From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Tue Oct 1 04:20:28 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 20:20:28 +1000 Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 100S Article In-Reply-To: <005601d5783e$bcd10ca0$367325e0$@tpg.com.au> References: <005601d5783e$bcd10ca0$367325e0$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <009101d57841$da02ed90$8e08c8b0$@tpg.com.au> Hello Everyone might be interested in the release of digital version of the March 2005 issue of Vintage Racecar magazine. As you can see from the below the feature article is on the 100S and in particular Steve Pike. I am pleased to say that the publisher/editor of Vintage Racecar - Vintage Roadcar has agreed that Austin-Healey owners can have free of charge access to the site for a period of one month. All you need to do is to go to this specific URL. https://vintageracecar.com/product/1mo-free-all-access-subscription/ You will then be asked for a password. The password is ... Healey2019 Once the password is entered add the 1-month free sub to your shopping cart and check out. You then can a username and password at checkout. This subscription will give you access to everything on the site for 30 days, then shut off. The link for the entire issue is: https://vintageracecar.com/2005/03/ The link for the 100S article specifically is: https://vintageracecar.com/sebring-trio/ Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia Ps Feel free in passing it on to your friends. cid:image003.png at 01D5783F.0FF45040 Virus-free. www.avast.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image003.png Type: image/png Size: 607681 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Fri Oct 4 14:54:20 2019 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Bruce Steele) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 13:54:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] fuel gage sending unit In-Reply-To: <70C4719829FD41B3A85B4DEF0FC0CA65@Inspiron660> References: <7FE7869FED9B46B9BD93D1707797B412@Inspiron660> <000001d57681$d34cc460$79e64d20$@sbcglobal.net> <70C4719829FD41B3A85B4DEF0FC0CA65@Inspiron660> Message-ID: <604201d57af5$e6fc7aa0$b4f56fe0$@roadrunner.com> Hi, Ron. I?ve not had experience with the Moss Gold unit, but a number of years back I replaced my sender with a Moss unit and it was highly inaccurate. After speaking with Dave Nock, I inspected the windings on the coil and it looked like a sleepy 3rd grader had assembled it. I got a restored original unit from Dave. It works reasonably well. I say reasonably because I suspect my gauge could use some adjustment but I?ve not attempted it. Rather, I calibrated the sender so that is accurate at the low end reading empty with about 1 gallon remaining, but a full tank reads about 7/8. I can live with that. From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 11:39 PM To: John Spaur ; 'Healey Mailing List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] fuel gage sending unit I think you might be referring to these web pages and others accessible on www.mgaguru.com . Years ago, when first restoring my Healey I built the electronic switch box described on that web site to calibrate my gage. I think it worked well and I still have that box with the rotating switch. If I can?t find a problem with the sending unit I?ll go back to the gage and attempt to reset the calibration. I?m definitely interested in any improvements Moss has made or better sending units now available. https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/circ_f1b.htm https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/fg_01.htm Thanks, Ron Fine From: John Spaur Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:53 PM To: 'Ron Fine' ; 'Healey Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Healeys] fuel gage sending unit There a couple of issues that the list did not address. 1. The windings on the resistor in the sending unit are not as close as an original sending unit and some sending units only have one contact point. I believe the Moss Gold unit has corrected this issue. This could cause the erratic behavior. However the main reason is most likely: 2. The magnetic coils inside the gauge control the full to empty range. They are hard to adjust even if you send the gauge to a shop to have it calibrated. I have not been able to resolve this issue. I think it is because the coils are out of plumb with respect to the pickup within the gauge due to adjustment wear over the years. I can?t find the MG site that has more information about this issue but the picture below show the coils and pickups. You can adjust the coils by loosening the nuts on the back of the case but when the nuts are tightened the coil calibration is affected. I have never successfully calibrated the gauge so it works correctly. By the way, be forewarned if you decide to disassemble the gauge it is a very delicate process and you could break the needle or the very fine coil wires. John Spaur ?62 BT7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fine Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 9:31 AM To: Healey Mailing List > Subject: [Healeys] fuel gage sending unit Due to a leak around the fuel sending unit I needed to remove the unit and decided to replace it with a new one from Moss Motors. The one I was removing was at least 12 years old but it did keep fairly accurate track of the fuel level. The new one seemed to work OK for a few hundred miles, but now it does not move off the full mark until the tank is more than 50% empty. I have carefully checked all the wires and grounding connections and everything looks clean and tight. The gage swings from empty to full when powered up so I doubt the gage is the problem. Any suggestions on what to look for now? I have not removed the unit yet. Are there any ?better quality? sending units available on the market? Thanks, Ron Fine 61 BN7 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From llennep at verizon.net Fri Oct 4 16:28:02 2019 From: llennep at verizon.net (Keith Pennell) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 22:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes References: <1617771769.3896089.1570228082934.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1617771769.3896089.1570228082934@mail.yahoo.com> Well "assembly is the reverse of disassembly" right?? Managed to remove the wiring harness in the manner I have done times before.? That is, attaching a string to the har before pulling it up through the stator tube.? Problem is cannot get har back down through the tube.? After numerous attempts the string broke.? Does not help that the cloth insulation is deteriorated and missing on about the last foot of the har. Any suggestions how to proceedKeith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronfineesq at earthlink.net Fri Oct 4 18:50:52 2019 From: ronfineesq at earthlink.net (Ron Fine) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 17:50:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes In-Reply-To: <1617771769.3896089.1570228082934@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1617771769.3896089.1570228082934.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1617771769.3896089.1570228082934@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7D076D8C40BD401FA3FF0EC13FB8FCEF@Inspiron660> I just went through this process several times on my BN7. I have a relatively new wiring harness, but nothing I tried would get the wires back down the tube. I ended up cutting off the metal connectors on most of the wires, leaving one to use to attach the string. Fairly easy to replace the tips at the front of the steering box if the grill is out of the car. Good Luck Ron Fine From: Keith Pennell via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 04, 2019 3:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes Well "assembly is the reverse of disassembly" right? Managed to remove the wiring harness in the manner I have done times before. That is, attaching a string to the har before pulling it up through the stator tube. Problem is cannot get har back down through the tube. After numerous attempts the string broke. Does not help that the cloth insulation is deteriorated and missing on about the last foot of the har. Any suggestions how to proceed Keith -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ronfineesq at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Fri Oct 4 19:46:29 2019 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 21:46:29 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes In-Reply-To: <7D076D8C40BD401FA3FF0EC13FB8FCEF@Inspiron660> References: <1617771769.3896089.1570228082934.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1617771769.3896089.1570228082934@mail.yahoo.com> <7D076D8C40BD401FA3FF0EC13FB8FCEF@Inspiron660> Message-ID: I have had great success using a single layer of masking tape to wrap the lower part of the harness and securing a length of mechanics wire with the same tape. It is imperative that the bullets are staggered as original but when that is done correctly I've never had a problem. M On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 8:50 PM Ron Fine, wrote: > I just went through this process several times on my BN7. I have a > relatively new wiring harness, but nothing I tried would get the wires back > down the tube. I ended up cutting off the metal connectors on most of the > wires, leaving one to use to attach the string. Fairly easy to replace the > tips at the front of the steering box if the grill is out of the car. > > Good Luck > Ron Fine > > *From:* Keith Pennell via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2019 3:28 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Traffiator install woes > > Well "assembly is the reverse of disassembly" right? Managed to remove > the wiring harness in the manner I have done times before. That is, > attaching a string to the har before pulling it up through the stator > tube. Problem is cannot get har back down through the tube. After > numerous attempts the string broke. Does not help that the cloth > insulation is deteriorated and missing on about the last foot of the har. > > Any suggestions how to proceed > Keith > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ronfineesq at earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fgspringer at gmail.com Fri Oct 4 21:53:33 2019 From: fgspringer at gmail.com (FGary Springer) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 22:53:33 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes In-Reply-To: <7D076D8C40BD401FA3FF0EC13FB8FCEF@Inspiron660> References: <1617771769.3896089.1570228082934.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1617771769.3896089.1570228082934@mail.yahoo.com> <7D076D8C40BD401FA3FF0EC13FB8FCEF@Inspiron660> Message-ID: <4078D1A6-F1A8-4997-BEA0-5792DAA0D9E8@gmail.com> This worked for me: I applied shrink-tubing over the entire length of the harness. This took care of the frayed/missing cloth. Next, I stripped the coating from a length of #12 copper wire that exceeded the length of the stator tube. I then ran this wire with a very heavy fishing line taped to the end up the tube. I then removed line from the wire and pulled copper wire out of the tube. Next, I attached the fish line to the wiring harness and applied talcum powder to the entire length of the harness before pulling it through the tube. Worked flawlessly for me. (?62 BT7) Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2019, at 7:50 PM, Ron Fine wrote: > > I just went through this process several times on my BN7. I have a relatively new wiring harness, but nothing I tried would get the wires back down the tube. I ended up cutting off the metal connectors on most of the wires, leaving one to use to attach the string. Fairly easy to replace the tips at the front of the steering box if the grill is out of the car. > > Good Luck > Ron Fine > > From: Keith Pennell via Healeys > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2019 3:28 PM > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes > > Well "assembly is the reverse of disassembly" right? Managed to remove the wiring harness in the manner I have done times before. That is, attaching a string to the har before pulling it up through the stator tube. Problem is cannot get har back down through the tube. After numerous attempts the string broke. Does not help that the cloth insulation is deteriorated and missing on about the last foot of the har. > > Any suggestions how to proceed > Keith > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ronfineesq at earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fgspringer at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Sat Oct 5 04:25:52 2019 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 10:25:52 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes In-Reply-To: <7D076D8C40BD401FA3FF0EC13FB8FCEF@Inspiron660> References: <7D076D8C40BD401FA3FF0EC13FB8FCEF@Inspiron660> Message-ID: I did the same thing; messy but worked. Regards, Richard C BN7 440 On Oct 4, 2019, at 20:50, Ron Fine wrote: ? I just went through this process several times on my BN7. I have a relatively new wiring harness, but nothing I tried would get the wires back down the tube. I ended up cutting off the metal connectors on most of the wires, leaving one to use to attach the string. Fairly easy to replace the tips at the front of the steering box if the grill is out of the car. Good Luck Ron Fine From: Keith Pennell via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 04, 2019 3:28 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes Well "assembly is the reverse of disassembly" right? Managed to remove the wiring harness in the manner I have done times before. That is, attaching a string to the har before pulling it up through the stator tube. Problem is cannot get har back down through the tube. After numerous attempts the string broke. Does not help that the cloth insulation is deteriorated and missing on about the last foot of the har. Any suggestions how to proceed Keith ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ronfineesq at earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nmcd10 at gmail.com Sat Oct 5 04:44:33 2019 From: nmcd10 at gmail.com (Neil McDonald) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 11:44:33 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes In-Reply-To: References: <7D076D8C40BD401FA3FF0EC13FB8FCEF@Inspiron660> Message-ID: The electrical industry has a special non-oily lubricant that it uses to minimize friction before pulling cables into ducts. First lubricate the wiring harness. If I recall correctly it ends up feeling like talcum powder. Very effective. I guarantee that this would help. Neil BN6 On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 11:26 AM Richard Collins wrote: > I did the same thing; messy but worked. > > Regards, > Richard C > BN7 440 > > > On Oct 4, 2019, at 20:50, Ron Fine wrote: > > ? > I just went through this process several times on my BN7. I have a > relatively new wiring harness, but nothing I tried would get the wires back > down the tube. I ended up cutting off the metal connectors on most of the > wires, leaving one to use to attach the string. Fairly easy to replace the > tips at the front of the steering box if the grill is out of the car. > > Good Luck > Ron Fine > > *From:* Keith Pennell via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2019 3:28 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] Traffiator install woes > > Well "assembly is the reverse of disassembly" right? Managed to remove > the wiring harness in the manner I have done times before. That is, > attaching a string to the har before pulling it up through the stator > tube. Problem is cannot get har back down through the tube. After > numerous attempts the string broke. Does not help that the cloth > insulation is deteriorated and missing on about the last foot of the har. > > Any suggestions how to proceed > Keith > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ronfineesq at earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/nmcd10 at gmail.com > > -- ____________________ Neil & Pam McDonald Email: nmcd10 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sat Oct 5 22:32:55 2019 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2019 21:32:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] California Healey Owners Message-ID: <4328E08A3DE7469FA34A43C977E33845@LeonardPCPC> The following was reported in the United British Sports Car Club's newsletter as coming from the Association of California Car Clubs: "...The Legislature is busy finishing up bills for the year. Of note: Missing a front license plate has gone from a fix-it ticket to a $300 fine...". I have long thought that this was inevitable with all the red light cameras and all the bridges going cashless, no human toll takers, encouraging the use of Fastrak. I know there are a lot of Healeys without front license plates. Has anyone been cited yet? (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 220,738 miles -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neilandcustom at gmail.com Sun Oct 6 09:00:15 2019 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:00:15 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rearview mirror mount Message-ID: Can anyone provide a photo or good description of how the rearview mirror mounts on a BN2? It may be the same for all Big Healeys, but my question is in regards to a late 100. If you have the dash panel out on a car you are working on, you may be able to see how the mirror is mounted. On the way to Conclave in the Black Hills, the mirror on the BN2 we trailered to the meet came loose from it's mount. The mirror was a little loose before we left, but did not look into it then. I felt under the dash and can feel a bracket, but cannot take a photo because of the heater controls that are in the way. Does the bracket hold captured nuts or possibly a captured plate with threaded holes? We didn't lose the chrome mount screws, fortunately. The car won first in it's class in popularity voting, so I guess the missing mirror didn't affect voting. Thanks for any help. Photo from Badlands N.P. Neil Anderson Northern Illinois -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Badlands1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 5315134 bytes Desc: not available URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Oct 6 10:46:40 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 09:46:40 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] California Healey Owners In-Reply-To: <4328E08A3DE7469FA34A43C977E33845@LeonardPCPC> References: <4328E08A3DE7469FA34A43C977E33845@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: I got a $154 ticket in San Francisco for not having my front Oregon plate on my car! Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:33 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett < thehartnetts at earthlink.net> wrote: > > The following was reported in the United British Sports Car Club's > newsletter as coming from the Association of California Car Clubs: "...The > Legislature is busy finishing up bills for the year. Of note: Missing a > front license plate has gone from a fix-it ticket to a $300 fine...". > > I have long thought that this was inevitable with all the red light > cameras and all the bridges going cashless, no human toll > takers, encouraging the use of Fastrak. > > I know there are a lot of Healeys without front license plates. Has > anyone been cited yet? > > (The Other) Len > Fairfield, CA, USA > 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > 220,738 miles > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Oct 6 10:49:17 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 09:49:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] California Healey Owners In-Reply-To: References: <4328E08A3DE7469FA34A43C977E33845@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: It was my Ford Escape. I have a special interest yom plate on my Healey and only one is required. Otherwise I need both plates. BTW I bough my ford from a used car lot with no front olste or mounting bracket. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 9:46 AM i erbs wrote: > I got a $154 ticket in San Francisco for not having my front Oregon > plate on my car! > > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone > > On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:33 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett < > thehartnetts at earthlink.net> wrote: > >> >> The following was reported in the United British Sports Car Club's >> newsletter as coming from the Association of California Car Clubs: "...The >> Legislature is busy finishing up bills for the year. Of note: Missing a >> front license plate has gone from a fix-it ticket to a $300 fine...". >> >> I have long thought that this was inevitable with all the red light >> cameras and all the bridges going cashless, no human toll >> takers, encouraging the use of Fastrak. >> >> I know there are a lot of Healeys without front license plates. Has >> anyone been cited yet? >> >> (The Other) Len >> Fairfield, CA, USA >> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 >> 220,738 miles >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Oct 6 10:57:09 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 09:57:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rearview mirror mount In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <829dc7bb-ee70-e8ed-603e-47e2bdb8d283@comcast.net> Neil, Do you have a Moss catalog?? They have a pretty good diagram of the mirror assembly (p. 112 on the latest catalog).? It's comprised of the mirror, a nut plate, a couple screws and a bracket (the diagram shows the bracket under the nut plate, but I think it's a fair assumption the nut plate goes under the bracket--that's how i assembled mine).? On the bracket, the two screws go through the upper part into the nut plate, and the bottom of the bracket has a hole for the single, chrome-plated screw and flat washer located dead center of the dash. I'd send a link, but Moss doesn't have the diagrams online.? I'll get some photos today if you need them, but the diagram is pretty self-explanatory and, as you mention, I don't think you can see much with the heater in the way. Bo On 10/6/2019 8:00 AM, Neil Anderson wrote: > Can anyone provide a photo or good description of how the rearview > mirror mounts on a BN2?? It may be the same for all Big Healeys, but > my question is in regards to a late 100.? If you have the dash panel > out on a car you are working on, you may be able to see how the mirror > is mounted. > > On the way to Conclave in the Black Hills, the mirror on the BN2 we > trailered to the meet?came loose from it's mount.??The mirror was a > little loose before we left, but did not look into it then.? I felt > under the dash and can feel a bracket, but cannot take a photo because > of the heater controls that are?in the way. > > Does the bracket hold captured nuts or possibly a captured plate with > threaded holes?? We didn't lose the chrome mount screws, fortunately. > > The car won first in it's class?in popularity voting, so I guess the > missing mirror didn't affect voting. > > Thanks for any help.? Photo from Badlands N.P. > > Neil Anderson > Northern Illinois > From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 6 11:25:28 2019 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:25:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] California Healey Owners In-Reply-To: References: <4328E08A3DE7469FA34A43C977E33845@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <000001d57c6b$0c8e3990$25aaacb0$@sbcglobal.net> I got a fix-it ticket a few years ago while driving a Mitsubishi Eclipse. I quickly fabricated a snap on bracket, drove to the police station, had the ticket signed off, left the station, stopped and removed the front plate. I don?t have front plates on the healey or my daily driver. However, it does not matter if the car came without a front mounting bracket, in California it is the owners? responsibility to mount the front plate. If I am pulled over for that I plan on telling them that I just finished some body work and the front bracket is backordered. Don?t know if that will work. John Spaur ?62 BT7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 9:49 AM To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Healey Owners It was my Ford Escape. I have a special interest yom plate on my Healey and only one is required. Otherwise I need both plates. BTW I bough my ford from a used car lot with no front olste or mounting bracket. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 9:46 AM i erbs > wrote: I got a $154 ticket in San Francisco for not having my front Oregon plate on my car! Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:33 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett > wrote: The following was reported in the United British Sports Car Club's newsletter as coming from the Association of California Car Clubs: "...The Legislature is busy finishing up bills for the year. Of note: Missing a front license plate has gone from a fix-it ticket to a $300 fine...". I have long thought that this was inevitable with all the red light cameras and all the bridges going cashless, no human toll takers, encouraging the use of Fastrak. I know there are a lot of Healeys without front license plates. Has anyone been cited yet? (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 220,738 miles _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neilandcustom at gmail.com Sun Oct 6 11:29:17 2019 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 12:29:17 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Rearview mirror mount In-Reply-To: <829dc7bb-ee70-e8ed-603e-47e2bdb8d283@comcast.net> References: <829dc7bb-ee70-e8ed-603e-47e2bdb8d283@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thanks Mike and Bob. That helps a lot. I didn't think of looking in the Moss catalog. I was thinking of making a threaded plate to mount the mirror. Now that I know the plate is NA from Moss, I *will* have to make my own. I can use transfer marking punches to get the hole spacing exact. We never found any nuts or plate when the mirror came loose, so not sure what was put on there when the car was restored. Mike, the tires are Vredestein 165 HR15 Sprint Classics. This BN2 that we took to South Dakota is not my car. It is owned by a female friend of mine. Neil On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 12:00 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > Neil, > > Do you have a Moss catalog? They have a pretty good diagram of the > mirror assembly (p. 112 on the latest catalog). It's comprised of the > mirror, a nut plate, a couple screws and a bracket (the diagram shows > the bracket under the nut plate, but I think it's a fair assumption the > nut plate goes under the bracket--that's how i assembled mine). On the > bracket, the two screws go through the upper part into the nut plate, > and the bottom of the bracket has a hole for the single, chrome-plated > screw and flat washer located dead center of the dash. > > I'd send a link, but Moss doesn't have the diagrams online. I'll get > some photos today if you need them, but the diagram is pretty > self-explanatory and, as you mention, I don't think you can see much > with the heater in the way. > > Bo > > On 10/6/2019 8:00 AM, Neil Anderson wrote: > > Can anyone provide a photo or good description of how the rearview > > mirror mounts on a BN2? It may be the same for all Big Healeys, but > > my question is in regards to a late 100. If you have the dash panel > > out on a car you are working on, you may be able to see how the mirror > > is mounted. > > > > On the way to Conclave in the Black Hills, the mirror on the BN2 we > > trailered to the meet came loose from it's mount. The mirror was a > > little loose before we left, but did not look into it then. I felt > > under the dash and can feel a bracket, but cannot take a photo because > > of the heater controls that are in the way. > > > > Does the bracket hold captured nuts or possibly a captured plate with > > threaded holes? We didn't lose the chrome mount screws, fortunately. > > > > The car won first in it's class in popularity voting, so I guess the > > missing mirror didn't affect voting. > > > > Thanks for any help. Photo from Badlands N.P. > > > > Neil Anderson > > Northern Illinois > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Oct 6 11:29:29 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:29:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Rearview mirror mount In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice car, BTW. On 10/6/2019 8:00 AM, Neil Anderson wrote: > Can anyone provide a photo or good description of how the rearview > mirror mounts on a BN2?? It may be the same for all Big Healeys, but > my question is in regards to a late 100.? If you have the dash panel > out on a car you are working on, you may be able to see how the mirror > is mounted. > > On the way to Conclave in the Black Hills, the mirror on the BN2 we > trailered to the meet?came loose from it's mount.??The mirror was a > little loose before we left, but did not look into it then.? I felt > under the dash and can feel a bracket, but cannot take a photo because > of the heater controls that are?in the way. > > Does the bracket hold captured nuts or possibly a captured plate with > threaded holes?? We didn't lose the chrome mount screws, fortunately. > > The car won first in it's class?in popularity voting, so I guess the > missing mirror didn't affect voting. > > Thanks for any help.? Photo from Badlands N.P. > > Neil Anderson > Northern Illinois > From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sun Oct 6 11:32:58 2019 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 18:32:58 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] SU Dashpot puzzle Message-ID: <000001d57c6c$199fe880$4cdfb980$@alexarevel.plus.com> Here's one for the technoctats:- You may have noticed my posts about swapping from two-shouldered to single-shouldered dashpots. I did it because having two of one and one of the other was irritating, not because I thought there'd be any changes. So, I swapped the offending two and that gave me three HD6s, all with one shoulder. Car started on the choke, same as normal. Seemingly! However, doing the garden hose in one ear trick revealed that the rear carb, always single shouldered, was making less intake hiss than the other recently added pair. Easily rectified. I took the car out this afternoon. Started fine and ran well. But, if I eased off, the revs dropped and the engine cut out. Also, there was quite a lot of popping and f**ting on the overrun. So, on my return, I gave the front two carbs about half a turn up on the slow idle screws. This, quite small adjustment really, seemed to cure it and even to raise the idle rather higher than I like. Adjusted down quarter of a turn and all seems well. Questions:- beyond the obvious - ie that changing dashpots does make a difference after all - what is going on? Why was there a change? (Plainly, I swapped needles and springs when I swapped dashpots so I've got all the same in the carbs..the ones that I had all along). Any ideas? Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Sun Oct 6 11:36:21 2019 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:36:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets Message-ID: I am looking for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is either the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be 1/8" dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long. Thanks in advance ... Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Sun Oct 6 11:42:17 2019 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 19:42:17 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] SU Dashpot puzzle In-Reply-To: <000001d57c6c$199fe880$4cdfb980$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d57c6c$199fe880$4cdfb980$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Did you keep the pistons with the dashpots. They are matched. Kees Oudesluijs Op 6-10-2019 om 19:32 schreef simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com: > > Here?s one for the technoctats:- > > You may have noticed my posts about swapping from two-shouldered to > single-shouldered dashpots. I did it because having two of one and one > of the other was irritating, not because I thought there?d be any changes. > > So, I swapped the offending two and that gave me three HD6s, all with > one shoulder. > > Car started on the choke, same as normal. Seemingly! > > However, doing the garden hose in one ear trick revealed that the rear > carb, always single shouldered, was making less intake hiss than the > other recently added pair. Easily rectified. > > I took the car out this afternoon. Started fine and ran well. But, if > I eased off, the revs dropped and the engine cut out. Also, there was > quite a lot of popping and f**ting on the overrun. > > So, on my return, I gave the front two carbs about half a turn up on > the slow idle screws. This, quite small adjustment really, seemed to > cure it and even to raise the idle rather higher than I like. > > Adjusted down quarter of a turn and all seems well. > > Questions:- beyond the obvious ? ie that changing dashpots does make a > difference after all ? what is going on? Why was there a change? > > (Plainly, I swapped needles and springs when I swapped dashpots so > I?ve got all the same in the carbs?.the ones that I had all along). > > Any ideas? > > Simon > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From llennep at verizon.net Sun Oct 6 11:45:42 2019 From: llennep at verizon.net (Keith Pennell) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 17:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1686141658.4395224.1570383943013@mail.yahoo.com> Harold here in the east Ace Hardware has an unusually good variety of bits and pieces? You might try them.Keith -----Original Message----- From: Harold Manifold To: 'Healey List' Sent: Sun, Oct 6, 2019 1:36 pm Subject: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets I am looking?for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is either the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be 1/8" dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long.?Thanks in advance ... Harold_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From llennep at verizon.net Sun Oct 6 11:50:15 2019 From: llennep at verizon.net (Keith Pennell) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 17:50:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Steering box References: <7262242.4376716.1570384215093.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7262242.4376716.1570384215093@mail.yahoo.com> Hello All!? Probably need to top off the steering box and idler.? What sort of "goop" are yall using?Keith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The size seems to be > 1/8" dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long. > Thanks in advance ... Harold > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Oct 6 11:55:58 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:55:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Steering box In-Reply-To: <7262242.4376716.1570384215093@mail.yahoo.com> References: <7262242.4376716.1570384215093.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <7262242.4376716.1570384215093@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4f787d56-09bf-20fe-bd6a-b99c3128ced3@comcast.net> If your box doesn't leak (much), any good gear oil will do.? Penrite or Corn Head Grease if it's a leaker. On 10/6/2019 10:50 AM, Keith Pennell via Healeys wrote: > Hello All!? Probably need to top off the steering box and idler.? What > sort of "goop" are yall using? > Keith > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From neilandcustom at gmail.com Sun Oct 6 11:57:08 2019 From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 12:57:08 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You might try a hardware store that is not a chain or big box store. We have one locally that has a whole row of bolts-nuts-washer bins with specialty hardware above that. Why can't Moss order the correct ones from a place like McMaster-Carr? If they need to order a 1000, then they will have an adequate supply for us that need small amounts. You know that are going to mark them up, but at least we won't have 980 pieces we don't need. Neil Anderson On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 12:36 PM Harold Manifold wrote: > I am looking for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is > either the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be 1/8" > dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long. > > Thanks in advance ... Harold > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Sun Oct 6 13:24:56 2019 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 19:24:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] California Healey Owners In-Reply-To: <000001d57c6b$0c8e3990$25aaacb0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <4328E08A3DE7469FA34A43C977E33845@LeonardPCPC> <000001d57c6b$0c8e3990$25aaacb0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1532606048.4400274.1570389896245@mail.yahoo.com> My Harley doesn't have a front plate. Does that count? On Sunday, October 6, 2019, 10:25:56 AM PDT, John Spaur wrote: #yiv1526966122 #yiv1526966122 -- _filtered #yiv1526966122 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv1526966122 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv1526966122 #yiv1526966122 p.yiv1526966122MsoNormal, #yiv1526966122 li.yiv1526966122MsoNormal, #yiv1526966122 div.yiv1526966122MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New serif;}#yiv1526966122 a:link, #yiv1526966122 span.yiv1526966122MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1526966122 a:visited, #yiv1526966122 span.yiv1526966122MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv1526966122 span.yiv1526966122EmailStyle17 {font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv1526966122 .yiv1526966122MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered #yiv1526966122 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv1526966122 div.yiv1526966122WordSection1 {}#yiv1526966122 I got a fix-it ticket a few years ago while driving a Mitsubishi Eclipse. I quickly fabricated a snap on bracket, drove to the police station, had the ticket signed off, left the station, stopped and removed the front plate. I don?t have front plates on the healey or my daily driver. However, it does not matter if the car came without a front mounting bracket, in California it is the owners? responsibility to mount the front plate. If I am pulled over for that I plan on telling them that I just finished some body work and the front bracket is backordered. Don?t know if that will work. ? John Spaur ?62 BT7 ? From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 9:49 AM To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Healey Owners ? It was my Ford Escape. I have a special interest yom plate on my Healey and only one is required. Otherwise I need both plates. BTW I bough my ford from a used car lot with no front olste or mounting bracket. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone ? On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 9:46 AM i erbs wrote: I got a $154?ticket in San? Francisco for not having my front Oregon plate on my car! Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone ? On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:33 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett wrote: ? The following was reported in the United British Sports Car Club's newsletter as coming from the Association of California Car Clubs:? "...The Legislature is busy finishing up bills for the year. Of note: Missing a front license plate has gone from a fix-it ticket to a $300 fine...". ? I have long thought that this was inevitable with all the red light cameras and all the bridges going cashless, no human toll takers,?encouraging?the use of Fastrak. ? I know there are a lot of Healeys without front license plates.? Has anyone been cited yet? ? (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ??? ??? ??? 220,738 miles _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You know that are going to mark them up, but at > least we won't have 980 pieces we don't need. > > Neil Anderson > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 12:36 PM Harold Manifold > wrote: > >> I am looking for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is >> either the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be 1/8" >> dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long. >> >> Thanks in advance ... 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URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 6 14:14:09 2019 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 13:14:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] SU Dashpot puzzle In-Reply-To: <000001d57c6c$199fe880$4cdfb980$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d57c6c$199fe880$4cdfb980$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <003401d57c82$9d27c680$d7775380$@sbcglobal.net> There is a fall rate test in the SU Manual to check the piston against the dash pot. As Kees stated, they are matched. John From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:33 AM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] SU Dashpot puzzle Here's one for the technoctats:- You may have noticed my posts about swapping from two-shouldered to single-shouldered dashpots. I did it because having two of one and one of the other was irritating, not because I thought there'd be any changes. So, I swapped the offending two and that gave me three HD6s, all with one shoulder. Car started on the choke, same as normal. Seemingly! However, doing the garden hose in one ear trick revealed that the rear carb, always single shouldered, was making less intake hiss than the other recently added pair. Easily rectified. I took the car out this afternoon. Started fine and ran well. But, if I eased off, the revs dropped and the engine cut out. Also, there was quite a lot of popping and f**ting on the overrun. So, on my return, I gave the front two carbs about half a turn up on the slow idle screws. This, quite small adjustment really, seemed to cure it and even to raise the idle rather higher than I like. Adjusted down quarter of a turn and all seems well. Questions:- beyond the obvious - ie that changing dashpots does make a difference after all - what is going on? Why was there a change? (Plainly, I swapped needles and springs when I swapped dashpots so I've got all the same in the carbs..the ones that I had all along). Any ideas? Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alsemus1 at gmail.com Sun Oct 6 14:15:04 2019 From: alsemus1 at gmail.com (Albert Seminatore) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 13:15:04 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes Message-ID: You can buy an electrical snake from Home Depot. thread it all the way up through the column and out through the steering wheel hub. Fold one of the bullet connectors over the end to the snake. Lay the other wires along the snake and wrap the whole mess with electrical tape. Have some one maintain steady pressure on the wires using the snake and then some one else feeds the trafficator wires and assembly in from the steering wheel end. It sounds a whole lot more complex than actually doing it though. .................... 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URL: From ahbn6 at verizon.net Sun Oct 6 15:04:09 2019 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (ahbn6 at verizon.net) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 17:04:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: Source for Split Rivets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005801d57c89$99622ed0$cc268c70$@verizon.net> Look at: https://www.britishcarspecialists.com/store/index.php?category= &subcategory=&s=&page=34 https://www.britishcarspecialists.com/store/index.php?category= &subcategory=&s=&page=71 https://www.britishcarspecialists.com/store/index.php?category=&subcategory=&s=&page=72 John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ From: Healeys On Behalf Of HealeyRick Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 4:11 PM To: Neil Anderson Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets Try British Car Specialists: https://www.britishcarspecialists.com/index.php Rick Neville On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 1:57 PM Neil Anderson > wrote: You might try a hardware store that is not a chain or big box store. We have one locally that has a whole row of bolts-nuts-washer bins with specialty hardware above that. Why can't Moss order the correct ones from a place like McMaster-Carr? If they need to order a 1000, then they will have an adequate supply for us that need small amounts. You know that are going to mark them up, but at least we won't have 980 pieces we don't need. Neil Anderson On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 12:36 PM Harold Manifold > wrote: I am looking for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is either the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be 1/8" dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long. Thanks in advance .. Harold _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... 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Tim Davis BN7 ----- Original Message ----- From: healeys-request at autox.team.net To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 06 Oct 2019 14:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Healeys Digest, Vol 12, Issue 326 Send Healeys mailing list submissions to healeys at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to healeys-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at healeys-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: California Healey Owners (i erbs) 2. Re: California Healey Owners (i erbs) 3. Re: Rearview mirror mount (Bob Spidell) 4. Re: California Healey Owners (John Spaur) 5. Re: Rearview mirror mount (Neil Anderson) 6. Re: Rearview mirror mount (Bob Spidell) 7. SU Dashpot puzzle (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) 8. Source for Split Rivets (Harold Manifold) 9. Re: SU Dashpot puzzle (Kees Oudesluijs) 10. Re: Source for Split Rivets (Keith Pennell) 11. Steering box (Keith Pennell) 12. [OT-No Healey Content] Correlation vs Causation (Bob Spidell) 13. Re: Source for Split Rivets (Bob Spidell) 14. Re: Steering box (Bob Spidell) 15. Re: Source for Split Rivets (Neil Anderson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 09:46:40 -0700 From: i erbs To: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Healey Owners Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I got a $154 ticket in San Francisco for not having my front Oregon plate on my car! Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:33 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett < thehartnetts at earthlink.net> wrote: > > The following was reported in the United British Sports Car Club's > newsletter as coming from the Association of California Car Clubs: "...The > Legislature is busy finishing up bills for the year. Of note: Missing a > front license plate has gone from a fix-it ticket to a $300 fine...". > > I have long thought that this was inevitable with all the red light > cameras and all the bridges going cashless, no human toll > takers, encouraging the use of Fastrak. > > I know there are a lot of Healeys without front license plates. Has > anyone been cited yet? > > (The Other) Len > Fairfield, CA, USA > 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > 220,738 miles > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 09:49:17 -0700 From: i erbs To: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Healey Owners Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" It was my Ford Escape. I have a special interest yom plate on my Healey and only one is required. Otherwise I need both plates. BTW I bough my ford from a used car lot with no front olste or mounting bracket. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 9:46 AM i erbs wrote: > I got a $154 ticket in San Francisco for not having my front Oregon > plate on my car! > > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone > > On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:33 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett < > thehartnetts at earthlink.net> wrote: > >> >> The following was reported in the United British Sports Car Club's >> newsletter as coming from the Association of California Car Clubs: "...The >> Legislature is busy finishing up bills for the year. Of note: Missing a >> front license plate has gone from a fix-it ticket to a $300 fine...". >> >> I have long thought that this was inevitable with all the red light >> cameras and all the bridges going cashless, no human toll >> takers, encouraging the use of Fastrak. >> >> I know there are a lot of Healeys without front license plates. Has >> anyone been cited yet? >> >> (The Other) Len >> Fairfield, CA, USA >> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 >> 220,738 miles >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 09:57:09 -0700 From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rearview mirror mount Message-ID: <829dc7bb-ee70-e8ed-603e-47e2bdb8d283 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Neil, Do you have a Moss catalog?? They have a pretty good diagram of the mirror assembly (p. 112 on the latest catalog).? It's comprised of the mirror, a nut plate, a couple screws and a bracket (the diagram shows the bracket under the nut plate, but I think it's a fair assumption the nut plate goes under the bracket--that's how i assembled mine).? On the bracket, the two screws go through the upper part into the nut plate, and the bottom of the bracket has a hole for the single, chrome-plated screw and flat washer located dead center of the dash. I'd send a link, but Moss doesn't have the diagrams online.? I'll get some photos today if you need them, but the diagram is pretty self-explanatory and, as you mention, I don't think you can see much with the heater in the way. Bo On 10/6/2019 8:00 AM, Neil Anderson wrote: > Can anyone provide a photo or good description of how the rearview > mirror mounts on a BN2?? It may be the same for all Big Healeys, but > my question is in regards to a late 100.? If you have the dash panel > out on a car you are working on, you may be able to see how the mirror > is mounted. > > On the way to Conclave in the Black Hills, the mirror on the BN2 we > trailered to the meet?came loose from it's mount.??The mirror was a > little loose before we left, but did not look into it then.? I felt > under the dash and can feel a bracket, but cannot take a photo because > of the heater controls that are?in the way. > > Does the bracket hold captured nuts or possibly a captured plate with > threaded holes?? We didn't lose the chrome mount screws, fortunately. > > The car won first in it's class?in popularity voting, so I guess the > missing mirror didn't affect voting. > > Thanks for any help.? Photo from Badlands N.P. > > Neil Anderson > Northern Illinois > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:25:28 -0700 From: "John Spaur" To: "'i erbs'" , "'Len and/or Marge Hartnett'" Cc: "'Ahealey help'" Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Healey Owners Message-ID: <000001d57c6b$0c8e3990$25aaacb0$@sbcglobal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I got a fix-it ticket a few years ago while driving a Mitsubishi Eclipse. I quickly fabricated a snap on bracket, drove to the police station, had the ticket signed off, left the station, stopped and removed the front plate. I don?t have front plates on the healey or my daily driver. However, it does not matter if the car came without a front mounting bracket, in California it is the owners? responsibility to mount the front plate. If I am pulled over for that I plan on telling them that I just finished some body work and the front bracket is backordered. Don?t know if that will work. John Spaur ?62 BT7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 9:49 AM To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Healey Owners It was my Ford Escape. I have a special interest yom plate on my Healey and only one is required. Otherwise I need both plates. BTW I bough my ford from a used car lot with no front olste or mounting bracket. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 9:46 AM i erbs > wrote: I got a $154 ticket in San Francisco for not having my front Oregon plate on my car! Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 9:33 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett > wrote: The following was reported in the United British Sports Car Club's newsletter as coming from the Association of California Car Clubs: "...The Legislature is busy finishing up bills for the year. Of note: Missing a front license plate has gone from a fix-it ticket to a $300 fine...". I have long thought that this was inevitable with all the red light cameras and all the bridges going cashless, no human toll takers, encouraging the use of Fastrak. I know there are a lot of Healeys without front license plates. Has anyone been cited yet? (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 220,738 miles _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 12:29:17 -0500 From: Neil Anderson To: Bob Spidell Cc: Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rearview mirror mount Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks Mike and Bob. That helps a lot. I didn't think of looking in the Moss catalog. I was thinking of making a threaded plate to mount the mirror. Now that I know the plate is NA from Moss, I *will* have to make my own. I can use transfer marking punches to get the hole spacing exact. We never found any nuts or plate when the mirror came loose, so not sure what was put on there when the car was restored. Mike, the tires are Vredestein 165 HR15 Sprint Classics. This BN2 that we took to South Dakota is not my car. It is owned by a female friend of mine. Neil On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 12:00 PM Bob Spidell wrote: > Neil, > > Do you have a Moss catalog? They have a pretty good diagram of the > mirror assembly (p. 112 on the latest catalog). It's comprised of the > mirror, a nut plate, a couple screws and a bracket (the diagram shows > the bracket under the nut plate, but I think it's a fair assumption the > nut plate goes under the bracket--that's how i assembled mine). On the > bracket, the two screws go through the upper part into the nut plate, > and the bottom of the bracket has a hole for the single, chrome-plated > screw and flat washer located dead center of the dash. > > I'd send a link, but Moss doesn't have the diagrams online. I'll get > some photos today if you need them, but the diagram is pretty > self-explanatory and, as you mention, I don't think you can see much > with the heater in the way. > > Bo > > On 10/6/2019 8:00 AM, Neil Anderson wrote: > > Can anyone provide a photo or good description of how the rearview > > mirror mounts on a BN2? It may be the same for all Big Healeys, but > > my question is in regards to a late 100. If you have the dash panel > > out on a car you are working on, you may be able to see how the mirror > > is mounted. > > > > On the way to Conclave in the Black Hills, the mirror on the BN2 we > > trailered to the meet came loose from it's mount. The mirror was a > > little loose before we left, but did not look into it then. I felt > > under the dash and can feel a bracket, but cannot take a photo because > > of the heater controls that are in the way. > > > > Does the bracket hold captured nuts or possibly a captured plate with > > threaded holes? We didn't lose the chrome mount screws, fortunately. > > > > The car won first in it's class in popularity voting, so I guess the > > missing mirror didn't affect voting. > > > > Thanks for any help. Photo from Badlands N.P. > > > > Neil Anderson > > Northern Illinois > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/neilandcustom at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:29:29 -0700 From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rearview mirror mount Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Nice car, BTW. On 10/6/2019 8:00 AM, Neil Anderson wrote: > Can anyone provide a photo or good description of how the rearview > mirror mounts on a BN2?? It may be the same for all Big Healeys, but > my question is in regards to a late 100.? If you have the dash panel > out on a car you are working on, you may be able to see how the mirror > is mounted. > > On the way to Conclave in the Black Hills, the mirror on the BN2 we > trailered to the meet?came loose from it's mount.??The mirror was a > little loose before we left, but did not look into it then.? I felt > under the dash and can feel a bracket, but cannot take a photo because > of the heater controls that are?in the way. > > Does the bracket hold captured nuts or possibly a captured plate with > threaded holes?? We didn't lose the chrome mount screws, fortunately. > > The car won first in it's class?in popularity voting, so I guess the > missing mirror didn't affect voting. > > Thanks for any help.? Photo from Badlands N.P. > > Neil Anderson > Northern Illinois > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 18:32:58 +0100 From: To: "'Healeys'" Subject: [Healeys] SU Dashpot puzzle Message-ID: <000001d57c6c$199fe880$4cdfb980$@alexarevel.plus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here's one for the technoctats:- You may have noticed my posts about swapping from two-shouldered to single-shouldered dashpots. I did it because having two of one and one of the other was irritating, not because I thought there'd be any changes. So, I swapped the offending two and that gave me three HD6s, all with one shoulder. Car started on the choke, same as normal. Seemingly! However, doing the garden hose in one ear trick revealed that the rear carb, always single shouldered, was making less intake hiss than the other recently added pair. Easily rectified. I took the car out this afternoon. Started fine and ran well. But, if I eased off, the revs dropped and the engine cut out. Also, there was quite a lot of popping and f**ting on the overrun. So, on my return, I gave the front two carbs about half a turn up on the slow idle screws. This, quite small adjustment really, seemed to cure it and even to raise the idle rather higher than I like. Adjusted down quarter of a turn and all seems well. Questions:- beyond the obvious - ie that changing dashpots does make a difference after all - what is going on? Why was there a change? (Plainly, I swapped needles and springs when I swapped dashpots so I've got all the same in the carbs..the ones that I had all along). Any ideas? Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:36:21 -0700 From: "Harold Manifold" To: "'Healey List'" Subject: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am looking for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is either the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be 1/8" dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long. Thanks in advance ... Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 19:42:17 +0200 From: Kees Oudesluijs To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU Dashpot puzzle Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" Did you keep the pistons with the dashpots. They are matched. Kees Oudesluijs Op 6-10-2019 om 19:32 schreef simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com: > > Here?s one for the technoctats:- > > You may have noticed my posts about swapping from two-shouldered to > single-shouldered dashpots. I did it because having two of one and one > of the other was irritating, not because I thought there?d be any changes. > > So, I swapped the offending two and that gave me three HD6s, all with > one shoulder. > > Car started on the choke, same as normal. Seemingly! > > However, doing the garden hose in one ear trick revealed that the rear > carb, always single shouldered, was making less intake hiss than the > other recently added pair. Easily rectified. > > I took the car out this afternoon. Started fine and ran well. But, if > I eased off, the revs dropped and the engine cut out. Also, there was > quite a lot of popping and f**ting on the overrun. > > So, on my return, I gave the front two carbs about half a turn up on > the slow idle screws. This, quite small adjustment really, seemed to > cure it and even to raise the idle rather higher than I like. > > Adjusted down quarter of a turn and all seems well. > > Questions:- beyond the obvious ? ie that changing dashpots does make a > difference after all ? what is going on? Why was there a change? > > (Plainly, I swapped needles and springs when I swapped dashpots so > I?ve got all the same in the carbs?.the ones that I had all along). > > Any ideas? > > Simon > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 17:45:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Keith Pennell To: manifold at telus.net, healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets Message-ID: <1686141658.4395224.1570383943013 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Harold here in the east Ace Hardware has an unusually good variety of bits and pieces? You might try them.Keith -----Original Message----- From: Harold Manifold To: 'Healey List' Sent: Sun, Oct 6, 2019 1:36 pm Subject: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets I am looking?for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is either the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be 1/8" dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long.?Thanks in advance ... Harold_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 17:50:15 +0000 (UTC) From: Keith Pennell To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Steering box Message-ID: <7262242.4376716.1570384215093 at mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello All!? Probably need to top off the steering box and idler.? What sort of "goop" are yall using?Keith -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:51:01 -0700 From: Bob Spidell To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] [OT-No Healey Content] Correlation vs Causation Message-ID: <5f6cd2f7-0757-ea22-fcdd-d1b92ce5756b at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Came across this this morning: https://www.fastcompany.com/3030529/hilarious-graphs-prove-that-correlation-isnt-causation bs ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:53:08 -0700 From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets Message-ID: <79e1e13c-0c38-fc5c-210b-26140e791d15 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" They're out there: *https://tinyurl.com/yy7lnl7l* Looks like you'll need to buy $33 worth of table doilies, though. bs On 10/6/2019 10:36 AM, Harold Manifold wrote: > I am looking?for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is > either the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be > 1/8" dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long. > Thanks in advance ... Harold > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 10:55:58 -0700 From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering box Message-ID: <4f787d56-09bf-20fe-bd6a-b99c3128ced3 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" If your box doesn't leak (much), any good gear oil will do.? Penrite or Corn Head Grease if it's a leaker. On 10/6/2019 10:50 AM, Keith Pennell via Healeys wrote: > Hello All!? Probably need to top off the steering box and idler.? What > sort of "goop" are yall using? > Keith > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 12:57:08 -0500 From: Neil Anderson To: Harold Manifold Cc: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Source for Split Rivets Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" You might try a hardware store that is not a chain or big box store. We have one locally that has a whole row of bolts-nuts-washer bins with specialty hardware above that. Why can't Moss order the correct ones from a place like McMaster-Carr? If they need to order a 1000, then they will have an adequate supply for us that need small amounts. You know that are going to mark them up, but at least we won't have 980 pieces we don't need. Neil Anderson On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 12:36 PM Harold Manifold wrote: > I am looking for a source for split rivets. All I can find on line is > either the wrong size or you need to buy 1000's. The size seems to be 1/8" > dia x 1/2" or 9/16" long. > > Thanks in advance ... 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URL: ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Healeys mailing list Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys archives: http://autox.team.net/archive ------------------------------ End of Healeys Digest, Vol 12, Issue 326 **************************************** From thehartnetts at earthlink.net Sun Oct 6 16:21:20 2019 From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 15:21:20 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] California Healey Owners In-Reply-To: <1532606048.4400274.1570389896245@mail.yahoo.com> References: <4328E08A3DE7469FA34A43C977E33845@LeonardPCPC> <000001d57c6b$0c8e3990$25aaacb0$@sbcglobal.net> <1532606048.4400274.1570389896245@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <241577CA8793430A9B37EB10B6F10753@LeonardPCPC> Well, golly, Michael. Your photo makes it obvious. Two of your wheels and the body have fallen off. That's just a faulty spelling on the nameplate. On the positive side, you are keeping the engine area nice and clean. Len ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael MacLean To: 'i erbs' ; 'Len and/or Marge Hartnett' ; John Spaur Cc: 'Ahealey help' Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Healeys] California Healey Owners My Harley doesn't have a front plate. Does that count? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sun Oct 6 16:24:44 2019 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 18:24:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] SU Dashpot puzzle In-Reply-To: <000001d57c6c$199fe880$4cdfb980$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d57c6c$199fe880$4cdfb980$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Simon I thought I had written to you about the ?shoulder? issue previously but I don?t see it in my mailbox. The ?shoulder? is really where the dash pot vent is located. Some SU?s have none, but have a vented cap, some have one internal vent and some have two. Since this vent is a connection to suction chamber for the small chamber above the oil damper just under the cap, it would appear that the use of more than one vent has a bearing on the efficient operation of the SU on that engine or application. When the engine is cranking or running, the flow of air through the SU carb body reduces the pressure (lower than atmospheric, suction) in the suction chamber or dash pot. On most SU?s there is a set of holes above where the carb and air cleaner are joined. Those holes ultimately connect to the inside of the suction chamber. That reduced pressure slightly raises the piston and richens the air fuel mixture. Much like our 100 starts much easier when cold by not only pulling the choke by lightly pressing on the gas pedal. I have searched through many SU manuals and various write-ups on SU carbs and this particular aspect of the SU?s does not seem to be a topic of concern or discussion. Suspect that the vents, both size and number, have a lot to do with meeting the design specs for the application. The piston drop is one that comes to mind. How fast does the piston fall to idle when the driver is off the throttle? The spring size probably is the biggest factor but pressures inside and outside the carb has some bearing. The Engineer in me wants to know the answers but the retired guy in me says I don?t need to know. What I do need to adhere to is the original design of the parts. IE: If there is a gasket on the air cleaner /carb interface originally, is it there and fit correctly? If there are holes on the carb body, either for fuel or air flow are they clean/unobstructed. Whether your HD6?s had a single or double suction chamber vent, I have yet to find the answer. I do suspect that if they are supposed to have single vents but now has double vents, something may not work as designed. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 1:33 PM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] SU Dashpot puzzle Here?s one for the technoctats:- You may have noticed my posts about swapping from two-shouldered to single-shouldered dashpots. I did it because having two of one and one of the other was irritating, not because I thought there?d be any changes. So, I swapped the offending two and that gave me three HD6s, all with one shoulder. Car started on the choke, same as normal. Seemingly! However, doing the garden hose in one ear trick revealed that the rear carb, always single shouldered, was making less intake hiss than the other recently added pair. Easily rectified. I took the car out this afternoon. Started fine and ran well. But, if I eased off, the revs dropped and the engine cut out. Also, there was quite a lot of popping and f**ting on the overrun. So, on my return, I gave the front two carbs about half a turn up on the slow idle screws. This, quite small adjustment really, seemed to cure it and even to raise the idle rather higher than I like. Adjusted down quarter of a turn and all seems well. Questions:- beyond the obvious ? ie that changing dashpots does make a difference after all ? what is going on? Why was there a change? (Plainly, I swapped needles and springs when I swapped dashpots so I?ve got all the same in the carbs?.the ones that I had all along). Any ideas? Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sun Oct 6 17:28:46 2019 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 00:28:46 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Start them young. Message-ID: <000501d57c9d$cdf4a650$69ddf2f0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Grandson. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lay the other wires along the snake and wrap the whole mess with electrical tape.Have some one maintain steady pressure on the wires using the snake and then some one else feeds the trafficator wires and assembly in from the steering wheel end. It sounds a whole lot more complex than actually doing it though.....................??? Al -- Albert Seminatore Mountain Falls, Pahrump, NV eMail:? alsemus1 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sun Oct 6 19:19:38 2019 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 21:19:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Start them young. In-Reply-To: <000501d57c9d$cdf4a650$69ddf2f0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000501d57c9d$cdf4a650$69ddf2f0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: And this is what you get when a son finds out about Austin Healeys that go really fast at a young age. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 9:05 PM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Start them young. Grandson. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: A0FD5EF0A07B4EDFB155A544414CDCC1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 276628 bytes Desc: not available URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Sun Oct 6 19:31:21 2019 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 01:31:21 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Start them young. Message-ID: Cute ! My grandson loves mine as well but nanny rules don?t allow him to ride in the car as seatbelts are not correct for kiddie seats. Back in the late 60?s and 70?s I would take my son to the track in a crib in the back of my Porsche 911 in his bassinet. Today I would be sent to jail for 20 years for that. Now he is my primary mechanic on my cars Regards, Richard Of KY BN7 440 And other stuff > On Oct 6, 2019, at 20:33, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com wrote: > > ?Grandson. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com > From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Oct 6 20:17:53 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 19:17:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Start them young. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I taught my son to drive in my BJ8, then took him on a long road trip to get some experience (wouldn't take his driver's test in it, though). He's clean-shaven now, serving on a Navy cruiser in the South China Sea. Bob On 10/6/2019 6:31 PM, Richard Collins wrote: > Cute ! My grandson loves mine as well but nanny rules don?t allow him to ride in the car as seatbelts are not correct for kiddie seats. > Back in the late 60?s and 70?s I would take my son to the track in a crib in the back of my Porsche 911 in his bassinet. Today I would be sent to jail for 20 years for that. > Now he is my primary mechanic on my cars > Regards, > Richard Of KY > BN7 440 > And other stuff > >> On Oct 6, 2019, at 20:33, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com wrote: >> >> ?Grandson. >> _______________________________________________ >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 7 00:25:54 2019 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2019 23:25:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008201d57cd8$1345cf60$39d16e20$@sbcglobal.net> No on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps probably are not associated with the pump. John Spaur ?62 BT7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump Howdy all, Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine from Moss? There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced my pump as preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I am still chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift certificate for Moss and that I would replace the pump on the off chance it is my problem. The issue was with the County pumps. Wish I could find my original one and rebuild it... Thanks Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chucknsueo at aol.com Mon Oct 7 03:54:40 2019 From: chucknsueo at aol.com (Chuck) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 05:54:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5F630AA9-B5F4-4F36-A4FD-84219C0FA51E@aol.com> I helped a friend replace the water pump on a 1964 BJ8 with a pump obtained from Moss Motors. The quality seemed to be OK, but it did not fit correctly. The flange of the pump interfered with the timing cover. I had to grind the water pump flange away slightly to get the clearance needed to install it. Once installed, it functioned OK. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 1:45 AM, i erbs wrote: > > Howdy all, > Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine from Moss? There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced my pump as preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I am still chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift certificate for Moss and that I would replace the pump on the off chance it is my problem. The issue was with the County pumps. Wish I could find my original one and rebuild it... > Thanks > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > ______________________________________________ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Oct 7 05:58:33 2019 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 07:58:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This may be of interest. http://www.netbug.net/blogmichael/2019/07/13/austin-healey-bj7-8-reproduction-water-pumps/ I have kits for both original types of 6 cylinder pumps if you need them. M On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 1:46 AM i erbs, wrote: > Howdy all, > Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine from Moss? > There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced my pump as > preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I am still > chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift certificate for Moss > and that I would replace the pump on the off chance it is my problem. The > issue was with the County pumps. Wish I could find my original one and > rebuild it... > Thanks > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB [image: MG] > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tomfelts at windstream.net Mon Oct 7 07:11:09 2019 From: tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 09:11:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Start them young. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <73416882.293827826.1570453869391.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> My daughter was introduced to my BJ8 when she was 10-----she now drives it to shows. Her son (13) and /i ave taken trips of 4 or 5 ours several times. He loves the car. tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 06 Oct 2019 22:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Start them young. I taught my son to drive in my BJ8, then took him on a long road trip to get some experience (wouldn't take his driver's test in it, though). He's clean-shaven now, serving on a Navy cruiser in the South China Sea. Bob On 10/6/2019 6:31 PM, Richard Collins wrote: > Cute ! My grandson loves mine as well but nanny rules don?t allow him to ride in the car as seatbelts are not correct for kiddie seats. > Back in the late 60?s and 70?s I would take my son to the track in a crib in the back of my Porsche 911 in his bassinet. Today I would be sent to jail for 20 years for that. > Now he is my primary mechanic on my cars > Regards, > Richard Of KY > BN7 440 > And other stuff > >> On Oct 6, 2019, at 20:33, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com wrote: >> >> ?Grandson. >> _______________________________________________ >> From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 7 07:44:47 2019 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 13:44:47 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump In-Reply-To: <008201d57cd8$1345cf60$39d16e20$@sbcglobal.net> References: <008201d57cd8$1345cf60$39d16e20$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Couple of years ago I bought one out of the UK to avoid the issues others had with US sourced pumps. Turned out it was the same mfg. fit ok however and still works. Regards, Richard of KY BN7 440 On Oct 7, 2019, at 02:26, John Spaur wrote: ? No on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps probably are not associated with the pump. John Spaur ?62 BT7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump Howdy all, Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine from Moss? There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced my pump as preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I am still chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift certificate for Moss and that I would replace the pump on the off chance it is my problem. The issue was with the County pumps. Wish I could find my original one and rebuild it... Thanks Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Mon Oct 7 08:14:17 2019 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 15:14:17 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump In-Reply-To: References: <008201d57cd8$1345cf60$39d16e20$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <000001d57d19$826e78b0$874b6a10$@alexarevel.plus.com> I had a leaky pump and bought a kit from Michael. Worked well. You really need a BIG VICE or a press?. I?ve never heard anything better than ?it?s lasted so far? with reference to County pumps. When I was looking at my options and asking around, I found most of UK suppliers to be strangely reticent as to the manufacturer of their pumps. None of them failed a straight ?Is it a County pump? Yes or no!?, but there was an amusing reluctance? Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Richard Collins Sent: 07 October 2019 14:45 To: John Spaur Cc: Ahealey help ; i erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] moss water pump Couple of years ago I bought one out of the UK to avoid the issues others had with US sourced pumps. Turned out it was the same mfg. fit ok however and still works. Regards, Richard of KY BN7 440 On Oct 7, 2019, at 02:26, John Spaur > wrote: ? No on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps probably are not associated with the pump. John Spaur ?62 BT7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM To: Ahealey help > Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump Howdy all, Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine from Moss? There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced my pump as preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I am still chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift certificate for Moss and that I would replace the pump on the off chance it is my problem. The issue was with the County pumps. Wish I could find my original one and rebuild it... Thanks Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 7 08:30:21 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 07:30:21 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump In-Reply-To: <000001d57d19$826e78b0$874b6a10$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <008201d57cd8$1345cf60$39d16e20$@sbcglobal.net> <000001d57d19$826e78b0$874b6a10$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <174bdc6b-9759-19e6-1ba2-0aae7d795d6f@comcast.net> I believe the pumps now have 'County' cast into their bodies (but I'm not sure). My experience(s) with County pumps may have been the most egregious: One failed immediately after install--and caused my fan to penetrate my radiator--and the second was failed out-of-the box.? In both cases, the shaft broke/was broken clean in two.? I'm not a metallurgist, but it appeared to me the crystalline structure of the 'steel' didn't look right.? My take now is if the pump works for a few hours, it will likely last for a while, but County used a really cheap and sub-optimal type of seal, and you likely won't get the usual 50-100K miles out of their pumps. I was informed by a knowledgeable source--former head of Cust. Serv. at Moss--that the original owner of County died suddenly, and whoever took over didn't give a flying fig (my term, suitable for family audiences) about quality.? All bets off, of course, if County has somehow upped their game in the last few years.?? When I had my BJ8 engine rebuilt, all the 'usual suspects' only sold County pistons, so I sprung for DWM's*. Get one of Michael's kits (or see if you can talk him into rebuilding one for you ;). Bob * If I'd known SteveG had the correct build specs for oversized pistons from a reputable supplier--Venolia IIRC--I would have gone that route. On 10/7/2019 7:14 AM, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com wrote: > > I had a leaky pump and bought a kit from Michael. Worked well. You > really need a BIG VICE or a press?. > > I?ve never heard anything better than ?it?s lasted so far? with > reference to County pumps. When I was looking at my options and asking > around, I found most of UK suppliers to be strangely reticent as to > the manufacturer of their pumps. None of them failed a straight ?Is it > a County pump? Yes or no!?, but there was an amusing reluctance? > > Simon > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Richard > Collins > *Sent:* 07 October 2019 14:45 > *To:* John Spaur > *Cc:* Ahealey help ; i erbs > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] moss water pump > > Couple of years ago I bought one out of the UK to avoid the issues > others had with US sourced pumps. Turned out it was the same mfg. fit > ok however and still works. > > Regards, > > Richard of KY > > BN7 440 > > > > On Oct 7, 2019, at 02:26, John Spaur > wrote: > > ? > > No on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps probably > are not associated with the pump. > > John Spaur > > ?62 BT7 > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf > Of *i erbs > *Sent:* Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM > *To:* Ahealey help > > *Subject:* [Healeys] moss water pump > > Howdy all, > > ?Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine > from Moss? There were comments about quality in the past. I > replaced my pump as preventative maintenance about 10 years ago > and 3000 miles. I am still chasing some high running temps. I was > given a gift certificate?for Moss and that I would?replace the > pump on the off chance it is my problem. The issue was with the > County pumps. Wish I could?find my original one and rebuild it... > > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > > Portland,OR > > ? ? _______ ? ? ?_______ > ? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > > ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes > > 1967 MGB MG > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 7 09:27:08 2019 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 15:27:08 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump In-Reply-To: <000001d57d19$826e78b0$874b6a10$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d57d19$826e78b0$874b6a10$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Yep; It was a County, from China...likely the only source. I had plans to rebuild mine but it broke apart in the process even being careful, sort of. Regards, Richard C On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:14, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com wrote: ? I had a leaky pump and bought a kit from Michael. Worked well. You really need a BIG VICE or a press?. I?ve never heard anything better than ?it?s lasted so far? with reference to County pumps. When I was looking at my options and asking around, I found most of UK suppliers to be strangely reticent as to the manufacturer of their pumps. None of them failed a straight ?Is it a County pump? Yes or no!?, but there was an amusing reluctance? Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Richard Collins Sent: 07 October 2019 14:45 To: John Spaur Cc: Ahealey help ; i erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] moss water pump Couple of years ago I bought one out of the UK to avoid the issues others had with US sourced pumps. Turned out it was the same mfg. fit ok however and still works. Regards, Richard of KY BN7 440 On Oct 7, 2019, at 02:26, John Spaur > wrote: ? No on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps probably are not associated with the pump. John Spaur ?62 BT7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM To: Ahealey help > Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump Howdy all, Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine from Moss? There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced my pump as preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I am still chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift certificate for Moss and that I would replace the pump on the off chance it is my problem. The issue was with the County pumps. Wish I could find my original one and rebuild it... Thanks Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eschulz at frontiernet.net Mon Oct 7 10:06:23 2019 From: eschulz at frontiernet.net (Elton Schulz) Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2019 12:06:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5D9B627F.1030202@frontiernet.net> I installed a water pump from Moss 3 years ago on my BJ7. After approx 3000 miles it is still working fine. No issues with the installation. Elton On 10/7/2019 1:45 AM, i erbs wrote: > Howdy all, > Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine from > Moss? There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced my > pump as preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I > am still chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift > certificate for Moss and that I would replace the pump on the off > chance it is my problem. The issue was with the County pumps. Wish I > could find my original one and rebuild it... > Thanks > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB MG > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eschulz at frontiernet.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Mon Oct 7 11:18:46 2019 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 18:18:46 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump In-Reply-To: References: <000001d57d19$826e78b0$874b6a10$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <000f01d57d33$48364d20$d8a2e760$@alexarevel.plus.com> I think they?re Indian which is not really a tick in the box! For interest:- When I got my kit from Michael I hadn?t told him which pump I had, so the more usual kit arrived. My error. I decided to keep that and bought the correct one which I fitted. I now had the other kit, but no dead pump. A friend gave me several and I rebuilt one. So that?s a spare pump now. Being curious, I looked around on eBay and found that people were selling NOS pumps from Westminsters for MUCH less than the NOS Healey ones ever go for. Change the pulley and hey presto! (Being sure to check you?re buying the right pump body!) Simon From: Richard Collins Sent: 07 October 2019 16:27 To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Cc: John Spaur ; Ahealey help ; i erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] moss water pump Yep; It was a County, from China...likely the only source. I had plans to rebuild mine but it broke apart in the process even being careful, sort of. Regards, Richard C On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:14, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com wrote: ? I had a leaky pump and bought a kit from Michael. Worked well. You really need a BIG VICE or a press?. I?ve never heard anything better than ?it?s lasted so far? with reference to County pumps. When I was looking at my options and asking around, I found most of UK suppliers to be strangely reticent as to the manufacturer of their pumps. None of them failed a straight ?Is it a County pump? Yes or no!?, but there was an amusing reluctance? Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Richard Collins Sent: 07 October 2019 14:45 To: John Spaur Cc: Ahealey help ; i erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] moss water pump Couple of years ago I bought one out of the UK to avoid the issues others had with US sourced pumps. Turned out it was the same mfg. fit ok however and still works. Regards, Richard of KY BN7 440 On Oct 7, 2019, at 02:26, John Spaur > wrote: ? No on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps probably are not associated with the pump. John Spaur ?62 BT7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM To: Ahealey help > Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump Howdy all, Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine from Moss? There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced my pump as preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I am still chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift certificate for Moss and that I would replace the pump on the off chance it is my problem. The issue was with the County pumps. Wish I could find my original one and rebuild it... Thanks Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Mon Oct 7 11:50:12 2019 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 13:50:12 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes In-Reply-To: <1842439255.4458283.1570404756256@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1842439255.4458283.1570404756256@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Actually Keith the staggered bullets wrapped in no more than 2 layers of masking tape are considerably smaller in diameter than the inside of the tube. With that carefully done (use brake clean to remove the oil before starting) and the length of mechanics wire secured to the bottom 1 or 2 bullets you will find that the harness will pull through effortlessly. M On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 8:31 PM Keith Pennell via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi Al. Thank you for the reply. Are you aware that the inside diameter > of the stator tube is approx.1/4 inch? All those parts (snake, wires lying > along the snake and tape) will surely be greater than 1/4. > Keith > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Albert Seminatore > To: llennep ; Healey List > Sent: Sun, Oct 6, 2019 4:15 pm > Subject: Traffiator install woes > > You can buy an electrical snake from Home Depot. thread it all the way up > through the column and out through the steering wheel hub. Fold one of the > bullet connectors over the end to the snake. Lay the other wires along the > snake and wrap the whole mess with electrical tape. > Have some one maintain steady pressure on the wires using the snake and > then some one else feeds the trafficator wires and assembly in from the > steering wheel end. > > It sounds a whole lot more complex than actually doing it though. > .................... 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URL: From fredwescoe at gmail.com Mon Oct 7 15:59:41 2019 From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 17:59:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump In-Reply-To: <000f01d57d33$48364d20$d8a2e760$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d57d19$826e78b0$874b6a10$@alexarevel.plus.com> <000f01d57d33$48364d20$d8a2e760$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Hi gang, This is not a shot over Michael's bow in any sense. I just want to let everyone know that the original water pump contains or will except Massey Ferguson Water pump internals. In an emergency, I had the water pump on my 63 BJ7 rebuilt by a John Deere dealer. The dealer repair man said "no problem, it's a Massey Ferguson pump". It took him less than an hour. The pump worked flawlessly for many years. Try rebuilding your original pump instead of supporting County. They may also be able to rebuild a County pump properly. Never hurts to ask. If Michael can't rebuild it for you, check with your local tractor repair place. Fred 66BJ8 On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 1:19 PM wrote: > I think they?re Indian which is not really a tick in the box! > > For interest:- > > When I got my kit from Michael I hadn?t told him which pump I had, so the > more usual kit arrived. My error. > > I decided to keep that and bought the correct one which I fitted. > > I now had the other kit, but no dead pump. A friend gave me several and I > rebuilt one. So that?s a spare pump now. > > Being curious, I looked around on eBay and found that people were selling > NOS pumps from Westminsters for MUCH less than the NOS Healey ones ever go > for. Change the pulley and hey presto! > > (Being sure to check you?re buying the right pump body!) > > Simon > > > > *From:* Richard Collins > *Sent:* 07 October 2019 16:27 > *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > *Cc:* John Spaur ; Ahealey help < > healeys at autox.team.net>; i erbs > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] moss water pump > > > > Yep; > > It was a County, from China...likely the only source. > > I had plans to rebuild mine but it broke apart in the process even being > careful, sort of. > > Regards, > > Richard C > > > > > > On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:14, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com < > simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> wrote: > > ? > > I had a leaky pump and bought a kit from Michael. Worked well. You really > need a BIG VICE or a press?. > > I?ve never heard anything better than ?it?s lasted so far? with reference > to County pumps. When I was looking at my options and asking around, I > found most of UK suppliers to be strangely reticent as to the manufacturer > of their pumps. None of them failed a straight ?Is it a County pump? Yes or > no!?, but there was an amusing reluctance? > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Richard > Collins > *Sent:* 07 October 2019 14:45 > *To:* John Spaur > *Cc:* Ahealey help ; i erbs > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] moss water pump > > > > Couple of years ago I bought one out of the UK to avoid the issues others > had with US sourced pumps. Turned out it was the same mfg. fit ok however > and still works. > > Regards, > > Richard of KY > > BN7 440 > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 2019, at 02:26, John Spaur wrote: > > ? > > No on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps probably are not > associated with the pump. > > > > John Spaur > > ?62 BT7 > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > ] *On Behalf Of *i erbs > *Sent:* Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM > *To:* Ahealey help > *Subject:* [Healeys] moss water pump > > > > Howdy all, > > Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine from Moss? > There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced my pump as > preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I am still > chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift certificate for Moss > and that I would replace the pump on the off chance it is my problem. The > issue was with the County pumps. Wish I could find my original one and > rebuild it... > > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > > Portland,OR > > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > > BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > > > > 1967 MGB [image: Image removed by sender. MG] > > > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fredwescoe at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:59 PM Fred Wescoe wrote: > Hi gang, > > This is not a shot over Michael's bow in any sense. > > I just want to let everyone know that the original water pump contains or > will except Massey Ferguson Water pump internals. > > In an emergency, I had the water pump on my 63 BJ7 rebuilt by a John Deere > dealer. The dealer repair man said "no problem, it's a Massey Ferguson > pump". It took him less than an hour. The pump worked flawlessly for many > years. Try rebuilding your original pump instead of supporting County. > They may also be able to rebuild a County pump properly. Never hurts to > ask. > > If Michael can't rebuild it for you, check with your local tractor repair > place. > > Fred > 66BJ8 > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 1:19 PM wrote: > >> I think they?re Indian which is not really a tick in the box! >> >> For interest:- >> >> When I got my kit from Michael I hadn?t told him which pump I had, so the >> more usual kit arrived. My error. >> >> I decided to keep that and bought the correct one which I fitted. >> >> I now had the other kit, but no dead pump. A friend gave me several and I >> rebuilt one. So that?s a spare pump now. >> >> Being curious, I looked around on eBay and found that people were selling >> NOS pumps from Westminsters for MUCH less than the NOS Healey ones ever go >> for. Change the pulley and hey presto! >> >> (Being sure to check you?re buying the right pump body!) >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> *From:* Richard Collins >> *Sent:* 07 October 2019 16:27 >> *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com >> *Cc:* John Spaur ; Ahealey help < >> healeys at autox.team.net>; i erbs >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] moss water pump >> >> >> >> Yep; >> >> It was a County, from China...likely the only source. >> >> I had plans to rebuild mine but it broke apart in the process even being >> careful, sort of. >> >> Regards, >> >> Richard C >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:14, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com < >> simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> wrote: >> >> ? >> >> I had a leaky pump and bought a kit from Michael. Worked well. You really >> need a BIG VICE or a press?. >> >> I?ve never heard anything better than ?it?s lasted so far? with reference >> to County pumps. When I was looking at my options and asking around, I >> found most of UK suppliers to be strangely reticent as to the manufacturer >> of their pumps. None of them failed a straight ?Is it a County pump? Yes or >> no!?, but there was an amusing reluctance? >> >> Simon >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Richard >> Collins >> *Sent:* 07 October 2019 14:45 >> *To:* John Spaur >> *Cc:* Ahealey help ; i erbs >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] moss water pump >> >> >> >> Couple of years ago I bought one out of the UK to avoid the issues others >> had with US sourced pumps. Turned out it was the same mfg. fit ok however >> and still works. >> >> Regards, >> >> Richard of KY >> >> BN7 440 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 7, 2019, at 02:26, John Spaur wrote: >> >> ? >> >> No on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps probably are not >> associated with the pump. >> >> >> >> John Spaur >> >> ?62 BT7 >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net >> ] *On Behalf Of *i erbs >> *Sent:* Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM >> *To:* Ahealey help >> *Subject:* [Healeys] moss water pump >> >> >> >> Howdy all, >> >> Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine from >> Moss? There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced my pump as >> preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I am still >> chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift certificate for Moss >> and that I would replace the pump on the off chance it is my problem. The >> issue was with the County pumps. Wish I could find my original one and >> rebuild it... >> >> Thanks >> >> Ira Erbs >> >> Portland,OR >> >> _______ _______ >> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) >> (_________________________) >> >> BT7 engine and disk brakes >> >> >> >> >> >> 1967 MGB [image: Image removed by sender. MG] >> >> >> >> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti >> >> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/fredwescoe at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Mon Oct 7 21:32:37 2019 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 03:32:37 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump In-Reply-To: References: <000001d57d19$826e78b0$874b6a10$@alexarevel.plus.com> <000f01d57d33$48364d20$d8a2e760$@alexarevel.plus.com>, Message-ID: I have sent a pump for a 100-6 to be rebuilt at this place and they did a great job, not cheap but a great job on it. John Stuart Power Brake 349 Millen Rd. N, Stoney Creek, Ontario PH: 905-662-7274 Jean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Fred Wescoe Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 4:59:41 PM To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Cc: Ahealey help ; i erbs Subject: Re: [Healeys] moss water pump Hi gang, This is not a shot over Michael's bow in any sense. I just want to let everyone know that the original water pump contains or will except Massey Ferguson Water pump internals. In an emergency, I had the water pump on my 63 BJ7 rebuilt by a John Deere dealer. The dealer repair man said "no problem, it's a Massey Ferguson pump". It took him less than an hour. The pump worked flawlessly for many years. Try rebuilding your original pump instead of supporting County. They may also be able to rebuild a County pump properly. Never hurts to ask. If Michael can't rebuild it for you, check with your local tractor repair place. Fred 66BJ8 On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 1:19 PM > wrote: I think they?re Indian which is not really a tick in the box! For interest:- When I got my kit from Michael I hadn?t told him which pump I had, so the more usual kit arrived. My error. I decided to keep that and bought the correct one which I fitted. I now had the other kit, but no dead pump. A friend gave me several and I rebuilt one. So that?s a spare pump now. Being curious, I looked around on eBay and found that people were selling NOS pumps from Westminsters for MUCH less than the NOS Healey ones ever go for. Change the pulley and hey presto! (Being sure to check you?re buying the right pump body!) Simon From: Richard Collins > Sent: 07 October 2019 16:27 To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Cc: John Spaur >; Ahealey help >; i erbs > Subject: Re: [Healeys] moss water pump Yep; It was a County, from China...likely the only source. I had plans to rebuild mine but it broke apart in the process even being careful, sort of. Regards, Richard C On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:14, simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com > wrote: ? I had a leaky pump and bought a kit from Michael. Worked well. You really need a BIG VICE or a press?. I?ve never heard anything better than ?it?s lasted so far? with reference to County pumps. When I was looking at my options and asking around, I found most of UK suppliers to be strangely reticent as to the manufacturer of their pumps. None of them failed a straight ?Is it a County pump? Yes or no!?, but there was an amusing reluctance? Simon From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Richard Collins Sent: 07 October 2019 14:45 To: John Spaur > Cc: Ahealey help >; i erbs > Subject: Re: [Healeys] moss water pump Couple of years ago I bought one out of the UK to avoid the issues others had with US sourced pumps. Turned out it was the same mfg. fit ok however and still works. Regards, Richard of KY BN7 440 On Oct 7, 2019, at 02:26, John Spaur > wrote: ? No on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps probably are not associated with the pump. John Spaur ?62 BT7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM To: Ahealey help > Subject: [Healeys] moss water pump Howdy all, Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine from Moss? There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced my pump as preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I am still chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift certificate for Moss and that I would replace the pump on the off chance it is my problem. The issue was with the County pumps. Wish I could find my original one and rebuild it... Thanks Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [Image removed by sender. MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. 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What's the >> secret? >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Oct 8 05:23:36 2019 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 07:23:36 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Reflector installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wrap a thin but strong twine or wire around the rubber (in the groove that fits on the shroud),feed the twine through the hole, push the rubber against the opening in the shroud and pull the twine from the trunk . Should pop into place. Perry Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:10 PM, richard mayor wrote: > > ? > I can't get the reflectors installed in the rear shroud. What's the secret? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > From llennep at verizon.net Tue Oct 8 08:20:36 2019 From: llennep at verizon.net (Keith Pennell) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 14:20:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes References: <1842831148.5307841.1570544436939.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1842831148.5307841.1570544436939@mail.yahoo.com> Hello Everybody! Thought I would give a followup on this.? First thanks to those of you who replied.? I found the suggestions helpful.? I wound up making numerous attempts with many variations but none worked so well.? I will not go into those.? I finally did what I thought of early in the task but was trying to avoid removing bullets.? I understand there are other ways which have worked for several of you but here is what I did.? Maybe it will help someone in the future. First, remove the shortest bullet using a solder gun to melt the solder.? (You might try to skip this step and see how it goes.)? Push a stiff elec wire (I used a 14 or 16 gauge) up the stator tube from the front.? You can go through the grill.? Once it is through remove the bullet from the longest wire in the har and solder the pull wire to the wire.? Feed/push/pull the har through the tube.? Once it is out pull the end through the grill, place a small board on the splash apron and resolder the two bullets.? Done! Note:? If you changed the orientation of the stator tube you will need to reposition it with slot down so the teats in the traf assembly will slide into it. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Pennell via Healeys To: healeys Sent: Fri, Oct 4, 2019 6:28 pm Subject: [Healeys] Traffiator install woes Well "assembly is the reverse of disassembly" right?? Managed to remove the wiring harness in the manner I have done times before.? That is, attaching a string to the har before pulling it up through the stator tube.? Problem is cannot get har back down through the tube.? After numerous attempts the string broke.? Does not help that the cloth insulation is deteriorated and missing on about the last foot of the har. Any suggestions how to proceedKeith_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Tue Oct 8 15:58:45 2019 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 17:58:45 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Hand Brake Cable Message-ID: Listers Working on a project. Anyone know of an British car or truck application that uses a similar but longer version of the hand brake cable used on the Austin Healey cars. Need the same type ends, yoke on one end and threaded stud on the other. Looking for 58 inches overall or longer. Any help appreciated. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Tue Oct 8 16:36:11 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 09:36:11 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Hand Brake Cable In-Reply-To: <20191008215906.073A2A1847@autox.team.net> References: <20191008215906.073A2A1847@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <006301d57e28$cab133a0$60139ae0$@tpg.com.au> Hello Perry Our Healey Duncan has that sort of handbrake cable, plus it divides into two towards the end. There are people out there that will make these for you. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Perry via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2019 8:59 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Hand Brake Cable Listers Working on a project. Anyone know of an British car or truck application that uses a similar but longer version of the hand brake cable used on the Austin Healey cars. Need the same type ends, yoke on one end and threaded stud on the other. Looking for 58 inches overall or longer. Any help appreciated. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Larry at patersondesign.ca Tue Oct 8 20:27:12 2019 From: Larry at patersondesign.ca (Larry Paterson) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2019 20:27:12 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Hand Brake Cable In-Reply-To: <006301d57e28$cab133a0$60139ae0$@tpg.com.au> References: <20191008215906.073A2A1847@autox.team.net> <006301d57e28$cab133a0$60139ae0$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <000e01d57e49$10f56e10$32e04a30$@ca> Hi Perry, 1950?s Austin A40?s also have the same set up. Larry Paterson 100M, BN7, A40 pickup From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 4:36 PM To: 'Perry'; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hand Brake Cable Hello Perry Our Healey Duncan has that sort of handbrake cable, plus it divides into two towards the end. There are people out there that will make these for you. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Perry via Healeys Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2019 8:59 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Hand Brake Cable Listers Working on a project. Anyone know of an British car or truck application that uses a similar but longer version of the hand brake cable used on the Austin Healey cars. Need the same type ends, yoke on one end and threaded stud on the other. Looking for 58 inches overall or longer. Any help appreciated. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Virus-free. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Tue Oct 8 23:19:35 2019 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=) Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2019 22:19:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?moss_water_pump?= Message-ID: <20191009051935.2027.qmail@server278.com> have had a county water pump on the BJ8 for many years with no problems. sometimes i just get lucky. From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Wed Oct 9 06:00:30 2019 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 13:00:30 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Water pump Message-ID: <000001d57e99$272686b0$75739410$@alexarevel.plus.com> Wasn't someone looking for a water pump to rebuild? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Austin-Healey-3000-Water-Pump/233359683044?hash=i tem3655522de4:g:xnwAAOSwVR9djeNY -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelsalter at gmail.com Wed Oct 9 06:13:56 2019 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 08:13:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Water pump In-Reply-To: <000001d57e99$272686b0$75739410$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d57e99$272686b0$75739410$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: I suspect that pump is a "repop". If you look carefully the shaft doesn't come all the way through the impeller (impellor). If it is repro a standard pump overhaul kit won't work. M On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 8:00 AM , wrote: > Wasn?t someone looking for a water pump to rebuild? > > > https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Austin-Healey-3000-Water-Pump/233359683044?hash=item3655522de4:g:xnwAAOSwVR9djeNY > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Jerry Adams BN 2 Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:18 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > > ? > I suspect that pump is a "repop". > If you look carefully the shaft doesn't come all the way through the impeller (impellor). > If it is repro a standard pump overhaul kit won't work. > > M > >> On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 8:00 AM , wrote: >> Wasn?t someone looking for a water pump to rebuild? >> >> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Austin-Healey-3000-Water-Pump/233359683044?hash=item3655522de4:g:xnwAAOSwVR9djeNY >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cjerryadams at yahoo.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Besides the > pulley. > > Jerry Adams > BN 2 > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:18 AM, Michael Salter > wrote: > > ? > I suspect that pump is a "repop". > If you look carefully the shaft doesn't come all the way through the > impeller (impellor). > If it is repro a standard pump overhaul kit won't work. > > M > > On Wed, Oct 9, 2019, 8:00 AM , wrote: > >> Wasn?t someone looking for a water pump to rebuild? >> >> >> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Austin-Healey-3000-Water-Pump/233359683044?hash=item3655522de4:g:xnwAAOSwVR9djeNY >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cjerryadams at yahoo.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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John Spaur ?62 BT7 From: Michael Salter [mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:44 AM To: john spaur Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Water pump rebuild The bearings and seals can be very hard to find unless Mike Salter still has a stash. He does .... ??? M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Fri Oct 11 09:34:09 2019 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:34:09 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] BN1 Rear Axle Stamped Info Message-ID: Looking at what appears to be an early BN1 rear axle with 8/33 (4.125) ring gear. It has stepped diameter axle tubes, larger near the diff and smaller towards the hub. Stamped with the 8 and 33 on the left, upper side of tube where the u bolts are located. Also has an H with 3941 or 3911 stamped (hard to tell which number as it is stamped on top of weld splatter) adjacent to the 8 over 33. 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With knowledge of his situation he spent his last active six months driving his two own race cars on all the great East Coast trips, traveling with his wife and career-long crew chief.I'm doubting these two observations suggest a trend of engine builders dying of cancer; the real trend is that so many of these great craftsmen ? engine builders, machine shop gurus, generator/starter specialists, paint and body experts and so forth -- are reaching the ends of their natural lives with no younger people to replace them.Sic transit gloria mundi. Gary -Today's Topics: ? 1. Idle oil pressure. RIP Uncle Pete (Chris Dimmock) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:45:14 +1100 From: Chris Dimmock To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Idle oil pressure. RIP Uncle Pete Message-ID: <8F0B27B8-D0BD-4AE2-8526-6C9314E96E7A at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A few years back, there was a discussion here on idle oil pressure. This has been a sad week, "Uncle" Pete Molloy lost his battle with brain cancer and passed away at 84 years. Uncle Pete built my Healey 3000 engine 21 years ago, almost to the day, and it still has more pull than a busload of schoolboys. And it's oil pressure is still awesome. Here's a pic. Rest In Peace Uncle Pete. https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/10/10/racing-genius-peter-molloy-loses-battle-with-brain-tumour/ Chris Dimmock -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Sat Oct 12 15:23:49 2019 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 14:23:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Reflector installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At first I used soapy water but it was still very hard trying to pull the cord. Then I put some vaseline on the cord and it worked a lot easier. But, I still had to use gloves because the cord was cutting into my hand as I pulled. On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 4:23 AM Perry Small wrote: > Wrap a thin but strong twine or wire around the rubber (in the groove that > fits on the shroud),feed the twine through the hole, push the rubber > against the opening in the shroud and pull the twine from the trunk . > Should pop into place. > Perry > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:10 PM, richard mayor > wrote: > > > > ? > > I can't get the reflectors installed in the rear shroud. What's the > secret? > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyguy at aol.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Sat Oct 12 17:03:50 2019 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2019 19:03:50 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Reflector installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The rubber used in many of the rubber bits that we use to restore/repair our cars vary greatly with regard to deflection/compression (stiffness) so some parts are much easier to install then others. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: richard mayor At first I used soapy water but it was still very hard trying to pull the cord.? Then I put some vaseline on the cord and it worked a lot easier.? But, I still had to use gloves because the cord was cutting into my hand as I pulled. ? wrote: Wrap a thin but strong twine or wire around the rubber (in the groove that fits on the shroud),feed the twine through the hole,? push the rubber against the opening in the shroud and pull the twine from the trunk . Should pop into place. Perry wrote: ?> I can't get the reflectors installed in the rear shroud.? What's the secret? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Tue Oct 15 15:10:25 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 08:10:25 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] FW: US Marshals News Release: US Marshals auctioning collection of 149 classic, luxury vehicles from California federal case involving DC Solar In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00aa01d5839c$f83271d0$e8975570$@tpg.com.au> Hello I suspect that the 3000 Mk1 listed will probably go for a lot less than the current market. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Donahue, Lynzey (USMS) [mailto:Lynne.Donahue at usdoj.gov] Sent: Wednesday, 16 October 2019 7:56 AM To: Undisclosed recipients: Subject: US Marshals News Release: US Marshals auctioning collection of 149 classic, luxury vehicles from California federal case involving DC Solar http://www.usmarshals.gov/news/news_banner.jpg NEWS RELEASE For Immediate Release Oct. 15, 2019 Contact: Lynzey Donahue U.S. Marshals Office of Public Affairs 703-740-1640 lynne.donahue at usdoj.gov US Marshals auctioning collection of 149 classic, luxury vehicles from California federal case involving DC Solar Vehicles for sale include classic muscle cars, luxury vehicles and antiques from the 1920s and 1930s WASHINGTON - The U.S. Marshals are holding a live auction in Woodland, California, at 9 a.m. PDT Saturday, Oct. 26, for approximately 149 classic, luxury and performance vehicles from a federal civil case involving the owners of the defunct DC Solar company in the Eastern District of California. The auction will be held at Apple Towing, 550 N. Pioneer Ave., Woodland, CA 95776. The auction will also be simulcast on the web, so people can participate without having to attend in person. An auction preview will take place from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. Thursday, Oct. 24, and Friday, Oct. 25, at the same location as the auction. Prebidding is currently underway via the Apple Auctioneering Company website, www.appleauctioneeringco.com. "It is rare for the U.S. Marshals to hold an auction of such a stunning collection of vehicles," said Chief Deputy U.S. Marshal Lasha Boyden with the Sacramento office of the U.S. Marshals. "We've got classic 1960s Ford Mustangs, 1990s Humvees, a 1960 Austin-Healey, and even a 1978 Pontiac Trans Am that was owned by Burt Reynolds as a memento of the car he drove in the movie 'Smokey and the Bandit.'" >From l to r: 1978 "Burt Reynolds" Pontiac Trans Am, lot 235, (mileage 3,394); 1965 Ford Mustang, lot 191, (mileage 1,522) >From l to r: 1960 Austin-Healey, lot 105, (mileage: 71,701); 1950 Chevrolet pickup, lot 120, (mileage: 1,380) The vehicles are being sold pursuant to an interlocutory sale order in the federal case United States v. 2011 BMW 328i, et al., case number 19-mc-00053 in the Eastern District of California. For more information and photos: Auction website: www.appleauctioneeringco.com The Department of Justice Asset Forfeiture Program is a key component of the federal government's law enforcement efforts to combat major criminal activity by disrupting and dismantling illegal enterprises, depriving criminals of the proceeds of illegal activity, deterring crime and restoring property to victims. The U.S. Marshals Service plays a critical role in identifying and evaluating assets that represent the proceeds of crime as well as efficiently managing and selling assets seized and forfeited by DOJ. www.usmarshals.gov ### -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The U.S. Marshals are holding a live auction in Woodland, California, at 9 a.m. PDT Saturday, Oct. 26, for approximately 149 classic, luxury and performance vehicles from a federal civil case involving the owners of the defunct DC Solar company in the Eastern District of California.The auction will be held at Apple Towing, 550 N. Pioneer Ave., Woodland, CA 95776. The auction will also be simulcast on the web, so people can participate without having to attend in person. An auction preview will take place from 8?a.m. to 4 p.m. Thursday, Oct. 24, and Friday, Oct. 25, at the same location as the auction. Prebidding is currently underway via the Apple Auctioneering Company website, www.appleauctioneeringco.com.?It is rare for the U.S. Marshals to hold an auction of such a stunning collection of vehicles,? said Chief Deputy U.S. Marshal Lasha Boyden with the Sacramento office of the U.S. Marshals. ?We?ve got classic 1960s Ford Mustangs, 1990s Humvees, a 1960 Austin-Healey, and even a 1978 Pontiac Trans Am that was owned by Burt Reynolds as a memento of the car he drove in the movie ?Smokey and the Bandit.?? ??From l to r: 1978 ?Burt Reynolds? Pontiac Trans Am, lot 235, (mileage 3,394); 1965 Ford Mustang, lot 191, (mileage 1,522)??From l to r: 1960 Austin-Healey, lot 105, (mileage: 71,701); 1950 Chevrolet pickup, lot 120, (mileage: 1,380)??The vehicles are being sold pursuant to an interlocutory sale order in the federal case United States v. 2011 BMW 328i, et al., case number 19-mc-00053 in the Eastern District of California.For more information and photos:Auction website: www.appleauctioneeringco.com The Department of Justice Asset Forfeiture Program is a key component of the federal government?s law enforcement efforts to combat major criminal activity by disrupting and dismantling illegal enterprises, depriving criminals of the proceeds of illegal activity, deterring crime and restoring property to victims. 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The U.S. Marshals are holding a live auction in Woodland, > California, at 9 a.m. PDT Saturday, Oct. 26, for approximately 149 classic, > luxury and performance vehicles from a federal civil case involving the > owners of the defunct DC Solar company in the Eastern District of > California. > > The auction will be held at Apple Towing, 550 N. Pioneer Ave., Woodland, > CA 95776. The auction will also be simulcast on the web, so people can > participate without having to attend in person. > > An auction preview will take place from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. Thursday, Oct. > 24, and Friday, Oct. 25, at the same location as the auction. Prebidding is > currently underway via the Apple Auctioneering Company website, > www.appleauctioneeringco.com. > > ?It is rare for the U.S. Marshals to hold an auction of such a stunning > collection of vehicles,? said Chief Deputy U.S. Marshal Lasha Boyden with > the Sacramento office of the U.S. Marshals. ?We?ve got classic 1960s Ford > Mustangs, 1990s Humvees, a 1960 Austin-Healey, and even a 1978 Pontiac > Trans Am that was owned by Burt Reynolds as a memento of the car he drove > in the movie ?Smokey and the Bandit.?? > > > > > > *From l to r: 1978 ?Burt Reynolds? Pontiac Trans Am, lot 235, (mileage > 3,394); 1965 Ford Mustang, lot 191, (mileage 1,522)* > > > > > > *From l to r: 1960 Austin-Healey, lot 105, (mileage: 71,701); 1950 > Chevrolet pickup, lot 120, (mileage: 1,380)* > > > > > > The vehicles are being sold pursuant to an interlocutory sale order in the > federal case *United States v. 2011 BMW 328i, et al., *case number > 19-mc-00053 in the Eastern District of California. > > *For more information and photos:* > > *Auction website*: www.appleauctioneeringco.com > > *The Department of Justice Asset Forfeiture Program is a key component of > the federal government?s law enforcement efforts to combat major criminal > activity by disrupting and dismantling illegal enterprises, depriving > criminals of the proceeds of illegal activity, deterring crime and > restoring property to victims. The U.S. Marshals Service plays a critical > role in identifying and evaluating assets that represent the proceeds of > crime as well as efficiently managing and selling assets seized and > forfeited by DOJ.* > > www.usmarshals.gov > > ### > > > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > > <#m_-1212218828768827108_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I was searching for information on Google about the recommended length the inner tachometer cable should protrude from the outer sheath at the instrument end as I am replacing the cable on my Bugeye.? The tachometer stopped working halfway home from the mechanic (R&R the Datsun transmission for bad synchros).? The very end of the inner cable broke off in the gear reduction drive unit at the back of the generator.? Before installing the new cable I seemed to remember that there was a caveat on how much the inner drive cable should protrude to prevent damage to the tachometer.? Too long and it would damage the instrument.? No telling where the repros are made these days.? I finally found the info from a reprint of an old Smiths manual on the Vintage British Cable web site. http://vintagebritishcables.com/images/ServiceInformation2.jpg? Lots of good info on this Canadian web site besides they make superior OEM style cables instead of the (Chinese) foreign crap we are used to from the usual suspects. Smiths Speedometer Cable, Smiths Tachometer Cable, British Custom Speedo Cable | | | | | | | | | | | Smiths Speedometer Cable, Smiths Tachometer Cable, British Custom Speedo... Authentic Smiths Speedometer Cable, Smiths Tachometer Cable. Best Quality Custom Speedo Cable, Custom Tach Cable... | | | Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgcharlie at comcast.net Wed Oct 16 11:49:09 2019 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 13:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Tach and Speedo Cables In-Reply-To: <885317615.2494437.1571245899398@mail.yahoo.com> References: <885317615.2494437.1571245899398.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <885317615.2494437.1571245899398@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2084655950.64720.1571248149955@connect.xfinity.com> Mike, I had a custom speedo cable made for my MG TD with Volvo Laycock overdrive transmission. It worked out great and excellent to work with on something uncommon like that. Charlie > On October 16, 2019 at 1:11 PM Michael MacLean wrote: > > I was searching for information on Google about the recommended length the inner tachometer cable should protrude from the outer sheath at the instrument end as I am replacing the cable on my Bugeye. The tachometer stopped working halfway home from the mechanic (R&R the Datsun transmission for bad synchros). The very end of the inner cable broke off in the gear reduction drive unit at the back of the generator. Before installing the new cable I seemed to remember that there was a caveat on how much the inner drive cable should protrude to prevent damage to the tachometer. Too long and it would damage the instrument. No telling where the repros are made these days. I finally found the info from a reprint of an old Smiths manual on the Vintage British Cable web site. http://vintagebritishcables.com/images/ServiceInformation2.jpg > Lots of good info on this Canadian web site besides they make superior OEM style cables instead of the (Chinese) foreign crap we are used to from the usual suspects. > > Smiths Speedometer Cable, Smiths Tachometer Cable, British Custom Speedo Cable http://vintagebritishcables.com/Smiths-Speedometer-Cable-SmithsTachometer-Cable.php > > > > > Smiths Speedometer Cable, Smiths Tachometer Cable, British Custom Speedo... > > Authentic Smiths Speedometer Cable, Smiths Tachometer Cable. Best Quality Custom Speedo Cable, Custom Tach Cable... > > > Mike MacLean > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fredwescoe at gmail.com Wed Oct 16 18:46:27 2019 From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 20:46:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Down pipes Message-ID: Listers, Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes. This is the second time in 2 years I have had to do this. What is causing the nuts to work loose? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue? What do I need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and down pipes. Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, Fred 66 BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbyers at ec.rr.com Wed Oct 16 19:50:46 2019 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (Max Byers) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 21:50:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Down pipes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006e01d5848d$4d421810$e7c64830$@rr.com> Fred, I had the same problem until I determined the correct torque to apply to the brass nuts and torqued them while the studs were hot. I torqued several used nuts until they stripped. The required torque to strip them was more than 300 lb-in. I installed new nuts and torqued them to 268 lb-in (a convenient click on my torque wrench) while they were hot as an initial test. I later increased that to 288 lb-in a year later when I replaced the gaskets, and I have had no more loosening or leakage problems. Steve Byers HBJ8L/36666 BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large Havelock, NC USA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 8:46 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Down pipes Listers, Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes. This is the second time in 2 years I have had to do this. What is causing the nuts to work loose? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue? What do I need to do to fix this? 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Mirek From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: October-16-19 1:12 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Tach and Speedo Cables I was searching for information on Google about the recommended length the inner tachometer cable should protrude from the outer sheath at the instrument end as I am replacing the cable on my Bugeye. The tachometer stopped working halfway home from the mechanic (R&R the Datsun transmission for bad synchros). The very end of the inner cable broke off in the gear reduction drive unit at the back of the generator. Before installing the new cable I seemed to remember that there was a caveat on how much the inner drive cable should protrude to prevent damage to the tachometer. Too long and it would damage the instrument. No telling where the repros are made these days. I finally found the info from a reprint of an old Smiths manual on the Vintage British Cable web site. http://vintagebritishcables.com/images/ServiceInformation2.jpg Lots of good info on this Canadian web site besides they make superior OEM style cables instead of the (Chinese) foreign crap we are used to from the usual suspects. Smiths Speedometer Cable, Smiths Tachometer Cable, British Custom Speedo Cable Text Box: Smiths Speedometer Cable, Smiths Tachometer Cable, British Custom Speedo... Authentic Smiths Speedometer Cable, Smiths Tachometer Cable. Best Quality Custom Speedo Cable, Custom Tach Cable... Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 163 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What is causing the nuts to work loose? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue? What do I need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and down pipes. Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, Fred 66 BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Oct 17 01:04:02 2019 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:04:02 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Down pipes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9f386da3-6f3d-4795-71ab-858e3286ff70@chello.nl> Brass nuts are fairly soft so may be the split washers work there way into the flanges of the nuts thus loosening them up. You may try SS nuts or a steel washer between brass nut and spring washer. Another possibility is that the lock washer loses its tension because it gets to hot. I am not a lover of split lock washers anyway as they damage the surface of the nut and the item that is bolted down. I always prefer the smooth but slightly bent ones (don't know the proper name for them) Kees Oudesluijs Op 17-10-2019 om 02:46 schreef Fred Wescoe: > Listers, > > Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes.? This is > the second time?in 2 years I have had to do this.? What is causing the > nuts to work loose?? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds > has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges.? Each > time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. > > What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue?? What do I > need to do to fix this?? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and > down pipes. > > Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, > > Fred > 66 BJ8 > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Tomfelts at windstream.net Thu Oct 17 05:46:44 2019 From: Tomfelts at windstream.net (Tom Felts) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 07:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Down pipes In-Reply-To: <9f386da3-6f3d-4795-71ab-858e3286ff70@chello.nl> References: <9f386da3-6f3d-4795-71ab-858e3286ff70@chello.nl> Message-ID: <1481158796.316698818.1571312804112.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> There are washers called Nordlock's that are good for this use. I use them on the downpipes on my E-Type. they hold.tom ----- Original Message ----- From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys To: healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 03:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down pipes Brass nuts are fairly soft so may be the split washers work there way into the flanges of the nuts thus loosening them up. You may try SS nuts or a steel washer between brass nut and spring washer.Another possibility is that the lock washer loses its tension because it gets to hot.I am not a lover of split lock washers anyway as they damage the surface of the nut and the item that is bolted down. I always prefer the smooth but slightly bent ones (don't know the proper name for them) Kees Oudesluijs Op 17-10-2019 om 02:46 schreef Fred Wescoe: Listers, Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes. This is the second time in 2 years I have had to do this. What is causing the nuts to work loose? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue? What do I need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and down pipes. Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, Fred66 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archiveHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From autofarm at wightman.ca Thu Oct 17 06:57:23 2019 From: autofarm at wightman.ca (Robert Yule) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 08:57:23 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Down pipes In-Reply-To: <1481158796.316698818.1571312804112.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <1481158796.316698818.1571312804112.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: We use Nordlocks on the front and rear shock bolts and they work. Cheers...Bob Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2019, at 8:45 AM, Tom Felts wrote: > > ? > There are washers called Nordlock's that are good for this use. I use them on the downpipes on my E-Type. they hold. > > tom > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 03:04:02 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down pipes > > Brass nuts are fairly soft so may be the split washers work there > way into the flanges of the nuts thus loosening them up. You may > try SS nuts or a steel washer between brass nut and spring washer. > > Another possibility is that the lock washer loses its tension > because it gets to hot. > > I am not a lover of split lock washers anyway as they damage the > surface of the nut and the item that is bolted down. I always > prefer the smooth but slightly bent ones (don't know the proper > name for them) > > > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > > > > > Op 17-10-2019 om 02:46 schreef Fred > Wescoe: > Listers, > > Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down > pipes. This is the second time in 2 years I have had to do > this. What is causing the nuts to work loose? Each of the 6 > studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock washers and > brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have > tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. > > What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this > issue? What do I need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 > with stock manifolds and down pipes. > > Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, > > Fred > 66 BJ8 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archiveHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/autofarm at wightman.ca > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.hutchings at rogers.com Thu Oct 17 07:24:07 2019 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (s.hutchings at rogers.com) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:24:07 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Down pipes In-Reply-To: <1481158796.316698818.1571312804112.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> References: <9f386da3-6f3d-4795-71ab-858e3286ff70@chello.nl> <1481158796.316698818.1571312804112.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net> Message-ID: <172A943B-81B8-4ACE-A5EC-C75FEB5B84D7@rogers.com> I?m curious to know how you discovered the nuts were loose in the first place. I had trouble with leaky gaskets, so I spent a fair amount of time under there getting things sealed up. I ended up making my own from Remflex, which is a graphite based gasket material designed for exhaust systems...it compresses somewhat and gives a good seal. But I?ve never found the nuts loose...mine are stainless, not brass. Stephen, BJ8 Sent from my iPad > On Oct 17, 2019, at 7:46 AM, Tom Felts wrote: > > There are washers called Nordlock's that are good for this use. I use them on the downpipes on my E-Type. they hold. > > tom > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 03:04:02 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down pipes > > Brass nuts are fairly soft so may be the split washers work there > way into the flanges of the nuts thus loosening them up. You may > try SS nuts or a steel washer between brass nut and spring washer. > > Another possibility is that the lock washer loses its tension > because it gets to hot. > > I am not a lover of split lock washers anyway as they damage the > surface of the nut and the item that is bolted down. I always > prefer the smooth but slightly bent ones (don't know the proper > name for them) > > > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > > > > > Op 17-10-2019 om 02:46 schreef Fred > Wescoe: > Listers, > > Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down > pipes. This is the second time in 2 years I have had to do > this. What is causing the nuts to work loose? Each of the 6 > studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock washers and > brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have > tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. > > What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this > issue? What do I need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 > with stock manifolds and down pipes. > > Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, > > Fred > 66 BJ8 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archiveHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradh904 at gmail.com Thu Oct 17 09:03:40 2019 From: bradh904 at gmail.com (Dave Phillips) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 11:03:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] seat installation Message-ID: I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? Brad Holden 67 BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kags at shaw.ca Thu Oct 17 09:57:15 2019 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 08:57:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Down pipes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88B19C7CD0C84520968CC692D3804E28@KagsLaptop> Fred ? Kees is right. I believe that the problem is the split washers. The factory used a flat washer only ? no lock washer at all - along with the special tall brass nut. The idea is that the less material there is for expansion / contraction. in that very hot environment, the less chance of problems. I have been using a thin stainless flat washer for years on both Healeys ? I?ve never had loosening problems (they need to be checked after the initial few start cycles, say 100 miles or so, and then maybe at the next service). I?ve also never torqued the flange nuts, just tightened them hard. As a related aside, I?ve had better success over the years with the copper faced flange gaskets. The other type seems to blow out a bit easier. Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb From: Fred Wescoe Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 5:46 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Down pipes Listers, Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes. This is the second time in 2 years I have had to do this. What is causing the nuts to work loose? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue? What do I need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and down pipes. Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, Fred 66 BJ8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/kags at shaw.ca -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Oct 17 10:18:11 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:18:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] seat installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B9C8ACB-1B01-447B-8018-2D7C5F6F026E@comcast.net> The kit in my BJ8 has slots cut for the slides. With the steel plate and wood packing I don?t think the bottom studs on the slides are long enough to secure to the T-nuts. > On Oct 17, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Dave Phillips wrote: > > ? > I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Oct 17 10:20:42 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:20:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes References: <6E55E7E1-520A-44AF-9C14-331E5F765B85@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1B9ABE0E-CCB2-4C5D-B977-BCE319016B1F@comcast.net> Begin forwarded message: > From: Bob Spidell > Date: October 17, 2019 at 8:21:17 AM PDT > To: Fred Wescoe > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down pipes > > ?I tried everything: new nuts, SS studs and torquing the snot out of the nuts (snapping a stud in the process) and still they would work loose. Finally gave up and double-nutted with mild steel nuts with high-temp anti-seize on the studs; they haven?t loosened since. > >> On Oct 16, 2019, at 6:19 PM, Fred Wescoe wrote: >> >> ? >> Listers, >> >> Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes. This is the second time in 2 years I have had to do this. What is causing the nuts to work loose? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. >> >> What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue? What do I need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and down pipes. >> >> Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, >> >> Fred >> 66 BJ8 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From engl at accesscomm.ca Thu Oct 17 10:34:50 2019 From: engl at accesscomm.ca (Bob England) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 10:34:50 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] seat installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d58508$cf2998a0$6d7cc9e0$@ca> Brad The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides. The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal strip, which sits on the floor sheet metal. I can send photos if you like. BobE ?65 BJ8 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Phillips Sent: October 17, 2019 9:04 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] seat installation I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? Brad Holden 67 BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bradh904 at gmail.com Thu Oct 17 11:14:41 2019 From: bradh904 at gmail.com (Dave Phillips) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 13:14:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] seat installation In-Reply-To: <000001d58508$cf2998a0$6d7cc9e0$@ca> References: <000001d58508$cf2998a0$6d7cc9e0$@ca> Message-ID: That would be great, thank you! On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:35 PM Bob England wrote: > Brad > > > > The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides. > > > > The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal > strip, which sits on the floor sheet metal. > > > > I can send photos if you like. > > > > BobE > > ?65 BJ8 > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Dave > Phillips > *Sent:* October 17, 2019 9:04 AM > *To:* Healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] seat installation > > > > I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a > question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or > do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? > > Brad Holden > > 67 BJ8 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From engl at accesscomm.ca Thu Oct 17 11:50:03 2019 From: engl at accesscomm.ca (Bob England) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 11:50:03 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] seat installation In-Reply-To: References: <000001d58508$cf2998a0$6d7cc9e0$@ca> Message-ID: <005c01d58513$51e06170$f5a12450$@ca> Photos attached. Photos 2071 through 2074 show progression of bits and pieces above the floor (the black material on the floor is a heat/sound material). The metal shim I had made out of 16ga stainless ? I think the originals were painted black(?) and were of a thinner steel (not SS). The wood packing piece I got from a local Lowes (it is an oak material that was the right height and width) ? my originals were painted black, but I couldn?t bring myself to paint the lovely oak pieces. Photo 2078 and 2080 show the underside of the floor, in particular how far the t-nuts thread onto the seat rail studs. Lots more photo?s if you need ?em! BobE ?65 BJ8 From: Dave Phillips [mailto:bradh904 at gmail.com] Sent: October 17, 2019 11:15 AM To: Bob England Cc: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation That would be great, thank you! On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:35 PM Bob England wrote: Brad The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides. The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal strip, which sits on the floor sheet metal. I can send photos if you like. BobE ?65 BJ8 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Phillips Sent: October 17, 2019 9:04 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] seat installation I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? Brad Holden 67 BJ8 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I can not see if there is a metal plate in there but I do not see a picture or listing of such a plate in the Moss catalog, Seat Frames, Foams, Fittings.. (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob England To: bradh904 at gmail.com ; Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Brad The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides. The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal strip, which sits on the floor sheet metal. I can send photos if you like. BobE ?65 BJ8 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Phillips Sent: October 17, 2019 9:04 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] seat installation I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? Brad Holden 67 BJ8 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Oct 17 14:25:16 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 13:25:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] seat installation In-Reply-To: <7124B714FC5C4A299F08B5E111ECC02B@LeonardPCPC> References: <000001d58508$cf2998a0$6d7cc9e0$@ca> <7124B714FC5C4A299F08B5E111ECC02B@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: Len, There should be both a wood strip and a metal plate. I decided to glue my carpet to my sound/heat material feeling it would shield against wet carpets rusting my floorboards and trans tunnel . I could not get the snaps to pull the carpet down smoothly and it just looked terrible. The factory would have cut the carpet around the metal and wood, so you could remove your carpet to dry it out when it got wet. Much cheaper than actually working to keep the cars from leaking in the rain.\:) Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:35 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett < thehartnetts at earthlink.net> wrote: > > Bob and Brad: Curious about this thread, I took a look at my seat > installation. Without removing the seat, wood, and alleged metal plate, I > can say that my assembly sits ON the carpet. The carpet and > seat installation was done quite a while ago. I may have referenced the > Moss video but can't remember. However, as a novice doing this for the > first time, I would have used the "remove/replace in reverse order" system > implying that that was how the original seat was installed. I can not see > if there is a metal plate in there but I do not see a picture or listing of > such a plate in the Moss catalog, Seat Frames, Foams, Fittings.. > > (The Other) Len > Fairfield, CA, USA > 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Bob England > *To:* bradh904 at gmail.com ; Healeys at autox.team.net > *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:34 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] seat installation > > Brad > > > > The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides. > > > > The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal > strip, which sits on the floor sheet metal. > > > > I can send photos if you like. > > > > BobE > > ?65 BJ8 > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Dave > Phillips > *Sent:* October 17, 2019 9:04 AM > *To:* Healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Healeys] seat installation > > > > I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a > question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or > do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? > > Brad Holden > > 67 BJ8 > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > Virus-free. www.avg.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cjerryadams at yahoo.com Thu Oct 17 17:19:14 2019 From: cjerryadams at yahoo.com (cjerryadams at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 18:19:14 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes In-Reply-To: <1B9ABE0E-CCB2-4C5D-B977-BCE319016B1F@comcast.net> References: <1B9ABE0E-CCB2-4C5D-B977-BCE319016B1F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <401F240E-7B2E-4AF5-9838-9C8AA28EF85F@yahoo.com> Fred, Engine exhaust heat and engine vibration will eventually loose almost anything. Heat is biggest problem due to metal expansion. That?s why it is recommended that head bolts be retightened after run in after a few heat cycles. Thinner jam nuts are made for double nutting for just this case. Only tighten what torque spec says. The spec tables will take into account material grade, # of threads/inch and bolt dia. Torque specs are available in a number of places. Jerry Adams BN 2 Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: > > ? > > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Bob Spidell >> Date: October 17, 2019 at 8:21:17 AM PDT >> To: Fred Wescoe >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down pipes >> >> ?I tried everything: new nuts, SS studs and torquing the snot out of the nuts (snapping a stud in the process) and still they would work loose. Finally gave up and double-nutted with mild steel nuts with high-temp anti-seize on the studs; they haven?t loosened since. >> >>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 6:19 PM, Fred Wescoe wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> Listers, >>> >>> Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes. This is the second time in 2 years I have had to do this. What is causing the nuts to work loose? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. >>> >>> What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue? What do I need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and down pipes. >>> >>> Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, >>> >>> Fred >>> 66 BJ8 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >>> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cjerryadams at yahoo.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Oct 17 18:33:15 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:33:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes In-Reply-To: <1B9ABE0E-CCB2-4C5D-B977-BCE319016B1F@comcast.net> References: <6E55E7E1-520A-44AF-9C14-331E5F765B85@comcast.net> <1B9ABE0E-CCB2-4C5D-B977-BCE319016B1F@comcast.net> Message-ID: How are your rubber mounts? Is your exhaust rattling a lot? Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Thu, Oct 17, 2019, 10:24 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > *From:* Bob Spidell > *Date:* October 17, 2019 at 8:21:17 AM PDT > *To:* Fred Wescoe > *Subject:* *Re: [Healeys] Down pipes* > > ?I tried everything: new nuts, SS studs and torquing the snot out of the > nuts (snapping a stud in the process) and still they would work loose. > Finally gave up and double-nutted with mild steel nuts with high-temp > anti-seize on the studs; they haven?t loosened since. > > On Oct 16, 2019, at 6:19 PM, Fred Wescoe wrote: > > > ? > > Listers, > > > Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes. This is the > second time in 2 years I have had to do this. What is causing the nuts to > work loose? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock > washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have > tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. > > > What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue? What do I > need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and down > pipes. > > > Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, > > > Fred > > 66 BJ8 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Oct 17 19:14:56 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 18:14:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Down pipes In-Reply-To: <9f386da3-6f3d-4795-71ab-858e3286ff70@chello.nl> References: <9f386da3-6f3d-4795-71ab-858e3286ff70@chello.nl> Message-ID: <21db957a-2aea-fd79-2631-d5c62ed3a384@comcast.net> "I always prefer the smooth but slightly bent ones (don't know the proper name for them)" Belleville? On 10/17/2019 12:04 AM, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys wrote: > > Brass nuts are fairly soft so may be the split washers work there way > into the flanges of the nuts thus loosening them up. You may try SS > nuts or a steel washer between brass nut and spring washer. > > Another possibility is that the lock washer loses its tension because > it gets to hot. > > I am not a lover of split lock washers anyway as they damage the > surface of the nut and the item that is bolted down. I always prefer > the smooth but slightly bent ones (don't know the proper name for them) > > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > > Op 17-10-2019 om 02:46 schreef Fred Wescoe: >> Listers, >> >> Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes.? This is >> the second time?in 2 years I have had to do this.? What is causing >> the nuts to work loose?? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust >> manifolds has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe >> flanges.? Each time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them >> until the nuts squeak. >> >> What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue?? What do >> I need to do to fix this?? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds >> and down pipes. >> >> Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, >> >> Fred >> 66 BJ8 >> >> From ynotink at msn.com Thu Oct 17 22:23:59 2019 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 04:23:59 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes In-Reply-To: References: <6E55E7E1-520A-44AF-9C14-331E5F765B85@comcast.net> <1B9ABE0E-CCB2-4C5D-B977-BCE319016B1F@comcast.net>, Message-ID: The rubber mounts shouldn't cause a problem, but the flexible sections of the down pipes may have become too stiff to flex, in which case the relative motion of the engine to the chassis may be transmitted to the down pipe flanges. Also remember that heating the steel fasteners will tend to draw out the temper making them easier to stretch. If they have loosened before then they may have begun to stretch when you torqued them. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of i erbs Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 12:33 AM To: Bob Spidell Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes How are your rubber mounts? Is your exhaust rattling a lot? Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Thu, Oct 17, 2019, 10:24 AM Bob Spidell > wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Bob Spidell > Date: October 17, 2019 at 8:21:17 AM PDT To: Fred Wescoe > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down pipes ?I tried everything: new nuts, SS studs and torquing the snot out of the nuts (snapping a stud in the process) and still they would work loose. Finally gave up and double-nutted with mild steel nuts with high-temp anti-seize on the studs; they haven?t loosened since. On Oct 16, 2019, at 6:19 PM, Fred Wescoe > wrote: ? Listers, Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes. This is the second time in 2 years I have had to do this. What is causing the nuts to work loose? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue? What do I need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and down pipes. Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, Fred 66 BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Fri Oct 18 07:02:57 2019 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 09:02:57 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes In-Reply-To: References: <6E55E7E1-520A-44AF-9C14-331E5F765B85@comcast.net> <1B9ABE0E-CCB2-4C5D-B977-BCE319016B1F@comcast.net>, Message-ID: Bill brings up something that I have thought about occasionally over the last 50 years, why is there a section of flex pipe used in the original production of Austin Healey?s? I mention production because I?m not sure what was on the first prototype cars. Todays stainless or mesh type flex pipe does actually move even after the pipe has ?aged? a bit. Not so much for the older mild steel versions. Once they take a set (rust) there is not much movement, but usually breakage. My take on the flex pipe on Austin Healey is that it makes it a lot easier to fit the pieces together on the car. Exhaust manifold outlet(s) are fixed points. Same with the inlet(s} to the muffler. To get a perfectly parallel set of down pipes outlets into the muffler and still fit the exhaust manifold would be hard without the flex pipe sections. Note that the factory welded the two tail pipes together on the later 100-Six/early 3000. OK I?m going back to sleep. Perhaps I?ll dream about why the oil drips out of my gearbox/OD even with fresh ?O? rings?. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 12:50 AM To: i erbs; Bob Spidell Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes The rubber mounts shouldn't cause a problem, but the flexible sections of the down pipes may have become too stiff to flex, in which case the relative motion of the engine to the chassis may be transmitted to the down pipe flanges. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bighealey3k at aim.com Fri Oct 18 07:46:02 2019 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (Larry Wendland) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 13:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes References: <945357241.4642079.1571406362438.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <945357241.4642079.1571406362438@mail.yahoo.com> Perry, After all that my head hurts. LOL I agree the flex pipes were to aid in fitment of the forward portion of the exhaust system when new and it takes a set after a period of use and no longer flexible. -----Original Message----- From: Perry via Healeys To: healeys Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 9:21 am Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes Bill brings up something that I have thought about occasionally over the last 50 years, why is there a section of flex pipe used in the original production of Austin Healey?s?? I mention production because I?m not sure what was on the first prototype cars. Todays stainless or mesh type flex pipe does actually move even after the pipe has ?aged? a bit. Not so much for the older mild steel versions. Once they take a set (rust) there is not much movement, but usually breakage. My take on the flex pipe on Austin Healey is that it makes it a lot easier to fit the pieces together on the car. Exhaust manifold outlet(s) are fixed points. Same with the inlet(s} to the muffler. To get a perfectly parallel set of down pipes outlets into the muffler and still fit the exhaust manifold would be hard without the flex pipe sections. Note that the factory welded the two tail pipes together on the later 100-Six/early 3000. OK I?m going back to sleep.? Perhaps I?ll dream about why the oil drips out of my gearbox/OD even with fresh ?O? rings?. Perry ? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ? From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 12:50 AM To: i erbs; Bob Spidell Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes ? The rubber mounts shouldn't cause a problem, but the flexible sections of the down pipes may have become too stiff to flex, in which case the relative motion of the engine to the chassis may be transmitted to the down pipe flanges. ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey3k at aim.com From boyracer466 at gmail.com Fri Oct 18 12:30:49 2019 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 11:30:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Door card material Message-ID: I'm getting ready to make new door cards and trim my doors. My research has found that people use everything including ABS plastic, foam board, masonite and plywood. I'm leaning towards Baltic Birch plywood at this point but I would like the infinite wisdom of this list before I go down that, or any other, road. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From javrugtman at htcnet.org Fri Oct 18 13:02:32 2019 From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 15:02:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Door card material In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f98f0d8-75e7-1085-2145-84b676818a50@htcnet.org> baltic birch.? I replaced the particle board panels that had warped after a few years with birch, working well. John On 10/18/2019 2:30 PM, richard mayor wrote: > I'm getting ready to make new door cards and trim my doors. My > research has found that people use everything including ABS plastic, > foam board, masonite and plywood. 