From bspidell at comcast.net  Wed Mar  1 10:40:50 2023
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 09:40:50 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Putzke
Message-ID: <baf8597f-2145-c4ba-be3c-3ecd0adefc59@comcast.net>

Just caught on my Facebook feed that Udo Putzke is looking to sell his 
damper business, in case anyone is interested.

From ryan at jimryan.com  Wed Mar  1 13:07:16 2023
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 15:07:16 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Shift Knob
In-Reply-To: <CABXhz8-AVdHz9nHRo4-4GzdCDcmtXKVx-7CNN1TVEupW=K2ASg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0509943AE915468E97B3AFC398FDEC9E@MargaretPC>
 <CAFBXTkL8+e03Ans2GRABJpMNVX=fjedWkVg3pAYY+shsHtuF8Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <ec04c8e8-a605-c7ff-d3b8-4c154215c5f0@comcast.net>
 <CABXhz8-AVdHz9nHRo4-4GzdCDcmtXKVx-7CNN1TVEupW=K2ASg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAEajuYxB_vb=K3WPM+wK=bZzXxXYErHhgH_AzfTUvfGOHb5PDQ@mail.gmail.com>

I thought Q had a patent on that....

That is the BALLS!

On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 12:08?PM i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Amazing work without a lathe.
>
> Ira Erbs
>
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023, 8:00 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I just mumble 'Engaging warp drive' under my breath (normal people
>> already think people who drive old British sports cars are crazy enough).
>>
>>
>> On 2/27/2023 11:37 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:
>>
>> I hope you make machine gun sounds when you press that switch.... like
>> you are in the Battle of Britain with your Hurricane.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 3:32?PM Leonard Hartnett <
>> thehartnetts at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ira:  Here is my shift knob.  It is stained to match my BJ8 dash and has
>>> the OD switch imbeded.  I made from a block of hard wood.  I do not
>>> remember the details of the process but I made it without a lathe.
>>>
>>>               The Other Len
>>> 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
>>>                 HBJ8L39031
>>>
>>>
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From bgdrab at redzone.ca  Wed Mar  1 13:19:47 2023
From: bgdrab at redzone.ca (Brian Drab)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 20:19:47 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister
Message-ID: <YT3P288MB0286DC9DE2BB090DB80B1EEFABAD9@YT3P288MB0286.CANP288.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Several times in the last year I have received emails purportedly from Michael Salter. All they say is a variation of "Have a look at these photos you might find them interesting"
The thing that alerted me was the sender email address is definitely from Michael Salter (Who I know of but do not know).
Obviously there is a link that I am requested to click on to "get the photos" . See the attachment.
I am wondering if other listers have been getting them and - Attention Michael Salter, someone is using your name.
Brian Drab



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From s.hutchings at rogers.com  Wed Mar  1 14:06:13 2023
From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (s.hutchings)
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2023 16:06:13 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister
In-Reply-To: <YT3P288MB0286DC9DE2BB090DB80B1EEFABAD9@YT3P288MB0286.CANP288.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <1167434060.694298.1677704776892@rogers.com>

I've been finding the same thing from Roger Grace in my spam folder. The reason I know, is that for some reason the Healey list emails often get sent to spam, so I have to check it periodically.?Stephen,? BJ8Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Brian Drab <bgdrab at redzone.ca> Date: 2023-03-01  3:52 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister 

Several times in the last year I have received emails purportedly from Michael Salter. All they say is a variation of ?Have a look at these photos you might find them interesting?
The thing that alerted me was the sender email address is definitely from Michael Salter (Who I know of but do not know).
Obviously there is a link that I am requested to click on to ?get the photos? . See the attachment.
I am wondering if other listers have been getting them and ? Attention Michael Salter, someone is using your name.
Brian Drab
?
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From gilrockwell at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 14:08:12 2023
From: gilrockwell at gmail.com (Gil Rockwell)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 16:08:12 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister
In-Reply-To: <YT3P288MB0286DC9DE2BB090DB80B1EEFABAD9@YT3P288MB0286.CANP288.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <YT3P288MB0286DC9DE2BB090DB80B1EEFABAD9@YT3P288MB0286.CANP288.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <014701d94c81$ef488620$cdd99260$@gmail.com>

I get these from a number of people who have my email address.  I always
hover the cursor over the sender's email address and it is always an unknown
email address than the one from it purports to be from.  I would not ever
click on any link, especially when I'm certain it will take you to a site
filled with malware.  I have received two such emails in the past 24 hours
like this and I know the real sender did not send it.  You could send them
an email to the known email address, never reply to the one in question, you
know what the reply will be on that one!

 

Gil

 

61 BT7

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Brian Drab
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2023 3:20 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister

 

Several times in the last year I have received emails purportedly from
Michael Salter. All they say is a variation of "Have a look at these photos
you might find them interesting"

The thing that alerted me was the sender email address is definitely from
Michael Salter (Who I know of but do not know).

Obviously there is a link that I am requested to click on to "get the
photos" . See the attachment.

I am wondering if other listers have been getting them and - Attention
Michael Salter, someone is using your name.

Brian Drab

 

 


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From fredwescoe at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 14:13:08 2023
From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 16:13:08 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
Message-ID: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>

Listers,

I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a wrench
on it.
I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over the
sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a slot
in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.

Thanks,

Fred,
66 BJ8
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From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au  Wed Mar  1 15:10:14 2023
From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 09:10:14 +1100
Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister
In-Reply-To: <YT3P288MB0286DC9DE2BB090DB80B1EEFABAD9@YT3P288MB0286.CANP288.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <YT3P288MB0286DC9DE2BB090DB80B1EEFABAD9@YT3P288MB0286.CANP288.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <006501d94c8a$9b04ef50$d10ecdf0$@tpg.com.au>

Hello Brian

 

I regularly receive a number of messages supposedly from Austin-Healey
people using their names, but on looking at the incoming email address
clearly it's someone different and clearly a hoax or scam.

 

All are immediately sent to the junk folder and blocked.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Brian Drab
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 7:20 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister

 

Several times in the last year I have received emails purportedly from
Michael Salter. All they say is a variation of "Have a look at these photos
you might find them interesting"

The thing that alerted me was the sender email address is definitely from
Michael Salter (Who I know of but do not know).

Obviously there is a link that I am requested to click on to "get the
photos" . See the attachment.

I am wondering if other listers have been getting them and - Attention
Michael Salter, someone is using your name.

Brian Drab

 

 


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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 16:11:44 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:11:44 +1300
Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister
In-Reply-To: <1167434060.694298.1677704776892@rogers.com>
References: <YT3P288MB0286DC9DE2BB090DB80B1EEFABAD9@YT3P288MB0286.CANP288.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <1167434060.694298.1677704776892@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LJ+Ljnb61tXw+nfH+mZnTjy5V2vSmivatpgBwAVpSO-Fw@mail.gmail.com>

Correcting this is beyond my paygrade but I have contacted my tech support
division (son) who is looking into a correction.
My apologies to anyone inconvenienced.
M

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 11:04?AM s.hutchings via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I've been finding the same thing from Roger Grace in my spam folder. The
> reason I know, is that for some reason the Healey list emails often get
> sent to spam, so I have to check it periodically.
>
> Stephen,  BJ8
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Brian Drab <bgdrab at redzone.ca>
> Date: 2023-03-01 3:52 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: healeys at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister
>
> Several times in the last year I have received emails purportedly from
> Michael Salter. All they say is a variation of ?Have a look at these photos
> you might find them interesting?
>
> The thing that alerted me was the sender email address is definitely from
> Michael Salter (Who I know of but do not know).
>
> Obviously there is a link that I am requested to click on to ?get the
> photos? . See the attachment.
>
> I am wondering if other listers have been getting them and ? Attention
> Michael Salter, someone is using your name.
>
> Brian Drab
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Wed Mar  1 16:20:59 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 23:20:59 -0000
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000a01d94c94$7c53ae70$74fb0b50$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Can?t remember the size but someone will tell you.

 

I didn?t use a socket but chose to use a spare ring spanner. Of course, I cut the first one on the wrong side and it broke. Cut the next one on other side and it was fine.

 

Put a bit of CoppaSlip ? or whatever you call it -  on the threads when you replace it.

Simon

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe
Sent: 01 March 2023 21:13
To: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Listers,

 

I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a wrench on it.

I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Fred, 

66 BJ8

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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 16:22:44 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:22:44 +1300
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LJEZCUpeFtsWbzGOw-0Gr4g6MCGiDd62OvcOEt2gAh_=w@mail.gmail.com>

You need to use a 3/8" drive "deep " 5/8 AF socket. I would recommend
installing a hose clamp over the socket down near the split open end to
prevent the socket from spreading.
This is what I use.
[image: image.png]

M


On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 12:06?PM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a
> wrench on it.
> I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over
> the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a
> slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred,
> 66 BJ8
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From manifold at telus.net  Wed Mar  1 16:23:57 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 15:23:57 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCCnKG9omaSPhun5N7oOX4n3v__rYeSFPEpa6VT3a1BHyA@mail.gmail.com>

Fred,

I had to make a socket to fit the temp sensor a few months ago. See
attached picture. I used a cheap 5/8" 6 point spark plug socket from the
local auto parts store. The socket must have flats at the top so you can
use a wrench as the cable to the temp gauge interferes with a ratchet. The
slot is about 3/16" wide and I cut it with a cut off disk on my angle
grinder.

Harold

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:09?PM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a
> wrench on it.
> I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over
> the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a
> slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred,
> 66 BJ8
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From manifold at telus.net  Wed Mar  1 16:27:28 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 15:27:28 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Lower Stator Tube Round 2
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCDM6FxOnkQOy55VNum4v-LeHN3iqbNM7Mp3s0t1-UHBEg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

My new lower stator tube for adjustable steering arrived and I fitted it
together with the trafficator on the bench. The slot in the lower tube is
about 4" long and the maximum engagement between the two tubes is about 2
1/4". See attached picture. Is that how it should look or should there be
more engagement?

Thanks... Harold
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 16:28:06 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 12:28:06 +1300
Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister
In-Reply-To: <1167434060.694298.1677704776892@rogers.com>
References: <YT3P288MB0286DC9DE2BB090DB80B1EEFABAD9@YT3P288MB0286.CANP288.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <1167434060.694298.1677704776892@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LJSidzGz4+C=BFxgT9OhruqMNYKncsCk8d9JHex3iCWUA@mail.gmail.com>

Unfortunately it seems that there really isn't much that I can do to
prevent someone using my name to send spoof email to the list. Apparently
the list administrators can block the addresses that these actually come
from but that is up to them.
As suggested please take a second to check that such emails are either from
michaelsalter at gmail. com or michaelsalter at precisionsportscar.com

M

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 11:04?AM s.hutchings via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I've been finding the same thing from Roger Grace in my spam folder. The
> reason I know, is that for some reason the Healey list emails often get
> sent to spam, so I have to check it periodically.
>
> Stephen,  BJ8
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Brian Drab <bgdrab at redzone.ca>
> Date: 2023-03-01 3:52 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: healeys at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister
>
> Several times in the last year I have received emails purportedly from
> Michael Salter. All they say is a variation of ?Have a look at these photos
> you might find them interesting?
>
> The thing that alerted me was the sender email address is definitely from
> Michael Salter (Who I know of but do not know).
>
> Obviously there is a link that I am requested to click on to ?get the
> photos? . See the attachment.
>
> I am wondering if other listers have been getting them and ? Attention
> Michael Salter, someone is using your name.
>
> Brian Drab
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> This message has been checked by Libraesva ESG and is believed to be clean.
> _______________________________________________
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From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar  1 16:36:11 2023
From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 23:36:11 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister
In-Reply-To: <014701d94c81$ef488620$cdd99260$@gmail.com>
References: <YT3P288MB0286DC9DE2BB090DB80B1EEFABAD9@YT3P288MB0286.CANP288.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <014701d94c81$ef488620$cdd99260$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR19MB2687B9D2D8933A97F1975CBDBFAD9@MN2PR19MB2687.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

I?ve been getting them for quite awhile; most but not all go to spam.
Haven?t opened any yet,

Regards,
Richard C
BN7 440

On Mar 1, 2023, at 16:39, Gil Rockwell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
I get these from a number of people who have my email address.  I always hover the cursor over the sender?s email address and it is always an unknown email address than the one from it purports to be from.  I would not ever click on any link, especially when I?m certain it will take you to a site filled with malware.  I have received two such emails in the past 24 hours like this and I know the real sender did not send it.  You could send them an email to the known email address, never reply to the one in question, you know what the reply will be on that one!

Gil

61 BT7

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Brian Drab
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2023 3:20 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Bogus emails from a lister

Several times in the last year I have received emails purportedly from Michael Salter. All they say is a variation of ?Have a look at these photos you might find them interesting?
The thing that alerted me was the sender email address is definitely from Michael Salter (Who I know of but do not know).
Obviously there is a link that I am requested to click on to ?get the photos? . See the attachment.
I am wondering if other listers have been getting them and ? Attention Michael Salter, someone is using your name.
Brian Drab



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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 18:02:32 2023
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 17:02:32 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06b101d94ca2$acece700$06c6b500$@gmail.com>

I just looked in my toolbox and found a deep 5/8 that has the slot cut in it, and it does fit the temp sensor on my BJ-8.

 

----------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 1:13 PM
To: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Listers,

 

I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a wrench on it.

I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Fred, 

66 BJ8

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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 18:05:32 2023
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 17:05:32 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06d301d94ca3$1840cb20$48c26160$@gmail.com>

PS: don?t cut the slot too wide, lest you weaken the socket. It WILL snap off if it doesn?t have sufficient strength [says the voice of experience?].

 

----------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 1:13 PM
To: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Listers,

 

I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a wrench on it.

I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Fred, 

66 BJ8

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From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz  Wed Mar  1 21:52:33 2023
From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 17:52:33 +1300
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <000a01d94c94$7c53ae70$74fb0b50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
 <000a01d94c94$7c53ae70$74fb0b50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <000001d94cc2$ce7aa1d0$6b6fe570$@xtra.co.nz>

Fred,

This is the tool I made under the watchful eye of Bill Bolton in his Corvallis workshop some 40 years ago.  

I purchased an inexpensive Thorsen spanner and cut the gap with a chain wire saw.  

The open end comes in handy on occasion for adjusting carb jet nuts.

 



 

And, some of you might be interested in this nifty tool Bill made for me for getting at those difficult nuts under the carburettors.

 

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 



 

 

 

 

 

From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> 
Sent: Thursday, 2 March 2023 12:21 PM
To: 'Fred Wescoe' <fredwescoe at gmail.com>; 'healeys' <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Can?t remember the size but someone will tell you.

 

I didn?t use a socket but chose to use a spare ring spanner. Of course, I cut the first one on the wrong side and it broke. Cut the next one on other side and it was fine.

 

Put a bit of CoppaSlip ? or whatever you call it -  on the threads when you replace it.

Simon

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe
Sent: 01 March 2023 21:13
To: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Listers,

 

I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a wrench on it.

I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Fred, 

66 BJ8

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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Wed Mar  1 22:17:51 2023
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 00:17:51 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <CAB3i7LJEZCUpeFtsWbzGOw-0Gr4g6MCGiDd62OvcOEt2gAh_=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAB3i7LJEZCUpeFtsWbzGOw-0Gr4g6MCGiDd62OvcOEt2gAh_=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <007e01d94cc6$5677d5f0$036781d0$@sympatico.ca>

Fred ? mine looks just like Mike?s ? works a treat.  I have tried with a ring spanner but it slipped around the nut and of course you can?t put a clamp on it.

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: March 1, 2023 6:23 PM
To: Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

You need to use a 3/8" drive "deep " 5/8 AF socket. I would recommend installing a hose clamp over the socket down near the split open end to prevent the socket from spreading.

This is what I use.



 

M

 

 

On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 12:06?PM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com <mailto:fredwescoe at gmail.com> > wrote:

Listers,

 

I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a wrench on it.

I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Fred, 

66 BJ8

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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Wed Mar  1 23:39:52 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 14:39:52 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTkLZBfbJWOKC2_T8btFYP56ya2VdbnDgrxeO3rfPtmzT1w@mail.gmail.com>

I know they are a little pricey but the 5/8" Flare nut socket from Snap-On
is excellent for this purpose.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125465071883?epid=1230001823&hash=item1d364d110b:g:eKIAAOSwEONi-mvC&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsP2Jrxhn2%2FR%2FQI86O9ynUeTkcltEQubg72psafWi3ARXFcATXMD8ji%2BYFJdRh255pEwNv5p48OLYiBuS%2BLUMOGQelfmb9Ewq1GAEy2V6xOX2HZjQlV%2Fel%2BpupViqCbPusQQyNrItCKkeDIKf%2FXrdZLsLXJ%2F1ZGHQYeJAO%2BSjtrdlFIyucj8yLOqVubPbeOtZWNQ9lwuaK82anb%2FvqGWb5RzOPQl5JsudftHmROTuAySi%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_qL15DUYQ



On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 7:16?AM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a
> wrench on it.
> I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over
> the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a
> slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred,
> 66 BJ8
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Thu Mar  2 05:48:33 2023
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 07:48:33 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <06d301d94ca3$1840cb20$48c26160$@gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
 <06d301d94ca3$1840cb20$48c26160$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a301d94d05$4c51e130$e4f5a390$@sympatico.ca>

That is why you need to have the hose clamp around the socket after putting it on the nut and feeding the capillary tube through the slot.

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of alfuller194 at gmail.com
Sent: March 1, 2023 8:06 PM
To: 'Fred Wescoe' <fredwescoe at gmail.com>; 'healeys' <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

PS: don?t cut the slot too wide, lest you weaken the socket. It WILL snap off if it doesn?t have sufficient strength [says the voice of experience?].

 

----------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 1:13 PM
To: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Listers,

 

I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a wrench on it.

I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Fred, 

66 BJ8

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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Thu Mar  2 10:21:38 2023
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 09:21:38 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <000001d94cc2$ce7aa1d0$6b6fe570$@xtra.co.nz>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
 <000a01d94c94$7c53ae70$74fb0b50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <000001d94cc2$ce7aa1d0$6b6fe570$@xtra.co.nz>
Message-ID: <02dd01d94d2b$73850450$5a8f0cf0$@gmail.com>

Mark ? are the dimensions of the bend lengths important when making the carburetor tool? I likely have carb removal in my immediate future!

 

----------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 8:53 PM
To: 'Fred Wescoe' <fredwescoe at gmail.com>
Cc: 'healeys' <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Fred,

This is the tool I made under the watchful eye of Bill Bolton in his Corvallis workshop some 40 years ago.  

I purchased an inexpensive Thorsen spanner and cut the gap with a chain wire saw.  

The open end comes in handy on occasion for adjusting carb jet nuts.

 



 

And, some of you might be interested in this nifty tool Bill made for me for getting at those difficult nuts under the carburettors.

 

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 



 

 

 

 

 

From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>  <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, 2 March 2023 12:21 PM
To: 'Fred Wescoe' <fredwescoe at gmail.com <mailto:fredwescoe at gmail.com> >; 'healeys' <Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Can?t remember the size but someone will tell you.

 

I didn?t use a socket but chose to use a spare ring spanner. Of course, I cut the first one on the wrong side and it broke. Cut the next one on other side and it was fine.

 

Put a bit of CoppaSlip ? or whatever you call it -  on the threads when you replace it.

Simon

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe
Sent: 01 March 2023 21:13
To: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Listers,

 

I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a wrench on it.

I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Fred, 

66 BJ8

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From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz  Fri Mar  3 02:22:12 2023
From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 22:22:12 +1300
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <02dd01d94d2b$73850450$5a8f0cf0$@gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
 <000a01d94c94$7c53ae70$74fb0b50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <000001d94cc2$ce7aa1d0$6b6fe570$@xtra.co.nz>
 <02dd01d94d2b$73850450$5a8f0cf0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001d94db1$a3b30970$eb191c50$@xtra.co.nz>

Al,

I don?t think they are critical.  My measurements are from the hole centre to the bend:  2? for the short arm and 2?? for the longer arm.

 

Cheers,

Mark

 



 

 

From: alfuller194 at gmail.com <alfuller194 at gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, 3 March 2023 6:22 AM
To: 'Mark Donaldson' <ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz>; 'Fred Wescoe' <fredwescoe at gmail.com>
Cc: 'healeys' <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Mark ? are the dimensions of the bend lengths important when making the carburetor tool? I likely have carb removal in my immediate future!

 

----------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 8:53 PM
To: 'Fred Wescoe' <fredwescoe at gmail.com <mailto:fredwescoe at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'healeys' <Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Fred,

This is the tool I made under the watchful eye of Bill Bolton in his Corvallis workshop some 40 years ago.  

I purchased an inexpensive Thorsen spanner and cut the gap with a chain wire saw.  

The open end comes in handy on occasion for adjusting carb jet nuts.

 



 

And, some of you might be interested in this nifty tool Bill made for me for getting at those difficult nuts under the carburettors.

 

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 



 

 

 

 

 

From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>  <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, 2 March 2023 12:21 PM
To: 'Fred Wescoe' <fredwescoe at gmail.com <mailto:fredwescoe at gmail.com> >; 'healeys' <Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Can?t remember the size but someone will tell you.

 

I didn?t use a socket but chose to use a spare ring spanner. Of course, I cut the first one on the wrong side and it broke. Cut the next one on other side and it was fine.

 

Put a bit of CoppaSlip ? or whatever you call it -  on the threads when you replace it.

Simon

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe
Sent: 01 March 2023 21:13
To: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Listers,

 

I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a wrench on it.

I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Fred, 

66 BJ8

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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 06:38:51 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 05:38:51 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCCnKG9omaSPhun5N7oOX4n3v__rYeSFPEpa6VT3a1BHyA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAFP1XCCnKG9omaSPhun5N7oOX4n3v__rYeSFPEpa6VT3a1BHyA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABXhz8_Bz59ekKvNySQfK8WVvoTL9P2_EfKLTBC5WwzzO33V2w@mail.gmail.com>

Agreed.
Also, might want to put a hose clamp on it to keep it from spreading.open
clamp all the way, slide over tube, close back up on socket and tighten.
Spray with pn blaster.

Ira Erbs

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 6:47 PM Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:

> Fred,
>
> I had to make a socket to fit the temp sensor a few months ago. See
> attached picture. I used a cheap 5/8" 6 point spark plug socket from the
> local auto parts store. The socket must have flats at the top so you can
> use a wrench as the cable to the temp gauge interferes with a ratchet. The
> slot is about 3/16" wide and I cut it with a cut off disk on my angle
> grinder.
>
> Harold
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2023 at 3:09?PM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a
>> wrench on it.
>> I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over
>> the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a
>> slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Fred,
>> 66 BJ8
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From fredwescoe at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 08:56:50 2023
From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 10:56:50 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sensor
Message-ID: <CAPAC+V5XrxX2=xxn9ZM7gzriQZpgE5EFw2gK72WFQgZZrSN+XA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to the many who responded to my temp sensor removal issue on my BJ8.

