From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Sun Oct  1 01:33:11 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 08:33:11 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Solder joints
Message-ID: <000001d9f439$88fb8b00$9af2a100$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?

I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like they'd make a
pretty decent joint if they're as good as they're cracked up to be. Not very
original in their appearance but sound enough?? 
Touch wood, I don't have many (any?) connections to make in the 3000, but
for general use?
Simon

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From ryan at jimryan.com  Sun Oct  1 07:01:00 2023
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 09:01:00 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Solder joints
In-Reply-To: <000001d9f439$88fb8b00$9af2a100$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000001d9f439$88fb8b00$9af2a100$@alexarevel.plus.com>
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Simon,

I didn't see a link or attachment.

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?
>
> I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like they?d make a
> pretty decent joint if they?re as good as they?re cracked up to be. Not
> very original in their appearance but sound enough??
> Touch wood, I don?t have many (any?) connections to make in the 3000, but
> for general use?
> Simon
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Sun Oct  1 08:46:50 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 15:46:50 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Solder joints
In-Reply-To: <CAEajuYxYF2MoLg68pc7qgEDA-TVvY2kZVn_ms64ndH7bcrW5fQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d9f439$88fb8b00$9af2a100$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <CAEajuYxYF2MoLg68pc7qgEDA-TVvY2kZVn_ms64ndH7bcrW5fQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601d9f476$1fcedff0$5f6c9fd0$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Ah, yes. Good point!

200PCs Solderstick Waterproof Solder Wire Connector Kit Original Connector Tools | eBay <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404496927584> 

 

 

 

From: Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com> 
Sent: 01 October 2023 14:01
To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Solder joints

 

Simon,

 

I didn't see a link or attachment.

 

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?

I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like they?d make a pretty decent joint if they?re as good as they?re cracked up to be. Not very original in their appearance but sound enough?? 
Touch wood, I don?t have many (any?) connections to make in the 3000, but for general use?
Simon

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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 10:14:49 2023
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 09:14:49 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Solder joints
In-Reply-To: <000601d9f476$1fcedff0$5f6c9fd0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000001d9f439$88fb8b00$9af2a100$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <CAEajuYxYF2MoLg68pc7qgEDA-TVvY2kZVn_ms64ndH7bcrW5fQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1424cb00-f2e4-010c-a7a3-0025917b9bea@comcast.net>

I've never used these--in fact, this is the first I've heard of 
them--but, of course, that never stopped me from having an opinion or 
two. My 'hot take' (heh):

1) there may be solder formulations that a heat gun could melt, but 
calling this 'solder' seems to be a mis-characterization: the 'fine 
print' says it's 'hot melt adhesive.' I didn't see anything about its 
conductivity, nor it's strength (though the shrink wrap part would be 
reinforcing).

2) when I was maintaining my own aircraft, I subscribed to a magazine 
called 'Light Plane Maintenance.' It didn't take any advertising, and 
never shied away from 'calling it like it is.' They did exhaustive 
research and experimentation on the benefit/risk of solder joints vs. 
crimp joints and came to the conclusion that crimping was superior to 
soldering (and easier, to boot). But, it has to be done properly; e.g.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIfoSSmlQR8

3) I only see them as being used for splices; apparently, you still need 
to employ crimping or soldering for terminals (loop, spade, etc.). I'd 
prefer all my wiring to be consistent.

4) the advert claims they are 'waterproof;' that, I think, is a stretch. 
Most similar ads only claim 'water resistant' (for liability, I suspect; 
water will eventually get into almost everything).

5) for most solder joints you want to twist the bare ends together; that 
doesn't seem possible with these.

So, no dice for me.

bs



On 10/1/2023 7:46 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> Ah, yes. Good point!
>
> 200PCs Solderstick Waterproof Solder Wire Connector Kit Original 
> Connector Tools | eBay <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404496927584>
>
> *From:*Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com>
> *Sent:* 01 October 2023 14:01
> *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Solder joints
>
> Simon,
>
> I didn't see a link or attachment.
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?
>
>     I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like they?d
>     make a pretty decent joint if they?re as good as they?re cracked
>     up to be. Not very original in their appearance but sound enough??
>     Touch wood, I don?t have many (any?) connections to make in the
>     3000, but for general use?
>     Simon
>
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Sun Oct  1 10:55:07 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 09:55:07 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Solder joints
In-Reply-To: <000601d9f476$1fcedff0$5f6c9fd0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000001d9f439$88fb8b00$9af2a100$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <CAEajuYxYF2MoLg68pc7qgEDA-TVvY2kZVn_ms64ndH7bcrW5fQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <000601d9f476$1fcedff0$5f6c9fd0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <CABXhz8_z--nVup6TNJA5EBbVP8yBir+jcB=fLTQV88AcfynEXg@mail.gmail.com>

I used them on my Healey. Heat gun is safer than a soldering iron in tight
spots.

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6
1967 MGB Roadster

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 8:30 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Ah, yes. Good point!
>
> 200PCs Solderstick Waterproof Solder Wire Connector Kit Original Connector
> Tools | eBay <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404496927584>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com>
> *Sent:* 01 October 2023 14:01
> *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Solder joints
>
>
>
> Simon,
>
>
>
> I didn't see a link or attachment.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?
>
> I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like they?d make a
> pretty decent joint if they?re as good as they?re cracked up to be. Not
> very original in their appearance but sound enough??
> Touch wood, I don?t have many (any?) connections to make in the 3000, but
> for general use?
> Simon
>
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From manifold at telus.net  Sun Oct  1 11:14:27 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 10:14:27 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Boot Emblem
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCBqjszxJFkpbYjfQ+1mmJdGKjhuoozh7ngwR-Wc=t8haw@mail.gmail.com>

The original "3000" boot emblem was heavily pitted and I purchased a new
one from AH Spares. The new emblem looks good but doesn't have a curve to
fit tight to the boot. See picture. I have seen another car with the same
issue. Has anyone successfully curved this emblem? The casting is probably
a type of pot metal and may not like being stressed.

Thanks... Harold
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From p.cquinn at outlook.com  Sun Oct  1 14:38:39 2023
From: p.cquinn at outlook.com (Patrick and Caroline Quinn)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 20:38:39 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Boot Emblem
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCBqjszxJFkpbYjfQ+1mmJdGKjhuoozh7ngwR-Wc=t8haw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFP1XCBqjszxJFkpbYjfQ+1mmJdGKjhuoozh7ngwR-Wc=t8haw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <TY2PR0101MB2767C505E2C7B76654FFC1FC8CC6A@TY2PR0101MB2767.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Hello

Yes have done recently with success.

Place the badge in hot to boiling water, take it out and while the badge is still hot bend by hand to the desired curve.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Harold Manifold
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 4:14 AM
To: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Boot Emblem

The original "3000" boot emblem was heavily pitted and I purchased a new one from AH Spares. The new emblem looks good but doesn't have a curve to fit tight to the boot. See picture. I have seen another car with the same issue. Has anyone successfully curved this emblem? The casting is probably a type of pot metal and may not like being stressed.

Thanks... Harold
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From phoenix722 at comcast.net  Sun Oct  1 15:21:44 2023
From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair)
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 14:21:44 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] 3000 Boot Emblem
In-Reply-To: <TY2PR0101MB2767C505E2C7B76654FFC1FC8CC6A@TY2PR0101MB2767.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
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Message-ID: <07507c63-4fa8-4c0f-a0a1-160343315bcd@comcast.net>

Ouch!

On 10/1/23 1:38 PM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> Yes have done recently with success.
>
> Place the badge in hot to boiling water, take it out and while the 
> badge is still hot bend by hand to the desired curve.
>
> Hoo Roo
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Harold 
> Manifold
> *Sent:* Monday, October 2, 2023 4:14 AM
> *To:* Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] 3000 Boot Emblem
>
> The original "3000" boot emblem was heavily pitted and I purchased a 
> new one from AH Spares. The new emblem looks good but doesn't have a 
> curve to fit tight to the boot. See picture. I have seen another car 
> with the same issue. Has anyone successfully curved this emblem? The 
> casting is probably a type of pot metal and may not like being stressed.
>
> Thanks... Harold
>
>
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Mon Oct  2 06:14:11 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 13:14:11 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Sidesccreens< AGAIN
Message-ID: <000601d9f529$f4660050$dd3200f0$@alexarevel.plus.com>

I asked about fitting the felt the other day and received some useful
replies.

Now, however, I find myself somewhat puzzled. My sidescreens are correct for
the car and are - so far as I can tell - a pair. Very probably original to
the car.

(MkII BT7). 

I've stripped one side down.removed the Perspex panes, cleaned out the
tattered remains of felt, glue  etcetc and got myself to where I thought I
could start the process of fitting the new felt and rubber weather seal.

I left the other side complete for reference. Now, it seems that they are
not identical in that different lengths of felt were used in either side.
Taking the RHS, the length of felt used by someone (maybe BMC) is greater
than half of the length of new felt supplied by AH4H. Naturally, the LHS
employs less than half! 

Can anyone tell me where the felt stops and starts?

On the LHS, both panes slide, even if the front is a bit stiff. On the RHS,
the front pane didn't move at all. Admittedly, I can't see much point in the
front moving and 60+- years of accumulated gunk doesn't help. But, are both
sides supposed to slide?

Finally, the bottom of both frames contains what appears to be lengths of
pre-formed runner along which the panes slide quite happily. Of course, one
length is half as long as the other. Now, did they use pre-formed runners
originally or am I looking at exquisitely moulded felt? 

 

I trust that I have made myself clear?

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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Mon Oct  2 08:53:45 2023
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 10:53:45 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Solder joints
In-Reply-To: <1424cb00-f2e4-010c-a7a3-0025917b9bea@comcast.net>
References: <000001d9f439$88fb8b00$9af2a100$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <CAEajuYxYF2MoLg68pc7qgEDA-TVvY2kZVn_ms64ndH7bcrW5fQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <000601d9f476$1fcedff0$5f6c9fd0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <1424cb00-f2e4-010c-a7a3-0025917b9bea@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B55q-y7gJDYnccYA=o0Ztnk7ODfW_Jsnv_9K00XKDZw+g@mail.gmail.com>

I did literally thousands of inline and terminal connections while building
and rewiring the main and sub panels of my boat and always used
*proper* cutters,
strippers and crimping tools with quality tinned terminal
fittings--sometimes resin-filled and sometimes not depending upon location
and service, etc.  If there was ever a failure it was only due to a bad
crimp, etc.

In addition to what Bob says re these fittings only being for inline butt
joints there is always the risk of damaging adjacent wiring with careless
or too much heat, etc.
They look slick but I think I'd agree with Bob.

Best--Michael

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 1:23?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

> I've never used these--in fact, this is the first I've heard of them--but,
> of course, that never stopped me from having an opinion or two. My 'hot
> take' (heh):
>
> 1) there may be solder formulations that a heat gun could melt, but
> calling this 'solder' seems to be a mis-characterization: the 'fine print'
> says it's 'hot melt adhesive.' I didn't see anything about its
> conductivity, nor it's strength (though the shrink wrap part would be
> reinforcing).
>
> 2) when I was maintaining my own aircraft, I subscribed to a magazine
> called 'Light Plane Maintenance.' It didn't take any advertising, and never
> shied away from 'calling it like it is.' They did exhaustive research and
> experimentation on the benefit/risk of solder joints vs. crimp joints and
> came to the conclusion that crimping was superior to soldering (and easier,
> to boot). But, it has to be done properly; e.g.:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIfoSSmlQR8
>
> 3) I only see them as being used for splices; apparently, you still need
> to employ crimping or soldering for terminals (loop, spade, etc.). I'd
> prefer all my wiring to be consistent.
>
> 4) the advert claims they are 'waterproof;' that, I think, is a stretch.
> Most similar ads only claim 'water resistant' (for liability, I suspect;
> water will eventually get into almost everything).
>
> 5) for most solder joints you want to twist the bare ends together; that
> doesn't seem possible with these.
>
> So, no dice for me.
>
> bs
>
>
>
> On 10/1/2023 7:46 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> Ah, yes. Good point!
>
> 200PCs Solderstick Waterproof Solder Wire Connector Kit Original Connector
> Tools | eBay <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404496927584>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com> <ryan at jimryan.com>
> *Sent:* 01 October 2023 14:01
> *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Solder joints
>
>
>
> Simon,
>
>
>
> I didn't see a link or attachment.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?
>
> I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like they?d make a
> pretty decent joint if they?re as good as they?re cracked up to be. Not
> very original in their appearance but sound enough??
> Touch wood, I don?t have many (any?) connections to make in the 3000, but
> for general use?
> Simon
>
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From manifold at telus.net  Mon Oct  2 09:58:32 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 08:58:32 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Sidesccreens< AGAIN
In-Reply-To: <000601d9f529$f4660050$dd3200f0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000601d9f529$f4660050$dd3200f0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCCmUCo6DbC+=aOyOOv1bAOpNV7YD3MDGsaO90ngjA_v+w@mail.gmail.com>

Simon,

Just to add some confusion, do your Side Screens look like the ones in
the attached picture? I thought I had original side screens and couldn't
find replacement rubber until a wise person on this forum pointed out that
my side screens are an aftermarket product that was available back in the
day.

Harold

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 5:22?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I asked about fitting the felt the other day and received some useful
> replies.
>
> Now, however, I find myself somewhat puzzled. My sidescreens are correct
> for the car and are ? so far as I can tell ? a pair. Very probably original
> to the car.
>
> (MkII BT7).
>
> I?ve stripped one side down?removed the Perspex panes, cleaned out the
> tattered remains of felt, glue  etcetc and got myself to where I thought I
> could start the process of fitting the new felt and rubber weather seal.
>
> I left the other side complete for reference. Now, it seems that they are
> not identical in that different lengths of felt were used in either side.
> Taking the RHS, the length of felt used by someone (maybe BMC) is greater
> than half of the length of new felt supplied by AH4H. Naturally, the LHS
> employs less than half!
>
> *Can anyone tell me where the felt stops and starts?*
>
> On the LHS, both panes slide, even if the front is a bit stiff. On the
> RHS, the front pane didn?t move at all. Admittedly, I can?t see much point
> in the front moving and 60+- years of accumulated gunk doesn?t help. *But,
> are both sides supposed to slide?*
>
> Finally, the bottom of both frames contains what *appears* to be lengths
> of pre-formed runner along which the panes slide quite happily. Of course,
> one length is half as long as the other. *Now, did they use pre-formed
> runners originally or am I looking at exquisitely moulded felt?*
>
>
>
> I trust that I have made myself clear?
>
> Simon
>
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Mon Oct  2 14:17:27 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 16:17:27 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Solder joints
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I have always used the method recommended by Chrysler in their Workshop
Manuals.
Never let me down.

