From mecook at mindspring.com  Tue Apr  1 18:04:38 2025
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 00:04:38 +0000
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare Run - Vintage Races March 28-30, 2025 (Video)
Message-ID: <d9aa49aa-34f4-0995-c61d-5c402f7520c1@mindspring.com>

Those that were at the VDCA Wild Hare at VIR this past weekend.  Was great to see you, meeting some of you in person for the first time.  Wish I could have been chasing you in Group 3, but ended up having a lot of fun in Group 8.

Below are some links to my in-car video.  After some 2:28s and 2:30s in practice/qualifying Friday, gradually improved through each race with my weekend best of 2:19.1 in the Sunday Race &ndash; finished P4 overall, with the &rsquo;71 Datsun 240z slipping by me on the white flag lap (rookie mistake on my part).  Lots more room for improvement, and still learning the #95 TR6!

(Ignore the gear number in my videos.  My math channel for &ldquo;PreCalcGear&rdquo; in the AiM system was not working correctly.)

Group 8 Saturday Race 1
https://youtu.be/1plkXrN0xyo?si=BWHpXvn5ngf3sdoW

Group 8 Saturday Feature Race
https://youtu.be/xZYkJOFxSrg?si=3UcWZRYHFlsZhnjD

Sunday Enduro (only ran a few laps mainly to warm up for the afternoon race)
https://youtu.be/GBooqRwtGRI?si=Yv0-1mnflTSdiLT-

Group 8 Sunday Race
https://youtu.be/fFKwh2QUazk?si=R-Ofxr-eTBs_9OMn

Really enjoyed the weekend, and as well as joining you at dinner on Saturday!

Regards,

Mark Cook
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From thompsong at prodigy.net  Tue Apr  1 19:49:38 2025
From: thompsong at prodigy.net (GREGORY THOMPSON)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 01:49:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare Run - Vintage Races March 28-30,
 2025 (Video)
References: <124000218.646480.1743558578001.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <124000218.646480.1743558578001@mail.yahoo.com>

It was good to meet more of the FOT group. We had a great time with the VDCA group and hope to be back again. See you all at?Lime Rock for the K-Cup?and the Glen this fall.?
Greg?

Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Tuesday, April 1, 2025, 8:14 PM, Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Those that were at the VDCA Wild Hare at VIR this past weekend.? Was great to see you, meeting some of you in person for the first time.? Wish I could have been chasing you in Group 3, but ended up having a lot of fun in Group 8.

?

Below are some links to my in-car video.? After some 2:28s and 2:30s in practice/qualifying Friday, gradually improved through each race with my weekend best of 2:19.1 in the Sunday Race ? finished P4 overall, with the ?71 Datsun 240z slipping by me on the white flag lap (rookie mistake on my part).? Lots more room for improvement, and still learning the #95 TR6!

?

(Ignore the gear number in my videos.? My math channel for ?PreCalcGear? in the AiM system was not working correctly.)

?

Group 8 Saturday Race 1

https://youtu.be/1plkXrN0xyo?si=BWHpXvn5ngf3sdoW

?

Group 8 Saturday Feature Race

https://youtu.be/xZYkJOFxSrg?si=3UcWZRYHFlsZhnjD

?

Sunday Enduro (only ran a few laps mainly to warm up for the afternoon race)

https://youtu.be/GBooqRwtGRI?si=Yv0-1mnflTSdiLT-

?

Group 8 Sunday Race

https://youtu.be/fFKwh2QUazk?si=R-Ofxr-eTBs_9OMn

?

Really enjoyed the weekend, and as well as joining you at dinner on Saturday!

?

Regards,

?

Mark Cook
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From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  2 07:06:21 2025
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 09:06:21 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare Run - Vintage Races March 28-30,
 2025 (Video)
In-Reply-To: <d9aa49aa-34f4-0995-c61d-5c402f7520c1@mindspring.com>
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Nice videos Mark!  It?s good to see this car back on the track.

Great hanging out with you at VIR.  See you next time!

Chuck

> On Apr 1, 2025, at 8:13?PM, Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Those that were at the VDCA Wild Hare at VIR this past weekend.  Was great to see you, meeting some of you in person for the first time.  Wish I could have been chasing you in Group 3, but ended up having a lot of fun in Group 8.
>  
> Below are some links to my in-car video.  After some 2:28s and 2:30s in practice/qualifying Friday, gradually improved through each race with my weekend best of 2:19.1 in the Sunday Race ? finished P4 overall, with the ?71 Datsun 240z slipping by me on the white flag lap (rookie mistake on my part).  Lots more room for improvement, and still learning the #95 TR6!
>  
> (Ignore the gear number in my videos.  My math channel for ?PreCalcGear? in the AiM system was not working correctly.)
>  
> Group 8 Saturday Race 1
> https://youtu.be/1plkXrN0xyo?si=BWHpXvn5ngf3sdoW
>  
> Group 8 Saturday Feature Race
> https://youtu.be/xZYkJOFxSrg?si=3UcWZRYHFlsZhnjD
>  
> Sunday Enduro (only ran a few laps mainly to warm up for the afternoon race)
> https://youtu.be/GBooqRwtGRI?si=Yv0-1mnflTSdiLT-
>  
> Group 8 Sunday Race
> https://youtu.be/fFKwh2QUazk?si=R-Ofxr-eTBs_9OMn
>  
> Really enjoyed the weekend, and as well as joining you at dinner on Saturday!
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Mark Cook
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> 
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Wed Apr  2 07:33:51 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 09:33:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] The Wild Hare at VIR
Message-ID: <1409c16eb6d7430176b11261090e2ddd@tr4racer.com>

Another great showing of Triumphs at what many consider the season 
opener at Virginia International Raceway. VDCA put on a stellar show, we 
ran on schedule all weekend and the weekend was dry and for the most 
part sunny.

I finally got my act together and finished all the changes I was 
planning on Old Blue, the ex-Bill Dentinger 1956 TR3, and dragged it 
down south to play. When Tony Drews gets to doing his magic with his 
in-car videos, you will see the fruits of my labor. I took a pretty good 
handling TR3 and transformed it into a monster! That did not deter me, I 
kept trying and found the grass 4 times, right in front of Tony twice! 
As our dear friend uncle jack used to say, I am engineering myself to 
the back of the pack.

Tried a Greg Solow cam for the first time, very impressive indeed! 
Thanks Greg!

Great to spend time with everyone, old friends and new. Can't wait to 
work out the kinks with the TR3 and try again.

Henry Frye
2025 and 2026 KCup chair

From mecook at mindspring.com  Wed Apr  2 20:44:42 2025
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 22:44:42 -0400
Subject: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare Run - Vintage Races March 28-30,
 2025 (Video)
In-Reply-To: <196F8DB8-8E39-40C5-B590-AAFB9859E4CB@gmail.com>
References: <d9aa49aa-34f4-0995-c61d-5c402f7520c1@mindspring.com>
 <196F8DB8-8E39-40C5-B590-AAFB9859E4CB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007d01dba442$5abe9d80$103bd880$@mindspring.com>

Chuck,

 

Thanks and really great to see you and enjoyed the company. 

 

Regards,

 

Mark

 

From: chasgee22 at gmail.com [mailto:chasgee22 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2025 9:06 AM
To: Mark Cook
Cc: fot at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] VIR Wild Hare Run - Vintage Races March 28-30, 2025 (Video)

 

Nice videos Mark!  It?s good to see this car back on the track.

 

Great hanging out with you at VIR.  See you next time!

 

Chuck





On Apr 1, 2025, at 8:13?PM, Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?

Those that were at the VDCA Wild Hare at VIR this past weekend.  Was great to see you, meeting some of you in person for the first time.  Wish I could have been chasing you in Group 3, but ended up having a lot of fun in Group 8.

 

Below are some links to my in-car video.  After some 2:28s and 2:30s in practice/qualifying Friday, gradually improved through each race with my weekend best of 2:19.1 in the Sunday Race ? finished P4 overall, with the ?71 Datsun 240z slipping by me on the white flag lap (rookie mistake on my part).  Lots more room for improvement, and still learning the #95 TR6!

 

(Ignore the gear number in my videos.  My math channel for ?PreCalcGear? in the AiM system was not working correctly.)

 

Group 8 Saturday Race 1

https://youtu.be/1plkXrN0xyo?si=BWHpXvn5ngf3sdoW

 

Group 8 Saturday Feature Race

https://youtu.be/xZYkJOFxSrg?si=3UcWZRYHFlsZhnjD

 

Sunday Enduro (only ran a few laps mainly to warm up for the afternoon race)

https://youtu.be/GBooqRwtGRI?si=Yv0-1mnflTSdiLT-

 

Group 8 Sunday Race

https://youtu.be/fFKwh2QUazk?si=R-Ofxr-eTBs_9OMn

 

Really enjoyed the weekend, and as well as joining you at dinner on Saturday!

 

Regards,

 

Mark Cook

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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Apr  2 22:44:57 2025
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 23:44:57 -0500
Subject: [Fot] Videos from VDCA Wild Hare @ VIR last weekend
Message-ID: <bd209d6f-c7d4-445b-8472-fca83c733f38@tonydrews.com>

VIR Wild Hare videos - for those interested

Saturday morning race
I start further back than normal due to still breaking in my engine 
during qualifying.? Get a decent start, have some fun battles including 
with a Honda Civic.
https://youtu.be/TGmw5iZA6xk

Saturday afternoon race
Best race of the weekend for me.? Nice battle with Chuck Gee in his blue 
TR-4.? A co-worker friend, his fiance and their friend stopped by, left 
in some post-race banter between us.
https://youtu.be/mLWYQMjecfc

Sunday afternoon race
The first lap was very interesting, some good dicing for a couple of 
laps then things kind of string out.? Henry is featured in this one for 
a bit.
https://youtu.be/-7FxkxefuIA

A couple of these are still processing up to HD as I post this, but will 
likely be available by the time you click the links.

It was a great weekend.? Got to meet Mark Cook, this was his first 
weekend in his TR-6.? He was blazing fast by the end.? We had a great 
contingent of Triumph races paddocked together in the ghetto.? I talked 
Greg Thompson into coming, sounded like he had a good time, it was 
certainly good hanging out with him and his lovely wife Carol.? Of 
course the usual suspects - Henry and Helen, Mark Wheatley, Leo Oddi 
(defector), Dean Tetterton, etc. Some adult beverages may have been 
consumed and stories told.

Cheers, Tony Drews



From chasgee22 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  3 06:08:45 2025
From: chasgee22 at gmail.com (chasgee22 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 08:08:45 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Videos from VDCA Wild Hare @ VIR last weekend
In-Reply-To: <bd209d6f-c7d4-445b-8472-fca83c733f38@tonydrews.com>
References: <bd209d6f-c7d4-445b-8472-fca83c733f38@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <E7B938C7-835D-46BD-A9A1-034BF0395D86@gmail.com>

Great videos Tony!  I had a great time racing with you last weekend.  It was one of my most enjoyable race weekends ever.  Fun racing and good friends.  The real catalyst though was the Thursday night pizza!

See you all at Lime Rock.

