From ponobill at gmail.com Tue Jul 1 13:40:55 2025 From: ponobill at gmail.com (Ponostyle) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2025 12:40:55 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Ambro for sale In-Reply-To: <755683DC-F4BE-455B-88E8-2ADDF75E19BA@gmail.com> References: <755683DC-F4BE-455B-88E8-2ADDF75E19BA@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ED31DDD-4A9A-4F8D-BB4D-3A41E3646D6B@ponostyle.com> I?ve listed Ambro 001 for sale on Bring-A-Trailer. It?s up with no reserve. I?m going to include a ton of parts with it if the buyer wants them?I?m building a TR3 hot street car but I have tons of stuff I don?t need. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-ambro-race-car-001/ I had big plans for Peyotifying this car to make it as fast or faster than Peyote. But it?s just sitting in my shop gathering dust. Bill Babcock Beach Bum bill at ponostyle.com https://www.Ponostyle.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 3 08:25:37 2025 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 14:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Wanted: TR6 Main Bearing Caps References: <256307363.2288030.1751552737016.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <256307363.2288030.1751552737016@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, An acquaintance brought a seized TR6 engine to my local machinist and somehow I got in the loop. I sold the guy a complete lower block assembly that should be rebuildable... blah blah blah. In the loop conversation, the machinist told the customer that the original block was probably okay, but the caps were junk because they were hot enough to turn blue. Customer had the oil gauge line blow off the block and ran the engine dry until it seized. In any case, The lower assembly I sold the guy should be rebuildable as is the original engine would be IF we could source a set of main caps that can be assembled and the block align bored. My preference is to try to keep the block I sold the guy "complete" as a core for an engine project and I have a couple of cranks that I can sell to the customer. So, I'm looking for a complete set of 4 TR6 main bearing caps in serviceable condition. I told client that his best bet is to score a complete engine and strip off what he needs, he didn't seem to want to do that. Go figure. The situation is "self explanatory". But if you have some TR6 main caps lying around, drop me a line. Regards,Bob Lang339-927-4489 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rkramer56 at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 10:15:14 2025 From: rkramer56 at gmail.com (Bob Kramer Gmail) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2025 11:15:14 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Wanted: TR6 Main Bearing Caps In-Reply-To: <256307363.2288030.1751552737016@mail.yahoo.com> References: <256307363.2288030.1751552737016@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <953ECEAE-44AE-41D9-BB1E-249A5CEFC047@gmail.com> IMHO just getting a set of main caps that are close to the engine alignment in the current block is a needle in a haystack scenario. That will mean line boring after machining the caps and then a line hone. I can?t imagine that the price for that would be anywhere as cheap as finding another donor engine. I recently recycled two TR6 blocks that I got with cars due to the missing bearing caps. You only get one chance at life, make it a TRIUMPH. > On Jul 3, 2025, at 9:41?AM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: > > ? > Hi, > > An acquaintance brought a seized TR6 engine to my local machinist and somehow I got in the loop. I sold the guy a complete lower block assembly that should be rebuildable... blah blah blah. In the loop conversation, the machinist told the customer that the original block was probably okay, but the caps were junk because they were hot enough to turn blue. Customer had the oil gauge line blow off the block and ran the engine dry until it seized. In any case, The lower assembly I sold the guy should be rebuildable as is the original engine would be IF we could source a set of main caps that can be assembled and the block align bored. > > My preference is to try to keep the block I sold the guy "complete" as a core for an engine project and I have a couple of cranks that I can sell to the customer. > > So, I'm looking for a complete set of 4 TR6 main bearing caps in serviceable condition. > > I told client that his best bet is to score a complete engine and strip off what he needs, he didn't seem to want to do that. Go figure. The situation is "self explanatory". > > But if you have some TR6 main caps lying around, drop me a line. > > Regards, > Bob Lang > 339-927-4489 > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tr4 at wi.rr.com Thu Jul 3 12:35:15 2025 From: tr4 at wi.rr.com (tr4) Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2025 13:35:15 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Wanted: TR6 Main Bearing Caps In-Reply-To: <953ECEAE-44AE-41D9-BB1E-249A5CEFC047@gmail.com> Message-ID: I wonder if you would even find a machine shop that would take on this job.? A set of caps from a different engine will be off in both x and y dimensions.? Much better off finding a replacement.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Bob Kramer Gmail via Fot Date: 7/3/25 12:18 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Robert Lang Cc: Triumph FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Wanted: TR6 Main Bearing Caps IMHO just getting a set of main caps that are close to the engine alignment in the current block is a needle in a haystack scenario. That will mean line boring after machining the caps and then a line hone. I can?t imagine that the price for that would be anywhere as cheap as finding another donor engine.?I recently recycled two TR6 blocks that I got with cars due to the missing bearing caps.You only get one chance at life, make it a TRIUMPH.On Jul 3, 2025, at 9:41?AM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote:?Hi,An acquaintance brought a seized TR6 engine to my local machinist and somehow I got in the loop. I sold the guy a complete lower block assembly that should be rebuildable... blah blah blah. In the loop conversation, the machinist told the customer that the original block was probably okay, but the caps were junk because they were hot enough to turn blue. Customer had the oil gauge line blow off the block and ran the engine dry until it seized. In any case, The lower assembly I sold the guy should be rebuildable as is the original engine would be IF we could source a set of main caps that can be assembled and the block align bored.My preference is to try to keep the block I sold the guy "complete" as a core for an engine project and I have a couple of cranks that I can sell to the customer.So, I'm looking for a complete set of 4 TR6 main bearing caps in serviceable condition.I told client that his best bet is to score a complete engine and strip off what he needs, he didn't seem to want to do that. Go figure. The situation is "self explanatory".But if you have some TR6 main caps lying around, drop me a line.Regards,Bob Lang339-927-4489_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Much better off finding a replacement. > > > > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S23+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Bob Kramer Gmail via Fot > Date: 7/3/25 12:18 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: Robert Lang > Cc: Triumph FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wanted: TR6 Main Bearing Caps > > IMHO just getting a set of main caps that are close to the engine alignment in the current block is a needle in a haystack scenario. That will mean line boring after machining the caps and then a line hone. I can?t imagine that the price for that would be anywhere as cheap as finding another donor engine. > > I recently recycled two TR6 blocks that I got with cars due to the missing bearing caps. > > You only get one chance at life, make it a TRIUMPH. > >>> On Jul 3, 2025, at 9:41?AM, Robert Lang via Fot wrote: >>> >> ? >> Hi, >> >> An acquaintance brought a seized TR6 engine to my local machinist and somehow I got in the loop. I sold the guy a complete lower block assembly that should be rebuildable... blah blah blah. In the loop conversation, the machinist told the customer that the original block was probably okay, but the caps were junk because they were hot enough to turn blue. Customer had the oil gauge line blow off the block and ran the engine dry until it seized. In any case, The lower assembly I sold the guy should be rebuildable as is the original engine would be IF we could source a set of main caps that can be assembled and the block align bored. >> >> My preference is to try to keep the block I sold the guy "complete" as a core for an engine project and I have a couple of cranks that I can sell to the customer. >> >> So, I'm looking for a complete set of 4 TR6 main bearing caps in serviceable condition. >> >> I told client that his best bet is to score a complete engine and strip off what he needs, he didn't seem to want to do that. Go figure. 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The rims are 5.5? wide It is difficult to find street legal performance tires for 13? wheels. Some manufacturers sell the 175?s & some sell the 185?s but few sell both, & those that do, may only sell both using different model tires. I hate to mix 2 different tire models on the same car. If I go with a 205/60-R13, I get basically the same diameter/circumference as both the 175 & 185 tires, & there are a number of track performance tires, & even the old BF Goodrich Radial T/As available. The 205?s would look great! >From some old on line posts, it sounds like the 205/60?s will work fine on the rear, with some very slight interference on the front at full turn lock. That would be easy to deal with. Some charts I have seen say that a 5.5? wide rim will take up to a 205, but some say only up to 195 widths are acceptable. Your thoughts? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at dieselperformanceparts.com Mon Jul 7 14:38:02 2025 From: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com (Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 20:38:02 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey I can?t figure out how to post on FOT it has been a long time and I got a bunch of Sptifire and GT6 bonnets and other stuff I want to sell to the membership versus facebook or eBay etc., Can you tell me how? [cid:image001.png at 01DBEF55.0B543C10] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBEF55.0B543C10] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Fot On Behalf Of Mark Haynes via Fot Sent: Monday, July 7, 2025 2:26 PM To: fot at autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Tires While not specifically a triumph question, I hope I get get some info here. I have a ?73 Lotus Europa John Player Special. The car only weighs about 1500 pounds. The tires that came on the car are: 175/70-R13 Front 185/70-R13 Rear Because of the weight, the specified air pressure is only 20 pounds. The rims are 5.5? wide It is difficult to find street legal performance tires for 13? wheels. Some manufacturers sell the 175?s & some sell the 185?s but few sell both, & those that do, may only sell both using different model tires. I hate to mix 2 different tire models on the same car. If I go with a 205/60-R13, I get basically the same diameter/circumference as both the 175 & 185 tires, & there are a number of track performance tires, & even the old BF Goodrich Radial T/As available. The 205?s would look great! From some old on line posts, it sounds like the 205/60?s will work fine on the rear, with some very slight interference on the front at full turn lock. That would be easy to deal with. 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I have one TR3 I?m completeing but other than the parts that go on it I?m going to get rid of as much of my tons of Triumph stuff as the buyer wants. So this is more like bring a box truck. Probably going to go cheap in about 13 hours. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-ambro-race-car-001/ From tomstrange5 at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 07:30:19 2025 From: tomstrange5 at gmail.com (tom strange) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 09:30:19 -0400 Subject: [Fot] GT6 bits needed Message-ID: I think I've located the bits I need. Bonnet hinge tube & bonnet hinge bracket assembly, both L & R. Any help? Thanks in advance -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From solarant at hotmail.com Tue Jul 8 07:47:24 2025 From: solarant at hotmail.com (Anthony Parker) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 13:47:24 +0000 Subject: [Fot] GT6 bits needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spitfire 1500 parts should work. Many, many more of them around. ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of tom strange via Fot Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2025 9:30 AM To: FoTTriumph Subject: [Fot] GT6 bits needed I think I've located the bits I need. Bonnet hinge tube & bonnet hinge bracket assembly, both L & R. Any help? Thanks in advance -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Tue Jul 8 08:01:20 2025 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 10:01:20 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Ambro on Bring A Trailer In-Reply-To: <52A49FF6-D9F5-4E53-A1C0-70E88B0B0464@ponostyle.com> References: <633815B8-5619-49E7-8A4F-BA71BD815217@gmail.com> <52A49FF6-D9F5-4E53-A1C0-70E88B0B0464@ponostyle.com> Message-ID: <4B169766-EF26-4B9D-977F-4AD19492DEEC@me.com> wish this was on the East Coast. A coast to coast hauling trip is too much for this guy. On Jul 8, 2025, at 12:08?AM, Ponostyle via Fot wrote: Mine. Comes with a LOT of parts, not just for the AMBRO. I have one TR3 I?m completeing but other than the parts that go on it I?m going to get rid of as much of my tons of Triumph stuff as the buyer wants. So this is more like bring a box truck. Probably going to go cheap in about 13 hours. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-ambro-race-car-001/ _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Tue Jul 8 08:27:11 2025 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 14:27:11 +0000 Subject: [Fot] GT6 bits needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Does anyone have a good photo or diagram of a GT6 MkI front frame crossmember with the bonnet hinge assembly? A little more context here. Some of you might remember the car in question ? my dad?s red MkI GT6 racer. Effing terrifying car to drive with the swing axles. It was really OK to drive as long as you didn?t need to, you know, brake. Or, god forbid, brake while turning. Dad pulled it off the track roughly 20 years ago and began rebuilding it on a ?71 GT6 MkIII frame that I had lying around. He only got the car so far before he was no longer able to work on it. And then he had the temerity to go ahead and die and leave me to finish the car. I?ve gotten it back to pretty much ready to drop the spare engine and trans into it and send it off to Tom in Vermont for him and his grandkids to mess with. As I think about putting the bonnet back on, it occurs to me that dad must have cut off the normal MkIII bonnet hinge boxes that mount on the front frame crossmember, in preparation for adding the MkI bonnet hinge assemblies to the MkIII frame. Here?s where we are right now?(see below or attached pic). [cid:image001.png at 01DBEFE9.6DAE27B0] From: Fot On Behalf Of tom strange via Fot Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2025 8:30 AM To: FoTTriumph Subject: [Fot] GT6 bits needed I think I've located the bits I need. Bonnet hinge tube & bonnet hinge bracket assembly, both L & R. Any help? Thanks in advance -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 823046 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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John Lye) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2025 12:22:03 -0400 Subject: [Fot] *****SPAM***** Re: Ambro on Bring A Trailer In-Reply-To: <4B169766-EF26-4B9D-977F-4AD19492DEEC@me.com> References: <633815B8-5619-49E7-8A4F-BA71BD815217@gmail.com> <52A49FF6-D9F5-4E53-A1C0-70E88B0B0464@ponostyle.com> <4B169766-EF26-4B9D-977F-4AD19492DEEC@me.com> Message-ID: <1751991723.x5pcn6fym8kc0c4g@webmail.lumos.net> Me too! While I would love an Ambro, and am looking for another project, hauling to Virginia is just a bit too much for me. John ? On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 10:01:20 -0400, Scott Janzen via Fot wrote: wish this was on the East Coast. A coast to coast hauling trip is too much for this guy. On Jul 8, 2025, at 12:08?AM, Ponostyle via Fot wrote: Mine. Comes with a LOT of parts, not just for the AMBRO. I have one TR3 I?m completeing but other than the parts that go on it I?m going to get rid of as much of my tons of Triumph stuff as the buyer wants. So this is more like bring a box truck. 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No Triumph was ever rust free even from day one so......... * 1 round tail stock Spitfire bonnet, also very very good condition * 1 each left and right front wings "fender portion" of a square tail bonnet that for some reason were cut off a square tail bonnet. For potential repair for a damaged bonnet maybe?? Don't know why I have them, LOL! * 1 GT6 parts car, rusty and missing lost of stuff but the basic car and engine is still there. * 1 square tail Spitfire parts car, again pretty rusty but lots of stuff to fix up a race car or street car. * 1 GT6 square tail frame totally stripped frame, frame only. Other stuff I don't even know I have, but these are the big bulky parts that need a home. All of it is in Nashville, Tennessee at my office. I can meet there on weekdays or weekends you can see it all and look thru the 5-7 pallets of other parts I have too. I have 2 square tail race cars that will be gone thru one more time before I retire myself from racing, so some parts stay with me but EVERYTHING else is for sale. I want to offer this to the membership first as you are the guys that keep the Triumph world alive and deserve first pick!! Can't tell ya how much you all and the site has helped me thru the years. Also a HUGE AIR CAPACITY 120 gallon, 4 cylinder two stage, Champion air compressor, 220V single phase, a 4 foot bead blast cabinet, a 6 foot long steel workbench made from river barge plate steel. A 220V single phase hot water pressure washer fired by kerosene, a ALC 100-pound capacity pressure pot sand blaster and more all in good operational condition. I have a forklift to load too. My contact info is below in my signature. [cid:image001.png at 01DBEFFA.C34CE2E0] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBEFFA.C34CE2E0] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 18269 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 791 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From tomstrange5 at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 12:39:36 2025 From: tomstrange5 at gmail.com (tom strange) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 14:39:36 -0400 Subject: [Fot] New Member Message-ID: Mark, and all, I would like to add another name to our list. I just got off the phone With Rick Mathis. 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From seanhenry84 at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 20:29:44 2025 From: seanhenry84 at gmail.com (Sean Henry) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2025 22:29:44 -0400 Subject: [Fot] MYLAPS X2 racekey Message-ID: Hey there. I?m headed to PITT vintage race this weekend and really looking forward to it. Unfortunately my racekey is defective and won?t update my transponder. Anyone going either to race or spectate that has a working X2 racekey? If you do please bring it with you. Hopefully with a hot spot and my computer I can get the darn thing updated so I can race. My names Sean Henry and I drive the green #10 Spitfire. I really appreciate it. Fingers crossed someone has one that still works. It seems they are all bad these days, I?m starting to think it?s by design. Thanks again Sean Henry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at dieselperformanceparts.com Tue Jul 8 21:38:18 2025 From: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com (Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 03:38:18 +0000 Subject: [Fot] New Member In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1F915571-2E11-4928-AB31-F827A1D00B22@dieselperformanceparts.com> Second for Rick Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 8, 2025, at 9:09?PM, Mark Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?Okay, Rick is on the list. > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/info at dieselperformanceparts.com > > From fmccjr at aol.com Tue Jul 8 21:57:09 2025 From: fmccjr at aol.com (fmccjr at aol.com) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 03:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] MYLAPS X2 racekey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1426517994.1601028.1752033429832@mail.yahoo.com> Sean, Mine fully?crapped out just after I signed up for a 5 yr subscription renewal, and I ended up getting a replacement that is a different design (no race key). Once I registered?it (?),?lo and behold, it works! The racekey version worked about 3 times in 5 years. That?s about?one more time than my car did? (but improvements are presently manifesting). Good luck with yours. I?ll see you at Lime Rock! Rick McCurdy Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Tuesday, July 8, 2025, 11:11 PM, Sean Henry via Fot wrote: Hey there. I?m headed to PITT vintage race this weekend and really looking forward to it. Unfortunately my racekey is defective and won?t update my transponder. Anyone going either to race or spectate that has a working X2 racekey?? If you do please bring it with you. Hopefully with a hot spot and my computer I can get the darn thing updated so I can race. My names Sean Henry and I drive the green #10 Spitfire. I really appreciate it. Fingers crossed someone has one that still works. It seems they are all bad these days, I?m starting to think it?s by design. ? Thanks again? Sean Henry?