On Mon., Oct. 2, 2023, 11:19 a.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I did literally thousands of inline and terminal connections while
> building and rewiring the main and sub panels of my boat and always used
> *proper* cutters, strippers and crimping tools with quality tinned
> terminal fittings--sometimes resin-filled and sometimes not depending upon
> location and service, etc.  If there was ever a failure it was only due to
> a bad crimp, etc.
>
> In addition to what Bob says re these fittings only being for inline butt
> joints there is always the risk of damaging adjacent wiring with careless
> or too much heat, etc.
> They look slick but I think I'd agree with Bob.
>
> Best--Michael
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 1:23?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I've never used these--in fact, this is the first I've heard of
>> them--but, of course, that never stopped me from having an opinion or two.
>> My 'hot take' (heh):
>>
>> 1) there may be solder formulations that a heat gun could melt, but
>> calling this 'solder' seems to be a mis-characterization: the 'fine print'
>> says it's 'hot melt adhesive.' I didn't see anything about its
>> conductivity, nor it's strength (though the shrink wrap part would be
>> reinforcing).
>>
>> 2) when I was maintaining my own aircraft, I subscribed to a magazine
>> called 'Light Plane Maintenance.' It didn't take any advertising, and never
>> shied away from 'calling it like it is.' They did exhaustive research and
>> experimentation on the benefit/risk of solder joints vs. crimp joints and
>> came to the conclusion that crimping was superior to soldering (and easier,
>> to boot). But, it has to be done properly; e.g.:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIfoSSmlQR8
>>
>> 3) I only see them as being used for splices; apparently, you still need
>> to employ crimping or soldering for terminals (loop, spade, etc.). I'd
>> prefer all my wiring to be consistent.
>>
>> 4) the advert claims they are 'waterproof;' that, I think, is a stretch.
>> Most similar ads only claim 'water resistant' (for liability, I suspect;
>> water will eventually get into almost everything).
>>
>> 5) for most solder joints you want to twist the bare ends together; that
>> doesn't seem possible with these.
>>
>> So, no dice for me.
>>
>> bs
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/1/2023 7:46 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> Ah, yes. Good point!
>>
>> 200PCs Solderstick Waterproof Solder Wire Connector Kit Original
>> Connector Tools | eBay <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404496927584>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com> <ryan at jimryan.com>
>> *Sent:* 01 October 2023 14:01
>> *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
>> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Solder joints
>>
>>
>>
>> Simon,
>>
>>
>>
>> I didn't see a link or attachment.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?
>>
>> I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like they?d make a
>> pretty decent joint if they?re as good as they?re cracked up to be. Not
>> very original in their appearance but sound enough??
>> Touch wood, I don?t have many (any?) connections to make in the 3000, but
>> for general use?
>> Simon
>>
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Tue Oct  3 03:42:57 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 10:42:57 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] FW:  Sidesccreens< AGAIN
In-Reply-To: <000601d9f529$f4660050$dd3200f0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
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Can anyone advise me on this:-

"Can anyone tell me where the felt stops and starts?"

Simon

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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Tue Oct  3 04:02:39 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 11:02:39 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Solder joints
Message-ID: <002e01d9f5e0$befab0c0$3cf01240$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Interesting replies. Thanks.

The thing that I particularly wondered about was the melting point of the
solder. I'd be pretty careful of any heat gun that would melt "proper"
solder. In fact, I'd probably call it a blow lamp and have corresponding
safety concerns.

The waterproof claim isn't so much of a worry as I discount 99% of such
claims as no better than "water resistant" which, you'd hope, is sufficient
for day to day Healey usage.

Personally, I'll stick to the old twist the wires together, solder then heat
shrink.

For crimp connectors, I tend to strip off the plastic, tin the wire, slide
into the connector, crimp, solder then slide on a little heat shrink. Just
think that the coloured plastic looks incongruous in our old bangers.

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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Tue Oct  3 05:31:04 2023
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 07:31:04 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Solder joints
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I too use solder and follow the protocol that is outlined in the Chrysler manual that Mike attached.  HOWEVER, I am on the fence a bit on this one.  I struggle to get just enough heat to melt the solder fully into the twisted wires without melting the adjacent plastic insulation and, worse, over-heating the wire for an inch or so either side of the joint.  Over-heating the wire makes it brittle and prone to failure (i.e. breakage), especially if it is in a position where is it is vibrating or subject to flexing.  The mechanic who services my BMW, and who is a fully qualified Bosch technician (a few years ago he re-wired a DeLorean from scratch without a manual), swears by crimping because of the embrittlement caused by heating.  He services older Porches and English cars like ours, as well as new stuff, and has noticed that when wires break, it is usually within an inch or so of a solder joint.

 

For now, I am staying with the solder and being very careful, but I take  the point of the crimping advocates.

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 4:17 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Solder joints

 

I have always used the method recommended by Chrysler in their Workshop Manuals.

Never let me down.

 

On Mon., Oct. 2, 2023, 11:19 a.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

I did literally thousands of inline and terminal connections while building and rewiring the main and sub panels of my boat and always used proper cutters, strippers and crimping tools with quality tinned terminal fittings--sometimes resin-filled and sometimes not depending upon location and service, etc.  If there was ever a failure it was only due to a bad crimp, etc.  

 

In addition to what Bob says re these fittings only being for inline butt joints there is always the risk of damaging adjacent wiring with careless or too much heat, etc.

They look slick but I think I'd agree with Bob.

 

Best--Michael   

 

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 1:23?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net> > wrote:

I've never used these--in fact, this is the first I've heard of them--but, of course, that never stopped me from having an opinion or two. My 'hot take' (heh):

1) there may be solder formulations that a heat gun could melt, but calling this 'solder' seems to be a mis-characterization: the 'fine print' says it's 'hot melt adhesive.' I didn't see anything about its conductivity, nor it's strength (though the shrink wrap part would be reinforcing). 

2) when I was maintaining my own aircraft, I subscribed to a magazine called 'Light Plane Maintenance.' It didn't take any advertising, and never shied away from 'calling it like it is.' They did exhaustive research and experimentation on the benefit/risk of solder joints vs. crimp joints and came to the conclusion that crimping was superior to soldering (and easier, to boot). But, it has to be done properly; e.g.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIfoSSmlQR8

3) I only see them as being used for splices; apparently, you still need to employ crimping or soldering for terminals (loop, spade, etc.). I'd prefer all my wiring to be consistent.

4) the advert claims they are 'waterproof;' that, I think, is a stretch. Most similar ads only claim 'water resistant' (for liability, I suspect; water will eventually get into almost everything).

5) for most solder joints you want to twist the bare ends together; that doesn't seem possible with these.

So, no dice for me.

bs




On 10/1/2023 7:46 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:

Ah, yes. Good point!

200PCs Solderstick Waterproof Solder Wire Connector Kit Original Connector Tools | eBay <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404496927584> 

 

 

 

From: Jim Ryan  <mailto:ryan at jimryan.com> <ryan at jimryan.com> 
Sent: 01 October 2023 14:01
To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> 
Cc: Healeys  <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Solder joints

 

Simon,

 

I didn't see a link or attachment.

 

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?

I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like they?d make a pretty decent joint if they?re as good as they?re cracked up to be. Not very original in their appearance but sound enough?? 
Touch wood, I don?t have many (any?) connections to make in the 3000, but for general use?
Simon

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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Tue Oct  3 07:53:42 2023
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 09:53:42 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Solder joints
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I don't know if any of the suppliers of wiring harnesses offer tinned wire
but if so that would be a real advantage both to cut down on corrosion and
to make soldering easier.

On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 7:56?AM m.g.sharp--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I too use solder and follow the protocol that is outlined in the Chrysler
> manual that Mike attached.  HOWEVER, I am on the fence a bit on this one.
> I struggle to get just enough heat to melt the solder fully into the
> twisted wires without melting the adjacent plastic insulation and, worse,
> over-heating the wire for an inch or so either side of the joint.
> Over-heating the wire makes it brittle and prone to failure (i.e.
> breakage), especially if it is in a position where is it is vibrating or
> subject to flexing.  The mechanic who services my BMW, and who is a fully
> qualified Bosch technician (a few years ago he re-wired a DeLorean from
> scratch without a manual), swears by crimping because of the embrittlement
> caused by heating.  He services older Porches and English cars like ours,
> as well as new stuff, and has noticed that when wires break, it is usually
> within an inch or so of a solder joint.
>
>
>
> For now, I am staying with the solder and being very careful, but I take
> the point of the crimping advocates.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Salter
> *Sent:* Monday, October 2, 2023 4:17 PM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Solder joints
>
>
>
> I have always used the method recommended by Chrysler in their Workshop
> Manuals.
>
> Never let me down.
>
>
>
> On Mon., Oct. 2, 2023, 11:19 a.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I did literally thousands of inline and terminal connections while
> building and rewiring the main and sub panels of my boat and always used
> *proper* cutters, strippers and crimping tools with quality tinned
> terminal fittings--sometimes resin-filled and sometimes not depending upon
> location and service, etc.  If there was ever a failure it was only due to
> a bad crimp, etc.
>
>
>
> In addition to what Bob says re these fittings only being for inline butt
> joints there is always the risk of damaging adjacent wiring with careless
> or too much heat, etc.
>
> They look slick but I think I'd agree with Bob.
>
>
>
> Best--Michael
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 1:23?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I've never used these--in fact, this is the first I've heard of them--but,
> of course, that never stopped me from having an opinion or two. My 'hot
> take' (heh):
>
> 1) there may be solder formulations that a heat gun could melt, but
> calling this 'solder' seems to be a mis-characterization: the 'fine print'
> says it's 'hot melt adhesive.' I didn't see anything about its
> conductivity, nor it's strength (though the shrink wrap part would be
> reinforcing).
>
> 2) when I was maintaining my own aircraft, I subscribed to a magazine
> called 'Light Plane Maintenance.' It didn't take any advertising, and never
> shied away from 'calling it like it is.' They did exhaustive research and
> experimentation on the benefit/risk of solder joints vs. crimp joints and
> came to the conclusion that crimping was superior to soldering (and easier,
> to boot). But, it has to be done properly; e.g.:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIfoSSmlQR8
>
> 3) I only see them as being used for splices; apparently, you still need
> to employ crimping or soldering for terminals (loop, spade, etc.). I'd
> prefer all my wiring to be consistent.
>
> 4) the advert claims they are 'waterproof;' that, I think, is a stretch.
> Most similar ads only claim 'water resistant' (for liability, I suspect;
> water will eventually get into almost everything).
>
> 5) for most solder joints you want to twist the bare ends together; that
> doesn't seem possible with these.
>
> So, no dice for me.
>
> bs
>
>
> On 10/1/2023 7:46 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>
> Ah, yes. Good point!
>
> 200PCs Solderstick Waterproof Solder Wire Connector Kit Original Connector
> Tools | eBay <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/404496927584>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com> <ryan at jimryan.com>
> *Sent:* 01 October 2023 14:01
> *To:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Solder joints
>
>
>
> Simon,
>
>
>
> I didn't see a link or attachment.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, 3:39 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Has anyone used these? And, if so, are they any good?
>
> I saw them on some car show and was impressed. Seems like they?d make a
> pretty decent joint if they?re as good as they?re cracked up to be. Not
> very original in their appearance but sound enough??
> Touch wood, I don?t have many (any?) connections to make in the 3000, but
> for general use?
> Simon
>
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From kags at shaw.ca  Tue Oct  3 09:29:22 2023
From: kags at shaw.ca (kags at shaw.ca)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 08:29:22 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] FW:  Sidesccreens< AGAIN
In-Reply-To: <002801d9f5dd$fec485d0$fc4d9170$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000601d9f529$f4660050$dd3200f0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
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Message-ID: <001801d9f60e$63428860$29c79920$@shaw.ca>

Simon:

 

My sidescreens are as original - except that I had to renew the rubbers many
years ago.  If you can give me a few hours, I'll dig them out of the boot
and send you some photos.  As far as I can recall, the felts pretty much
fill the channels completely.

 

Earl Kagna

Victoria, BC

BT7, BJ8

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan
via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 2:43 AM
To: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] FW: Sidesccreens< AGAIN

 

Can anyone advise me on this:-

"Can anyone tell me where the felt stops and starts?"

Simon



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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Tue Oct  3 14:12:15 2023
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 16:12:15 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Wizard Radiator
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B4eNMvHVqBn_iSORKDPZeG4wtu8V+bbkLiuHXLDNYQ1RA@mail.gmail.com>

I am planning on putting a new Wizard radiator in my 100 and before
ordering it I'd like to hear from anyone who based upon experience with one
has any suggestions or comments. The one mod I am planning upon would have
the overflow tube coming out of the right of the filler as I have an
existing recovery tank mounted upon the right shroud support.

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From a2garrison at charter.net  Tue Oct  3 15:32:18 2023
From: a2garrison at charter.net (Alan Garrison)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 17:32:18 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Sidesccreens< AGAIN
In-Reply-To: <000601d9f529$f4660050$dd3200f0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000601d9f529$f4660050$dd3200f0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <09b301d9f641$165e5b90$431b12b0$@charter.net>

Simon

 

The front pane should be fixed with no felt installed. 

 

Felt for the rear pane is installed starting at the lower front, up the back
and across the top of the frame ending at the upper front. The channel for
the pane at the front of the frame, adjacent to the windshield post, does
not get felt.

 

I rebuilt my WeatherSheilds decades ago and separated the felt into two
pieces, one for the lower section and the other for the back and upper
section. I do not recall if that was per original or just for convenience of
installation.

 

I know nothing about pre-formed runners, unless you are referring to the
felt being formed into a "U" and installed into the channel which is what
was done originally.

 

Alan Garrison

BN6

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan
via Healeys
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 8:14 AM
To: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Sidesccreens< AGAIN

 

I asked about fitting the felt the other day and received some useful
replies.

Now, however, I find myself somewhat puzzled. My sidescreens are correct for
the car and are - so far as I can tell - a pair. Very probably original to
the car.

(MkII BT7). 

I've stripped one side down.removed the Perspex panes, cleaned out the
tattered remains of felt, glue  etcetc and got myself to where I thought I
could start the process of fitting the new felt and rubber weather seal.

I left the other side complete for reference. Now, it seems that they are
not identical in that different lengths of felt were used in either side.
Taking the RHS, the length of felt used by someone (maybe BMC) is greater
than half of the length of new felt supplied by AH4H. Naturally, the LHS
employs less than half! 

Can anyone tell me where the felt stops and starts?

On the LHS, both panes slide, even if the front is a bit stiff. On the RHS,
the front pane didn't move at all. Admittedly, I can't see much point in the
front moving and 60+- years of accumulated gunk doesn't help. But, are both
sides supposed to slide?

Finally, the bottom of both frames contains what appears to be lengths of
pre-formed runner along which the panes slide quite happily. Of course, one
length is half as long as the other. Now, did they use pre-formed runners
originally or am I looking at exquisitely moulded felt? 

 

I trust that I have made myself clear?

Simon

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From airtightproductions at me.com  Tue Oct  3 16:38:36 2023
From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 22:38:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Wizard Radiator
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B4eNMvHVqBn_iSORKDPZeG4wtu8V+bbkLiuHXLDNYQ1RA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTa0B4eNMvHVqBn_iSORKDPZeG4wtu8V+bbkLiuHXLDNYQ1RA@mail.gmail.com>
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I installed a Wizard radiator on my old 100 and it made a huge difference for the good. I still had to use my bilge fan directly on the front float bowl as anytime I got above 190 in traffic my car would tend to vapor lock, but that was a matter of present day fuels and the small BN1 heat shield. The radiator itself was a marked improvement.It also bolted right in and fit perfectly. I also used an over flow tank and once I had both installed I never "boiled over" again for as long as I owned the car.? I also installed a special stainless steel fan I got from British Car Specialists in Stockton, California. Moved a ton of air.So I'm definitely on the positive side of Wizard radiators. Plus they were wonderful to deal with when they sent the wrong radiator to begin with. The fessed up to their mistake and covered all shipping costs in supplying me with the correct one.Steven KingsburyBN1?On Oct 3, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:I am planning on putting a new Wizard radiator in my 100 and before ordering it I'd like to hear from anyone who based upon experience with one has any suggestions or comments. The one mod I am planning upon would have the overflow tube coming out of the right of the filler as I have an existing recovery tank mounted upon the right shroud support.Best--Michael Oritt_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation  $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Tue Oct  3 19:42:10 2023
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 18:42:10 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Wizard Radiator
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B4eNMvHVqBn_iSORKDPZeG4wtu8V+bbkLiuHXLDNYQ1RA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTa0B4eNMvHVqBn_iSORKDPZeG4wtu8V+bbkLiuHXLDNYQ1RA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1b77301d9f663$fe976470$fbc62d50$@gmail.com>

I have the Wizard radiator in my ?64/?65 BJ-8, and do like it! 

 

Do remember it doesn?t have the standard Healey neck depth? 

 

I too, have a recovery tank, and appreciate it?s value.

 

The only down side is  - if you happen to get any anti-freeze on the top tank, get it off IMMEDIATELY to avoid staining.

 

----------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 1:12 PM
To: Austin Healey <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Wizard Radiator

 

I am planning on putting a new Wizard radiator in my 100 and before ordering it I'd like to hear from anyone who based upon experience with one has any suggestions or comments. The one mod I am planning upon would have the overflow tube coming out of the right of the filler as I have an existing recovery tank mounted upon the right shroud support.