Chuck

> On Apr 3, 2025, at 12:54?AM, Tony Drews via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?VIR Wild Hare videos - for those interested
> 
> Saturday morning race
> I start further back than normal due to still breaking in my engine during qualifying.  Get a decent start, have some fun battles including with a Honda Civic.
> https://youtu.be/TGmw5iZA6xk
> 
> Saturday afternoon race
> Best race of the weekend for me.  Nice battle with Chuck Gee in his blue TR-4.  A co-worker friend, his fiance and their friend stopped by, left in some post-race banter between us.
> https://youtu.be/mLWYQMjecfc
> 
> Sunday afternoon race
> The first lap was very interesting, some good dicing for a couple of laps then things kind of string out.  Henry is featured in this one for a bit.
> https://youtu.be/-7FxkxefuIA
> 
> A couple of these are still processing up to HD as I post this, but will likely be available by the time you click the links.
> 
> It was a great weekend.  Got to meet Mark Cook, this was his first weekend in his TR-6.  He was blazing fast by the end.  We had a great contingent of Triumph races paddocked together in the ghetto.  I talked Greg Thompson into coming, sounded like he had a good time, it was certainly good hanging out with him and his lovely wife Carol.  Of course the usual suspects - Henry and Helen, Mark Wheatley, Leo Oddi (defector), Dean Tetterton, etc. Some adult beverages may have been consumed and stories told.
> 
> Cheers, Tony Drews
> 
> 
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Sun Apr  6 05:02:31 2025
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 11:02:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] In-car cams from VIR #80 TR4
References: <816437825.1266896.1743937351502.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <816437825.1266896.1743937351502@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Amici!
Here's some in car video from my first time at VIR; what a great event! ? ?These are the two Saturday races (had to leave before the Sunday event do to *cough* work). ?I was so happy to see so many Triumph friends at the event; almost a mini K Cup! ?Wish I could have paddocked in the Triumph Ghetto, but was supporting long time family friend with shared crew in his Formula Ford.
The Saturday AM Race 1 had a lot of excitement, with a Bobsey deciding 3 wide is great in Turn 1 and 2, and then later going the wrong way around in the same spot, Chuck Gee showing what he's got, passing me on likely 3 cylinders with a failing condenser, and a red Morgan doing a Dukes of Hazard imitation sailing across South Bend complete with a cloud of red dirt in trail.https://youtu.be/ujDQEVtM8U8
The Feature Race on Saturday afternoon, has some side by side start action at the start, and later managing to get some clear track for a bit allowing me to set my fast lap of the weekend after figuring out some things! ?We changed a lot of "things" for this year, and the car seems happy with the changes! ?Thanks to the FOT brain trust, as well as a nod to JS Performance Motoring for advice and parts that did not disappoint!https://youtu.be/AZ2EUro1WB4

Looking forward to seeing you all again soon!Dave Gott
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Sun Apr  6 07:11:14 2025
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 09:11:14 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Videos from VDCA Wild Hare @ VIR last weekend
In-Reply-To: <bd209d6f-c7d4-445b-8472-fca83c733f38@tonydrews.com>
References: <bd209d6f-c7d4-445b-8472-fca83c733f38@tonydrews.com>
Message-ID: <004b01dba6f5$610b7220$23225660$@mindspring.com>

Tony,

Great videos - finally had  a chance to watch them all this weekend!

Enjoyed seeing everyone.

Regards,

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews via Fot
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2025 12:45 AM
To: Amici Triumphi
Subject: [Fot] Videos from VDCA Wild Hare @ VIR last weekend

VIR Wild Hare videos - for those interested

Saturday morning race
I start further back than normal due to still breaking in my engine 
during qualifying.? Get a decent start, have some fun battles including 
with a Honda Civic.
https://youtu.be/TGmw5iZA6xk

Saturday afternoon race
Best race of the weekend for me.? Nice battle with Chuck Gee in his blue 
TR-4.? A co-worker friend, his fiance and their friend stopped by, left 
in some post-race banter between us.
https://youtu.be/mLWYQMjecfc

Sunday afternoon race
The first lap was very interesting, some good dicing for a couple of 
laps then things kind of string out.? Henry is featured in this one for 
a bit.
https://youtu.be/-7FxkxefuIA

A couple of these are still processing up to HD as I post this, but will 
likely be available by the time you click the links.

It was a great weekend.? Got to meet Mark Cook, this was his first 
weekend in his TR-6.? He was blazing fast by the end.? We had a great 
contingent of Triumph races paddocked together in the ghetto.? I talked 
Greg Thompson into coming, sounded like he had a good time, it was 
certainly good hanging out with him and his lovely wife Carol.? Of 
course the usual suspects - Henry and Helen, Mark Wheatley, Leo Oddi 
(defector), Dean Tetterton, etc. Some adult beverages may have been 
consumed and stories told.

Cheers, Tony Drews


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From mecook at mindspring.com  Sun Apr  6 07:17:24 2025
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 09:17:24 -0400
Subject: [Fot] In-car cams from VIR #80 TR4
In-Reply-To: <816437825.1266896.1743937351502@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <816437825.1266896.1743937351502.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <816437825.1266896.1743937351502@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004c01dba6f6$3d1df260$b759d720$@mindspring.com>

Dave,

 

Enjoyed the videos ? nice consistent laps!  Car sounds great and glad you enjoyed VIR.  VDCA did a wonderful job hosting the event.

 

Regards,

 

Mark

 

 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Gott via Fot
Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2025 7:03 AM
To: FOT Triumph
Subject: [Fot] In-car cams from VIR #80 TR4

 

Hi Amici!

 

Here's some in car video from my first time at VIR; what a great event!    These are the two Saturday races (had to leave before the Sunday event do to *cough* work).  I was so happy to see so many Triumph friends at the event; almost a mini K Cup!  Wish I could have paddocked in the Triumph Ghetto, but was supporting long time family friend with shared crew in his Formula Ford.

 

The Saturday AM Race 1 had a lot of excitement, with a Bobsey deciding 3 wide is great in Turn 1 and 2, and then later going the wrong way around in the same spot, Chuck Gee showing what he's got, passing me on likely 3 cylinders with a failing condenser, and a red Morgan doing a Dukes of Hazard imitation sailing across South Bend complete with a cloud of red dirt in trail.

https://youtu.be/ujDQEVtM8U8

 

The Feature Race on Saturday afternoon, has some side by side start action at the start, and later managing to get some clear track for a bit allowing me to set my fast lap of the weekend after figuring out some things!  We changed a lot of "things" for this year, and the car seems happy with the changes!  Thanks to the FOT brain trust, as well as a nod to JS Performance Motoring for advice and parts that did not disappoint!

https://youtu.be/AZ2EUro1WB4

 

Looking forward to seeing you all again soon!

Dave Gott

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From jeffsnook01 at gmail.com  Sun Apr  6 14:18:57 2025
From: jeffsnook01 at gmail.com (jeffsnook01 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 16:18:57 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Datsun B210 Transmission
Message-ID: <006001dba731$211daa70$6358ff50$@gmail.com>

Hey all, I know this is not Triumph related, but I don't know of a group of
enthusiast that have more general old car knowledge, so here goes:
 
In 1998 my father installed a modified B210 5-speed transmission in his
MGTD.  It certainly helped to have that extra gear for higher cruising speed
(55MPH instead of 45MPH!).  25+ years and many thousands of miles it is time
for a rebuild as it was getting noisy.  It's at a local shop and upon
disassembly the shop says it needs a new cluster shaft.  Terry and I have
searched the internet with no luck finding one.
 
My hope is a FOTer might know someone who might be able to help us locate
one.
 
Thanks for the help!
 
Regards,
 
Jeff Snook
419-344-0319
www.snooksdreamcars.com
 
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From richard467schnabel at gmail.com  Sun Apr  6 14:32:54 2025
From: richard467schnabel at gmail.com (Richard Schnabel)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 16:32:54 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Datsun B210 Transmission
In-Reply-To: <006001dba731$211daa70$6358ff50$@gmail.com>
References: <006001dba731$211daa70$6358ff50$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91249977-0122-4578-95C0-DBC8F7BA2EE0@gmail.com>

Www.peterzekert.com can be of assistance, I suggest .

Maryland Heights MO 

Richard Schnabel 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 6, 2025, at 4:27?PM, Jeff Snook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hey all, I know this is not Triumph related, but I don?t know of a group of enthusiast that have more general old car knowledge, so here goes:
>  
> In 1998 my father installed a modified B210 5-speed transmission in his MGTD.  It certainly helped to have that extra gear for higher cruising speed (55MPH instead of 45MPH!).  25+ years and many thousands of miles it is time for a rebuild as it was getting noisy.  It?s at a local shop and upon disassembly the shop says it needs a new cluster shaft.  Terry and I have searched the internet with no luck finding one.
>  
> My hope is a FOTer might know someone who might be able to help us locate one.
>  
> Thanks for the help!
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Jeff Snook
> 419-344-0319
> www.snooksdreamcars.com
>  
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
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From macdonaldp at rogers.com  Sun Apr  6 15:03:09 2025
From: macdonaldp at rogers.com (macdonaldp at rogers.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 17:03:09 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Datsun B210 Transmission
In-Reply-To: <006001dba731$211daa70$6358ff50$@gmail.com>
References: <006001dba731$211daa70$6358ff50$@gmail.com>
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Try this search engine 

 

https://www.searchtempest.com/search?search_string=B210%205-speed%20transmis
sion
<https://www.searchtempest.com/search?search_string=B210%205-speed%20transmi
ssion&category=8&subcat=pta&cityselect=zip&location=33776&maxDist=50000#gsc.
tab=0>
&category=8&subcat=pta&cityselect=zip&location=33776&maxDist=50000#gsc.tab=0

 

 

Paul

 

From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jeff Snook via Fot
Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2025 4:19 PM
To: 'FOT' <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Datsun B210 Transmission

 

Hey all, I know this is not Triumph related, but I don't know of a group of
enthusiast that have more general old car knowledge, so here goes:

 

In 1998 my father installed a modified B210 5-speed transmission in his
MGTD.  It certainly helped to have that extra gear for higher cruising speed
(55MPH instead of 45MPH!).  25+ years and many thousands of miles it is time
for a rebuild as it was getting noisy.  It's at a local shop and upon
disassembly the shop says it needs a new cluster shaft.  Terry and I have
searched the internet with no luck finding one.

 

My hope is a FOTer might know someone who might be able to help us locate
one.

 

Thanks for the help!

 

Regards,

 

Jeff Snook

419-344-0319

www.snooksdreamcars.com <http://www.snooksdreamcars.com> 

 

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From terrysopher at gmail.com  Sun Apr  6 18:48:51 2025
From: terrysopher at gmail.com (Terry Sopher)
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 20:48:51 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Datsun B210 Transmission
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I would give Futufab a call for a try & vector to where to go!  I met the owners some years ago on a car tour.

> On Apr 6, 2025, at 16:23, Jeff Snook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hey all, I know this is not Triumph related, but I don?t know of a group of enthusiast that have more general old car knowledge, so here goes:
>  
> In 1998 my father installed a modified B210 5-speed transmission in his MGTD.  It certainly helped to have that extra gear for higher cruising speed (55MPH instead of 45MPH!).  25+ years and many thousands of miles it is time for a rebuild as it was getting noisy.  It?s at a local shop and upon disassembly the shop says it needs a new cluster shaft.  Terry and I have searched the internet with no luck finding one.
>  
> My hope is a FOTer might know someone who might be able to help us locate one.
>  
> Thanks for the help!
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Jeff Snook
> 419-344-0319
> www.snooksdreamcars.com
>  
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> fot at autox.team.net
> 
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Sun Apr  6 19:17:46 2025
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 01:17:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Datsun B210 Transmission
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Message-ID: <1381247138.1362520.1743988666566@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi Jeff,
I don?t know anything about this company, but looks like they might be able to source a cluster shaft for you; try giving them a call! ?They say they have good take off parts?. And rebuild these things often.
https://www.midwesttrans.com/product-information/nissan-fs5w71-5-speed-manual-transmissions
Dave Gott


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On Sunday, April 6, 2025, 8:53 PM, Terry Sopher via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

I would give Futufab a call for a try & vector to where to go! ?I met the owners some years ago on a car tour.

On Apr 6, 2025, at 16:23, Jeff Snook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:



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Hey all, I know this is not Triumph related, but I don?t know of a group of enthusiast that have more general old car knowledge, so here goes:

 ?

In 1998 my father installed a modified B210 5-speed transmission in his MGTD.? It certainly helped to have that extra gear for higher cruising speed (55MPH instead of 45MPH!).? 25+ years and many thousands of miles it is time for a rebuild as it was getting noisy.? It?s at a local shop and upon disassembly the shop says it needs a new cluster shaft.? Terry and I have searched the internet with no luck finding one.

 ?

My hope is a FOTer might know someone who might be able to help us locate one.

 ?

Thanks for the help!

 ?

Regards,

 ?

Jeff Snook

419-344-0319

www.snooksdreamcars.com

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From dave at microworks.net  Mon Apr  7 16:07:45 2025
From: dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 22:07:45 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Bookends to history
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In my F500 Red Devil (Car #18) during the first ever Race Weekend at Arizona Motorsports Park (an SCCA Double Regional/National Mar 8-9, 2003) and testing the Triumph TR4A IRS 1965 this past weekend (April 5-6, 2025) during the last ever Track Event.
Look at how fresh that asphalt was and the lack of curbing!
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Same Corner

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From dave at microworks.net  Mon Apr  7 17:22:47 2025
From: dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 23:22:47 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park
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https://youtu.be/MQjU3jhW7Y8

Took the TR4 out in an HPDE3 Session to test how she's handling. I like how she handles but we have developed a lean condition.  Revs fall flat between 4-5k then come back between 5-6k.  Changed jetting and that did not really help. Neither did hotted plugs. Lyman checked valve adjustments. That was not the issue either. It is odd however that we are blowing out the intake gaskets but no issue with the exhaust gaskets.