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Do not forget to fit a PE sheet on the outside of the door card, suspended between door card and door frame at the top and hanging inside the door frame at the bottom to drain away any water entering. Make sure the drain holes in the door bottom are clean and not blocked. Kees Oudesluijs Op 18-10-2019 om 20:30 schreef richard mayor: > I'm getting ready to make new door cards and trim my doors. My > research has found that people use everything including ABS plastic, > foam board, masonite and plywood. I'm leaning towards Baltic Birch > plywood at this point but I would like the infinite wisdom of this > list before I go down that, or any other, road. > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyguy at aol.com Fri Oct 18 14:23:37 2019 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 16:23:37 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Door card material In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Richard Buy the panel board from a supplier like: https://www.perfectfit.com/15347/Chipboard-Car-Panelboard.html The stuff is made exactly for this purpose. Easy to cut , shape, glue, install and it lasts. If the door card needs to be a little stiffer in places, say around the door pocket opening on a 100 or early 6 cylinder cars, you just glue another strip of the card panelboard to the back side before covering with your vinyl / leather. If you build the panels out of material that is to thick it can ruin your day when the doors don?t shut easily anymore. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: richard mayor Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 2:53 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Door card material I'm getting ready to make new door cards and trim my doors. My research has found that people use everything including ABS plastic, foam board, masonite and plywood. I'm leaning towards Baltic Birch plywood at this point but I would like the infinite wisdom of this list before I go down that, or any other, road. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Fri Oct 18 14:32:45 2019 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 20:32:45 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes In-Reply-To: <87548dec-e24f-436b-8383-d7e7edf4974e@DM6NAM10FT007.eop-nam10.prod.protection.outlook.com> References: <6E55E7E1-520A-44AF-9C14-331E5F765B85@comcast.net> <1B9ABE0E-CCB2-4C5D-B977-BCE319016B1F@comcast.net>, , <87548dec-e24f-436b-8383-d7e7edf4974e@DM6NAM10FT007.eop-nam10.prod.protection.outlook.com> Message-ID: The flex sections are necessary because the engine moves on its mounts in relation to the chassis. and that would stress and destroy a solid exhaust connection. The rubber exhaust hangers don't have enough flex to compensate for the movement and would similarly be stressed. If the flex sections were to freeze in place all of the stress caused by the engine rocking and vibration would be transferred to the exhaust flange joints and/or the rubber mounts. Most modern cars compensate by allowing some freedom of motion in the exhaust hangers, although some still have some form of flexible joint in the system. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 ________________________________ From: Perry Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 1:02 PM To: healeys Cc: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Subject: RE: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes Bill brings up something that I have thought about occasionally over the last 50 years, why is there a section of flex pipe used in the original production of Austin Healey?s? I mention production because I?m not sure what was on the first prototype cars. Todays stainless or mesh type flex pipe does actually move even after the pipe has ?aged? a bit. Not so much for the older mild steel versions. Once they take a set (rust) there is not much movement, but usually breakage. My take on the flex pipe on Austin Healey is that it makes it a lot easier to fit the pieces together on the car. Exhaust manifold outlet(s) are fixed points. Same with the inlet(s} to the muffler. To get a perfectly parallel set of down pipes outlets into the muffler and still fit the exhaust manifold would be hard without the flex pipe sections. Note that the factory welded the two tail pipes together on the later 100-Six/early 3000. OK I?m going back to sleep. Perhaps I?ll dream about why the oil drips out of my gearbox/OD even with fresh ?O? rings?. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 12:50 AM To: i erbs; Bob Spidell Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes The rubber mounts shouldn't cause a problem, but the flexible sections of the down pipes may have become too stiff to flex, in which case the relative motion of the engine to the chassis may be transmitted to the down pipe flanges. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rick72b at comcast.net Fri Oct 18 17:36:33 2019 From: rick72b at comcast.net (Rick Brodeur) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 19:36:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 12, Issue 340 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In my experience as a restorer, the seat carpet should be cut so it is free of the slides so that if (no, when) the carpet gets wet it can be removed for drying. The seat carpet should not be held down by the seat slides. Rick On 10/18/2019 2:00 PM, healeys-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Send Healeys mailing list submissions to > healeys at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > healeys-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: seat installation (Len and/or Marge Hartnett) > 2. Re: seat installation (i erbs) > 3. Re: Fwd: Down pipes (cjerryadams at yahoo.com) > 4. Re: Fwd: Down pipes (i erbs) > 5. Re: Down pipes (Bob Spidell) > 6. Re: Fwd: Down pipes (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) > 7. Re: Fwd: Down pipes (Perry) > 8. Re: Fwd: Down pipes (Larry Wendland) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 11:17:35 -0700 > From: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" > To: "AH Mail List" > Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation > Message-ID: <7124B714FC5C4A299F08B5E111ECC02B at LeonardPCPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Bob and Brad: Curious about this thread, I took a look at my seat installation. Without removing the seat, wood, and alleged metal plate, I can say that my assembly sits ON the carpet. The carpet and seat installation was done quite a while ago. I may have referenced the Moss video but can't remember. However, as a novice doing this for the first time, I would have used the "remove/replace in reverse order" system implying that that was how the original seat was installed. I can not see if there is a metal plate in there but I do not see a picture or listing of such a plate in the Moss catalog, Seat Frames, Foams, Fittings.. > > (The Other) Len > Fairfield, CA, USA > 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob England > To: bradh904 at gmail.com ; Healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation > > > Brad > > > > The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides. > > > > The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal strip, which sits on the floor sheet metal. > > > > I can send photos if you like. > > > > BobE > > ?65 BJ8 > > > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Phillips > Sent: October 17, 2019 9:04 AM > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] seat installation > > > > I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? > > Brad Holden > > 67 BJ8 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 13:25:16 -0700 > From: i erbs > To: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" > Cc: AH Mail List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Len, > There should be both a wood strip and a metal plate. I decided to glue my > carpet to my sound/heat material feeling it would shield against wet > carpets rusting my floorboards and trans tunnel . I could not get the snaps > to pull the carpet down smoothly and it just looked terrible. The factory > would have cut the carpet around the metal and wood, so you could remove > your carpet to dry it out when it got wet. Much cheaper than actually > working to keep the cars from leaking in the rain.\:) > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB [image: MG] > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > > > > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:35 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett < > thehartnetts at earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Bob and Brad: Curious about this thread, I took a look at my seat >> installation. Without removing the seat, wood, and alleged metal plate, I >> can say that my assembly sits ON the carpet. The carpet and >> seat installation was done quite a while ago. I may have referenced the >> Moss video but can't remember. However, as a novice doing this for the >> first time, I would have used the "remove/replace in reverse order" system >> implying that that was how the original seat was installed. I can not see >> if there is a metal plate in there but I do not see a picture or listing of >> such a plate in the Moss catalog, Seat Frames, Foams, Fittings.. >> >> (The Other) Len >> Fairfield, CA, USA >> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Bob England >> *To:* bradh904 at gmail.com ; Healeys at autox.team.net >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:34 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] seat installation >> >> Brad >> >> >> >> The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides. >> >> >> >> The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal >> strip, which sits on the floor sheet metal. >> >> >> >> I can send photos if you like. >> >> >> >> BobE >> >> ?65 BJ8 >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Dave >> Phillips >> *Sent:* October 17, 2019 9:04 AM >> *To:* Healeys at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* [Healeys] seat installation >> >> >> >> I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a >> question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or >> do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? >> >> Brad Holden >> >> 67 BJ8 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> > > Virus-free. > www.avg.com > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 18:19:14 -0500 > From: cjerryadams at yahoo.com > To: Bob Spidell > Cc: Healey List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes > Message-ID: <401F240E-7B2E-4AF5-9838-9C8AA28EF85F at yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Fred, > Engine exhaust heat and engine vibration will eventually loose almost anything. Heat is biggest problem due to metal expansion. That?s why it is recommended that head bolts be retightened after run in after a few heat cycles. Thinner jam nuts are made for double nutting for just this case. Only tighten what torque spec says. The spec tables will take into account material grade, # of threads/inch and bolt dia. Torque specs are available in a number of places. > > Jerry Adams > BN 2 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 17, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Bob Spidell wrote: >> >> ? >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Bob Spidell >>> Date: October 17, 2019 at 8:21:17 AM PDT >>> To: Fred Wescoe >>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down pipes >>> >>> ?I tried everything: new nuts, SS studs and torquing the snot out of the nuts (snapping a stud in the process) and still they would work loose. Finally gave up and double-nutted with mild steel nuts with high-temp anti-seize on the studs; they haven?t loosened since. >>> >>>> On Oct 16, 2019, at 6:19 PM, Fred Wescoe wrote: >>>> >>>> ? >>>> Listers, >>>> >>>> Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes. This is the second time in 2 years I have had to do this. What is causing the nuts to work loose? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. >>>> >>>> What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue? What do I need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and down pipes. >>>> >>>> Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, >>>> >>>> Fred >>>> 66 BJ8 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cjerryadams at yahoo.com >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:33:15 -0700 > From: i erbs > To: Bob Spidell > Cc: Ahealey help > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > How are your rubber mounts? Is your exhaust rattling a lot? > > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019, 10:24 AM Bob Spidell wrote: > >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From:* Bob Spidell >> *Date:* October 17, 2019 at 8:21:17 AM PDT >> *To:* Fred Wescoe >> *Subject:* *Re: [Healeys] Down pipes* >> >> ?I tried everything: new nuts, SS studs and torquing the snot out of the >> nuts (snapping a stud in the process) and still they would work loose. >> Finally gave up and double-nutted with mild steel nuts with high-temp >> anti-seize on the studs; they haven?t loosened since. >> >> On Oct 16, 2019, at 6:19 PM, Fred Wescoe wrote: >> >> >> ? >> >> Listers, >> >> >> Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes. This is the >> second time in 2 years I have had to do this. What is causing the nuts to >> work loose? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock >> washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have >> tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. >> >> >> What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue? What do I >> need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and down >> pipes. >> >> >> Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, >> >> >> Fred >> >> 66 BJ8 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 18:14:56 -0700 > From: Bob Spidell > To: healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down pipes > Message-ID: <21db957a-2aea-fd79-2631-d5c62ed3a384 at comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > "I always prefer the smooth but slightly bent ones (don't know the > proper name for them)" > > Belleville? > > > On 10/17/2019 12:04 AM, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys wrote: >> Brass nuts are fairly soft so may be the split washers work there way >> into the flanges of the nuts thus loosening them up. You may try SS >> nuts or a steel washer between brass nut and spring washer. >> >> Another possibility is that the lock washer loses its tension because >> it gets to hot. >> >> I am not a lover of split lock washers anyway as they damage the >> surface of the nut and the item that is bolted down. I always prefer >> the smooth but slightly bent ones (don't know the proper name for them) >> >> >> Kees Oudesluijs >> >> >> >> >> Op 17-10-2019 om 02:46 schreef Fred Wescoe: >>> Listers, >>> >>> Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes.? This is >>> the second time?in 2 years I have had to do this.? What is causing >>> the nuts to work loose?? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust >>> manifolds has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe >>> flanges.? Each time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them >>> until the nuts squeak. >>> >>> What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue?? What do >>> I need to do to fix this?? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds >>> and down pipes. >>> >>> Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, >>> >>> Fred >>> 66 BJ8 >>> >>> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 04:23:59 +0000 > From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > To: i erbs , Bob Spidell > Cc: Ahealey help > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > The rubber mounts shouldn't cause a problem, but the flexible sections of the down pipes may have become too stiff to flex, in which case the relative motion of the engine to the chassis may be transmitted to the down pipe flanges. > > Also remember that heating the steel fasteners will tend to draw out the temper making them easier to stretch. If they have loosened before then they may have begun to stretch when you torqued them. > > Bill Lawrence > BN1 #554 > ________________________________ > From: Healeys on behalf of i erbs > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 12:33 AM > To: Bob Spidell > Cc: Ahealey help > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes > > How are your rubber mounts? Is your exhaust rattling a lot? > > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019, 10:24 AM Bob Spidell > wrote: > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Bob Spidell > > Date: October 17, 2019 at 8:21:17 AM PDT > To: Fred Wescoe > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down pipes > > ?I tried everything: new nuts, SS studs and torquing the snot out of the nuts (snapping a stud in the process) and still they would work loose. Finally gave up and double-nutted with mild steel nuts with high-temp anti-seize on the studs; they haven?t loosened since. > > On Oct 16, 2019, at 6:19 PM, Fred Wescoe > wrote: > > ? > Listers, > > Today, I had to tighten the 6 nuts on my exhaust down pipes. This is the second time in 2 years I have had to do this. What is causing the nuts to work loose? Each of the 6 studs from the exhaust manifolds has split lock washers and brass nuts on the down pipe flanges. Each time time I have tightened the nuts, I tighten them until the nuts squeak. > > What am I doing wrong and does anyone else have this issue? What do I need to do to fix this? The car is a 66 BJ8 with stock manifolds and down pipes. > > Thanks for any advice, I'm stumped, > > Fred > 66 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 09:02:57 -0400 > From: Perry > To: healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Bill brings up something that I have thought about occasionally over the last 50 years, why is there a section of flex pipe used in the original production of Austin Healey?s? I mention production because I?m not sure what was on the first prototype cars. Todays stainless or mesh type flex pipe does actually move even after the pipe has ?aged? a bit. Not so much for the older mild steel versions. Once they take a set (rust) there is not much movement, but usually breakage. > My take on the flex pipe on Austin Healey is that it makes it a lot easier to fit the pieces together on the car. Exhaust manifold outlet(s) are fixed points. Same with the inlet(s} to the muffler. To get a perfectly parallel set of down pipes outlets into the muffler and still fit the exhaust manifold would be hard without the flex pipe sections. Note that the factory welded the two tail pipes together on the later 100-Six/early 3000. > OK I?m going back to sleep. Perhaps I?ll dream about why the oil drips out of my gearbox/OD even with fresh ?O? rings?. > Perry > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 12:50 AM > To: i erbs; Bob Spidell > Cc: Ahealey help > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes > > The rubber mounts shouldn't cause a problem, but the flexible sections of the down pipes may have become too stiff to flex, in which case the relative motion of the engine to the chassis may be transmitted to the down pipe flanges. > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 13:46:02 +0000 (UTC) > From: Larry Wendland > To: healeyguy at aol.com, healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes > Message-ID: <945357241.4642079.1571406362438 at mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Perry, After all that my head hurts. LOL I agree the flex pipes were to aid in fitment of the forward portion of the exhaust system when new and it takes a set after a period of use and no longer flexible. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Perry via Healeys > To: healeys > Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 9:21 am > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes > > > > Bill brings up something that I have thought about occasionally over the last 50 years, why is there a section of flex pipe used in the original production of Austin Healey?s?? I mention production because I?m not sure what was on the first prototype cars. Todays stainless or mesh type flex pipe does actually move even after the pipe has ?aged? a bit. Not so much for the older mild steel versions. Once they take a set (rust) there is not much movement, but usually breakage. > My take on the flex pipe on Austin Healey is that it makes it a lot easier to fit the pieces together on the car. Exhaust manifold outlet(s) are fixed points. Same with the inlet(s} to the muffler. To get a perfectly parallel set of down pipes outlets into the muffler and still fit the exhaust manifold would be hard without the flex pipe sections. Note that the factory welded the two tail pipes together on the later 100-Six/early 3000. > OK I?m going back to sleep.? Perhaps I?ll dream about why the oil drips out of my gearbox/OD even with fresh ?O? rings?. > Perry > ? > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > ? > > From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 12:50 AM > To: i erbs; Bob Spidell > Cc: Ahealey help > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Down pipes > > > ? > The rubber mounts shouldn't cause a problem, but the flexible sections of the down pipes may have become too stiff to flex, in which case the relative motion of the engine to the chassis may be transmitted to the down pipe flanges. > > ? > > ? > > > > > > > > ? > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey3k at aim.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Healeys mailing list > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > archives: http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Healeys Digest, Vol 12, Issue 340 > **************************************** From manifold at telus.net Fri Oct 18 18:23:12 2019 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 17:23:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] seat installation In-Reply-To: References: <000001d58508$cf2998a0$6d7cc9e0$@ca> <7124B714FC5C4A299F08B5E111ECC02B@LeonardPCPC> Message-ID: <9D370AFD194040CBBF1E9D5D35A38F11@AllInOne> Another seat question. By BT7 did not have seat belts when originally built. I have purchased the hardware but don't know if the door side seat belt anchor is on top of the carpet or if the carpet trimmed around the anchor bracket? Picture of bracket is attached. Thanks .... Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:25 PM To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Cc: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Len, There should be both a wood strip and a metal plate. I decided to glue my carpet to my sound/heat material feeling it would shield against wet carpets rusting my floorboards and trans tunnel . I could not get the snaps to pull the carpet down smoothly and it just looked terrible. The factory would have cut the carpet around the metal and wood, so you could remove your carpet to dry it out when it got wet. Much cheaper than actually working to keep the cars from leaking in the rain.\:) Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB MG A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words Virus-free. www.avg.com On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:35 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett wrote: Bob and Brad: Curious about this thread, I took a look at my seat installation. Without removing the seat, wood, and alleged metal plate, I can say that my assembly sits ON the carpet. The carpet and seat installation was done quite a while ago. I may have referenced the Moss video but can't remember. However, as a novice doing this for the first time, I would have used the "remove/replace in reverse order" system implying that that was how the original seat was installed. I can not see if there is a metal plate in there but I do not see a picture or listing of such a plate in the Moss catalog, Seat Frames, Foams, Fittings.. (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob England To: bradh904 at gmail.com ; Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Brad The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides. The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal strip, which sits on the floor sheet metal. I can send photos if you like. BobE '65 BJ8 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Phillips Sent: October 17, 2019 9:04 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] seat installation I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? Brad Holden 67 BJ8 _____ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have purchased the hardware but don't know if the door side seat belt anchor is on top of the carpet or if the carpet trimmed around the anchor bracket? Picture of bracket is attached. Thanks ... Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:25 PM To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Cc: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Len, There should be both a wood strip and a metal plate. I decided to glue my carpet to my sound/heat material feeling it would shield against wet carpets rusting my floorboards and trans tunnel . I could not get the snaps to pull the carpet down smoothly and it just looked terrible. The factory would have cut the carpet around the metal and wood, so you could remove your carpet to dry it out when it got wet. Much cheaper than actually working to keep the cars from leaking in the rain.\:) Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words Virus-free. www.avg.com On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:35 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett > wrote: Bob and Brad: Curious about this thread, I took a look at my seat installation. Without removing the seat, wood, and alleged metal plate, I can say that my assembly sits ON the carpet. The carpet and seat installation was done quite a while ago. I may have referenced the Moss video but can't remember. However, as a novice doing this for the first time, I would have used the "remove/replace in reverse order" system implying that that was how the original seat was installed. I can not see if there is a metal plate in there but I do not see a picture or listing of such a plate in the Moss catalog, Seat Frames, Foams, Fittings.. (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob England To: bradh904 at gmail.com ; Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Brad The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides. The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal strip, which sits on the floor sheet metal. I can send photos if you like. BobE '65 BJ8 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net ] On Behalf Of Dave Phillips Sent: October 17, 2019 9:04 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] seat installation I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? Brad Holden 67 BJ8 _____ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com Virus-free. www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From engl at accesscomm.ca Fri Oct 18 23:17:15 2019 From: engl at accesscomm.ca (Engl) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 23:17:15 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] seat installation In-Reply-To: <000001d58631$742af730$5c80e590$@sbcglobal.net> References: <000001d58631$742af730$5c80e590$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <0FC0D340-BC1B-4AC4-819A-4BA340A5A8B1@accesscomm.ca> Harold I did likewise, but this method kind of negates the pull-the-carpet-when-it-gets-wet theorem. I agree with John,though, that if one did cut the carpet the slivers of carpet left would flop around and soon tear off. Bob England > On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:07 PM, John Spaur wrote: > > ? > I installed mine on top of the carpet which I believe to be correct. If you don?t do it that way you will end up with a little sliver of carpet forward and aft of the belt attachment that will flop around. > > John > ?62 BT7 > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Harold Manifold > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 5:23 PM > To: 'Healey List' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation > > Another seat question. By BT7 did not have seat belts when originally built. I have purchased the hardware but don't know if the door side seat belt anchor is on top of the carpet or if the carpet trimmed around the anchor bracket? Picture of bracket is attached. > > Thanks ... Harold > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:25 PM > To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett > Cc: AH Mail List > Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation > > Len, > There should be both a wood strip and a metal plate. I decided to glue my carpet to my sound/heat material feeling it would shield against wet carpets rusting my floorboards and trans tunnel . I could not get the snaps to pull the carpet down smoothly and it just looked terrible. The factory would have cut the carpet around the metal and wood, so you could remove your carpet to dry it out when it got wet. Much cheaper than actually working to keep the cars from leaking in the rain.\:) > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:35 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett wrote: > > Bob and Brad: Curious about this thread, I took a look at my seat installation. Without removing the seat, wood, and alleged metal plate, I can say that my assembly sits ON the carpet. The carpet and seat installation was done quite a while ago. I may have referenced the Moss video but can't remember. However, as a novice doing this for the first time, I would have used the "remove/replace in reverse order" system implying that that was how the original seat was installed. I can not see if there is a metal plate in there but I do not see a picture or listing of such a plate in the Moss catalog, Seat Frames, Foams, Fittings.. > > (The Other) Len > Fairfield, CA, USA > 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob England > To: bradh904 at gmail.com ; Healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation > > Brad > > The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides. > > The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal strip, which sits on the floor sheet metal. > > I can send photos if you like. > > BobE > ?65 BJ8 > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Phillips > Sent: October 17, 2019 9:04 AM > To: Healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: [Healeys] seat installation > > I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? > Brad Holden > 67 BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/thehartnetts at earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl at accesscomm.ca > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Fri Oct 18 23:40:16 2019 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 22:40:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?seat__installation?= Message-ID: <20191019054016.4516.qmail@server278.com> i have had to replace carpet that has been put down then the seat runners bolted in on top. not fun to change. exhaust needs to be dropped on driver's side. From autofarm at wightman.ca Sat Oct 19 05:08:08 2019 From: autofarm at wightman.ca (Auto Farm) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 07:08:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] seat installation In-Reply-To: <0FC0D340-BC1B-4AC4-819A-4BA340A5A8B1@accesscomm.ca> References: <000001d58631$742af730$5c80e590$@sbcglobal.net> <0FC0D340-BC1B-4AC4-819A-4BA340A5A8B1@accesscomm.ca> Message-ID: <001501d5866d$7d7d7970$78786c50$@ca> If a snap is installed on the front of that ?little sliver of carpet? then there is no problem. We always cut out around the seat runners. Cheers?..Bob From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Engl Sent: October-19-19 1:17 AM To: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Harold I did likewise, but this method kind of negates the pull-the-carpet-when-it-gets-wet theorem. I agree with John,though, that if one did cut the carpet the slivers of carpet left would flop around and soon tear off. Bob England On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:07 PM, John Spaur wrote: ? I installed mine on top of the carpet which I believe to be correct. If you don?t do it that way you will end up with a little sliver of carpet forward and aft of the belt attachment that will flop around. John ?62 BT7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Harold Manifold Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 5:23 PM To: 'Healey List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Another seat question. By BT7 did not have seat belts when originally built. I have purchased the hardware but don't know if the door side seat belt anchor is on top of the carpet or if the carpet trimmed around the anchor bracket? Picture of bracket is attached. Thanks ... Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:25 PM To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Cc: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Len, There should be both a wood strip and a metal plate. I decided to glue my carpet to my sound/heat material feeling it would shield against wet carpets rusting my floorboards and trans tunnel . I could not get the snaps to pull the carpet down smoothly and it just looked terrible. The factory would have cut the carpet around the metal and wood, so you could remove your carpet to dry it out when it got wet. Much cheaper than actually working to keep the cars from leaking in the rain.\:) Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB MG A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words Virus-free. www.avg.com On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:35 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett wrote: Bob and Brad: Curious about this thread, I took a look at my seat installation. Without removing the seat, wood, and alleged metal plate, I can say that my assembly sits ON the carpet. The carpet and seat installation was done quite a while ago. I may have referenced the Moss video but can't remember. However, as a novice doing this for the first time, I would have used the "remove/replace in reverse order" system implying that that was how the original seat was installed. I can not see if there is a metal plate in there but I do not see a picture or listing of such a plate in the Moss catalog, Seat Frames, Foams, Fittings.. (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob England To: bradh904 at gmail.com ; Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Brad The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides. The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal strip, which sits on the floor sheet metal. I can send photos if you like. BobE ?65 BJ8 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Phillips Sent: October 17, 2019 9:04 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] seat installation I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? 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URL: From warthodson at aol.com Sat Oct 19 08:39:16 2019 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 14:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Door card material References: <1554050463.5134158.1571495956604.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1554050463.5134158.1571495956604@mail.yahoo.com> What ever you use, consider that at some point in time they may get wet. For example, you might get caught in a heavy rain storm before you can find a spot to erect the top & install the side curtains (if your car has them). The material might buckle, warp or delaminate if it is not water resistant.Gary Hodson? -----Original Message----- From: richard mayor To: healeys Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 1:53 pm Subject: [Healeys] Door card material I'm getting ready to make new door cards and trim my doors. My research has found that people use everything including ABS plastic, foam board, masonite and plywood. I'm leaning towards Baltic Birch plywood at this point but I would like the infinite wisdom of this list before I go down that, or any other, road. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sentenac.rw at gmail.com Sat Oct 19 09:44:24 2019 From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com (Roland Wilhelmy) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:44:24 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Door card material In-Reply-To: <1554050463.5134158.1571495956604@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1554050463.5134158.1571495956604.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1554050463.5134158.1571495956604@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I used plywood from aircraft Spruce and Specialty. 3 ply. Finnish birch. Available in thicknesses from 1/64 ? up by 64ths. Tested to German Lloyd specs. Something like five hours in boiling salt water. -Roland On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 7:40 AM warthodson--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > What ever you use, consider that at some point in time they may get wet. > For example, you might get caught in a heavy rain storm before you can find > a spot to erect the top & install the side curtains (if your car has them). > The material might buckle, warp or delaminate if it is not water resistant. > Gary Hodson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: richard mayor > To: healeys > Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 1:53 pm > Subject: [Healeys] Door card material > > I'm getting ready to make new door cards and trim my doors. My research > has found that people use everything including ABS plastic, foam board, > masonite and plywood. I'm leaning towards Baltic Birch plywood at this > point but I would like the infinite wisdom of this list before I go down > that, or any other, road. > _______________________________________________ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From 55healey at comcast.net Sat Oct 19 10:23:38 2019 From: 55healey at comcast.net (55healey at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 09:23:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Door card material In-Reply-To: References: <1554050463.5134158.1571495956604.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1554050463.5134158.1571495956604@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <07145618-0AA5-4410-A658-946186B28425@comcast.net> I used 18g. aluminum sheet, no problems with water. Rob > On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Roland Wilhelmy wrote: > > I used plywood from aircraft Spruce and Specialty. 3 ply. Finnish birch. Available in thicknesses from 1/64 ? up by 64ths. Tested to German Lloyd specs. Something like five hours in boiling salt water. > -Roland > > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 7:40 AM warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > What ever you use, consider that at some point in time they may get wet. For example, you might get caught in a heavy rain storm before you can find a spot to erect the top & install the side curtains (if your car has them). The material might buckle, warp or delaminate if it is not water resistant. > Gary Hodson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: richard mayor > To: healeys > Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 1:53 pm > Subject: [Healeys] Door card material > > I'm getting ready to make new door cards and trim my doors. My research has found that people use everything including ABS plastic, foam board, masonite and plywood. I'm leaning towards Baltic Birch plywood at this point but I would like the infinite wisdom of this list before I go down that, or any other, road From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Sat Oct 19 10:33:57 2019 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 16:33:57 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Door card material In-Reply-To: <07145618-0AA5-4410-A658-946186B28425@comcast.net> References: <07145618-0AA5-4410-A658-946186B28425@comcast.net> Message-ID: Hmmm Aluminum makes sense; I replaced Masonite with Masonite as it was easy to work with but not great once wet. I put my soft top on yesterday for the season but not the side curtains. Only took about 45 minutes. It was chilly not raining. What a PITA; Regards, Richard of KY BN7 440 > On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:23, "55healey at comcast.net" <55healey at comcast.net> wrote: > > ?I used 18g. aluminum sheet, no problems with water. > Rob > >> On Oct 19, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Roland Wilhelmy wrote: >> >> I used plywood from aircraft Spruce and Specialty. 3 ply. Finnish birch. Available in thicknesses from 1/64 ? up by 64ths. Tested to German Lloyd specs. Something like five hours in boiling salt water. >> -Roland >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 7:40 AM warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: >> What ever you use, consider that at some point in time they may get wet. For example, you might get caught in a heavy rain storm before you can find a spot to erect the top & install the side curtains (if your car has them). The material might buckle, warp or delaminate if it is not water resistant. >> Gary Hodson >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: richard mayor >> To: healeys >> Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 1:53 pm >> Subject: [Healeys] Door card material >> >> I'm getting ready to make new door cards and trim my doors. My research has found that people use everything including ABS plastic, foam board, masonite and plywood. I'm leaning towards Baltic Birch plywood at this point but I would like the infinite wisdom of this list before I go down that, or any other, From s.hutchings at rogers.com Sat Oct 19 11:08:08 2019 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 13:08:08 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Door card material In-Reply-To: <1554050463.5134158.1571495956604@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1554050463.5134158.1571495956604.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1554050463.5134158.1571495956604@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I bought commercially made ones, and then ended up carefully removing the upholstery and putting it over aluminum panels (someone else has suggested aluminum) because the original material was too thick. There was no way my doors were closing properly until I did this. Stephen, BJ8 > On Oct 19, 2019, at 10:39 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote: > > What ever you use, consider that at some point in time they may get wet. For example, you might get caught in a heavy rain storm before you can find a spot to erect the top & install the side curtains (if your car has them). The material might buckle, warp or delaminate if it is not water resistant. > Gary Hodson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: richard mayor > To: healeys > Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 1:53 pm > Subject: [Healeys] Door card material > > I'm getting ready to make new door cards and trim my doors. My research has found that people use everything including ABS plastic, foam board, masonite and plywood. I'm leaning towards Baltic Birch plywood at this point but I would like the infinite wisdom of this list before I go down that, or any other, road. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phoenix722 at comcast.net Sat Oct 19 15:10:28 2019 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 14:10:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] [OT-No Healey Content] Correlation vs Causation In-Reply-To: References: <5f6cd2f7-0757-ea22-fcdd-d1b92ce5756b@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9a95339f-54d6-8418-c784-03ce4f3365ef@comcast.net> Math conquers all. M On 10/7/2019 10:41 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > Brilliant ... :-) > > M > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 1:52 PM Bob Spidell > wrote: > > Came across this this morning: > > https://www.fastcompany.com/3030529/hilarious-graphs-prove-that-correlation-isnt-causation > > bs > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net > -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 19 16:03:59 2019 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 15:03:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] seat installation In-Reply-To: <001501d5866d$7d7d7970$78786c50$@ca> References: <000001d58631$742af730$5c80e590$@sbcglobal.net> <0FC0D340-BC1B-4AC4-819A-4BA340A5A8B1@accesscomm.ca> <001501d5866d$7d7d7970$78786c50$@ca> Message-ID: <000001d586c9$1c653180$552f9480$@sbcglobal.net> Definitely cut out around the seat runners. The ?T? bolts for the runners might not engage properly otherwise. Cheers, John From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Auto Farm Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 4:08 AM To: 'Engl' ; 'Healey List' Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation If a snap is installed on the front of that ?little sliver of carpet? then there is no problem. We always cut out around the seat runners. Cheers?..Bob From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Engl Sent: October-19-19 1:17 AM To: Healey List Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Harold I did likewise, but this method kind of negates the pull-the-carpet-when-it-gets-wet theorem. I agree with John,though, that if one did cut the carpet the slivers of carpet left would flop around and soon tear off. Bob England On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:07 PM, John Spaur > wrote: ? I installed mine on top of the carpet which I believe to be correct. If you don?t do it that way you will end up with a little sliver of carpet forward and aft of the belt attachment that will flop around. John ?62 BT7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Harold Manifold Sent: Friday, October 18, 2019 5:23 PM To: 'Healey List' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Another seat question. By BT7 did not have seat belts when originally built. I have purchased the hardware but don't know if the door side seat belt anchor is on top of the carpet or if the carpet trimmed around the anchor bracket? Picture of bracket is attached. Thanks ... Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:25 PM To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett Cc: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Len, There should be both a wood strip and a metal plate. I decided to glue my carpet to my sound/heat material feeling it would shield against wet carpets rusting my floorboards and trans tunnel . I could not get the snaps to pull the carpet down smoothly and it just looked terrible. The factory would have cut the carpet around the metal and wood, so you could remove your carpet to dry it out when it got wet. Much cheaper than actually working to keep the cars from leaking in the rain.\:) Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words Virus-free. www.avg.com On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:35 PM Len and/or Marge Hartnett > wrote: Bob and Brad: Curious about this thread, I took a look at my seat installation. Without removing the seat, wood, and alleged metal plate, I can say that my assembly sits ON the carpet. The carpet and seat installation was done quite a while ago. I may have referenced the Moss video but can't remember. However, as a novice doing this for the first time, I would have used the "remove/replace in reverse order" system implying that that was how the original seat was installed. I can not see if there is a metal plate in there but I do not see a picture or listing of such a plate in the Moss catalog, Seat Frames, Foams, Fittings.. (The Other) Len Fairfield, CA, USA 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob England To: bradh904 at gmail.com ; Healeys at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat installation Brad The carpet is cut to accommodate the seat slides. The seat slides sit on a piece of wood packing, which sits on a metal strip, which sits on the floor sheet metal. I can send photos if you like. BobE ?65 BJ8 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net ] On Behalf Of Dave Phillips Sent: October 17, 2019 9:04 AM To: Healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] seat installation I am about to install my newly done seats over my new carpet and have a question. Do the seat slides lay on and bolt thru the rear carpet pieces or do they mount directly to the floor and the carpet cut around the slides? 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Sorry it's been so long that this has been sitting waiting for it's part in the restoration I just don't remember who did this for me.? Today my dog knocked it over (the stator tube is installed).? It was leaning up against a corner of the room with a cotton cloth covering it to keep the dust out.? I put it back upright, but thought I should look at it and this is what I found.? Who on the list has parts for this?? Curt?? I can't even figure out how to take it apart to just send the head out for repair.Mike M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Sun Oct 20 18:28:17 2019 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 00:28:17 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438.ref@mail.yahoo.com>, <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Michael, Yes Curt Arndt rebuilds these, as a matter of fact I sent him one recently that was of a similar model. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Michael MacLean Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 5:01:18 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Accident I have a trafficator that was built by someone on the list. Sorry it's been so long that this has been sitting waiting for it's part in the restoration I just don't remember who did this for me. Today my dog knocked it over (the stator tube is installed). It was leaning up against a corner of the room with a cotton cloth covering it to keep the dust out. I put it back upright, but thought I should look at it and this is what I found. Who on the list has parts for this? Curt? I can't even figure out how to take it apart to just send the head out for repair. Mike M -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larry at patersondesign.ca Sun Oct 20 18:40:10 2019 From: larry at patersondesign.ca (Larry) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 18:40:10 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <470c59f0-48c4-4c13-a72a-9fdff88d6cfd@email.android.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Oct 21 01:59:49 2019 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 09:59:49 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Re Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: <718700573.299597.1571614189569@mymail.optimum.net> References: <718700573.299597.1571614189569@mymail.optimum.net> Message-ID: <0deef871-d255-37c4-dc61-a2041c5152f3@chello.nl> Better to use Araldite or similar 2-pack epoxy glue instead of superglue. Using this on Bakelite gives an extremely strong bond and fills up cracks/missing bits and is easy to polish and paint. I use it a lot to repair/restore Bakelite items (caps and bridges on SU fuel pumps, car radio knobs and fronts, car switches etc. Kees Oudesluijs Op 21-10-2019 om 01:29 schreef phillips: > > Michael, > > Just super glue the broken bakelite part back on and do a little skim > bodywork at the crack if needed ,prime and sand down with 400 and > repaint it again. Sanding primer may fill in any defects from the > crack anyway. > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 21 08:27:42 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 07:27:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Re Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: <0deef871-d255-37c4-dc61-a2041c5152f3@chello.nl> References: <718700573.299597.1571614189569@mymail.optimum.net> <0deef871-d255-37c4-dc61-a2041c5152f3@chello.nl> Message-ID: <17383cb7-6d98-de5c-797a-1e6805603ae2@comcast.net> I got curious and delved into--OK, I did a quick internet search--this mysterious 'Araldite' stuff and found, among other interesting tidbits: /Araldite was used beginning in 1940 in the production of the De Havilland Mosquito aircraft. /So, certainly it's suitable for our LBCs.? Unfortunately, however, it's made in some place called the 'UK,' making it difficult if not impossible to find on this side of The Pond (esp. without egregious shipping fees). bs ps.? Also, of note: "In 1983, British advertising agency FCO Univas set up a visual stunt presentation of the strength of Araldite adhesive by gluing a yellow Ford Cortina to a billboard on Cromwell Road, London, with the tagline "It also sticks handles to teapots".^[10] Later, to demonstrate more of its strength, a red Cortina was placed on top of the yellow Cortina, with the tagline "The tension mounts". Finally, the car was removed from the billboard, leaving a hole on the billboard and a tagline "How did we pull it off?". " // On 10/21/2019 12:59 AM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: > > Better to use Araldite or similar 2-pack epoxy glue instead of > superglue. Using this on Bakelite gives an extremely strong bond and > fills up cracks/missing bits and is easy to polish and paint. > > I use it a lot to repair/restore Bakelite items (caps and bridges on > SU fuel pumps, car radio knobs and fronts, car switches etc. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > Op 21-10-2019 om 01:29 schreef phillips: >> >> Michael, >> >> Just super glue the broken bakelite part back on and do a little skim >> bodywork at the crack if needed ,prime and sand down with 400 and >> repaint it again. Sanding primer may fill in any defects from the >> crack anyway. >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 21 08:31:12 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 07:31:12 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Re Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: <17383cb7-6d98-de5c-797a-1e6805603ae2@comcast.net> References: <718700573.299597.1571614189569@mymail.optimum.net> <0deef871-d255-37c4-dc61-a2041c5152f3@chello.nl> <17383cb7-6d98-de5c-797a-1e6805603ae2@comcast.net> Message-ID: pps.? Apparently, it's available in the Brazilian jungle (a little closer to home): https://www.amazon.com/Araldite-ARA-400001-Standard-2-Tubes-Epoxy/dp/B00AU0MW1K Kees, is this the formulation you recommend? Bob On 10/21/2019 7:27 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: > I got curious and delved into--OK, I did a quick internet search--this > mysterious 'Araldite' stuff and found, among other interesting tidbits: > > /Araldite was used beginning in 1940 in the production of the De > Havilland Mosquito aircraft. > > /So, certainly it's suitable for our LBCs.? Unfortunately, however, > it's made in some place called the 'UK,' making it difficult if not > impossible to find on this side of The Pond (esp. without egregious > shipping fees). > > bs > > ps.? Also, of note: > > "In 1983, British advertising agency FCO Univas set up a visual stunt > presentation of the strength of Araldite adhesive by gluing a yellow > Ford Cortina to a > billboard on Cromwell Road, London, with the tagline "It also sticks > handles to teapots".