I have the socket and will try cutting the slot today.

Thanks again,

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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Fri Mar  3 16:05:13 2023
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 15:05:13 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor
In-Reply-To: <000001d94db1$a3b30970$eb191c50$@xtra.co.nz>
References: <CAPAC+V4iwraU03dptvpOzj75OEVamEohD-DDvGWCVf9dypF2sw@mail.gmail.com>
 <000a01d94c94$7c53ae70$74fb0b50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <000001d94cc2$ce7aa1d0$6b6fe570$@xtra.co.nz>
 <02dd01d94d2b$73850450$5a8f0cf0$@gmail.com>
 <000001d94db1$a3b30970$eb191c50$@xtra.co.nz>
Message-ID: <03a701d94e24$9d6213e0$d8263ba0$@gmail.com>

OK ? good to know. Thanks.

 

----------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Mark Donaldson <ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz> 
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 1:22 AM
To: alfuller194 at gmail.com; 'Fred Wescoe' <fredwescoe at gmail.com>
Cc: 'healeys' <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Al,

I don?t think they are critical.  My measurements are from the hole centre to the bend:  2? for the short arm and 2?? for the longer arm.

 

Cheers,

Mark

 



 

 

From: alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com>  <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Friday, 3 March 2023 6:22 AM
To: 'Mark Donaldson' <ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz <mailto:ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz> >; 'Fred Wescoe' <fredwescoe at gmail.com <mailto:fredwescoe at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'healeys' <Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Mark ? are the dimensions of the bend lengths important when making the carburetor tool? I likely have carb removal in my immediate future!

 

----------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson
Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2023 8:53 PM
To: 'Fred Wescoe' <fredwescoe at gmail.com <mailto:fredwescoe at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'healeys' <Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Fred,

This is the tool I made under the watchful eye of Bill Bolton in his Corvallis workshop some 40 years ago.  

I purchased an inexpensive Thorsen spanner and cut the gap with a chain wire saw.  

The open end comes in handy on occasion for adjusting carb jet nuts.

 



 

And, some of you might be interested in this nifty tool Bill made for me for getting at those difficult nuts under the carburettors.

 

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 



 

 

 

 

 

From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>  <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, 2 March 2023 12:21 PM
To: 'Fred Wescoe' <fredwescoe at gmail.com <mailto:fredwescoe at gmail.com> >; 'healeys' <Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Can?t remember the size but someone will tell you.

 

I didn?t use a socket but chose to use a spare ring spanner. Of course, I cut the first one on the wrong side and it broke. Cut the next one on other side and it was fine.

 

Put a bit of CoppaSlip ? or whatever you call it -  on the threads when you replace it.

Simon

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe
Sent: 01 March 2023 21:13
To: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:Healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Temp sender sensor

 

Listers,

 

I am trying to remove the temp sensor from the head.  I cannot get a wrench on it.

I know several people have cut a groove in a socket and slipped it over the sensor.  Anyone have an idea what size socket I should use and cut a slot in it?  Any other ideas are also appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Fred, 

66 BJ8

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From simmonsmitch23 at gmail.com  Sun Mar  5 16:34:25 2023
From: simmonsmitch23 at gmail.com (Mitch Simmons)
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2023 18:34:25 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Differential Bearing Numbers
Message-ID: <638D2937-1A9B-46FC-A0A0-A328472F8586@gmail.com>

Hello,

Anyone have a list of all the BEARING id numbers used in a BJ8 differential (carrier,pinion,etc.)?
I want to cross reference to the best modern bearings available.

lmk
Thanks
Mitch

From thehartnetts at earthlink.net  Sun Mar  5 23:07:43 2023
From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard  Hartnett)
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2023 22:07:43 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] E15% Ethanol Gasoline
Message-ID: <8529EFEC22C54665B6005C50BDA24490@MargaretPC>


Something that owners of aging special interest cars, like our Healeys, may want to take notice of if they haven't already.  This is not a new subject as there was discussion of this here in the West a few years back.  

>From the Sacramento Bee newspaper, 3/2/2023:  "Biden sets in motion fuel policy shift to bolster ethanol."  A push is underway by some governors from corn-producing Midwestern states to increase ethanol content to 15 percent.  Will this create the uproar that the increase to 10 % caused years ago?  As questioned back then, will this destroy our engines?  It turned out that that did not happen.  Will the added 5 % be a problem? 

Just something to think about as it could affect us sooner or later.

              The Other Len
1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
                HBJ8L39031

Still hovering around 220,000 miles


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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Mon Mar  6 01:58:23 2023
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 09:58:23 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] E15% Ethanol Gasoline
In-Reply-To: <8529EFEC22C54665B6005C50BDA24490@MargaretPC>
References: <8529EFEC22C54665B6005C50BDA24490@MargaretPC>
Message-ID: <7a3579a5-6546-c328-972a-199139170127@chello.nl>

I do not know where the limit of the percentage of ethanol in petrol is. 
I have used E15 on and off for a long time (>20years) in my cars, 
including my Jensen-Healey without any problems. Theoretically power 
should be down a bit but I never encountered separation, even when the 
car has not been used for more than 6 months, no corrosion in the fuel 
tank, fuel pump or carburettors, no problems with fuel hoses (which I 
replace every 10 years or so anyway and have done so on any car since 
the 1960's).

kees Oudesluijs

Op 6-3-2023 om 07:07 schreef Leonard Hartnett:
>
> Something that owners of aging special interest cars, like our 
> Healeys, may want to take notice of if they haven?t already.This is 
> not a new subject as there was discussion of this here in the West a 
> few years back.
>
> From the Sacramento Bee newspaper, 3/2/2023:?Biden sets in motion fuel 
> policy shift to bolster ethanol.?A push is underway by some governors 
> from corn-producing Midwestern states to increase ethanol content to 
> 15 percent.Will this create the uproar that the increase to 10 % 
> caused years ago? As questioned back then, will this destroy our 
> engines?It turned out that that did not happen.Will the added 5 % be a 
> problem?
>
> Just something to think about as it could affect us sooner or later.
>
> ????????????? The Other Len
> 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
> ??????????????? HBJ8L39031
>
> Still hovering around 220,000 miles
>
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From austin.healey at gmail.com  Mon Mar  6 03:36:05 2023
From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 21:36:05 +1100
Subject: [Healeys] E15% Ethanol Gasoline
In-Reply-To: <7a3579a5-6546-c328-972a-199139170127@chello.nl>
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Mon Mar  6 03:44:44 2023
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 11:44:44 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] E15% Ethanol Gasoline
In-Reply-To: <78742A20-6644-4070-A566-26CEA35ED4E5@gmail.com>
References: <7a3579a5-6546-c328-972a-199139170127@chello.nl>
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Message-ID: <c2f7b035-65e1-c1a8-eb23-964a56dff992@chello.nl>

Chris,

Block, inlet manifold and head are cast alloy. All standard. Twin 
DellOrto's 45DHLA.

Cheers, Kees



Op 6-3-2023 om 11:36 schreef Chris Dimmock:
> Hey Kees
> Does your Jensen Healey have an alloy head, or a cast iron head?
> Best
> Chris
>

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From austin.healey at gmail.com  Mon Mar  6 04:58:16 2023
From: austin.healey at gmail.com (Chris Dimmock)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 22:58:16 +1100
Subject: [Healeys] E15% Ethanol Gasoline
In-Reply-To: <c2f7b035-65e1-c1a8-eb23-964a56dff992@chello.nl>
References: <c2f7b035-65e1-c1a8-eb23-964a56dff992@chello.nl>
Message-ID: <70DC6EE2-24BB-4D37-B3D0-0BCEE4077552@gmail.com>

So about the same relevance as my 6.2 litre LS3 chev powered Holden Commodore ?
So nothing in common with my cast iron Healey 3000 when it comes to leaded fuel and ethanol?
Chalk, cheese and?
FFS. 
Me? 
I wouldn?t run ethanol in either my healey 3000 or my alloy LS3. 


> On 6 Mar 2023, at 9:44 pm, Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl> wrote:
> 
> ?Chris,
> 
> Block, inlet manifold and head are cast alloy. All standard. Twin DellOrto's 45DHLA.
> 
> Cheers, Kees
> 
> 
> 
> Op 6-3-2023 om 11:36 schreef Chris Dimmock:
>> Hey Kees
>> Does your Jensen Healey have an alloy head, or a cast iron head?
>> Best
>> Chris
>> 
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From sbyers at ec.rr.com  Mon Mar  6 05:19:01 2023
From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys)
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2023 07:19:01 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Differential Bearing Numbers
In-Reply-To: <638D2937-1A9B-46FC-A0A0-A328472F8586@gmail.com>
References: <638D2937-1A9B-46FC-A0A0-A328472F8586@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <003901d95025$d69c9ba0$83d5d2e0$@rr.com>

Mitch, if you are looking for the original BMC bearing part numbers, I can
send you a scan of the applicable pages in the BMC Mechanical Service Parts
List (AKD 3523).

Steve Byers
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC  USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mitch
Simmons
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2023 6:34 PM
To: Healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Differential Bearing Numbers

Hello,

Anyone have a list of all the BEARING id numbers used in a BJ8 differential
(carrier,pinion,etc.)?
I want to cross reference to the best modern bearings available.

lmk
Thanks
Mitch
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  7 16:19:05 2023
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 15:19:05 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing
Message-ID: <026101d9514b$36b48ea0$a41dabe0$@gmail.com>

For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you confirm
it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground? 

 

I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don't recall
having to remove the drive shaft - but can't be sure.

 

Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether the
W58 can be flat towed? 

 

I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas to
Los Angeles].

 

For those of you who don't actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I do
know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the shaft
in a way it doesn't let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car, and then
repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.

 

----------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Tue Mar  7 17:41:52 2023
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 19:41:52 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing
In-Reply-To: <026101d9514b$36b48ea0$a41dabe0$@gmail.com>
References: <026101d9514b$36b48ea0$a41dabe0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B6u2zg=NPQ+ak0PZgt7sb4sXC75coq6HG1PH2=N=ocCgQ@mail.gmail.com>

Al--

Here's a link to the site showing my question and the responses:
https://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/
The answer is still a mystery to me, and no opinion seems to be based upon
empiric evidence but rather "generally accepted wisdom".

I have a really cool tow rig that attaches to a set of the usual tow eyes
that bolt to the longitudinal frame members.  I've never towed my Healey
much further than 50-75 miles and the car tracks wonderfully with the
steering following along nicely, though one can only tow in a forward
direction.

I'd love to have a definitive answer!

Best--Michael Oritt

On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 6:22?PM alfuller194--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you confirm
> it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground?
>
>
>
> I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don?t recall
> having to remove the drive shaft ? but can?t be sure?
>
>
>
> Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether
> the W58 can be flat towed?
>
>
>
> I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas to
> Los Angeles].
>
>
>
> For those of you who don?t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I do
> know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the shaft
> in a way it doesn?t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car, and then
> repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.
>
>
>
> ----------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  7 18:20:35 2023
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 17:20:35 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B6u2zg=NPQ+ak0PZgt7sb4sXC75coq6HG1PH2=N=ocCgQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <026101d9514b$36b48ea0$a41dabe0$@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <036e01d9515c$2ff385b0$8fda9110$@gmail.com>

Thanks Michael:

I had seen that post, and did see that there was no answer based on experience!

 

----------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 4:42 PM
To: alfuller194 at gmail.com
Cc: healeys <Healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing

 

Al--

 

Here's a link to the site showing my question and the responses:  https://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/

The answer is still a mystery to me, and no opinion seems to be based upon empiric evidence but rather "generally accepted wisdom".

 

I have a really cool tow rig that attaches to a set of the usual tow eyes that bolt to the longitudinal frame members.  I've never towed my Healey much further than 50-75 miles and the car tracks wonderfully with the steering following along nicely, though one can only tow in a forward direction.

 

I'd love to have a definitive answer!

 

Best--Michael Oritt

 

On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 6:22?PM alfuller194--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you confirm it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground? 

 

I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don?t recall having to remove the drive shaft ? but can?t be sure?

 

Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether the W58 can be flat towed? 

 

I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas to Los Angeles].

 

For those of you who don?t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I do know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the shaft in a way it doesn?t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car, and then repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.

 

----------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  7 19:05:55 2023
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (Ricchardd Mayor)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 18:05:55 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing
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I see no reason why you should have  to disconnect the driveshaft.  The transmission is full of oil and any rotating part in the transmission as it is being towed will splash oil up into the bearings and gears. Everything will stay lubricated. And that is all that matters. I believe it is automatic transmissions that cannot be flat towed with the driveshaft connected. 


Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com


> On Mar 7, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Al--
> 
> Here's a link to the site showing my question and the responses:  https://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/ <https://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/>
> The answer is still a mystery to me, and no opinion seems to be based upon empiric evidence but rather "generally accepted wisdom".
> 
> I have a really cool tow rig that attaches to a set of the usual tow eyes that bolt to the longitudinal frame members.  I've never towed my Healey much further than 50-75 miles and the car tracks wonderfully with the steering following along nicely, though one can only tow in a forward direction.
> 
> I'd love to have a definitive answer!
> 
> Best--Michael Oritt
> 
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 6:22?PM alfuller194--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you confirm it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground? 
> 
>  
> 
> I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don?t recall having to remove the drive shaft ? but can?t be sure?
> 
>  
> 
> Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether the W58 can be flat towed? 
> 
>  
> 
> I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas to Los Angeles].
> 
>  
> 
> For those of you who don?t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I do know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the shaft in a way it doesn?t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car, and then repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.
> 
>  
> 
> ----------------
> 
> All the best,
> 
>  
> 
> Al Fuller
> 
>  
> 
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  7 21:17:08 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 20:17:08 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing
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make sure it is in neutral. Sounds scary to me though. I would rather it be
in an enclosed trailer
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes


1967 MGB  [image: MG]

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words


On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 3:38?PM alfuller194--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you confirm
> it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground?
>
>
>
> I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don?t recall
> having to remove the drive shaft ? but can?t be sure?
>
>
>
> Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether
> the W58 can be flat towed?
>
>
>
> I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas to
> Los Angeles].
>
>
>
> For those of you who don?t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I do
> know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the shaft
> in a way it doesn?t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car, and then
> repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.
>
>
>
> ----------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  7 22:06:23 2023
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 21:06:23 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing
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Thanks Richard, my thoughts too.

________________
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Tue, Mar 7, 2023, 6:06 PM Ricchardd Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I see no reason why you should have  to disconnect the driveshaft.  The
> transmission is full of oil and any rotating part in the transmission as it
> is being towed will splash oil up into the bearings and gears. Everything
> will stay lubricated. And that is all that matters. I believe it is
> automatic transmissions that cannot be flat towed with the driveshaft
> connected.
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
> On Mar 7, 2023, at 4:41 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Al--
>
> Here's a link to the site showing my question and the responses:
> https://www.celicasupra.com/threads/flat-towing-question.120149/
> The answer is still a mystery to me, and no opinion seems to be based upon
> empiric evidence but rather "generally accepted wisdom".
>
> I have a really cool tow rig that attaches to a set of the usual tow eyes
> that bolt to the longitudinal frame members.  I've never towed my Healey
> much further than 50-75 miles and the car tracks wonderfully with the
> steering following along nicely, though one can only tow in a forward
> direction.
>
> I'd love to have a definitive answer!
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 6:22?PM alfuller194--- via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you
>> confirm it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground?
>>
>>
>>
>> I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don?t recall
>> having to remove the drive shaft ? but can?t be sure?
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether
>> the W58 can be flat towed?
>>
>>
>>
>> I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas to
>> Los Angeles].
>>
>>
>>
>> For those of you who don?t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I do
>> know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the shaft
>> in a way it doesn?t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car, and then
>> repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Al Fuller
>>
>>
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  7 22:11:11 2023
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 21:11:11 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing
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Yes, it will be in neutral. I was once present when someone started a tow
with the car in gear - the engine made quite a racquet!

As for scary, not much one can do sometimes... I towed my BT-7 from
California to Detroit years ago on a tow dolly. Last year towed the Rx-7
from Detroit to Las Vegas on an open trailer. No problem on either trip.

________________
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Tue, Mar 7, 2023, 8:17 PM i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> make sure it is in neutral. Sounds scary to me though. I would rather it
> be in an enclosed trailer
> Ira Erbs
> Milwaukie,OR
>       _______                                  _______
>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>          (_________________________)
>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
>
> 1967 MGB  [image: MG]
>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 3:38?PM alfuller194--- via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you
>> confirm it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground?
>>
>>
>>
>> I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don?t recall
>> having to remove the drive shaft ? but can?t be sure?
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether
>> the W58 can be flat towed?
>>
>>
>>
>> I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas to
>> Los Angeles].
>>
>>
>>
>> For those of you who don?t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I do
>> know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the shaft
>> in a way it doesn?t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car, and then
>> repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Al Fuller
>>
>>
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  7 22:22:03 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 21:22:03 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing
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Cheers. I have towed cars in frightening ways, back in the day

Ira Erbs

On Tue, Mar 7, 2023, 9:11 PM Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, it will be in neutral. I was once present when someone started a tow
> with the car in gear - the engine made quite a racquet!
>
> As for scary, not much one can do sometimes... I towed my BT-7 from
> California to Detroit years ago on a tow dolly. Last year towed the Rx-7
> from Detroit to Las Vegas on an open trailer. No problem on either trip.
>
> ________________
> Best Regards,
> Al Fuller
>
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2023, 8:17 PM i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> make sure it is in neutral. Sounds scary to me though. I would rather it
>> be in an enclosed trailer
>> Ira Erbs
>> Milwaukie,OR
>>       _______                                  _______
>>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>>          (_________________________)
>>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
>>
>>
>> 1967 MGB  [image: MG]
>>
>> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 3:38?PM alfuller194--- via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you
>>> confirm it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don?t
>>> recall having to remove the drive shaft ? but can?t be sure?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to whether
>>> the W58 can be flat towed?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas
>>> to Los Angeles].
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For those of you who don?t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I
>>> do know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure the
>>> shaft in a way it doesn?t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the car, and
>>> then repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Al Fuller
>>>
>>>
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From thehartnetts at earthlink.net  Tue Mar  7 23:06:53 2023
From: thehartnetts at earthlink.net (Leonard  Hartnett)
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2023 22:06:53 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing
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Al:  From experience:  I have towed my BJ8 on several long trips to Healey meets.  Disconnecting the drive shaft was recommended.  I never did.  I did add a oil to the transmission to assure that it was full to the line on the dip stick or a little over.  II you are towing with the top down and a tonneau cover installed, do not cover the steering wheel with the tonneau.  It will prevent the steerng wheel and wheels from turning when going around corners.

              The Other Len
1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Wed Mar  8 03:21:17 2023
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 11:21:17 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing
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There is no problem at all towing a car with a manual gearbox. No need 
to remove the drive shaft. So you will be fine with the Toyota box.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 8-3-2023 om 00:19 schreef alfuller194--- via Healeys:
>
> For those of you who have converted to the Toyota 5-speed: can you 
> confirm it is OK to tow the car with the rear wheels on the ground?
>
> I towed a prior Healey with a Toyota W58 across country, and don?t 
> recall having to remove the drive shaft ? but can?t be sure?
>
> Michael Oritt- Did you ever get an answer on the Celica forum to 
> whether the W58 can be flat towed?
>
> I need to tow my Austin-Healey with W58 for about 300 miles [Las Vegas 
> to Los Angeles].
>
> For those of you who don?t actually know and want to speculate: Yes, I 
> do know I could jack up the car, disconnect the drive shaft, secure 
> the shaft in a way it doesn?t let the fluid leak out nor fall off the 
> car, and then repeat in the business lot where I am delivering the car.
>
> ----------------
>
> All the best,
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  8 07:23:06 2023
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 06:23:06 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] 5-Speed towing
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Len- good to know your 5-speed had no issues. I'll keep the tonneau cover
off the steering wheel.

________________
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Tue, Mar 7, 2023, 11:06 PM Leonard Hartnett <thehartnetts at earthlink.net>
wrote:

>
> Al:  From experience:  I have towed my BJ8 on several long trips to Healey
> meets.  Disconnecting the drive shaft was recommended.  I never did.  I did
> add a oil to the transmission to assure that it was full to the line on the
> dip stick or a little over.  II you are towing with the top down and a
> tonneau cover installed, do not cover the steering wheel with the tonneau.
> It will prevent the steerng wheel and wheels from turning when going around
> corners.
>
>               The Other Len
> 1967 Austin-Healey 3000 MkIII BJ8
>                 HBJ8L39031
>
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Wed Mar  8 09:34:25 2023
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 11:34:25 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Pilot bearing adapter for Smitty's setup
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B632jkJWKF+WQrw_cEKA_rOtVa8r60OyJ0wd0iLNxEcsA@mail.gmail.com>

I pulled my transmission last fall to replace the clutch but cold weather
prevented me from finishing the job.  I'm about to start the install and in
looking through my parts I cannot now find the pilot bearing adapter.  Does
anyone know where I can obtain a replacement?

Best--Michael Oritt
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  8 10:13:56 2023
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 09:13:56 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Pilot bearing adapter for Smitty's setup
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B632jkJWKF+WQrw_cEKA_rOtVa8r60OyJ0wd0iLNxEcsA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTa0B632jkJWKF+WQrw_cEKA_rOtVa8r60OyJ0wd0iLNxEcsA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3FE6AE53-4D94-438B-B43B-0400AAD47490@gmail.com>

I think your best bet is Pete Delaney.  He sells the adaptor with the bearing already pressed in.  I bought one from him last year and if I recall correctly it was $70.  There?s no way you could have one machined for $70 let alone include the price of the bearing. 


Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



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> 
> I pulled my transmission last fall to replace the clutch but cold weather prevented me from finishing the job.  I'm about to start the install and in looking through my parts I cannot now find the pilot bearing adapter.  Does anyone know where I can obtain a replacement?
> 
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From lester.home at comcast.net  Sat Mar 11 19:12:15 2023
From: lester.home at comcast.net (Richard Lester)
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 18:12:15 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 Two light front shroud wanted
Message-ID: <51F13177-6928-4285-AC28-91F03F9E3531@comcast.net>

Am needing a two light front shroud for a 1966 Healey 3000 BJ8 Ph2 I am restoring. If anyone knows of one please let me know. I would be prepared to pick it up in person depending on where it?s located. Email me directly with any information lester.home at comcast.net

Thanks,

Richard

From manifold at telus.net  Mon Mar 13 09:39:10 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 08:39:10 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCB7C6wugW-y8R2n4uhZWHWSdiSvCuOwjH4HwxSm3boAKg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am having a problem with leaky banjo fittings on my HD6 carburetors. The
leaks are at the banjo washers. The washers are new and all surfaces are
clean and smooth.