Lyman figures we are running about 90 hp at the wheel. Hopefully putting it on a dyno next month will help find the lean issue and maybe some more hp from this low compression engine.  This is the motor (and 5 speed Toyota) that was in the Baja Car which needs low compression to deal with low quality fuel in Mexico.  This fall a rebuilt high compression engine along with a 4 speed Triumph box will be installed.

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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  7 17:47:11 2025
From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott)
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 23:47:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park
References: <1404588739.1609426.1744069631146.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Just because I?ve missed this myself and watched others do the same; check timing. ? ?I take it you are running webbers if you mention jetting? ?Curious about fuel pressure?
Normally would sound like detonation if you lose midrange; possible if you have an intake leak even with low compression. ?What do the plugs look like?

I?m likely stating the obvious things, but sometimes the simple is overlooked?.
Hope that helps,Dave Gott


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On Monday, April 7, 2025, 7:39 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

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https://youtu.be/MQjU3jhW7Y8
 
 ?
 
Took the TR4 out in an HPDE3 Session to test how she?s handling. I like how she handles but we have developed a lean condition.? Revs fall flat between 4-5k then come back between 5-6k.? Changed jetting and that did not really help. Neither did hotted plugs. Lyman checked valve adjustments. That was not the issue either. It is odd however that we are blowing out the intake gaskets but no issue with the exhaust gaskets.
 
 ?
 
Lyman figures we are running about 90 hp at the wheel. Hopefully putting it on a dyno next month will help find the lean issue and maybe some more hp from this low compression engine.? This is the motor (and 5 speed Toyota) that was in the Baja Car which needs low compression to deal with low quality fuel in Mexico.? This fall a rebuilt high compression engine along with a 4 speed Triumph box will be installed.
 
 ?
 

 
Dave Riddle
 
Business IT Consulting
 
Office: 480.610.8234
 
Cell: 602.692.5276
 
eMail: dave at microworks.net
 
Website: http://www.microworks.net
 

 
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From dave at microworks.net  Mon Apr  7 18:23:31 2025
From: dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 00:23:31 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park
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Yes on the Webbers. Fuel pressure seemed good as did the color of th eplugs


Dave Riddle
602.692.5276

From: David Gott <triumphsix at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2025 4:47 PM
To: Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net>; FOT (fot at autox.team.net) <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park

Just because I?ve missed this myself and watched others do the same; check timing.    I take it you are running webbers if you mention jetting?  Curious about fuel pressure?

Normally would sound like detonation if you lose midrange; possible if you have an intake leak even with low compression.  What do the plugs look like?

I?m likely stating the obvious things, but sometimes the simple is overlooked?.

Hope that helps,
Dave Gott

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On Monday, April 7, 2025, 7:39 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:

https://youtu.be/MQjU3jhW7Y8



Took the TR4 out in an HPDE3 Session to test how she?s handling. I like how she handles but we have developed a lean condition.  Revs fall flat between 4-5k then come back between 5-6k.  Changed jetting and that did not really help. Neither did hotted plugs. Lyman checked valve adjustments. That was not the issue either. It is odd however that we are blowing out the intake gaskets but no issue with the exhaust gaskets.



Lyman figures we are running about 90 hp at the wheel. Hopefully putting it on a dyno next month will help find the lean issue and maybe some more hp from this low compression engine.  This is the motor (and 5 speed Toyota) that was in the Baja Car which needs low compression to deal with low quality fuel in Mexico.  This fall a rebuilt high compression engine along with a 4 speed Triumph box will be installed.



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From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Mon Apr  7 18:43:32 2025
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 00:43:32 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park
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SU?s or Webers ?
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2025, at 4:46?PM, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
https://youtu.be/MQjU3jhW7Y8

Took the TR4 out in an HPDE3 Session to test how she?s handling. I like how she handles but we have developed a lean condition.  Revs fall flat between 4-5k then come back between 5-6k.  Changed jetting and that did not really help. Neither did hotted plugs. Lyman checked valve adjustments. That was not the issue either. It is odd however that we are blowing out the intake gaskets but no issue with the exhaust gaskets.

Lyman figures we are running about 90 hp at the wheel. Hopefully putting it on a dyno next month will help find the lean issue and maybe some more hp from this low compression engine.  This is the motor (and 5 speed Toyota) that was in the Baja Car which needs low compression to deal with low quality fuel in Mexico.  This fall a rebuilt high compression engine along with a 4 speed Triumph box will be installed.

<http://www.microworks.net/>
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  7 19:38:54 2025
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 01:38:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park
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 Dave, how are the carbs mounted to the manifold?? Do you have the soft mounts?? If so, are the o-rings intact?? Are the "springs" on the mount studs snug?? If not soft mounted, you might be experiencing fuel frothing.? It has been many years since I used Webers, but I recall needing to change to the soft mount system due to issues.??JoeB
    On Monday, April 7, 2025 at 07:52:57 PM EDT, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  
https://youtu.be/MQjU3jhW7Y8
 
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Took the TR4 out in an HPDE3 Session to test how she?s handling. I like how she handles but we have developed a lean condition.? Revs fall flat between 4-5k then come back between 5-6k.? Changed jetting and that did not really help. Neither did hotted plugs. Lyman checked valve adjustments. That was not the issue either. It is odd however that we are blowing out the intake gaskets but no issue with the exhaust gaskets.
 
 ?
 
Lyman figures we are running about 90 hp at the wheel. Hopefully putting it on a dyno next month will help find the lean issue and maybe some more hp from this low compression engine.? This is the motor (and 5 speed Toyota) that was in the Baja Car which needs low compression to deal with low quality fuel in Mexico.? This fall a rebuilt high compression engine along with a 4 speed Triumph box will be installed.
 
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Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 01:53:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park
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 Dave, how are your Webers mounted to the manifold?? If soft mounts, are the o-rings intact?? Are the "springs" tight enough to keep the carbs snug to the manifold?? If not soft mounted you might have a fuel frothing issue?? If has been many years since I used Webers, but I recall needing to change to the soft mounts due to issues.??Joe(B)
    On Monday, April 7, 2025 at 07:52:57 PM EDT, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
  
https://youtu.be/MQjU3jhW7Y8
 
 ?
 
Took the TR4 out in an HPDE3 Session to test how she?s handling. I like how she handles but we have developed a lean condition.? Revs fall flat between 4-5k then come back between 5-6k.? Changed jetting and that did not really help. Neither did hotted plugs. Lyman checked valve adjustments. That was not the issue either. It is odd however that we are blowing out the intake gaskets but no issue with the exhaust gaskets.
 
 ?
 
Lyman figures we are running about 90 hp at the wheel. Hopefully putting it on a dyno next month will help find the lean issue and maybe some more hp from this low compression engine.? This is the motor (and 5 speed Toyota) that was in the Baja Car which needs low compression to deal with low quality fuel in Mexico.? This fall a rebuilt high compression engine along with a 4 speed Triumph box will be installed.
 
 ?
 

 
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From lymanazhd at yahoo.com  Mon Apr  7 22:26:14 2025
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Subject: [Fot] Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 21:30:47 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fwd:  Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park
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From triumphsix at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  8 00:42:20 2025
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Hi Lyman,?
You can get a thick Remflex gasket that should seal that manifold right up. ?I think Brian has those at BFE. ?There?s also the HP gasket that moss sells. That splits the differenence between stock and really thick? also made to seal finicky manifolds.
Hope that helps!Dave G


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On Tuesday, April 8, 2025, 1:04 AM, Lyman Scherer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:


Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2025, at 9:23?PM, Lyman Scherer <lymanazhd at yahoo.com> wrote:



? 2- 40 DCOE, fuel pressure changes 4-5psi now 4.5psi
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2025, at 9:21?PM, Lyman Scherer <lymanazhd at yahoo.com> wrote:



? It is intake leakage.. with stock gasket (stainless covered with fiber material) have blown #4 and #1 ports at different events.?Have used same gasket on same BajaTR3 engine for 7 years, dozens of events, 1000?s of miles without failure!Variable is: TR4 intake and headers that came with #65 car.Systems checked: solid 150+ compression, plugs great! cones grey w/ no oiling, valve clearances not changing set .016? intakes .018? exhaust, timing & advance ok 20? idle 32? advance, carb jetting from past only richened main.Solution? Crappy sealing surface clamping of intake/exhaust stud hardware. Or fab soft copper gasket?
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Yes on the Webbers. Fuel pressure seemed good as did the color of th eplugs
 
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From: David Gott <triumphsix at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, April 7, 2025 4:47 PM
To: Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net>; FOT (fot at autox.team.net) <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park
 
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Just because I?ve missed this myself and watched others do the same; check timing. ? ?I take it you are running webbers if you mention jetting? ?Curious about fuel pressure?
 
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Normally would sound like detonation if you lose midrange; possible if you have an intake leak even with low compression. ?What do the plugs look like?
 
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I?m likely stating the obvious things, but sometimes the simple is overlooked?.
 
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Hope that helps,
 
Dave Gott


 
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On Monday, April 7, 2025, 7:39 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 

https://youtu.be/MQjU3jhW7Y8
 
?
 
Took the TR4 out in an HPDE3 Session to test how she?s handling. I like how she handles but we have developed a lean condition.? Revs fall flat between 4-5k then come back between 5-6k.? Changed jetting and that did not really help. Neither did hotted plugs. Lyman checked valve adjustments. That was not the issue either. It is odd however that we are blowing out the intake gaskets but no issue with the exhaust gaskets.
 
?
 
Lyman figures we are running about 90 hp at the wheel. Hopefully putting it on a dyno next month will help find the lean issue and maybe some more hp from this low compression engine.? This is the motor (and 5 speed Toyota) that was in the Baja Car which needs low compression to deal with low quality fuel in Mexico.? This fall a rebuilt high compression engine along with a 4 speed Triumph box will be installed.
 
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From mckearn2 at gmail.com  Tue Apr  8 12:13:46 2025
From: mckearn2 at gmail.com (McKearn McKearn)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 11:13:46 -0700
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park
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Lyman,
  I have always had good luck while keeping the fuel pressure as close to 3
psi as possible. Larger diameter fuel line may help with fuel flow while
keeping pressure down.
                                        P.J.

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wrote:

>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Lyman Scherer <lymanazhd at yahoo.com>
> *Date:* April 7, 2025 at 9:21:02?PM MST
> *To:* Dave Riddle <Dave at microworks.net>
> *Subject:* *Re: [Fot] Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park*
>
> ?It is intake leakage.. with stock gasket (stainless covered with fiber
> material) have blown #4 and #1 ports at different events.
>  Have used same gasket on same BajaTR3 engine for 7 years, dozens of
> events, 1000?s of miles without failure!
> Variable is: TR4 intake and headers that came with #65 car.
> Systems checked: solid 150+ compression, plugs great! cones grey w/ no
> oiling, valve clearances not changing set .016? intakes .018? exhaust,
> timing & advance ok 20? idle 32? advance, carb jetting from past only
> richened main.
> Solution? Crappy sealing surface clamping of intake/exhaust stud hardware.
> Or fab soft copper gasket?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 7, 2025, at 5:54?PM, Dave  Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> Yes on the Webbers. Fuel pressure seemed good as did the color of th eplugs
>
>
>
>
>
> Dave Riddle
>
> 602.692.5276
>
>
>
> *From:* David Gott <triumphsix at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 7, 2025 4:47 PM
> *To:* Dave Riddle <dave at microworks.net>; FOT (fot at autox.team.net) <
> fot at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Video from yesterday at Arizona Motorsports Park
>
>
>
> Just because I?ve missed this myself and watched others do the same; check
> timing.    I take it you are running webbers if you mention jetting?
> Curious about fuel pressure?
>
>
>
> Normally would sound like detonation if you lose midrange; possible if you
> have an intake leak even with low compression.  What do the plugs look like?
>
>
>
> I?m likely stating the obvious things, but sometimes the simple is
> overlooked?.
>
>
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Dave Gott
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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>
>
>
> On Monday, April 7, 2025, 7:39 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> https://youtu.be/MQjU3jhW7Y8
>
>
>
> Took the TR4 out in an HPDE3 Session to test how she?s handling. I like
> how she handles but we have developed a lean condition.  Revs fall flat
> between 4-5k then come back between 5-6k.  Changed jetting and that did not
> really help. Neither did hotted plugs. Lyman checked valve adjustments.
> That was not the issue either. It is odd however that we are blowing out
> the intake gaskets but no issue with the exhaust gaskets.
>
>
>
> Lyman figures we are running about 90 hp at the wheel. Hopefully putting
> it on a dyno next month will help find the lean issue and maybe some more
> hp from this low compression engine.  This is the motor (and 5 speed
> Toyota) that was in the Baja Car which needs low compression to deal with
> low quality fuel in Mexico.  This fall a rebuilt high compression engine
> along with a 4 speed Triumph box will be installed.
>
>
>
> <http://www.microworks.net/>
> <image001.jpg> <http://www.microworks.net/>
>
> *Dave Riddle*
>
> Business IT Consulting
>
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From lymanazhd at yahoo.com  Tue Apr  8 16:52:46 2025
From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer)
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 15:52:46 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
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Stock TR Moss Motors intake gasket. #1 intake port blow-out, #4 port did same blow-out weeks prior
No exhaust port leaks!!!
This is BajaTR3 engine that never had this issue, raced for years.
Difference: used existing TR4 intakes and headers. Clamping type in not stock TR. Probably the cause!
Are copper gasket available??
Or better recommendations ??
I can have gaskets made, just asking for experienced thoughts.
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From vfracing at aol.com  Wed Apr  9 04:00:32 2025
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 06:00:32 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
In-Reply-To: <C1895137-C51C-4A3B-B9FF-88E98473FE85@yahoo.com>
References: <C1895137-C51C-4A3B-B9FF-88E98473FE85@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5EF0A9E5-2821-43C3-8A6C-B0048DA3A472@aol.com>

