From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Mon Mar 1 10:38:41 2021 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2021 17:38:41 +0000 Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Message-ID: I was approached to look into this in 1990 and insisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 year comparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers on board Sue Harsh was a great help Tom Mahoney and COCTRA came own board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were great promoters Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd . Greatest event in history MHO! -----------------------------------------From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" To: "Jack Wheeler" Cc: "FOT Triumph" Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to get serious credit for this. There were several people that attended that influenced them to join the vintage racing scene. The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on that event. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: ? I was there as well. That was when I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA. Charles Runyan had asked me to bring my car over and put it on display at The Roadster Factory tent. I think TRF helped sponsor the event. I towed my car over with my race van and brought my Harley along in the back of the van. Once I dropped the race car off at the TRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent the rest of the weekend riding around on my Harley. Great fun. Great memories. Jack On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot wrote: I was there, as a spectator. If you look real carefully, you can see me in my BRG TR3 with Revolution wheels and only front over riders (no bumper) pulling out on track for the parade laps. As we were waiting to go on track, Bob Tullius walked by and said he liked how I had my car set up! Good times. Terry Stetler Sent from Mail [1] for Windows 10 FROM: yellow04 via Fot SENT: Sunday, February 28, 2021 10:24 AM TO: fot at autox.team.net SUBJECT: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio A while back we had a discussion about the 1992 Mid-Ohio event, and folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared some video he took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us a bunch of pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. Thanks Dan! 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URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Mon Mar 1 11:03:24 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 18:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1321506305.638117.1614621804278@mail.yahoo.com> Yeah I'm going to agree, out of all of the hundreds of races that I've been to in some capacity or other, Mid-O '92 Vintage pretty much stands at the top of the list, the TR force was STRONG that weekend!!!(It was especially quite an adventure hauling up from south florida in my (still) daily-driver 66SWB Land Rover, 3 days up, 2 1/2 back including rigging-up a split trailer tongue patch)It's good to see that many of us are still around, sad that a few aren't, but that the FOT is very much alive & well, thanks to all who make it all happen! Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: T. R. Householder via Fot To: 'Joe Alexander' ; 'fot at autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio I was approached to look into this in 1990 and insisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 year comparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers on board Sue Harsh was a great help ?Tom Mahoney and COCTRA came own board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were great promoters ?Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd . Greatest event in history MHO! -----------------------------------------From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" To: "Jack Wheeler" Cc: "FOT Triumph" Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to get serious creditfor this. There were several people that attended that influenced themto join the vintage racing scene. The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on that event.? Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Jack Wheelervia Fot wrote: ?I was there as well.? Thatwas when I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA.? Charles Runyanhad asked me to bring my car over and put it on display at TheRoadster Factory tent.? I think TRF helped sponsor theevent.? I towed my car over with my race van and brought myHarley along in the back of the van.? Once I dropped the racecar off at the TRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent therest of the weekend riding around on my Harley.? Greatfun.? Great memories. Jack On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST, Terry Stetlervia Fot wrote: I was there, as aspectator.? If you look real carefully, you can see me in myBRG TR3 with Revolution wheels and only front over riders (nobumper) pulling out on track for the parade laps.As we were waiting togo on track, Bob Tullius walked by and said he liked how I had mycar set up!?Good times.?Terry StetlerSent from Mail for Windows 10?From: yellow04 via Fot Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 10:24 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio?A while back we had a discussion about the1992 Mid-Ohio event, and folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared somevideo he took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us abunch of pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. ThanksDan! 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URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 11:36:09 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 12:36:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio In-Reply-To: <8a1536064923c10dc5b592e206736dfc@tr4racer.com> References: <8a1536064923c10dc5b592e206736dfc@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: I missed the 1992 Mid Ohio event, even though my current TR4 did not. Although I've had a TR6 since 1977, I didn't get involved with any clubs until the 1989 VTR National was held in Texas. I wasn't able to go to the National, but the knowledge that there was a chapter in Houston, DFW and San Antonio gave me the impetus to get the Hill Country Triumph Cub started. The club started fast and we met many like minded people at the Texas Regional in New Braunfels in 1990. I started autocrossing the TR6 and the wick was lit. In 1991 we towed my daily driver (3 kids) TR6 to Savannah GA for the VTR National. The host club GTA arranged for the autocross event to be held at Roebling Road. I had fun doing the autocross but the real fun happened on the way back to the front straight to line up again. Triumph race cars were everywhere because the event included what I remember as a race car onlySolo track event over the weekend. As a TR6 guy I spent some time talking to JK Jackson who had brought along a troupe of TR6 racers. It was a long time ago but I think Bill Dentinger was there, and Glen Efinger, and probably a lot more FoT than I knew. That event served to get the candle kept burning for me. Bob Kramer On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 9:24 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > A while back we had a discussion about the 1992 Mid-Ohio event, and > folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared some video he > took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us a bunch of > pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. Thanks Dan! > > All great stuff and it's on the event's page: > > https://fot-racing.com/fot-feature-events/mid-ohio-1992/ > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grandwazoo at earthlink.net Mon Mar 1 11:53:30 2021 From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 13:53:30 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Message-ID: <1664655795.4151.1614624810995@wamui-agami.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Mon Mar 1 12:11:57 2021 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2021 19:11:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Message-ID: <22b21e1b55ae6616b979b811d7bdd7fc80559286@webmail> Not sure if I posted this but lost my Wife and best friend over 50 years last week She was a big help at Mid Ohio 92 and 02 https://www.facebook.com/susie.householder -----------------------------------------From: "Mike Jackson via Fot" To: "fubog1", "fot at autox.team.net", "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" Cc: Sent: Monday March 1 2021 1:54:06PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio It remains a huge memory of a great race weekend. It would never have happened, or been as great for me personally without Tom creating the event and Glen creating our TR3 from an old street car. It will race again still largely in the same spec as nearly 30 years ago. Thanks to both of you! Mike Jackson -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 via Fot Sent: Mar 1, 2021 1:03 PM To: "fot at autox.team.net" , "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Yeah I'm going to agree, out of all of the hundreds of races that I've been to in some capacity or other, Mid-O '92 Vintage pretty much stands at the top of the list, the TR force was STRONG that weekend!!! (It was especially quite an adventure hauling up from south florida in my (still) daily-driver 66SWB Land Rover, 3 days up, 2 1/2 back including rigging-up a split trailer tongue patch) It's good to see that many of us are still around, sad that a few aren't, but that the FOT is very much alive & well, thanks to all who make it all happen! Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: T. R. Householder via Fot To: 'Joe Alexander' ; 'fot at autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio I was approached to look into this in 1990 and insisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 year comparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers on board Sue Harsh was a great help Tom Mahoney and COCTRA came own board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were great promoters Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd . Greatest event in history MHO! ----------------------------------------- From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" To: "Jack Wheeler" Cc: "FOT Triumph" Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to get serious credit for this. There were several people that attended that influenced them to join the vintage racing scene. The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on that event. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: ? I was there as well. That was when I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA. Charles Runyan had asked me to bring my car over and put it on display at The Roadster Factory tent. I think TRF helped sponsor the event. I towed my car over with my race van and brought my Harley along in the back of the van. Once I dropped the race car off at the TRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent the rest of the weekend riding around on my Harley. Great fun. Great memories. Jack On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot wrote: I was there, as a spectator. If you look real carefully, you can see me in my BRG TR3 with Revolution wheels and only front over riders (no bumper) pulling out on track for the parade laps. 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URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Mon Mar 1 12:46:16 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 19:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio In-Reply-To: <22b21e1b55ae6616b979b811d7bdd7fc80559286@webmail> References: <22b21e1b55ae6616b979b811d7bdd7fc80559286@webmail> Message-ID: <2097776265.585140.1614627976224@mail.yahoo.com> Very sorry to hear this Tom, hang in there, the loss of others makes us appreciate every new day more...Glen -----Original Message----- From: T. R. Householder via Fot To: 'Mike Jackson' Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net' ; 'fubog1' Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 2:11 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Not sure if I posted this but lost my Wife and best friend over 50 years last week She was a big help at Mid Ohio 92 and 02 https://www.facebook.com/susie.householder -----------------------------------------From: "Mike Jackson via Fot" To: "fubog1", "fot at autox.team.net", "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" Cc: Sent: Monday March 1 2021 1:54:06PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio It remains a huge memory of a great race weekend.It would never have happened, or been as great for mepersonally without Tom creating the event and Glen creating our TR3from an old street car.? It will race again still largely inthe same spec as nearly 30 years ago. Thanks to both of you! Mike Jackson -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 via Fot Sent: Mar 1, 2021 1:03 PM To: "fot at autox.team.net" , "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Yeah I'm going to agree, out of all of thehundreds of races that I've been to in some capacity or other,Mid-O '92 Vintage pretty much stands at the top of the list, the TRforce was STRONG that weekend!!!(It was especially quite an adventure haulingup from south florida in my (still) daily-driver 66SWB Land Rover,3 days up, 2 1/2 back including rigging-up a split trailer tonguepatch)It's good to see that many of us are stillaround, sad that a few aren't, but that the FOT is very much alive& well, thanks to all who make it all happen! Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: T. R. Householder via Fot To: 'Joe Alexander' ;'fot at autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio I was approached to look into this in 1990 andinsisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 yearcomparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers onboard Sue Harsh was a great help ?Tom Mahoney and COCTRA cameown board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were greatpromoters ?Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd. Greatest event in history MHO! -----------------------------------------From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" To: "Jack Wheeler" Cc: "FOT Triumph" Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to getserious credit for this. There were several people that attended thatinfluenced them to join the vintage racing scene. The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on thatevent.? Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, JackWheeler via Fot wrote: ?I was there as well.? That waswhen I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA.? Charles Runyan hadasked me to bring my car over and put it on display at The RoadsterFactory tent.? I think TRF helped sponsor the event.? Itowed my car over with my race van and brought my Harley along inthe back of the van.? Once I dropped the race car off at theTRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent the rest of theweekend riding around on my Harley.? Great fun.? Greatmemories. Jack On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST,Terry Stetler via Fot wrote: I was there, as a spectator.? If you look realcarefully, you can see me in my BRG TR3 with Revolution wheels andonly front over riders (no bumper) pulling out on track for theparade laps.As we were waiting to go on track, Bob Tulliuswalked by and said he liked how I had my car set up!?Good times.?Terry StetlerSent from Mail forWindows 10?From: yellow04 via Fot Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 10:24 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event atMid-Ohio?A while back we had adiscussion about the 1992 Mid-Ohio event, and folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared somevideo he took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us abunch of pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. ThanksDan! 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URL: From jshawtr2 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 1 13:19:26 2021 From: jshawtr2 at yahoo.com (Jim Shaw) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 15:19:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio In-Reply-To: <1664655795.4151.1614624810995@wamui-agami.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <1664655795.4151.1614624810995@wamui-agami.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3E723E12-3846-45EE-839B-5DB9E2163CB5@yahoo.com> I remember that one well. Great event thanks to all that made it happen. I also remember getting a speeding ticket trying to catch Jack. Him Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 1, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Mike Jackson via Fot wrote: > > ? > It remains a huge memory of a great race weekend. > It would never have happened, or been as great for me personally without Tom creating the event and Glen creating our TR3 from an old street car. It will race again still largely in the same spec as nearly 30 years ago. > > Thanks to both of you! > > Mike Jackson > > -----Original Message----- > From: fubog1 via Fot > Sent: Mar 1, 2021 1:03 PM > To: "fot at autox.team.net" , "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" > Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio > > Yeah I'm going to agree, out of all of the hundreds of races that I've been to in some capacity or other, Mid-O '92 Vintage pretty much stands at the top of the list, the TR force was STRONG that weekend!!! > (It was especially quite an adventure hauling up from south florida in my (still) daily-driver 66SWB Land Rover, 3 days up, 2 1/2 back including rigging-up a split trailer tongue patch) > It's good to see that many of us are still around, sad that a few aren't, but that the FOT is very much alive & well, thanks to all who make it all happen! > > Glen Efinger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: T. R. Householder via Fot > To: 'Joe Alexander' ; 'fot at autox.team.net' > Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 12:38 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio > > I was approached to look into this in 1990 and insisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 year comparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers on board Sue Harsh was a great help Tom Mahoney and COCTRA came own board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were great promoters Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd . Greatest event in history MHO! > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" > To: "Jack Wheeler" > Cc: "FOT Triumph" > Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio > > Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. > > Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to get serious credit for this. > > There were several people that attended that influenced them to join the vintage racing scene. > > The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on that event. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: > > ? > I was there as well. That was when I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA. Charles Runyan had asked me to bring my car over and put it on display at The Roadster Factory tent. I think TRF helped sponsor the event. I towed my car over with my race van and brought my Harley along in the back of the van. Once I dropped the race car off at the TRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent the rest of the weekend riding around on my Harley. Great fun. Great memories. > > Jack > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot wrote: > > > I was there, as a spectator. If you look real carefully, you can see me in my BRG TR3 with Revolution wheels and only front over riders (no bumper) pulling out on track for the parade laps. > As we were waiting to go on track, Bob Tullius walked by and said he liked how I had my car set up! > > Good times. > > Terry Stetler > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: yellow04 via Fot > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 10:24 AM > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio > > A while back we had a discussion about the 1992 Mid-Ohio event, and > folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared some video he > took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us a bunch of > pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. Thanks Dan! > > All great stuff and it's on the event's page: > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffot-racing.com%2Ffot-feature-events%2Fmid-ohio-1992%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690200076%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=2cWY2G56x05pmtgzsDk8ZWob%2Bje3D8GcRg2A21QnWZE%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=0YscLb9IaK9hBM4CPUXIv1kfMYEgjgP8cK43yuvlQ%2BM%3D&reserved=0 > > Donate: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Yky1S01gnBeYzlsDgJyK8Cd8EMmGdlCr7fEAmntI6SU%3D&reserved=0 > Archive: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Farchive&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=zeALenM0RWp0tIidrJC7h6%2F%2BV9w7%2B55mUu08clGVrXc%3D&reserved=0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Ffot&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=p5he%2FrT040JJZDPr%2Fa6%2Bd9ilzvKc5ekPiK06fwyI%2FYY%3D&reserved=0 > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Ftlizzard%40msn.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Uo4l56jbo%2B3LRdWTmTKbXU2uUjR%2FX1n4DxfQMxqUI%2Bk%3D&reserved=0 > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jshawtr2 at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Seeing as Lacey III will be ready for the track this year :-) Jamie Palmer Sent from my iPad > On Mar 2, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Joe Henry via Fot wrote: > > ? > Photo of our TR6 at the 2012 Kastner Cup at Road Atlanta driven by Joe Downer. > > Joe Downer > Charlotte, NC > <474FFE1C-4DB4-4793-80EF-139D6BBD0CC5.jpeg> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Seeing as Lacey III will be ready for the track this year :-) > > Jamie Palmer > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 2, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Joe Henry via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> Photo of our TR6 at the 2012 Kastner Cup at Road Atlanta driven by Joe Downer. >> >> Joe Downer >> Charlotte, NC >> <474FFE1C-4DB4-4793-80EF-139D6BBD0CC5.jpeg> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver at yahoo.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen at charter.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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His name is Bruce Turner and his contact number is on the attached flyer. I have seen this car and it is a very well prepared and well-equipped car, could also make a great vintage racer. It has not been raced for a while and is located in the Columbus, Ohio area. Sam Halkias -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Turner Spitfire for sale.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 561729 bytes Desc: Turner Spitfire for sale.pdf URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 17:00:36 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 16:00:36 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Always a second on a Spitfire guy! I believe Ian has become active on our ?Racing the Triumph Spitfire? Facebook group as well. Cheers, Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > > ? > I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. > > He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. > > Can I get a second? > > mike h > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From fmccjr at aol.com Thu Mar 4 17:05:42 2021 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:05:42 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C6C6B36-BA3E-4286-AAD3-4DF0DBE09208@aol.com> SECOND!! Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY > On Mar 4, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ?Always a second on a Spitfire guy! > > I believe Ian has become active on our ?Racing the Triumph Spitfire? Facebook group as well. > > Cheers, > > > Brad Eells > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. >> >> He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. >> >> Can I get a second? >> >> mike h >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > From trmarty at hotmail.com Thu Mar 4 17:45:46 2021 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 00:45:46 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Second for sure. Marty ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Mike Harmuth via Fot Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 6:50 PM To: FoTTriumph ; Ian Johnson Subject: [Fot] Nomination I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. Can I get a second? mike h -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Thu Mar 4 18:24:20 2021 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 01:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> Here's a suggestion for prepping his car.? Buy the car that Sam recently posted.? Having built cars from a street car, in the long run it is usually better to start with an already built race car.? The disadvantage is the upfront cost.? When you build a car, the money is spent over time, but in the long run, more money is spent.? If the upfront cost can be handled, the car can be put on track almost immediately (if there is still money left for entry fees and so on).? That's my 2 cents.? JoeB On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 06:52:01 PM EST, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a? New York youngster who bought a Spitfire?race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. He's autocrossed?it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. Can I get a second? mike h_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Thu Mar 4 18:55:30 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:55:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7A161D72-C36A-409A-A60D-BE6856E48C8F@aol.com> Second! Gotta support those who want to carry the legacy forward!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 4, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > ? > Here's a suggestion for prepping his car. Buy the car that Sam recently posted. Having built cars from a street car, in the long run it is usually better to start with an already built race car. The disadvantage is the upfront cost. When you build a car, the money is spent over time, but in the long run, more money is spent. If the upfront cost can be handled, the car can be put on track almost immediately (if there is still money left for entry fees and so on). That's my 2 cents. JoeB > > On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 06:52:01 PM EST, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > > > I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. > > He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. > > Can I get a second? > > mike h > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Mar 4 19:38:46 2021 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 02:38:46 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> References: , <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hear, hear. Started with a street car, ended up with a tarted-up street car. Still, had a ball with it on track, but would have been much better off with an old race car. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Joe Boruch via Fot Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 7:24:20 PM To: FoTTriumph ; Ian Johnson ; Mike Harmuth Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Here's a suggestion for prepping his car. Buy the car that Sam recently posted. Having built cars from a street car, in the long run it is usually better to start with an already built race car. The disadvantage is the upfront cost. When you build a car, the money is spent over time, but in the long run, more money is spent. If the upfront cost can be handled, the car can be put on track almost immediately (if there is still money left for entry fees and so on). That's my 2 cents. JoeB On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 06:52:01 PM EST, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. Can I get a second? mike h _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 21:39:02 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:39:02 -0800 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> References: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Hello everyone, Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been much more complicated. The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look forward to racing with you all soon. Thanks, Chuck > On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > > ?Hello all, > > I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. > > If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll ship once I receive payment. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> ?Hi Amici, >> >> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ?Hello all, >>> >>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send again. >>> >>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? >>> >>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order and get them going. >>> >>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hello all, >>>> >>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth so far and I appreciate it! >>>> >>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. >>>> >>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! >>>> >>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. >>>>> >>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 reference. >>>>> >>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Chuck Gee >>>>> >>>>> This is the back: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT logo though with some friends of triumph wording): >>>>> >>>>> From rkramer56 at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 06:25:11 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 07:25:11 -0600 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> References: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mine has been christened. Short story, humorous to me at least. I wore my Explosives shirt.last Saturday morning to get a haircut. I wanted to break it in before the first laundering. Being half Italian I have more than my share of hair on the back of my neck and the freshly cut hairs get caught in the collar of the shirt I wear for a haircut. I get annoyed easily and the collar makes me itch. I routinely throw that shirt in the wash after the haircut. The lady that cut my hair must have done a good job with tying off that little swath of paper because I didn't have any itching. Next thing I knowmy wife is asking me "I thought you weren't going to get that shirt all greasy?" She is still soaking it. I'm thinking a few grease stains are appropriate. Bob Kramer On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:42 PM Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m > shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly > do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been > much more complicated. > > The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! > I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look > forward to racing with you all soon. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > > > > ?Hello all, > > > > I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came > out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. > > > > If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll > ship once I receive payment. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chuck > > > >> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> ?Hi Amici, > >> > >> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime > this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do > so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. > >> > >> Chuck > >> > >>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>> > >>> ?Hello all, > >>> > >>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed > interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send > again. > >>> > >>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top > tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? > >>> > >>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this > off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order > and get them going. > >>> > >>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! > >>> > >>> Chuck > >>> > >>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ?Hello all, > >>>> > >>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth > so far and I appreciate it! > >>>> > >>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus > shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. > >>>> > >>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get > in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost > is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can > always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! > >>>> > >>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. > Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you > don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to > the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need > addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as > PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not > exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Chuck > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ?Hello all, > >>>>> > >>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These > were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to > parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. > >>>>> > >>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and > decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of > you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere > between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone > interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to > illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 > reference. > >>>>> > >>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my > original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>>> Chuck Gee > >>>>> > >>>>> This is the back: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT > logo though with some friends of triumph wording): > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 06:47:06 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 08:47:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> References: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks again Chuck! > On Mar 4, 2021, at 23:41, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Hello everyone, > > Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been much more complicated. > > The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look forward to racing with you all soon. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> ?Hello all, >> >> I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. >> >> If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll ship once I receive payment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ?Hi Amici, >>> >>> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hello all, >>>> >>>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send again. >>>> >>>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? >>>> >>>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order and get them going. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth so far and I appreciate it! >>>>> >>>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. >>>>> >>>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! >>>>> >>>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. >>>>>> >>>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 reference. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck Gee >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the back: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT logo though with some friends of triumph wording): >>>>>> >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From michaelndeweerd at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 08:15:15 2021 From: michaelndeweerd at gmail.com (Michael Deweerd) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 10:15:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> References: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Love the shirts and I'm looking forward to (FINGERS AND TOES CROSSED) having a race season this year. Perhaps the Border will be open and I can see you guys at an event this summer!!! Cheers Amici Mike Deweerd TR4 On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 11:42 PM Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m > shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly > do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been > much more complicated. > > The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! > I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look > forward to racing with you all soon. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > > > > ?Hello all, > > > > I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came > out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. > > > > If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll > ship once I receive payment. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chuck > > > >> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> ?Hi Amici, > >> > >> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime > this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do > so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. > >> > >> Chuck > >> > >>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>> > >>> ?Hello all, > >>> > >>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed > interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send > again. > >>> > >>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top > tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? > >>> > >>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this > off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order > and get them going. > >>> > >>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! > >>> > >>> Chuck > >>> > >>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ?Hello all, > >>>> > >>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth > so far and I appreciate it! > >>>> > >>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus > shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. > >>>> > >>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get > in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost > is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can > always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! > >>>> > >>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. > Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you > don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to > the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need > addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as > PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not > exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Chuck > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ?Hello all, > >>>>> > >>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These > were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to > parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. > >>>>> > >>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and > decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of > you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere > between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone > interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to > illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 > reference. > >>>>> > >>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my > original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>>> Chuck Gee > >>>>> > >>>>> This is the back: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT > logo though with some friends of triumph wording): > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com > > > -- *Mike Deweerd* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 5 08:30:06 2021 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 08:30:06 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <196d1837-4dae-bd4e-7f98-9ee855ce4e7a@bradakis.com> On 3/4/21 4:50 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a? New York youngster who bought a > Spitfire?race car and is in the process of building it into a road > racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is > looking for some suggestions on prepping it. > > He's autocrossed?it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well > as vintage racing. > > Can I get a second? > He's been added.? And he has already posted to the Racing the Triumph Spitfire Facebook page. mjb. From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Fri Mar 5 10:43:05 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 11:43:05 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tony Drews contact Message-ID: <9F669C18-ACD2-4705-BA5F-DC9A622A106B@icloud.com> Sorry to bomb the list but my phone was erased recently. Tony can you contact me off list? Gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone From lunkercars at yahoo.com Fri Mar 5 15:46:02 2021 From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 15:46:02 -0700 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> References: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43165629-C9FA-4404-819B-A8579094752D@yahoo.com> Kind of funny when you think about it... For these shirts and the Cobra that inspired their making, there are now more reproductions than originals! Thanks again Chuck, Steve and Kas, Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer Albuquerque NM > On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been much more complicated. > > The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look forward to racing with you all soon. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> ?Hello all, >> >> I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. >> >> If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll ship once I receive payment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ?Hi Amici, >>> >>> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hello all, >>>> >>>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send again. >>>> >>>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? >>>> >>>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order and get them going. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth so far and I appreciate it! >>>>> >>>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. >>>>> >>>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! >>>>> >>>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. >>>>>> >>>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 reference. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck Gee >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the back: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT logo though with some friends of triumph wording): >>>>>> >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lunkercars at yahoo.com > > From chasgee22 at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 23:20:03 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 22:20:03 -0800 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <43165629-C9FA-4404-819B-A8579094752D@yahoo.com> References: <43165629-C9FA-4404-819B-A8579094752D@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0C0EFB19-64C1-45FF-8A96-0A6E0D060079@gmail.com> Indeed it is. Chuck > On Mar 5, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Greg Hilyer wrote: > > ?Kind of funny when you think about it... > For these shirts and the Cobra that inspired their making, there are now more reproductions than originals! > Thanks again Chuck, Steve and Kas, > Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer > Albuquerque NM > >> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been much more complicated. >> >> The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look forward to racing with you all soon. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ?Hello all, >>> >>> I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. >>> >>> If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll ship once I receive payment. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hi Amici, >>>> >>>> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send again. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? >>>>> >>>>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order and get them going. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth so far and I appreciate it! >>>>>> >>>>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. >>>>>> >>>>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! >>>>>> >>>>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 reference. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chuck Gee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the back: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT logo though with some friends of triumph wording): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lunkercars at yahoo.com >> >> > From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 7 09:44:42 2021 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted References: <372135488.241435.1615135482872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph | | | | | | | | | | | 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph | | | New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! c ya,Bob Lang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Sun Mar 7 10:03:15 2021 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:03:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted In-Reply-To: <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> References: <372135488.241435.1615135482872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1615136595.3w3th2ac8c44sws4@webmail.lumos.net> That was fun, thanks Bob.? After pulling an all-nighter to get Chris's car back on track, I still remember how gratifying it felt to see him do so well.? It was worth it all. Thanks, John ? On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC), Robert Lang via Fot wrote: ? Hi, ? Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: ? 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph ? ? ? 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph ? ? ? New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. ? In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. ? WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! ? c ya, Bob Lang ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Sun Mar 7 10:28:16 2021 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 12:28:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted In-Reply-To: <1615136595.3w3th2ac8c44sws4@webmail.lumos.net> References: <372135488.241435.1615135482872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> <1615136595.3w3th2ac8c44sws4@webmail.lumos.net> Message-ID: <32330E570BB347F3BCB77F3B25188198@VlackTK121647> There were many memories made by the event but the overnight rebuild of the TR5 which I believe included some frame straightening was the most memorable. JVV From: R. John Lye via Fot Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 12:03 PM To: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted That was fun, thanks Bob. After pulling an all-nighter to get Chris's car back on track, I still remember how gratifying it felt to see him do so well. It was worth it all. Thanks, John On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC), Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Hi, Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! c ya, Bob Lang _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 7 12:20:37 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 19:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Cylinder Head Studs References: <1634902746.307499.1615144837286.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1634902746.307499.1615144837286@mail.yahoo.com> Back in the day, when I was racing on a tight budget, I always picked out the best looking cylinder head studs I had, and used them in my race engines.? In 25 years of racing, I never bought any new studs.? I suspect that most of the racers on this list are using more modern, high tech studs today.? However, during the years that I was racing, I parted out a lot of cars/engines and kept all of the cylinder head studs. I have over 100 long ones and over 100 short ones?? There are 2 lengths of long studs and I have a mix of each.? There are 3 lengths of short ones, the longest being the one that the lifting bracket attaches to at the right rear (facing forward) corner of the head, next to the water outlet for the heater..? I got rid of all of those that I had to an FOT lister.? I have a mix of the shorter 2 sizes of the short studs. If anyone is interested in any of these studs, all I ask is that you pay for the shipping (heavy, so they will be expensive to ship long distances).? Let me know what sizes you want, and I will send them out. Any that are not claimed will go to my friend at the scrap metal yard.? Thanks. Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From curt.johnston at comcast.net Sun Mar 7 13:40:16 2021 From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 12:40:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted In-Reply-To: <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> References: <372135488.241435.1615135482872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1108651958.138779.1615149616867@connect.xfinity.com> Great foot Bob, and fun to see. I think we should set up a link to this video on the FOT page or the new Kastner Cup webpage: http://kastnercup2021.com/ Curt Johnston > On 03/07/2021 8:44 AM Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > > > Hi, > > Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: > > 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEOwCDwOSv4 > > > > 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph > > > > > New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. > > In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. > > WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! > > c ya, > Bob Lang > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/curt.johnston at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lots of new AE engine bearings for Spit/GT6/TR250/6/TR-3-4/Spit 1500 TR-3 steering wheel for adj column (new TRF) TR-3 horn head assembly new Multiple Payen and OEM gasket sets There is also Spitfire round-tail rear quarter sheetmetal Spitfire Mk3 rear center section Spitfire & GT6 floor sections Spitfire/GT-6 rocker panels-both sides TR-4-6 door skins TR3 seat frames(used) Ferrari TR brake caliper pistons Contact me off line so we don't clutter up the FOT list please. Russ Moore 63 Spitfire #49(among many others) -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave just donated this print to our new British Sports Car Hall of Fame facilities. Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > From alfetta95 at optonline.net Tue Mar 9 08:12:26 2021 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:12:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Townsend In-Reply-To: <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091@cs.com> References: <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091@cs.com> Message-ID: <47FB3A97-8F21-4CD5-A32E-71FA953AC6A9@optonline.net> Beautiful picture! I second Welcome Dave! Todd > On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?FOT, > > Dave Townsend is a serial Triumph owner and a racer in the past. But he is also an automotive artist. Dave just donated this print to our new British Sports Car Hall of Fame facilities. Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. > > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net > > From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 08:20:55 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 09:20:55 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Townsend In-Reply-To: <47FB3A97-8F21-4CD5-A32E-71FA953AC6A9@optonline.net> References: <47FB3A97-8F21-4CD5-A32E-71FA953AC6A9@optonline.net> Message-ID: Here?s Dave! Self Introduction to follow. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. >> >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From terrysopher at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 08:35:58 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:35:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Townsend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Love Dave?s work - I have the TR250 print he did - matches my concours TR250 perfectly! > On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:22, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Here?s Dave! Self Introduction to follow. > > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On Mar 9, 2021, at 9:14 AM, Alfetta95 via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Beautiful picture! >> >> I second >> >> Welcome Dave! >> Todd >> >> >> >>>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?FOT, >>> >>> Dave Townsend is a serial Triumph owner and a racer in the past. But he is also an automotive artist. Dave just donated this print to our new British Sports Car Hall of Fame facilities. Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 09:25:42 2021 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:25:42 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Townsend In-Reply-To: <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091@cs.com> References: <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091.ref@cs.com> <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091@cs.com> Message-ID: I wholeheartedly second!!! Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 9:06 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > FOT, > > Dave Townsend is a serial Triumph owner and a racer in the past. But he is > also an automotive artist. Dave just donated this print to our new British > Sports Car Hall of Fame facilities. Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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John Lye via Fot Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 12:03 PM To: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted ? That was fun, thanks Bob.? After pulling an all-nighter to get Chris's car back on track, I still remember how gratifying it felt to see him do so well.? It was worth it all. Thanks, John ? On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC), Robert Lang via Fot wrote: ? Hi, ? Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: ? 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph ? ? ? 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph ? ? ? New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. ? In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. ? WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! ? c ya, Bob Lang ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dos_gusanos at msn.com Tue Mar 9 13:48:00 2021 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 20:48:00 +0000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from Outlook ________________________________ From: Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To: Cliff Hansen Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen > wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours. Thanks, Cliff Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Tue Mar 9 13:52:38 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 15:52:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> I re-use the ARP head studs. Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from Outlook From: Triumphs > on behalf of Greg Lemon > Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To: Cliff Hansen > Cc: list Triumph > Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen > wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours. Thanks, Cliff Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So I would like to ask this very knowledgeable and passionate group, what do you thinks it?s value is and is their any interest in acquiring it. Thanks in advance for your consideration. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 [cid:image003.jpg at 01D713E3.136159D0] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 97118B40888C4F2FBCC9D1ABB94E9DED.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 108381 bytes Desc: 97118B40888C4F2FBCC9D1ABB94E9DED.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: EXECUTIVE SUMMARY 1969 TRIUMPH TR6.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 14187 bytes Desc: EXECUTIVE SUMMARY 1969 TRIUMPH TR6.docx URL: From vfracing at aol.com Tue Mar 9 16:49:23 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 18:49:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> Message-ID: <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. And yes, I re use the ARP studs. Phil Gott ?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?I re-use the ARP head studs. Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: > > In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ > > Henry Morrison > > Sent from Outlook > > From: Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon > Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM > To: Cliff Hansen > Cc: list Triumph > Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. > > Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. > > Greg Lemon, TR250 > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: > I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours. > > Thanks, > > Cliff > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Tue Mar 9 19:37:55 2021 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 12:37:55 +1000 Subject: [Fot] TR6 cylinder head question Message-ID: im trying to confirm the casting and part numbers for the cylinder head on the US market TR6 & GT6 (Mk2 & 3) engines my records, going back decades, mostly covers the UK cars and i'm aware the US was often different. the numbers i'm chasing are clearly marked on the intake/exh port side. The part number is stamped into the head on machined flat surface near #1 intake port , and the cast number (raised) is cast in, roughly above #3 intake port. Both can be seen with the rocker cover in place if anyone happens to have a head off an engine and knowns its never been machined, then a thickness measurement would really help For example, commencing around 1974 for the 2500 engine, the cast numbers typically changes to 313247 for "low compression" and 313248 for 'high compression" They are differing thickness. . Both have a round boss near #5 cylinder location that was drilled and threaded for an EGR valve if needed. As such, there are many different part numbers for bare and completed heads. I'll post up my data table FYI, once i get this sorted many thanks Terry Australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Mar 10 06:36:58 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 13:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <485528335.937763.1615383418786@mail.yahoo.com> It isn't necessarily that the stock studs will break, they are more prone to stretching.The main advantage of the ARP studs is their ability to retain torque.Glen -----Original Message----- From: Henry A. Morrison via Fot To: FOT Triumph Sent: Tue, Mar 9, 2021 3:48 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? #yiv4391055996 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.? Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from Outlook From: Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To: Cliff Hansen Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs??I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.?Thanks,?Cliff??Sent from Mail for Windows 10?** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Wed Mar 10 13:10:47 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 15:10:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 block for free References: <39DEDB99-6509-4B3A-A4EF-A3AE6EFEF16E@me.com> Message-ID: Number CC78837UE Later block with recessed grooves for head gasket, includes main bearing caps. sleeved and bored 30 over. Light cylinder wall wear and needs to be bored again before using. I found a different block to work with. Just north of Philadelphia, or will deliver to Jefferson 500 in May. If no interest, it?s off to the scrapper. Scott Janzen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 10 15:44:24 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> Message-ID: <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Phil.? I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.? 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with Gaskacinch)..? Worked then, sounds like it still works now.? Some things never change. Jack On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. ?And yes, I re use the ARP studs.?Phil Gott?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: ? I re-use the ARP head studs. ?Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.? Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from?Outlook From:?Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent:?Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To:?Cliff Hansen Cc:?list Triumph Subject:?Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs??I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.?Thanks,?Cliff??Sent from?Mail?for Windows 10?**?triumphs at autox.team.net?** Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs??http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://autox.team.net/archive?http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Mar 10 16:14:12 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 23:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw in easily.The current replacements have all of the holes same size. Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Jack Wheeler via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: FOT Triumph Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? Hi Phil.? I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.? 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with Gaskacinch)..? Worked then, sounds like it still works now.? Some things never change. Jack On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. ?And yes, I re use the ARP studs.?Phil Gott?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: ? I re-use the ARP head studs. ?Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.? Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from?Outlook From:?Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent:?Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To:?Cliff Hansen Cc:?list Triumph Subject:?Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs??I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.?Thanks,?Cliff??Sent from?Mail?for Windows 10?**?triumphs at autox.team.net?** Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs??http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://autox.team.net/archive?http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 16:29:58 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 17:29:58 -0600 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Back in 2002 at Mid Ohio they had a swap meet in the car show area. I bought a box of a hundred new head studs and a sleeve of NOS shim steel head gaskets from a guy there. Ithink I paid $100 for the whole lot. I still have some gaskets. I sold some stud sets on eBay years and years ago to recoup the cost but I still have a bunch. I also started using ARP because of the hex key recess.. Bob Kramer On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 5:22 PM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just > slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay > the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw > in easily. > The current replacements have all of the holes same size. > Glen Efinger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Wheeler via Fot > To: Phil Gott > Cc: FOT Triumph > Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > Hi Phil. I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim > head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago. 2 studs, head > gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared > with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with > Gaskacinch).. Worked then, sounds like it still works now. Some things > never change. > > Jack > > On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that > the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it > far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre > treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head > itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit > on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two > studs in place. And yes, I re use the ARP studs. > Phil Gott > ?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot > wrote: > > ? > > I re-use the ARP head studs. Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs > in my race engine. > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot > wrote: > > In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a > head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, > never had a bad coil............ > > Henry Morrison > > Sent from Outlook > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Triumphs on behalf of Greg > Lemon > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM > *To:* Cliff Hansen > *Cc:* list Triumph > *Subject:* Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and > never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, > MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. > > Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if > stretched it will bind. > > Greg Lemon, TR250 > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen > wrote: > > I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the > machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the > head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even > if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on > this, but am interested in yours. > > Thanks, > > Cliff > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 16:38:53 2021 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:38:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Now matter how the head gasket is oriented on the block, I also orient the head gasket on the head to make sure the gasket does not intrude into the combustion chamber, especially where the intake valve pocket is relieved. Sometimes it doesn't exactly match the arc on the cylinder liner. John Styduhar On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:21 PM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just > slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay > the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw > in easily. > The current replacements have all of the holes same size. > Glen Efinger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Wheeler via Fot > To: Phil Gott > Cc: FOT Triumph > Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > Hi Phil. I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim > head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago. 2 studs, head > gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared > with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with > Gaskacinch).. Worked then, sounds like it still works now. Some things > never change. > > Jack > > On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that > the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it > far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre > treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head > itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit > on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two > studs in place. And yes, I re use the ARP studs. > Phil Gott > ?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot > wrote: > > ? > > I re-use the ARP head studs. Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs > in my race engine. > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot > wrote: > > In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a > head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, > never had a bad coil............ > > Henry Morrison > > Sent from Outlook > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Triumphs on behalf of Greg > Lemon > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM > *To:* Cliff Hansen > *Cc:* list Triumph > *Subject:* Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and > never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, > MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. > > Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if > stretched it will bind. > > Greg Lemon, TR250 > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen > wrote: > > I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the > machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the > head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even > if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on > this, but am interested in yours. > > Thanks, > > Cliff > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Mar 10 16:47:54 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 23:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <594914399.7949.1615420074632@mail.yahoo.com> That's a good point and quite true, especially w/the new replacement gaskets, the holes are all big and the gasket can shuffle around, and as you also mentioned, the inlet valve relief area is especially critical.Glen -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar via Fot To: fubog1 Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 6:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? Now matter how the head gasket is oriented on the block, I also orient the head gasket on the head to make sure the gasket does not intrude into the combustion chamber, especially where the intake valve pocket is relieved.? Sometimes it doesn't exactly match the arc on the cylinder liner.John Styduhar? On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:21 PM fubog1 via Fot wrote: The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw in easily.The current replacements have all of the holes same size. Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Jack Wheeler via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: FOT Triumph Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? Hi Phil.? I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.? 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with Gaskacinch)..? Worked then, sounds like it still works now.? Some things never change. Jack On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place.? And yes, I re use the ARP studs.?Phil Gott?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: ? I re-use the ARP head studs.? Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.? Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from?Outlook From:?Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent:?Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To:?Cliff Hansen Cc:?list Triumph Subject:?Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs??I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.?Thanks,?Cliff??Sent from?Mail?for Windows 10?**?triumphs at autox.team.net?** Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs??http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://autox.team.net/archive?http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wife and Best friend for over 50 years.. She was a strong supporter of the Triumph Marque. Great Navigator in our early years. Membership Chairperson for Triumph Register of America for many years. Mid Ohio and Kas 2002..... Search "Susie Wood Householder Facebook" for a tribute to her -----------------------------------------From: "Styduhar, Daniel Lee" To: "Tom Householder" Cc: Sent: Thursday March 11 2021 10:05:50PM Subject: Dan and Livie want to extent to you our sincerest sympatyhies Tom, I am so saddened to hear of Suzie's passing. My wife and I wish to extend to you our sincerest condolences. I attended only a few of the TRA National meets but the ones we did attend, my wife and I enjoyed being in the company of the Register members and of course you and Suzie and the famous auctions. I was going through some pictures to upload to the FOT website and came across the attached picture. 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Wife and Best friend for over 50 years.. She was a strong supporter of the Triumph Marque. Great Navigator in our early years. Membership Chairperson for Triumph Register of America for many years. > > Mid Ohio and Kas 2002..... > > Search "Susie Wood Householder Facebook" for a tribute to her > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Styduhar, Daniel Lee" > To: "Tom Householder" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday March 11 2021 10:05:50PM > Subject: Dan and Livie want to extent to you our sincerest sympatyhies > > Tom, > > I am so saddened to hear of Suzie's passing. My wife and I wish to extend > to you our sincerest condolences. I attended only a few of the TRA > National meets but the ones we did attend, my wife and I enjoyed being > in the company of the Register members and of course you and Suzie and > the famous auctions. 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Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:33 PM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: > > ?Nice article, Phil! > Thanks, Mike. > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > >>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:09 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> From the SCCA NER newsletter >> >> https://www.pittalk.org/racing-life/have-fun-with-cars-and-family/ >> >> mike h >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Tue Mar 16 08:34:50 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 09:34:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] The Texas Endurance TR6 lives, kinda Message-ID: <1034636E-75C2-45D4-A62E-4AAF4D2F3C35@icloud.com> Folks, Quick note from Texas, full report later this week. We resurrected the Texas Endurance TR6 car for a run with Champcar at Harris Hill this past weekend. Lots of fun, great track, and great people. Car was running well for 6+ hours Saturday until the radiator let go and we broke a rocker arm. Not sure the progression of failure yet as there was one of the 4 newbies in the car at the time. He simply reported a miss and pulled into the pits. Lots of fun with this group. The reason for my email. I think you would really enjoy the coverage of the race that Champcar provides with commentary. They obviously loved to feature our car and team, sometimes as comic relief. All in fun. Enjoy it, I was rolling on the floor at some of their comments. https://youtu.be/5zRTBMbLylw Greg Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 06:12:44 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 08:12:44 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Jag block, anyone? References: <945AE2FE-9CBC-478B-9104-20C080F5DB05.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <945AE2FE-9CBC-478B-9104-20C080F5DB05@aol.com> ?Asking for a friend - Scott copied on this message. Anyone know where a friend can get an early XK Jag block? Sorry if this is not strictly TR related, but they were parts of the same company for a while, and I suspect some of us may own both... Thanks, Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 06:15:09 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 08:15:09 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves References: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC@aol.com> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From jaboruch at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 09:10:25 2021 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC@aol.com> References: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC.ref@aol.com> <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC@aol.com> Message-ID: <730842567.2042565.1615993825300@mail.yahoo.com> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 09:19:03 2021 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <730842567.2042565.1615993825300@mail.yahoo.com> References: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC.ref@aol.com> <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC@aol.com> <730842567.2042565.1615993825300@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> Phil,I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. Jake On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 10:02:51 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:02:51 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> References: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> Thanks, Erik and Joe; Good to know. I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: > > ? > Phil, > I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. > > Jake > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > > Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > > Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? > Phil Gott > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garygret at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 17 10:33:22 2021 From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> References: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> Message-ID: <256235614.2079096.1615998802101@mail.yahoo.com> That was my only experience with Grose jets too, even with a fuel pressure regulator set low. Seemed like a decent idea conceptually but didn't work well in practice. Possibly their comparatively large seating area makes the float pressure inadequate to hold off the fuel pressure?Gary On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:03:22 AM CDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Thanks, Erik and Joe;Good to know.I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again!Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: ? Phil,I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. Jake On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rek46 at aol.com Wed Mar 17 10:37:52 2021 From: rek46 at aol.com (rek46) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> References: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> Message-ID: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick?In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:? Thanks, Erik and Joe;Good to know.I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again!Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: ?Phil,I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem.?Jake?On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote:???Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB?On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote:??Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up?Phil Gott?Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net?http://www.fot-racing.com?Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com?????_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 12:22:47 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:22:47 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> References: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yup. Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. Thanks., Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: > > ? > NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick > > In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: > > Thanks, Erik and Joe; > Good to know. > I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: > > > Phil, > I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. > > Jake > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > > > Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > > Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? > Phil Gott > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Mar 17 13:16:39 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:16:39 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: References: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back.? Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). - Tony Drews On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > Yup. > Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot > points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first > tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the > fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 > psi and fore/aft floats works well. > Thanks., > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old >> style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a >> tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you >> having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?? You prob have >> each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both >> floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick >> In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> fot at autox.team.net writes: >> >> Thanks, Erik and Joe; >> Good to know. >> I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use >> those again! >> Phil >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen >> wrote: >> >> Phil, >> I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race >> cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, >> but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. >> Jake >> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via >> Fot wrote: >> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the >> spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I >> suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had >> issues. JoeB >> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via >> Fot wrote: >> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have >> the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the >> float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? >> Phil Gott >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 13:22:09 2021 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: References: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2012695568.1543417.1616008929455@mail.yahoo.com> Tony,Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot.? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back.? Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). - Tony Drews On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Yup. Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. Thanks., Phil? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: ? NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick ? In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: ? Thanks, Erik and Joe; Good to know. I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: ? Phil, I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. ? Jake ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: ? ? ? Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? ? Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott ? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net ? http://www.fot-racing.com ? 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URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 15:54:48 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 17:54:48 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <2012695568.1543417.1616008929455@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2012695568.1543417.1616008929455@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3ED39F88-0DDB-4750-93D0-A5EC829DE307@aol.com> Thanks, everyone! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: > > ? > Tony, > Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot. > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > > > With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. > > Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). > > - Tony Drews > > On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > Yup. > Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. > Thanks., > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick >> >> In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: >> >> Thanks, Erik and Joe; >> Good to know. >> I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! >> Phil >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: >> >> >> Phil, >> I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. >> >> Jake >> >> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: >> >> >> >> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB >> >> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? >> Phil Gott >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stutztr4 at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 13:36:54 2021 From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 15:36:54 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <3ED39F88-0DDB-4750-93D0-A5EC829DE307@aol.com> References: <2012695568.1543417.1616008929455@mail.yahoo.com> <3ED39F88-0DDB-4750-93D0-A5EC829DE307@aol.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately I don't remember which, but Joe Curto specifies solid needles for certain SUs and spring loaded for others. Bruce Stutzman On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:58 PM Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > Thanks, everyone! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot > wrote: > > ? > Tony, > Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny > compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot. > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the > front and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness > after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. > > Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel > pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than > we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). > > - Tony Drews > On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > Yup. > Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot > points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to > overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, > which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft > floats works well. > Thanks., > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot > wrote: > > ? > NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style > floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your > float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. > probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward > center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. > or back)....rick > > In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, > fot at autox.team.net writes: > > > Thanks, Erik and Joe; > Good to know. > I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those > again! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen > wrote: > > > Phil, > I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't > had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race > car, I still haven't had a problem. > > Jake > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot > wrote: > > > > Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded > ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and > others had said that they had issues. JoeB > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot > wrote: > > > Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring > loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one > better, worse, or require different set up? > Phil Gott > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutztr4 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Thu Mar 18 17:27:43 2021 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 19:27:43 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1616110063.dcsad0liwwg08gw8@webmail.lumos.net> I have used Total Seal piston rings many times, and that is my "go to" piston ring. John ? On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:25:43 -0700, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: ? Hello Amici, ? A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. ? He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. ? Can any of you share your ring choices? ? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. ? I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? ? Your thoughts are appreciated! Brad Eells Chino CA #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 17:31:14 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:31:14 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2A60C39F-CFBA-4F0B-9CB0-911B7BDC8B6C@gmail.com> Just go with what JE recommends. Thanks, Chuck > On Mar 18, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ? > Hello Amici, > > A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. > > He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. > > Can any of you share your ring choices? > > I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. > > I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? > > Your thoughts are appreciated! > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Mar 18 18:04:26 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 19:04:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: <2A60C39F-CFBA-4F0B-9CB0-911B7BDC8B6C@gmail.com> References: <2A60C39F-CFBA-4F0B-9CB0-911B7BDC8B6C@gmail.com> Message-ID: I agree with Chuck on this. Someone should communicate with JE about how you are building the motor and how you will run the car. Their engineering/technical department will help with ring recommendations. There knowledge and experience should be most helpful. We do this Wiseco every time we work on a piston design with them. It always turns out well. We defer to them on wrist pin recommendations also. We have found that they have learned a lot about this stuff over the years Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Just go with what JE recommends. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Hello Amici, >> >> A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. >> >> He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. >> >> Can any of you share your ring choices? >> >> I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. >> >> I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? >> >> Your thoughts are appreciated! >> Brad Eells >> Chino CA >> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 18:24:42 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:24:42 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?I agree with Chuck on this.? That?s what I like to hear! Paul is my new best friend. Thanks, Chuck > On Mar 18, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > I agree with Chuck on this. From vfracing at aol.com Thu Mar 18 19:38:52 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 21:38:52 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7A23C14F-B9AF-41CF-AE65-DB6C4FB64403@aol.com> Yes. I don?t really understand why the little spring is used, which is why I asked. Joe told me the same thing but not why.... Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Bruce Stutzman wrote: > > ? > Unfortunately I don't remember which, but Joe Curto specifies solid needles for certain SUs and spring loaded for others. > Bruce Stutzman > >> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:58 PM Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >> Thanks, everyone! >> Phil >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: >>>> >>> ? >>> Tony, >>> Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot. >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. >>> >>> Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). >>> >>> - Tony Drews >>> >>> On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>> >>> Yup. >>> Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. >>> Thanks., >>> Phil >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: >>>> >>>> Thanks, Erik and Joe; >>>> Good to know. >>>> I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Phil, >>>> I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. >>>> >>>> Jake >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? >>>> Phil Gott >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutztr4 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 19:44:31 2021 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 01:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <650798012.2788999.1616118271408@mail.yahoo.com> I would not recommend rings patterned from the factory GT6 pistons.? Ring technology has changed significantly since the GT6 was developed.? As others suggested talk to JE or Total Seal.? I have heard mixed results with the gapless rings, so you may want to stay away from those.? JoeB On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 07:26:46 PM EDT, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: Hello Amici, A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. Can any of you share your ring choices? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? Your thoughts are appreciated! Brad EellsChino CA#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR41965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Thu Mar 18 20:39:05 2021 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 12:39:05 +1000 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: if JE are making pistons, surely they will supply rings??? In general, ring & piston design has improved a lot in recent decades in most cases, you will head for a nitrided steel top ring, a steel centre ring (possibly filled with something) and a 3-piece segmented oil ring in many cases, they can now make a perfectly satisfactory top and second ring at or under 1mm in thickness. Generally, the thinner it is, the lower the friction but really thin rings require super careful honing and bed-in best practise is to not have any slots behind the oil ring, but rather a ring of small holes some piston makers have all sorts of clever micro 'tricks" like anti-flutter grooves they machine in the lands between the rings Whomever supplies the rings will specify the final hone finish required best practise is to use double "spiro-locks" to retain the gudgeon pin Terry Australia On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:26 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > Hello Amici, > > A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston > ring selection. > > He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look > at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. > > Can any of you share your ring choices? > > I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. > > I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from > the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? > > Your thoughts are appreciated! > *Brad Eells* > *Chino CA* > *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* > *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* > *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 20:48:12 2021 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 02:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <306168871.1905220.1616122092367@mail.yahoo.com> I always ran Total Seal rings in my Pinto and Celica race engines, never had a failure? I also used special made teflon buttons to center the wrist pins, again, never an issue from them - clips of any kind can and do fail (had 1 failure) like so many things we try/do with our engines we all find things that work for us - usually they work for others but, sometimes not remember the key, "any significantly advanced technology is totally indistinguishable from magic" Cheers all,Ralph On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 09:36:45 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: if JE are making pistons, surely they will supply rings??? In general, ring & piston design has improved a lot in recent decades in most cases, you will head for a nitrided steel top ring, a steel centre ring (possibly filled with something) and a 3-piece segmented oil ring in many cases, they can now make a perfectly satisfactory top and second ring at or under 1mm in thickness. Generally, the thinner it is, the lower the friction but really thin rings require super careful honing and bed-in best practise is to not have any slots behind the oil ring, but rather?a ring of small holes? some piston makers have all sorts of clever micro 'tricks" like anti-flutter grooves they machine in the lands between the rings Whomever supplies the rings will specify the final hone finish required best practise is to use double "spiro-locks" to retain the gudgeon pin TerryAustralia On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:26 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: Hello Amici, A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. Can any of you share your ring choices? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? Your thoughts are appreciated! Brad EellsChino CA#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR41965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Fri Mar 19 02:47:46 2021 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:47:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <7A23C14F-B9AF-41CF-AE65-DB6C4FB64403@aol.com> References: <7A23C14F-B9AF-41CF-AE65-DB6C4FB64403@aol.com> Message-ID: <1272092035.27266153.1616143666228.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Maybe the spring is there to even out the pressure on the needle/valve seat surface when the fuel is agitating on the float . In doing so the plastic end on the needle doesn't wear out but higher fuel pressure can easily lift the needle off the seat. I believe this is useful for a road car but not for a race car. Marcel. Van: "fot" Aan: "Bruce Stutzman" Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 02:38:52 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Float needle valves Yes. I don?t really understand why the little spring is used, which is why I asked. Joe told me the same thing but not why.... Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Bruce Stutzman wrote: BQ_BEGIN Unfortunately I don't remember which, but Joe Curto specifies solid needles for certain SUs and spring loaded for others. Bruce Stutzman On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:58 PM Phil Gott via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: BQ_BEGIN Thanks, everyone! Phil Sent from my iPhone BQ_BEGIN On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: BQ_END BQ_BEGIN Tony, Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot. On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). - Tony Drews On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: BQ_BEGIN BQ_END Yup. Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. Thanks., Phil Sent from my iPhone BQ_BEGIN On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | ] wrote: BQ_END BQ_BEGIN NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] writes: BQ_BEGIN Thanks, Erik and Joe; Good to know. I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! Phil Sent from my iPhone BQ_BEGIN On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen [ mailto:kekjacobsen at yahoo.com | ] wrote: BQ_END BQ_BEGIN Phil, I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. Jake On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | ] wrote: Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | ] wrote: Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? 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URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Fri Mar 19 02:59:13 2021 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:59:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: <306168871.1905220.1616122092367@mail.yahoo.com> References: <306168871.1905220.1616122092367@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50927886.27298270.1616144353564.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> JE Pistons are owning Pro Seal piston rings and gaskets, and maybe one can buy JE Pistons fitted with this brand of rings. On the Pro Seal website, you can find information about the ring services that JE Pistons is offering. PS :Total Seal is a misleading name : most of their rings are NOT gapless. Marcel. Van: "fot" Aan: "Brad Eells" , "Enquiries Road, Track" Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 03:48:12 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings I always ran Total Seal rings in my Pinto and Celica race engines, never had a failure I also used special made teflon buttons to center the wrist pins, again, never an issue from them - clips of any kind can and do fail (had 1 failure) like so many things we try/do with our engines we all find things that work for us - usually they work for others but, sometimes not remember the key, "any significantly advanced technology is totally indistinguishable from magic" Cheers all, Ralph On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 09:36:45 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: if JE are making pistons, surely they will supply rings??? In general, ring & piston design has improved a lot in recent decades in most cases, you will head for a nitrided steel top ring, a steel centre ring (possibly filled with something) and a 3-piece segmented oil ring in many cases, they can now make a perfectly satisfactory top and second ring at or under 1mm in thickness. Generally, the thinner it is, the lower the friction but really thin rings require super careful honing and bed-in best practise is to not have any slots behind the oil ring, but rather a ring of small holes some piston makers have all sorts of clever micro 'tricks" like anti-flutter grooves they machine in the lands between the rings Whomever supplies the rings will specify the final hone finish required best practise is to use double "spiro-locks" to retain the gudgeon pin Terry Australia On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:26 AM Brad Eells via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: Hello Amici, A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. Can any of you share your ring choices? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? Your thoughts are appreciated! Brad Eells Chino CA #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage ] : [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au ] _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com ] _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Mar 19 04:24:40 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <1272092035.27266153.1616143666228.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <7A23C14F-B9AF-41CF-AE65-DB6C4FB64403@aol.com> <1272092035.27266153.1616143666228.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <821531201.1935506.1616149480170@mail.yahoo.com> Marcel;Yes, that could be. ?I wonder of the viton valve seat needs this, as there are some viton tipped needles out there with no spring in them. ? Just curious at this point. Seems like nothing to worry about for a race car... Thanks again,Phil -----Original Message----- From: van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 19, 2021 4:50 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Float needle valves Maybe? the spring is there to even out the pressure on the needle/valve seat surface when the fuel is agitating on the float . In doing so the plastic end on the needle doesn't wear out but higher fuel pressure can easily lift the needle off the seat. I believe this is useful for a road car but not for a race car.Marcel. Van: "fot" Aan: "Bruce Stutzman" Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 02:38:52 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Float needle valves Yes. I don?t really understand why the little spring is used, which is why I asked. Joe told me the same thing but not why....Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Bruce Stutzman wrote: Unfortunately?I don't remember which, but Joe Curto specifies solid needles for certain SUs and spring loaded for others.Bruce Stutzman On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:58 PM Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Thanks, everyone!Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: Tony,Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot.? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back.? Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). - Tony Drews On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Yup. Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. Thanks., Phil? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick ? In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: ? Thanks, Erik and Joe; Good to know. I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: ? Phil, I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. ? Jake ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: ? ? ? Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? ? Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott ? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net ? http://www.fot-racing.com ? 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URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Mar 19 04:40:59 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: <50927886.27298270.1616144353564.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <306168871.1905220.1616122092367@mail.yahoo.com> <50927886.27298270.1616144353564.