^[10] > Later, to > demonstrate more of its strength, a red Cortina was placed on top of > the yellow Cortina, with the tagline "The tension mounts". Finally, > the car was removed from the billboard, leaving a hole on the > billboard and a tagline "How did we pull it off?". " > > > > On 10/21/2019 12:59 AM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: >> >> Better to use Araldite or similar 2-pack epoxy glue instead of >> superglue. Using this on Bakelite gives an extremely strong bond and >> fills up cracks/missing bits and is easy to polish and paint. >> >> I use it a lot to repair/restore Bakelite items (caps and bridges on >> SU fuel pumps, car radio knobs and fronts, car switches etc. >> >> Kees Oudesluijs >> >> >> Op 21-10-2019 om 01:29 schreef phillips: >>> >>> Michael, >>> >>> Just super glue the broken bakelite part back on and do a little >>> skim bodywork at the crack if needed ,prime and sand down with 400 >>> and repaint it again. Sanding primer may fill in any defects from >>> the crack anyway. >>> >>> >>> > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Mon Oct 21 09:08:05 2019 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 17:08:05 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Re Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: References: <718700573.299597.1571614189569@mymail.optimum.net> <0deef871-d255-37c4-dc61-a2041c5152f3@chello.nl> <17383cb7-6d98-de5c-797a-1e6805603ae2@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3f14fa9c-c3cb-6fb8-5a4b-c3d797e281bc@chello.nl> That is the one, however I am sure there are equivalent brands of epoxy glues available in the US. I have used Araldite all my tinkering life and found it very good. Kees Oudesluijs Op 21-10-2019 om 16:31 schreef Bob Spidell: > pps.? Apparently, it's available in the Brazilian jungle (a little > closer to home): > > https://www.amazon.com/Araldite-ARA-400001-Standard-2-Tubes-Epoxy/dp/B00AU0MW1K > > Kees, is this the formulation you recommend? > > Bob > > On 10/21/2019 7:27 AM, Bob Spidell wrote: >> I got curious and delved into--OK, I did a quick internet >> search--this mysterious 'Araldite' stuff and found, among other >> interesting tidbits: >> >> /Araldite was used beginning in 1940 in the production of the De >> Havilland Mosquito aircraft. >> >> /So, certainly it's suitable for our LBCs.? Unfortunately, however, >> it's made in some place called the 'UK,' making it difficult if not >> impossible to find on this side of The Pond (esp. without egregious >> shipping fees). >> >> bs >> >> ps.? Also, of note: >> >> "In 1983, British advertising agency FCO Univas set up a visual stunt >> presentation of the strength of Araldite adhesive by gluing a yellow >> Ford Cortina to a >> billboard on Cromwell Road, London, with the tagline "It also sticks >> handles to teapots".^[10] >> Later, to >> demonstrate more of its strength, a red Cortina was placed on top of >> the yellow Cortina, with the tagline "The tension mounts". Finally, >> the car was removed from the billboard, leaving a hole on the >> billboard and a tagline "How did we pull it off?". " >> >> >> >> On 10/21/2019 12:59 AM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote: >>> >>> Better to use Araldite or similar 2-pack epoxy glue instead of >>> superglue. Using this on Bakelite gives an extremely strong bond and >>> fills up cracks/missing bits and is easy to polish and paint. >>> >>> I use it a lot to repair/restore Bakelite items (caps and bridges on >>> SU fuel pumps, car radio knobs and fronts, car switches etc. >>> >>> Kees Oudesluijs >>> >>> >>> Op 21-10-2019 om 01:29 schreef phillips: >>>> >>>> Michael, >>>> >>>> Just super glue the broken bakelite part back on and do a little >>>> skim bodywork at the crack if needed ,prime and sand down with 400 >>>> and repaint it again. Sanding primer may fill in any defects from >>>> the crack anyway. >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Oct 21 11:18:10 2019 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 13:18:10 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Michael-- Can't help with the trafficator but before you get rid of the dog contact me. Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 6:01 PM Michael MacLean wrote: > I have a trafficator that was built by someone on the list. Sorry it's > been so long that this has been sitting waiting for it's part in the > restoration I just don't remember who did this for me. Today my dog > knocked it over (the stator tube is installed). It was leaning up against > a corner of the room with a cotton cloth covering it to keep the dust out. > I put it back upright, but thought I should look at it and this is what I > found. Who on the list has parts for this? Curt? I can't even figure out > how to take it apart to just send the head out for repair. > Mike M > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon Oct 21 15:25:54 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 08:25:54 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Re Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: <3f14fa9c-c3cb-6fb8-5a4b-c3d797e281bc@chello.nl> References: <718700573.299597.1571614189569@mymail.optimum.net> <0deef871-d255-37c4-dc61-a2041c5152f3@chello.nl> <17383cb7-6d98-de5c-797a-1e6805603ae2@comcast.net> <3f14fa9c-c3cb-6fb8-5a4b-c3d797e281bc@chello.nl> Message-ID: <007701d58856$20b2ee60$6218cb20$@tpg.com.au> Hello Araldite is readily available in Australia in a number of forms. A version that takes five minutes to set, another version that takes close on to a day. Both of these are a clear two pack liquid. There is also a two pack Araldite putty which is excellent. I have used the putty to seal a hole on the spark plug side of a 100 cylinder head. The head had been drilled to accept coolant entry over the location of the exhaust valves. The putty set rock hard and did its job perfectly for many years. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kees Oudesluijs Sent: Tuesday, 22 October 2019 2:08 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Re Trafficator Accident That is the one, however I am sure there are equivalent brands of epoxy glues available in the US. I have used Araldite all my tinkering life and found it very good. Kees Oudesluijs -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 21 16:00:42 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:00:42 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Re Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: <007701d58856$20b2ee60$6218cb20$@tpg.com.au> References: <718700573.299597.1571614189569@mymail.optimum.net> <0deef871-d255-37c4-dc61-a2041c5152f3@chello.nl> <17383cb7-6d98-de5c-797a-1e6805603ae2@comcast.net> <3f14fa9c-c3cb-6fb8-5a4b-c3d797e281bc@chello.nl> <007701d58856$20b2ee60$6218cb20$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <1162da1a-56f7-f379-1711-47fb116c06ae@comcast.net> Here in the States we have stuff called 'JB Weld' which makes similar claims and has many adherents. On 10/21/2019 2:25 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: > > Hello > > Araldite is readily available in Australia in a number of forms. A > version that takes five minutes to set, another version that takes > close on to a day. Both of these are a clear two pack liquid. There is > also a two pack Araldite putty which is excellent. > > I have used the putty to seal a hole on the spark plug side of a 100 > cylinder head. The head had been drilled to accept coolant entry over > the location of the exhaust valves. The putty set rock hard and did > its job perfectly for many years. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of > *Kees Oudesluijs > *Sent:* Tuesday, 22 October 2019 2:08 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Re Trafficator Accident > > That is the one, however I am sure there are equivalent brands of > epoxy glues available in the US. > > I have used Araldite all my tinkering life and found it very good. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Mon Oct 21 21:34:29 2019 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 20:34:29 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?accident?= Message-ID: <20191022033429.22375.qmail@server278.com> i do not have good luck painting bakelite. someone on the list years ago suggested india ink followed by black shoe polish. not sure how long the application lasts. From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Mon Oct 21 21:55:32 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 14:55:32 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] accident In-Reply-To: <20191022033429.22375.qmail@server278.com> References: <20191022033429.22375.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <014801d5888c$8e9ed2f0$abdc78d0$@tpg.com.au> My memory tells me that it is not Bakelite, which is an early form of plastic. I recall reading that it was a compression of sawdust and other things. I have successfully sanded one back and sparingly used India Ink which is allowed to dry followed by black shoe polish in many applications. The original finish is not entirely smooth nor full gloss as you would get from paint. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeymanjim Sent: Tuesday, 22 October 2019 2:34 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] accident i do not have good luck painting bakelite. someone on the list years ago suggested india ink followed by black shoe polish. not sure how long the application lasts. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From eyera3000 at gmail.com Mon Oct 21 22:06:05 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 21:06:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Austin-Healey-All-Models-Trafficator-Center-Plate/333360904068?hash=item4d9ddbb784:g:hdQAAOSwBA1cdbyC FYI Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 3:02 PM Michael MacLean wrote: > I have a trafficator that was built by someone on the list. Sorry it's > been so long that this has been sitting waiting for it's part in the > restoration I just don't remember who did this for me. Today my dog > knocked it over (the stator tube is installed). It was leaning up against > a corner of the room with a cotton cloth covering it to keep the dust out. > I put it back upright, but thought I should look at it and this is what I > found. Who on the list has parts for this? Curt? I can't even figure out > how to take it apart to just send the head out for repair. > Mike M > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 21 22:20:27 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 21:20:27 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: References: <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <59865be8-a16d-6d43-d952-140ddc39fc43@comcast.net> Note it's a repop. On 10/21/2019 9:06 PM, i erbs wrote: > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Austin-Healey-All-Models-Trafficator-Center-Plate/333360904068?hash=item4d9ddbb784:g:hdQAAOSwBA1cdbyC > > FYI > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > ? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes > > > 1967 MGB MG > > A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti > Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words > > > On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 3:02 PM Michael MacLean > > wrote: > > I have a trafficator that was built by someone on the list.? Sorry > it's been so long that this has been sitting waiting for it's part > in the restoration I just don't remember who did this for me. > Today my dog knocked it over (the stator tube is installed).? It > was leaning up against a corner of the room with a cotton cloth > covering it to keep the dust out.? I put it back upright, but > thought I should look at it and this is what I found.? Who on the > list has parts for this?? Curt?? I can't even figure out how to > take it apart to just send the head out for repair. > Mike M > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Mon Oct 21 22:37:53 2019 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 04:37:53 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] accident In-Reply-To: <014801d5888c$8e9ed2f0$abdc78d0$@tpg.com.au> References: <20191022033429.22375.qmail@server278.com>, <014801d5888c$8e9ed2f0$abdc78d0$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Patrick, I agree with you, I have cleaned, sanded with a 3M scratchpad some Bakelite trafficator and then applied up to three coats of India ink, allowed it to dry for about a day and then followed by a couple coats of shoe polish and buffed it to a medium lustre. No shiny like being painted and clear coated but they were not that way to start with. It gave very satisfactory results but lasted only about three years and I had to redo it again. Jean Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 10:55:32 PM To: 'healeymanjim' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] accident My memory tells me that it is not Bakelite, which is an early form of plastic. I recall reading that it was a compression of sawdust and other things. I have successfully sanded one back and sparingly used India Ink which is allowed to dry followed by black shoe polish in many applications. The original finish is not entirely smooth nor full gloss as you would get from paint. 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URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Mon Oct 21 22:57:43 2019 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Robert Begani) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:57:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel repair Message-ID: <172501d58895$3dd12900$b9737b00$@gmail.com> While we are on the subject of repairing the Trafficator and Bakelite, for forty years my steering wheel has been wrapped in a leather cover which hides the cracked and missing pieces of the plastic looking material where the round wheel meats the spokes. I seem to remember there is a process to repair and/or fill in the voids. Does anyone on this list have a suggestion? Regards, Bob Begani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 21 23:07:19 2019 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 22:07:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] accident In-Reply-To: <20191022033429.22375.qmail@server278.com> References: <20191022033429.22375.qmail@server278.com> Message-ID: <000001d58896$950592a0$bf10b7e0$@sbcglobal.net> It works well but needs to be renewed occasionally. -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeymanjim Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:34 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] accident i do not have good luck painting bakelite. someone on the list years ago suggested india ink followed by black shoe polish. not sure how long the application lasts. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 21 23:09:15 2019 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 22:09:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] accident In-Reply-To: <014801d5888c$8e9ed2f0$abdc78d0$@tpg.com.au> References: <20191022033429.22375.qmail@server278.com> <014801d5888c$8e9ed2f0$abdc78d0$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <000b01d58896$da580090$8f0801b0$@sbcglobal.net> Bakelite is made with, among other things, wood "flour" (sawdust) and can contain asbestos. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakelite John San Jose, CA -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick & Caroline Quinn Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:56 PM To: 'healeymanjim' ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] accident My memory tells me that it is not Bakelite, which is an early form of plastic. I recall reading that it was a compression of sawdust and other things. I have successfully sanded one back and sparingly used India Ink which is allowed to dry followed by black shoe polish in many applications. The original finish is not entirely smooth nor full gloss as you would get from paint. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 21 23:16:14 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 22:16:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] accident In-Reply-To: <000b01d58896$da580090$8f0801b0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <20191022033429.22375.qmail@server278.com> <014801d5888c$8e9ed2f0$abdc78d0$@tpg.com.au> <000b01d58896$da580090$8f0801b0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <444beea4-f946-6d22-9916-f577fc972288@comcast.net> More errata. On 10/21/2019 10:09 PM, John Spaur wrote: > Bakelite is made with, among other things, wood "flour" (sawdust) and can > contain asbestos. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bakelite > > John > San Jose, CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick & > Caroline Quinn > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:56 PM > To: 'healeymanjim' ; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] accident > > My memory tells me that it is not Bakelite, which is an early form of > plastic. I recall reading that it was a compression of sawdust and other > things. > > I have successfully sanded one back and sparingly used India Ink which is > allowed to dry followed by black shoe polish in many applications. The > original finish is not entirely smooth nor full gloss as you would get from > paint. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Blue Mountains, Australia > > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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When the surface is perfect you spray on a couple of coats of epoxy primer, followed by sandable primer, Sanding, followed by automotive hardened urethane paint (maybe base coat clear coat will work, I didn't do that). The result looks great and hasn't cracked again in two years. -Roland BN1 #724 now on the road On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 00:57:43 -0400, you wrote: >While we are on the subject of repairing the Trafficator and Bakelite, for forty years my steering wheel has been wrapped in a leather cover which hides the cracked and missing pieces of the plastic looking material where the round wheel meats the spokes. I seem to remember there is a process to repair and/or fill in the voids. Does anyone on this list have a suggestion? > > > >Regards, > > > >Bob Begani From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 21 23:37:19 2019 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 22:37:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel repair In-Reply-To: <172501d58895$3dd12900$b9737b00$@gmail.com> References: <172501d58895$3dd12900$b9737b00$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000c01d5889a$c6103630$5230a290$@sbcglobal.net> The steering wheels are some type of plastic molded over a steel hoop. In the process of my Healeys' restoration, I kept my original cracked steering wheel stored in a bag. When I removed it to assess how to restore it, the outer hoop literally disintegrated and turned to dust in my hands. My opinion is a cracked steering wheel, even if repaired, is dangerous because the interior steel hoop can continue to corrode and fall apart at any time. Regards, John Spaur From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 9:58 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel repair While we are on the subject of repairing the Trafficator and Bakelite, for forty years my steering wheel has been wrapped in a leather cover which hides the cracked and missing pieces of the plastic looking material where the round wheel meats the spokes. I seem to remember there is a process to repair and/or fill in the voids. Does anyone on this list have a suggestion? Regards, Bob Begani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is my business, and what funds my restoration projects. Mike, Give me a call, and then send me your switch and I will fix it for you, and of course I will NOT charge you since you've freely given me parts, advice and friendship these many years. BTW, yes, Bakelite is an early form of plastic made using wood particles (SAWDUST) mixed with a formaldehyde formula and baked under pressure. Cheers, Curt On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 3:02 PM Michael MacLean wrote: > I have a trafficator that was built by someone on the list. Sorry it's > been so long that this has been sitting waiting for it's part in the > restoration I just don't remember who did this for me. Today my dog > knocked it over (the stator tube is installed). It was leaning up against > a corner of the room with a cotton cloth covering it to keep the dust out. > I put it back upright, but thought I should look at it and this is what I > found. Who on the list has parts for this? Curt? I can't even figure out > how to take it apart to just send the head out for repair. > Mike M > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Austin Healey Flyer Pictures.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 157597 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Austin Healey-AC Trafficator Restoration Flyer-VIIC.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 435096 bytes Desc: not available URL: From 55healey at comcast.net Tue Oct 22 00:01:50 2019 From: 55healey at comcast.net (55healey at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 23:01:50 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: References: <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Seems like something that could be 3-D printed. Rob > On Oct 21, 2019, at 9:06 PM, i erbs wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/Austin-Healey-All-Models-Trafficator-Center-Plate/333360904068?hash=item4d9ddbb784:g:hdQAAOSwBA1cdbyC > FYI > Ira Erbs > Portland,OR > _______ _______ > (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) > (_________________________) > BT7 engine and disk brakes From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Tue Oct 22 00:30:00 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 17:30:00 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Accident In-Reply-To: References: <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1903315904.4298890.1571608878438@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <017c01d588a2$22d065a0$687130e0$@tpg.com.au> Hello I recently had a steering wheel from a Healey Three-Litre Convertible restored by this business here in Australia. Sent away a rusted ring, spokes with centre and got back a new steering wheel. Beautiful work. Have a look at:- https://www.yesteryearsteeringwheels.com.au/ Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 55healey at comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, 22 October 2019 5:02 PM To: i erbs Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Trafficator Accident Seems like something that could be 3-D printed. Rob _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From rrengineer.mike at att.net Tue Oct 22 00:56:32 2019 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 06:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel repair In-Reply-To: <000c01d5889a$c6103630$5230a290$@sbcglobal.net> References: <172501d58895$3dd12900$b9737b00$@gmail.com> <000c01d5889a$c6103630$5230a290$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1475402453.234078.1571727392023@mail.yahoo.com> I have used these guys with great success. Vintage VW Steering Wheel Restoration - Canyon Country, California - Koch's | | | | | | | | | | | Vintage VW Steering Wheel Restoration - Canyon Country, California - Koch's Vintage VW steering wheel restoration since 1990. We restore all types of steering wheels. | | | Mike MacLean On Monday, October 21, 2019, 10:38:21 PM PDT, John Spaur wrote: #yiv0974234205 #yiv0974234205 -- _filtered #yiv0974234205 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv0974234205 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv0974234205 #yiv0974234205 p.yiv0974234205MsoNormal, #yiv0974234205 li.yiv0974234205MsoNormal, #yiv0974234205 div.yiv0974234205MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv0974234205 a:link, #yiv0974234205 span.yiv0974234205MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0974234205 a:visited, #yiv0974234205 span.yiv0974234205MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv0974234205 span.yiv0974234205EmailStyle17 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none none;}#yiv0974234205 span.yiv0974234205EmailStyle18 {font-family:sans-serif;color:#1F497D;}#yiv0974234205 .yiv0974234205MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv0974234205 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv0974234205 div.yiv0974234205WordSection1 {}#yiv0974234205 The steering wheels are some type of plastic molded over a steel hoop. In the process of my Healeys? restoration, I kept my original cracked steering wheel stored in a bag. When I removed it to assess how to restore it, the outer hoop literally disintegrated and turned to dust in my hands. My opinion is a cracked steering wheel, even if repaired, is dangerous because the interior steel hoop can continue to corrode and fall apart at any time. ? Regards, John Spaur ? From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 9:58 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel repair ? While we are on the subject of repairing the Trafficator and Bakelite, for forty years my steering wheel has been wrapped in a leather cover which hides the cracked and missing pieces of the plastic looking material where the round wheel meats the spokes.? I seem to remember there is a process to repair and/or fill in the voids.? Does anyone on this list have a suggestion? ? Regards, ? Bob Begani _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Tue Oct 22 01:40:05 2019 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Robert Begani) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 03:40:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel repair In-Reply-To: <1475402453.234078.1571727392023@mail.yahoo.com> References: <172501d58895$3dd12900$b9737b00$@gmail.com> <000c01d5889a$c6103630$5230a290$@sbcglobal.net> <1475402453.234078.1571727392023@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <185d01d588ab$ec321cf0$c49656d0$@gmail.com> All great suggestions. I believe this will be a SKI repair for the Healey. SKI means Spend the Kids Inheritance. So I will send it off to be restored by a professional this summer. Now how do I get it off without breaking any more of the wheel which by the way is perfectly good for driving as I believe the leather cover is keeping it together. Frankly, when comparing the California with the Aussie presentation, the Australians win hands down. Remember SKI purchases for the Healey, for that long distance first class vacation and so on. Bob Begani From: Michael MacLean Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 2:57 AM To: 'Robert Begani' ; healeys at autox.team.net; John Spaur Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering wheel repair I have used these guys with great success. Vintage VW Steering Wheel Restoration - Canyon Country, California - Koch's Vintage VW Steering Wheel Restoration - Canyon Country, California - Koch's Vintage VW steering wheel restoration since 1990. We restore all types of steering wheels. Mike MacLean On Monday, October 21, 2019, 10:38:21 PM PDT, John Spaur > wrote: The steering wheels are some type of plastic molded over a steel hoop. In the process of my Healeys? restoration, I kept my original cracked steering wheel stored in a bag. When I removed it to assess how to restore it, the outer hoop literally disintegrated and turned to dust in my hands. My opinion is a cracked steering wheel, even if repaired, is dangerous because the interior steel hoop can continue to corrode and fall apart at any time. Regards, John Spaur From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 9:58 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel repair While we are on the subject of repairing the Trafficator and Bakelite, for forty years my steering wheel has been wrapped in a leather cover which hides the cracked and missing pieces of the plastic looking material where the round wheel meats the spokes. I seem to remember there is a process to repair and/or fill in the voids. Does anyone on this list have a suggestion? Regards, Bob Begani _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 1642 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.emz Type: application/octet-stream Size: 4873 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Rich Chrysler of blessed memory also wrote an article on it that should be in someone's archives, maybe BN6? -Roland On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 06:56:32 +0000 (UTC), you wrote: > I have used these guys with great success. >Vintage VW Steering Wheel Restoration - Canyon Country, California - Koch's > > From ahbn6 at verizon.net Tue Oct 22 10:44:19 2019 From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (ahbn6 at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 12:44:19 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel repair In-Reply-To: References: <172501d58895$3dd12900$b9737b00$@gmail.com> <000c01d5889a$c6103630$5230a290$@sbcglobal.net> <1475402453.234078.1571727392023@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001001d588f7$f3f05050$dbd0f0f0$@verizon.net> Look at: http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Steering%20Wheel%20Finishing.pdf for an article by Roger Moment on instructions to repair a steering wheel. You may have to magnify the page to 150 magfication. At least I had to John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of sentenac.rw at gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:32 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering wheel repair Koch's has a good reputation, as I remember from my air cooled VW days. I think they wrote the book on steering wheel restoration that I have somewhere. Rich Chrysler of blessed memory also wrote an article on it that should be in someone's archives, maybe BN6? -Roland On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 06:56:32 +0000 (UTC), you wrote: > I have used these guys with great success. >Vintage VW Steering Wheel Restoration - Canyon Country, California - >Koch's > > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net From rrengineer.mike at att.net Tue Oct 22 12:22:09 2019 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 18:22:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Steering wheel repair In-Reply-To: <001001d588f7$f3f05050$dbd0f0f0$@verizon.net> References: <172501d58895$3dd12900$b9737b00$@gmail.com> <000c01d5889a$c6103630$5230a290$@sbcglobal.net> <1475402453.234078.1571727392023@mail.yahoo.com> <001001d588f7$f3f05050$dbd0f0f0$@verizon.net> Message-ID: <458325640.542237.1571768529161@mail.yahoo.com> https://smile.amazon.com/Eastwood-Steering-Wheel-Restoration-Book/dp/B07Q4FDLR7/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=Steering+wheel+restoration+handbook&qid=1571768468&sr=8-5 Mike MacLean On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 9:44:25 AM PDT, wrote: Look at: http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Steering%20Wheel%20Finishing.pdf for an article by Roger Moment on instructions to repair a steering wheel. You may have to magnify the page to 150 magfication. At least I had to John Sims www.healey6.com Matawan, NJ -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of sentenac.rw at gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:32 PM To: Michael MacLean Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering wheel repair Koch's has a good reputation, as I remember from my air cooled VW days.? I think they wrote the book on steering wheel restoration that I have somewhere. Rich Chrysler of blessed memory also wrote an article on it that should be in someone's archives, maybe BN6? -Roland On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 06:56:32 +0000 (UTC), you wrote: > I have used these guys with great success. >Vintage VW Steering Wheel Restoration - Canyon Country, California - >Koch's > > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ahbn6 at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deejay2650 at gmail.com Tue Oct 22 17:16:41 2019 From: deejay2650 at gmail.com (Deejay2650 .) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 10:16:41 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Trafficator Accident Message-ID: G'day All, *Refinishing the Bakelite Head* I have lost the source of these instructions or I would give attribution, but clean the head well and wipe with a liquid cleaner like the type used before spray painting metal.(Prepsol or Wax and Grease Remover Then apply black India ink or (If you can get it, Waproo Raven Oil, black powerful oil stain)? I used two coats letting the first coat dry for about an hour before applying the second. Then use black paste shoe polish rubbed in well. Polish. Reapply paste and polish again. Finally, apply a coat of carnuba wax for protection and final shine. Be very careful to not drop the bakelite head! I recommend doing all the polishing over a carpeted floor in case the head is dropped. This should result in a control head that looks brand new. 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He could probably sell a bundle, as they are the likeliest point of failure. On 10/21/2019 11:01 PM, 55healey at comcast.net wrote: > Seems like something that could be 3-D printed. > > Rob > >> On Oct 21, 2019, at 9:06 PM, i erbs wrote: >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Austin-Healey-All-Models-Trafficator-Center-Plate/333360904068?hash=item4d9ddbb784:g:hdQAAOSwBA1cdbyC >> FYI >> Ira Erbs >> Portland,OR >> _______ _______ >> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) >> (_________________________) >> BT7 engine and disk brakes > > From boyracer466 at gmail.com Wed Oct 23 10:57:45 2019 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 09:57:45 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Spare tire Message-ID: Since I'm planning on a long distance drive next Spring to the Healey Meet in California, I thought I should have a spare tire in the boot. So far, the best thing I've found is a Kumho 125x80, 22.9 " OD, fits a 4" rim, $60 at Discount Tire. It only weighs 9 lbs. Any other suggestions? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Oct 23 11:10:11 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 10:10:11 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Spare tire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <75446cfd-6b93-4a8b-b41f-3e62a0c609dd@comcast.net> If you're asking about the Kumho brand, I have a set on my Ranger and they've been good tires. I don't recall the OD on a 'stock' tire offhand, but that sounds kinda small; could be an issue if you had to put one on the rear and drive very far. Bob On 10/23/2019 9:57 AM, richard mayor wrote: > Since I'm planning on a long distance drive next Spring to the Healey > Meet in California, I thought I should have a spare tire in the boot.? > So far, the best thing I've found is a Kumho 125x80, 22.9 " OD, fits a > 4" rim, $60 at Discount Tire. It only weighs 9 lbs. > Any other suggestions? > From s.hutchings at rogers.com Wed Oct 23 16:22:27 2019 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:22:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] More on exhaust Message-ID: After that long thread on down pipes, I have an exhaust question for you. I had sealed my down pipe/ manifold seams with gaskets made from Remflex (graphite based material) and it worked very well. I pressurized my system and don?t appear to have any leaks. My complaint is that I get exhaust blowing into the cockpit- when I?ve got the top down and I?m sitting in traffic- if I have the top up and the back window unzipped, especially with the door windows up. As long as I?m moving when the top?s down I?m OK, and if I have the cockpit all closed up it?s fine as well. Now I realize you?re bound to get some exhaust smell, depending on which way the wind is blowing, but I?m wondering if I should try to find some exhaust tips that point down, or maybe lengthen them a little. I guess we?re all used to much cleaner tail pipe emissions, but I really find every stoplight an ordeal?I know, Healeys aren?t made for city traffic, but I?m usually on my way out of town! Stephen, BJ8 From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Wed Oct 23 16:36:31 2019 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 23:36:31 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Start up to smooth running Message-ID: <000001d589f2$52ffe290$f8ffa7b0$@alexarevel.plus.com> How long does it take you guys - let's say 6 cylinder cars - from cold start to smooth running with choke fully in? Thanks, Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.hutchings at rogers.com Wed Oct 23 16:43:33 2019 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:43:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Start up to smooth running In-Reply-To: <000001d589f2$52ffe290$f8ffa7b0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d589f2$52ffe290$f8ffa7b0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: I would give it about ten - fifteen minutes. I used to to push the choke in too early, and then I'd get the popping from the carbs because the mixture is too weak?so now I get it good and warmed up before I push it all the way in. I?ve got some extra springs on the carb jet arms that make sure they return all the way. Stephen, BJ8 > On Oct 23, 2019, at 6:36 PM, wrote: > > How long does it take you guys ? let?s say 6 cylinder cars ? from cold start to smooth running with choke fully in? > Thanks, > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Wed Oct 23 16:50:28 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 15:50:28 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] More on exhaust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tailpipe extensions that point down help some Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 3:23 PM Stephen Hutchings wrote: > After that long thread on down pipes, I have an exhaust question for you. > I had sealed my down pipe/ manifold seams with gaskets made from Remflex > (graphite based material) > and it worked very well. I pressurized my system and don?t appear to have > any leaks. > > My complaint is that I get exhaust blowing into the cockpit- when I?ve got > the top down and I?m sitting in traffic- if I have the top up and the back > window unzipped, especially with the door windows up. > As long as I?m moving when the top?s down I?m OK, and if I have the > cockpit all closed up it?s fine as well. > Now I realize you?re bound to get some exhaust smell, depending on which > way the wind is blowing, but I?m wondering if I should try to find some > exhaust tips that point down, or maybe lengthen them a little. > I guess we?re all used to much cleaner tail pipe emissions, but I really > find every stoplight an ordeal?I know, Healeys aren?t made for city > traffic, but I?m usually on my way out of town! > > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Wed Oct 23 16:51:31 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 15:51:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Start up to smooth running In-Reply-To: References: <000001d589f2$52ffe290$f8ffa7b0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Really depends on how cold it is. But 8-10 min sounds right Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 3:44 PM Stephen Hutchings wrote: > I would give it about ten - fifteen minutes. I used to to push the choke > in too early, and then I'd get the popping from the carbs because the > mixture is too weak?so now I get it good and warmed up before I push it all > the way in. I?ve got some extra springs on the carb jet arms that make sure > they return all the way. > > Stephen, BJ8 > > On Oct 23, 2019, at 6:36 PM, < > simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> wrote: > > How long does it take you guys ? let?s say 6 cylinder cars ? from cold > start to smooth running with choke fully in? > Thanks, > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 23 20:45:56 2019 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 02:45:56 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] More on exhaust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My wife won?t ride in mine due to exhaust backwash. Regards, Richard Of Ky BN7 440 On Oct 23, 2019, at 17:50, i erbs wrote: ? Tailpipe extensions that point down help some Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 3:23 PM Stephen Hutchings > wrote: After that long thread on down pipes, I have an exhaust question for you. I had sealed my down pipe/ manifold seams with gaskets made from Remflex (graphite based material) and it worked very well. I pressurized my system and don?t appear to have any leaks. My complaint is that I get exhaust blowing into the cockpit- when I?ve got the top down and I?m sitting in traffic- if I have the top up and the back window unzipped, especially with the door windows up. As long as I?m moving when the top?s down I?m OK, and if I have the cockpit all closed up it?s fine as well. Now I realize you?re bound to get some exhaust smell, depending on which way the wind is blowing, but I?m wondering if I should try to find some exhaust tips that point down, or maybe lengthen them a little. I guess we?re all used to much cleaner tail pipe emissions, but I really find every stoplight an ordeal?I know, Healeys aren?t made for city traffic, but I?m usually on my way out of town! Stephen, BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Wed Oct 23 20:49:50 2019 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 02:49:50 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Start up to smooth running In-Reply-To: <000001d589f2$52ffe290$f8ffa7b0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <000001d589f2$52ffe290$f8ffa7b0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: About 3-5 miles on mine and squeeze the throttle gently to avoid some popping. After around 130 on the temp gauge no problem Regards, Richard of KY BN7 440 On Oct 23, 2019, at 17:36, "simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com" wrote: ? How long does it take you guys ? let?s say 6 cylinder cars ? from cold start to smooth running with choke fully in? Thanks, Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Wed Oct 23 21:01:55 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 20:01:55 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] More on exhaust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tailpipes should extend at least an inch and, preferably, two, beyond the? edge of the bumper (IMO, of course). On 10/23/2019 3:22 PM, Stephen Hutchings wrote: > After that long thread on down pipes, I have an exhaust question for you. > I had sealed my down pipe/ manifold seams with gaskets made from Remflex (graphite based material) > and it worked very well. I pressurized my system and don?t appear to have any leaks. > > My complaint is that I get exhaust blowing into the cockpit- when I?ve got the top down and I?m sitting in traffic- if I have the top up and the back window unzipped, especially with the door windows up. > As long as I?m moving when the top?s down I?m OK, and if I have the cockpit all closed up it?s fine as well. > Now I realize you?re bound to get some exhaust smell, depending on which way the wind is blowing, but I?m wondering if I should try to find some exhaust tips that point down, or maybe lengthen them a little. > I guess we?re all used to much cleaner tail pipe emissions, but I really find every stoplight an ordeal?I know, Healeys aren?t made for city traffic, but I?m usually on my way out of town! > > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 23 23:32:31 2019 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 22:32:31 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Spare tire In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001d58a2c$6f6594e0$4e30bea0$@sbcglobal.net> Match the tire size of the other 4. From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of richard mayor Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 9:58 AM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Spare tire Since I'm planning on a long distance drive next Spring to the Healey Meet in California, I thought I should have a spare tire in the boot. So far, the best thing I've found is a Kumho 125x80, 22.9 " OD, fits a 4" rim, $60 at Discount Tire. It only weighs 9 lbs. Any other suggestions? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Oct 24 00:30:47 2019 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 08:30:47 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] More on exhaust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2bc5282e-d3ff-8a71-c8f3-4003d54c1d0e@chello.nl> Because of air circulation and pressure differences in and outside the vehicle you often get exhaust fumes entering the cabin of a car with a window open when driving or even when e.g. a boot seal is not 100%. Modern cars probably are less affected because of a better streamline. Elongating the tail pipes and/or bend down tips may work but is not a sure success. Kees Oudesluijs Op 24-10-2019 om 00:22 schreef Stephen Hutchings: > After that long thread on down pipes, I have an exhaust question for you. > I had sealed my down pipe/ manifold seams with gaskets made from Remflex (graphite based material) > and it worked very well. I pressurized my system and don?t appear to have any leaks. > > My complaint is that I get exhaust blowing into the cockpit- when I?ve got the top down and I?m sitting in traffic- if I have the top up and the back window unzipped, especially with the door windows up. > As long as I?m moving when the top?s down I?m OK, and if I have the cockpit all closed up it?s fine as well. > Now I realize you?re bound to get some exhaust smell, depending on which way the wind is blowing, but I?m wondering if I should try to find some exhaust tips that point down, or maybe lengthen them a little. > I guess we?re all used to much cleaner tail pipe emissions, but I really find every stoplight an ordeal?I know, Healeys aren?t made for city traffic, but I?m usually on my way out of town! > > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > From michaelsalter at gmail.com Thu Oct 24 06:21:20 2019 From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 08:21:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] More on exhaust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I encountered the same problem with my 1st BJ8 which had no resonators. The pipes ended directly under the bumper. After looking at the original drawings of the 100 I noticed that the pipes extended well beyond the bumper and, when I did the same with mine, the problem was almost gone completely. M On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 10:46 PM Richard Collins, wrote: > My wife won?t ride in mine due to exhaust backwash. > > Regards, > Richard Of Ky > BN7 440 > > > On Oct 23, 2019, at 17:50, i erbs wrote: > > ? > Tailpipe extensions that point down help some > > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 3:23 PM Stephen Hutchings > wrote: > >> After that long thread on down pipes, I have an exhaust question for you. >> I had sealed my down pipe/ manifold seams with gaskets made from Remflex >> (graphite based material) >> and it worked very well. I pressurized my system and don?t appear to have >> any leaks. >> >> My complaint is that I get exhaust blowing into the cockpit- when I?ve >> got the top down and I?m sitting in traffic- if I have the top up and the >> back window unzipped, especially with the door windows up. >> As long as I?m moving when the top?s down I?m OK, and if I have the >> cockpit all closed up it?s fine as well. >> Now I realize you?re bound to get some exhaust smell, depending on which >> way the wind is blowing, but I?m wondering if I should try to find some >> exhaust tips that point down, or maybe lengthen them a little. >> I guess we?re all used to much cleaner tail pipe emissions, but I really >> find every stoplight an ordeal?I know, Healeys aren?t made for city >> traffic, but I?m usually on my way out of town! >> >> Stephen, BJ8 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I then applied an unspecified force with my hand to the 47 pounds and no movement. My conclusion is that the mild steel flex pipe, once it takes a set, ie, Gets Rusty, does not flex. It is the weak link that will fail but it might as well be a piece of regular pipe. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nmcd10 at gmail.com Thu Oct 24 07:52:31 2019 From: nmcd10 at gmail.com (Neil McDonald) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:52:31 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga In-Reply-To: <20191024134250.839BBA0623@autox.team.net> References: <20191024134250.839BBA0623@autox.team.net> Message-ID: An exciting subject indeed! I am about to fit an unused mild steel down pipe that I have had on the shelf for maybe ten years. No sign of rust but I am away from home right now so can not test it for flex. I might zap it with WD40 before fitting - can?t hurt. The question is - when brand new do the mild steel down pipes ever show any sign of flex? Neil BN6 On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:42 PM Perry via Healeys wrote: > Listers > > As a follow up to my post on 10/18 on this exciting subject, I decided to > do an experiment with a couple downpipes I had in the parts bin. Both pipes > are new old stock and have never been on a car. One is stainless and the > other mild steel. Both have been laying on a shelf in the garage for at > least 9 years. > > The test was to measure how much deflection was noted in the flex portion > of the downpipe when the tip (where it enters the muffler) is loaded with a > weight. The upper portion of the pipe was firmly held by the bench vice. > > Should have started with something less then 10 pounds but the stainless > moved considerably under that weight. The mild steel did not budge. > > At 47 pounds I heard a creaky noise but no movement on the mild steel. I > then applied an unspecified force with my hand to the 47 pounds and no > movement. > > My conclusion is that the mild steel flex pipe, once it takes a set, ie, > Gets Rusty, does not flex. It is the weak link that will fail but it might > as well be a piece of regular pipe. > > Perry > > > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/nmcd10 at gmail.com > > -- ____________________ Neil & Pam McDonald Email: nmcd10 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com Thu Oct 24 08:09:10 2019 From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:09:10 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] More on exhaust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Makes sense to put some extensions on although I?m not as paranoid about it as my wife Regards, Richard of KY BN7 440 On Oct 24, 2019, at 07:20, Michael Salter wrote: ? I encountered the same problem with my 1st BJ8 which had no resonators. The pipes ended directly under the bumper. After looking at the original drawings of the 100 I noticed that the pipes extended well beyond the bumper and, when I did the same with mine, the problem was almost gone completely. M On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 10:46 PM Richard Collins, > wrote: My wife won?t ride in mine due to exhaust backwash. Regards, Richard Of Ky BN7 440 On Oct 23, 2019, at 17:50, i erbs > wrote: ? Tailpipe extensions that point down help some Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 3:23 PM Stephen Hutchings > wrote: After that long thread on down pipes, I have an exhaust question for you. I had sealed my down pipe/ manifold seams with gaskets made from Remflex (graphite based material) and it worked very well. I pressurized my system and don?t appear to have any leaks. My complaint is that I get exhaust blowing into the cockpit- when I?ve got the top down and I?m sitting in traffic- if I have the top up and the back window unzipped, especially with the door windows up. As long as I?m moving when the top?s down I?m OK, and if I have the cockpit all closed up it?s fine as well. Now I realize you?re bound to get some exhaust smell, depending on which way the wind is blowing, but I?m wondering if I should try to find some exhaust tips that point down, or maybe lengthen them a little. I guess we?re all used to much cleaner tail pipe emissions, but I really find every stoplight an ordeal?I know, Healeys aren?t made for city traffic, but I?m usually on my way out of town! 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Oct 24 08:27:51 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 07:27:51 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga In-Reply-To: References: <20191024134250.839BBA0623@autox.team.net> Message-ID: re: "... hen brand new do the mild steel down pipes ever show any sign of flex?" If you mean does the flexible section, well, flex?? Yes, they do; maybe an inch or two of deflection at the end. Bob On 10/24/2019 6:52 AM, Neil McDonald wrote: > An exciting subject indeed! > > I am about to fit an unused mild steel down pipe that I have had on > the shelf for maybe ten years. No sign of rust but I am away from home > right now so can not test it for flex. I might zap it with WD40 before > fitting - can?t hurt. > > The question is - when brand new do the mild steel down pipes ever > show any sign of flex? > > Neil > BN6 > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:42 PM Perry via Healeys > > wrote: > > Listers > > As a follow up to my post on 10/18 on this exciting subject, I > decided to do an experiment with a couple downpipes I had in the > parts bin. Both pipes are new old stock and have never been on a > car.? One is stainless and the other mild steel. Both have been > laying on a shelf in the garage for at least 9 years. > > The test was to measure how much deflection was noted in the flex > portion of the downpipe when the tip (where it enters the muffler) > is loaded with a weight. The upper portion of the pipe was firmly > held by the bench vice. > > Should have started with something less then 10 pounds but the > stainless moved considerably under that weight.? The mild steel > did not budge. > > At 47 pounds I heard a creaky noise but no movement on the mild > steel. I then applied an unspecified force with my hand to the 47 > pounds and no movement. > > My conclusion is that the mild steel flex pipe, once it takes a > set, ie, Gets Rusty, does not flex. It is the weak link that will > fail but it might as well be a piece of regular pipe. > > Perry > > Sent from Mail > for Windows 10 > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/nmcd10 at gmail.com > > -- > ____________________ > Neil & Pam McDonald > > Email: nmcd10 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.hutchings at rogers.com Thu Oct 24 17:08:41 2019 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 19:08:41 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] More on exhaust In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5BD590A0-67B0-4A84-AAC4-192C4B0E0E44@rogers.com> Thanks for the suggestions. I think I?ll get the pipes out a bit further, point them dow, and see what kind of a difference that makes. Stephen, BJ8 > On Oct 24, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Richard Collins wrote: > > Makes sense to put some extensions on although I?m not as paranoid about it as my wife > > Regards, > Richard of KY > BN7 440 > > >> On Oct 24, 2019, at 07:20, Michael Salter wrote: >> >> ? >> I encountered the same problem with my 1st BJ8 which had no resonators. >> The pipes ended directly under the bumper. >> After looking at the original drawings of the 100 I noticed that the pipes extended well beyond the bumper and, when I did the same with mine, the problem was almost gone completely. >> >> M >> >> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 10:46 PM Richard Collins, > wrote: >> My wife won?t ride in mine due to exhaust backwash. >> >> Regards, >> Richard Of Ky >> BN7 440 >> >> >>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 17:50, i erbs > wrote: >>> >>> ? >>> Tailpipe extensions that point down help some >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> Portland, OR >>> typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 3:23 PM Stephen Hutchings > wrote: >>> After that long thread on down pipes, I have an exhaust question for you. >>> I had sealed my down pipe/ manifold seams with gaskets made from Remflex (graphite based material) >>> and it worked very well. I pressurized my system and don?t appear to have any leaks. >>> >>> My complaint is that I get exhaust blowing into the cockpit- when I?ve got the top down and I?m sitting in traffic- if I have the top up and the back window unzipped, especially with the door windows up. >>> As long as I?m moving when the top?s down I?m OK, and if I have the cockpit all closed up it?s fine as well. >>> Now I realize you?re bound to get some exhaust smell, depending on which way the wind is blowing, but I?m wondering if I should try to find some exhaust tips that point down, or maybe lengthen them a little. >>> I guess we?re all used to much cleaner tail pipe emissions, but I really find every stoplight an ordeal?I know, Healeys aren?t made for city traffic, but I?m usually on my way out of town! >>> >>> Stephen, BJ8 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/s.hutchings at rogers.