[Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 15, Issue 302

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Well Tom don’t beat around the bush. 

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  1. Re: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 (E.A. Driver)
  2. Re: Fw: 5 hr cruise in the Lanark Highlands admiring the
      colours! Lucky! (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
  3. Re: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 (KENNETH FLEMNG)
  4. Re: Fw: 5 hr cruise in the Lanark Highlands admiring the
      colours! Lucky! (Perry Small)
  5. Re: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
      (Patrick & Caroline Quinn)
  6. Re: Interior Insulation Kits? (Elton S)
  7. Small parts (Ray Juncal)
  8. Re: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 (Ray Juncal)
  9. Shock Conversion (Charles Rice)
  10. Re: Shock Conversion (John and Kerry Rowe)
  11. Re: Small parts (Michael Salter)
  Hi Mirek 
 
 You speak for yourself and a limited few not for all the individuals who are subscribers to the Healey list and either do not wish to comment or find Josef views quite acceptable and see not need to comment.  In reading Josef's post of October 7th (which appears at the bottom of this page) it is very concise and well stated.  Further, the individual driving the BN1/2 may have decided to avoid an accident but had not judged the verge of the road correctly (and all the related factors including his reflexes as an 82 year old person).
 
 Kind regards
 Ed
 
 E.A. Driver (former Historian and Director, AHCUSA)
 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
 
 
 On 08/10/2022 08:57, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote:
  
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Guys, let it be.  Josef has been clear on how he feels and we have collectively told him what we think of his opinions.  There will be no changing his mind, so lets accept that he lives by a different moral code that none of us (at least those that posted replies), agree with, and get back to using the list for providing mutual support to keep our Healeys on the road.
 
  
 
Cheers, Mirek
 
  
   
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Tom Felts via Healeys
 Sent: October 8, 2022 6:18 AM
 To: Gil Rockwell <gilrockwell at gmail.com>
 Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
   
  
  
I haven't!!  But this will be MY last comment about this.  Josef YOU ARE A COMPLETE ASS HOLE!  Admin---delete me if you want, but there are times to say exactly what is needed to be said.
   
  
   
Tom
   
  
   
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 From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
 To: josef-eckert at t-online.de, healeys at autox.team.net
 Sent: Fri, 07 Oct 2022 22:11:18 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
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I’ve said enough, you don’t seem to get it, so I am ending this conversation.
 
 
  
Gil
  
 
   
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de <josef-eckert at t-online.de> 
 Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 9:43 PM
 To: healeys at autox.team.net
 Cc: gilrockwell at gmail.com
 Subject: WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
   
 
 
 
 
So it isn´t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth?
  
Is that the world you are living?
 But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of his vehicle while 
driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself and his wife in an accident. Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have collided with another road user which can be very likely and 
this would have been injured or killed. The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the person who caused the 
accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated and the driver's license would have been 
withdrawn forever. No mercy! The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not have been happy with his life anymore. Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation.
It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit to such a danger. I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well, as is customary in Italy.  
 
 
Josef
 
54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original-Nachricht-----
 
Betreff: RE: [Healey’s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
 
Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200
 
Von: "Gil Rockwell" <gilrockwell at gmail.com>
 
An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>, "healeyrik at gmail.com" <healeyrik at gmail.com>, "'Forum Healey'" <healeys at autox.team.net>
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
In a polite society if you don’t have anything positive to say, just be quiet,  your negative comments help no one.  Perhaps when you grow in age, you will come to understand.  
 
 
  
Gil
 
 
 
61 BT7
  
 
   
From:josef-eckert at t-online.de <josef-eckert at t-online.de> 
 Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM
 To: Gil Rockwell <gilrockwell at gmail.com>; healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey <healeys at autox.team.net>
 Subject: AW: [Healey’s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
   
 
 
Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion.
 