 

Best--Michael Oritt

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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Wed Oct  4 07:35:33 2023
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 09:35:33 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Bilstein shocks
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B4aCcr93ySLXYU3kyUbh_cYF_5ghEU7HVqc_0EPHwS0UQ@mail.gmail.com>

I installed a set of Bilstein shocks I acquired from Udo Putske about 20
years/70K mikes ago and while I have no reason to think they are in any way
defective I don't think they owe me much and would like to address
rebuilding or replacing them this winter. I don't know if Udo is still in
business but in any case does anyone have info on rebuilding or replacement?

Best--Michael Oritt
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Wed Oct  4 07:35:53 2023
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 13:35:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Wizard Radiator
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References: <CAPTa0B4eNMvHVqBn_iSORKDPZeG4wtu8V+bbkLiuHXLDNYQ1RA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <485548889.11053889.1696426553463@mail.yahoo.com>

Regarding any surface-staining issues with the Wizard radiator?or any alloy unit?simply use a good aluminum polish like Flitz or others out there. Occasional polishing is good practice anyway.?

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On Wednesday, October 4, 2023, 5:26 AM, alfuller194 at gmail.com <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:

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I have the Wizard radiator in my ?64/?65 BJ-8, and do like it! 

 ?

Do remember it doesn?t have the standard Healey neck depth? 

 ?

I too, have a recovery tank, and appreciate it?s value.

 ?

The only down side is? - if you happen to get any anti-freeze on the top tank, get it off IMMEDIATELY to avoid staining.

 ?

----------------

All the best,

 ?

Al Fuller

 ?

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2023 1:12 PM
To: Austin Healey <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Wizard Radiator

 ?

I am planning on putting a new Wizard radiator in my 100 and before ordering it I'd like to hear from anyone who based upon experience with one has any suggestions or comments. The one mod I am planning upon would have the overflow tube coming out of the right of the filler as I have an existing recovery tank mounted upon the right shroud support.

 ?

Best--Michael Oritt
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Wed Oct  4 07:38:00 2023
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 13:38:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Wizard Radiator
In-Reply-To: <59f20385-d7ea-46c3-87cb-91548c8e7413@me.com>
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Wizard are, indeed, great to deal with. And finding anything made in the US these days?especially anything so good?is reward unto itself!


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Tuesday, October 3, 2023, 11:18 PM, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

I installed a Wizard radiator on my old 100 and it made a huge difference for the good. I still had to use my bilge fan directly on the front float bowl as anytime I got above 190 in traffic my car would tend to vapor lock, but that was a matter of present day fuels and the small BN1 heat shield. The radiator itself was a marked improvement.

It also bolted right in and fit perfectly. I also used an over flow tank and once I had both installed I never "boiled over" again for as long as I owned the car.? I also installed a special stainless steel fan I got from British Car Specialists in Stockton, California. Moved a ton of air.

So I'm definitely on the positive side of Wizard radiators. Plus they were wonderful to deal with when they sent the wrong radiator to begin with. The fessed up to their mistake and covered all shipping costs in supplying me with the correct one.

Steven Kingsbury
BN1?


On Oct 3, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:


I am planning on putting a new Wizard radiator in my 100 and before ordering it I'd like to hear from anyone who based upon experience with one has any suggestions or comments. The one mod I am planning upon would have the overflow tube coming out of the right of the filler as I have an existing recovery tank mounted upon the right shroud support.

Best--Michael Oritt
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From airtightproductions at me.com  Wed Oct  4 08:52:22 2023
From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 14:52:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Bilstein shocks
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Udo is no longer in business and Bilstein itself isn't what it used to be. I don't know all the details but Bilstein is not supplying parts, or shocks even. like they used to. If I hear more, I pass along the information, but as of right now, I don't think you're going to get much in the way of support from Bilstein. Would be worth a try to contact them directly to see what they say.Steven KingsburyBN1??On Oct 4, 2023, at 7:37 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:I installed a set of Bilstein shocks I acquired from Udo Putske about 20 years/70K mikes ago and while I have no reason to think they are in any way defective I don't think they owe me much and would like to address rebuilding or replacing them this winter. I don't know if Udo is still in business but in any case does anyone have info on rebuilding or replacement?Best--Michael Oritt_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation  $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Wed Oct  4 08:56:33 2023
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 16:56:33 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] Bilstein shocks
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If it ain't broke don't fix it. Bilsteins generally last a long time, 
70k does not sound extreme. Leave well alone unless you have been 
driving on a lot of very rough roads and the car has become bouncy.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 4-10-2023 om 15:35 schreef Michael Oritt:
> I installed a set of Bilstein shocks I acquired from Udo Putske about 
> 20 years/70K mikes ago and while I have no reason to think they are in 
> any way defective I don't think they owe me much and would like to 
> address rebuilding or replacing them this winter. I don't know if Udo 
> is still in business but in any case does anyone have info on 
> rebuilding or replacement?
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
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From neilandcustom at gmail.com  Wed Oct  4 12:09:14 2023
From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 13:09:14 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Bilstein shocks
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Udo was at Enclave in PA a year ago.  He had some health issues prior to
that and I am pretty sure he closed his business early this year.

Hopefully someone has more info.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023, 9:42 AM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:

> I installed a set of Bilstein shocks I acquired from Udo Putske about 20
> years/70K mikes ago and while I have no reason to think they are in any way
> defective I don't think they owe me much and would like to address
> rebuilding or replacing them this winter. I don't know if Udo is still in
> business but in any case does anyone have info on rebuilding or replacement?
>
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Wed Oct  4 12:36:53 2023
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 14:36:53 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Bilstein shocks
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I made contact with Udo asking his advice re replacement.  He replied: *"Hi
Michael, if there not dripping oil, there will be good for 170-200k miles.
You can full compress each and check that the chrome shaft is not more
visible than 1/2".*

There are presently no leaks nor untoward noises. Perhaps I'll dismount the
shocks and do the compression test but it sounds like I have about 100,000
miles of life left in them. I hope I can use that up.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 2:09?PM Neil Anderson <neilandcustom at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Udo was at Enclave in PA a year ago.  He had some health issues prior to
> that and I am pretty sure he closed his business early this year.
>
> Hopefully someone has more info.
>
> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023, 9:42 AM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I installed a set of Bilstein shocks I acquired from Udo Putske about 20
>> years/70K mikes ago and while I have no reason to think they are in any way
>> defective I don't think they owe me much and would like to address
>> rebuilding or replacing them this winter. I don't know if Udo is still in
>> business but in any case does anyone have info on rebuilding or replacement?
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
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From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct  4 13:00:43 2023
From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock BCS)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 12:00:43 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Bilstein shocks
In-Reply-To: <cf6fed83-6e72-49e8-8545-406ff4b86188@chello.nl>
References: <CAPTa0B4aCcr93ySLXYU3kyUbh_cYF_5ghEU7HVqc_0EPHwS0UQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <cf6fed83-6e72-49e8-8545-406ff4b86188@chello.nl>
Message-ID: <CD307B72024A43AAB0089015EA540A41@DavidNockHP>

Udo sold the Fahrspass shock company to Steve Kirby of the AH Association of So Cal. He is in the process of getting the company back up and going again.


David Nock
British Car Specialists
209-948-8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com

From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2023 7:56 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bilstein shocks

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Bilsteins generally last a long time, 70k does not sound extreme. Leave well alone unless you have been driving on a lot of very rough roads and the car has become bouncy.
Kees Oudesluijs


Op 4-10-2023 om 15:35 schreef Michael Oritt:

  I installed a set of Bilstein shocks I acquired from Udo Putske about 20 years/70K mikes ago and while I have no reason to think they are in any way defective I don't think they owe me much and would like to address rebuilding or replacing them this winter. I don't know if Udo is still in business but in any case does anyone have info on rebuilding or replacement?



  Best--Michael Oritt

   
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From dmasucci at charter.net  Wed Oct  4 13:34:36 2023
From: dmasucci at charter.net (David Masucci)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 15:34:36 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Bilstein shocks
In-Reply-To: <0e1ab84d-d3ff-4045-8a0c-bf8d9c59cb03@me.com>
References: <CAPTa0B4aCcr93ySLXYU3kyUbh_cYF_5ghEU7HVqc_0EPHwS0UQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <651ED2E0-3C1A-4B58-9892-1DB50F313D3C@charter.net>

Can you cross reference the Bilstein PN tp an alternate brand? 

BTW, I had the Putske kit on my BJ8 up until 2012 when I took the car apart down the frame and started over. I decided to go back to OEM lever shocks during the restoration. I still have the full Putske kit including the shocks. If anyone is interested, make me an offer so I can clear off some shelf space. 

Dave

64 BJ8
72 XJ6



> On Oct 4, 2023, at 10:52 AM, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Udo is no longer in business and Bilstein itself isn't what it used to be. I don't know all the details but Bilstein is not supplying parts, or shocks even. like they used to. If I hear more, I pass along the information, but as of right now, I don't think you're going to get much in the way of support from Bilstein. Would be worth a try to contact them directly to see what they say.
> Steven Kingsbury
> BN1  
> 
>> On Oct 4, 2023, at 7:37 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I installed a set of Bilstein shocks I acquired from Udo Putske about 20 years/70K mikes ago and while I have no reason to think they are in any way defective I don't think they owe me much and would like to address rebuilding or replacing them this winter. I don't know if Udo is still in business but in any case does anyone have info on rebuilding or replacement?
>> 
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Wed Oct  4 13:57:49 2023
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 21:57:49 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] Bilstein shocks
In-Reply-To: <CD307B72024A43AAB0089015EA540A41@DavidNockHP>
References: <CAPTa0B4aCcr93ySLXYU3kyUbh_cYF_5ghEU7HVqc_0EPHwS0UQ@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CD307B72024A43AAB0089015EA540A41@DavidNockHP>
Message-ID: <28b2bef4-264b-4127-8b8f-bb1eaddfd706@chello.nl>

Udo was re-valving shock absorbers for several classic car applications. 
He was also supplying advice all over the world. Years ago I was looking 
for shock absorbers for a specific car. These were officially not 
available through the Bilstein network in Europe. However he supplied me 
with the part numbers free of charge so Bilstein in Germany could build 
me some at the standard price..
Sorry to hear he is not in business any longer. We all get older!

Kees Oudesluijs



Op 4-10-2023 om 21:00 schreef David Nock BCS:
> Udo sold the Fahrspass shock company to Steve Kirby of the AH 
> Association of So Cal. He is in the process of getting the company 
> back up and going again.
> David Nock
> British Car Specialists
> 209-948-8767
> www.britishcarspecialists.com
> *From:* Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2023 7:56 AM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bilstein shocks
>
> If it ain't broke don't fix it. Bilsteins generally last a long time, 
> 70k does not sound extreme. Leave well alone unless you have been 
> driving on a lot of very rough roads and the car has become bouncy.
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
> Op 4-10-2023 om 15:35 schreef Michael Oritt:
>> I installed a set of Bilstein shocks I acquired from Udo Putske about 
>> 20 years/70K mikes ago and while I have no reason to think they are 
>> in any way defective I don't think they owe me much and would like to 
>> address rebuilding or replacing them this winter. I don't know if Udo 
>> is still in business but in any case does anyone have info on 
>> rebuilding or replacement?
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
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From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct  4 16:06:29 2023
From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock BCS)
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 15:06:29 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Bilstein shocks
In-Reply-To: <CAHZDnjoPOTHz0YnHAhF3Lt_UV-WpdSa+F6qEfKMZnOLPnkJ1mw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <51EEEFDD007B40D78505B342EE0AD5BC@DavidNockHP>

Udo sold the Fahrspass shock company to Steve Kirby of the AH Association of So Cal. He is in the process of getting the company back up and going again.

David Nock
British Car Specialists
209-948-8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com

From: Neil Anderson 
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2023 11:09 AM
To: Michael Oritt 
Cc: Austin Healey 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bilstein shocks

Udo was at Enclave in PA a year ago.  He had some health issues prior to that and I am pretty sure he closed his business early this year. 

Hopefully someone has more info.

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023, 9:42 AM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:

  I installed a set of Bilstein shocks I acquired from Udo Putske about 20 years/70K mikes ago and while I have no reason to think they are in any way defective I don't think they owe me much and would like to address rebuilding or replacing them this winter. I don't know if Udo is still in business but in any case does anyone have info on rebuilding or replacement?



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From stmiller96 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  5 05:49:19 2023
From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 11:49:19 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Early BN1 doors
Message-ID: <PH7P221MB10072E8AB5B72E8FC8986612D4CAA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Anyone looking for a set of early BN1 doors? Only for the first 5000 cars -unusual hinge style. Rust in bottoms but could be saved.
Shawn

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From stmiller96 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  5 16:21:05 2023
From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 22:21:05 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] 1282/574 laycock overdrive I.D.
Message-ID: <PH7P221MB100763450EE909B24DCE2B57D4CAA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Perplexed by
1282 574 laycock overdrive

Has some damage around the #8, so it could possibly be 1292/574.  Anyone able to I.D.

TIA
Shawn
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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Fri Oct  6 10:46:26 2023
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 10:46:26 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] FEF
Message-ID: <43bbb4ba-2960-4ec0-b302-88c36fe48a6b@porterscustom.com>


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From dmasucci at charter.net  Fri Oct  6 14:05:52 2023
From: dmasucci at charter.net (David Masucci)
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2023 16:05:52 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Best adhesive to install the boot lid seal
In-Reply-To: <51EEEFDD007B40D78505B342EE0AD5BC@DavidNockHP>
References: <CAPTa0B4aCcr93ySLXYU3kyUbh_cYF_5ghEU7HVqc_0EPHwS0UQ@mail.gmail.com>
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 <51EEEFDD007B40D78505B342EE0AD5BC@DavidNockHP>
Message-ID: <FCF8D2FE-BB3E-4AAE-BD08-DDBB5EF621AE@charter.net>

Hi All,

Does anyone have a recommendation for an adhesive to install the boot lid rubber seal. I have the black 3M weatherstrip and gasket adhesive, but I really don?t like they way it spreads and adheres to the surface of the lid. Is there an alternative?

Thanks,
Dave

64 BJ8
72 XJ6


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From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com  Fri Oct  6 20:18:17 2023
From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2023 02:18:17 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Best adhesive to install the boot lid seal
In-Reply-To: <FCF8D2FE-BB3E-4AAE-BD08-DDBB5EF621AE@charter.net>
References: <CAPTa0B4aCcr93ySLXYU3kyUbh_cYF_5ghEU7HVqc_0EPHwS0UQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHZDnjoPOTHz0YnHAhF3Lt_UV-WpdSa+F6qEfKMZnOLPnkJ1mw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CH3PR19MB80880CAE7CBF71387791B34BBFC8A@CH3PR19MB8088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

I used 3M adhesive for rubber; used the small brush applicator that came with it. Not sure it was black.
I got it on wrong: put on the body instead of the lid but while not concours, it works
I have used the 3M spray for bigger areas like floor insulation or carpeting etc where overspray not a big deal.
Regards,
Richard C


On Oct 6, 2023, at 20:36, David Masucci via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

? Hi All,

Does anyone have a recommendation for an adhesive to install the boot lid rubber seal. I have the black 3M weatherstrip and gasket adhesive, but I really don?t like they way it spreads and adheres to the surface of the lid. Is there an alternative?

Thanks,
Dave

64 BJ8
72 XJ6


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From manifold at telus.net  Sat Oct  7 09:33:12 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2023 08:33:12 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Best adhesive to install the boot lid seal
In-Reply-To: <CH3PR19MB80880CAE7CBF71387791B34BBFC8A@CH3PR19MB8088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAPTa0B4aCcr93ySLXYU3kyUbh_cYF_5ghEU7HVqc_0EPHwS0UQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHZDnjoPOTHz0YnHAhF3Lt_UV-WpdSa+F6qEfKMZnOLPnkJ1mw@mail.gmail.com>
 <51EEEFDD007B40D78505B342EE0AD5BC@DavidNockHP>
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Message-ID: <CAFP1XCCof7WRt9_Jj9iZEVWP0vWDj9or_F6g7W7v549SVV3DyA@mail.gmail.com>

Richard,

I have used Lepages Contact Cement and black Permatex Super Weatherstrip
Adhesive. The Permatex was better for mouldings and seals and the
contact cement better for flat surfaces.