Lyman;
Are you certain that the manifold and head mounting surfaces are flat? We?ve seen this with manifolds that have warped a bit.
As Dave recommended earlier, the thicker high performance Remflex gaskets available from Moss or the even thicker ones from Brian at British Frame and Engine will accommodate some of this, but not all. The clamping force is low due to the need for the exhaust manifold to slide on the gasket and hence the limited bolt tightening torque recommended.
Hope this helps,
Phil Gott
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2025, at 7:01?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Stock TR Moss Motors intake gasket. #1 intake port blow-out, #4 port did same blow-out weeks prior
> No exhaust port leaks!!!
> This is BajaTR3 engine that never had this issue, raced for years.
> Difference: used existing TR4 intakes and headers. Clamping type in not stock TR. Probably the cause!
> Are copper gasket available??
> Or better recommendations ??
> I can have gaskets made, just asking for experienced thoughts.
> Cheers, Lyman S.
> 
> 
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> 
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From Vfracing at aol.com  Wed Apr  9 04:01:40 2025
From: Vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 06:01:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
References: <B838AD0D-770A-416B-B0F0-B44BAAE61791.ref@aol.com>
Message-ID: <B838AD0D-770A-416B-B0F0-B44BAAE61791@aol.com>

?Lyman;
Are you certain that the manifold and head mounting surfaces are flat? We?ve seen this with manifolds that have warped a bit.
As Dave recommended earlier, the thicker high performance Remflex gaskets available from Moss or the even thicker ones from Brian at British Frame and Engine will accommodate some of this, but not all. The clamping force is low due to the need for the exhaust manifold to slide on the gasket and hence the limited bolt tightening torque recommended.
Hope this helps,
Phil Gott
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2025, at 7:01?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Stock TR Moss Motors intake gasket. #1 intake port blow-out, #4 port did same blow-out weeks prior
> No exhaust port leaks!!!
> This is BajaTR3 engine that never had this issue, raced for years.
> Difference: used existing TR4 intakes and headers. Clamping type in not stock TR. Probably the cause!
> Are copper gasket available??
> Or better recommendations ??
> I can have gaskets made, just asking for experienced thoughts.
> Cheers, Lyman S.
> 
> 
> <IMG_8470.jpg>
> 
> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
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From vfracing at aol.com  Wed Apr  9 04:55:46 2025
From: vfracing at aol.com (vfracing at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 10:55:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
In-Reply-To: <5EF0A9E5-2821-43C3-8A6C-B0048DA3A472@aol.com>
References: <C1895137-C51C-4A3B-B9FF-88E98473FE85@yahoo.com>
 <5EF0A9E5-2821-43C3-8A6C-B0048DA3A472@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1355207362.1953671.1744196146717@mail.yahoo.com>

 Lyman;
Further to my earlier email: another possible cause is a mis match in the thicknesses of the intake and exhaust manifold flanges. If they are not about the same, the bridges can hang up on the stud and appear to be tight but not really pressing on the flange. ?The cure for this is to either open up the hole in the bridge or weld some pedestals on the thinner flange. ? Or a custom bridge....
Phil
    On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 06:23:46 AM EDT, Philip Gott via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:   

 Lyman;
Are you certain that the manifold and head mounting surfaces are flat? We?ve seen this with manifolds that have warped a bit.
As Dave recommended earlier, the thicker high performance Remflex gaskets available from Moss or the even thicker ones from Brian at British Frame and Engine will accommodate some of this, but not all. The clamping force is low due to the need for the exhaust manifold to slide on the gasket and hence the limited bolt tightening torque recommended.
Hope this helps,
Phil Gott
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 8, 2025, at 7:01?PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Stock TR Moss Motors intake gasket. #1 intake port blow-out, #4 port did same blow-out weeks prior
> No exhaust port leaks!!!
> This is BajaTR3 engine that never had this issue, raced for years.
> Difference: used existing TR4 intakes and headers. Clamping type in not stock TR. Probably the cause!
> Are copper gasket available??
> Or better recommendations ??
> I can have gaskets made, just asking for experienced thoughts.
> Cheers, Lyman S.
> 
> 
> <IMG_8470.jpg>
> 
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Wed Apr  9 06:33:40 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 08:33:40 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
In-Reply-To: <1355207362.1953671.1744196146717@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <C1895137-C51C-4A3B-B9FF-88E98473FE85@yahoo.com>
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 <1355207362.1953671.1744196146717@mail.yahoo.com>
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My money is on this one... Blowing out the bottom of the intake gaskets
means you didn't get nearly enough pressure (if any) from that pesky
lower mounting stud and clamp. I have found if you use anything other
than a stock intake manifold and stock exhaust manifold, you must
scrutinize the area where the clamps will sit to ensure the height is
very similar. Or, modify the clamps by welding on something to make sure
when the clamp rests on the appropriate bits of the intake and exhaust
manifold, when the nut is tightened it puts equal pressure on both
manifolds. Obviously, the mounting face on each manifold needs to be
flat. Assuming you have everything in order, there is no reason a stock
manifold gasket will not work, I have run them when I could not get my
hands on the HD gaskets and they worked fine for me.  

Last thought, the nuts that hold the manifolds on are notorious for
loosening up in time, and especially after the first few heat cycles.
And with everything installed, getting to the two bottom nuts can be a
pain. But, failure to keep them properly torqued leads to blown out
gaskets.

On 2025-04-09 06:55, vfracing--- via Fot wrote:

> Lyman; 
> 
> another possible cause is a mis match in the thicknesses of the intake and exhaust manifold flanges.
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From solarant at hotmail.com  Wed Apr  9 06:48:27 2025
From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 12:48:27 +0000
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
In-Reply-To: <b3312b83d526d9fb5f0455e3b505d26a@tr4racer.com>
References: <C1895137-C51C-4A3B-B9FF-88E98473FE85@yahoo.com>
 <5EF0A9E5-2821-43C3-8A6C-B0048DA3A472@aol.com>
 <1355207362.1953671.1744196146717@mail.yahoo.com>
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What does "blowing out" mean for an intake gasket?

Is it just falling apart from lack of support/clamping?

Or, is it pressure from a return pulse due to valve closing?

Or, is it lots of backfiring?



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From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 8:33 AM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR intake gaskets


My money is on this one... Blowing out the bottom of the intake gaskets means you didn't get nearly enough pressure (if any) from that pesky lower mounting stud and clamp. I have found if you use anything other than a stock intake manifold and stock exhaust manifold, you must scrutinize the area where the clamps will sit to ensure the height is very similar. Or, modify the clamps by welding on something to make sure when the clamp rests on the appropriate bits of the intake and exhaust manifold, when the nut is tightened it puts equal pressure on both manifolds. Obviously, the mounting face on each manifold needs to be flat. Assuming you have everything in order, there is no reason a stock manifold gasket will not work, I have run them when I could not get my hands on the HD gaskets and they worked fine for me.

Last thought, the nuts that hold the manifolds on are notorious for loosening up in time, and especially after the first few heat cycles. And with everything installed, getting to the two bottom nuts can be a pain. But, failure to keep them properly torqued leads to blown out gaskets.




On 2025-04-09 06:55, vfracing--- via Fot wrote:


Lyman;

 another possible cause is a mis match in the thicknesses of the intake and exhaust manifold flanges.
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From tr3a58dean at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 06:56:48 2025
From: tr3a58dean at gmail.com (Dean Tetterton)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 08:56:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
In-Reply-To: <b3312b83d526d9fb5f0455e3b505d26a@tr4racer.com>
References: <C1895137-C51C-4A3B-B9FF-88E98473FE85@yahoo.com>
 <5EF0A9E5-2821-43C3-8A6C-B0048DA3A472@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <CADK3t97G8X_FoWVLGQBBkC1-ZPn2bwPxrPykzEVd1qjMzsEqOQ@mail.gmail.com>

This is correct. The thickness of the clamping surfaces must be the same.
It also helps to tighten the
bottom clamp between the manifolds first. The intake will hang up on the
pin between the intake ports
 and not let the bottom of the intake seat all the way. Sometimes the hole
for the pin is too tight.

Dean


On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 8:41?AM yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> My money is on this one... Blowing out the bottom of the intake gaskets
> means you didn't get nearly enough pressure (if any) from that pesky lower
> mounting stud and clamp. I have found if you use anything other than a
> stock intake manifold and stock exhaust manifold, you must scrutinize the
> area where the clamps will sit to ensure the height is very similar. Or,
> modify the clamps by welding on something to make sure when the clamp rests
> on the appropriate bits of the intake and exhaust manifold, when the nut is
> tightened it puts equal pressure on both manifolds. Obviously, the mounting
> face on each manifold needs to be flat. Assuming you have everything in
> order, there is no reason a stock manifold gasket will not work, I have run
> them when I could not get my hands on the HD gaskets and they worked fine
> for me.
>
> Last thought, the nuts that hold the manifolds on are notorious for
> loosening up in time, and especially after the first few heat cycles. And
> with everything installed, getting to the two bottom nuts can be a pain.
> But, failure to keep them properly torqued leads to blown out gaskets.
>
>
>
> On 2025-04-09 06:55, vfracing--- via Fot wrote:
>
>
> Lyman;
>
>  another possible cause is a mis match in the thicknesses of the intake
> and exhaust manifold flanges.
>
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From rkramer56 at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 07:15:20 2025
From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 08:15:20 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
In-Reply-To: <b3312b83d526d9fb5f0455e3b505d26a@tr4racer.com>
References: <C1895137-C51C-4A3B-B9FF-88E98473FE85@yahoo.com>
 <5EF0A9E5-2821-43C3-8A6C-B0048DA3A472@aol.com>
 <1355207362.1953671.1744196146717@mail.yahoo.com>
 <b3312b83d526d9fb5f0455e3b505d26a@tr4racer.com>
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Getting to the two bottom nuts gets even more difficult when you add a
support bracketing to take the place of the OEM bolting of the intake to
the exhaust manifold that we lose when using a header, thus it is easier to
get it wrong.