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Thu Oct 24 19:00:56 2019 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 18:00:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga In-Reply-To: References: <20191024134250.839BBA0623@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <5DB62D25B9F54042A50D7F1082BAD404@AllInOne> Since we are using science and design of experiments I would like to add to the research. Test 1 - Brand new AH Spares (Bell) SS down pipe - 1" of flex with moderate hand pressure. Test 2 - Same as above for the other down pipe. Test 3 - NOS BN1 mild steel down pipe never been installed. No rust. Minimum 20 years old - No flex solid as a rock. BTW the NOS BN1 pipe is for sale. It would be suitable for a concourse restoration. Regards, Harold _____ From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:28 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga re: "... hen brand new do the mild steel down pipes ever show any sign of flex?" If you mean does the flexible section, well, flex? Yes, they do; maybe an inch or two of deflection at the end. Bob On 10/24/2019 6:52 AM, Neil McDonald wrote: An exciting subject indeed! I am about to fit an unused mild steel down pipe that I have had on the shelf for maybe ten years. No sign of rust but I am away from home right now so can not test it for flex. I might zap it with WD40 before fitting - can't hurt. The question is - when brand new do the mild steel down pipes ever show any sign of flex? Neil BN6 On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:42 PM Perry via Healeys wrote: Listers As a follow up to my post on 10/18 on this exciting subject, I decided to do an experiment with a couple downpipes I had in the parts bin. Both pipes are new old stock and have never been on a car. One is stainless and the other mild steel. Both have been laying on a shelf in the garage for at least 9 years. The test was to measure how much deflection was noted in the flex portion of the downpipe when the tip (where it enters the muffler) is loaded with a weight. The upper portion of the pipe was firmly held by the bench vice. Should have started with something less then 10 pounds but the stainless moved considerably under that weight. The mild steel did not budge. At 47 pounds I heard a creaky noise but no movement on the mild steel. I then applied an unspecified force with my hand to the 47 pounds and no movement. My conclusion is that the mild steel flex pipe, once it takes a set, ie, Gets Rusty, does not flex. It is the weak link that will fail but it might as well be a piece of regular pipe. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/nmcd10 at gmail.com -- ____________________ Neil & Pam McDonald Email: nmcd10 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Oct 24 20:57:32 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 19:57:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga In-Reply-To: <5DB62D25B9F54042A50D7F1082BAD404@AllInOne> References: <20191024134250.839BBA0623@autox.team.net> <5DB62D25B9F54042A50D7F1082BAD404@AllInOne> Message-ID: re: "NOS BN1 mild steel down pipe never been installed. No rust. Minimum 20 years old - No flex solid as a rock." Doesn't seem right to me; there may be rust that isn't visible. I'd spray penetrant oil on it a few times and 'work' it; I'd bet it will loosen up. On 10/24/2019 6:00 PM, Harold Manifold wrote: > Since we are using science and design of experiments I would like to > add to the research. > Test 1 - Brand new AH Spares (Bell) SS down pipe - 1" of flex with > moderate hand pressure. > Test 2 - Same as above for the other down pipe. > Test 3 - NOS BN1 mild steel down pipe never been installed. No rust. > Minimum 20 years old - No flex solid as a rock. > BTW the NOS BN1 pipe is for sale. It would be suitable for a concourse > restoration. > Regards, > Harold > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of > *Bob Spidell > *Sent:* Thursday, October 24, 2019 7:28 AM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga > > re: "... hen brand new do the mild steel down pipes ever show any sign > of flex?" > > If you mean does the flexible section, well, flex?? Yes, they do; > maybe an inch or two of deflection at the end. > > Bob > > On 10/24/2019 6:52 AM, Neil McDonald wrote: >> An exciting subject indeed! >> >> I am about to fit an unused mild steel down pipe that I have had on >> the shelf for maybe ten years. No sign of rust but I am away from >> home right now so can not test it for flex. I might zap it with WD40 >> before fitting - can?t hurt. >> >> The question is - when brand new do the mild steel down pipes ever >> show any sign of flex? >> >> Neil >> BN6 >> >> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:42 PM Perry via Healeys >> > wrote: >> >> Listers >> >> As a follow up to my post on 10/18 on this exciting subject, I >> decided to do an experiment with a couple downpipes I had in the >> parts bin. Both pipes are new old stock and have never been on a >> car.? One is stainless and the other mild steel. Both have been >> laying on a shelf in the garage for at least 9 years. >> >> The test was to measure how much deflection was noted in the flex >> portion of the downpipe when the tip (where it enters the >> muffler) is loaded with a weight. The upper portion of the pipe >> was firmly held by the bench vice. >> >> Should have started with something less then 10 pounds but the >> stainless moved considerably under that weight.? The mild steel >> did not budge. >> >> At 47 pounds I heard a creaky noise but no movement on the mild >> steel. I then applied an unspecified force with my hand to the 47 >> pounds and no movement. >> >> My conclusion is that the mild steel flex pipe, once it takes a >> set, ie, Gets Rusty, does not flex. It is the weak link that will >> fail but it might as well be a piece of regular pipe. >> >> Perry >> >> Sent from Mail >> for Windows 10 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/nmcd10 at gmail.com >> >> -- >> ____________________ >> Neil & Pam McDonald >> >> Email: nmcd10 at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From austin.healey at gmail.com Fri Oct 25 06:35:49 2019 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 23:35:49 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga In-Reply-To: References: <20191024134250.839BBA0623@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <97503F40-F3BB-4DF6-902C-38C8D6A05BD1@gmail.com> I have always had extractor (header) type manifolds fitted to my Healeys since 1986. My BN1, and my BJ8 - No flex pipe - all solid pipe - just like my previous Sprites. The extractor exhaust on my Healey 3000 - which has been wrapped since 1995 - has just recently celebrated its 24th anniversary on the Black and White car. So no flex joint pipe. Mild steel - wrapped - and I'm now on my second muffler with my side exit exhaust. Ok - the first one had some repairs - but all the damage and wear was road clearance related. Ignore the flex pipe. I've never had one ever in 35 years! Ignore the doomsayers who will tell you your mild steel exhaust will burn up with exhaust wrap. It won't. Mine didn't. My extractors are still fine. And I'm on my second muffler - and my ground clearance is probably less than yours! The only enemy is ashphalt!! Best Chris www.myaustinhealey.com > On 25 Oct 2019, at 12:52 am, Neil McDonald wrote: > > An exciting subject indeed! > > I am about to fit an unused mild steel down pipe that I have had on the shelf for maybe ten years. No sign of rust but I am away from home right now so can not test it for flex. I might zap it with WD40 before fitting - can?t hurt. > > The question is - when brand new do the mild steel down pipes ever show any sign of flex? > > Neil > BN6 > >> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:42 PM Perry via Healeys wrote: >> Listers >> >> As a follow up to my post on 10/18 on this exciting subject, I decided to do an experiment with a couple downpipes I had in the parts bin. Both pipes are new old stock and have never been on a car. One is stainless and the other mild steel. Both have been laying on a shelf in the garage for at least 9 years. >> >> The test was to measure how much deflection was noted in the flex portion of the downpipe when the tip (where it enters the muffler) is loaded with a weight. The upper portion of the pipe was firmly held by the bench vice. >> >> Should have started with something less then 10 pounds but the stainless moved considerably under that weight. The mild steel did not budge. >> >> At 47 pounds I heard a creaky noise but no movement on the mild steel. I then applied an unspecified force with my hand to the 47 pounds and no movement. >> >> My conclusion is that the mild steel flex pipe, once it takes a set, ie, Gets Rusty, does not flex. It is the weak link that will fail but it might as well be a piece of regular pipe. >> >> Perry >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/nmcd10 at gmail.com >> > -- > ____________________ > Neil & Pam McDonald > > Email: nmcd10 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From austin.healey at gmail.com Fri Oct 25 06:52:32 2019 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 23:52:32 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] U.K. Listers - does anyone have a spare set of rear brake backing plates for a 3000? Message-ID: Hi Men, Does anyone based in England have a spare set of rear brake drum backing plates for a 3000? I want to have them scanned and they will be returned to you. Shipping within England from you, and back to you. at my cost. Let me know if you have a set I can borrow please. Best regards Chris Dimmock. From michael.oritt at gmail.com Fri Oct 25 07:12:14 2019 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 09:12:14 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga In-Reply-To: <97503F40-F3BB-4DF6-902C-38C8D6A05BD1@gmail.com> References: <20191024134250.839BBA0623@autox.team.net> <97503F40-F3BB-4DF6-902C-38C8D6A05BD1@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'll second that: I have DW exhaust headers with no flex pipe in the system and exhaust wrap that has been on for 23 years with no problems. Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 8:36 AM Chris Dimmock wrote: > I have always had extractor (header) type manifolds fitted to my Healeys > since 1986. > My BN1, and my BJ8 - No flex pipe - all solid pipe - just like my previous > Sprites. > The extractor exhaust on my Healey 3000 - which has been wrapped since > 1995 - has just recently celebrated its 24th anniversary on the Black and > White car. > So no flex joint pipe. Mild steel - wrapped - and I'm now on my second > muffler with my side exit exhaust. > Ok - the first one had some repairs - but all the damage and wear was road > clearance related. > Ignore the flex pipe. I've never had one ever in 35 years! > Ignore the doomsayers who will tell you your mild steel exhaust will burn > up with exhaust wrap. It won't. Mine didn't. > My extractors are still fine. And I'm on my second muffler - and my ground > clearance is probably less than yours! > The only enemy is ashphalt!! > Best > Chris > www.myaustinhealey.com > > > > On 25 Oct 2019, at 12:52 am, Neil McDonald wrote: > > An exciting subject indeed! > > I am about to fit an unused mild steel down pipe that I have had on the > shelf for maybe ten years. No sign of rust but I am away from home right > now so can not test it for flex. I might zap it with WD40 before fitting - > can?t hurt. > > The question is - when brand new do the mild steel down pipes ever show > any sign of flex? > > Neil > BN6 > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:42 PM Perry via Healeys > wrote: > >> Listers >> >> As a follow up to my post on 10/18 on this exciting subject, I decided to >> do an experiment with a couple downpipes I had in the parts bin. Both pipes >> are new old stock and have never been on a car. One is stainless and the >> other mild steel. Both have been laying on a shelf in the garage for at >> least 9 years. >> >> The test was to measure how much deflection was noted in the flex portion >> of the downpipe when the tip (where it enters the muffler) is loaded with a >> weight. The upper portion of the pipe was firmly held by the bench vice. >> >> Should have started with something less then 10 pounds but the stainless >> moved considerably under that weight. The mild steel did not budge. >> >> At 47 pounds I heard a creaky noise but no movement on the mild steel. I >> then applied an unspecified force with my hand to the 47 pounds and no >> movement. >> >> My conclusion is that the mild steel flex pipe, once it takes a set, ie, >> Gets Rusty, does not flex. It is the weak link that will fail but it might >> as well be a piece of regular pipe. >> >> Perry >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for >> Windows 10 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/nmcd10 at gmail.com >> >> -- > ____________________ > Neil & Pam McDonald > > Email: nmcd10 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeymanjim at hansencc.net Fri Oct 25 09:37:08 2019 From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 08:37:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?exhaust_downpipes?= Message-ID: <20191025153708.18355.qmail@server278.com> one of my old healeys many years ago had a straight thru downpipe. it was no problem until the motor mounts got pretty weak then the downpipe would hit the frame when accelerating. replaced motor mounts to solve problem. this problem was probably due to poor engineering of the exhaust system replacement. From banjojohn at cox.net Fri Oct 25 12:01:47 2019 From: banjojohn at cox.net (John) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 13:01:47 -0500 Subject: [Healeys] rear rake drum source? Message-ID: <91899f49-9a65-77ee-5e9d-58e42fc7882d@cox.net> Hi Listers: I am trying to find a source for some new rear brake drums for my BJ8.? My old drums seem to be out of round, as they drag in certain spots and turn free in others as I rotate them.? I ordered a new pair through a recommended reseller for M**s and when I mounted them, they also drug in a couple spots and turned free in others.? I tried running them but had a significant shake in the pedal on braking.? They were also so close to maximum inside diameter that I could not have them turned to true them up.? They were sent back. Any other recommended sources I should check to get good quality (round) drums, that also might have enough metal to them that they could be turned if need be? Thanks for any info John O'Brien '65 BJ8 (Madelyn) '61 Bugeye (Lucy) From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Oct 25 12:25:16 2019 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 20:25:16 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] rear rake drum source? In-Reply-To: <91899f49-9a65-77ee-5e9d-58e42fc7882d@cox.net> References: <91899f49-9a65-77ee-5e9d-58e42fc7882d@cox.net> Message-ID: <1290384b-3d00-4280-3c9a-698f52af5b2e@chello.nl> Check your hubs and shafts if they are true. If not you can fit as many new drums as you like but there will still be high and low spots. Kees Oudesluijs Op 25-10-2019 om 20:01 schreef John: > Hi Listers: > > I am trying to find a source for some new rear brake drums for my > BJ8.? My old drums seem to be out of round, as they drag in certain > spots and turn free in others as I rotate them.? I ordered a new pair > through a recommended reseller for M**s and when I mounted them, they > also drug in a couple spots and turned free in others.? I tried > running them but had a significant shake in the pedal on braking.? > They were also so close to maximum inside diameter that I could not > have them turned to true them up.? They were sent back. > > Any other recommended sources I should check to get good quality > (round) drums, that also might have enough metal to them that they > could be turned if need be? > > Thanks for any info > > John O'Brien > > '65 BJ8 (Madelyn) > > '61 Bugeye (Lucy) > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > From coudesluijs at chello.nl Fri Oct 25 12:26:22 2019 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 20:26:22 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] rear rake drum source? In-Reply-To: <1290384b-3d00-4280-3c9a-698f52af5b2e@chello.nl> References: <91899f49-9a65-77ee-5e9d-58e42fc7882d@cox.net> <1290384b-3d00-4280-3c9a-698f52af5b2e@chello.nl> Message-ID: Oh, and do not forget the bearings!! Kees Oudesluijs Op 25-10-2019 om 20:25 schreef Kees Oudesluijs: > Check your hubs and shafts if they are true. If not you can fit as > many new drums as you like but there will still be high and low spots. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > Op 25-10-2019 om 20:01 schreef John: >> Hi Listers: >> >> I am trying to find a source for some new rear brake drums for my >> BJ8.? My old drums seem to be out of round, as they drag in certain >> spots and turn free in others as I rotate them.? I ordered a new pair >> through a recommended reseller for M**s and when I mounted them, they >> also drug in a couple spots and turned free in others.? I tried >> running them but had a significant shake in the pedal on braking.? >> They were also so close to maximum inside diameter that I could not >> have them turned to true them up.? They were sent back. >> >> Any other recommended sources I should check to get good quality >> (round) drums, that also might have enough metal to them that they >> could be turned if need be? >> >> Thanks for any info >> >> John O'Brien >> >> '65 BJ8 (Madelyn) >> >> '61 Bugeye (Lucy) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Oct 25 15:11:16 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 08:11:16 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] rear brake drum source? Message-ID: <004501d58b78$bf052720$3d0f7560$@tpg.com.au> Hello Happens all the time, especially with the rears as the shoes don't expand equally all round. Suggest having the brake shoes machined to match the inner circumference of the drum. Also have the drums balanced dynamically. Made the world of difference with the BN3 with drums all round. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 5:02 AM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] rear rake drum source? Hi Listers: I am trying to find a source for some new rear brake drums for my BJ8. My old drums seem to be out of round, as they drag in certain spots and turn free in others as I rotate them. I ordered a new pair through a recommended reseller for M**s and when I mounted them, they also drug in a couple spots and turned free in others. I tried running them but had a significant shake in the pedal on braking. They were also so close to maximum inside diameter that I could not have them turned to true them up. They were sent back. Any other recommended sources I should check to get good quality (round) drums, that also might have enough metal to them that they could be turned if need be? Thanks for any info John O'Brien '65 BJ8 (Madelyn) '61 Bugeye (Lucy) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz Fri Oct 25 16:57:04 2019 From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 11:57:04 +1300 Subject: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga In-Reply-To: References: <20191024134250.839BBA0623@autox.team.net> <97503F40-F3BB-4DF6-902C-38C8D6A05BD1@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4E4005A108ED4511B0112DFAB03C8E2A@MarkPC> Same for me. 27 years so far on my tri-carb, and over 40 on my BN2. That said, I was told many years ago that the only reason the flex pipe section was part of the down pipes was to facilitate easy alignment and fitting of the muffler and tailpipes whilst on the assembly line. Cheers Mark Ardmore NZ _____ From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 2:12 a.m. To: Chris Dimmock Cc: Neil McDonald; Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga I'll second that: I have DW exhaust headers with no flex pipe in the system and exhaust wrap that has been on for 23 years with no problems. Best--Michael Oritt On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 8:36 AM Chris Dimmock wrote: I have always had extractor (header) type manifolds fitted to my Healeys since 1986. My BN1, and my BJ8 - No flex pipe - all solid pipe - just like my previous Sprites. The extractor exhaust on my Healey 3000 - which has been wrapped since 1995 - has just recently celebrated its 24th anniversary on the Black and White car. So no flex joint pipe. Mild steel - wrapped - and I'm now on my second muffler with my side exit exhaust. Ok - the first one had some repairs - but all the damage and wear was road clearance related. Ignore the flex pipe. I've never had one ever in 35 years! Ignore the doomsayers who will tell you your mild steel exhaust will burn up with exhaust wrap. It won't. Mine didn't. My extractors are still fine. And I'm on my second muffler - and my ground clearance is probably less than yours! The only enemy is ashphalt!! Best Chris www.myaustinhealey.com On 25 Oct 2019, at 12:52 am, Neil McDonald wrote: An exciting subject indeed! I am about to fit an unused mild steel down pipe that I have had on the shelf for maybe ten years. No sign of rust but I am away from home right now so can not test it for flex. I might zap it with WD40 before fitting - can't hurt. The question is - when brand new do the mild steel down pipes ever show any sign of flex? Neil BN6 On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:42 PM Perry via Healeys wrote: Listers As a follow up to my post on 10/18 on this exciting subject, I decided to do an experiment with a couple downpipes I had in the parts bin. Both pipes are new old stock and have never been on a car. One is stainless and the other mild steel. Both have been laying on a shelf in the garage for at least 9 years. The test was to measure how much deflection was noted in the flex portion of the downpipe when the tip (where it enters the muffler) is loaded with a weight. The upper portion of the pipe was firmly held by the bench vice. Should have started with something less then 10 pounds but the stainless moved considerably under that weight. The mild steel did not budge. At 47 pounds I heard a creaky noise but no movement on the mild steel. I then applied an unspecified force with my hand to the 47 pounds and no movement. My conclusion is that the mild steel flex pipe, once it takes a set, ie, Gets Rusty, does not flex. It is the weak link that will fail but it might as well be a piece of regular pipe. Perry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Oct 25 16:58:59 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 15:58:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey Message-ID: Who owns the car now? I bought an old car and driver mag with a review of the car. Thought they might like it. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cfrazer at uoregon.edu Fri Oct 25 17:07:10 2019 From: cfrazer at uoregon.edu (Charlie Frazer) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 16:07:10 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ira, Bob Segui. He lives in Port Angeles, WA Charlie On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:58 PM, i erbs wrote: Who owns the car now? I bought an old car and driver mag with a review of the car. Thought they might like it. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.team.net/donate.html__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!RDX26K7CBZWAfW6AyVO6ooPIBHfOwdu1Sn7Lvma_8A1ERNApuFNfO60oUD0ZviiWhA$ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!RDX26K7CBZWAfW6AyVO6ooPIBHfOwdu1Sn7Lvma_8A1ERNApuFNfO60oUD2pOH403A$ https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://autox.team.net/archive__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!RDX26K7CBZWAfW6AyVO6ooPIBHfOwdu1Sn7Lvma_8A1ERNApuFNfO60oUD3BekA_Zw$ Healeys at autox.team.net https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!RDX26K7CBZWAfW6AyVO6ooPIBHfOwdu1Sn7Lvma_8A1ERNApuFNfO60oUD2plaspsw$ Unsubscribe/Manage: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cfrazer at uoregon.edu__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!RDX26K7CBZWAfW6AyVO6ooPIBHfOwdu1Sn7Lvma_8A1ERNApuFNfO60oUD2PoaR1Tg$ From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Oct 25 17:07:54 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 16:07:54 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey In-Reply-To: <907AF8E139964DA6AE17EE04AC14280B@DavidNockHP> References: <907AF8E139964DA6AE17EE04AC14280B@DavidNockHP> Message-ID: Thanks Ill see if it's there and if they want the magazine? I slso got a copy of Auto magazine 1952 with mention of the le mans nash healey Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 4:05 PM David Nock BCS wrote: > We had the car on display at the Tahoe Meet in 213., Then after the Tahoe > meet I delivered the car to a transporter and it was sold to someone in > Europe and as far as I know it is currently in the Healey Museum. > > David Nock > British Car Specialists > 209-948-8767 > www.britishcarspecialists.com > > *From:* i erbs > *Sent:* Friday, October 25, 2019 3:58 PM > *To:* Ahealey help > *Subject:* [Healeys] Fiesta Healey > > Who owns the car now? > I bought an old car and driver mag with a review of the car. Thought they > might like it. > > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc at sbcglobal.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Oct 25 17:09:18 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 10:09:18 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006e01d58b89$3bfffbf0$b3fff3d0$@tpg.com.au> Hello It belongs to Warren Kennedy in the UK as part of his Healey collection. Have a look at http://www.classicrestorations.org.uk/ Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 9:59 AM To: Ahealey help Subject: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey Who owns the car now? I bought an old car and driver mag with a review of the car. Thought they might like it. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Oct 25 18:12:58 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 11:12:58 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008801d58b92$20894210$619bc630$@tpg.com.au> It's since been sold and it's now in the UK. I saw it there a couple of months back. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charlie Frazer Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 10:07 AM To: i erbs Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey Ira, Bob Segui. He lives in Port Angeles, WA Charlie On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:58 PM, i erbs wrote: Who owns the car now? I bought an old car and driver mag with a review of the car. Thought they might like it. 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It?s quite possible that it?s been sold and relocated, or, that we?re talking about two different cars. Charlie On Oct 25, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: It's since been sold and it's now in the UK. I saw it there a couple of months back. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charlie Frazer Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 10:07 AM To: i erbs Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey Ira, Bob Segui. He lives in Port Angeles, WA Charlie On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:58 PM, i erbs wrote: Who owns the car now? I bought an old car and driver mag with a review of the car. Thought they might like it. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.team.net/donate.html__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!R DX26K7CBZWAfW6AyVO6ooPIBHfOwdu1Sn7Lvma_8A1ERNApuFNfO60oUD0ZviiWhA$ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys__;!5W9E9Pn L_ac!RDX26K7CBZWAfW6AyVO6ooPIBHfOwdu1Sn7Lvma_8A1ERNApuFNfO60oUD2pOH403A$ https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://autox.team.net/archive__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!RDX 26K7CBZWAfW6AyVO6ooPIBHfOwdu1Sn7Lvma_8A1ERNApuFNfO60oUD3BekA_Zw$ Healeys at autox.team.net https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys__ ;!5W9E9PnL_ac!RDX26K7CBZWAfW6AyVO6ooPIBHfOwdu1Sn7Lvma_8A1ERNApuFNfO60oUD2pla spsw$ Unsubscribe/Manage: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cf razer at uoregon.edu__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!RDX26K7CBZWAfW6AyVO6ooPIBHfOwdu1Sn7Lvma_8A1 ERNApuFNfO60oUD2PoaR1Tg$ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.team.net/donate.html__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!VpMerQoe2AHvM6MrNcKf_bHL2h49MOdapW1FEsr1lFSErKH8S70dRCNca57yn-gGnA$ Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!VpMerQoe2AHvM6MrNcKf_bHL2h49MOdapW1FEsr1lFSErKH8S70dRCNca57dH_yn_w$ https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://autox.team.net/archive__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!VpMerQoe2AHvM6MrNcKf_bHL2h49MOdapW1FEsr1lFSErKH8S70dRCNca55js090hw$ Healeys at autox.team.net https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!VpMerQoe2AHvM6MrNcKf_bHL2h49MOdapW1FEsr1lFSErKH8S70dRCNca55pZ7xZHw$ Unsubscribe/Manage: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!VpMerQoe2AHvM6MrNcKf_bHL2h49MOdapW1FEsr1lFSErKH8S70dRCNca55wJfZL4Q$ -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.avast.com/antivirus__;!5W9E9PnL_ac!VpMerQoe2AHvM6MrNcKf_bHL2h49MOdapW1FEsr1lFSErKH8S70dRCNca54mj8jjxQ$ From llennep at verizon.net Fri Oct 25 18:58:26 2019 From: llennep at verizon.net (Keith Pennell) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 00:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] What is it? References: <660866768.2412111.1572051506885.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <660866768.2412111.1572051506885@mail.yahoo.com> Can you identify this part and what it is for?? May not even be Healey.? dunnoYeah I know the one of the right is a ball point pen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DSC01128.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 2287342 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DSC01129.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1987715 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Oct 25 19:16:15 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 12:16:15 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey In-Reply-To: References: <008801d58b92$20894210$619bc630$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <009501d58b9a$f80e7860$e82b6920$@tpg.com.au> Hello I saw the car on 30 July this year and attached is a photo I took of it. You can save the photo and then if you look at its properties you will see that the photo was taken on 30 July. I'm afraid it is the most soporific of any vehicle Geoff Healey was involved with. Hoo Roo Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Frazer [mailto:cfrazer at uoregon.edu] Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 11:32 AM To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey With all deference to Patrick, I saw it on the the back of a trailer in Sequim, WA in September at the NW Healey Meet. It?s quite possible that it?s been sold and relocated, or, that we?re talking about two different cars. Charlie On Oct 25, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: It's since been sold and it's now in the UK. I saw it there a couple of months back. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charlie Frazer Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 10:07 AM To: i erbs Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey Ira, Bob Segui. He lives in Port Angeles, WA Charlie On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:58 PM, i erbs wrote: Who owns the car now? I bought an old car and driver mag with a review of the car. Thought they might like it. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It was a surprise and to me a star attraction at the annual New Year's Day 'Vintage Stony' show in Stony Stratford: from a distance I recognized it as a Mark 1 Fiesta but with some strange and unfamiliar differences that needed closer inspection. At first glance it may look like an ordinary Fiesta that has been badly customized, but the information board provided the full story of this little-known final car to wear the famous Healey badge Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Charlie Frazer Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:32 PM To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey With all deference to Patrick, I saw it on the the back of a trailer in Sequim, WA in September at the NW Healey Meet. It?s quite possible that it?s been sold and relocated, or, that we?re talking about two different cars. Charlie On Oct 25, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: It's since been sold and it's now in the UK. I saw it there a couple of months back. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charlie Frazer Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 10:07 AM To: i erbs Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey Ira, Bob Segui. He lives in Port Angeles, WA Charlie On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:58 PM, i erbs wrote: Who owns the car now? I bought an old car and driver mag with a review of the car. Thought they might like it. 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URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Fri Oct 25 19:30:35 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 12:30:35 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey In-Reply-To: <201910260123.x9Q1Nrep032698@mx15.tpg.com.au> References: <008801d58b92$20894210$619bc630$@tpg.com.au> <201910260123.x9Q1Nrep032698@mx15.tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <00a601d58b9c$f8793630$e96ba290$@tpg.com.au> Hello I sent this earlier, but suspect it was too big. Here it is in lower resolution. It?s a photo of the Healey Fiesta I took on 30 July this year. Sorry to say that I find it very soporific. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn From: Perry [mailto:healeyguy at aol.com] Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 12:24 PM To: Charlie Frazer; Patrick & Caroline Quinn Cc: healeys Subject: RE: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey Pulled this info from the net that gives a little info on the car up to January 2016. Perry So what happened to the prototype and how come I saw it here in the UK near my home town? It languished at the Dearborn factory for a short time and was then sold on, passing through three enthusiast owners in the US and lately being loaned to the Healey Museum in the Netherlands. The car appears to have come to the UK in late 2014 and now resides in Bedfordshire in the hands of a die-hard Healey fan who also owns the very first Healey car; it is UK-registered as YNF 650S and fully road-legal so it is driven to events. It was a surprise and to me a star attraction at the annual New Year's Day 'Vintage Stony' show in Stony Stratford: from a distance I recognized it as a Mark 1 Fiesta but with some strange and unfamiliar differences that needed closer inspection. At first glance it may look like an ordinary Fiesta that has been badly customized, but the information board provided the full story of this little-known final car to wear the famous Healey badge Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Charlie Frazer Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 8:32 PM To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey With all deference to Patrick, I saw it on the the back of a trailer in Sequim, WA in September at the NW Healey Meet. It?s quite possible that it?s been sold and relocated, or, that we?re talking about two different cars. Charlie On Oct 25, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: It's since been sold and it's now in the UK. I saw it there a couple of months back. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charlie Frazer Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 10:07 AM To: i erbs Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey Ira, Bob Segui. He lives in Port Angeles, WA Charlie On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:58 PM, i erbs wrote: Who owns the car now? I bought an old car and driver mag with a review of the car. Thought they might like it. 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May not even be Healey. > dunno > Yeah I know the one of the right is a ball point pen. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ynotink at msn.com Fri Oct 25 20:16:55 2019 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 02:16:55 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga In-Reply-To: <20191024134301.A5957A058E@autox.team.net> References: <20191024134301.A5957A058E@autox.team.net> Message-ID: Thanks for the info Perry. So it would seem that the best setup would be a mild steel system from the muffler back for the sound and stainless downpipes for the flex. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Perry via Healeys Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 1:42 PM To: healeys Subject: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga Listers As a follow up to my post on 10/18 on this exciting subject, I decided to do an experiment with a couple downpipes I had in the parts bin. Both pipes are new old stock and have never been on a car. One is stainless and the other mild steel. Both have been laying on a shelf in the garage for at least 9 years. The test was to measure how much deflection was noted in the flex portion of the downpipe when the tip (where it enters the muffler) is loaded with a weight. The upper portion of the pipe was firmly held by the bench vice. Should have started with something less then 10 pounds but the stainless moved considerably under that weight. The mild steel did not budge. At 47 pounds I heard a creaky noise but no movement on the mild steel. I then applied an unspecified force with my hand to the 47 pounds and no movement. My conclusion is that the mild steel flex pipe, once it takes a set, ie, Gets Rusty, does not flex. It is the weak link that will fail but it might as well be a piece of regular pipe. Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Oct 25 20:41:59 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 19:41:59 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey In-Reply-To: <000001d58b99$15223c40$3f66b4c0$@com.au> References: <008801d58b92$20894210$619bc630$@tpg.com.au> <000001d58b99$15223c40$3f66b4c0$@com.au> Message-ID: Its a modified by Healey ford fiesta. The modified by Healey part makes it worth talking about :) Cheers Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 7:40 PM John Rowe wrote: > Pardon my ignorance, but what is 'the Fiesta Healey'? I've never heard of > it. A search on Google only turns up a modified Ford Fiesta which I would > assume is not worth talking about. > John Rowe > Qld Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Patrick & > Caroline Quinn > Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 10:13 AM > To: 'Charlie Frazer' > Cc: 'Ahealey help' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey > > It's since been sold and it's now in the UK. I saw it there a couple of > months back. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Oct 25 20:55:56 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 19:55:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey In-Reply-To: <000001d58b99$15223c40$3f66b4c0$@com.au> References: <008801d58b92$20894210$619bc630$@tpg.com.au> <000001d58b99$15223c40$3f66b4c0$@com.au> Message-ID: https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21902/lot/404/ Article from 2014 Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 7:40 PM John Rowe wrote: > Pardon my ignorance, but what is 'the Fiesta Healey'? I've never heard of > it. A search on Google only turns up a modified Ford Fiesta which I would > assume is not worth talking about. > John Rowe > Qld Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > Patrick & > Caroline Quinn > Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 10:13 AM > To: 'Charlie Frazer' > Cc: 'Ahealey help' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey > > It's since been sold and it's now in the UK. I saw it there a couple of > months back. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Oct 25 21:07:25 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 20:07:25 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey In-Reply-To: <00a601d58b9c$f8793630$e96ba290$@tpg.com.au> References: <008801d58b92$20894210$619bc630$@tpg.com.au> <201910260123.x9Q1Nrep032698@mx15.tpg.com.au> <00a601d58b9c$f8793630$e96ba290$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: read that as sophomoric, but soporific works too? I tweeted Mr. Kennedy to see if he is intereste din the magazine? Cheers Ira Erbs Portland,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 7:59 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > Hello > > > > I sent this earlier, but suspect it was too big. Here it is in lower > resolution. > > > > It?s a photo of the Healey Fiesta I took on 30 July this year. Sorry to > say that I find it very soporific. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > > > *From:* Perry [mailto:healeyguy at aol.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, 26 October 2019 12:24 PM > *To:* Charlie Frazer; Patrick & Caroline Quinn > *Cc:* healeys > *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey > > > > Pulled this info from the net that gives a little info on the car up to > January 2016. > > Perry > > So what happened to the prototype and how come I saw it here in the UK > near my home town? It languished at the Dearborn factory for a short time > and was then sold on, passing through three enthusiast owners in the US and > lately being loaned to the Healey Museum in the Netherlands. The car > appears to have come to the UK in late 2014 and now resides in Bedfordshire > in the hands of a die-hard Healey fan who also owns the very first Healey > car; it is UK-registered as YNF 650S and fully road-legal so it is driven > to events. It was a surprise and to me a star attraction at the annual New > Year's Day 'Vintage Stony' show in Stony Stratford: from a distance I > recognized it as a Mark 1 Fiesta but with some strange and unfamiliar > differences that needed closer inspection. At first glance it may look like > an ordinary Fiesta that has been badly customized, but the information > board provided the full story of this little-known final car to wear the > famous Healey badge > > Sent from Mail for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *Charlie Frazer > *Sent: *Friday, October 25, 2019 8:32 PM > *To: *Patrick & Caroline Quinn > *Cc: *Ahealey help > *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey > > > > With all deference to Patrick, I saw it on the the back of a trailer in > Sequim, WA in September at the NW Healey Meet. > > It?s quite possible that it?s been sold and relocated, or, that we?re > talking about two different cars. > > Charlie > > > > On Oct 25, 2019, at 5:12 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn > wrote: > > > > It's since been sold and it's now in the UK. I saw it there a couple of > > months back. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charlie > > Frazer > > Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2019 10:07 AM > > To: i erbs > > Cc: Ahealey help > > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fiesta Healey > > > > Ira, > > Bob Segui. He lives in Port Angeles, WA > > Charlie > > > > On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:58 PM, i erbs wrote: > > > > Who owns the car now? > > I bought an old car and driver mag with a review of the car. 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URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Fri Oct 25 22:52:36 2019 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 04:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye Tacometer References: <1840380420.2429979.1572065556335.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1840380420.2429979.1572065556335@mail.yahoo.com> Just posting this here because it could happen to a big Healey tach cable.??I had to break two tach cables before it dawned on me it wasn't the cable.? It is the tachometer.? The inside cable broke off right at the gear reduction drive unit.? Twice!? For some reason my Bugeye tachometer has frozen up inside where the tach cable is attached.? It's a first for me.? Just wondering if this can be fixed and while to send it to.Mike MacLeanSent from Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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John Spaur Sent from Android Mail on Yahoo From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 9:53 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Bugeye Tacometer Just posting this here because it could happen to a big Healey tach cable. I had to break two tach cables before it dawned on me it wasn't the cable. It is the tachometer. The inside cable broke off right at the gear reduction drive unit. Twice! For some reason my Bugeye tachometer has frozen up inside where the tach cable is attached. It's a first for me. Just wondering if this can be fixed and while to send it to. Mike MacLean Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bighealey3k at aim.com Sat Oct 26 08:25:32 2019 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (Larry Wendland) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 14:25:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] What is it? References: <369166015.1453180.1572099932508.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <369166015.1453180.1572099932508@mail.yahoo.com> Looks like a support bracket for a copper or brass sensor line for an oil pressure gauge or vacuum gauge. What do you think? Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: Keith Pennell via Healeys To: healeys Sent: Fri, Oct 25, 2019 11:31 pm Subject: [Healeys] What is it? Can you identify this part and what it is for?? May not even be Healey.? dunno Yeah I know the one of the right is a ball point pen. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey3k at aim.com From josef-eckert at t-online.de Sat Oct 26 08:40:09 2019 From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 16:40:09 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Healeys] What is it? In-Reply-To: <369166015.1453180.1572099932508@mail.yahoo.com> References: <369166015.1453180.1572099932508.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <369166015.1453180.1572099932508@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1572100809818.3251943.ec7bfefba63c45995316d998cf6f4472925fb54e@spica.telekom.de> Its tue support bracket of the distributer vacuum line at a Sprite engine. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter/ Germany ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Larry Wendland via Healeys Betreff: Re: [Healeys] What is it? Datum: 26.10.2019, 16:25 Uhr An: llennep at verizon.net, healeys at autox.team.net Looks like a support bracket for a copper or brass sensor line for an oil pressure gauge or vacuum gauge. What do you think? Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: Keith Pennell via Healeys > To: healeys > Sent: Fri, Oct 25, 2019 11:31 pm Subject: [Healeys] What is it? Can you identify this part and what it is for?? May not even be Healey.? dunno Yeah I know the one of the right is a ball point pen. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http: //autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey3k at aim.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http: //autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/josef-eckert at t-online.de -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bighealey3k at aim.com Sat Oct 26 08:41:15 2019 From: bighealey3k at aim.com (Larry Wendland) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 14:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] What is it? In-Reply-To: <660866768.2412111.1572051506885@mail.yahoo.com> References: <660866768.2412111.1572051506885.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <660866768.2412111.1572051506885@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1919737753.1466286.1572100875324@mail.yahoo.com> Or the support bracket for the vacuum line from the intake manifold to the distributor. Larry '67 BJ8 -----Original Message----- From: Keith Pennell via Healeys To: healeys Sent: Fri, Oct 25, 2019 11:31 pm Subject: [Healeys] What is it? Can you identify this part and what it is for?? May not even be Healey.? dunno Yeah I know the one of the right is a ball point pen. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bighealey3k at aim.com From healeyguy at aol.com Sat Oct 26 09:31:26 2019 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 11:31:26 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] What is it? In-Reply-To: <1919737753.1466286.1572100875324@mail.yahoo.com> References: <660866768.2412111.1572051506885.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <660866768.2412111.1572051506885@mail.yahoo.com> <1919737753.1466286.1572100875324@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The Sprite uses a hold down on the vacuum line connected to the right rear of the cylinder head but it is made of steel and much smaller. 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Carr) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:01:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] POR15 in frame? Message-ID: <0CC04ECE745C4163A29606393E42FDC6@HomePC> The man working on my 100 (frame & welded-on body parts all blasted & primed) is wondering if it would be a good idea to pour some POR15 into the holes in the frame and move the car around (it?s on a rotisserie) to spread the stuff around inside the frame rails. What?s the List?s opinion? Thanks, Sarah Carr BN1 in PA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Larry at patersondesign.ca Mon Oct 28 11:05:26 2019 From: Larry at patersondesign.ca (Larry Paterson) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 11:05:26 -0600 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005501d58db1$e6259c50$b270d4f0$@ca> Mike - check with Oliver Bienz from White Rock BC. (ticks at telus.net) He did my speedo. Excellent work, speedy turn around and reasonable price. Canadian dollars too. Larry Paterson AHCUSA 100M, BN7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 9:31 AM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that froze up. So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other. MoMa quoted $175. I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375! Usually I don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the determining factor. Mike MacLean Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 28 11:08:36 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 10:08:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9713f894-099a-a8c0-57ae-9878835ca7dd@comcast.net> PA Speedo likely has massive overhead costs compared to MoMa.? After all, they're in downtown Palo Alto, not far from Facebook and other tech firm HQs (unless they've moved to, oh, Manteca, but kept the name). I had a really good tire/wheel guy--'Palo Alto Wheel and Brake' IIRC, a second-generation shop--who was run out of town because PA didn't want one of those grimy, blue-collar-type businesses in their swanky neighborhood (he moved to Mountain View, but eventually went out of business).?? I'm surprised Antonio's Nut House--named, in part, for the peanut shells on the floor--has survived, but I hear dive bars are all the rage with tech bros/sisters these days (same for Fred's in MV, but I hear it's gotten less divey). Either shop will do a good job. Bob On 10/28/2019 8:30 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: > I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that > froze up.? So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each > other.? MoMa quoted $175.? I thought that quote was not bad, but I was > in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375! Usually I don't let > price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may > just be the determining factor. > Mike MacLean > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Oct 28 11:13:08 2019 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 17:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: <005501d58db1$e6259c50$b270d4f0$@ca> References: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> <005501d58db1$e6259c50$b270d4f0$@ca> Message-ID: <1710284284.3298241.1572282788880@mail.yahoo.com> Larry,???? I emailed Larry over the weekend and he promptly replied on Saturday.? He said he does not take repairs/rebuilds from the USA due to the high cost of his business insurance and restrictions.Thanks anyway.Mike M On Monday, October 28, 2019, 10:05:34 AM PDT, Larry Paterson wrote: #yiv7345353416 #yiv7345353416 -- _filtered #yiv7345353416 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv7345353416 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv7345353416 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv7345353416 #yiv7345353416 p.yiv7345353416MsoNormal, #yiv7345353416 li.yiv7345353416MsoNormal, #yiv7345353416 div.yiv7345353416MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:New;}#yiv7345353416 a:link, #yiv7345353416 span.yiv7345353416MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7345353416 a:visited, #yiv7345353416 span.yiv7345353416MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv7345353416 span.yiv7345353416EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv7345353416 .yiv7345353416MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv7345353416 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv7345353416 div.yiv7345353416WordSection1 {}#yiv7345353416 Mike -? check with Oliver Bienz from White Rock BC. ?