_______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fmccjr at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hakhutch at roadrunner.com Wed Jul 9 05:32:17 2025 From: hakhutch at roadrunner.com (hakhutch at roadrunner.com) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2025 11:32:17 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Tires Message-ID: <31cae9c1ab5b484f3979cd4b820a8247ee14a853@webmail> I am running 205/60R13 BFG T/A tires on stock TR8 alloy wheels on my TR7 FHC. I believe they are 5.5" width rims. I am having no issues with this set up. Driven spiritedly and occasionally autocrossed. While it is not a Europa, I have no rubbing issues on lowered springs with this extra tire width. Perhaps someone can verify the rim width on the TR8 factory alloy wheels? I do think they are 5.5".Tim HutchisenNorway, ME -----------------------------------------From: "Mark Haynes via Fot" To: fot at autox.team.net Cc: Sent: Monday July 7 2025 4:44:08PM Subject: [Fot] Tires While not specifically a triumph question, I hope I get get some info here. I have a ?73 Lotus Europa John Player Special. The car only weighs about 1500 pounds. The tires that came on the car are: 175/70-R13 Front 185/70-R13 Rear Because of the weight, the specified air pressure is only 20 pounds. The rims are 5.5? wide It is difficult to find street legal performance tires for 13? wheels. Some manufacturers sell the 175?s & some sell the 185?s but few sell both, & those that do, may only sell both using different model tires. I hate to mix 2 different tire models on the same car. If I go with a 205/60-R13, I get basically the same diameter/circumference as both the 175 & 185 tires, & there are a number of track performance tires, & even the old BF Goodrich Radial T/As available. The 205?s would look great! From some old on line posts, it sounds like the 205/60?s will work fine on the rear, with some very slight interference on the front at full turn lock. That would be easy to deal with. Some charts I have seen say that a 5.5? wide rim will take up to a 205, but some say only up to 195 widths are acceptable. Your thoughts? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ponobill at gmail.com Wed Jul 9 08:26:54 2025 From: ponobill at gmail.com (Bill Babcock) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 07:26:54 -0700 Subject: [Fot] Ambro In-Reply-To: <857211462.1705078.1752064544162@mail.yahoo.com> References: <857211462.1705078.1752064544162.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <857211462.1705078.1752064544162@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <893870BF-4010-434C-8274-9CAC891A2A5B@gmail.com> Yes, it was bought by Jim Whitmer, who was a former owner. In fact he was the owner who sold the car to Doug Karon. So yes, I?m quite pleased. The car comes with a LOT of ancillary parts, many of them have nothing to do with the Ambro. I?m trying to make my metalworking wing of the shop a bit more orderly and getting rid of 50 years worth of Triumph parts accumulation will go a long way to aid that. I?m restoring a TR3 I bought many years ago, and reserving the parts necessary to complete that project, but otherwise everything that fits on the trailer is headed to Oklahoma. I hope he does what I planned to do, which was to Peyote-ify the car. I always thought it could be as fast or faster, and pretty at the same time. Bill > On Jul 9, 2025, at 5:35?AM, Robert Lang wrote: > > Hi, > > I know this is water over the dam, but from the comments in the BAT auction, sounds like the Ambro went to a good home. I, like any number of other FOTers, would have loved to grab that project but the logistics were not in the cards. > > I always had a special liking to that car when Doug Karon was the caretaker. > > Anyway, congrats on moving it to a new home. > > Regards, > Bob Lang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From triumphsix at yahoo.com Wed Jul 9 14:06:41 2025 From: triumphsix at yahoo.com (David Gott) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2025 20:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] MYLAPS X2 racekey In-Reply-To: <1426517994.1601028.1752033429832@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1426517994.1601028.1752033429832@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1524405183.1034745.1752091601580@mail.yahoo.com> Hi Sean, I?ve got one of those race keys that worked last time I tried. ?The subscription is no longer active on it, but I?ll bring it with me! ?#80 Green TR4. ? Like Rich, I got the newer version and got it hard wired after missing several times laps? See you there!Dave Gott Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, July 9, 2025, 12:24 AM, fmccjr--- via Fot wrote: Sean, Mine fully?crapped out just after I signed up for a 5 yr subscription renewal, and I ended up getting a replacement that is a different design (no race key). Once I registered?it (?),?lo and behold, it works! The racekey version worked about 3 times in 5 years. That?s about?one more time than my car did? (but improvements are presently manifesting). Good luck with yours. I?ll see you at Lime Rock! Rick McCurdy Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Tuesday, July 8, 2025, 11:11 PM, Sean Henry via Fot wrote: Hey there. I?m headed to PITT vintage race this weekend and really looking forward to it. Unfortunately my racekey is defective and won?t update my transponder. Anyone going either to race or spectate that has a working X2 racekey?? If you do please bring it with you. Hopefully with a hot spot and my computer I can get the darn thing updated so I can race. 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My guess is when we take off the old tires on the steel wheels we are going to find that most of these are bent or damaged. Before we drop $1,000 on new stuff, asking the group if there are any sitting in a back corner somewhere looking for a use. We can paint so finish isn?t a major concern for us. Appreciate any leads. Greg Sent from my iPhone From mark at efishers.com Tue Jul 15 14:41:08 2025 From: mark at efishers.com (Mark Fisher) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 20:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Fot] Kirkey seat In-Reply-To: <98D0852D-ED31-48AC-A67A-C198182669E8@gmail.com> References: <98D0852D-ED31-48AC-A67A-C198182669E8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <493725044.1978552.1752612068664@mail.yahoo.com> Anybody from Chicagoland or parts near going to Lime Rock??? On Monday, July 14, 2025 at 05:11:36 PM CDT, Chuck Gee via Fot wrote: Hello all, I just replaced the seat in my TR4 with a smaller one.? As a result, I have a decent Kirkey seat up for sale.? It?s an older seat, p/n 36900, and is 18? across on the inside.? It has the outer cloth covering with the foam.? Please see the pics for condition details.? $150 delivered to Lime Rock, or come get it for the same price.? I guess I could ship it since I have the box from the new seat, but that would be extra. Thanks, Chuck _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/mark at efishers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image5.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 86787 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dean On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 4:42?PM Mark Fisher via Fot wrote: > Anybody from Chicagoland or parts near going to Lime Rock? > > On Monday, July 14, 2025 at 05:11:36 PM CDT, Chuck Gee via Fot < > fot at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > I just replaced the seat in my TR4 with a smaller one. As a result, I > have a decent Kirkey seat up for sale. It?s an older seat, p/n 36900, and > is 18? across on the inside. It has the outer cloth covering with the > foam. Please see the pics for condition details. $150 delivered to Lime > Rock, or come get it for the same price. 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They do want the cars parked there for the lion's share of the weekend, so if someone is using the Triumph to commute to the track, they need to show up at a reasonable time and stay for the day and not use the car as transport during the day. The track is providing a free weekend pass for the owners these cars, that is a $171 bonus. The car is most welcome to participate on Sunday in either the Concours or the Gathering of the Marques. Anyone interested in this should email me ASAP and I will make sure to pass your information to the folks at the track who are running this with a note saying your entry is part of Kastner Cup festivities. The track has final say on who gets accepted, but I hope I have at least some sway! The track is also looking to enhance their entries for the Triumph class in Concours on Sunday, they are hoping to get a very nice example of each model for the judged concours. Again, email me with any questions or thoughts. It's all coming together, last count we are at 36 entrants, and we know a few of you still have not entered yet! Cheers Henry Frye KCup Chair, 2025 and 2026 860.508.3118 (m) From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Fri Jul 18 20:10:10 2025 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 21:10:10 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Kevin Vincent - No 8 Spitefire Message-ID: Howdy y?all. Welcoming Kevin Vincent to our esteemed group. He has been the owner of the former Glenn Valdez, former Bill Collins, former Ed Barnard spitfire for a couple years now. He has been running with us at CVAR. I?m embarrassed to admit I had no clue he hadn?t already been anointed. He reached out recently about Spitefire Transmission questions that instantly exceeded my abilities. I?m confident there are some amount us in possession of the knowledge he desires. Welcome aboard Kevin and hope to see you at ECR. Greg Sent from my iPhone From mark at bradakis.com Fri Jul 18 20:29:20 2025 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 20:29:20 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Kevin Vincent - No 8 Spitefire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6b03c1d7-c209-4495-a4e0-69a7e9f07a20@bradakis.com> On 7/18/25 8:10 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > Howdy y?all. > Welcoming Kevin Vincent to our esteemed group. He has been the owner of the former Glenn Valdez, former Bill Collins, former Ed Barnard spitfire for a couple years now. He has been running with us at CVAR. He has been added. Welcome aboard, Kevin! mjb. From pethier7 at gmail.com Fri Jul 18 21:48:42 2025 From: pethier7 at gmail.com (Philip Ethier) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 22:48:42 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Kevin Vincent - No 8 Spitefire In-Reply-To: <6b03c1d7-c209-4495-a4e0-69a7e9f07a20@bradakis.com> References: <6b03c1d7-c209-4495-a4e0-69a7e9f07a20@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Bill Collins from Saint Paul? On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 10:02?PM Mark Bradakis via Fot wrote: > On 7/18/25 8:10 PM, Greg Blake via Fot wrote: > > Howdy y?all. > > Welcoming Kevin Vincent to our esteemed group. He has been the owner of > the former Glenn Valdez, former Bill Collins, former Ed Barnard spitfire > for a couple years now. He has been running with us at CVAR. > > He has been added. Welcome aboard, Kevin! > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/pethier at comcast.net > > > -- Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA 2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white 2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white 2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white 1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white www.mnautox.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gblake58tr3 at icloud.com Fri Jul 18 22:11:35 2025 From: gblake58tr3 at icloud.com (Greg Blake) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 23:11:35 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Kevin Vincent - No 8 Spitefire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Welcome aboard, Kevin! > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage : > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/rkramer56 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomstrange5 at gmail.com Sat Jul 19 11:59:42 2025 From: tomstrange5 at gmail.com (tom strange) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2025 13:59:42 -0400 Subject: [Fot] shipping help Message-ID: Good afternoon, I cant seem to pull up the thread on car shipping, soooo, Appleton Wi to Westfield Vt, GT6, not running, plus extra parts. Is anyone on the list interested? I'd rather keep the money in the group if there is interest. Recommendations? The Good, Bad, and Ugly? I'll be moving #59 Red from Scott Barr to here in Vt. Any advice or info appreciated. 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Thanks to the list, we got Will hooked up with the perfect setup for this build. A set of KN 15x5.5? minlite style. Greg Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 15, 2025, at 10:29, Greg Blake wrote: > > ?Folks, > > Looking for wheels to use on my Son?s street TR3. We have a set of old revolution 15x7 that are a bit too wide. Also have a couple sets of old steel TR3 wheels. My guess is when we take off the old tires on the steel wheels we are going to find that most of these are bent or damaged. > > Before we drop $1,000 on new stuff, asking the group if there are any sitting in a back corner somewhere looking for a use. We can paint so finish isn?t a major concern for us. > > Appreciate any leads. > > Greg > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gblake58tr3 at icloud.com > > From jason at multivintage.com Mon Jul 21 23:22:41 2025 From: jason at multivintage.com (Jason Ostrowski) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 00:22:41 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Racing with the Big Wigs At RA Weathertech Message-ID: Most of you know that our Midwest extravaganza of Vintage Racing happens at Road America in Mid July. Brian Redmond, Weathertech Love it or Hate it... The Event is spectacular, rich and full of all the hoop-la that is beyond our small Triumph minds. This year was no exception and most of the Triumphs that showed up to the Marque massacre looked good and performed descent but only to about mid pack. Frankly, regardless of whatever excuse I'd like to come up with: Elva, Porsche, Alfa, Datsun, MG And Austin Healey had us beat in both of the vintage production groups. Tech was pretty tough. Lots of scrutinizing, that caused some a second trip to tech or a note in the log log book about rule infractions. I wasn't driving but had a blast crewing for all my big American car teammates, and Dave and Alex Amys in 2 of our best Midwest Triumphs. It was 4 days of racing Problems and Bliss. I have 2 Shout outs for our Guys who really brought something Awesome To the BIG SHOW.... First Goes to my good friend Alex Amys.. A younger, prettier, faster version of myself who has done everything right in the world of GT6 Racing since the very beginning of his Triumph Quest. Alex Brought out his new and improved GT6 for the first time in 2 years... since being the innocent victim of a bad oil spill; which caused a hard nasty bang and brush into the wall at the kink And Now, In its new debut; the car is totally awesome. Clean, trick, and a masterpiece of smart engineering! I couldn't be more happy and proud to see him back on track; better, and rebuilt to such a high standard.... A+ Alex Amys. Second is (surprise) another killer GT6. This car made its debut at the RA Kastner Cup in 2023 after a 4 year scratch build. Tom Reiss and Mike Gwizdek 2 years later, the car has benefited from practical development and earned knowledge. These guys have great mechanical minds and have built a very sophisticated and well thought car. Once these fellows are able to accumulate data from their car and its fantastic designs, their success will soon rapidly follow. They are from the the Milwaukee Area Color scheme is nice with Blue white and red #23 A+ Reidek Racing. 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Knock a couple of zeroes off that $80,000 and you'd be getting closer to what I would actually expect out of the car. The wheels alone, Keizer 13 x 6 in the front, 13 x 8 in the back, are probably worth a few bucks. Well, once cleaned up and polished. And the rear spring, lowering block and welded diff are worth having, at least to someone. But the car has been sitting outside under a tarp for close to two decades. It is dirty, rust starting to form on some surfaces. Not a pretty sight. Pugs and I put a LOT of effort into building that car, it deserves better than what I can give it. I am pretty sure I will not get around to getting it going again in my remaining years. Would be nice to see it come back to life. Who knows, maybe someday some young kid will have a Buddy Palermo moment in the parking lot of the VTR host hotel at a future convention, roaring around and scaring the paying customers in a resurrected Killer. A few pics of Killer as it sits at the moment. That rotting hulk of a TR7 is another sad story. Sigh. I will consider all offers. Offered as is, where is. My trick, tilting, made for Spitfires trailer was stolen a few years back, so I can't help with transport. The carcass sits in Salt Lake City, Utah. mjb. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20250720_163313.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 656411 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20250720_163430.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 674848 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20250720_163236.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 643445 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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After many years of racing this car, it was sold and moved to California. I would like to know if it is still around. I then began racing a BMW E30 M3 great car but expensive to repair. I did well but my passion has always been ?TRIUMPH?. Covid happened and all things racing slowed down, the BMW went into storage and the wheels started turning if you know what I mean. Hmmm, lets look for a Triumph again!! I was at the Toronto Triumph club British car day when I was approached by a gentleman who stated he did have a TR4a that he raced from new 1966 until 1976 and then stored the car in his family barn for 50 years. He lived and worked on the west and east coast and the car was set to D production specks. This person worked with Kas and Tullius to set up his car attending both of their facilities. This D production racer and his wife have won many many awards and trophies. I have some of them and many slides to prove this. Although Kas did not sign the car his work is all over it. I have been out to the VARAC vintage festival and now out to a second venue in Shannonville Ontario. Shaking the dust bunnies from me and the car, the adrenaline rush is as strong as ever and I can see a wonderful future for us. ? I would like to send a heartfelt thanks to Mike Deweerd for helping get this racing thing going again. See you racers at the Green Flag and looking forward to the Kastner Cup in 2026. Matt Molson Rogue 44 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TR4aShannonville1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 72524 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: TR4aShannonville2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 60745 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Terry > On Jul 22, 2025, at 02:22, Mark Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?Well, currently Spitfires are selling for $80,000 as we all know. That's for a complete, running, driveable car. Which Killer is not. So I would be willing to settle for 1/4th the price, $20,000. Oh what the ... for FOT members I'll cut it to $15,000. > > I imagine JS Performance in Ohio could source a nice motor and gearbox for a mere $30,000 or so. So far that would be $45,000 for a running car. Way below the 80 grand mark! Such a deal!! > > Okay, time to be serious. Knock a couple of zeroes off that $80,000 and you'd be getting closer to what I would actually expect out of the car. The wheels alone, Keizer 13 x 6 in the front, 13 x 8 in the back, are probably worth a few bucks. Well, once cleaned up and polished. And the rear spring, lowering block and welded diff are worth having, at least to someone. > > But the car has been sitting outside under a tarp for close to two decades. It is dirty, rust starting to form on some surfaces. Not a pretty sight. Pugs and I put a LOT of effort into building that car, it deserves better than what I can give it. I am pretty sure I will not get around to getting it going again in my remaining years. > > Would be nice to see it come back to life. Who knows, maybe someday some young kid will have a Buddy Palermo moment in the parking lot of the VTR host hotel at a future convention, roaring around and scaring the paying customers in a resurrected Killer. > > A few pics of Killer as it sits at the moment. That rotting hulk of a TR7 is another sad story. Sigh. > > I will consider all offers. Offered as is, where is. My trick, tilting, made for Spitfires trailer was stolen a few years back, so I can't help with transport. The carcass sits in Salt Lake City, Utah. > > mjb. > <20250720_163313.jpg> > <20250720_163430.jpg> > <20250720_163236.jpg> > <20250720_163214.jpg> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/terrysopher at gmail.com > > From david.c.cutter at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 09:11:27 2025 From: david.c.cutter at gmail.com (David Cutter) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 11:11:27 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Killer, or what's left, for sale. In-Reply-To: <7EEBB9B1-3459-4AEF-9E5C-9AD9E14DCE05@gmail.com> References: <25ab6577-86ee-4f45-92b8-62671081637b@bradakis.com> <7EEBB9B1-3459-4AEF-9E5C-9AD9E14DCE05@gmail.com> Message-ID: Terry, tell us the story on your Spit! Were you surprised at the BaT auction final price? Why do you think it went so high? I am sure all of us with Spitfires in the shed sent that auction to our friends/family/significant others and said something to the effect of "I told you I was sitting on a gold mine." :-) Shelby just smiled at me when I showed her your auction. Cheers, Dave and Shelby Spit #142 On Tue, Jul 22, 2025 at 9:08?AM Terry Sopher via Fot wrote: > Love the marketing humor Mark! > > FWIW That $80k Spitfire came from a FOT member - Me! > > Good luck w/ Killer! > > Terry > > > On Jul 22, 2025, at 02:22, Mark Bradakis via Fot > wrote: > > > > ?Well, currently Spitfires are selling for $80,000 as we all know. > That's for a complete, running, driveable car. Which Killer is not. So I > would be willing to settle for 1/4th the price, $20,000. Oh what the ... > for FOT members I'll cut it to $15,000. > > > > I imagine JS Performance in Ohio could source a nice motor and gearbox > for a mere $30,000 or so. So far that would be $45,000 for a running car. > Way below the 80 grand mark! Such a deal!! > > > > Okay, time to be serious. Knock a couple of zeroes off that $80,000 and > you'd be getting closer to what I would actually expect out of the car. The > wheels alone, Keizer 13 x 6 in the front, 13 x 8 in the back, are probably > worth a few bucks. Well, once cleaned up and polished. And the rear > spring, lowering block and welded diff are worth having, at least to > someone. > > > > But the car has been sitting outside under a tarp for close to two > decades. It is dirty, rust starting to form on some surfaces. Not a > pretty sight. Pugs and I put a LOT of effort into building that car, it > deserves better than what I can give it. I am pretty sure I will not get > around to getting it going again in my remaining years. > > > > Would be nice to see it come back to life. Who knows, maybe someday > some young kid will have a Buddy Palermo moment in the parking lot of the > VTR host hotel at a future convention, roaring around and scaring the > paying customers in a resurrected Killer. > > > > A few pics of Killer as it sits at the moment. That rotting hulk of a > TR7 is another sad story. Sigh. > > > > I will consider all offers. Offered as is, where is. My trick, > tilting, made for Spitfires trailer was stolen a few years back, so I can't > help with transport. 