in my minibike.? I don't know how it got in there either, because it barely fit.? I had the fastest minibike in town.? Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sonomascot at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H. > On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [Wink]? > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > Duncan > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. > > > > Gary Schneider > > > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > > Glen Efinger > > > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. > > > > [glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > > > > > - > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger.? We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine.? Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there.? The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling.? We thought that was pretty funny.? I still do.? A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger.? We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine.? Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there.? The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling.? We thought that was pretty funny.? I still do.? A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > ? > Great stuff here gang, keep it up! > I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...! > Glen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot > To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! > > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: > > > In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. > Dave H. >> On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? >> Glen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >> To: Gary Schneider >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >> >> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >> >> Duncan >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. >> >> Gary Schneider >> >> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, yes, and yes. >> Glen Efinger >> >> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Seems like some good stuff in there. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? Need any of this? Mostly Spitfire stuff, with a little GT6 mixed in. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Dec 31 13:19:03 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 20:19:03 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Some GT6 Mk III rear windows.... Scott (B.) From: Fot on behalf of Barr, Scott via Fot Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 2:10:15 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper Need any of this? Mostly Spitfire stuff, with a little GT6 mixed in. [Image] Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 [Image] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: processed.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 662047 bytes Desc: processed.jpeg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: processed.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 694969 bytes Desc: processed.jpeg URL: From sjanzen at me.com Thu Dec 31 13:27:14 2020 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 15:27:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8557D472-A2EA-49B7-A015-818B3EEBE146@me.com> No idea, maybe some other lister knows how to tell them apart. Looks like you are all hitched up already and set to go. No worries . Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Barr, Scott wrote: > > ? > There is a rack, but no idea if it's Spit or GT6, or the condition. Do you know a quick way to tell? > > There is a lot of broken stuff in here. Some good stuff too, but I am not super interested in sorting the wheat from the chaff :-) > > > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > > > From: Scott Janzen > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020, 2:13 PM > To: Barr, Scott > Subject: Re: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper > > GT6 steering rack? I would take that if it?s any good. > Seems like some good stuff in there. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Need any of this? Mostly Spitfire stuff, with a little GT6 mixed in. >> >> >> >> >> >> Scott Barr >> McCarty Law LLP >> (920) 257-2233 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adcronin at mi.rr.com Thu Dec 31 13:41:58 2020 From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 15:41:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Go Cart In-Reply-To: <2106217253.3666784.1609432137866@mail.yahoo.com> References: <80397303-5A9F-4C51-833E-C90885C518F9@me.com> <2106217253.3666784.1609432137866@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1EFA96DF-3CE9-4D78-9126-8ED80723FBD6@mi.rr.com> My son in the early / mid 80?s on his wood frame TR3 wheeled, rope pull steering! On Dec 31, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: Very cool, Scott! Using those old "drag" brakes just prepared us for thinking British brakes from the '50's are great! On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:24:37 AM CST, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: I made this after hours in the school shop, arc welder, electrical conduit and used parts I scrounged when I was 14. Clearly should have built in a little more legroom, or this photo was taken later. Good for about 25 mph in the parking lots I ran it in. Good thing I did not know the nitromethane trick, but it would have blown up, but instead I sold it to a friend for $50. Yep, it was the early 70s. Bell bottoms and long hair. 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Looks like you are all hitched up already and set to go. No worries . Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Barr, Scott wrote: ? There is a rack, but no idea if it's Spit or GT6, or the condition. Do you know a quick way to tell? There is a lot of broken stuff in here. Some good stuff too, but I am not super interested in sorting the wheat from the chaff :-) Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 ________________________________ From: Scott Janzen Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020, 2:13 PM To: Barr, Scott Subject: Re: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper GT6 steering rack? I would take that if it?s any good. Seems like some good stuff in there. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? Need any of this? Mostly Spitfire stuff, with a little GT6 mixed in. 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URL: From JIBrooks at live.com Thu Dec 31 13:46:40 2020 From: JIBrooks at live.com (Jack Brooks) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 20:46:40 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <2124024677.3668766.1609424572203@mail.yahoo.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> <867977151.3649731.1609423933994@mail.yahoo.com> <2124024677.3668766.1609424572203@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was retroactively not allowed to put the old mower?s 3.5 HP Briggs and Stratton in my 5 speed Schwinn bicycle, but that bike was awesome for about a hour before Mom saw it and told me to park it until Dad got home. Dad gave me 30 minutes to get the old mower running again, which I barely completed on time. Being fair to my parents, that sucker was not at all safe or legal for the street but it was fun and fast! Jack From: Fot On Behalf Of Erik Jacobsen via Fot Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:23 AM To: fot at autox.team.net; garygret at sbcglobal.net; fubog1 Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I was allowed to use the engine from our mower in my go-kart during the week as long as I re-installed it on the mower Friday night, so I could mow Saturday. All was good until I got ahold of some nitromethane from a drag racer friend around the corner... BTW, 10% is fine in a 4hp Briggs, 20% not so much. Apparently pistons are only supposed to have the one hole for the gudgeon pin! [Emoji] Jake On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:16:46 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot > wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [Wink] ? Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net >; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot > wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot > wrote: Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. 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With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake. Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position). He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY > On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > ?Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Great stuff here gang, keep it up! >> I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...! >> Glen >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot >> To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE >> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >> >> A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! >> >> On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: >> >> >> In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. >> Dave H. >>> On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? >>> Glen >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >>> To: Gary Schneider >>> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >>> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >>> >>> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >>> >>> Duncan >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. >>> >>> Gary Schneider >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Yes, yes, and yes. >>> Glen Efinger >>> >>> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sonomascot at aol.com Thu Dec 31 16:34:16 2020 From: sonomascot at aol.com (Scott Meredith) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> Message-ID: <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> Rick M.You win! -----Original Message----- From: Rick McCurdy via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: Friends Of Triumph Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 One Christmas (i might have been about 12 or 13 in ?69 or ?70), I asked for a go kart. Santa thought he would be just cool enough and I got a go kart frame. No engine. Some time later, the old Reo reel to reel mower gave up its motor for the cause. Of course, my folks would not let me ride the kart on the road, so it got beaten around the lawn and one day, I noticed the fuel line below the cylindrical brass tank leaking so I decided to repair it myself.?With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake.??Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position).He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: ?Great stuff here gang, keep it up!I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...!Glen -----Original Message----- From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 A miracle any of us survived to adulthood!? On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger.? We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine.? Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there.? The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling.? We thought that was pretty funny.? I still do.? A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sonomascot at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Thu Dec 31 16:48:31 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1465187253.3773752.1609458511389@mail.yahoo.com> Don't be too quick, every time I declare a winner in my mind, I open the next post.This stuff is great, needs to be archived!Also after reading these posts, I somehow feel a little less strange...Glen -----Original Message----- From: Scott Meredith via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 6:34 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 Rick M.You win! -----Original Message----- From: Rick McCurdy via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: Friends Of Triumph Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 One Christmas (i might have been about 12 or 13 in ?69 or ?70), I asked for a go kart. Santa thought he would be just cool enough and I got a go kart frame. No engine. Some time later, the old Reo reel to reel mower gave up its motor for the cause. Of course, my folks would not let me ride the kart on the road, so it got beaten around the lawn and one day, I noticed the fuel line below the cylindrical brass tank leaking so I decided to repair it myself.?With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake.??Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position).He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: ?Great stuff here gang, keep it up!I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...!Glen -----Original Message----- From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 A miracle any of us survived to adulthood!? On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger.? We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine.? Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there.? The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling.? We thought that was pretty funny.? I still do.? A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sonomascot at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Thu Dec 31 17:56:40 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 19:56:40 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <318D545B238D4E439F3246F813DED382@VlackTK121647> Thankfully no one was injured and the house didn?t burn to the ground but I must say I began laughing at the 8 foot tall vapor fire and didn?t stop until the end. I wanted a go kart so bad but it never happened. There was a neighbor kid who mounted an engine on a wagon however and that thing would fly once he got it rolling. No issues with the hills around my Pittsburgh neighborhood either. I agree Rick?s story is the best so far. JVV From: Scott Meredith via Fot Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:34 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 Rick M. You win! -----Original Message----- From: Rick McCurdy via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: Friends Of Triumph Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 One Christmas (i might have been about 12 or 13 in ?69 or ?70), I asked for a go kart. Santa thought he would be just cool enough and I got a go kart frame. No engine. Some time later, the old Reo reel to reel mower gave up its motor for the cause. Of course, my folks would not let me ride the kart on the road, so it got beaten around the lawn and one day, I noticed the fuel line below the cylindrical brass tank leaking so I decided to repair it myself. With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake. Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position). He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? Great stuff here gang, keep it up! I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...! Glen -----Original Message----- From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H. On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Yes, yes, and yes. 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URL: From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 31 18:15:50 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 18:15:50 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1465187253.3773752.1609458511389@mail.yahoo.com> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> <1465187253.3773752.1609458511389@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 12/31/20 4:48 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > This stuff is great, needs to be archived! Uh, check out the archive links at the bottom of each real time message.? They might be at the top of digest messages. mjb. From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 31 18:27:47 2020 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS DELAP) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 19:27:47 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <0EDE675E-C492-4565-9EA9-0BA82CE7A483@sbcglobal.net> References: <0EDE675E-C492-4565-9EA9-0BA82CE7A483@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <049FD00E-4FCA-41EF-9246-74828308D53C@sbcglobal.net> Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 2:56 PM, DENNIS DELAP wrote: > > ?I finally built one with steering- albeit backwards? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 31, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! >> >> On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: >> >> >> In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. >> Dave H. >>> On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? >>> Glen >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >>> To: Gary Schneider >>> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >>> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >>> >>> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >>> >>> Duncan >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. >>> >>> Gary Schneider >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Yes, yes, and yes. >>> Glen Efinger >>> >>> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Thu Dec 31 18:49:53 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 17:49:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <318D545B238D4E439F3246F813DED382@VlackTK121647> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> <318D545B238D4E439F3246F813DED382@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <635662486.190182.1609465794336@connect.xfinity.com> Yes! Great laughs gang. Thanks for sharing these memories. The photos are classic. Happy Anniversary FoT. Thanks Mark. Dave H. > On 12/31/2020 4:56 PM Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: > > > Thankfully no one was injured and the house didn?t burn to the ground but I must say I began laughing at the 8 foot tall vapor fire and didn?t stop until the end. I wanted a go kart so bad but it never happened. There was a neighbor kid who mounted an engine on a wagon however and that thing would fly once he got it rolling. No issues with the hills around my Pittsburgh neighborhood either. > I agree Rick?s story is the best so far. > JVV > > From: Scott Meredith via Fot > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:34 PM > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > Rick M. > You win! > [Smile] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick McCurdy via Fot > To: Phil Gott > Cc: Friends Of Triumph > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 2:26 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > One Christmas (i might have been about 12 or 13 in ?69 or ?70), I asked for a go kart. Santa thought he would be just cool enough and I got a go kart frame. No engine. Some time later, the old Reo reel to reel mower gave up its motor for the cause. Of course, my folks would not let me ride the kart on the road, so it got beaten around the lawn and one day, I noticed the fuel line below the cylindrical brass tank leaking so I decided to repair it myself. > With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake. > > Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position). > He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. > > Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > > > > On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Great stuff here gang, keep it up! > > I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...! > > Glen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot > > To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE > > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm > > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > > > > > A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! > > > > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: > > > > > > In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. > > Dave H. > > > > > > > On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [Wink]? > > > Glen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > > > To: Gary Schneider > > > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > > > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > > > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > > > > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > > > > > Duncan > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. > > > > > > > > Gary Schneider > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > > > > Glen Efinger > > > > > > > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sonomascot at aol.com > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Styduhar, Daniel Lee via Fot wrote: > > ? > > > Gene, Ed 91 years old and still with us, and Austin > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 31 13:56:02 2020 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS DELAP) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 14:56:02 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1528303303.3700824.1609434217422@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1528303303.3700824.1609434217422@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0EDE675E-C492-4565-9EA9-0BA82CE7A483@sbcglobal.net> I finally built one with steering- albeit backwards? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: > > ? > A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! > > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: > > > In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. > Dave H. >> On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? >> Glen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >> To: Gary Schneider >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >> >> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >> >> Duncan >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. >> >> Gary Schneider >> >> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, yes, and yes. >> Glen Efinger >> >> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks in advance Dennis Walje 1968 GT6 Sent from my iPhone From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thu Dec 3 12:06:05 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 13:06:05 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR3 front shock questions Message-ID: <2D85E69A-9B85-4068-960C-137B724D645D@icloud.com> Looking for alternatives to the off the shelf options, unfortunately I don?t have any used shocks on the shelf. Does anyone have the extended and compressed dimensions of the front shocks for the TR3? And since I?m asking, how about for the TR6 as I?ll be back to that project soon. Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone From spitlist at cox.net Thu Dec 3 12:24:11 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 12:24:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1564682299.8992.1607023451362@myemail.cox.net> Your best bet is a camber compensator. https://apex2apexmotorsports.com/shop/ols/products/camber-compensator-kit > On December 3, 2020 at 11:53 AM Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > > > > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. > > Thanks in advance > > Dennis Walje > 1968 GT6 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > > From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com Thu Dec 3 12:37:43 2020 From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 13:37:43 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Sorry Dennis, I don?t have your answer. But I?d like to piggy back on it. My 14 year old daughter and I are restoring her first car, a ?63 Herald. We?ll be upgrading to a warmed over Spitfire 1500 drive train and suspension/brakes. Any advice on the rear spring updating to the later camber compensator type? I?m hoping it?s a straight swap with a late Spitfire spring. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 281-871-9623 > On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > > ? > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. > > Thanks in advance > > Dennis Walje > 1968 GT6 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com > > From bownes at seiri.com Thu Dec 3 15:02:38 2020 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 17:02:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Squaretail w hardtop available Message-ID: Hey all, A flagger friend of mine deposited a squaretail Spit on me ~15 years ago for 'storage' while she underwent a nuclear divorce. It's been sitting next to my garage ever since and needs to go away. She doesn't want it back, her kid doesn't want it, and my wife really doesn't want it. So, available to the first one who's willing to come to sunny Troy NY to get it. As I said, it's been sitting in the same place for a Long Time and you get what you expect. Bring a winch and a trailer. :) Only financial requirement is you make a suitable donation to autox.team.net to support the list. Thanks! Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sm1ski at dslextreme.com Thu Dec 3 15:48:04 2020 From: sm1ski at dslextreme.com (kowalski) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 15:48:04 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Squaretail w hardtop available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31456d01-09ec-eab5-69f9-7b9e54215333@dslextreme.com> speaking of hardtops, does anybody want a roundtail hardtop?? The weatherstripping is gone but the glass is right here.? Just help with the shipping. mike kowalski raton, nm On 12/3/2020 3:02 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote: > > Hey all, > > A flagger friend of mine deposited a squaretail Spit on me ~15 years > ago for 'storage'? while she underwent a nuclear divorce. It's been > sitting next to my garage ever since and needs to go away. She doesn't > want it back, her kid doesn't want it, and my wife really doesn't want > it. > > So, available to the first one who's willing to come to sunny Troy NY > to get it. As I said, it's been sitting in the same place for a Long > Time and you get what you expect. Bring a winch and a trailer. :) > > Only financial requirement is you make a suitable donation to > autox.team.net to support the list. > > Thanks! > Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sm1ski at dslextreme.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 3 20:59:17 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 20:59:17 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> On 12/3/20 11:53 AM, Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. > As I recall the later style swing spring requires longer axles. mjb. From ofracer at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 06:18:57 2020 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 08:18:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Yes it does. I upgraded a 72 MKV Spitfire to a swing spring set up. Changes included the axles from a 1500, longer (flex) brake lines (upgraded to braided while I was there). I also had to make an adapter, IIRC, it was a 3/4" -1" D ring, to extend the parking brake cable. The car already had a 3.89 diff with the 4 stud vs 6 stud spring retainer on top. My son seems to like the way it handles, the race spit has spoiled me on street cars and cornering. mike h On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 11:02 PM Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > On 12/3/20 11:53 AM, Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > > Merry Christmas to all. > > > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 > GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 > GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner > performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably > due to replace. > > > > As I recall the later style swing spring requires longer axles. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Fri Dec 4 07:43:55 2020 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 14:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <240701336.2826368.1607093035808@mail.yahoo.com> swing springs do not require longer axles, that was a change they made a few years after the swing spring was added - my race Spit was updated to a swing spring, I also added the compensator back on after an event, car was much better - ran a compensator on my street Spit with the original early spring (same setup as GT6) - I personally am not a fan of the swing spring, they help but you end up with more roll n the rear (they're softer) RalphApex2Apex Motorsports On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 10:02:30 PM CST, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: On 12/3/20 11:53 AM, Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6?? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best?? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator?? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. > As I recall the later style swing spring requires longer axles. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Dec 4 08:27:10 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 15:27:10 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? Message-ID: So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local "pack-n-ship" store where it always seems to cost a mint? Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? Scott (B.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 08:58:24 2020 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 07:58:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You might try Fastenal. They do freight with their company trucks and it was very good pre COVID. Not sure what it is like now. Thanks, Chuck > On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:30 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: > > ? > So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? > > Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? > > Scott (B.) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Fri Dec 4 09:02:45 2020 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 16:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear shocks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <761912291.2848122.1607097765582@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Jason, Rimmer Bros has brackets you can buy to move the shock mounts on bodies that have rotted out wheel arc mounts - bolts to the frame where the upper shock bolts to it on roto cars - you could then use your current shocks - otherwise, standard Spit/GT shocks should work - they did the longer ones to clear the roto joints - best bet is to try and keep the shocks as upright as possible, provides better shock movement (up/down) and more direct response by the shock itself CheersRalph On Friday, December 4, 2020, 08:46:29 AM CST, Jason Sukey via Fot wrote: Greetings FOT,? ? ? ?On my GT6 MK3 racecar, (rotoflex halfshafts?have?been replaced with Datsun u-jointed shafts), I'd like to relocate the rear upper shock mount from the standard wheel arch sheet metal mount inboard to the frame, using the mounting points already there for the spitfire/gt6 swing axle shock mounts.? Since the big rotoflex joints aren't there, it looks like I'll have plenty of clearance.?? This will shorten the distance between mounting points significantly, I expect the Rotoflex length shocks will bottom out.? Does anyone know if the "off the shelf" swing axle length shocks (Koni or Spax) will work for this? Jason_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Dec 4 11:15:13 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 18:15:13 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the ideas everyone. If anyone's counting, that was three votes for Greyhound, one for Fastenal, two for UPS and one for yesterdaystractors.com. If you've got another idea, let me know. Thanks, Scott (B.) From: Barr, Scott Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:27 AM To: Amici Triumphi Subject: Shipping Options? So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local "pack-n-ship" store where it always seems to cost a mint? Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? Scott (B.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Dec 4 11:49:32 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 18:49:32 +0000 Subject: [Fot] FW: Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just want to share this one, since it?s an option I?d never even heard of before. Maybe it would be useful for others? Looking at the site, it seems like it would be pretty easy and useful if you?re not in any particular hurry. Scott (B.) From: Susan Kahler Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:44 AM To: Barr, Scott Subject: Re: [Fot] Shipping Options? Hi there! I have had success with having things hauled through (and sometimes hauling for) this site: https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/haulquery.pl, if it helps you. I hope you guys are doing well in this weird world! Susan :) On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 10:29 AM Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? Scott (B.) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfiresuz at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Fri Dec 4 12:19:46 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 12:19:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear shocks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1224082486.417024.1607109587056@myemail.cox.net> Without the rotating mass of the rotoflex joints, you should be able to use the same shocks as the non-rotoflex cars use, and the same attaching points. > On December 4, 2020 at 7:41 AM Jason Sukey via Fot wrote: > > Greetings FOT, > On my GT6 MK3 racecar, (rotoflex halfshafts have been replaced with Datsun u-jointed shafts), I'd like to relocate the rear upper shock mount from the standard wheel arch sheet metal mount inboard to the frame, using the mounting points already there for the spitfire/gt6 swing axle shock mounts. Since the big rotoflex joints aren't there, it looks like I'll have plenty of clearance. > > This will shorten the distance between mounting points significantly, I expect the Rotoflex length shocks will bottom out. Does anyone know if the "off the shelf" swing axle length shocks (Koni or Spax) will work for this? > > Jason > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Fri Dec 4 12:17:29 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 12:17:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear shocks In-Reply-To: <761912291.2848122.1607097765582@mail.yahoo.com> References: <761912291.2848122.1607097765582@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <324050796.416986.1607109449122@myemail.cox.net> If those are the same sort of brackets sold by the TSSC, the stockshocks won't work. You have to purchase a specific shock to use with that bracket. The shock mount brackets I designed will in fact use the stock Rotoflex shocks. http://www.spitlist.info/Shock.Mounts.htm Joe > On December 4, 2020 at 9:02 AM ralph hansen via Fot wrote: > > > Hello Jason, > > Rimmer Bros has brackets you can buy to move the shock mounts on bodies that have rotted out wheel arc mounts - bolts to the frame where the upper shock bolts to it on roto cars - you could then use your current shocks - otherwise, standard Spit/GT shocks should work - they did the longer ones to clear the roto joints - best bet is to try and keep the shocks as upright as possible, provides better shock movement (up/down) and more direct response by the shock itself > > > Cheers > Ralph > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 08:46:29 AM CST, Jason Sukey via Fot wrote: > > > Greetings FOT, > On my GT6 MK3 racecar, (rotoflex halfshafts have been replaced with Datsun u-jointed shafts), I'd like to relocate the rear upper shock mount from the standard wheel arch sheet metal mount inboard to the frame, using the mounting points already there for the spitfire/gt6 swing axle shock mounts. Since the big rotoflex joints aren't there, it looks like I'll have plenty of clearance. > > This will shorten the distance between mounting points significantly, I expect the Rotoflex length shocks will bottom out. Does anyone know if the "off the shelf" swing axle length shocks (Koni or Spax) will work for this? > > Jason > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Fri Dec 4 12:21:58 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 14:21:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> I shipped a Miata trans to be rebuilt this year via UPS for $150 (95#}. Since it was going to be shipped back me I bought and used a transmission shipping box (Amazon about $100). I have heard of people using igloo coolers to ship trans. Might be less than the fee to have pack and ship pack it? If you set up a UPS account you get lower shipping rates than retail. Joe B. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: > > ? > So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? > > Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? > > Scott (B.) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 4msonset at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 12:40:27 2020 From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 11:40:27 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> References: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Many years ago I had a rebuilt overdrive shipped to me in a cardboard box weight minimal packing material to protect it. It arrived with the part of the aluminum gear box that supports the stick shift snapped off. It had to have fallen hard. That cardboard box offered little protection. Do take the time to crate it up. If you?re handy, think about minimizing weight. I went overboard during that incident and built a heavy, heavy duty crate to ship the broken trans back in so that it?s replacement would be shipped back in that crate! No doubt, that extra weight cost money! (I don?t recall the shipper and costs.) Add handles or whatever helps to make it easier for shippers to move it safely. > On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Joe via Fot wrote: > > I shipped a Miata trans to be rebuilt this year via UPS for $150 (95#}. Since it was going to be shipped back me I bought and used a transmission shipping box (Amazon about $100). I have heard of people using igloo coolers to ship trans. Might be less than the fee to have pack and ship pack it? > > If you set up a UPS account you get lower shipping rates than retail. Joe B. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? >> >> Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? >> >> Scott (B.) >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/4msonset at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Fri Dec 4 13:20:42 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 20:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1590944055.2922592.1607113242407@mail.yahoo.com> HaHa this is minimal packing, a volvo block that was recently shipped to me UPS.Yeah, wrapped in plastic. Needless to say, it was returned.Shipper didn't understand how they could have broken it...Glen Efinger corner of the pan rail -----Original Message----- From: J Wagner via Fot To: Joe Cc: Amici Triumphi Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2020 2:40 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Shipping Options? Many years ago I had a rebuilt overdrive shipped to me in a cardboard box weight minimal packing material to protect it. ?It arrived with the part of the aluminum gear box that supports the stick shift snapped off. ? ?It had to have fallen hard. ?That cardboard box offered little protection. Do take the time to crate it up. ?If you?re handy, think about minimizing weight. ?I went overboard during that incident and built a heavy, heavy duty crate to ship the broken trans back in so that it?s replacement would be shipped back in that crate! ?No doubt, that extra weight cost money! ? (I don?t recall the shipper and costs.) Add handles or whatever helps to make it easier for shippers to move it safely. On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Joe via Fot wrote: I shipped a Miata trans to be rebuilt this year via UPS for $150 (95#}. ?Since it was going to be shipped back me I bought and used a transmission shipping box (Amazon about $100). ?I have heard of people using igloo coolers to ship trans. ?Might be less than the fee to have pack and ship pack it? If you set up a UPS account you get lower shipping rates than retail. ?Joe B.? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? #yiv9326600666 #yiv9326600666 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv9326600666 #yiv9326600666 p.yiv9326600666MsoNormal, #yiv9326600666 li.yiv9326600666MsoNormal, #yiv9326600666 div.yiv9326600666MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv9326600666 span.yiv9326600666EmailStyle17 {font-family:sans-serif;color:black;position:relative;letter-spacing:0pt;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}#yiv9326600666 .yiv9326600666MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv9326600666 div.yiv9326600666WordSection1 {}#yiv9326600666 So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio.? Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? ? Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? ? Scott (B.) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/4msonset at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I made steel corner brackets that were on the inside (since UPS does not like a lot of exposed metal) and used cap screws.? I secured the axle housing inside the crate.? I could have done the same for a transmission crate, but was too lazy to make the metal brackets.?? There is a UPS upcharge of about $5 for shipping a parcel that is not in cardboard.? JoeB On Friday, December 4, 2020, 02:40:33 PM EST, J Wagner <4msonset at gmail.com> wrote: Many years ago I had a rebuilt overdrive shipped to me in a cardboard box weight minimal packing material to protect it. ?It arrived with the part of the aluminum gear box that supports the stick shift snapped off. ? ?It had to have fallen hard. ?That cardboard box offered little protection. Do take the time to crate it up. ?If you?re handy, think about minimizing weight. ?I went overboard during that incident and built a heavy, heavy duty crate to ship the broken trans back in so that it?s replacement would be shipped back in that crate! ?No doubt, that extra weight cost money! ? (I don?t recall the shipper and costs.) Add handles or whatever helps to make it easier for shippers to move it safely. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Fri Dec 4 15:08:18 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 14:08:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: <1555953945.4566231.1607116233349@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> <1555953945.4566231.1607116233349@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1375180219.91070.1607119698657@connect.xfinity.com> I made a plywood box to ship a TR2-4 block. The plywood was bolted directly to the top, bottom, front and back of the block with the bolt heads recessed. I cut slotted holes to be used as handles. The box was only the thickness of the plywood against the flat surfaces larger than the block. It was very tight and secure. I think the total weight was around 150 lbs. If I remember correctly, the block weighs 140 lbs. with the main caps. Same weight as a bale of hay. In the end I did not have to ship it, but I still have the custom box. Dave H > On 12/04/2020 1:10 PM Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > > > I started out making a crate with 2x4s. Made the frame and then was going to cover it with plywood. Before I even got to the plywood, the crate weighed over 50#. I took it apart and bought the plastic transmission shipping box. > > When I shipped a TR3 rear axle for the Southwick conversion I made a plywood crate. I made steel corner brackets that were on the inside (since UPS does not like a lot of exposed metal) and used cap screws. I secured the axle housing inside the crate. I could have done the same for a transmission crate, but was too lazy to make the metal brackets. > > There is a UPS upcharge of about $5 for shipping a parcel that is not in cardboard. JoeB > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 02:40:33 PM EST, J Wagner <4msonset at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Many years ago I had a rebuilt overdrive shipped to me in a cardboard box weight minimal packing material to protect it. It arrived with the part of the aluminum gear box that supports the stick shift snapped off. It had to have fallen hard. That cardboard box offered little protection. > > Do take the time to crate it up. If you?re handy, think about minimizing weight. I went overboard during that incident and built a heavy, heavy duty crate to ship the broken trans back in so that it?s replacement would be shipped back in that crate! No doubt, that extra weight cost money! (I don?t recall the shipper and costs.) > > Add handles or whatever helps to make it easier for shippers to move it safely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertten1 at aol.com Sat Dec 5 20:03:13 2020 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 03:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <55353083.4876454.1607223793134@mail.yahoo.com> Amici, Herald to GT6 rear spring inquiries ???? Not sure if my experience will be of any help as in my search to find a suitable answer for my own Spitfire.? A tribute car to the factory endurance cars of '64 and '65 built around a GT6 body on a spitfire chassis.? I'm using a 4:11 diff with a quaife LSD and for the spring I am using a Composite Spring from Flex-A-Form out of South Carolina.? This spring is rated at 250 lbs. and is much lighter than the steel units available for our cars.?? With all the many options and ideas for set-ups and modifications for the rear springs one has to consider the final use for our car.? Mine is for autocrossing and the one thing that has helped the most was finally switching to this composite spring .? I have about 3 degrees of negative camber and the car corners flatter in the corners without the notorious inside wheel lift and tuck. Handling has much improved in the car, at least for this autocrosser.? I did not op for the camber compensator as ground clearance is reduced as I drive my car on the street occasionally.Of note, when used the late swing spring on my car I was also using a 3/4" thick spacer block between the diff and spring to help achieve the 3 degrees negative camber.?? Late Spit Swing Spring, heavy duty Spit spring, modified and de-cambered Spit and GT6 Springs these are the common offerings .? This composite spring is something different as well as some instance of coil over conversions done by some ingenious owners. Cheers and good luck,Bob T'64 Spit GT autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Walje via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 1:53 pm Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring Merry Christmas to all. Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6?? (Non roto-flex) I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. Any ideas on what is best?? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. How about a camber compensator?? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. Thanks in advance Dennis Walje 1968 GT6 Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Sat Dec 5 21:53:21 2020 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 14:53:21 +1000 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <55353083.4876454.1607223793134@mail.yahoo.com> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> <55353083.4876454.1607223793134@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On our race Gt6, we have a hybrid system. we have coil over shocks plus a single transverse leaf mainly to comply with rules that say the original spring location must remain!! years ago we tried a swing spring but did not like it on circuit Terry Australia On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Bob Totten via Fot wrote: > Amici, > > Herald to GT6 rear spring inquiries ??? Not sure if my experience will be > of any help as in my search to find a suitable answer for my own Spitfire. > A tribute car to the factory endurance cars of '64 and '65 built around a > GT6 body on a spitfire chassis. I'm using a 4:11 diff with a quaife LSD > and for the spring I am using a Composite Spring from Flex-A-Form out of > South Carolina. This spring is rated at 250 lbs. and is much lighter than > the steel units available for our cars. > > With all the many options and ideas for set-ups and modifications for the > rear springs one has to consider the final use for our car. Mine is for > autocrossing and the one thing that has helped the most was finally > switching to this composite spring . I have about 3 degrees of negative > camber and the car corners flatter in the corners without the notorious > inside wheel lift and tuck. Handling has much improved in the car, at least > for this autocrosser. I did not op for the camber compensator as ground > clearance is reduced as I drive my car on the street occasionally. > Of note, when used the late swing spring on my car I was also using a 3/4" > thick spacer block between the diff and spring to help achieve the 3 > degrees negative camber. > > Late Spit Swing Spring, heavy duty Spit spring, modified and de-cambered > Spit and GT6 Springs these are the common offerings . This composite > spring is something different as well as some instance of coil over > conversions done by some ingenious owners. > > Cheers and good luck, > Bob T > '64 Spit GT autocrosser > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Walje via Fot > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 1:53 pm > Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring > > > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 > GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. > The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner > performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due > to replace. > > Thanks in advance > > Dennis Walje > 1968 GT6 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They both could be vintage raced but would require removing the fiberglass to be legal.Thank you all for the interest and some of you with some specific parts request I will follow back up with you or hit me up again!Thanks Chris Crisenbery?Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walje at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 6 18:46:48 2020 From: walje at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Walje) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 19:46:48 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D2F50C4-808C-48F9-ACDD-2D464C95091E@sbcglobal.net> Thanks to all for responses on swing spring. I appreciate the great advice. I have ordered a camber compensator from Apex2Apex. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: > > ? > On our race Gt6, we have a hybrid system. we have coil over shocks plus a single transverse leaf mainly to comply with rules that say the original spring location must remain!! > > years ago we tried a swing spring but did not like it on circuit > > Terry > Australia > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Bob Totten via Fot wrote: >> Amici, >> >> Herald to GT6 rear spring inquiries ??? Not sure if my experience will be of any help as in my search to find a suitable answer for my own Spitfire. A tribute car to the factory endurance cars of '64 and '65 built around a GT6 body on a spitfire chassis. I'm using a 4:11 diff with a quaife LSD and for the spring I am using a Composite Spring from Flex-A-Form out of South Carolina. This spring is rated at 250 lbs. and is much lighter than the steel units available for our cars. >> >> With all the many options and ideas for set-ups and modifications for the rear springs one has to consider the final use for our car. Mine is for autocrossing and the one thing that has helped the most was finally switching to this composite spring . I have about 3 degrees of negative camber and the car corners flatter in the corners without the notorious inside wheel lift and tuck. Handling has much improved in the car, at least for this autocrosser. I did not op for the camber compensator as ground clearance is reduced as I drive my car on the street occasionally. >> Of note, when used the late swing spring on my car I was also using a 3/4" thick spacer block between the diff and spring to help achieve the 3 degrees negative camber. >> >> Late Spit Swing Spring, heavy duty Spit spring, modified and de-cambered Spit and GT6 Springs these are the common offerings . This composite spring is something different as well as some instance of coil over conversions done by some ingenious owners. >> >> Cheers and good luck, >> Bob T >> '64 Spit GT autocrosser >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dennis Walje via Fot >> To: fot at autox.team.net >> Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 1:53 pm >> Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring >> >> >> Merry Christmas to all. >> >> Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6? (Non roto-flex) >> >> I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. >> >> Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. >> >> How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Dennis Walje >> 1968 GT6 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walje at sbcglobal.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Mon Dec 7 11:34:17 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 12:34:17 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions Message-ID: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right? Seems excessive to me. Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPhone From dlhogye at comcast.net Mon Dec 7 12:32:35 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 11:32:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions In-Reply-To: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> References: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1598627704.103277.1607369556146@connect.xfinity.com> Hi Greg, The sleeve is usually loose on the pin. The manual says to not tighten the outer pin support bracket until the vehicle is on the ground and the suspension fully weighted. I always put a piece of blue or yellow painters tape on fasteners that aren't torqued or tightened right away as a reminder to go back to the later. Dave H. > On 12/07/2020 10:34 AM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > > > It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right? Seems excessive to me. > > Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? > > Thanks. > > Greg > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net From fubog1 at aol.com Mon Dec 7 13:08:49 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 20:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions In-Reply-To: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> References: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1826124956.3404307.1607371729768@mail.yahoo.com> The sleeve locks down when the nut is tightened, the nylon bushes pressed in the A-arms; the relative movement is between the steel OD & ID of the bush.Clearance between the ID of the steel & the pivot pin isn't part of the equation. Or I may be misunderstanding the concern...HTH Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake via Fot To: Fot Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 1:34 pm Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right?? Seems excessive to me. Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Mon Dec 7 13:36:52 2020 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:36:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions In-Reply-To: <1826124956.3404307.1607371729768@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> <1826124956.3404307.1607371729768@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1363517783.20528937.1607373412816.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Glen, I believe you are right, the steel bushes don't move or rotate on the pins. B.t.w. the nylon (Nylatron) bushes are ok and much better than the original rubber ones wich had to be replaced frequently. Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Maandag 7 december 2020 21:08:49 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions The sleeve locks down when the nut is tightened, the nylon bushes pressed in the A-arms; the relative movement is between the steel OD & ID of the bush. Clearance between the ID of the steel & the pivot pin isn't part of the equation. Or I may be misunderstanding the concern... HTH Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake via Fot To: Fot Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 1:34 pm Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right? Seems excessive to me. Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com ] _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Mon Dec 7 19:12:31 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:12:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions In-Reply-To: <1363517783.20528937.1607373412816.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <1363517783.20528937.1607373412816.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: While you have it apart, it would be a good idea to add grease fittings to the inner lower control arm pivots. It makes for squeak-free running. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:38 PM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot wrote: > > ? > Glen, I believe you are right, the steel bushes don't move or rotate on the pins. > B.t.w. the nylon (Nylatron) bushes are ok and much better than the original rubber ones wich had to be replaced frequently. > Marcel > > Van: "fot" > Aan: "fot" > Verzonden: Maandag 7 december 2020 21:08:49 > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions > > The sleeve locks down when the nut is tightened, the nylon bushes pressed in the A-arms; the relative movement is between the steel OD & ID of the bush. > Clearance between the ID of the steel & the pivot pin isn't part of the equation. > > Or I may be misunderstanding the concern... > HTH > > Glen Efinger > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Blake via Fot > To: Fot > Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 1:34 pm > Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions > > It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right? Seems excessive to me. > > Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? > > Thanks. > > Greg > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not talking about Triumph Parts. Might be useful information to the whole list. We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. Thank you, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From horizonracing at msn.com Wed Dec 9 08:37:21 2020 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 15:37:21 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 Best T Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > From steveadams55 at sky.com Wed Dec 9 08:42:38 2020 From: steveadams55 at sky.com (steveadams55 at sky.com) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 15:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1325052430.4788590.1607528558090@mail.yahoo.com> https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ Hi All,Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper.Pretty sure they ship worldwide best regards from across the pond? On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 Best T Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell:? 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: > > ? > https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ > > Hi All, > Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. > Pretty sure they ship worldwide > > best regards from across the pond > > On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: > > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > Best > T > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > > > ?For Example: > > > > Pegasus > > Summit > > Jegs > > Speedway Motors > > Racers Wholesale > > Etc. > > > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <95AEE3CE-85DD-4289-B43D-522CD07C3A4C@gmail.com> References: <95AEE3CE-85DD-4289-B43D-522CD07C3A4C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> Summit Speedway Pegasus Racer parts wholesale Seymour Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that they are going exclusive to ebay sales. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: >>> >> ? >> https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ >> >> Hi All, >> Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. >> Pretty sure they ship worldwide >> >> best regards from across the pond >> >> On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . >> While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . >> I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 >> >> Best >> T >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> > >> > ?For Example: >> > >> > Pegasus >> > Summit >> > Jegs >> > Speedway Motors >> > Racers Wholesale >> > Etc. >> > >> > Not talking about Triumph Parts. >> > >> > Might be useful information to the whole list. >> > >> > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. >> > >> > Thank you, >> > >> > >> > Joe Alexander >> > 4505 Donald Dr >> > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> > The-vintage-racer.com >> > Gasketinnovations.com >> > Cell: 319.464.4711 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com >> >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Wed Dec 9 08:55:11 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 15:55:11 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> References: <95AEE3CE-85DD-4289-B43D-522CD07C3A4C@gmail.com> <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> Message-ID: Pegasus Spitbits From: Fot On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 9:53 AM To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. Summit Speedway Pegasus Racer parts wholesale Seymour Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that they are going exclusive to ebay sales. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: ? https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ Hi All, Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. Pretty sure they ship worldwide best regards from across the pond On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot > wrote: Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 Best T Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > > ?For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bschirano1 at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 09:54:55 2020 From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:54:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: yup, by end of 21 helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220 , my Bell is $500 and seems never on sale Brian add OG Racing Pegasus Summit Jegs Racers Wholesale On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com > > > -- Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Wed Dec 9 10:10:33 2020 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (kekjacobsen) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 11:10:33 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If your Bell fits the shape of your head, the GFORCE won't.? ?Jake's? helmet does not work for me & he has issues with his eyeglasses underneath, and I don't.?KarenSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Brian Schirano via Fot Date: 12/9/20 10:55 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. yup, by end of 21? helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220, my Bell is $500 and seems never on saleBrianadd OG RacingPegasusSummitJegsRacers Wholesale??On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote:For Example: Pegasus Summit Jegs Speedway Motors Racers Wholesale Etc. Not talking about Triumph Parts. Might be useful information to the whole list. We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. Thank you, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com -- Brian Schirano585-305-0349 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Wed Dec 9 10:18:46 2020 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 17:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <20201209171117.86ACFA0793@autox.team.net> References: <20201209171117.86ACFA0793@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <502401265.3888603.1607534326801@mail.yahoo.com> in ref to the comment on helmets fitting or not - having spent 4 years as buyer at Pegasus a few decades back, we called it like this, some people have a Bell head, some a Simpson - different manufacturers helmets, same size etc are usually sligthly different in shape, best to stick with the brand you know fits unless you can walk in and try them on on a side note: I do have access to many of the same items Pegasus and a few others have available on a drop ship to you basis - will also give a FOT discount if possible - am in process of putting together a line card of whats available -- need it in a big hurry, go elsewhere, got a little time try me, I'd appreciate the biz and will do whatever I can to help, one racer to another (semi-retired GT2/3 current, Spit way back when and a few between) RalphApex2Apex Motorsportsapex2apexmotorsports at yahoo.com On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 11:11:18 AM CST, kekjacobsen via Fot wrote: If your Bell fits the shape of your head, the GFORCE won't.? ?Jake's? helmet does not work for me & he has issues with his eyeglasses underneath, and I don't.?Karen Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Brian Schirano via Fot Date: 12/9/20 10:55 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. yup, by end of 21? helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220, my Bell is $500 and seems never on sale Brian add OG Racing Pegasus Summit Jegs Racers Wholesale?? On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: For Example: Pegasus Summit Jegs Speedway Motors Racers Wholesale Etc. Not talking about Triumph Parts. Might be useful information to the whole list. We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. Thank you, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com -- Brian Schirano585-305-0349_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Dec 9 10:32:15 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:32:15 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <36655fc2-d803-c4b6-0fe6-b5fdc82760da@tonydrews.com> I've used both, both worked fine.? One had a short chin strap which caused me to replace, forget if that was a Bell or a G-Force.? The Bell has more robust visor hardware.? I thought the G-Force had better ventilation. It's ideal if you can try the fit before buying, I didn't have that option but it ended up OK. I always buy ones with big eye holes because I wear glasses. Regards, Tony Drews On 12/9/2020 10:54 AM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: > yup, by end of 21? helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go > shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had > started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force > SA2020 is on sale $220 , my Bell is $500 > and seems never on sale > > Brian > > add OG Racing > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Racers Wholesale > > > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot > > wrote: > > For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell:? 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage > : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Brian Schirano > 585-305-0349 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hpspitfire at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 10:34:25 2020 From: hpspitfire at gmail.com (Aaron Johnson) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:34:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: References: <95AEE3CE-85DD-4289-B43D-522CD07C3A4C@gmail.com> <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> Message-ID: I've been using Pit Stop USA - they have great prices, reasonable/free shipping and speed is good. just bought my sa2015 bell dominator 2 on sale for $545 bucks, free delivery and no taxes. aaron On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: > Pegasus > > Spitbits > > > > *From:* Fot *On Behalf Of *Phil Gott via Fot > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 09, 2020 9:53 AM > *To:* Joe Alexander > *Cc:* fot at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts > and supplies. > > > > Summit > > Speedway > > Pegasus > > Racer parts wholesale > > Seymour > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > > ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that > they are going exclusive to ebay sales. > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: > > ? > > https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ > > > > > Hi All, > > Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally > that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from > the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. > > Pretty sure they ship worldwide > > > > best regards from across the pond > > > > On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot > wrote: > > > > > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk > faster . > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on > ? shipping? . > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > Best > T > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > > > > ?For Example: > > > > Pegasus > > Summit > > Jegs > > Speedway Motors > > Racers Wholesale > > Etc. > > > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/hpspitfire at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grandwazoo at earthlink.net Wed Dec 9 10:44:42 2020 From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:44:42 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. Message-ID: <1243490174.3464.1607535882404@wamui-hyena.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 12:04:09 2020 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:04:09 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <1325052430.4788590.1607528558090@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1325052430.4788590.1607528558090@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: All of those plus Jegs... Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:42 AM, steveadams55--- via Fot wrote: > > ? > https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ > > Hi All, > Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. > Pretty sure they ship worldwide > > best regards from across the pond > > On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: > > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > Best > T > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > > > ?For Example: > > > > Pegasus > > Summit > > Jegs > > Speedway Motors > > Racers Wholesale > > Etc. > > > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Dec 9 12:56:36 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 13:56:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts Message-ID: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question...? My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them.? I have a 5 point harness.? Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point harness with two crotch straps.? Of course I have ONE hole in my seat and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? Thanks, Tony Drews From garygret at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 9 13:41:49 2020 From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 20:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> References: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> Tony,Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever seen.) I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 points but none require it. Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with any other organizations you run with. Cheers,Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question...? My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them.? I have a 5 point harness.? Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point harness with two crotch straps.? Of course I have ONE hole in my seat and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Wed Dec 9 13:47:50 2020 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 20:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1217630503.3954600.1607546870350@mail.yahoo.com> Tony,I have my 6-points going through the one seat hole then angle out from the center and attached separately through the floor. Never had any tech issues with a number of sanctioning bodies (VARA, CVAR, SVRA, VSCDA).? Jake On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 02:42:45 PM CST, Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Tony,Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever seen.) I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 points but none require it. Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with any other organizations you run with. Cheers,Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question...? My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them.? I have a 5 point harness.? Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point harness with two crotch straps.? Of course I have ONE hole in my seat and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? 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URL: From afterapex at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 13:52:01 2020 From: afterapex at gmail.com (greg powell) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:52:01 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9E293E30-F9A1-46C5-AF56-C724182E8E8E@gmail.com> My advice would be to purchase belts that meet or exceed the racing organization's rules and then install them to follow exactly the specifications of the manufacturer. I bet that one anchor point for 2 sub belts is not per manufacturer spec to offer the protection of a 5-point harness only. Greg in Oakland, CA > On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: > > Tony, > Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever seen.) > > I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 points but none require it. > > Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with any other organizations you run with. > > > Cheers, > Gary Schneider > > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > > > The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question... > My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them. I have a 5 > point harness. Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point > harness with two crotch straps. Of course I have ONE hole in my seat > and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. > > How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/afterapex at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Dec 9 17:39:18 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 19:39:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: <9E293E30-F9A1-46C5-AF56-C724182E8E8E@gmail.com> References: <9E293E30-F9A1-46C5-AF56-C724182E8E8E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <67DF3DF9-64F4-4814-B082-0E14B8BD7FFF@aol.com> Speaking of belts, if you use the clip-in style, be sure to insert a cotter or split pin in the moveable latch as a safety measure. The pin keeps the latch in place if the spring breaks. Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 3:52 PM, greg powell via Fot wrote: > > ? > My advice would be to purchase belts that meet or exceed the racing organization's rules and then install them to follow exactly the specifications of the manufacturer. > > I bet that one anchor point for 2 sub belts is not per manufacturer spec to offer the protection of a 5-point harness only. > Greg in Oakland, CA > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: >> >> Tony, >> Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever seen.) >> >> I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 points but none require it. >> >> Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with any other organizations you run with. >> >> >> Cheers, >> Gary Schneider >> >> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: >> >> >> The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question... >> My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them. I have a 5 >> point harness. Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point >> harness with two crotch straps. Of course I have ONE hole in my seat >> and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. >> >> How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? >> >> Thanks, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/afterapex at gmail.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPad > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > Best > T > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> ?For Example: >> >> Pegasus >> Summit >> Jegs >> Speedway Motors >> Racers Wholesale >> Etc. >> >> Not talking about Triumph Parts. >> >> Might be useful information to the whole list. >> >> We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > From rkramer56 at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 05:52:34 2020 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 06:52:34 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <839329C0-2F66-470C-ACEE-02098E295807@comcast.net> References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> <839329C0-2F66-470C-ACEE-02098E295807@comcast.net> Message-ID: All things being equal it is important to support our niche suppliers. BFE, TSI, GoodParts and many others come to mind, as two that I buy from. I also have to consider Sales Tax in the calculation. Summit has an operation in Texas so everything I buy from them is taxed 8.25%. My daughter lives a few miles away from the showroom and I have made multiple trips to pick up stuff, tax and all. It is a cool place to visit. I think I have used about 90% of the mentioned suppliers over the years. and my list is very familiar: I out them in the order of the dollars I guess I've spent with each. Speedway Motors Summit Racing Jeg's Pegasus PitStop USA We, as a group, are probably not as big a customer base niche for the Triumph suppliers who focus on street cars but they do carry parts we need. I used to buy everything I could from the Roadster Factory but my business with them shrinks unless I am building a car. They are still my favorite supplier but I have used Moss more lately. I can find some stuff I can't get elsewhere from Moss UK and do the occasional business with Racetorations and Cambridge Motorsports. Bob Kramer On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:48 PM Dave via Fot wrote: > I like Summit because selection is huge and shipping is free over $100 and > I can often get the items the next day if they come from Reno. However, > sometimes the item and description is difficult to find, I have to look to > the manufacturer first to find the exact part and correct number, which > usually translates to the Summit number. > Pegasus is good for certain items not found at Summit. > Cheers, > Dave H. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk > faster . > > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors > on ? shipping? . > > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > > > Best > > T > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > >> > >> ?For Example: > >> > >> Pegasus > >> Summit > >> Jegs > >> Speedway Motors > >> Racers Wholesale > >> Etc. > >> > >> Not talking about Triumph Parts. > >> > >> Might be useful information to the whole list. > >> > >> We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> > >> Joe Alexander > >> 4505 Donald Dr > >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > >> The-vintage-racer.com > >> Gasketinnovations.com > >> Cell: 319.464.4711 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Thu Dec 10 07:07:14 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:07:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> References: <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> Message-ID: <7E3BE154-C8AC-4E1E-A764-3A316933894B@yahoo.com> Summit, Pegasus, and Pit Stop US, mostly for me. If you are ever traveling thru NE Ohio, Summit is worth the stop. Quite the candy store. I have also bought from Behrents, which is about 80 miles NW of NYC. They have a well stocked retail store. Nice that you can check things out, try them on, etc. Joe B Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > ?Summit > Speedway > Pegasus > Racer parts wholesale > Seymour > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> >> ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that they are going exclusive to ebay sales. >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: >>>> >>> ? >>> https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ >>> >>> Hi All, >>> Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. >>> Pretty sure they ship worldwide >>> >>> best regards from across the pond >>> >>> On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . >>> While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . >>> I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 >>> >>> Best >>> T >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> > >>> > ?For Example: >>> > >>> > Pegasus >>> > Summit >>> > Jegs >>> > Speedway Motors >>> > Racers Wholesale >>> > Etc. >>> > >>> > Not talking about Triumph Parts. >>> > >>> > Might be useful information to the whole list. >>> > >>> > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. >>> > >>> > Thank you, >>> > >>> > >>> > Joe Alexander >>> > 4505 Donald Dr >>> > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> > The-vintage-racer.com >>> > Gasketinnovations.com >>> > Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > fot at autox.team.net >>> > >>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>> > >>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com >>> >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfetta95 at optonline.net Thu Dec 10 07:44:41 2020 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:44:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <7E3BE154-C8AC-4E1E-A764-3A316933894B@yahoo.com> References: <7E3BE154-C8AC-4E1E-A764-3A316933894B@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1E78DCFB-D362-4504-AE30-A08694AAE38C@optonline.net> To all: I use Bruce?s Speed Shop in Rockaway NJ. They carry or can get just about anything we need. Usually at better prices You can also try on Helmets to get the best fit. Also use Pegasus Racer Parts Wholesale Summit Todd > On Dec 10, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Joe via Fot wrote: > > ?Summit, Pegasus, and Pit Stop US, mostly for me. If you are ever traveling thru NE Ohio, Summit is worth the stop. Quite the candy store. > > I have also bought from Behrents, which is about 80 miles NW of NYC. They have a well stocked retail store. Nice that you can check things out, try them on, etc. > Joe B > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>> >> ?Summit >> Speedway >> Pegasus >> Racer parts wholesale >> Seymour >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>>> >>> ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that they are going exclusive to ebay sales. >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> >>>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: >>>>> >>>> ? >>>> https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. >>>> Pretty sure they ship worldwide >>>> >>>> best regards from across the pond >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . >>>> While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . >>>> I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 >>>> >>>> Best >>>> T >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>>> > >>>> > ?For Example: >>>> > >>>> > Pegasus >>>> > Summit >>>> > Jegs >>>> > Speedway Motors >>>> > Racers Wholesale >>>> > Etc. >>>> > >>>> > Not talking about Triumph Parts. >>>> > >>>> > Might be useful information to the whole list. >>>> > >>>> > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. >>>> > >>>> > Thank you, >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Joe Alexander >>>> > 4505 Donald Dr >>>> > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>>> > The-vintage-racer.com >>>> > Gasketinnovations.com >>>> > Cell: 319.464.4711 >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > fot at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> > >>>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220, my Bell is $500 and seems never on sale Brian add OG Racing Pegasus Summit Jegs Racers Wholesale?? On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: For Example: Pegasus Summit Jegs Speedway Motors Racers Wholesale Etc. Not talking about Triumph Parts. Might be useful information to the whole list. We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. 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URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Fri Dec 11 07:58:47 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 06:58:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <1555516050.6888290.1607659473608@mail.yahoo.com> References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> <1555516050.6888290.1607659473608@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <565463581.110842.1607698727696@connect.xfinity.com> Sometimes, inexpensive and cheap mean the same thing. Dave H. > On 12/10/2020 8:04 PM Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > > > My son had a G-force helmet, which is expiring now, but did not hold up well. The side pads had been falling off for years. Often when putting the helmet on, a pad would be knocked loose and he would need to take it off the try to secure the pad in, on the false grid. I never had any such issues with my Bell helmets. His new helmet is a Bell. Joe B > > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 11:56:04 AM EST, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: > > > yup, by end of 21 helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220 https://www.ogracing.com/ , my Bell is $500 and seems never on sale > > Brian > > add OG Racing > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Racers Wholesale > > > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > For Example: > > > > Pegasus > > Summit > > Jegs > > Speedway Motors > > Racers Wholesale > > Etc. > > > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage > > : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Brian Schirano > 585-305-0349 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Dec 17 18:54:15 2020 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 19:54:15 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? References: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> Might have a buyer. Thanks, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From mikegranat9 at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 21:31:45 2020 From: mikegranat9 at gmail.com (Mike Granat) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 20:31:45 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? In-Reply-To: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> References: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460.ref@cs.com> <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> Message-ID: Hi Joe, Tony Garmey has a beaut! I have raced against it in my +4 and it is strong, fast, and reliable. Mike On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 5:59 PM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > Might have a buyer. > > Thanks, > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mikegranat9 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Fri Dec 18 10:59:09 2020 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 10:59:09 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? In-Reply-To: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> References: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460.ref@cs.com> <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> Message-ID: <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> Anyone else miss the origins of this thread but wish they?d seen it? > On Dec 17, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > Might have a buyer. > > Thanks, > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) From terrysopher at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 11:51:26 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 13:51:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? In-Reply-To: <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> References: <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> Message-ID: <493E7A50-FB87-42D4-8099-19416B272699@gmail.com> Yep! > On Dec 18, 2020, at 13:02, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: > > ?Anyone else miss the origins of this thread but wish they?d seen it? > > >> On Dec 17, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> Might have a buyer. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >> >> > > Bud Rolofson > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From horizonracing at msn.com Fri Dec 18 12:01:34 2020 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 19:01:34 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Message-ID: A reluctant sale ... Incredibly clean car ! All the ? right? bits in the right places . Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 Thanks [cid:41564FE0-BBDF-4503-A378-FBCE65C73E02] Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0397.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 153228 bytes Desc: IMG_0397.JPG URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 12:46:23 2020 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 14:46:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How about a summary of the "bits" and some lap times? Thanks John Styduhar On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:07 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > A reluctant sale ... > > Incredibly clean car ! > > All the ? right? bits in the right places . > > > > Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! > Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 > > Thanks > > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks John Styduhar > >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:07 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: >> A reluctant sale ... >> >> Incredibly clean car ! >> >> All the ? right? bits in the right places . >> >> >> >> Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! >> Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/agb at compsnw.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Fri Dec 18 13:20:56 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 13:20:56 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? In-Reply-To: <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> References: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460.ref@cs.com> <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9a04e2e3-c405-3a84-6ebf-e4bf01a22e28@bradakis.com> On 12/18/20 10:59 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: > Anyone else miss the origins of this thread but wish they?d seen it? > > Odd.? It looks like all the related posts are in the archives ( link below, for real time readers ).? Wish I knew what was happening, if it is something on my end or yours? mjb. From atr6racer at hotmail.com Fri Dec 18 14:07:57 2020 From: atr6racer at hotmail.com (Sam Halkias) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 21:07:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Fw: TR4 body In-Reply-To: <968761152.2314139.1608320062863@mail.yahoo.com> References: <968761152.2314139.1608320062863.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <968761152.2314139.1608320062863@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A good friend of mine came across this TR4 body. If anyone has any interest please contact John Mills, Sam Halkias ________________________________ From: John Mills Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 2:34 PM To: Sam Halkias ; Robert Johns Subject: TR4 body Do you guys know of anyone interested in this? I don't know the guy but it caught my attention . Triumph TR4A body tub and parts [https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/23/logos/facebook.png] Triumph TR4A body tub and parts Triumph TR4A body tub, its not perfect, needs some repair work, rockers need repaired/replaced, also have tons o... 