On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 7:48?AM yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

> My money is on this one... Blowing out the bottom of the intake gaskets
> means you didn't get nearly enough pressure (if any) from that pesky lower
> mounting stud and clamp. I have found if you use anything other than a
> stock intake manifold and stock exhaust manifold, you must scrutinize the
> area where the clamps will sit to ensure the height is very similar. Or,
> modify the clamps by welding on something to make sure when the clamp rests
> on the appropriate bits of the intake and exhaust manifold, when the nut is
> tightened it puts equal pressure on both manifolds. Obviously, the mounting
> face on each manifold needs to be flat. Assuming you have everything in
> order, there is no reason a stock manifold gasket will not work, I have run
> them when I could not get my hands on the HD gaskets and they worked fine
> for me.
>
> Last thought, the nuts that hold the manifolds on are notorious for
> loosening up in time, and especially after the first few heat cycles. And
> with everything installed, getting to the two bottom nuts can be a pain.
> But, failure to keep them properly torqued leads to blown out gaskets.
>
>
>
> On 2025-04-09 06:55, vfracing--- via Fot wrote:
>
>
> Lyman;
>
>  another possible cause is a mis match in the thicknesses of the intake
> and exhaust manifold flanges.
>
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From jaboruch at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  9 10:48:45 2025
From: jaboruch at yahoo.com (Joe Boruch)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 16:48:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
In-Reply-To: <CADK3t97G8X_FoWVLGQBBkC1-ZPn2bwPxrPykzEVd1qjMzsEqOQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C1895137-C51C-4A3B-B9FF-88E98473FE85@yahoo.com>
 <5EF0A9E5-2821-43C3-8A6C-B0048DA3A472@aol.com>
 <1355207362.1953671.1744196146717@mail.yahoo.com>
 <b3312b83d526d9fb5f0455e3b505d26a@tr4racer.com>
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Message-ID: <1468539206.16604.1744217325670@mail.yahoo.com>

 At one time I removed the pins, tapped the holes in the head and installed studs in place of the pins.? I enlarged the holes in the manifold to accept the new studs.? This gives a more secure way to attach the intake manifold.? I also modified the manifold clamps so that one side is thinner to accommodate the thickness difference between the intake flanges and the header flanges.JoeB
    On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 09:58:28 AM EDT, Dean Tetterton via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 This is correct. The thickness of the clamping surfaces must be the same. It also helps to tighten thebottom clamp between the manifolds first. The intake will hang up on the pin between the intake ports?and not let the bottom of the intake seat all the way. Sometimes the hole for the pin is too tight.
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From yellow-green at sbcglobal.net  Wed Apr  9 11:38:49 2025
From: yellow-green at sbcglobal.net (DENNIS DELAP)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 12:38:49 -0500
Subject: [Fot] GT6 carburetors
References: <3B89A131-FCEB-4BBF-8E93-B0EEFE37C0A0.ref@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <3B89A131-FCEB-4BBF-8E93-B0EEFE37C0A0@sbcglobal.net>

A M I C I
I?ve got a question for the GT6 folks in the group. Was the larger 1 3/4? carburetor fitted to the GT6 towards the end of its run?
Thanks 
Dennis 
Sent from my iPhone

From jason at jsperformancemotoring.com  Wed Apr  9 13:25:48 2025
From: jason at jsperformancemotoring.com (JS Performance Motoring, LLC)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 15:25:48 -0400
Subject: [Fot] GT6 carburetors
In-Reply-To: <3B89A131-FCEB-4BBF-8E93-B0EEFE37C0A0@sbcglobal.net>
References: <3B89A131-FCEB-4BBF-8E93-B0EEFE37C0A0.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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Message-ID: <CAEN1C=R6LC2Jg2zV3w49PFEszUEQdUcJxxw0U-dFAJiJm92gXA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dennis,
         I don't think the GT6 ever received larger carbs.  On the 1973
models I've worked with (swing spring, self adjusting brakes, servo, etc)
, they all still have the 1.5" Zenith Strombergs.


Jason Sukey
JS Performance Motoring, LLC
440.984.7720
jason at jsperformancemotoring.com
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On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 2:45?PM DENNIS DELAP via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> A M I C I
> I?ve got a question for the GT6 folks in the group. Was the larger 1 3/4?
> carburetor fitted to the GT6 towards the end of its run?
> Thanks
> Dennis
> Sent from my iPhone
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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed Apr  9 14:03:25 2025
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 15:03:25 -0500
Subject: [Fot] GT6 carburetors
Message-ID: <43A9BB41-3DD7-4C25-908A-CFE29ADC93BB@multivintage.com>

No.
The GT6 always was sold with the 1.50 strombergs.
The Only difference in GT6 carbs relates to style for various emission requirements. 
And contrary to popular belief the 1:5? set of carbs (for all GT6 racecars) are the only style allowed in both Modern and Vintage rules without some kind of corresponding class change or weight penalty.
Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing 
1969 GT6+  racecars
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2025, at 1:55 PM, DENNIS DELAP via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?A M I C I
> I?ve got a question for the GT6 folks in the group. Was the larger 1 3/4? carburetor fitted to the GT6 towards the end of its run?
> Thanks 
> Dennis 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com  Wed Apr  9 15:45:06 2025
From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 21:45:06 +0000
Subject: [Fot] GT6 carburetors
In-Reply-To: <CAEN1C=R6LC2Jg2zV3w49PFEszUEQdUcJxxw0U-dFAJiJm92gXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3B89A131-FCEB-4BBF-8E93-B0EEFE37C0A0.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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Message-ID: <BN7PR15MB224389236F6F77C26A4E2729E1B42@BN7PR15MB2243.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

Also, I did come to understand why they were called ?Constant Depression? carbs.  Because they constantly made me depressed with how badly they misbehaved.  Mostly, I?m sure, because I didn?t understand them.  But they would stumble and stutter their way through any left-hander.  Awful.  Eventually, I took them off and beat them into a fine powder and replaced them with Webers.



From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of JS Performance Motoring, LLC via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 2:26 PM
To: DENNIS DELAP <yellow-green at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 carburetors

Hi Dennis,
         I don't think the GT6 ever received larger carbs.  On the 1973 models I've worked with (swing spring, self adjusting brakes, servo, etc)  , they all still have the 1.5" Zenith Strombergs.


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On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 2:45?PM DENNIS DELAP via Fot <fot at autox.team.net<mailto:fot at autox.team.net>> wrote:
A M I C I
I?ve got a question for the GT6 folks in the group. Was the larger 1 3/4? carburetor fitted to the GT6 towards the end of its run?
Thanks
Dennis
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From jsukey at gmail.com  Wed Apr  9 16:14:06 2025
From: jsukey at gmail.com (Jason Sukey)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 18:14:06 -0400
Subject: [Fot] GT6 carburetors
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Hi Jason,

SVRA explicitly allows larger SU carbs, no specified classing or weight
penalty.

Triple Webers do get bumped up to DP.


[image: image.png]

Jason



On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 6:05?PM Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> No.
> The GT6 always was sold with the 1.50 strombergs.
> The Only difference in GT6 carbs relates to style for various emission
> requirements.
> And contrary to popular belief the 1:5? set of carbs (for all GT6
> racecars) are the only style allowed in both Modern and Vintage rules
> without some kind of corresponding class change or weight penalty.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969 GT6+  racecars
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 9, 2025, at 1:55 PM, DENNIS DELAP via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?A M I C I
> > I?ve got a question for the GT6 folks in the group. Was the larger 1
> 3/4? carburetor fitted to the GT6 towards the end of its run?
> > Thanks
> > Dennis
> > Sent from my iPhone
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From sjanzen at me.com  Wed Apr  9 16:41:09 2025
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 18:41:09 -0400
Subject: [Fot] GT6 carburetors
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That may be true- the penalty bit, but I?ve been running triple Weber 40s in Vintage for years. Even with that, a well prepared Tr4 is at least a match for my car. I run the Webers because once they?re set up they?re bulletproof, and I have to admit, I love the way they look.
I?m not sure from a performance standpoint they offer a huge edge.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2025, at 6:24?PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?No.
> The GT6 always was sold with the 1.50 strombergs.
> The Only difference in GT6 carbs relates to style for various emission requirements.
> And contrary to popular belief the 1:5? set of carbs (for all GT6 racecars) are the only style allowed in both Modern and Vintage rules without some kind of corresponding class change or weight penalty.
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969 GT6+  racecars
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2025, at 1:55 PM, DENNIS DELAP via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?A M I C I
>> I?ve got a question for the GT6 folks in the group. Was the larger 1 3/4? carburetor fitted to the GT6 towards the end of its run?
>> Thanks
>> Dennis
>> Sent from my iPhone
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From sjanzen at me.com  Wed Apr  9 19:30:44 2025
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Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
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From jason at multivintage.com  Wed Apr  9 20:34:58 2025
From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 21:34:58 -0500
Subject: [Fot] GT6 carburetors
Message-ID: <9B8A59FF-C31E-431F-A290-3B17429BBCD4@multivintage.com>

SVRA actually did a pretty good job with their current classification of the GT6. The choices they make in the classification compared to  other cars (in the same class) favor the GT6. 
Why? Because SVRA references the 1967 SCCA regulations for class approval for group 3. 

Original SCCA classification had the GT6 in E production where it was particularly dominate. Not many cars were prepared for National SCCA competition in the first few years of the new 6 cylinder beast. (Like less than 10 quality SCCA cars  until the 1969 season).
At the end of 1969 and after a banner year of regional and national wins, the car was reclassified after the ARRC at Daytona. 
So for the start of the 1970 season- and ever after,  the GT6 was in D production. 

With the most general sense of reason, and for the sake of a true and accurate Base for ?Period Correct classification??.  
the Triumph GT6 is a D production car and it should run prepared to at or about the 1972 SCCA rules as such. 
Most importantly; with a stock appearing manifold with no more than 2 throats. Stromberg or S.U. 1.5 ? to 1.75? 
To Jason Sukey?s point out? no penalty for an enlarged size of a dual carb set-up. (I?m all in on that footnote)

As far as a triple Webber set-up; with a custom manifold. 
That is a totally different scenario and  was never on these cars in the in the first decades of competition. (Nice try, but Sorry Scott your GT6 didn?t have those Webers on it when it was campaigning for the SCCA DP national championship).
The only exception would be the Dolan?s group 44 car which actually ran in GTU under IMSA rules at the hand of the Great Ted Schumacher!
And, with every trick thrown at it; It?s simply a bump in class. 
Intake Manifold modification, and or extra carbs. = C Production
Lots of other mods = C production
IMSA GTU type GT6= C prod.
A modern E production SCCA well built car  like Anthony Parker?s = C production.
For the record, I don?t care what type of GT6 you build or race.
I love them all. 
But if we are to be fair to the original cars, certain modifications should be evaluated. 
I see 2 types of GT6 race cars that  I?d like to campaign .
1) almost period correct = DP
2) unlimited =CP.
Any type of GT6 is eligible to win the Kastner cup.
 But All GT6 entries are eligible for a public stoning if they are found to be slow.

Jason Ostrowski 
Friendly Ghost Racing 
1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars





Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2025, at 5:41 PM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
> 
> ?That may be true- the penalty bit, but I?ve been running triple Weber 40s in Vintage for years. Even with that, a well prepared Tr4 is at least a match for my car. I run the Webers because once they?re set up they?re bulletproof, and I have to admit, I love the way they look.
> I?m not sure from a performance standpoint they offer a huge edge.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2025, at 6:24?PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?No.
>> The GT6 always was sold with the 1.50 strombergs.
>> The Only difference in GT6 carbs relates to style for various emission requirements.
>> And contrary to popular belief the 1:5? set of carbs (for all GT6 racecars) are the only style allowed in both Modern and Vintage rules without some kind of corresponding class change or weight penalty.
>> Jason Ostrowski
>> Friendly Ghost Racing
>> 1969 GT6+  racecars
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Apr 9, 2025, at 1:55 PM, DENNIS DELAP via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?A M I C I
>>> I?ve got a question for the GT6 folks in the group. Was the larger 1 3/4? carburetor fitted to the GT6 towards the end of its run?
>>> Thanks
>>> Dennis
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Wed Apr  9 21:05:28 2025
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 22:05:28 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
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One note of caution on the Remflex gaskets.? The pre-made ones have 
holes for the intakes that are - to me - too large for the narrow 
sealing surface of my weber cannon manifold.? I buy uncut material from 
them and then cut to size using a sharp knife.? That way the intake 
holes are exactly the same ID as the holes in the head and I get max 
sealing surface.? I think they are fine for stock intake manifolds.

I asked them about making ones with smaller holes and they were willing 
to do that if I paid the tooling costs (which weren't horrible).? I 
declined and just make my own gaskets.

I am a big fan of their gaskets.? They are not reusable generally if you 
care about that (I don't).

If you look at the picture shared of the blown out gasket you can see 
that the lower flange of the intake manifold had very little overlap 
with the gasket.