I would appreciate any suggestions on how to solve the leaks. Should the
washers be soaked in anything first? Is there a recommended sealant? Is
there a maximum torque for the banjo bolts?

Thanks.... Harold
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Mon Mar 13 10:12:30 2023
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 09:12:30 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCB7C6wugW-y8R2n4uhZWHWSdiSvCuOwjH4HwxSm3boAKg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFP1XCB7C6wugW-y8R2n4uhZWHWSdiSvCuOwjH4HwxSm3boAKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <60a17126-eae5-6c0f-a7a5-f98b8293a34b@comcast.net>

Are the washers brown or black? I believe the brown ones are the 
original type and the black ones are being proffered by some suppliers 
and may be slightly undersized. I usually, if I think of it, soak them 
in WD-40 for an hour or so before installing, and re-torque them after a 
day or so because they do take a set. I torque them 'elbow-tight*' with 
a 13/16" half-inch socket and wrench (fits the bolt head well). It would 
be difficult, but not impossible to strip the threads on a banjo fitting 
as they're coarse (you'd likely strip the carb or pump threads, not the 
bolt).

* Torque settings : finger-tight, wrist-tight, elbow-tight, 
shoulder-tight and all-you-got tight.

Bob


On 3/13/2023 8:39 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am having a problem with leaky banjo fittings?on my HD6 carburetors. 
> The leaks are at the banjo washers. The washers are new and all 
> surfaces are clean and smooth.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on how to solve the leaks. Should 
> the washers be soaked in anything first? Is there a recommended 
> sealant? Is there a maximum torque?for the banjo bolts?
>
> Thanks.... Harold
>


From 050.rpl at gmail.com  Mon Mar 13 10:35:27 2023
From: 050.rpl at gmail.com (R. Lindsay)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 12:35:27 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCB7C6wugW-y8R2n4uhZWHWSdiSvCuOwjH4HwxSm3boAKg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFP1XCB7C6wugW-y8R2n4uhZWHWSdiSvCuOwjH4HwxSm3boAKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57E2A860-1E4D-49C0-AB39-61F45424A036@gmail.com>

I?m not sure on HD6 carbs but one side of the banjo may have a relief area to accept a washer. You must have the washer inside this relief. 

Price Lindsay

Cell: 630-841-6300
Email: 050.rpl at gmail.com

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 13, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hello,
> 
> I am having a problem with leaky banjo fittings on my HD6 carburetors. The leaks are at the banjo washers. The washers are new and all surfaces are clean and smooth.
> 
> I would appreciate any suggestions on how to solve the leaks. Should the washers be soaked in anything first? Is there a recommended sealant? Is there a maximum torque for the banjo bolts?
> 
> Thanks.... Harold
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From rct2bnc at aol.com  Mon Mar 13 10:37:19 2023
From: rct2bnc at aol.com (rct2bnc at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 16:37:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs
In-Reply-To: <60a17126-eae5-6c0f-a7a5-f98b8293a34b@comcast.net>
References: <CAFP1XCB7C6wugW-y8R2n4uhZWHWSdiSvCuOwjH4HwxSm3boAKg@mail.gmail.com>
 <60a17126-eae5-6c0f-a7a5-f98b8293a34b@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <852045123.3218061.1678725439722@mail.yahoo.com>

Bob,
I think that SU fittings are Whitworth size wrench sizes...not 13/16". And you can strip out the threads in the cast fuel bowl lids.
Ben CohenBN1, BN7, BJ8


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, Mar 13, 2023 9:12 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs

Are the washers brown or black? I believe the brown ones are the 
original type and the black ones are being proffered by some suppliers 
and may be slightly undersized. I usually, if I think of it, soak them 
in WD-40 for an hour or so before installing, and re-torque them after a 
day or so because they do take a set. I torque them 'elbow-tight*' with 
a 13/16" half-inch socket and wrench (fits the bolt head well). It would 
be difficult, but not impossible to strip the threads on a banjo fitting 
as they're coarse (you'd likely strip the carb or pump threads, not the 
bolt).

* Torque settings : finger-tight, wrist-tight, elbow-tight, 
shoulder-tight and all-you-got tight.

Bob


On 3/13/2023 8:39 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am having a problem with leaky banjo fittings?on my HD6 carburetors. 
> The leaks are at the banjo washers. The washers are new and all 
> surfaces are clean and smooth.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on how to solve the leaks. Should 
> the washers be soaked in anything first? Is there a recommended 
> sealant? Is there a maximum torque?for the banjo bolts?
>
> Thanks.... Harold
>

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From bspidell at comcast.net  Mon Mar 13 10:58:13 2023
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 09:58:13 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs
In-Reply-To: <852045123.3218061.1678725439722@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAFP1XCB7C6wugW-y8R2n4uhZWHWSdiSvCuOwjH4HwxSm3boAKg@mail.gmail.com>
 <60a17126-eae5-6c0f-a7a5-f98b8293a34b@comcast.net>
 <852045123.3218061.1678725439722@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1efcc087-3bfe-3b0b-780d-b27e1f116fd2@comcast.net>

Sure, but 13/16" fits well.


On 3/13/2023 9:37 AM, rct2bnc at aol.com wrote:
> Bob,
>
> I think that SU fittings are Whitworth size wrench sizes...not 13/16". 
> And you can strip out the threads in the cast fuel bowl lids.
>
> Ben Cohen
> BN1, BN7, BJ8
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
> To: healeys at autox.team.net
> Sent: Mon, Mar 13, 2023 9:12 am
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs
>
> Are the washers brown or black? I believe the brown ones are the
> original type and the black ones are being proffered by some suppliers
> and may be slightly undersized. I usually, if I think of it, soak them
> in WD-40 for an hour or so before installing, and re-torque them after a
> day or so because they do take a set. I torque them 'elbow-tight*' with
> a 13/16" half-inch socket and wrench (fits the bolt head well). It would
> be difficult, but not impossible to strip the threads on a banjo fitting
> as they're coarse (you'd likely strip the carb or pump threads, not the
> bolt).
>
> * Torque settings : finger-tight, wrist-tight, elbow-tight,
> shoulder-tight and all-you-got tight.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 3/13/2023 8:39 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am having a problem with leaky banjo fittings?on my HD6 carburetors.
> > The leaks are at the banjo washers. The washers are new and all
> > surfaces are clean and smooth.
> >
> > I would appreciate any suggestions on how to solve the leaks. Should
> > the washers be soaked in anything first? Is there a recommended
> > sealant? Is there a maximum torque?for the banjo bolts?
> >
> > Thanks.... Harold
> >
>
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From warthodson at aol.com  Mon Mar 13 12:26:16 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 18:26:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes
References: <784502200.73608.1678731976687.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <784502200.73608.1678731976687@mail.yahoo.com>

We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Mon Mar 13 12:56:11 2023
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 18:56:11 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs
Message-ID: <2c22a4468c6898af8dae1ef44213bfe631ba12c8@webmail>

I dont think its the wrench, as both fit. It is more about the type of
fiber washer and the proper placement of it. If you "wiggle" the
fitting as you insert it by hand it will help to not strip out the
casting (which is the scrafical item). If it does not start in
smoothly, STOP and redo it again by hand. Carb bodies are expensive.
Yes, WD-40 or even a bit of red grease will help the mating of the two
threaded parts. "Genuine" SU parts are the best to use if you can find
them. Hank

	-----------------------------------------From: "Bob Spidell" 
To: "healeys at autox.team.net"
Cc: 
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 11:01:57AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs

 Sure, but 13/16" fits well.

On 3/13/2023 9:37 AM, rct2bnc at aol.com wrote:
  Bob, 
 I think that SU fittings are Whitworth size wrench sizes..not
13/16". And you can strip out the threads in the cast fuel bowl lids. 
 Ben Cohen BN1, BN7, BJ8 

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Bob Spidell 
 To: healeys at autox.team.net
 Sent: Mon, Mar 13, 2023 9:12 am
 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs

 Are the washers brown or black? I believe the brown ones are the
 original type and the black ones are being proffered by some
suppliers
 and may be slightly undersized. I usually, if I think of it, soak
them
 in WD-40 for an hour or so before installing, and re-torque them
after a
 day or so because they do take a set. I torque them 'elbow-tight*'
with
 a 13/16" half-inch socket and wrench (fits the bolt head well). It
would
 be difficult, but not impossible to strip the threads on a banjo
fitting
 as they're coarse (you'd likely strip the carb or pump threads, not
the
 bolt).

 * Torque settings : finger-tight, wrist-tight, elbow-tight,
 shoulder-tight and all-you-got tight.

 Bob

 On 3/13/2023 8:39 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
 > Hello,
 >
 > I am having a problem with leaky banjo fittings on my HD6
carburetors.
 > The leaks are at the banjo washers. The washers are new and all
 > surfaces are clean and smooth.
 >
 > I would appreciate any suggestions on how to solve the leaks.
Should
 > the washers be soaked in anything first? Is there a recommended
 > sealant? Is there a maximum torque for the banjo bolts?
 >
 > Thanks.... Harold
 >

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From gradea1 at charter.net  Mon Mar 13 13:40:23 2023
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2023 19:40:23 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes
Message-ID: <c729889cae7a324faebaa0659d73a4d0ef350833@webmail>

It sure sounds like air. The 100 system is difficult to bleed due to
the placement of the wheel cylinders and bleeders. I like to pull out
the fluid rather than push out the stuff. Use something like a Mityvac
to do this starting at the right rear. 
The smallest bubbles will create a lot of pedal travel but if it pumps
up to a hard pedal then its for sure air in the system. Keep the cap
on the canister when bleeding and check under the canister for a wet
finger. Moss has good seals for that purpose.
The word "new" in brake systems scares me, as there are so many crappy
replacement parts made in foreign countries that look like good new
items. I prefer to rebuilt original or sleeve them if necessary to use
the original items. The seal kits are another story. Can you find good
Girling repair kits. Many of the foreign replacements are knockoffs of
the original. Use TRW (they bought Lockheed) only-not unknown
brands...even new Lucas is not old Lucas.
I pumped and pulled gallons of brake fluid thru a MKI bugeye system
only to find the seal stuck in the back of the master cylinder because
the Moss purchased seals were too big! Use TRW. When I got the
replacement seals from them, they had the same number stamp on the
seal. They are using the same molds to make the seals.
Did you use red grease on all the threaded fittings? Check all for a
wet finger. Hope this info lessens your frustration. A word that goes
hand in hand with brake bleeding. Hank

	-----------------------------------------From: "warthodson--- via
Healeys" 
To: "healeys at autox.team.net"
Cc: 
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 12:07:18PM
Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes

 We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes
on a friend's BN1. The car has recently under a full ground up
restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new,
seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc. We
bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track. 
We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to
return to the full "off" position. When we adjust the operating rod to
achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal. We have
adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest. Our issue
is: Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be
effective.  Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel
issue, which we think indicates air still in the system. We are not
having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no
locking up of the brakes.  Gary
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Mon Mar 13 13:43:10 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 08:43:10 +1300
Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes
In-Reply-To: <784502200.73608.1678731976687@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <784502200.73608.1678731976687.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <784502200.73608.1678731976687@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LLb4wEdpF2CPa8Wf0UH02xEnuts_yqJZfBp1VXBQF_iig@mail.gmail.com>

This article may help.
https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a
> friend's BN1.
> The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like
> brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are
> new, the master cyl. is new, etc.
> We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.
> We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to
> return to the full "off" position.
> When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free
> movement at the pedal.
> We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.
> Our issue is:
> Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.
> Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we
> think indicates air still in the system.
> We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly,
> IE: no locking up of the brakes.
> Gary
>
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From greylinn at ozemail.com.au  Mon Mar 13 16:29:52 2023
From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au (greylinn at ozemail.com.au)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 08:29:52 +1000
Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes
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Michael assuming you have some resistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard and leave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly & you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve done this several times with my own and other people?s cars, and it works!

Cheers

 

Peter

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2023 5:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

 

This article may help.

https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

 

On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1. 

The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.

We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track. 

We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.

When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.

We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.

Our issue is:

Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective. 

Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.

We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes. 

Gary

      

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From gradea1 at charter.net  Mon Mar 13 18:15:49 2023
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 00:15:49 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes
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Peter-yea, what I think happens there, providing there are no leaks
anywhere else, is that under pressure, overnight, the system "pushes"
the air bubble to the only place that it can get out-the vent hole in
the canister!
I have used this method also for "final bleeding"...could be a line
item on an invoice to look official and garner more dough, Ha. Hank

	-----------------------------------------From: "greylinn--- via
Healeys" 
To: "Michael Salter"
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 4:02:50PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

	Michael assuming you have some resistance after pumping the pedal,
jam the pedal down hard and leave it at least overnight, preferably
longer. Do this repeatedly & you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t
ask me why, but I?ve done this several times with my own and other
people?s cars, and it works!

 Cheers 

	Peter 

	FROM: Healeys  ON BEHALF OF Michael Salter via Healeys
SENT: Tuesday, 14 March 2023 5:43 AM
TO: warthodson at aol.com
CC: healeys at autox.team.net
SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes  

	This article may help.  

	 
[1]https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/
[2]   

	On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys,  wrote: 
  

	We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes
on a friend's BN1.  

	The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things
like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake
cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.   

	We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost
track.    

	We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to
return to the full "off" position.   

	When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free
movement at the pedal.   

	We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest. 
 

	Our issue is:   

	Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.
   

	Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which
we think indicates air still in the system.   

	We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning
correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.    

	Gary   

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From warthodson at aol.com  Tue Mar 14 06:49:31 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 12:49:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes
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One more related question.? The attached illustrates exactly how our pedal assembly & master cylinder are installed. In order to get the specified 1/8" free play at the pedal pad, the lever with the arrow pointing at it is against the foot board. Is that normal/correct??Gary H

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From: greylinn at ozemail.com.au
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes ?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/ ?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1. The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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From warthodson at aol.com  Tue Mar 14 11:35:48 2023
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Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes
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The bubble will perhaps migrate to the highest point & if that is the reservoir then it might escape, but this only applies if the path is always up. Then bubble will never migrate on its own down. Also, the system is not pushing on the bubble in any single direction. If the system is under pressure, the is uniform throughout the entire system. Essentially, the bubble, being lighter than the fluid, trying to float. Bleeding the system is different, there is flow of the fluid to help move the bubble.Gary

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From: Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net>
To: 'greylinn at ozemail.com.au' <greylinn at ozemail.com.au>
Cc: 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter at gmail.com>; 'warthodson at aol.com' <warthodson at aol.com>; 'healeys at autox.team.net' <healeys at autox.team.net>
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Peter-yea, what I think happens there, providing there are no leaks anywhere else, is that under pressure, overnight, the system "pushes" the air bubble to the only place that it can get out-the vent hole in the canister!
I have used this method also for "final bleeding"...could be a line item on an invoice to look official and garner more dough, Ha.? Hank

-----------------------------------------From: "greylinn--- via Healeys" 
To: "Michael Salter"
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 4:02:50PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Michael assuming you have someresistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard andleave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly& you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve donethis several times with my own and other people?s cars, and itworks!

Cheers?Peter?From:Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2023 5:43 AM
To: warthodson at aol.com
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m.warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net>wrote:
We arehaving a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on afriend's BN1.The carhas recently under a full ground up restoration so things likebrake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brakecylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleedthe system so many times different way that I have losttrack.?We haveadjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to returnto the full "off" position.When weadjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" freemovement at the pedal.We haveadjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Ourissue is:Excessivebrake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumpingthe brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which wethink indicates air still in the system.We arenot having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly,IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary?? ??

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From allan-peters at sky.com  Tue Mar 14 13:01:41 2023
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Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 16, Issue 53
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 Hi,? ? ? ? ? ?I too had problems bleeding bn1? Brake system.? It is most important that Handbrake is completely? isolated,
So would reccommend? disconnnecting? rear linkage at? drum !!? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Good Luck !!,? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Allan
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? 2. Re: Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs (Hank Leach)
? 3. Re: 100 brakes (Hank Leach)
? 4. Re: 100 brakes (Michael Salter)
? 5. Re: 100 brakes (greylinn at ozemail.com.au)
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We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??I dont think its the wrench, as both fit.? It is more about the type of fiber washer and the proper placement of it. If you "wiggle" the fitting as you insert it by hand it will help to not strip out the casting (which is the scrafical item).? If it does not start in smoothly, STOP and redo it again by hand.? Carb bodies are expensive. Yes, WD-40 or even a bit of red grease will help the mating of the two threaded parts. "Genuine" SU parts are the best to use if you can find them. Hank


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From: "Bob Spidell" 
To: "healeys at autox.team.net"
Cc: 
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 11:01:57AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs

Sure, but 13/16" fits well.


On 3/13/2023 9:37 AM, rct2bnc at aol.com wrote:

Bob,
I think that SU fittings are Whitworth size wrench sizes...not13/16". And you can strip out the threads in the cast fuel bowllids.
Ben CohenBN1, BN7, BJ8


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Sent: Mon, Mar 13, 2023 9:12 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs

Are the washers brown or black? Ibelieve the brown ones are the
original type and the black ones are being proffered by somesuppliers
and may be slightly undersized. I usually, if I think of it, soakthem
in WD-40 for an hour or so before installing, and re-torque themafter a
day or so because they do take a set. I torque them 'elbow-tight*'with
a 13/16" half-inch socket and wrench (fits the bolt head well). Itwould
be difficult, but not impossible to strip the threads on a banjofitting
as they're coarse (you'd likely strip the carb or pump threads, notthe
bolt).

* Torque settings : finger-tight, wrist-tight,elbow-tight,
shoulder-tight and all-you-got tight.

Bob


On 3/13/2023 8:39 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am having a problem with leaky banjo fittings?on my HD6carburetors.
> The leaks are at the banjo washers. The washers are new andall
> surfaces are clean and smooth.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on how to solve the leaks.Should
> the washers be soaked in anything first? Is there arecommended
> sealant? Is there a maximum torque?for the banjobolts?
>
> Thanks.... Harold
>

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 It sure sounds like air. The 100 system is difficult to bleed due to the placement of the wheel cylinders and bleeders. I like to pull out the fluid rather than push out the stuff. Use something like a Mityvac to do this starting at the right rear.?
The smallest bubbles will create a lot of pedal travel but if it pumps up to a hard pedal then its for sure air in the system. Keep the cap on the canister when bleeding and check under the canister for a wet finger.? Moss has good seals for that purpose.
The word "new" in brake systems scares me, as there are so many crappy replacement parts made in foreign countries that look like good new items. I prefer to rebuilt original or sleeve them if necessary to use the original items. The seal kits are another story. Can you find good Girling repair kits. Many of the foreign replacements are knockoffs of the original. Use TRW (they bought Lockheed) only-not unknown brands...even new Lucas is not old Lucas.
I pumped and pulled gallons of brake fluid thru a MKI bugeye system only to find the seal stuck in the back of the master cylinder because the Moss purchased seals were too big! Use TRW. When I got the replacement seals from them, they had the same number stamp on the seal. They are using the same molds to make the seals.
Did you use red grease on all the threaded fittings? Check all for a wet finger. Hope this info lessens your frustration. A word that goes hand in hand with brake bleeding. Hank


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Sent: Monday March 13 2023 12:07:18PM
Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Weare having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes ona friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration sothings like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in thebrake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I havelost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger isable to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8"free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue,which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port isfunctioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ?? This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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Michael assuming you have some resistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard and leave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly & you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve done this several times with my own and other people?s cars, and it works!

Cheers

 ?

Peter

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2023 5:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

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This article may help.

https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

 ?

On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:


We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1. 

The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.

We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?

We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.

When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.

We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.

Our issue is:

Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?

Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.

We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?

Gary

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Peter-yea, what I think happens there, providing there are no leaks anywhere else, is that under pressure, overnight, the system "pushes" the air bubble to the only place that it can get out-the vent hole in the canister!
I have used this method also for "final bleeding"...could be a line item on an invoice to look official and garner more dough, Ha.? Hank


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From: "greylinn--- via Healeys" 
To: "Michael Salter"
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 4:02:50PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes


Michael assuming you have someresistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard andleave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly& you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve donethis several times with my own and other people?s cars, and itworks!

Cheers

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Peter

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Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2023 5:43 AM
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Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

?

This article may help.

https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

?

On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m.warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net>wrote:


We arehaving a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on afriend's BN1.

The carhas recently under a full ground up restoration so things likebrake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brakecylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.

We bleedthe system so many times different way that I have losttrack.?

We haveadjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to returnto the full "off" position.

When weadjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" freemovement at the pedal.

We haveadjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.

Ourissue is:

Excessivebrake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?

Pumpingthe brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which wethink indicates air still in the system.

We arenot having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly,IE: no locking up of the brakes.?

Gary

?? ??

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 One more related question.? The attached illustrates exactly how our pedal assembly & master cylinder are installed. In order to get the specified 1/8" free play at the pedal pad, the lever with the arrow pointing at it is against the foot board. Is that normal/correct??Gary H

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Michael assuming you have some resistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard and leave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly & you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve done this several times with my own and other people?s cars, and it works!

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes ?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/ ?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1. The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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The bubble will perhaps migrate to the highest point & if that is the reservoir then it might escape, but this only applies if the path is always up. Then bubble will never migrate on its own down. Also, the system is not pushing on the bubble in any single direction. If the system is under pressure, the is uniform throughout the entire system. Essentially, the bubble, being lighter than the fluid, trying to float. Bleeding the system is different, there is flow of the fluid to help move the bubble.Gary

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Peter-yea, what I think happens there, providing there are no leaks anywhere else, is that under pressure, overnight, the system "pushes" the air bubble to the only place that it can get out-the vent hole in the canister!
I have used this method also for "final bleeding"...could be a line item on an invoice to look official and garner more dough, Ha.? Hank

-----------------------------------------From: "greylinn--- via Healeys" 
To: "Michael Salter"
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 4:02:50PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Michael assuming you have someresistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard andleave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly& you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve donethis several times with my own and other people?s cars, and itworks!

Cheers?Peter?From:Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m.warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net>wrote:
We arehaving a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on afriend's BN1.The carhas recently under a full ground up restoration so things likebrake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brakecylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleedthe system so many times different way that I have losttrack.?We haveadjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to returnto the full "off" position.When weadjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" freemovement at the pedal.We haveadjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Ourissue is:Excessivebrake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumpingthe brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which wethink indicates air still in the system.We arenot having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly,IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary?? ??

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From lester.home at comcast.net  Tue Mar 14 16:17:52 2023
From: lester.home at comcast.net (Richard Lester)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 15:17:52 -0700
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From manifold at telus.net  Tue Mar 14 16:53:04 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 15:53:04 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud
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Richard,

Have you tried Healey Lane? They have not done work for me but I have seen
cars they have restored to a high standard.