Harold


On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 1:50?AM Richard Collins via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I used 3M adhesive for rubber; used the small brush applicator that came
> with it. Not sure it was black.
> I got it on wrong: put on the body instead of the lid but while not
> concours, it works
> I have used the 3M spray for bigger areas like floor insulation or
> carpeting etc where overspray not a big deal.
> Regards,
> Richard C
>
>
> On Oct 6, 2023, at 20:36, David Masucci via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ? Hi All,
>
> Does anyone have a recommendation for an adhesive to install the boot lid
> rubber seal. I have the black 3M weatherstrip and gasket adhesive, but I
> really don?t like they way it spreads and adheres to the surface of the
> lid. Is there an alternative?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> 64 BJ8
> 72 XJ6
>
>
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From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com  Sat Oct  7 11:55:59 2023
From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2023 17:55:59 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Best adhesive to install the boot lid seal
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCCof7WRt9_Jj9iZEVWP0vWDj9or_F6g7W7v549SVV3DyA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPTa0B4aCcr93ySLXYU3kyUbh_cYF_5ghEU7HVqc_0EPHwS0UQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHZDnjoPOTHz0YnHAhF3Lt_UV-WpdSa+F6qEfKMZnOLPnkJ1mw@mail.gmail.com>
 <51EEEFDD007B40D78505B342EE0AD5BC@DavidNockHP>
 <FCF8D2FE-BB3E-4AAE-BD08-DDBB5EF621AE@charter.net>
 <CH3PR19MB80880CAE7CBF71387791B34BBFC8A@CH3PR19MB8088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
 <CAFP1XCCof7WRt9_Jj9iZEVWP0vWDj9or_F6g7W7v549SVV3DyA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CH3PR19MB8088E4BAFBB7BFCC623E6CBFBFC8A@CH3PR19MB8088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>

Thanks, good to know as I found in some cases 3M wouldn?t stick to some paint like Por15 or chassis Saver
Regards,
Richard C


On Oct 7, 2023, at 10:33, Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:

?
Richard,

I have used Lepages Contact Cement and black Permatex Super Weatherstrip Adhesive. The Permatex was better for mouldings and seals and the contact cement better for flat surfaces.

Harold


On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 1:50?AM Richard Collins via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
I used 3M adhesive for rubber; used the small brush applicator that came with it. Not sure it was black.
I got it on wrong: put on the body instead of the lid but while not concours, it works
I have used the 3M spray for bigger areas like floor insulation or carpeting etc where overspray not a big deal.
Regards,
Richard C


On Oct 6, 2023, at 20:36, David Masucci via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:

? Hi All,

Does anyone have a recommendation for an adhesive to install the boot lid rubber seal. I have the black 3M weatherstrip and gasket adhesive, but I really don?t like they way it spreads and adheres to the surface of the lid. Is there an alternative?

Thanks,
Dave

64 BJ8
72 XJ6


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From dmasucci at charter.net  Sat Oct  7 15:16:39 2023
From: dmasucci at charter.net (David Masucci)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2023 17:16:39 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Best adhesive to install the boot lid seal
In-Reply-To: <CH3PR19MB8088E4BAFBB7BFCC623E6CBFBFC8A@CH3PR19MB8088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAPTa0B4aCcr93ySLXYU3kyUbh_cYF_5ghEU7HVqc_0EPHwS0UQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHZDnjoPOTHz0YnHAhF3Lt_UV-WpdSa+F6qEfKMZnOLPnkJ1mw@mail.gmail.com>
 <51EEEFDD007B40D78505B342EE0AD5BC@DavidNockHP>
 <FCF8D2FE-BB3E-4AAE-BD08-DDBB5EF621AE@charter.net>
 <CH3PR19MB80880CAE7CBF71387791B34BBFC8A@CH3PR19MB8088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
 <CAFP1XCCof7WRt9_Jj9iZEVWP0vWDj9or_F6g7W7v549SVV3DyA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CH3PR19MB8088E4BAFBB7BFCC623E6CBFBFC8A@CH3PR19MB8088.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <D89D9D0F-F2C3-4D43-8ED4-7F55EB710383@charter.net>

Hi all. I am in the process of assembling my freshly painted Healey. Back in 2015 I had everything re-chromed (I thought). Today I was planning to put the front fenders on the car and remembered that I have to install the rechromed fender spears first. 

Well, time has a way of erasing things that you needed to remember. I now do remember that in the process of removing the chrome spear on the drivers side, the studs snapped. So apparently back then, I sent everything out to the plater, with the exception of the spears. I?ve now remembered and realized that I had purchased a reproduction spear from Moss for the drivers side (and I guess I intended to just re-chrome the original for the passenger side, but never ddid). So today I put the repro on, and was extremely disappointed with the quality. It has many ripples. Also I now find I have nothing for the passenger side. Car assembly is now on hold. Phooey!

Two questions:

1	Does anyone have a set of re-chromed originals that they would be wiling to sell?
2	Are there any sources for high quality reproduction spears?

Thanks for ?listening?.

Dave

64 BJ8
72 XJ6

Thanks all on the responses to my question on the 3M trim adhesive. After viewing a demo on youtube, I managed to get good results, and my boot lid gasket is now securely in place. 


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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Sun Oct  8 08:14:35 2023
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2023 10:14:35 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Best adhesive to install the boot lid seal
In-Reply-To: <D89D9D0F-F2C3-4D43-8ED4-7F55EB710383@charter.net>
References: <CAPTa0B4aCcr93ySLXYU3kyUbh_cYF_5ghEU7HVqc_0EPHwS0UQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHZDnjoPOTHz0YnHAhF3Lt_UV-WpdSa+F6qEfKMZnOLPnkJ1mw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <D89D9D0F-F2C3-4D43-8ED4-7F55EB710383@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAGfzsZeJzRvSXvXwQxLUXUvqY-K0ccn4Nn2btD5OiJigu6aGjg@mail.gmail.com>

There's one NOS spear on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/234092123923?hash=item3680fa5713:g:YCcAAOSw0sFg8e2x&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA8OskCG210DrFyokguXquIJxk0NeMD2dkzoutE4tksBcPW0%2B4sAkkS81xFUI0vzUOZUEAUizVCd2RzZsYTzyu8OHz1gS1KvvcPpOhQP2wPBc7ZQtyDfCCenDBlG%2BvHk%2B9Rz5b0KBUJM99lG249wGrs3mLnQZEmAhTmfUdzPzeiqsQWohHth4yGF9bjV%2FQDFNKibw1s5IILKhA16se%2BA5YYPbnkAths4LyREu7mL3nr2x3WWqcvDL4fTXVqne091oyl4uWB%2Fir3%2FkacsxYZHtvg32MCIkRUl%2BXFPJtbA%2B213aWoxTjRdabp9DWYtVr603FEA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-aF9vnhYg.
Hard to tell what the condition of the chrome is.  You can attach the
fender spears after the fenders are installed, although it requires a lot
of contortions.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 5:43?PM David Masucci via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi all. I am in the process of assembling my freshly painted Healey. Back
> in 2015 I had everything re-chromed (I thought). Today I was planning to
> put the front fenders on the car and remembered that I have to install the
> rechromed fender spears first.
>
> Well, time has a way of erasing things that you needed to remember. I now
> do remember that in the process of removing the chrome spear on the drivers
> side, the studs snapped. So apparently back then, I sent everything out to
> the plater, with the exception of the spears. I?ve now remembered and
> realized that I had purchased a reproduction spear from Moss for the
> drivers side (and I guess I intended to just re-chrome the original for the
> passenger side, but never ddid). So today I put the repro on, and was
> extremely disappointed with the quality. It has many ripples. Also I now
> find I have nothing for the passenger side. Car assembly is now on hold.
> Phooey!
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1 Does anyone have a set of re-chromed originals that they would be
> wiling to sell?
> 2 Are there any sources for high quality reproduction spears?
>
> Thanks for ?listening?.
>
> Dave
>
> 64 BJ8
> 72 XJ6
>
> Thanks all on the responses to my question on the 3M trim adhesive. After
> viewing a demo on youtube, I managed to get good results, and my boot lid
> gasket is now securely in place.
>
>
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct  8 12:41:45 2023
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2023 11:41:45 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Power Bleeder
References: <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$@sbcglobal.net>

I have a pressure bleeder to bleed the brake and clutch. To clean it, the
instructions say to use denatured alcohol (unobtainium in California) or a
weak solution of simple green.

 

Because brake fluid is hydroscopic I was wondering if the bleeder parts can
be washed out with water. Of course I would let it dry very thoroughly
before using it again.

 

What are the listers thoughts?

 

TIA,

John

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From manifold at telus.net  Sun Oct  8 17:22:56 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2023 16:22:56 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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Message-ID: <CAFP1XCB9-6_vsY7zZ_bS35sZW55OCtepnJJ8+pu=61nStfRH-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Why not clean it with Brake Clean?

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:41?PM John Spaur via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I have a pressure bleeder to bleed the brake and clutch. To clean it, the
> instructions say to use denatured alcohol (unobtainium in California) or a
> weak solution of simple green.
>
>
>
> Because brake fluid is hydroscopic I was wondering if the bleeder parts
> can be washed out with water. Of course I would let it dry very thoroughly
> before using it again.
>
>
>
> What are the listers thoughts?
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
> John
>
> ?62 BT7
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct  8 17:54:32 2023
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2023 16:54:32 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCB9-6_vsY7zZ_bS35sZW55OCtepnJJ8+pu=61nStfRH-Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
 <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$@sbcglobal.net>
 <CAFP1XCB9-6_vsY7zZ_bS35sZW55OCtepnJJ8+pu=61nStfRH-Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00a901d9fa42$c9577d80$5c067880$@sbcglobal.net>

There is a warning to not use that.

 



 

From: Harold Manifold [mailto:manifold at telus.net] 
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 4:23 PM
To: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder

 

Why not clean it with Brake Clean?

 

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:41?PM John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

I have a pressure bleeder to bleed the brake and clutch. To clean it, the instructions say to use denatured alcohol (unobtainium in California) or a weak solution of simple green.

 

Because brake fluid is hydroscopic I was wondering if the bleeder parts can be washed out with water. Of course I would let it dry very thoroughly before using it again

 

What are the listers thoughts?

 

TIA,

John

?62 BT7

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From manifold at telus.net  Sun Oct  8 18:03:25 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2023 17:03:25 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <00a901d9fa42$c9577d80$5c067880$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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 <CAFP1XCB9-6_vsY7zZ_bS35sZW55OCtepnJJ8+pu=61nStfRH-Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <00a901d9fa42$c9577d80$5c067880$@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCB6MNOWe=Q1YPkor0ws5_=cKv2TCqPtHSc4YRVkGrk+qw@mail.gmail.com>

My apologies didn't realize that. How about flushing with the same type of
brake fluid used in your car?

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 4:54?PM John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> There is a warning to not use that.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Harold Manifold [mailto:manifold at telus.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 8, 2023 4:23 PM
> *To:* John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder
>
>
>
> Why not clean it with Brake Clean?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:41?PM John Spaur via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I have a pressure bleeder to bleed the brake and clutch. To clean it, the
> instructions say to use denatured alcohol (unobtainium in California) or a
> weak solution of simple green.
>
>
>
> Because brake fluid is hydroscopic I was wondering if the bleeder parts
> can be washed out with water. Of course I would let it dry very thoroughly
> before using it again
>
>
>
> What are the listers thoughts?
>
>
>
> TIA,
>
> John
>
> ?62 BT7
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sun Oct  8 18:59:38 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2023 20:59:38 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCB6MNOWe=Q1YPkor0ws5_=cKv2TCqPtHSc4YRVkGrk+qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
 <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$@sbcglobal.net>
 <CAFP1XCB9-6_vsY7zZ_bS35sZW55OCtepnJJ8+pu=61nStfRH-Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <00a901d9fa42$c9577d80$5c067880$@sbcglobal.net>
 <CAFP1XCB6MNOWe=Q1YPkor0ws5_=cKv2TCqPtHSc4YRVkGrk+qw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LJX=Esx8aBKb45C5zA1QAFCpbvzp+vWqF9EJtrJMmssmw@mail.gmail.com>

Just a rince in hot water and let it dry is perfectly fine  Brake fluid is
water soluable.

M

On Sun., Oct. 8, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Harold Manifold via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> My apologies didn't realize that. How about flushing with the same type of
> brake fluid used in your car?
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 4:54?PM John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> There is a warning to not use that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Harold Manifold [mailto:manifold at telus.net]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 8, 2023 4:23 PM
>> *To:* John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
>> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder
>>
>>
>>
>> Why not clean it with Brake Clean?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:41?PM John Spaur via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> I have a pressure bleeder to bleed the brake and clutch. To clean it, the
>> instructions say to use denatured alcohol (unobtainium in California) or a
>> weak solution of simple green.
>>
>>
>>
>> Because brake fluid is hydroscopic I was wondering if the bleeder parts
>> can be washed out with water. Of course I would let it dry very thoroughly
>> before using it again
>>
>>
>>
>> What are the listers thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> John
>>
>> ?62 BT7
>>
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct  8 19:42:48 2023
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2023 18:42:48 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <CAB3i7LJX=Esx8aBKb45C5zA1QAFCpbvzp+vWqF9EJtrJMmssmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
 <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$@sbcglobal.net>
 <CAFP1XCB9-6_vsY7zZ_bS35sZW55OCtepnJJ8+pu=61nStfRH-Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <00a901d9fa42$c9577d80$5c067880$@sbcglobal.net>
 <CAFP1XCB6MNOWe=Q1YPkor0ws5_=cKv2TCqPtHSc4YRVkGrk+qw@mail.gmail.com>
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That?s what I thought too because I always clean my tools that have brake fluid with water.

 

Thanks!

 

From: Michael Salter [mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 6:00 PM
To: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
Cc: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>; healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder

 

Just a rince in hot water and let it dry is perfectly fine  Brake fluid is water soluable.

 

M

 

On Sun., Oct. 8, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Harold Manifold via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

My apologies didn't realize that. How about flushing with the same type of brake fluid used in your car?

 

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 4:54?PM John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net <mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

There is a warning to not use that.

 



 

From: Harold Manifold [mailto:manifold at telus.net <mailto:manifold at telus.net> ] 
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 4:23 PM
To: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net <mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> >
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder

 

Why not clean it with Brake Clean?

 

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:41?PM John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

I have a pressure bleeder to bleed the brake and clutch. To clean it, the instructions say to use denatured alcohol (unobtainium in California) or a weak solution of simple green.

 

Because brake fluid is hydroscopic I was wondering if the bleeder parts can be washed out with water. Of course I would let it dry very thoroughly before using it again

 

What are the listers thoughts?

 

TIA,

John

?62 BT7

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From warthodson at aol.com  Mon Oct  9 08:01:29 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 14:01:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <00b901d9fa51$e92b6310$bb822930$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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 ?It depends on what type of brake fluid you are using. Silicone based fluid is hydrophobic.Gary Hodson
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 09:24:57 PM CDT, John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
That?s what I thought too because I always clean my tools that have brake fluid with water.

 ?

Thanks!

 ?

From: Michael Salter [mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 6:00 PM
To: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
Cc: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>; healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder

 ?

Just a rince in hot water and let it dry is perfectly fine? Brake fluid is water soluable.

 ?

M

 ?

On Sun., Oct. 8, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Harold Manifold via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:


My apologies didn't realize that. How about flushing with the same type of brake fluid used in your car?

 ?

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 4:54?PM John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> wrote:


There is a warning to not use that.

?



?

From: Harold Manifold [mailto:manifold at telus.net] 
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 4:23 PM
To: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder

?

Why not clean it with Brake Clean?

?