Cheers, Tony Drews

On 4/9/2025 9:08 PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote:
> Phil? pretty sure you are correct on the mis-match of clamping, 
> headers are a mess, intakes ok. All sealing surfaces are good & flat. 
> Going to start from scratch. Remflex gaskets, nice 3/8 shoulder bolts 
> I have, fab new cross clamps, service headers even though had no 
> exhaust leaks. Thx for advice!
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 9, 2025, at 7:46?AM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Getting to the two bottom nuts gets even more?difficult when you add 
>> a support bracketing to take the place of the OEM bolting of the 
>> intake to the exhaust?manifold that we lose when using a header, thus 
>> it is easier to get it wrong.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 7:48?AM yellow04 via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>     My money is on this one... Blowing out the bottom of the intake
>>     gaskets means you didn't get nearly enough pressure (if any) from
>>     that pesky lower mounting stud and clamp. I have found if you use
>>     anything other than a stock intake manifold and stock exhaust
>>     manifold, you must scrutinize the area where the clamps will sit
>>     to ensure the height is very similar. Or, modify the clamps by
>>     welding on something to make sure when the clamp rests on the
>>     appropriate bits of the intake and exhaust manifold, when the nut
>>     is tightened it puts equal pressure on both manifolds.?Obviously,
>>     the mounting face on each manifold needs to be flat. Assuming you
>>     have everything in order, there is no reason a stock manifold
>>     gasket will not work, I have run them when I could not get my
>>     hands on the HD gaskets and they worked fine for me.
>>
>>     Last thought, the nuts that hold the manifolds on are notorious
>>     for loosening up in time, and especially after the first few heat
>>     cycles. And with everything installed, getting to the two bottom
>>     nuts can be a pain. But, failure to keep them properly torqued
>>     leads to blown out gaskets.
>>
>>
>>     On 2025-04-09 06:55, vfracing--- via Fot wrote:
>>
>>>     Lyman;
>>>     ?another possible cause is a mis match in the thicknesses of the
>>>     intake and exhaust manifold flanges.
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From tr4racing at googlemail.com  Thu Apr 10 05:05:41 2025
From: tr4racing at googlemail.com (tr4racing at googlemail.com)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 13:05:41 +0200
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
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I use silicone to seal intakes and headers.
Never failed.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lyman Scherer via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 12:53 AM
To: Triumph FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets

Stock TR Moss Motors intake gasket. #1 intake port blow-out, #4 port did
same blow-out weeks prior No exhaust port leaks!!!
This is BajaTR3 engine that never had this issue, raced for years.
Difference: used existing TR4 intakes and headers. Clamping type in not
stock TR. Probably the cause!
Are copper gasket available??
Or better recommendations ??
I can have gaskets made, just asking for experienced thoughts.
Cheers, Lyman S.




From sjanzen at me.com  Thu Apr 10 05:58:20 2025
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 07:58:20 -0400
Subject: [Fot] GT6 carburetors
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Great history!  I know mine never ran that way back in the day. It came to me with twin SUs.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 9, 2025, at 10:35?PM, Jason Ostrowski <jason at multivintage.com> wrote:
> 
> ?SVRA actually did a pretty good job with their current classification of the GT6. The choices they make in the classification compared to  other cars (in the same class) favor the GT6.
> Why? Because SVRA references the 1967 SCCA regulations for class approval for group 3.
> 
> Original SCCA classification had the GT6 in E production where it was particularly dominate. Not many cars were prepared for National SCCA competition in the first few years of the new 6 cylinder beast. (Like less than 10 quality SCCA cars  until the 1969 season).
> At the end of 1969 and after a banner year of regional and national wins, the car was reclassified after the ARRC at Daytona.
> So for the start of the 1970 season- and ever after,  the GT6 was in D production.
> 
> With the most general sense of reason, and for the sake of a true and accurate Base for ?Period Correct classification??.  
> the Triumph GT6 is a D production car and it should run prepared to at or about the 1972 SCCA rules as such.
> Most importantly; with a stock appearing manifold with no more than 2 throats. Stromberg or S.U. 1.5 ? to 1.75?
> To Jason Sukey?s point out? no penalty for an enlarged size of a dual carb set-up. (I?m all in on that footnote)
> 
> As far as a triple Webber set-up; with a custom manifold.
> That is a totally different scenario and  was never on these cars in the in the first decades of competition. (Nice try, but Sorry Scott your GT6 didn?t have those Webers on it when it was campaigning for the SCCA DP national championship).
> The only exception would be the Dolan?s group 44 car which actually ran in GTU under IMSA rules at the hand of the Great Ted Schumacher!
> And, with every trick thrown at it; It?s simply a bump in class.
> Intake Manifold modification, and or extra carbs. = C Production
> Lots of other mods = C production
> IMSA GTU type GT6= C prod.
> A modern E production SCCA well built car  like Anthony Parker?s = C production.
> For the record, I don?t care what type of GT6 you build or race.
> I love them all.
> But if we are to be fair to the original cars, certain modifications should be evaluated.
> I see 2 types of GT6 race cars that  I?d like to campaign .
> 1) almost period correct = DP
> 2) unlimited =CP.
> Any type of GT6 is eligible to win the Kastner cup.
> But All GT6 entries are eligible for a public stoning if they are found to be slow.
> 
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
> 1969 Triumph GT6+ racecars
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 9, 2025, at 5:41 PM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen at me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?That may be true- the penalty bit, but I?ve been running triple Weber 40s in Vintage for years. Even with that, a well prepared Tr4 is at least a match for my car. I run the Webers because once they?re set up they?re bulletproof, and I have to admit, I love the way they look.
>> I?m not sure from a performance standpoint they offer a huge edge.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Apr 9, 2025, at 6:24?PM, Jason Ostrowski via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?No.
>>> The GT6 always was sold with the 1.50 strombergs.
>>> The Only difference in GT6 carbs relates to style for various emission requirements.
>>> And contrary to popular belief the 1:5? set of carbs (for all GT6 racecars) are the only style allowed in both Modern and Vintage rules without some kind of corresponding class change or weight penalty.
>>> Jason Ostrowski
>>> Friendly Ghost Racing
>>> 1969 GT6+  racecars
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 9, 2025, at 1:55 PM, DENNIS DELAP via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> ?A M I C I
>>>> I?ve got a question for the GT6 folks in the group. Was the larger 1 3/4? carburetor fitted to the GT6 towards the end of its run?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Dennis
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> fot at autox.team.net
>>>> 
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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu Apr 10 06:04:27 2025
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 08:04:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
In-Reply-To: <0154D3A3-2578-45EB-B1DA-1F1F37FF91DB@yahoo.com>
References: <0154D3A3-2578-45EB-B1DA-1F1F37FF91DB@yahoo.com>
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From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com  Fri Apr 11 09:00:59 2025
From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 15:00:59 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Intake dealing
Message-ID: <SA1P220MB165633F4BF87CFCB6C6FB8CBABB62@SA1P220MB1656.NAMP220.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Think this will take care of any leaks ;-)
Spl cooper valve guide too !

[IMG_5100.jpg]

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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Apr 11 16:21:14 2025
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 16:21:14 -0600
Subject: [Fot] Happy Birthday!
Message-ID: <b25c820f-c62f-4387-b2a3-d680171daaf1@bradakis.com>

On April 11th, 1991, team.net became a new domain.  34 years ago, how 
time flies!  Back then it was just two lists, autox and british-cars. 
My, things have changed.  At its peak, there were 77 lists, I think, 
stemming from splitting the british-cars list into Triumph, MG, Healey, 
etc lists.  And shop-talk and the-local and Datsun roadsters and 
Bricklin and ... you get the idea.  Of course, this list didn't come 
into existence until December of '94.

While Team Net is no longer the only show in town as it was back in the 
early days, there are still just over 30 lists.  About half a dozen of 
these see daily, or almost daily, traffic.  Some see hardly any use at 
all.  Back in the mid nineties, the autox list would see like a thousand 
messages in August, leading up to the Nationals.  I think the one and 
only year I attended, '97, about 2/3rds of the entrants were on Team 
Net.  Lost track of how many stickers I sold.  Still have a few 
somewhere in my office.

As I recall, the very first server I set up at home was top of the line, 
with a 120 MHz processor.  Attached is the label for that box.  Cost me 
$2,500.  See the photo for the specs :-)    Actually, it didn't cost ME 
much money.  Before Team Net came about, I had a fundraiser.  Back then, 
having an internet connection at home was not cheap.  I think I raised 
like $3,000 which got us started down this trail.

Still accepting donations, though the semi-annual fund drives are a 
thing of the past.  When folks see fit and have a few bucks to spare, 
they visit http://www.team.net/donate.html - donate early, donate often!

Yep, it has been over 3 decades I have been doing this, a lot of effort. 
  Back in the day it would take me at least 10 - 15 hours a week dealing 
with errors, bounced mail, maintaining some of the web pages and so on. 
All that effort did land me a berth in the British Sports Car Hall of 
Fame.  That was nice.

And I plan on keeping it going as long as I am physically able.

Anyway, happy birthday Team.Net!

mjb.
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From bownes at seiri.com  Fri Apr 11 21:32:27 2025
From: bownes at seiri.com (Bob Bownes -Seiri)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2025 23:32:27 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Happy Birthday!
In-Reply-To: <b25c820f-c62f-4387-b2a3-d680171daaf1@bradakis.com>
References: <b25c820f-c62f-4387-b2a3-d680171daaf1@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <0F11C7B5-4778-445C-B75A-D4DF4A849F45@seiri.com>


Many thanks for all the hours of dedication Mark! Without you and Bill, we never would have known true bliss!



> On Apr 11, 2025, at 22:16, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?On April 11th, 1991, team.net became a new domain.  34 years ago, how time flies!  Back then it was just two lists, autox and british-cars. My, things have changed.  At its peak, there were 77 lists, I think, stemming from splitting the british-cars list into Triumph, MG, Healey, etc lists.  And shop-talk and the-local and Datsun roadsters and Bricklin and ... you get the idea.  Of course, this list didn't come into existence until December of '94.
> 
> While Team Net is no longer the only show in town as it was back in the early days, there are still just over 30 lists.  About half a dozen of these see daily, or almost daily, traffic.  Some see hardly any use at all.  Back in the mid nineties, the autox list would see like a thousand messages in August, leading up to the Nationals.  I think the one and only year I attended, '97, about 2/3rds of the entrants were on Team Net.  Lost track of how many stickers I sold.  Still have a few somewhere in my office.
> 
> As I recall, the very first server I set up at home was top of the line, with a 120 MHz processor.  Attached is the label for that box.  Cost me $2,500.  See the photo for the specs :-)    Actually, it didn't cost ME much money.  Before Team Net came about, I had a fundraiser.  Back then, having an internet connection at home was not cheap.  I think I raised like $3,000 which got us started down this trail.
> 
> Still accepting donations, though the semi-annual fund drives are a thing of the past.  When folks see fit and have a few bucks to spare, they visit http://www.team.net/donate.html - donate early, donate often!
> 
> Yep, it has been over 3 decades I have been doing this, a lot of effort.  Back in the day it would take me at least 10 - 15 hours a week dealing with errors, bounced mail, maintaining some of the web pages and so on. All that effort did land me a berth in the British Sports Car Hall of Fame.  That was nice.
> 
> And I plan on keeping it going as long as I am physically able.
> 
> Anyway, happy birthday Team.Net!
> 
> mjb.
> <20250411_131842.jpg>
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
> 
> http://www.fot-racing.com
> 
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> 

From nicholsondustin at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 12 07:11:34 2025
From: nicholsondustin at yahoo.com (dustin nicholson)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 08:11:34 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel dims
References: <D3CE1D50-2FA1-4D49-972B-34FB9D8339ED.ref@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D3CE1D50-2FA1-4D49-972B-34FB9D8339ED@yahoo.com>

What offset are y?all running? I?m going to get a set of VTO silverstones 15x6. They offer offset from 9mm to 20mm and everything in between.

Dusty Nicholson 
1957 Daytona TR3 #43

From alfetta95 at optonline.net  Sat Apr 12 08:16:58 2025
From: alfetta95 at optonline.net (Alfetta95)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 10:16:58 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel dims
In-Reply-To: <D3CE1D50-2FA1-4D49-972B-34FB9D8339ED@yahoo.com>
References: <D3CE1D50-2FA1-4D49-972B-34FB9D8339ED@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <462CDD3F-3D53-4E6E-9549-340FA02C32FB@optonline.net>

Hey Dusty. 

On my TR3 I run the VTO Lemans 15x6 with a 3mm positive offset. I use the Hoosier Speedster 205/60 15.  I do have a little tire rub on the rear fenders in hard corners even with the rolled lip.  The fronts, no issues. 