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Triumph TR4A body tub and parts > > > Triumph TR4A body tub and parts > > Triumph TR4A body tub, its not perfect, needs some repair work, rockers > need repaired/replaced, also have tons o... > > > > > > > > *John Mills * > > *http://www.johnmillsracing.com* > *http://www.johnmillstbi.com* > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com Fri Dec 18 14:40:52 2020 From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 15:40:52 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> Amici, It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 1955 EP TR3 #72 281-871-9623 From dlhogye at comcast.net Fri Dec 18 14:54:55 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 13:54:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <275143156.146748.1608328495688@connect.xfinity.com> Here is the TR4 in action during the 2016 Sonoma Kastner Cup qualifying race. The car is really nice...and fast. Dave H. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vjXmt3TItw&t=224s > On 12/18/2020 11:46 AM John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > > How about a summary of the "bits" and some lap times? Thanks John Styduhar > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:07 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > A reluctant sale ... > > > > Incredibly clean car ! > > > > All the ? right? bits in the right places . > > > > > > > > Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! > > Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks John Styduhar > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:07 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > A reluctant sale ... > > > > Incredibly clean car ! > > > > All the ? right? bits in the right places . > > > > > > > > Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! > > Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Mike On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > Amici, > > It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not > finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. > > I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low > profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to > exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. > About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with > motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any > idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, > but I?d rather not pay for custom. > > Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size > for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of > compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or > photos. > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com > > > -- *Mike Deweerd* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lotusgagne at rogers.com Fri Dec 18 15:17:41 2020 From: lotusgagne at rogers.com (CLAUDE GAGNE) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 22:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3544765.1558257.1608329861468@mail.yahoo.com> I have owned a 7x14 Neo motorcycle trailer for 10 years and am very happy with it. All aluminum, low roof (less than 6 ft) so tows real nice with my small pick-up truck. Enough room for a small car. No affiliation, just a happy customer! See:?https://neotrailers.com/trailer_nam.php Claude? On Friday, December 18, 2020, 05:06:58 p.m. EST, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote: Why not enclose your open trailer??Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car.?Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol?More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer.?Cheers?Mike? On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: Amici, It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. 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URL: From rek46 at aol.com Fri Dec 18 15:32:07 2020 From: rek46 at aol.com (rek46) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 22:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> how much??In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:? Why not enclose your open trailer??Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car.?Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol?More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer.?Cheers?Mike? On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: Amici, It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 1955 EP TR3 #72 281-871-9623 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com -- Mike Deweerd_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com Sat Dec 19 11:41:30 2020 From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 18:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <355392267.2547618.1608403290228@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks everyone for the ideas on a low profile enclosed trailer and for those of you inquiring about my open trailer for sale.? Here are the details: - Custom built 2010 - All aluminum (except for steel tongue) - 24.5' total length, 16.5' bed, 4' tool box - Electric brakes - Tires about 3 or 4 years old - Axles are about a foot further back than normal which makes for very smooth towing with lots of tongue weight.? Even empty I can't pick up the tongue by myself. - Cost $10,000 to have made.? Will sell for $5,000. - Houston, Texas - Photo attached Thanks,Dusty Nicholson1955 EP TR3 #72281-871-9623 On Friday, December 18, 2020, 04:33:18 PM CST, rek46 via Fot wrote: how much??In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:? Why not enclose your open trailer??Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car.?Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol?More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer.?Cheers?Mike? On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: Amici, It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 1955 EP TR3 #72 281-871-9623 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com -- Mike Deweerd_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I liked the idea but not the execution, if I hadn?t already built my airstream hauler I would have built a trailer like yours with a streamlined aluminum nose (just V-shaped) with an aluminum roof, fabric sides and an aluminum back door/ramp. There is a light low profile trailer designed by Pete Brock called the Aerovault. Kind of cool but I?m too tall to want one. https://www.bre2.net/aerovault.info/ > On Dec 19, 2020, at 10:41 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the ideas on a low profile enclosed trailer and for those of you inquiring about my open trailer for sale. Here are the details: > > Custom built 2010 > All aluminum (except for steel tongue) > 24.5' total length, 16.5' bed, 4' tool box > Electric brakes > Tires about 3 or 4 years old > Axles are about a foot further back than normal which makes for very smooth towing with lots of tongue weight. Even empty I can't pick up the tongue by myself. > Cost $10,000 to have made. Will sell for $5,000. > Houston, Texas > Photo attached > Thanks, > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > > > On Friday, December 18, 2020, 04:33:18 PM CST, rek46 via Fot wrote: > > > how much? > > In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: > > Why not enclose your open trailer? > Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car. > Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol > More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer. > Cheers > Mike > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot > wrote: > Amici, > > It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. > > I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. > > Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com > > > -- > Mike Deweerd > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ponobill at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 12:33:20 2020 From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:33:20 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: <355392267.2547618.1608403290228@mail.yahoo.com> References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> <355392267.2547618.1608403290228@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The price is a bit of a mystery, but one sold on Bring A Trailer recently for 21K https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2013-peter-brock-bre-bre-aerovault-mark-1-trailer/ > On Dec 19, 2020, at 10:41 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the ideas on a low profile enclosed trailer and for those of you inquiring about my open trailer for sale. Here are the details: > > Custom built 2010 > All aluminum (except for steel tongue) > 24.5' total length, 16.5' bed, 4' tool box > Electric brakes > Tires about 3 or 4 years old > Axles are about a foot further back than normal which makes for very smooth towing with lots of tongue weight. Even empty I can't pick up the tongue by myself. > Cost $10,000 to have made. Will sell for $5,000. > Houston, Texas > Photo attached > Thanks, > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > > > On Friday, December 18, 2020, 04:33:18 PM CST, rek46 via Fot wrote: > > > how much? > > In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: > > Why not enclose your open trailer? > Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car. > Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol > More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer. > Cheers > Mike > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot > wrote: > Amici, > > It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. > > I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. > > Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com > > > -- > Mike Deweerd > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fmccjr at aol.com Sat Dec 19 13:38:58 2020 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:38:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> <355392267.2547618.1608403290228@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I looked for a a lightweight all aluminum trailer for quite a while before settling on a Montrose 18 footer with 6? ceiling. I looked at pretty much everything and considered an enclosed Trailex (I?ve got an open Trailex- lightweight and made well), but I wanted a drop down ramp. Trailex didn?t do this as of 2018. Deal breaker. The trailer had to fit cars as wide as my Esprit V8, and as long as my XJS. It has a pass side (camper style) door and a huge awning door on the driver side so you can get t out of a closed car. I ordered 4 corner jacks so when I stay at the track on race weekends, the ?Casa Azul? is level. Makes for a better nights sleep! Montrose trailers all open in the front like a snowmobile trailer (they started making snowmobile trailers in 1971) and mine tipped the scales at 2150 before I began my customizing. It left a little over 19k hole in my pocket. The website is a challenge, but they will build whatever you want. Apparently, I was the first customer to ask for blue. I really like mine. The Aerovault is around 30k by the time you finish the wish list. Trailex, around 28. Good luck with your search! Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY > On Dec 19, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Ponostyle via Fot wrote: > > The price is a bit of a mystery, but one sold on Bring A Trailer recently for 21K > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2013-peter-brock-bre-bre-aerovault-mark-1-trailer/ > > >> On Dec 19, 2020, at 10:41 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: >> >> Thanks everyone for the ideas on a low profile enclosed trailer and for those of you inquiring about my open trailer for sale. Here are the details: >> >> Custom built 2010 >> All aluminum (except for steel tongue) >> 24.5' total length, 16.5' bed, 4' tool box >> Electric brakes >> Tires about 3 or 4 years old >> Axles are about a foot further back than normal which makes for very smooth towing with lots of tongue weight. Even empty I can't pick up the tongue by myself. >> Cost $10,000 to have made. Will sell for $5,000. >> Houston, Texas >> Photo attached >> Thanks, >> Dusty Nicholson >> 1955 EP TR3 #72 >> 281-871-9623 >> >> >> On Friday, December 18, 2020, 04:33:18 PM CST, rek46 via Fot wrote: >> >> >> how much? >> >> In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: >> >> Why not enclose your open trailer? >> Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car. >> Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol >> More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer. >> Cheers >> Mike >> >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: >> Amici, >> >> It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. >> >> I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. >> >> Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dusty Nicholson >> 1955 EP TR3 #72 >> 281-871-9623 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage >> : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> Mike Deweerd >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 1955 EP TR3 #72 281-871-9623 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 21 10:29:46 2020 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS DELAP) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:29:46 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Cam identification References: Message-ID: A M I C I I am trying to identify a TR4/3 cam that I got from Kent Howard many years ago. It is a regrind with the markings D9 and Y.2K stamped into the end. Is Crower still out there? Thanks Dennis Sent from my iPhone From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Wed Dec 23 11:23:41 2020 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:23:41 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 1954 XMAS card Message-ID: <5b5b03da52c4e31261b334b88681ac9c156f44cd@webmail> >From Cal Sales western USA distributor winter 1954 best to all Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Dorothy Xmas TR.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1705639 bytes Desc: not available URL: From zoboherald at aol.com Wed Dec 23 23:42:05 2020 From: zoboherald at aol.com (Andrew S. Mace) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 06:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] 1954 XMAS card In-Reply-To: <5b5b03da52c4e31261b334b88681ac9c156f44cd@webmail> References: <5b5b03da52c4e31261b334b88681ac9c156f44cd@webmail> Message-ID: <1712097435.4083423.1608792125192@mail.yahoo.com> Great card...but I can't believe they misspelled "Aurthur"! :o --AndyAndrew Mace -----Original Message----- From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com To: 'fot at autox.team.net' ; 'triumphs at autox.team.net' Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2020 1:23 pm Subject: [TR] 1954 XMAS card >From Cal Sales western USA distributor winter 1954 ? best to all? Tom** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/zoboherald at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Dec 25 06:09:27 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 08:09:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> Jerry; We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks. I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. Merry Christmas!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: > > ? > I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. > JVV > > From: glewis999 at aol.com > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM > To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Yes, > Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > > I run a > thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New > seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting > worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. > > My > question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using > the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on > the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. > Has anyone found a double lip seal > replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference > P/N? > > Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New > Year has to be better than 2020. > > JVV > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Fri Dec 25 07:37:45 2020 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:37:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> Message-ID: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> On 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: "Jerry Van Vlack" Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net, "fot" , glewis999 at aol.com Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Jerry; We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks. I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. Merry Christmas!!! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: BQ_BEGIN I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. JVV From: glewis999 at aol.com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: [ http://mail.mobile.aol.com/ | mail.mobile.aol.com ] On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: BQ_BEGIN I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs | http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs ] [ http://www.team.net/archive | http://www.team.net/archive ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com ] BQ_END _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com BQ_END _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Dec 25 07:54:17 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 09:54:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <11B6A028-9455-4F3F-8A81-65ECDA038E97@aol.com> Good point, Marcel. I have had oil pan leaks due to the same phenomenon. Spot welds where the windage tray attaches to the pan. Oil splashed onto the exhaust on left hand turns. Caught fire, but the fire went out on the straights and into the pits. Really baffled us (and the corner workers) for several sessions...! Merry Christmas! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 25, 2020, at 9:37 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote: > > ? > On 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. > Marcel > Van: "fot" > Aan: "Jerry Van Vlack" > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net, "fot" , glewis999 at aol.com > Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27 > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Jerry; > We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks. > I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. > Merry Christmas!!! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: > > I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. > JVV > > From: glewis999 at aol.com > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM > To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Yes, > Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > > I run a > thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New > seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting > worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. > > My > question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using > the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on > the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. > Has anyone found a double lip seal > replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference > P/N? > > Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New > Year has to be better than 2020. > > JVV > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Dec 25 08:48:35 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:48:35 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: I?ve seen that too but that?s not my issue at least for now. What does the future hold? From: van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 9:37 AM To: Phil Gott Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak On 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. Marcel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Van: "fot" Aan: "Jerry Van Vlack" Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net, "fot" , glewis999 at aol.com Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Jerry; We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks. I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. Merry Christmas!!! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. JVV From: glewis999 at aol.com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Fri Dec 25 09:06:14 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <0C8A5E7BD30A4AFC9376DA3CD60F1ED2@VlackTK121647> References: <0C8A5E7BD30A4AFC9376DA3CD60F1ED2@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <521799640.4384944.1608912374519@mail.yahoo.com> Jerry, I am using a thin belt Harmonic damper that I got from BFE years ago.? It has spacer that goes against the slinger and the joint where the damper meets the spacer is right about where the seal lip is.? I found a double lip seal, but that was 10 years ago and I can't find my records of what it is.? If I come across it, I will post it.? Joe B.? On Friday, December 25, 2020, 07:44:47 AM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. ?My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N??Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020.?JVV_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Fri Dec 25 10:50:59 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:50:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: On 12/25/20 7:37 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot wrote: > On? 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the > cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was > located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. If the timing chain tensioner breaks so that you have a rough edge riding against the cover, rather than a smooth curve, it will eventually machine a slot into the cover.? I've had it happen on some Spitfire engines. mjb. From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Fri Dec 25 12:28:14 2020 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:28:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <678739777.33362502.1608924494123.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Hi Mark, I forgot about the cause. Indeed there was a broken chain tensioner. These tensioners are so flimsy, I wonder if they do much of a job. If the chain is running quiet, the surface of the tensioner remains smooth. A broken tensioner, but also deep ridges, sometimes in a short time, are proof that the chain was slapping on it. This happens when the sprockets are not perfectly in line as is often the case when a billet steel crankshaft is fitted. A wobbling chain means also that the ignition advance is not stable with some loss of power. It shows with a stroboscope light. But this is starting to look like a lesson, sorry! Marcel ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 18:50:59 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak On 12/25/20 7:37 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot wrote: > On? 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the > cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was > located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. If the timing chain tensioner breaks so that you have a rough edge riding against the cover, rather than a smooth curve, it will eventually machine a slot into the cover.? I've had it happen on some Spitfire engines. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Dec 25 13:07:47 2020 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:07:47 +0000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <4075BA83-FC2D-4510-8444-9999DE89810A@uthscsa.edu> References: <280070865.4362068.1608900474351.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <280070865.4362068.1608900474351@mail.yahoo.com>, <4075BA83-FC2D-4510-8444-9999DE89810A@uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: If you would have stopped at "don't make this political" that would have been good, you know before you inserted your political views... Marty ________________________________ From: Triumphs on behalf of Cochran, David L Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:59 PM To: glewis999 at aol.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Do not make this political. Hope however that you enjoyed the best economy we have had in for many years and one of the lowest employment rates ever for our country plus no wars and some Middle East peace never achieved before. On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:48 AM, glewis999 at aol.com wrote: ?Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cochran at uthscsa.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not only that, the ?old? engine in the car is in great shape. > > On to the street engine for the TR6 in the background. > > Happy holiday, everyone! > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walje at sbcglobal.net > > From rkramer56 at gmail.com Fri Dec 25 17:44:39 2020 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 18:44:39 -0600 Subject: [Fot] New Engine In-Reply-To: <384BCC42-773F-4492-A44B-E13961A87A22@me.com> References: <384BCC42-773F-4492-A44B-E13961A87A22@me.com> Message-ID: I don?t know.....the calendar tells a different story. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?One of the few benefits of not having the usual houseful this Christmas (and of having a very understanding spouse) is that I got to spend two hours today buttoning up the long block for the GT6. All the hard work is done, and it?s got the new special cam in it. Not only that, the ?old? engine in the car is in great shape. > > On to the street engine for the TR6 in the background. > > Happy holiday, everyone! > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > From fmccjr at aol.com Fri Dec 25 17:57:38 2020 From: fmccjr at aol.com (Rick McCurdy) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 19:57:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New Engine In-Reply-To: <384BCC42-773F-4492-A44B-E13961A87A22@me.com> References: <384BCC42-773F-4492-A44B-E13961A87A22@me.com> Message-ID: Merry Christmas, and that looks GREAT! My ?gift that keeps giving? is a 58 Bugeye that has had to have a second engine rebuild. And now the starter is toast. 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Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY > On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?One of the few benefits of not having the usual houseful this Christmas (and of having a very understanding spouse) is that I got to spend two hours today buttoning up the long block for the GT6. All the hard work is done, and it?s got the new special cam in it. Not only that, the ?old? engine in the car is in great shape. > > On to the street engine for the TR6 in the background. > > Happy holiday, everyone! > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > From jaboruch at yahoo.com Fri Dec 25 19:45:23 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 02:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <521799640.4384944.1608912374519@mail.yahoo.com> References: <0C8A5E7BD30A4AFC9376DA3CD60F1ED2@VlackTK121647> <521799640.4384944.1608912374519@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <504324236.4455576.1608950723604@mail.yahoo.com> I took a look in my spare parts box and I found a seal (it was right on top - I am not usually so lucky in my searches), which I believe to be the correct one.? It is a Timken 473229 double lip seal.? 1.562" x 2.502" x 3.13".? My engine is assembled, so I could not verify the shaft ID, but the OD is correct.? It is a fairly common seal for a transfer case (which I have no reason to have a seal for). Googling, there is also a Timken 472635 seal, which is for a 1.552" shaft, but it is 0.500" thick.? The extra thickness may better position one seal lip away from the split between the spacer and the damper hub.?? I do not use a gasket to install the timing cover, but rather just use RTV.? Adding a gasket or two would also shift the seal's relative position, which may help (or hurt, depending on where the split is).? JoeB.? On Friday, December 25, 2020, 11:08:18 AM EST, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: Jerry, I am using a thin belt Harmonic damper that I got from BFE years ago.? It has spacer that goes against the slinger and the joint where the damper meets the spacer is right about where the seal lip is.? 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I noted in the article in the latest TVT about 20TS that it?s author identified Sir John Black as Sir Black. Oh, dear. Sometimes I think a few lessons on how to address titled people is long overdue for our colonial cousins:) Happy Christmas, everyone! Jonmac Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intentions. > On 24 Dec 2020, at 21:34, wrote: > > o ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Mon Dec 28 06:10:18 2020 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 08:10:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Blank-off plate for oil filter - TR6 and GT6 engine? Message-ID: Hi, I?m looking for one of these. Does anyone have a spare or know of a source? 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F8EB4A64B784C9FA510E70CB9675FAB@Rocky> Trace the outline of what you want to blank off (including bolt holes), go to your friendly neighorhood machine shop, ask them to cut you a plate out of 1/8? steel. Cheap. I did that to replace the stock fuel pump on my Spitfire. Install it with a gasket! As for the oil filter, I acquired an adaptor with in/out receptacles for a system that includes a remote filter and an oil cooler. --Rocky Entriken From: Scott Janzen via Fot Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:10 AM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Blank-off plate for oil filter - TR6 and GT6 engine? Hi, I?m looking for one of these. Does anyone have a spare or know of a source? My oiling system by-passes this area entirely, and I?d like not to have to swap this piece between engines. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky at spitfire4.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gt6steve at aol.com Mon Dec 28 17:21:28 2020 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 00:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Blank-off plate for oil filter - TR6 and GT6 engine? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1755710686.3188811.1609201288522@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Scott. I used to make these.I naught be able to whip you one out this weekend.? Sent from the all new Aol app for iOS On Monday, December 28, 2020, 5:11 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: Hi, I?m looking for one of these. ?Does anyone have a spare or know of a source? ?My oiling system by-passes this area entirely, and I?d like not to have to swap this piece between engines. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Dec 25 13:40:51 2020 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:40:51 +0000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <000501d6dafa$39681550$ac383ff0$@uprichard.net> References: <280070865.4362068.1608900474351.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <280070865.4362068.1608900474351@mail.yahoo.com> <4075BA83-FC2D-4510-8444-9999DE89810A@uthscsa.edu>, <000501d6dafa$39681550$ac383ff0$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: I concur. I apologize for my comments, there can be nothing positive with me continuing. I am out and I truly hope all of you have a Merry Christmas and a great 2021. Marty From: Triumphs on behalf of auprichard at uprichard.net Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 3:12 PM To: 'Cochran, David L' ; glewis999 at aol.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak As I said, CUT IT OUT ! Obviously I agree with one of you two, but this is the Triumph chat page for goodness sake. We need to police our chat page and keep it to the subject on which we are all in agreement ? our lovely old cars. Andrew Uprichard From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Cochran, David L Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:59 PM To: glewis999 at aol.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Do not make this political. Hope however that you enjoyed the best economy we have had in for many years and one of the lowest employment rates ever for our country plus no wars and some Middle East peace never achieved before. On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:48 AM, glewis999 at aol.com wrote: ?Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack > wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cochran at uthscsa.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steveadams55 at sky.com Fri Dec 25 13:49:57 2020 From: steveadams55 at sky.com (Steve Adams) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:49:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can we get back to talking about car stuff pls..... that?s when you guys are at your best. Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Dec 2020, at 20:08, marty sukey via Fot wrote: > > ? > If you would have stopped at "don't make this political" that would have been good, you know before you inserted your political views... > > Marty > > From: Triumphs on behalf of Cochran, David L > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:59 PM > To: glewis999 at aol.com > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Do not make this political. Hope however that you enjoyed the best economy we have had in for many years and one of the lowest employment rates ever for our country plus no wars and some Middle East peace never achieved before. > >>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:48 AM, glewis999 at aol.com wrote: >>> >> ?Yes, >> Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. >> >> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >> Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com >> >> On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: >> >> >> I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy >> sleeves and might try that. >> >> >> >> My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind >> the damper pulley. >> >> Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? >> >> >> >> Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. >> >> >> >> JVV >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cochran at uthscsa.edu > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Sat Dec 26 11:50:00 2020 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 11:50:00 -0700 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <000501d6dafa$39681550$ac383ff0$@uprichard.net> References: <280070865.4362068.1608900474351.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <280070865.4362068.1608900474351@mail.yahoo.com> <4075BA83-FC2D-4510-8444-9999DE89810A@uthscsa.edu> <000501d6dafa$39681550$ac383ff0$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: <62C63DD1-4CBB-47AF-95F3-BD656B8549F2@comcast.net> Thanks for that Andrew, I don?t want either side fucking this list up. I?ve been here for 24 years and fortunately we self police. This is an email list so I don?t even like it when it veers towards being a chat line, no finding Waldo crap please, or naming old sayings, that is for chat lines and face book. No car stuff, then stifle yourself. Merry Christmas and Happy New year Bud > On Dec 25, 2020, at 1:12 PM, auprichard at uprichard.net wrote: > > As I said, CUT IT OUT ! > > Obviously I agree with one of you two, but this is the Triumph chat page for goodness sake. We need to police our chat page and keep it to the subject on which we are all in agreement ? our lovely old cars. > > Andrew Uprichard > > From: Triumphs > On Behalf Of Cochran, David L > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:59 PM > To: glewis999 at aol.com > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Do not make this political. Hope however that you enjoyed the best economy we have had in for many years and one of the lowest employment rates ever for our country plus no wars and some Middle East peace never achieved before. > > >> On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:48 AM, glewis999 at aol.com wrote: >> >> ?Yes, >> Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. >> >> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >> Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com >> >> On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack > wrote: >> >>> I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. >>> >>> My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. >>> Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? >>> >>> Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. >>> >>> JVV >>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cochran at uthscsa.edu ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi at comcast.net Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I noted in the article in the latest TVT about 20TS that it?s author identified Sir John Black as Sir Black. Oh, dear. Sometimes I think a few lessons on how to address titled people is long overdue for our colonial cousins:) Happy Christmas, everyone! Jonmac Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intentions. > On 24 Dec 2020, at 21:34, > > wrote: > > o ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 26 17:47:33 2020 From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 00:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] 1954 XMAS card In-Reply-To: <98A76C14-9101-49F3-B705-FBC6EEFD8204@mhc-law.com> References: <5b5b03da52c4e31261b334b88681ac9c156f44cd@webmail> <1712097435.4083423.1608792125192@mail.yahoo.com> <020001d6da3c$9caaf1f0$d600d5d0$@bell.net> <067982C7-C9EB-4615-9083-D61682D2EBAB@Ukpips.org.uk> <1556362120.2878662.1609027682754@mail.yahoo.com> <98A76C14-9101-49F3-B705-FBC6EEFD8204@mhc-law.com> Message-ID: <1774534071.2843316.1609030053376@mail.yahoo.com> On Saturday, December 26, 2020, 04:36:13 PM PST, John H. Hasty wrote: Such a pity that Mr. Fawkes? intentions were unsuccessful, It is rumored it was because he relied upon his MG to complete his intentions.? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot wrote: ?Jonmacneed to instructed them on how to make tea also. Frank On Friday, December 25, 2020, 12:15:40 PM PST, John Macartney wrote: Tut, tut, tut, Mr. Mace. Never mind. I noted in the article in the latest TVT about 20TS that it?s author identified Sir John Black as Sir Black. Oh, dear. Sometimes I think a few lessons on how to address titled people is long overdue for our colonial cousins:) Happy Christmas, everyone! Jonmac Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intentions. > On 24 Dec 2020, at 21:34, wrote: > > o ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave finished a several year restoration of his Royal Blue 1967 TR4A (I?m partial to Royal Blue 4A?s) having done all of the work himself. The car turned out very nice. Dave and I along with several WPTA unwashed did a 2500+ mile tour thru New England after the Watkins Glen festival in 2019 including spirited runs up Mt Equinox in VT and Mt Washington in NH. Dave?s blog ( davestr4a.com) details some of our adventures together. > > Seconds please and Mark please add Dave to the list. > > JVV > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave finished a several year restoration of his Royal Blue 1967 TR4A (I?m partial to Royal Blue 4A?s) having done all of the work himself. The car turned out very nice. Dave and I along with several WPTA unwashed did a 2500+ mile tour thru New England after the Watkins Glen festival in 2019 including spirited runs up Mt Equinox in VT and Mt Washington in NH. 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I will look later unless someone else beats me to it.? JoeB On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 06:23:07 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion?? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until? I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. Thanks! Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. > Thanks! > Phil Gott > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com > > From alfetta95 at optonline.net Tue Dec 29 17:36:58 2020 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:36:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: <2082153427.5520669.1609286755535@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2082153427.5520669.1609286755535@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Please list the numbers here. I am also in need of replacements Thnx Todd > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > ? > Yes, it is a small Ford bearing. I have one in my parts bin. I will look later unless someone else beats me to it. JoeB > > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 06:23:07 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > > Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... > Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? 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URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Tue Dec 29 17:54:39 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:54:39 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... > Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. > Thanks! > Phil Gott > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > From vfracing at aol.com Tue Dec 29 18:10:43 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 20:10:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thanks, guys! The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes. Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of ?Green? bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are different from Timken. In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc. Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: > > ?Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. > The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. > Dave H. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >> >> Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... >> Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. >> Thanks! >> Phil Gott >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >> >> > From dlhogye at comcast.net Tue Dec 29 18:25:18 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:25:18 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A8D61C8-E7EB-4D10-86BA-1D4880028623@comcast.net> The Timken number that I tried using is RW507ER. Perhaps the Suffix R is the radius designation. In any event, it doesn't really cross with the Green bearing used for the Moser axle and I could not get a different Timken bearing. The inner races have a different radius on the i.d. I alway use Timken, but not this time. Southwick will also send you Green bearings. Number RW507E. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Phil Gott wrote: > > Thanks, guys! > The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes. > Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of ?Green? bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are different from Timken. > In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc. > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: >> >> ?Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. >> The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. >> Dave H. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... >>> Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. >>> Thanks! >>> Phil Gott >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > From mark at bradakis.com Tue Dec 29 18:34:53 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 18:34:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9fae592c-0e46-5c7f-2cc5-97dc726d148e@bradakis.com> On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list.? It was 24 years ago, 1996.? Time flies when you're having fun. mjb. From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 18:41:04 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:41:04 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: <9fae592c-0e46-5c7f-2cc5-97dc726d148e@bradakis.com> References: <9fae592c-0e46-5c7f-2cc5-97dc726d148e@bradakis.com> Message-ID: We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. Thanks Mark. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > > That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From dlhogye at comcast.net Tue Dec 29 18:46:53 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:46:53 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007B20DA-3A3C-4613-9A6C-01F0B4683596@comcast.net> I also discovered a similar bearing i.d. radius issue for the pinion tail bearing in the Triumph diff. The typical Timken has a fat radius that creates a small contact surface against the pinion flange. When I researched this matter, I did find a Timken bearing with a different i.d. radius that provided a much wider contact to the flange. The factory also used a wider contact here. I had a couple axle assemblies sitting around and found original numbers on this bearing that were different than the typically available bearing. Obviously, through the years a substitute was made. The substitute is probably less expensive. Better profit margin, but not really better. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Phil Gott wrote: > > Thanks, guys! > The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes. > Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of ?Green? bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are different from Timken. > In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc. > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: >> >> ?Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. >> The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. >> Dave H. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... >>> Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. >>> Thanks! >>> Phil Gott >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > From jaboruch at yahoo.com Tue Dec 29 19:57:07 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 02:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435796496.499899.1609297027219@mail.yahoo.com> The Moser package that I have, which came with 2 bearings and 2 press on retainers is part number MSR-9507F.? The bearing is an RW507E, 1.377 ID and 2.834 OD.? 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URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Tue Dec 29 20:11:25 2020 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:11:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <9fae592c-0e46-5c7f-2cc5-97dc726d148e@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1609297885.k5efi1t008wo8444@webmail.lumos.net> I agree, that is a good idea. John On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:41:04 -0600, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. Thanks Mark. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > > That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? From terrysopher at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 20:55:04 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:55:04 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Since Kastner Cup will be on West Coast & the Anniversary is in December - Something in the Southeast may be a good choice based on weather! Roebling, Jekyll Island!?!? > On Dec 29, 2020, at 20:47, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. > > Thanks Mark. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >> >> ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote >> >> Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! >> >> That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. >> >> mjb. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From hankgiffin at cox.net Tue Dec 29 22:25:51 2020 From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 00:25:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 on Wheeler Dealers Message-ID: <02a501d6de6c$3e7ef430$bb7cdc90$@cox.net> Wheeler Dealers series 16 episode 11 has a 20 year stored TR4 as the feature. 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I better check, my 100 year high school reunion might be coming up. > On Dec 29, 2020, at 10:01 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > On 12/29/20 6:41 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: >> We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. >> > > At least a run of silver anniversary T shirts. And I'll have mine sent to the UPS store or some such, don't want them stolen off my porch like the 2020 Kastner Cup shirts were. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com > > From tr4racing at googlemail.com Wed Dec 30 00:16:57 2020 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 08:16:57 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001801d6de7b$c2955ac0$47c01040$@gmail.com> I use a lip seal which sits before the bearing and prevent oil is getting in the bearing itself as I know that the seals on roller bearings are not good enough. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot Im Auftrag von Phil Gott via Fot Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Dezember 2020 02:11 An: Dave Cc: Friends of Triumph Betreff: Re: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion Thanks, guys! The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes. Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of ?Green? bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are different from Timken. In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc. Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: > > ?Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. > The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. > Dave H. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >> >> Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... >> Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. >> Thanks! >> Phil Gott >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >> >> > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From gasket.works at gte.net Wed Dec 30 07:06:55 2020 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion References: <1321489029.594435.1609337215570.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1321489029.594435.1609337215570@mail.yahoo.com> What say best photo from each member with a?Three-four sentence description. On a member section of the web site? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On?Tuesday, December 29, 2020,?Joe Alexander via Fot??wrote: We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. Thanks Mark. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > > That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list.? It was 24 years ago, 1996.? Time flies when you're having fun. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Dec 30 07:11:08 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:11:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: <1321489029.594435.1609337215570@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1321489029.594435.1609337215570@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9A34587E-3DEC-42DB-BE21-978157C7ACCE@aol.com> I like that! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 30, 2020, at 9:08 AM, Mordy Dunst via Fot wrote: > > ?What say best photo from each member with a Three-four sentence description. On a member section of the web site? > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. > > Thanks Mark. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > > > ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > > > > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > > > > That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. > > > > mjb. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Dec 30 08:10:48 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Dec 30, 2020 9:56 am Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 To Change the Subject Line and Summarize: Mark Bradakis announces 25th Anniversary. Mark suggests a special run of FOT Shirts. Mordy suggests pictures in Website. Terry suggests doing something on the East Coast. All good ideas, eh? I think we are overdue for a run of T-Shirts and these could be made special. And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. Regards, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Roebling, Jekyll Island!?!? > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 20:47, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> ?We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. >> >> Thanks Mark. >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote >>> >>> Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! >>> >>> That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. >>> >>> mjb. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >> >> From ofracer at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 11:23:08 2020 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 13:23:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've looked for an excuse to run that event. mike h On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:55 PM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > ? > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > On Dec 29, 2020, at 9:55 PM, Terry Sopher wrote: > > > > ?Since Kastner Cup will be on West Coast & the Anniversary is in > December - Something in the Southeast may be a good choice based on > weather! Roebling, Jekyll Island!?!? > > > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 20:47, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > >> > >> ?We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. > >> > >> Thanks Mark. > >> > >> Joe Alexander > >> 4505 Donald Dr > >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > >> The-vintage-racer.com > >> Gasketinnovations.com > >> Cell: 319.464.4711 > >> > >> > >>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > >>> > >>> ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > >>> > >>> Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great > group! > >>> > >>> That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On > December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time > flies when you're having fun. > >>> > >>> mjb. > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot at autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. > > Regards, > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Terry Sopher > On Dec 30, 2020, at 09:57, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?To Change the Subject Line and Summarize: > > Mark Bradakis announces 25th Anniversary. > > Mark suggests a special run of FOT Shirts. > > Mordy suggests pictures in Website. > > Terry suggests doing something on the East Coast. > > All good ideas, eh? > > I think we are overdue for a run of T-Shirts and these could be made special. And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. > > Regards, > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From curt.johnston at comcast.net Wed Dec 30 12:17:28 2020 From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:17:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1053581724.185683.1609355849026@connect.xfinity.com> Sounds like the start of a Kastner Cup Series! Four races; east, west, south, north! Curt Johnston > On 12/29/2020 7:55 PM Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: > > > Since Kastner Cup will be on West Coast & the Anniversary is in December - Something in the Southeast may be a good choice based on weather! Roebling, Jekyll Island!?!? > > > On Dec 29, 2020, at 20:47, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > > > ?We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. > > > > Thanks Mark. > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > >> > >> ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > >> > >> Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > >> > >> That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. > >> > >> mjb. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/curt.johnston at comcast.net From sjanzen at me.com Wed Dec 30 12:26:12 2020 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:26:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> Message-ID: I second the vote for a long sleeve option! On Dec 30, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: Yes and I like getting T-shirts out early. Long sleeve & shirt sleeve plz! Terry Sopher > On Dec 30, 2020, at 09:57, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?To Change the Subject Line and Summarize: > > Mark Bradakis announces 25th Anniversary. > > Mark suggests a special run of FOT Shirts. > > Mordy suggests pictures in Website. > > Terry suggests doing something on the East Coast. > > All good ideas, eh? > > I think we are overdue for a run of T-Shirts and these could be made special. And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. > > Regards, > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cartravel at pobox.com Wed Dec 30 13:39:09 2020 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:39:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, and definitely not white! You just can't get the inevitable grease stains out. - Larry Young On 12/30/2020 1:26 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > I second the vote for a long sleeve option! > > On Dec 30, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot > wrote: > > Yes and I like getting T-shirts out early. ?Long sleeve & shirt sleeve > plz! > > Terry Sopher > >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 09:57, Joe Alexander via Fot > > wrote: >> >> ?To Change the Subject Line and Summarize: >> >> Mark Bradakis announces 25th Anniversary. >> >> Mark suggests a special run of FOT Shirts. >> >> Mordy suggests pictures in Website. >> >> Terry suggests doing something on the East Coast. >> >> All good ideas, eh? >> >> I think we are overdue for a run of T-Shirts and these could be made >> special. And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: ?319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bownes at seiri.com Wed Dec 30 14:42:29 2020 From: bownes at seiri.com (Bob Bownes -Seiri) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:42:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Restorer? In-Reply-To: <48db01985a5a1e807428d924ec7d11d8fe6e305a@webmail> References: <48db01985a5a1e807428d924ec7d11d8fe6e305a@webmail> Message-ID: <40CCA6B2-59AA-4AD4-9EE4-A04D51A03393@seiri.com> That?s a common misspelling of my last name, but I?m hardly a professional restoration person. > On Dec 30, 2020, at 13:40, T. R. Householder via Fot wrote: > > ?Can anyone relate to a Bob Bower restoring British cars? _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > From terrysopher at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 14:50:00 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: <1d3a941e-ec79-001d-403a-208a08dd94e9@bradakis.com> References: <1d3a941e-ec79-001d-403a-208a08dd94e9@bradakis.com> Message-ID: I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. > On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?Interesting. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From jhasty at mhc-law.com Wed Dec 30 15:41:15 2020 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 22:41:15 +0000 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: <1d3a941e-ec79-001d-403a-208a08dd94e9@bradakis.com>, Message-ID: <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> If it was a ?major British engine rebuilder (of Spit) motors in NC it would be Rick Parent...perhaps we might have his comment? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: > > ?I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. > >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Interesting. >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 >> >> mjb. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > > From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 15:45:11 2020 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:45:11 -0600 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> References: <1d3a941e-ec79-001d-403a-208a08dd94e9@bradakis.com> <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> Message-ID: That does look like the Spitfire that Dave Foreman ran here in Texas and it did in fact have Rick Parent motor (at that time at least) Bob Kramer On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 4:42 PM John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: > If it was a ?major British engine rebuilder (of Spit) motors in NC it > would be Rick Parent...perhaps we might have his comment? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot > wrote: > > > > ?I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder > in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but > he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 > engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. > > > >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot > wrote: > >> > >> ?Interesting. > >> > >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 > >> > >> mjb. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 16:33:06 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:33:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50E85E66-2B47-4440-B401-5C3DDCF5433A@gmail.com> Not Dave Foreman?s old car...that was a ?62 that I bought w/out Engine or trans & sold this summer to new owner in PA, who is getting it ready for SCCA. > On Dec 30, 2020, at 17:45, Bob Kramer wrote: > > ? > That does look like the Spitfire that Dave Foreman ran here in Texas and it did in fact have Rick Parent motor (at that time at least) > > Bob Kramer > > >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 4:42 PM John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: >> If it was a ?major British engine rebuilder (of Spit) motors in NC it would be Rick Parent...perhaps we might have his comment? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: >> > >> > ?I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. >> > >> >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >> >> >> >> ?Interesting. >> >> >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 >> >> >> >> mjb. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 18:04:50 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 20:04:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> References: <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> Message-ID: <8085122A-745D-4717-A9D2-C8C693346831@gmail.com> Seller states ? The engine was built by Larry Melvin in Greensboro NC? > On Dec 30, 2020, at 17:41, John H. Hasty wrote: > > ?If it was a ?major British engine rebuilder (of Spit) motors in NC it would be Rick Parent...perhaps we might have his comment? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: >> >> ?I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. >> >>>> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Interesting. >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 >>> >>> mjb. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> From garygret at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 30 21:37:29 2020 From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: glensfirstracecar.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 06:38:17 2020 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 07:38:17 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old > reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered > my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the > throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long > though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My > first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little > hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to > capture the guilty look. > > Gary Schneider > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > Glen Efinger > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother > John is driver. > > [image: glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > - > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: glensfirstracecar.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Thu Dec 31 07:12:13 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 14:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <867977151.3649731.1609423933994@mail.yahoo.com> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ?Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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BTW, 10% is fine in a 4hp Briggs, 20% not so much. Apparently pistons are only supposed to have the one hole for the gudgeon pin!? Jake On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:16:46 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ?Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: glensfirstracecar.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Thu Dec 31 07:31:51 2020 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (kekjacobsen) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 08:31:51 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <2124024677.3668766.1609424572203@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: All you poor people that didn't grow up with a family go-kart track...Karting Kettle, Elkhart Lake...my Grandpa built that....Sorry, not sorry!!!KarenSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot Date: 12/31/20 8:24 AM (GMT-06:00) To: fot at autox.team.net, garygret at sbcglobal.net, fubog1 Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I was allowed to use the engine from our mower in my go-kart during the week as long as I re-installed it on the mower Friday night, so I could mow Saturday. All was good until I got ahold of some nitromethane from a drag racer friend around the corner... BTW, 10% is fine in a 4hp Briggs, 20% not so much. Apparently pistons are only supposed to have the one hole for the gudgeon pin!?Jake On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:16:46 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes. 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Bob Kramer On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 8:17 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and > scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [image: Wink]? > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp > go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel > exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the > rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before > the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the > magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing > supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a > serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > Duncan > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old > reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered > my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the > throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long > though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My > first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little > hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to > capture the guilty look. > > Gary Schneider > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > Glen Efinger > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother > John is driver. > > [image: glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > - > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So we (me and two of my brothers) figured out mounting it and found a clutch and chain and so on, but no throttle cable and no brakes. Anyways, one kid drove it while another stood on the axle and worked the carburetor, very scary screaming down the road standing on the back holding on with one hand I can tell you. I've gotten a little smarter since then, some will say not by much? Happy New Year Friends Brian On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 9:23 AM Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: > I was allowed to use the engine from our mower in my go-kart during the > week as long as I re-installed it on the mower Friday night, so I could mow > Saturday. All was good until I got ahold of some nitromethane from a drag > racer friend around the corner... BTW, 10% is fine in a 4hp Briggs, 20% not > so much. Apparently pistons are only supposed to have the one hole for the > gudgeon pin! [image: Emoji] > > Jake > > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:16:46 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and > scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [image: Wink]? > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp > go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel > exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the > rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before > the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the > magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing > supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a > serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > Duncan > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old > reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered > my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the > throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long > though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My > first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little > hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to > capture the guilty look. > > Gary Schneider > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > Glen Efinger > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother > John is driver. > > [image: glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > - > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com > > > -- Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But man was it fun. mike h On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 9:59 AM Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: > Up north we looked for old snowblowers. > > Bob Kramer > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 8:17 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > >> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and >> scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [image: Wink]? >> Glen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >> To: Gary Schneider >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >> >> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp >> go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel >> exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the >> rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before >> the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the >> magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing >> supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a >> serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >> >> Duncan >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < >> fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old >> reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered >> my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the >> throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long >> though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My >> first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little >> hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to >> capture the guilty look. >> >> Gary Schneider >> >> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < >> fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, yes, and yes. >> Glen Efinger >> >> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my >> brother John is driver. >> >> [image: glensfirstracecar.jpg] >> >> >> >> - >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 09:44:25 AM CST, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: Mixing in a little Cox Glow Plug fuel (nitromethane) with the gas made sure our string of scraped lawn mower engines didn't live very long either.But man was it fun. mike h On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 9:59 AM Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: Up north we looked for old snowblowers. Bob Kramer On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 8:17 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ?Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:24:37 AM CST, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: I made this after hours in the school shop, arc welder, electrical conduit and used parts I scrounged when I was 14. ?Clearly should have built in a little more legroom, or this photo was taken later. ?Good for about 25 mph in the parking lots I ran it in. ?Good thing I did not know the nitromethane trick, but it would have blown up, but instead I sold it to a friend for $50. Yep, it was the early 70s. ?Bell bottoms and long hair. Scott Janzen Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave H. > On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [Wink]? > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > Duncan > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. > > > > Gary Schneider > > > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > > Glen Efinger > > > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. > > > > [glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > > > > > - > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't know how it got in there either, because it barely fit.? I had the fastest minibike in town.? Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sonomascot at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H. > On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [Wink]? > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > Duncan > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. > > > > Gary Schneider > > > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > > Glen Efinger > > > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. > > > > [glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > > > > > - > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger.? We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine.? Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there.? The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling.? We thought that was pretty funny.? I still do.? A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger.? We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine.? Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there.? The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling.? We thought that was pretty funny.? I still do.? A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > ? > Great stuff here gang, keep it up! > I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...! > Glen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot > To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! > > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: > > > In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. > Dave H. >> On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? >> Glen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >> To: Gary Schneider >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >> >> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >> >> Duncan >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. >> >> Gary Schneider >> >> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, yes, and yes. >> Glen Efinger >> >> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Seems like some good stuff in there. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? Need any of this? Mostly Spitfire stuff, with a little GT6 mixed in. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Dec 31 13:19:03 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 20:19:03 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Some GT6 Mk III rear windows.... Scott (B.) From: Fot on behalf of Barr, Scott via Fot Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 2:10:15 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper Need any of this? Mostly Spitfire stuff, with a little GT6 mixed in. [Image] Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 [Image] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: processed.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 662047 bytes Desc: processed.jpeg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: processed.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 694969 bytes Desc: processed.jpeg URL: From sjanzen at me.com Thu Dec 31 13:27:14 2020 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 15:27:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8557D472-A2EA-49B7-A015-818B3EEBE146@me.com> No idea, maybe some other lister knows how to tell them apart. Looks like you are all hitched up already and set to go. No worries . Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Barr, Scott wrote: > > ? > There is a rack, but no idea if it's Spit or GT6, or the condition. Do you know a quick way to tell? > > There is a lot of broken stuff in here. Some good stuff too, but I am not super interested in sorting the wheat from the chaff :-) > > > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > > > From: Scott Janzen > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020, 2:13 PM > To: Barr, Scott > Subject: Re: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper > > GT6 steering rack? I would take that if it?s any good. > Seems like some good stuff in there. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Need any of this? Mostly Spitfire stuff, with a little GT6 mixed in. >> >> >> >> >> >> Scott Barr >> McCarty Law LLP >> (920) 257-2233 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adcronin at mi.rr.com Thu Dec 31 13:41:58 2020 From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 15:41:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Go Cart In-Reply-To: <2106217253.3666784.1609432137866@mail.yahoo.com> References: <80397303-5A9F-4C51-833E-C90885C518F9@me.com> <2106217253.3666784.1609432137866@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1EFA96DF-3CE9-4D78-9126-8ED80723FBD6@mi.rr.com> My son in the early / mid 80?s on his wood frame TR3 wheeled, rope pull steering! On Dec 31, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: Very cool, Scott! Using those old "drag" brakes just prepared us for thinking British brakes from the '50's are great! On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:24:37 AM CST, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: I made this after hours in the school shop, arc welder, electrical conduit and used parts I scrounged when I was 14. Clearly should have built in a little more legroom, or this photo was taken later. Good for about 25 mph in the parking lots I ran it in. Good thing I did not know the nitromethane trick, but it would have blown up, but instead I sold it to a friend for $50. Yep, it was the early 70s. Bell bottoms and long hair. 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Looks like you are all hitched up already and set to go. No worries . Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Barr, Scott wrote: ? There is a rack, but no idea if it's Spit or GT6, or the condition. Do you know a quick way to tell? There is a lot of broken stuff in here. Some good stuff too, but I am not super interested in sorting the wheat from the chaff :-) Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 ________________________________ From: Scott Janzen Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020, 2:13 PM To: Barr, Scott Subject: Re: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper GT6 steering rack? I would take that if it?s any good. Seems like some good stuff in there. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? Need any of this? Mostly Spitfire stuff, with a little GT6 mixed in. 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URL: From JIBrooks at live.com Thu Dec 31 13:46:40 2020 From: JIBrooks at live.com (Jack Brooks) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 20:46:40 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <2124024677.3668766.1609424572203@mail.yahoo.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> <867977151.3649731.1609423933994@mail.yahoo.com> <2124024677.3668766.1609424572203@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was retroactively not allowed to put the old mower?s 3.5 HP Briggs and Stratton in my 5 speed Schwinn bicycle, but that bike was awesome for about a hour before Mom saw it and told me to park it until Dad got home. Dad gave me 30 minutes to get the old mower running again, which I barely completed on time. Being fair to my parents, that sucker was not at all safe or legal for the street but it was fun and fast! Jack From: Fot On Behalf Of Erik Jacobsen via Fot Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:23 AM To: fot at autox.team.net; garygret at sbcglobal.net; fubog1 Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I was allowed to use the engine from our mower in my go-kart during the week as long as I re-installed it on the mower Friday night, so I could mow Saturday. All was good until I got ahold of some nitromethane from a drag racer friend around the corner... BTW, 10% is fine in a 4hp Briggs, 20% not so much. Apparently pistons are only supposed to have the one hole for the gudgeon pin! [Emoji] Jake On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:16:46 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot > wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [Wink] ? Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net >; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot > wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot > wrote: Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. 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With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake. Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position). He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY > On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > ?Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Great stuff here gang, keep it up! >> I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...! >> Glen >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot >> To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE >> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >> >> A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! >> >> On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: >> >> >> In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. >> Dave H. >>> On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? >>> Glen >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >>> To: Gary Schneider >>> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >>> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >>> >>> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >>> >>> Duncan >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. >>> >>> Gary Schneider >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Yes, yes, and yes. >>> Glen Efinger >>> >>> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sonomascot at aol.com Thu Dec 31 16:34:16 2020 From: sonomascot at aol.com (Scott Meredith) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> Message-ID: <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> Rick M.You win! -----Original Message----- From: Rick McCurdy via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: Friends Of Triumph Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 One Christmas (i might have been about 12 or 13 in ?69 or ?70), I asked for a go kart. Santa thought he would be just cool enough and I got a go kart frame. No engine. Some time later, the old Reo reel to reel mower gave up its motor for the cause. Of course, my folks would not let me ride the kart on the road, so it got beaten around the lawn and one day, I noticed the fuel line below the cylindrical brass tank leaking so I decided to repair it myself.?With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake.??Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position).He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: ?Great stuff here gang, keep it up!I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...!Glen -----Original Message----- From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 A miracle any of us survived to adulthood!? On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger.? We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine.? Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there.? The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling.? We thought that was pretty funny.? I still do.? A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sonomascot at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Thu Dec 31 16:48:31 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1465187253.3773752.1609458511389@mail.yahoo.com> Don't be too quick, every time I declare a winner in my mind, I open the next post.This stuff is great, needs to be archived!Also after reading these posts, I somehow feel a little less strange...Glen -----Original Message----- From: Scott Meredith via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 6:34 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 Rick M.You win! -----Original Message----- From: Rick McCurdy via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: Friends Of Triumph Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 One Christmas (i might have been about 12 or 13 in ?69 or ?70), I asked for a go kart. Santa thought he would be just cool enough and I got a go kart frame. No engine. Some time later, the old Reo reel to reel mower gave up its motor for the cause. Of course, my folks would not let me ride the kart on the road, so it got beaten around the lawn and one day, I noticed the fuel line below the cylindrical brass tank leaking so I decided to repair it myself.?With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake.??Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position).He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: ?Great stuff here gang, keep it up!I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...!Glen -----Original Message----- From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 A miracle any of us survived to adulthood!? On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger.? We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine.? Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there.? The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling.? We thought that was pretty funny.? I still do.? A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sonomascot at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Thu Dec 31 17:56:40 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 19:56:40 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <318D545B238D4E439F3246F813DED382@VlackTK121647> Thankfully no one was injured and the house didn?t burn to the ground but I must say I began laughing at the 8 foot tall vapor fire and didn?t stop until the end. I wanted a go kart so bad but it never happened. There was a neighbor kid who mounted an engine on a wagon however and that thing would fly once he got it rolling. No issues with the hills around my Pittsburgh neighborhood either. I agree Rick?s story is the best so far. JVV From: Scott Meredith via Fot Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:34 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 Rick M. You win! -----Original Message----- From: Rick McCurdy via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: Friends Of Triumph Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 One Christmas (i might have been about 12 or 13 in ?69 or ?70), I asked for a go kart. Santa thought he would be just cool enough and I got a go kart frame. No engine. Some time later, the old Reo reel to reel mower gave up its motor for the cause. Of course, my folks would not let me ride the kart on the road, so it got beaten around the lawn and one day, I noticed the fuel line below the cylindrical brass tank leaking so I decided to repair it myself. With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake. Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position). He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? Great stuff here gang, keep it up! I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...! Glen -----Original Message----- From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H. On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Yes, yes, and yes. 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URL: From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 31 18:15:50 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 18:15:50 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1465187253.3773752.1609458511389@mail.yahoo.com> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> <1465187253.3773752.1609458511389@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 12/31/20 4:48 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > This stuff is great, needs to be archived! Uh, check out the archive links at the bottom of each real time message.? They might be at the top of digest messages. mjb. From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 31 18:27:47 2020 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS DELAP) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 19:27:47 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <0EDE675E-C492-4565-9EA9-0BA82CE7A483@sbcglobal.net> References: <0EDE675E-C492-4565-9EA9-0BA82CE7A483@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <049FD00E-4FCA-41EF-9246-74828308D53C@sbcglobal.net> Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 2:56 PM, DENNIS DELAP wrote: > > ?I finally built one with steering- albeit backwards? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 31, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! >> >> On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: >> >> >> In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. >> Dave H. >>> On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? >>> Glen >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >>> To: Gary Schneider >>> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >>> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >>> >>> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >>> >>> Duncan >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. >>> >>> Gary Schneider >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Yes, yes, and yes. >>> Glen Efinger >>> >>> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Thu Dec 31 18:49:53 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 17:49:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <318D545B238D4E439F3246F813DED382@VlackTK121647> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> <318D545B238D4E439F3246F813DED382@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <635662486.190182.1609465794336@connect.xfinity.com> Yes! Great laughs gang. Thanks for sharing these memories. The photos are classic. Happy Anniversary FoT. Thanks Mark. Dave H. > On 12/31/2020 4:56 PM Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: > > > Thankfully no one was injured and the house didn?t burn to the ground but I must say I began laughing at the 8 foot tall vapor fire and didn?t stop until the end. I wanted a go kart so bad but it never happened. There was a neighbor kid who mounted an engine on a wagon however and that thing would fly once he got it rolling. No issues with the hills around my Pittsburgh neighborhood either. > I agree Rick?s story is the best so far. > JVV > > From: Scott Meredith via Fot > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:34 PM > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > Rick M. > You win! > [Smile] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick McCurdy via Fot > To: Phil Gott > Cc: Friends Of Triumph > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 2:26 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > One Christmas (i might have been about 12 or 13 in ?69 or ?70), I asked for a go kart. Santa thought he would be just cool enough and I got a go kart frame. No engine. Some time later, the old Reo reel to reel mower gave up its motor for the cause. Of course, my folks would not let me ride the kart on the road, so it got beaten around the lawn and one day, I noticed the fuel line below the cylindrical brass tank leaking so I decided to repair it myself. > With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake. > > Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position). > He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. > > Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > > > > On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Great stuff here gang, keep it up! > > I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...! > > Glen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot > > To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE > > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm > > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > > > > > A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! > > > > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: > > > > > > In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. > > Dave H. > > > > > > > On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [Wink]? > > > Glen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > > > To: Gary Schneider > > > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > > > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > > > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > > > > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > > > > > Duncan > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. > > > > > > > > Gary Schneider > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > > > > Glen Efinger > > > > > > > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sonomascot at aol.com > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Styduhar, Daniel Lee via Fot wrote: > > ? > > > Gene, Ed 91 years old and still with us, and Austin > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 31 13:56:02 2020 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS DELAP) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 14:56:02 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1528303303.3700824.1609434217422@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1528303303.3700824.1609434217422@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0EDE675E-C492-4565-9EA9-0BA82CE7A483@sbcglobal.net> I finally built one with steering- albeit backwards? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: > > ? > A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! > > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: > > > In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. > Dave H. >> On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? >> Glen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >> To: Gary Schneider >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >> >> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >> >> Duncan >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. >> >> Gary Schneider >> >> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, yes, and yes. >> Glen Efinger >> >> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks in advance Dennis Walje 1968 GT6 Sent from my iPhone From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thu Dec 3 12:06:05 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 13:06:05 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR3 front shock questions Message-ID: <2D85E69A-9B85-4068-960C-137B724D645D@icloud.com> Looking for alternatives to the off the shelf options, unfortunately I don?t have any used shocks on the shelf. Does anyone have the extended and compressed dimensions of the front shocks for the TR3? And since I?m asking, how about for the TR6 as I?ll be back to that project soon. Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone From spitlist at cox.net Thu Dec 3 12:24:11 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 12:24:11 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1564682299.8992.1607023451362@myemail.cox.net> Your best bet is a camber compensator. https://apex2apexmotorsports.com/shop/ols/products/camber-compensator-kit > On December 3, 2020 at 11:53 AM Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > > > > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. > > Thanks in advance > > Dennis Walje > 1968 GT6 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > > From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com Thu Dec 3 12:37:43 2020 From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 13:37:43 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Sorry Dennis, I don?t have your answer. But I?d like to piggy back on it. My 14 year old daughter and I are restoring her first car, a ?63 Herald. We?ll be upgrading to a warmed over Spitfire 1500 drive train and suspension/brakes. Any advice on the rear spring updating to the later camber compensator type? I?m hoping it?s a straight swap with a late Spitfire spring. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 281-871-9623 > On Dec 3, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > > ? > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. > > Thanks in advance > > Dennis Walje > 1968 GT6 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com > > From bownes at seiri.com Thu Dec 3 15:02:38 2020 From: bownes at seiri.com (robert bownes) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 17:02:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Squaretail w hardtop available Message-ID: Hey all, A flagger friend of mine deposited a squaretail Spit on me ~15 years ago for 'storage' while she underwent a nuclear divorce. It's been sitting next to my garage ever since and needs to go away. She doesn't want it back, her kid doesn't want it, and my wife really doesn't want it. So, available to the first one who's willing to come to sunny Troy NY to get it. As I said, it's been sitting in the same place for a Long Time and you get what you expect. Bring a winch and a trailer. :) Only financial requirement is you make a suitable donation to autox.team.net to support the list. Thanks! Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sm1ski at dslextreme.com Thu Dec 3 15:48:04 2020 From: sm1ski at dslextreme.com (kowalski) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 15:48:04 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Squaretail w hardtop available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31456d01-09ec-eab5-69f9-7b9e54215333@dslextreme.com> speaking of hardtops, does anybody want a roundtail hardtop?? The weatherstripping is gone but the glass is right here.? Just help with the shipping. mike kowalski raton, nm On 12/3/2020 3:02 PM, robert bownes via Fot wrote: > > Hey all, > > A flagger friend of mine deposited a squaretail Spit on me ~15 years > ago for 'storage'? while she underwent a nuclear divorce. It's been > sitting next to my garage ever since and needs to go away. She doesn't > want it back, her kid doesn't want it, and my wife really doesn't want > it. > > So, available to the first one who's willing to come to sunny Troy NY > to get it. As I said, it's been sitting in the same place for a Long > Time and you get what you expect. Bring a winch and a trailer. :) > > Only financial requirement is you make a suitable donation to > autox.team.net to support the list. > > Thanks! > Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sm1ski at dslextreme.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 3 20:59:17 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 20:59:17 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> On 12/3/20 11:53 AM, Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. > As I recall the later style swing spring requires longer axles. mjb. From ofracer at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 06:18:57 2020 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 08:18:57 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Yes it does. I upgraded a 72 MKV Spitfire to a swing spring set up. Changes included the axles from a 1500, longer (flex) brake lines (upgraded to braided while I was there). I also had to make an adapter, IIRC, it was a 3/4" -1" D ring, to extend the parking brake cable. The car already had a 3.89 diff with the 4 stud vs 6 stud spring retainer on top. My son seems to like the way it handles, the race spit has spoiled me on street cars and cornering. mike h On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 11:02 PM Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > On 12/3/20 11:53 AM, Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > > Merry Christmas to all. > > > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 > GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 > GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner > performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably > due to replace. > > > > As I recall the later style swing spring requires longer axles. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Fri Dec 4 07:43:55 2020 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 14:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> <69d9fb6e-150a-c53e-e4fd-55b042cb1ba0@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <240701336.2826368.1607093035808@mail.yahoo.com> swing springs do not require longer axles, that was a change they made a few years after the swing spring was added - my race Spit was updated to a swing spring, I also added the compensator back on after an event, car was much better - ran a compensator on my street Spit with the original early spring (same setup as GT6) - I personally am not a fan of the swing spring, they help but you end up with more roll n the rear (they're softer) RalphApex2Apex Motorsports On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 10:02:30 PM CST, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: On 12/3/20 11:53 AM, Dennis Walje via Fot wrote: > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6?? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best?? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator?? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. > As I recall the later style swing spring requires longer axles. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Dec 4 08:27:10 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 15:27:10 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? Message-ID: So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local "pack-n-ship" store where it always seems to cost a mint? Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? Scott (B.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 08:58:24 2020 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 07:58:24 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You might try Fastenal. They do freight with their company trucks and it was very good pre COVID. Not sure what it is like now. Thanks, Chuck > On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:30 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: > > ? > So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? > > Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? > > Scott (B.) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Fri Dec 4 09:02:45 2020 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 16:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear shocks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <761912291.2848122.1607097765582@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Jason, Rimmer Bros has brackets you can buy to move the shock mounts on bodies that have rotted out wheel arc mounts - bolts to the frame where the upper shock bolts to it on roto cars - you could then use your current shocks - otherwise, standard Spit/GT shocks should work - they did the longer ones to clear the roto joints - best bet is to try and keep the shocks as upright as possible, provides better shock movement (up/down) and more direct response by the shock itself CheersRalph On Friday, December 4, 2020, 08:46:29 AM CST, Jason Sukey via Fot wrote: Greetings FOT,? ? ? ?On my GT6 MK3 racecar, (rotoflex halfshafts?have?been replaced with Datsun u-jointed shafts), I'd like to relocate the rear upper shock mount from the standard wheel arch sheet metal mount inboard to the frame, using the mounting points already there for the spitfire/gt6 swing axle shock mounts.? Since the big rotoflex joints aren't there, it looks like I'll have plenty of clearance.?? This will shorten the distance between mounting points significantly, I expect the Rotoflex length shocks will bottom out.? Does anyone know if the "off the shelf" swing axle length shocks (Koni or Spax) will work for this? Jason_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Dec 4 11:15:13 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 18:15:13 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the ideas everyone. If anyone's counting, that was three votes for Greyhound, one for Fastenal, two for UPS and one for yesterdaystractors.com. If you've got another idea, let me know. Thanks, Scott (B.) From: Barr, Scott Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:27 AM To: Amici Triumphi Subject: Shipping Options? So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local "pack-n-ship" store where it always seems to cost a mint? Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? Scott (B.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Fri Dec 4 11:49:32 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 18:49:32 +0000 Subject: [Fot] FW: Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I just want to share this one, since it?s an option I?d never even heard of before. Maybe it would be useful for others? Looking at the site, it seems like it would be pretty easy and useful if you?re not in any particular hurry. Scott (B.) From: Susan Kahler Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 9:44 AM To: Barr, Scott Subject: Re: [Fot] Shipping Options? Hi there! I have had success with having things hauled through (and sometimes hauling for) this site: https://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/haulquery.pl, if it helps you. I hope you guys are doing well in this weird world! Susan :) On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 10:29 AM Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? 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URL: From spitlist at cox.net Fri Dec 4 12:19:46 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 12:19:46 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear shocks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1224082486.417024.1607109587056@myemail.cox.net> Without the rotating mass of the rotoflex joints, you should be able to use the same shocks as the non-rotoflex cars use, and the same attaching points. > On December 4, 2020 at 7:41 AM Jason Sukey via Fot wrote: > > Greetings FOT, > On my GT6 MK3 racecar, (rotoflex halfshafts have been replaced with Datsun u-jointed shafts), I'd like to relocate the rear upper shock mount from the standard wheel arch sheet metal mount inboard to the frame, using the mounting points already there for the spitfire/gt6 swing axle shock mounts. Since the big rotoflex joints aren't there, it looks like I'll have plenty of clearance. > > This will shorten the distance between mounting points significantly, I expect the Rotoflex length shocks will bottom out. Does anyone know if the "off the shelf" swing axle length shocks (Koni or Spax) will work for this? > > Jason > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From spitlist at cox.net Fri Dec 4 12:17:29 2020 From: spitlist at cox.net (JOE CURRY) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 12:17:29 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear shocks In-Reply-To: <761912291.2848122.1607097765582@mail.yahoo.com> References: <761912291.2848122.1607097765582@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <324050796.416986.1607109449122@myemail.cox.net> If those are the same sort of brackets sold by the TSSC, the stockshocks won't work. You have to purchase a specific shock to use with that bracket. The shock mount brackets I designed will in fact use the stock Rotoflex shocks. http://www.spitlist.info/Shock.Mounts.htm Joe > On December 4, 2020 at 9:02 AM ralph hansen via Fot wrote: > > > Hello Jason, > > Rimmer Bros has brackets you can buy to move the shock mounts on bodies that have rotted out wheel arc mounts - bolts to the frame where the upper shock bolts to it on roto cars - you could then use your current shocks - otherwise, standard Spit/GT shocks should work - they did the longer ones to clear the roto joints - best bet is to try and keep the shocks as upright as possible, provides better shock movement (up/down) and more direct response by the shock itself > > > Cheers > Ralph > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 08:46:29 AM CST, Jason Sukey via Fot wrote: > > > Greetings FOT, > On my GT6 MK3 racecar, (rotoflex halfshafts have been replaced with Datsun u-jointed shafts), I'd like to relocate the rear upper shock mount from the standard wheel arch sheet metal mount inboard to the frame, using the mounting points already there for the spitfire/gt6 swing axle shock mounts. Since the big rotoflex joints aren't there, it looks like I'll have plenty of clearance. > > This will shorten the distance between mounting points significantly, I expect the Rotoflex length shocks will bottom out. Does anyone know if the "off the shelf" swing axle length shocks (Koni or Spax) will work for this? > > Jason > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitlist at cox.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? > > Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? > > Scott (B.) > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 4msonset at gmail.com Fri Dec 4 12:40:27 2020 From: 4msonset at gmail.com (J Wagner) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 11:40:27 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> References: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Many years ago I had a rebuilt overdrive shipped to me in a cardboard box weight minimal packing material to protect it. It arrived with the part of the aluminum gear box that supports the stick shift snapped off. It had to have fallen hard. That cardboard box offered little protection. Do take the time to crate it up. If you?re handy, think about minimizing weight. I went overboard during that incident and built a heavy, heavy duty crate to ship the broken trans back in so that it?s replacement would be shipped back in that crate! No doubt, that extra weight cost money! (I don?t recall the shipper and costs.) Add handles or whatever helps to make it easier for shippers to move it safely. > On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Joe via Fot wrote: > > I shipped a Miata trans to be rebuilt this year via UPS for $150 (95#}. Since it was going to be shipped back me I bought and used a transmission shipping box (Amazon about $100). I have heard of people using igloo coolers to ship trans. Might be less than the fee to have pack and ship pack it? > > If you set up a UPS account you get lower shipping rates than retail. Joe B. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio. Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? >> >> Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? >> >> Scott (B.) >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/4msonset at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Fri Dec 4 13:20:42 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 20:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: References: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1590944055.2922592.1607113242407@mail.yahoo.com> HaHa this is minimal packing, a volvo block that was recently shipped to me UPS.Yeah, wrapped in plastic. Needless to say, it was returned.Shipper didn't understand how they could have broken it...Glen Efinger corner of the pan rail -----Original Message----- From: J Wagner via Fot To: Joe Cc: Amici Triumphi Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2020 2:40 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Shipping Options? Many years ago I had a rebuilt overdrive shipped to me in a cardboard box weight minimal packing material to protect it. ?It arrived with the part of the aluminum gear box that supports the stick shift snapped off. ? ?It had to have fallen hard. ?That cardboard box offered little protection. Do take the time to crate it up. ?If you?re handy, think about minimizing weight. ?I went overboard during that incident and built a heavy, heavy duty crate to ship the broken trans back in so that it?s replacement would be shipped back in that crate! ?No doubt, that extra weight cost money! ? (I don?t recall the shipper and costs.) Add handles or whatever helps to make it easier for shippers to move it safely. On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Joe via Fot wrote: I shipped a Miata trans to be rebuilt this year via UPS for $150 (95#}. ?Since it was going to be shipped back me I bought and used a transmission shipping box (Amazon about $100). ?I have heard of people using igloo coolers to ship trans. ?Might be less than the fee to have pack and ship pack it? If you set up a UPS account you get lower shipping rates than retail. ?Joe B.? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? #yiv9326600666 #yiv9326600666 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv9326600666 #yiv9326600666 p.yiv9326600666MsoNormal, #yiv9326600666 li.yiv9326600666MsoNormal, #yiv9326600666 div.yiv9326600666MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv9326600666 span.yiv9326600666EmailStyle17 {font-family:sans-serif;color:black;position:relative;letter-spacing:0pt;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}#yiv9326600666 .yiv9326600666MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv9326600666 div.yiv9326600666WordSection1 {}#yiv9326600666 So, I need to ship a Spitfire non-OD trans from Wisconsin to Ohio.? Is there a better way to do that than taking it down to my local ?pack-n-ship? store where it always seems to cost a mint? ? Or, in the alternative, is there anyone headed past Wisconsin and through Ohio anytime soon? ? Scott (B.) _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/4msonset at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I made steel corner brackets that were on the inside (since UPS does not like a lot of exposed metal) and used cap screws.? I secured the axle housing inside the crate.? I could have done the same for a transmission crate, but was too lazy to make the metal brackets.?? There is a UPS upcharge of about $5 for shipping a parcel that is not in cardboard.? JoeB On Friday, December 4, 2020, 02:40:33 PM EST, J Wagner <4msonset at gmail.com> wrote: Many years ago I had a rebuilt overdrive shipped to me in a cardboard box weight minimal packing material to protect it. ?It arrived with the part of the aluminum gear box that supports the stick shift snapped off. ? ?It had to have fallen hard. ?That cardboard box offered little protection. Do take the time to crate it up. ?If you?re handy, think about minimizing weight. ?I went overboard during that incident and built a heavy, heavy duty crate to ship the broken trans back in so that it?s replacement would be shipped back in that crate! ?No doubt, that extra weight cost money! ? (I don?t recall the shipper and costs.) Add handles or whatever helps to make it easier for shippers to move it safely. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Fri Dec 4 15:08:18 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 14:08:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Shipping Options? In-Reply-To: <1555953945.4566231.1607116233349@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2ABEE681-C318-4BC0-8CFC-0F07EEB4C96E@yahoo.com> <1555953945.4566231.1607116233349@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1375180219.91070.1607119698657@connect.xfinity.com> I made a plywood box to ship a TR2-4 block. The plywood was bolted directly to the top, bottom, front and back of the block with the bolt heads recessed. I cut slotted holes to be used as handles. The box was only the thickness of the plywood against the flat surfaces larger than the block. It was very tight and secure. I think the total weight was around 150 lbs. If I remember correctly, the block weighs 140 lbs. with the main caps. Same weight as a bale of hay. In the end I did not have to ship it, but I still have the custom box. Dave H > On 12/04/2020 1:10 PM Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > > > I started out making a crate with 2x4s. Made the frame and then was going to cover it with plywood. Before I even got to the plywood, the crate weighed over 50#. I took it apart and bought the plastic transmission shipping box. > > When I shipped a TR3 rear axle for the Southwick conversion I made a plywood crate. I made steel corner brackets that were on the inside (since UPS does not like a lot of exposed metal) and used cap screws. I secured the axle housing inside the crate. I could have done the same for a transmission crate, but was too lazy to make the metal brackets. > > There is a UPS upcharge of about $5 for shipping a parcel that is not in cardboard. JoeB > > On Friday, December 4, 2020, 02:40:33 PM EST, J Wagner <4msonset at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Many years ago I had a rebuilt overdrive shipped to me in a cardboard box weight minimal packing material to protect it. It arrived with the part of the aluminum gear box that supports the stick shift snapped off. It had to have fallen hard. That cardboard box offered little protection. > > Do take the time to crate it up. If you?re handy, think about minimizing weight. I went overboard during that incident and built a heavy, heavy duty crate to ship the broken trans back in so that it?s replacement would be shipped back in that crate! No doubt, that extra weight cost money! (I don?t recall the shipper and costs.) > > Add handles or whatever helps to make it easier for shippers to move it safely. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertten1 at aol.com Sat Dec 5 20:03:13 2020 From: robertten1 at aol.com (robertten1 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 03:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <55353083.4876454.1607223793134@mail.yahoo.com> Amici, Herald to GT6 rear spring inquiries ???? Not sure if my experience will be of any help as in my search to find a suitable answer for my own Spitfire.? A tribute car to the factory endurance cars of '64 and '65 built around a GT6 body on a spitfire chassis.? I'm using a 4:11 diff with a quaife LSD and for the spring I am using a Composite Spring from Flex-A-Form out of South Carolina.? This spring is rated at 250 lbs. and is much lighter than the steel units available for our cars.?? With all the many options and ideas for set-ups and modifications for the rear springs one has to consider the final use for our car.? Mine is for autocrossing and the one thing that has helped the most was finally switching to this composite spring .? I have about 3 degrees of negative camber and the car corners flatter in the corners without the notorious inside wheel lift and tuck. Handling has much improved in the car, at least for this autocrosser.? I did not op for the camber compensator as ground clearance is reduced as I drive my car on the street occasionally.Of note, when used the late swing spring on my car I was also using a 3/4" thick spacer block between the diff and spring to help achieve the 3 degrees negative camber.?? Late Spit Swing Spring, heavy duty Spit spring, modified and de-cambered Spit and GT6 Springs these are the common offerings .? This composite spring is something different as well as some instance of coil over conversions done by some ingenious owners. Cheers and good luck,Bob T'64 Spit GT autocrosser -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Walje via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 1:53 pm Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring Merry Christmas to all. Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6?? (Non roto-flex) I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. Any ideas on what is best?? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. How about a camber compensator?? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. Thanks in advance Dennis Walje 1968 GT6 Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Sat Dec 5 21:53:21 2020 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 14:53:21 +1000 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: <55353083.4876454.1607223793134@mail.yahoo.com> References: <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6.ref@sbcglobal.net> <6615576B-86E7-45B7-8BD5-FA2484C612D6@sbcglobal.net> <55353083.4876454.1607223793134@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On our race Gt6, we have a hybrid system. we have coil over shocks plus a single transverse leaf mainly to comply with rules that say the original spring location must remain!! years ago we tried a swing spring but did not like it on circuit Terry Australia On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Bob Totten via Fot wrote: > Amici, > > Herald to GT6 rear spring inquiries ??? Not sure if my experience will be > of any help as in my search to find a suitable answer for my own Spitfire. > A tribute car to the factory endurance cars of '64 and '65 built around a > GT6 body on a spitfire chassis. I'm using a 4:11 diff with a quaife LSD > and for the spring I am using a Composite Spring from Flex-A-Form out of > South Carolina. This spring is rated at 250 lbs. and is much lighter than > the steel units available for our cars. > > With all the many options and ideas for set-ups and modifications for the > rear springs one has to consider the final use for our car. Mine is for > autocrossing and the one thing that has helped the most was finally > switching to this composite spring . I have about 3 degrees of negative > camber and the car corners flatter in the corners without the notorious > inside wheel lift and tuck. Handling has much improved in the car, at least > for this autocrosser. I did not op for the camber compensator as ground > clearance is reduced as I drive my car on the street occasionally. > Of note, when used the late swing spring on my car I was also using a 3/4" > thick spacer block between the diff and spring to help achieve the 3 > degrees negative camber. > > Late Spit Swing Spring, heavy duty Spit spring, modified and de-cambered > Spit and GT6 Springs these are the common offerings . This composite > spring is something different as well as some instance of coil over > conversions done by some ingenious owners. > > Cheers and good luck, > Bob T > '64 Spit GT autocrosser > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dennis Walje via Fot > To: fot at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 1:53 pm > Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring > > > Merry Christmas to all. > > Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 > GT6? (Non roto-flex) > > I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. > The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. > > Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner > performance manual but cannot locate retailer. > > How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due > to replace. > > Thanks in advance > > Dennis Walje > 1968 GT6 > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They both could be vintage raced but would require removing the fiberglass to be legal.Thank you all for the interest and some of you with some specific parts request I will follow back up with you or hit me up again!Thanks Chris Crisenbery?Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From walje at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 6 18:46:48 2020 From: walje at sbcglobal.net (Dennis Walje) Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 19:46:48 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D2F50C4-808C-48F9-ACDD-2D464C95091E@sbcglobal.net> Thanks to all for responses on swing spring. I appreciate the great advice. I have ordered a camber compensator from Apex2Apex. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 5, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: > > ? > On our race Gt6, we have a hybrid system. we have coil over shocks plus a single transverse leaf mainly to comply with rules that say the original spring location must remain!! > > years ago we tried a swing spring but did not like it on circuit > > Terry > Australia > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 1:10 PM Bob Totten via Fot wrote: >> Amici, >> >> Herald to GT6 rear spring inquiries ??? Not sure if my experience will be of any help as in my search to find a suitable answer for my own Spitfire. A tribute car to the factory endurance cars of '64 and '65 built around a GT6 body on a spitfire chassis. I'm using a 4:11 diff with a quaife LSD and for the spring I am using a Composite Spring from Flex-A-Form out of South Carolina. This spring is rated at 250 lbs. and is much lighter than the steel units available for our cars. >> >> With all the many options and ideas for set-ups and modifications for the rear springs one has to consider the final use for our car. Mine is for autocrossing and the one thing that has helped the most was finally switching to this composite spring . I have about 3 degrees of negative camber and the car corners flatter in the corners without the notorious inside wheel lift and tuck. Handling has much improved in the car, at least for this autocrosser. I did not op for the camber compensator as ground clearance is reduced as I drive my car on the street occasionally. >> Of note, when used the late swing spring on my car I was also using a 3/4" thick spacer block between the diff and spring to help achieve the 3 degrees negative camber. >> >> Late Spit Swing Spring, heavy duty Spit spring, modified and de-cambered Spit and GT6 Springs these are the common offerings . This composite spring is something different as well as some instance of coil over conversions done by some ingenious owners. >> >> Cheers and good luck, >> Bob T >> '64 Spit GT autocrosser >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dennis Walje via Fot >> To: fot at autox.team.net >> Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 1:53 pm >> Subject: [Fot] Mk 1 swing spring >> >> >> Merry Christmas to all. >> >> Does anyone have any experience with a ?swing spring? upgrade for a Mk 1 GT6? (Non roto-flex) >> >> I am looking for best way to deal with rear camber extremes on my 68 GT6. The rear suspension at completely stock at this time. >> >> Any ideas on what is best? I found a part number in the Kastner performance manual but cannot locate retailer. >> >> How about a camber compensator? Rear spring is original, so probably due to replace. >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> Dennis Walje >> 1968 GT6 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walje at sbcglobal.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Mon Dec 7 11:34:17 2020 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 12:34:17 -0600 Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions Message-ID: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right? Seems excessive to me. Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPhone From dlhogye at comcast.net Mon Dec 7 12:32:35 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 11:32:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions In-Reply-To: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> References: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1598627704.103277.1607369556146@connect.xfinity.com> Hi Greg, The sleeve is usually loose on the pin. The manual says to not tighten the outer pin support bracket until the vehicle is on the ground and the suspension fully weighted. I always put a piece of blue or yellow painters tape on fasteners that aren't torqued or tightened right away as a reminder to go back to the later. Dave H. > On 12/07/2020 10:34 AM Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > > > It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right? Seems excessive to me. > > Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? > > Thanks. > > Greg > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net From fubog1 at aol.com Mon Dec 7 13:08:49 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 20:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions In-Reply-To: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> References: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> Message-ID: <1826124956.3404307.1607371729768@mail.yahoo.com> The sleeve locks down when the nut is tightened, the nylon bushes pressed in the A-arms; the relative movement is between the steel OD & ID of the bush.Clearance between the ID of the steel & the pivot pin isn't part of the equation. Or I may be misunderstanding the concern...HTH Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake via Fot To: Fot Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 1:34 pm Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right?? Seems excessive to me. Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Mon Dec 7 13:36:52 2020 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:36:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions In-Reply-To: <1826124956.3404307.1607371729768@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5D21C722-B064-4C60-B380-D1AE1E2460FE@icloud.com> <1826124956.3404307.1607371729768@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1363517783.20528937.1607373412816.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Glen, I believe you are right, the steel bushes don't move or rotate on the pins. B.t.w. the nylon (Nylatron) bushes are ok and much better than the original rubber ones wich had to be replaced frequently. Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Maandag 7 december 2020 21:08:49 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions The sleeve locks down when the nut is tightened, the nylon bushes pressed in the A-arms; the relative movement is between the steel OD & ID of the bush. Clearance between the ID of the steel & the pivot pin isn't part of the equation. Or I may be misunderstanding the concern... HTH Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Greg Blake via Fot To: Fot Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 1:34 pm Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right? Seems excessive to me. Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com ] _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Mon Dec 7 19:12:31 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 21:12:31 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions In-Reply-To: <1363517783.20528937.1607373412816.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <1363517783.20528937.1607373412816.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: While you have it apart, it would be a good idea to add grease fittings to the inner lower control arm pivots. It makes for squeak-free running. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:38 PM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot wrote: > > ? > Glen, I believe you are right, the steel bushes don't move or rotate on the pins. > B.t.w. the nylon (Nylatron) bushes are ok and much better than the original rubber ones wich had to be replaced frequently. > Marcel > > Van: "fot" > Aan: "fot" > Verzonden: Maandag 7 december 2020 21:08:49 > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions > > The sleeve locks down when the nut is tightened, the nylon bushes pressed in the A-arms; the relative movement is between the steel OD & ID of the bush. > Clearance between the ID of the steel & the pivot pin isn't part of the equation. > > Or I may be misunderstanding the concern... > HTH > > Glen Efinger > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Blake via Fot > To: Fot > Sent: Mon, Dec 7, 2020 1:34 pm > Subject: [Fot] TR3 front end rebuild questions > > It?s been awhile since I?ve done this so I have a question about the proper fit of the steel bushing and the fixed cross pin in the lower inner support for the TR3 front suspension. There is about 0.004? clearance between The new steel bushings I have and the suspension cross pin welded to the frame. Once you install a control arm, you can feel this clearance as slop with that one arm installed. I?m assuming the majority of this slop will disappear once I install the remainder of the suspension pieces and bolt them all together. But wanted to ask, does that clearance sound right? Seems excessive to me. > > Are there options to ditch the metal sleeve and nylon insert to get rid of that slop on a TR3? > > Thanks. > > Greg > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not talking about Triumph Parts. Might be useful information to the whole list. We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. Thank you, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From horizonracing at msn.com Wed Dec 9 08:37:21 2020 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 15:37:21 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 Best T Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > From steveadams55 at sky.com Wed Dec 9 08:42:38 2020 From: steveadams55 at sky.com (steveadams55 at sky.com) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 15:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1325052430.4788590.1607528558090@mail.yahoo.com> https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ Hi All,Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper.Pretty sure they ship worldwide best regards from across the pond? On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 Best T Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell:? 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: > > ? > https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ > > Hi All, > Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. > Pretty sure they ship worldwide > > best regards from across the pond > > On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: > > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > Best > T > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > > > ?For Example: > > > > Pegasus > > Summit > > Jegs > > Speedway Motors > > Racers Wholesale > > Etc. > > > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <95AEE3CE-85DD-4289-B43D-522CD07C3A4C@gmail.com> References: <95AEE3CE-85DD-4289-B43D-522CD07C3A4C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> Summit Speedway Pegasus Racer parts wholesale Seymour Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that they are going exclusive to ebay sales. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: >>> >> ? >> https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ >> >> Hi All, >> Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. >> Pretty sure they ship worldwide >> >> best regards from across the pond >> >> On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . >> While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . >> I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 >> >> Best >> T >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> > >> > ?For Example: >> > >> > Pegasus >> > Summit >> > Jegs >> > Speedway Motors >> > Racers Wholesale >> > Etc. >> > >> > Not talking about Triumph Parts. >> > >> > Might be useful information to the whole list. >> > >> > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. >> > >> > Thank you, >> > >> > >> > Joe Alexander >> > 4505 Donald Dr >> > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> > The-vintage-racer.com >> > Gasketinnovations.com >> > Cell: 319.464.4711 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com >> >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Wed Dec 9 08:55:11 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 15:55:11 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> References: <95AEE3CE-85DD-4289-B43D-522CD07C3A4C@gmail.com> <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> Message-ID: Pegasus Spitbits From: Fot On Behalf Of Phil Gott via Fot Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2020 9:53 AM To: Joe Alexander Cc: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. Summit Speedway Pegasus Racer parts wholesale Seymour Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that they are going exclusive to ebay sales. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: ? https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ Hi All, Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. Pretty sure they ship worldwide best regards from across the pond On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot > wrote: Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 Best T Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > > ?For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bschirano1 at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 09:54:55 2020 From: bschirano1 at gmail.com (Brian Schirano) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:54:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: yup, by end of 21 helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220 , my Bell is $500 and seems never on sale Brian add OG Racing Pegasus Summit Jegs Racers Wholesale On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com > > > -- Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Wed Dec 9 10:10:33 2020 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (kekjacobsen) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 11:10:33 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If your Bell fits the shape of your head, the GFORCE won't.? ?Jake's? helmet does not work for me & he has issues with his eyeglasses underneath, and I don't.?KarenSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Brian Schirano via Fot Date: 12/9/20 10:55 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. yup, by end of 21? helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220, my Bell is $500 and seems never on saleBrianadd OG RacingPegasusSummitJegsRacers Wholesale??On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote:For Example: Pegasus Summit Jegs Speedway Motors Racers Wholesale Etc. Not talking about Triumph Parts. Might be useful information to the whole list. We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. Thank you, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com -- Brian Schirano585-305-0349 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Wed Dec 9 10:18:46 2020 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 17:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <20201209171117.86ACFA0793@autox.team.net> References: <20201209171117.86ACFA0793@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <502401265.3888603.1607534326801@mail.yahoo.com> in ref to the comment on helmets fitting or not - having spent 4 years as buyer at Pegasus a few decades back, we called it like this, some people have a Bell head, some a Simpson - different manufacturers helmets, same size etc are usually sligthly different in shape, best to stick with the brand you know fits unless you can walk in and try them on on a side note: I do have access to many of the same items Pegasus and a few others have available on a drop ship to you basis - will also give a FOT discount if possible - am in process of putting together a line card of whats available -- need it in a big hurry, go elsewhere, got a little time try me, I'd appreciate the biz and will do whatever I can to help, one racer to another (semi-retired GT2/3 current, Spit way back when and a few between) RalphApex2Apex Motorsportsapex2apexmotorsports at yahoo.com On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 11:11:18 AM CST, kekjacobsen via Fot wrote: If your Bell fits the shape of your head, the GFORCE won't.? ?Jake's? helmet does not work for me & he has issues with his eyeglasses underneath, and I don't.?Karen Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Brian Schirano via Fot Date: 12/9/20 10:55 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Joe Alexander Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. yup, by end of 21? helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220, my Bell is $500 and seems never on sale Brian add OG Racing Pegasus Summit Jegs Racers Wholesale?? On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: For Example: Pegasus Summit Jegs Speedway Motors Racers Wholesale Etc. Not talking about Triumph Parts. Might be useful information to the whole list. We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. Thank you, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com -- Brian Schirano585-305-0349_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Dec 9 10:32:15 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:32:15 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <36655fc2-d803-c4b6-0fe6-b5fdc82760da@tonydrews.com> I've used both, both worked fine.? One had a short chin strap which caused me to replace, forget if that was a Bell or a G-Force.? The Bell has more robust visor hardware.? I thought the G-Force had better ventilation. It's ideal if you can try the fit before buying, I didn't have that option but it ended up OK. I always buy ones with big eye holes because I wear glasses. Regards, Tony Drews On 12/9/2020 10:54 AM, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: > yup, by end of 21? helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go > shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had > started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force > SA2020 is on sale $220 , my Bell is $500 > and seems never on sale > > Brian > > add OG Racing > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Racers Wholesale > > > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot > > wrote: > > For Example: > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Speedway Motors > Racers Wholesale > Etc. > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > Thank you, > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell:? 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage > : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Brian Schirano > 585-305-0349 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hpspitfire at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 10:34:25 2020 From: hpspitfire at gmail.com (Aaron Johnson) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:34:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: References: <95AEE3CE-85DD-4289-B43D-522CD07C3A4C@gmail.com> <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> Message-ID: I've been using Pit Stop USA - they have great prices, reasonable/free shipping and speed is good. just bought my sa2015 bell dominator 2 on sale for $545 bucks, free delivery and no taxes. aaron On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:56 AM Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: > Pegasus > > Spitbits > > > > *From:* Fot *On Behalf Of *Phil Gott via Fot > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 09, 2020 9:53 AM > *To:* Joe Alexander > *Cc:* fot at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts > and supplies. > > > > Summit > > Speedway > > Pegasus > > Racer parts wholesale > > Seymour > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > > ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that > they are going exclusive to ebay sales. > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: > > ? > > https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ > > > > > Hi All, > > Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally > that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from > the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. > > Pretty sure they ship worldwide > > > > best regards from across the pond > > > > On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot > wrote: > > > > > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk > faster . > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on > ? shipping? . > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > Best > T > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > > > > ?For Example: > > > > Pegasus > > Summit > > Jegs > > Speedway Motors > > Racers Wholesale > > Etc. > > > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/hpspitfire at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grandwazoo at earthlink.net Wed Dec 9 10:44:42 2020 From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:44:42 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. Message-ID: <1243490174.3464.1607535882404@wamui-hyena.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 12:04:09 2020 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:04:09 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <1325052430.4788590.1607528558090@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1325052430.4788590.1607528558090@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: All of those plus Jegs... Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:42 AM, steveadams55--- via Fot wrote: > > ? > https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ > > Hi All, > Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. > Pretty sure they ship worldwide > > best regards from across the pond > > On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: > > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > Best > T > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > > > ?For Example: > > > > Pegasus > > Summit > > Jegs > > Speedway Motors > > Racers Wholesale > > Etc. > > > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Dec 9 12:56:36 2020 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 13:56:36 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts Message-ID: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question...? My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them.? I have a 5 point harness.? Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point harness with two crotch straps.? Of course I have ONE hole in my seat and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? Thanks, Tony Drews From garygret at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 9 13:41:49 2020 From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 20:41:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> References: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> Tony,Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever seen.) I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 points but none require it. Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with any other organizations you run with. Cheers,Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question...? My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them.? I have a 5 point harness.? Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point harness with two crotch straps.? Of course I have ONE hole in my seat and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Wed Dec 9 13:47:50 2020 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 20:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1217630503.3954600.1607546870350@mail.yahoo.com> Tony,I have my 6-points going through the one seat hole then angle out from the center and attached separately through the floor. Never had any tech issues with a number of sanctioning bodies (VARA, CVAR, SVRA, VSCDA).? Jake On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 02:42:45 PM CST, Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Tony,Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever seen.) I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 points but none require it. Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with any other organizations you run with. Cheers,Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question...? My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them.? I have a 5 point harness.? Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point harness with two crotch straps.? Of course I have ONE hole in my seat and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? 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URL: From afterapex at gmail.com Wed Dec 9 13:52:01 2020 From: afterapex at gmail.com (greg powell) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 12:52:01 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1b386c60-054f-0b36-4c6e-0364adce4e9a@tonydrews.com> <128874657.6332138.1607546509076@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9E293E30-F9A1-46C5-AF56-C724182E8E8E@gmail.com> My advice would be to purchase belts that meet or exceed the racing organization's rules and then install them to follow exactly the specifications of the manufacturer. I bet that one anchor point for 2 sub belts is not per manufacturer spec to offer the protection of a 5-point harness only. Greg in Oakland, CA > On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: > > Tony, > Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever seen.) > > I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 points but none require it. > > Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with any other organizations you run with. > > > Cheers, > Gary Schneider > > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > > > The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question... > My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them. I have a 5 > point harness. Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point > harness with two crotch straps. Of course I have ONE hole in my seat > and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. > > How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? > > Thanks, Tony Drews > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/afterapex at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Dec 9 17:39:18 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 19:39:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Seat Belts In-Reply-To: <9E293E30-F9A1-46C5-AF56-C724182E8E8E@gmail.com> References: <9E293E30-F9A1-46C5-AF56-C724182E8E8E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <67DF3DF9-64F4-4814-B082-0E14B8BD7FFF@aol.com> Speaking of belts, if you use the clip-in style, be sure to insert a cotter or split pin in the moveable latch as a safety measure. The pin keeps the latch in place if the spring breaks. Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 3:52 PM, greg powell via Fot wrote: > > ? > My advice would be to purchase belts that meet or exceed the racing organization's rules and then install them to follow exactly the specifications of the manufacturer. > > I bet that one anchor point for 2 sub belts is not per manufacturer spec to offer the protection of a 5-point harness only. > Greg in Oakland, CA > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: >> >> Tony, >> Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever seen.) >> >> I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 points but none require it. >> >> Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with any other organizations you run with. >> >> >> Cheers, >> Gary Schneider >> >> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: >> >> >> The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question... >> My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them. I have a 5 >> point harness. Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point >> harness with two crotch straps. Of course I have ONE hole in my seat >> and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently. >> >> How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation? >> >> Thanks, Tony Drews >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/afterapex at gmail.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPad > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > Best > T > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> ?For Example: >> >> Pegasus >> Summit >> Jegs >> Speedway Motors >> Racers Wholesale >> Etc. >> >> Not talking about Triumph Parts. >> >> Might be useful information to the whole list. >> >> We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > From rkramer56 at gmail.com Thu Dec 10 05:52:34 2020 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 06:52:34 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <839329C0-2F66-470C-ACEE-02098E295807@comcast.net> References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> <839329C0-2F66-470C-ACEE-02098E295807@comcast.net> Message-ID: All things being equal it is important to support our niche suppliers. BFE, TSI, GoodParts and many others come to mind, as two that I buy from. I also have to consider Sales Tax in the calculation. Summit has an operation in Texas so everything I buy from them is taxed 8.25%. My daughter lives a few miles away from the showroom and I have made multiple trips to pick up stuff, tax and all. It is a cool place to visit. I think I have used about 90% of the mentioned suppliers over the years. and my list is very familiar: I out them in the order of the dollars I guess I've spent with each. Speedway Motors Summit Racing Jeg's Pegasus PitStop USA We, as a group, are probably not as big a customer base niche for the Triumph suppliers who focus on street cars but they do carry parts we need. I used to buy everything I could from the Roadster Factory but my business with them shrinks unless I am building a car. They are still my favorite supplier but I have used Moss more lately. I can find some stuff I can't get elsewhere from Moss UK and do the occasional business with Racetorations and Cambridge Motorsports. Bob Kramer On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:48 PM Dave via Fot wrote: > I like Summit because selection is huge and shipping is free over $100 and > I can often get the items the next day if they come from Reno. However, > sometimes the item and description is difficult to find, I have to look to > the manufacturer first to find the exact part and correct number, which > usually translates to the Summit number. > Pegasus is good for certain items not found at Summit. > Cheers, > Dave H. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk > faster . > > While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors > on ? shipping? . > > I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 > > > > Best > > T > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > >> > >> ?For Example: > >> > >> Pegasus > >> Summit > >> Jegs > >> Speedway Motors > >> Racers Wholesale > >> Etc. > >> > >> Not talking about Triumph Parts. > >> > >> Might be useful information to the whole list. > >> > >> We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> > >> Joe Alexander > >> 4505 Donald Dr > >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > >> The-vintage-racer.com > >> Gasketinnovations.com > >> Cell: 319.464.4711 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Thu Dec 10 07:07:14 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:07:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> References: <7ABE354B-B6CC-4820-A6C9-95A40B4FE118@aol.com> Message-ID: <7E3BE154-C8AC-4E1E-A764-3A316933894B@yahoo.com> Summit, Pegasus, and Pit Stop US, mostly for me. If you are ever traveling thru NE Ohio, Summit is worth the stop. Quite the candy store. I have also bought from Behrents, which is about 80 miles NW of NYC. They have a well stocked retail store. Nice that you can check things out, try them on, etc. Joe B Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > ?Summit > Speedway > Pegasus > Racer parts wholesale > Seymour > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> >> ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that they are going exclusive to ebay sales. >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: >>>> >>> ? >>> https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ >>> >>> Hi All, >>> Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. >>> Pretty sure they ship worldwide >>> >>> best regards from across the pond >>> >>> On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . >>> While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . >>> I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 >>> >>> Best >>> T >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> > >>> > ?For Example: >>> > >>> > Pegasus >>> > Summit >>> > Jegs >>> > Speedway Motors >>> > Racers Wholesale >>> > Etc. >>> > >>> > Not talking about Triumph Parts. >>> > >>> > Might be useful information to the whole list. >>> > >>> > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. >>> > >>> > Thank you, >>> > >>> > >>> > Joe Alexander >>> > 4505 Donald Dr >>> > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> > The-vintage-racer.com >>> > Gasketinnovations.com >>> > Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > fot at autox.team.net >>> > >>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>> > >>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com >>> >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfetta95 at optonline.net Thu Dec 10 07:44:41 2020 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 09:44:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <7E3BE154-C8AC-4E1E-A764-3A316933894B@yahoo.com> References: <7E3BE154-C8AC-4E1E-A764-3A316933894B@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1E78DCFB-D362-4504-AE30-A08694AAE38C@optonline.net> To all: I use Bruce?s Speed Shop in Rockaway NJ. They carry or can get just about anything we need. Usually at better prices You can also try on Helmets to get the best fit. Also use Pegasus Racer Parts Wholesale Summit Todd > On Dec 10, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Joe via Fot wrote: > > ?Summit, Pegasus, and Pit Stop US, mostly for me. If you are ever traveling thru NE Ohio, Summit is worth the stop. Quite the candy store. > > I have also bought from Behrents, which is about 80 miles NW of NYC. They have a well stocked retail store. Nice that you can check things out, try them on, etc. > Joe B > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>> >> ?Summit >> Speedway >> Pegasus >> Racer parts wholesale >> Seymour >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>>> >>> ?Thanks Steve....Note: I went to their website and they have a notice that they are going exclusive to ebay sales. >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> >>>>> On Dec 9, 2020, at 9:42 AM, steveadams55 at sky.com wrote: >>>>> >>>> ? >>>> https://www.jjcraceandrally.com/ >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> Demon Tweeks have a little known sister company called JJC race and Rally that sells all the same stuff but at better prices, the products come from the same supply chain/warehouse but are a bit cheaper. >>>> Pretty sure they ship worldwide >>>> >>>> best regards from across the pond >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, 9 December 2020, 15:37:28 GMT, Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Nothing against Pegasus- can get same items from Demon Tweeks in the Uk faster . >>>> While we are on the subject, anyone else get ripped off by Moss motors on ? shipping? . >>>> I just had a $6 US Mail pre paid box delivered for a whooping $27 :-0 >>>> >>>> Best >>>> T >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> > On Dec 9, 2020, at 7:28 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>>> > >>>> > ?For Example: >>>> > >>>> > Pegasus >>>> > Summit >>>> > Jegs >>>> > Speedway Motors >>>> > Racers Wholesale >>>> > Etc. >>>> > >>>> > Not talking about Triumph Parts. >>>> > >>>> > Might be useful information to the whole list. >>>> > >>>> > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. >>>> > >>>> > Thank you, >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Joe Alexander >>>> > 4505 Donald Dr >>>> > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>>> > The-vintage-racer.com >>>> > Gasketinnovations.com >>>> > Cell: 319.464.4711 >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > fot at autox.team.net >>>> > >>>> > http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> > >>>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/horizonracing at msn.com >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220, my Bell is $500 and seems never on sale Brian add OG Racing Pegasus Summit Jegs Racers Wholesale?? On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: For Example: Pegasus Summit Jegs Speedway Motors Racers Wholesale Etc. Not talking about Triumph Parts. Might be useful information to the whole list. We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. 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URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Fri Dec 11 07:58:47 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 06:58:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Poll: What is your favorite source of racing parts and supplies. In-Reply-To: <1555516050.6888290.1607659473608@mail.yahoo.com> References: <37C54969-5476-413D-AEAF-7C31701D3AFA@gmail.com> <1555516050.6888290.1607659473608@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <565463581.110842.1607698727696@connect.xfinity.com> Sometimes, inexpensive and cheap mean the same thing. Dave H. > On 12/10/2020 8:04 PM Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > > > My son had a G-force helmet, which is expiring now, but did not hold up well. The side pads had been falling off for years. Often when putting the helmet on, a pad would be knocked loose and he would need to take it off the try to secure the pad in, on the false grid. I never had any such issues with my Bell helmets. His new helmet is a Bell. Joe B > > On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 11:56:04 AM EST, Brian Schirano via Fot wrote: > > > yup, by end of 21 helmet and belts will have expired, will need to go shopping. On the subject, any opinions on G-Force helmets. I had started looking until was told my 2010 is good til end of 21. G-Force SA2020 is on sale $220 https://www.ogracing.com/ , my Bell is $500 and seems never on sale > > Brian > > add OG Racing > > Pegasus > Summit > Jegs > Racers Wholesale > > > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM Joe Alexander via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > For Example: > > > > Pegasus > > Summit > > Jegs > > Speedway Motors > > Racers Wholesale > > Etc. > > > > Not talking about Triumph Parts. > > > > Might be useful information to the whole list. > > > > We use Pegasus and Summit, frequently. > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage > > : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Brian Schirano > 585-305-0349 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Thu Dec 17 18:54:15 2020 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 19:54:15 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? References: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460.ref@cs.com> Message-ID: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> Might have a buyer. Thanks, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From mikegranat9 at gmail.com Thu Dec 17 21:31:45 2020 From: mikegranat9 at gmail.com (Mike Granat) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 20:31:45 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? In-Reply-To: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> References: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460.ref@cs.com> <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> Message-ID: Hi Joe, Tony Garmey has a beaut! I have raced against it in my +4 and it is strong, fast, and reliable. Mike On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 5:59 PM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > Might have a buyer. > > Thanks, > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mikegranat9 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Fri Dec 18 10:59:09 2020 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 10:59:09 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? In-Reply-To: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> References: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460.ref@cs.com> <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> Message-ID: <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> Anyone else miss the origins of this thread but wish they?d seen it? > On Dec 17, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > Might have a buyer. > > Thanks, > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net > > Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) From terrysopher at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 11:51:26 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 13:51:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? In-Reply-To: <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> References: <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> Message-ID: <493E7A50-FB87-42D4-8099-19416B272699@gmail.com> Yep! > On Dec 18, 2020, at 13:02, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: > > ?Anyone else miss the origins of this thread but wish they?d seen it? > > >> On Dec 17, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> Might have a buyer. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi at comcast.net >> >> > > Bud Rolofson > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From horizonracing at msn.com Fri Dec 18 12:01:34 2020 From: horizonracing at msn.com (Tony and Annie Garmey) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 19:01:34 +0000 Subject: [Fot] TR4 Message-ID: A reluctant sale ... Incredibly clean car ! All the ? right? bits in the right places . Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 Thanks [cid:41564FE0-BBDF-4503-A378-FBCE65C73E02] Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0397.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 153228 bytes Desc: IMG_0397.JPG URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Fri Dec 18 12:46:23 2020 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 14:46:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: How about a summary of the "bits" and some lap times? Thanks John Styduhar On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:07 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > A reluctant sale ... > > Incredibly clean car ! > > All the ? right? bits in the right places . > > > > Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! > Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 > > Thanks > > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks John Styduhar > >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:07 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot wrote: >> A reluctant sale ... >> >> Incredibly clean car ! >> >> All the ? right? bits in the right places . >> >> >> >> Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! >> Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/agb at compsnw.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Fri Dec 18 13:20:56 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 13:20:56 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Anyone have a TR4 Race Car for Sale? In-Reply-To: <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> References: <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460.ref@cs.com> <874B0756-C96A-4BB5-B822-A392CAB2D460@cs.com> <9CAF2912-800C-44C7-AE9D-AA77395A6E45@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9a04e2e3-c405-3a84-6ebf-e4bf01a22e28@bradakis.com> On 12/18/20 10:59 AM, Bud Rolofson via Fot wrote: > Anyone else miss the origins of this thread but wish they?d seen it? > > Odd.? It looks like all the related posts are in the archives ( link below, for real time readers ).? Wish I knew what was happening, if it is something on my end or yours? mjb. From atr6racer at hotmail.com Fri Dec 18 14:07:57 2020 From: atr6racer at hotmail.com (Sam Halkias) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 21:07:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Fw: TR4 body In-Reply-To: <968761152.2314139.1608320062863@mail.yahoo.com> References: <968761152.2314139.1608320062863.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <968761152.2314139.1608320062863@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A good friend of mine came across this TR4 body. If anyone has any interest please contact John Mills, Sam Halkias ________________________________ From: John Mills Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 2:34 PM To: Sam Halkias ; Robert Johns Subject: TR4 body Do you guys know of anyone interested in this? I don't know the guy but it caught my attention . Triumph TR4A body tub and parts [https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/23/logos/facebook.png] Triumph TR4A body tub and parts Triumph TR4A body tub, its not perfect, needs some repair work, rockers need repaired/replaced, also have tons o... 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Triumph TR4A body tub and parts > > > Triumph TR4A body tub and parts > > Triumph TR4A body tub, its not perfect, needs some repair work, rockers > need repaired/replaced, also have tons o... > > > > > > > > *John Mills * > > *http://www.johnmillsracing.com* > *http://www.johnmillstbi.com* > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com Fri Dec 18 14:40:52 2020 From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 15:40:52 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> Amici, It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 1955 EP TR3 #72 281-871-9623 From dlhogye at comcast.net Fri Dec 18 14:54:55 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 13:54:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] TR4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <275143156.146748.1608328495688@connect.xfinity.com> Here is the TR4 in action during the 2016 Sonoma Kastner Cup qualifying race. The car is really nice...and fast. Dave H. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vjXmt3TItw&t=224s > On 12/18/2020 11:46 AM John Styduhar via Fot wrote: > > > How about a summary of the "bits" and some lap times? Thanks John Styduhar > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:07 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > A reluctant sale ... > > > > Incredibly clean car ! > > > > All the ? right? bits in the right places . > > > > > > > > Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! > > Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks John Styduhar > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:07 PM Tony and Annie Garmey via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > A reluctant sale ... > > > > Incredibly clean car ! > > > > All the ? right? bits in the right places . > > > > > > > > Not cheap - serious inquiries only please !! > > Tx me directly at 206 612 1782 > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Mike On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > Amici, > > It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not > finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. > > I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low > profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to > exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. > About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with > motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any > idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, > but I?d rather not pay for custom. > > Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size > for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of > compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or > photos. > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com > > > -- *Mike Deweerd* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lotusgagne at rogers.com Fri Dec 18 15:17:41 2020 From: lotusgagne at rogers.com (CLAUDE GAGNE) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 22:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3544765.1558257.1608329861468@mail.yahoo.com> I have owned a 7x14 Neo motorcycle trailer for 10 years and am very happy with it. All aluminum, low roof (less than 6 ft) so tows real nice with my small pick-up truck. Enough room for a small car. No affiliation, just a happy customer! See:?https://neotrailers.com/trailer_nam.php Claude? On Friday, December 18, 2020, 05:06:58 p.m. EST, Michael Deweerd via Fot wrote: Why not enclose your open trailer??Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car.?Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol?More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer.?Cheers?Mike? On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: Amici, It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. 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URL: From rek46 at aol.com Fri Dec 18 15:32:07 2020 From: rek46 at aol.com (rek46) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 22:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> how much??In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:? Why not enclose your open trailer??Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car.?Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol?More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer.?Cheers?Mike? On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: Amici, It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 1955 EP TR3 #72 281-871-9623 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com -- Mike Deweerd_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com Sat Dec 19 11:41:30 2020 From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 18:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <355392267.2547618.1608403290228@mail.yahoo.com> Thanks everyone for the ideas on a low profile enclosed trailer and for those of you inquiring about my open trailer for sale.? Here are the details: - Custom built 2010 - All aluminum (except for steel tongue) - 24.5' total length, 16.5' bed, 4' tool box - Electric brakes - Tires about 3 or 4 years old - Axles are about a foot further back than normal which makes for very smooth towing with lots of tongue weight.? Even empty I can't pick up the tongue by myself. - Cost $10,000 to have made.? Will sell for $5,000. - Houston, Texas - Photo attached Thanks,Dusty Nicholson1955 EP TR3 #72281-871-9623 On Friday, December 18, 2020, 04:33:18 PM CST, rek46 via Fot wrote: how much??In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:? Why not enclose your open trailer??Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car.?Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol?More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer.?Cheers?Mike? On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: Amici, It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 1955 EP TR3 #72 281-871-9623 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com -- Mike Deweerd_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I liked the idea but not the execution, if I hadn?t already built my airstream hauler I would have built a trailer like yours with a streamlined aluminum nose (just V-shaped) with an aluminum roof, fabric sides and an aluminum back door/ramp. There is a light low profile trailer designed by Pete Brock called the Aerovault. Kind of cool but I?m too tall to want one. https://www.bre2.net/aerovault.info/ > On Dec 19, 2020, at 10:41 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the ideas on a low profile enclosed trailer and for those of you inquiring about my open trailer for sale. Here are the details: > > Custom built 2010 > All aluminum (except for steel tongue) > 24.5' total length, 16.5' bed, 4' tool box > Electric brakes > Tires about 3 or 4 years old > Axles are about a foot further back than normal which makes for very smooth towing with lots of tongue weight. Even empty I can't pick up the tongue by myself. > Cost $10,000 to have made. Will sell for $5,000. > Houston, Texas > Photo attached > Thanks, > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > > > On Friday, December 18, 2020, 04:33:18 PM CST, rek46 via Fot wrote: > > > how much? > > In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: > > Why not enclose your open trailer? > Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car. > Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol > More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer. > Cheers > Mike > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot > wrote: > Amici, > > It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. > > I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. > > Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com > > > -- > Mike Deweerd > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ponobill at gmail.com Sat Dec 19 12:33:20 2020 From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 11:33:20 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: <355392267.2547618.1608403290228@mail.yahoo.com> References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> <355392267.2547618.1608403290228@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The price is a bit of a mystery, but one sold on Bring A Trailer recently for 21K https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2013-peter-brock-bre-bre-aerovault-mark-1-trailer/ > On Dec 19, 2020, at 10:41 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: > > Thanks everyone for the ideas on a low profile enclosed trailer and for those of you inquiring about my open trailer for sale. Here are the details: > > Custom built 2010 > All aluminum (except for steel tongue) > 24.5' total length, 16.5' bed, 4' tool box > Electric brakes > Tires about 3 or 4 years old > Axles are about a foot further back than normal which makes for very smooth towing with lots of tongue weight. Even empty I can't pick up the tongue by myself. > Cost $10,000 to have made. Will sell for $5,000. > Houston, Texas > Photo attached > Thanks, > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > > > On Friday, December 18, 2020, 04:33:18 PM CST, rek46 via Fot wrote: > > > how much? > > In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: > > Why not enclose your open trailer? > Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car. > Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol > More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer. > Cheers > Mike > > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot > wrote: > Amici, > > It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. > > I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. > > Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. > > Thanks, > > Dusty Nicholson > 1955 EP TR3 #72 > 281-871-9623 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com > > > -- > Mike Deweerd > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fmccjr at aol.com Sat Dec 19 13:38:58 2020 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:38:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Looking for a trailer In-Reply-To: References: <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB.ref@yahoo.com> <19BC8832-BCEC-4A0F-8B82-ACD6FF9EF9BB@yahoo.com> <1474630253.1845320.1608330727814@mail.yahoo.com> <355392267.2547618.1608403290228@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I looked for a a lightweight all aluminum trailer for quite a while before settling on a Montrose 18 footer with 6? ceiling. I looked at pretty much everything and considered an enclosed Trailex (I?ve got an open Trailex- lightweight and made well), but I wanted a drop down ramp. Trailex didn?t do this as of 2018. Deal breaker. The trailer had to fit cars as wide as my Esprit V8, and as long as my XJS. It has a pass side (camper style) door and a huge awning door on the driver side so you can get t out of a closed car. I ordered 4 corner jacks so when I stay at the track on race weekends, the ?Casa Azul? is level. Makes for a better nights sleep! Montrose trailers all open in the front like a snowmobile trailer (they started making snowmobile trailers in 1971) and mine tipped the scales at 2150 before I began my customizing. It left a little over 19k hole in my pocket. The website is a challenge, but they will build whatever you want. Apparently, I was the first customer to ask for blue. I really like mine. The Aerovault is around 30k by the time you finish the wish list. Trailex, around 28. Good luck with your search! Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY > On Dec 19, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Ponostyle via Fot wrote: > > The price is a bit of a mystery, but one sold on Bring A Trailer recently for 21K > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2013-peter-brock-bre-bre-aerovault-mark-1-trailer/ > > >> On Dec 19, 2020, at 10:41 AM, dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: >> >> Thanks everyone for the ideas on a low profile enclosed trailer and for those of you inquiring about my open trailer for sale. Here are the details: >> >> Custom built 2010 >> All aluminum (except for steel tongue) >> 24.5' total length, 16.5' bed, 4' tool box >> Electric brakes >> Tires about 3 or 4 years old >> Axles are about a foot further back than normal which makes for very smooth towing with lots of tongue weight. Even empty I can't pick up the tongue by myself. >> Cost $10,000 to have made. Will sell for $5,000. >> Houston, Texas >> Photo attached >> Thanks, >> Dusty Nicholson >> 1955 EP TR3 #72 >> 281-871-9623 >> >> >> On Friday, December 18, 2020, 04:33:18 PM CST, rek46 via Fot wrote: >> >> >> how much? >> >> In a message dated 12/18/2020 5:07:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: >> >> Why not enclose your open trailer? >> Then it?s exactly the size you need to fit in the garage door and hold the car. >> Just thinking outside the box seats (in the cheap seats) lol >> More work but it should be way cheaper than ordering custom new trailer. >> Cheers >> Mike >> >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:41 PM dustin nicholson via Fot wrote: >> Amici, >> >> It?s time to trade my open car hauler for an enclosed trailer and I?m not finding what I want in the market place so figured I?d try y?all. >> >> I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. >> >> Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dusty Nicholson >> 1955 EP TR3 #72 >> 281-871-9623 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage >> : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> Mike Deweerd >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/nicholsondustin at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I?m looking for an enclosed low profile single car trailer. I want low profile for easier towing and to fit in a normal garage door. These seem to exist as motorcycle trailers with about 5?-6? inside height clearance. About 1?-0?+ lower than a typical enclosed trailer. The problem with motorcycle trailers is they tend to be too narrow and not long enough. Any idea where I might find one car sized? My next step will be custom order, but I?d rather not pay for custom. Related note, my nice all aluminum open car hauler is for sale. Good size for Triumphs, just big enough for my Jag MKII 4 door sedan. I get lots of compliments on this nice trailer. Holler at me if you want details or photos. Thanks, Dusty Nicholson 1955 EP TR3 #72 281-871-9623 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/macdonaldp at rogers.com From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 21 10:29:46 2020 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS DELAP) Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2020 11:29:46 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Cam identification References: Message-ID: A M I C I I am trying to identify a TR4/3 cam that I got from Kent Howard many years ago. It is a regrind with the markings D9 and Y.2K stamped into the end. Is Crower still out there? Thanks Dennis Sent from my iPhone From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Wed Dec 23 11:23:41 2020 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 18:23:41 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 1954 XMAS card Message-ID: <5b5b03da52c4e31261b334b88681ac9c156f44cd@webmail> >From Cal Sales western USA distributor winter 1954 best to all Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Dorothy Xmas TR.