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:41?PM John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:


I have a pressure bleeder to bleed the brake and clutch. To clean it, the instructions say to use denatured alcohol (unobtainium in California) or a weak solution of simple green.

?

Because brake fluid is hydroscopic I was wondering if the bleeder parts can be washed out with water. Of course I would let it dry very thoroughly before using it again

?

What are the listers thoughts?

?

TIA,

John

?62 BT7

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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Mon Oct  9 09:04:34 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 16:04:34 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <262983224.3937324.1696860089324@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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Got rabies in fact?.

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of warthodson--- via Healeys
Sent: 09 October 2023 15:01
To: 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter at gmail.com>; 'Harold Manifold' <manifold at telus.net>; John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder

 

 It depends on what type of brake fluid you are using. Silicone based fluid is hydrophobic.

Gary Hodson

 

On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 09:24:57 PM CDT, John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote: 

 

 

That?s what I thought too because I always clean my tools that have brake fluid with water.

 

Thanks!

 

From: Michael Salter [mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 6:00 PM
To: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net <mailto:manifold at telus.net> >
Cc: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net <mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> >; healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder

 

Just a rince in hot water and let it dry is perfectly fine  Brake fluid is water soluable.

 

M

 

On Sun., Oct. 8, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Harold Manifold via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

My apologies didn't realize that. How about flushing with the same type of brake fluid used in your car?

 

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 4:54?PM John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net <mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

There is a warning to not use that.

 

 

From: Harold Manifold [mailto:manifold at telus.net <mailto:manifold at telus.net> ] 
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 4:23 PM
To: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net <mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> >
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder

 

Why not clean it with Brake Clean?

 

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:41?PM John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

I have a pressure bleeder to bleed the brake and clutch. To clean it, the instructions say to use denatured alcohol (unobtainium in California) or a weak solution of simple green.

 

Because brake fluid is hydroscopic I was wondering if the bleeder parts can be washed out with water. Of course I would let it dry very thoroughly before using it again

 

What are the listers thoughts?

 

TIA,

John

?62 BT7

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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Mon Oct  9 10:29:02 2023
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 09:29:02 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <262983224.3937324.1696860089324@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <00a001d9fa17$17190dd0$454b2970$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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 <00a901d9fa42$c9577d80$5c067880$@sbcglobal.net>
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DOT 4

 

From: warthodson at aol.com [mailto:warthodson at aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 7:01 AM
To: 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter at gmail.com>; 'Harold Manifold' <manifold at telus.net>; John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder

 

 It depends on what type of brake fluid you are using. Silicone based fluid is hydrophobic.

Gary Hodson

 

On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 09:24:57 PM CDT, John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote: 

 

 

That?s what I thought too because I always clean my tools that have brake fluid with water.

 

Thanks!

 

From: Michael Salter [mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 6:00 PM
To: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net <mailto:manifold at telus.net> >
Cc: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net <mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> >; healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder

 

Just a rince in hot water and let it dry is perfectly fine  Brake fluid is water soluable.

 

M

 

On Sun., Oct. 8, 2023, 8:46 p.m. Harold Manifold via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

My apologies didn't realize that. How about flushing with the same type of brake fluid used in your car?

 

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 4:54?PM John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net <mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

There is a warning to not use that.

 

 

From: Harold Manifold [mailto:manifold at telus.net <mailto:manifold at telus.net> ] 
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 4:23 PM
To: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net <mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> >
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autoxteam.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Power Bleeder

 

Why not clean it with Brake Clean?

 

On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:41?PM John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

I have a pressure bleeder to bleed the brake and clutch. To clean it, the instructions say to use denatured alcohol (unobtainium in California) or a weak solution of simple green.

 

Because brake fluid is hydroscopic I was wondering if the bleeder parts can be washed out with water. Of course I would let it dry very thoroughly before using it again

 

What are the listers thoughts?

 

TIA,

John

?62 BT7

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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Mon Oct  9 11:10:34 2023
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 13:10:34 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Best adhesive to install the boot lid seal
In-Reply-To: <D89D9D0F-F2C3-4D43-8ED4-7F55EB710383@charter.net>
References: <CAPTa0B4aCcr93ySLXYU3kyUbh_cYF_5ghEU7HVqc_0EPHwS0UQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <00ff01d9fad3$8458b5f0$8d0a21d0$@sympatico.ca>

Ouch ? bummer Dave.  Sorry I cannot help, but your post is just one more noting the poor quality of reproduction trim ? it is so disappointing that we cannot get quality replacements.  If I were you, I?d shop around for some good old ones regardless of quality and get them re-chromed.  If you don?t it will always bug you.

 

Also, I believe it is possible to install the fender spears with the fenders in place, albeit it is awkward, so they should not hold you up.  At least that is the case with my BT7.  I am not sure if there is anything on later models that may make it more difficult; the brake servo for instance ? perhaps others can comment on that.  It is the air vent tubes that make it awkward.  If you are installing those later, then putting the spears would be much easier.  FYI, installing the vent tubes with the shroud in place is a bear, but doable with patience and good garage vocabulary.

 

Good luck, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of David Masucci via Healeys
Sent: Saturday, October 7, 2023 5:17 PM
To: Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Best adhesive to install the boot lid seal

 

Hi all. I am in the process of assembling my freshly painted Healey. Back in 2015 I had everything re-chromed (I thought). Today I was planning to put the front fenders on the car and remembered that I have to install the rechromed fender spears first. 

 

Well, time has a way of erasing things that you needed to remember. I now do remember that in the process of removing the chrome spear on the drivers side, the studs snapped. So apparently back then, I sent everything out to the plater, with the exception of the spears. I?ve now remembered and realized that I had purchased a reproduction spear from Moss for the drivers side (and I guess I intended to just re-chrome the original for the passenger side, but never ddid). So today I put the repro on, and was extremely disappointed with the quality. It has many ripples. Also I now find I have nothing for the passenger side. Car assembly is now on hold. Phooey!

 

Two questions:

 

1              Does anyone have a set of re-chromed originals that they would be wiling to sell?

2              Are there any sources for high quality reproduction spears?

 

Thanks for ?listening?.

 

Dave

 

64 BJ8

72 XJ6

 

Thanks all on the responses to my question on the 3M trim adhesive. After viewing a demo on youtube, I managed to get good results, and my boot lid gasket is now securely in place. 

 

 

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From stmiller96 at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 10 06:28:57 2023
From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 12:28:57 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
Message-ID: <PH7P221MB1007903BCF59AE5581B4BD60D4CDA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later three?
TIA, Shawn

The Millers

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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Tue Oct 10 20:02:49 2023
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 19:02:49 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
References: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$@sbcglobal.net>

Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not fit
my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962 BT7.

 



 

The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.

I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.

 



 

If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product number
you could send me?

 

Thanks,

John

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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Tue Oct 10 21:37:48 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 20:37:48 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Frame repair
Message-ID: <CABXhz89WEcBrV7hXVmRzBQrDcTV0iSGzeHRsh9G9Wi_0U9Q7AQ@mail.gmail.com>

Can Anyone on the list recommend a Portland extended expert on Frame
repair? I haven't felt up to working on my wife's B and my mechanic just
informed me the frame is bent.
If the offends you because this a MGB hit delete.

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6
1967 MGB Roadster
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Wed Oct 11 02:17:34 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 09:17:34 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
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I dug this out of my records if it?s any use


Simon

QUOTE

Simon Lachlan

From:         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]

Sent:          11 September 1999 18:18

To:             Healey List

Subject:     Results from Coil Spring Posts

 

Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil
springs for the Healey. 

Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by
owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.

BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?  (freestanding coil length)

BN6        - 12?

BT7               - 11 13/16?

BJ8        - 10 1/8?

 

Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?. 

So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been
upgraded through the years. 

More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier
Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the
same.

I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7
but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at
the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am
going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering,
handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner
reported, I can easily tolerate that. 

Thanks again,

 

Rich Locasso

Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE

 

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of S and T Miller
via Healeys
Sent: 10 October 2023 13:29
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

 

I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that
there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the
measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the
later three? 

TIA, Shawn 

 

The Millers
 
"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
drive."

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From stmiller96 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 11 04:17:43 2023
From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:17:43 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
In-Reply-To: <000a01d9fc1b$64a5bc00$2df13400$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <PH7P221MB1007903BCF59AE5581B4BD60D4CDA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Message-ID: <PH7P221MB10079538AE9F60DA9480719AD4CCA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.  Thanks again.


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
________________________________
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
To: 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID


I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?

Simon

QUOTE

Simon Lachlan

From:         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]

Sent:          11 September 1999 18:18

To:             Healey List

Subject:     Results from Coil Spring Posts



Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil springs for the Healey.

Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.

BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?  (freestanding coil length)

BN6        - 12?

BT7               - 11 13/16?

BJ8        - 10 1/8?



Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.

So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgraded through the years.

More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the same.

I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that.

Thanks again,



Rich Locasso

Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE







From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of S and T Miller via Healeys
Sent: 10 October 2023 13:29
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID



I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later three?

TIA, Shawn



The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Wed Oct 11 05:37:41 2023
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 07:37:41 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor is not
listed on my receipt.  However, they can tell you which one you need.  I
seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey listed, but the
cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and the dealer did have a
listing for the TC, although I don't see it on their web page.  Weird.  I'd
contact their support people and ask.

 

That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to seal on
the reservoir.  I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a similar problem.  It
just does not seem to screw down tight enough, although I can see no logical
reason for it not sealing.  It is on my "to do" list (but near the bottom),
to get a used reservoir and experiment to get a better fit. 

 

Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the tube
from draining out when the cap was removed.  I fitted a check valve in the
line right above the adaptor.  

 

I'd be interested to see if other listers have had issues the adaptor
sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.

 

For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just need
to find another warm body to pump the pedal.

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Spaur via
Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not fit
my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962 BT7.

 



 

The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.

I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.

 



 

If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product number
you could send me?

 

Thanks,

John

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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Wed Oct 11 06:50:42 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:50:42 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <000e01d9fc37$5842bd70$08c83850$@sympatico.ca>
References: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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As Mirek mentioned I struggled with the lod sealing problem for my Snap-on
pressure bleeder many years ago and finally solved the problem by making
this device. The spring clips are made from those from a very ancient ski
boot. It took a bit of work and ingenuity but has served me well for
decades.

On Wed., Oct. 11, 2023, 8:42 a.m. m.g.sharp--- via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor is
> not listed on my receipt.  However, they can tell you which one you need.
> I seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey listed, but
> the cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and the dealer did have
> a listing for the TC, although I don?t see it on their web page.  Weird.
> I?d contact their support people and ask.
>
>
>
> That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to seal on
> the reservoir.  I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a similar problem.
> It just does not seem to screw down tight enough, although I can see no
> logical reason for it not sealing.  It is on my ?to do? list (but near the
> bottom), to get a used reservoir and experiment to get a better fit.
>
>
>
> Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the tube
> from draining out when the cap was removed.  I fitted a check valve in the
> line right above the adaptor.
>
>
>
> I?d be interested to see if other listers have had issues the adaptor
> sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.
>
>
>
> For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just need
> to find another warm body to pump the pedal.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *John
> Spaur via Healeys
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
>
>
>
> Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not
> fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962
> BT7.
>
>
>
>
>
> The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.
>
> I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.
>
>
>
>
>
> If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product
> number you could send me?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Wed Oct 11 09:20:13 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 16:20:13 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
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References: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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 <000e01d9fc37$5842bd70$08c83850$@sympatico.ca>
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Message-ID: <003101d9fc56$6fb54d00$4f1fe700$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Those clips being something you used on the Amundsen Expedition?
I have an Eezibleed. It came with a variety of caps, none of which fitted. I rang them up and they sent me one that did fit at once.

I seem to recall that I bulked out one of the ?almost fit? versions with Clingfilm to make a  satisfactory seal.

I do recall that I got far better results with the Eezibleed at really low pressure than with the suggested psi.

Simon

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: 11 October 2023 13:51
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

As Mirek mentioned I struggled with the lod sealing problem for my Snap-on pressure bleeder many years ago and finally solved the problem by making this device. The spring clips are made from those from a very ancient ski boot. It took a bit of work and ingenuity but has served me well for decades.

 

On Wed., Oct. 11, 2023, 8:42 a.m. m.g.sharp--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor is not listed on my receipt.  However, they can tell you which one you need.  I seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey listed, but the cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and the dealer did have a listing for the TC, although I don?t see it on their web page.  Weird.  I?d contact their support people and ask.

 

That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to seal on the reservoir.  I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a similar problem.  It just does not seem to screw down tight enough, although I can see no logical reason for it not sealing.  It is on my ?to do? list (but near the bottom), to get a used reservoir and experiment to get a better fit. 

 

Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the tube from draining out when the cap was removed.  I fitted a check valve in the line right above the adaptor.  

 

I?d be interested to see if other listers have had issues the adaptor sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.

 

For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just need to find another warm body to pump the pedal.

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of John Spaur via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962 BT7.

 



 

The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.

I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.

 



 

If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product number you could send me?

 

Thanks,

John

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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Wed Oct 11 09:46:59 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 23:46:59 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
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Hi John -

For whatever reason the ezibleed cap I have does not sit properly and seal,
so I just use a couple of small to medium trigger clamps to hold the cap in
place and that works well (the bottom part of the clamp on the underside of
the reservoir, the top on one side of the cap - be sure to use a trigger
clamp that has rubber faced clamps so that it doesn't damage anything).

I put a small zip tie to hold together the two metal slides that will rise
above the reservoir when it's in place, to keep the clamps from sliding off
the cap while the system is under pressure.

Cheers,

Alan

On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 10:23?AM John Spaur via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not
> fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962
> BT7.
>
>
>
>
>
> The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.
>
> I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.
>
>
>
>
>
> If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product
> number you could send me?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 11 11:40:12 2023
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:40:12 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
In-Reply-To: <PH7P221MB10079538AE9F60DA9480719AD4CCA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
References: <PH7P221MB1007903BCF59AE5581B4BD60D4CDA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <000a01d9fc1b$64a5bc00$2df13400$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <PH7P221MB10079538AE9F60DA9480719AD4CCA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
Message-ID: <0B7655FF-142A-4300-B659-8E6C52508991@gmail.com>

Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.

100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535?, 225 lbs/in,  free length varies 11? to 12?;

MKII coils are .590?, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2?,

BJ8 coils are .610?, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4? long



Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



> On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.  Thanks again. 
> 
> 
> The Millers
>  
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
> From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
> To: 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>  
> I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?
> Simon
> QUOTE
> Simon Lachlan
> From:         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]
> Sent:          11 September 1999 18:18
> To:             Healey List
> Subject:     Results from Coil Spring Posts
>  
> Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil springs for the Healey.
> 
> Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.
> 
> BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?  (freestanding coil length)
> 
> BN6        - 12?
> BT7               - 11 13/16?
> BJ8        - 10 1/8?
>  
> Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.
> 
> So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgraded through the years.
> 
> More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the same.
> 
> I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that.
> 
> Thanks again,
>  
> Rich Locasso
> Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
>  
>  
>  
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of S and T Miller via Healeys
> Sent: 10 October 2023 13:29
> To: healeys at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>  
> I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later three? 
> TIA, Shawn 
>  
> The Millers
>  
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 11 11:54:56 2023
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:54:56 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
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Message-ID: <014701d9fc6c$0ccadff0$26609fd0$@sbcglobal.net>

Nice solution Mark.

 

I fabricated a cap from the lid of a PVC solvent can. It fits the reservoir and seals with one rubber gasket on the inside. I have attached photos of my reservoir and cap. 

 

Cheers,

John

 

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 5:51 AM
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

As Mirek mentioned I struggled with the lod sealing problem for my Snap-on pressure bleeder many years ago and finally solved the problem by making this device. The spring clips are made from those from a very ancient ski boot. It took a bit of work and ingenuity but has served me well for decades.

 

On Wed., Oct. 11, 2023, 8:42 a.m. m.g.sharp--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor is not listed on my receipt.  However, they can tell you which one you need.  I seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey listed, but the cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and the dealer did have a listing for the TC, although I don?t see it on their web page.  Weird.  I?d contact their support people and ask.