Hope that helps a little
Todd



> On Apr 12, 2025, at 9:44?AM, dustin nicholson via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?What offset are y?all running? I?m going to get a set of VTO silverstones 15x6. They offer offset from 9mm to 20mm and everything in between.
> 
> Dusty Nicholson
> 1957 Daytona TR3 #43
> _______________________________________________
> fot at autox.team.net
> 
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> 
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From rjl6n at cstone.net  Sat Apr 12 09:55:47 2025
From: rjl6n at cstone.net (R. John Lye)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 11:55:47 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Happy Birthday!
In-Reply-To: <b25c820f-c62f-4387-b2a3-d680171daaf1@bradakis.com>
References: <b25c820f-c62f-4387-b2a3-d680171daaf1@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <1744473347.61p8t60pyccswwgk@webmail.lumos.net>

Also, a bleated happy Birthday to you, Mark!  I hope that you
had a wonderful day!

Thanks for all your efforts on our behalf,
John
?





On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 16:21:14 -0600, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

On April 11th, 1991, team.net became a new domain. 34 years ago, how
time flies! Back then it was just two lists, autox and british-cars.
My, things have changed. At its peak, there were 77 lists, I think,
stemming from splitting the british-cars list into Triumph, MG, Healey,
etc lists. And shop-talk and the-local and Datsun roadsters and
Bricklin and ... you get the idea. Of course, this list didn't come
into existence until December of '94.

While Team Net is no longer the only show in town as it was back in the
early days, there are still just over 30 lists. About half a dozen of
these see daily, or almost daily, traffic. Some see hardly any use at
all. Back in the mid nineties, the autox list would see like a thousand
messages in August, leading up to the Nationals. I think the one and
only year I attended, '97, about 2/3rds of the entrants were on Team
Net. Lost track of how many stickers I sold. Still have a few
somewhere in my office.

As I recall, the very first server I set up at home was top of the line,
with a 120 MHz processor. Attached is the label for that box. Cost me
$2,500. See the photo for the specs :-) Actually, it didn't cost ME
much money. Before Team Net came about, I had a fundraiser. Back then,
having an internet connection at home was not cheap. I think I raised
like $3,000 which got us started down this trail.

Still accepting donations, though the semi-annual fund drives are a
thing of the past. When folks see fit and have a few bucks to spare,
they visit http://www.team.net/donate.html - donate early, donate often!

Yep, it has been over 3 decades I have been doing this, a lot of effort.
Back in the day it would take me at least 10 - 15 hours a week dealing
with errors, bounced mail, maintaining some of the web pages and so on.
All that effort did land me a berth in the British Sports Car Hall of
Fame. That was nice.

And I plan on keeping it going as long as I am physically able.

Anyway, happy birthday Team.Net!

mjb. _______________________________________________
fot at autox.team.net

http://www.fot-racing.com

Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
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?

From vfracing at aol.com  Sat Apr 12 11:13:41 2025
From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 13:13:41 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Happy Birthday!
In-Reply-To: <b25c820f-c62f-4387-b2a3-d680171daaf1@bradakis.com>
References: <b25c820f-c62f-4387-b2a3-d680171daaf1@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <D9EA7B73-F3B1-4B44-BB98-FB9D7D46E0B5@aol.com>

Mark;
Thanks for all you have done for the hobby in general and the racing triumph community in particular! The FOT group remains the most informed group amongst all the other Triumph-focused web forums/sites/etc. wishing you many more years of service!
Regards,
Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2025, at 10:37?PM, Mark Bradakis via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?On April 11th, 1991, team.net became a new domain.  34 years ago, how time flies!  Back then it was just two lists, autox and british-cars. My, things have changed.  At its peak, there were 77 lists, I think, stemming from splitting the british-cars list into Triumph, MG, Healey, etc lists.  And shop-talk and the-local and Datsun roadsters and Bricklin and ... you get the idea.  Of course, this list didn't come into existence until December of '94.
> 
> While Team Net is no longer the only show in town as it was back in the early days, there are still just over 30 lists.  About half a dozen of these see daily, or almost daily, traffic.  Some see hardly any use at all.  Back in the mid nineties, the autox list would see like a thousand messages in August, leading up to the Nationals.  I think the one and only year I attended, '97, about 2/3rds of the entrants were on Team Net.  Lost track of how many stickers I sold.  Still have a few somewhere in my office.
> 
> As I recall, the very first server I set up at home was top of the line, with a 120 MHz processor.  Attached is the label for that box.  Cost me $2,500.  See the photo for the specs :-)    Actually, it didn't cost ME much money.  Before Team Net came about, I had a fundraiser.  Back then, having an internet connection at home was not cheap.  I think I raised like $3,000 which got us started down this trail.
> 
> Still accepting donations, though the semi-annual fund drives are a thing of the past.  When folks see fit and have a few bucks to spare, they visit http://www.team.net/donate.html - donate early, donate often!
> 
> Yep, it has been over 3 decades I have been doing this, a lot of effort.  Back in the day it would take me at least 10 - 15 hours a week dealing with errors, bounced mail, maintaining some of the web pages and so on. All that effort did land me a berth in the British Sports Car Hall of Fame.  That was nice.
> 
> And I plan on keeping it going as long as I am physically able.
> 
> Anyway, happy birthday Team.Net!
> 
> mjb.
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Sun Apr 13 00:37:31 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 02:37:31 -0400
Subject: [Fot] TR3 wheel dims
In-Reply-To: <462CDD3F-3D53-4E6E-9549-340FA02C32FB@optonline.net>
References: <D3CE1D50-2FA1-4D49-972B-34FB9D8339ED@yahoo.com>
 <462CDD3F-3D53-4E6E-9549-340FA02C32FB@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <03b8fc60bb0c689f11ba57bd66ed11ad@tr4racer.com>

VTO provides a nice fitment chart, take a look here.

https://www.vtowheels.com/web/content/136174?unique=1faed8c6293687040eadfaf011526dd7f3fb5046&download=true

As Todd states, +3mm on a 15X6 is the specified size.

Old Blue, my 1956 TR3 came with Panasports. I have always assumed they 
are 15X6, but I don't know offhand what the backspacing is. I run 
Speedsters as well, but the narrow ones, 185X65R15. No rubbing issues 
and when I have the suspension setup properly, they work just fine!

Henry Frye
KCup chair - 2025 and 2026

On 2025-04-12 10:16, Alfetta95 via Fot wrote:
> Hey Dusty.
> 
> On my TR3 I run the VTO Lemans 15x6 with a 3mm positive offset. I use
> the Hoosier Speedster 205/60 15.  I do have a little tire rub on the
> rear fenders in hard corners even with the rolled lip.  The fronts, no
> issues.
> 
> Hope that helps a little
> Todd
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 12, 2025, at 9:44?AM, dustin nicholson via Fot 
>> <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?What offset are y?all running? I?m going to get a set of VTO 
>> silverstones 15x6. They offer offset from 9mm to 20mm and everything 
>> in between.
>> 
>> Dusty Nicholson
>> 1957 Daytona TR3 #43

From lymanazhd at yahoo.com  Tue Apr 15 12:02:29 2025
From: lymanazhd at yahoo.com (Lyman Scherer)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 11:02:29 -0700
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
In-Reply-To: <004601dbaa08$80f87b30$82e97190$@gmail.com>
References: <004601dbaa08$80f87b30$82e97190$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <76474718-B1A3-42F1-B4F2-2151A7356E7D@yahoo.com>

Tony Drews
Thanks for that insight.. Remflex stock material. Do you cut two gaskets? Or possible to do one complete gasket? 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 10, 2025, at 4:05?AM, tr4racing at googlemail.com wrote:
> 
> ?I use silicone to seal intakes and headers.
> Never failed.
> 
> Cheers
> Chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lyman Scherer via Fot
> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 12:53 AM
> To: Triumph FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
> 
> Stock TR Moss Motors intake gasket. #1 intake port blow-out, #4 port did
> same blow-out weeks prior No exhaust port leaks!!!
> This is BajaTR3 engine that never had this issue, raced for years.
> Difference: used existing TR4 intakes and headers. Clamping type in not
> stock TR. Probably the cause!
> Are copper gasket available??
> Or better recommendations ??
> I can have gaskets made, just asking for experienced thoughts.
> Cheers, Lyman S.
> 
> 
> 


From ofracer at gmail.com  Tue Apr 15 12:35:53 2025
From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 14:35:53 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Places to stay at Lime Rock - May 3 & 31 Empire Drivers
 event
In-Reply-To: <988991084.2031009.1744732509367@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <988991084.2031009.1744732509367.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <988991084.2031009.1744732509367@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAO0FjVYD0DnMZ1LJXjd-SG=7TBSPjQ3Kvh0x_09-er6h4R=uHg@mail.gmail.com>

FYI, this list may help you find a place to stay for the K cup race in the
fall as well.

mike h
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: cbordin123 at aol.com <cbordin123 at aol.com>
Date: Tue, Apr 15, 2025 at 11:55?AM
Subject: Places to stay at Lime Rock - May 3 & 31 Empire Drivers event
To: Charles Bordin <cbordin123 at aol.com>


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I make no recommendations this list was given to me by the track.

If you have not already entered for this event please do so now as some of
the groups are already wait listed.

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Plenty of track time
Party Friday evening
You can load in late Thursday afternoon


*Entry form attached*
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Apr 15 13:11:23 2025
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 14:11:23 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
In-Reply-To: <76474718-B1A3-42F1-B4F2-2151A7356E7D@yahoo.com>
References: <004601dbaa08$80f87b30$82e97190$@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <b1b25dab-b0d8-49a1-a2d7-097525ba9fdc@tonydrews.com>

I use this:

https://catalog.remflex.com/COLLECTOR_CONNECTOR_Flange_Exhaust_Gasket_p/gs16024.htm

I get at least two gaskets, probably at least 3 from that.

Regards, Tony Drews

On 4/15/2025 1:02 PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote:
> Tony Drews
> Thanks for that insight.. Remflex stock material. Do you cut two gaskets? Or possible to do one complete gasket?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 10, 2025, at 4:05?AM, tr4racing at googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>> ?I use silicone to seal intakes and headers.
>> Never failed.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lyman Scherer via Fot
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 12:53 AM
>> To: Triumph FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
>>
>> Stock TR Moss Motors intake gasket. #1 intake port blow-out, #4 port did
>> same blow-out weeks prior No exhaust port leaks!!!
>> This is BajaTR3 engine that never had this issue, raced for years.
>> Difference: used existing TR4 intakes and headers. Clamping type in not
>> stock TR. Probably the cause!
>> Are copper gasket available??
>> Or better recommendations ??
>> I can have gaskets made, just asking for experienced thoughts.
>> Cheers, Lyman S.
>>
>>
>>
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Tue Apr 15 13:13:55 2025
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 14:13:55 -0500
Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
In-Reply-To: <76474718-B1A3-42F1-B4F2-2151A7356E7D@yahoo.com>
References: <004601dbaa08$80f87b30$82e97190$@gmail.com>
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Re-reading this I think I better understand the question.? I cut them 
out looking like the stock ones, so two separate gaskets, not one solid 
one across the whole surface.? I never thought of doing a single gasket 
until now, interesting idea.

Regards, Tony Drews

On 4/15/2025 1:02 PM, Lyman Scherer via Fot wrote:
> Tony Drews
> Thanks for that insight.. Remflex stock material. Do you cut two gaskets? Or possible to do one complete gasket?
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 10, 2025, at 4:05?AM, tr4racing at googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>> ?I use silicone to seal intakes and headers.
>> Never failed.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Lyman Scherer via Fot
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 12:53 AM
>> To: Triumph FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Fot] TR intake gaskets
>>
>> Stock TR Moss Motors intake gasket. #1 intake port blow-out, #4 port did
>> same blow-out weeks prior No exhaust port leaks!!!
>> This is BajaTR3 engine that never had this issue, raced for years.
>> Difference: used existing TR4 intakes and headers. Clamping type in not
>> stock TR. Probably the cause!
>> Are copper gasket available??
>> Or better recommendations ??
>> I can have gaskets made, just asking for experienced thoughts.
>> Cheers, Lyman S.
>>
>>
>>
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From sjanzen at me.com  Tue Apr 15 14:17:06 2025
From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen)
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 16:17:06 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Places to stay at Lime Rock - May 3 & 31 Empire
 Drivers event
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From yellow04 at tr4racer.com  Thu Apr 17 01:24:23 2025
From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 03:24:23 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: Historic Festival 43 Updates
In-Reply-To: <BL3PR01MB6804EB647597B906731F6BE7BDBC2@BL3PR01MB6804.prod.exchangelabs.com>
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For those of you who have not yet registered or are not on the mailing
list, I am forwarding Skip Barber's update on the Historic Festival 43
at Lime Rock Park, the 2025 home of the Kastner Cup!  