Harold

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> I live in the Portland area
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From neilandcustom at gmail.com  Tue Mar 14 17:03:55 2023
From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 18:03:55 -0500
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Try Robert Wilson at Healey Lane Restoration, Marcola, OR

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From cfrazer at uoregon.edu  Tue Mar 14 17:59:50 2023
From: cfrazer at uoregon.edu (Charles Frazer)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 23:59:50 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud
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Look into Vintageunderground.com<http://Vintageunderground.com>
630 Garfield Street
Eugene, OR 97402

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As a follow up to my earlier email looking for a front shroud. I may have found one but it needs a little work. Does anyone have recommendations for someone with experience repairing these aluminum shrouds (shaping and fabricating). Aluminium requires a different skill set from that for steel. I live in the Portland area

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From bspidell at comcast.net  Tue Mar 14 18:17:50 2023
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 17:17:50 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud
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Since you're in Portland, I'll say give Tom Monaco a call. He'll help 
you if he can.

https://tomsimport.com/


On 3/14/2023 3:53 PM, Harold Manifold wrote:
> Richard,
>
> Have you tried?Healey Lane? They have not done work for me but I have 
> seen cars they have restored?to a high standard.
>
> Harold
>
> On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 3:39?PM Richard Lester 
> <lester.home at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>     As a follow up to my earlier email looking for a front shroud. I
>     may have found one but it needs a little work. Does anyone have
>     recommendations for someone with experience repairing these
>     aluminum shrouds (shaping and fabricating). Aluminium requires a
>     different skill set from that for steel. I live in the Portland area
>
>     Richard Lester
>
>     m: 503-706-3693 <tel:503-706-3693>
>
>     lester.home at comcast.net
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Tue Mar 14 19:25:42 2023
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 21:25:42 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud
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Richard,  If you find someone in the US then great, but you are not far from
the Canadian border and there is an outstanding panel-former and welder with
A LOT of experience with Healeys in the Vancouver area.  His name is Colin
Bailey.  Colin worked for years with Rich Chrysler, which many listers will
remember as being as a fastidious and extremely knowledgeable Healey
restorer.  Colin moved to Vancouver some 10 years ago and I'd have to track
him down for you, but I have wanted to touch base with him again anyhow, so
I am happy to do that.  I'll attach a photo of Colin welding a new flange on
the rear shroud of my BT7.

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

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Sent: March 14, 2023 8:00 PM
To: Richard Lester <lester.home at comcast.net>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud

 

Look into Vintageunderground.com <http://Vintageunderground.com>  

630 Garfield Street

Eugene, OR 97402 

 

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fabricating). Aluminium requires a different skill set from that for steel.
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Tue Mar 14 19:46:55 2023
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 01:46:55 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] FW: Re:  Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud
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	Richard and all-Robert uses a great body shop in Eugene called
Precision Classics- they did my 100 and many, many Healeys for John
Wilson. Wonderful craftsmen with modern day skills. I highly recommend
their work. It's worth the trip to Eugene to have them finish your
car. Hank

	----------------------------------------- From: "Neil Anderson"
 To: "Richard Lester"
 Cc: "Austin Healey"
 Sent: Tuesday March 14 2023 5:28:56PM
 Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud

Try Robert Wilson at Healey Lane Restoration, Marcola, OR 
 Neil Anderson   
 On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 5:40 PM Richard Lester  wrote:
  As a follow up to my earlier email looking for a front shroud. I may
have found one but it needs a little work. Does anyone have
recommendations for someone with experience repairing these aluminum
shrouds (shaping and fabricating). Aluminium requires a different
skill set from that for steel. I live in the Portland area

	 Richard Lester   

	  m: 503-706-3693   

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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 18:49:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 16, Issue 54
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Gary,? ? ? ? ? Have you bled the master cylinder separately?
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? 1. Re: Healeys Digest, Vol 16, Issue 53 (Allan Peters)
? 2. Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud (Richard Lester)
? 3. Re: Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud (Harold Manifold)
? 4. Re: Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud (Neil Anderson)
? 5. Re: Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud (Charles Frazer)
? 6. Re: Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud (Bob Spidell)
? 7. Re: Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud
? ? ? (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
? 8. FW: Re:? Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud (Hank Leach)
 Hi,? ? ? ? ? ?I too had problems bleeding bn1? Brake system.? It is most important that Handbrake is completely? isolated,
So would reccommend? disconnnecting? rear linkage at? drum !!? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Good Luck !!,? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Allan
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? 2. Re: Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs (Hank Leach)
? 3. Re: 100 brakes (Hank Leach)
? 4. Re: 100 brakes (Michael Salter)
? 5. Re: 100 brakes (greylinn at ozemail.com.au)
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We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??I dont think its the wrench, as both fit.? It is more about the type of fiber washer and the proper placement of it. If you "wiggle" the fitting as you insert it by hand it will help to not strip out the casting (which is the scrafical item).? If it does not start in smoothly, STOP and redo it again by hand.? Carb bodies are expensive. Yes, WD-40 or even a bit of red grease will help the mating of the two threaded parts. "Genuine" SU parts are the best to use if you can find them. Hank


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From: "Bob Spidell" 
To: "healeys at autox.team.net"
Cc: 
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 11:01:57AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs

Sure, but 13/16" fits well.


On 3/13/2023 9:37 AM, rct2bnc at aol.com wrote:

Bob,
I think that SU fittings are Whitworth size wrench sizes...not13/16". And you can strip out the threads in the cast fuel bowllids.
Ben CohenBN1, BN7, BJ8


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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs

Are the washers brown or black? Ibelieve the brown ones are the
original type and the black ones are being proffered by somesuppliers
and may be slightly undersized. I usually, if I think of it, soakthem
in WD-40 for an hour or so before installing, and re-torque themafter a
day or so because they do take a set. I torque them 'elbow-tight*'with
a 13/16" half-inch socket and wrench (fits the bolt head well). Itwould
be difficult, but not impossible to strip the threads on a banjofitting
as they're coarse (you'd likely strip the carb or pump threads, notthe
bolt).

* Torque settings : finger-tight, wrist-tight,elbow-tight,
shoulder-tight and all-you-got tight.

Bob


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> Hello,
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> I am having a problem with leaky banjo fittings?on my HD6carburetors.
> The leaks are at the banjo washers. The washers are new andall
> surfaces are clean and smooth.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on how to solve the leaks.Should
> the washers be soaked in anything first? Is there arecommended
> sealant? Is there a maximum torque?for the banjobolts?
>
> Thanks.... Harold
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 It sure sounds like air. The 100 system is difficult to bleed due to the placement of the wheel cylinders and bleeders. I like to pull out the fluid rather than push out the stuff. Use something like a Mityvac to do this starting at the right rear.?
The smallest bubbles will create a lot of pedal travel but if it pumps up to a hard pedal then its for sure air in the system. Keep the cap on the canister when bleeding and check under the canister for a wet finger.? Moss has good seals for that purpose.
The word "new" in brake systems scares me, as there are so many crappy replacement parts made in foreign countries that look like good new items. I prefer to rebuilt original or sleeve them if necessary to use the original items. The seal kits are another story. Can you find good Girling repair kits. Many of the foreign replacements are knockoffs of the original. Use TRW (they bought Lockheed) only-not unknown brands...even new Lucas is not old Lucas.
I pumped and pulled gallons of brake fluid thru a MKI bugeye system only to find the seal stuck in the back of the master cylinder because the Moss purchased seals were too big! Use TRW. When I got the replacement seals from them, they had the same number stamp on the seal. They are using the same molds to make the seals.
Did you use red grease on all the threaded fittings? Check all for a wet finger. Hope this info lessens your frustration. A word that goes hand in hand with brake bleeding. Hank


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From: "warthodson--- via Healeys" 
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Sent: Monday March 13 2023 12:07:18PM
Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Weare having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes ona friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration sothings like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in thebrake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I havelost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger isable to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8"free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue,which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port isfunctioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ?? This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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Michael assuming you have some resistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard and leave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly & you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve done this several times with my own and other people?s cars, and it works!

Cheers

 ?

Peter

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2023 5:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

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This article may help.

https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

 ?

On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:


We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1. 

The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.

We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?

We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.

When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.

We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.

Our issue is:

Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?

Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.

We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?

Gary

? ? ??

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Peter-yea, what I think happens there, providing there are no leaks anywhere else, is that under pressure, overnight, the system "pushes" the air bubble to the only place that it can get out-the vent hole in the canister!
I have used this method also for "final bleeding"...could be a line item on an invoice to look official and garner more dough, Ha.? Hank


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From: "greylinn--- via Healeys" 
To: "Michael Salter"
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 4:02:50PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes


Michael assuming you have someresistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard andleave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly& you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve donethis several times with my own and other people?s cars, and itworks!

Cheers

?

Peter

?

From:Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2023 5:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

?

This article may help.

https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

?

On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m.warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net>wrote:


We arehaving a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on afriend's BN1.

The carhas recently under a full ground up restoration so things likebrake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brakecylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.

We bleedthe system so many times different way that I have losttrack.?

We haveadjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to returnto the full "off" position.

When weadjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" freemovement at the pedal.

We haveadjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.

Ourissue is:

Excessivebrake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?

Pumpingthe brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which wethink indicates air still in the system.

We arenot having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly,IE: no locking up of the brakes.?

Gary

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 One more related question.? The attached illustrates exactly how our pedal assembly & master cylinder are installed. In order to get the specified 1/8" free play at the pedal pad, the lever with the arrow pointing at it is against the foot board. Is that normal/correct??Gary H

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Sent: Mon, Mar 13, 2023 5:29 pm
Subject: RE: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Michael assuming you have some resistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard and leave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly & you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve done this several times with my own and other people?s cars, and it works!

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes ?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/ ?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1. The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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The bubble will perhaps migrate to the highest point & if that is the reservoir then it might escape, but this only applies if the path is always up. Then bubble will never migrate on its own down. Also, the system is not pushing on the bubble in any single direction. If the system is under pressure, the is uniform throughout the entire system. Essentially, the bubble, being lighter than the fluid, trying to float. Bleeding the system is different, there is flow of the fluid to help move the bubble.Gary

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Peter-yea, what I think happens there, providing there are no leaks anywhere else, is that under pressure, overnight, the system "pushes" the air bubble to the only place that it can get out-the vent hole in the canister!
I have used this method also for "final bleeding"...could be a line item on an invoice to look official and garner more dough, Ha.? Hank

-----------------------------------------From: "greylinn--- via Healeys" 
To: "Michael Salter"
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 4:02:50PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Michael assuming you have someresistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard andleave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly& you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve donethis several times with my own and other people?s cars, and itworks!

Cheers?Peter?From:Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m.warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net>wrote:
We arehaving a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on afriend's BN1.The carhas recently under a full ground up restoration so things likebrake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brakecylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleedthe system so many times different way that I have losttrack.?We haveadjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to returnto the full "off" position.When weadjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" freemovement at the pedal.We haveadjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Ourissue is:Excessivebrake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumpingthe brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which wethink indicates air still in the system.We arenot having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly,IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary?? ??

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  As a follow up to my earlier email looking f=or a front shroud. I may have found one but it needs a little work. Does any=one have recommendations for someone with experience repairing these aluminu=m shrouds (shaping and fabricating). Aluminium requires a different skill se=t from that for steel. I live in the Portland area

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 =Richard,
Have you tried?Healey Lane? They have not done work for me but I have seen cars they have restored?to a high standard.
Harold
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Try Robert Wilson at Healey Lane Restoration, Marcola, OR
Neil Anderson?
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 Look into Vintageunderground.com630 Garfield StreetEugene, OR 97402?

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  Have you tried?Healey Lane? They have not done work for me but I have seen cars they have restored?to a high standard. 
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 As a follow up to my earlier email looking for a front shroud. I may have found one but it needs a little work. Does anyone have recommendations for someone with experience repairing these aluminum shrouds (shaping and fabricating). Aluminium requires a different skill set from that for steel. I live in the Portland area
 
    
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Richard,? If you find someone in the US then great, but you are not far from the Canadian border and there is an outstanding panel-former and welder with A LOT of experience with Healeys in the Vancouver area.? His name is Colin Bailey.? Colin worked for years with Rich Chrysler, which many listers will remember as being as a fastidious and extremely knowledgeable Healey restorer.? Colin moved to Vancouver some 10 years ago and I?d have to track him down for you, but I have wanted to touch base with him again anyhow, so I am happy to do that.? I?ll attach a photo of Colin welding a new flange on the rear shroud of my BT7.

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Cheers, Mirek

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Look into Vintageunderground.com 

630 Garfield Street

Eugene, OR 97402?

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Try Robert Wilson at Healey Lane Restoration, Marcola, OR
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As a follow up to my earlier email looking for a front shroud.I may have found one but it needs a little work. Does anyone haverecommendations for someone with experience repairing thesealuminum shrouds (shaping and fabricating). Aluminium requires adifferent skill set from that for steel. I live in the Portlandarea


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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 21:50:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 16, Issue 54
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We filled the master Cyl with fluid thru the reservoir port until fluid could be seen in the discharge port. Then connected the two lines. Is that what you mean?Gary? ?


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Gary,? ? ? ? ? Have you bled the master cylinder separately?
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? 3. Re: Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud (Harold Manifold)
? 4. Re: Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud (Neil Anderson)
? 5. Re: Aluminium shaper/fabricator for shroud (Charles Frazer)
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 Hi,? ? ? ? ? ?I too had problems bleeding bn1? Brake system.? It is most important that Handbrake is completely? isolated,
So would reccommend? disconnnecting? rear linkage at? drum !!? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Good Luck !!,? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Allan
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? 1. 100 brakes (warthodson at aol.com)
? 2. Re: Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs (Hank Leach)
? 3. Re: 100 brakes (Hank Leach)
? 4. Re: 100 brakes (Michael Salter)
? 5. Re: 100 brakes (greylinn at ozemail.com.au)
? 6. Re: 100 brakes (Hank Leach)
? 7. Re: 100 brakes (warthodson at aol.com)
? 8. Re: 100 brakes (warthodson at aol.com)
We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??I dont think its the wrench, as both fit.? It is more about the type of fiber washer and the proper placement of it. If you "wiggle" the fitting as you insert it by hand it will help to not strip out the casting (which is the scrafical item).? If it does not start in smoothly, STOP and redo it again by hand.? Carb bodies are expensive. Yes, WD-40 or even a bit of red grease will help the mating of the two threaded parts. "Genuine" SU parts are the best to use if you can find them. Hank

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To: "healeys at autox.team.net"
Cc: 
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 11:01:57AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs

Sure, but 13/16" fits well.


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Bob,
I think that SU fittings are Whitworth size wrench sizes...not13/16". And you can strip out the threads in the cast fuel bowllids.
Ben CohenBN1, BN7, BJ8


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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs

Are the washers brown or black? Ibelieve the brown ones are the
original type and the black ones are being proffered by somesuppliers
and may be slightly undersized. I usually, if I think of it, soakthem
in WD-40 for an hour or so before installing, and re-torque themafter a
day or so because they do take a set. I torque them 'elbow-tight*'with
a 13/16" half-inch socket and wrench (fits the bolt head well). Itwould
be difficult, but not impossible to strip the threads on a banjofitting
as they're coarse (you'd likely strip the carb or pump threads, notthe
bolt).

* Torque settings : finger-tight, wrist-tight,elbow-tight,
shoulder-tight and all-you-got tight.

Bob


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> Hello,
>
> I am having a problem with leaky banjo fittings?on my HD6carburetors.
> The leaks are at the banjo washers. The washers are new andall
> surfaces are clean and smooth.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on how to solve the leaks.Should
> the washers be soaked in anything first? Is there arecommended
> sealant? Is there a maximum torque?for the banjobolts?
>
> Thanks.... Harold
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 It sure sounds like air. The 100 system is difficult to bleed due to the placement of the wheel cylinders and bleeders. I like to pull out the fluid rather than push out the stuff. Use something like a Mityvac to do this starting at the right rear.?
The smallest bubbles will create a lot of pedal travel but if it pumps up to a hard pedal then its for sure air in the system. Keep the cap on the canister when bleeding and check under the canister for a wet finger.? Moss has good seals for that purpose.
The word "new" in brake systems scares me, as there are so many crappy replacement parts made in foreign countries that look like good new items. I prefer to rebuilt original or sleeve them if necessary to use the original items. The seal kits are another story. Can you find good Girling repair kits. Many of the foreign replacements are knockoffs of the original. Use TRW (they bought Lockheed) only-not unknown brands...even new Lucas is not old Lucas.
I pumped and pulled gallons of brake fluid thru a MKI bugeye system only to find the seal stuck in the back of the master cylinder because the Moss purchased seals were too big! Use TRW. When I got the replacement seals from them, they had the same number stamp on the seal. They are using the same molds to make the seals.
Did you use red grease on all the threaded fittings? Check all for a wet finger. Hope this info lessens your frustration. A word that goes hand in hand with brake bleeding. Hank

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Sent: Monday March 13 2023 12:07:18PM
Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Weare having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes ona friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration sothings like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in thebrake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I havelost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger isable to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8"free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue,which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port isfunctioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ?? This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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Michael assuming you have some resistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard and leave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly & you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve done this several times with my own and other people?s cars, and it works!

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes ?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/ ?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1. The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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Peter-yea, what I think happens there, providing there are no leaks anywhere else, is that under pressure, overnight, the system "pushes" the air bubble to the only place that it can get out-the vent hole in the canister!
I have used this method also for "final bleeding"...could be a line item on an invoice to look official and garner more dough, Ha.? Hank

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Sent: Monday March 13 2023 4:02:50PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Michael assuming you have someresistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard andleave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly& you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve donethis several times with my own and other people?s cars, and itworks!

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m.warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net>wrote:
We arehaving a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on afriend's BN1.The carhas recently under a full ground up restoration so things likebrake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brakecylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleedthe system so many times different way that I have losttrack.?We haveadjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to returnto the full "off" position.When weadjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" freemovement at the pedal.We haveadjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Ourissue is:Excessivebrake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumpingthe brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which wethink indicates air still in the system.We arenot having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly,IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary?? ??_______________________________________________
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 One more related question.? The attached illustrates exactly how our pedal assembly & master cylinder are installed. In order to get the specified 1/8" free play at the pedal pad, the lever with the arrow pointing at it is against the foot board. Is that normal/correct??Gary H

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Subject: RE: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Michael assuming you have some resistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard and leave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly & you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve done this several times with my own and other people?s cars, and it works!

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes ?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/ ?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1. The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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The bubble will perhaps migrate to the highest point & if that is the reservoir then it might escape, but this only applies if the path is always up. Then bubble will never migrate on its own down. Also, the system is not pushing on the bubble in any single direction. If the system is under pressure, the is uniform throughout the entire system. Essentially, the bubble, being lighter than the fluid, trying to float. Bleeding the system is different, there is flow of the fluid to help move the bubble.Gary

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Peter-yea, what I think happens there, providing there are no leaks anywhere else, is that under pressure, overnight, the system "pushes" the air bubble to the only place that it can get out-the vent hole in the canister!
I have used this method also for "final bleeding"...could be a line item on an invoice to look official and garner more dough, Ha.? Hank

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Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 4:02:50PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Michael assuming you have someresistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard andleave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly& you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve donethis several times with my own and other people?s cars, and itworks!

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m.warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net>wrote:
We arehaving a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on afriend's BN1.The carhas recently under a full ground up restoration so things likebrake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brakecylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleedthe system so many times different way that I have losttrack.?We haveadjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to returnto the full "off" position.When weadjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" freemovement at the pedal.We haveadjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Ourissue is:Excessivebrake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumpingthe brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which wethink indicates air still in the system.We arenot having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly,IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary?? ??

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  As a follow up to my earlier email looking f=or a front shroud. I may have found one but it needs a little work. Does any=one have recommendations for someone with experience repairing these aluminu=m shrouds (shaping and fabricating). Aluminium requires a different skill se=t from that for steel. I live in the Portland area

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Have you tried?Healey Lane? They have not done work for me but I have seen cars they have restored?to a high standard.
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Try Robert Wilson at Healey Lane Restoration, Marcola, OR
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 Look into Vintageunderground.com630 Garfield StreetEugene, OR 97402?

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  Since you're in Portland, I'll say give Tom Monaco a call. He'll help you if he can.? 
 
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  Have you tried?Healey Lane? They have not done work for me but I have seen cars they have restored?to a high standard. 
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 As a follow up to my earlier email looking for a front shroud. I may have found one but it needs a little work. Does anyone have recommendations for someone with experience repairing these aluminum shrouds (shaping and fabricating). Aluminium requires a different skill set from that for steel. I live in the Portland area
 
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Try Robert Wilson at Healey Lane Restoration, Marcola, OR
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Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 22:17:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes
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There is only one discharge connection on the 100 master cyl. If I leave the reservoir connected & disconnect the single brake line at the master cyl., then install a bleed screw & connect a plastic tube to it, will that suffice, if I pump in and out on the brake pedal?? ??
Gary H

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 16, Issue 54

Bench bleed MC before installing.? Pump in and out on the MC with?the full reservoir?connected and be sure fluid?comes out the discharge connectors? before you install it on the car.
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 5:56?PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

We filled the master Cyl with fluid thru the reservoir port until fluid could be seen in the discharge port. Then connected the two lines. Is that what you mean?Gary? ?


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Gary,? ? ? ? ? Have you bled the master cylinder separately?
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Gary,? ? ? ? ?As much trouble as?you are having I?d do it again.?Just loosen the the outlet enough to get fluid and air out.?Good luck,Dave Walsh


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 Hi,? ? ? ? ? ?I too had problems bleeding bn1? Brake system.? It is most important that Handbrake is completely? isolated,
So would reccommend? disconnnecting? rear linkage at? drum !!? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Good Luck !!,? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Allan
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We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??I dont think its the wrench, as both fit.? It is more about the type of fiber washer and the proper placement of it. If you "wiggle" the fitting as you insert it by hand it will help to not strip out the casting (which is the scrafical item).? If it does not start in smoothly, STOP and redo it again by hand.? Carb bodies are expensive. Yes, WD-40 or even a bit of red grease will help the mating of the two threaded parts. "Genuine" SU parts are the best to use if you can find them. Hank


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Sent: Monday March 13 2023 11:01:57AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs

Sure, but 13/16" fits well.


On 3/13/2023 9:37 AM, rct2bnc at aol.com wrote:

Bob,
I think that SU fittings are Whitworth size wrench sizes...not13/16". And you can strip out the threads in the cast fuel bowllids.
Ben CohenBN1, BN7, BJ8


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Are the washers brown or black? Ibelieve the brown ones are the
original type and the black ones are being proffered by somesuppliers
and may be slightly undersized. I usually, if I think of it, soakthem
in WD-40 for an hour or so before installing, and re-torque themafter a
day or so because they do take a set. I torque them 'elbow-tight*'with
a 13/16" half-inch socket and wrench (fits the bolt head well). Itwould
be difficult, but not impossible to strip the threads on a banjofitting
as they're coarse (you'd likely strip the carb or pump threads, notthe
bolt).