(ticks at telus.net) He did my speedo.? Excellent work, speedy turn around and reasonable price.? Canadian dollars too. ? Larry Paterson AHCUSA 100M, BN7 ? From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 9:31 AM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration ? I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that froze up.? So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other.? MoMa quoted $175.? I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375!? Usually I don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the determining factor. Mike MacLean Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 28 11:14:44 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 10:14:44 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] POR15 in frame? In-Reply-To: <0CC04ECE745C4163A29606393E42FDC6@HomePC> References: <0CC04ECE745C4163A29606393E42FDC6@HomePC> Message-ID: Can't hurt.? I shot LPS3 into my BJ8's frame with an undercoating gun; linseed oil--often used in tubular aircraft fuselages--and other rust preventives would be fine, too. When we had our BN2/100M frame on a rotisserie, you could hear the rust flakes/powder when you rotated the rotisserie.? Not much you can do about it short of cutting the frame open (or replacing with one of the new frames). Bob On 10/28/2019 10:01 AM, S. Carr wrote: > The man working on my 100 (frame & welded-on body parts all blasted & > primed) is wondering if it would be a good idea to pour some POR15 > into the holes in the frame and move the car around (it?s on a > rotisserie) to spread the stuff around inside the frame rails.? What?s > the List?s opinion? > Thanks, > Sarah Carr BN1 in PA > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Oct 28 11:22:44 2019 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 17:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] POR15 in frame? In-Reply-To: References: <0CC04ECE745C4163A29606393E42FDC6@HomePC> Message-ID: <188521787.3314066.1572283364438@mail.yahoo.com> I used this on my BN2 frame during the bodywork phase. Eastwood Internal Frame Anti-Rust Coating, 14 oz. Spray | | | | | | | | | | | Eastwood Internal Frame Anti-Rust Coating, 14 oz. Spray Take out rust that's hiding away in the innards of your project car with this black aerosol coating for auto fra... | | | Mike MacLean On Monday, October 28, 2019, 10:15:09 AM PDT, Bob Spidell wrote: Can't hurt.? I shot LPS3 into my BJ8's frame with an undercoating gun; linseed oil--often used in tubular aircraft fuselages--and other rust preventives would be fine, too. When we had our BN2/100M frame on a rotisserie, you could hear the rust flakes/powder when you rotated the rotisserie.? Not much you can do about it short of cutting the frame open (or replacing with one of the new frames). Bob On 10/28/2019 10:01 AM, S. Carr wrote: The man working on my 100 (frame & welded-on body parts all blasted & primed) is wondering if it would be a good idea to pour some POR15 into the holes in the frame and move the car around (it?s on a rotisserie) to spread the stuff around inside the frame rails.? What?s the List?s opinion? ? Thanks, Sarah Carr BN1 in PA _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britfan1 at epix.net Mon Oct 28 12:13:47 2019 From: britfan1 at epix.net (S. Carr) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 14:13:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] POR15 in frame? In-Reply-To: <188521787.3314066.1572283364438@mail.yahoo.com> References: <0CC04ECE745C4163A29606393E42FDC6@HomePC> <188521787.3314066.1572283364438@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7961ACEC3245491C98A424AEF2D064B2@HomePC> I neglected to mention that a previous shop replaced the outriggers and outer sills. The rest of the frame seemed remarkably solid. Sarah From: Michael MacLean Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 1:22 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net ; Bob Spidell Subject: Re: [Healeys] POR15 in frame? I used this on my BN2 frame during the bodywork phase. Eastwood Internal Frame Anti-Rust Coating, 14 oz. Spray -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgcharlie at comcast.net Mon Oct 28 12:22:25 2019 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 14:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] POR15 in frame? In-Reply-To: <0CC04ECE745C4163A29606393E42FDC6@HomePC> References: <0CC04ECE745C4163A29606393E42FDC6@HomePC> Message-ID: <2095525414.248884.1572286945802@connect.xfinity.com> Sarah, Keep it all British and use Waxoyl. Although they do have it here in the USA. https://www.waxoyl-usa.com/ Charlie > On October 28, 2019 at 1:01 PM "S. Carr" wrote: > > The man working on my 100 (frame & welded-on body parts all blasted & primed) is wondering if it would be a good idea to pour some POR15 into the holes in the frame and move the car around (it?s on a rotisserie) to spread the stuff around inside the frame rails. What?s the List?s opinion? > > Thanks, > Sarah Carr BN1 in PA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/mgcharlie at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lawrence.swift at gmail.com Mon Oct 28 13:36:56 2019 From: lawrence.swift at gmail.com (Lawrence Swift) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:36:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: <1710284284.3298241.1572282788880@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> <005501d58db1$e6259c50$b270d4f0$@ca> <1710284284.3298241.1572282788880@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Check out Morris at west valley Instruments > On Oct 28, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > Larry, > I emailed Larry over the weekend and he promptly replied on Saturday. He said he does not take repairs/rebuilds from the USA due to the high cost of his business insurance and restrictions. > Thanks anyway. > Mike M > > On Monday, October 28, 2019, 10:05:34 AM PDT, Larry Paterson wrote: > > > Mike - check with Oliver Bienz from White Rock BC. (ticks at telus.net) He did my speedo. Excellent work, speedy turn around and reasonable price. Canadian dollars too. > > > > Larry Paterson AHCUSA > > 100M, BN7 > > > > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 9:31 AM > To: Healeys > Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration > > > > I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that froze up. So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other. MoMa quoted $175. I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375! Usually I don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the determining factor. > > Mike MacLean > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/lawrence.swift at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From llennep at verizon.net Mon Oct 28 14:53:59 2019 From: llennep at verizon.net (Keith Pennell) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 20:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] POR15 in frame? References: <242586182.3453070.1572296039317.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <242586182.3453070.1572296039317@mail.yahoo.com> Sarah, During the resto of my BN7 I removed the front caps of the main frame rails.? They needed to be remade.? While removed I used the hose and tank of an old sprayer to sprayer Waxoyl into the main rails.? The product was only thinned enough to make it sprayable with the set up.? Made up an extension so I could reach all the way back.? In theory it should be a good thing.? However, these cars are no longer driven daily as in their early lives so any such treatment is probably an overkill.? Still no harm in doing what you propose.Keith -----Original Message----- From: S. Carr To: Healey List Sent: Mon, Oct 28, 2019 1:02 pm Subject: [Healeys] POR15 in frame? The man working on my 100 (frame & welded-on body parts all blasted & primed) is wondering if it would be a good idea to pour some POR15 into the holes in the frame and move the car around (it?s on a rotisserie) to spread the stuff around inside the frame rails.? What?s the List?s opinion??Thanks,Sarah Carr BN1 in PA_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/llennep at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kags at shaw.ca Mon Oct 28 16:05:16 2019 From: kags at shaw.ca (Earl Kagna) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:05:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] clutch info -- Message-ID: <2AA0E73AE8CE4D38930DA65F198FB0C5@KagsLaptop> Does anyone have a listing of the clutch pressure plate spring colour codes used in our cars? Trying to identify a couple of NOS pressure plates here. Thanks in advance Earl Kagna Victoria, B.C. BJ8, BT7 tri-carb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alsemus1 at gmail.com Mon Oct 28 16:08:08 2019 From: alsemus1 at gmail.com (Albert Seminatore) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:08:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration Message-ID: Michael: Try Nisongers in New York. They aren't the cheapest but definitely not the most expensive. I had all my gauges for my Healey done by them as well as I am having the gauges on my XKE done by them. Prompt, excellent work and fair price. ................ 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The man working on my 100 (frame & welded-on body parts all blasted & primed) is wondering if it would be a good idea to pour some POR15 into the holes in the frame and move the car around (it?s on a rotisserie) to spread the stuff around inside the frame rails. What?s the List?s opinion? Thanks, Sarah Carr BN1 in PA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.fawcett at cox.net Mon Oct 28 16:34:23 2019 From: m.fawcett at cox.net (Mark Fawcett) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 15:34:23 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] POR15 in frame? In-Reply-To: <0CC04ECE745C4163A29606393E42FDC6@HomePC> References: <0CC04ECE745C4163A29606393E42FDC6@HomePC> Message-ID: I used it on my 1959 BT7 nearly 20 years ago. POR means "Paint Over Rust". It can't hurt. Mark Fawcett On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:01 AM S. Carr wrote: > The man working on my 100 (frame & welded-on body parts all blasted & > primed) is wondering if it would be a good idea to pour some POR15 into the > holes in the frame and move the car around (it?s on a rotisserie) to spread > the stuff around inside the frame rails. What?s the List?s opinion? > > Thanks, > Sarah Carr BN1 in PA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/m.fawcett at cox.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From schottc at knology.net Mon Oct 28 16:42:45 2019 From: schottc at knology.net (Charles Schott) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 18:42:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <289471087.463663.1572302565703.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net> Michael, Try West Valley Instruments in Reseda, CA 818-758-9500. They've done Jaguar and Healey gages for me and they look great. Regards, Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael MacLean" To: "Healeys" Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:30:51 AM Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that froze up. So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other. MoMa quoted $175. I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375! Usually I don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the determining factor. Mike MacLean Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc at knology.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From llennep at verizon.net Mon Oct 28 18:42:20 2019 From: llennep at verizon.net (Keith Pennell) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 00:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Car cover for sale References: <661788207.3569012.1572309740443.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <661788207.3569012.1572309740443@mail.yahoo.com> This cover is 25+ years old.? I bought it from California Car Cover and is a custom cover for Austin Healey 3000.? The fabric is cotton with a soft, flannel-like underside.? This is an indoor cover.? It has some stains and discoloration here and there and several tears in the rear as the pictures show.? I used it for many years but recently bought another.? I hate to just throw this away as it still has some life in it for someone.? Accepting highest offer over $30 including shipping from 23602Keith. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DSC01131.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 2270390 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DSC01134.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 2100304 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375! Usually I don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the determining factor. > Mike MacLean > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmari2 at verizon.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Gmari2 at verizon.net Mon Oct 28 19:08:02 2019 From: Gmari2 at verizon.net (George Marinos) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 21:08:02 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Make sure your comparing apples for apples. There are alot of variables and levels of ?restoration?. I have not done business with either of those companies, only Nisonger?s many years ago. Let us know what you decide and the end result. I have a KPH Speedometer that I am considering getting restored. George Sent from my iPad > On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > ?I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that froze up. So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other. MoMa quoted $175. I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375! Usually I don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the determining factor. > Mike MacLean > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmari2 at verizon.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 28 19:43:26 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 18:43:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: References: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Also, the restorer may ask what kind of resto you want; 'better than new' or otherwise.? Morris at West Valley--ex. of MoMa--told us when we had our BN2's tach restored that he could make it look new, but it probably wouldn't look right unless we did the other gauges as well.? We went with 'clean it up.' Bob On 10/28/2019 6:08 PM, George Marinos via Healeys wrote: > Make sure your comparing apples for apples. ?There are alot of > variables and levels of ?restoration?. ?I have not done business with > either of those companies, only Nisonger?s many years ago. ?Let us > know what you decide and the end result. ?I have a KPH Speedometer > that I am considering getting restored. > George > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Michael MacLean >> wrote: >> >> ?I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer >> that froze up.? So far only two quotes, but they are way off from >> each other.? MoMa quoted $175.? I thought that quote was not bad, but >> I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375!? Usually I >> don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this >> case it may just be the determining factor. >> Mike MacLean >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Oct 28 20:13:15 2019 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 19:13:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: <289471087.463663.1572302565703.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net> References: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> <289471087.463663.1572302565703.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net> Message-ID: Fellow Listers, If West Valley is still run by Morris Mintz ( the "Mo" in Mo-Ma) then don't go near the place! I've written warnings about this place twice before on this very list. They ruined my BN1 gauge faces, and destroyed the reset knob I restored 30 years ago, and never made good on their incompetence. You have been warned... Three times now. Curt On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 3:43 PM Charles Schott wrote: > Michael, > > Try West Valley Instruments in Reseda, CA 818-758-9500. They've done > Jaguar and Healey gages for me and they look great. > > Regards, > > Charlie > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Michael MacLean" > *To: *"Healeys" > *Sent: *Monday, October 28, 2019 10:30:51 AM > *Subject: *[Healeys] Instrument Restoration > > I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that > froze up. So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other. > MoMa quoted $175. I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock > when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375! Usually I don't let price alone > determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the > determining factor. > Mike MacLean > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/schottc at knology.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Al > > -- > Albert Seminatore > Mountain Falls, Pahrump, NV > eMail: alsemus1 at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrengineer.mike at att.net Mon Oct 28 21:49:22 2019 From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 03:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1529909214.3672906.1572320962818@mail.yahoo.com> I have decided on Foreign Speedo, Inc in San Diego.? Talked to them at length and they sounded knowledgeable and friendly.? Someone on the list has had good luck using them.? All I need is clean and lube for the most part.? Anyone have any bad experience with these guys?Mike MacLean On Monday, October 28, 2019, 7:14:35 PM PDT, Curtis Arndt wrote: I agree with Albert's recommendation on Nisongers. Curt On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 3:09 PM Albert Seminatore wrote: Michael:? Try Nisongers in New York.? They aren't the cheapest but definitely not the most expensive.? I had all my gauges for my Healey done by them as well as I am having the gauges on my XKE done by them.? Prompt, excellent work and fair price.................??? Al -- Albert Seminatore Mountain Falls, Pahrump, NV eMail:? alsemus1 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 28 21:52:56 2019 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 20:52:56 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: <1529909214.3672906.1572320962818@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1529909214.3672906.1572320962818@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Big Healey on the website home page; that's a good start! On 10/28/2019 8:49 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > I have decided on Foreign Speedo, Inc in San Diego.? Talked to them at > length and they sounded knowledgeable and friendly.? Someone on the > list has had good luck using them.? All I need is clean and lube for > the most part.? Anyone have any bad experience with these guys? > Mike MacLean > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Mon Oct 28 22:12:38 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 21:12:38 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] rear rake drum source? In-Reply-To: <91899f49-9a65-77ee-5e9d-58e42fc7882d@cox.net> References: <91899f49-9a65-77ee-5e9d-58e42fc7882d@cox.net> Message-ID: I had the new drums on my Sorite project turned at a machine shop. He said they had five high spots. Round and true now. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 11:02 AM John wrote: > Hi Listers: > > I am trying to find a source for some new rear brake drums for my BJ8. > My old drums seem to be out of round, as they drag in certain spots and > turn free in others as I rotate them. I ordered a new pair through a > recommended reseller for M**s and when I mounted them, they also drug in > a couple spots and turned free in others. I tried running them but had > a significant shake in the pedal on braking. They were also so close to > maximum inside diameter that I could not have them turned to true them > up. They were sent back. > > Any other recommended sources I should check to get good quality (round) > drums, that also might have enough metal to them that they could be > turned if need be? > > Thanks for any info > > John O'Brien > > '65 BJ8 (Madelyn) > > '61 Bugeye (Lucy) > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Mon Oct 28 22:13:22 2019 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (Bruce Steele) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 21:13:22 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: References: <1529909214.3672906.1572320962818@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <460501d58e0f$35c3dda0$a14b98e0$@roadrunner.com> I?ve used Foreign Speedo 2 or 3 times. They did good work at fair prices. Bruce Steele 1960 BN7 Brea, CA From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Spidell Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 8:53 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration Big Healey on the website home page; that's a good start! On 10/28/2019 8:49 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: I have decided on Foreign Speedo, Inc in San Diego. Talked to them at length and they sounded knowledgeable and friendly. Someone on the list has had good luck using them. All I need is clean and lube for the most part. 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Just never got around to it.Mike MacLean On Monday, October 28, 2019, 9:15:35 PM PDT, i erbs wrote: I had the new drums on my Sorite project turned at a machine shop. He said they had five high spots.? Round and true now. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 11:02 AM John wrote: Hi Listers: I am trying to find a source for some new rear brake drums for my BJ8.? My old drums seem to be out of round, as they drag in certain spots and turn free in others as I rotate them.? I ordered a new pair through a recommended reseller for M**s and when I mounted them, they also drug in a couple spots and turned free in others.? I tried running them but had a significant shake in the pedal on braking.? They were also so close to maximum inside diameter that I could not have them turned to true them up.? They were sent back. Any other recommended sources I should check to get good quality (round) drums, that also might have enough metal to them that they could be turned if need be? Thanks for any info John O'Brien '65 BJ8 (Madelyn) '61 Bugeye (Lucy) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 29 00:11:09 2019 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 23:11:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] rear rake drum source? In-Reply-To: <909586526.3695940.1572325408028@mail.yahoo.com> References: <91899f49-9a65-77ee-5e9d-58e42fc7882d@cox.net> <909586526.3695940.1572325408028@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000101d58e1f$a8e1fa50$faa5eef0$@sbcglobal.net> It is not a maximum diameter, it is a minimum thickness of the drum. I don?t know what that is for Sprite drums. Wish I could be more helpful. John Spaur From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:03 PM To: banjojohn ; i erbs Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] rear rake drum source? No one can answer what maximum diameter to cut is on Sprite drums. Had mine turned at a local foreign auto repair shop for 10 bucks a drum. Some had to be cut deep and one almost just a skim cut. Now one of my slave cylinders in the front is leaking and soaking the shoe. Car pulls hard to the left when the brakes are applied. Could be dangerous if you are not ready for it. Have all new cylinders to install that I bought from Ed back in 2005! Just never got around to it. Mike MacLean On Monday, October 28, 2019, 9:15:35 PM PDT, i erbs > wrote: I had the new drums on my Sorite project turned at a machine shop. He said they had five high spots. Round and true now. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 11:02 AM John > wrote: Hi Listers: I am trying to find a source for some new rear brake drums for my BJ8. My old drums seem to be out of round, as they drag in certain spots and turn free in others as I rotate them. I ordered a new pair through a recommended reseller for M**s and when I mounted them, they also drug in a couple spots and turned free in others. I tried running them but had a significant shake in the pedal on braking. They were also so close to maximum inside diameter that I could not have them turned to true them up. They were sent back. Any other recommended sources I should check to get good quality (round) drums, that also might have enough metal to them that they could be turned if need be? Thanks for any info John O'Brien '65 BJ8 (Madelyn) '61 Bugeye (Lucy) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 29 00:11:09 2019 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 23:11:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] rear rake drum source? In-Reply-To: <909586526.3695940.1572325408028@mail.yahoo.com> References: <91899f49-9a65-77ee-5e9d-58e42fc7882d@cox.net> <909586526.3695940.1572325408028@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000101d58e1f$a8e1fa50$faa5eef0$@sbcglobal.net> It is not a maximum diameter, it is a minimum thickness of the drum. I don?t know what that is for Sprite drums. Wish I could be more helpful. John Spaur From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:03 PM To: banjojohn ; i erbs Cc: Ahealey help Subject: Re: [Healeys] rear rake drum source? No one can answer what maximum diameter to cut is on Sprite drums. Had mine turned at a local foreign auto repair shop for 10 bucks a drum. Some had to be cut deep and one almost just a skim cut. Now one of my slave cylinders in the front is leaking and soaking the shoe. Car pulls hard to the left when the brakes are applied. Could be dangerous if you are not ready for it. Have all new cylinders to install that I bought from Ed back in 2005! Just never got around to it. Mike MacLean On Monday, October 28, 2019, 9:15:35 PM PDT, i erbs > wrote: I had the new drums on my Sorite project turned at a machine shop. He said they had five high spots. Round and true now. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 11:02 AM John > wrote: Hi Listers: I am trying to find a source for some new rear brake drums for my BJ8. My old drums seem to be out of round, as they drag in certain spots and turn free in others as I rotate them. I ordered a new pair through a recommended reseller for M**s and when I mounted them, they also drug in a couple spots and turned free in others. I tried running them but had a significant shake in the pedal on braking. They were also so close to maximum inside diameter that I could not have them turned to true them up. They were sent back. Any other recommended sources I should check to get good quality (round) drums, that also might have enough metal to them that they could be turned if need be? Thanks for any info John O'Brien '65 BJ8 (Madelyn) '61 Bugeye (Lucy) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 29 00:11:09 2019 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 23:11:09 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: <005501d58db1$e6259c50$b270d4f0$@ca> References: <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1727994725.3261998.1572276651674@mail.yahoo.com> <005501d58db1$e6259c50$b270d4f0$@ca> Message-ID: <000601d58e1f$a94ace40$fbe06ac0$@sbcglobal.net> Palo Alto Speedo has always done excellent work. It cost me $550 to restore my tack and speedo back in 2012. The also calibrated the speedo because my tire size was changed.. I had another problem with one of the gages that I thought I would have to pay to repair. They took care of it for no charge. Around the same time I had sent the tack or speedo to MoMa and they returned it with an aftermarket jewel (the red light lens). At first she stated that it was not sent or some other poor excuse. I had to send a picture to get her to send me the correct jewel. It was not an enjoyable experience. John ?62 BT7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Paterson Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 10:05 AM To: rrengineer.mike at att.net; 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration Mike - check with Oliver Bienz from White Rock BC. (ticks at telus.net ) He did my speedo. Excellent work, speedy turn around and reasonable price. Canadian dollars too. Larry Paterson AHCUSA 100M, BN7 From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 9:31 AM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that froze up. So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other. MoMa quoted $175. I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375! Usually I don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the determining factor. Mike MacLean Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From per at schoerner.se Tue Oct 29 04:10:03 2019 From: per at schoerner.se (Per Schoerner) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 11:10:03 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Instrument Restoration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <820A6880-1C59-430F-A6FB-72C0F4463F1B@schoerner.se> George Marinos, wanna swap it for an MPH one? Please send me an email . Best Regards, Per Schoerner Skickat fr?n min iPhone > 29 okt. 2019 kl. 02:40 skrev George Marinos via Healeys : > > ?Make sure your comparing apples for apples. There are alot of variables and levels of ?restoration?. I have not done business with either of those companies, only Nisonger?s many years ago. Let us know what you decide and the end result. I have a KPH Speedometer that I am considering getting restored. > George > > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Oct 28, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Michael MacLean wrote: >>> >> ?I have been getting quotes for the repair of my Bugeye tachometer that froze up. So far only two quotes, but they are way off from each other. MoMa quoted $175. I thought that quote was not bad, but I was in shock when Palo Alto Speedometer quoted $375! Usually I don't let price alone determine who I do business with, but in this case it may just be the determining factor. >> Mike MacLean >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/gmari2 at verizon.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/per at schoerner.se > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.hutchings at rogers.com Tue Oct 29 11:01:54 2019 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 13:01:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan Message-ID: I?m interested in what is the most practical way to install an electric fan. I know some people opt to keep the original fan blades as well, and switch on the electric one when it?s really needed, and others go for a complete electric replacement with a thermostat. I haven?t put an electric fan in, and I?ve got away without it so far. But I really hate getting stuck in traffic in hot weather- doesn?t happen often but it can get pretty damn hot under those circumstances, and it would be nice to have one less thing to be concerned with when travelling. The traffic around Toronto is so awful, no matter how strategic your timing is- you can still get stuck. Now that my car is put away for the winter, I?m thinking about possible future projects. Stephen, BJ8 From warthodson at aol.com Tue Oct 29 11:54:50 2019 From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 17:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1672393768.3080026.1572371690396@mail.yahoo.com> Stephen,Before adding an electric fan, here are a few things to consider:I have a 6 bladed fan that was a factory option. It has made a measurable difference on my car. Many of the usual suppliers offer it. Some of these repros. have a reputation for fatigue cracking with disastrous results. I have had mine for 8-10 years & I inspect it annually. No problem so far.Do you have an original type thermostat that has a moving sleeve to block the bypass port when the t'stat reaches the operating temp? If not, you are loosing some of the radiator's efficiency.?Do you have the original air baffles installed??Using coolant mix in the summer with 15-25% antifreeze will improve the heat transfer efficiency of your cooling system measurably when compared to a 50% or higher mix.?Some antifreeze is necessary for water pump lubrication. I drain the 50% solution into Jugs in the spring & put a 20% solution in. I save the 50% solution & reverse the process in the fall.?Have you considered having your radiator re-cored with a more efficient core? Is your electric system capable of the increased load of the electric fan? Depending upon your definition of practical, I assumed it meant easy &/or inexpensive, there are more things that can be done to improve the cooling system efficiency. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Hutchings To: Healeys Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2019 12:02 pm Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan I?m interested in what is the most practical way to install an electric fan. I know some people opt to keep the original fan blades as well, and switch on the electric one when it?s really needed, and others go for a complete electric replacement with a thermostat. I haven?t put an electric fan in, and I?ve got away without it so far. But I really hate getting stuck in traffic in hot weather- doesn?t happen often but it can get pretty damn hot under those circumstances, and it would be nice to have one less thing to be concerned with when travelling. The traffic around Toronto is so awful, no matter how strategic your timing is- you can still get stuck. Now that my car is put away for the winter, I?m thinking about possible future projects. Stephen, BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Tue Oct 29 13:28:14 2019 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 20:28:14 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Best is to remove the fixed fan and replace it with a more modern type thermo-switch controlled electric fan, after market or from some scrap car. There used to be Kenlowe but there are others in the market now e.g Aeroline, Davies Graig, several USA suppliers. Go for one with a ring around the blades or at least fitted with a decent cowl and fit it as close as safely possible to the radiator core, some are tied up to the core, others use brackets, purposely made or cobbled up. The trick is to let as little air escape and draw/push as much air through the radiator core. I prefer fitment as a puller behind the radiator but a pusher in front of the radiator should work just as well. Ca. 120W will be fine. Make sure you generator will be able to cope. The usual mid-late 60's alternator will deliver around 35A and will do fine. The size of the fan should not be to big, fan and/or cowl should fit the core and not partially cover the top or bottom tank. You can fit a T-piece with an M22 thread in the top radiator hose or you can have a boss with M22 thread soldered in the top tank of the radiator. You will also have to fit an overflow tank connected up with the overflow pipe of the radiator under the cap. The connecting hose should end up at the bottom of the overflow tank and the seal between radiator cap and radiator neck should be absolutely airtight so it can suck back the coolant that overflowed into the tank. The radiator has to be filled up to the top to avoid air in the system. There are thousands of different thermo-switches available for modern cars, most have a M22 thread. The cut in temperature should be around 95-98 degrees C or even a bit higher, depending on the type of coolant and the max. pressure you run in your cooling system, see cap. 6 or 7psi should be safe enough. Cut out temperature should be around 5-10 degrees above the opening temperature of the sleeved thermostat. E.g If you have an 82 degrees C sleeved thermostat the thermo-switch should cut out at around 88 degrees C, if you use an 86 degrees thermostat the cut out temperature should be around 92 degrees C. You can also use an adjustable thermo-switch but I am not sure if you can both regulate the cut in and cut out temperature. I have always used fixed temperature thermo-switches. Always fit a warning light that lights up when the fan is in operation and fit an override switch on the dash. 86 degrees sounds like a highish opening temperature and your gauge will read above the normal level, but the engine will run a bit more efficient and the cooling capacity will be increased because of the larger delta T. Kees Oudesluijs Op 29-10-2019 om 18:01 schreef Stephen Hutchings: > I?m interested in what is the most practical way to install an electric fan. > I know some people opt to keep the original fan blades as well, and switch on the electric one when it?s really needed, and others go for a complete electric replacement with a thermostat. > > I haven?t put an electric fan in, and I?ve got away without it so far. But I really hate getting stuck in traffic in hot weather- doesn?t happen often but it can get pretty damn hot under those circumstances, and it would be nice to have one less thing to be concerned with when travelling. > The traffic around Toronto is so awful, no matter how strategic your timing is- you can still get stuck. > > Now that my car is put away for the winter, I?m thinking about possible future projects. > > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > From austin.healey at gmail.com Tue Oct 29 19:15:44 2019 From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 12:15:44 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] rear rake drum source? In-Reply-To: <91899f49-9a65-77ee-5e9d-58e42fc7882d@cox.net> References: <91899f49-9a65-77ee-5e9d-58e42fc7882d@cox.net> Message-ID: The issue these days is most stuff made is crap. For example, a standard old healey brake drum weighs 7.1 Kgs. The "Alfin" replacement from AH Spares weighs 7 Kg!!!!!!! How do you make an aluminium brake drum that weighs almost the same as a cast iron one?? And just to add insult to injury, Denis Welch sells a drum with 5 large slots in the outside face. Sounds lighter? Nah - over 9 kg!!!! So based on my recent research, I'd be looking for good second hand drums! Best Chris > On 26 Oct 2019, at 5:01 am, John wrote: > > Hi Listers: > > I am trying to find a source for some new rear brake drums for my BJ8. My old drums seem to be out of round, as they drag in certain spots and turn free in others as I rotate them. I ordered a new pair through a recommended reseller for M**s and when I mounted them, they also drug in a couple spots and turned free in others. I tried running them but had a significant shake in the pedal on braking. They were also so close to maximum inside diameter that I could not have them turned to true them up. They were sent back. > > Any other recommended sources I should check to get good quality (round) drums, that also might have enough metal to them that they could be turned if need be? > > Thanks for any info > > John O'Brien > > '65 BJ8 (Madelyn) > > '61 Bugeye (Lucy) > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/austin.healey at gmail.com > From rfbegani at gmail.com Tue Oct 29 21:57:56 2019 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Robert Begani) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 23:57:56 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan In-Reply-To: <1672393768.3080026.1572371690396@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1672393768.3080026.1572371690396@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <02c801d58ed6$37563600$a602a200$@gmail.com> Stephen: As part of my rebuilding the engine in my BJ8, I installed a fan on the outside of the radiator with a manual switch for now. In addition, I installed the ?Shovel? a baffle on the underside of the radiator to direct air into the engine compartment rather than going down under the engine. Early driving of short distances on highways and city streets without the fan indicates that the Shovel is a great improvement for driving without overheating. I can go along at 20-30 mph in light traffic and some stopping with no overheating. However, you still need a fan to keep the engine from overheating in the hot Florida Sun. On the other hand, I did not have an overheating problem driving in the Chicago and Suburbs when we lived there for over 30 years which is about the same climate as Toronto, more or less as long as I stayed away from traffic jams in the summer months. Southern Florida is hot all the time! Next I will re-core the radiator. Bob Begani 67 BJ8 From: Healeys On Behalf Of warthodson--- via Healeys Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 1:55 PM To: s.hutchings at rogers.com; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Electric fan Stephen, Before adding an electric fan, here are a few things to consider: I have a 6 bladed fan that was a factory option. It has made a measurable difference on my car. Many of the usual suppliers offer it. Some of these repros. have a reputation for fatigue cracking with disastrous results. I have had mine for 8-10 years & I inspect it annually. No problem so far. Do you have an original type thermostat that has a moving sleeve to block the bypass port when the t'stat reaches the operating temp? If not, you are loosing some of the radiator's efficiency. Do you have the original air baffles installed? Using coolant mix in the summer with 15-25% antifreeze will improve the heat transfer efficiency of your cooling system measurably when compared to a 50% or higher mix. Some antifreeze is necessary for water pump lubrication. I drain the 50% solution into Jugs in the spring & put a 20% solution in. I save the 50% solution & reverse the process in the fall. Have you considered having your radiator re-cored with a more efficient core? Is your electric system capable of the increased load of the electric fan? Depending upon your definition of practical, I assumed it meant easy &/or inexpensive, there are more things that can be done to improve the cooling system efficiency. Gary Hodson -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Hutchings > To: Healeys > Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2019 12:02 pm Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan I?m interested in what is the most practical way to install an electric fan. I know some people opt to keep the original fan blades as well, and switch on the electric one when it?s really needed, and others go for a complete electric replacement with a thermostat. I haven?t put an electric fan in, and I?ve got away without it so far. But I really hate getting stuck in traffic in hot weather- doesn?t happen often but it can get pretty damn hot under those circumstances, and it would be nice to have one less thing to be concerned with when travelling. The traffic around Toronto is so awful, no matter how strategic your timing is- you can still get stuck. Now that my car is put away for the winter, I?m thinking about possible future projects. Stephen, BJ8 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Wed Oct 30 00:34:17 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2019 23:34:17 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan In-Reply-To: <02c801d58ed6$37563600$a602a200$@gmail.com> References: <1672393768.3080026.1572371690396@mail.yahoo.com> <02c801d58ed6$37563600$a602a200$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Bob Do you have a pattern for your air dam? Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 9:02 PM Robert Begani wrote: > Stephen: > > > > As part of my rebuilding the engine in my BJ8, I installed a fan on the > outside of the radiator with a manual switch for now. In addition, I > installed the ?Shovel? a baffle on the underside of the radiator to direct > air into the engine compartment rather than going down under the engine. > Early driving of short distances on highways and city streets without the > fan indicates that the Shovel is a great improvement for driving without > overheating. I can go along at 20-30 mph in light traffic and some > stopping with no overheating. However, you still need a fan to keep the > engine from overheating in the hot Florida Sun. > > > > On the other hand, I did not have an overheating problem driving in the > Chicago and Suburbs when we lived there for over 30 years which is about > the same climate as Toronto, more or less as long as I stayed away from > traffic jams in the summer months. Southern Florida is hot all the time! > Next I will re-core the radiator. > > > > Bob Begani > > 67 BJ8 > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *warthodson--- > via Healeys > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 29, 2019 1:55 PM > *To:* s.hutchings at rogers.com; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Electric fan > > > > Stephen, > > Before adding an electric fan, here are a few things to consider: > > I have a 6 bladed fan that was a factory option. It has made a measurable > difference on my car. Many of the usual suppliers offer it. Some of these > repros. have a reputation for fatigue cracking with disastrous results. I > have had mine for 8-10 years & I inspect it annually. No problem so far. > > Do you have an original type thermostat that has a moving sleeve to block > the bypass port when the t'stat reaches the operating temp? If not, you are > loosing some of the radiator's efficiency. > > Do you have the original air baffles installed? > > Using coolant mix in the summer with 15-25% antifreeze will improve the > heat transfer efficiency of your cooling system measurably when compared to > a 50% or higher mix. > > Some antifreeze is necessary for water pump lubrication. I drain the 50% > solution into Jugs in the spring & put a 20% solution in. I save the 50% > solution & reverse the process in the fall. > > Have you considered having your radiator re-cored with a more efficient > core? > > Is your electric system capable of the increased load of the electric fan? > > > > Depending upon your definition of practical, I assumed it meant easy &/or > inexpensive, there are more things that can be done to improve the cooling > system efficiency. > > > > Gary Hodson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Hutchings > To: Healeys > Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2019 12:02 pm > Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan > > I?m interested in what is the most practical way to install an electric > fan. > > I know some people opt to keep the original fan blades as well, and switch > on the electric one when it?s really needed, and others go for a complete > electric replacement with a thermostat. > > > > I haven?t put an electric fan in, and I?ve got away without it so far. But > I really hate getting stuck in traffic in hot weather- doesn?t happen often > but it can get pretty damn hot under those circumstances, and it would be > nice to have one less thing to be concerned with when travelling. > > The traffic around Toronto is so awful, no matter how strategic your > timing is- you can still get stuck. > > > > Now that my car is put away for the winter, I?m thinking about possible > future projects. > > > > Stephen, BJ8 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Wed Oct 30 01:45:34 2019 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 08:45:34 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan In-Reply-To: <02c801d58ed6$37563600$a602a200$@gmail.com> References: <1672393768.3080026.1572371690396@mail.yahoo.com> <02c801d58ed6$37563600$a602a200$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55eb899e-5464-2a63-f892-d634f57f6cd6@chello.nl> A spoiler/baffle/air dam only works at some speed. It will do nothing in a traffic jam and little in climbing steep slopes or in slow traffic. Fitting a core with extra rows is always a good thing, you can never have enough cooling capacity. However it increases air flow resistance so you really should fit an electric fan. Kees Oudesluijs Op 30-10-2019 om 04:57 schreef Robert Begani: > > Stephen: > > As part of my rebuilding the engine in my BJ8, I installed a fan on > the outside of the radiator with a manual switch for now.? In > addition, I installed the ?Shovel? a baffle on the underside of the > radiator to direct air into the engine compartment rather than going > down under the engine.? Early driving of short distances on highways > and city streets without the fan indicates that the Shovel is a great > improvement for driving without overheating.? I can go along at 20-30 > mph in light traffic and some stopping with no overheating.? However, > you still need a fan to keep the engine from overheating in the hot > Florida Sun. > > On the other hand, I did not have an overheating problem driving in > the Chicago and Suburbs when we lived there for over 30 years which is > about the same climate as Toronto, more or less as long as I stayed > away from traffic jams in the summer months. Southern Florida is hot > all the time!? Next I will re-core the radiator. > > Bob Begani > > 67 BJ8 > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of > *warthodson--- via Healeys > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 29, 2019 1:55 PM > *To:* s.hutchings at rogers.com; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Electric fan > > Stephen, > > Before adding an electric fan, here are a few things to consider: > > I have a 6 bladed fan that was a factory option. It has made a > measurable difference on my car. Many of the usual suppliers offer it. > Some of these repros. have a reputation for fatigue cracking with > disastrous results. I have had mine for 8-10 years & I inspect it > annually. No problem so far. > > Do you have an original type thermostat that has a moving sleeve to > block the bypass port when the t'stat reaches the operating temp? If > not, you are loosing some of the radiator's efficiency. > > Do you have the original air baffles installed? > > Using coolant mix in the summer with 15-25% antifreeze will improve > the heat transfer efficiency of your cooling system measurably when > compared to a 50% or higher mix. > > Some antifreeze is necessary for water pump lubrication. I drain the > 50% solution into Jugs in the spring & put a 20% solution in. I save > the 50% solution & reverse the process in the fall. > > Have you considered having your radiator re-cored with a more > efficient core? > > Is your electric system capable of the increased load of the electric fan? > > Depending upon your definition of practical, I assumed it meant easy > &/or inexpensive, there are more things that can be done to improve > the cooling system efficiency. > > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Hutchings > > To: Healeys > > Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2019 12:02 pm > Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan > > I?m interested in what is the most practical way to install an > electric fan. > > I know some people opt to keep the original fan blades as well, and > switch on the electric one when it?s really needed, and others go for > a complete electric replacement with a thermostat. > > I haven?t put an electric fan in, and I?ve got away without it so far. > But I really hate getting stuck in traffic in hot weather- doesn?t > happen often but it can get pretty damn hot under those circumstances, > and it would be nice to have one less thing to be concerned with when > travelling. > > The traffic around Toronto is so awful, no matter how strategic your > timing is- you can still get stuck. > > Now that my car is put away for the winter, I?m thinking about > possible future projects. > > Stephen, BJ8 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.hutchings at rogers.com Wed Oct 30 08:17:53 2019 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 10:17:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan In-Reply-To: <02c801d58ed6$37563600$a602a200$@gmail.com> References: <1672393768.3080026.1572371690396@mail.yahoo.com> <02c801d58ed6$37563600$a602a200$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, thanks to everyone who replied- I have plenty of info to chew over. If I could stay away from traffic jams in the summer months I wouldn?t be thinking about any changes?but, no matter how careful I am, it?s inevitable. The traffic volume is such that just the slightest disruption will cause a backup?even in the off peak hours. Thanks again, Stephen, BJ8 > On Oct 29, 2019, at 11:57 PM, Robert Begani wrote: > > Stephen: > > As part of my rebuilding the engine in my BJ8, I installed a fan on the outside of the radiator with a manual switch for now. In addition, I installed the ?Shovel? a baffle on the underside of the radiator to direct air into the engine compartment rather than going down under the engine. Early driving of short distances on highways and city streets without the fan indicates that the Shovel is a great improvement for driving without overheating. I can go along at 20-30 mph in light traffic and some stopping with no overheating. However, you still need a fan to keep the engine from overheating in the hot Florida Sun. > > On the other hand, I did not have an overheating problem driving in the Chicago and Suburbs when we lived there for over 30 years which is about the same climate as Toronto, more or less as long as I stayed away from traffic jams in the summer months. Southern Florida is hot all the time! Next I will re-core the radiator. > > Bob Begani > 67 BJ8 > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of warthodson--- via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 1:55 PM > To: s.hutchings at rogers.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Electric fan > > Stephen, > Before adding an electric fan, here are a few things to consider: > I have a 6 bladed fan that was a factory option. It has made a measurable difference on my car. Many of the usual suppliers offer it. Some of these repros. have a reputation for fatigue cracking with disastrous results. I have had mine for 8-10 years & I inspect it annually. No problem so far. > Do you have an original type thermostat that has a moving sleeve to block the bypass port when the t'stat reaches the operating temp? If not, you are loosing some of the radiator's efficiency. > Do you have the original air baffles installed? > Using coolant mix in the summer with 15-25% antifreeze will improve the heat transfer efficiency of your cooling system measurably when compared to a 50% or higher mix. > Some antifreeze is necessary for water pump lubrication. I drain the 50% solution into Jugs in the spring & put a 20% solution in. I save the 50% solution & reverse the process in the fall. > Have you considered having your radiator re-cored with a more efficient core? > Is your electric system capable of the increased load of the electric fan? > > Depending upon your definition of practical, I assumed it meant easy &/or inexpensive, there are more things that can be done to improve the cooling system efficiency. > > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Hutchings > > To: Healeys > > Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2019 12:02 pm > Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan > > I?m interested in what is the most practical way to install an electric fan. > I know some people opt to keep the original fan blades as well, and switch on the electric one when it?s really needed, and others go for a complete electric replacement with a thermostat. > > I haven?t put an electric fan in, and I?ve got away without it so far. But I really hate getting stuck in traffic in hot weather- doesn?t happen often but it can get pretty damn hot under those circumstances, and it would be nice to have one less thing to be concerned with when travelling. > The traffic around Toronto is so awful, no matter how strategic your timing is- you can still get stuck. > > Now that my car is put away for the winter, I?m thinking about possible future projects. > > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys? http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.hutchings at rogers.com Wed Oct 30 08:17:53 2019 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 10:17:53 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan In-Reply-To: <02c801d58ed6$37563600$a602a200$@gmail.com> References: <1672393768.3080026.1572371690396@mail.yahoo.com> <02c801d58ed6$37563600$a602a200$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, thanks to everyone who replied- I have plenty of info to chew over. If I could stay away from traffic jams in the summer months I wouldn?t be thinking about any changes?but, no matter how careful I am, it?s inevitable. The traffic volume is such that just the slightest disruption will cause a backup?even in the off peak hours. Thanks again, Stephen, BJ8 > On Oct 29, 2019, at 11:57 PM, Robert Begani wrote: > > Stephen: > > As part of my rebuilding the engine in my BJ8, I installed a fan on the outside of the radiator with a manual switch for now. In addition, I installed the ?Shovel? a baffle on the underside of the radiator to direct air into the engine compartment rather than going down under the engine. Early driving of short distances on highways and city streets without the fan indicates that the Shovel is a great improvement for driving without overheating. I can go along at 20-30 mph in light traffic and some stopping with no overheating. However, you still need a fan to keep the engine from overheating in the hot Florida Sun. > > On the other hand, I did not have an overheating problem driving in the Chicago and Suburbs when we lived there for over 30 years which is about the same climate as Toronto, more or less as long as I stayed away from traffic jams in the summer months. Southern Florida is hot all the time! Next I will re-core the radiator. > > Bob Begani > 67 BJ8 > > From: Healeys On Behalf Of warthodson--- via Healeys > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 1:55 PM > To: s.hutchings at rogers.com; healeys at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Electric fan > > Stephen, > Before adding an electric fan, here are a few things to consider: > I have a 6 bladed fan that was a factory option. It has made a measurable difference on my car. Many of the usual suppliers offer it. Some of these repros. have a reputation for fatigue cracking with disastrous results. I have had mine for 8-10 years & I inspect it annually. No problem so far. > Do you have an original type thermostat that has a moving sleeve to block the bypass port when the t'stat reaches the operating temp? If not, you are loosing some of the radiator's efficiency. > Do you have the original air baffles installed? > Using coolant mix in the summer with 15-25% antifreeze will improve the heat transfer efficiency of your cooling system measurably when compared to a 50% or higher mix. > Some antifreeze is necessary for water pump lubrication. I drain the 50% solution into Jugs in the spring & put a 20% solution in. I save the 50% solution & reverse the process in the fall. > Have you considered having your radiator re-cored with a more efficient core? > Is your electric system capable of the increased load of the electric fan? > > Depending upon your definition of practical, I assumed it meant easy &/or inexpensive, there are more things that can be done to improve the cooling system efficiency. > > Gary Hodson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Hutchings > > To: Healeys > > Sent: Tue, Oct 29, 2019 12:02 pm > Subject: [Healeys] Electric fan > > I?m interested in what is the most practical way to install an electric fan. > I know some people opt to keep the original fan blades as well, and switch on the electric one when it?s really needed, and others go for a complete electric replacement with a thermostat. > > I haven?t put an electric fan in, and I?ve got away without it so far. But I really hate getting stuck in traffic in hot weather- doesn?t happen often but it can get pretty damn hot under those circumstances, and it would be nice to have one less thing to be concerned with when travelling. > The traffic around Toronto is so awful, no matter how strategic your timing is- you can still get stuck. > > Now that my car is put away for the winter, I?m thinking about possible future projects. > > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys? http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/warthodson at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Wed Oct 30 10:04:32 2019 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Bob Begani) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 12:04:32 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel Message-ID: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someone on the list which I no longer have -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0410.