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In-Reply-To: <25ab6577-86ee-4f45-92b8-62671081637b@bradakis.com> References: <25ab6577-86ee-4f45-92b8-62671081637b@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <2730A97F-2E3A-4880-A8A6-299A223EE793@seiri.com> Anyone coming out for the Kastner Cup got an empty trailer spot? ;) > On Jul 22, 2025, at 02:27, Mark Bradakis via Fot wrote: > > ?Well, currently Spitfires are selling for $80,000 as we all know. That's for a complete, running, driveable car. Which Killer is not. So I would be willing to settle for 1/4th the price, $20,000. Oh what the ... for FOT members I'll cut it to $15,000. > > I imagine JS Performance in Ohio could source a nice motor and gearbox for a mere $30,000 or so. So far that would be $45,000 for a running car. Way below the 80 grand mark! Such a deal!! > > Okay, time to be serious. Knock a couple of zeroes off that $80,000 and you'd be getting closer to what I would actually expect out of the car. The wheels alone, Keizer 13 x 6 in the front, 13 x 8 in the back, are probably worth a few bucks. Well, once cleaned up and polished. And the rear spring, lowering block and welded diff are worth having, at least to someone. > > But the car has been sitting outside under a tarp for close to two decades. It is dirty, rust starting to form on some surfaces. Not a pretty sight. Pugs and I put a LOT of effort into building that car, it deserves better than what I can give it. I am pretty sure I will not get around to getting it going again in my remaining years. > > Would be nice to see it come back to life. Who knows, maybe someday some young kid will have a Buddy Palermo moment in the parking lot of the VTR host hotel at a future convention, roaring around and scaring the paying customers in a resurrected Killer. > > A few pics of Killer as it sits at the moment. That rotting hulk of a TR7 is another sad story. Sigh. > > I will consider all offers. Offered as is, where is. My trick, tilting, made for Spitfires trailer was stolen a few years back, so I can't help with transport. The carcass sits in Salt Lake City, Utah. > > mjb. > <20250720_163313.jpg> > <20250720_163430.jpg> > <20250720_163236.jpg> > <20250720_163214.jpg> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bownes at web9.com > > From mark at bradakis.com Tue Jul 22 15:46:01 2025 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2025 15:46:01 -0600 Subject: [Fot] Killer, or what's left, for sale. In-Reply-To: <2730A97F-2E3A-4880-A8A6-299A223EE793@seiri.com> References: <25ab6577-86ee-4f45-92b8-62671081637b@bradakis.com> <2730A97F-2E3A-4880-A8A6-299A223EE793@seiri.com> Message-ID: <0a5a7e6a-2974-439e-9065-b1e0168d5355@bradakis.com> On 7/22/25 2:24 PM, Bob Bownes -Seiri wrote: > > Anyone coming out for the Kastner Cup got an empty trailer spot? ;) > Would be nice! Would be nice if I could attend, but I don't think that is going to happen. Shucks. mjb. From vfracing at aol.com Wed Jul 23 07:29:34 2025 From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2025 09:29:34 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Glove box door check link References: Message-ID: Friends; Does anyone have an extra ?check link? that keeps the glove box door from flopping fully open in a wooden dash 4A? Looking to replace one on my car. It has ?gone missing.? Thanks, Phil Gott 508 414 0256 Sent from my iPhone From jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com Wed Jul 23 07:53:41 2025 From: jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com (Gerald Van Vlack) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2025 13:53:41 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Glove box door check link In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Call Scott Harper at Team Triumph 330-392-7176 after about 1:00PM. He's in Warren OH and has tons of "stuff" been my go to guy for years. JVV ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Philip Gott via Fot Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2025 9:29 AM To: New England Triumphs ; Friends Of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Glove box door check link Friends; Does anyone have an extra ?check link? that keeps the glove box door from flopping fully open in a wooden dash 4A? Looking to replace one on my car. It has ?gone missing.? Thanks, Phil Gott 508 414 0256 Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jerryvvtr4a at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Thu Jul 24 07:07:30 2025 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2025 09:07:30 -0400 Subject: [Fot] "Discounted" entry ends August 1 for the 2025 Kastner Cup! Message-ID: <5e07e5b6af19b3217a564d70a906181c@tr4racer.com> Kastner Cup Racers, If you have not registered yet and you are planning on running with us at the Kastner Cup and want to save 100 bucks, you will want to get your entry in now. After August 1, the entry fee goes from $850 to $950. Our entries are sitting pretty at 38, and I know at least a couple of guys are intending on coming but have not pulled the trigger on registration yet. It's time! Plans are looking good, stay tuned for more details! Cheers Henry Frye KCup chair, 2025 and 2026 From vfracing at aol.com Fri Jul 25 06:00:50 2025 From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:00:50 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Glove box door check link In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <856B3B5F-3D2E-4A3D-9AA6-2B0E9805FD78@aol.com> Thanks to those who responded. Between several folks I should be all set. Regards to all! Phil Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2025, at 9:40?AM, Philip Gott via Fot wrote: > > ?Friends; > Does anyone have an extra ?check link? that keeps the glove box door from flopping fully open in a wooden dash 4A? Looking to replace one on my car. It has ?gone missing.? > Thanks, > Phil Gott > 508 414 0256 > > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vfracing at aol.com > > From mark at dieselperformanceparts.com Fri Jul 25 09:43:40 2025 From: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com (Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 15:43:40 +0000 Subject: [Fot] FW: Carrillo Rod Bolts In-Reply-To: References: <53c1788c90764ff38beb44b9e7333c28@dieselperformanceparts.com> <45f5994be95248c189174af5c477ca69@dieselperformanceparts.com> Message-ID: Hey Triumph Friends! The info connecting rod and connecting rod fastener info below is possibly VERY useful for a lot of you so I thought I would post it for everyone. I have removed the contact at Carillo to keep them form being pestered with questions but this is direct from the head man at Carillo that is involved with rods and rod bolts daily. [cid:image001.png at 01DBFD39.826434D0] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFD39.826434D0] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:38 AM To: Sean Alexander ; Brendan Alexander Cc: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts HI Sean, Happy to help. This may be more information than you need to make a decision. The stretch range can be achieved between 70-100ftlbs. However, this does not mean that you need to go to 100ftlbs to achieve the proper stretch. Once you achieve the proper stretch you don?t keep torquing the bolts. It is possible to have the bolts take less torque to achieve the desired stretch; this is one of the reasons there is a torque range rather than a suggested torque. This is even more true when the rods and bolts are used and have been torqued multiple times already, as the bolt under head to spot-face and the threads of the two components can polish each other differently. Since torque is only measuring the force to overcome the friction between the two parts, the more polished they are the less friction thus the less torque. We did a study here a few years back and saw that if we took the same rod and bolt and tightened it to the same torque number the bolt kept stretching until it was no longer polishing itself. Same for stretching the bolt repeatedly we saw the required torque dropping. In both of these tests the torque and stretch seemed to stabilize after approx. 10 torque cycles, this could vary overall as well as between different bolts which is why we prefer recommended stretch since bolt stretch actually determines how much clamp load the bolts are providing. With that said, when you loosened them, do they return to zero on the stretch gauge? If they do return to zero, then you can still use the bolts. If not I would replace them. I know some customers will just replace the bolts for peace of mind, but I do not think this is necessary if the bolts do not continue to get grow in length once released. Fyi, I would put a max of 0.001 permanent stretch from original length. Hope this information helps you. If you have any questions or need further assistance. Please feel free to reach out to be by email or phone. Kind regards [cid:image005.gif at 01DBFD3D.001D3C70] A member of Pankl Group [cid:image006.jpg at 01DBFD3D.001D3C70] [cid:image007.gif at 01DBFD3D.001D3C70] [cid:image008.gif at 01DBFD3D.001D3C70] Our email disclaimer CP-Carrillo, Inc. 1902 McGaw Ave Irvine, CA 92614 Phone: 949-567-9000 Fax: 949-567-9010 www.cp-carrillo.com From: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 6:21 AM To: Sean Alexander > Cc: Brendan Alexander >; Richard Batchelor < Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts Meet Sean at Alexander Raing he is the fellow with the rod bolts we have conversed with, Can you and he talk and then Sean will decide if and how many bolt sets he needs. See his email info below on the stretch he is seeing. Thank you. [cid:image001.png at 01DBFD39.826434D0] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFD39.826434D0] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 3:33 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Mark, Ouch on the price We have two bolts that we did not go past the recommended max torque of 100 ft/lbs but the elongation was .002" over max. or total of .0095". We snuck up on the torque checking the stretch each setting until we saw the overstretch. We loosened and retorqued at the min of 70 ft/lbs and they stretched to .007" must faster/lower toruqe than previously and faster than any of the other bolts. Can you field our specific situation with your contact or we can call Carrillo and get you out of the middle on this part of the discussion. What is the lead time on 2 or 4 bolts? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 2:47?PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sent you an email yesterday?? The factory guy at Carrillo says those bolts are good for 18-20 retorques. He seems to feel you don?t need to replace them till then? His exact words: These bolts can be torqued 18-20 times without issue. They are 54.53 per bolt if you want new ones though. [cid:image001.png at 01DBFD39.826434D0] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFD39.826434D0] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 2:42 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, Following up on the rod bolt pricing and delivery. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 9:13?AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Great pic thanks! I will see what they say!! [cid:image001.png at 01DBFD39.826434D0] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFD39.826434D0] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 8:39 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, We need to replace our rod bolts. Part number that came with the Rods you sold us is S6-N-037-PS Looking forward to your reply on price and lead-time. [cid:image003.png at 01DBFD39.826434D0] [cid:image004.png at 01DBFD39.826434D0] Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 5:17?PM Sean Alexander > wrote: Yep, not surprised. Please proceed with with the qouted lead time. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 3:10 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Got to love the current state or production!!! Carrillo needs a confirmation from you to me so I can send it back to Carrillo on these rods. Here is their story and they want to make sure you are agreeable with it: These are only made when ordered and cannot be cancelled for any reason Production is 12-14 weeks Please confirm your customer can wait. Lead Times Due to an overwhelming demand and work load, our lead times have gone up and cannot be guaranteed. Steel Rods are Approx. 12-14 weeks production Pistons are Approx. 10-12 weeks. More complex designs may take longer and Coatings can add 2-4 weeks depending on the coatings requested. While we will always do our best to meet our delivery dates during this time, there are times we may be late. We are implanting a required deposit for custom Pistons and Rods, please ask what deposit may be required for your order. Custom orders are not cancellable for any reason, even if we are running late on your order. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and your customers. We are doing our best and will strive to improve our deliveries as best as we can Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:29 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Excellent, thanks for double checking. Please place an order for the set of four rods ~ CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S. Let me know when you need the check mailed or if you have another payment preference. Appreciate your support to the Triumph racing community. Are you actively racing your car this year? 2022 Kastner Cup is at the Pitt International Race facility, only a 10 or 11 hour tow from Nashville. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Nope that is correct!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:07 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Increase is $24.84 for the set of 4? Any chance you have a typo in the price, I would have expected a larger increase considering all of the craziness. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sean, Ok they did go up, steel costs and C19 and all that BS of course. New cost is 1187.36 for a set of 4. Last time on 2018 they were 1162.52. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:41 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Craig, Sounds good. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:49 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: They changed pricing big surprise with C19 right?? Trying to get a new cost for you but there is no one around at so many vendors. Give me a moment. I?ll get you a number. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:06 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Hope you have been well! 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Don't know why I have them, LOL! * 1 GT6 parts car, rusty and missing lost of stuff but the basic car and engine is still there. * 1 square tail Spitfire parts car, again pretty rusty but lots of stuff to fix up a race car or street car. * 1 GT6 square tail frame totally stripped frame, frame only. Other stuff I don't even know I have, but these are the big bulky parts that need a home. All of it is in Nashville, Tennessee at my office. I can meet there on weekdays or weekends you can see it all and look thru the 5-7 pallets of other parts I have too. I have 2 square tail race cars that will be gone thru AKA restored one more time before I decide down the line to retire myself from racing, so some parts stay with me but EVERYTHING else is for sale. I want to offer this to the membership first as you are the guys that keep the Triumph world alive and deserve first pick!! Can't tell ya how much you all and the site has helped me thru the years. Also a HUGE AIR CAPACITY 120 gallon, 4 cylinder two stage, Champion air compressor, 220V single phase, a 4 foot bead blast cabinet, a 6 foot long steel workbench made from river barge plate steel. A 220V single phase hot water pressure washer fired by kerosene, a ALC 100-pound capacity pressure pot sand blaster and more all in good operational condition. I have a forklift to load too. My contact info is below in my signature. [cid:image001.png at 01DBFD54.595192C0] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFD54.595192C0] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: I am looking for an assist to transport one of Ted's racing windscreens from his shop in Pandora, Ohio to Lime Rock. Anybody who has worked with one of these large lexan pieces know how fragile they are, and the packaging required to make it safe for the big brown trucks is an expensive pain in the rear end. Ted will wrap it in cardboard making it safe to handle, just not with the layers necessary to make it safe for the common shippers. Any help greatly appreciated! While I can't guarantee helping me out will give you any better chance of getting your name engraved on the Kastner Cup, I can say your cooler will benefit with your libation of choice! Cheers Henry Frye KCup chair, 2025 and 2026 860.508.3118 From tbpodmore3 at aol.com Sat Jul 26 13:53:21 2025 From: tbpodmore3 at aol.com (tbpodmore3) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2025 15:53:21 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Is anybody coming to Lime Rock through the vicinity of Ted Schumacher? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1132729863.124444.1753559606510@aol.com> Henry - I'm in NE Ohio and have bought one of Ted's windscreens for the #75 Halkias/PLN car. If we can figure out how to get yours to someplace near me (his daughter is fairly close to me geographically - assuming she'd visit her Dad between now and then), I'd be happy to bring it the rest of the way.Tom PodmoreSent from my smartphone -------- Original message --------From: yellow04 via Fot Date: 7/26/25 11:32 AM (GMT-05:00) To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Is anybody coming to Lime Rock through the vicinity of Ted Schumacher? I am looking for an assist to transport one of Ted's racing windscreens from his shop in Pandora, Ohio to Lime Rock. Anybody who has worked with one of these large lexan pieces know how fragile they are, and the packaging required to make it safe for the big brown trucks is an expensive pain in the rear end. Ted will wrap it in cardboard making it safe to handle, just not with the layers necessary to make it safe for the common shippers.Any help greatly appreciated! While I can't guarantee helping me out will give you any better chance of getting your name engraved on the Kastner Cup, I can say your cooler will benefit with your libation of choice!CheersHenry FryeKCup chair, 2025 and 2026860.508.3118_______________________________________________fot at autox.team.nethttp://www.fot-racing.comDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fotUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tbpodmore3 at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Mon Jul 28 09:38:14 2025 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 11:38:14 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Is anybody coming to Lime Rock through the vicinity of Ted Schumacher? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <568c17df42c1f6dd929b431e0c8098a5@tr4racer.com> Thanks to everyone who offered to help. Issue is handled, thanks to Dave Cutter! Cheers Henry Frye KCup Chair, 2025 and 2026 860.508.3118 On 2025-07-26 11:25, yellow04 via Fot wrote: > I am looking for an assist to transport one of Ted's racing > windscreens From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Mon Jul 28 09:48:55 2025 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 15:48:55 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts In-Reply-To: References: <53c1788c90764ff38beb44b9e7333c28@dieselperformanceparts.com> <45f5994be95248c189174af5c477ca69@dieselperformanceparts.com> Message-ID: I always had trouble with the process of determining whether the Carillo rod bolts were returning to zero stretch after the use. How do people handle that? Do you create a chart for each bolt in each location ? i.e., lower rod bolt, rod #1? And then set them in a labeled rack pending reassembly? I sometimes felt like I was getting them mixed up and could never trust that I was measuring the same bolt for the same hole. These were the teensy little ?? Spitfire rod bolts that took, I think, 18 ftlbs of torque. Part of the reason I liked my Pauter rods was that I could use a much larger ARP rod bolt. Scott (B.) From: Fot On Behalf Of Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts via Fot Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:44 AM To: Friends Of Triumph Subject: [Fot] FW: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hey Triumph Friends! The info connecting rod and connecting rod fastener info below is possibly VERY useful for a lot of you so I thought I would post it for everyone. I have removed the contact at Carillo to keep them form being pestered with questions but this is direct from the head man at Carillo that is involved with rods and rod bolts daily. [cid:image001.png at 01DBFFAC.69731890] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFFAC.69731890] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:38 AM To: Sean Alexander >; Brendan Alexander > Cc: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts HI Sean, Happy to help. This may be more information than you need to make a decision. The stretch range can be achieved between 70-100ftlbs. However, this does not mean that you need to go to 100ftlbs to achieve the proper stretch. Once you achieve the proper stretch you don?t keep torquing the bolts. It is possible to have the bolts take less torque to achieve the desired stretch; this is one of the reasons there is a torque range rather than a suggested torque. This is even more true when the rods and bolts are used and have been torqued multiple times already, as the bolt under head to spot-face and the threads of the two components can polish each other differently. Since torque is only measuring the force to overcome the friction between the two parts, the more polished they are the less friction thus the less torque. We did a study here a few years back and saw that if we took the same rod and bolt and tightened it to the same torque number the bolt kept stretching until it was no longer polishing itself. Same for stretching the bolt repeatedly we saw the required torque dropping. In both of these tests the torque and stretch seemed to stabilize after approx. 