* Torque settings : finger-tight, wrist-tight,elbow-tight,
shoulder-tight and all-you-got tight.

Bob


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> Hello,
>
> I am having a problem with leaky banjo fittings?on my HD6carburetors.
> The leaks are at the banjo washers. The washers are new andall
> surfaces are clean and smooth.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on how to solve the leaks.Should
> the washers be soaked in anything first? Is there arecommended
> sealant? Is there a maximum torque?for the banjobolts?
>
> Thanks.... Harold
>

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 It sure sounds like air. The 100 system is difficult to bleed due to the placement of the wheel cylinders and bleeders. I like to pull out the fluid rather than push out the stuff. Use something like a Mityvac to do this starting at the right rear.?
The smallest bubbles will create a lot of pedal travel but if it pumps up to a hard pedal then its for sure air in the system. Keep the cap on the canister when bleeding and check under the canister for a wet finger.? Moss has good seals for that purpose.
The word "new" in brake systems scares me, as there are so many crappy replacement parts made in foreign countries that look like good new items. I prefer to rebuilt original or sleeve them if necessary to use the original items. The seal kits are another story. Can you find good Girling repair kits. Many of the foreign replacements are knockoffs of the original. Use TRW (they bought Lockheed) only-not unknown brands...even new Lucas is not old Lucas.
I pumped and pulled gallons of brake fluid thru a MKI bugeye system only to find the seal stuck in the back of the master cylinder because the Moss purchased seals were too big! Use TRW. When I got the replacement seals from them, they had the same number stamp on the seal. They are using the same molds to make the seals.
Did you use red grease on all the threaded fittings? Check all for a wet finger. Hope this info lessens your frustration. A word that goes hand in hand with brake bleeding. Hank


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Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Weare having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes ona friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration sothings like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in thebrake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I havelost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger isable to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8"free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue,which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port isfunctioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ?? This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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Michael assuming you have some resistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard and leave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly & you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve done this several times with my own and other people?s cars, and it works!

Cheers

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Peter

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, 14 March 2023 5:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

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This article may help.

https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

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On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:


We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1. 

The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.

We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?

We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.

When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.

We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.

Our issue is:

Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?

Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.

We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?

Gary

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Peter-yea, what I think happens there, providing there are no leaks anywhere else, is that under pressure, overnight, the system "pushes" the air bubble to the only place that it can get out-the vent hole in the canister!
I have used this method also for "final bleeding"...could be a line item on an invoice to look official and garner more dough, Ha.? Hank


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Sent: Monday March 13 2023 4:02:50PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes


Michael assuming you have someresistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard andleave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly& you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve donethis several times with my own and other people?s cars, and itworks!

Cheers

?

Peter

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

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This article may help.

https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

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On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m.warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net>wrote:


We arehaving a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on afriend's BN1.

The carhas recently under a full ground up restoration so things likebrake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brakecylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.

We bleedthe system so many times different way that I have losttrack.?

We haveadjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to returnto the full "off" position.

When weadjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" freemovement at the pedal.

We haveadjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.

Ourissue is:

Excessivebrake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?

Pumpingthe brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which wethink indicates air still in the system.

We arenot having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly,IE: no locking up of the brakes.?

Gary

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 One more related question.? The attached illustrates exactly how our pedal assembly & master cylinder are installed. In order to get the specified 1/8" free play at the pedal pad, the lever with the arrow pointing at it is against the foot board. Is that normal/correct??Gary H

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Subject: RE: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Michael assuming you have some resistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard and leave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly & you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve done this several times with my own and other people?s cars, and it works!

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes ?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/ ?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1. The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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The bubble will perhaps migrate to the highest point & if that is the reservoir then it might escape, but this only applies if the path is always up. Then bubble will never migrate on its own down. Also, the system is not pushing on the bubble in any single direction. If the system is under pressure, the is uniform throughout the entire system. Essentially, the bubble, being lighter than the fluid, trying to float. Bleeding the system is different, there is flow of the fluid to help move the bubble.Gary

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Peter-yea, what I think happens there, providing there are no leaks anywhere else, is that under pressure, overnight, the system "pushes" the air bubble to the only place that it can get out-the vent hole in the canister!
I have used this method also for "final bleeding"...could be a line item on an invoice to look official and garner more dough, Ha.? Hank

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To: "Michael Salter"
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 4:02:50PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Michael assuming you have someresistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard andleave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly& you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve donethis several times with my own and other people?s cars, and itworks!

Cheers?Peter?From:Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m.warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net>wrote:
We arehaving a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on afriend's BN1.The carhas recently under a full ground up restoration so things likebrake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brakecylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleedthe system so many times different way that I have losttrack.?We haveadjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to returnto the full "off" position.When weadjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" freemovement at the pedal.We haveadjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Ourissue is:Excessivebrake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumpingthe brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which wethink indicates air still in the system.We arenot having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly,IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary?? ??

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  As a follow up to my earlier email looking f=or a front shroud. I may have found one but it needs a little work. Does any=one have recommendations for someone with experience repairing these aluminu=m shrouds (shaping and fabricating). Aluminium requires a different skill se=t from that for steel. I live in the Portland area

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Have you tried?Healey Lane? They have not done work for me but I have seen cars they have restored?to a high standard.
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As a follow up to my earlier email looking for a front shroud. I may have found one but it needs a little work. Does anyone have recommendations for someone with experience repairing these aluminum shrouds (shaping and fabricating). Aluminium requires a different skill set from that for steel. I live in the Portland area


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Try Robert Wilson at Healey Lane Restoration, Marcola, OR
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 Look into Vintageunderground.com630 Garfield StreetEugene, OR 97402?

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  Since you're in Portland, I'll say give Tom Monaco a call. He'll help you if he can.? 
 
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  Have you tried?Healey Lane? They have not done work for me but I have seen cars they have restored?to a high standard. 
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Richard,? If you find someone in the US then great, but you are not far from the Canadian border and there is an outstanding panel-former and welder with A LOT of experience with Healeys in the Vancouver area.? His name is Colin Bailey.? Colin worked for years with Rich Chrysler, which many listers will remember as being as a fastidious and extremely knowledgeable Healey restorer.? Colin moved to Vancouver some 10 years ago and I?d have to track him down for you, but I have wanted to touch base with him again anyhow, so I am happy to do that.? I?ll attach a photo of Colin welding a new flange on the rear shroud of my BT7.

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Cheers, Mirek

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Look into Vintageunderground.com 

630 Garfield Street

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 Robert uses a great body shop in Eugene called Precision Classics-they did my 100 and many, many Healeys for John Wilson. Wonderfulcraftsmen with modern day skills. I highly recommend their work.It's worth the trip to Eugene to have them finish your car.?Hank


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Try Robert Wilson at Healey Lane Restoration, Marcola, OR
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We filled the master Cyl with fluid thru the reservoir port until fluid could be seen in the discharge port. Then connected the two lines. Is that what you mean?Gary? ?


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Gary,? ? ? ? ? Have you bled the master cylinder separately?
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 Hi,? ? ? ? ? ?I too had problems bleeding bn1? Brake system.? It is most important that Handbrake is completely? isolated,
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We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??I dont think its the wrench, as both fit.? It is more about the type of fiber washer and the proper placement of it. If you "wiggle" the fitting as you insert it by hand it will help to not strip out the casting (which is the scrafical item).? If it does not start in smoothly, STOP and redo it again by hand.? Carb bodies are expensive. Yes, WD-40 or even a bit of red grease will help the mating of the two threaded parts. "Genuine" SU parts are the best to use if you can find them. Hank

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Leaky Banjo Fittings at Carbs

Sure, but 13/16" fits well.


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Bob,
I think that SU fittings are Whitworth size wrench sizes...not13/16". And you can strip out the threads in the cast fuel bowllids.
Ben CohenBN1, BN7, BJ8


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Are the washers brown or black? Ibelieve the brown ones are the
original type and the black ones are being proffered by somesuppliers
and may be slightly undersized. I usually, if I think of it, soakthem
in WD-40 for an hour or so before installing, and re-torque themafter a
day or so because they do take a set. I torque them 'elbow-tight*'with
a 13/16" half-inch socket and wrench (fits the bolt head well). Itwould
be difficult, but not impossible to strip the threads on a banjofitting
as they're coarse (you'd likely strip the carb or pump threads, notthe
bolt).

* Torque settings : finger-tight, wrist-tight,elbow-tight,
shoulder-tight and all-you-got tight.

Bob


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>
> I am having a problem with leaky banjo fittings?on my HD6carburetors.
> The leaks are at the banjo washers. The washers are new andall
> surfaces are clean and smooth.
>
> I would appreciate any suggestions on how to solve the leaks.Should
> the washers be soaked in anything first? Is there arecommended
> sealant? Is there a maximum torque?for the banjobolts?
>
> Thanks.... Harold
>

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 It sure sounds like air. The 100 system is difficult to bleed due to the placement of the wheel cylinders and bleeders. I like to pull out the fluid rather than push out the stuff. Use something like a Mityvac to do this starting at the right rear.?
The smallest bubbles will create a lot of pedal travel but if it pumps up to a hard pedal then its for sure air in the system. Keep the cap on the canister when bleeding and check under the canister for a wet finger.? Moss has good seals for that purpose.
The word "new" in brake systems scares me, as there are so many crappy replacement parts made in foreign countries that look like good new items. I prefer to rebuilt original or sleeve them if necessary to use the original items. The seal kits are another story. Can you find good Girling repair kits. Many of the foreign replacements are knockoffs of the original. Use TRW (they bought Lockheed) only-not unknown brands...even new Lucas is not old Lucas.
I pumped and pulled gallons of brake fluid thru a MKI bugeye system only to find the seal stuck in the back of the master cylinder because the Moss purchased seals were too big! Use TRW. When I got the replacement seals from them, they had the same number stamp on the seal. They are using the same molds to make the seals.
Did you use red grease on all the threaded fittings? Check all for a wet finger. Hope this info lessens your frustration. A word that goes hand in hand with brake bleeding. Hank

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Sent: Monday March 13 2023 12:07:18PM
Subject: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Weare having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes ona friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration sothings like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in thebrake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I havelost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger isable to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8"free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue,which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port isfunctioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ?? This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/

On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1.The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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Michael assuming you have some resistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard and leave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly & you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve done this several times with my own and other people?s cars, and it works!

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes ?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/ ?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1. The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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Peter-yea, what I think happens there, providing there are no leaks anywhere else, is that under pressure, overnight, the system "pushes" the air bubble to the only place that it can get out-the vent hole in the canister!
I have used this method also for "final bleeding"...could be a line item on an invoice to look official and garner more dough, Ha.? Hank

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To: "Michael Salter"
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 4:02:50PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Michael assuming you have someresistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard andleave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly& you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve donethis several times with my own and other people?s cars, and itworks!

Cheers?Peter?From:Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>On Behalf Of Michael Salter via Healeys
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m.warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net>wrote:
We arehaving a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on afriend's BN1.The carhas recently under a full ground up restoration so things likebrake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brakecylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleedthe system so many times different way that I have losttrack.?We haveadjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to returnto the full "off" position.When weadjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" freemovement at the pedal.We haveadjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Ourissue is:Excessivebrake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumpingthe brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which wethink indicates air still in the system.We arenot having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly,IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary?? ??_______________________________________________
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 One more related question.? The attached illustrates exactly how our pedal assembly & master cylinder are installed. In order to get the specified 1/8" free play at the pedal pad, the lever with the arrow pointing at it is against the foot board. Is that normal/correct??Gary H

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Subject: RE: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Michael assuming you have some resistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard and leave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly & you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve done this several times with my own and other people?s cars, and it works!

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes ?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/ ?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
We are having a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on a friend's BN1. The car has recently under a full ground up restoration so things like brake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brake cylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleed the system so many times different way that I have lost track.?We have adjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to return to the full "off" position.When we adjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" free movement at the pedal.We have adjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag at rest.Our issue is:Excessive brake pedal travel before the brakes begin to be effective.?Pumping the brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which we think indicates air still in the system.We are not having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly, IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary? ? ??_______________________________________________
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The bubble will perhaps migrate to the highest point & if that is the reservoir then it might escape, but this only applies if the path is always up. Then bubble will never migrate on its own down. Also, the system is not pushing on the bubble in any single direction. If the system is under pressure, the is uniform throughout the entire system. Essentially, the bubble, being lighter than the fluid, trying to float. Bleeding the system is different, there is flow of the fluid to help move the bubble.Gary

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Peter-yea, what I think happens there, providing there are no leaks anywhere else, is that under pressure, overnight, the system "pushes" the air bubble to the only place that it can get out-the vent hole in the canister!
I have used this method also for "final bleeding"...could be a line item on an invoice to look official and garner more dough, Ha.? Hank

-----------------------------------------From: "greylinn--- via Healeys" 
To: "Michael Salter"
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday March 13 2023 4:02:50PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes

Michael assuming you have someresistance after pumping the pedal, jam the pedal down hard andleave it at least overnight, preferably longer. Do this repeatedly& you will find the pedal comes up. Don?t ask me why, but I?ve donethis several times with my own and other people?s cars, and itworks!

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 brakes?This article may help.https://precisionsportscar.com/bleeding-austin-healey-4-wheel-drum-brakes/?On Tue., Mar. 14, 2023, 7:54 a.m.warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net>wrote:
We arehaving a very difficult time adjusting & bleeding the brakes on afriend's BN1.The carhas recently under a full ground up restoration so things likebrake lines including flex lines are new, seals in the brakecylinders are new, the master cyl. is new, etc.We bleedthe system so many times different way that I have losttrack.?We haveadjusted the free play to assure that the plunger is able to returnto the full "off" position.When weadjust the operating rod to achieve the specified 1/8" freemovement at the pedal.We haveadjusted the brake shoes to have a very slight drag atrest.Ourissue is:Excessivebrake pedal travel before the brakes begin to beeffective.?Pumpingthe brakes temporarily improve the pedal travel issue, which wethink indicates air still in the system.We arenot having any leaks & the reservoir port is functioning correctly,IE: no locking up of the brakes.?Gary?? ??

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  As a follow up to my earlier email looking f=or a front shroud. I may have found one but it needs a little work. Does any=one have recommendations for someone with experience repairing these aluminu=m shrouds (shaping and fabricating). Aluminium requires a different skill se=t from that for steel. I live in the Portland area

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Have you tried?Healey Lane? They have not done work for me but I have seen cars they have restored?to a high standard.
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Try Robert Wilson at Healey Lane Restoration, Marcola, OR
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 Look into Vintageunderground.com630 Garfield StreetEugene, OR 97402?

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  Have you tried?Healey Lane? They have not done work for me but I have seen cars they have restored?to a high standard. 
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 As a follow up to my earlier email looking for a front shroud. I may have found one but it needs a little work. Does anyone have recommendations for someone with experience repairing these aluminum shrouds (shaping and fabricating). Aluminium requires a different skill set from that for steel. I live in the Portland area
 
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Try Robert Wilson at Healey Lane Restoration, Marcola, OR
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There is only one discharge connection on the 100 master cyl. If I leave the reservoir connected & disconnect the single brake line at the master cyl., then install a bleed screw & connect a plastic tube to it, will that suffice, if I pump in and out on the brake pedal?? ??
Gary H

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Bench bleed MC before installing.? Pump in and out on the MC with?the full reservoir?connected and be sure fluid?comes out the discharge connectors? before you install it on the car.
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 5:56?PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

We filled the master Cyl with fluid thru the reservoir port until fluid could be seen in the discharge port. Then connected the two lines. Is that what you mean?Gary? ?


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From: wdavid890dd--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, Mar 15, 2023 1:49 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 16, Issue 54

Gary,? ? ? ? ? Have you bled the master cylinder separately?
Dave Walsh



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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Sat Mar 18 10:49:57 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 16:49:57 -0000
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
Message-ID: <000001d959b9$ad626970$08273c50$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Here's a can of worms that we haven't delved into for a while..

So, I'm trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abroad. Car is a
MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch and 123Ignition
plus a so-called Sports Coil.

 

1.	I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and saw
that we were all over the place on plug gaps...all the way up to 0.035". So
what's the opinion there??
2.	And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK's BP6ES & BP5ES. Was
a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627  but that was dismissed fairly vigorously by
Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal road use.
3.	And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long as
they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?

 

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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sat Mar 18 12:16:36 2023
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 11:16:36 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
In-Reply-To: <000001d959b9$ad626970$08273c50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000001d959b9$ad626970$08273c50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <33b361bb-5eb4-14b4-3ca0-ff6204782fdf@comcast.net>

I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and will 
continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the recommended is 
for a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in both, I run slightly 
over 'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both run very well (I also run 
stranded copper wire secondaries, so the 'R' is important, plus the plug 
caps have a resistor in them as well). My one-time auto shop teacher 
father maintained whatever spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture 
was adequate--mixture and compression took it from there--but a larger 
gap induces a 'hotter' spark which may be beneficial with leaner 
mixtures and at higher engine RPM (but has less margin as the electrode 
erodes). A larger gap requires the coil to produce more secondary 
voltage to jump the gap; a sports coil may be required to produce a 
consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in my experience--as long 
as the engine is in good nick--and they can be cleaned and re-gapped at 
least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit the ceramic insulator 
and can cause issues.

I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3 Diamond 
'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep, E3 makes a 
plug for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard rumors that 
counterfeit NGK plugs are in the market.



On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.
>
> So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abroad. 
> Car is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch 
> and 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.
>
>  1. I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and saw
>     that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all the way up to
>     0.035?. So what?s the opinion there??
>  2. And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES & BP5ES.
>     Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627? but thatwas dismissed fairly
>     vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal road use.
>  3. And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long as
>     they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks, Simon
>
>
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From manifold at telus.net  Sat Mar 18 16:47:18 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2023 15:47:18 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Stripping Paint from Hard Top
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCAkO5xnaj=8+wEH2SywvC3fi69wwCdtwwF7YBk=vcMyaQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Any suggestions on how best to remove the paint from an AH fiberglass hard
top?

Thanks... Harold
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From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 18 18:03:22 2023
From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 00:03:22 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Stripping Paint from Hard Top
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCAkO5xnaj=8+wEH2SywvC3fi69wwCdtwwF7YBk=vcMyaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFP1XCAkO5xnaj=8+wEH2SywvC3fi69wwCdtwwF7YBk=vcMyaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DS7PR11MB60788C1A5C3F31766B7DE03CD1839@DS7PR11MB6078.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Harold,
Sandpaper, start with 100 grit, then 240, 360 and then likely will need some repairs, so would do the repairs before gojng for a smoother surface.

Jean

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network.
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2023 5:47:18 PM
To: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Stripping Paint from Hard Top

Hello,

Any suggestions on how best to remove the paint from an AH fiberglass hard top?

Thanks... Harold
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Sun Mar 19 06:01:54 2023
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 08:01:54 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
In-Reply-To: <33b361bb-5eb4-14b4-3ca0-ff6204782fdf@comcast.net>
References: <000001d959b9$ad626970$08273c50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <33b361bb-5eb4-14b4-3ca0-ff6204782fdf@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <003001d95a5a$99195130$cb4bf390$@sympatico.ca>

I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor plug ? Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap.  I too use a Lucas Sports coil.  I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to supress interference with car radios, which I don?t have, but I am happy to be corrected on that.   I think plugs are unnecessarily changed too frequently.  I remove them once in a while (every few years) and clean and check the gaps.  I run them until they shows signs of deterioration.  I have never had a plug fail me in the Healey.

 

Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Plugs

 

I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and will continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the recommended is for a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in both, I run slightly over 'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both run very well (I also run stranded copper wire secondaries, so the 'R' is important, plus the plug caps have a resistor in them as well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintained whatever spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a 'hotter' spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at higher engine RPM (but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A larger gap requires the coil to produce more secondary voltage to jump the gap; a sports coil may be required to produce a consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in my experience--as long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be cleaned and re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit the ceramic insulator and can cause issues. 

I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3 Diamond 'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep, E3 makes a plug for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard rumors that counterfeit NGK plugs are in the market.




On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:

Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.

So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abroad. Car is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch and 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.

 

1.	I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and saw that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all the way up to 0.035?. So what?s the opinion there??
2.	And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES & BP5ES. Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627  but that was dismissed fairly vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal road use.
3.	And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long as they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?

 

Thanks, Simon

 

 

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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Sun Mar 19 07:01:16 2023
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 14:01:16 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
In-Reply-To: <003001d95a5a$99195130$cb4bf390$@sympatico.ca>
References: <000001d959b9$ad626970$08273c50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <33b361bb-5eb4-14b4-3ca0-ff6204782fdf@comcast.net>
 <003001d95a5a$99195130$cb4bf390$@sympatico.ca>
Message-ID: <1679230876969.702300.189ee28bbaebc1a0af4319b70429063b835f065d@spica.telekom.de>

I second Mirek in all.
 
Josef
 
 
 
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Plugs
Datum: 2023-03-19T13:25:21+0100
Von: "m.g.sharp--- via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
An: "'Bob Spidell'" <bspidell at comcast.net>, "healeys at autox.team.net" 
<healeys at autox.team.net>
 
 
 

I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor plug ? 
Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap.  I too use a Lucas Sports coil.  I always 
thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to supress interference with 
car radios, which I don?t have, but I am happy to be corrected on that.   I 
think plugs are unnecessarily changed too frequently.  I remove them once 
in a while (every few years) and clean and check the gaps.  I run them 
until they shows signs of deterioration.  I have never had a plug fail me 
in the Healey.

 

Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Plugs

 

I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and will 
continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the recommended is for 
a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in both, I run slightly over 
'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both run very well (I also run stranded 
copper wire secondaries, so the 'R' is important, plus the plug caps have a 
resistor in them as well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintained 
whatever spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture 
and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a 'hotter' 
spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at higher engine RPM 
(but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A larger gap requires the 
coil to produce more secondary voltage to jump the gap; a sports coil may 
be required to produce a consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in my 
experience--as long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be cleaned 
and re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit the 
ceramic insulator and can cause issues.

I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3 Diamond 
'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep, E3 makes a plug 
for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard rumors that counterfeit 
NGK plugs are in the market.



On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:

    Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.

    So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abroad. Car
    is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch and
    123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.

     

       1. I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and
          saw that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all the way up
          to 0.035?. So what?s the opinion there??
       2. And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES & BP5ES.
          Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627  but that was dismissed
          fairly vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal
          road use.
       3. And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long
          as they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?

     

    Thanks, Simon

     

 

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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 07:52:56 2023
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 09:52:56 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
In-Reply-To: <003001d95a5a$99195130$cb4bf390$@sympatico.ca>
References: <000001d959b9$ad626970$08273c50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <33b361bb-5eb4-14b4-3ca0-ff6204782fdf@comcast.net>
 <003001d95a5a$99195130$cb4bf390$@sympatico.ca>
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B4d9zNT-K9RtCorKiYdoL_w4fP5S3PkMRXuPVKiDUtSYA@mail.gmail.com>

"I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to suppress
interference with car radios, which I don?t have,"
-----------------------------------------------------
They also eliminate your ignition's noise in nearby vehicles.