 

That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to seal on the reservoir.  I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a similar problem.  It just does not seem to screw down tight enough, although I can see no logical reason for it not sealing.  It is on my ?to do? list (but near the bottom), to get a used reservoir and experiment to get a better fit. 

 

Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the tube from draining out when the cap was removed.  I fitted a check valve in the line right above the adaptor.  

 

I?d be interested to see if other listers have had issues the adaptor sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.

 

For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just need to find another warm body to pump the pedal.

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of John Spaur via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962 BT7.

 



 

The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.

I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.

 



 

If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product number you could send me?

 

Thanks,

John

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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 11 11:54:56 2023
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:54:56 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <CAFBXTkKc2pTVYQJ5MaU9UYE6EdnYaS4F+k+wg8sMv3biZUYZ7Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Allen,

 

The ezibleed system is different. I fabricated a cap from the lid of a PVC solvent can. It fits the reservoir and seals with one rubber gasket on the inside. I have attached photos of my reservoir and cap. 

 

I did called tech support and was told there was not a cap for the Austin-Healey even though the website states differently. Something interesting is tech support is provided by the former company owner. He bought the company in 2008 and sold it in September of 2023. Motive Products is located back east but tech support is provided by the former owner and the area code for his phone is 408.

 

It is irritating that they say they have a cap but don?t. The product is very expensive and one should not have to fabricate a cap!

 

Cheers,

John

 

 

From: Alan Seigrist [mailto:healey.nut at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 8:47 AM
To: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

Hi John -

 

For whatever reason the ezibleed cap I have does not sit properly and seal, so I just use a couple of small to medium trigger clamps to hold the cap in place and that works well (the bottom part of the clamp on the underside of the reservoir, the top on one side of the cap - be sure to use a trigger clamp that has rubber faced clamps so that it doesn't damage anything).  

I put a small zip tie to hold together the two metal slides that will rise above the reservoir when it's in place, to keep the clamps from sliding off the cap while the system is under pressure. 

 

Cheers,

 

Alan

 

On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 10:23?AM John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962 BT7.

 



 

The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.

I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.

 



 

If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product number you could send me?

 

Thanks,

John

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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 11 11:54:56 2023
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 10:54:56 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <000e01d9fc37$5842bd70$08c83850$@sympatico.ca>
References: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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Message-ID: <015301d9fc6c$145a25a0$3d0e70e0$@sbcglobal.net>

Mirek, the recommended cap for the M.G. TC is 1109. I did call tech support
and was told there was not a cap for the Austin-Healey even though the
website states differently. Something interesting is tech support is
provided by the former company owner. He bought the company in 2008 and sold
it in September of 2023. Motive Products is located back east but tech
support is provided by the former owner and the area code for his phone is
408.

 



 

I have attached photos of my reservoir and cap. I fabricated a cap from the
lid of a PVC solvent can. It fits the reservoir and seals with one rubber
gasket on the inside.

 

Cheers,

John

 

From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca [mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:38 AM
To: 'John Spaur' <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>; healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor is not
listed on my receipt.  However, they can tell you which one you need.  I
seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey listed, but the
cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and the dealer did have a
listing for the TC, although I don't see it on their web page.  Weird.  I'd
contact their support people and ask.

 

That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to seal on
the reservoir.  I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a similar problem.  It
just does not seem to screw down tight enough, although I can see no logical
reason for it not sealing.  It is on my "to do" list (but near the bottom),
to get a used reservoir and experiment to get a better fit. 

 

Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the tube
from draining out when the cap was removed.  I fitted a check valve in the
line right above the adaptor.  

 

I'd be interested to see if other listers have had issues the adaptor
sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.

 

For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just need
to find another warm body to pump the pedal.

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of John Spaur via
Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not fit
my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962 BT7.

 



 

The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.

I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.

 



 

If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product number
you could send me?

 

Thanks,

John

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From stmiller96 at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 11 12:31:45 2023
From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 18:31:45 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
In-Reply-To: <0B7655FF-142A-4300-B659-8E6C52508991@gmail.com>
References: <PH7P221MB1007903BCF59AE5581B4BD60D4CDA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <000a01d9fc1b$64a5bc00$2df13400$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <PH7P221MB10079538AE9F60DA9480719AD4CCA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <0B7655FF-142A-4300-B659-8E6C52508991@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <PH7P221MB10070B0F0ED5FE1540E8D42BD4CCA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Thank you!


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
________________________________
From: richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:40 PM
To: S and T Miller <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
Cc: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>; healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.

100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535?, 225 lbs/in,  free length varies 11? to 12?;

MKII coils are .590?, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2?,

BJ8 coils are .610?, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4? long



Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.  Thanks again.


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
________________________________
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
To: 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?
Simon
QUOTE
Simon Lachlan
From:         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]
Sent:          11 September 1999 18:18
To:             Healey List
Subject:     Results from Coil Spring Posts



Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil springs for the Healey.

Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.

BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?  (freestanding coil length)

BN6        - 12?
BT7               - 11 13/16?
BJ8        - 10 1/8?



Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.

So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgraded through the years.

More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the same.

I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that.

Thanks again,



Rich Locasso
Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE







From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of S and T Miller via Healeys
Sent: 10 October 2023 13:29
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID



I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later three?
TIA, Shawn



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From manifold at telus.net  Wed Oct 11 12:50:54 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 11:50:54 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
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References: <PH7P221MB1007903BCF59AE5581B4BD60D4CDA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <000a01d9fc1b$64a5bc00$2df13400$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <PH7P221MB10079538AE9F60DA9480719AD4CCA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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Richard,

Very good information. Do you know if the 0.590 Mkll coil was used on the
Mkll BT7 or introduced with the BJ7?

Harold

On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 11:11?AM richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.
>
> 100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535?, 225 lbs/in,  free length
> varies 11? to 12?;
>
> MKII coils are .590?, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2?,
>
> BJ8 coils are .610?, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4? long
>
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much
> appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.
> Thanks again.
>
>
> The Millers
>
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
> drive."
> ------------------------------
> *From:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <
> simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
> *To:* 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>
> I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?
> Simon
> QUOTE
> Simon Lachlan
> *From:*         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]
> *Sent:*          11 September 1999 18:18
> *To:*             Healey List
> *Subject:*     Results from Coil Spring Posts
>
>
>
> Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning
> coil springs for the Healey.
>
> Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by
> owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.
>
> BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?  (freestanding coil length)
> BN6        - 12?
> BT7               - 11 13/16?
> BJ8        - 10 1/8?
>
>
>
> Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.
>
> So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been
> upgraded through the years.
>
> More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to
> earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about
> the same.
>
> I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7
> but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at
> the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am
> going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering,
> handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner
> reported, I can easily tolerate that.
> Thanks again,
>
>
> Rich Locasso
> Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *S and T
> Miller via Healeys
> *Sent:* 10 October 2023 13:29
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>
>
> I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that
> there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the
> measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the
> later three?
> TIA, Shawn
>
>
> The Millers
>
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
> drive."
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From theswed at hotmail.com  Wed Oct 11 14:55:39 2023
From: theswed at hotmail.com (Kenny J)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 20:55:39 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Parts
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Wed Oct 11 16:35:32 2023
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 18:35:32 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <CAFBXTkKc2pTVYQJ5MaU9UYE6EdnYaS4F+k+wg8sMv3biZUYZ7Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
 <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$@sbcglobal.net>
 <CAFBXTkKc2pTVYQJ5MaU9UYE6EdnYaS4F+k+wg8sMv3biZUYZ7Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006201d9fc93$3e956330$bbc02990$@sympatico.ca>

Alan, what do you mean by ?trigger clamps??  Can you send a photo?

 

Thanks, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Alan Seigrist
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 11:47 AM
To: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

Hi John -

 

For whatever reason the ezibleed cap I have does not sit properly and seal, so I just use a couple of small to medium trigger clamps to hold the cap in place and that works well (the bottom part of the clamp on the underside of the reservoir, the top on one side of the cap - be sure to use a trigger clamp that has rubber faced clamps so that it doesn't damage anything).  

I put a small zip tie to hold together the two metal slides that will rise above the reservoir when it's in place, to keep the clamps from sliding off the cap while the system is under pressure. 

 

Cheers,

 

Alan

 

On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 10:23?AM John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962 BT7.

 



 

The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.

I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.

 



 

If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product number you could send me?

 

Thanks,

John

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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Wed Oct 11 16:36:53 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 06:36:53 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
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On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 6:35?AM <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Alan, what do you mean by ?trigger clamps??  Can you send a photo?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Alan
> Seigrist
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2023 11:47 AM
> *To:* John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
>
>
>
> Hi John -
>
>
>
> For whatever reason the ezibleed cap I have does not sit properly and
> seal, so I just use a couple of small to medium trigger clamps to hold the
> cap in place and that works well (the bottom part of the clamp on the
> underside of the reservoir, the top on one side of the cap - be sure to use
> a trigger clamp that has rubber faced clamps so that it doesn't damage
> anything).
>
> I put a small zip tie to hold together the two metal slides that will rise
> above the reservoir when it's in place, to keep the clamps from sliding off
> the cap while the system is under pressure.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 10:23?AM John Spaur via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not
> fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962
> BT7.
>
>
>
>
>
> The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.
>
> I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.
>
>
>
>
>
> If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product
> number you could send me?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Wed Oct 11 16:42:22 2023
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 18:42:22 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <015301d9fc6c$145a25a0$3d0e70e0$@sbcglobal.net>
References: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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Interesting John,  I took the cap off my TC and is not only looks identical
to the one on my BT7, but screws on the BT7 reservoir nice an tight, so I am
quite confident the 1109 part number will fit on both the TC and the Healey,
but as I said, it does not seal when the bleeder is pressurized.

 

Your solution looks simple!  When I get to dealing with this issue, I will
take a close look at this solution.

 

Thanks, Mirek

 

From: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:55 PM
To: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca; healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

Mirek, the recommended cap for the M.G. TC is 1109. I did call tech support
and was told there was not a cap for the Austin-Healey even though the
website states differently. Something interesting is tech support is
provided by the former company owner. He bought the company in 2008 and sold
it in September of 2023. Motive Products is located back east but tech
support is provided by the former owner and the area code for his phone is
408.

 



 

I have attached photos of my reservoir and cap. I fabricated a cap from the
lid of a PVC solvent can. It fits the reservoir and seals with one rubber
gasket on the inside.

 

Cheers,

John

 

From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca <mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
[mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:38 AM
To: 'John Spaur' <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net <mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> >;
healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor is not
listed on my receipt.  However, they can tell you which one you need.  I
seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey listed, but the
cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and the dealer did have a
listing for the TC, although I don't see it on their web page.  Weird.  I'd
contact their support people and ask.

 

That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to seal on
the reservoir.  I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a similar problem.  It
just does not seem to screw down tight enough, although I can see no logical
reason for it not sealing.  It is on my "to do" list (but near the bottom),
to get a used reservoir and experiment to get a better fit. 

 

Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the tube
from draining out when the cap was removed.  I fitted a check valve in the
line right above the adaptor.  

 

I'd be interested to see if other listers have had issues the adaptor
sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.

 

For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just need
to find another warm body to pump the pedal.

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of John Spaur via
Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not fit
my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962 BT7.

 



 

The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.

I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.

 



 

If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product number
you could send me?

 

Thanks,

John

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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 11 17:52:15 2023
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2023 16:52:15 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <007801d9fc94$3370a540$9a51efc0$@sympatico.ca>
References: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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Mirek, the hose fitting is a 5/16" pipe thread. There is a rubber washer
under the brass nut.

 

Do you have a 1/8" thick, or thicker, rubber washer between the reservoir
rim and the bottom of the cap when you try to pressurize the system?

 

Thanks for the cap info.

John

 

From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca [mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 3:42 PM
To: 'John Spaur' <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>; healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

Interesting John,  I took the cap off my TC and is not only looks identical
to the one on my BT7, but screws on the BT7 reservoir nice an tight, so I am
quite confident the 1109 part number will fit on both the TC and the Healey,
but as I said, it does not seal when the bleeder is pressurized.

 

Your solution looks simple!  When I get to dealing with this issue, I will
take a close look at this solution.

 

Thanks, Mirek

 

From: John Spaur <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net <mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> > 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:55 PM
To: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca <mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> ;
healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

Mirek, the recommended cap for the M.G. TC is 1109. I did call tech support
and was told there was not a cap for the Austin-Healey even though the
website states differently. Something interesting is tech support is
provided by the former company owner. He bought the company in 2008 and sold
it in September of 2023. Motive Products is located back east but tech
support is provided by the former owner and the area code for his phone is
408.

 



 

I have attached photos of my reservoir and cap. I fabricated a cap from the
lid of a PVC solvent can. It fits the reservoir and seals with one rubber
gasket on the inside.

 

Cheers,

John

 

From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca <mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>
[mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:38 AM
To: 'John Spaur' <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net <mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> >;
healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor is not
listed on my receipt.  However, they can tell you which one you need.  I
seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey listed, but the
cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and the dealer did have a
listing for the TC, although I don't see it on their web page.  Weird.  I'd
contact their support people and ask.

 

That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to seal on
the reservoir.  I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a similar problem.  It
just does not seem to screw down tight enough, although I can see no logical
reason for it not sealing.  It is on my "to do" list (but near the bottom),
to get a used reservoir and experiment to get a better fit. 

 

Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the tube
from draining out when the cap was removed.  I fitted a check valve in the
line right above the adaptor.  

 

I'd be interested to see if other listers have had issues the adaptor
sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.

 

For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just need
to find another warm body to pump the pedal.

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.teamnet
<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of John Spaur via
Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not fit
my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962 BT7.

 



 

The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.

I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.

 



 

If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product number
you could send me?

 

Thanks,

John

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From warthodson at aol.com  Thu Oct 12 07:48:48 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:48:48 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
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References: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
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 It is not an Austin Healey part that the cap has to fit. Nor is it an MG part. It is a Girling part. I am only aware of 2 Girling caps. One was metal (early & late style) & one was plastic. I suspect the threads on both caps are the same, but have not proven that. Part of the fit problem is that the threads on the cast repro master cylinders with integral reservoirs are very poor.?Gary
    On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 03:43:40 PM CDT, John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
Mirek, the recommended cap for the M.G. TC is 1109. I did call tech support and was told there was not a cap for the Austin-Healey even though the website states differently. Something interesting is tech support is provided by the former company owner. He bought the company in 2008 and sold it in September of 2023. Motive Products is located back east but tech support is provided by the former owner and the area code for his phone is 408.

 ?



 ?

I have attached photos of my reservoir and cap. I fabricated a cap from the lid of a PVC solvent can. It fits the reservoir and seals with one rubber gasket on the inside.

 ?

Cheers,

John

 ?

From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca [mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:38 AM
To: 'John Spaur' <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>; healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 ?

John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor is not listed on my receipt.? However, they can tell you which one you need.? I seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey listed, but the cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and the dealer did have a listing for the TC, although I don?t see it on their web page.? Weird.? I?d contact their support people and ask.

 ?

That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to seal on the reservoir.? I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a similar problem.? It just does not seem to screw down tight enough, although I can see no logical reason for it not sealing.? It is on my ?to do? list (but near the bottom), to get a used reservoir and experiment to get a better fit. 

 ?

Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the tube from draining out when the cap was removed.? I fitted a check valve in the line right above the adaptor.? 

 ?

I?d be interested to see if other listers have had issues the adaptor sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.

 ?

For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just need to find another warm body to pump the pedal.

 ?

Cheers, Mirek

 ?

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of John Spaur via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 ?

Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962 BT7.

 ?



 ?

The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.

I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.

 ?



 ?

If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product number you could send me?

 ?