10 torque cycles, this could vary overall as well as between different bolts which is why we prefer recommended stretch since bolt stretch actually determines how much clamp load the bolts are providing. With that said, when you loosened them, do they return to zero on the stretch gauge? If they do return to zero, then you can still use the bolts. If not I would replace them. I know some customers will just replace the bolts for peace of mind, but I do not think this is necessary if the bolts do not continue to get grow in length once released. Fyi, I would put a max of 0.001 permanent stretch from original length. Hope this information helps you. If you have any questions or need further assistance. Please feel free to reach out to be by email or phone. Kind regards [cid:image005.gif at 01DBFFAC.69731890] A member of Pankl Group [cid:image006.jpg at 01DBFFAC.69731890] [cid:image007.gif at 01DBFFAC.69731890] [cid:image008.gif at 01DBFFAC.69731890] Our email disclaimer CP-Carrillo, Inc. 1902 McGaw Ave Irvine, CA 92614 Phone: 949-567-9000 Fax: 949-567-9010 www.cp-carrillo.com From: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 6:21 AM To: Sean Alexander > Cc: Brendan Alexander >; Richard Batchelor < Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts Meet Sean at Alexander Raing he is the fellow with the rod bolts we have conversed with, Can you and he talk and then Sean will decide if and how many bolt sets he needs. See his email info below on the stretch he is seeing. Thank you. [cid:image001.png at 01DBFFAC.69731890] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFFAC.69731890] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 3:33 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Mark, Ouch on the price We have two bolts that we did not go past the recommended max torque of 100 ft/lbs but the elongation was .002" over max. or total of .0095". We snuck up on the torque checking the stretch each setting until we saw the overstretch. We loosened and retorqued at the min of 70 ft/lbs and they stretched to .007" must faster/lower toruqe than previously and faster than any of the other bolts. Can you field our specific situation with your contact or we can call Carrillo and get you out of the middle on this part of the discussion. What is the lead time on 2 or 4 bolts? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 2:47?PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sent you an email yesterday?? The factory guy at Carrillo says those bolts are good for 18-20 retorques. He seems to feel you don?t need to replace them till then? His exact words: These bolts can be torqued 18-20 times without issue. They are 54.53 per bolt if you want new ones though. [cid:image001.png at 01DBFFAC.69731890] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFFAC.69731890] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 2:42 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, Following up on the rod bolt pricing and delivery. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 9:13?AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Great pic thanks! I will see what they say!! [cid:image001.png at 01DBFFAC.69731890] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFFAC.69731890] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 8:39 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, We need to replace our rod bolts. Part number that came with the Rods you sold us is S6-N-037-PS Looking forward to your reply on price and lead-time. [cid:image010.png at 01DBFFAC.69731890] [cid:image011.png at 01DBFFAC.69731890] Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 5:17?PM Sean Alexander > wrote: Yep, not surprised. Please proceed with with the qouted lead time. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 3:10 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Got to love the current state or production!!! Carrillo needs a confirmation from you to me so I can send it back to Carrillo on these rods. Here is their story and they want to make sure you are agreeable with it: These are only made when ordered and cannot be cancelled for any reason Production is 12-14 weeks Please confirm your customer can wait. Lead Times Due to an overwhelming demand and work load, our lead times have gone up and cannot be guaranteed. Steel Rods are Approx. 12-14 weeks production Pistons are Approx. 10-12 weeks. More complex designs may take longer and Coatings can add 2-4 weeks depending on the coatings requested. While we will always do our best to meet our delivery dates during this time, there are times we may be late. We are implanting a required deposit for custom Pistons and Rods, please ask what deposit may be required for your order. Custom orders are not cancellable for any reason, even if we are running late on your order. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and your customers. We are doing our best and will strive to improve our deliveries as best as we can Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:29 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Excellent, thanks for double checking. Please place an order for the set of four rods ~ CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S. Let me know when you need the check mailed or if you have another payment preference. Appreciate your support to the Triumph racing community. Are you actively racing your car this year? 2022 Kastner Cup is at the Pitt International Race facility, only a 10 or 11 hour tow from Nashville. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Nope that is correct!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:07 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Increase is $24.84 for the set of 4? Any chance you have a typo in the price, I would have expected a larger increase considering all of the craziness. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sean, Ok they did go up, steel costs and C19 and all that BS of course. New cost is 1187.36 for a set of 4. Last time on 2018 they were 1162.52. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:41 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Craig, Sounds good. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:49 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: They changed pricing big surprise with C19 right?? Trying to get a new cost for you but there is no one around at so many vendors. Give me a moment. I?ll get you a number. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:06 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Hope you have been well! 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I briefly met Bob this weekend at the Brainerd SCCA Majors series race. He's got a beautiful TR6 running in EProd. He could use some help with various elements of making it work the way it's supposed to. Scott (B.) PS, (non-Triumph content warning) I scored a 4th of 23 Spec Racer Fords running the Major (National) at BIR this weekend on my first visit to the track. Very pleased with myself this morning and have no one else to brag to. (end non-triumph content, please resume normal traffic) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Mon Jul 28 10:53:46 2025 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 12:53:46 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts In-Reply-To: References: <53c1788c90764ff38beb44b9e7333c28@dieselperformanceparts.com> <45f5994be95248c189174af5c477ca69@dieselperformanceparts.com> Message-ID: <44C1F10E-8586-4253-902F-067B1ED51B3A@me.com> Yep, pain in the butt. I have the same ones on the GT6. I finally got a good ARP stretch gauge to replace the inferior one I had, which has made the job easier by providing more consistent readings and easy centering on the bolt. Have to measure them before you loosen them, then measure them after you loosen them, then reverse when you reinstall. I just keep the bolts with the individual rods. The biggest issue is the price!!! I will say I got a set from ARP at one point, and they stretched out after about three cycles, so the Carillo ones, though more costly, seem to hold up better. On Jul 28, 2025, at 11:48?AM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: I always had trouble with the process of determining whether the Carillo rod bolts were returning to zero stretch after the use. How do people handle that? Do you create a chart for each bolt in each location ? i.e., lower rod bolt, rod #1? And then set them in a labeled rack pending reassembly? I sometimes felt like I was getting them mixed up and could never trust that I was measuring the same bolt for the same hole. These were the teensy little ?? Spitfire rod bolts that took, I think, 18 ftlbs of torque. Part of the reason I liked my Pauter rods was that I could use a much larger ARP rod bolt. Scott (B.) From: Fot > On Behalf Of Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts via Fot Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:44 AM To: Friends Of Triumph > Subject: [Fot] FW: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hey Triumph Friends! The info connecting rod and connecting rod fastener info below is possibly VERY useful for a lot of you so I thought I would post it for everyone. I have removed the contact at Carillo to keep them form being pestered with questions but this is direct from the head man at Carillo that is involved with rods and rod bolts daily. MARK CRAIG Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:38 AM To: Sean Alexander >; Brendan Alexander > Cc: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts HI Sean, Happy to help. This may be more information than you need to make a decision. The stretch range can be achieved between 70-100ftlbs. However, this does not mean that you need to go to 100ftlbs to achieve the proper stretch. Once you achieve the proper stretch you don?t keep torquing the bolts. It is possible to have the bolts take less torque to achieve the desired stretch; this is one of the reasons there is a torque range rather than a suggested torque. This is even more true when the rods and bolts are used and have been torqued multiple times already, as the bolt under head to spot-face and the threads of the two components can polish each other differently. Since torque is only measuring the force to overcome the friction between the two parts, the more polished they are the less friction thus the less torque. We did a study here a few years back and saw that if we took the same rod and bolt and tightened it to the same torque number the bolt kept stretching until it was no longer polishing itself. Same for stretching the bolt repeatedly we saw the required torque dropping. In both of these tests the torque and stretch seemed to stabilize after approx. 10 torque cycles, this could vary overall as well as between different bolts which is why we prefer recommended stretch since bolt stretch actually determines how much clamp load the bolts are providing. With that said, when you loosened them, do they return to zero on the stretch gauge? If they do return to zero, then you can still use the bolts. If not I would replace them. I know some customers will just replace the bolts for peace of mind, but I do not think this is necessary if the bolts do not continue to get grow in length once released. Fyi, I would put a max of 0.001 permanent stretch from original length. Hope this information helps you. If you have any questions or need further assistance. Please feel free to reach out to be by email or phone. Kind regards A member of Pankl Group Our email disclaimer CP-Carrillo, Inc. 1902 McGaw Ave Irvine, CA 92614 Phone: 949-567-9000 Fax: 949-567-9010 www.cp-carrillo.com From: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 6:21 AM To: Sean Alexander > Cc: Brendan Alexander >; Richard Batchelor < Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts Meet Sean at Alexander Raing he is the fellow with the rod bolts we have conversed with, Can you and he talk and then Sean will decide if and how many bolt sets he needs. See his email info below on the stretch he is seeing. Thank you. MARK CRAIG Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 3:33 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Mark, Ouch on the price We have two bolts that we did not go past the recommended max torque of 100 ft/lbs but the elongation was .002" over max. or total of .0095". We snuck up on the torque checking the stretch each setting until we saw the overstretch. We loosened and retorqued at the min of 70 ft/lbs and they stretched to .007" must faster/lower toruqe than previously and faster than any of the other bolts. Can you field our specific situation with your contact or we can call Carrillo and get you out of the middle on this part of the discussion. What is the lead time on 2 or 4 bolts? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 2:47?PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sent you an email yesterday?? The factory guy at Carrillo says those bolts are good for 18-20 retorques. He seems to feel you don?t need to replace them till then? His exact words: These bolts can be torqued 18-20 times without issue. They are 54.53 per bolt if you want new ones though. MARK CRAIG Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 2:42 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, Following up on the rod bolt pricing and delivery. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 9:13?AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Great pic thanks! I will see what they say!! MARK CRAIG Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 8:39 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, We need to replace our rod bolts. Part number that came with the Rods you sold us is S6-N-037-PS Looking forward to your reply on price and lead-time. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 5:17?PM Sean Alexander > wrote: Yep, not surprised. Please proceed with with the qouted lead time. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 3:10 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Got to love the current state or production!!! Carrillo needs a confirmation from you to me so I can send it back to Carrillo on these rods. Here is their story and they want to make sure you are agreeable with it: These are only made when ordered and cannot be cancelled for any reason Production is 12-14 weeks Please confirm your customer can wait. Lead Times Due to an overwhelming demand and work load, our lead times have gone up and cannot be guaranteed. Steel Rods are Approx. 12-14 weeks production Pistons are Approx. 10-12 weeks. More complex designs may take longer and Coatings can add 2-4 weeks depending on the coatings requested. While we will always do our best to meet our delivery dates during this time, there are times we may be late. We are implanting a required deposit for custom Pistons and Rods, please ask what deposit may be required for your order. Custom orders are not cancellable for any reason, even if we are running late on your order. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and your customers. We are doing our best and will strive to improve our deliveries as best as we can ? MARK CRAIG Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com ?? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com ] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:29 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Excellent, thanks for double checking. Please place an order for the set of four rods ~ CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S. Let me know when you need the check mailed or if you have another payment preference. Appreciate your support to the Triumph racing community. Are you actively racing your car this year? 2022 Kastner Cup is at the Pitt International Race facility, only a 10 or 11 hour tow from Nashville. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Nope that is correct!! MARK CRAIG Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com ] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:07 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Increase is $24.84 for the set of 4? Any chance you have a typo in the price, I would have expected a larger increase considering all of the craziness. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sean, Ok they did go up, steel costs and C19 and all that BS of course. New cost is 1187.36 for a set of 4. Last time on 2018 they were 1162.52. MARK CRAIG Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com ] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:41 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Craig, Sounds good. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:49 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: They changed pricing big surprise with C19 right?? Trying to get a new cost for you but there is no one around at so many vendors. Give me a moment. I?ll get you a number. MARK CRAIG Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com ] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:06 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Hope you have been well! Looking for current pricing for the same Carrillo four rod set you sold us in 2018 (reference your invoice 382923) CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My 2cents,Bob T63 spitfire??64 spitfire autocrosser On Monday, July 28, 2025 at 12:39:27 PM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: I always had trouble with the process of determining whether the Carillo rod bolts were returning to zero stretch after the use.? ? How do people handle that?? Do you create a chart for each bolt in each location ? i.e., lower rod bolt, rod #1?? And then set them in a labeled rack pending reassembly?? ? I sometimes felt like I was getting them mixed up and could never trust that I was measuring the same bolt for the same hole. ? These were the teensy little ?? Spitfire rod bolts that took, I think, 18 ftlbs of torque.? Part of the reason I liked my Pauter rods was that I could use a much larger ARP rod bolt. ? Scott (B.) ? From: Fot On Behalf Of Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts via Fot Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:44 AM To: Friends Of Triumph Subject: [Fot] FW: Carrillo Rod Bolts ? Hey Triumph Friends! The info connecting rod and connecting rod fastener info below is possibly VERY useful for a lot of you so I thought I would post it for everyone. I have removed the contact at Carillo to keep them form being pestered with questions but this is direct from the head man at Carillo that is involved with rods and rod bolts daily. ? | | ? | Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ | | ?? | ? | ? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com ? | Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:38 AM To: Sean Alexander ; Brendan Alexander Cc: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts ? HI Sean, ? Happy to help. ? This may be more information than you need to make a decision. ? The stretch range can be achieved between 70-100ftlbs. However, this does not mean that you need to go to 100ftlbs to achieve the proper stretch. Once you achieve the proper stretch you don?t keep torquing the bolts. ? It is possible to have the bolts take less torque to achieve the desired stretch; this is one of the reasons there is a torque range rather than a suggested torque. This is even more true when the rods and bolts are used and have been torqued multiple times already, as the bolt under head to spot-face and the threads of the two components can polish each other differently. Since torque is only measuring the force to overcome the friction between the two parts, the more polished they are the less friction thus the less torque. ? We did a study here a few years back and saw that if we took the same rod and bolt and tightened it to the same torque number the bolt kept stretching until it was no longer polishing itself. Same for stretching the bolt repeatedly we saw the required torque dropping. In both of these tests the torque and stretch seemed to stabilize after approx. 10 torque cycles, this could vary overall as well as between different bolts which is why we prefer recommended stretch since bolt stretch actually determines how much clamp load the bolts are providing. ? With that said, when you loosened them, do they return to zero on the stretch gauge? If they do return to zero, then you can still use the bolts. If not I would replace them. ? I know some customers will just replace the bolts for peace of mind, but I do not think this is necessary if the bolts do not continue to get grow in length once released. Fyi, I would put a max of 0.001 permanent stretch from original length. ? Hope this information helps you. If you have any questions or need further assistance. Please feel free to reach out to be by email or phone. ? ? Kind regards ? | A member of Pankl Group ?????? Our email disclaimer | CP-Carrillo, Inc. 1902 McGaw Ave Irvine, CA 92614 Phone: 949-567-9000 Fax: 949-567-9010 www.cp-carrillo.com | ? ? ? ? From: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 6:21 AM To: Sean Alexander Cc: Brendan Alexander ; Richard Batchelor < Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts ? ? Meet Sean at Alexander Raing he is the fellow with the rod bolts we have conversed with, Can you and he talk and then Sean will decide if and how many bolt sets he needs. See his email info below on the stretch he is seeing. Thank you. ? | | ? | Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ | | ?? | ? | ? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com ? | ? ? From: Sean Alexander Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 3:33 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts Cc: Brendan Alexander Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts ? Mark, ? Ouch on the price ? We have two bolts that?we did not go past the recommended?max torque of 100 ft/lbs but the elongation?was .002" over max.? or total of .0095".? ?We snuck up on the torque?checking the stretch each setting until?we saw the overstretch.? ?We loosened and retorqued at the min of 70 ft/lbs and they stretched to .007" must faster/lower toruqe than previously?and faster than any of the other bolts.? ? Can you field our specific? situation with your contact or we can call Carrillo and get you out of the middle on this part of the discussion. ? What is the lead time?on 2 or 4 bolts? ? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com ? ? On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 2:47?PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts wrote: Sent you an email yesterday?? The factory guy at Carrillo says those bolts are good for 18-20 retorques. He seems to feel you don?t need to replace them till then? His exact words: These bolts can be torqued 18-20 times without issue. They are 54.53 per bolt if you want new ones though. ? | | ? | Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ | | ?? | ? | ? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com ? | ? ? From: Sean Alexander Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 2:42 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts Cc: Brendan Alexander Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts ? Hi Mark, ? Following up on the rod bolt pricing and delivery. ? ? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com ? ? On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 9:13?AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts wrote: Great pic thanks! I will see what they say!! ? | | ? | Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ | | ?? | ? | ? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com ? | ? ? From: Sean Alexander Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 8:39 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts Cc: Brendan Alexander Subject: Carrillo Rod Bolts ? Hi Mark, ? We need to replace our rod bolts. ? Part number?that came with the Rods you sold us is? ? S6-N-037-PS ? Looking forward to your reply on price and lead-time. ? ? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com ? ? On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 5:17?PM Sean Alexander wrote: Yep, not surprised.?? ? Please proceed with with the qouted lead time. ? On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 3:10 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts wrote: Got to love the current state or production!!! Carrillo needs a confirmation from you to me so I can send it back to Carrillo on these rods. Here is their story and they want to make sure you are agreeable with it: ? These are only made when ordered and cannot be cancelled for any reason Production is 12-14 weeks ? Please confirm your customer can wait. ? Lead Times Due to an overwhelming demand and work load, our lead times have gone up and cannot be guaranteed. Steel Rods are Approx. 12-14 weeks production Pistons are Approx. 10-12 weeks. More complex designs may take longer and Coatings can add 2-4 weeks depending on the coatings requested. While we will always do our best to meet our delivery dates during this time, there are times we may be late. We are implanting a required deposit for custom Pistons and Rods, please ask what deposit may be required for your order. Custom orders are not cancellable for any reason, even if we are running late on your order. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and your customers. We are doing our best and will strive to improve our deliveries as best as we can ? | | ? | Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com | | ?? | ? | ? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com ? | ? ? From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:29 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 ? Hi Mark, ? Excellent, thanks for double checking.? ? Please place an order for the set of four rods ~ CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S. ? Let me know when?you need?the check mailed or if you have another payment preference. ? Appreciate your support to the Triumph racing community. ? Are you actively?racing your car this year? ? 2022 Kastner Cup is at the Pitt International Race facility, only a 10 or 11 hour tow from Nashville. ? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com ? ? On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts wrote: Nope that is correct!! ? | | ? | Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com | | ?? | ? | ? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com ? | ? ? From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:07 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 ? Hi Mark, ? Increase is $24.84 for the set of 4?? Any chance you have a typo? in the price,? I would have?expected a larger increase considering all of the craziness. ? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com ? ? On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts wrote: Sean, ? Ok they did go up, steel costs and C19 and all that BS of course. New cost is 1187.36 for a set of 4. Last time on 2018 they were 1162.52. ? | | ? | Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com | | ?? | ? | ? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com ? | ? ? From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:41 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 ? Craig, ? Sounds good. ? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com ? ? On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:49 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts wrote: They changed pricing big surprise with C19 right?? Trying to get a new cost for you but there is no one around at so many vendors. Give me a moment. I?ll get you a number. ? | | ? | Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com | | ?? | ? | ? Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com ? | ? ? From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:06 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts Subject: Carrillo Rods For TR4 ? Hi Mark, ? Hope you have been well! ? 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URL: From sbarr at McCarty-Law.com Mon Jul 28 14:52:27 2025 From: sbarr at McCarty-Law.com (Barr, Scott) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 20:52:27 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts In-Reply-To: <1599083019.3982434.1753722046756@mail.yahoo.com> References: <53c1788c90764ff38beb44b9e7333c28@dieselperformanceparts.com> <45f5994be95248c189174af5c477ca69@dieselperformanceparts.com> <1599083019.3982434.1753722046756@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I wouldn?t kid about a thing like that. See photo attached. They neck down from 1/4? to something like 3/16ths and then the threaded portion is 1/4? again. The one in the photo found its yield point as I torqued it up on a rebuild. The info provided by Mark below would have been very useful in avoiding this failure. User failure causing bolt failure, I guess. Live and learn. If they?re now 3/8ths, that?s an improvement over the Carillo rods I have in my 1500 race motor. I like the Carillo rods, but didn?t love the little rod bolts. Scott (B.) From: Fot On Behalf Of robertten1--- via Fot Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 12:01 PM To: FOT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts Scott, I hope you were kidding about the 1/4" bolts for the Spits. Looking them up they are the same for the TR6 ... 3/8 " fine thread. My 2cents, Bob T 63 spitfire 64 spitfire autocrosser On Monday, July 28, 2025 at 12:39:27 PM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: I always had trouble with the process of determining whether the Carillo rod bolts were returning to zero stretch after the use. How do people handle that? Do you create a chart for each bolt in each location ? i.e., lower rod bolt, rod #1? And then set them in a labeled rack pending reassembly? I sometimes felt like I was getting them mixed up and could never trust that I was measuring the same bolt for the same hole. These were the teensy little ?? Spitfire rod bolts that took, I think, 18 ftlbs of torque. Part of the reason I liked my Pauter rods was that I could use a much larger ARP rod bolt. Scott (B.) From: Fot > On Behalf Of Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts via Fot Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:44 AM To: Friends Of Triumph > Subject: [Fot] FW: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hey Triumph Friends! The info connecting rod and connecting rod fastener info below is possibly VERY useful for a lot of you so I thought I would post it for everyone. I have removed the contact at Carillo to keep them form being pestered with questions but this is direct from the head man at Carillo that is involved with rods and rod bolts daily. [cid:image001.png at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:38 AM To: Sean Alexander >; Brendan Alexander > Cc: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts HI Sean, Happy to help. This may be more information than you need to make a decision. The stretch range can be achieved between 70-100ftlbs. However, this does not mean that you need to go to 100ftlbs to achieve the proper stretch. Once you achieve the proper stretch you don?t keep torquing the bolts. It is possible to have the bolts take less torque to achieve the desired stretch; this is one of the reasons there is a torque range rather than a suggested torque. This is even more true when the rods and bolts are used and have been torqued multiple times already, as the bolt under head to spot-face and the threads of the two components can polish each other differently. Since torque is only measuring the force to overcome the friction between the two parts, the more polished they are the less friction thus the less torque. We did a study here a few years back and saw that if we took the same rod and bolt and tightened it to the same torque number the bolt kept stretching until it was no longer polishing itself. Same for stretching the bolt repeatedly we saw the required torque dropping. In both of these tests the torque and stretch seemed to stabilize after approx. 10 torque cycles, this could vary overall as well as between different bolts which is why we prefer recommended stretch since bolt stretch actually determines how much clamp load the bolts are providing. With that said, when you loosened them, do they return to zero on the stretch gauge? If they do return to zero, then you can still use the bolts. If not I would replace them. I know some customers will just replace the bolts for peace of mind, but I do not think this is necessary if the bolts do not continue to get grow in length once released. Fyi, I would put a max of 0.001 permanent stretch from original length. Hope this information helps you. If you have any questions or need further assistance. Please feel free to reach out to be by email or phone. Kind regards [cid:image003.gif at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] A member of Pankl Group [cid:image004.jpg at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] [cid:image005.gif at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] [cid:image006.gif at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] Our email disclaimer CP-Carrillo, Inc. 1902 McGaw Ave Irvine, CA 92614 Phone: 949-567-9000 Fax: 949-567-9010 www.cp-carrillo.com From: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 6:21 AM To: Sean Alexander > Cc: Brendan Alexander >; Richard Batchelor < Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts Meet Sean at Alexander Raing he is the fellow with the rod bolts we have conversed with, Can you and he talk and then Sean will decide if and how many bolt sets he needs. See his email info below on the stretch he is seeing. Thank you. [cid:image001.png at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 3:33 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Mark, Ouch on the price We have two bolts that we did not go past the recommended max torque of 100 ft/lbs but the elongation was .002" over max. or total of .0095". We snuck up on the torque checking the stretch each setting until we saw the overstretch. We loosened and retorqued at the min of 70 ft/lbs and they stretched to .007" must faster/lower toruqe than previously and faster than any of the other bolts. Can you field our specific situation with your contact or we can call Carrillo and get you out of the middle on this part of the discussion. What is the lead time on 2 or 4 bolts? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 2:47?PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sent you an email yesterday?? The factory guy at Carrillo says those bolts are good for 18-20 retorques. He seems to feel you don?t need to replace them till then? His exact words: These bolts can be torqued 18-20 times without issue. They are 54.53 per bolt if you want new ones though. [cid:image001.png at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 2:42 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, Following up on the rod bolt pricing and delivery. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 9:13?AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Great pic thanks! I will see what they say!! [cid:image001.png at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ [cid:image002.png at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 8:39 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, We need to replace our rod bolts. Part number that came with the Rods you sold us is S6-N-037-PS Looking forward to your reply on price and lead-time. [cid:image008.png at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] [cid:image009.png at 01DBFFD6.510507D0] Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 5:17?PM Sean Alexander > wrote: Yep, not surprised. Please proceed with with the qouted lead time. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 3:10 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Got to love the current state or production!!! Carrillo needs a confirmation from you to me so I can send it back to Carrillo on these rods. Here is their story and they want to make sure you are agreeable with it: These are only made when ordered and cannot be cancelled for any reason Production is 12-14 weeks Please confirm your customer can wait. Lead Times Due to an overwhelming demand and work load, our lead times have gone up and cannot be guaranteed. Steel Rods are Approx. 12-14 weeks production Pistons are Approx. 10-12 weeks. More complex designs may take longer and Coatings can add 2-4 weeks depending on the coatings requested. While we will always do our best to meet our delivery dates during this time, there are times we may be late. We are implanting a required deposit for custom Pistons and Rods, please ask what deposit may be required for your order. Custom orders are not cancellable for any reason, even if we are running late on your order. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and your customers. We are doing our best and will strive to improve our deliveries as best as we can Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:29 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Excellent, thanks for double checking. Please place an order for the set of four rods ~ CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S. Let me know when you need the check mailed or if you have another payment preference. Appreciate your support to the Triumph racing community. Are you actively racing your car this year? 2022 Kastner Cup is at the Pitt International Race facility, only a 10 or 11 hour tow from Nashville. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Nope that is correct!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:07 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Increase is $24.84 for the set of 4? Any chance you have a typo in the price, I would have expected a larger increase considering all of the craziness. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sean, Ok they did go up, steel costs and C19 and all that BS of course. New cost is 1187.36 for a set of 4. Last time on 2018 they were 1162.52. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:41 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Craig, Sounds good. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com [Image removed by sender.] On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:49 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: They changed pricing big surprise with C19 right?? Trying to get a new cost for you but there is no one around at so many vendors. Give me a moment. I?ll get you a number. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:06 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Hope you have been well! 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I believe Marty Sukey has had one of these fail on track with catastrophic results. This is one of the reasons I chose Pauter rods with 5/16 bolts for the 1300 Spitfire. Or maybe it was because Chuck Gee told me to. I think Kas said something like, ?never argue with a metallurgist?? Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2025, at 2:59?PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? I wouldn?t kid about a thing like that. See photo attached. They neck down from 1/4? to something like 3/16ths and then the threaded portion is 1/4? again. The one in the photo found its yield point as I torqued it up on a rebuild. The info provided by Mark below would have been very useful in avoiding this failure. User failure causing bolt failure, I guess. Live and learn. If they?re now 3/8ths, that?s an improvement over the Carillo rods I have in my 1500 race motor. I like the Carillo rods, but didn?t love the little rod bolts. Scott (B.) From: Fot On Behalf Of robertten1--- via Fot Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 12:01 PM To: FOT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts Scott, I hope you were kidding about the 1/4" bolts for the Spits. Looking them up they are the same for the TR6 ... 3/8 " fine thread. My 2cents, Bob T 63 spitfire 64 spitfire autocrosser On Monday, July 28, 2025 at 12:39:27 PM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: I always had trouble with the process of determining whether the Carillo rod bolts were returning to zero stretch after the use. How do people handle that? Do you create a chart for each bolt in each location ? i.e., lower rod bolt, rod #1? And then set them in a labeled rack pending reassembly? I sometimes felt like I was getting them mixed up and could never trust that I was measuring the same bolt for the same hole. These were the teensy little ?? Spitfire rod bolts that took, I think, 18 ftlbs of torque. Part of the reason I liked my Pauter rods was that I could use a much larger ARP rod bolt. Scott (B.) From: Fot > On Behalf Of Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts via Fot Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:44 AM To: Friends Of Triumph > Subject: [Fot] FW: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hey Triumph Friends! The info connecting rod and connecting rod fastener info below is possibly VERY useful for a lot of you so I thought I would post it for everyone. I have removed the contact at Carillo to keep them form being pestered with questions but this is direct from the head man at Carillo that is involved with rods and rod bolts daily. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:38 AM To: Sean Alexander >; Brendan Alexander > Cc: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts HI Sean, Happy to help. This may be more information than you need to make a decision. The stretch range can be achieved between 70-100ftlbs. However, this does not mean that you need to go to 100ftlbs to achieve the proper stretch. Once you achieve the proper stretch you don?t keep torquing the bolts. It is possible to have the bolts take less torque to achieve the desired stretch; this is one of the reasons there is a torque range rather than a suggested torque. This is even more true when the rods and bolts are used and have been torqued multiple times already, as the bolt under head to spot-face and the threads of the two components can polish each other differently. Since torque is only measuring the force to overcome the friction between the two parts, the more polished they are the less friction thus the less torque. We did a study here a few years back and saw that if we took the same rod and bolt and tightened it to the same torque number the bolt kept stretching until it was no longer polishing itself. Same for stretching the bolt repeatedly we saw the required torque dropping. In both of these tests the torque and stretch seemed to stabilize after approx. 10 torque cycles, this could vary overall as well as between different bolts which is why we prefer recommended stretch since bolt stretch actually determines how much clamp load the bolts are providing. With that said, when you loosened them, do they return to zero on the stretch gauge? If they do return to zero, then you can still use the bolts. If not I would replace them. I know some customers will just replace the bolts for peace of mind, but I do not think this is necessary if the bolts do not continue to get grow in length once released. Fyi, I would put a max of 0.001 permanent stretch from original length. Hope this information helps you. If you have any questions or need further assistance. Please feel free to reach out to be by email or phone. Kind regards A member of Pankl Group Our email disclaimer CP-Carrillo, Inc. 1902 McGaw Ave Irvine, CA 92614 Phone: 949-567-9000 Fax: 949-567-9010 www.cp-carrillo.com From: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 6:21 AM To: Sean Alexander > Cc: Brendan Alexander >; Richard Batchelor < Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts Meet Sean at Alexander Raing he is the fellow with the rod bolts we have conversed with, Can you and he talk and then Sean will decide if and how many bolt sets he needs. See his email info below on the stretch he is seeing. Thank you. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 3:33 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Mark, Ouch on the price We have two bolts that we did not go past the recommended max torque of 100 ft/lbs but the elongation was .002" over max. or total of .0095". We snuck up on the torque checking the stretch each setting until we saw the overstretch. We loosened and retorqued at the min of 70 ft/lbs and they stretched to .007" must faster/lower toruqe than previously and faster than any of the other bolts. Can you field our specific situation with your contact or we can call Carrillo and get you out of the middle on this part of the discussion. What is the lead time on 2 or 4 bolts? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 2:47?PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sent you an email yesterday?? The factory guy at Carrillo says those bolts are good for 18-20 retorques. He seems to feel you don?t need to replace them till then? His exact words: These bolts can be torqued 18-20 times without issue. They are 54.53 per bolt if you want new ones though. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 2:42 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, Following up on the rod bolt pricing and delivery. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 9:13?AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Great pic thanks! I will see what they say!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 8:39 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, We need to replace our rod bolts. Part number that came with the Rods you sold us is S6-N-037-PS Looking forward to your reply on price and lead-time. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 5:17?PM Sean Alexander > wrote: Yep, not surprised. Please proceed with with the qouted lead time. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 3:10 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Got to love the current state or production!!! Carrillo needs a confirmation from you to me so I can send it back to Carrillo on these rods. Here is their story and they want to make sure you are agreeable with it: These are only made when ordered and cannot be cancelled for any reason Production is 12-14 weeks Please confirm your customer can wait. Lead Times Due to an overwhelming demand and work load, our lead times have gone up and cannot be guaranteed. Steel Rods are Approx. 12-14 weeks production Pistons are Approx. 10-12 weeks. More complex designs may take longer and Coatings can add 2-4 weeks depending on the coatings requested. While we will always do our best to meet our delivery dates during this time, there are times we may be late. We are implanting a required deposit for custom Pistons and Rods, please ask what deposit may be required for your order. Custom orders are not cancellable for any reason, even if we are running late on your order. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and your customers. We are doing our best and will strive to improve our deliveries as best as we can Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:29 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Excellent, thanks for double checking. Please place an order for the set of four rods ~ CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S. Let me know when you need the check mailed or if you have another payment preference. Appreciate your support to the Triumph racing community. Are you actively racing your car this year? 2022 Kastner Cup is at the Pitt International Race facility, only a 10 or 11 hour tow from Nashville. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Nope that is correct!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:07 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Increase is $24.84 for the set of 4? Any chance you have a typo in the price, I would have expected a larger increase considering all of the craziness. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sean, Ok they did go up, steel costs and C19 and all that BS of course. New cost is 1187.36 for a set of 4. Last time on 2018 they were 1162.52. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:41 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Craig, Sounds good. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:49 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: They changed pricing big surprise with C19 right?? Trying to get a new cost for you but there is no one around at so many vendors. Give me a moment. I?ll get you a number. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:06 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Hope you have been well! Looking for current pricing for the same Carrillo four rod set you sold us in 2018 (reference your invoice 382923) CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com <20250728_154231.jpg> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vintageclassicsus at outlook.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trmarty at hotmail.com Mon Jul 28 18:28:26 2025 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 00:28:26 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yup, back in 2018 I believe, I installed new ones during the off season (bolts) "just to be safe". Torqued via stretch method. Done blowed up spectacularly at the Glen after about 5 laps. Pretty much everything was mangled but when I started looking at the pieces it appeared to me that rod bolt failure "might" have been the cause. I switched to Pouters with the larger bolts and, knock on wood.... aint blowed another one up since. Marty ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Brad Eells via Fot Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 6:25 PM To: Scott Barr Cc: Triumph FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts I believe Marty Sukey has had one of these fail on track with catastrophic results. This is one of the reasons I chose Pauter rods with 5/16 bolts for the 1300 Spitfire. Or maybe it was because Chuck Gee told me to. I think Kas said something like, ?never argue with a metallurgist?? Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2025, at 2:59?PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? I wouldn?t kid about a thing like that. See photo attached. They neck down from 1/4? to something like 3/16ths and then the threaded portion is 1/4? again. The one in the photo found its yield point as I torqued it up on a rebuild. The info provided by Mark below would have been very useful in avoiding this failure. User failure causing bolt failure, I guess. Live and learn. If they?re now 3/8ths, that?s an improvement over the Carillo rods I have in my 1500 race motor. I like the Carillo rods, but didn?t love the little rod bolts. Scott (B.) From: Fot On Behalf Of robertten1--- via Fot Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 12:01 PM To: FOT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts Scott, I hope you were kidding about the 1/4" bolts for the Spits. Looking them up they are the same for the TR6 ... 3/8 " fine thread. My 2cents, Bob T 63 spitfire 64 spitfire autocrosser On Monday, July 28, 2025 at 12:39:27 PM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: I always had trouble with the process of determining whether the Carillo rod bolts were returning to zero stretch after the use. How do people handle that? Do you create a chart for each bolt in each location ? i.e., lower rod bolt, rod #1? And then set them in a labeled rack pending reassembly? I sometimes felt like I was getting them mixed up and could never trust that I was measuring the same bolt for the same hole. These were the teensy little ?? Spitfire rod bolts that took, I think, 18 ftlbs of torque. Part of the reason I liked my Pauter rods was that I could use a much larger ARP rod bolt. Scott (B.) From: Fot > On Behalf Of Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts via Fot Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:44 AM To: Friends Of Triumph > Subject: [Fot] FW: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hey Triumph Friends! The info connecting rod and connecting rod fastener info below is possibly VERY useful for a lot of you so I thought I would post it for everyone. I have removed the contact at Carillo to keep them form being pestered with questions but this is direct from the head man at Carillo that is involved with rods and rod bolts daily. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:38 AM To: Sean Alexander >; Brendan Alexander > Cc: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts HI Sean, Happy to help. This may be more information than you need to make a decision. The stretch range can be achieved between 70-100ftlbs. However, this does not mean that you need to go to 100ftlbs to achieve the proper stretch. Once you achieve the proper stretch you don?t keep torquing the bolts. It is possible to have the bolts take less torque to achieve the desired stretch; this is one of the reasons there is a torque range rather than a suggested torque. This is even more true when the rods and bolts are used and have been torqued multiple times already, as the bolt under head to spot-face and the threads of the two components can polish each other differently. Since torque is only measuring the force to overcome the friction between the two parts, the more polished they are the less friction thus the less torque. We did a study here a few years back and saw that if we took the same rod and bolt and tightened it to the same torque number the bolt kept stretching until it was no longer polishing itself. Same for stretching the bolt repeatedly we saw the required torque dropping. In both of these tests the torque and stretch seemed to stabilize after approx. 10 torque cycles, this could vary overall as well as between different bolts which is why we prefer recommended stretch since bolt stretch actually determines how much clamp load the bolts are providing. With that said, when you loosened them, do they return to zero on the stretch gauge? If they do return to zero, then you can still use the bolts. If not I would replace them. I know some customers will just replace the bolts for peace of mind, but I do not think this is necessary if the bolts do not continue to get grow in length once released. Fyi, I would put a max of 0.001 permanent stretch from original length. Hope this information helps you. If you have any questions or need further assistance. Please feel free to reach out to be by email or phone. Kind regards A member of Pankl Group Our email disclaimer CP-Carrillo, Inc. 1902 McGaw Ave Irvine, CA 92614 Phone: 949-567-9000 Fax: 949-567-9010 www.cp-carrillo.com From: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 6:21 AM To: Sean Alexander > Cc: Brendan Alexander >; Richard Batchelor < Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts Meet Sean at Alexander Raing he is the fellow with the rod bolts we have conversed with, Can you and he talk and then Sean will decide if and how many bolt sets he needs. See his email info below on the stretch he is seeing. Thank you. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 3:33 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Mark, Ouch on the price We have two bolts that we did not go past the recommended max torque of 100 ft/lbs but the elongation was .002" over max. or total of .0095". We snuck up on the torque checking the stretch each setting until we saw the overstretch. We loosened and retorqued at the min of 70 ft/lbs and they stretched to .007" must faster/lower toruqe than previously and faster than any of the other bolts. Can you field our specific situation with your contact or we can call Carrillo and get you out of the middle on this part of the discussion. What is the lead time on 2 or 4 bolts? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 2:47?PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sent you an email yesterday?? The factory guy at Carrillo says those bolts are good for 18-20 retorques. He seems to feel you don?t need to replace them till then? His exact words: These bolts can be torqued 18-20 times without issue. They are 54.53 per bolt if you want new ones though. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 2:42 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, Following up on the rod bolt pricing and delivery. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 9:13?AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Great pic thanks! I will see what they say!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 8:39 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, We need to replace our rod bolts. Part number that came with the Rods you sold us is S6-N-037-PS Looking forward to your reply on price and lead-time. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 5:17?PM Sean Alexander > wrote: Yep, not surprised. Please proceed with with the qouted lead time. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 3:10 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Got to love the current state or production!!! Carrillo needs a confirmation from you to me so I can send it back to Carrillo on these rods. Here is their story and they want to make sure you are agreeable with it: These are only made when ordered and cannot be cancelled for any reason Production is 12-14 weeks Please confirm your customer can wait. Lead Times Due to an overwhelming demand and work load, our lead times have gone up and cannot be guaranteed. Steel Rods are Approx. 12-14 weeks production Pistons are Approx. 10-12 weeks. More complex designs may take longer and Coatings can add 2-4 weeks depending on the coatings requested. While we will always do our best to meet our delivery dates during this time, there are times we may be late. We are implanting a required deposit for custom Pistons and Rods, please ask what deposit may be required for your order. Custom orders are not cancellable for any reason, even if we are running late on your order. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and your customers. We are doing our best and will strive to improve our deliveries as best as we can Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:29 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Excellent, thanks for double checking. Please place an order for the set of four rods ~ CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S. Let me know when you need the check mailed or if you have another payment preference. Appreciate your support to the Triumph racing community. Are you actively racing your car this year? 2022 Kastner Cup is at the Pitt International Race facility, only a 10 or 11 hour tow from Nashville. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Nope that is correct!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:07 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Increase is $24.84 for the set of 4? Any chance you have a typo in the price, I would have expected a larger increase considering all of the craziness. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sean, Ok they did go up, steel costs and C19 and all that BS of course. New cost is 1187.36 for a set of 4. Last time on 2018 they were 1162.52. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:41 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Craig, Sounds good. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:49 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: They changed pricing big surprise with C19 right?? Trying to get a new cost for you but there is no one around at so many vendors. Give me a moment. I?ll get you a number. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:06 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Hope you have been well! Looking for current pricing for the same Carrillo four rod set you sold us in 2018 (reference your invoice 382923) CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com <20250728_154231.jpg> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From trmarty at hotmail.com Mon Jul 28 19:03:03 2025 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 01:03:03 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FWIW, I log each bolt length and position. If everything is still running smooth, I do a bottom end tear down about every 3 seasons and check bearing clearances and replace rod bolts. Marty ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of marty sukey via Fot Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 8:28 PM To: Scott Barr ; Brad Eells Cc: Triumph FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts Yup, back in 2018 I believe, I installed new ones during the off season (bolts) "just to be safe". Torqued via stretch method. Done blowed up spectacularly at the Glen after about 5 laps. Pretty much everything was mangled but when I started looking at the pieces it appeared to me that rod bolt failure "might" have been the cause. I switched to Pouters with the larger bolts and, knock on wood.... aint blowed another one up since. Marty ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Brad Eells via Fot Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 6:25 PM To: Scott Barr Cc: Triumph FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts I believe Marty Sukey has had one of these fail on track with catastrophic results. This is one of the reasons I chose Pauter rods with 5/16 bolts for the 1300 Spitfire. Or maybe it was because Chuck Gee told me to. I think Kas said something like, ?never argue with a metallurgist?? Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2025, at 2:59?PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? I wouldn?t kid about a thing like that. See photo attached. They neck down from 1/4? to something like 3/16ths and then the threaded portion is 1/4? again. The one in the photo found its yield point as I torqued it up on a rebuild. The info provided by Mark below would have been very useful in avoiding this failure. User failure causing bolt failure, I guess. Live and learn. If they?re now 3/8ths, that?s an improvement over the Carillo rods I have in my 1500 race motor. I like the Carillo rods, but didn?t love the little rod bolts. Scott (B.) From: Fot On Behalf Of robertten1--- via Fot Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 12:01 PM To: FOT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts Scott, I hope you were kidding about the 1/4" bolts for the Spits. Looking them up they are the same for the TR6 ... 3/8 " fine thread. My 2cents, Bob T 63 spitfire 64 spitfire autocrosser On Monday, July 28, 2025 at 12:39:27 PM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: I always had trouble with the process of determining whether the Carillo rod bolts were returning to zero stretch after the use. How do people handle that? Do you create a chart for each bolt in each location ? i.e., lower rod bolt, rod #1? And then set them in a labeled rack pending reassembly? I sometimes felt like I was getting them mixed up and could never trust that I was measuring the same bolt for the same hole. These were the teensy little ?? Spitfire rod bolts that took, I think, 18 ftlbs of torque. Part of the reason I liked my Pauter rods was that I could use a much larger ARP rod bolt. Scott (B.) From: Fot > On Behalf Of Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts via Fot Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:44 AM To: Friends Of Triumph > Subject: [Fot] FW: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hey Triumph Friends! The info connecting rod and connecting rod fastener info below is possibly VERY useful for a lot of you so I thought I would post it for everyone. I have removed the contact at Carillo to keep them form being pestered with questions but this is direct from the head man at Carillo that is involved with rods and rod bolts daily. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:38 AM To: Sean Alexander >; Brendan Alexander > Cc: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts HI Sean, Happy to help. This may be more information than you need to make a decision. The stretch range can be achieved between 70-100ftlbs. However, this does not mean that you need to go to 100ftlbs to achieve the proper stretch. Once you achieve the proper stretch you don?t keep torquing the bolts. It is possible to have the bolts take less torque to achieve the desired stretch; this is one of the reasons there is a torque range rather than a suggested torque. This is even more true when the rods and bolts are used and have been torqued multiple times already, as the bolt under head to spot-face and the threads of the two components can polish each other differently. Since torque is only measuring the force to overcome the friction between the two parts, the more polished they are the less friction thus the less torque. We did a study here a few years back and saw that if we took the same rod and bolt and tightened it to the same torque number the bolt kept stretching until it was no longer polishing itself. Same for stretching the bolt repeatedly we saw the required torque dropping. In both of these tests the torque and stretch seemed to stabilize after approx. 10 torque cycles, this could vary overall as well as between different bolts which is why we prefer recommended stretch since bolt stretch actually determines how much clamp load the bolts are providing. With that said, when you loosened them, do they return to zero on the stretch gauge? If they do return to zero, then you can still use the bolts. If not I would replace them. I know some customers will just replace the bolts for peace of mind, but I do not think this is necessary if the bolts do not continue to get grow in length once released. Fyi, I would put a max of 0.001 permanent stretch from original length. Hope this information helps you. If you have any questions or need further assistance. Please feel free to reach out to be by email or phone. Kind regards A member of Pankl Group Our email disclaimer CP-Carrillo, Inc. 1902 McGaw Ave Irvine, CA 92614 Phone: 949-567-9000 Fax: 949-567-9010 www.cp-carrillo.com From: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 6:21 AM To: Sean Alexander > Cc: Brendan Alexander >; Richard Batchelor < Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts Meet Sean at Alexander Raing he is the fellow with the rod bolts we have conversed with, Can you and he talk and then Sean will decide if and how many bolt sets he needs. See his email info below on the stretch he is seeing. Thank you. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 3:33 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Mark, Ouch on the price We have two bolts that we did not go past the recommended max torque of 100 ft/lbs but the elongation was .002" over max. or total of .0095". We snuck up on the torque checking the stretch each setting until we saw the overstretch. We loosened and retorqued at the min of 70 ft/lbs and they stretched to .007" must faster/lower toruqe than previously and faster than any of the other bolts. Can you field our specific situation with your contact or we can call Carrillo and get you out of the middle on this part of the discussion. What is the lead time on 2 or 4 bolts? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 2:47?PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sent you an email yesterday?? The factory guy at Carrillo says those bolts are good for 18-20 retorques. He seems to feel you don?t need to replace them till then? His exact words: These bolts can be torqued 18-20 times without issue. They are 54.53 per bolt if you want new ones though. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 2:42 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, Following up on the rod bolt pricing and delivery. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 9:13?AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Great pic thanks! I will see what they say!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 8:39 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, We need to replace our rod bolts. Part number that came with the Rods you sold us is S6-N-037-PS Looking forward to your reply on price and lead-time. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 5:17?PM Sean Alexander > wrote: Yep, not surprised. Please proceed with with the qouted lead time. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 3:10 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Got to love the current state or production!!! Carrillo needs a confirmation from you to me so I can send it back to Carrillo on these rods. Here is their story and they want to make sure you are agreeable with it: These are only made when ordered and cannot be cancelled for any reason Production is 12-14 weeks Please confirm your customer can wait. Lead Times Due to an overwhelming demand and work load, our lead times have gone up and cannot be guaranteed. Steel Rods are Approx. 12-14 weeks production Pistons are Approx. 10-12 weeks. More complex designs may take longer and Coatings can add 2-4 weeks depending on the coatings requested. While we will always do our best to meet our delivery dates during this time, there are times we may be late. We are implanting a required deposit for custom Pistons and Rods, please ask what deposit may be required for your order. Custom orders are not cancellable for any reason, even if we are running late on your order. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and your customers. We are doing our best and will strive to improve our deliveries as best as we can Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:29 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Excellent, thanks for double checking. Please place an order for the set of four rods ~ CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S. Let me know when you need the check mailed or if you have another payment preference. Appreciate your support to the Triumph racing community. Are you actively racing your car this year? 2022 Kastner Cup is at the Pitt International Race facility, only a 10 or 11 hour tow from Nashville. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Nope that is correct!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:07 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Increase is $24.84 for the set of 4? Any chance you have a typo in the price, I would have expected a larger increase considering all of the craziness. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sean, Ok they did go up, steel costs and C19 and all that BS of course. New cost is 1187.36 for a set of 4. Last time on 2018 they were 1162.52. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:41 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Craig, Sounds good. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:49 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: They changed pricing big surprise with C19 right?? Trying to get a new cost for you but there is no one around at so many vendors. Give me a moment. I?ll get you a number. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:06 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Hope you have been well! Looking for current pricing for the same Carrillo four rod set you sold us in 2018 (reference your invoice 382923) CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com <20250728_154231.jpg> _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sjanzen at me.com Mon Jul 28 20:17:15 2025 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 22:17:15 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yup, making me a bit nervous, as I have two engines with Carillo rods and bolts. That said, I?ve been running them for, I don?t know, 8-10 years. I do replace the bolts en masse, when I?m rebuilding and one or more don?t pass the test. That said, I certainly get a couple of cycles out of them. The GT6 generally runs to 7,000 rpm. I once determined at Summit Point that it gets shifted at, or run to redline about seven times a lap, so figure redline easily 350 times a weekend. Needs rod bearings changed every other year, at least, with 4-5 weekends a year. The only time I messed a bolt up tightening it was early on when I used ARP lube because I couldn?t find the Carillo tube. Called up Carillo, they said ?got to use our lube, theirs is more slippery so you will overtighten if you use the wrong lube?. That was when I was initially tightening with a torque wrench. Now I just use the stretch gauge and a long handled box end wrench, so the gauge is in place as I tighten the bolt. On Jul 28, 2025, at 8:15?PM, Tony Garmey via Fot wrote: Interesting thread ! The 250 k also is running the 1/4 Carrillo rod bolts . The rods are custom made to original design where the rod split is at 45? Degrees Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 28, 2025, at 4:18?PM, Brad Eells via Fot > wrote: > > ? I believe Marty Sukey has had one of these fail on track with catastrophic results. > > This is one of the reasons I chose Pauter rods with 5/16 bolts for the 1300 Spitfire. > > Or maybe it was because Chuck Gee told me to. I think Kas said something like, ?never argue with a metallurgist?? > > Brad Eells > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 28, 2025, at 2:59?PM, Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: >> >> ? >> I wouldn?t kid about a thing like that. See photo attached. They neck down from 1/4? to something like 3/16ths and then the threaded portion is 1/4? again. The one in the photo found its yield point as I torqued it up on a rebuild. The info provided by Mark below would have been very useful in avoiding this failure. User failure causing bolt failure, I guess. Live and learn. >> >> If they?re now 3/8ths, that?s an improvement over the Carillo rods I have in my 1500 race motor. I like the Carillo rods, but didn?t love the little rod bolts. >> >> Scott (B.) >> >> From: Fot > On Behalf Of robertten1--- via Fot >> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 12:01 PM >> To: FOT Triumph > >> Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts >> >> Scott, >> >> I hope you were kidding about the 1/4" bolts for the Spits. Looking them up they are the same for the TR6 ... 3/8 " fine thread. >> >> My 2cents, >> Bob T >> 63 spitfire >> 64 spitfire autocrosser >> >> On Monday, July 28, 2025 at 12:39:27 PM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: >> >> >> I always had trouble with the process of determining whether the Carillo rod bolts were returning to zero stretch after the use. >> >> >> >> How do people handle that? Do you create a chart for each bolt in each location ? i.e., lower rod bolt, rod #1? And then set them in a labeled rack pending reassembly? >> >> >> >> I sometimes felt like I was getting them mixed up and could never trust that I was measuring the same bolt for the same hole. >> >> >> >> These were the teensy little ?? Spitfire rod bolts that took, I think, 18 ftlbs of torque. Part of the reason I liked my Pauter rods was that I could use a much larger ARP rod bolt. >> >> >> >> Scott (B.) >> >> >> >> From: Fot > On Behalf Of Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts via Fot >> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:44 AM >> To: Friends Of Triumph > >> Subject: [Fot] FW: Carrillo Rod Bolts >> >> >> >> Hey Triumph Friends! >> >> The info connecting rod and connecting rod fastener info below is possibly VERY useful for a lot of you so I thought I would post it for everyone. I have removed the contact at Carillo to keep them form being pestered with questions but this is direct from the head man at Carillo that is involved with rods and rod bolts daily. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> MARK CRAIG >> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. >> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 >> https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Phone: 615-834-0066 >> Fax: 615-834-9923 >> Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com >> >> >> >> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:38 AM >> To: Sean Alexander >; Brendan Alexander > >> Cc: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > >> Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts >> >> >> >> HI Sean, >> >> >> >> Happy to help. >> >> >> >> This may be more information than you need to make a decision. >> >> >> >> The stretch range can be achieved between 70-100ftlbs. >> >> However, this does not mean that you need to go to 100ftlbs to achieve the proper stretch. >> >> Once you achieve the proper stretch you don?t keep torquing the bolts. >> >> >> >> It is possible to have the bolts take less torque to achieve the desired stretch; this is one of the reasons there is a torque range rather than a suggested torque. >> >> This is even more true when the rods and bolts are used and have been torqued multiple times already, as the bolt under head to spot-face and the threads of the two components can polish each other differently. Since torque is only measuring the force to overcome the friction between the two parts, the more polished they are the less friction thus the less torque. >> >> >> >> We did a study here a few years back and saw that if we took the same rod and bolt and tightened it to the same torque number the bolt kept stretching until it was no longer polishing itself. Same for stretching the bolt repeatedly we saw the required torque dropping. In both of these tests the torque and stretch seemed to stabilize after approx. 10 torque cycles, this could vary overall as well as between different bolts which is why we prefer recommended stretch since bolt stretch actually determines how much clamp load the bolts are providing. >> >> >> >> With that said, when you loosened them, do they return to zero on the stretch gauge? >> >> If they do return to zero, then you can still use the bolts. If not I would replace them. >> >> >> >> I know some customers will just replace the bolts for peace of mind, but I do not think this is necessary if the bolts do not continue to get grow in length once released. >> >> Fyi, I would put a max of 0.001 permanent stretch from original length. >> >> >> >> Hope this information helps you. >> >> If you have any questions or need further assistance. Please feel free to reach out to be by email or phone. >> >> >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> >> >> >> A member of Pankl Group >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Our email disclaimer >> >> >> >> CP-Carrillo, Inc. >> 1902 McGaw Ave >> Irvine, CA 92614 >> Phone: 949-567-9000 >> Fax: 949-567-9010 >> www.cp-carrillo.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > >> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 6:21 AM >> To: Sean Alexander > >> Cc: Brendan Alexander >; Richard Batchelor < >> Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts >> >> >> >> >> >> Meet Sean at Alexander Raing he is the fellow with the rod bolts we have conversed with, Can you and he talk and then Sean will decide if and how many bolt sets he needs. See his email info below on the stretch he is seeing. >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> MARK CRAIG >> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. >> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 >> https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Phone: 615-834-0066 >> Fax: 615-834-9923 >> Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Sean Alexander > >> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 3:33 PM >> To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > >> Cc: Brendan Alexander > >> Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts >> >> >> >> Mark, >> >> >> >> Ouch on the price >> >> >> >> We have two bolts that we did not go past the recommended max torque of 100 ft/lbs but the elongation was .002" over max. or total of .0095". We snuck up on the torque checking the stretch each setting until we saw the overstretch. We loosened and retorqued at the min of 70 ft/lbs and they stretched to .007" must faster/lower toruqe than previously and faster than any of the other bolts. >> >> >> >> Can you field our specific situation with your contact or we can call Carrillo and get you out of the middle on this part of the discussion. >> >> >> >> What is the lead time on 2 or 4 bolts? >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Sean Alexander >> >> ARE >> >> the-vintage-racer.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 2:47?PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: >> >> Sent you an email yesterday?? The factory guy at Carrillo says those bolts are good for 18-20 retorques. He seems to feel you don?t need to replace them till then? >> >> His exact words: >> >> These bolts can be torqued 18-20 times without issue. >> >> They are 54.53 per bolt if you want new ones though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> MARK CRAIG >> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. >> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 >> https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Phone: 615-834-0066 >> Fax: 615-834-9923 >> Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Sean Alexander > >> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 2:42 PM >> To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > >> Cc: Brendan Alexander > >> Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts >> >> >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> >> >> Following up on the rod bolt pricing and delivery. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Sean Alexander >> >> ARE >> >> the-vintage-racer.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 9:13?AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: >> >> Great pic thanks! >> >> I will see what they say!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> MARK CRAIG >> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. >> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 >> https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Phone: 615-834-0066 >> Fax: 615-834-9923 >> Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Sean Alexander > >> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 8:39 AM >> To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > >> Cc: Brendan Alexander > >> Subject: Carrillo Rod Bolts >> >> >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> >> >> We need to replace our rod bolts. >> >> >> >> Part number that came with the Rods you sold us is >> >> >> >> S6-N-037-PS >> >> >> >> Looking forward to your reply on price and lead-time. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Sean Alexander >> >> ARE >> >> the-vintage-racer.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 5:17?PM Sean Alexander > wrote: >> >> Yep, not surprised. >> >> >> >> Please proceed with with the qouted lead time. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 3:10 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: >> >> Got to love the current state or production!!! >> >> Carrillo needs a confirmation from you to me so I can send it back to Carrillo on these rods. Here is their story and they want to make sure you are agreeable with it: >> >> >> >> These are only made when ordered and cannot be cancelled for any reason >> >> Production is 12-14 weeks >> >> >> >> Please confirm your customer can wait. >> >> >> >> Lead Times >> >> Due to an overwhelming demand and work load, our lead times have gone up and cannot be guaranteed. >> >> Steel Rods are Approx. 12-14 weeks production >> >> Pistons are Approx. 10-12 weeks. More complex designs may take longer and Coatings can add 2-4 weeks depending on the coatings requested. >> >> While we will always do our best to meet our delivery dates during this time, there are times we may be late. >> >> We are implanting a required deposit for custom Pistons and Rods, please ask what deposit may be required for your order. >> >> Custom orders are not cancellable for any reason, even if we are running late on your order. >> >> We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and your customers. >> >> We are doing our best and will strive to improve our deliveries as best as we can >> >> >> >> ? >> MARK CRAIG >> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. >> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 >> www.dieselperformanceparts.com >> ?? >> >> >> >> >> Phone: 615-834-0066 >> Fax: 615-834-9923 >> Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com ] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:29 PM >> To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > >> Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 >> >> >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> >> >> Excellent, thanks for double checking. >> >> >> >> Please place an order for the set of four rods ~ CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S. >> >> >> >> Let me know when you need the check mailed or if you have another payment preference. >> >> >> >> Appreciate your support to the Triumph racing community. >> >> >> >> Are you actively racing your car this year? >> >> >> >> 2022 Kastner Cup is at the Pitt International Race facility, only a 10 or 11 hour tow from Nashville. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Sean Alexander >> >> ARE >> >> the-vintage-racer.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: >> >> Nope that is correct!! >> >> >> >> >> >> MARK CRAIG >> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. >> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 >> www.dieselperformanceparts.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Phone: 615-834-0066 >> Fax: 615-834-9923 >> Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com ] >> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:07 PM >> To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > >> Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 >> >> >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> >> >> Increase is $24.84 for the set of 4? Any chance you have a typo in the price, I would have expected a larger increase considering all of the craziness. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Sean Alexander >> >> ARE >> >> the-vintage-racer.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: >> >> Sean, >> >> >> >> Ok they did go up, steel costs and C19 and all that BS of course. >> >> New cost is 1187.36 for a set of 4. Last time on 2018 they were 1162.52. >> >> >> >> >> >> MARK CRAIG >> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. >> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 >> www.dieselperformanceparts.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Phone: 615-834-0066 >> Fax: 615-834-9923 >> Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com ] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:41 AM >> To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > >> Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 >> >> >> >> Craig, >> >> >> >> Sounds good. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Sean Alexander >> >> ARE >> >> the-vintage-racer.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:49 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: >> >> They changed pricing big surprise with C19 right?? >> >> Trying to get a new cost for you but there is no one around at so many vendors. Give me a moment. I?ll get you a number. >> >> >> >> >> >> MARK CRAIG >> Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. >> 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 >> www.dieselperformanceparts.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Phone: 615-834-0066 >> Fax: 615-834-9923 >> Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com ] >> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:06 AM >> To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > >> Subject: Carrillo Rods For TR4 >> >> >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> >> >> Hope you have been well! >> >> >> >> Looking for current pricing for the same Carrillo four rod set you sold us in 2018 (reference your invoice 382923) CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Sean Alexander >> >> ARE >> >> the-vintage-racer.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/robertten1 at aol.com >> >> >> <20250728_154231.jpg> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot at autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tr4abrad at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vintageclassicsus at outlook.com > > _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen at me.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintageclassicsus at outlook.com Tue Jul 29 18:52:39 2025 From: vintageclassicsus at outlook.com (Tony Garmey) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 00:52:39 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have some ? lightly ? used 1/4 inch rod bolts going cheap -lol . Can deliver to lime rock ! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2025, at 5:15?PM, Tony Garmey wrote: ? Interesting thread ! The 250 k also is running the 1/4 Carrillo rod bolts . The rods are custom made to original design where the rod split is at 45? Degrees Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2025, at 4:18?PM, Brad Eells via Fot wrote: ? I believe Marty Sukey has had one of these fail on track with catastrophic results. This is one of the reasons I chose Pauter rods with 5/16 bolts for the 1300 Spitfire. Or maybe it was because Chuck Gee told me to. I think Kas said something like, ?never argue with a metallurgist?? Brad Eells Sent from my iPhone On Jul 28, 2025, at 2:59?PM, Barr, Scott via Fot wrote: ? I wouldn?t kid about a thing like that. See photo attached. They neck down from 1/4? to something like 3/16ths and then the threaded portion is 1/4? again. The one in the photo found its yield point as I torqued it up on a rebuild. The info provided by Mark below would have been very useful in avoiding this failure. User failure causing bolt failure, I guess. Live and learn. If they?re now 3/8ths, that?s an improvement over the Carillo rods I have in my 1500 race motor. I like the Carillo rods, but didn?t love the little rod bolts. Scott (B.) From: Fot On Behalf Of robertten1--- via Fot Sent: Monday, July 28, 2025 12:01 PM To: FOT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Carrillo Rod Bolts Scott, I hope you were kidding about the 1/4" bolts for the Spits. Looking them up they are the same for the TR6 ... 