[Fot] Frame paint

[Scott Janzen]

Excellent caution note, thanks!
I’d always understood that powder coating could hide cracks below the surface - on a frame, for example, just as chroming hides cracks on suspension parts you may want to crack check.  Maybe appropriate for a show car, but for a race car, not so good.  Is this incorrect? 

On Sep 28, 2023, at 10:31 PM, Joe Boruch via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Most of the two part urethane paints are hazardous like Imron.  The hardener is isocyanate, which can cause severe allergic reactions when inhaled.  Once allergic to it, a person can react to it with every exposure.  Isocyanate is the chemical that was responsible for the deaths in the Bopal, India chemical disaster many years ago.  Be sure to use a good tight fitting cartridge respirator when spraying these urethanes, but I think most safety instructions say to use a supplied air respirator.  

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 07:23:56 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Hi Joe.  When I bought the Imron for my car in 1980, the guy wouldn't sell it to me unless I also bought the respirator he recommended!  Strong stuff.

Jack

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 11:33:26 AM EDT, Joe Alexander <joealexandervintage at gmail.com> wrote:


In the 70s we were painting John Deere Tractors in DuPont Imron. What wasn’t done by robots was done by painters in HazMat Suits.

Joe Alexander
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> On Sep 28, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> I don't know if it is even still available, but years ago I painted the frame on my race car with Dupont Imron.  It was the most durable paint available at the time, and my experience reflected that.  The stuff is very toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.
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> Jack
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> On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Grey will show cracks better than black.  POR is the first thing that came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.
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> Cheers, Tony
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> On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:
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> I'd suggest POR 15.  Depending on the color, the number changes.  I think 15 is black.  Gray is something else, maybe 10.  Spray or brush on.  I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray cans are perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get it just about anywhere.  POR products might be a little more durable than Rustoleum.  If the frame is bare metal, an epoxy primer is a good start, but with POR I "think" you can skip the primer.  
> Dave H.  
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> On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> <mailto:fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Hi All. 
>   It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and I'm just wondering what the latest / greatest thing to use is for a race car frame ? It's already sand blasted if that matters..
>    Thanks.  P.J.
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