Thanks,

John
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From warthodson at aol.com  Thu Oct 12 07:55:30 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:55:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
In-Reply-To: <0B7655FF-142A-4300-B659-8E6C52508991@gmail.com>
References: <PH7P221MB1007903BCF59AE5581B4BD60D4CDA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <000a01d9fc1b$64a5bc00$2df13400$@alexarevel.plus.com>
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 <0B7655FF-142A-4300-B659-8E6C52508991@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <873727870.11373037.1697118930713@mail.yahoo.com>

 What is the wire size for the 100's?Gary
    On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.
100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535?, 225 lbs/in, ?free length varies 11? to 12?;
MKII coils are .590?, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2?,
BJ8 coils are .610?, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4? long


Richard Mayorboyracer466 at gmail.com



On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much appreciated.? I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.? Thanks again.?

The Millers
?
"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
From:?simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
Sent:?Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
To:?'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
Cc:?'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject:?RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID?I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?SimonQUOTESimon LachlanFrom:???????? Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]Sent:????????? 11 September 1999 18:18To:???????????? Healey ListSubject:???? Results from Coil Spring Posts
?

Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil springs for the Healey.

Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.

BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?? (freestanding coil length)
BN6??????? - 12?BT7??????? ?????? - 11 13/16?BJ8??????? - 10 1/8?
?

Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.

So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgraded through the years.

More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the same.

I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that.
Thanks again,
?
Rich LocassoHuntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
?

?

?
From:?Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>?On Behalf Of?S and T Miller via Healeys
Sent:?10 October 2023 13:29
To:?healeys at autox.team.net
Subject:?[Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
?
I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.? I recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later three??TIA, Shawn?
?
The Millers
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Thu Oct 12 08:25:44 2023
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 16:25:44 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <591286848.187884.1697118528596@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
 <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$@sbcglobal.net>
 <000e01d9fc37$5842bd70$08c83850$@sympatico.ca>
 <015301d9fc6c$145a25a0$3d0e70e0$@sbcglobal.net>
 <591286848.187884.1697118528596@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48a2862f-f26d-4442-8145-2d69311be84d@chello.nl>

There are many different Girling caps with a variety of diameters.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 12-10-2023 om 15:48 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys:
> It is not an Austin Healey part that the cap has to fit. Nor is it an 
> MG part. It is a Girling part. I am only aware of 2 Girling caps. One 
> was metal (early & late style) & one was plastic. I suspect the 
> threads on both caps are the same, but have not proven that. Part of 
> the fit problem is that the threads on the cast repro master cylinders 
> with integral reservoirs are very poor.
> Gary
>
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 03:43:40 PM CDT, John Spaur via 
> Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Mirek, the recommended cap for the M.G. TC is 1109. I did call tech 
> support and was told there was not a cap for the Austin-Healey even 
> though the website states differently. Something interesting is tech 
> support is provided by the former company owner. He bought the company 
> in 2008 and sold it in September of 2023. Motive Products is located 
> back east but tech support is provided by the former owner and the 
> area code for his phone is 408.
>
> cid:image003.png at 01D9FC2F.AD1BE810
>
> I have attached photos of my reservoir and cap. I fabricated a cap 
> from the lid of a PVC solvent can. It fits the reservoir and seals 
> with one rubber gasket on the inside.
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
> *From:* m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca [mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:38 AM
> *To:* 'John Spaur' <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>; healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
>
> John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor 
> is not listed on my receipt.? However, they can tell you which one you 
> need.? I seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey 
> listed, but the cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and 
> the dealer did have a listing for the TC, although I don?t see it on 
> their web page. Weird.? I?d contact their support people and ask.
>
> That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to 
> seal on the reservoir.? I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a 
> similar problem.? It just does not seem to screw down tight enough, 
> although I can see no logical reason for it not sealing.? It is on my 
> ?to do? list (but near the bottom), to get a used reservoir and 
> experiment to get a better fit.
>
> Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the 
> tube from draining out when the cap was removed.? I fitted a check 
> valve in the line right above the adaptor.
>
> I?d be interested to see if other listers have had issues the adaptor 
> sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.
>
> For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just 
> need to find another warm body to pump the pedal.
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *John 
> Spaur via Healeys
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
>
> Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does 
> not fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I 
> have a 1962 BT7.
>
> cid:image004.png at 01D9FC2F.AD1BE810
>
> The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.
>
> I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.
>
> cid:image005.png at 01D9FC2F.AD1BE810
>
> If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product 
> number you could send me?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 08:31:57 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 10:31:57 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
In-Reply-To: <591286848.187884.1697118528596@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$.ref@sbcglobal.net>
 <011b01d9fbe7$0a042040$1e0c60c0$@sbcglobal.net>
 <000e01d9fc37$5842bd70$08c83850$@sympatico.ca>
 <015301d9fc6c$145a25a0$3d0e70e0$@sbcglobal.net>
 <591286848.187884.1697118528596@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LL1OMaXHnZy6kk1yfQNXRmVKjr5ZRfRhvg0+F52hYMaig@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps should mention that what prompted me to make the "ski boot clip"
cap was an incident where the adaptor cap supplied with my Snap-on pressure
bleeder blew off when bleeding the brake system on a  restoration car and
splattered brake fluid all over the new paint job and that of the car next
to it (which we didn't notice until too late).
The cap threads on the original Girling reservoirs and master cylinders are
not well formed so be careful if trying to use them to contain even 2 or 3
p.s.i.

M

On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:05 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> It is not an Austin Healey part that the cap has to fit. Nor is it an MG
> part. It is a Girling part. I am only aware of 2 Girling caps. One was
> metal (early & late style) & one was plastic. I suspect the threads on both
> caps are the same, but have not proven that. Part of the fit problem is
> that the threads on the cast repro master cylinders with integral
> reservoirs are very poor.
> Gary
>
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 03:43:40 PM CDT, John Spaur via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Mirek, the recommended cap for the M.G. TC is 1109. I did call tech
> support and was told there was not a cap for the Austin-Healey even though
> the website states differently. Something interesting is tech support is
> provided by the former company owner. He bought the company in 2008 and
> sold it in September of 2023. Motive Products is located back east but tech
> support is provided by the former owner and the area code for his phone is
> 408.
>
>
>
> [image: cid:image003.png at 01D9FC2F.AD1BE810]
>
>
>
> I have attached photos of my reservoir and cap. I fabricated a cap from
> the lid of a PVC solvent can. It fits the reservoir and seals with one
> rubber gasket on the inside.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca [mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:38 AM
> *To:* 'John Spaur' <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>; healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
>
>
>
> John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor is
> not listed on my receipt.  However, they can tell you which one you need.
> I seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey listed, but
> the cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and the dealer did have
> a listing for the TC, although I don?t see it on their web page.  Weird.
> I?d contact their support people and ask.
>
>
>
> That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to seal on
> the reservoir.  I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a similar problem.
> It just does not seem to screw down tight enough, although I can see no
> logical reason for it not sealing.  It is on my ?to do? list (but near the
> bottom), to get a used reservoir and experiment to get a better fit.
>
>
>
> Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the tube
> from draining out when the cap was removed.  I fitted a check valve in the
> line right above the adaptor.
>
>
>
> I?d be interested to see if other listers have had issues the adaptor
> sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.
>
>
>
> For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just need
> to find another warm body to pump the pedal.
>
>
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *John
> Spaur via Healeys
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
>
>
>
> Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not
> fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962
> BT7.
>
>
>
> [image: cid:image004.png at 01D9FC2F.AD1BE810]
>
>
>
> The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.
>
> I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.
>
>
>
> [image: cid:image005.png at 01D9FC2F.AD1BE810]
>
>
>
> If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product
> number you could send me?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 08:35:15 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 10:35:15 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
In-Reply-To: <873727870.11373037.1697118930713@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <PH7P221MB1007903BCF59AE5581B4BD60D4CDA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <000a01d9fc1b$64a5bc00$2df13400$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <PH7P221MB10079538AE9F60DA9480719AD4CCA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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On my BN2 they are 0.543" wire diameter.

On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:31 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> What is the wire size for the 100's?
> Gary
>
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, richard mayor <
> boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.
>
> 100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535?, 225 lbs/in,  free length
> varies 11? to 12?;
>
> MKII coils are .590?, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2?,
>
> BJ8 coils are .610?, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4? long
>
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much
> appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.
> Thanks again.
>
>
> The Millers
>
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
> drive."
> ------------------------------
> *From:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <
> simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
> *To:* 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>
> I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?
> Simon
> QUOTE
> Simon Lachlan
> *From:*         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]
> *Sent:*          11 September 1999 18:18
> *To:*             Healey List
> *Subject:*     Results from Coil Spring Posts
>
>
>
> Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning
> coil springs for the Healey.
>
> Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by
> owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.
>
> BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?  (freestanding coil length)
> BN6        - 12?
> BT7               - 11 13/16?
> BJ8        - 10 1/8?
>
>
>
> Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.
>
> So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been
> upgraded through the years.
>
> More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to
> earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about
> the same.
>
> I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7
> but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at
> the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am
> going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering,
> handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner
> reported, I can easily tolerate that.
> Thanks again,
>
>
> Rich Locasso
> Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *S and T
> Miller via Healeys
> *Sent:* 10 October 2023 13:29
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>
>
> I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that
> there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the
> measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the
> later three?
> TIA, Shawn
>
>
> The Millers
>
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> drive."
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From stmiller96 at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 12 10:05:57 2023
From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 16:05:57 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
In-Reply-To: <873727870.11373037.1697118930713@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <PH7P221MB1007903BCF59AE5581B4BD60D4CDA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
 <000a01d9fc1b$64a5bc00$2df13400$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <PH7P221MB10079538AE9F60DA9480719AD4CCA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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I came up with 11.18" height (O.O.C.) and .53" for the wire. Fir the 100
Shawn


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
________________________________
From: warthodson at aol.com <warthodson at aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 9:55 AM
To: S and T Miller <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>; richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

What is the wire size for the 100's?
Gary

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:


Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.

100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535?, 225 lbs/in,  free length varies 11? to 12?;

MKII coils are .590?, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2?,

BJ8 coils are .610?, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4? long



Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.  Thanks again.


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
________________________________
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
To: 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID

I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?
Simon
QUOTE
Simon Lachlan
From:         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]
Sent:          11 September 1999 18:18
To:             Healey List
Subject:     Results from Coil Spring Posts



Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil springs for the Healey.

Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.

BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?  (freestanding coil length)

BN6        - 12?
BT7               - 11 13/16?
BJ8        - 10 1/8?



Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.

So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgraded through the years.

More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the same.

I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that.

Thanks again,



Rich Locasso
Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE







From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of S and T Miller via Healeys
Sent: 10 October 2023 13:29
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID



I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later three?
TIA, Shawn



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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 12:05:09 2023
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:05:09 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
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This is what I use to bleed brakes and clutch lines.  It's quick, safe and
it simply pulls fluid from the bleeder nipple. No chance to spray brake
fluid on paint.  Just need to empty it once in a while.

https://tinyurl.com/Vacuum-Bleeder

Mike MacLean

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 9:21?AM Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Perhaps should mention that what prompted me to make the "ski boot clip"
> cap was an incident where the adaptor cap supplied with my Snap-on pressure
> bleeder blew off when bleeding the brake system on a  restoration car and
> splattered brake fluid all over the new paint job and that of the car next
> to it (which we didn't notice until too late).
> The cap threads on the original Girling reservoirs and master cylinders
> are not well formed so be careful if trying to use them to contain even 2
> or 3 p.s.i.
>
> M
>
> On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:05 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> It is not an Austin Healey part that the cap has to fit. Nor is it an MG
>> part. It is a Girling part. I am only aware of 2 Girling caps. One was
>> metal (early & late style) & one was plastic. I suspect the threads on both
>> caps are the same, but have not proven that. Part of the fit problem is
>> that the threads on the cast repro master cylinders with integral
>> reservoirs are very poor.
>> Gary
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 03:43:40 PM CDT, John Spaur via Healeys
>> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Mirek, the recommended cap for the M.G. TC is 1109. I did call tech
>> support and was told there was not a cap for the Austin-Healey even though
>> the website states differently. Something interesting is tech support is
>> provided by the former company owner. He bought the company in 2008 and
>> sold it in September of 2023. Motive Products is located back east but tech
>> support is provided by the former owner and the area code for his phone is
>> 408.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: cid:image003.png at 01D9FC2F.AD1BE810]
>>
>>
>>
>> I have attached photos of my reservoir and cap. I fabricated a cap from
>> the lid of a PVC solvent can. It fits the reservoir and seals with one
>> rubber gasket on the inside.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca [mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:38 AM
>> *To:* 'John Spaur' <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net>; healeys at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
>>
>>
>>
>> John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor is
>> not listed on my receipt.  However, they can tell you which one you need.
>> I seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey listed, but
>> the cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and the dealer did have
>> a listing for the TC, although I don?t see it on their web page.  Weird.
>> I?d contact their support people and ask.
>>
>>
>>
>> That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to seal
>> on the reservoir.  I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a similar
>> problem.  It just does not seem to screw down tight enough, although I can
>> see no logical reason for it not sealing.  It is on my ?to do? list (but
>> near the bottom), to get a used reservoir and experiment to get a better
>> fit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the tube
>> from draining out when the cap was removed.  I fitted a check valve in the
>> line right above the adaptor.
>>
>>
>>
>> I?d be interested to see if other listers have had issues the adaptor
>> sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.
>>
>>
>>
>> For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just
>> need to find another warm body to pump the pedal.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Mirek
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *John
>> Spaur via Healeys
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
>> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not
>> fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962
>> BT7.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: cid:image004.png at 01D9FC2F.AD1BE810]
>>
>>
>>
>> The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.
>>
>> I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: cid:image005.png at 01D9FC2F.AD1BE810]
>>
>>
>>
>> If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product
>> number you could send me?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Thu Oct 12 16:28:56 2023
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 15:28:56 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder
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Seems like a good product. However, I have a vacuum pump for bleeding a it was pulling air from the nipple when it was open and I could not be certain the air in the lines was fully bleed out.

 

John

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:05 AM
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>; Ahealey help <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

This is what I use to bleed brakes and clutch lines.  It's quick, safe and it simply pulls fluid from the bleeder nipple. No chance to spray brake fluid on paint.  Just need to empty it once in a while.

 

https://tinyurl.com/Vacuum-Bleeder

 

Mike MacLean

 

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 9:21?AM Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> > wrote:

Perhaps should mention that what prompted me to make the "ski boot clip"  cap was an incident where the adaptor cap supplied with my Snap-on pressure bleeder blew off when bleeding the brake system on a  restoration car and splattered brake fluid all over the new paint job and that of the car next to it (which we didn't notice until too late).

The cap threads on the original Girling reservoirs and master cylinders are not well formed so be careful if trying to use them to contain even 2 or 3 p.s.i.

 

M

 

On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:05 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

It is not an Austin Healey part that the cap has to fit. Nor is it an MG part. It is a Girling part. I am only aware of 2 Girling caps. One was metal (early & late style) & one was plastic. I suspect the threads on both caps are the same, but have not proven that. Part of the fit problem is that the threads on the cast repro master cylinders with integral reservoirs are very poor. 

Gary

 

On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 03:43:40 PM CDT, John Spaur via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Mirek, the recommended cap for the M.G. TC is 1109. I did call tech support and was told there was not a cap for the Austin-Healey even though the website states differently. Something interesting is tech support is provided by the former company owner. He bought the company in 2008 and sold it in September of 2023. Motive Products is located back east but tech support is provided by the former owner and the area code for his phone is 408.

 



 

I have attached photos of my reservoir and cap. I fabricated a cap from the lid of a PVC solvent can. It fits the reservoir and seals with one rubber gasket on the inside.

 

Cheers,

John

 

From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca <mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca>  [mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca <mailto:m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:38 AM
To: 'John Spaur' <jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net <mailto:jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net> >; healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

John, I have this same bleeder but the product number for the adaptor is not listed on my receipt.  However, they can tell you which one you need  I seem to recall that oddly they did not have an early Healey listed, but the cap on the reservoir is the same as my M.G. TC, and the dealer did have a listing for the TC, although I don?t see it on their web page.  Weird.  I?d contact their support people and ask.