3/8 " fine thread. My 2cents, Bob T 63 spitfire 64 spitfire autocrosser On Monday, July 28, 2025 at 12:39:27 PM EDT, Barr, Scott via Fot > wrote: I always had trouble with the process of determining whether the Carillo rod bolts were returning to zero stretch after the use. How do people handle that? Do you create a chart for each bolt in each location ? i.e., lower rod bolt, rod #1? And then set them in a labeled rack pending reassembly? I sometimes felt like I was getting them mixed up and could never trust that I was measuring the same bolt for the same hole. These were the teensy little ?? Spitfire rod bolts that took, I think, 18 ftlbs of torque. Part of the reason I liked my Pauter rods was that I could use a much larger ARP rod bolt. Scott (B.) From: Fot > On Behalf Of Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts via Fot Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:44 AM To: Friends Of Triumph > Subject: [Fot] FW: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hey Triumph Friends! The info connecting rod and connecting rod fastener info below is possibly VERY useful for a lot of you so I thought I would post it for everyone. I have removed the contact at Carillo to keep them form being pestered with questions but this is direct from the head man at Carillo that is involved with rods and rod bolts daily. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 10:38 AM To: Sean Alexander >; Brendan Alexander > Cc: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts HI Sean, Happy to help. This may be more information than you need to make a decision. The stretch range can be achieved between 70-100ftlbs. However, this does not mean that you need to go to 100ftlbs to achieve the proper stretch. Once you achieve the proper stretch you don?t keep torquing the bolts. It is possible to have the bolts take less torque to achieve the desired stretch; this is one of the reasons there is a torque range rather than a suggested torque. This is even more true when the rods and bolts are used and have been torqued multiple times already, as the bolt under head to spot-face and the threads of the two components can polish each other differently. Since torque is only measuring the force to overcome the friction between the two parts, the more polished they are the less friction thus the less torque. We did a study here a few years back and saw that if we took the same rod and bolt and tightened it to the same torque number the bolt kept stretching until it was no longer polishing itself. Same for stretching the bolt repeatedly we saw the required torque dropping. In both of these tests the torque and stretch seemed to stabilize after approx. 10 torque cycles, this could vary overall as well as between different bolts which is why we prefer recommended stretch since bolt stretch actually determines how much clamp load the bolts are providing. With that said, when you loosened them, do they return to zero on the stretch gauge? If they do return to zero, then you can still use the bolts. If not I would replace them. I know some customers will just replace the bolts for peace of mind, but I do not think this is necessary if the bolts do not continue to get grow in length once released. Fyi, I would put a max of 0.001 permanent stretch from original length. Hope this information helps you. If you have any questions or need further assistance. Please feel free to reach out to be by email or phone. Kind regards A member of Pankl Group Our email disclaimer CP-Carrillo, Inc. 1902 McGaw Ave Irvine, CA 92614 Phone: 949-567-9000 Fax: 949-567-9010 www.cp-carrillo.com From: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2025 6:21 AM To: Sean Alexander > Cc: Brendan Alexander >; Richard Batchelor < Subject: RE: Carrillo Rod Bolts Meet Sean at Alexander Raing he is the fellow with the rod bolts we have conversed with, Can you and he talk and then Sean will decide if and how many bolt sets he needs. See his email info below on the stretch he is seeing. Thank you. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 3:33 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Mark, Ouch on the price We have two bolts that we did not go past the recommended max torque of 100 ft/lbs but the elongation was .002" over max. or total of .0095". We snuck up on the torque checking the stretch each setting until we saw the overstretch. We loosened and retorqued at the min of 70 ft/lbs and they stretched to .007" must faster/lower toruqe than previously and faster than any of the other bolts. Can you field our specific situation with your contact or we can call Carrillo and get you out of the middle on this part of the discussion. What is the lead time on 2 or 4 bolts? Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 2:47?PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sent you an email yesterday?? The factory guy at Carrillo says those bolts are good for 18-20 retorques. He seems to feel you don?t need to replace them till then? His exact words: These bolts can be torqued 18-20 times without issue. They are 54.53 per bolt if you want new ones though. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2025 2:42 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, Following up on the rod bolt pricing and delivery. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 9:13?AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Great pic thanks! I will see what they say!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 https://www.dieselperformanceparts.com/ Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2025 8:39 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Cc: Brendan Alexander > Subject: Carrillo Rod Bolts Hi Mark, We need to replace our rod bolts. Part number that came with the Rods you sold us is S6-N-037-PS Looking forward to your reply on price and lead-time. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 5:17?PM Sean Alexander > wrote: Yep, not surprised. Please proceed with with the qouted lead time. On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, 3:10 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Got to love the current state or production!!! Carrillo needs a confirmation from you to me so I can send it back to Carrillo on these rods. Here is their story and they want to make sure you are agreeable with it: These are only made when ordered and cannot be cancelled for any reason Production is 12-14 weeks Please confirm your customer can wait. Lead Times Due to an overwhelming demand and work load, our lead times have gone up and cannot be guaranteed. Steel Rods are Approx. 12-14 weeks production Pistons are Approx. 10-12 weeks. More complex designs may take longer and Coatings can add 2-4 weeks depending on the coatings requested. While we will always do our best to meet our delivery dates during this time, there are times we may be late. We are implanting a required deposit for custom Pistons and Rods, please ask what deposit may be required for your order. Custom orders are not cancellable for any reason, even if we are running late on your order. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and your customers. We are doing our best and will strive to improve our deliveries as best as we can Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:29 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Excellent, thanks for double checking. Please place an order for the set of four rods ~ CAR-TM-TR4-66250-S. Let me know when you need the check mailed or if you have another payment preference. Appreciate your support to the Triumph racing community. Are you actively racing your car this year? 2022 Kastner Cup is at the Pitt International Race facility, only a 10 or 11 hour tow from Nashville. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:14 PM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Nope that is correct!! Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:07 PM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Increase is $24.84 for the set of 4? Any chance you have a typo in the price, I would have expected a larger increase considering all of the craziness. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: Sean, Ok they did go up, steel costs and C19 and all that BS of course. New cost is 1187.36 for a set of 4. Last time on 2018 they were 1162.52. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 11:41 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Re: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Craig, Sounds good. Regards, Sean Alexander ARE the-vintage-racer.com On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:49 AM Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > wrote: They changed pricing big surprise with C19 right?? Trying to get a new cost for you but there is no one around at so many vendors. Give me a moment. I?ll get you a number. Mark Craig Diesel Performance Parts, Inc. 411 Allied Drive, Nashville, TN 37211 www.dieselperformanceparts.com Phone: 615-834-0066 Fax: 615-834-9923 Email: mark at dieselperformanceparts.com From: Sean Alexander [mailto:alex3rail at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:06 AM To: Mark Craig - Diesel Performance Parts > Subject: Carrillo Rods For TR4 Hi Mark, Hope you have been well! 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URL: From yellow04 at tr4racer.com Thu Jul 31 11:36:07 2025 From: yellow04 at tr4racer.com (yellow04) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 09:36:07 -0800 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup News Message-ID: <70caa35612c784e281af2147cf113c06@tr4racer.com> We are one month away from our feature race of the season! Also, today is the last day to register at the regular price, save 100 bucks by getting your entry in today! Also, I have received a couple of questions about the email many of us have received from SVRA regarding a deal they are offering. Apparently if you run the Lime Rock Historics and then the SVRA event at Watkins Glen the next weekend, SVRA will give you a free entry to their WG Test Day. This deal has nothing to do with us, it is all on SVRA. This deal has prompted a couple of us to question if SVRA is involved with our event, and more importantly, does this mean the SVRA rules on fire suppression systems, expiry dates on certain safety equipment, etc. will be enforced. The answer is absolutely not! We are operating under VRG rules, NOT SVRA rules. Be aware your belts must be up to date. Take a few minutes and familiarize yourself on VRG rules if you have not run with us recently, let's try to get everyone through tech with minimal drama! See everyone is less than a month now! Cheers. Henry Frye KCup chair, 2025 and 2026 860.508.3118 From ofracer at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 13:40:41 2025 From: ofracer at gmail.com (Mike Harmuth) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 15:40:41 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup News In-Reply-To: <70caa35612c784e281af2147cf113c06@tr4racer.com> References: <70caa35612c784e281af2147cf113c06@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: Just as a reference, I've attached a link to the standard VRG tech sheet. It will give you an idea what they'll be looking for. https://vrgonline.org/vrg/wp-content/uploads/Forms/TechSheet_20220505_2pgs.pdf mike h On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 2:46?PM yellow04 via Fot wrote: > We are one month away from our feature race of the season! Also, today > is the last day to register at the regular price, save 100 bucks by > getting your entry in today! > > Also, I have received a couple of questions about the email many of us > have received from SVRA regarding a deal they are offering. Apparently > if you run the Lime Rock Historics and then the SVRA event at Watkins > Glen the next weekend, SVRA will give you a free entry to their WG Test > Day. This deal has nothing to do with us, it is all on SVRA. > > This deal has prompted a couple of us to question if SVRA is involved > with our event, and more importantly, does this mean the SVRA rules on > fire suppression systems, expiry dates on certain safety equipment, etc. > will be enforced. The answer is absolutely not! 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It will give you an idea what they'll be looking for. https://vrgonline.org/vrg/wp-content/uploads/Forms/TechSheet_20220505_2pgs.pdf mike h On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 2:46?PM yellow04 via Fot > wrote: We are one month away from our feature race of the season! Also, today is the last day to register at the regular price, save 100 bucks by getting your entry in today! Also, I have received a couple of questions about the email many of us have received from SVRA regarding a deal they are offering. Apparently if you run the Lime Rock Historics and then the SVRA event at Watkins Glen the next weekend, SVRA will give you a free entry to their WG Test Day. This deal has nothing to do with us, it is all on SVRA. This deal has prompted a couple of us to question if SVRA is involved with our event, and more importantly, does this mean the SVRA rules on fire suppression systems, expiry dates on certain safety equipment, etc. will be enforced. The answer is absolutely not! 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King* > > *914 Coral Reef Way* > > *Daytona Beach, FL 32124* > > *paultking19 at gmail.com * > > *C.508-847-4809* > > > > > > > > *From:* Fot *On Behalf Of *Mike Harmuth via > Fot > *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2025 3:41 PM > *To:* yellow04 > *Cc:* FOT > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup News > > > > Just as a reference, I've attached a link to the standard VRG tech sheet. > It will give you an idea what they'll be looking for. > > > > > https://vrgonline.org/vrg/wp-content/uploads/Forms/TechSheet_20220505_2pgs.pdf > > > > mike h > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 2:46?PM yellow04 via Fot > wrote: > > We are one month away from our feature race of the season! Also, today > is the last day to register at the regular price, save 100 bucks by > getting your entry in today! > > Also, I have received a couple of questions about the email many of us > have received from SVRA regarding a deal they are offering. Apparently > if you run the Lime Rock Historics and then the SVRA event at Watkins > Glen the next weekend, SVRA will give you a free entry to their WG Test > Day. This deal has nothing to do with us, it is all on SVRA. > > This deal has prompted a couple of us to question if SVRA is involved > with our event, and more importantly, does this mean the SVRA rules on > fire suppression systems, expiry dates on certain safety equipment, etc. > will be enforced. The answer is absolutely not! 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Henry Frye KCup chair 860.508.3118 From sjanzen at me.com Thu Jul 31 15:13:53 2025 From: sjanzen at me.com (Scott Janzen) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 17:13:53 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup News In-Reply-To: References: <70caa35612c784e281af2147cf113c06@tr4racer.com> Message-ID: <3F2ABDEA-3B62-42B3-B806-C6F97BD108C7@me.com> a link to print out the 2025 LR Historics tech sheet is on this page . https://limerock.com/events/historic-festival/hf-driver-information/ On Jul 31, 2025, at 3:40?PM, Mike Harmuth via Fot wrote: Just as a reference, I've attached a link to the standard VRG tech sheet. It will give you an idea what they'll be looking for. https://vrgonline.org/vrg/wp-content/uploads/Forms/TechSheet_20220505_2pgs.pdf mike h On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 2:46?PM yellow04 via Fot > wrote: > We are one month away from our feature race of the season! Also, today > is the last day to register at the regular price, save 100 bucks by > getting your entry in today! > > Also, I have received a couple of questions about the email many of us > have received from SVRA regarding a deal they are offering. Apparently > if you run the Lime Rock Historics and then the SVRA event at Watkins > Glen the next weekend, SVRA will give you a free entry to their WG Test > Day. This deal has nothing to do with us, it is all on SVRA. > > This deal has prompted a couple of us to question if SVRA is involved > with our event, and more importantly, does this mean the SVRA rules on > fire suppression systems, expiry dates on certain safety equipment, etc. > will be enforced. The answer is absolutely not! 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URL: From vfracing at aol.com Thu Jul 31 15:53:17 2025 From: vfracing at aol.com (Philip Gott) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 17:53:17 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup News In-Reply-To: <009d01dc025b$294a0ab0$7bde2010$@gmail.com> References: <009d01dc025b$294a0ab0$7bde2010$@gmail.com> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at microworks.net Thu Jul 31 17:41:16 2025 From: dave at microworks.net (Dave Riddle) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2025 23:41:16 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup News In-Reply-To: References: <009d01dc025b$294a0ab0$7bde2010$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Just in case? What is your favorite beer? LOL Dave Riddle 602.692.5276 From: Fot On Behalf Of Philip Gott via Fot Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 2:53 PM To: paultking19 at gmail.com Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup News Everyone: whether you are a VRG member or not, please bring your vehicle log book(s). We have our own Triumph-specific tech team this year, so it should be relatively stress-free! Looking forward to seeing everyone! Regards, Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2025, at 5:35?PM, Paul King via Fot > wrote: ? HF43 Technical Regulations and Tech Sheet have been posted to the LRP HF43 page: HF43 Driver Information - Lime Rock Park Paul T. King 914 Coral Reef Way Daytona Beach, FL 32124 paultking19 at gmail.com C.508-847-4809 From: Fot > On Behalf Of Mike Harmuth via Fot Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 3:41 PM To: yellow04 > Cc: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup News Just as a reference, I've attached a link to the standard VRG tech sheet. It will give you an idea what they'll be looking for. https://vrgonline.org/vrg/wp-content/uploads/Forms/TechSheet_20220505_2pgs.pdf mike h On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 2:46?PM yellow04 via Fot > wrote: We are one month away from our feature race of the season! Also, today is the last day to register at the regular price, save 100 bucks by getting your entry in today! Also, I have received a couple of questions about the email many of us have received from SVRA regarding a deal they are offering. Apparently if you run the Lime Rock Historics and then the SVRA event at Watkins Glen the next weekend, SVRA will give you a free entry to their WG Test Day. This deal has nothing to do with us, it is all on SVRA. This deal has prompted a couple of us to question if SVRA is involved with our event, and more importantly, does this mean the SVRA rules on fire suppression systems, expiry dates on certain safety equipment, etc. will be enforced. The answer is absolutely not! We are operating under VRG rules, NOT SVRA rules. Be aware your belts must be up to date. Take a few minutes and familiarize yourself on VRG rules if you have not run with us recently, let's try to get everyone through tech with minimal drama! See everyone is less than a month now! Cheers. 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URL: From trmarty at hotmail.com Thu Jul 31 18:41:40 2025 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:41:40 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup News In-Reply-To: References: <009d01dc025b$294a0ab0$7bde2010$@gmail.com> Message-ID: I believe any beer can wrapped in a $20 bill is his favorite! ? Marty ________________________________ From: Fot on behalf of Dave Riddle via Fot Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 7:41 PM To: FOT (fot at autox.team.net) Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup News Just in case? What is your favorite beer? LOL Dave Riddle 602.692.5276 From: Fot On Behalf Of Philip Gott via Fot Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 2:53 PM To: paultking19 at gmail.com Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup News Everyone: whether you are a VRG member or not, please bring your vehicle log book(s). We have our own Triumph-specific tech team this year, so it should be relatively stress-free! Looking forward to seeing everyone! Regards, Phil Gott Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2025, at 5:35?PM, Paul King via Fot > wrote: ? HF43 Technical Regulations and Tech Sheet have been posted to the LRP HF43 page: HF43 Driver Information - Lime Rock Park Paul T. King 914 Coral Reef Way Daytona Beach, FL 32124 paultking19 at gmail.com C.508-847-4809 From: Fot > On Behalf Of Mike Harmuth via Fot Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2025 3:41 PM To: yellow04 > Cc: FOT > Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup News Just as a reference, I've attached a link to the standard VRG tech sheet. It will give you an idea what they'll be looking for. https://vrgonline.org/vrg/wp-content/uploads/Forms/TechSheet_20220505_2pgs.pdf mike h On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 2:46?PM yellow04 via Fot > wrote: We are one month away from our feature race of the season! Also, today is the last day to register at the regular price, save 100 bucks by getting your entry in today! Also, I have received a couple of questions about the email many of us have received from SVRA regarding a deal they are offering. Apparently if you run the Lime Rock Historics and then the SVRA event at Watkins Glen the next weekend, SVRA will give you a free entry to their WG Test Day. This deal has nothing to do with us, it is all on SVRA. This deal has prompted a couple of us to question if SVRA is involved with our event, and more importantly, does this mean the SVRA rules on fire suppression systems, expiry dates on certain safety equipment, etc. will be enforced. The answer is absolutely not! We are operating under VRG rules, NOT SVRA rules. Be aware your belts must be up to date. Take a few minutes and familiarize yourself on VRG rules if you have not run with us recently, let's try to get everyone through tech with minimal drama! See everyone is less than a month now! Cheers. 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