[Fot] Old (RACE) Cars

Tue May 26 05:33:43 MDT 2020

Well last year my brother in law’s boat developed a fuel problem, and I came to realize pressurizing the tank manually got us back home.   My trumpet lungs came in handy!  Too bad there wasn’t a pump handy!   
(Priming bulb didn’t work as turns out the leak was in the tank fitting)

Dave Gott

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On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 2:10 AM, fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com> wrote:

 Yep pressurized tank.Glen

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From: Terry Stetler <tlizzard at msn.com>
To: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com>; fot at autox.team.net <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, May 25, 2020 12:45 pm
Subject: RE: [Fot] Old (RACE) Cars

#yiv0203242680 -- filtered {}#yiv0203242680 filtered {}#yiv0203242680 filtered {}#yiv0203242680 p.yiv0203242680MsoNormal, #yiv0203242680 li.yiv0203242680MsoNormal, #yiv0203242680 div.yiv0203242680MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0203242680 a:link, #yiv0203242680 span.yiv0203242680MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0203242680 .yiv0203242680MsoChpDefault {}#yiv0203242680 filtered {}#yiv0203242680 div.yiv0203242680WordSection1 {}#yiv0203242680 Air pump to pressurize the fuel tank?  Very common in the olden days. Also the way it was done in WW1 aircraft, though they had a tiny air pump driven by the slipstream of the aircraft via a little propeller, and often there was also a gravity feed tank , and, a rubber bulb in the cockpit to manually build up pressure for starting.Nothing like having a fuel/air bomb right behind your seat to raise the adrenalin levels.   Terry Stetler   Sent from Mail for Windows 10   From: fubog1
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 10:51 AM
To: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Old (RACE) Cars   Ah the manual fuel pump! Some years back a buddy was trying to figure out how to get both of his race cars to a dirt-track event @ Zephyrhills Fla, not far from Sebring. He had a big Indy car w/a GMC 6, and a midget w/V-8 60, real cars, not modern repros. Both with the handle on the left. We fixed that problem real easy, I hauled one over in exchange for seat time in both. The big car was a handful but the Midget was almost way too much fun! Glen Efinger             -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
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Sent: Sun, May 24, 2020 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Old Cars Is that a manual fuel pump mounted outside (driver's left)?    Bill Dentinger    Sent from AOL Mobile Mail
Get the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com    On Sunday, May 24, 2020, Larry Young via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:    
My dad was a Ford guy. He tried to brainwash me on Fords too, but I
rebelled and got a TR250 rather than a Mustang (good move right?). 
Anyway, he had a 1926 Model T which he got when I was about 8 years old 
and I inherited it when he stopped driving. I naturally gravitated to 
the performance end of the Model T hobby. Most people our age think 
sports cars and hotrodding started after WWII, but the same thing 
happened when the doughboys came back fror WWI. They wanted cars like 
they had seen in Europe. The Model T was the natural platform, since 
they were so abundant. I call my other one my "Poor Man's Bugatti" (see 
photo). It was built in 1922 on a junked 1914 roadster chassis. It was 
fitted with a mail order boattail body. It has several performance 
upgrades which were available in the period, e.g. full pressure oiling, 
RAJO overhead valve conversion, 2 speed rear axle (also a J-type 
overdrive not available in '22). I plan to build another speedster. I've 
got another speedster body and a Model T motor with a SOC head. There 
were a lot of speed parts available for those cars.

I wouldn't put to much weight on what the manual says for lubrication. 
Most lubricants today are better than anything available then. I run 
straight 30w or 10w-30 in the '26 which is still running with splash 
oiling. You want the oil to be fairly thin to get into the bearings. The 
Model T manual calls for 600w oil in the rearend, but there is some 
debate about how oils were designated back then (before SAE standards). 
I use the same Sta-lube GL4 90w that I use in my Triumph. Penrite makes 
a heavy steering box lube that I use in one car. I don't know how it 
compares to cornhead grease. I am surprised about how slow GM was to 
adopt more modern technology. Ford went to tapered roller wheel bearings 
around 1920 and pressure oiling about 1932. They got away from babbitted 
bearing in 1936 and started using oil filters about the same time. 
However, it was a bypass system, not full flow oil filtration. It is all 
eventually filtered (after it flow around enough times).
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