Best--Michael Oritt


On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:11?AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor plug ?
> Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap.  I too use a Lucas Sports coil.  I always
> thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to supress interference with
> car radios, which I don?t have, but I am happy to be corrected on that.   I
> think plugs are unnecessarily changed too frequently.  I remove them once
> in a while (every few years) and clean and check the gaps.  I run them
> until they shows signs of deterioration.  I have never had a plug fail me
> in the Healey.
>
>
>
> Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
> Spidell
> *Sent:* March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Plugs
>
>
>
> I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and will
> continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the recommended is for
> a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in both, I run slightly over
> 'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both run very well (I also run stranded
> copper wire secondaries, so the 'R' is important, plus the plug caps have a
> resistor in them as well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintained
> whatever spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture
> and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a 'hotter'
> spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at higher engine RPM
> (but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A larger gap requires the
> coil to produce more secondary voltage to jump the gap; a sports coil may
> be required to produce a consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in my
> experience--as long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be cleaned
> and re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit the
> ceramic insulator and can cause issues.
>
> I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3 Diamond
> 'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep, E3 makes a plug
> for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard rumors that counterfeit
> NGK plugs are in the market.
>
>
> On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.
>
> So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abroad. Car is
> a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch and
> 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.
>
>
>
>    1. I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and saw
>    that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all the way up to 0.035?. So
>    what?s the opinion there??
>    2. And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES & BP5ES.
>    Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627  but that was dismissed fairly
>    vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal road use.
>    3. And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long as
>    they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Simon
>
>
>
>
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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Sun Mar 19 08:25:21 2023
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 15:25:21 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B4d9zNT-K9RtCorKiYdoL_w4fP5S3PkMRXuPVKiDUtSYA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d959b9$ad626970$08273c50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <33b361bb-5eb4-14b4-3ca0-ff6204782fdf@comcast.net>
 <003001d95a5a$99195130$cb4bf390$@sympatico.ca>
 <CAPTa0B4d9zNT-K9RtCorKiYdoL_w4fP5S3PkMRXuPVKiDUtSYA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1679235920998.708164.59b8804daed6b02e3e6e9e5f38a0a4b916adc18a@spica.telekom.de>

I do not care what kind of noices are in nearby vehicles.
 
 
 
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Plugs
Datum: 2023-03-19T15:15:37+0100
Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
An: "m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca" <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
 
 
 
"I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to suppress 
interference with car radios, which I don?t have,"
-----------------------------------------------------
They also eliminate your ignition's noise in nearby vehicles.
 
Best--Michael Oritt
 

On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:11?AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

  I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor plug ?
  Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap.  I too use a Lucas Sports coil.  I always
  thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to supress interference
  with car radios, which I don?t have, but I am happy to be corrected on
  that.   I think plugs are unnecessarily changed too frequently.  I remove
  them once in a while (every few years) and clean and check the gaps.  I
  run them until they shows signs of deterioration.  I have never had a
  plug fail me in the Healey.

   

  Mirek

   

  From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
  <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
  Sent: March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
  To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
  Subject: Re: [Healeys] Plugs

   

  I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and will
  continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the recommended is
  for a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in both, I run slightly over
  'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both run very well (I also run
  stranded copper wire secondaries, so the 'R' is important, plus the plug
  caps have a resistor in them as well). My one-time auto shop teacher
  father maintained whatever spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was
  adequate--mixture and compression took it from there--but a larger gap
  induces a 'hotter' spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and
  at higher engine RPM (but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A
  larger gap requires the coil to produce more secondary voltage to jump
  the gap; a sports coil may be required to produce a consistent spark. 12K
  miles on plugs is fine in my experience--as long as the engine is in good
  nick--and they can be cleaned and re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting
  is a no-no as it will pit the ceramic insulator and can cause issues.

  I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3 Diamond
  'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep, E3 makes a plug
  for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard rumors that counterfeit
  NGK plugs are in the market.



  On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:

      Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.

      So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abroad.
      Car is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch
      and 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.

       

         1. I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and
            saw that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all the way
            up to 0.035?. So what?s the opinion there??
         2. And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES &
            BP5ES. Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627  but that was
            dismissed fairly vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT
            for normal road use.
         3. And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long
            as they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?

       

      Thanks, Simon

       

   

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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Mar 19 09:42:18 2023
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 08:42:18 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
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Message-ID: <b07345bb-1569-9b80-3163-d9795aea6cc1@comcast.net>

I suspect, but don't know for a fact, that resistor plugs limit some of 
the /current/ to the plug, and may somewhat reduce erosion of the 
terminals. The voltage drop across the resistor is inconsequential 
compared to the voltage required to jump the gap. Non-resistor plugs do 
produce a hotter spark.

https://www.championautoparts.com/Technical/Tech-Tips/decoding-champion-spark-plugs.html


On 3/19/2023 6:52 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> "I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to suppress 
> interference with car radios, which I don?t have,"
> -----------------------------------------------------
> They?also eliminate your ignition's noise in nearby vehicles.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:11?AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor
>     plug ? Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap.? I too use a Lucas Sports
>     coil.? I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to
>     supress interference with car radios, which I don?t have, but I am
>     happy to be corrected on that.? ?I think plugs are unnecessarily
>     changed too frequently. I remove them once in a while (every few
>     years) and clean and check the gaps.? I run them until they shows
>     signs of deterioration.? I have never had a plug fail me in the
>     Healey.
>
>     Mirek
>
>     *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
>     Spidell
>     *Sent:* March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
>     *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Plugs
>
>     I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and
>     will continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the
>     recommended is for a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in
>     both, I run slightly over 'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both
>     run very well (I also run stranded copper wire secondaries, so the
>     'R' is important, plus the plug caps have a resistor in them as
>     well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintained whatever
>     spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture
>     and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a
>     'hotter' spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at
>     higher engine RPM (but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A
>     larger gap requires the coil to produce more secondary voltage to
>     jump the gap; a sports coil may be required to produce a
>     consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in my experience--as
>     long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be cleaned and
>     re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit
>     the ceramic insulator and can cause issues.
>
>     I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3
>     Diamond 'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep,
>     E3 makes a plug for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard
>     rumors that counterfeit NGK plugs are in the market.
>
>
>     On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
>         Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.
>
>         So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run
>         abroad. Car is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big
>         bore 6 branch and 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.
>
>          1. I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics
>             and saw that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all
>             the way up to 0.035?. So what?s the opinion there??
>          2. And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES &
>             BP5ES. Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627? but thatwas
>             dismissed fairly vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way
>             OTT for normal road use.
>          3. And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so
>             long as they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?
>
>         Thanks, Simon
>
>
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Mar 19 10:15:02 2023
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 09:15:02 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
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Now that I've had my first cup of coffee and am somewhat sentient I 
recalled that Pertronix advises /against/ using stranded metal wire 
secondaries with its Ignitor units. This made no sense to me because the 
coil effectively electronically isolates the primary circuit the Ignitor 
controls from the secondary, high voltage circuit (coils are sometimes 
used in electrical circuits for this property). But, someone pointed out 
the EMI from metal wires could adversely affect the Ignitor as it 
employs a Hall Effect sensor to detect the rotation of the distributor 
shaft (6-cyl Ignitors have a collar with 6 magnets, the 4-cyl units can 
apparently detect the lobes from their shape and don't require the 
collar, and there's likely little to no room for one anyway*). IOW, a 
strong magnetic field could affect an Ignitor's ability to sense the 
magnets or cam lobes. If the Pertronix people--who I've found to be very 
knowledgeable and helpful--encountered this just a few times they would 
likely issue a broad advisory against it (I suspect 95% plus of their 
business is with the hot rod crowd, who likely use suppressor wires 
because they're prettier). So, if you use a Pertronix Ignitor, use 
non-resistor plugs and have sporadic misfires you could try using 
resistor plugs. Offhand, I think most of the plug caps offered by 
suppliers have resistors.

* When I first opened the box for my BN2's Ignitor I thought 'Crap, they 
forget to send the magnet collar.' Then, I broke down and read the 
instructions.


On 3/19/2023 6:52 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> "I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to suppress 
> interference with car radios, which I don?t have,"
> -----------------------------------------------------
> They?also eliminate your ignition's noise in nearby vehicles.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:11?AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor
>     plug ? Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap.? I too use a Lucas Sports
>     coil.? I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to
>     supress interference with car radios, which I don?t have, but I am
>     happy to be corrected on that.? ?I think plugs are unnecessarily
>     changed too frequently. I remove them once in a while (every few
>     years) and clean and check the gaps.? I run them until they shows
>     signs of deterioration.? I have never had a plug fail me in the
>     Healey.
>
>     Mirek
>
>     *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
>     Spidell
>     *Sent:* March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
>     *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Plugs
>
>     I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and
>     will continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the
>     recommended is for a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in
>     both, I run slightly over 'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both
>     run very well (I also run stranded copper wire secondaries, so the
>     'R' is important, plus the plug caps have a resistor in them as
>     well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintained whatever
>     spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture
>     and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a
>     'hotter' spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at
>     higher engine RPM (but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A
>     larger gap requires the coil to produce more secondary voltage to
>     jump the gap; a sports coil may be required to produce a
>     consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in my experience--as
>     long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be cleaned and
>     re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit
>     the ceramic insulator and can cause issues.
>
>     I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3
>     Diamond 'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep,
>     E3 makes a plug for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard
>     rumors that counterfeit NGK plugs are in the market.
>
>
>     On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
>         Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.
>
>         So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run
>         abroad. Car is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big
>         bore 6 branch and 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.
>
>          1. I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics
>             and saw that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all
>             the way up to 0.035?. So what?s the opinion there??
>          2. And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES &
>             BP5ES. Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627? but thatwas
>             dismissed fairly vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way
>             OTT for normal road use.
>          3. And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so
>             long as they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?
>
>         Thanks, Simon
>
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Mar 19 10:33:46 2023
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 09:33:46 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
In-Reply-To: <1679235920998.708164.59b8804daed6b02e3e6e9e5f38a0a4b916adc18a@spica.telekom.de>
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Josef, you're nothing if not consistent.


On 3/19/2023 7:25 AM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> I do not care what kind of noices arein nearby vehicles.
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Plugs
>
> Datum: 2023-03-19T15:15:37+0100
>
> Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
>
> An: "m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca" <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
>
> "I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to suppress 
> interference with car radios, which I don?t have,"
> -----------------------------------------------------
> They?also eliminate your ignition's noise in nearby vehicles.
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:11?AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor
>     plug ? Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap.? I too use a Lucas Sports
>     coil.? I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to
>     supress interference with car radios, which I don?t have, but I am
>     happy to be corrected on that.? ?I think plugs are unnecessarily
>     changed too frequently.? I remove them once in a while (every few
>     years) and clean and check the gaps.? I run them until they shows
>     signs of deterioration.? I have never had a plug fail me in the
>     Healey.
>
>     Mirek
>
>     *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
>     Spidell
>     *Sent:* March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
>     *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Plugs
>
>     I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and
>     will continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the
>     recommended is for a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in
>     both, I run slightly over 'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both
>     run very well (I also run stranded copper wire secondaries, so the
>     'R' is important, plus the plug caps have a resistor in them as
>     well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintained whatever
>     spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture
>     and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a
>     'hotter' spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at
>     higher engine RPM (but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A
>     larger gap requires the coil to produce more secondary voltage to
>     jump the gap; a sports coil may be required to produce a
>     consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in my experience--as
>     long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be cleaned and
>     re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit
>     the ceramic insulator and can cause issues.
>
>     I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3
>     Diamond 'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep,
>     E3 makes a plug for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard
>     rumors that counterfeit NGK plugs are in the market.
>
>
>     On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
>         Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.
>
>         So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run
>         abroad. Car is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big
>         bore 6 branch and 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.
>
>          1. I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics
>             and saw that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all
>             the way up to 0.035?. So what?s the opinion there??
>          2. And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES &
>             BP5ES. Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627? but thatwas
>             dismissed fairly vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way
>             OTT for normal road use.
>          3. And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so
>             long as they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?
>
>         Thanks, Simon
>
>
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Sun Mar 19 10:36:32 2023
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 12:36:32 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
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I need to by Joseph a pint for that unqualified agreement with me!

 

From: josef-eckert at t-online.de <josef-eckert at t-online.de> 
Sent: March 19, 2023 9:01 AM
To: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca; Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>; healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: AW: [Healeys] Plugs

 

I second Mirek in all.

 

Josef

 

 

 

-----Original-Nachricht-----

Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Plugs

Datum: 2023-03-19T13:25:21+0100

Von: "m.g.sharp--- via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

An: "'Bob Spidell'" <bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net> >, "healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> " <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

 

 

 

I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor plug ? Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap.  I too use a Lucas Sports coil.  I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to supress interference with car radios, which I don?t have, but I am happy to be corrected on that.   I think plugs are unnecessarily changed too frequently.  I remove them once in a while (every few years) and clean and check the gaps.  I run them until they shows signs of deterioration.  I have never had a plug fail me in the Healey.

 

Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Plugs

 

I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and will continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the recommended is for a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in both, I run slightly over 'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both run very well (I also run stranded copper wire secondaries, so the 'R' is important, plus the plug caps have a resistor in them as well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintained whatever spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a 'hotter' spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at higher engine RPM (but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A larger gap requires the coil to produce more secondary voltage to jump the gap; a sports coil may be required to produce a consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in my experience--as long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be cleaned and re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit the ceramic insulator and can cause issues. 

I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3 Diamond 'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep, E3 makes a plug for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard rumors that counterfeit NGK plugs are in the market.



On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:

Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.

So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abroad. Car is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch and 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.

 

1.	I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and saw that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all the way up to 0.035?. So what?s the opinion there??
2.	And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES & BP5ES. Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627  but that was dismissed fairly vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal road use.
3.	And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long as they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?

 

Thanks, Simon

 

 

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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Sun Mar 19 10:38:19 2023
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 12:38:19 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
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I second (Mirek) Joseph in all

 

From: josef-eckert at t-online.de <josef-eckert at t-online.de> 
Sent: March 19, 2023 10:25 AM
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>; m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: AW: [Healeys] Plugs

 

I do not care what kind of noices are in nearby vehicles.

 

 

 

-----Original-Nachricht-----

Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Plugs

Datum: 2023-03-19T15:15:37+0100

Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt at gmail.com <mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com> >

An: "m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca <mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> " <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca <mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> >

 

 

 

"I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to suppress interference with car radios, which I don?t have,"

-----------------------------------------------------

They also eliminate your ignition's noise in nearby vehicles.

 

Best--Michael Oritt

 

 

On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:11?AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor plug ? Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap.  I too use a Lucas Sports coil.  I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to supress interference with car radios, which I don?t have, but I am happy to be corrected on that.   I think plugs are unnecessarily changed too frequently.  I remove them once in a while (every few years) and clean and check the gaps.  I run them until they shows signs of deterioration.  I have never had a plug fail me in the Healey.

 

Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Plugs

 

I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and will continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the recommended is for a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in both, I run slightly over 'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both run very well (I also run stranded copper wire secondaries, so the 'R' is important, plus the plug caps have a resistor in them as well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintained whatever spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a 'hotter' spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at higher engine RPM (but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A larger gap requires the coil to produce more secondary voltage to jump the gap; a sports coil may be required to produce a consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in my experience--as long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be cleaned and re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit the ceramic insulator and can cause issues. 

I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3 Diamond 'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep, E3 makes a plug for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard rumors that counterfeit NGK plugs are in the market.



On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:

Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.

So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abroad. Car is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch and 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.

 

1.	I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and saw that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all the way up to 0.035?. So what?s the opinion there??
2.	And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES & BP5ES. Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627  but that was dismissed fairly vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal road use.
3.	And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long as they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?

 

Thanks, Simon

 

 

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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Sun Mar 19 10:53:43 2023
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 17:53:43 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
In-Reply-To: <005a01d95a80$f6da0fa0$e48e2ee0$@sympatico.ca>
References: <000001d959b9$ad626970$08273c50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <33b361bb-5eb4-14b4-3ca0-ff6204782fdf@comcast.net>
 <003001d95a5a$99195130$cb4bf390$@sympatico.ca>
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Mirek,
I have nothing against a pint, prefer IPA or German Weizen. But not for 
that.
I just agree with what you said.
 
Josef
 
 
 
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: RE: [Healeys] Plugs
Datum: 2023-03-19T17:36:42+0100
Von: "m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca" <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>, "'Bob Spidell'" 
<bspidell at comcast.net>, "healeys at autox.team.net" <healeys at autox.team.net>
 
 
 

I need to by Joseph a pint for that unqualified agreement with me!

 

From: josef-eckert at t-online.de <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
Sent: March 19, 2023 9:01 AM
To: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca; Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>; 
healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: AW: [Healeys] Plugs

 

I second Mirek in all.
 
Josef
 
 
 
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Plugs
Datum: 2023-03-19T13:25:21+0100
Von: "m.g.sharp--- via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net
<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
An: "'Bob Spidell'" <bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net> >, 
"healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> " <
healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
 
 
 

I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor plug ? 
Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap.  I too use a Lucas Sports coil.  I always 
thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to supress interference with 
car radios, which I don?t have, but I am happy to be corrected on that.   I 
think plugs are unnecessarily changed too frequently.  I remove them once 
in a while (every few years) and clean and check the gaps.  I run them 
until they shows signs of deterioration.  I have never had a plug fail me 
in the Healey.

 

Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Plugs

 

I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and will 
continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the recommended is for 
a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in both, I run slightly over 
'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both run very well (I also run stranded 
copper wire secondaries, so the 'R' is important, plus the plug caps have a 
resistor in them as well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintained 
whatever spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture 
and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a 'hotter' 
spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at higher engine RPM 
(but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A larger gap requires the 
coil to produce more secondary voltage to jump the gap; a sports coil may 
be required to produce a consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in my 
experience--as long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be cleaned 
and re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit the 
ceramic insulator and can cause issues.

I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3 Diamond 
'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep, E3 makes a plug 
for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard rumors that counterfeit 
NGK plugs are in the market.


On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:

    Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.

    So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abroad. Car
    is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch and
    123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.

     

       1. I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and
          saw that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all the way up
          to 0.035?. So what?s the opinion there??
       2. And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES & BP5ES.
          Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627  but that was dismissed
          fairly vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal
          road use.
       3. And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long
          as they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?

     

    Thanks, Simon

     

 

 

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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 12:05:12 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 11:05:12 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
In-Reply-To: <003001d95a5a$99195130$cb4bf390$@sympatico.ca>
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 introduced to supress interference with car radios, which I don?t have.
they do and the cars next to you at a red light will get interference
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes


1967 MGB  [image: MG]

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words


On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 5:19?AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor plug ?
> Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap.  I too use a Lucas Sports coil.  I always
> thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to supress interference with
> car radios, which I don?t have, but I am happy to be corrected on that.   I
> think plugs are unnecessarily changed too frequently.  I remove them once
> in a while (every few years) and clean and check the gaps.  I run them
> until they shows signs of deterioration.  I have never had a plug fail me
> in the Healey.
>
>
>
> Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
> Spidell
> *Sent:* March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Plugs
>
>
>
> I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and will
> continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the recommended is for
> a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in both, I run slightly over
> 'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both run very well (I also run stranded
> copper wire secondaries, so the 'R' is important, plus the plug caps have a
> resistor in them as well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintained
> whatever spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture
> and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a 'hotter'
> spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at higher engine RPM
> (but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A larger gap requires the
> coil to produce more secondary voltage to jump the gap; a sports coil may
> be required to produce a consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in my
> experience--as long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be cleaned
> and re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit the
> ceramic insulator and can cause issues.
>
> I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3 Diamond
> 'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep, E3 makes a plug
> for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard rumors that counterfeit
> NGK plugs are in the market.
>
>
> On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.
>
> So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abroad. Car is
> a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch and
> 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.
>
>
>
>    1. I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and saw
>    that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all the way up to 0.035?. So
>    what?s the opinion there??
>    2. And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES & BP5ES.
>    Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627  but that was dismissed fairly
>    vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal road use.
>    3. And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long as
>    they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Simon
>
>
>
>
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Sun Mar 19 14:02:47 2023
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 16:02:47 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
In-Reply-To: <1679235920998.708164.59b8804daed6b02e3e6e9e5f38a0a4b916adc18a@spica.telekom.de>
References: <000001d959b9$ad626970$08273c50$@alexarevel.plus.com>
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 <003001d95a5a$99195130$cb4bf390$@sympatico.ca>
 <CAPTa0B4d9zNT-K9RtCorKiYdoL_w4fP5S3PkMRXuPVKiDUtSYA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAPTa0B66qmz8WOPQCcnA9429JS86QUzh4+FTkdcy9UuoU6X_aw@mail.gmail.com>

A guy named Alan Smith had a garage on South Beach full of old
Rolls-Royce's dating from Miami Beach's heydays in the 20's and 30's. He
described himself as a certified RR mechanic but I believe he was simply a
professional chauffeur who had a classy English accent.  Nevertheless he
knew his stuff and as an aspiring gearhead I used to hang out there.  I had
a TR3 with a radio and I remember asking Smith what he thought about
putting an inline resistor into the distributor to coil wire.  He shook his
head and simply removed the wire, tied an overhand knot in it and
reinstalled it.  *Voila--*the ignition noise was gone.

