<< On 7/20/2013 3:39 PM, jerry wall wrote: Perhaps Peter Svilans will grace us with his considerable knowledge >> And/or The Archives looking for 'shutface', 'anodizing' prob'ly with Rich <F> <G> <F> ! ! If his shop doing/did HIS work ( VERY fussy <G> ), send me a note and I'll try and find ! ! Ed