As you can see, we already have 28 Triumphs registered, we are off to a
great start! Thanks to everyone who has pulled the trigger and
registered, remember if you need to cancel you will get a 100% refund
all the way up to two weeks before the event. There is no reason to put
off registering, if you are planning on coming and have not registered
yet, please do so. It really helps us with the planning. 

Don't hesitate to reach out with any questions! 

Cheers 

Henry Frye
Kastner Cup Chair - 2025 and 2026
860.508.3118 

From: Lime Rock Historic Festival <historics at limerock.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 4:10 PM
To: Henry Frye 
Subject: Historic Festival 43 Updates 

A Note From Skip 

April 16, 2025 

Dear Competitor, 

Del Monte Trophy Group coming from California. About 10 early 50's cars,
mostly "specials" as was the norm in the West when the Torrey Pines road
racing started. We're working on how to accommodate these cars, our War
Era, pre and post-war classes, plus anticipated new entries (the 1950
Cunningham Cadillacs, both "Le Monstre" and "Petit Pataud"), and the
appropriate cars from Group 3 and Group 6. More on this in a couple of
weeks. 

Kastner Cup for Triumphs. 28 cars entered at this time. Also working
tent in B Paddock for the Friends of Triumph and a static display of
unusual and special Triumphs that aren't racing in A Paddock. 

Formula Junior will have a dedicated group and paddock area. 

Toyo Historic World Challenge. We are going to do more frequent and
timelier (and briefer) newsletters like this going forward. In a couple
of weeks, we'll cover Toyo Historic World Challenge, Ragtime Racers, the
Competitors Dinner, and the Paddock displays (at least 6), plus a few
fun surprises. 

Sunday Concours. In conjunction with the Kastner Cup racing events, this
year's Concours will showcase Triumphs in prewar, postwar, and
competition form. It will also honor Ferrari's iconic V-12 GTs,
including a rare 250 GT Berlinetta SWB, and pay tribute to influential
design legend Giorgetto Giugiaro. 

Additional highlights include the timeless elegance of Stutz, classic
Porsche 356s, and the 120th anniversary of Rolls-Royce. Other classes
will celebrate Chrysler's Hemi-powered heritage, the inventive spirit of
early postwar American sports cars, and our ever-popular Preservation
class. Additional information on all the classes, as well as application
information can be found here: Sunday in the Park Participate - Lime
Rock Park [1] 

Thursday's Parade leaves the track at 5:00, runs 17 miles on scenic
roads through local towns, and includes a street fair in Falls Village
with music and entertainment. Open to competition cars and two-door
sporting cars built before 1975. Hugely popular. Last year, we had 275
applications for 125 spots.  

Registered race cars can sign up for the Thursday Parade now. Otherwise
registration opens on Friday, May 30th and closes Friday, August 1st.
Contact walter at limerock.com. 

? 

Register for Historic Festival 43  [2] 

? 

? 

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From vfracing at aol.com  Thu Apr 17 04:29:24 2025
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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 06:29:24 -0400
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From mecook at mindspring.com  Thu Apr 17 07:52:38 2025
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 13:52:38 +0000
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: Historic Festival 43 Updates
Message-ID: <1d3649fa-69e4-089b-d12f-76b58f4974fd@mindspring.com>

Henry,

Thanks for the HF43 and Kastner Cup update! Curious. If registered, should registrants also be receiving the "Dear Competitor" letter?  I began receiving VSCCA emails soon after I registered in early February (as well as the HF43 registration confirmation email), but not the HF43 emails.

Let me know if I need to follow up or something to receive the "Dear Competitor" email.

Thanks again,

Mark Cook



-----Original Message-----
From: yellow04 <yellow04 at tr4racer.com>
Sent: Apr 17, 2025 3:36 AM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: Historic Festival 43 Updates

For those of you who have not yet registered or are not on the mailing list, I am forwarding Skip Barber's update on the Historic Festival 43 at Lime Rock Park, the 2025 home of the Kastner Cup! 
As you can see, we already have 28 Triumphs registered, we are off to a great start! Thanks to everyone who has pulled the trigger and registered, remember if you need to cancel you will get a 100% refund all the way up to two weeks before the event. There is no reason to put off registering, if you are planning on coming and have not registered yet, please do so. It really helps us with the planning.
Don't hesitate to reach out with any questions!
Cheers
Henry Frye
Kastner Cup Chair - 2025 and 2026
860.508.3118 
 
From: Lime Rock Historic Festival <historics at limerock.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 4:10 PM
To: Henry Frye 
Subject: Historic Festival 43 Updates



A Note From Skip













 
April 16, 2025
 
Dear Competitor,
 
Del Monte Trophy Group coming from California. About 10 early 50's cars, mostly "specials" as was the norm in the West when the Torrey Pines road racing started. We're working on how to accommodate these cars, our War Era, pre and post-war classes, plus anticipated new entries (the 1950 Cunningham Cadillacs, both "Le Monstre" and "Petit Pataud"), and the appropriate cars from Group 3 and Group 6. More on this in a couple of weeks.
 
Kastner Cup for Triumphs. 28 cars entered at this time. Also working tent in B Paddock for the Friends of Triumph and a static display of unusual and special Triumphs that aren't racing in A Paddock.
 
Formula Junior will have a dedicated group and paddock area.
 
Toyo Historic World Challenge. We are going to do more frequent and timelier (and briefer) newsletters like this going forward. In a couple of weeks, we'll cover Toyo Historic World Challenge, Ragtime Racers, the Competitors Dinner, and the Paddock displays (at least 6), plus a few fun surprises.
 
Sunday Concours. In conjunction with the Kastner Cup racing events, this year's Concours will showcase Triumphs in prewar, postwar, and competition form. It will also honor Ferrari's iconic V-12 GTs, including a rare 250 GT Berlinetta SWB, and pay tribute to influential design legend Giorgetto Giugiaro. 
 
Additional highlights include the timeless elegance of Stutz, classic Porsche 356s, and the 120th anniversary of Rolls-Royce. Other classes will celebrate Chrysler's Hemi-powered heritage, the inventive spirit of early postwar American sports cars, and our ever-popular Preservation class. Additional information on all the classes, as well as application information can be found here: Sunday in the Park Participate - Lime Rock Park (https://vb7dog7ab.cc.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001DgT8xX6LyLXlpk4RFfdw_JPgFkdH9Age5e_VQ14Z1Fwz5ur97ErfLXEgy15p0C14mal8eCDx2KiYThqrl9f-etV1jKfNAISHNs2ws0IWd9I5OVqIIKhks-iuZpKvArJyKX79Vn79WTV5Jhsbkr0T-P311nq5AXWkWwJ-uy1ua8t4kLA_IMswLSWE_j9dRwdseUnyY0yEZseiMLJuu0gLoeUyQukjtHBZsY6rxiD9Tjw=&amp;c=qRm0JvInznPSya5Cd_6Y1l3hGu7N6-aqCw_kc1SohcU39vwVNcNqCA==&amp;ch=Mi1th7P5hB1bk7pnFrZ60ztqIbkf17X0Dx76d175J5_nPhsR7x97Nw==)



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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2025 23:53:46 +0000 (UTC)
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I believe one was just sent yesterday referencing the Thursday Parade. I hope you got it.?
The parade is actually a pretty good time. Kind of a mini Road America thing with a sandwich and a beer at the end- accompanied by live music and lots of car talk and cool cars.
I look forward to meeting everyone!

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As you can see, we already have 28 Triumphs registered, we are off to a great start! Thanks to everyone who has pulled the trigger and registered, remember if you need to cancel you will get a 100% refund all the way up to two weeks before the event. There is no reason to put off registering, if you are planning on coming and have not registered yet, please do so. It really helps us with the planning.

Don't hesitate to reach out with any questions!

Cheers

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From mecook at mindspring.com  Sat Apr 19 06:02:46 2025
From: mecook at mindspring.com (Mark Cook)
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2025 08:02:46 -0400
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: Historic Festival 43 Updates
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Rick   - thanks!  Not receiving it, but will contact Jeanette at historics at limerock.com per Henry?s suggestion.

 

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I believe one was just sent yesterday referencing the Thursday Parade. I hope you got it. 

 

The parade is actually a pretty good time. Kind of a mini Road America thing with a sandwich and a beer at the end- accompanied by live music and lots of car talk and cool cars.

 

I look forward to meeting everyone!

 

 

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On Thursday, April 17, 2025, 10:12 AM, Mark Cook via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:

Henry,

 

Thanks for the HF43 and Kastner Cup update! Curious. If registered, should registrants also be receiving the "Dear Competitor" letter?  I began receiving VSCCA emails soon after I registered in early February (as well as the HF43 registration confirmation email), but not the HF43 emails.

 

Let me know if I need to follow up or something to receive the "Dear Competitor" email.

 

Thanks again,

 

Mark Cook

 

 

 

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From: yellow04 <yellow04 at tr4racer.com>
Sent: Apr 17, 2025 3:36 AM
To: FOT <fot at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: FW: Historic Festival 43 Updates

 

For those of you who have not yet registered or are not on the mailing list, I am forwarding Skip Barber's update on the Historic Festival 43 at Lime Rock Park, the 2025 home of the Kastner Cup! 

As you can see, we already have 28 Triumphs registered, we are off to a great start! Thanks to everyone who has pulled the trigger and registered, remember if you need to cancel you will get a 100% refund all the way up to two weeks before the event. There is no reason to put off registering, if you are planning on coming and have not registered yet, please do so. It really helps us with the planning.

Don't hesitate to reach out with any questions!

Cheers

Henry Frye
Kastner Cup Chair - 2025 and 2026
860.508.3118 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2025 4:10 PM
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Dear Competitor,

 

Del Monte Trophy Group coming from California. About 10 early 50's cars, mostly "specials" as was the norm in the West when the Torrey Pines road racing started. We're working on how to accommodate these cars, our War Era, pre and post-war classes, plus anticipated new entries (the 1950 Cunningham Cadillacs, both "Le Monstre" and "Petit Pataud"), and the appropriate cars from Group 3 and Group 6. More on this in a couple of weeks.

 

Kastner Cup for Triumphs. 28 cars entered at this time. Also working tent in B Paddock for the Friends of Triumph and a static display of unusual and special Triumphs that aren't racing in A Paddock.

 

Formula Junior will have a dedicated group and paddock area.

 

Toyo Historic World Challenge. We are going to do more frequent and timelier (and briefer) newsletters like this going forward. In a couple of weeks, we'll cover Toyo Historic World Challenge, Ragtime Racers, the Competitors Dinner, and the Paddock displays (at least 6), plus a few fun surprises.

 

Sunday Concours. In conjunction with the Kastner Cup racing events, this year's Concours will showcase Triumphs in prewar, postwar, and competition form. It will also honor Ferrari's iconic V-12 GTs, including a rare 250 GT Berlinetta SWB, and pay tribute to influential design legend Giorgetto Giugiaro. 

 

Additional highlights include the timeless elegance of Stutz, classic Porsche 356s, and the 120th anniversary of Rolls-Royce. Other classes will celebrate Chrysler's Hemi-powered heritage, the inventive spirit of early postwar American sports cars, and our ever-popular Preservation class. Additional information on all the classes, as well as application information can be found here:  <https://vb7dog7ab.cc.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001DgT8xX6LyLXlpk4RFfdw_JPgFkdH9Age5e_VQ14Z1Fwz5ur97ErfLXEgy15p0C14mal8eCDx2KiYThqrl9f-etV1jKfNAISHNs2ws0IWd9I5OVqIIKhks-iuZpKvArJyKX79Vn79WTV5Jhsbkr0T-P311nq5AXWkWwJ-uy1ua8t4kLA_IMswLSWE_j9dRwdseUnyY0yEZseiMLJuu0gLoeUyQukjtHBZsY6rxiD9Tjw=&c=qRm0JvInznPSya5Cd_6Y1l3hGu7N6-aqCw_kc1SohcU39vwVNcNqCA==&ch=Mi1th7P5hB1bk7pnFrZ60ztqIbkf17X0Dx76d175J5_nPhsR7x97Nw==> Sunday in the Park Participate - Lime Rock Park

 



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From mckearn2 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 20 20:55:45 2025
From: mckearn2 at gmail.com (McKearn McKearn)
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 21:55:45 -0500
Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear spring
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Hi Friends and Happy Easter..
   If a person were considering a way to put  rear coilovers on a GT6,
what spring rate would that person want to start with for a stiff
competition ride?  Also am wondering if there is a clear favorite for
shock/spring manufacture?
                   Thanks.  P.J.
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