Best--Michael Oritt


On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 10:25?AM josef-eckert at t-online.de <
josef-eckert at t-online.de> wrote:

> I do not care what kind of noices are in nearby vehicles.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Plugs
>
> Datum: 2023-03-19T15:15:37+0100
>
> Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
>
> An: "m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca" <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to suppress
> interference with car radios, which I don?t have,"
> -----------------------------------------------------
> They also eliminate your ignition's noise in nearby vehicles.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:11?AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor plug ?
>> Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap.  I too use a Lucas Sports coil.  I always
>> thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to supress interference with
>> car radios, which I don?t have, but I am happy to be corrected on that.   I
>> think plugs are unnecessarily changed too frequently.  I remove them once
>> in a while (every few years) and clean and check the gaps.  I run them
>> until they shows signs of deterioration.  I have never had a plug fail me
>> in the Healey.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mirek
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
>> Spidell
>> *Sent:* March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
>> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Plugs
>>
>>
>>
>> I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and will
>> continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the recommended is for
>> a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in both, I run slightly over
>> 'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both run very well (I also run stranded
>> copper wire secondaries, so the 'R' is important, plus the plug caps have a
>> resistor in them as well). My one-time auto shop teacher father maintained
>> whatever spark was sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture
>> and compression took it from there--but a larger gap induces a 'hotter'
>> spark which may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at higher engine RPM
>> (but has less margin as the electrode erodes). A larger gap requires the
>> coil to produce more secondary voltage to jump the gap; a sports coil may
>> be required to produce a consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is fine in my
>> experience--as long as the engine is in good nick--and they can be cleaned
>> and re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as it will pit the
>> ceramic insulator and can cause issues.
>>
>> I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3 Diamond
>> 'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep, E3 makes a plug
>> for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard rumors that counterfeit
>> NGK plugs are in the market.
>>
>>
>> On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.
>>
>> So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abroad. Car
>> is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch and
>> 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil.
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and saw
>>    that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all the way up to 0.035?. So
>>    what?s the opinion there??
>>    2. And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES & BP5ES.
>>    Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627  but that was dismissed fairly
>>    vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal road use.
>>    3. And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long as
>>    they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Simon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Sun Mar 19 14:54:03 2023
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 20:54:03 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Plugs
Message-ID: <0e721c5fe3cfa76fd2136dfd9ce030eac9c4030c@webmail>

I'm sure that only your neighbor gets pissed when you drive by their
house with bumblebee wired Healeys and they also have an old tube type
radio or TV. Not sure that LED TVs or modern car radios are affected
by engine noise, but all of it is RF so it might affect even your
phone as well. Hank

	-----------------------------------------From: "josef-eckert--- via
Healeys" 
To: "Michael Oritt", "m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca"
Cc: "healeys at autox.team.net"
Sent: Sunday March 19 2023 7:44:23AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Plugs

	 I do not care what kind of noices are in nearby vehicles.

	-----Original-Nachricht----- 

	Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Plugs 

	Datum: 2023-03-19T15:15:37+0100 

	Von: "Michael Oritt"  

	An: "m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca"  

	    "I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to
suppress interference with car radios, which I don?t have,"
----------------------------------------------------- They also
eliminate your ignition's noise in nearby vehicles.   Best--Michael
Oritt    
 On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 8:11?AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys  wrote:   
 

	I do exactly what Bob does with my BT7 except I use a non-resistor
plug ? Champion N12YC and 0.028? gap. I too use a Lucas Sports
coil. I always thought the resistor plugs were to introduced to
supress interference with car radios, which I don?t have, but I am
happy to be corrected on that. I think plugs are unnecessarily changed
too frequently. I remove them once in a while (every few years) and
clean and check the gaps. I run them until they shows signs of
deterioration. I have never had a plug fail me in the Healey. 

	Mirek 

	FROM: Healeys  ON BEHALF OF Bob Spidell
SENT: March 18, 2023 2:17 PM
TO: healeys at autox.team.net
SUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] Plugs   

	I've run over 150K miles on Champion plugs with nary an issue (and
will continue to do so); RN12YC for the BJ8 and whatever the
recommended is for a 100M (RN10C?). With Pertronix Ignitors in both, I
run slightly over 'book' value (0.025") at 0.028" and both run very
well (I also run stranded copper wire secondaries, so the 'R' is
important, plus the plug caps have a resistor in them as well). My
one-time auto shop teacher father maintained whatever spark was
sufficient to ignite the mixture was adequate--mixture and compression
took it from there--but a larger gap induces a 'hotter' spark which
may be beneficial with leaner mixtures and at higher engine RPM (but
has less margin as the electrode erodes). A larger gap requires the
coil to produce more secondary voltage to jump the gap; a sports coil
may be required to produce a consistent spark. 12K miles on plugs is
fine in my experience--as long as the engine is in good nick--and they
can be cleaned and re-gapped at least once. Sandblasting is a no-no as
it will pit the ceramic insulator and can cause issues.

 I came across a YouTube video by David Vizard where he claims E3
Diamond 'Split Fire' plugs produced slightly better mileage; yep, E3
makes a plug for Big Healeys (6-cyl only, I think). I've heard rumors
that counterfeit NGK plugs are in the market.

	On 3/18/2023 9:49 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:   

	Here?s a can of worms that we haven?t delved into for a while?.


	So, I?m trying to get all my ducks in a row for a short run abroad.
Car is a MkII BT7 with a DW fast road cam, 3 HD6s, big bore 6 branch
and 123Ignition plus a so-called Sports Coil. 

	* I was looking through my library of files on Healey topics and saw
that we were all over the place on plug gaps?..all the way up to
0.035?. So what?s the opinion there??
 	* And which plug? Seemed to be mostly between NGK?s BP6ES & BP5ES.
Was a hold-out for their B8EGV 5627 but that was dismissed fairly
vigorously by Jeremy Welch as being way OTT for normal road use.
 	* And, I have 12,000 miles+++ as plug replacement mileage so long as
they still look and perform OK. Any thoughts?

	Thanks, Simon 

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From rfbegani at gmail.com  Tue Mar 21 07:06:19 2023
From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 09:06:19 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK,
 OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS
Message-ID: <007701d95bf5$edbc8350$c93589f0$@gmail.com>

I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.  However, I am
concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.  Have any
members of this group had any recent experience?

                                     

Bob Begani

 

 

 

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From britishauto at gmail.com  Tue Mar 21 08:18:48 2023
From: britishauto at gmail.com (Jake V)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 10:18:48 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK,
 OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS
In-Reply-To: <007701d95bf5$edbc8350$c93589f0$@gmail.com>
References: <007701d95bf5$edbc8350$c93589f0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAACo9bCCBWqQxcYLsikQkv4N7Famfq+LzgLOyckkV7_CGmF8-Q@mail.gmail.com>

I recently bought a large front shroud section from Cape.
Shipping to the US was pricey, no problems with customs.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 9:37?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.  However, I
> am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.  Have
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From airtightproductions at me.com  Tue Mar 21 09:29:50 2023
From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 15:29:50 -0000
Subject: [Healeys] 
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I imported parts from AH Spares and had no problems at all. In fact, I was very pleasantly surprised at the speed in which I received my parts. I just set up a wire transfer from my bank to theirs, paid the invoice and boom! The parts arrived safe and sound with no customs hassles.?And this was even in Covid times!?Steven KingsburyBN1On Mar 21, 2023, at 6:36 AM, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.? However, I am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.? Have any members of this group had any recent experience?????????????????????????????????????Bob Begani???_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation  $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com
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From manifold at telus.net  Tue Mar 21 09:40:04 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 08:40:04 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK,
 OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS
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Bob,

I have purchased many times from AH Spares with good results for both
quality and delivery. They normally ship DHL and there will be a
separate invoice from DHL for brokerage and local taxes where the parcel is
delivered. There is rarely any duty on parts for cars over 25 years old.
DHL will charge about a $15 brokerage fee. No need for you to contact DHL
they will find you.

The issue you will run into is DHL has a limited number of package sizes
and it pays to group your parts order to minimize the shipping cost. AH
Spares will quote the DHL shipping portion on their invoice but not the
local taxes and brokerage.

I have purchased from many Healey parts suppliers and would rank AH Spares
at or near the top. I trust this helps.

Harold

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 7:45?AM Jake V <britishauto at gmail.com> wrote:

> I recently bought a large front shroud section from Cape.
> Shipping to the US was pricey, no problems with customs.
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 9:37?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.  However, I
>> am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.  Have
>> any members of this group had any recent experience?
>>
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>>
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From einhornlawoffice at gmail.com  Tue Mar 21 10:47:54 2023
From: einhornlawoffice at gmail.com (Jonathan Einhorn)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 12:47:54 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK,
 OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS
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I recently purchased a lightweight transmission cover for my racecar
from AH Spares. It fit in a large box and the shipping was more than 1/2
the price of the part.

jon

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:06?AM Jake V <britishauto at gmail.com> wrote:

> I recently bought a large front shroud section from Cape.
> Shipping to the US was pricey, no problems with customs.
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 9:37?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.  However, I
>> am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.  Have
>> any members of this group had any recent experience?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Begani
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From einhornlawoffice at gmail.com  Tue Mar 21 10:48:29 2023
From: einhornlawoffice at gmail.com (Jonathan Einhorn)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 12:48:29 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK,
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I should say though, it arrived very quickly and no customs issues.

jon

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 12:47?PM Jonathan Einhorn <
einhornlawoffice at gmail.com> wrote:

> I recently purchased a lightweight transmission cover for my racecar
> from AH Spares. It fit in a large box and the shipping was more than 1/2
> the price of the part.
>
> jon
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:06?AM Jake V <britishauto at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I recently bought a large front shroud section from Cape.
>> Shipping to the US was pricey, no problems with customs.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 9:37?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.  However,
>>> I am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.
>>> Have any members of this group had any recent experience?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Begani
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From warthodson at aol.com  Tue Mar 21 15:06:57 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2023 21:06:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] 100 (BN1) pedal box conversion
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I am planning on converting my BN1 (LH drive) to a hydraulic clutch & a single circuit brake box, similar to the 6 Cyl. cars.I plan to install a Kilmartin structure to support the pedal box.??I would like to see some photographs of how others have done this. I am especially?interested in how the limited?clearance?between the factory style air filters & support structure has been solved.Gary Hodson
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From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au  Tue Mar 21 16:56:29 2023
From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 09:56:29 +1100
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK,
 OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS
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G'day

 

While I am of course in a different country I have been purchasing
Austin-Healey parts from AH Spares since 1973 when everything was done by
snail mail. Always dealt directly with Fred Draper who was a gentleman

 

Never had any problem. Even last year when they sent +60 pistons instead of
the +40 that I ordered, the new set was sent the very same day that I
advised them. AH Spares organised for the pickup of the incorrect set a week
or so later.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of
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Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:06 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK, OR OTHER UK
SUPPLIERS

 

I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.  However, I am
concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.  Have any
members of this group had any recent experience?

                                     

Bob Begani

 

 

 



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From cpcooper at ymail.com  Tue Mar 21 21:34:10 2023
From: cpcooper at ymail.com (Craig Cooper)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 03:34:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 16, Issue 60
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 UK Suppliers:
I have purchased from AH Spares, Ahead4Healeys, and Denis Welch, all with good results.? Parts from Ahead usually arrive (in CA) in 3 or 4 days.? Prices are generally less than US suppliers, but shipping can be expensive.? A couple of friends recently did a big order at Denis Welch, about $10K, and were shortly thereafter surprised with a bill from the state of CA for sales tax.? My orders are generally around $200, sail right through Customs, and I've never been asked to pay sales tax.?
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I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.? However, I am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.? Have any members of this group had any recent experience?

???????????????????????????????????? 

Bob Begani

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I recently bought a large front shroud section from Cape.Shipping to the US was pricey, no problems with customs.
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 9:37?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:


I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.? However, I am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.? Have any members of this group had any recent experience?

???????????????????????????????????? 

Bob Begani

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I imported parts from AH Spares and had no problems at all. In fact, I was very pleasantly surprised at the speed in which I received my parts. I just set up a wire transfer from my bank to theirs, paid the invoice and boom! The parts arrived safe and sound with no customs hassles.?

And this was even in Covid times!?

Steven Kingsbury
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I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.? However, I am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.? Have any members of this group had any recent experience?


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Bob,
I have purchased many times from AH Spares with good results for both quality and delivery. They normally ship DHL and there will be a separate?invoice from DHL for brokerage and local taxes where the parcel is delivered. There is rarely any duty on parts for cars over 25 years old. DHL will charge about a $15 brokerage fee. No need for you to contact DHL they will find you.
The issue you will run into is DHL has a limited number of package?sizes and it pays to group your parts order to minimize?the shipping cost. AH Spares will quote the DHL shipping portion on their invoice but not the local taxes and brokerage.
I have purchased from many Healey parts suppliers and would rank AH Spares at or near the top. I trust this helps.
Harold
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 7:45?AM Jake V <britishauto at gmail.com> wrote:

I recently bought a large front shroud section from Cape.Shipping to the US was pricey, no problems with customs.
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 9:37?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:


I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.? However, I am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.? Have any members of this group had any recent experience?

???????????????????????????????????? 

Bob Begani

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I recently purchased?a lightweight?transmission cover for my?racecar from?AH Spares. It fit in a large box and the shipping was more than 1/2 the price of the part.
jon
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:06?AM Jake V <britishauto at gmail.com> wrote:

I recently bought a large front shroud section from Cape.Shipping to the US was pricey, no problems with customs.
On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 9:37?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:


I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.? However, I am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.? Have any members of this group had any recent experience?

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cell: 203-623-7373I should say though, it arrived very quickly and no customs issues.
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I recently purchased?a lightweight?transmission cover for my?racecar from?AH Spares. It fit in a large box and the shipping was more than 1/2 the price of the part.
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I recently bought a large front shroud section from Cape.Shipping to the US was pricey, no problems with customs.
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I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.? However, I am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.? Have any members of this group had any recent experience?

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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Tue Mar 21 23:06:23 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:06:23 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK,
 OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS
In-Reply-To: <006701d95c48$5fac7a40$1f056ec0$@tpg.com.au>
References: <007701d95bf5$edbc8350$c93589f0$@gmail.com>
 <006701d95c48$5fac7a40$1f056ec0$@tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTkLBD64fsW14+kxvLX-8HEcpLtKCMi6ZrQ7xmucc9ZGh2g@mail.gmail.com>

Patrick -

Did you order their BN3 parts catalogue?

Cheers,

Alan


On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 7:12 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> G?day
>
>
>
> While I am of course in a different country I have been purchasing
> Austin-Healey parts from AH Spares since 1973 when everything was done by
> snail mail. Always dealt directly with Fred Draper who was a gentleman
>
>
>
> Never had any problem. Even last year when they sent +60 pistons instead
> of the +40 that I ordered, the new set was sent the very same day that I
> advised them. AH Spares organised for the pickup of the incorrect set a
> week or so later.
>
>
>
> Hoo Roo
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *
> rfbegani at gmail.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:06 AM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK, OR OTHER UK
> SUPPLIERS
>
>
>
> I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.  However, I
> am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.  Have
> any members of this group had any recent experience?
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au  Tue Mar 21 23:59:34 2023
From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:59:34 +1100
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK,
 OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS
In-Reply-To: <CAFBXTkLBD64fsW14+kxvLX-8HEcpLtKCMi6ZrQ7xmucc9ZGh2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <007701d95bf5$edbc8350$c93589f0$@gmail.com>
 <006701d95c48$5fac7a40$1f056ec0$@tpg.com.au>
 <CAFBXTkLBD64fsW14+kxvLX-8HEcpLtKCMi6ZrQ7xmucc9ZGh2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001d01d95c83$7a7e77c0$6f7b6740$@tpg.com.au>

Hello Alan

 

I sent the cattledog to them. All my orders have included a mix of 100 and 100/6 parts. Then when I bought a new clutch, it was for a BJ8.

 

Always fun.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

 

From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 4:06 PM
To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; rfbegani at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK, OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS

 

Patrick -

 

Did you order their BN3 parts catalogue?

 

Cheers,

 

Alan

 

 

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 7:12 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

G?day

 

While I am of course in a different country I have been purchasing Austin-Healey parts from AH Spares since 1973 when everything was done by snail mail. Always dealt directly with Fred Draper who was a gentleman

 

Never had any problem. Even last year when they sent +60 pistons instead of the +40 that I ordered, the new set was sent the very same day that I advised them. AH Spares organised for the pickup of the incorrect set a week or so later.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:06 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK, OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS

 

I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.  However, I am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.  Have any members of this group had any recent experience?

                                     

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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Wed Mar 22 00:30:48 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 14:30:48 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK,
 OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS
In-Reply-To: <001d01d95c83$7a7e77c0$6f7b6740$@tpg.com.au>
References: <007701d95bf5$edbc8350$c93589f0$@gmail.com>
 <006701d95c48$5fac7a40$1f056ec0$@tpg.com.au>
 <CAFBXTkLBD64fsW14+kxvLX-8HEcpLtKCMi6ZrQ7xmucc9ZGh2g@mail.gmail.com>
 <001d01d95c83$7a7e77c0$6f7b6740$@tpg.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTkKppjznEAx4WfBuyptE56DBQ4VZdo00mJSzN5SK6-=sHQ@mail.gmail.com>

Patrick -

Sounds like my mate in uni who had a beautiful BSA with a Triumph front
wheel!  TSK TSK.

Cheers,

Alan

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 1:59?PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn <
p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> wrote:

> Hello Alan
>
>
>
> I sent the cattledog to them. All my orders have included a mix of 100 and
> 100/6 parts. Then when I bought a new clutch, it was for a BJ8.
>
>
>
> Always fun.
>
>
>
> Hoo Roo
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
>
>
> *From:* Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 4:06 PM
> *To:* Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net; rfbegani at gmail.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK, OR OTHER
> UK SUPPLIERS
>
>
>
> Patrick -
>
>
>
> Did you order their BN3 parts catalogue?
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 7:12 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> G?day
>
>
>
> While I am of course in a different country I have been purchasing
> Austin-Healey parts from AH Spares since 1973 when everything was done by
> snail mail. Always dealt directly with Fred Draper who was a gentleman
>
>
>
> Never had any problem. Even last year when they sent +60 pistons instead
> of the +40 that I ordered, the new set was sent the very same day that I
> advised them. AH Spares organised for the pickup of the incorrect set a
> week or so later.
>
>
>
> Hoo Roo
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *
> rfbegani at gmail.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:06 AM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK, OR OTHER UK
> SUPPLIERS
>
>
>
> I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.  However, I
> am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.  Have
> any members of this group had any recent experience?
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From p_cquinn at tpg.com.au  Wed Mar 22 04:17:58 2023
From: p_cquinn at tpg.com.au (Patrick & Caroline Quinn)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 21:17:58 +1100
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK,
 OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS
In-Reply-To: <CAFBXTkKppjznEAx4WfBuyptE56DBQ4VZdo00mJSzN5SK6-=sHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <007701d95bf5$edbc8350$c93589f0$@gmail.com>
 <006701d95c48$5fac7a40$1f056ec0$@tpg.com.au>
 <CAFBXTkLBD64fsW14+kxvLX-8HEcpLtKCMi6ZrQ7xmucc9ZGh2g@mail.gmail.com>
 <001d01d95c83$7a7e77c0$6f7b6740$@tpg.com.au>
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Message-ID: <000c01d95ca7$93a99a80$bafccf80$@tpg.com.au>

Hello Alan

 

If you?re used to production Austin-Healeys you will find the BN3 a challenge and very interesting.

 

There are components from a number of differing Austin cars and parts clearly made by using tin snips and a big hammer. 

 

For instance, last Sunday I spent five hours refitting the radiator, which surely after squeezing a six-cylinder engine through a 100 bonnet opening, is the second most difficult job with the car. It is not a standard 100 or 100/6-3000 radiator, but actually the same as fitted to my Healey Duncan Saloon complete with bottom brackets for bolting to the chassis. The radiator itself fits tightly between two vertical uprights beneath the front shroud. There are no cross braces. A suitable rubber hammer along with a shaped piece of wood. Don?t know how many Austin-Healeys need to have the front wheels removed to fit the radiator.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

 

From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 5:31 PM
To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn at tpg.com.au>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net; rfbegani at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK, OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS

 

Patrick -

Sounds like my mate in uni who had a beautiful BSA with a Triumph front wheel!  TSK TSK.

Cheers,

 

Alan

 

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 1:59?PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn at tpg.com.au <mailto:p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> > wrote:

Hello Alan

 

I sent the cattledog to them. All my orders have included a mix of 100 and 100/6 parts. Then when I bought a new clutch, it was for a BJ8.

 

Always fun.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

 

From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com <mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 4:06 PM
To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn at tpg.com.au <mailto:p_cquinn at tpg.com.au> >
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> ; rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK, OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS

 

Patrick -

 

Did you order their BN3 parts catalogue?

 

Cheers,

 

Alan

 

 

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 7:12 AM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

G?day

 

While I am of course in a different country I have been purchasing Austin-Healey parts from AH Spares since 1973 when everything was done by snail mail. Always dealt directly with Fred Draper who was a gentleman

 

Never had any problem. Even last year when they sent +60 pistons instead of the +40 that I ordered, the new set was sent the very same day that I advised them. AH Spares organised for the pickup of the incorrect set a week or so later.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2023 12:06 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK, OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS

 

I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.  However, I am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.  Have any members of this group had any recent experience?

                                     

Bob Begani

 

 

 

 


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From warthodson at aol.com  Wed Mar 22 07:56:30 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:56:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] 100 (BN1) brake bleeding technique
References: <2037408996.72668.1679493390077.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Some have suggested opening the bleed screw, pushing the pedal down slowly, closing the bleed screw & letting the pedal return.?Others suggest a similar approach except a very rapid pedal push down, almost violent, like an emergency stop.?Does either help to dislodge stubborn bubbles trapped in the 100 brake system?Gary Hodson
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Wed Mar 22 08:10:08 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 07:10:08 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Import Healey parts from AH SPARES UK,
 OR OTHER UK SUPPLIERS
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When I restored my car, I sourced parts from all over the world . I had to
figure in part cost and shipping. Sometimes a cheaper part was more
expensive because of shipping fees. Plus delays in clearing customs. Do
your research.

Ira Erbs

On Tue, Mar 21, 2023, 6:38 AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am considering importing from AH SPARES part for my Healey.  However, I
> am concerned about the problem of going through customs and the cost.  Have
> any members of this group had any recent experience?
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
>
>
>
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From emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Mar 22 21:03:42 2023
From: emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk (David Lodge)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 03:03:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive.
References: <571827550.5907258.1679540622089.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <571827550.5907258.1679540622089@mail.yahoo.com>

O.K.? Enough head-scratching and ransacking the internet and archives!
Does anyone please know of a way to pull the bearing off the thrust-ring without Special Tool 120 or whatever it is?
Ta everso in advance!
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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Thu Mar 23 00:45:10 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 14:45:10 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] 100 (BN1) brake bleeding technique
In-Reply-To: <2037408996.72668.1679493390077@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2037408996.72668.1679493390077.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2037408996.72668.1679493390077@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTkJXXdxd9Evj+u8Ab0BBHSUkkuup+qDa2ys_g-SZQOoW3g@mail.gmail.com>

Gary -

The method that seems to work the best, after bleeding out the system the
best you can, is to shove a 2 x 4 between the seat frame and brake pedal,
pushing it down with some pressure, then leaving it like that overnight.

Cheers,

Alan

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:25?PM warthodson--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Some have suggested opening the bleed screw, pushing the pedal down
> slowly, closing the bleed screw & letting the pedal return. Others
> suggest a similar approach except a very rapid pedal push down, almost
> violent, like an emergency stop.
> Does either help to dislodge stubborn bubbles trapped in the 100 brake
> system?
> Gary Hodson
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From warthodson at aol.com  Thu Mar 23 07:32:37 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 13:32:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] 100 (BN1) brake bleeding technique
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References: <2037408996.72668.1679493390077.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2037408996.72668.1679493390077@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAFBXTkJXXdxd9Evj+u8Ab0BBHSUkkuup+qDa2ys_g-SZQOoW3g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1267070852.3618359.1679578357850@mail.yahoo.com>

We tried that. I did not work.