We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the own, should be allowed without shouting against each other..
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original-Nachricht-----
 
Betreff: RE: [Healey’s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
 
Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200
 
Von: "Gil Rockwell" <gilrockwell at gmail.com>
 
An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>, "healeyrik at gmail.com" <healeyrik at gmail.com>, "'Forum Healey'" <healeys at autox.team.net>
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all.  What you have said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional.
 
 
 
Gil
 
61 BT7
 
 
  
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys
 Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM
 To:healeyrik at gmail.com; Forum Healey <healeys at autox.team.net>
 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
  
 
 
I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. 
 Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. 
  
  
  
Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. 
  
  
  
Josef Eckert 
 Königswinter GERMANY 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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--- Original-Nachricht --- 
 Von: HealeyRick via Healeys 
 Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100 
 Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 
 An: Randy Hicks 
 Cc: Healey List 
  
  
  

 I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this accident.  She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux
  
  
  

 Rick Neville 
  
  
  

 On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: 
  
  
  
Awful.  
  
  
  

 https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/
  
  
  

 Randy 
  
  
  
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Dare we ask how old’s your sister?

Simon

  

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dr C A Rubino via Healeys
Sent: 08 October 2022 17:47
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Fw: 5 hr cruise in the Lanark Highlands admiring the colours! Lucky!

  

My sister took this pic on an annual 5 hr cruise in eastern ontario to view the leaves changing colour.

  

  

  

 

 
I second that Michael and Sarah!!.

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=EF=BB=BFHear, hear Sarah....=F0=9F=91=8D=
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=Trees are starting to change color here in western Pennsylvania. A little cooler but a nice change. Good time for a top down cruise. Perry

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Hello

  

I wasn’t going to comment, but have had a change of mind. 

  

After being a member of this list for close to 30 years for the first time I considered chucking it in. I do not share Josef’s opinion.

  

We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state them without fear or favour. There are also ways and places of passing on opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. What I have seen here over the last few days simply shocked me and I am of the belief that it’s time to move on.

  

Hoo Roo

  

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

  

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2022 4:43 AM
To: S.Carr <britfan1 at epix.net>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

  

Hear, hear Sarah....👍

  

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 I used a sheet of Dynaliner insulation, 32"x54"x1/4" thick and Eastwood's thermacoustic alum/adhesive under it for the floor boards and tunnel cover. Very happy with it.Elton, BJ7
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Does anyone have any recommendations from personal experience for a good interior (BJ7) insulation kit? More concerned with heat insulation than sound. What have you used and liked?
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Anyone out there have one of these that they would be willing to part with? Not sure what to call it but it's the trim cap on the O.D. toggle switch. Details, details, details.
Thanks 
Ray


 Well put Patrick. Are we all that old and crabby with nothing better to do?Ray

    On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 08:50:52 PM PDT, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
Hello

  

I wasn’t going to comment, but have had a change of mind. 

  

After being a member of this list for close to 30 years for the first time I considered chucking it in. I do not share Josef’s opinion.

  

We are all entitled to our own opinions and should be free to state them without fear or favour. There are also ways and places of passing on opinions, and this avenue is not one of them. What I have seen here over the last few days simply shocked me and I am of the belief that it’s time to move on.

  

Hoo Roo

  

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

  

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100

  

Hear, hear Sarah....👍

  

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Advice/Opinions please on fitiing “Putzke’s Faharpass” shock conversion kit on my BN2, 

vs. having my originals lever shocks rebuilt.

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I have it and like it. I can’t comment as to cost comparison to rebuild. Ride and handling is beautiful. 1959 bt7
John Rowe. Qld Australia 

Advice/Opinions please on fitiing “Putzke’s Faharpass” shock conversion kit on my BN2, 

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I have never seen one of those before Ray. Is it an original part?Certainly a vast improvement over the bare nut.
M
On Sun., Oct. 9, 2022, 1:11 a.m. Ray Juncal via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Anyone out there have one of these that they would be willing to part with? Not sure what to call it but it's the trim cap on the O.D. toggle switch. Details, details, details.
Thanks 
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