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <1018195328.1936228.1616150459260@mail.yahoo.com> Piston ring flutter is a hard to detect phenomenon that will allow a lot of pressure loss into the crankcase. Rings that are too thin will tend to flutter due to less spring pressure. ?The higher the piston speeds as in the wet sleeve TR engine, the more likely flutter is to occur. ? I'm not sure about the Spitfire engine (too lazy to do the math before coffee) but if you choose thin rings such as those used in the Total Seal set up, the more likely you are to get flutter. The Total Seal solution uses two half-height rings with the gap oriented 180 degrees from each other. ?IMHO this is asking for flutter. Having said that, when they work they work well. We used them successfully in a 948 Sprite and a 1.8 liter Integra. Phil Gott -----Original Message----- From: van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot To: ralph hansen ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 19, 2021 5:05 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings JE Pistons are owning Pro Seal piston rings and gaskets, and maybe one can buy JE Pistons fitted with this brand of rings. On the Pro Seal website, you can find information about the ring services that JE Pistons is offering. PS :Total Seal is a misleading name : most of their rings are NOT gapless.Marcel. Van: "fot" Aan: "Brad Eells" , "Enquiries Road, Track" Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 03:48:12 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings I always ran Total Seal rings in my Pinto and Celica race engines, never had a failure? I also used special made teflon buttons to center the wrist pins, again, never an issue from them - clips of any kind can and do fail (had 1 failure) like so many things we try/do with our engines we all find things that work for us - usually they work for others but, sometimes not remember the key, "any significantly advanced technology is totally indistinguishable from magic" Cheers all,Ralph On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 09:36:45 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: if JE are making pistons, surely they will supply rings??? In general, ring & piston design has improved a lot in recent decades in most cases, you will head for a nitrided steel top ring, a steel centre ring (possibly filled with something) and a 3-piece segmented oil ring in many cases, they can now make a perfectly satisfactory top and second ring at or under 1mm in thickness. Generally, the thinner it is, the lower the friction but really thin rings require super careful honing and bed-in best practise is to not have any slots behind the oil ring, but rather?a ring of small holes? some piston makers have all sorts of clever micro 'tricks" like anti-flutter grooves they machine in the lands between the rings Whomever supplies the rings will specify the final hone finish required best practise is to use double "spiro-locks" to retain the gudgeon pin TerryAustralia On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:26 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: Hello Amici, A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. Can any of you share your ring choices? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? Your thoughts are appreciated! 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URL: From lunkercars at yahoo.com Fri Mar 19 16:40:10 2021 From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:40:10 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine In-Reply-To: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> References: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <644494D3-BBA1-492F-BB54-46949D1B1C2E@yahoo.com> Hey Tim, Happy belated 3/17! There?s a guy named Kas (can?t remember the last name) that did some dyno tuning awhile back - he even wrote a book or two about it?. But in all seriousness, I?ve done mine by the (Comp Prep Manual) book. Base and total is easy but it takes a bunch of fiddling to get the ?Kas curve?. Has worked great but I?ll admit that I?ve never gone beyond that. Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer Albuquerque NM > On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:27 PM, timmmurphh--- via Fot wrote: > > What advance curve are folks using in their race engines? I have 87mm pistons, a Kastner G3 cam and about a 12:1 compression ratio. I am using about 19 degrees advance at idle (no centrifugal advance) and 30 degrees advance at 3000 RPM. I don?t know what I have at higher RPM?s because I never looked. I?m currently doing an engine rebuild so I will have to look what I?ve got at the higher RPM?s when I get the engine running. I?m curious as to what others are using and if anyone has done any testing on a dyno with different advance curves. > > Thanks in advance for your input. > > Tim Murphy > #317 BRG TR4 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lunkercars at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Mar 19 16:45:40 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 18:45:40 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine In-Reply-To: <644494D3-BBA1-492F-BB54-46949D1B1C2E@yahoo.com> References: <644494D3-BBA1-492F-BB54-46949D1B1C2E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5CF86C98-262E-425F-9B70-5136226CD4DD@aol.com> The Advance curve is all done at about 3000 rpm. 30 degrees total advance is about right. Will depend on your particular engine, but might be best to back off 2-4 degrees. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2021, at 6:41 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot wrote: > > ? > Hey Tim, > Happy belated 3/17! > There?s a guy named Kas (can?t remember the last name) that did some dyno tuning awhile back - he even wrote a book or two about it?. > But in all seriousness, I?ve done mine by the (Comp Prep Manual) book. Base and total is easy but it takes a bunch of fiddling to get the ?Kas curve?. Has worked great but I?ll admit that I?ve never gone beyond that. > Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer > Albuquerque NM > >> On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:27 PM, timmmurphh--- via Fot wrote: >> >> What advance curve are folks using in their race engines? I have 87mm pistons, a Kastner G3 cam and about a 12:1 compression ratio. I am using about 19 degrees advance at idle (no centrifugal advance) and 30 degrees advance at 3000 RPM. I don?t know what I have at higher RPM?s because I never looked. I?m currently doing an engine rebuild so I will have to look what I?ve got at the higher RPM?s when I get the engine running. I?m curious as to what others are using and if anyone has done any testing on a dyno with different advance curves. >> >> Thanks in advance for your input. >> >> Tim Murphy >> #317 BRG TR4 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lunkercars at yahoo.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Fri Mar 19 16:53:55 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:53:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine In-Reply-To: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> References: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a1bf8a9-c9da-f0d8-6f8d-38f146cc9112@tonydrews.com> When I had crank fire ignition I did test it on the dyno and found that a slight retard as RPM's went up helped (at least that's how I remember it - up to 34 / 35 at 3000 rpm but down to 32 at 6000).? But with my more vintage points system, the advance is "all in" at 3000 rpm.? I just set to 30 degrees or 32 degrees or if I'm feeling particularly lucky / brave / stupid 34 degrees at max.? Whatever it ends up at low rpm is where it ends up.? When racing I'm never under 3000 RPM anyway. Regards, Tony On 3/19/2021 5:27 PM, timmmurphh--- via Fot wrote: > > What advance curve are folks using in their race engines? I have 87mm > pistons, a Kastner G3 cam and about a 12:1 compression ratio. I am > using about 19 degrees advance at idle (no centrifugal advance) and 30 > degrees advance at 3000 RPM.? I don?t know what I have at higher RPM?s > because I never looked. I?m currently doing an engine rebuild so I > will have to look what I?ve got at the higher RPM?s when I get the > engine running. I?m curious as to what others are using and if anyone > has done any testing on a dyno with different advance curves. > > Thanks in advance for your input. > > Tim Murphy > > #317 BRG TR4 > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Sat Mar 20 04:07:52 2021 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 11:07:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine In-Reply-To: <4a1bf8a9-c9da-f0d8-6f8d-38f146cc9112@tonydrews.com> References: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> <4a1bf8a9-c9da-f0d8-6f8d-38f146cc9112@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <1740119188.30733160.1616234872404.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Without the possibility of computer ignition mapping, the most important thing is the maximum total advance. This can start from 3000rpm or higher, depending on the distributor springs. 2 degrees is already making a significant difference for horsepower. On a dyno one can find at what advance the engine is making the best power, but it is all important to find out if the power is not dropping after 20 or 30 seconds (detonation). And the the circumstances on a race week-end can be different : if one is arriving at 30? during a dyno session, it is possible that only 28? is safe on a particular day. Total maximum advance can differ considerably (compression ratio,...). I believe that a fresh engine tends to pre-ignition more easily because of glowing spots : protruding headgasket(wich should be avoided of course), sharp machining edges...In an older engine the surfaces of the combustion chambers will be smoother Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 23:53:55 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine When I had crank fire ignition I did test it on the dyno and found that a slight retard as RPM's went up helped (at least that's how I remember it - up to 34 / 35 at 3000 rpm but down to 32 at 6000). But with my more vintage points system, the advance is "all in" at 3000 rpm. I just set to 30 degrees or 32 degrees or if I'm feeling particularly lucky / brave / stupid 34 degrees at max. Whatever it ends up at low rpm is where it ends up. When racing I'm never under 3000 RPM anyway. Regards, Tony On 3/19/2021 5:27 PM, timmmurphh--- via Fot wrote: What advance curve are folks using in their race engines? I have 87mm pistons, a Kastner G3 cam and about a 12:1 compression ratio. I am using about 19 degrees advance at idle (no centrifugal advance) and 30 degrees advance at 3000 RPM. I don?t know what I have at higher RPM?s because I never looked. I?m currently doing an engine rebuild so I will have to look what I?ve got at the higher RPM?s when I get the engine running. I?m curious as to what others are using and if anyone has done any testing on a dyno with different advance curves. Thanks in advance for your input. 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Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053 704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f) mhc-law.com | jhasty at mhc-law.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by a law firm on a legal matter. It may contain information that is confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message, any part of it, or any attachments. If you have received this message in error, please delete this message and any attachments from your system without reading the content and notify the sender immediately of the inadvertent transmission. There is no intent on the part of the sender to waive any privilege, including the attorney-client privilege, that may attach to this communication. Thank you for your cooperation. 11 U.S.C. 528(a)(4) NOTICE. 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I built a very nice TR-3B when I retired from active racing in the late 90's.? Phil Bradbury (who now lives just down the road from me..,. go figure) bought the car from me and raced it for a number of years.? He asked me to co-drive with him in an enduro at Mid-Ohio few years later.? I know Phil traded the car for a race Camaro, but I'm not sure what happened to it after that.? I've never seen it race since.? Does anyone on the list know where my old TR-3B is these days?? It was British Racing Green and had a full cage in it.? If anyone has info as to it's whereabouts, please let me or John know.? The last I knew, it was in the Southeast somewhere. Jack On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 1:53:20 PM EDT, John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph.? Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured.? It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH.? I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes.? The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it.? I am now in the market for another 3 or 4.? If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know.? Cheers! | | ? John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053 704.864.6751?(p)?704.861.8394?(f) mhc-law.com?|?jhasty at mhc-law.com ? ? | CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by a law firm on a legal matter. It may contain information that is confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. 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M?rz 2021 18:52 An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] TR3A #116 I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. 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Hasty via Fot Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:51 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR3A #116 I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. 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M?rz 2021 18:52 An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] TR3A #116 I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., PO. 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URL: From paulricco at att.net Sun Mar 21 15:40:59 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:40:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3A #116 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C035C19-25AB-4F44-9955-5EDF0A3C72D0@att.net> John, I am very sorry to hear about your car. I am glad to hear that you are OK. If I run across anything, I will email you. I do believe that there are a couple of race TR4?s list on www.race-cars.com I do not know anything about either one from personal experience. If you find something in the midwest, I may be heading to North Carolina with my trailer to pick something up. I will be pretty empty headed that way. I could help get something most of the way to you from this area. Good luck finding a car. Again, sorry to hear about your yellow TR3B. I thought is was a very cool car when I saw it Watkins. Paul Ricco (813) 716-1931 > On Mar 21, 2021, at 12:51 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: > > I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney at Law > Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. > 301 S. York St., > P.O. 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Hasty via Fot wrote: > > ? > I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney at Law > Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. > 301 S. York St., > P.O. 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We help people file for bankruptcy relief under the federal Bankruptcy Code. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 21 16:23:05 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 22:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR3A #116 In-Reply-To: <003c01d71e93$1a35d3c0$4ea17b40$@rogers.com> References: <001001d71e8a$b3037f70$190a7e50$@gmail.com> <003c01d71e93$1a35d3c0$4ea17b40$@rogers.com> Message-ID: <388041610.1284906.1616365385644@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Paul.? That was my car at one time.? I bought it from Jerry Pierce (Anderson, IN) shortly before he died way too young.? It was a right hand drive car at that time.? Jerry also had a 1962 TR-4 (CT-311), which he bought new and drove it to the races.? He had a picture of the car racing at Watkins Glen in the early 60's.? He wanted to go faster, so he bought a "prepared" race car and campaigned it through the 70's.? I raced against him a number of times at IRP, from 1974 on.? After I crashed my car at The Runoffs in 1993, Jerry contacted me to see if I would be interested in buying both of his cars and lots of parts.? He was planning his estate (sadly).? He had last raced the 37 car sometime in the late 70's, brought the car home after the race and parked it in his basement.? That's where it sat, until I purchased it in 1994. I was in the process of rebuilding my race car, and his car was just too original to mess it up according to SCCA rules at the time.? So, I went through it mechanically, left the number 37 on it and sold it to Chip Bond.? The rest, I guess is known history to this group.? The ad brought back some fond memories.? Thanks. Regards, Jack On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 4:46:27 PM EDT, Paul MacDonald via Fot wrote: http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/triumph/1591709749/1591709749ss.htm ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hasty via Fot > *Sent:* Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:51 PM > *To:* fot at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Fot] TR3A #116 > > > I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at > Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on > the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not > injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the > NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the > three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to > avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver > claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed > the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another > 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! > > > > *John H. Hasty* > > *Attorney at Law* > > *Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A.* > > 301 S. York St., > > P.O. Box 488 > > Gastonia, NC 28053 > > 704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f) > > mhc-law.com | jhasty at mhc-law.com > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by > a law firm on a legal matter. It may contain information that is > confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate > this message, any part of it, or any attachments. If you have received this > message in error, please delete this message and any attachments from your > system without reading the content and notify the sender immediately of the > inadvertent transmission. There is no intent on the part of the sender to > waive any privilege, including the attorney-client privilege, that may > attach to this communication. Thank you for your cooperation. 11 U.S.C. > 528(a)(4) NOTICE. We are a debt relief agency. 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On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:45:14 -0400, Paul MacDonald via Fot wrote: ? http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/triumph/1591709749/1591709749ss.htm ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sun Mar 21 21:33:14 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 22:33:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3A #116 In-Reply-To: <1616379534.byft2y54748oog0s@webmail.lumos.net> References: <1616379534.byft2y54748oog0s@webmail.lumos.net> Message-ID: <98C9391D-CF7A-4FFC-B0C9-BFF0D4C1B28B@gmail.com> Yup. That was it. John says, ?I know someone that can make the listhappen?. Enter stage left, Mark Bradakis. And this happened at Mid-Ohio while those guys were fabricating an adjustable camber front suspension. The rest is history. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:19 PM, R. John Lye via Fot wrote: > > ? > Wow, I knew that car very well back in the day. It was while Chip was racing it at > Mid-Ohio that Joe Alexander and I first talked about what eventually became the > FOT. Lots of stories and memories associated with that car. > > John > > > On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:45:14 -0400, Paul MacDonald via Fot wrote: > > http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/triumph/1591709749/1591709749ss.htm > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The link is to a video, onboard of the car of Vanderwal (MGB) Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Woensdag 24 maart 2021 18:23:40 Onderwerp: [Fot] TR3A Does anyone know if John Fedderouche (SP) sold his purple TR3 or have his contact info.?? John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053 704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f) [ http://mhc-law.com/ | mhc-law.com ] | [ mailto:akisby-meadows at mhc-law.com | jhasty at mhc-law.com ] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by a law firm on a legal matter. It may contain information that is confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message, any part of it, or any attachments. 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We help people file for bankruptcy relief under the federal Bankruptcy Code. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Mar 28 09:54:50 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:54:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. References: Message-ID: Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, according to Robert Goldman. The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, Erik. I am pleased. Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 106936 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Mar 28 10:13:07 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:13:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C7FCB3A-BB32-4601-92F0-4BCBA6014547@cs.com> This was meant for Kas. I don?t know how it ended up going to the FOT. My apologies. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Fred and Mary Hodgson wrote: > > ? > Congrats on becoming a great grandpa Joe! > > Fred Hodgson > > From: Fot on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 9:54 AM > To: Kas Kastner ; FOT > Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. > > Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. > > In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, according to Robert Goldman. > > The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. > > Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. > > The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. > > There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, Erik. I am pleased. > > Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. > > > In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. > > > > > The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stlnyc at msn.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 10:16:02 2021 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:16:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Big, big congratulations, GG Joe!!! It seems you have developed a worthy empire. You must be as proud as you are thrilled. The Alexander empire has to be ecstatic to have such a great pacesetter as their commander. You are truly an icon! I wish I could make the HOF event but our move, the Kastner Cup, and VTR2021 have all of my vacation hours spoken for. Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" On Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 10:56 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. > > In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, > according to Robert Goldman. > > The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation > in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing > issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with > unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. > > Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start > to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of > your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. > > The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to > Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know > the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a > contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. > > There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, > Erik. I am pleased. > > Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and > order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. > But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. > > > In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. > > > > The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Mar 28 10:22:29 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:22:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06961E79-0C54-4C15-B68B-7754B406C172@cs.com> Thanks Shawn. The HOF thing has essentially been cancelled. Covid and other complications. We are going to do a piece of it at PIR and again at the VTR convention. It falls nicely into place for you. We should talk. Lots going on. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Shawn Frank via Fot wrote: > > ? > Big, big congratulations, GG Joe!!! > > It seems you have developed a worthy empire. You must be as proud as you are thrilled. The Alexander empire has to be ecstatic to have such a great pacesetter as their commander. You are truly an icon! > > I wish I could make the HOF event but our move, the Kastner Cup, and VTR2021 have all of my vacation hours spoken for. > > Shawn Frank > The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor > North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner > Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead > Continued Legacy Photo - Owner > Iowa British Car Club > FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 > Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver > 515-339-4228 > > > '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" > '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 > '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" > >> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 10:56 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. >> >> In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, according to Robert Goldman. >> >> The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. >> >> Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. >> >> The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. >> >> There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, Erik. I am pleased. >> >> Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. >> >> >> In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. >> >> >> >> The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 10:25:17 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:25:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. In-Reply-To: <06961E79-0C54-4C15-B68B-7754B406C172@cs.com> References: <06961E79-0C54-4C15-B68B-7754B406C172@cs.com> Message-ID: <3798FA4D-8DB1-4BB0-B804-BC5E67F27385@gmail.com> I did it again....should have just gone to Shawn. I will quit sending messages. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:23 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Thanks Shawn. > > The HOF thing has essentially been cancelled. Covid and other complications. > > We are going to do a piece of it at PIR and again at the VTR convention. It falls nicely into place for you. We should talk. Lots going on. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >>> On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Shawn Frank via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Big, big congratulations, GG Joe!!! >> >> It seems you have developed a worthy empire. You must be as proud as you are thrilled. The Alexander empire has to be ecstatic to have such a great pacesetter as their commander. You are truly an icon! >> >> I wish I could make the HOF event but our move, the Kastner Cup, and VTR2021 have all of my vacation hours spoken for. >> >> Shawn Frank >> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor >> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner >> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead >> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner >> Iowa British Car Club >> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 >> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver >> 515-339-4228 >> >> >> '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" >> '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 >> '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" >> >>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 10:56 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. >>> >>> In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, according to Robert Goldman. >>> >>> The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. >>> >>> Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. >>> >>> The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. >>> >>> There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, Erik. I am pleased. >>> >>> Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. >>> >>> >>> In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. >>> >>> >>> >>> The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the past we've set up outside turn 2 in the grassy area.? Thanks for doing the Chief Stewart gig! Regards, Tony Drews (Tr-4 #95) On 3/28/2021 1:30 PM, Doug Mitchell via Fot wrote: > Amici, > We're about 5 weeks out from Spring?Brake, just wondering how many of > you are attending? If you are, I'll be there, hopefully set up near > the tech shed/timing building. Look for an Avenger travel trailer and > a dark red (looks black) F150. I'm not racing, but I am the Chief > Steward. Please stop by and say hi. Just so long as it isn't an > official visit. > > Stay safe, > Doug Mitchell > dbm.spitfire at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cudapilot at comcast.net Sun Mar 28 14:53:42 2021 From: cudapilot at comcast.net (Brian Garcia) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 15:53:42 -0500 Subject: [Fot] VSCDA Spring Brake In-Reply-To: <6d20d716-a708-c14e-b2d0-fd1cba9b68e1@tonydrews.com> References: <6d20d716-a708-c14e-b2d0-fd1cba9b68e1@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <78735470-F4D6-4A76-AE2B-C487D5F9350D@comcast.net> I?ll be there with the Barracuda. Brian Garcia Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 28, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > > ? > I'll be there, I think Murphys are planning to come too. In the past we've set up outside turn 2 in the grassy area. Thanks for doing the Chief Stewart gig! > > Regards, Tony Drews (Tr-4 #95) > > On 3/28/2021 1:30 PM, Doug Mitchell via Fot wrote: >> Amici, >> We're about 5 weeks out from Spring Brake, just wondering how many of you are attending? If you are, I'll be there, hopefully set up near the tech shed/timing building. Look for an Avenger travel trailer and a dark red (looks black) F150. I'm not racing, but I am the Chief Steward. Please stop by and say hi. 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There were several people that attended that influenced them to join the vintage racing scene. The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on that event. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: ? I was there as well. That was when I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA. Charles Runyan had asked me to bring my car over and put it on display at The Roadster Factory tent. I think TRF helped sponsor the event. I towed my car over with my race van and brought my Harley along in the back of the van. Once I dropped the race car off at the TRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent the rest of the weekend riding around on my Harley. Great fun. Great memories. Jack On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot wrote: I was there, as a spectator. 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URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Mon Mar 1 11:03:24 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 18:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1321506305.638117.1614621804278@mail.yahoo.com> Yeah I'm going to agree, out of all of the hundreds of races that I've been to in some capacity or other, Mid-O '92 Vintage pretty much stands at the top of the list, the TR force was STRONG that weekend!!!(It was especially quite an adventure hauling up from south florida in my (still) daily-driver 66SWB Land Rover, 3 days up, 2 1/2 back including rigging-up a split trailer tongue patch)It's good to see that many of us are still around, sad that a few aren't, but that the FOT is very much alive & well, thanks to all who make it all happen! Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: T. R. Householder via Fot To: 'Joe Alexander' ; 'fot at autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio I was approached to look into this in 1990 and insisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 year comparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers on board Sue Harsh was a great help ?Tom Mahoney and COCTRA came own board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were great promoters ?Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd . Greatest event in history MHO! -----------------------------------------From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" To: "Jack Wheeler" Cc: "FOT Triumph" Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to get serious creditfor this. There were several people that attended that influenced themto join the vintage racing scene. The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on that event.? Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Jack Wheelervia Fot wrote: ?I was there as well.? Thatwas when I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA.? Charles Runyanhad asked me to bring my car over and put it on display at TheRoadster Factory tent.? I think TRF helped sponsor theevent.? I towed my car over with my race van and brought myHarley along in the back of the van.? Once I dropped the racecar off at the TRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent therest of the weekend riding around on my Harley.? Greatfun.? Great memories. Jack On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST, Terry Stetlervia Fot wrote: I was there, as aspectator.? If you look real carefully, you can see me in myBRG TR3 with Revolution wheels and only front over riders (nobumper) pulling out on track for the parade laps.As we were waiting togo on track, Bob Tullius walked by and said he liked how I had mycar set up!?Good times.?Terry StetlerSent from Mail for Windows 10?From: yellow04 via Fot Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 10:24 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio?A while back we had a discussion about the1992 Mid-Ohio event, and folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared somevideo he took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us abunch of pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. ThanksDan! 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URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 11:36:09 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 12:36:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio In-Reply-To: <8a1536064923c10dc5b592e206736dfc@tr4racer.com> References: <8a1536064923c10dc5b592e206736dfc@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: I missed the 1992 Mid Ohio event, even though my current TR4 did not. Although I've had a TR6 since 1977, I didn't get involved with any clubs until the 1989 VTR National was held in Texas. I wasn't able to go to the National, but the knowledge that there was a chapter in Houston, DFW and San Antonio gave me the impetus to get the Hill Country Triumph Cub started. The club started fast and we met many like minded people at the Texas Regional in New Braunfels in 1990. I started autocrossing the TR6 and the wick was lit. In 1991 we towed my daily driver (3 kids) TR6 to Savannah GA for the VTR National. The host club GTA arranged for the autocross event to be held at Roebling Road. I had fun doing the autocross but the real fun happened on the way back to the front straight to line up again. Triumph race cars were everywhere because the event included what I remember as a race car onlySolo track event over the weekend. As a TR6 guy I spent some time talking to JK Jackson who had brought along a troupe of TR6 racers. It was a long time ago but I think Bill Dentinger was there, and Glen Efinger, and probably a lot more FoT than I knew. That event served to get the candle kept burning for me. Bob Kramer On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 9:24 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > A while back we had a discussion about the 1992 Mid-Ohio event, and > folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared some video he > took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us a bunch of > pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. Thanks Dan! > > All great stuff and it's on the event's page: > > https://fot-racing.com/fot-feature-events/mid-ohio-1992/ > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grandwazoo at earthlink.net Mon Mar 1 11:53:30 2021 From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 13:53:30 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Message-ID: <1664655795.4151.1614624810995@wamui-agami.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Mon Mar 1 12:11:57 2021 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2021 19:11:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Message-ID: <22b21e1b55ae6616b979b811d7bdd7fc80559286@webmail> Not sure if I posted this but lost my Wife and best friend over 50 years last week She was a big help at Mid Ohio 92 and 02 https://www.facebook.com/susie.householder -----------------------------------------From: "Mike Jackson via Fot" To: "fubog1", "fot at autox.team.net", "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" Cc: Sent: Monday March 1 2021 1:54:06PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio It remains a huge memory of a great race weekend. It would never have happened, or been as great for me personally without Tom creating the event and Glen creating our TR3 from an old street car. It will race again still largely in the same spec as nearly 30 years ago. Thanks to both of you! Mike Jackson -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 via Fot Sent: Mar 1, 2021 1:03 PM To: "fot at autox.team.net" , "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Yeah I'm going to agree, out of all of the hundreds of races that I've been to in some capacity or other, Mid-O '92 Vintage pretty much stands at the top of the list, the TR force was STRONG that weekend!!! (It was especially quite an adventure hauling up from south florida in my (still) daily-driver 66SWB Land Rover, 3 days up, 2 1/2 back including rigging-up a split trailer tongue patch) It's good to see that many of us are still around, sad that a few aren't, but that the FOT is very much alive & well, thanks to all who make it all happen! Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: T. R. Householder via Fot To: 'Joe Alexander' ; 'fot at autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio I was approached to look into this in 1990 and insisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 year comparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers on board Sue Harsh was a great help Tom Mahoney and COCTRA came own board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were great promoters Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd . Greatest event in history MHO! ----------------------------------------- From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" To: "Jack Wheeler" Cc: "FOT Triumph" Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to get serious credit for this. There were several people that attended that influenced them to join the vintage racing scene. The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on that event. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: ? I was there as well. That was when I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA. Charles Runyan had asked me to bring my car over and put it on display at The Roadster Factory tent. I think TRF helped sponsor the event. I towed my car over with my race van and brought my Harley along in the back of the van. Once I dropped the race car off at the TRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent the rest of the weekend riding around on my Harley. Great fun. Great memories. Jack On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot wrote: I was there, as a spectator. If you look real carefully, you can see me in my BRG TR3 with Revolution wheels and only front over riders (no bumper) pulling out on track for the parade laps. 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URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Mon Mar 1 12:46:16 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 19:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio In-Reply-To: <22b21e1b55ae6616b979b811d7bdd7fc80559286@webmail> References: <22b21e1b55ae6616b979b811d7bdd7fc80559286@webmail> Message-ID: <2097776265.585140.1614627976224@mail.yahoo.com> Very sorry to hear this Tom, hang in there, the loss of others makes us appreciate every new day more...Glen -----Original Message----- From: T. R. Householder via Fot To: 'Mike Jackson' Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net' ; 'fubog1' Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 2:11 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Not sure if I posted this but lost my Wife and best friend over 50 years last week She was a big help at Mid Ohio 92 and 02 https://www.facebook.com/susie.householder -----------------------------------------From: "Mike Jackson via Fot" To: "fubog1", "fot at autox.team.net", "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" Cc: Sent: Monday March 1 2021 1:54:06PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio It remains a huge memory of a great race weekend.It would never have happened, or been as great for mepersonally without Tom creating the event and Glen creating our TR3from an old street car.? It will race again still largely inthe same spec as nearly 30 years ago. Thanks to both of you! Mike Jackson -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 via Fot Sent: Mar 1, 2021 1:03 PM To: "fot at autox.team.net" , "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Yeah I'm going to agree, out of all of thehundreds of races that I've been to in some capacity or other,Mid-O '92 Vintage pretty much stands at the top of the list, the TRforce was STRONG that weekend!!!(It was especially quite an adventure haulingup from south florida in my (still) daily-driver 66SWB Land Rover,3 days up, 2 1/2 back including rigging-up a split trailer tonguepatch)It's good to see that many of us are stillaround, sad that a few aren't, but that the FOT is very much alive& well, thanks to all who make it all happen! Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: T. R. Householder via Fot To: 'Joe Alexander' ;'fot at autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio I was approached to look into this in 1990 andinsisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 yearcomparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers onboard Sue Harsh was a great help ?Tom Mahoney and COCTRA cameown board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were greatpromoters ?Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd. Greatest event in history MHO! -----------------------------------------From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" To: "Jack Wheeler" Cc: "FOT Triumph" Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to getserious credit for this. There were several people that attended thatinfluenced them to join the vintage racing scene. The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on thatevent.? Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, JackWheeler via Fot wrote: ?I was there as well.? That waswhen I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA.? Charles Runyan hadasked me to bring my car over and put it on display at The RoadsterFactory tent.? I think TRF helped sponsor the event.? Itowed my car over with my race van and brought my Harley along inthe back of the van.? Once I dropped the race car off at theTRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent the rest of theweekend riding around on my Harley.? Great fun.? Greatmemories. Jack On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST,Terry Stetler via Fot wrote: I was there, as a spectator.? If you look realcarefully, you can see me in my BRG TR3 with Revolution wheels andonly front over riders (no bumper) pulling out on track for theparade laps.As we were waiting to go on track, Bob Tulliuswalked by and said he liked how I had my car set up!?Good times.?Terry StetlerSent from Mail forWindows 10?From: yellow04 via Fot Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 10:24 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event atMid-Ohio?A while back we had adiscussion about the 1992 Mid-Ohio event, and folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared somevideo he took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us abunch of pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. ThanksDan! 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URL: From jshawtr2 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 1 13:19:26 2021 From: jshawtr2 at yahoo.com (Jim Shaw) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 15:19:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio In-Reply-To: <1664655795.4151.1614624810995@wamui-agami.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <1664655795.4151.1614624810995@wamui-agami.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3E723E12-3846-45EE-839B-5DB9E2163CB5@yahoo.com> I remember that one well. Great event thanks to all that made it happen. I also remember getting a speeding ticket trying to catch Jack. Him Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 1, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Mike Jackson via Fot wrote: > > ? > It remains a huge memory of a great race weekend. > It would never have happened, or been as great for me personally without Tom creating the event and Glen creating our TR3 from an old street car. It will race again still largely in the same spec as nearly 30 years ago. > > Thanks to both of you! > > Mike Jackson > > -----Original Message----- > From: fubog1 via Fot > Sent: Mar 1, 2021 1:03 PM > To: "fot at autox.team.net" , "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" > Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio > > Yeah I'm going to agree, out of all of the hundreds of races that I've been to in some capacity or other, Mid-O '92 Vintage pretty much stands at the top of the list, the TR force was STRONG that weekend!!! > (It was especially quite an adventure hauling up from south florida in my (still) daily-driver 66SWB Land Rover, 3 days up, 2 1/2 back including rigging-up a split trailer tongue patch) > It's good to see that many of us are still around, sad that a few aren't, but that the FOT is very much alive & well, thanks to all who make it all happen! > > Glen Efinger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: T. R. Householder via Fot > To: 'Joe Alexander' ; 'fot at autox.team.net' > Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 12:38 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio > > I was approached to look into this in 1990 and insisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 year comparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers on board Sue Harsh was a great help Tom Mahoney and COCTRA came own board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were great promoters Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd . Greatest event in history MHO! > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" > To: "Jack Wheeler" > Cc: "FOT Triumph" > Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio > > Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. > > Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to get serious credit for this. > > There were several people that attended that influenced them to join the vintage racing scene. > > The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on that event. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: > > ? > I was there as well. That was when I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA. Charles Runyan had asked me to bring my car over and put it on display at The Roadster Factory tent. I think TRF helped sponsor the event. I towed my car over with my race van and brought my Harley along in the back of the van. Once I dropped the race car off at the TRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent the rest of the weekend riding around on my Harley. Great fun. Great memories. > > Jack > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot wrote: > > > I was there, as a spectator. If you look real carefully, you can see me in my BRG TR3 with Revolution wheels and only front over riders (no bumper) pulling out on track for the parade laps. > As we were waiting to go on track, Bob Tullius walked by and said he liked how I had my car set up! > > Good times. > > Terry Stetler > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: yellow04 via Fot > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 10:24 AM > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio > > A while back we had a discussion about the 1992 Mid-Ohio event, and > folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared some video he > took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us a bunch of > pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. Thanks Dan! > > All great stuff and it's on the event's page: > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffot-racing.com%2Ffot-feature-events%2Fmid-ohio-1992%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690200076%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=2cWY2G56x05pmtgzsDk8ZWob%2Bje3D8GcRg2A21QnWZE%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=0YscLb9IaK9hBM4CPUXIv1kfMYEgjgP8cK43yuvlQ%2BM%3D&reserved=0 > > Donate: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Yky1S01gnBeYzlsDgJyK8Cd8EMmGdlCr7fEAmntI6SU%3D&reserved=0 > Archive: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Farchive&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=zeALenM0RWp0tIidrJC7h6%2F%2BV9w7%2B55mUu08clGVrXc%3D&reserved=0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Ffot&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=p5he%2FrT040JJZDPr%2Fa6%2Bd9ilzvKc5ekPiK06fwyI%2FYY%3D&reserved=0 > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Ftlizzard%40msn.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Uo4l56jbo%2B3LRdWTmTKbXU2uUjR%2FX1n4DxfQMxqUI%2Bk%3D&reserved=0 > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jshawtr2 at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Seeing as Lacey III will be ready for the track this year :-) Jamie Palmer Sent from my iPad > On Mar 2, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Joe Henry via Fot wrote: > > ? > Photo of our TR6 at the 2012 Kastner Cup at Road Atlanta driven by Joe Downer. > > Joe Downer > Charlotte, NC > <474FFE1C-4DB4-4793-80EF-139D6BBD0CC5.jpeg> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Seeing as Lacey III will be ready for the track this year :-) > > Jamie Palmer > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 2, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Joe Henry via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> Photo of our TR6 at the 2012 Kastner Cup at Road Atlanta driven by Joe Downer. >> >> Joe Downer >> Charlotte, NC >> <474FFE1C-4DB4-4793-80EF-139D6BBD0CC5.jpeg> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver at yahoo.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen at charter.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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His name is Bruce Turner and his contact number is on the attached flyer. I have seen this car and it is a very well prepared and well-equipped car, could also make a great vintage racer. It has not been raced for a while and is located in the Columbus, Ohio area. Sam Halkias -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Turner Spitfire for sale.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 561729 bytes Desc: Turner Spitfire for sale.pdf URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 17:00:36 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 16:00:36 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Always a second on a Spitfire guy! I believe Ian has become active on our ?Racing the Triumph Spitfire? Facebook group as well. Cheers, Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > > ? > I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. > > He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. > > Can I get a second? > > mike h > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From fmccjr at aol.com Thu Mar 4 17:05:42 2021 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:05:42 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C6C6B36-BA3E-4286-AAD3-4DF0DBE09208@aol.com> SECOND!! Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY > On Mar 4, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ?Always a second on a Spitfire guy! > > I believe Ian has become active on our ?Racing the Triumph Spitfire? Facebook group as well. > > Cheers, > > > Brad Eells > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. >> >> He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. >> >> Can I get a second? >> >> mike h >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > From trmarty at hotmail.com Thu Mar 4 17:45:46 2021 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 00:45:46 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Second for sure. Marty ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Mike Harmuth via Fot Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 6:50 PM To: FoTTriumph ; Ian Johnson Subject: [Fot] Nomination I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. Can I get a second? mike h -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Thu Mar 4 18:24:20 2021 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 01:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> Here's a suggestion for prepping his car.? Buy the car that Sam recently posted.? Having built cars from a street car, in the long run it is usually better to start with an already built race car.? The disadvantage is the upfront cost.? When you build a car, the money is spent over time, but in the long run, more money is spent.? If the upfront cost can be handled, the car can be put on track almost immediately (if there is still money left for entry fees and so on).? That's my 2 cents.? JoeB On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 06:52:01 PM EST, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a? New York youngster who bought a Spitfire?race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. He's autocrossed?it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. Can I get a second? mike h_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Thu Mar 4 18:55:30 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:55:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7A161D72-C36A-409A-A60D-BE6856E48C8F@aol.com> Second! Gotta support those who want to carry the legacy forward!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 4, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > ? > Here's a suggestion for prepping his car. Buy the car that Sam recently posted. Having built cars from a street car, in the long run it is usually better to start with an already built race car. The disadvantage is the upfront cost. When you build a car, the money is spent over time, but in the long run, more money is spent. If the upfront cost can be handled, the car can be put on track almost immediately (if there is still money left for entry fees and so on). That's my 2 cents. JoeB > > On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 06:52:01 PM EST, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > > > I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. > > He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. > > Can I get a second? > > mike h > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Mar 4 19:38:46 2021 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 02:38:46 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> References: , <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hear, hear. Started with a street car, ended up with a tarted-up street car. Still, had a ball with it on track, but would have been much better off with an old race car. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Joe Boruch via Fot Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 7:24:20 PM To: FoTTriumph ; Ian Johnson ; Mike Harmuth Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Here's a suggestion for prepping his car. Buy the car that Sam recently posted. Having built cars from a street car, in the long run it is usually better to start with an already built race car. The disadvantage is the upfront cost. When you build a car, the money is spent over time, but in the long run, more money is spent. If the upfront cost can be handled, the car can be put on track almost immediately (if there is still money left for entry fees and so on). That's my 2 cents. JoeB On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 06:52:01 PM EST, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. Can I get a second? mike h _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 21:39:02 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:39:02 -0800 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> References: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Hello everyone, Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been much more complicated. The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look forward to racing with you all soon. Thanks, Chuck > On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > > ?Hello all, > > I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. > > If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll ship once I receive payment. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> ?Hi Amici, >> >> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ?Hello all, >>> >>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send again. >>> >>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? >>> >>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order and get them going. >>> >>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hello all, >>>> >>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth so far and I appreciate it! >>>> >>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. >>>> >>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! >>>> >>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. >>>>> >>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 reference. >>>>> >>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Chuck Gee >>>>> >>>>> This is the back: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT logo though with some friends of triumph wording): >>>>> >>>>> From rkramer56 at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 06:25:11 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 07:25:11 -0600 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> References: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mine has been christened. Short story, humorous to me at least. I wore my Explosives shirt.last Saturday morning to get a haircut. I wanted to break it in before the first laundering. Being half Italian I have more than my share of hair on the back of my neck and the freshly cut hairs get caught in the collar of the shirt I wear for a haircut. I get annoyed easily and the collar makes me itch. I routinely throw that shirt in the wash after the haircut. The lady that cut my hair must have done a good job with tying off that little swath of paper because I didn't have any itching. Next thing I knowmy wife is asking me "I thought you weren't going to get that shirt all greasy?" She is still soaking it. I'm thinking a few grease stains are appropriate. Bob Kramer On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:42 PM Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m > shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly > do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been > much more complicated. > > The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! > I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look > forward to racing with you all soon. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > > > > ?Hello all, > > > > I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came > out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. > > > > If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll > ship once I receive payment. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chuck > > > >> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> ?Hi Amici, > >> > >> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime > this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do > so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. > >> > >> Chuck > >> > >>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>> > >>> ?Hello all, > >>> > >>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed > interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send > again. > >>> > >>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top > tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? > >>> > >>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this > off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order > and get them going. > >>> > >>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! > >>> > >>> Chuck > >>> > >>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ?Hello all, > >>>> > >>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth > so far and I appreciate it! > >>>> > >>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus > shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. > >>>> > >>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get > in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost > is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can > always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! > >>>> > >>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. > Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you > don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to > the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need > addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as > PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not > exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Chuck > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ?Hello all, > >>>>> > >>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These > were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to > parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. > >>>>> > >>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and > decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of > you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere > between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone > interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to > illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 > reference. > >>>>> > >>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my > original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>>> Chuck Gee > >>>>> > >>>>> This is the back: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT > logo though with some friends of triumph wording): > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 06:47:06 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 08:47:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> References: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks again Chuck! > On Mar 4, 2021, at 23:41, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Hello everyone, > > Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been much more complicated. > > The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look forward to racing with you all soon. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> ?Hello all, >> >> I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. >> >> If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll ship once I receive payment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ?Hi Amici, >>> >>> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hello all, >>>> >>>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send again. >>>> >>>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? >>>> >>>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order and get them going. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth so far and I appreciate it! >>>>> >>>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. >>>>> >>>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! >>>>> >>>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. >>>>>> >>>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 reference. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck Gee >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the back: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT logo though with some friends of triumph wording): >>>>>> >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From michaelndeweerd at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 08:15:15 2021 From: michaelndeweerd at gmail.com (Michael Deweerd) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 10:15:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> References: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Love the shirts and I'm looking forward to (FINGERS AND TOES CROSSED) having a race season this year. Perhaps the Border will be open and I can see you guys at an event this summer!!! Cheers Amici Mike Deweerd TR4 On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 11:42 PM Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m > shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly > do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been > much more complicated. > > The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! > I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look > forward to racing with you all soon. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > > > > ?Hello all, > > > > I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came > out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. > > > > If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll > ship once I receive payment. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chuck > > > >> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> ?Hi Amici, > >> > >> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime > this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do > so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. > >> > >> Chuck > >> > >>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>> > >>> ?Hello all, > >>> > >>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed > interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send > again. > >>> > >>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top > tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? > >>> > >>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this > off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order > and get them going. > >>> > >>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! > >>> > >>> Chuck > >>> > >>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ?Hello all, > >>>> > >>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth > so far and I appreciate it! > >>>> > >>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus > shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. > >>>> > >>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get > in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost > is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can > always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! > >>>> > >>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. > Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you > don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to > the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need > addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as > PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not > exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Chuck > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ?Hello all, > >>>>> > >>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These > were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to > parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. > >>>>> > >>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and > decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of > you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere > between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone > interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to > illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 > reference. > >>>>> > >>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my > original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>>> Chuck Gee > >>>>> > >>>>> This is the back: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT > logo though with some friends of triumph wording): > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com > > > -- *Mike Deweerd* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 5 08:30:06 2021 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 08:30:06 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <196d1837-4dae-bd4e-7f98-9ee855ce4e7a@bradakis.com> On 3/4/21 4:50 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a? New York youngster who bought a > Spitfire?race car and is in the process of building it into a road > racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is > looking for some suggestions on prepping it. > > He's autocrossed?it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well > as vintage racing. > > Can I get a second? > He's been added.? And he has already posted to the Racing the Triumph Spitfire Facebook page. mjb. From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Fri Mar 5 10:43:05 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 11:43:05 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tony Drews contact Message-ID: <9F669C18-ACD2-4705-BA5F-DC9A622A106B@icloud.com> Sorry to bomb the list but my phone was erased recently. Tony can you contact me off list? Gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone From lunkercars at yahoo.com Fri Mar 5 15:46:02 2021 From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 15:46:02 -0700 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> References: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43165629-C9FA-4404-819B-A8579094752D@yahoo.com> Kind of funny when you think about it... For these shirts and the Cobra that inspired their making, there are now more reproductions than originals! Thanks again Chuck, Steve and Kas, Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer Albuquerque NM > On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been much more complicated. > > The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look forward to racing with you all soon. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> ?Hello all, >> >> I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. >> >> If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll ship once I receive payment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ?Hi Amici, >>> >>> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hello all, >>>> >>>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send again. >>>> >>>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? >>>> >>>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order and get them going. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth so far and I appreciate it! >>>>> >>>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. >>>>> >>>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! >>>>> >>>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. >>>>>> >>>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 reference. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck Gee >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the back: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT logo though with some friends of triumph wording): >>>>>> >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lunkercars at yahoo.com > > From chasgee22 at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 23:20:03 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 22:20:03 -0800 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <43165629-C9FA-4404-819B-A8579094752D@yahoo.com> References: <43165629-C9FA-4404-819B-A8579094752D@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0C0EFB19-64C1-45FF-8A96-0A6E0D060079@gmail.com> Indeed it is. Chuck > On Mar 5, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Greg Hilyer wrote: > > ?Kind of funny when you think about it... > For these shirts and the Cobra that inspired their making, there are now more reproductions than originals! > Thanks again Chuck, Steve and Kas, > Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer > Albuquerque NM > >> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been much more complicated. >> >> The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look forward to racing with you all soon. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ?Hello all, >>> >>> I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. >>> >>> If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll ship once I receive payment. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hi Amici, >>>> >>>> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send again. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? >>>>> >>>>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order and get them going. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth so far and I appreciate it! >>>>>> >>>>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. >>>>>> >>>>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! >>>>>> >>>>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 reference. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chuck Gee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the back: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT logo though with some friends of triumph wording): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lunkercars at yahoo.com >> >> > From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 7 09:44:42 2021 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted References: <372135488.241435.1615135482872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph | | | | | | | | | | | 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph | | | New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! c ya,Bob Lang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Sun Mar 7 10:03:15 2021 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:03:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted In-Reply-To: <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> References: <372135488.241435.1615135482872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1615136595.3w3th2ac8c44sws4@webmail.lumos.net> That was fun, thanks Bob.? After pulling an all-nighter to get Chris's car back on track, I still remember how gratifying it felt to see him do so well.? It was worth it all. Thanks, John ? On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC), Robert Lang via Fot wrote: ? Hi, ? Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: ? 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph ? ? ? 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph ? ? ? New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. ? In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. ? WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! ? c ya, Bob Lang ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Sun Mar 7 10:28:16 2021 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 12:28:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted In-Reply-To: <1615136595.3w3th2ac8c44sws4@webmail.lumos.net> References: <372135488.241435.1615135482872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> <1615136595.3w3th2ac8c44sws4@webmail.lumos.net> Message-ID: <32330E570BB347F3BCB77F3B25188198@VlackTK121647> There were many memories made by the event but the overnight rebuild of the TR5 which I believe included some frame straightening was the most memorable. JVV From: R. John Lye via Fot Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 12:03 PM To: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted That was fun, thanks Bob. After pulling an all-nighter to get Chris's car back on track, I still remember how gratifying it felt to see him do so well. It was worth it all. Thanks, John On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC), Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Hi, Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! c ya, Bob Lang _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 7 12:20:37 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 19:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Cylinder Head Studs References: <1634902746.307499.1615144837286.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1634902746.307499.1615144837286@mail.yahoo.com> Back in the day, when I was racing on a tight budget, I always picked out the best looking cylinder head studs I had, and used them in my race engines.? In 25 years of racing, I never bought any new studs.? I suspect that most of the racers on this list are using more modern, high tech studs today.? However, during the years that I was racing, I parted out a lot of cars/engines and kept all of the cylinder head studs. I have over 100 long ones and over 100 short ones?? There are 2 lengths of long studs and I have a mix of each.? There are 3 lengths of short ones, the longest being the one that the lifting bracket attaches to at the right rear (facing forward) corner of the head, next to the water outlet for the heater..? I got rid of all of those that I had to an FOT lister.? I have a mix of the shorter 2 sizes of the short studs. If anyone is interested in any of these studs, all I ask is that you pay for the shipping (heavy, so they will be expensive to ship long distances).? Let me know what sizes you want, and I will send them out. Any that are not claimed will go to my friend at the scrap metal yard.? Thanks. Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From curt.johnston at comcast.net Sun Mar 7 13:40:16 2021 From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 12:40:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted In-Reply-To: <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> References: <372135488.241435.1615135482872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1108651958.138779.1615149616867@connect.xfinity.com> Great foot Bob, and fun to see. I think we should set up a link to this video on the FOT page or the new Kastner Cup webpage: http://kastnercup2021.com/ Curt Johnston > On 03/07/2021 8:44 AM Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > > > Hi, > > Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: > > 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEOwCDwOSv4 > > > > 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph > > > > > New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. > > In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. > > WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! > > c ya, > Bob Lang > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/curt.johnston at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lots of new AE engine bearings for Spit/GT6/TR250/6/TR-3-4/Spit 1500 TR-3 steering wheel for adj column (new TRF) TR-3 horn head assembly new Multiple Payen and OEM gasket sets There is also Spitfire round-tail rear quarter sheetmetal Spitfire Mk3 rear center section Spitfire & GT6 floor sections Spitfire/GT-6 rocker panels-both sides TR-4-6 door skins TR3 seat frames(used) Ferrari TR brake caliper pistons Contact me off line so we don't clutter up the FOT list please. Russ Moore 63 Spitfire #49(among many others) -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave just donated this print to our new British Sports Car Hall of Fame facilities. Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > From alfetta95 at optonline.net Tue Mar 9 08:12:26 2021 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:12:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Townsend In-Reply-To: <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091@cs.com> References: <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091@cs.com> Message-ID: <47FB3A97-8F21-4CD5-A32E-71FA953AC6A9@optonline.net> Beautiful picture! I second Welcome Dave! Todd > On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?FOT, > > Dave Townsend is a serial Triumph owner and a racer in the past. But he is also an automotive artist. Dave just donated this print to our new British Sports Car Hall of Fame facilities. Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. > > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net > > From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 08:20:55 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 09:20:55 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Townsend In-Reply-To: <47FB3A97-8F21-4CD5-A32E-71FA953AC6A9@optonline.net> References: <47FB3A97-8F21-4CD5-A32E-71FA953AC6A9@optonline.net> Message-ID: Here?s Dave! Self Introduction to follow. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. >> >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From terrysopher at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 08:35:58 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:35:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Townsend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Love Dave?s work - I have the TR250 print he did - matches my concours TR250 perfectly! > On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:22, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Here?s Dave! Self Introduction to follow. > > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On Mar 9, 2021, at 9:14 AM, Alfetta95 via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Beautiful picture! >> >> I second >> >> Welcome Dave! >> Todd >> >> >> >>>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?FOT, >>> >>> Dave Townsend is a serial Triumph owner and a racer in the past. But he is also an automotive artist. Dave just donated this print to our new British Sports Car Hall of Fame facilities. Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 09:25:42 2021 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:25:42 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Townsend In-Reply-To: <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091@cs.com> References: <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091.ref@cs.com> <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091@cs.com> Message-ID: I wholeheartedly second!!! Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 9:06 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > FOT, > > Dave Townsend is a serial Triumph owner and a racer in the past. But he is > also an automotive artist. Dave just donated this print to our new British > Sports Car Hall of Fame facilities. Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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John Lye via Fot Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 12:03 PM To: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted ? That was fun, thanks Bob.? After pulling an all-nighter to get Chris's car back on track, I still remember how gratifying it felt to see him do so well.? It was worth it all. Thanks, John ? On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC), Robert Lang via Fot wrote: ? Hi, ? Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: ? 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph ? ? ? 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph ? ? ? New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. ? In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. ? WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! ? c ya, Bob Lang ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dos_gusanos at msn.com Tue Mar 9 13:48:00 2021 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 20:48:00 +0000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from Outlook ________________________________ From: Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To: Cliff Hansen Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen > wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours. Thanks, Cliff Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Tue Mar 9 13:52:38 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 15:52:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> I re-use the ARP head studs. Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from Outlook From: Triumphs > on behalf of Greg Lemon > Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To: Cliff Hansen > Cc: list Triumph > Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen > wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours. Thanks, Cliff Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So I would like to ask this very knowledgeable and passionate group, what do you thinks it?s value is and is their any interest in acquiring it. Thanks in advance for your consideration. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 [cid:image003.jpg at 01D713E3.136159D0] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 97118B40888C4F2FBCC9D1ABB94E9DED.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 108381 bytes Desc: 97118B40888C4F2FBCC9D1ABB94E9DED.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: EXECUTIVE SUMMARY 1969 TRIUMPH TR6.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 14187 bytes Desc: EXECUTIVE SUMMARY 1969 TRIUMPH TR6.docx URL: From vfracing at aol.com Tue Mar 9 16:49:23 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 18:49:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> Message-ID: <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. And yes, I re use the ARP studs. Phil Gott ?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?I re-use the ARP head studs. Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: > > In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ > > Henry Morrison > > Sent from Outlook > > From: Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon > Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM > To: Cliff Hansen > Cc: list Triumph > Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. > > Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. > > Greg Lemon, TR250 > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: > I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours. > > Thanks, > > Cliff > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Tue Mar 9 19:37:55 2021 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 12:37:55 +1000 Subject: [Fot] TR6 cylinder head question Message-ID: im trying to confirm the casting and part numbers for the cylinder head on the US market TR6 & GT6 (Mk2 & 3) engines my records, going back decades, mostly covers the UK cars and i'm aware the US was often different. the numbers i'm chasing are clearly marked on the intake/exh port side. The part number is stamped into the head on machined flat surface near #1 intake port , and the cast number (raised) is cast in, roughly above #3 intake port. Both can be seen with the rocker cover in place if anyone happens to have a head off an engine and knowns its never been machined, then a thickness measurement would really help For example, commencing around 1974 for the 2500 engine, the cast numbers typically changes to 313247 for "low compression" and 313248 for 'high compression" They are differing thickness. . Both have a round boss near #5 cylinder location that was drilled and threaded for an EGR valve if needed. As such, there are many different part numbers for bare and completed heads. I'll post up my data table FYI, once i get this sorted many thanks Terry Australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Mar 10 06:36:58 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 13:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <485528335.937763.1615383418786@mail.yahoo.com> It isn't necessarily that the stock studs will break, they are more prone to stretching.The main advantage of the ARP studs is their ability to retain torque.Glen -----Original Message----- From: Henry A. Morrison via Fot To: FOT Triumph Sent: Tue, Mar 9, 2021 3:48 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? #yiv4391055996 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.? Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from Outlook From: Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To: Cliff Hansen Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs??I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.?Thanks,?Cliff??Sent from Mail for Windows 10?** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Wed Mar 10 13:10:47 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 15:10:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 block for free References: <39DEDB99-6509-4B3A-A4EF-A3AE6EFEF16E@me.com> Message-ID: Number CC78837UE Later block with recessed grooves for head gasket, includes main bearing caps. sleeved and bored 30 over. Light cylinder wall wear and needs to be bored again before using. I found a different block to work with. Just north of Philadelphia, or will deliver to Jefferson 500 in May. If no interest, it?s off to the scrapper. Scott Janzen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 10 15:44:24 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> Message-ID: <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Phil.? I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.? 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with Gaskacinch)..? Worked then, sounds like it still works now.? Some things never change. Jack On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. ?And yes, I re use the ARP studs.?Phil Gott?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: ? I re-use the ARP head studs. ?Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.? Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from?Outlook From:?Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent:?Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To:?Cliff Hansen Cc:?list Triumph Subject:?Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs??I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.?Thanks,?Cliff??Sent from?Mail?for Windows 10?**?triumphs at autox.team.net?** Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs??http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://autox.team.net/archive?http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Mar 10 16:14:12 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 23:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw in easily.The current replacements have all of the holes same size. Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Jack Wheeler via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: FOT Triumph Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? Hi Phil.? I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.? 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with Gaskacinch)..? Worked then, sounds like it still works now.? Some things never change. Jack On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. ?And yes, I re use the ARP studs.?Phil Gott?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: ? I re-use the ARP head studs. ?Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.? Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from?Outlook From:?Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent:?Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To:?Cliff Hansen Cc:?list Triumph Subject:?Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs??I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.?Thanks,?Cliff??Sent from?Mail?for Windows 10?**?triumphs at autox.team.net?** Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs??http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://autox.team.net/archive?http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 16:29:58 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 17:29:58 -0600 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Back in 2002 at Mid Ohio they had a swap meet in the car show area. I bought a box of a hundred new head studs and a sleeve of NOS shim steel head gaskets from a guy there. Ithink I paid $100 for the whole lot. I still have some gaskets. I sold some stud sets on eBay years and years ago to recoup the cost but I still have a bunch. I also started using ARP because of the hex key recess.. Bob Kramer On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 5:22 PM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just > slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay > the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw > in easily. > The current replacements have all of the holes same size. > Glen Efinger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Wheeler via Fot > To: Phil Gott > Cc: FOT Triumph > Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > Hi Phil. I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim > head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago. 2 studs, head > gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared > with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with > Gaskacinch).. Worked then, sounds like it still works now. Some things > never change. > > Jack > > On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that > the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it > far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre > treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head > itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit > on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two > studs in place. And yes, I re use the ARP studs. > Phil Gott > ?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot > wrote: > > ? > > I re-use the ARP head studs. Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs > in my race engine. > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot > wrote: > > In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a > head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, > never had a bad coil............ > > Henry Morrison > > Sent from Outlook > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Triumphs on behalf of Greg > Lemon > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM > *To:* Cliff Hansen > *Cc:* list Triumph > *Subject:* Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and > never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, > MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. > > Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if > stretched it will bind. > > Greg Lemon, TR250 > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen > wrote: > > I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the > machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the > head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even > if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on > this, but am interested in yours. > > Thanks, > > Cliff > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 16:38:53 2021 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:38:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Now matter how the head gasket is oriented on the block, I also orient the head gasket on the head to make sure the gasket does not intrude into the combustion chamber, especially where the intake valve pocket is relieved. Sometimes it doesn't exactly match the arc on the cylinder liner. John Styduhar On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:21 PM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just > slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay > the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw > in easily. > The current replacements have all of the holes same size. > Glen Efinger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Wheeler via Fot > To: Phil Gott > Cc: FOT Triumph > Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > Hi Phil. I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim > head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago. 2 studs, head > gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared > with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with > Gaskacinch).. Worked then, sounds like it still works now. Some things > never change. > > Jack > > On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that > the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it > far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre > treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head > itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit > on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two > studs in place. And yes, I re use the ARP studs. > Phil Gott > ?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot > wrote: > > ? > > I re-use the ARP head studs. Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs > in my race engine. > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot > wrote: > > In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a > head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, > never had a bad coil............ > > Henry Morrison > > Sent from Outlook > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Triumphs on behalf of Greg > Lemon > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM > *To:* Cliff Hansen > *Cc:* list Triumph > *Subject:* Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and > never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, > MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. > > Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if > stretched it will bind. > > Greg Lemon, TR250 > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen > wrote: > > I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the > machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the > head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even > if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on > this, but am interested in yours. > > Thanks, > > Cliff > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Mar 10 16:47:54 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 23:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <594914399.7949.1615420074632@mail.yahoo.com> That's a good point and quite true, especially w/the new replacement gaskets, the holes are all big and the gasket can shuffle around, and as you also mentioned, the inlet valve relief area is especially critical.Glen -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar via Fot To: fubog1 Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 6:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? Now matter how the head gasket is oriented on the block, I also orient the head gasket on the head to make sure the gasket does not intrude into the combustion chamber, especially where the intake valve pocket is relieved.? Sometimes it doesn't exactly match the arc on the cylinder liner.John Styduhar? On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:21 PM fubog1 via Fot wrote: The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw in easily.The current replacements have all of the holes same size. Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Jack Wheeler via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: FOT Triumph Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? Hi Phil.? I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.? 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with Gaskacinch)..? Worked then, sounds like it still works now.? Some things never change. Jack On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place.? And yes, I re use the ARP studs.?Phil Gott?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: ? I re-use the ARP head studs.? Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.? Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from?Outlook From:?Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent:?Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To:?Cliff Hansen Cc:?list Triumph Subject:?Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs??I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.?Thanks,?Cliff??Sent from?Mail?for Windows 10?**?triumphs at autox.team.net?** Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs??http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://autox.team.net/archive?http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wife and Best friend for over 50 years.. She was a strong supporter of the Triumph Marque. Great Navigator in our early years. Membership Chairperson for Triumph Register of America for many years. Mid Ohio and Kas 2002..... Search "Susie Wood Householder Facebook" for a tribute to her -----------------------------------------From: "Styduhar, Daniel Lee" To: "Tom Householder" Cc: Sent: Thursday March 11 2021 10:05:50PM Subject: Dan and Livie want to extent to you our sincerest sympatyhies Tom, I am so saddened to hear of Suzie's passing. My wife and I wish to extend to you our sincerest condolences. I attended only a few of the TRA National meets but the ones we did attend, my wife and I enjoyed being in the company of the Register members and of course you and Suzie and the famous auctions. I was going through some pictures to upload to the FOT website and came across the attached picture. 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Wife and Best friend for over 50 years.. She was a strong supporter of the Triumph Marque. Great Navigator in our early years. Membership Chairperson for Triumph Register of America for many years. > > Mid Ohio and Kas 2002..... > > Search "Susie Wood Householder Facebook" for a tribute to her > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Styduhar, Daniel Lee" > To: "Tom Householder" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday March 11 2021 10:05:50PM > Subject: Dan and Livie want to extent to you our sincerest sympatyhies > > Tom, > > I am so saddened to hear of Suzie's passing. My wife and I wish to extend > to you our sincerest condolences. I attended only a few of the TRA > National meets but the ones we did attend, my wife and I enjoyed being > in the company of the Register members and of course you and Suzie and > the famous auctions. 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Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:33 PM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: > > ?Nice article, Phil! > Thanks, Mike. > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > >>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:09 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> From the SCCA NER newsletter >> >> https://www.pittalk.org/racing-life/have-fun-with-cars-and-family/ >> >> mike h >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Tue Mar 16 08:34:50 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 09:34:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] The Texas Endurance TR6 lives, kinda Message-ID: <1034636E-75C2-45D4-A62E-4AAF4D2F3C35@icloud.com> Folks, Quick note from Texas, full report later this week. We resurrected the Texas Endurance TR6 car for a run with Champcar at Harris Hill this past weekend. Lots of fun, great track, and great people. Car was running well for 6+ hours Saturday until the radiator let go and we broke a rocker arm. Not sure the progression of failure yet as there was one of the 4 newbies in the car at the time. He simply reported a miss and pulled into the pits. Lots of fun with this group. The reason for my email. I think you would really enjoy the coverage of the race that Champcar provides with commentary. They obviously loved to feature our car and team, sometimes as comic relief. All in fun. Enjoy it, I was rolling on the floor at some of their comments. https://youtu.be/5zRTBMbLylw Greg Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 06:12:44 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 08:12:44 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Jag block, anyone? References: <945AE2FE-9CBC-478B-9104-20C080F5DB05.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <945AE2FE-9CBC-478B-9104-20C080F5DB05@aol.com> ?Asking for a friend - Scott copied on this message. Anyone know where a friend can get an early XK Jag block? Sorry if this is not strictly TR related, but they were parts of the same company for a while, and I suspect some of us may own both... Thanks, Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 06:15:09 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 08:15:09 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves References: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC@aol.com> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From jaboruch at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 09:10:25 2021 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC@aol.com> References: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC.ref@aol.com> <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC@aol.com> Message-ID: <730842567.2042565.1615993825300@mail.yahoo.com> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 09:19:03 2021 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <730842567.2042565.1615993825300@mail.yahoo.com> References: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC.ref@aol.com> <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC@aol.com> <730842567.2042565.1615993825300@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> Phil,I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. Jake On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 10:02:51 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:02:51 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> References: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> Thanks, Erik and Joe; Good to know. I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: > > ? > Phil, > I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. > > Jake > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > > Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > > Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? > Phil Gott > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garygret at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 17 10:33:22 2021 From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> References: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> Message-ID: <256235614.2079096.1615998802101@mail.yahoo.com> That was my only experience with Grose jets too, even with a fuel pressure regulator set low. Seemed like a decent idea conceptually but didn't work well in practice. Possibly their comparatively large seating area makes the float pressure inadequate to hold off the fuel pressure?Gary On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:03:22 AM CDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Thanks, Erik and Joe;Good to know.I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again!Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: ? Phil,I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. Jake On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rek46 at aol.com Wed Mar 17 10:37:52 2021 From: rek46 at aol.com (rek46) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> References: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> Message-ID: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick?In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:? Thanks, Erik and Joe;Good to know.I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again!Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: ?Phil,I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem.?Jake?On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote:???Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB?On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote:??Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up?Phil Gott?Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net?http://www.fot-racing.com?Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com?????_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 12:22:47 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:22:47 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> References: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yup. Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. Thanks., Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: > > ? > NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick > > In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: > > Thanks, Erik and Joe; > Good to know. > I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: > > > Phil, > I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. > > Jake > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > > > Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > > Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? > Phil Gott > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Mar 17 13:16:39 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:16:39 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: References: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back.? Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). - Tony Drews On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > Yup. > Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot > points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first > tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the > fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 > psi and fore/aft floats works well. > Thanks., > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old >> style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a >> tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you >> having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?? You prob have >> each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both >> floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick >> In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> fot at autox.team.net writes: >> >> Thanks, Erik and Joe; >> Good to know. >> I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use >> those again! >> Phil >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen >> wrote: >> >> Phil, >> I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race >> cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, >> but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. >> Jake >> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via >> Fot wrote: >> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the >> spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I >> suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had >> issues. JoeB >> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via >> Fot wrote: >> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have >> the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the >> float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? >> Phil Gott >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 13:22:09 2021 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: References: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2012695568.1543417.1616008929455@mail.yahoo.com> Tony,Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot.? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back.? Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). - Tony Drews On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Yup. Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. Thanks., Phil? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: ? NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick ? In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: ? Thanks, Erik and Joe; Good to know. I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: ? Phil, I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. ? Jake ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: ? ? ? Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? ? Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott ? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net ? http://www.fot-racing.com ? 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URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 15:54:48 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 17:54:48 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <2012695568.1543417.1616008929455@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2012695568.1543417.1616008929455@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3ED39F88-0DDB-4750-93D0-A5EC829DE307@aol.com> Thanks, everyone! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: > > ? > Tony, > Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot. > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > > > With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. > > Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). > > - Tony Drews > > On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > Yup. > Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. > Thanks., > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick >> >> In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: >> >> Thanks, Erik and Joe; >> Good to know. >> I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! >> Phil >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: >> >> >> Phil, >> I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. >> >> Jake >> >> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: >> >> >> >> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB >> >> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? >> Phil Gott >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stutztr4 at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 13:36:54 2021 From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 15:36:54 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <3ED39F88-0DDB-4750-93D0-A5EC829DE307@aol.com> References: <2012695568.1543417.1616008929455@mail.yahoo.com> <3ED39F88-0DDB-4750-93D0-A5EC829DE307@aol.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately I don't remember which, but Joe Curto specifies solid needles for certain SUs and spring loaded for others. Bruce Stutzman On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:58 PM Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > Thanks, everyone! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot > wrote: > > ? > Tony, > Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny > compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot. > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the > front and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness > after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. > > Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel > pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than > we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). > > - Tony Drews > On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > Yup. > Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot > points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to > overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, > which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft > floats works well. > Thanks., > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot > wrote: > > ? > NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style > floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your > float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. > probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward > center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. > or back)....rick > > In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, > fot at autox.team.net writes: > > > Thanks, Erik and Joe; > Good to know. > I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those > again! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen > wrote: > > > Phil, > I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't > had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race > car, I still haven't had a problem. > > Jake > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot > wrote: > > > > Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded > ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and > others had said that they had issues. JoeB > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot > wrote: > > > Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring > loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one > better, worse, or require different set up? > Phil Gott > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutztr4 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Thu Mar 18 17:27:43 2021 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 19:27:43 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1616110063.dcsad0liwwg08gw8@webmail.lumos.net> I have used Total Seal piston rings many times, and that is my "go to" piston ring. John ? On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:25:43 -0700, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: ? Hello Amici, ? A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. ? He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. ? Can any of you share your ring choices? ? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. ? I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? ? Your thoughts are appreciated! Brad Eells Chino CA #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 17:31:14 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:31:14 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2A60C39F-CFBA-4F0B-9CB0-911B7BDC8B6C@gmail.com> Just go with what JE recommends. Thanks, Chuck > On Mar 18, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ? > Hello Amici, > > A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. > > He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. > > Can any of you share your ring choices? > > I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. > > I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? > > Your thoughts are appreciated! > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Mar 18 18:04:26 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 19:04:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: <2A60C39F-CFBA-4F0B-9CB0-911B7BDC8B6C@gmail.com> References: <2A60C39F-CFBA-4F0B-9CB0-911B7BDC8B6C@gmail.com> Message-ID: I agree with Chuck on this. Someone should communicate with JE about how you are building the motor and how you will run the car. Their engineering/technical department will help with ring recommendations. There knowledge and experience should be most helpful. We do this Wiseco every time we work on a piston design with them. It always turns out well. We defer to them on wrist pin recommendations also. We have found that they have learned a lot about this stuff over the years Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Just go with what JE recommends. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Hello Amici, >> >> A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. >> >> He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. >> >> Can any of you share your ring choices? >> >> I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. >> >> I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? >> >> Your thoughts are appreciated! >> Brad Eells >> Chino CA >> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 18:24:42 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:24:42 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?I agree with Chuck on this.? That?s what I like to hear! Paul is my new best friend. Thanks, Chuck > On Mar 18, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > I agree with Chuck on this. From vfracing at aol.com Thu Mar 18 19:38:52 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 21:38:52 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7A23C14F-B9AF-41CF-AE65-DB6C4FB64403@aol.com> Yes. I don?t really understand why the little spring is used, which is why I asked. Joe told me the same thing but not why.... Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Bruce Stutzman wrote: > > ? > Unfortunately I don't remember which, but Joe Curto specifies solid needles for certain SUs and spring loaded for others. > Bruce Stutzman > >> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:58 PM Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >> Thanks, everyone! >> Phil >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: >>>> >>> ? >>> Tony, >>> Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot. >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. >>> >>> Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). >>> >>> - Tony Drews >>> >>> On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>> >>> Yup. >>> Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. >>> Thanks., >>> Phil >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: >>>> >>>> Thanks, Erik and Joe; >>>> Good to know. >>>> I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Phil, >>>> I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. >>>> >>>> Jake >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? >>>> Phil Gott >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutztr4 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 19:44:31 2021 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 01:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <650798012.2788999.1616118271408@mail.yahoo.com> I would not recommend rings patterned from the factory GT6 pistons.? Ring technology has changed significantly since the GT6 was developed.? As others suggested talk to JE or Total Seal.? I have heard mixed results with the gapless rings, so you may want to stay away from those.? JoeB On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 07:26:46 PM EDT, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: Hello Amici, A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. Can any of you share your ring choices? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? Your thoughts are appreciated! Brad EellsChino CA#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR41965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Thu Mar 18 20:39:05 2021 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 12:39:05 +1000 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: if JE are making pistons, surely they will supply rings??? In general, ring & piston design has improved a lot in recent decades in most cases, you will head for a nitrided steel top ring, a steel centre ring (possibly filled with something) and a 3-piece segmented oil ring in many cases, they can now make a perfectly satisfactory top and second ring at or under 1mm in thickness. Generally, the thinner it is, the lower the friction but really thin rings require super careful honing and bed-in best practise is to not have any slots behind the oil ring, but rather a ring of small holes some piston makers have all sorts of clever micro 'tricks" like anti-flutter grooves they machine in the lands between the rings Whomever supplies the rings will specify the final hone finish required best practise is to use double "spiro-locks" to retain the gudgeon pin Terry Australia On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:26 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > Hello Amici, > > A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston > ring selection. > > He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look > at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. > > Can any of you share your ring choices? > > I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. > > I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from > the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? > > Your thoughts are appreciated! > *Brad Eells* > *Chino CA* > *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* > *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* > *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 20:48:12 2021 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 02:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <306168871.1905220.1616122092367@mail.yahoo.com> I always ran Total Seal rings in my Pinto and Celica race engines, never had a failure? I also used special made teflon buttons to center the wrist pins, again, never an issue from them - clips of any kind can and do fail (had 1 failure) like so many things we try/do with our engines we all find things that work for us - usually they work for others but, sometimes not remember the key, "any significantly advanced technology is totally indistinguishable from magic" Cheers all,Ralph On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 09:36:45 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: if JE are making pistons, surely they will supply rings??? In general, ring & piston design has improved a lot in recent decades in most cases, you will head for a nitrided steel top ring, a steel centre ring (possibly filled with something) and a 3-piece segmented oil ring in many cases, they can now make a perfectly satisfactory top and second ring at or under 1mm in thickness. Generally, the thinner it is, the lower the friction but really thin rings require super careful honing and bed-in best practise is to not have any slots behind the oil ring, but rather?a ring of small holes? some piston makers have all sorts of clever micro 'tricks" like anti-flutter grooves they machine in the lands between the rings Whomever supplies the rings will specify the final hone finish required best practise is to use double "spiro-locks" to retain the gudgeon pin TerryAustralia On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:26 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: Hello Amici, A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. Can any of you share your ring choices? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? Your thoughts are appreciated! Brad EellsChino CA#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR41965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Fri Mar 19 02:47:46 2021 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:47:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <7A23C14F-B9AF-41CF-AE65-DB6C4FB64403@aol.com> References: <7A23C14F-B9AF-41CF-AE65-DB6C4FB64403@aol.com> Message-ID: <1272092035.27266153.1616143666228.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Maybe the spring is there to even out the pressure on the needle/valve seat surface when the fuel is agitating on the float . In doing so the plastic end on the needle doesn't wear out but higher fuel pressure can easily lift the needle off the seat. I believe this is useful for a road car but not for a race car. Marcel. Van: "fot" Aan: "Bruce Stutzman" Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 02:38:52 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Float needle valves Yes. I don?t really understand why the little spring is used, which is why I asked. Joe told me the same thing but not why.... Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Bruce Stutzman wrote: BQ_BEGIN Unfortunately I don't remember which, but Joe Curto specifies solid needles for certain SUs and spring loaded for others. Bruce Stutzman On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:58 PM Phil Gott via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: BQ_BEGIN Thanks, everyone! Phil Sent from my iPhone BQ_BEGIN On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: BQ_END BQ_BEGIN Tony, Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot. On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). - Tony Drews On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: BQ_BEGIN BQ_END Yup. Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. Thanks., Phil Sent from my iPhone BQ_BEGIN On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | ] wrote: BQ_END BQ_BEGIN NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] writes: BQ_BEGIN Thanks, Erik and Joe; Good to know. I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! Phil Sent from my iPhone BQ_BEGIN On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen [ mailto:kekjacobsen at yahoo.com | ] wrote: BQ_END BQ_BEGIN Phil, I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. Jake On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | ] wrote: Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | ] wrote: Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? 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URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Fri Mar 19 02:59:13 2021 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:59:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: <306168871.1905220.1616122092367@mail.yahoo.com> References: <306168871.1905220.1616122092367@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50927886.27298270.1616144353564.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> JE Pistons are owning Pro Seal piston rings and gaskets, and maybe one can buy JE Pistons fitted with this brand of rings. On the Pro Seal website, you can find information about the ring services that JE Pistons is offering. PS :Total Seal is a misleading name : most of their rings are NOT gapless. Marcel. Van: "fot" Aan: "Brad Eells" , "Enquiries Road, Track" Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 03:48:12 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings I always ran Total Seal rings in my Pinto and Celica race engines, never had a failure I also used special made teflon buttons to center the wrist pins, again, never an issue from them - clips of any kind can and do fail (had 1 failure) like so many things we try/do with our engines we all find things that work for us - usually they work for others but, sometimes not remember the key, "any significantly advanced technology is totally indistinguishable from magic" Cheers all, Ralph On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 09:36:45 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: if JE are making pistons, surely they will supply rings??? In general, ring & piston design has improved a lot in recent decades in most cases, you will head for a nitrided steel top ring, a steel centre ring (possibly filled with something) and a 3-piece segmented oil ring in many cases, they can now make a perfectly satisfactory top and second ring at or under 1mm in thickness. Generally, the thinner it is, the lower the friction but really thin rings require super careful honing and bed-in best practise is to not have any slots behind the oil ring, but rather a ring of small holes some piston makers have all sorts of clever micro 'tricks" like anti-flutter grooves they machine in the lands between the rings Whomever supplies the rings will specify the final hone finish required best practise is to use double "spiro-locks" to retain the gudgeon pin Terry Australia On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:26 AM Brad Eells via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: Hello Amici, A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. Can any of you share your ring choices? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? Your thoughts are appreciated! Brad Eells Chino CA #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage ] : [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au ] _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com ] _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Mar 19 04:24:40 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <1272092035.27266153.1616143666228.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <7A23C14F-B9AF-41CF-AE65-DB6C4FB64403@aol.com> <1272092035.27266153.1616143666228.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <821531201.1935506.1616149480170@mail.yahoo.com> Marcel;Yes, that could be. ?I wonder of the viton valve seat needs this, as there are some viton tipped needles out there with no spring in them. ? Just curious at this point. Seems like nothing to worry about for a race car... Thanks again,Phil -----Original Message----- From: van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 19, 2021 4:50 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Float needle valves Maybe? the spring is there to even out the pressure on the needle/valve seat surface when the fuel is agitating on the float . In doing so the plastic end on the needle doesn't wear out but higher fuel pressure can easily lift the needle off the seat. I believe this is useful for a road car but not for a race car.Marcel. Van: "fot" Aan: "Bruce Stutzman" Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 02:38:52 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Float needle valves Yes. I don?t really understand why the little spring is used, which is why I asked. Joe told me the same thing but not why....Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Bruce Stutzman wrote: Unfortunately?I don't remember which, but Joe Curto specifies solid needles for certain SUs and spring loaded for others.Bruce Stutzman On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:58 PM Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Thanks, everyone!Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: Tony,Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot.? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back.? Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). - Tony Drews On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Yup. Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. Thanks., Phil? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick ? In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: ? Thanks, Erik and Joe; Good to know. I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: ? Phil, I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. ? Jake ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: ? ? ? Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? ? Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott ? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net ? http://www.fot-racing.com ? 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URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Mar 19 04:40:59 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: <50927886.27298270.1616144353564.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <306168871.1905220.1616122092367@mail.yahoo.com> <50927886.27298270.1616144353564.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <1018195328.1936228.1616150459260@mail.yahoo.com> Piston ring flutter is a hard to detect phenomenon that will allow a lot of pressure loss into the crankcase. Rings that are too thin will tend to flutter due to less spring pressure. ?The higher the piston speeds as in the wet sleeve TR engine, the more likely flutter is to occur. ? I'm not sure about the Spitfire engine (too lazy to do the math before coffee) but if you choose thin rings such as those used in the Total Seal set up, the more likely you are to get flutter. The Total Seal solution uses two half-height rings with the gap oriented 180 degrees from each other. ?IMHO this is asking for flutter. Having said that, when they work they work well. We used them successfully in a 948 Sprite and a 1.8 liter Integra. Phil Gott -----Original Message----- From: van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot To: ralph hansen ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 19, 2021 5:05 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings JE Pistons are owning Pro Seal piston rings and gaskets, and maybe one can buy JE Pistons fitted with this brand of rings. On the Pro Seal website, you can find information about the ring services that JE Pistons is offering. PS :Total Seal is a misleading name : most of their rings are NOT gapless.Marcel. Van: "fot" Aan: "Brad Eells" , "Enquiries Road, Track" Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 03:48:12 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings I always ran Total Seal rings in my Pinto and Celica race engines, never had a failure? I also used special made teflon buttons to center the wrist pins, again, never an issue from them - clips of any kind can and do fail (had 1 failure) like so many things we try/do with our engines we all find things that work for us - usually they work for others but, sometimes not remember the key, "any significantly advanced technology is totally indistinguishable from magic" Cheers all,Ralph On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 09:36:45 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: if JE are making pistons, surely they will supply rings??? In general, ring & piston design has improved a lot in recent decades in most cases, you will head for a nitrided steel top ring, a steel centre ring (possibly filled with something) and a 3-piece segmented oil ring in many cases, they can now make a perfectly satisfactory top and second ring at or under 1mm in thickness. Generally, the thinner it is, the lower the friction but really thin rings require super careful honing and bed-in best practise is to not have any slots behind the oil ring, but rather?a ring of small holes? some piston makers have all sorts of clever micro 'tricks" like anti-flutter grooves they machine in the lands between the rings Whomever supplies the rings will specify the final hone finish required best practise is to use double "spiro-locks" to retain the gudgeon pin TerryAustralia On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:26 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: Hello Amici, A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. Can any of you share your ring choices? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? Your thoughts are appreciated! 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URL: From lunkercars at yahoo.com Fri Mar 19 16:40:10 2021 From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:40:10 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine In-Reply-To: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> References: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <644494D3-BBA1-492F-BB54-46949D1B1C2E@yahoo.com> Hey Tim, Happy belated 3/17! There?s a guy named Kas (can?t remember the last name) that did some dyno tuning awhile back - he even wrote a book or two about it?. But in all seriousness, I?ve done mine by the (Comp Prep Manual) book. Base and total is easy but it takes a bunch of fiddling to get the ?Kas curve?. Has worked great but I?ll admit that I?ve never gone beyond that. Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer Albuquerque NM > On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:27 PM, timmmurphh--- via Fot wrote: > > What advance curve are folks using in their race engines? I have 87mm pistons, a Kastner G3 cam and about a 12:1 compression ratio. I am using about 19 degrees advance at idle (no centrifugal advance) and 30 degrees advance at 3000 RPM. I don?t know what I have at higher RPM?s because I never looked. I?m currently doing an engine rebuild so I will have to look what I?ve got at the higher RPM?s when I get the engine running. I?m curious as to what others are using and if anyone has done any testing on a dyno with different advance curves. > > Thanks in advance for your input. > > Tim Murphy > #317 BRG TR4 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lunkercars at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Mar 19 16:45:40 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 18:45:40 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine In-Reply-To: <644494D3-BBA1-492F-BB54-46949D1B1C2E@yahoo.com> References: <644494D3-BBA1-492F-BB54-46949D1B1C2E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5CF86C98-262E-425F-9B70-5136226CD4DD@aol.com> The Advance curve is all done at about 3000 rpm. 30 degrees total advance is about right. Will depend on your particular engine, but might be best to back off 2-4 degrees. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2021, at 6:41 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot wrote: > > ? > Hey Tim, > Happy belated 3/17! > There?s a guy named Kas (can?t remember the last name) that did some dyno tuning awhile back - he even wrote a book or two about it?. > But in all seriousness, I?ve done mine by the (Comp Prep Manual) book. Base and total is easy but it takes a bunch of fiddling to get the ?Kas curve?. Has worked great but I?ll admit that I?ve never gone beyond that. > Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer > Albuquerque NM > >> On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:27 PM, timmmurphh--- via Fot wrote: >> >> What advance curve are folks using in their race engines? I have 87mm pistons, a Kastner G3 cam and about a 12:1 compression ratio. I am using about 19 degrees advance at idle (no centrifugal advance) and 30 degrees advance at 3000 RPM. I don?t know what I have at higher RPM?s because I never looked. I?m currently doing an engine rebuild so I will have to look what I?ve got at the higher RPM?s when I get the engine running. I?m curious as to what others are using and if anyone has done any testing on a dyno with different advance curves. >> >> Thanks in advance for your input. >> >> Tim Murphy >> #317 BRG TR4 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lunkercars at yahoo.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Fri Mar 19 16:53:55 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:53:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine In-Reply-To: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> References: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a1bf8a9-c9da-f0d8-6f8d-38f146cc9112@tonydrews.com> When I had crank fire ignition I did test it on the dyno and found that a slight retard as RPM's went up helped (at least that's how I remember it - up to 34 / 35 at 3000 rpm but down to 32 at 6000).? But with my more vintage points system, the advance is "all in" at 3000 rpm.? I just set to 30 degrees or 32 degrees or if I'm feeling particularly lucky / brave / stupid 34 degrees at max.? Whatever it ends up at low rpm is where it ends up.? When racing I'm never under 3000 RPM anyway. Regards, Tony On 3/19/2021 5:27 PM, timmmurphh--- via Fot wrote: > > What advance curve are folks using in their race engines? I have 87mm > pistons, a Kastner G3 cam and about a 12:1 compression ratio. I am > using about 19 degrees advance at idle (no centrifugal advance) and 30 > degrees advance at 3000 RPM.? I don?t know what I have at higher RPM?s > because I never looked. I?m currently doing an engine rebuild so I > will have to look what I?ve got at the higher RPM?s when I get the > engine running. I?m curious as to what others are using and if anyone > has done any testing on a dyno with different advance curves. > > Thanks in advance for your input. > > Tim Murphy > > #317 BRG TR4 > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Sat Mar 20 04:07:52 2021 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 11:07:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine In-Reply-To: <4a1bf8a9-c9da-f0d8-6f8d-38f146cc9112@tonydrews.com> References: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> <4a1bf8a9-c9da-f0d8-6f8d-38f146cc9112@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <1740119188.30733160.1616234872404.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Without the possibility of computer ignition mapping, the most important thing is the maximum total advance. This can start from 3000rpm or higher, depending on the distributor springs. 2 degrees is already making a significant difference for horsepower. On a dyno one can find at what advance the engine is making the best power, but it is all important to find out if the power is not dropping after 20 or 30 seconds (detonation). And the the circumstances on a race week-end can be different : if one is arriving at 30? during a dyno session, it is possible that only 28? is safe on a particular day. Total maximum advance can differ considerably (compression ratio,...). I believe that a fresh engine tends to pre-ignition more easily because of glowing spots : protruding headgasket(wich should be avoided of course), sharp machining edges...In an older engine the surfaces of the combustion chambers will be smoother Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 23:53:55 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine When I had crank fire ignition I did test it on the dyno and found that a slight retard as RPM's went up helped (at least that's how I remember it - up to 34 / 35 at 3000 rpm but down to 32 at 6000). But with my more vintage points system, the advance is "all in" at 3000 rpm. I just set to 30 degrees or 32 degrees or if I'm feeling particularly lucky / brave / stupid 34 degrees at max. Whatever it ends up at low rpm is where it ends up. When racing I'm never under 3000 RPM anyway. Regards, Tony On 3/19/2021 5:27 PM, timmmurphh--- via Fot wrote: What advance curve are folks using in their race engines? I have 87mm pistons, a Kastner G3 cam and about a 12:1 compression ratio. I am using about 19 degrees advance at idle (no centrifugal advance) and 30 degrees advance at 3000 RPM. I don?t know what I have at higher RPM?s because I never looked. I?m currently doing an engine rebuild so I will have to look what I?ve got at the higher RPM?s when I get the engine running. I?m curious as to what others are using and if anyone has done any testing on a dyno with different advance curves. Thanks in advance for your input. 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Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053 704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f) mhc-law.com | jhasty at mhc-law.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by a law firm on a legal matter. It may contain information that is confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message, any part of it, or any attachments. If you have received this message in error, please delete this message and any attachments from your system without reading the content and notify the sender immediately of the inadvertent transmission. There is no intent on the part of the sender to waive any privilege, including the attorney-client privilege, that may attach to this communication. Thank you for your cooperation. 11 U.S.C. 528(a)(4) NOTICE. 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I built a very nice TR-3B when I retired from active racing in the late 90's.? Phil Bradbury (who now lives just down the road from me..,. go figure) bought the car from me and raced it for a number of years.? He asked me to co-drive with him in an enduro at Mid-Ohio few years later.? I know Phil traded the car for a race Camaro, but I'm not sure what happened to it after that.? I've never seen it race since.? Does anyone on the list know where my old TR-3B is these days?? It was British Racing Green and had a full cage in it.? If anyone has info as to it's whereabouts, please let me or John know.? The last I knew, it was in the Southeast somewhere. Jack On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 1:53:20 PM EDT, John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph.? Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured.? It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH.? I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes.? The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it.? I am now in the market for another 3 or 4.? If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know.? Cheers! | | ? John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053 704.864.6751?(p)?704.861.8394?(f) mhc-law.com?|?jhasty at mhc-law.com ? ? | CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by a law firm on a legal matter. It may contain information that is confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. 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M?rz 2021 18:52 An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] TR3A #116 I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. 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Hasty via Fot Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:51 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR3A #116 I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. 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M?rz 2021 18:52 An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] TR3A #116 I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., PO. 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URL: From paulricco at att.net Sun Mar 21 15:40:59 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:40:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3A #116 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C035C19-25AB-4F44-9955-5EDF0A3C72D0@att.net> John, I am very sorry to hear about your car. I am glad to hear that you are OK. If I run across anything, I will email you. I do believe that there are a couple of race TR4?s list on www.race-cars.com I do not know anything about either one from personal experience. If you find something in the midwest, I may be heading to North Carolina with my trailer to pick something up. I will be pretty empty headed that way. I could help get something most of the way to you from this area. Good luck finding a car. Again, sorry to hear about your yellow TR3B. I thought is was a very cool car when I saw it Watkins. Paul Ricco (813) 716-1931 > On Mar 21, 2021, at 12:51 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: > > I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney at Law > Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. > 301 S. York St., > P.O. 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Hasty via Fot wrote: > > ? > I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney at Law > Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. > 301 S. York St., > P.O. 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We help people file for bankruptcy relief under the federal Bankruptcy Code. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 21 16:23:05 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 22:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR3A #116 In-Reply-To: <003c01d71e93$1a35d3c0$4ea17b40$@rogers.com> References: <001001d71e8a$b3037f70$190a7e50$@gmail.com> <003c01d71e93$1a35d3c0$4ea17b40$@rogers.com> Message-ID: <388041610.1284906.1616365385644@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Paul.? That was my car at one time.? I bought it from Jerry Pierce (Anderson, IN) shortly before he died way too young.? It was a right hand drive car at that time.? Jerry also had a 1962 TR-4 (CT-311), which he bought new and drove it to the races.? He had a picture of the car racing at Watkins Glen in the early 60's.? He wanted to go faster, so he bought a "prepared" race car and campaigned it through the 70's.? I raced against him a number of times at IRP, from 1974 on.? After I crashed my car at The Runoffs in 1993, Jerry contacted me to see if I would be interested in buying both of his cars and lots of parts.? He was planning his estate (sadly).? He had last raced the 37 car sometime in the late 70's, brought the car home after the race and parked it in his basement.? That's where it sat, until I purchased it in 1994. I was in the process of rebuilding my race car, and his car was just too original to mess it up according to SCCA rules at the time.? So, I went through it mechanically, left the number 37 on it and sold it to Chip Bond.? The rest, I guess is known history to this group.? The ad brought back some fond memories.? Thanks. Regards, Jack On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 4:46:27 PM EDT, Paul MacDonald via Fot wrote: http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/triumph/1591709749/1591709749ss.htm ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hasty via Fot > *Sent:* Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:51 PM > *To:* fot at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Fot] TR3A #116 > > > I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at > Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on > the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not > injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the > NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the > three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to > avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver > claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed > the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another > 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! > > > > *John H. Hasty* > > *Attorney at Law* > > *Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A.* > > 301 S. York St., > > P.O. Box 488 > > Gastonia, NC 28053 > > 704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f) > > mhc-law.com | jhasty at mhc-law.com > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by > a law firm on a legal matter. It may contain information that is > confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate > this message, any part of it, or any attachments. If you have received this > message in error, please delete this message and any attachments from your > system without reading the content and notify the sender immediately of the > inadvertent transmission. There is no intent on the part of the sender to > waive any privilege, including the attorney-client privilege, that may > attach to this communication. Thank you for your cooperation. 11 U.S.C. > 528(a)(4) NOTICE. We are a debt relief agency. 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On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:45:14 -0400, Paul MacDonald via Fot wrote: ? http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/triumph/1591709749/1591709749ss.htm ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sun Mar 21 21:33:14 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 22:33:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3A #116 In-Reply-To: <1616379534.byft2y54748oog0s@webmail.lumos.net> References: <1616379534.byft2y54748oog0s@webmail.lumos.net> Message-ID: <98C9391D-CF7A-4FFC-B0C9-BFF0D4C1B28B@gmail.com> Yup. That was it. John says, ?I know someone that can make the listhappen?. Enter stage left, Mark Bradakis. And this happened at Mid-Ohio while those guys were fabricating an adjustable camber front suspension. The rest is history. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:19 PM, R. John Lye via Fot wrote: > > ? > Wow, I knew that car very well back in the day. It was while Chip was racing it at > Mid-Ohio that Joe Alexander and I first talked about what eventually became the > FOT. Lots of stories and memories associated with that car. > > John > > > On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:45:14 -0400, Paul MacDonald via Fot wrote: > > http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/triumph/1591709749/1591709749ss.htm > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The link is to a video, onboard of the car of Vanderwal (MGB) Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Woensdag 24 maart 2021 18:23:40 Onderwerp: [Fot] TR3A Does anyone know if John Fedderouche (SP) sold his purple TR3 or have his contact info.?? John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053 704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f) [ http://mhc-law.com/ | mhc-law.com ] | [ mailto:akisby-meadows at mhc-law.com | jhasty at mhc-law.com ] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by a law firm on a legal matter. It may contain information that is confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message, any part of it, or any attachments. 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We help people file for bankruptcy relief under the federal Bankruptcy Code. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Mar 28 09:54:50 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:54:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. References: Message-ID: Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, according to Robert Goldman. The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, Erik. I am pleased. Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 106936 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Mar 28 10:13:07 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:13:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C7FCB3A-BB32-4601-92F0-4BCBA6014547@cs.com> This was meant for Kas. I don?t know how it ended up going to the FOT. My apologies. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Fred and Mary Hodgson wrote: > > ? > Congrats on becoming a great grandpa Joe! > > Fred Hodgson > > From: Fot on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 9:54 AM > To: Kas Kastner ; FOT > Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. > > Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. > > In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, according to Robert Goldman. > > The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. > > Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. > > The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. > > There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, Erik. I am pleased. > > Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. > > > In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. > > > > > The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stlnyc at msn.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 10:16:02 2021 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:16:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Big, big congratulations, GG Joe!!! It seems you have developed a worthy empire. You must be as proud as you are thrilled. The Alexander empire has to be ecstatic to have such a great pacesetter as their commander. You are truly an icon! I wish I could make the HOF event but our move, the Kastner Cup, and VTR2021 have all of my vacation hours spoken for. Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" On Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 10:56 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. > > In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, > according to Robert Goldman. > > The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation > in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing > issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with > unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. > > Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start > to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of > your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. > > The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to > Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know > the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a > contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. > > There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, > Erik. I am pleased. > > Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and > order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. > But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. > > > In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. > > > > The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Mar 28 10:22:29 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:22:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06961E79-0C54-4C15-B68B-7754B406C172@cs.com> Thanks Shawn. The HOF thing has essentially been cancelled. Covid and other complications. We are going to do a piece of it at PIR and again at the VTR convention. It falls nicely into place for you. We should talk. Lots going on. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Shawn Frank via Fot wrote: > > ? > Big, big congratulations, GG Joe!!! > > It seems you have developed a worthy empire. You must be as proud as you are thrilled. The Alexander empire has to be ecstatic to have such a great pacesetter as their commander. You are truly an icon! > > I wish I could make the HOF event but our move, the Kastner Cup, and VTR2021 have all of my vacation hours spoken for. > > Shawn Frank > The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor > North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner > Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead > Continued Legacy Photo - Owner > Iowa British Car Club > FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 > Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver > 515-339-4228 > > > '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" > '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 > '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" > >> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 10:56 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. >> >> In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, according to Robert Goldman. >> >> The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. >> >> Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. >> >> The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. >> >> There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, Erik. I am pleased. >> >> Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. >> >> >> In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. >> >> >> >> The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 10:25:17 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:25:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. In-Reply-To: <06961E79-0C54-4C15-B68B-7754B406C172@cs.com> References: <06961E79-0C54-4C15-B68B-7754B406C172@cs.com> Message-ID: <3798FA4D-8DB1-4BB0-B804-BC5E67F27385@gmail.com> I did it again....should have just gone to Shawn. I will quit sending messages. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:23 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Thanks Shawn. > > The HOF thing has essentially been cancelled. Covid and other complications. > > We are going to do a piece of it at PIR and again at the VTR convention. It falls nicely into place for you. We should talk. Lots going on. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >>> On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Shawn Frank via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Big, big congratulations, GG Joe!!! >> >> It seems you have developed a worthy empire. You must be as proud as you are thrilled. The Alexander empire has to be ecstatic to have such a great pacesetter as their commander. You are truly an icon! >> >> I wish I could make the HOF event but our move, the Kastner Cup, and VTR2021 have all of my vacation hours spoken for. >> >> Shawn Frank >> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor >> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner >> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead >> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner >> Iowa British Car Club >> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 >> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver >> 515-339-4228 >> >> >> '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" >> '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 >> '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" >> >>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 10:56 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. >>> >>> In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, according to Robert Goldman. >>> >>> The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. >>> >>> Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. >>> >>> The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. >>> >>> There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, Erik. I am pleased. >>> >>> Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. >>> >>> >>> In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. >>> >>> >>> >>> The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the past we've set up outside turn 2 in the grassy area.? Thanks for doing the Chief Stewart gig! Regards, Tony Drews (Tr-4 #95) On 3/28/2021 1:30 PM, Doug Mitchell via Fot wrote: > Amici, > We're about 5 weeks out from Spring?Brake, just wondering how many of > you are attending? If you are, I'll be there, hopefully set up near > the tech shed/timing building. Look for an Avenger travel trailer and > a dark red (looks black) F150. I'm not racing, but I am the Chief > Steward. Please stop by and say hi. Just so long as it isn't an > official visit. > > Stay safe, > Doug Mitchell > dbm.spitfire at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cudapilot at comcast.net Sun Mar 28 14:53:42 2021 From: cudapilot at comcast.net (Brian Garcia) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 15:53:42 -0500 Subject: [Fot] VSCDA Spring Brake In-Reply-To: <6d20d716-a708-c14e-b2d0-fd1cba9b68e1@tonydrews.com> References: <6d20d716-a708-c14e-b2d0-fd1cba9b68e1@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <78735470-F4D6-4A76-AE2B-C487D5F9350D@comcast.net> I?ll be there with the Barracuda. Brian Garcia Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 28, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > > ? > I'll be there, I think Murphys are planning to come too. In the past we've set up outside turn 2 in the grassy area. Thanks for doing the Chief Stewart gig! > > Regards, Tony Drews (Tr-4 #95) > > On 3/28/2021 1:30 PM, Doug Mitchell via Fot wrote: >> Amici, >> We're about 5 weeks out from Spring Brake, just wondering how many of you are attending? If you are, I'll be there, hopefully set up near the tech shed/timing building. Look for an Avenger travel trailer and a dark red (looks black) F150. I'm not racing, but I am the Chief Steward. Please stop by and say hi. 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There were several people that attended that influenced them to join the vintage racing scene. The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on that event. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: ? I was there as well. That was when I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA. Charles Runyan had asked me to bring my car over and put it on display at The Roadster Factory tent. I think TRF helped sponsor the event. I towed my car over with my race van and brought my Harley along in the back of the van. Once I dropped the race car off at the TRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent the rest of the weekend riding around on my Harley. Great fun. Great memories. Jack On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot wrote: I was there, as a spectator. 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URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Mon Mar 1 11:03:24 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 18:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1321506305.638117.1614621804278@mail.yahoo.com> Yeah I'm going to agree, out of all of the hundreds of races that I've been to in some capacity or other, Mid-O '92 Vintage pretty much stands at the top of the list, the TR force was STRONG that weekend!!!(It was especially quite an adventure hauling up from south florida in my (still) daily-driver 66SWB Land Rover, 3 days up, 2 1/2 back including rigging-up a split trailer tongue patch)It's good to see that many of us are still around, sad that a few aren't, but that the FOT is very much alive & well, thanks to all who make it all happen! Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: T. R. Householder via Fot To: 'Joe Alexander' ; 'fot at autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio I was approached to look into this in 1990 and insisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 year comparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers on board Sue Harsh was a great help ?Tom Mahoney and COCTRA came own board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were great promoters ?Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd . Greatest event in history MHO! -----------------------------------------From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" To: "Jack Wheeler" Cc: "FOT Triumph" Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to get serious creditfor this. There were several people that attended that influenced themto join the vintage racing scene. The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on that event.? Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Jack Wheelervia Fot wrote: ?I was there as well.? Thatwas when I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA.? Charles Runyanhad asked me to bring my car over and put it on display at TheRoadster Factory tent.? I think TRF helped sponsor theevent.? I towed my car over with my race van and brought myHarley along in the back of the van.? Once I dropped the racecar off at the TRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent therest of the weekend riding around on my Harley.? Greatfun.? Great memories. Jack On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST, Terry Stetlervia Fot wrote: I was there, as aspectator.? If you look real carefully, you can see me in myBRG TR3 with Revolution wheels and only front over riders (nobumper) pulling out on track for the parade laps.As we were waiting togo on track, Bob Tullius walked by and said he liked how I had mycar set up!?Good times.?Terry StetlerSent from Mail for Windows 10?From: yellow04 via Fot Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 10:24 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio?A while back we had a discussion about the1992 Mid-Ohio event, and folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared somevideo he took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us abunch of pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. ThanksDan! 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URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Mon Mar 1 11:36:09 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 12:36:09 -0600 Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio In-Reply-To: <8a1536064923c10dc5b592e206736dfc@tr4racer.com> References: <8a1536064923c10dc5b592e206736dfc@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: I missed the 1992 Mid Ohio event, even though my current TR4 did not. Although I've had a TR6 since 1977, I didn't get involved with any clubs until the 1989 VTR National was held in Texas. I wasn't able to go to the National, but the knowledge that there was a chapter in Houston, DFW and San Antonio gave me the impetus to get the Hill Country Triumph Cub started. The club started fast and we met many like minded people at the Texas Regional in New Braunfels in 1990. I started autocrossing the TR6 and the wick was lit. In 1991 we towed my daily driver (3 kids) TR6 to Savannah GA for the VTR National. The host club GTA arranged for the autocross event to be held at Roebling Road. I had fun doing the autocross but the real fun happened on the way back to the front straight to line up again. Triumph race cars were everywhere because the event included what I remember as a race car onlySolo track event over the weekend. As a TR6 guy I spent some time talking to JK Jackson who had brought along a troupe of TR6 racers. It was a long time ago but I think Bill Dentinger was there, and Glen Efinger, and probably a lot more FoT than I knew. That event served to get the candle kept burning for me. Bob Kramer On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 9:24 AM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > A while back we had a discussion about the 1992 Mid-Ohio event, and > folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared some video he > took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us a bunch of > pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. Thanks Dan! > > All great stuff and it's on the event's page: > > https://fot-racing.com/fot-feature-events/mid-ohio-1992/ > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grandwazoo at earthlink.net Mon Mar 1 11:53:30 2021 From: grandwazoo at earthlink.net (Mike Jackson) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 13:53:30 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Message-ID: <1664655795.4151.1614624810995@wamui-agami.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trhouse at columbus.rr.com Mon Mar 1 12:11:57 2021 From: trhouse at columbus.rr.com (trhouse at columbus.rr.com) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2021 19:11:57 +0000 Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Message-ID: <22b21e1b55ae6616b979b811d7bdd7fc80559286@webmail> Not sure if I posted this but lost my Wife and best friend over 50 years last week She was a big help at Mid Ohio 92 and 02 https://www.facebook.com/susie.householder -----------------------------------------From: "Mike Jackson via Fot" To: "fubog1", "fot at autox.team.net", "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" Cc: Sent: Monday March 1 2021 1:54:06PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio It remains a huge memory of a great race weekend. It would never have happened, or been as great for me personally without Tom creating the event and Glen creating our TR3 from an old street car. It will race again still largely in the same spec as nearly 30 years ago. Thanks to both of you! Mike Jackson -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 via Fot Sent: Mar 1, 2021 1:03 PM To: "fot at autox.team.net" , "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Yeah I'm going to agree, out of all of the hundreds of races that I've been to in some capacity or other, Mid-O '92 Vintage pretty much stands at the top of the list, the TR force was STRONG that weekend!!! (It was especially quite an adventure hauling up from south florida in my (still) daily-driver 66SWB Land Rover, 3 days up, 2 1/2 back including rigging-up a split trailer tongue patch) It's good to see that many of us are still around, sad that a few aren't, but that the FOT is very much alive & well, thanks to all who make it all happen! Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: T. R. Householder via Fot To: 'Joe Alexander' ; 'fot at autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio I was approached to look into this in 1990 and insisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 year comparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers on board Sue Harsh was a great help Tom Mahoney and COCTRA came own board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were great promoters Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd . Greatest event in history MHO! ----------------------------------------- From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" To: "Jack Wheeler" Cc: "FOT Triumph" Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to get serious credit for this. There were several people that attended that influenced them to join the vintage racing scene. The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on that event. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: ? I was there as well. That was when I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA. Charles Runyan had asked me to bring my car over and put it on display at The Roadster Factory tent. I think TRF helped sponsor the event. I towed my car over with my race van and brought my Harley along in the back of the van. Once I dropped the race car off at the TRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent the rest of the weekend riding around on my Harley. Great fun. Great memories. Jack On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot wrote: I was there, as a spectator. If you look real carefully, you can see me in my BRG TR3 with Revolution wheels and only front over riders (no bumper) pulling out on track for the parade laps. 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URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Mon Mar 1 12:46:16 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 19:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio In-Reply-To: <22b21e1b55ae6616b979b811d7bdd7fc80559286@webmail> References: <22b21e1b55ae6616b979b811d7bdd7fc80559286@webmail> Message-ID: <2097776265.585140.1614627976224@mail.yahoo.com> Very sorry to hear this Tom, hang in there, the loss of others makes us appreciate every new day more...Glen -----Original Message----- From: T. R. Householder via Fot To: 'Mike Jackson' Cc: 'fot at autox.team.net' ; 'fubog1' Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 2:11 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Not sure if I posted this but lost my Wife and best friend over 50 years last week She was a big help at Mid Ohio 92 and 02 https://www.facebook.com/susie.householder -----------------------------------------From: "Mike Jackson via Fot" To: "fubog1", "fot at autox.team.net", "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" Cc: Sent: Monday March 1 2021 1:54:06PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio It remains a huge memory of a great race weekend.It would never have happened, or been as great for mepersonally without Tom creating the event and Glen creating our TR3from an old street car.? It will race again still largely inthe same spec as nearly 30 years ago. Thanks to both of you! Mike Jackson -----Original Message----- From: fubog1 via Fot Sent: Mar 1, 2021 1:03 PM To: "fot at autox.team.net" , "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Yeah I'm going to agree, out of all of thehundreds of races that I've been to in some capacity or other,Mid-O '92 Vintage pretty much stands at the top of the list, the TRforce was STRONG that weekend!!!(It was especially quite an adventure haulingup from south florida in my (still) daily-driver 66SWB Land Rover,3 days up, 2 1/2 back including rigging-up a split trailer tonguepatch)It's good to see that many of us are stillaround, sad that a few aren't, but that the FOT is very much alive& well, thanks to all who make it all happen! Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: T. R. Householder via Fot To: 'Joe Alexander' ;'fot at autox.team.net' Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 12:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio I was approached to look into this in 1990 andinsisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 yearcomparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers onboard Sue Harsh was a great help ?Tom Mahoney and COCTRA cameown board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were greatpromoters ?Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd. Greatest event in history MHO! -----------------------------------------From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" To: "Jack Wheeler" Cc: "FOT Triumph" Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to getserious credit for this. There were several people that attended thatinfluenced them to join the vintage racing scene. The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on thatevent.? Joe Alexander4505 Donald DrCedar Falls, IA 50613The-vintage-racer.comGasketinnovations.comCell: ?319.464.4711 On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, JackWheeler via Fot wrote: ?I was there as well.? That waswhen I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA.? Charles Runyan hadasked me to bring my car over and put it on display at The RoadsterFactory tent.? I think TRF helped sponsor the event.? Itowed my car over with my race van and brought my Harley along inthe back of the van.? Once I dropped the race car off at theTRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent the rest of theweekend riding around on my Harley.? Great fun.? Greatmemories. Jack On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST,Terry Stetler via Fot wrote: I was there, as a spectator.? If you look realcarefully, you can see me in my BRG TR3 with Revolution wheels andonly front over riders (no bumper) pulling out on track for theparade laps.As we were waiting to go on track, Bob Tulliuswalked by and said he liked how I had my car set up!?Good times.?Terry StetlerSent from Mail forWindows 10?From: yellow04 via Fot Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 10:24 AM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event atMid-Ohio?A while back we had adiscussion about the 1992 Mid-Ohio event, and folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared somevideo he took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us abunch of pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. ThanksDan! 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URL: From jshawtr2 at yahoo.com Mon Mar 1 13:19:26 2021 From: jshawtr2 at yahoo.com (Jim Shaw) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 15:19:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio In-Reply-To: <1664655795.4151.1614624810995@wamui-agami.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <1664655795.4151.1614624810995@wamui-agami.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3E723E12-3846-45EE-839B-5DB9E2163CB5@yahoo.com> I remember that one well. Great event thanks to all that made it happen. I also remember getting a speeding ticket trying to catch Jack. Him Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 1, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Mike Jackson via Fot wrote: > > ? > It remains a huge memory of a great race weekend. > It would never have happened, or been as great for me personally without Tom creating the event and Glen creating our TR3 from an old street car. It will race again still largely in the same spec as nearly 30 years ago. > > Thanks to both of you! > > Mike Jackson > > -----Original Message----- > From: fubog1 via Fot > Sent: Mar 1, 2021 1:03 PM > To: "fot at autox.team.net" , "joealexandervintage at gmail.com" > Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio > > Yeah I'm going to agree, out of all of the hundreds of races that I've been to in some capacity or other, Mid-O '92 Vintage pretty much stands at the top of the list, the TR force was STRONG that weekend!!! > (It was especially quite an adventure hauling up from south florida in my (still) daily-driver 66SWB Land Rover, 3 days up, 2 1/2 back including rigging-up a split trailer tongue patch) > It's good to see that many of us are still around, sad that a few aren't, but that the FOT is very much alive & well, thanks to all who make it all happen! > > Glen Efinger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: T. R. Householder via Fot > To: 'Joe Alexander' ; 'fot at autox.team.net' > Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 12:38 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio > > I was approached to look into this in 1990 and insisted on waiting 2 years to do it around the 40 year comparative. Spent a lot of time going to races to get Racers on board Sue Harsh was a great help Tom Mahoney and COCTRA came own board and helped with the car show . TRF and Moss were great promoters Estimates of 5k folks with TR history in the crowwd . Greatest event in history MHO! > > ----------------------------------------- > From: "Joe Alexander via Fot" > To: "Jack Wheeler" > Cc: "FOT Triumph" > Sent: Sunday February 28 2021 1:30:17PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio > > Mid-Ohio was the beginning of something BIG for Triumphs. > > Tom Householder and some WPTA guys need to get serious credit for this. > > There were several people that attended that influenced them to join the vintage racing scene. > > The FOT and the Kastner Cup has built on that event. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > > On Feb 28, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot wrote: > > ? > I was there as well. That was when I was still racing my TR-4 in SCCA. Charles Runyan had asked me to bring my car over and put it on display at The Roadster Factory tent. I think TRF helped sponsor the event. I towed my car over with my race van and brought my Harley along in the back of the van. Once I dropped the race car off at the TRF tent, I parked my van & trailer and spent the rest of the weekend riding around on my Harley. Great fun. Great memories. > > Jack > > On Sunday, February 28, 2021, 1:10:07 PM EST, Terry Stetler via Fot wrote: > > > I was there, as a spectator. If you look real carefully, you can see me in my BRG TR3 with Revolution wheels and only front over riders (no bumper) pulling out on track for the parade laps. > As we were waiting to go on track, Bob Tullius walked by and said he liked how I had my car set up! > > Good times. > > Terry Stetler > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: yellow04 via Fot > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2021 10:24 AM > To: fot at autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] The infamous 1992 event at Mid-Ohio > > A while back we had a discussion about the 1992 Mid-Ohio event, and > folks shared great memories and more. Dan Styduhar shared some video he > took while attending the 1992 Mid-Ohio event. He just sent us a bunch of > pictures taken that weekend to compliment the video. Thanks Dan! > > All great stuff and it's on the event's page: > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffot-racing.com%2Ffot-feature-events%2Fmid-ohio-1992%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690200076%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=2cWY2G56x05pmtgzsDk8ZWob%2Bje3D8GcRg2A21QnWZE%3D&reserved=0 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fot-racing.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=0YscLb9IaK9hBM4CPUXIv1kfMYEgjgP8cK43yuvlQ%2BM%3D&reserved=0 > > Donate: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fdonate.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Yky1S01gnBeYzlsDgJyK8Cd8EMmGdlCr7fEAmntI6SU%3D&reserved=0 > Archive: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Farchive&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=zeALenM0RWp0tIidrJC7h6%2F%2BV9w7%2B55mUu08clGVrXc%3D&reserved=0 https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.team.net%2Fpipermail%2Ffot&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=p5he%2FrT040JJZDPr%2Fa6%2Bd9ilzvKc5ekPiK06fwyI%2FYY%3D&reserved=0 > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Foptions%2Ffot%2Ftlizzard%40msn.com&data=04%7C01%7C%7C597a539079fe4ce8b75a08d8dbfcf000%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637501226690210072%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Uo4l56jbo%2B3LRdWTmTKbXU2uUjR%2FX1n4DxfQMxqUI%2Bk%3D&reserved=0 > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jshawtr2 at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Seeing as Lacey III will be ready for the track this year :-) Jamie Palmer Sent from my iPad > On Mar 2, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Joe Henry via Fot wrote: > > ? > Photo of our TR6 at the 2012 Kastner Cup at Road Atlanta driven by Joe Downer. > > Joe Downer > Charlotte, NC > <474FFE1C-4DB4-4793-80EF-139D6BBD0CC5.jpeg> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Seeing as Lacey III will be ready for the track this year :-) > > Jamie Palmer > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Mar 2, 2021, at 7:09 PM, Joe Henry via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> Photo of our TR6 at the 2012 Kastner Cup at Road Atlanta driven by Joe Downer. >> >> Joe Downer >> Charlotte, NC >> <474FFE1C-4DB4-4793-80EF-139D6BBD0CC5.jpeg> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr6driver at yahoo.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jkhagen at charter.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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His name is Bruce Turner and his contact number is on the attached flyer. I have seen this car and it is a very well prepared and well-equipped car, could also make a great vintage racer. It has not been raced for a while and is located in the Columbus, Ohio area. Sam Halkias -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Turner Spitfire for sale.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 561729 bytes Desc: Turner Spitfire for sale.pdf URL: From tr4abrad at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 17:00:36 2021 From: tr4abrad at gmail.com (Brad Eells) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 16:00:36 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Always a second on a Spitfire guy! I believe Ian has become active on our ?Racing the Triumph Spitfire? Facebook group as well. Cheers, Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > > ? > I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. > > He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. > > Can I get a second? > > mike h > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com > > From fmccjr at aol.com Thu Mar 4 17:05:42 2021 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 19:05:42 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C6C6B36-BA3E-4286-AAD3-4DF0DBE09208@aol.com> SECOND!! Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY > On Mar 4, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ?Always a second on a Spitfire guy! > > I believe Ian has become active on our ?Racing the Triumph Spitfire? Facebook group as well. > > Cheers, > > > Brad Eells > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. >> >> He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. >> >> Can I get a second? >> >> mike h >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > From trmarty at hotmail.com Thu Mar 4 17:45:46 2021 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 00:45:46 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Second for sure. Marty ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Mike Harmuth via Fot Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 6:50 PM To: FoTTriumph ; Ian Johnson Subject: [Fot] Nomination I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. Can I get a second? mike h -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Thu Mar 4 18:24:20 2021 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 01:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> Here's a suggestion for prepping his car.? Buy the car that Sam recently posted.? Having built cars from a street car, in the long run it is usually better to start with an already built race car.? The disadvantage is the upfront cost.? When you build a car, the money is spent over time, but in the long run, more money is spent.? If the upfront cost can be handled, the car can be put on track almost immediately (if there is still money left for entry fees and so on).? That's my 2 cents.? JoeB On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 06:52:01 PM EST, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a? New York youngster who bought a Spitfire?race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. He's autocrossed?it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. Can I get a second? mike h_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Thu Mar 4 18:55:30 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:55:30 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7A161D72-C36A-409A-A60D-BE6856E48C8F@aol.com> Second! Gotta support those who want to carry the legacy forward!!! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 4, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > ? > Here's a suggestion for prepping his car. Buy the car that Sam recently posted. Having built cars from a street car, in the long run it is usually better to start with an already built race car. The disadvantage is the upfront cost. When you build a car, the money is spent over time, but in the long run, more money is spent. If the upfront cost can be handled, the car can be put on track almost immediately (if there is still money left for entry fees and so on). That's my 2 cents. JoeB > > On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 06:52:01 PM EST, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > > > I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. > > He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. > > Can I get a second? > > mike h > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Thu Mar 4 19:38:46 2021 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 02:38:46 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> References: , <1002142057.87460.1614907460614@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hear, hear. Started with a street car, ended up with a tarted-up street car. Still, had a ball with it on track, but would have been much better off with an old race car. Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Joe Boruch via Fot Sent: Thursday, March 4, 2021 7:24:20 PM To: FoTTriumph ; Ian Johnson ; Mike Harmuth Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Here's a suggestion for prepping his car. Buy the car that Sam recently posted. Having built cars from a street car, in the long run it is usually better to start with an already built race car. The disadvantage is the upfront cost. When you build a car, the money is spent over time, but in the long run, more money is spent. If the upfront cost can be handled, the car can be put on track almost immediately (if there is still money left for entry fees and so on). That's my 2 cents. JoeB On Thursday, March 4, 2021, 06:52:01 PM EST, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a New York youngster who bought a Spitfire race car and is in the process of building it into a road racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is looking for some suggestions on prepping it. He's autocrossed it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well as vintage racing. Can I get a second? mike h _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu Mar 4 21:39:02 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2021 20:39:02 -0800 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> References: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> Message-ID: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Hello everyone, Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been much more complicated. The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look forward to racing with you all soon. Thanks, Chuck > On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > > ?Hello all, > > I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. > > If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll ship once I receive payment. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> ?Hi Amici, >> >> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ?Hello all, >>> >>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send again. >>> >>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? >>> >>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order and get them going. >>> >>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hello all, >>>> >>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth so far and I appreciate it! >>>> >>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. >>>> >>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! >>>> >>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. >>>>> >>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 reference. >>>>> >>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Chuck Gee >>>>> >>>>> This is the back: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT logo though with some friends of triumph wording): >>>>> >>>>> From rkramer56 at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 06:25:11 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 07:25:11 -0600 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> References: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mine has been christened. Short story, humorous to me at least. I wore my Explosives shirt.last Saturday morning to get a haircut. I wanted to break it in before the first laundering. Being half Italian I have more than my share of hair on the back of my neck and the freshly cut hairs get caught in the collar of the shirt I wear for a haircut. I get annoyed easily and the collar makes me itch. I routinely throw that shirt in the wash after the haircut. The lady that cut my hair must have done a good job with tying off that little swath of paper because I didn't have any itching. Next thing I knowmy wife is asking me "I thought you weren't going to get that shirt all greasy?" She is still soaking it. I'm thinking a few grease stains are appropriate. Bob Kramer On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 10:42 PM Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m > shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly > do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been > much more complicated. > > The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! > I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look > forward to racing with you all soon. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > > > > ?Hello all, > > > > I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came > out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. > > > > If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll > ship once I receive payment. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chuck > > > >> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> ?Hi Amici, > >> > >> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime > this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do > so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. > >> > >> Chuck > >> > >>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>> > >>> ?Hello all, > >>> > >>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed > interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send > again. > >>> > >>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top > tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? > >>> > >>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this > off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order > and get them going. > >>> > >>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! > >>> > >>> Chuck > >>> > >>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ?Hello all, > >>>> > >>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth > so far and I appreciate it! > >>>> > >>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus > shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. > >>>> > >>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get > in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost > is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can > always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! > >>>> > >>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. > Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you > don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to > the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need > addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as > PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not > exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Chuck > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ?Hello all, > >>>>> > >>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These > were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to > parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. > >>>>> > >>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and > decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of > you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere > between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone > interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to > illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 > reference. > >>>>> > >>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my > original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>>> Chuck Gee > >>>>> > >>>>> This is the back: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT > logo though with some friends of triumph wording): > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From terrysopher at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 06:47:06 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 08:47:06 -0500 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> References: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks again Chuck! > On Mar 4, 2021, at 23:41, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Hello everyone, > > Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been much more complicated. > > The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look forward to racing with you all soon. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> ?Hello all, >> >> I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. >> >> If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll ship once I receive payment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ?Hi Amici, >>> >>> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hello all, >>>> >>>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send again. >>>> >>>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? >>>> >>>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order and get them going. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth so far and I appreciate it! >>>>> >>>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. >>>>> >>>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! >>>>> >>>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. >>>>>> >>>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 reference. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck Gee >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the back: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT logo though with some friends of triumph wording): >>>>>> >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From michaelndeweerd at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 08:15:15 2021 From: michaelndeweerd at gmail.com (Michael Deweerd) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 10:15:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> References: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: Love the shirts and I'm looking forward to (FINGERS AND TOES CROSSED) having a race season this year. Perhaps the Border will be open and I can see you guys at an event this summer!!! Cheers Amici Mike Deweerd TR4 On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 11:42 PM Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m > shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly > do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been > much more complicated. > > The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! > I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look > forward to racing with you all soon. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > > > On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > > > > ?Hello all, > > > > I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came > out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. > > > > If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll > ship once I receive payment. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Chuck > > > >> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >> > >> ?Hi Amici, > >> > >> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime > this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do > so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. > >> > >> Chuck > >> > >>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>> > >>> ?Hello all, > >>> > >>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed > interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send > again. > >>> > >>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top > tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? > >>> > >>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this > off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order > and get them going. > >>> > >>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! > >>> > >>> Chuck > >>> > >>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> ?Hello all, > >>>> > >>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth > so far and I appreciate it! > >>>> > >>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus > shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. > >>>> > >>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get > in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost > is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can > always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! > >>>> > >>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. > Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you > don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to > the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need > addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as > PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not > exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Chuck > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> ?Hello all, > >>>>> > >>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These > were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to > parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. > >>>>> > >>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and > decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of > you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere > between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone > interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to > illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 > reference. > >>>>> > >>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my > original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>>> Chuck Gee > >>>>> > >>>>> This is the back: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT > logo though with some friends of triumph wording): > >>>>> > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/michaelndeweerd at gmail.com > > > -- *Mike Deweerd* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Fri Mar 5 08:30:06 2021 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 08:30:06 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <196d1837-4dae-bd4e-7f98-9ee855ce4e7a@bradakis.com> On 3/4/21 4:50 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: > I'd like to nominate Ian Johnson, a? New York youngster who bought a > Spitfire?race car and is in the process of building it into a road > racer. He just found out it has a large journal 1296 engine and is > looking for some suggestions on prepping it. > > He's autocrossed?it a few times and plans on an SCCA Prod car as well > as vintage racing. > > Can I get a second? > He's been added.? And he has already posted to the Racing the Triumph Spitfire Facebook page. mjb. From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Fri Mar 5 10:43:05 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 11:43:05 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Tony Drews contact Message-ID: <9F669C18-ACD2-4705-BA5F-DC9A622A106B@icloud.com> Sorry to bomb the list but my phone was erased recently. Tony can you contact me off list? Gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Thanks Greg Sent from my iPhone From lunkercars at yahoo.com Fri Mar 5 15:46:02 2021 From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 15:46:02 -0700 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> References: <96336746-F7A4-4354-A387-452CDEA0BB94@gmail.com> <78475094-A3DB-400F-9370-5A58F14749FA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43165629-C9FA-4404-819B-A8579094752D@yahoo.com> Kind of funny when you think about it... For these shirts and the Cobra that inspired their making, there are now more reproductions than originals! Thanks again Chuck, Steve and Kas, Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer Albuquerque NM > On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been much more complicated. > > The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look forward to racing with you all soon. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >> On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >> >> ?Hello all, >> >> I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. >> >> If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll ship once I receive payment. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ?Hi Amici, >>> >>> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hello all, >>>> >>>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send again. >>>> >>>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? >>>> >>>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order and get them going. >>>> >>>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth so far and I appreciate it! >>>>> >>>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. >>>>> >>>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! >>>>> >>>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. >>>>>> >>>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 reference. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck Gee >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the back: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT logo though with some friends of triumph wording): >>>>>> >>>>>> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lunkercars at yahoo.com > > From chasgee22 at gmail.com Fri Mar 5 23:20:03 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 22:20:03 -0800 Subject: [Fot] American Explosives tee shirts - update In-Reply-To: <43165629-C9FA-4404-819B-A8579094752D@yahoo.com> References: <43165629-C9FA-4404-819B-A8579094752D@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0C0EFB19-64C1-45FF-8A96-0A6E0D060079@gmail.com> Indeed it is. Chuck > On Mar 5, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Greg Hilyer wrote: > > ?Kind of funny when you think about it... > For these shirts and the Cobra that inspired their making, there are now more reproductions than originals! > Thanks again Chuck, Steve and Kas, > Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer > Albuquerque NM > >> On Mar 4, 2021, at 9:39 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> Just wanted to thank you all for making this project painless. I?m shipping the last shirt tomorrow! I hope everyone likes them, I certainly do. A special thanks to Steve Belfer. Without him, this would have been much more complicated. >> >> The interest in these was really amazing. Over 100 shirts to 50+ people! I never expected that. A great group of like minded Triumphi. I look forward to racing with you all soon. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Chuck >> >>>> On Feb 7, 2021, at 5:51 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ?Hello all, >>> >>> I received the tee shirts yesterday and will ship tomorrow! They came out very nice. I hope you enjoy them. >>> >>> If you haven?t paid yet, please send funds at your convenience. I?ll ship once I receive payment. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>> On Feb 2, 2021, at 7:37 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> ?Hi Amici, >>>> >>>> The tee shirt order has been placed and I expect to get them sometime this week or next. If you haven?t sent payment yet, please feel free to do so! I?ve heard from most so thank you very much. >>>> >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 15, 2021, at 5:55 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> I?ve sent an email with payment instructions to everyone who expressed interest in the shirt. Let me know if you didn?t get it and I?ll send again. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to those who have already paid. If response is over the top tonight, I?m headed to Vegas tomorrow to spend it all! ? >>>>> >>>>> If you are still on the fence about ordering, I?m going to cut this off on Sunday at midnight. Once I have the totals, we will place the order and get them going. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the interest, I think you will all really like them! >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 6:23 PM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks to everyone for the great response. This has gone very smooth so far and I appreciate it! >>>>>> >>>>>> We got the quotes back and the price for the shirts is $15 plus shipping. They are the thick beefy tees and will be nice. >>>>>> >>>>>> I?ll ship them via USPS Priority Mail. Not sure how many I can get in the padded envelope, but if I can ship them that way, the current cost is $8.40. If I have to use the medium box it will be $15.05. You can always come pick them up and if you do, there is a cold beer waiting for ya! >>>>>> >>>>>> Here?s the list of people who responded with sizes and quantities. Please double check the info and let me know if it is correct. If you don?t see your name and want one, please let me know and I?ll add you to the list. Once all this is finalized we will place the order. I?ll need addresses for everyone as well as payment. Checks will be fine as well as PayPal, as long as you send payment in a way where they take a cut. Not exactly sure how that is, but we?ll figure it out when the time comes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2021, at 11:26 AM, chasgee22 at gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ?Hello all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Way back in 2007 I made some tee shirts for the Kastner Cup. These were based on the design that a Friend of Kas? used back in the day to parody the Cobra shirts the Shelby guys were wearing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I ran across one of my shirts in the closet the other day and decided I needed a new one. Rather than make just one, I figured a lot of you might want one as well. I think we can keep the price somewhere between $10 and $20 depending on the quantity, so what say you? Is anyone interested? They would be white short sleeve. Attached are some pics to illustrate. The front would just be the FOT logo, not the Kastner Cup 2007 reference. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve Belfer has graciously agreed to help with the artwork (my original supplier is long gone), so you know they will be very classy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chuck Gee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the back: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the front (about 3? in size on the upper left, just the FOT logo though with some friends of triumph wording): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lunkercars at yahoo.com >> >> > From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 7 09:44:42 2021 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted References: <372135488.241435.1615135482872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph | | | | | | | | | | | 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph | | | New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! c ya,Bob Lang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Sun Mar 7 10:03:15 2021 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2021 12:03:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted In-Reply-To: <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> References: <372135488.241435.1615135482872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1615136595.3w3th2ac8c44sws4@webmail.lumos.net> That was fun, thanks Bob.? After pulling an all-nighter to get Chris's car back on track, I still remember how gratifying it felt to see him do so well.? It was worth it all. Thanks, John ? On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC), Robert Lang via Fot wrote: ? Hi, ? Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: ? 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph ? ? ? 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph ? ? ? New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. ? In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. ? WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! ? c ya, Bob Lang ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jerryvv at roadrunner.com Sun Mar 7 10:28:16 2021 From: jerryvv at roadrunner.com (Jerry Van Vlack) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 12:28:16 -0500 Subject: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted In-Reply-To: <1615136595.3w3th2ac8c44sws4@webmail.lumos.net> References: <372135488.241435.1615135482872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> <1615136595.3w3th2ac8c44sws4@webmail.lumos.net> Message-ID: <32330E570BB347F3BCB77F3B25188198@VlackTK121647> There were many memories made by the event but the overnight rebuild of the TR5 which I believe included some frame straightening was the most memorable. JVV From: R. John Lye via Fot Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 12:03 PM To: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted That was fun, thanks Bob. After pulling an all-nighter to get Chris's car back on track, I still remember how gratifying it felt to see him do so well. It was worth it all. Thanks, John On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC), Robert Lang via Fot wrote: Hi, Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! c ya, Bob Lang _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 7 12:20:37 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 19:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Cylinder Head Studs References: <1634902746.307499.1615144837286.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1634902746.307499.1615144837286@mail.yahoo.com> Back in the day, when I was racing on a tight budget, I always picked out the best looking cylinder head studs I had, and used them in my race engines.? In 25 years of racing, I never bought any new studs.? I suspect that most of the racers on this list are using more modern, high tech studs today.? However, during the years that I was racing, I parted out a lot of cars/engines and kept all of the cylinder head studs. I have over 100 long ones and over 100 short ones?? There are 2 lengths of long studs and I have a mix of each.? There are 3 lengths of short ones, the longest being the one that the lifting bracket attaches to at the right rear (facing forward) corner of the head, next to the water outlet for the heater..? I got rid of all of those that I had to an FOT lister.? I have a mix of the shorter 2 sizes of the short studs. If anyone is interested in any of these studs, all I ask is that you pay for the shipping (heavy, so they will be expensive to ship long distances).? Let me know what sizes you want, and I will send them out. Any that are not claimed will go to my friend at the scrap metal yard.? Thanks. Jack -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From curt.johnston at comcast.net Sun Mar 7 13:40:16 2021 From: curt.johnston at comcast.net (Curt Johnston) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 12:40:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted In-Reply-To: <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> References: <372135488.241435.1615135482872.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <372135488.241435.1615135482872@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1108651958.138779.1615149616867@connect.xfinity.com> Great foot Bob, and fun to see. I think we should set up a link to this video on the FOT page or the new Kastner Cup webpage: http://kastnercup2021.com/ Curt Johnston > On 03/07/2021 8:44 AM Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > > > Hi, > > Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: > > 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEOwCDwOSv4 > > > > 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph > > > > > New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. > > In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. > > WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! > > c ya, > Bob Lang > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/curt.johnston at comcast.net > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lots of new AE engine bearings for Spit/GT6/TR250/6/TR-3-4/Spit 1500 TR-3 steering wheel for adj column (new TRF) TR-3 horn head assembly new Multiple Payen and OEM gasket sets There is also Spitfire round-tail rear quarter sheetmetal Spitfire Mk3 rear center section Spitfire & GT6 floor sections Spitfire/GT-6 rocker panels-both sides TR-4-6 door skins TR3 seat frames(used) Ferrari TR brake caliper pistons Contact me off line so we don't clutter up the FOT list please. Russ Moore 63 Spitfire #49(among many others) -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave just donated this print to our new British Sports Car Hall of Fame facilities. Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > From alfetta95 at optonline.net Tue Mar 9 08:12:26 2021 From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:12:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Townsend In-Reply-To: <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091@cs.com> References: <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091@cs.com> Message-ID: <47FB3A97-8F21-4CD5-A32E-71FA953AC6A9@optonline.net> Beautiful picture! I second Welcome Dave! Todd > On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?FOT, > > Dave Townsend is a serial Triumph owner and a racer in the past. But he is also an automotive artist. Dave just donated this print to our new British Sports Car Hall of Fame facilities. Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. > > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net > > From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 08:20:55 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 09:20:55 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Townsend In-Reply-To: <47FB3A97-8F21-4CD5-A32E-71FA953AC6A9@optonline.net> References: <47FB3A97-8F21-4CD5-A32E-71FA953AC6A9@optonline.net> Message-ID: Here?s Dave! Self Introduction to follow. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. >> >> >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > From terrysopher at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 08:35:58 2021 From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:35:58 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Townsend In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Love Dave?s work - I have the TR250 print he did - matches my concours TR250 perfectly! > On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:22, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Here?s Dave! Self Introduction to follow. > > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >> On Mar 9, 2021, at 9:14 AM, Alfetta95 via Fot wrote: >> >> ?Beautiful picture! >> >> I second >> >> Welcome Dave! >> Todd >> >> >> >>>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> >>> ?FOT, >>> >>> Dave Townsend is a serial Triumph owner and a racer in the past. But he is also an automotive artist. Dave just donated this print to our new British Sports Car Hall of Fame facilities. Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95 at optonline.net >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Tue Mar 9 09:25:42 2021 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 10:25:42 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Nomination Dave Townsend In-Reply-To: <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091@cs.com> References: <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091.ref@cs.com> <927170FE-4461-4B16-AD22-D3AF52113091@cs.com> Message-ID: I wholeheartedly second!!! Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 9:06 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > FOT, > > Dave Townsend is a serial Triumph owner and a racer in the past. But he is > also an automotive artist. Dave just donated this print to our new British > Sports Car Hall of Fame facilities. Let?s hear it for Dave Townsend. > > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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John Lye via Fot Sent: Sunday, March 7, 2021 12:03 PM To: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com ; fot at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] 2002 All Triumph Video Posted ? That was fun, thanks Bob.? After pulling an all-nighter to get Chris's car back on track, I still remember how gratifying it felt to see him do so well.? It was worth it all. Thanks, John ? On Sun, 7 Mar 2021 16:44:42 +0000 (UTC), Robert Lang via Fot wrote: ? Hi, ? Long story short: I had some issues getting this video processed, but I finally got it all sorted out and posted it you U toob: ? 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph ? ? ? 2002 Mid Ohio Triumph ? ? ? New England Triumphs caravaned to Mid-Ohio to help Rich Bolton and his newly acquired TR3 (formerly John Harness' car) - when I got to the track, I realized that I had left my bag of film at home. Rich came through and handed me a box of fresh Kodachrome with the instruction: get some good shots. I got a lot of good shots that weekend, but for the All Triumph feature I decided that catching cars coming through the esses would be fun. About half-way through the race, I put the Canon T70 down to shoot some video. I got the video posted here. When I picked up the camera to blow off the last couple of frames, the camera had died. I was amazed that it worked then just died with no warning. I tried shooting film for about a year after that, but the event led to my adopting digital cameras. ? In any case, I got around 100 film images from that weekend and I've scanned a few, but I thought the greater FOT might like to sea AND HEAR the cars - and see Chris Petch's (sp?) miraculous "comeback" for the feature. ? WHAT A GREAT WEEKEND THAT WAS! ? c ya, Bob Lang ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvv at roadrunner.com ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dos_gusanos at msn.com Tue Mar 9 13:48:00 2021 From: dos_gusanos at msn.com (Henry A. Morrison) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 20:48:00 +0000 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from Outlook ________________________________ From: Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To: Cliff Hansen Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen > wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours. Thanks, Cliff Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Tue Mar 9 13:52:38 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 15:52:38 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> I re-use the ARP head studs. Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from Outlook From: Triumphs > on behalf of Greg Lemon > Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To: Cliff Hansen > Cc: list Triumph > Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen > wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours. Thanks, Cliff Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So I would like to ask this very knowledgeable and passionate group, what do you thinks it?s value is and is their any interest in acquiring it. Thanks in advance for your consideration. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 [cid:image003.jpg at 01D713E3.136159D0] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 97118B40888C4F2FBCC9D1ABB94E9DED.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 108381 bytes Desc: 97118B40888C4F2FBCC9D1ABB94E9DED.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: EXECUTIVE SUMMARY 1969 TRIUMPH TR6.docx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document Size: 14187 bytes Desc: EXECUTIVE SUMMARY 1969 TRIUMPH TR6.docx URL: From vfracing at aol.com Tue Mar 9 16:49:23 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 18:49:23 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> Message-ID: <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. And yes, I re use the ARP studs. Phil Gott ?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: > > ?I re-use the ARP head studs. Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: > > In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ > > Henry Morrison > > Sent from Outlook > > From: Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon > Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM > To: Cliff Hansen > Cc: list Triumph > Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. > > Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. > > Greg Lemon, TR250 > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: > I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours. > > Thanks, > > Cliff > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Tue Mar 9 19:37:55 2021 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 12:37:55 +1000 Subject: [Fot] TR6 cylinder head question Message-ID: im trying to confirm the casting and part numbers for the cylinder head on the US market TR6 & GT6 (Mk2 & 3) engines my records, going back decades, mostly covers the UK cars and i'm aware the US was often different. the numbers i'm chasing are clearly marked on the intake/exh port side. The part number is stamped into the head on machined flat surface near #1 intake port , and the cast number (raised) is cast in, roughly above #3 intake port. Both can be seen with the rocker cover in place if anyone happens to have a head off an engine and knowns its never been machined, then a thickness measurement would really help For example, commencing around 1974 for the 2500 engine, the cast numbers typically changes to 313247 for "low compression" and 313248 for 'high compression" They are differing thickness. . Both have a round boss near #5 cylinder location that was drilled and threaded for an EGR valve if needed. As such, there are many different part numbers for bare and completed heads. I'll post up my data table FYI, once i get this sorted many thanks Terry Australia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Mar 10 06:36:58 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 13:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <485528335.937763.1615383418786@mail.yahoo.com> It isn't necessarily that the stock studs will break, they are more prone to stretching.The main advantage of the ARP studs is their ability to retain torque.Glen -----Original Message----- From: Henry A. Morrison via Fot To: FOT Triumph Sent: Tue, Mar 9, 2021 3:48 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? #yiv4391055996 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.? Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from Outlook From: Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To: Cliff Hansen Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs??I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.?Thanks,?Cliff??Sent from Mail for Windows 10?** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs? http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Wed Mar 10 13:10:47 2021 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 15:10:47 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR6 block for free References: <39DEDB99-6509-4B3A-A4EF-A3AE6EFEF16E@me.com> Message-ID: Number CC78837UE Later block with recessed grooves for head gasket, includes main bearing caps. sleeved and bored 30 over. Light cylinder wall wear and needs to be bored again before using. I found a different block to work with. Just north of Philadelphia, or will deliver to Jefferson 500 in May. If no interest, it?s off to the scrapper. Scott Janzen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Wed Mar 10 15:44:24 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:44:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> Message-ID: <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Phil.? I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.? 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with Gaskacinch)..? Worked then, sounds like it still works now.? Some things never change. Jack On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. ?And yes, I re use the ARP studs.?Phil Gott?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: ? I re-use the ARP head studs. ?Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.? Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from?Outlook From:?Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent:?Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To:?Cliff Hansen Cc:?list Triumph Subject:?Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs??I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.?Thanks,?Cliff??Sent from?Mail?for Windows 10?**?triumphs at autox.team.net?** Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs??http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://autox.team.net/archive?http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Mar 10 16:14:12 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 23:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw in easily.The current replacements have all of the holes same size. Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Jack Wheeler via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: FOT Triumph Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? Hi Phil.? I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.? 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with Gaskacinch)..? Worked then, sounds like it still works now.? Some things never change. Jack On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place. ?And yes, I re use the ARP studs.?Phil Gott?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: ? I re-use the ARP head studs. ?Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.? Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from?Outlook From:?Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent:?Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To:?Cliff Hansen Cc:?list Triumph Subject:?Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs??I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.?Thanks,?Cliff??Sent from?Mail?for Windows 10?**?triumphs at autox.team.net?** Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs??http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://autox.team.net/archive?http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 16:29:58 2021 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 17:29:58 -0600 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Back in 2002 at Mid Ohio they had a swap meet in the car show area. I bought a box of a hundred new head studs and a sleeve of NOS shim steel head gaskets from a guy there. Ithink I paid $100 for the whole lot. I still have some gaskets. I sold some stud sets on eBay years and years ago to recoup the cost but I still have a bunch. I also started using ARP because of the hex key recess.. Bob Kramer On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 5:22 PM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just > slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay > the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw > in easily. > The current replacements have all of the holes same size. > Glen Efinger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Wheeler via Fot > To: Phil Gott > Cc: FOT Triumph > Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > Hi Phil. I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim > head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago. 2 studs, head > gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared > with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with > Gaskacinch).. Worked then, sounds like it still works now. Some things > never change. > > Jack > > On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that > the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it > far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre > treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head > itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit > on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two > studs in place. And yes, I re use the ARP studs. > Phil Gott > ?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot > wrote: > > ? > > I re-use the ARP head studs. Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs > in my race engine. > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot > wrote: > > In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a > head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, > never had a bad coil............ > > Henry Morrison > > Sent from Outlook > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Triumphs on behalf of Greg > Lemon > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM > *To:* Cliff Hansen > *Cc:* list Triumph > *Subject:* Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and > never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, > MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. > > Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if > stretched it will bind. > > Greg Lemon, TR250 > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen > wrote: > > I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the > machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the > head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even > if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on > this, but am interested in yours. > > Thanks, > > Cliff > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From johnstydo at gmail.com Wed Mar 10 16:38:53 2021 From: johnstydo at gmail.com (John Styduhar) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 18:38:53 -0500 Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Now matter how the head gasket is oriented on the block, I also orient the head gasket on the head to make sure the gasket does not intrude into the combustion chamber, especially where the intake valve pocket is relieved. Sometimes it doesn't exactly match the arc on the cylinder liner. John Styduhar On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:21 PM fubog1 via Fot wrote: > The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just > slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay > the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw > in easily. > The current replacements have all of the holes same size. > Glen Efinger > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Wheeler via Fot > To: Phil Gott > Cc: FOT Triumph > Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > Hi Phil. I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim > head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago. 2 studs, head > gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared > with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with > Gaskacinch).. Worked then, sounds like it still works now. Some things > never change. > > Jack > > On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that > the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it > far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre > treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head > itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit > on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two > studs in place. And yes, I re use the ARP studs. > Phil Gott > ?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot > wrote: > > ? > > I re-use the ARP head studs. Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs > in my race engine. > > On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot > wrote: > > In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a > head stud failure. Broken most everything else...........except for coils, > never had a bad coil............ > > Henry Morrison > > Sent from Outlook > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Triumphs on behalf of Greg > Lemon > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM > *To:* Cliff Hansen > *Cc:* list Triumph > *Subject:* Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? > > I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and > never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, > MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. > > Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if > stretched it will bind. > > Greg Lemon, TR250 > > On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen > wrote: > > I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the > machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the > head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even > if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on > this, but am interested in yours. > > Thanks, > > Cliff > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs > http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fubog1 at aol.com Wed Mar 10 16:47:54 2021 From: fubog1 at aol.com (fubog1) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 23:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? In-Reply-To: References: <5419C43E-E6C9-4FAD-AFCC-1CFEFB7B4D77@me.com> <76C65774-AAC4-4D25-8AEA-81CFC9B5660B@aol.com> <1400516403.554.1615416264083@mail.yahoo.com> <937806300.243.1615418052098@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <594914399.7949.1615420074632@mail.yahoo.com> That's a good point and quite true, especially w/the new replacement gaskets, the holes are all big and the gasket can shuffle around, and as you also mentioned, the inlet valve relief area is especially critical.Glen -----Original Message----- From: John Styduhar via Fot To: fubog1 Cc: fot at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 6:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? Now matter how the head gasket is oriented on the block, I also orient the head gasket on the head to make sure the gasket does not intrude into the combustion chamber, especially where the intake valve pocket is relieved.? Sometimes it doesn't exactly match the arc on the cylinder liner.John Styduhar? On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 6:21 PM fubog1 via Fot wrote: The original steel shim gaskets had 1 front & 1 rear diagonal holes just slightly smaller so that the gasket would locate on those 2 studs; you lay the gasket on & screw in those 2 studs, and fit the head and the rest screw in easily.The current replacements have all of the holes same size. Glen Efinger -----Original Message----- From: Jack Wheeler via Fot To: Phil Gott Cc: FOT Triumph Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] would any of you re-use head studs? Hi Phil.? I used the same exact process when installing the steel shim head gaskets on my TR-4 race car all those years ago.? 2 studs, head gasket, rest of studs (all gasket surfaces and the block liberally smeared with Gaskacinch gasket sealer), then the cylinder head (also smeared with Gaskacinch)..? Worked then, sounds like it still works now.? Some things never change. Jack On Tuesday, March 9, 2021, 6:50:31 PM EST, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: I had been re-using stock head studs with no problems. But I found that the ability to install the ARP head studs with an Allen hex wench made it far easier to install the studs. I only put in two studs, then the pre treated head gasket, then the other head studs and finally, the head itself. Because the steel shim gaskets that I use are such a precision fit on the studs, it is easier to install the gasket if there are only two studs in place.? And yes, I re use the ARP studs.?Phil Gott?65 TR4A HRG Group 3. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: ? I re-use the ARP head studs.? Don?t have any stock ?critical" bolts/studs in my race engine. On Mar 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Henry A. Morrison via Fot wrote: In 39 years of British cars, I've never replaced a head stud, never had a head stud failure.? Broken most everything else...........except for coils, never had a bad coil............ Henry Morrison Sent from?Outlook From:?Triumphs on behalf of Greg Lemon Sent:?Tuesday, March 9, 2021 12:14 PM To:?Cliff Hansen Cc:?list Triumph Subject:?Re: [TR] would any of you re-use head studs??I know some people always replace them, I have never replaced them and never had a problem with head gaskets or heads--the includes Sprite/Midget, MGB, 4 and 6 cylinder TR, and big Healey. Somebody, maybe Randall, said run a good nut up and down the thread, if stretched it will bind. Greg Lemon, TR250 On Tue, Mar 9, 2021, 1:06 PM Cliff Hansen wrote: I respect your collective advice and experience. The 4A?s head is at the machinist for a cleanup (head gasket failure). Would any of you re-use the head studs, or would you replace them? They are likely original, and even if not, have been in place for at least 25 years. I have my thoughts on this, but am interested in yours.?Thanks,?Cliff??Sent from?Mail?for Windows 10?**?triumphs at autox.team.net?** Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs??http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/grglmn at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate:?http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive:?http://autox.team.net/archive?http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage:?http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Wife and Best friend for over 50 years.. She was a strong supporter of the Triumph Marque. Great Navigator in our early years. Membership Chairperson for Triumph Register of America for many years. Mid Ohio and Kas 2002..... Search "Susie Wood Householder Facebook" for a tribute to her -----------------------------------------From: "Styduhar, Daniel Lee" To: "Tom Householder" Cc: Sent: Thursday March 11 2021 10:05:50PM Subject: Dan and Livie want to extent to you our sincerest sympatyhies Tom, I am so saddened to hear of Suzie's passing. My wife and I wish to extend to you our sincerest condolences. I attended only a few of the TRA National meets but the ones we did attend, my wife and I enjoyed being in the company of the Register members and of course you and Suzie and the famous auctions. I was going through some pictures to upload to the FOT website and came across the attached picture. 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Wife and Best friend for over 50 years.. She was a strong supporter of the Triumph Marque. Great Navigator in our early years. Membership Chairperson for Triumph Register of America for many years. > > Mid Ohio and Kas 2002..... > > Search "Susie Wood Householder Facebook" for a tribute to her > > ----------------------------------------- > > From: "Styduhar, Daniel Lee" > To: "Tom Householder" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday March 11 2021 10:05:50PM > Subject: Dan and Livie want to extent to you our sincerest sympatyhies > > Tom, > > I am so saddened to hear of Suzie's passing. My wife and I wish to extend > to you our sincerest condolences. I attended only a few of the TRA > National meets but the ones we did attend, my wife and I enjoyed being > in the company of the Register members and of course you and Suzie and > the famous auctions. 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Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:33 PM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: > > ?Nice article, Phil! > Thanks, Mike. > > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > >>> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:09 PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> From the SCCA NER newsletter >> >> https://www.pittalk.org/racing-life/have-fun-with-cars-and-family/ >> >> mike h >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Tue Mar 16 08:34:50 2021 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 09:34:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] The Texas Endurance TR6 lives, kinda Message-ID: <1034636E-75C2-45D4-A62E-4AAF4D2F3C35@icloud.com> Folks, Quick note from Texas, full report later this week. We resurrected the Texas Endurance TR6 car for a run with Champcar at Harris Hill this past weekend. Lots of fun, great track, and great people. Car was running well for 6+ hours Saturday until the radiator let go and we broke a rocker arm. Not sure the progression of failure yet as there was one of the 4 newbies in the car at the time. He simply reported a miss and pulled into the pits. Lots of fun with this group. The reason for my email. I think you would really enjoy the coverage of the race that Champcar provides with commentary. They obviously loved to feature our car and team, sometimes as comic relief. All in fun. Enjoy it, I was rolling on the floor at some of their comments. https://youtu.be/5zRTBMbLylw Greg Sent from my iPhone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 06:12:44 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 08:12:44 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Jag block, anyone? References: <945AE2FE-9CBC-478B-9104-20C080F5DB05.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <945AE2FE-9CBC-478B-9104-20C080F5DB05@aol.com> ?Asking for a friend - Scott copied on this message. Anyone know where a friend can get an early XK Jag block? Sorry if this is not strictly TR related, but they were parts of the same company for a while, and I suspect some of us may own both... Thanks, Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 06:15:09 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 08:15:09 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves References: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC.ref@aol.com> Message-ID: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC@aol.com> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone From jaboruch at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 09:10:25 2021 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC@aol.com> References: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC.ref@aol.com> <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC@aol.com> Message-ID: <730842567.2042565.1615993825300@mail.yahoo.com> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 09:19:03 2021 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 15:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <730842567.2042565.1615993825300@mail.yahoo.com> References: <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC.ref@aol.com> <7C0AAC9E-5002-48C7-AE27-3DA5CDC3D0CC@aol.com> <730842567.2042565.1615993825300@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> Phil,I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. Jake On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 10:02:51 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:02:51 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> References: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> Thanks, Erik and Joe; Good to know. I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: > > ? > Phil, > I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. > > Jake > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > > Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > > Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? > Phil Gott > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garygret at sbcglobal.net Wed Mar 17 10:33:22 2021 From: garygret at sbcglobal.net (Gary Schneider) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> References: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> Message-ID: <256235614.2079096.1615998802101@mail.yahoo.com> That was my only experience with Grose jets too, even with a fuel pressure regulator set low. Seemed like a decent idea conceptually but didn't work well in practice. Possibly their comparatively large seating area makes the float pressure inadequate to hold off the fuel pressure?Gary On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:03:22 AM CDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Thanks, Erik and Joe;Good to know.I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again!Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: ? Phil,I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. Jake On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/garygret at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rek46 at aol.com Wed Mar 17 10:37:52 2021 From: rek46 at aol.com (rek46) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 16:37:52 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> References: <764957809.1452716.1615994343641@mail.yahoo.com> <516B0DDE-0561-4E03-A146-D6189E41E50E@aol.com> Message-ID: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick?In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes:? Thanks, Erik and Joe;Good to know.I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again!Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: ?Phil,I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem.?Jake?On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote:???Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB?On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote:??Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up?Phil Gott?Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net?http://www.fot-racing.com?Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com?????_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 12:22:47 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:22:47 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> References: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yup. Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. Thanks., Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: > > ? > NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick > > In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: > > Thanks, Erik and Joe; > Good to know. > I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: > > > Phil, > I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. > > Jake > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: > > > > Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > > Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? > Phil Gott > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Wed Mar 17 13:16:39 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:16:39 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: References: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back.? Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). - Tony Drews On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > Yup. > Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot > points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first > tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the > fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 > psi and fore/aft floats works well. > Thanks., > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old >> style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a >> tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you >> having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?? You prob have >> each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both >> floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick >> In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> fot at autox.team.net writes: >> >> Thanks, Erik and Joe; >> Good to know. >> I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use >> those again! >> Phil >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen >> wrote: >> >> Phil, >> I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race >> cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, >> but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. >> Jake >> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via >> Fot wrote: >> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the >> spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I >> suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had >> issues. JoeB >> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via >> Fot wrote: >> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have >> the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the >> float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? >> Phil Gott >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive >> http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kekjacobsen at yahoo.com Wed Mar 17 13:22:09 2021 From: kekjacobsen at yahoo.com (Erik Jacobsen) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 19:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: References: <477712270.78916.1615999072185@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2012695568.1543417.1616008929455@mail.yahoo.com> Tony,Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot.? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back.? Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). - Tony Drews On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Yup. Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. Thanks., Phil? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: ? NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick ? In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: ? Thanks, Erik and Joe; Good to know. I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: ? Phil, I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. ? Jake ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: ? ? ? Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? ? Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott ? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net ? http://www.fot-racing.com ? 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URL: From vfracing at aol.com Wed Mar 17 15:54:48 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 17:54:48 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <2012695568.1543417.1616008929455@mail.yahoo.com> References: <2012695568.1543417.1616008929455@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3ED39F88-0DDB-4750-93D0-A5EC829DE307@aol.com> Thanks, everyone! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: > > ? > Tony, > Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot. > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > > > With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. > > Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). > > - Tony Drews > > On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > Yup. > Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. > Thanks., > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: >> >> ? >> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick >> >> In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: >> >> Thanks, Erik and Joe; >> Good to know. >> I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! >> Phil >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: >> >> >> Phil, >> I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. >> >> Jake >> >> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: >> >> >> >> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB >> >> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >> >> >> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? >> Phil Gott >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stutztr4 at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 13:36:54 2021 From: stutztr4 at gmail.com (Bruce Stutzman) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 15:36:54 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <3ED39F88-0DDB-4750-93D0-A5EC829DE307@aol.com> References: <2012695568.1543417.1616008929455@mail.yahoo.com> <3ED39F88-0DDB-4750-93D0-A5EC829DE307@aol.com> Message-ID: Unfortunately I don't remember which, but Joe Curto specifies solid needles for certain SUs and spring loaded for others. Bruce Stutzman On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:58 PM Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > Thanks, everyone! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot > wrote: > > ? > Tony, > Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny > compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot. > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the > front and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness > after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. > > Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel > pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than > we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). > > - Tony Drews > On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: > > Yup. > Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot > points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to > overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, > which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft > floats works well. > Thanks., > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot > wrote: > > ? > NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style > floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your > float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. > probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward > center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. > or back)....rick > > In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, > fot at autox.team.net writes: > > > Thanks, Erik and Joe; > Good to know. > I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those > again! > Phil > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen > wrote: > > > Phil, > I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't > had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race > car, I still haven't had a problem. > > Jake > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot > wrote: > > > > Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded > ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and > others had said that they had issues. JoeB > > On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot > wrote: > > > Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring > loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one > better, worse, or require different set up? > Phil Gott > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________fot at autox.team.net > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutztr4 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rjl6n at cstone.net Thu Mar 18 17:27:43 2021 From: rjl6n at cstone.net (=?UTF-8?B?Ui4gSm9obiBMeWU=?=) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 19:27:43 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1616110063.dcsad0liwwg08gw8@webmail.lumos.net> I have used Total Seal piston rings many times, and that is my "go to" piston ring. John ? On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:25:43 -0700, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: ? Hello Amici, ? A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. ? He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. ? Can any of you share your ring choices? ? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. ? I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? ? Your thoughts are appreciated! Brad Eells Chino CA #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 17:31:14 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 16:31:14 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2A60C39F-CFBA-4F0B-9CB0-911B7BDC8B6C@gmail.com> Just go with what JE recommends. Thanks, Chuck > On Mar 18, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > > ? > Hello Amici, > > A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. > > He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. > > Can any of you share your ring choices? > > I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. > > I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? > > Your thoughts are appreciated! > Brad Eells > Chino CA > #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 > #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 > 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulricco at att.net Thu Mar 18 18:04:26 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 19:04:26 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: <2A60C39F-CFBA-4F0B-9CB0-911B7BDC8B6C@gmail.com> References: <2A60C39F-CFBA-4F0B-9CB0-911B7BDC8B6C@gmail.com> Message-ID: I agree with Chuck on this. Someone should communicate with JE about how you are building the motor and how you will run the car. Their engineering/technical department will help with ring recommendations. There knowledge and experience should be most helpful. We do this Wiseco every time we work on a piston design with them. It always turns out well. We defer to them on wrist pin recommendations also. We have found that they have learned a lot about this stuff over the years Paul Ricco Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2021, at 6:33 PM, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: > > ?Just go with what JE recommends. > > Thanks, > > Chuck > >>> On Mar 18, 2021, at 4:26 PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Hello Amici, >> >> A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. >> >> He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. >> >> Can any of you share your ring choices? >> >> I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. >> >> I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? >> >> Your thoughts are appreciated! >> Brad Eells >> Chino CA >> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 >> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 >> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee22 at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/paulricco at att.