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1705639 bytes Desc: not available URL: From zoboherald at aol.com Wed Dec 23 23:42:05 2020 From: zoboherald at aol.com (Andrew S. Mace) Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2020 06:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] 1954 XMAS card In-Reply-To: <5b5b03da52c4e31261b334b88681ac9c156f44cd@webmail> References: <5b5b03da52c4e31261b334b88681ac9c156f44cd@webmail> Message-ID: <1712097435.4083423.1608792125192@mail.yahoo.com> Great card...but I can't believe they misspelled "Aurthur"! :o --AndyAndrew Mace -----Original Message----- From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com To: 'fot at autox.team.net' ; 'triumphs at autox.team.net' Sent: Wed, Dec 23, 2020 1:23 pm Subject: [TR] 1954 XMAS card >From Cal Sales western USA distributor winter 1954 ? best to all? Tom** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/zoboherald at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Dec 25 06:09:27 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 08:09:27 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> Jerry; We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks. I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. Merry Christmas!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: > > ? > I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. > JVV > > From: glewis999 at aol.com > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM > To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Yes, > Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > > I run a > thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New > seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting > worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. > > My > question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using > the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on > the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. > Has anyone found a double lip seal > replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference > P/N? > > Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New > Year has to be better than 2020. > > JVV > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Fri Dec 25 07:37:45 2020 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:37:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> Message-ID: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> On 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: "Jerry Van Vlack" Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net, "fot" , glewis999 at aol.com Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Jerry; We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks. I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. Merry Christmas!!! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: BQ_BEGIN I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. JVV From: glewis999 at aol.com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: [ http://mail.mobile.aol.com/ | mail.mobile.aol.com ] On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: BQ_BEGIN I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs | http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs ] [ http://www.team.net/archive | http://www.team.net/archive ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com ] BQ_END _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com BQ_END _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Dec 25 07:54:17 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 09:54:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <11B6A028-9455-4F3F-8A81-65ECDA038E97@aol.com> Good point, Marcel. I have had oil pan leaks due to the same phenomenon. Spot welds where the windage tray attaches to the pan. Oil splashed onto the exhaust on left hand turns. Caught fire, but the fire went out on the straights and into the pits. Really baffled us (and the corner workers) for several sessions...! Merry Christmas! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 25, 2020, at 9:37 AM, van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be wrote: > > ? > On 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. > Marcel > Van: "fot" > Aan: "Jerry Van Vlack" > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net, "fot" , glewis999 at aol.com > Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27 > Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Jerry; > We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks. > I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. > Merry Christmas!!! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: > > I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. > JVV > > From: glewis999 at aol.com > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM > To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Yes, > Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: > > I run a > thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New > seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting > worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. > > My > question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using > the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on > the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. > Has anyone found a double lip seal > replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference > P/N? > > Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New > Year has to be better than 2020. > > JVV > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Fri Dec 25 08:48:35 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:48:35 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: I?ve seen that too but that?s not my issue at least for now. What does the future hold? From: van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 9:37 AM To: Phil Gott Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak On 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. Marcel -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Van: "fot" Aan: "Jerry Van Vlack" Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net, "fot" , glewis999 at aol.com Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 14:09:27 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Jerry; We run a narrow belt on both cars. In both cases the damper puller housing extends into the timing cover to mate up against the slinger washers. No problem using the stock oil seal. We have had some leakage out between the crankshaft spigot and the pulley. Perhaps via the Keway. and the fit between the pulley and spigot is a little worn, so we assemble it with some rtv. No leaks. I wonder if you have eliminated the slinger washers, and if the joint between the spacer and damper coincides with the lip seal interface. Merry Christmas!!! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: I wasn?t looking for any political responses to my question. Please keep those to yourself. Not appropriate here. JVV From: glewis999 at aol.com Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 7:47 AM To: jerryvv at roadrunner.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Fri Dec 25 09:06:14 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 16:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <0C8A5E7BD30A4AFC9376DA3CD60F1ED2@VlackTK121647> References: <0C8A5E7BD30A4AFC9376DA3CD60F1ED2@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <521799640.4384944.1608912374519@mail.yahoo.com> Jerry, I am using a thin belt Harmonic damper that I got from BFE years ago.? It has spacer that goes against the slinger and the joint where the damper meets the spacer is right about where the seal lip is.? I found a double lip seal, but that was 10 years ago and I can't find my records of what it is.? If I come across it, I will post it.? Joe B.? On Friday, December 25, 2020, 07:44:47 AM EST, Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. ?My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N??Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020.?JVV_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Fri Dec 25 10:50:59 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:50:59 -0700 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: On 12/25/20 7:37 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot wrote: > On? 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the > cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was > located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. If the timing chain tensioner breaks so that you have a rough edge riding against the cover, rather than a smooth curve, it will eventually machine a slot into the cover.? I've had it happen on some Spitfire engines. mjb. From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Fri Dec 25 12:28:14 2020 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:28:14 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: References: <4250CA2DF1834CEAB409E5B61BC77B68@VlackTK121647> <3F95E975-4F32-4418-8D75-E4CB4C95511F@aol.com> <292943534.32773710.1608907065157.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <678739777.33362502.1608924494123.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Hi Mark, I forgot about the cause. Indeed there was a broken chain tensioner. These tensioners are so flimsy, I wonder if they do much of a job. If the chain is running quiet, the surface of the tensioner remains smooth. A broken tensioner, but also deep ridges, sometimes in a short time, are proof that the chain was slapping on it. This happens when the sprockets are not perfectly in line as is often the case when a billet steel crankshaft is fitted. A wobbling chain means also that the ignition advance is not stable with some loss of power. It shows with a stroboscope light. But this is starting to look like a lesson, sorry! Marcel ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 25 december 2020 18:50:59 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak On 12/25/20 7:37 AM, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot wrote: > On? 2 occasions I had a leaking timing because of a small hole in the > cover itself : once the hole had the shape of a thin line and was > located near the rivets or spotwelds of the chain tensioner. If the timing chain tensioner breaks so that you have a rough edge riding against the cover, rather than a smooth curve, it will eventually machine a slot into the cover.? I've had it happen on some Spitfire engines. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Dec 25 13:07:47 2020 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:07:47 +0000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <4075BA83-FC2D-4510-8444-9999DE89810A@uthscsa.edu> References: <280070865.4362068.1608900474351.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <280070865.4362068.1608900474351@mail.yahoo.com>, <4075BA83-FC2D-4510-8444-9999DE89810A@uthscsa.edu> Message-ID: If you would have stopped at "don't make this political" that would have been good, you know before you inserted your political views... Marty ________________________________ From: Triumphs on behalf of Cochran, David L Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:59 PM To: glewis999 at aol.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Do not make this political. Hope however that you enjoyed the best economy we have had in for many years and one of the lowest employment rates ever for our country plus no wars and some Middle East peace never achieved before. On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:48 AM, glewis999 at aol.com wrote: ?Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cochran at uthscsa.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not only that, the ?old? engine in the car is in great shape. > > On to the street engine for the TR6 in the background. > > Happy holiday, everyone! > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/walje at sbcglobal.net > > From rkramer56 at gmail.com Fri Dec 25 17:44:39 2020 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 18:44:39 -0600 Subject: [Fot] New Engine In-Reply-To: <384BCC42-773F-4492-A44B-E13961A87A22@me.com> References: <384BCC42-773F-4492-A44B-E13961A87A22@me.com> Message-ID: I don?t know.....the calendar tells a different story. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?One of the few benefits of not having the usual houseful this Christmas (and of having a very understanding spouse) is that I got to spend two hours today buttoning up the long block for the GT6. All the hard work is done, and it?s got the new special cam in it. Not only that, the ?old? engine in the car is in great shape. > > On to the street engine for the TR6 in the background. > > Happy holiday, everyone! > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > From fmccjr at aol.com Fri Dec 25 17:57:38 2020 From: fmccjr at aol.com (Rick McCurdy) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 19:57:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] New Engine In-Reply-To: <384BCC42-773F-4492-A44B-E13961A87A22@me.com> References: <384BCC42-773F-4492-A44B-E13961A87A22@me.com> Message-ID: Merry Christmas, and that looks GREAT! My ?gift that keeps giving? is a 58 Bugeye that has had to have a second engine rebuild. And now the starter is toast. 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Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY > On Dec 25, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?One of the few benefits of not having the usual houseful this Christmas (and of having a very understanding spouse) is that I got to spend two hours today buttoning up the long block for the GT6. All the hard work is done, and it?s got the new special cam in it. Not only that, the ?old? engine in the car is in great shape. > > On to the street engine for the TR6 in the background. > > Happy holiday, everyone! > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > From jaboruch at yahoo.com Fri Dec 25 19:45:23 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 02:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <521799640.4384944.1608912374519@mail.yahoo.com> References: <0C8A5E7BD30A4AFC9376DA3CD60F1ED2@VlackTK121647> <521799640.4384944.1608912374519@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <504324236.4455576.1608950723604@mail.yahoo.com> I took a look in my spare parts box and I found a seal (it was right on top - I am not usually so lucky in my searches), which I believe to be the correct one.? It is a Timken 473229 double lip seal.? 1.562" x 2.502" x 3.13".? My engine is assembled, so I could not verify the shaft ID, but the OD is correct.? It is a fairly common seal for a transfer case (which I have no reason to have a seal for). Googling, there is also a Timken 472635 seal, which is for a 1.552" shaft, but it is 0.500" thick.? The extra thickness may better position one seal lip away from the split between the spacer and the damper hub.?? I do not use a gasket to install the timing cover, but rather just use RTV.? Adding a gasket or two would also shift the seal's relative position, which may help (or hurt, depending on where the split is).? JoeB.? On Friday, December 25, 2020, 11:08:18 AM EST, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: Jerry, I am using a thin belt Harmonic damper that I got from BFE years ago.? It has spacer that goes against the slinger and the joint where the damper meets the spacer is right about where the seal lip is.? 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I noted in the article in the latest TVT about 20TS that it?s author identified Sir John Black as Sir Black. Oh, dear. Sometimes I think a few lessons on how to address titled people is long overdue for our colonial cousins:) Happy Christmas, everyone! Jonmac Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intentions. > On 24 Dec 2020, at 21:34, wrote: > > o ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Mon Dec 28 06:10:18 2020 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 08:10:18 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Blank-off plate for oil filter - TR6 and GT6 engine? Message-ID: Hi, I?m looking for one of these. Does anyone have a spare or know of a source? 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9F8EB4A64B784C9FA510E70CB9675FAB@Rocky> Trace the outline of what you want to blank off (including bolt holes), go to your friendly neighorhood machine shop, ask them to cut you a plate out of 1/8? steel. Cheap. I did that to replace the stock fuel pump on my Spitfire. Install it with a gasket! As for the oil filter, I acquired an adaptor with in/out receptacles for a system that includes a remote filter and an oil cooler. --Rocky Entriken From: Scott Janzen via Fot Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:10 AM To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Blank-off plate for oil filter - TR6 and GT6 engine? Hi, I?m looking for one of these. Does anyone have a spare or know of a source? My oiling system by-passes this area entirely, and I?d like not to have to swap this piece between engines. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rocky at spitfire4.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gt6steve at aol.com Mon Dec 28 17:21:28 2020 From: gt6steve at aol.com (gt6steve) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 00:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Blank-off plate for oil filter - TR6 and GT6 engine? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1755710686.3188811.1609201288522@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Scott. I used to make these.I naught be able to whip you one out this weekend.? Sent from the all new Aol app for iOS On Monday, December 28, 2020, 5:11 AM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: Hi, I?m looking for one of these. ?Does anyone have a spare or know of a source? ?My oiling system by-passes this area entirely, and I?d like not to have to swap this piece between engines. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Dec 25 13:40:51 2020 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:40:51 +0000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <000501d6dafa$39681550$ac383ff0$@uprichard.net> References: <280070865.4362068.1608900474351.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <280070865.4362068.1608900474351@mail.yahoo.com> <4075BA83-FC2D-4510-8444-9999DE89810A@uthscsa.edu>, <000501d6dafa$39681550$ac383ff0$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: I concur. I apologize for my comments, there can be nothing positive with me continuing. I am out and I truly hope all of you have a Merry Christmas and a great 2021. Marty From: Triumphs on behalf of auprichard at uprichard.net Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 3:12 PM To: 'Cochran, David L' ; glewis999 at aol.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak As I said, CUT IT OUT ! Obviously I agree with one of you two, but this is the Triumph chat page for goodness sake. We need to police our chat page and keep it to the subject on which we are all in agreement ? our lovely old cars. Andrew Uprichard From: Triumphs On Behalf Of Cochran, David L Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:59 PM To: glewis999 at aol.com Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak Do not make this political. Hope however that you enjoyed the best economy we have had in for many years and one of the lowest employment rates ever for our country plus no wars and some Middle East peace never achieved before. On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:48 AM, glewis999 at aol.com wrote: ?Yes, Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack > wrote: I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. JVV ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cochran at uthscsa.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steveadams55 at sky.com Fri Dec 25 13:49:57 2020 From: steveadams55 at sky.com (Steve Adams) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2020 20:49:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can we get back to talking about car stuff pls..... that?s when you guys are at your best. Sent from my iPhone > On 25 Dec 2020, at 20:08, marty sukey via Fot wrote: > > ? > If you would have stopped at "don't make this political" that would have been good, you know before you inserted your political views... > > Marty > > From: Triumphs on behalf of Cochran, David L > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:59 PM > To: glewis999 at aol.com > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Do not make this political. Hope however that you enjoyed the best economy we have had in for many years and one of the lowest employment rates ever for our country plus no wars and some Middle East peace never achieved before. > >>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:48 AM, glewis999 at aol.com wrote: >>> >> ?Yes, >> Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. >> >> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >> Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com >> >> On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack wrote: >> >> >> I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy >> sleeves and might try that. >> >> >> >> My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind >> the damper pulley. >> >> Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? >> >> >> >> Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. >> >> >> >> JVV >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cochran at uthscsa.edu > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/steveadams55 at sky.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From levilevi at comcast.net Sat Dec 26 11:50:00 2020 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2020 11:50:00 -0700 Subject: [Fot] [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak In-Reply-To: <000501d6dafa$39681550$ac383ff0$@uprichard.net> References: <280070865.4362068.1608900474351.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <280070865.4362068.1608900474351@mail.yahoo.com> <4075BA83-FC2D-4510-8444-9999DE89810A@uthscsa.edu> <000501d6dafa$39681550$ac383ff0$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: <62C63DD1-4CBB-47AF-95F3-BD656B8549F2@comcast.net> Thanks for that Andrew, I don?t want either side fucking this list up. I?ve been here for 24 years and fortunately we self police. This is an email list so I don?t even like it when it veers towards being a chat line, no finding Waldo crap please, or naming old sayings, that is for chat lines and face book. No car stuff, then stifle yourself. Merry Christmas and Happy New year Bud > On Dec 25, 2020, at 1:12 PM, auprichard at uprichard.net wrote: > > As I said, CUT IT OUT ! > > Obviously I agree with one of you two, but this is the Triumph chat page for goodness sake. We need to police our chat page and keep it to the subject on which we are all in agreement ? our lovely old cars. > > Andrew Uprichard > > From: Triumphs > On Behalf Of Cochran, David L > Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 2:59 PM > To: glewis999 at aol.com > Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net ; fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] Timing cover crank seal oil leak > > Do not make this political. Hope however that you enjoyed the best economy we have had in for many years and one of the lowest employment rates ever for our country plus no wars and some Middle East peace never achieved before. > > >> On Dec 25, 2020, at 6:48 AM, glewis999 at aol.com wrote: >> >> ?Yes, >> Trump is on the way out, great relief to the world. >> >> Sent from AOL Mobile Mail >> Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com >> >> On Friday, 25 December 2020, Jerry Van Vlack > wrote: >> >>> I run a thin belt conversion and have an oil leak from the timing chain cover. New seal at rebuild 2 years ago. Leaked from initial startup but now getting worse. I know about speedy sleeves and might try that. >>> >>> My question is this. Has anyone else experienced excessive leakage while using the thin belt conversion? The Moss instructions imply that the seal rides on the spacer installed behind the damper pulley. >>> Has anyone found a double lip seal replacement to the standard supplied seal and if yes do you have a reference P/N? >>> >>> Thanks and Merry Christmas. The New Year has to be better than 2020. >>> >>> JVV >>> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glewis999 at aol.com >> ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cochran at uthscsa.edu ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi at comcast.net Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I noted in the article in the latest TVT about 20TS that it?s author identified Sir John Black as Sir Black. Oh, dear. Sometimes I think a few lessons on how to address titled people is long overdue for our colonial cousins:) Happy Christmas, everyone! Jonmac Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intentions. > On 24 Dec 2020, at 21:34, > > wrote: > > o ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellowtr3 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 26 17:47:33 2020 From: yellowtr3 at yahoo.com (Frank Fisher) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 00:47:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] 1954 XMAS card In-Reply-To: <98A76C14-9101-49F3-B705-FBC6EEFD8204@mhc-law.com> References: <5b5b03da52c4e31261b334b88681ac9c156f44cd@webmail> <1712097435.4083423.1608792125192@mail.yahoo.com> <020001d6da3c$9caaf1f0$d600d5d0$@bell.net> <067982C7-C9EB-4615-9083-D61682D2EBAB@Ukpips.org.uk> <1556362120.2878662.1609027682754@mail.yahoo.com> <98A76C14-9101-49F3-B705-FBC6EEFD8204@mhc-law.com> Message-ID: <1774534071.2843316.1609030053376@mail.yahoo.com> On Saturday, December 26, 2020, 04:36:13 PM PST, John H. Hasty wrote: Such a pity that Mr. Fawkes? intentions were unsuccessful, It is rumored it was because he relied upon his MG to complete his intentions.? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 26, 2020, at 7:10 PM, Frank Fisher via Fot wrote: ?Jonmacneed to instructed them on how to make tea also. Frank On Friday, December 25, 2020, 12:15:40 PM PST, John Macartney wrote: Tut, tut, tut, Mr. Mace. Never mind. I noted in the article in the latest TVT about 20TS that it?s author identified Sir John Black as Sir Black. Oh, dear. Sometimes I think a few lessons on how to address titled people is long overdue for our colonial cousins:) Happy Christmas, everyone! Jonmac Vote for Guy Fawkes! The only man who entered Parliament with honest intentions. > On 24 Dec 2020, at 21:34, wrote: > > o ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave finished a several year restoration of his Royal Blue 1967 TR4A (I?m partial to Royal Blue 4A?s) having done all of the work himself. The car turned out very nice. Dave and I along with several WPTA unwashed did a 2500+ mile tour thru New England after the Watkins Glen festival in 2019 including spirited runs up Mt Equinox in VT and Mt Washington in NH. Dave?s blog ( davestr4a.com) details some of our adventures together. > > Seconds please and Mark please add Dave to the list. > > JVV > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave finished a several year restoration of his Royal Blue 1967 TR4A (I?m partial to Royal Blue 4A?s) having done all of the work himself. The car turned out very nice. Dave and I along with several WPTA unwashed did a 2500+ mile tour thru New England after the Watkins Glen festival in 2019 including spirited runs up Mt Equinox in VT and Mt Washington in NH. 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I will look later unless someone else beats me to it.? JoeB On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 06:23:07 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion?? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until? I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. Thanks! Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. > Thanks! > Phil Gott > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/1959triumphtr3a at gmail.com > > From alfetta95 at optonline.net Tue Dec 29 17:36:58 2020 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:36:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: <2082153427.5520669.1609286755535@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2082153427.5520669.1609286755535@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Please list the numbers here. I am also in need of replacements Thnx Todd > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > ? > Yes, it is a small Ford bearing. I have one in my parts bin. I will look later unless someone else beats me to it. JoeB > > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 06:23:07 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > > Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... > Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? 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URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Tue Dec 29 17:54:39 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:54:39 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... > Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. > Thanks! > Phil Gott > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > From vfracing at aol.com Tue Dec 29 18:10:43 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 20:10:43 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thanks, guys! The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes. Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of ?Green? bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are different from Timken. In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc. Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: > > ?Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. > The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. > Dave H. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >> >> Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... >> Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. >> Thanks! >> Phil Gott >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >> >> > From dlhogye at comcast.net Tue Dec 29 18:25:18 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:25:18 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A8D61C8-E7EB-4D10-86BA-1D4880028623@comcast.net> The Timken number that I tried using is RW507ER. Perhaps the Suffix R is the radius designation. In any event, it doesn't really cross with the Green bearing used for the Moser axle and I could not get a different Timken bearing. The inner races have a different radius on the i.d. I alway use Timken, but not this time. Southwick will also send you Green bearings. Number RW507E. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Phil Gott wrote: > > Thanks, guys! > The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes. > Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of ?Green? bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are different from Timken. > In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc. > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: >> >> ?Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. >> The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. >> Dave H. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... >>> Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. >>> Thanks! >>> Phil Gott >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > From mark at bradakis.com Tue Dec 29 18:34:53 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 18:34:53 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9fae592c-0e46-5c7f-2cc5-97dc726d148e@bradakis.com> On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list.? It was 24 years ago, 1996.? Time flies when you're having fun. mjb. From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 18:41:04 2020 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:41:04 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: <9fae592c-0e46-5c7f-2cc5-97dc726d148e@bradakis.com> References: <9fae592c-0e46-5c7f-2cc5-97dc726d148e@bradakis.com> Message-ID: We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. Thanks Mark. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > > That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From dlhogye at comcast.net Tue Dec 29 18:46:53 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:46:53 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007B20DA-3A3C-4613-9A6C-01F0B4683596@comcast.net> I also discovered a similar bearing i.d. radius issue for the pinion tail bearing in the Triumph diff. The typical Timken has a fat radius that creates a small contact surface against the pinion flange. When I researched this matter, I did find a Timken bearing with a different i.d. radius that provided a much wider contact to the flange. The factory also used a wider contact here. I had a couple axle assemblies sitting around and found original numbers on this bearing that were different than the typically available bearing. Obviously, through the years a substitute was made. The substitute is probably less expensive. Better profit margin, but not really better. Dave H. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 29, 2020, at 5:10 PM, Phil Gott wrote: > > Thanks, guys! > The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes. > Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of ?Green? bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are different from Timken. > In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc. > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: >> >> ?Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. >> The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. >> Dave H. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... >>> Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. >>> Thanks! >>> Phil Gott >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > From jaboruch at yahoo.com Tue Dec 29 19:57:07 2020 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 02:57:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <435796496.499899.1609297027219@mail.yahoo.com> The Moser package that I have, which came with 2 bearings and 2 press on retainers is part number MSR-9507F.? The bearing is an RW507E, 1.377 ID and 2.834 OD.? 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URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Tue Dec 29 20:11:25 2020 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:11:25 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <9fae592c-0e46-5c7f-2cc5-97dc726d148e@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <1609297885.k5efi1t008wo8444@webmail.lumos.net> I agree, that is a good idea. John On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:41:04 -0600, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. Thanks Mark. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > > That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? From terrysopher at gmail.com Tue Dec 29 20:55:04 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:55:04 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Since Kastner Cup will be on West Coast & the Anniversary is in December - Something in the Southeast may be a good choice based on weather! Roebling, Jekyll Island!?!? > On Dec 29, 2020, at 20:47, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. > > Thanks Mark. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >> >> ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote >> >> Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! >> >> That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. >> >> mjb. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From hankgiffin at cox.net Tue Dec 29 22:25:51 2020 From: hankgiffin at cox.net (Henry Giffin) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 00:25:51 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR4 on Wheeler Dealers Message-ID: <02a501d6de6c$3e7ef430$bb7cdc90$@cox.net> Wheeler Dealers series 16 episode 11 has a 20 year stored TR4 as the feature. 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I better check, my 100 year high school reunion might be coming up. > On Dec 29, 2020, at 10:01 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > On 12/29/20 6:41 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: >> We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. >> > > At least a run of silver anniversary T shirts. And I'll have mine sent to the UPS store or some such, don't want them stolen off my porch like the 2020 Kastner Cup shirts were. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill at ponostyle.com > > From tr4racing at googlemail.com Wed Dec 30 00:16:57 2020 From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 08:16:57 +0100 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: <80B22269-72ED-49FE-8EBC-EBEFC11924AD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001801d6de7b$c2955ac0$47c01040$@gmail.com> I use a lip seal which sits before the bearing and prevent oil is getting in the bearing itself as I know that the seals on roller bearings are not good enough. Cheers Chris -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot Im Auftrag von Phil Gott via Fot Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Dezember 2020 02:11 An: Dave Cc: Friends of Triumph Betreff: Re: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion Thanks, guys! The seal that failed is not the O-ring. It is the seal in the bearing itself. Gear oil from the differential is slowly working its way into the bearing and diluting the grease, which is getting thrown out onto the brakes. Much appreciate the responses. I had not heard of ?Green? bearings as a brand before. Good to know that the chamfer radii are different from Timken. In googling the part numbers it looks like Moser actually sells the bearing and retainer as a set available from jEGS, Summit, etc. Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: > > ?Check the radius of the Timken bearing closely and make sure it will fit, or is larger than the radius on the axle flange before you install it. Moser axles don't come with Timken bearings. They come with Green bearings. The first time I used Timken, I found that the radius of the bearing interferes with the radius of the axle and keeps the bearing from going on as it should. There was about .015" gap. > The numbers on the Green box are 9507F RW507E. I asked the auto parts guy to get me the Timken cross and when installing it, noticed I could press it on all the way, leaving a gap to the shoulder. > Dave H. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:21 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >> >> Does anyone know the part number for the axle bearings and shrink-on retainer used in the Southwick Conversion? I?m a bit hesitant to take it apart until I have a replacement bearing. My bearing is fine but the seal is failing and throwing grease onto the brakes.... >> Or maybe a make and model of car that it fits? I heard somewhere it is a Ford bearing, but don?t know the year, make and model. >> Thanks! >> Phil Gott >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >> >> > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4racing at googlemail.com From gasket.works at gte.net Wed Dec 30 07:06:55 2020 From: gasket.works at gte.net (Mordy Dunst) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion References: <1321489029.594435.1609337215570.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1321489029.594435.1609337215570@mail.yahoo.com> What say best photo from each member with a?Three-four sentence description. On a member section of the web site? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com On?Tuesday, December 29, 2020,?Joe Alexander via Fot??wrote: We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. Thanks Mark. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > > That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list.? It was 24 years ago, 1996.? Time flies when you're having fun. > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Dec 30 07:11:08 2020 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 09:11:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: <1321489029.594435.1609337215570@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1321489029.594435.1609337215570@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9A34587E-3DEC-42DB-BE21-978157C7ACCE@aol.com> I like that! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 30, 2020, at 9:08 AM, Mordy Dunst via Fot wrote: > > ?What say best photo from each member with a Three-four sentence description. On a member section of the web site? > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com > > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. > > Thanks Mark. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > > > ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > > > > Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > > > > That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. > > > > mjb. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gasket.works at gte.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Dec 30 08:10:48 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 15:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Alexander via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Dec 30, 2020 9:56 am Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 To Change the Subject Line and Summarize: Mark Bradakis announces 25th Anniversary. Mark suggests a special run of FOT Shirts. Mordy suggests pictures in Website. Terry suggests doing something on the East Coast. All good ideas, eh? I think we are overdue for a run of T-Shirts and these could be made special. And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. Regards, Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell:? 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Roebling, Jekyll Island!?!? > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 20:47, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> >> ?We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. >> >> Thanks Mark. >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> >>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote >>> >>> Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! >>> >>> That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. >>> >>> mjb. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >> >> From ofracer at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 11:23:08 2020 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 13:23:08 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've looked for an excuse to run that event. mike h On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 12:55 PM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > ? > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > On Dec 29, 2020, at 9:55 PM, Terry Sopher wrote: > > > > ?Since Kastner Cup will be on West Coast & the Anniversary is in > December - Something in the Southeast may be a good choice based on > weather! Roebling, Jekyll Island!?!? > > > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 20:47, Joe Alexander via Fot > wrote: > >> > >> ?We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. > >> > >> Thanks Mark. > >> > >> Joe Alexander > >> 4505 Donald Dr > >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > >> The-vintage-racer.com > >> Gasketinnovations.com > >> Cell: 319.464.4711 > >> > >> > >>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > >>> > >>> ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > >>> > >>> Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great > group! > >>> > >>> That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On > December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time > flies when you're having fun. > >>> > >>> mjb. > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> fot at autox.team.net > >>> > >>> http://www.fot-racing.com > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. > > Regards, > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Terry Sopher > On Dec 30, 2020, at 09:57, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?To Change the Subject Line and Summarize: > > Mark Bradakis announces 25th Anniversary. > > Mark suggests a special run of FOT Shirts. > > Mordy suggests pictures in Website. > > Terry suggests doing something on the East Coast. > > All good ideas, eh? > > I think we are overdue for a run of T-Shirts and these could be made special. And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. > > Regards, > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From curt.johnston at comcast.net Wed Dec 30 12:17:28 2020 From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 11:17:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] Bearings for Southwick Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1053581724.185683.1609355849026@connect.xfinity.com> Sounds like the start of a Kastner Cup Series! Four races; east, west, south, north! Curt Johnston > On 12/29/2020 7:55 PM Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: > > > Since Kastner Cup will be on West Coast & the Anniversary is in December - Something in the Southeast may be a good choice based on weather! Roebling, Jekyll Island!?!? > > > On Dec 29, 2020, at 20:47, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > > > ?We should do something in 2021 to commemorate the 25th Anniversary. > > > > Thanks Mark. > > > > Joe Alexander > > 4505 Donald Dr > > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > > The-vintage-racer.com > > Gasketinnovations.com > > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > > > >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > >> > >> ?On 12/29/20 6:10 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote > >> > >> Thanks very much, everyone! And for such fast responses. What a great group! > >> > >> That reminded me, I didn't send out a birthday email this month. On December 11th I set up this list list. It was 24 years ago, 1996. Time flies when you're having fun. > >> > >> mjb. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/curt.johnston at comcast.net From sjanzen at me.com Wed Dec 30 12:26:12 2020 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:26:12 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> Message-ID: I second the vote for a long sleeve option! On Dec 30, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: Yes and I like getting T-shirts out early. Long sleeve & shirt sleeve plz! Terry Sopher > On Dec 30, 2020, at 09:57, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?To Change the Subject Line and Summarize: > > Mark Bradakis announces 25th Anniversary. > > Mark suggests a special run of FOT Shirts. > > Mordy suggests pictures in Website. > > Terry suggests doing something on the East Coast. > > All good ideas, eh? > > I think we are overdue for a run of T-Shirts and these could be made special. And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. > > Regards, > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cartravel at pobox.com Wed Dec 30 13:39:09 2020 From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 14:39:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, and definitely not white! You just can't get the inevitable grease stains out. - Larry Young On 12/30/2020 1:26 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > I second the vote for a long sleeve option! > > On Dec 30, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot > wrote: > > Yes and I like getting T-shirts out early. ?Long sleeve & shirt sleeve > plz! > > Terry Sopher > >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 09:57, Joe Alexander via Fot > > wrote: >> >> ?To Change the Subject Line and Summarize: >> >> Mark Bradakis announces 25th Anniversary. >> >> Mark suggests a special run of FOT Shirts. >> >> Mordy suggests pictures in Website. >> >> Terry suggests doing something on the East Coast. >> >> All good ideas, eh? >> >> I think we are overdue for a run of T-Shirts and these could be made >> special. And early in the year so they can be worn throughout the year. >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: ?319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/cartravel at pobox.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bownes at seiri.com Wed Dec 30 14:42:29 2020 From: bownes at seiri.com (Bob Bownes -Seiri) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:42:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Restorer? In-Reply-To: <48db01985a5a1e807428d924ec7d11d8fe6e305a@webmail> References: <48db01985a5a1e807428d924ec7d11d8fe6e305a@webmail> Message-ID: <40CCA6B2-59AA-4AD4-9EE4-A04D51A03393@seiri.com> That?s a common misspelling of my last name, but I?m hardly a professional restoration person. > On Dec 30, 2020, at 13:40, T. R. Householder via Fot wrote: > > ?Can anyone relate to a Bob Bower restoring British cars? _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > From terrysopher at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 14:50:00 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: <1d3a941e-ec79-001d-403a-208a08dd94e9@bradakis.com> References: <1d3a941e-ec79-001d-403a-208a08dd94e9@bradakis.com> Message-ID: I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. > On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?Interesting. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From jhasty at mhc-law.com Wed Dec 30 15:41:15 2020 From: jhasty at mhc-law.com (John H. Hasty) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 22:41:15 +0000 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: <1d3a941e-ec79-001d-403a-208a08dd94e9@bradakis.com>, Message-ID: <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> If it was a ?major British engine rebuilder (of Spit) motors in NC it would be Rick Parent...perhaps we might have his comment? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: > > ?I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. > >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Interesting. >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 >> >> mjb. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > > From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 15:45:11 2020 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 16:45:11 -0600 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> References: <1d3a941e-ec79-001d-403a-208a08dd94e9@bradakis.com> <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> Message-ID: That does look like the Spitfire that Dave Foreman ran here in Texas and it did in fact have Rick Parent motor (at that time at least) Bob Kramer On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 4:42 PM John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: > If it was a ?major British engine rebuilder (of Spit) motors in NC it > would be Rick Parent...perhaps we might have his comment? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot > wrote: > > > > ?I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder > in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but > he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 > engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. > > > >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot > wrote: > >> > >> ?Interesting. > >> > >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 > >> > >> mjb. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot at autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive > http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 16:33:06 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 18:33:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50E85E66-2B47-4440-B401-5C3DDCF5433A@gmail.com> Not Dave Foreman?s old car...that was a ?62 that I bought w/out Engine or trans & sold this summer to new owner in PA, who is getting it ready for SCCA. > On Dec 30, 2020, at 17:45, Bob Kramer wrote: > > ? > That does look like the Spitfire that Dave Foreman ran here in Texas and it did in fact have Rick Parent motor (at that time at least) > > Bob Kramer > > >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 4:42 PM John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: >> If it was a ?major British engine rebuilder (of Spit) motors in NC it would be Rick Parent...perhaps we might have his comment? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: >> > >> > ?I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. >> > >> >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >> >> >> >> ?Interesting. >> >> >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 >> >> >> >> mjb. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > fot at autox.team.net >> > >> > http://www.fot-racing.com >> > >> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Wed Dec 30 18:04:50 2020 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 20:04:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] EBay Spitfire In-Reply-To: <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> References: <73C4A2AC-45CF-4A8C-B6CF-5F1E5D15E0D2@mhc-law.com> Message-ID: <8085122A-745D-4717-A9D2-C8C693346831@gmail.com> Seller states ? The engine was built by Larry Melvin in Greensboro NC? > On Dec 30, 2020, at 17:41, John H. Hasty wrote: > > ?If it was a ?major British engine rebuilder (of Spit) motors in NC it would be Rick Parent...perhaps we might have his comment? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: >> >> ?I emailed the seller - he replied that a major British engine rebuilder in NC rebuilt the engine and many of the parts had Kas? stamp on them, but he didn?t take pictures and ?some? of the ?internal? parts of the 1500 engine w/ Kas? stamp remain. >> >>>> On Dec 30, 2020, at 10:36, Mark J Bradakis via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?Interesting. >>> >>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/254820550960 >>> >>> mjb. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty at mhc-law.com >> >> From garygret at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 30 21:37:29 2020 From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: glensfirstracecar.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com Thu Dec 31 06:38:17 2020 From: duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com (Duncan Charlton) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 07:38:17 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old > reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered > my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the > throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long > though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My > first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little > hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to > capture the guilty look. > > Gary Schneider > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > Glen Efinger > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother > John is driver. > > [image: glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > - > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: glensfirstracecar.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Thu Dec 31 07:12:13 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 14:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <867977151.3649731.1609423933994@mail.yahoo.com> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ?Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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BTW, 10% is fine in a 4hp Briggs, 20% not so much. Apparently pistons are only supposed to have the one hole for the gudgeon pin!? Jake On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:16:46 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ?Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: glensfirstracecar.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 98303 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Thu Dec 31 07:31:51 2020 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (kekjacobsen) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 08:31:51 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <2124024677.3668766.1609424572203@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: All you poor people that didn't grow up with a family go-kart track...Karting Kettle, Elkhart Lake...my Grandpa built that....Sorry, not sorry!!!KarenSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot Date: 12/31/20 8:24 AM (GMT-06:00) To: fot at autox.team.net, garygret at sbcglobal.net, fubog1 Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I was allowed to use the engine from our mower in my go-kart during the week as long as I re-installed it on the mower Friday night, so I could mow Saturday. All was good until I got ahold of some nitromethane from a drag racer friend around the corner... BTW, 10% is fine in a 4hp Briggs, 20% not so much. Apparently pistons are only supposed to have the one hole for the gudgeon pin!?Jake On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:16:46 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes. 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Bob Kramer On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 8:17 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and > scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [image: Wink]? > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp > go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel > exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the > rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before > the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the > magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing > supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a > serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > Duncan > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old > reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered > my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the > throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long > though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My > first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little > hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to > capture the guilty look. > > Gary Schneider > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > Glen Efinger > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother > John is driver. > > [image: glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > - > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So we (me and two of my brothers) figured out mounting it and found a clutch and chain and so on, but no throttle cable and no brakes. Anyways, one kid drove it while another stood on the axle and worked the carburetor, very scary screaming down the road standing on the back holding on with one hand I can tell you. I've gotten a little smarter since then, some will say not by much? Happy New Year Friends Brian On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 9:23 AM Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: > I was allowed to use the engine from our mower in my go-kart during the > week as long as I re-installed it on the mower Friday night, so I could mow > Saturday. All was good until I got ahold of some nitromethane from a drag > racer friend around the corner... BTW, 10% is fine in a 4hp Briggs, 20% not > so much. Apparently pistons are only supposed to have the one hole for the > gudgeon pin! [image: Emoji] > > Jake > > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:16:46 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and > scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [image: Wink]? > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp > go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel > exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the > rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before > the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the > magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing > supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a > serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > Duncan > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old > reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered > my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the > throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long > though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My > first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little > hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to > capture the guilty look. > > Gary Schneider > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > Glen Efinger > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother > John is driver. > > [image: glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > - > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano1 at gmail.com > > > -- Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But man was it fun. mike h On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 9:59 AM Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: > Up north we looked for old snowblowers. > > Bob Kramer > > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 8:17 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > >> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and >> scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [image: Wink]? >> Glen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >> To: Gary Schneider >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >> >> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp >> go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel >> exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the >> rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before >> the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the >> magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing >> supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a >> serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >> >> Duncan >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < >> fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old >> reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered >> my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the >> throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long >> though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My >> first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little >> hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to >> capture the guilty look. >> >> Gary Schneider >> >> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < >> fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, yes, and yes. >> Glen Efinger >> >> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my >> brother John is driver. >> >> [image: glensfirstracecar.jpg] >> >> >> >> - >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 09:44:25 AM CST, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: Mixing in a little Cox Glow Plug fuel (nitromethane) with the gas made sure our string of scraped lawn mower engines didn't live very long either.But man was it fun. mike h On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 9:59 AM Bob Kramer via Fot wrote: Up north we looked for old snowblowers. Bob Kramer On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 8:17 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ?Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot wrote: Yes, yes, and yes.Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ofracer at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:24:37 AM CST, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: I made this after hours in the school shop, arc welder, electrical conduit and used parts I scrounged when I was 14. ?Clearly should have built in a little more legroom, or this photo was taken later. ?Good for about 25 mph in the parking lots I ran it in. ?Good thing I did not know the nitromethane trick, but it would have blown up, but instead I sold it to a friend for $50. Yep, it was the early 70s. ?Bell bottoms and long hair. Scott Janzen Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave H. > On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [Wink]? > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > Duncan > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. > > > > Gary Schneider > > > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > > Glen Efinger > > > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. > > > > [glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > > > > > - > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't know how it got in there either, because it barely fit.? I had the fastest minibike in town.? Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sonomascot at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H. > On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [Wink]? > Glen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > Duncan > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. > > > > Gary Schneider > > > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > > Glen Efinger > > > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. > > > > [glensfirstracecar.jpg] > > > > > > > > - > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger.? We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine.? Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there.? The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling.? We thought that was pretty funny.? I still do.? A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger.? We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine.? Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there.? The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling.? We thought that was pretty funny.? I still do.? A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > ? > Great stuff here gang, keep it up! > I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...! > Glen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot > To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! > > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: > > > In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. > Dave H. >> On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? >> Glen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >> To: Gary Schneider >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >> >> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >> >> Duncan >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. >> >> Gary Schneider >> >> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, yes, and yes. >> Glen Efinger >> >> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Seems like some good stuff in there. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? Need any of this? Mostly Spitfire stuff, with a little GT6 mixed in. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Dec 31 13:19:03 2020 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 20:19:03 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Some GT6 Mk III rear windows.... Scott (B.) From: Fot on behalf of Barr, Scott via Fot Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 2:10:15 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper Need any of this? Mostly Spitfire stuff, with a little GT6 mixed in. [Image] Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 [Image] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: processed.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 662047 bytes Desc: processed.jpeg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: processed.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 694969 bytes Desc: processed.jpeg URL: From sjanzen at me.com Thu Dec 31 13:27:14 2020 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 15:27:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8557D472-A2EA-49B7-A015-818B3EEBE146@me.com> No idea, maybe some other lister knows how to tell them apart. Looks like you are all hitched up already and set to go. No worries . Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Barr, Scott wrote: > > ? > There is a rack, but no idea if it's Spit or GT6, or the condition. Do you know a quick way to tell? > > There is a lot of broken stuff in here. Some good stuff too, but I am not super interested in sorting the wheat from the chaff :-) > > > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > > > From: Scott Janzen > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020, 2:13 PM > To: Barr, Scott > Subject: Re: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper > > GT6 steering rack? I would take that if it?s any good. > Seems like some good stuff in there. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Need any of this? Mostly Spitfire stuff, with a little GT6 mixed in. >> >> >> >> >> >> Scott Barr >> McCarty Law LLP >> (920) 257-2233 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adcronin at mi.rr.com Thu Dec 31 13:41:58 2020 From: adcronin at mi.rr.com (Dan Cronin) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 15:41:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Go Cart In-Reply-To: <2106217253.3666784.1609432137866@mail.yahoo.com> References: <80397303-5A9F-4C51-833E-C90885C518F9@me.com> <2106217253.3666784.1609432137866@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1EFA96DF-3CE9-4D78-9126-8ED80723FBD6@mi.rr.com> My son in the early / mid 80?s on his wood frame TR3 wheeled, rope pull steering! On Dec 31, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: Very cool, Scott! Using those old "drag" brakes just prepared us for thinking British brakes from the '50's are great! On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:24:37 AM CST, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: I made this after hours in the school shop, arc welder, electrical conduit and used parts I scrounged when I was 14. Clearly should have built in a little more legroom, or this photo was taken later. Good for about 25 mph in the parking lots I ran it in. Good thing I did not know the nitromethane trick, but it would have blown up, but instead I sold it to a friend for $50. Yep, it was the early 70s. Bell bottoms and long hair. 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Looks like you are all hitched up already and set to go. No worries . Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Barr, Scott wrote: ? There is a rack, but no idea if it's Spit or GT6, or the condition. Do you know a quick way to tell? There is a lot of broken stuff in here. Some good stuff too, but I am not super interested in sorting the wheat from the chaff :-) Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 ________________________________ From: Scott Janzen Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020, 2:13 PM To: Barr, Scott Subject: Re: [Fot] Other stuff heading for the scrapper GT6 steering rack? I would take that if it?s any good. Seems like some good stuff in there. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 3:10 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? Need any of this? Mostly Spitfire stuff, with a little GT6 mixed in. 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URL: From JIBrooks at live.com Thu Dec 31 13:46:40 2020 From: JIBrooks at live.com (Jack Brooks) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 20:46:40 +0000 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <2124024677.3668766.1609424572203@mail.yahoo.com> References: <61F284CB-2C8B-4B5A-BC53-3904B47FA848@gmail.com> <1089968419.3490430.1609341048888@mail.yahoo.com> <906040624.5908405.1609389449462@mail.yahoo.com> <867977151.3649731.1609423933994@mail.yahoo.com> <2124024677.3668766.1609424572203@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was retroactively not allowed to put the old mower?s 3.5 HP Briggs and Stratton in my 5 speed Schwinn bicycle, but that bike was awesome for about a hour before Mom saw it and told me to park it until Dad got home. Dad gave me 30 minutes to get the old mower running again, which I barely completed on time. Being fair to my parents, that sucker was not at all safe or legal for the street but it was fun and fast! Jack From: Fot On Behalf Of Erik Jacobsen via Fot Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:23 AM To: fot at autox.team.net; garygret at sbcglobal.net; fubog1 Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I was allowed to use the engine from our mower in my go-kart during the week as long as I re-installed it on the mower Friday night, so I could mow Saturday. All was good until I got ahold of some nitromethane from a drag racer friend around the corner... BTW, 10% is fine in a 4hp Briggs, 20% not so much. Apparently pistons are only supposed to have the one hole for the gudgeon pin! [Emoji] Jake On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 08:16:46 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot > wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [Wink] ? Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > To: Gary Schneider > Cc: fot at autox.team.net >; fubog1 > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot > wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot > wrote: Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. 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With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake. Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position). He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY > On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > ?Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Great stuff here gang, keep it up! >> I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...! >> Glen >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot >> To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE >> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >> >> A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! >> >> On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: >> >> >> In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. >> Dave H. >>> On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? >>> Glen >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >>> To: Gary Schneider >>> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >>> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >>> >>> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >>> >>> Duncan >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. >>> >>> Gary Schneider >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Yes, yes, and yes. >>> Glen Efinger >>> >>> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sonomascot at aol.com Thu Dec 31 16:34:16 2020 From: sonomascot at aol.com (Scott Meredith) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> Message-ID: <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> Rick M.You win! -----Original Message----- From: Rick McCurdy via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: Friends Of Triumph Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 One Christmas (i might have been about 12 or 13 in ?69 or ?70), I asked for a go kart. Santa thought he would be just cool enough and I got a go kart frame. No engine. Some time later, the old Reo reel to reel mower gave up its motor for the cause. Of course, my folks would not let me ride the kart on the road, so it got beaten around the lawn and one day, I noticed the fuel line below the cylindrical brass tank leaking so I decided to repair it myself.?With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake.??Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position).He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: ?Great stuff here gang, keep it up!I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...!Glen -----Original Message----- From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 A miracle any of us survived to adulthood!? On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger.? We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine.? Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there.? The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling.? We thought that was pretty funny.? I still do.? A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sonomascot at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Thu Dec 31 16:48:31 2020 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 23:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1465187253.3773752.1609458511389@mail.yahoo.com> Don't be too quick, every time I declare a winner in my mind, I open the next post.This stuff is great, needs to be archived!Also after reading these posts, I somehow feel a little less strange...Glen -----Original Message----- From: Scott Meredith via Fot To: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 6:34 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 Rick M.You win! -----Original Message----- From: Rick McCurdy via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: Friends Of Triumph Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 One Christmas (i might have been about 12 or 13 in ?69 or ?70), I asked for a go kart. Santa thought he would be just cool enough and I got a go kart frame. No engine. Some time later, the old Reo reel to reel mower gave up its motor for the cause. Of course, my folks would not let me ride the kart on the road, so it got beaten around the lawn and one day, I noticed the fuel line below the cylindrical brass tank leaking so I decided to repair it myself.?With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake.??Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position).He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... Rick McCurdyNewburgh, NY On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: ?Great stuff here gang, keep it up!I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...!Glen -----Original Message----- From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 A miracle any of us survived to adulthood!? On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger.? We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine.? Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there.? The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling.? We thought that was pretty funny.? I still do.? A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H.? On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? ? Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen ? -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14.? After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump.? I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power.? I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan,?saving me from a serious?injury.? I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. ? Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. ? Gary Schneider ? On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: ? ? Yes, yes, and yes. Glen Efinger ? ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. ? ? ? ? - _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sonomascot at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Thu Dec 31 17:56:40 2020 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 19:56:40 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <318D545B238D4E439F3246F813DED382@VlackTK121647> Thankfully no one was injured and the house didn?t burn to the ground but I must say I began laughing at the 8 foot tall vapor fire and didn?t stop until the end. I wanted a go kart so bad but it never happened. There was a neighbor kid who mounted an engine on a wagon however and that thing would fly once he got it rolling. No issues with the hills around my Pittsburgh neighborhood either. I agree Rick?s story is the best so far. JVV From: Scott Meredith via Fot Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:34 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 Rick M. You win! -----Original Message----- From: Rick McCurdy via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: Friends Of Triumph Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 2:26 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 One Christmas (i might have been about 12 or 13 in ?69 or ?70), I asked for a go kart. Santa thought he would be just cool enough and I got a go kart frame. No engine. Some time later, the old Reo reel to reel mower gave up its motor for the cause. Of course, my folks would not let me ride the kart on the road, so it got beaten around the lawn and one day, I noticed the fuel line below the cylindrical brass tank leaking so I decided to repair it myself. With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake. Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position). He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: ? Great stuff here gang, keep it up! I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...! Glen -----Original Message----- From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. Dave H. On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? Glen -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton via Fot To: Gary Schneider Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. Duncan On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. Gary Schneider On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: Yes, yes, and yes. 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URL: From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 31 18:15:50 2020 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 18:15:50 -0700 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1465187253.3773752.1609458511389@mail.yahoo.com> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> <1465187253.3773752.1609458511389@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 12/31/20 4:48 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > This stuff is great, needs to be archived! Uh, check out the archive links at the bottom of each real time message.? They might be at the top of digest messages. mjb. From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 31 18:27:47 2020 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS DELAP) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 19:27:47 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <0EDE675E-C492-4565-9EA9-0BA82CE7A483@sbcglobal.net> References: <0EDE675E-C492-4565-9EA9-0BA82CE7A483@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <049FD00E-4FCA-41EF-9246-74828308D53C@sbcglobal.net> Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 2:56 PM, DENNIS DELAP wrote: > > ?I finally built one with steering- albeit backwards? > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 31, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! >> >> On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: >> >> >> In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. >> Dave H. >>> On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? >>> Glen >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >>> To: Gary Schneider >>> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >>> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >>> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >>> >>> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >>> >>> Duncan >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. >>> >>> Gary Schneider >>> >>> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Yes, yes, and yes. >>> Glen Efinger >>> >>> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dlhogye at comcast.net Thu Dec 31 18:49:53 2020 From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 17:49:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <318D545B238D4E439F3246F813DED382@VlackTK121647> References: <745A6DB9-91F1-4FC1-92FE-D73A42A5CF54@aol.com> <4397A26D-47CF-42E7-AF02-C0B4039FC889@aol.com> <1071165154.1243306.1609457656437@mail.yahoo.com> <318D545B238D4E439F3246F813DED382@VlackTK121647> Message-ID: <635662486.190182.1609465794336@connect.xfinity.com> Yes! Great laughs gang. Thanks for sharing these memories. The photos are classic. Happy Anniversary FoT. Thanks Mark. Dave H. > On 12/31/2020 4:56 PM Jerry Van Vlack via Fot wrote: > > > Thankfully no one was injured and the house didn?t burn to the ground but I must say I began laughing at the 8 foot tall vapor fire and didn?t stop until the end. I wanted a go kart so bad but it never happened. There was a neighbor kid who mounted an engine on a wagon however and that thing would fly once he got it rolling. No issues with the hills around my Pittsburgh neighborhood either. > I agree Rick?s story is the best so far. > JVV > > From: Scott Meredith via Fot > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 6:34 PM > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > Rick M. > You win! > [Smile] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick McCurdy via Fot > To: Phil Gott > Cc: Friends Of Triumph > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 2:26 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > One Christmas (i might have been about 12 or 13 in ?69 or ?70), I asked for a go kart. Santa thought he would be just cool enough and I got a go kart frame. No engine. Some time later, the old Reo reel to reel mower gave up its motor for the cause. Of course, my folks would not let me ride the kart on the road, so it got beaten around the lawn and one day, I noticed the fuel line below the cylindrical brass tank leaking so I decided to repair it myself. > With a propane torch and some solder... rookie mistake. > > Needless to say, it didn?t go well. Just as I touched the offending leak with the torch, the tank lit up like a flame thrower, blowing a jet of fire about 8 feet straight up out of the vent hole. After a bit of ?Holey crap!? hyperventilating, I ran around to the back porch where my parents were enjoying a relaxing libation at the end of a fine summer day and I tried, without being too specific or panicky, to get my dad to come out front and help me with events unfolding at the entrance to the garage. Mom must have sensed some urgency and suggested Fred go out front and see what was the fuss (he was also nursing a back pain issue at the moment, and was somewhat reluctant to get out of his reclined position). > He did, and when we rounded the corner the flames were licking at the soffit. With eyebrows raised, he grabbed the kart and dragged it out to the lawn from under the house and frantically looked around for something to smother the fire. The green Astro turf carpet on the front porch proved to be the only thing within reach and he threw it over the kart and stepped back. Almost immediately, a hole appeared as the tank torched the rug. Then the top blew off and it was over. I don?t recall ever finding the top, but I did learn a thing or two about compression fittings that day. You don?t need to solder them to stop a leak. > > Afterward, dad was pretty mellow about that, all things considered. I never heard about it again from him. But you know, I?d have never learned that lesson if the Kart came with an engine... > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > > > > On Dec 31, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wish I had a picture of my go kart back in the day. Came with a very tired West Bend 2-stroke engine. Pretty Hot. But I got my hands on a Honda Super 90 motorcycle engine and 4 (or was it 5?) speed transmission. Cobbled it together. Went like crazy until the motor mounts bent and the chain wrapped around the sprocket. My first-ever spin...... > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Dec 31, 2020, at 12:57 PM, fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Great stuff here gang, keep it up! > > I was gonna tell of my twin briggs & stratton engine kart, but it pales compared to some of these stories...! > > Glen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot > > To: fubog1 ; fubog1 via Fot ; garygret at sbcglobal.net ; DAVE HOGYE > > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 12:03 pm > > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > > > > > A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! > > > > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: > > > > > > In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. > > Dave H. > > > > > > > On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers [Wink]? > > > Glen > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Duncan Charlton via Fot > > > To: Gary Schneider > > > Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 > > > Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am > > > Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 > > > > > > I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. > > > > > > Duncan > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. > > > > > > > > Gary Schneider > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, yes, and yes. > > > > Glen Efinger > > > > > > > > ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage : http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot at autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sonomascot at aol.com > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Styduhar, Daniel Lee via Fot wrote: > > ? > > > Gene, Ed 91 years old and still with us, and Austin > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 31 13:56:02 2020 From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS DELAP) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2020 14:56:02 -0600 Subject: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 In-Reply-To: <1528303303.3700824.1609434217422@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1528303303.3700824.1609434217422@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0EDE675E-C492-4565-9EA9-0BA82CE7A483@sbcglobal.net> I finally built one with steering- albeit backwards? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: > > ? > A miracle any of us survived to adulthood! > > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 10:58:34 AM CST, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote: > > > In my freshman year of high school, a friend in took a washing machine apart, had the water pump in his hand and thought it looked just like a turbo charger. We thought, why not attach it to a minibike engine. Before attaching it to an engine, he somehow spun the pump up and another classmate thought he might put his finger in there. The tip of his finger shot out of the other end and hit the ceiling. We thought that was pretty funny. I still do. A pencil would have been a better idea. > Dave H. >> On 12/31/2020 6:12 AM fubog1 via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Ok so how many others used to get up extra early on trash pickup day and scour the neighborhood for junk reel lawnmowers ? >> Glen >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Duncan Charlton via Fot >> To: Gary Schneider >> Cc: fot at autox.team.net ; fubog1 >> Sent: Thu, Dec 31, 2020 8:38 am >> Subject: Re: [Fot] 25th Anniversary of the FOT 2021 >> >> I discovered the same as Gary did with the Tecumseh engine on my Rupp go-kart when I was 13 or 14. After about a year of this the flywheel exploded, with the heavy magnet portion deciding to end its union with the rest of the lump. I felt a big impact behind my right shoulder just before the engine suddenly lost power. I was damned lucky that the chunk with the magnet (which must have weighed 2 or 3 lbs.) bounced off the steel tubing supporting the edge of the sheet metal seat pan, saving me from a serious injury. I found the piece about 30 feet away in the grass. >> >> Duncan >> >> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 10:39 PM Gary Schneider via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Glen, that's great! My dad built me a go-kart out of plywood and an old reel lawnmower when I was around that size or a little bigger. I discovered my first speed mod: it went lots faster if you tied a string to the throttle and pulled it open past the governor. Turned out not for very long though, a big BANG clang-a-lang-a-lang after a few hot laps of the yard. My first motorized device and the first engine I blew up. Ungrateful little hellion. Fortunately there was no photographic evidence or body cams to capture the guilty look. >> >> Gary Schneider >> >> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020, 9:13:16 AM CST, fubog1 via Fot < fot at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> >> Yes, yes, and yes. >> Glen Efinger >> >> ps- here's my picture in advance, the 1st racecar I ever built, my brother John is driver. >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye at comcast.net >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow-green at sbcglobal.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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