-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>
To: warthodson at aol.com
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Mar 23, 2023 1:45 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 (BN1) brake bleeding technique

Gary -
The method that seems to work the best, after bleeding out the system the best you can, is to shove a 2 x 4 between the seat frame and brake pedal, pushing it down with some pressure, then leaving it like that overnight.
Cheers,

Alan
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:25?PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Some have suggested opening the bleed screw, pushing the pedal down slowly, closing the bleed screw & letting the pedal return.?Others suggest a similar approach except a very rapid pedal push down, almost violent, like an emergency stop.?Does either help to dislodge stubborn bubbles trapped in the 100 brake system?Gary Hodson_______________________________________________
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From healeyguy at aol.com  Thu Mar 23 09:24:53 2023
From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 11:24:53 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Moving Day
References: <944D6010-286B-4993-96FD-A63F9CF3D470.ref@aol.com>
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Listers
Caught this photo this morning as we loaded the old girls in the trailer for a ride to our new home. Relocating to Conway South Carolina from our home town in western PA. 
The new adventure to a warmer clime begins again. 
Looks like there are lots of British car activities down south. Should be fun. 
Perry

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From britfan1 at epix.net  Thu Mar 23 15:31:04 2023
From: britfan1 at epix.net (S.Carr)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 17:31:04 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Moving Day
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Message-ID: <2128174186.400839.1679607066427@epix.net>

Sorry to see you leave PA, but wishing you all the best in your new life down South!
Sarah Carr
Ex-BN1 in PA

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Perry Small via Healeys
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From sbyers at ec.rr.com  Thu Mar 23 15:48:21 2023
From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys)
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2023 17:48:21 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Moving Day
In-Reply-To: <944D6010-286B-4993-96FD-A63F9CF3D470@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <023401d95dd1$3011c800$90355800$@rr.com>

Welcome to the South, Perry!  
I got my first speeding ticket in Conway in 1964.  But I had a very good
excuse:  I was on my way to Myrtle Beach!

Steve Byers
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Perry
Small via Healeys
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2023 11:25 AM
To: Healeys
Subject: [Healeys] Moving Day

Listers
Caught this photo this morning as we loaded the old girls in the trailer for
a ride to our new home. Relocating to Conway South Carolina from our home
town in western PA. 
The new adventure to a warmer clime begins again. 
Looks like there are lots of British car activities down south. Should be
fun. 
Perry



From healey.nut at gmail.com  Thu Mar 23 20:12:10 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 10:12:10 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] 100 (BN1) brake bleeding technique
In-Reply-To: <1267070852.3618359.1679578357850@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2037408996.72668.1679493390077.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2037408996.72668.1679493390077@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAFBXTkJXXdxd9Evj+u8Ab0BBHSUkkuup+qDa2ys_g-SZQOoW3g@mail.gmail.com>
 <1267070852.3618359.1679578357850@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTkLrzD31dp5T3SP0fBkjnE_qwvMLXVxaR7emdp1Ce7cuRg@mail.gmail.com>

The weird thing for me is when I let the car sit for a month, it sorted
itself out.

On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 9:32?PM <warthodson at aol.com> wrote:

> We tried that. I did not work.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>
> To: warthodson at aol.com
> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Mar 23, 2023 1:45 am
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 (BN1) brake bleeding technique
>
> Gary -
>
> The method that seems to work the best, after bleeding out the system the
> best you can, is to shove a 2 x 4 between the seat frame and brake pedal,
> pushing it down with some pressure, then leaving it like that overnight.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:25?PM warthodson--- via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Some have suggested opening the bleed screw, pushing the pedal down
> slowly, closing the bleed screw & letting the pedal return. Others
> suggest a similar approach except a very rapid pedal push down, almost
> violent, like an emergency stop.
> Does either help to dislodge stubborn bubbles trapped in the 100 brake
> system?
> Gary Hodson
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From emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk  Thu Mar 23 20:32:38 2023
From: emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk (David Lodge)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 02:32:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] A-H 100.
References: <816450999.21666.1679625158378.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <816450999.21666.1679625158378@mail.yahoo.com>

Don't know anything about this bloke, but I saw this on my fortnightly Craigslist perusal!1955 Austin Healey 100 BN1 - auto parts - by owner - vehicle...

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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Fri Mar 24 01:33:14 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 20:33:14 +1300
Subject: [Healeys] 100 (BN1) brake bleeding technique
In-Reply-To: <CAFBXTkLrzD31dp5T3SP0fBkjnE_qwvMLXVxaR7emdp1Ce7cuRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2037408996.72668.1679493390077.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2037408996.72668.1679493390077@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAFBXTkJXXdxd9Evj+u8Ab0BBHSUkkuup+qDa2ys_g-SZQOoW3g@mail.gmail.com>
 <1267070852.3618359.1679578357850@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAFBXTkLrzD31dp5T3SP0fBkjnE_qwvMLXVxaR7emdp1Ce7cuRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LLT3vzSh8QWmobrK+Z4ZoKxmSjgFAhmdiKXCDQ-9sY+Rg@mail.gmail.com>

Micro bubbles.

On Fri., Mar. 24, 2023, 5:39 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <healey.nut at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The weird thing for me is when I let the car sit for a month, it sorted
> itself out.
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 9:32?PM <warthodson at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> We tried that. I did not work.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>
>> To: warthodson at aol.com
>> Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Thu, Mar 23, 2023 1:45 am
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 (BN1) brake bleeding technique
>>
>> Gary -
>>
>> The method that seems to work the best, after bleeding out the system the
>> best you can, is to shove a 2 x 4 between the seat frame and brake pedal,
>> pushing it down with some pressure, then leaving it like that overnight.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:25?PM warthodson--- via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Some have suggested opening the bleed screw, pushing the pedal down
>> slowly, closing the bleed screw & letting the pedal return. Others
>> suggest a similar approach except a very rapid pedal push down, almost
>> violent, like an emergency stop.
>> Does either help to dislodge stubborn bubbles trapped in the 100 brake
>> system?
>> Gary Hodson
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From warthodson at aol.com  Fri Mar 24 08:01:33 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 14:01:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] 100 (BN1) brake bleeding technique
In-Reply-To: <CAB3i7LLT3vzSh8QWmobrK+Z4ZoKxmSjgFAhmdiKXCDQ-9sY+Rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2037408996.72668.1679493390077.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2037408996.72668.1679493390077@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAFBXTkJXXdxd9Evj+u8Ab0BBHSUkkuup+qDa2ys_g-SZQOoW3g@mail.gmail.com>
 <1267070852.3618359.1679578357850@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAFBXTkLrzD31dp5T3SP0fBkjnE_qwvMLXVxaR7emdp1Ce7cuRg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAB3i7LLT3vzSh8QWmobrK+Z4ZoKxmSjgFAhmdiKXCDQ-9sY+Rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1390975742.172238.1679666493432@mail.yahoo.com>

There would have to be a path (leak(s)) for the "micro bubbles" to escape the hydraulic system. Bubbles will not migrate down, only up. Seems like the micro bubbles would end up trapped?at the nearest high points in the system.
Or the system has a lot of leaks at the high points.Gary H
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>
Cc: warthodson at aol.com; healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 2:33 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 (BN1) brake bleeding technique

Micro bubbles.
On Fri., Mar. 24, 2023, 5:39 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <healey.nut at gmail.com> wrote:

The weird thing for me is when I let the car sit for a month, it sorted itself out.
On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 9:32?PM <warthodson at aol.com> wrote:

We tried that. I did not work.


-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>
To: warthodson at aol.com
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Mar 23, 2023 1:45 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 (BN1) brake bleeding technique

Gary -
The method that seems to work the best, after bleeding out the system the best you can, is to shove a 2 x 4 between the seat frame and brake pedal, pushing it down with some pressure, then leaving it like that overnight.
Cheers,

Alan
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 10:25?PM warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Some have suggested opening the bleed screw, pushing the pedal down slowly, closing the bleed screw & letting the pedal return.?Others suggest a similar approach except a very rapid pedal push down, almost violent, like an emergency stop.?Does either help to dislodge stubborn bubbles trapped in the 100 brake system?Gary Hodson_______________________________________________
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 24 08:57:45 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 07:57:45 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Moving Day
In-Reply-To: <944D6010-286B-4993-96FD-A63F9CF3D470@aol.com>
References: <944D6010-286B-4993-96FD-A63F9CF3D470.ref@aol.com>
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Message-ID: <CABXhz89_tjauCn40p3WA4Q5cQy+7jUyorSKwiqXhBe36YG+2bQ@mail.gmail.com>

Safe travels. Martin told me about yout move. We have hriends in Aiken,
SC, sobwe hope to drop in some day for a visit

Ira Erbs

On Thu, Mar 23, 2023, 10:17 AM Perry Small via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Listers
> Caught this photo this morning as we loaded the old girls in the trailer
> for a ride to our new home. Relocating to Conway South Carolina from our
> home town in western PA.
> The new adventure to a warmer clime begins again.
> Looks like there are lots of British car activities down south. Should be
> fun.
> Perry
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone_______________________________________________
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From kentmclean at comcast.net  Fri Mar 24 16:11:05 2023
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 18:11:05 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Moving Day
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1679680801.22864.healeys@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1.1679680801.22864.healeys@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <0947CD79-1CC6-48D4-ABE5-4DC5073A2CE2@comcast.net>

Steve Byers wrote:
> Welcome to the South, Perry!  
> I got my first speeding ticket in Conway in 1964.  But I had a very good
> excuse:  I was on my way to Myrtle Beach!

Now that's funny.  

- Kent, with family in Longs
  56 BN2, 60 Bugeye


From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Sun Mar 26 12:49:36 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2023 19:49:36 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Distributor Swap
Message-ID: <000301d96013$b79c76f0$26d564d0$@alexarevel.plus.com>

I should probably be able to work this out for myself, but - just to be sure
- I'm asking the experts.

Talking about a Lucas DM6a in a MkII BT7. And a 123 alternative.

 

So, I have a 123 installed in the car and a Lucas DM6A, complete with
Pertronix, in the boot. (Trunk!) Yes, both distributors have the correct
"Drive dog(?)" on the bottom. (Part 25 in the attached pic).

Thus, it is mechanically possible to remove the 123 and drop in the Lucas in
its place.

 

My question is this..if I manage to accomplish this without messing up the
timing ie rotating the distributors in the clamp, will everything line up
and the engine fire up?? I hope that the Drive dog will/can only slot into
one position and that will be the one and only correct position. If you see
what I mean?

 

I hope to be able to carry the Lucas as a spare "get you home" and,
likewise, hope that it's a  straight swap without having to frig around with
the timing.

 

Am I correct? It'll be a straightforward swap or will it turn into a
complicated roadside tune-up??

 

Thanks,

Simon

 

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From manifold at telus.net  Sun Mar 26 15:10:32 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2023 14:10:32 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Distributor Swap
In-Reply-To: <000301d96013$b79c76f0$26d564d0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000301d96013$b79c76f0$26d564d0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCD3xaOU=MZG9P0xwV_db+-DUPVA5xNiX-PF=OGN4YwbOQ@mail.gmail.com>

Simon,

I think the answer is "it depends". I changed my Lucas DM6A to a 123 when I
restored my car as the Lucas distributor was being used as a blender for
small parts that had fallen down into the weights over the years.

I wanted the distributor cap and plug wires to be in the approximate same
position as the Lucas DM6A so it looks the same at first glance and the
routing of the plug wires is close to original. The only way I could do
this was to change the position of the distributor drive gear with respect
to the cam until it would line up with the drive dog on the bottom of the
123. If I put the DM6A back in the car the timing would be way off. If the
hole for the drive dog peg was in the same position relative to the
position of the rotor on the 123 as the DM6A then they should be
interchangeable.

If you don't move the drive gear when you set up the 123 then the DM6A
should go back. The issue you may have is the plug wires don't look very
tidy with the 123. If the rotor is pointing at the same cylinder, even
though it may be in a different position, for both distributors then it
should work. Pack your timing light as well.

Harold




On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 12:57?PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I should probably be able to work this out for myself, but ? just to be
> sure ? I?m asking the experts.
>
> Talking about a Lucas DM6a in a MkII BT7. And a 123 alternative.
>
>
>
> So, I have a 123 installed in the car and a Lucas DM6A, complete with
> Pertronix, in the boot. (Trunk!) Yes, both distributors have the correct
> ?Drive dog(?)? on the bottom. (Part 25 in the attached pic).
>
> Thus, it is mechanically possible to remove the 123 and drop in the Lucas
> in its place.
>
>
>
> My question is this??if I manage to accomplish this without messing up the
> timing ie rotating the distributors in the clamp, will everything line up
> and the engine fire up?? I hope that the Drive dog will/can only slot into
> one position and that will be the one and only correct position. If you see
> what I mean?
>
>
>
> I hope to be able to carry the Lucas as a spare ?get you home? and,
> likewise, hope that it?s a  straight swap without having to frig around
> with the timing.
>
>
>
> Am I correct? It?ll be a straightforward swap or will it turn into a
> complicated roadside tune-up??
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 27 14:25:35 2023
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 13:25:35 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] British Tool and Fasteners - Misrepresention
Message-ID: <15851C1D-08B4-4851-82E5-05C070BF25A3@gmail.com>

Just bought a ?Whitworth" thread pitch gauge from British Tool because I?ve begun to restore a BN1 and I need to confirm the 55 degree thread pitch angle on the Whitworth bolts.

It turns out that British Tool and Fasteners thread pitch gauge is not actually Whitworth, even though they say it is. And even though the owner, Jon Caswell, knows it is not the 55 degree angle that it is represented to be, he seems to think that is OK and doesn?t think he should reimburse me for any of the shipping, even one way.

Check out these photos comparing an American pitch gauge, 60 degree angle, to his ?Whitworth? 55 degree angle guage. 
  
Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com


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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Mon Mar 27 18:09:18 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:09:18 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] British Tool and Fasteners - Misrepresention
In-Reply-To: <15851C1D-08B4-4851-82E5-05C070BF25A3@gmail.com>
References: <15851C1D-08B4-4851-82E5-05C070BF25A3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTkKFRduNNhnnAR+cJO2FXAt-G-dhOmyWJjZL-L22pAmqjQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Richard -

The 16 written on the blade means the Threads Per Inch, which will always
be the same regardless of the pitch angle.  So in this case, a 3/8"
Whitworth bolt will be 55 deg w/ 16 TPI,  and a 3/8" UNC bolt will be 60
deg w/ 16 TPI.  So when you put the sawtooth together like this, it will
mesh.

That said, the tooth shape is a little different so if you hold that up to
the light you will see gaps between the sawtooth.  This is how you can tell
with a thread guage if it is UNC or BSW, hold the bolt and sawtooth to the
light and if you see gaps in the thread, its not a match, even if it does
mesh together.

Best,

Alan



On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 4:48?AM richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just bought a ?Whitworth" thread pitch gauge from British Tool because
> I?ve begun to restore a BN1 and I need to confirm the 55 degree thread
> pitch angle on the Whitworth bolts.
>
> It turns out that British Tool and Fasteners thread pitch gauge is not
> actually Whitworth, even though they say it is. And even though the owner,
> Jon Caswell, knows it is not the 55 degree angle that it is represented to
> be, he seems to think that is OK and doesn?t think he should reimburse me
> for any of the shipping, even one way.
>
> Check out these photos comparing an American pitch gauge, 60 degree angle,
> to his ?Whitworth? 55 degree angle guage.
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
> [image: IMG_1173.jpeg][image: IMG_1171.jpeg]
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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Mon Mar 27 22:22:14 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 12:22:14 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] Distributor Swap
In-Reply-To: <000301d96013$b79c76f0$26d564d0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000301d96013$b79c76f0$26d564d0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTkJofY1m01rb5PjsmzdNk9ov_vLVquyj=pmnnwHfeDRb+A@mail.gmail.com>

Simon -

You'll need to do a roadside timing.  With contacts, it's easy because you
can twist the dizzy until you see the contacts open at TDC, then start the
car and advance the dizzy a bit until you get smooth running.  Usually
that's pretty accurate to within a couple degrees.

Since you have a pertronix, I would recommend fitting the dizzy first and
using a timing gun figure out where it's supposed to be, then make a mark
at the bottom of the dizzy with a permanent marker so that you can just pop
it in the right spot if you ever get in trouble.

Best,

Alan

On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 4:04?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I should probably be able to work this out for myself, but ? just to be
> sure ? I?m asking the experts.
>
> Talking about a Lucas DM6a in a MkII BT7. And a 123 alternative.
>
>
>
> So, I have a 123 installed in the car and a Lucas DM6A, complete with
> Pertronix, in the boot. (Trunk!) Yes, both distributors have the correct
> ?Drive dog(?)? on the bottom. (Part 25 in the attached pic).
>
> Thus, it is mechanically possible to remove the 123 and drop in the Lucas
> in its place.
>
>
>
> My question is this??if I manage to accomplish this without messing up the
> timing ie rotating the distributors in the clamp, will everything line up
> and the engine fire up?? I hope that the Drive dog will/can only slot into
> one position and that will be the one and only correct position. If you see
> what I mean?
>
>
>
> I hope to be able to carry the Lucas as a spare ?get you home? and,
> likewise, hope that it?s a  straight swap without having to frig around
> with the timing.
>
>
>
> Am I correct? It?ll be a straightforward swap or will it turn into a
> complicated roadside tune-up??
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Tue Mar 28 00:13:21 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:13:21 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] British Tool and Fasteners - Misrepresention
In-Reply-To: <CAFBXTkKFRduNNhnnAR+cJO2FXAt-G-dhOmyWJjZL-L22pAmqjQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <15851C1D-08B4-4851-82E5-05C070BF25A3@gmail.com>
 <CAFBXTkKFRduNNhnnAR+cJO2FXAt-G-dhOmyWJjZL-L22pAmqjQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTk+Tt_a+NeAyVVoGGe2zB8xT6o7ZNYr3Ma=66-ueH6JbUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Richard -

Incidentally, there is only one Whitworth bolt on a BN1 as far as I'm aware
- on the Dynamo adjustment bracket.

Bolts and nuts on a BN1 are generally easy to identify  - anything on the
drivetrain will be BSF, and anything on the chassis will be UNF (SAE
Fine).

Anything on the carbs or instruments will be BA, except for the fuel line
which generally BSP (if I am not mistaken).

Best,

Alan

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 8:09?AM Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Richard -
>
> The 16 written on the blade means the Threads Per Inch, which will always
> be the same regardless of the pitch angle.  So in this case, a 3/8"
> Whitworth bolt will be 55 deg w/ 16 TPI,  and a 3/8" UNC bolt will be 60
> deg w/ 16 TPI.  So when you put the sawtooth together like this, it will
> mesh.
>
> That said, the tooth shape is a little different so if you hold that up to
> the light you will see gaps between the sawtooth.  This is how you can tell
> with a thread guage if it is UNC or BSW, hold the bolt and sawtooth to the
> light and if you see gaps in the thread, its not a match, even if it does
> mesh together.
>
> Best,
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 4:48?AM richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Just bought a ?Whitworth" thread pitch gauge from British Tool because
>> I?ve begun to restore a BN1 and I need to confirm the 55 degree thread
>> pitch angle on the Whitworth bolts.
>>
>> It turns out that British Tool and Fasteners thread pitch gauge is not
>> actually Whitworth, even though they say it is. And even though the owner,
>> Jon Caswell, knows it is not the 55 degree angle that it is represented to
>> be, he seems to think that is OK and doesn?t think he should reimburse me
>> for any of the shipping, even one way.
>>
>> Check out these photos comparing an American pitch gauge, 60 degree
>> angle, to his ?Whitworth? 55 degree angle guage.
>>
>> Richard Mayor
>> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_1173.jpeg][image: IMG_1171.jpeg]
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From Norman.Hendry at shaw.ca  Thu Mar 30 15:46:32 2023
From: Norman.Hendry at shaw.ca (Norman Hendry)
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2023 15:46:32 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] Engine ID Plate
Message-ID: <FF4E7041810D4F388854B8C06D079C22@NormanPC>

The engine rebuild for the BJ8 is almost completed and due to damage/corrosion I need to replace the Engine ID plate. Years ago I got a plate from Todd Clarke at Clarke Spares and Restorations and since he is unfortunately no longer with us I was wondering if anyone knew where to get replacement plates with the correct embossing.

Thank you

Norman

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From sbyers at ec.rr.com  Fri Mar 31 04:45:01 2023
From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (BJ8Healeys)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 06:45:01 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Engine ID Plate
In-Reply-To: <FF4E7041810D4F388854B8C06D079C22@NormanPC>
References: <FF4E7041810D4F388854B8C06D079C22@NormanPC>
Message-ID: <001101d963bd$d913e9f0$8b3bbdd0$@rr.com>

Norman, Todd Clarke has made many reproduction plates for BJ8 owners over
the years after the BJ8 Registry helped them to get the identity of their
cars officially corrected by the vehicle registration authorities after they
were found to be incorrect.  I've seen a lot of repro plates that were so
far from the original look to be obvious, and Todd was the only source I
know of who could make them look original.  His passing is a real loss for
all of us.

As far as I've heard, there are no plans for anyone to take over the
business and equipment, but perhaps that will change.  I'm afraid I do not
know of an alternate source to stamp new plates properly at this time.

Good luck with it, and let us all know if you do locate a new source.

 

Steve Byers

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC  USA

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Norman
Hendry
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 5:47 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Engine ID Plate

 

The engine rebuild for the BJ8 is almost completed and due to
damage/corrosion I need to replace the Engine ID plate. Years ago I got a
plate from Todd Clarke at Clarke Spares and Restorations and since he is
unfortunately no longer with us I was wondering if anyone knew where to get
replacement plates with the correct embossing.

 

Thank you

 

Norman

 


 
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From roggrace at telus.net  Fri Mar 31 09:02:57 2023
From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 08:02:57 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] GB drain plug
Message-ID: <CALPtYiNKgYT=maziqJphi8vyycu=83BzETyknOpiJDim0CXj5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Could someone please confirm if the transmission drain plug on a BJ8 is
1/2-14 NPT or 1/2-14 BSPT  ?
Struggling with a leak and want to use the correct tap to clean it out.
They are very similar to look at and difficult to distinguish.
Tkx
rg
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From bgdrab at redzone.ca  Fri Mar 31 13:18:51 2023
From: bgdrab at redzone.ca (Brian Drab)
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2023 19:18:51 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Manifold nut torque specs.
Message-ID: <YT3P288MB02868D9418F1025965CC9ED0AB8F9@YT3P288MB0286.CANP288.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I'm getting ready to reassemble my engine (BJ8) after a valve grind. Does anyone know if there are torque settings for the manifolds. They use brass nuts and I imagine they would strip easily if over done. There is nothing listed in the specs section of the shop manual.
Thanks
Brian Drab
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