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chasgee22 at gmail.com Thu Mar 18 18:24:42 2021 From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (Chuck Gee) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:24:42 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?I agree with Chuck on this.? That?s what I like to hear! Paul is my new best friend. Thanks, Chuck > On Mar 18, 2021, at 5:05 PM, Paul Ricco via Fot wrote: > > I agree with Chuck on this. From vfracing at aol.com Thu Mar 18 19:38:52 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 21:38:52 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7A23C14F-B9AF-41CF-AE65-DB6C4FB64403@aol.com> Yes. I don?t really understand why the little spring is used, which is why I asked. Joe told me the same thing but not why.... Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Bruce Stutzman wrote: > > ? > Unfortunately I don't remember which, but Joe Curto specifies solid needles for certain SUs and spring loaded for others. > Bruce Stutzman > >> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:58 PM Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >> Thanks, everyone! >> Phil >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: >>>> >>> ? >>> Tony, >>> Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot. >>> >>> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: >>> >>> >>> With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. >>> >>> Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). >>> >>> - Tony Drews >>> >>> On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>> >>> Yup. >>> Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. >>> Thanks., >>> Phil >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: >>>> >>>> Thanks, Erik and Joe; >>>> Good to know. >>>> I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Phil, >>>> I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. >>>> >>>> Jake >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? >>>> Phil Gott >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rek46 at aol.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot at autox.team.net >>>> >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>> >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kekjacobsen at yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stutztr4 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jaboruch at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 19:44:31 2021 From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 01:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <650798012.2788999.1616118271408@mail.yahoo.com> I would not recommend rings patterned from the factory GT6 pistons.? Ring technology has changed significantly since the GT6 was developed.? As others suggested talk to JE or Total Seal.? I have heard mixed results with the gapless rings, so you may want to stay away from those.? JoeB On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 07:26:46 PM EDT, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: Hello Amici, A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. Can any of you share your ring choices? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? Your thoughts are appreciated! Brad EellsChino CA#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR41965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jaboruch at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au Thu Mar 18 20:39:05 2021 From: enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au (Enquiries Road & Track) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 12:39:05 +1000 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: if JE are making pistons, surely they will supply rings??? In general, ring & piston design has improved a lot in recent decades in most cases, you will head for a nitrided steel top ring, a steel centre ring (possibly filled with something) and a 3-piece segmented oil ring in many cases, they can now make a perfectly satisfactory top and second ring at or under 1mm in thickness. Generally, the thinner it is, the lower the friction but really thin rings require super careful honing and bed-in best practise is to not have any slots behind the oil ring, but rather a ring of small holes some piston makers have all sorts of clever micro 'tricks" like anti-flutter grooves they machine in the lands between the rings Whomever supplies the rings will specify the final hone finish required best practise is to use double "spiro-locks" to retain the gudgeon pin Terry Australia On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:26 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: > Hello Amici, > > A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston > ring selection. > > He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look > at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. > > Can any of you share your ring choices? > > I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. > > I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from > the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? > > Your thoughts are appreciated! > *Brad Eells* > *Chino CA* > *#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3* > *#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4* > *1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!* > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quikrx at yahoo.com Thu Mar 18 20:48:12 2021 From: quikrx at yahoo.com (ralph hansen) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 02:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <306168871.1905220.1616122092367@mail.yahoo.com> I always ran Total Seal rings in my Pinto and Celica race engines, never had a failure? I also used special made teflon buttons to center the wrist pins, again, never an issue from them - clips of any kind can and do fail (had 1 failure) like so many things we try/do with our engines we all find things that work for us - usually they work for others but, sometimes not remember the key, "any significantly advanced technology is totally indistinguishable from magic" Cheers all,Ralph On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 09:36:45 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: if JE are making pistons, surely they will supply rings??? In general, ring & piston design has improved a lot in recent decades in most cases, you will head for a nitrided steel top ring, a steel centre ring (possibly filled with something) and a 3-piece segmented oil ring in many cases, they can now make a perfectly satisfactory top and second ring at or under 1mm in thickness. Generally, the thinner it is, the lower the friction but really thin rings require super careful honing and bed-in best practise is to not have any slots behind the oil ring, but rather?a ring of small holes? some piston makers have all sorts of clever micro 'tricks" like anti-flutter grooves they machine in the lands between the rings Whomever supplies the rings will specify the final hone finish required best practise is to use double "spiro-locks" to retain the gudgeon pin TerryAustralia On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:26 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: Hello Amici, A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. Can any of you share your ring choices? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? Your thoughts are appreciated! Brad EellsChino CA#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR41965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Fri Mar 19 02:47:46 2021 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:47:46 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <7A23C14F-B9AF-41CF-AE65-DB6C4FB64403@aol.com> References: <7A23C14F-B9AF-41CF-AE65-DB6C4FB64403@aol.com> Message-ID: <1272092035.27266153.1616143666228.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Maybe the spring is there to even out the pressure on the needle/valve seat surface when the fuel is agitating on the float . In doing so the plastic end on the needle doesn't wear out but higher fuel pressure can easily lift the needle off the seat. I believe this is useful for a road car but not for a race car. Marcel. Van: "fot" Aan: "Bruce Stutzman" Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 02:38:52 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Float needle valves Yes. I don?t really understand why the little spring is used, which is why I asked. Joe told me the same thing but not why.... Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Bruce Stutzman wrote: BQ_BEGIN Unfortunately I don't remember which, but Joe Curto specifies solid needles for certain SUs and spring loaded for others. Bruce Stutzman On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:58 PM Phil Gott via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: BQ_BEGIN Thanks, everyone! Phil Sent from my iPhone BQ_BEGIN On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: BQ_END BQ_BEGIN Tony, Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot. On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back. Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). - Tony Drews On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: BQ_BEGIN BQ_END Yup. Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. Thanks., Phil Sent from my iPhone BQ_BEGIN On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | ] wrote: BQ_END BQ_BEGIN NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] writes: BQ_BEGIN Thanks, Erik and Joe; Good to know. I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! Phil Sent from my iPhone BQ_BEGIN On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen [ mailto:kekjacobsen at yahoo.com | ] wrote: BQ_END BQ_BEGIN Phil, I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. Jake On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | ] wrote: Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle. I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues. JoeB On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | ] wrote: Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? 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URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Fri Mar 19 02:59:13 2021 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 09:59:13 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: <306168871.1905220.1616122092367@mail.yahoo.com> References: <306168871.1905220.1616122092367@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50927886.27298270.1616144353564.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> JE Pistons are owning Pro Seal piston rings and gaskets, and maybe one can buy JE Pistons fitted with this brand of rings. On the Pro Seal website, you can find information about the ring services that JE Pistons is offering. PS :Total Seal is a misleading name : most of their rings are NOT gapless. Marcel. Van: "fot" Aan: "Brad Eells" , "Enquiries Road, Track" Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 03:48:12 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings I always ran Total Seal rings in my Pinto and Celica race engines, never had a failure I also used special made teflon buttons to center the wrist pins, again, never an issue from them - clips of any kind can and do fail (had 1 failure) like so many things we try/do with our engines we all find things that work for us - usually they work for others but, sometimes not remember the key, "any significantly advanced technology is totally indistinguishable from magic" Cheers all, Ralph On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 09:36:45 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: if JE are making pistons, surely they will supply rings??? In general, ring & piston design has improved a lot in recent decades in most cases, you will head for a nitrided steel top ring, a steel centre ring (possibly filled with something) and a 3-piece segmented oil ring in many cases, they can now make a perfectly satisfactory top and second ring at or under 1mm in thickness. Generally, the thinner it is, the lower the friction but really thin rings require super careful honing and bed-in best practise is to not have any slots behind the oil ring, but rather a ring of small holes some piston makers have all sorts of clever micro 'tricks" like anti-flutter grooves they machine in the lands between the rings Whomever supplies the rings will specify the final hone finish required best practise is to use double "spiro-locks" to retain the gudgeon pin Terry Australia On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:26 AM Brad Eells via Fot < [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] > wrote: Hello Amici, A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. Can any of you share your ring choices? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? Your thoughts are appreciated! Brad Eells Chino CA #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3 #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road! _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage ] : [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/enquiries at roadandtrack.net.au ] _______________________________________________ [ mailto:fot at autox.team.net | fot at autox.team.net ] [ http://www.fot-racing.com/ | http://www.fot-racing.com ] Donate: [ http://www.team.net/donate.html | http://www.team.net/donate.html ] Archive: [ http://autox.team.net/archive | http://autox.team.net/archive ] [ http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot | http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot ] Unsubscribe/Manage: [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com | http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/quikrx at yahoo.com ] _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Mar 19 04:24:40 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Float needle valves In-Reply-To: <1272092035.27266153.1616143666228.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <7A23C14F-B9AF-41CF-AE65-DB6C4FB64403@aol.com> <1272092035.27266153.1616143666228.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <821531201.1935506.1616149480170@mail.yahoo.com> Marcel;Yes, that could be. ?I wonder of the viton valve seat needs this, as there are some viton tipped needles out there with no spring in them. ? Just curious at this point. Seems like nothing to worry about for a race car... Thanks again,Phil -----Original Message----- From: van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot To: fot Sent: Fri, Mar 19, 2021 4:50 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Float needle valves Maybe? the spring is there to even out the pressure on the needle/valve seat surface when the fuel is agitating on the float . In doing so the plastic end on the needle doesn't wear out but higher fuel pressure can easily lift the needle off the seat. I believe this is useful for a road car but not for a race car.Marcel. Van: "fot" Aan: "Bruce Stutzman" Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 02:38:52 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Float needle valves Yes. I don?t really understand why the little spring is used, which is why I asked. Joe told me the same thing but not why....Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2021, at 3:37 PM, Bruce Stutzman wrote: Unfortunately?I don't remember which, but Joe Curto specifies solid needles for certain SUs and spring loaded for others.Bruce Stutzman On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:58 PM Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Thanks, everyone!Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Erik Jacobsen via Fot wrote: Tony,Yeah, same scenario in my Bugeye with 3-screw tops (even if they're tiny compared to your TR-4 carbs), one front pivot, one back pivot.? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 02:17:43 PM CDT, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: With the SU's with the 3 screw tops we ended up with one pivoting at the front and another at the back.? Any other orientation resulted in weirdness after hard braking, right when you want to stomp the gas. Another vote against grose jets, they couldn't handle hardly any fuel pressure and the stock needle valves did great under up to 7 psi (more than we wanted, but fighting the doggone regulators). - Tony Drews On 3/17/2021 1:22 PM, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: Yup. Had that problem. Floats must ?face? fore and aft, meaning the pivot points across the car. WIth pivots at an angle to the car we first tried to overcome the apparent starvation in turns by increasing the fuel pressure, which just made things worse. Fuel pressure at 2 1/2 psi and fore/aft floats works well. Thanks., Phil? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 12:41 PM, rek46 via Fot wrote: NO GROSSS JETS...lousy and not for competition....Use GOOD/New old style floats....you need positive open and close.....heres a tip..check your float direction for best perf....meaning , are you having brake to accel. probs on heavy brake corners?? You prob have each float facing toward center...not best....Solved by making both floats face same direction(frt. or back)....rick ? In a message dated 3/17/2021 12:04:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, fot at autox.team.net writes: ? Thanks, Erik and Joe; Good to know. I?ve had Gross Jets hang open with some royal flooding. Won?t use those again! Phil Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2021, at 11:19 AM, Erik Jacobsen wrote: ? Phil, I use the plain old solid needles in both street and race cars and haven't had any issues. They do wear out eventually, but after 7 years in the race car, I still haven't had a problem. ? Jake ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:13:30 AM CDT, Joe Boruch via Fot wrote: ? ? ? Phil, years ago I stopped using Gross Jets, which have the spring loaded ball on the end of the float needle.? I suspected some flow issues and others had said that they had issues.? JoeB ? On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:16:11 AM EDT, Phil Gott via Fot wrote: ? ? Anyone have experience with needle valves that do not have the spring loaded contact where the needle valve rests on the float? Is a solid one better, worse, or require different set up? Phil Gott ? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net ? http://www.fot-racing.com ? 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URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Mar 19 04:40:59 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings In-Reply-To: <50927886.27298270.1616144353564.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> References: <306168871.1905220.1616122092367@mail.yahoo.com> <50927886.27298270.1616144353564.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Message-ID: <1018195328.1936228.1616150459260@mail.yahoo.com> Piston ring flutter is a hard to detect phenomenon that will allow a lot of pressure loss into the crankcase. Rings that are too thin will tend to flutter due to less spring pressure. ?The higher the piston speeds as in the wet sleeve TR engine, the more likely flutter is to occur. ? I'm not sure about the Spitfire engine (too lazy to do the math before coffee) but if you choose thin rings such as those used in the Total Seal set up, the more likely you are to get flutter. The Total Seal solution uses two half-height rings with the gap oriented 180 degrees from each other. ?IMHO this is asking for flutter. Having said that, when they work they work well. We used them successfully in a 948 Sprite and a 1.8 liter Integra. Phil Gott -----Original Message----- From: van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot To: ralph hansen ; fot Sent: Fri, Mar 19, 2021 5:05 am Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings JE Pistons are owning Pro Seal piston rings and gaskets, and maybe one can buy JE Pistons fitted with this brand of rings. On the Pro Seal website, you can find information about the ring services that JE Pistons is offering. PS :Total Seal is a misleading name : most of their rings are NOT gapless.Marcel. Van: "fot" Aan: "Brad Eells" , "Enquiries Road, Track" Cc: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 03:48:12 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Spitfire 1300 Piston Rings I always ran Total Seal rings in my Pinto and Celica race engines, never had a failure? I also used special made teflon buttons to center the wrist pins, again, never an issue from them - clips of any kind can and do fail (had 1 failure) like so many things we try/do with our engines we all find things that work for us - usually they work for others but, sometimes not remember the key, "any significantly advanced technology is totally indistinguishable from magic" Cheers all,Ralph On Thursday, March 18, 2021, 09:36:45 PM CDT, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot wrote: if JE are making pistons, surely they will supply rings??? In general, ring & piston design has improved a lot in recent decades in most cases, you will head for a nitrided steel top ring, a steel centre ring (possibly filled with something) and a 3-piece segmented oil ring in many cases, they can now make a perfectly satisfactory top and second ring at or under 1mm in thickness. Generally, the thinner it is, the lower the friction but really thin rings require super careful honing and bed-in best practise is to not have any slots behind the oil ring, but rather?a ring of small holes? some piston makers have all sorts of clever micro 'tricks" like anti-flutter grooves they machine in the lands between the rings Whomever supplies the rings will specify the final hone finish required best practise is to use double "spiro-locks" to retain the gudgeon pin TerryAustralia On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 9:26 AM Brad Eells via Fot wrote: Hello Amici, A discussion with my machine shop man led to some thoughts about piston ring selection. He recommended getting in touch with Total Seal. I of course took a look at their website to discover a mind boggling selection of ring types. Can any of you share your ring choices? I will be having JE Pistons make a custom set of forged pistons for me. I am in need of ring thickness dimensions as well. Should this come from the factory (GT6) pistons I currently have in the car? Your thoughts are appreciated! 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URL: From lunkercars at yahoo.com Fri Mar 19 16:40:10 2021 From: lunkercars at yahoo.com (Greg Hilyer) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:40:10 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine In-Reply-To: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> References: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <644494D3-BBA1-492F-BB54-46949D1B1C2E@yahoo.com> Hey Tim, Happy belated 3/17! There?s a guy named Kas (can?t remember the last name) that did some dyno tuning awhile back - he even wrote a book or two about it?. But in all seriousness, I?ve done mine by the (Comp Prep Manual) book. Base and total is easy but it takes a bunch of fiddling to get the ?Kas curve?. Has worked great but I?ll admit that I?ve never gone beyond that. Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer Albuquerque NM > On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:27 PM, timmmurphh--- via Fot wrote: > > What advance curve are folks using in their race engines? I have 87mm pistons, a Kastner G3 cam and about a 12:1 compression ratio. I am using about 19 degrees advance at idle (no centrifugal advance) and 30 degrees advance at 3000 RPM. I don?t know what I have at higher RPM?s because I never looked. I?m currently doing an engine rebuild so I will have to look what I?ve got at the higher RPM?s when I get the engine running. I?m curious as to what others are using and if anyone has done any testing on a dyno with different advance curves. > > Thanks in advance for your input. > > Tim Murphy > #317 BRG TR4 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lunkercars at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vfracing at aol.com Fri Mar 19 16:45:40 2021 From: vfracing at aol.com (Phil Gott) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 18:45:40 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine In-Reply-To: <644494D3-BBA1-492F-BB54-46949D1B1C2E@yahoo.com> References: <644494D3-BBA1-492F-BB54-46949D1B1C2E@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5CF86C98-262E-425F-9B70-5136226CD4DD@aol.com> The Advance curve is all done at about 3000 rpm. 30 degrees total advance is about right. Will depend on your particular engine, but might be best to back off 2-4 degrees. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2021, at 6:41 PM, Greg Hilyer via Fot wrote: > > ? > Hey Tim, > Happy belated 3/17! > There?s a guy named Kas (can?t remember the last name) that did some dyno tuning awhile back - he even wrote a book or two about it?. > But in all seriousness, I?ve done mine by the (Comp Prep Manual) book. Base and total is easy but it takes a bunch of fiddling to get the ?Kas curve?. Has worked great but I?ll admit that I?ve never gone beyond that. > Greg ?Lunker? Hilyer > Albuquerque NM > >> On Mar 19, 2021, at 4:27 PM, timmmurphh--- via Fot wrote: >> >> What advance curve are folks using in their race engines? I have 87mm pistons, a Kastner G3 cam and about a 12:1 compression ratio. I am using about 19 degrees advance at idle (no centrifugal advance) and 30 degrees advance at 3000 RPM. I don?t know what I have at higher RPM?s because I never looked. I?m currently doing an engine rebuild so I will have to look what I?ve got at the higher RPM?s when I get the engine running. I?m curious as to what others are using and if anyone has done any testing on a dyno with different advance curves. >> >> Thanks in advance for your input. >> >> Tim Murphy >> #317 BRG TR4 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/lunkercars at yahoo.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at tonydrews.com Fri Mar 19 16:53:55 2021 From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:53:55 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine In-Reply-To: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> References: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a1bf8a9-c9da-f0d8-6f8d-38f146cc9112@tonydrews.com> When I had crank fire ignition I did test it on the dyno and found that a slight retard as RPM's went up helped (at least that's how I remember it - up to 34 / 35 at 3000 rpm but down to 32 at 6000).? But with my more vintage points system, the advance is "all in" at 3000 rpm.? I just set to 30 degrees or 32 degrees or if I'm feeling particularly lucky / brave / stupid 34 degrees at max.? Whatever it ends up at low rpm is where it ends up.? When racing I'm never under 3000 RPM anyway. Regards, Tony On 3/19/2021 5:27 PM, timmmurphh--- via Fot wrote: > > What advance curve are folks using in their race engines? I have 87mm > pistons, a Kastner G3 cam and about a 12:1 compression ratio. I am > using about 19 degrees advance at idle (no centrifugal advance) and 30 > degrees advance at 3000 RPM.? I don?t know what I have at higher RPM?s > because I never looked. I?m currently doing an engine rebuild so I > will have to look what I?ve got at the higher RPM?s when I get the > engine running. I?m curious as to what others are using and if anyone > has done any testing on a dyno with different advance curves. > > Thanks in advance for your input. > > Tim Murphy > > #317 BRG TR4 > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Sat Mar 20 04:07:52 2021 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2021 11:07:52 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine In-Reply-To: <4a1bf8a9-c9da-f0d8-6f8d-38f146cc9112@tonydrews.com> References: <000001d71d0f$1d7327c0$58597740$@gmail.com> <4a1bf8a9-c9da-f0d8-6f8d-38f146cc9112@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <1740119188.30733160.1616234872404.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> Without the possibility of computer ignition mapping, the most important thing is the maximum total advance. This can start from 3000rpm or higher, depending on the distributor springs. 2 degrees is already making a significant difference for horsepower. On a dyno one can find at what advance the engine is making the best power, but it is all important to find out if the power is not dropping after 20 or 30 seconds (detonation). And the the circumstances on a race week-end can be different : if one is arriving at 30? during a dyno session, it is possible that only 28? is safe on a particular day. Total maximum advance can differ considerably (compression ratio,...). I believe that a fresh engine tends to pre-ignition more easily because of glowing spots : protruding headgasket(wich should be avoided of course), sharp machining edges...In an older engine the surfaces of the combustion chambers will be smoother Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Vrijdag 19 maart 2021 23:53:55 Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Distributor centrifugal advance curve for race engine When I had crank fire ignition I did test it on the dyno and found that a slight retard as RPM's went up helped (at least that's how I remember it - up to 34 / 35 at 3000 rpm but down to 32 at 6000). But with my more vintage points system, the advance is "all in" at 3000 rpm. I just set to 30 degrees or 32 degrees or if I'm feeling particularly lucky / brave / stupid 34 degrees at max. Whatever it ends up at low rpm is where it ends up. When racing I'm never under 3000 RPM anyway. Regards, Tony On 3/19/2021 5:27 PM, timmmurphh--- via Fot wrote: What advance curve are folks using in their race engines? I have 87mm pistons, a Kastner G3 cam and about a 12:1 compression ratio. I am using about 19 degrees advance at idle (no centrifugal advance) and 30 degrees advance at 3000 RPM. I don?t know what I have at higher RPM?s because I never looked. I?m currently doing an engine rebuild so I will have to look what I?ve got at the higher RPM?s when I get the engine running. I?m curious as to what others are using and if anyone has done any testing on a dyno with different advance curves. Thanks in advance for your input. 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Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053 704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f) mhc-law.com | jhasty at mhc-law.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by a law firm on a legal matter. It may contain information that is confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message, any part of it, or any attachments. If you have received this message in error, please delete this message and any attachments from your system without reading the content and notify the sender immediately of the inadvertent transmission. There is no intent on the part of the sender to waive any privilege, including the attorney-client privilege, that may attach to this communication. Thank you for your cooperation. 11 U.S.C. 528(a)(4) NOTICE. 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I built a very nice TR-3B when I retired from active racing in the late 90's.? Phil Bradbury (who now lives just down the road from me..,. go figure) bought the car from me and raced it for a number of years.? He asked me to co-drive with him in an enduro at Mid-Ohio few years later.? I know Phil traded the car for a race Camaro, but I'm not sure what happened to it after that.? I've never seen it race since.? Does anyone on the list know where my old TR-3B is these days?? It was British Racing Green and had a full cage in it.? If anyone has info as to it's whereabouts, please let me or John know.? The last I knew, it was in the Southeast somewhere. Jack On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 1:53:20 PM EDT, John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph.? Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured.? It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH.? I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes.? The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it.? I am now in the market for another 3 or 4.? If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know.? Cheers! | | ? John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053 704.864.6751?(p)?704.861.8394?(f) mhc-law.com?|?jhasty at mhc-law.com ? ? | CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by a law firm on a legal matter. It may contain information that is confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. 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M?rz 2021 18:52 An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] TR3A #116 I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. 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Hasty via Fot Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:51 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR3A #116 I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. 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M?rz 2021 18:52 An: fot at autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] TR3A #116 I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., PO. 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URL: From paulricco at att.net Sun Mar 21 15:40:59 2021 From: paulricco at att.net (Paul Ricco) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:40:59 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3A #116 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C035C19-25AB-4F44-9955-5EDF0A3C72D0@att.net> John, I am very sorry to hear about your car. I am glad to hear that you are OK. If I run across anything, I will email you. I do believe that there are a couple of race TR4?s list on www.race-cars.com I do not know anything about either one from personal experience. If you find something in the midwest, I may be heading to North Carolina with my trailer to pick something up. I will be pretty empty headed that way. I could help get something most of the way to you from this area. Good luck finding a car. Again, sorry to hear about your yellow TR3B. I thought is was a very cool car when I saw it Watkins. Paul Ricco (813) 716-1931 > On Mar 21, 2021, at 12:51 PM, John H. Hasty via Fot wrote: > > I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney at Law > Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. > 301 S. York St., > P.O. 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Hasty via Fot wrote: > > ? > I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! > > > John H. Hasty > Attorney at Law > Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. > 301 S. York St., > P.O. 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We help people file for bankruptcy relief under the federal Bankruptcy Code. > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 21 16:23:05 2021 From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 22:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] TR3A #116 In-Reply-To: <003c01d71e93$1a35d3c0$4ea17b40$@rogers.com> References: <001001d71e8a$b3037f70$190a7e50$@gmail.com> <003c01d71e93$1a35d3c0$4ea17b40$@rogers.com> Message-ID: <388041610.1284906.1616365385644@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Paul.? That was my car at one time.? I bought it from Jerry Pierce (Anderson, IN) shortly before he died way too young.? It was a right hand drive car at that time.? Jerry also had a 1962 TR-4 (CT-311), which he bought new and drove it to the races.? He had a picture of the car racing at Watkins Glen in the early 60's.? He wanted to go faster, so he bought a "prepared" race car and campaigned it through the 70's.? I raced against him a number of times at IRP, from 1974 on.? After I crashed my car at The Runoffs in 1993, Jerry contacted me to see if I would be interested in buying both of his cars and lots of parts.? He was planning his estate (sadly).? He had last raced the 37 car sometime in the late 70's, brought the car home after the race and parked it in his basement.? That's where it sat, until I purchased it in 1994. I was in the process of rebuilding my race car, and his car was just too original to mess it up according to SCCA rules at the time.? So, I went through it mechanically, left the number 37 on it and sold it to Chip Bond.? The rest, I guess is known history to this group.? The ad brought back some fond memories.? Thanks. Regards, Jack On Sunday, March 21, 2021, 4:46:27 PM EDT, Paul MacDonald via Fot wrote: http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/triumph/1591709749/1591709749ss.htm ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hasty via Fot > *Sent:* Sunday, March 21, 2021 1:51 PM > *To:* fot at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Fot] TR3A #116 > > > I am sad to report that my Yellow TR3A was completely destroyed at > Charlotte Motor Speedway yesterday when I hit the inside retaining wall on > the back straight at 110 mph. Fortunately I hit rear end first and was not > injured. It occurred when I was passing a Miata about half way down the > NASCAR back straight at 110 MPH. I was passing him in the middle of the > three lanes when he moved up into the middle lane to block me causing me to > avoid him by moving to the outside of the three lanes. The Miata driver > claims I came down on him, I am certain I did not, and those who witnessed > the crash agree with me, but so be it. I am now in the market for another > 3 or 4. If any of you know of a potential car, please let me know. Cheers! > > > > *John H. Hasty* > > *Attorney at Law* > > *Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A.* > > 301 S. York St., > > P.O. Box 488 > > Gastonia, NC 28053 > > 704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f) > > mhc-law.com | jhasty at mhc-law.com > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by > a law firm on a legal matter. It may contain information that is > confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from > disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate > this message, any part of it, or any attachments. If you have received this > message in error, please delete this message and any attachments from your > system without reading the content and notify the sender immediately of the > inadvertent transmission. There is no intent on the part of the sender to > waive any privilege, including the attorney-client privilege, that may > attach to this communication. Thank you for your cooperation. 11 U.S.C. > 528(a)(4) NOTICE. We are a debt relief agency. 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On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:45:14 -0400, Paul MacDonald via Fot wrote: ? http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/triumph/1591709749/1591709749ss.htm ? ? _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sun Mar 21 21:33:14 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 22:33:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] TR3A #116 In-Reply-To: <1616379534.byft2y54748oog0s@webmail.lumos.net> References: <1616379534.byft2y54748oog0s@webmail.lumos.net> Message-ID: <98C9391D-CF7A-4FFC-B0C9-BFF0D4C1B28B@gmail.com> Yup. That was it. John says, ?I know someone that can make the listhappen?. Enter stage left, Mark Bradakis. And this happened at Mid-Ohio while those guys were fabricating an adjustable camber front suspension. The rest is history. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:19 PM, R. John Lye via Fot wrote: > > ? > Wow, I knew that car very well back in the day. It was while Chip was racing it at > Mid-Ohio that Joe Alexander and I first talked about what eventually became the > FOT. Lots of stories and memories associated with that car. > > John > > > On Sun, 21 Mar 2021 16:45:14 -0400, Paul MacDonald via Fot wrote: > > http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/triumph/1591709749/1591709749ss.htm > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rjl6n at cstone.net > > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/joealexandervintage at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The link is to a video, onboard of the car of Vanderwal (MGB) Marcel Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Woensdag 24 maart 2021 18:23:40 Onderwerp: [Fot] TR3A Does anyone know if John Fedderouche (SP) sold his purple TR3 or have his contact info.?? John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053 704.864.6751 (p) 704.861.8394 (f) [ http://mhc-law.com/ | mhc-law.com ] | [ mailto:akisby-meadows at mhc-law.com | jhasty at mhc-law.com ] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission has been sent by a law firm on a legal matter. It may contain information that is confidential, privileged, proprietary, or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message, any part of it, or any attachments. 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Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 12907 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be Wed Mar 24 15:00:42 2021 From: van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be (van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 22:00:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: [Fot] TR3A In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2128630382.43915728.1616619642180.JavaMail.zimbra@telenet.be> [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgRukpM2v3M | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgRukpM2v3M ] Same accident from the pits building Van: "fot" Aan: "fot" Verzonden: Woensdag 24 maart 2021 18:23:40 Onderwerp: [Fot] TR3A Does anyone know if John Fedderouche (SP) sold his purple TR3 or have his contact info.?? John H. Hasty Attorney at Law Mullen Holland & Cooper P.A. 301 S. York St., P.O. 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We help people file for bankruptcy relief under the federal Bankruptcy Code. _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel at telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Mar 28 09:54:50 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:54:50 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. References: Message-ID: Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, according to Robert Goldman. The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, Erik. I am pleased. Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image0.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 106936 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Mar 28 10:13:07 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:13:07 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C7FCB3A-BB32-4601-92F0-4BCBA6014547@cs.com> This was meant for Kas. I don?t know how it ended up going to the FOT. My apologies. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Fred and Mary Hodgson wrote: > > ? > Congrats on becoming a great grandpa Joe! > > Fred Hodgson > > From: Fot on behalf of Joe Alexander via Fot > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 9:54 AM > To: Kas Kastner ; FOT > Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. > > Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. > > In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, according to Robert Goldman. > > The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. > > Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. > > The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. > > There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, Erik. I am pleased. > > Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. > > > In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. > > > > > The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/stlnyc at msn.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 10:16:02 2021 From: continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com (Shawn Frank) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:16:02 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Big, big congratulations, GG Joe!!! It seems you have developed a worthy empire. You must be as proud as you are thrilled. The Alexander empire has to be ecstatic to have such a great pacesetter as their commander. You are truly an icon! I wish I could make the HOF event but our move, the Kastner Cup, and VTR2021 have all of my vacation hours spoken for. Shawn Frank The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead Continued Legacy Photo - Owner Iowa British Car Club FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver 515-339-4228 '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" On Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 10:56 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. > > In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, > according to Robert Goldman. > > The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation > in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing > issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with > unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. > > Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start > to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of > your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. > > The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to > Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know > the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a > contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. > > There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, > Erik. I am pleased. > > Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and > order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. > But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. > > > In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. > > > > The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. > > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From n197tr4 at cs.com Sun Mar 28 10:22:29 2021 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:22:29 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <06961E79-0C54-4C15-B68B-7754B406C172@cs.com> Thanks Shawn. The HOF thing has essentially been cancelled. Covid and other complications. We are going to do a piece of it at PIR and again at the VTR convention. It falls nicely into place for you. We should talk. Lots going on. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Shawn Frank via Fot wrote: > > ? > Big, big congratulations, GG Joe!!! > > It seems you have developed a worthy empire. You must be as proud as you are thrilled. The Alexander empire has to be ecstatic to have such a great pacesetter as their commander. You are truly an icon! > > I wish I could make the HOF event but our move, the Kastner Cup, and VTR2021 have all of my vacation hours spoken for. > > Shawn Frank > The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor > North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner > Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead > Continued Legacy Photo - Owner > Iowa British Car Club > FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 > Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver > 515-339-4228 > > > '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" > '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 > '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" > >> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 10:56 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >> Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. >> >> In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, according to Robert Goldman. >> >> The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. >> >> Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. >> >> The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. >> >> There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, Erik. I am pleased. >> >> Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. >> >> >> In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. >> >> >> >> The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. >> >> >> Joe Alexander >> 4505 Donald Dr >> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joealexandervintage at gmail.com Sun Mar 28 10:25:17 2021 From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:25:17 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Watching F1. Wondering if you are. In-Reply-To: <06961E79-0C54-4C15-B68B-7754B406C172@cs.com> References: <06961E79-0C54-4C15-B68B-7754B406C172@cs.com> Message-ID: <3798FA4D-8DB1-4BB0-B804-BC5E67F27385@gmail.com> I did it again....should have just gone to Shawn. I will quit sending messages. Joe Alexander 4505 Donald Dr Cedar Falls, IA 50613 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:23 AM, Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: > > ?Thanks Shawn. > > The HOF thing has essentially been cancelled. Covid and other complications. > > We are going to do a piece of it at PIR and again at the VTR convention. It falls nicely into place for you. We should talk. Lots going on. > > Joe Alexander > 4505 Donald Dr > Cedar Falls, IA 50613 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > >>> On Mar 28, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Shawn Frank via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Big, big congratulations, GG Joe!!! >> >> It seems you have developed a worthy empire. You must be as proud as you are thrilled. The Alexander empire has to be ecstatic to have such a great pacesetter as their commander. You are truly an icon! >> >> I wish I could make the HOF event but our move, the Kastner Cup, and VTR2021 have all of my vacation hours spoken for. >> >> Shawn Frank >> The Vintage Triumph Magazine - Editor >> North American Triumphs (FKA Spitfire & GT6 Magazine) - Owner >> Des Moines Concours d'Elegance - Recruiting Lead >> Continued Legacy Photo - Owner >> Iowa British Car Club >> FOT/VTR#94692/NASS#746 >> Drive Away Cancer Iowa - Driver >> 515-339-4228 >> >> >> '71 Triumph Spitfire MKIV "Gertrude" >> '72 Triumph GT6 MK3 >> '65 Triumph TR4A "Johnny" >> >>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2021, 10:56 AM Joe Alexander via Fot wrote: >>> Progress continues on HOF and Kastner Cup. >>> >>> In April, Moss has a contractor moving walls and preparing the HOF area, according to Robert Goldman. >>> >>> The HOF event for the 5th of June has been scaled back to one presentation in conjunction with a MG Convention at Petersburg. Because of continuing issues with Covid and the acquisition of Victoria British, along with unprecedented parts ordering. Moss has backed down from having Car Show. >>> >>> Gary Kincel...and perhaps me....will arrive in advance, in June, and start to prepare the displays and hang the permanent HOF plaques. Logistics of your stuff is unclear, but I will get it done. >>> >>> The Kastner Cup planning is moving along quite nicely. I am a huge help to Curt Johnston. He is a professional in this kind of organizing, but I know the details. We spent 1:30 on the phone yesterday. It?s nice to make a contribution without feeling the crush of responsibility. >>> >>> There will be five Alexander Boys at PIR. Mark is going to bring his son, Erik. I am pleased. >>> >>> Sean and Brendan are doing a great job with inventory. Packaging, and order fulfillment. That leaves me free to focus on marketing and sales. But also on adding new product......I can?t help myself. I enjoy it. >>> >>> >>> In the midst of everything, I am a newly minted GREAT GRAND FATHER. Emory. >>> >>> >>> >>> The offspring is really quite a group to be proud of. >>> >>> >>> Joe Alexander >>> 4505 Donald Dr >>> Cedar Falls, IA 50613 >>> The-vintage-racer.com >>> Gasketinnovations.com >>> Cell: 319.464.4711 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/continuedlegacy1 at gmail.com >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In the past we've set up outside turn 2 in the grassy area.? Thanks for doing the Chief Stewart gig! Regards, Tony Drews (Tr-4 #95) On 3/28/2021 1:30 PM, Doug Mitchell via Fot wrote: > Amici, > We're about 5 weeks out from Spring?Brake, just wondering how many of > you are attending? If you are, I'll be there, hopefully set up near > the tech shed/timing building. Look for an Avenger travel trailer and > a dark red (looks black) F150. I'm not racing, but I am the Chief > Steward. Please stop by and say hi. Just so long as it isn't an > official visit. > > Stay safe, > Doug Mitchell > dbm.spitfire at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony at tonydrews.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cudapilot at comcast.net Sun Mar 28 14:53:42 2021 From: cudapilot at comcast.net (Brian Garcia) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 15:53:42 -0500 Subject: [Fot] VSCDA Spring Brake In-Reply-To: <6d20d716-a708-c14e-b2d0-fd1cba9b68e1@tonydrews.com> References: <6d20d716-a708-c14e-b2d0-fd1cba9b68e1@tonydrews.com> Message-ID: <78735470-F4D6-4A76-AE2B-C487D5F9350D@comcast.net> I?ll be there with the Barracuda. Brian Garcia Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 28, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote: > > ? > I'll be there, I think Murphys are planning to come too. In the past we've set up outside turn 2 in the grassy area. Thanks for doing the Chief Stewart gig! > > Regards, Tony Drews (Tr-4 #95) > > On 3/28/2021 1:30 PM, Doug Mitchell via Fot wrote: >> Amici, >> We're about 5 weeks out from Spring Brake, just wondering how many of you are attending? If you are, I'll be there, hopefully set up near the tech shed/timing building. Look for an Avenger travel trailer and a dark red (looks black) F150. I'm not racing, but I am the Chief Steward. Please stop by and say hi. 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