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 534555 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- Trim shovel to fit in the framing -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0414.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 414170 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- This is the way it should fit with the flange pointing down however I cut the Valve hole wrong and had to flip flop it. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Looks good and really funnels air into the engine compartment so you do not overheat down to 30-40 mph Bob Begani Sent from my iPhone From rfbegani at gmail.com Wed Oct 30 10:21:33 2019 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Robert Begani) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 12:21:33 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel In-Reply-To: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> References: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <035001d58f3e$19216160$4b642420$@gmail.com> The pictures did not have my comments attached, !. Trim the shovel to fit the frame. 2. Shows the way the it should fit to the frame with the flange pointing down. However, I cut the valve hole wrong and had to flip flop it. 3. Note the lip should be pointing down so you can install the mounting screws to the frame from underneath and remember to get the hole for the radiator drain valve large enough to install it. 4. Painted the same color as the car. Looks good and really funnels the air into the engine compartment so you do not over heat down to 30-40 mph. 5. Should have been a factory install. I recommend the Shovel baffle for all Healey cars. There never is too much cooling air flowing through the engine compartment. When I was test driving my Healey after the rebuild without the tunnel, I could feel the air flowing through the engine compartment like a tornado. Bob Begani -----Original Message----- From: Bob Begani Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:05 PM To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; Bob Begani ; Healey Email list Subject: Radiator shovel Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someone on the list which I no longer have From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed Oct 30 14:54:02 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 07:54:02 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel In-Reply-To: <035001d58f3e$19216160$4b642420$@gmail.com> References: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> <035001d58f3e$19216160$4b642420$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <009201d58f64$2a706c10$7f514430$@tpg.com.au> Hello Such a fitting was standard to the four-cylinder cars including a vertical piece directly behind the centre of the grille. During the late 1980s I made up a similar fitting to the BN3 which made a big difference. The Healey Duncan has a similar fitting for channelling the air upwards and through the radiator. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 3:22 AM To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; 'Healey Email list' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel The pictures did not have my comments attached, !. Trim the shovel to fit the frame. 2. Shows the way the it should fit to the frame with the flange pointing down. However, I cut the valve hole wrong and had to flip flop it. 3. Note the lip should be pointing down so you can install the mounting screws to the frame from underneath and remember to get the hole for the radiator drain valve large enough to install it. 4. Painted the same color as the car. Looks good and really funnels the air into the engine compartment so you do not over heat down to 30-40 mph. 5. Should have been a factory install. I recommend the Shovel baffle for all Healey cars. There never is too much cooling air flowing through the engine compartment. When I was test driving my Healey after the rebuild without the tunnel, I could feel the air flowing through the engine compartment like a tornado. Bob Begani -----Original Message----- From: Bob Begani Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:05 PM To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; Bob Begani ; Healey Email list Subject: Radiator shovel Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someone on the list which I no longer have _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Wed Oct 30 16:50:01 2019 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 22:50:01 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel In-Reply-To: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> References: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001201d58f74$5e294940$1a7bdbc0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Here's what I filed away. All cobbled together but may help. Glad that we don't really have these cooling issues here. Touch wood!! Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Begani Sent: 30 October 2019 16:05 To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; Bob Begani ; Healey Email list Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someone on the list which I no longer have -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Air Ram.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 2305752 bytes Desc: not available URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Wed Oct 30 16:51:38 2019 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 18:51:38 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel In-Reply-To: <009201d58f64$2a706c10$7f514430$@tpg.com.au> References: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> <035001d58f3e$19216160$4b642420$@gmail.com> <009201d58f64$2a706c10$7f514430$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Patrick I have never seen anything re a "shovel" either standard or optional to 100's Can you expand on this? i was always of the impression that the purpose of the vertical divider was esthetic to prevent one's seeing through the opposite wheel opening when a car was viewed from the side. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 4:54 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: > Hello > > Such a fitting was standard to the four-cylinder cars including a vertical > piece directly behind the centre of the grille. > > During the late 1980s I made up a similar fitting to the BN3 which made a > big difference. The Healey Duncan has a similar fitting for channelling the > air upwards and through the radiator. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Blue Mountains, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert > Begani > Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 3:22 AM > To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; 'Healey Email list' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel > > The pictures did not have my comments attached, > > !. Trim the shovel to fit the frame. > 2. Shows the way the it should fit to the frame with the flange pointing > down. However, I cut the valve hole wrong and had to flip flop it. > 3. Note the lip should be pointing down so you can install the mounting > screws to the frame from underneath and remember to get the hole for the > radiator drain valve large enough to install it. > 4. Painted the same color as the car. Looks good and really funnels the > air > into the engine compartment so you do not over heat down to 30-40 mph. > 5. Should have been a factory install. I recommend the Shovel baffle for > all Healey cars. There never is too much cooling air flowing through the > engine compartment. When I was test driving my Healey after the rebuild > without the tunnel, I could feel the air flowing through the engine > compartment like a tornado. > > Bob Begani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Begani > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:05 PM > To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; Bob Begani ; Healey Email > list > > Subject: Radiator shovel > > Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someone > on the list which I no longer have > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/p_cquinn at tpg.com.au > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed Oct 30 17:11:08 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:11:08 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel In-Reply-To: References: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> <035001d58f3e$19216160$4b642420$@gmail.com> <009201d58f64$2a706c10$7f514430$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <00b301d58f77$51a0f1c0$f4e2d540$@tpg.com.au> Hello Michael In all the four-cylinder production cars there is a single horizontal and a single vertical metal piece that serves the main purpose of ensuring that the air that comes in through the grille goes through the radiator. That the vertical piece also prevents being able to see from one wheel opening to the other is purely secondary. Have a look at this page from the AH Spares website and it?s numbers 68 and 69 on the right hand side. https://www.ahspares.co.uk/big-healey/inner-body-panels-ibp101-to-ibp286a/ There is no such similar horizontal fitting on the production six-cylinder cars so that a lot of the air that comes through the grille escapes below the radiator and serves no worthwhile purpose. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 9:52 AM To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Cc: Robert Begani; Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel Patrick I have never seen anything re a "shovel" either standard or optional to 100's Can you expand on this? i was always of the impression that the purpose of the vertical divider was esthetic to prevent one's seeing through the opposite wheel opening when a car was viewed from the side. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 4:54 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: Hello Such a fitting was standard to the four-cylinder cars including a vertical piece directly behind the centre of the grille. During the late 1980s I made up a similar fitting to the BN3 which made a big difference. The Healey Duncan has a similar fitting for channelling the air upwards and through the radiator. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 3:22 AM To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; 'Healey Email list' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel The pictures did not have my comments attached, !. Trim the shovel to fit the frame. 2. Shows the way the it should fit to the frame with the flange pointing down. However, I cut the valve hole wrong and had to flip flop it. 3. Note the lip should be pointing down so you can install the mounting screws to the frame from underneath and remember to get the hole for the radiator drain valve large enough to install it. 4. Painted the same color as the car. Looks good and really funnels the air into the engine compartment so you do not over heat down to 30-40 mph. 5. Should have been a factory install. I recommend the Shovel baffle for all Healey cars. There never is too much cooling air flowing through the engine compartment. When I was test driving my Healey after the rebuild without the tunnel, I could feel the air flowing through the engine compartment like a tornado. Bob Begani -----Original Message----- From: Bob Begani Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:05 PM To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; Bob Begani ; Healey Email list Subject: Radiator shovel Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someone on the list which I no longer have -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sentenac.rw at gmail.com Wed Oct 30 17:37:57 2019 From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com (sentenac.rw at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:37:57 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel In-Reply-To: <00b301d58f77$51a0f1c0$f4e2d540$@tpg.com.au> References: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> <035001d58f3e$19216160$4b642420$@gmail.com> <009201d58f64$2a706c10$7f514430$@tpg.com.au> <00b301d58f77$51a0f1c0$f4e2d540$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: <4h7kretp2dh4beo9on2loqhmj7naoombmt@4ax.com> Just a minor addition: Early BN1s did not have the vertical divider. #724 has no vertical divider and no holes in the horizontal part where such a divider could be mounted. The horizontal piece is made of aluminum and is stamped with '724' like the bonnet. -Roland On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:11:08 +1100, you wrote: >Hello Michael > > > >In all the four-cylinder production cars there is a single horizontal and a single vertical metal piece that serves the main purpose of ensuring that the air that comes in through the grille goes through the radiator. > > > >That the vertical piece also prevents being able to see from one wheel opening to the other is purely secondary. > > > >Have a look at this page from the AH Spares website and it?s numbers 68 and 69 on the right hand side. > > > >https://www.ahspares.co.uk/big-healey/inner-body-panels-ibp101-to-ibp286a/ > > > >There is no such similar horizontal fitting on the production six-cylinder cars so that a lot of the air that comes through the grille escapes below the radiator and serves no worthwhile purpose. > > > >Hoo Roo > > > >Patrick Quinn > >Blue Mountains, Australia > > > >From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com] >Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 9:52 AM >To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn >Cc: Robert Begani; Austin Healey >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel > > > >Patrick > > > >I have never seen anything re a "shovel" either standard or optional to 100's > >Can you expand on this? > > > >i was always of the impression that the purpose of the vertical divider was esthetic to prevent one's seeing through the opposite wheel opening when a car was viewed from the side. > > > >Best--Michael Oritt > > > >On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 4:54 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: > >Hello > >Such a fitting was standard to the four-cylinder cars including a vertical >piece directly behind the centre of the grille. > >During the late 1980s I made up a similar fitting to the BN3 which made a >big difference. The Healey Duncan has a similar fitting for channelling the >air upwards and through the radiator. > >Hoo Roo > >Patrick Quinn >Blue Mountains, Australia > >-----Original Message----- >From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert >Begani >Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 3:22 AM >To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; 'Healey Email list' >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel > >The pictures did not have my comments attached, > >!. Trim the shovel to fit the frame. >2. Shows the way the it should fit to the frame with the flange pointing >down. However, I cut the valve hole wrong and had to flip flop it. >3. Note the lip should be pointing down so you can install the mounting >screws to the frame from underneath and remember to get the hole for the >radiator drain valve large enough to install it. >4. Painted the same color as the car. Looks good and really funnels the air >into the engine compartment so you do not over heat down to 30-40 mph. >5. Should have been a factory install. I recommend the Shovel baffle for >all Healey cars. There never is too much cooling air flowing through the >engine compartment. When I was test driving my Healey after the rebuild >without the tunnel, I could feel the air flowing through the engine >compartment like a tornado. > >Bob Begani > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bob Begani >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:05 PM >To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; Bob Begani ; Healey Email list > >Subject: Radiator shovel > >Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someone >on the list which I no longer have From michael.oritt at gmail.com Wed Oct 30 17:39:44 2019 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 19:39:44 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel In-Reply-To: <00b301d58f77$51a0f1c0$f4e2d540$@tpg.com.au> References: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> <035001d58f3e$19216160$4b642420$@gmail.com> <009201d58f64$2a706c10$7f514430$@tpg.com.au> <00b301d58f77$51a0f1c0$f4e2d540$@tpg.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Patrick-- I now understand and I believe these pieces correspond to the two-pieces that make up part #70 in the Moss catalogue, correct? https://mossmotors.com/austin-healey-100-100-6-3000/body-panels-structure/inner-body-panels-bn1-bn2 I removed the vertical divider on my 100 in order to mount a pusher fan to the cross-members, and though you may be correct that esthetics played no part in the inclusion of the piece its absence does make things look a bit cheesy when viewed from the side. Best--Michael O On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:11 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn < p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > Hello Michael > > > > In all the four-cylinder production cars there is a single horizontal and > a single vertical metal piece that serves the main purpose of ensuring that > the air that comes in through the grille goes through the radiator. > > > > That the vertical piece also prevents being able to see from one wheel > opening to the other is purely secondary. > > > > Have a look at this page from the AH Spares website and it?s numbers 68 > and 69 on the right hand side. > > > > https://www.ahspares.co.uk/big-healey/inner-body-panels-ibp101-to-ibp286a/ > > > > There is no such similar horizontal fitting on the production six-cylinder > cars so that a lot of the air that comes through the grille escapes below > the radiator and serves no worthwhile purpose. > > > > Hoo Roo > > > > Patrick Quinn > > Blue Mountains, Australia > > > > *From:* Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, 31 October 2019 9:52 AM > *To:* Patrick & Caroline Quinn > *Cc:* Robert Begani; Austin Healey > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel > > > > Patrick > > > > I have never seen anything re a "shovel" either standard or optional to > 100's > > Can you expand on this? > > > > i was always of the impression that the purpose of the vertical divider > was esthetic to prevent one's seeing through the opposite wheel opening > when a car was viewed from the side. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 4:54 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn < > p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote: > > Hello > > Such a fitting was standard to the four-cylinder cars including a vertical > piece directly behind the centre of the grille. > > During the late 1980s I made up a similar fitting to the BN3 which made a > big difference. The Healey Duncan has a similar fitting for channelling the > air upwards and through the radiator. > > Hoo Roo > > Patrick Quinn > Blue Mountains, Australia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert > Begani > Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 3:22 AM > To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; 'Healey Email list' > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel > > The pictures did not have my comments attached, > > !. Trim the shovel to fit the frame. > 2. Shows the way the it should fit to the frame with the flange pointing > down. However, I cut the valve hole wrong and had to flip flop it. > 3. Note the lip should be pointing down so you can install the mounting > screws to the frame from underneath and remember to get the hole for the > radiator drain valve large enough to install it. > 4. Painted the same color as the car. Looks good and really funnels the > air > into the engine compartment so you do not over heat down to 30-40 mph. > 5. Should have been a factory install. I recommend the Shovel baffle for > all Healey cars. There never is too much cooling air flowing through the > engine compartment. When I was test driving my Healey after the rebuild > without the tunnel, I could feel the air flowing through the engine > compartment like a tornado. > > Bob Begani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Begani > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:05 PM > To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; Bob Begani ; Healey Email > list > > Subject: Radiator shovel > > Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someone > on the list which I no longer have > > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > > <#m_-3225602779262858542_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au Wed Oct 30 17:49:44 2019 From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:49:44 +1100 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel In-Reply-To: <4h7kretp2dh4beo9on2loqhmj7naoombmt@4ax.com> References: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> <035001d58f3e$19216160$4b642420$@gmail.com> <009201d58f64$2a706c10$7f514430$@tpg.com.au> <00b301d58f77$51a0f1c0$f4e2d540$@tpg.com.au> <4h7kretp2dh4beo9on2loqhmj7naoombmt@4ax.com> Message-ID: <00da01d58f7c$b5905770$20b10650$@tpg.com.au> That's interesting! Wonder if the pre-production cars had anything? The BN3 certainly didn't when it I bought it in 1974, but there is a lot less room between its radiator and the grille. Thanks Patrick Quinn -----Original Message----- From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com [mailto:sentenac.rw at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:38 AM To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Cc: 'Michael Oritt'; 'Austin Healey' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel Just a minor addition: Early BN1s did not have the vertical divider. #724 has no vertical divider and no holes in the horizontal part where such a divider could be mounted. The horizontal piece is made of aluminum and is stamped with '724' like the bonnet. -Roland On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:11:08 +1100, you wrote: >Hello Michael > > > >In all the four-cylinder production cars there is a single horizontal and a single vertical metal piece that serves the main purpose of ensuring that the air that comes in through the grille goes through the radiator. > > > >That the vertical piece also prevents being able to see from one wheel opening to the other is purely secondary. > > > >Have a look at this page from the AH Spares website and it's numbers 68 and 69 on the right hand side. > > > >https://www.ahspares.co.uk/big-healey/inner-body-panels-ibp101-to-ibp286a/ > > > >There is no such similar horizontal fitting on the production six-cylinder cars so that a lot of the air that comes through the grille escapes below the radiator and serves no worthwhile purpose. > > > >Hoo Roo > > > >Patrick Quinn > >Blue Mountains, Australia > > > >From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com] >Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 9:52 AM >To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn >Cc: Robert Begani; Austin Healey >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel > > > >Patrick > > > >I have never seen anything re a "shovel" either standard or optional to 100's > >Can you expand on this? > > > >i was always of the impression that the purpose of the vertical divider was esthetic to prevent one's seeing through the opposite wheel opening when a car was viewed from the side. > > > >Best--Michael Oritt > > > >On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 4:54 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: > >Hello > >Such a fitting was standard to the four-cylinder cars including a vertical >piece directly behind the centre of the grille. > >During the late 1980s I made up a similar fitting to the BN3 which made a >big difference. The Healey Duncan has a similar fitting for channelling the >air upwards and through the radiator. > >Hoo Roo > >Patrick Quinn >Blue Mountains, Australia > >-----Original Message----- >From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert >Begani >Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 3:22 AM >To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; 'Healey Email list' >Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel > >The pictures did not have my comments attached, > >!. Trim the shovel to fit the frame. >2. Shows the way the it should fit to the frame with the flange pointing >down. However, I cut the valve hole wrong and had to flip flop it. >3. Note the lip should be pointing down so you can install the mounting >screws to the frame from underneath and remember to get the hole for the >radiator drain valve large enough to install it. >4. Painted the same color as the car. Looks good and really funnels the air >into the engine compartment so you do not over heat down to 30-40 mph. >5. Should have been a factory install. I recommend the Shovel baffle for >all Healey cars. There never is too much cooling air flowing through the >engine compartment. When I was test driving my Healey after the rebuild >without the tunnel, I could feel the air flowing through the engine >compartment like a tornado. > >Bob Begani > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bob Begani >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:05 PM >To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; Bob Begani ; Healey Email list > >Subject: Radiator shovel > >Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someone >on the list which I no longer have -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From healeyguy at aol.com Wed Oct 30 20:10:43 2019 From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 22:10:43 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel In-Reply-To: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> References: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Regarding this subject the term ?shovel? is generally used to describe a ?coal shovel? shaped scoop to intercept the air stream forcing air into something. The two pieces on a 100, especially the flat bottom panel, are there to direct air coming through the grille to the radiator core and minimize the air from redirecting under the radiator/chassis. The later cars use the two side splash panels that attempts to control the air flow to the radiator with out the lower flat panel used on the 100. The shovel scoop as shown in Simons photo actually scoops the air from beneath the front of the car and forces it up towards the rad core. At speed this would potentially increase the air flow through the core. Sounds good but in most cases the air flow and the cooling ability of the stock setup on our cars is adequate at speed. This once again gets back to the fact that most of our cooling problems are while idling when the stock fans produce very little cubic feet of air flow. Increase the stock fans to 2000 RPM and the fan is now producing more CFM than most of the smaller (12 Inch diameter or so) electric fans on the market. I ran the numbers a year or two ago and do not remember the exact numbers as that sheet of paper has been lost in my sea of Healey info. I may have posted that info to the list back then but that source also did not produce any results. Hope everyone is having a fun day?.we are about to get, in the next few days, the first dusting of snow for the season. That is if you trust the weather folks. Perry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From airtightproductions at icloud.com Wed Oct 30 21:20:25 2019 From: airtightproductions at icloud.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 03:20:25 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel Message-ID: <587daf03-c3bc-49a9-8213-fd637b73e626@me.com> Patrick, ???Mine also did not have the vertical divider. It was #598 and all stock. I'll look through some old photos and see if I can find some when I had the grill out of the car. Steven Kingsbury On October 30, 2019 at 4:50 PM, "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" wrote: That's interesting! Wonder if the pre-production cars had anything? The BN3 certainly didn't when it I bought it in 1974, but there is a lot less room between its radiator and the grille. Thanks Patrick Quinn -----Original Message----- From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com [mailto:sentenac.rw at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:38 AM To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Cc: 'Michael Oritt'; 'Austin Healey' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel Just a minor addition: Early BN1s did not have the vertical divider. #724 has no vertical divider and no holes in the horizontal part where such a divider could be mounted. The horizontal piece is made of aluminum and is stamped with '724' like the bonnet. -Roland On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:11:08 +1100, you wrote: Hello Michael In all the four-cylinder production cars there is a single horizontal and a single vertical metal piece that serves the main purpose of ensuring that the air that comes in through the grille goes through the radiator. That the vertical piece also prevents being able to see from one wheel opening to the other is purely secondary. Have a look at this page from the AH Spares website and it's numbers 68 and 69 on the right hand side. https://www.ahspares.co.uk/big-healey/inner-body-panels-ibp101-to-ibp286a/ There is no such similar horizontal fitting on the production six-cylinder cars so that a lot of the air that comes through the grille escapes below the radiator and serves no worthwhile purpose. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 9:52 AM To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn Cc: Robert Begani; Austin Healey Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel Patrick I have never seen anything re a "shovel" either standard or optional to 100's Can you expand on this? i was always of the impression that the purpose of the vertical divider was esthetic to prevent one's seeing through the opposite wheel opening when a car was viewed from the side. Best--Michael Oritt On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 4:54 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn wrote: Hello Such a fitting was standard to the four-cylinder cars including a vertical piece directly behind the centre of the grille. During the late 1980s I made up a similar fitting to the BN3 which made a big difference. The Healey Duncan has a similar fitting for channelling the air upwards and through the radiator. Hoo Roo Patrick Quinn Blue Mountains, Australia -----Original Message----- From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Begani Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 3:22 AM To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; 'Healey Email list' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel The pictures did not have my comments attached, !. Trim the shovel to fit the frame. 2. Shows the way the it should fit to the frame with the flange pointing down. However, I cut the valve hole wrong and had to flip flop it. 3. Note the lip should be pointing down so you can install the mounting screws to the frame from underneath and remember to get the hole for the radiator drain valve large enough to install it. 4. Painted the same color as the car. Looks good and really funnels the air into the engine compartment so you do not over heat down to 30-40 mph. 5. Should have been a factory install. I recommend the Shovel baffle for all Healey cars. There never is too much cooling air flowing through the engine compartment. When I was test driving my Healey after the rebuild without the tunnel, I could feel the air flowing through the engine compartment like a tornado. Bob Begani -----Original Message----- From: Bob Begani Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:05 PM To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; Bob Begani ; Healey Email list Subject: Radiator shovel Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someone on the list which I no longer have -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rfbegani at gmail.com Thu Oct 31 02:55:20 2019 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Robert Begani) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 04:55:20 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BSF Bolts 1/4" x 4.1/2" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006501d58fc8$ed5b1c20$c8115460$@gmail.com> I have a friend who is needs BSF Bolts. Can any of you recommend someone: Here is the bolt size, I am looking for. I need 3 bolts 1/4 inch strong and 4 1/4 or 4 1/2 long with the British Standard Fine thread, which has a pitch of 26 per inch. Bob Begani -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Thu Oct 31 04:01:54 2019 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 06:01:54 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] FW: BSF Bolts 1/4" x 4.1/2" In-Reply-To: <006501d58fc8$ed5b1c20$c8115460$@gmail.com> References: <006501d58fc8$ed5b1c20$c8115460$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2af8fa13-94ee-90b3-69b3-023d392b9541@earthlink.net> British Tools & Fasteners: http://www.britishfasteners.com I don't see anything longer than 3", but suggest that you contact them (Jon Caswell). Cheers, Bob Haskell Austin Healey 3000 BN7/BT7 registrar On 10/31/19 4:55 AM, Robert Begani wrote: > I have a friend who is needs BSF Bolts.? Can any of you recommend someone: > > Here is the bolt size, I am looking for. > > I need 3 bolts 1/4 inch strong and? 4 1/4 or 4 1/2 long with the British > Standard Fine thread, which has a pitch of 26 per inch. > > Bob Begani > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > From rfbegani at gmail.com Thu Oct 31 06:32:47 2019 From: rfbegani at gmail.com (Robert Begani) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 08:32:47 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel In-Reply-To: <001201d58f74$5e294940$1a7bdbc0$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <9A1EB85A-C68D-449C-8867-7F4D1C40737B@gmail.com> <001201d58f74$5e294940$1a7bdbc0$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <00d501d58fe7$4e3b63b0$eab22b10$@gmail.com> Thanks Simon those pictures where what I was looking for when I started to make my Shovel Baffle whatever. I maintain it really helps in hot climates which are getting hotter. Still waiting for the cool northerly winds which are the reason we live in in South Florida. Also, makes for enjoyable sailing days. Bob Begani -----Original Message----- From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 6:50 PM To: 'Bob Begani' ; eyera3000 at gmail.com; 'Healey Email list' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Radiator shovel Here's what I filed away. All cobbled together but may help. Glad that we don't really have these cooling issues here. Touch wood!! Simon -----Original Message----- From: Healeys On Behalf Of Bob Begani Sent: 30 October 2019 16:05 To: eyera3000 at gmail.com; Bob Begani ; Healey Email list Subject: [Healeys] Radiator shovel Here are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someone on the list which I no longer have From airtightproductions at icloud.com Thu Oct 31 11:17:23 2019 From: airtightproductions at icloud.com (Steven Kingsbury) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 17:17:23 -0000 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator Shovel, continued Message-ID: Patrick, ???Here are a couple of shots of my car back in 2007 when I installed an electric fan to help with cooling. As you can see, it was quite easy as nothing was in the way! The fan didn't help though and I found another solution to that problem, but like I said, lots of room in there! Steven -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Girling Remote Reservoir Master Cylinder - Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies | | | | $124.99 | | | | | | | Girling Remote Reservoir Master Cylinder - Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies Girling remote-reservoir Master Cylinders can be used for brake or clutch. These are Brand-New, Genuine Girling ... | | | Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyrik at gmail.com Thu Oct 31 13:04:00 2019 From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:04:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Girling Master In-Reply-To: <348333319.5139760.1572546437513@mail.yahoo.com> References: <348333319.5139760.1572546437513.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <348333319.5139760.1572546437513@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Mike, That doesn't look like the 100 MC to me, but I'll leave it to the 100 experts to be sure. Anyway, the Girling # for the 100 is 64067531 You might call Pegasus to see if they carry it. I try to buy all my Girling stuff from them, much better than the usual suspects. Rick Neville 4 On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 2:27 PM Michael MacLean wrote: > Just ran across this in an email advert from Pegasus Racing. Would this > fit the 100? I don't know off hand what the thread sizes are for the two > connections, but if they are the same this would be a cheaper alternative > for an actual Girling unit. > > Girling Remote Reservoir Master Cylinder - Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies > > > $124.99 > Girling Remote Reservoir Master Cylinder - Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies > > Girling remote-reservoir Master Cylinders can be used for brake or clutch. > These are Brand-New, Genuine Girling ... > > > > Mike MacLean > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Oct 31 13:12:52 2019 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 15:12:52 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Girling Master In-Reply-To: References: <348333319.5139760.1572546437513.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <348333319.5139760.1572546437513@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Rick's suspicion is correct. It is not the same configuration as the MC for a 100 which fastens via two bolts that go athwartship (side to side) to the left-side longitudinal chassis rail. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:05 PM HealeyRick wrote: > Hi Mike, > > That doesn't look like the 100 MC to me, but I'll leave it to the 100 > experts to be sure. Anyway, the Girling # for the 100 is 64067531 You > might call Pegasus to see if they carry it. I try to buy all my Girling > stuff from them, much better than the usual suspects. > > Rick Neville > 4 > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 2:27 PM Michael MacLean > wrote: > >> Just ran across this in an email advert from Pegasus Racing. Would this >> fit the 100? I don't know off hand what the thread sizes are for the two >> connections, but if they are the same this would be a cheaper alternative >> for an actual Girling unit. >> >> Girling Remote Reservoir Master Cylinder - Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies >> >> >> $124.99 >> Girling Remote Reservoir Master Cylinder - Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies >> >> Girling remote-reservoir Master Cylinders can be used for brake or >> clutch. These are Brand-New, Genuine Girling ... >> >> >> >> Mike MacLean >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The fan didn't help though and I found > another solution to that problem, but like I said, lots of room in there! > Steven > > IMG_0455.JPG > IMG_0453.JPG > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0455.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1490783 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The fan didn't help though and I found another solution to that problem, but like I said, lots of room in there! Steven _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0453.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1502067 bytes Desc: not available URL: From healeyrik at gmail.com Thu Oct 31 19:23:51 2019 From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 21:23:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator Shovel, continued In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Having a V8 Healey, I'm no stranger to solving cooling problems and have read tons of stuff from fan makers, hot rod builders, race car folks, etc. etc. With the type of fan Steve has pictured, they recommend mounting it directly against the radiator core with no space in between the fan frame and the core. Kees is correct in that air will escape from the space left between the fan and radiator. It probably won't make it totally ineffective, just reduce how well it works which would explain why Steve could get a positive result from fitting the electric fan but possibly not the best result. Top tip. Always check the way your fan is working after installation. Many can be adapted to be pushers or pullers depending on how the fan is mounted to the motor and the direction the motor turns can be changed by the way the two wires are hooked up to the motor. After spending a day installing my BFF, I took out the Nasty Boy to revel in the cooling improvements I had made. The temp gauge zoomed right up. Limped home and holding a piece of tissue paper in front of the grille with the fan running I noticed it was blowing away from the grille instead of being sucked in. After swapping the fan blade around, it cooled much better. Rick Neville. On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 7:24 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > What? The fan was less than an inch (2.54 centimeters) away from the > radiator core, can't get much closer than that and like I said, I solved > the problem I had another way. How close should you mount a fan to not let > air escape? > S > > On October 31, 2019 at 1:24 PM, Kees Oudesluijs > wrote: > > This fan cannot work properly because it is to far away from the core and > air escapes from the space between fan and core. > > Kees Oudesluijs > > > > Op 31-10-2019 om 18:17 schreef Steven Kingsbury via Healeys: > > Patrick, > Here are a couple of shots of my car back in 2007 when I installed an > electric fan to help with cooling. As you can see, it was quite easy as > nothing was in the way! The fan didn't help though and I found another > solution to that problem, but like I said, lots of room in there! > Steven > > [image: IMG_0453.JPG] > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive > Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The two pieces on a 100, especially the flat bottom panel, are there to direct air coming through the grille to the radiator core and minimize the air from redirecting under the radiator/chassis. The later cars use the two side splash panels that attempts to control the air flow to the radiator with out the lower flat panel used on the 100. The shovel scoop as shown in Simons photo actually scoops the air from beneath the front of the car and forces it up towards the rad core. At speed this would potentially increase the air flow through the core. Sounds good but in most cases the air flow and the cooling ability of the stock setup on our cars is adequate at speed. This once again gets back to the fact that most of our cooling problems are while idling when the stock fans produce very little cubic feet of air flow. Increase the stock fans to 2000 RPM and the fan is now producing more CFM than most of the smaller (12 Inch diameter or so) electric fans on the market. I ran the numbers a year or two ago and do not remember the exact numbers as that sheet of paper has been lost in my sea of Healey info. I may have posted that info to the list back then but that source also did not produce any results. Hope everyone is having a fun day?.we are about to get, in the next few days, the first dusting of snow for the season. That is if you trust the weather folks. Perry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Oct 31 21:21:40 2019 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2019 23:21:40 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator Shovel, continued In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have what looks like the same size fan similarly mounted directly to the front side of the cross-braces on my 100, though with screws. It definitely works in challenging situations such as when stuck in traffic, etc. I chose not use a thermostatically controlled switch and turn it on before temps start to rise in order to get a jump on things. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 1:57 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Patrick, > Here are a couple of shots of my car back in 2007 when I installed an > electric fan to help with cooling. As you can see, it was quite easy as > nothing was in the way! The fan didn't help though and I found another > solution to that problem, but like I said, lots of room in there! > Steven > > [image: IMG_0455.JPG] > [image: IMG_0453.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0453.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1502067 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0455.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1490783 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ynotink at msn.com Thu Oct 31 21:30:10 2019 From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 03:30:10 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator Shovel, continued In-Reply-To: <414932aa-3ff6-bd38-0107-a68f6a5dffb8@chello.nl> References: , <414932aa-3ff6-bd38-0107-a68f6a5dffb8@chello.nl> Message-ID: I agree with Kees. The fan has to be mounted on the radiator core to overcome the pressure drop of the core. I installed two 10" Hayden fans behind the cross bracing, pushing through the radiator core with foam seals to the core and blanking plates at the sides to direct all the air possible through the core. I deleted the mechanical fan on the water pump shaft and added an adjustable thermo-switch controlled by a tubular probe inserted below the radiator inlet. The thermo-switch is set to turn on at about 185 F and off at about 175 F. I have idled the car for long periods of time at ambient temperatures above 95 F without overheating. On the road to Deadwood across northern Colorado and the Nebraska panhandle with the ambient nearing 100 F the engine never got hot enough to turn the fans on. I didn't realize how much room I would gain by leaving off the mechanical fan or I would probably have mounted the fans as pullers behind the radiator. That would have been simpler and probably even more effective. If anyone is interested I'll try to get some pics. Bill Lawrence BN1 #554 ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Kees Oudesluijs Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 7:27 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator Shovel, continued This fan cannot work properly because it is to far away from the core and air escapes from the space between fan and core. Kees Oudesluijs Op 31-10-2019 om 18:17 schreef Steven Kingsbury via Healeys: Patrick, Here are a couple of shots of my car back in 2007 when I installed an electric fan to help with cooling. As you can see, it was quite easy as nothing was in the way! The fan didn't help though and I found another solution to that problem, but like I said, lots of room in there! Steven [IMG_0455.JPG] [IMG_0453.JPG] _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Thu, Oct 31, 2019, 9:09 PM Michael Oritt wrote: > I have what looks like the same size fan similarly mounted directly to the > front side of the cross-braces on my 100, though with screws. > It definitely works in challenging situations such as when stuck in > traffic, etc. I chose not use a thermostatically controlled switch and > turn it on before temps start to rise in order to get a jump on things. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 1:57 PM Steven Kingsbury via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Patrick, >> Here are a couple of shots of my car back in 2007 when I installed an >> electric fan to help with cooling. As you can see, it was quite easy as >> nothing was in the way! The fan didn't help though and I found another >> solution to that problem, but like I said, lots of room in there! >> Steven >> >> [image: IMG_0455.JPG] >> [image: IMG_0453.JPG] >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0453.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1502067 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0455.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 1490783 bytes Desc: not available URL: From coudesluijs at chello.nl Thu Oct 31 23:53:43 2019 From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 06:53:43 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator Shovel, continued In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98f851bf-620f-354b-db73-4142edfeffda@chello.nl> An inch is way to much space. The air will largely escape between core and cowling. The fan shown should have been fitted straight to the core without any space between core and cowling. Problem is there is some bracing in the way so to be effective fitting the fan should be fitted as a puller behind the radiator, the bracing should be modified or a smaller fan should be fitted to fit within the bracing. Perhaps there is (can be made?) enough space between core and bracing to fit a fan behind the bracing? Kees Oudesluijs Op 1-11-2019 om 00:07 schreef Steven Kingsbury: > What? The fan was less than an inch (2.54 centimeters) away from the > radiator core, can't get much closer than that and like I said, I > solved the problem I had another way.? How close should you mount a > fan to not let air escape? > S > > On October 31, 2019 at 1:24 PM, Kees Oudesluijs > wrote: > >> This fan cannot work properly because it is to far away from the core >> and air escapes from the space between fan and core. >> >> Kees Oudesluijs >> >> >> >> Op 31-10-2019 om 18:17 schreef Steven Kingsbury via Healeys: >>> Patrick, >>> ???Here are a couple of shots of my car back in 2007 when I >>> installed an electric fan to help with cooling. As you can see, it >>> was quite easy as nothing was in the way! The fan didn't help though >>> and I found another solution to that problem, but like I said, lots >>> of room in there! >>> Steven >>> >>> IMG_0453.JPG >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SupportTeam.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/coudesluijs at chello.nl >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Contact Jon Edwards at 815-355-4834. Best--Michael Oritt On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 2:11 AM John Spaur wrote: > It is not a maximum diameter, it is a minimum thickness of the drum. I > don?t know what that is for Sprite drums. Wish I could be more helpful. > > > > John Spaur > > > > *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Michael > MacLean > *Sent:* Monday, October 28, 2019 10:03 PM > *To:* banjojohn ; i erbs > *Cc:* Ahealey help > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] rear rake drum source? > > > > No one can answer what maximum diameter to cut is on Sprite drums. Had > mine turned at a local foreign auto repair shop for 10 bucks a drum. Some > had to be cut deep and one almost just a skim cut. Now one of my slave > cylinders in the front is leaking and soaking the shoe. Car pulls hard to > the left when the brakes are applied. Could be dangerous if you are not > ready for it. Have all new cylinders to install that I bought from Ed back > in 2005! Just never got around to it. > > Mike MacLean > > > > On Monday, October 28, 2019, 9:15:35 PM PDT, i erbs > wrote: > > > > > > I had the new drums on my Sorite project turned at a machine shop. He said > they had five high spots. Round and true now. > > Ira Erbs > Portland, OR > typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone > > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 11:02 AM John wrote: > > Hi Listers: > > I am trying to find a source for some new rear brake drums for my BJ8. > My old drums seem to be out of round, as they drag in certain spots and > turn free in others as I rotate them. I ordered a new pair through a > recommended reseller for M**s and when I mounted them, they also drug in > a couple spots and turned free in others. I tried running them but had > a significant shake in the pedal on braking. They were also so close to > maximum inside diameter that I could not have them turned to true them > up. They were sent back. > > Any other recommended sources I should check to get good quality (round) > drums, that also might have enough metal to them that they could be > turned if need be? > > Thanks for any info > > John O'Brien > > '65 BJ8 (Madelyn) > > '61 Bugeye (Lucy) > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rrengineer.mike at att.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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