 

That said, I have never been able to get the cap on the bleeder to seal on the reservoir.  I mentioned it to Mike Salter who had a similar problem.  It just does not seem to screw down tight enough, although I can see no logical reason for it not sealing.  It is on my ?to do? list (but near the bottom), to get a used reservoir and experiment to get a better fit. 

 

Lastly, I could not see how one would prevent the brake fluid in the tube from draining out when the cap was removed.  I fitted a check valve in the line right above the adaptor.  

 

I?d be interested to see if other listers have had issues the adaptor sealing on the reservoir and how they solved it.

 

For now, I am back to the old school method and it works fine, I just need to find another warm body to pump the pedal.

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of John Spaur via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:03 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Healeys] Motive Products Power Bleeder

 

Does anyone have one of these? I bought one and the Girling cap does not fit my Moss Motors Classic Gold brake/clutch fluid reservoir. I have a 1962 BT7.

 



 

The adaptor above is the red cap and hose, the Girling one.

I think I need the 1100 adaptor pictured below.

 



 

If you have one, which adaptor did you have and do you have a product number you could send me?

 

Thanks,

John

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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 16:38:53 2023
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (Ricchardd Mayor)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 15:38:53 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
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Are you sure it's .543?   Did you clean off the paint, and/or rust, before you took this measurement?  The wire sizes I listed were obtained after I measured many examples.  


Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com


> On Oct 12, 2023, at 7:35 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On my BN2 they are 0.543" wire diameter. 
> 
> On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:31 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> What is the wire size for the 100's?
> Gary
> 
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.
> 
> 100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535?, 225 lbs/in,  free length varies 11? to 12?;
> 
> MKII coils are .590?, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2?,
> 
> BJ8 coils are .610?, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4? long
> 
> 
> 
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
> 
> Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.  Thanks again. 
> 
> 
> The Millers
>  
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
> From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
> To: 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com <mailto:stmiller96 at hotmail.com>>
> Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>  
> I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?
> Simon
> QUOTE
> Simon Lachlan
> From:         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]
> Sent:          11 September 1999 18:18
> To:             Healey List
> Subject:     Results from Coil Spring Posts
>  
> Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil springs for the Healey.
> 
> Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.
> 
> BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?  (freestanding coil length)
> 
> BN6        - 12?
> BT7               - 11 13/16?
> BJ8        - 10 1/8?
>  
> Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.
> 
> So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgraded through the years.
> 
> More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the same.
> 
> I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that.
> 
> Thanks again,
>  
> Rich Locasso
> Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
>  
>  
>  
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of S and T Miller via Healeys
> Sent: 10 October 2023 13:29
> To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>  
> I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later three? 
> TIA, Shawn 
>  
> The Millers
>  
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 17:47:07 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 19:47:07 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
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I didn't clean off the paint Richard as these are on my 27K mile BN2
and very clean. I'm sure the paint is no more than 0.005 x 2
thicknesses so the steel is probably 0.53125 (17/32).

M

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 6:38?PM Ricchardd Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Are you sure it's .543?   Did you clean off the paint, and/or rust, before you took this measurement?  The wire sizes I listed were obtained after I measured many examples.
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2023, at 7:35 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On my BN2 they are 0.543" wire diameter.
>
> On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:31 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> What is the wire size for the 100's?
>> Gary
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.
>>
>> 100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535?, 225 lbs/in,  free length varies 11? to 12?;
>>
>> MKII coils are .590?, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2?,
>>
>> BJ8 coils are .610?, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4? long
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Mayor
>> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.  Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> The Millers
>>
>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
>> ________________________________
>> From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
>> To: 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>>
>> I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?
>> Simon
>> QUOTE
>> Simon Lachlan
>> From:         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]
>> Sent:          11 September 1999 18:18
>> To:             Healey List
>> Subject:     Results from Coil Spring Posts
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil springs for the Healey.
>>
>> Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.
>>
>> BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?  (freestanding coil length)
>>
>> BN6        - 12?
>> BT7               - 11 13/16?
>> BJ8        - 10 1/8?
>>
>>
>>
>> Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.
>>
>> So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgraded through the years.
>>
>> More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the same.
>>
>> I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>>
>>
>> Rich Locasso
>> Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of S and T Miller via Healeys
>> Sent: 10 October 2023 13:29
>> To: healeys at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>>
>>
>>
>> I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later three?
>> TIA, Shawn
>>
>>
>>
>> The Millers
>>
>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 18:42:38 2023
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 20:42:38 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
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Must be the Coriolis Effect.

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 8:33?PM Ricchardd Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Are you sure it's .543?   Did you clean off the paint, and/or rust, before
> you took this measurement?  The wire sizes I listed were obtained after I
> measured many examples.
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2023, at 7:35 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> On my BN2 they are 0.543" wire diameter.
>
> On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:31 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> What is the wire size for the 100's?
>> Gary
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, richard mayor <
>> boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.
>>
>> 100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535?, 225 lbs/in,  free length
>> varies 11? to 12?;
>>
>> MKII coils are .590?, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2?,
>>
>> BJ8 coils are .610?, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4? long
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Mayor
>> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much
>> appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.
>> Thanks again.
>>
>>
>> The Millers
>>
>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
>> drive."
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <
>> simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
>> *To:* 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
>> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>>
>> I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?
>> Simon
>> QUOTE
>> Simon Lachlan
>> *From:*         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]
>> *Sent:*          11 September 1999 18:18
>> *To:*             Healey List
>> *Subject:*     Results from Coil Spring Posts
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning
>> coil springs for the Healey.
>>
>> Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by
>> owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.
>>
>> BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?  (freestanding coil length)
>> BN6        - 12?
>> BT7               - 11 13/16?
>> BJ8        - 10 1/8?
>>
>>
>>
>> Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.
>>
>> So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been
>> upgraded through the years.
>>
>> More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to
>> earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about
>> the same.
>>
>> I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my
>> BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified
>> at the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am
>> going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering,
>> handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner
>> reported, I can easily tolerate that.
>> Thanks again,
>>
>>
>> Rich Locasso
>> Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *S and T
>> Miller via Healeys
>> *Sent:* 10 October 2023 13:29
>> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>>
>>
>> I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that
>> there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the
>> measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the
>> later three?
>> TIA, Shawn
>>
>>
>> The Millers
>>
>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
>> drive."
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 12 18:51:42 2023
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (Ricchardd Mayor)
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 17:51:42 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
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Michael,   That?s it!


Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com


> On Oct 12, 2023, at 5:42 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Must be the Coriolis Effect.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 8:33?PM Ricchardd Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Are you sure it's .543?   Did you clean off the paint, and/or rust, before you took this measurement?  The wire sizes I listed were obtained after I measured many examples.  
> 
> 
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> 
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2023, at 7:35 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> On my BN2 they are 0.543" wire diameter. 
>> 
>> On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:31 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> What is the wire size for the 100's?
>> Gary
>> 
>> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.
>> 
>> 100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535?, 225 lbs/in,  free length varies 11? to 12?;
>> 
>> MKII coils are .590?, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2?,
>> 
>> BJ8 coils are .610?, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4? long
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard Mayor
>> boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.  Thanks again. 
>> 
>> 
>> The Millers
>>  
>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
>> From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
>> To: 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com <mailto:stmiller96 at hotmail.com>>
>> Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
>> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>>  
>> I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?
>> Simon
>> QUOTE
>> Simon Lachlan
>> From:         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com <mailto:LifeisRich at MacConnect.com>]
>> Sent:          11 September 1999 18:18
>> To:             Healey List
>> Subject:     Results from Coil Spring Posts
>>  
>> Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil springs for the Healey.
>> 
>> Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.
>> 
>> BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?  (freestanding coil length)
>> 
>> BN6        - 12?
>> BT7               - 11 13/16?
>> BJ8        - 10 1/8?
>>  
>> Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.
>> 
>> So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgraded through the years.
>> 
>> More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the same.
>> 
>> I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>>  
>> Rich Locasso
>> Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of S and T Miller via Healeys
>> Sent: 10 October 2023 13:29
>> To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>>  
>> I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later three? 
>> TIA, Shawn 
>>  
>> The Millers
>>  
>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Fri Oct 13 04:06:37 2023
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (C. Oudesluijs)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 12:06:37 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
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To compare the characterisques of the Springsteen you also need the diameter of the spring and the number of coils.
Kees Oudesluijs 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 13 okt. 2023 om 04:57 heeft Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> ?
> Must be the Coriolis Effect.
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 8:33?PM Ricchardd Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Are you sure it's .543?   Did you clean off the paint, and/or rust, before you took this measurement?  The wire sizes I listed were obtained after I measured many examples.  
>> 
>> 
>> Richard Mayor
>> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2023, at 7:35 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On my BN2 they are 0.543" wire diameter. 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:31 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>> What is the wire size for the 100's?
>>>> Gary
>>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.
>>>> 
>>>> 100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535?, 225 lbs/in,  free length varies 11? to 12?;
>>>> 
>>>> MKII coils are .590?, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2?,
>>>> 
>>>> BJ8 coils are .610?, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4? long
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard Mayor
>>>> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very helpful and much appreciated.  I had assumed the opposite when it came to spring length.  Thanks again. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The Millers
>>>>  
>>>> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test drive."
>>>> From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
>>>> To: 'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
>>>> Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>>> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>>>>  
>>>> I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?
>>>> Simon
>>>> QUOTE
>>>> Simon Lachlan
>>>> From:         Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]
>>>> Sent:          11 September 1999 18:18
>>>> To:             Healey List
>>>> Subject:     Results from Coil Spring Posts
>>>>  
>>>> Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions concerning coil springs for the Healey.
>>>> 
>>>> Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil length taken by owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was a recollection of one owner.
>>>> 
>>>> BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15?  (freestanding coil length)
>>>> 
>>>> BN6        - 12?
>>>> BT7               - 11 13/16?
>>>> BJ8        - 10 1/8?
>>>>  
>>>> Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.
>>>> 
>>>> So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it has been upgraded through the years.
>>>> 
>>>> More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8 coil to earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height was unchanged or about the same.
>>>> 
>>>> I started this thread because Moss recommended the early spring for my BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to install the spring specified at the end of the development cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am going to buy the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in cornering, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>  
>>>> Rich Locasso
>>>> Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of S and T Miller via Healeys
>>>> Sent: 10 October 2023 13:29
>>>> To: healeys at autox.team.net
>>>> Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>>>>  
>>>> I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.  I recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8. I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was wondering if anyone had the specs for the later three? 
>>>> TIA, Shawn 
>>>>  
>>>> The Millers
>>>>  
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Fri Oct 13 06:18:06 2023
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 14:18:06 +0200
Subject: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
In-Reply-To: <7854AD31-3DC6-4ADF-BE85-BEB342BF9107@chello.nl>
References: <CAPTa0B4h1NmHyi1oJsWwLBcb9KL1D5NaO_wdavJZXj3_E64Pmw@mail.gmail.com>
 <7854AD31-3DC6-4ADF-BE85-BEB342BF9107@chello.nl>
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Automatic spelling control: "Springsteen" should of course read spring!!!!

Op 13-10-2023 om 12:06 schreef C. Oudesluijs:
> To compare the characterisques of the Springsteen you also need the 
> diameter of the spring and the number of coils.
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
>
>> Op 13 okt. 2023 om 04:57 heeft Michael Oritt 
>> <michael.oritt at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>
>> ?
>> Must be the Coriolis Effect.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 8:33?PM Ricchardd Mayor 
>> <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>     Are you sure it's .543? ? Did you clean off the paint, and/or
>>     rust, before you took this measurement?? The wire sizes I listed
>>     were obtained after I measured many examples.
>>
>>
>>     Richard?Mayor
>>     boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>>     On Oct 12, 2023, at 7:35 AM, Michael Salter
>>>     <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     On my BN2 they are 0.543" wire diameter.
>>>
>>>     On Thu., Oct. 12, 2023, 10:31 a.m. warthodson--- via Healeys,
>>>     <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>         What is the wire size for the 100's?
>>>         Gary
>>>
>>>         On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 01:30:23 PM CDT, richard
>>>         mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         Wire size is the way to identify coil spring rates.
>>>
>>>         100/6s and early 3000s had a wire size of .535?, 225 lbs/in,
>>>         ?free length varies 11? to 12?;
>>>
>>>         MKII coils are .590?, 330 lbs/in, free length approx. 10-1/2?,
>>>
>>>         BJ8 coils are .610?, 385 lbs/in, free length approx 10-1/4? long
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Richard Mayor
>>>         boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>         On Oct 11, 2023, at 3:17 AM, S and T Miller via Healeys
>>>>         <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>         Thank you so much for taking the time to find this! Very
>>>         helpful and much appreciated.? I had assumed the opposite
>>>         when it came to spring length.? Thanks again.
>>>
>>>
>>>         The Millers
>>>
>>>         "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique
>>>         car is a test drive."
>>>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>         *From:*simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
>>>         <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
>>>         *Sent:*Wednesday, October 11, 2023 4:17 AM
>>>         *To:*'S and T Miller' <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
>>>         *Cc:*'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>>         *Subject:*RE: [Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>>>         I dug this out of my records if it?s any use?
>>>         Simon
>>>         QUOTE
>>>         Simon Lachlan
>>>         *From:*Rich Locasso [LifeisRich at MacConnect.com]
>>>         *Sent:*11 September 1999 18:18
>>>         *To:*Healey List
>>>         *Subject:*Results from Coil Spring Posts
>>>
>>>         Thanks to the many individuals who helped with my questions
>>>         concerning coil springs for the Healey.
>>>
>>>         Below are listed actual measurements of freestanding coil
>>>         length taken by owners, except for the BN1-4 coil, which was
>>>         a recollection of one owner.
>>>
>>>         BN1 to BN4 - 14?-15? (freestanding coil length)
>>>
>>>         BN6 - 12?
>>>         BT7 ?????? - 11 13/16?
>>>         BJ8 - 10 1/8?
>>>
>>>         Coil thickness through BT7 was ?? and for the BJ8 was 5/8?.
>>>
>>>         So the Healey front coil has become shorter and firmer as it
>>>         has been upgraded through the years.
>>>
>>>         More important, a number of owners reported fitting the BJ8
>>>         coil to earlier Healeys without problem and said ride height
>>>         was unchanged or about the same.
>>>
>>>         I started this thread because Moss recommended the early
>>>         spring for my BT7 but logically it made more sense to me to
>>>         install the spring specified at the end of the development
>>>         cycle (BJ8) than at the beginning (BN1). I am going to buy
>>>         the BJ8 spring because it will reduce body roll in
>>>         cornering, handle a little better, and if it has a slightly
>>>         firmer ride as one owner reported, I can easily tolerate that.
>>>
>>>         Thanks again,
>>>
>>>         Rich Locasso
>>>         Huntington Beach, CA UNQUOTE
>>>
>>>         *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>*On Behalf
>>>         Of*S and T Miller via Healeys
>>>         *Sent:*10 October 2023 13:29
>>>         *To:*healeys at autox.team.net
>>>         *Subject:*[Healeys] Ft. Coil Springs ID
>>>
>>>         I have several ft coil springs that I'd like to identify.? I
>>>         recall that there were 4 variations from the 100 to the BJ8.
>>>         I believe I have the measurements for the 100, but was
>>>         wondering if anyone had the specs for the later three?
>>>         TIA, Shawn
>>>
>>>         The Millers
>>>
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>>>         car is a test drive."
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From warthodson at aol.com  Fri Oct 13 06:55:25 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 12:55:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] parts identification
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Message-ID: <143942236.1756401.1697201726622@mail.yahoo.com>

 I have the 4 parts below that I cannot identify. They are aluminum & about 1,25" X 1.25" X .06 inch thick. Can anyone identify them?Gary Hodson
   
  
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Fri Oct 13 08:31:40 2023
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 14:31:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] parts identification
In-Reply-To: <143942236.1756401.1697201726622@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <693550749.15216489.1697207500206@mail.yahoo.com>

They are shaped like the brackets that go into the shroud to secure a hold-down strap for the hood (er, bonnet) on a 100.


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Friday, October 13, 2023, 9:39 AM, warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

 I have the 4 parts below that I cannot identify. They are aluminum & about 1,25" X 1.25" X .06 inch thick. Can anyone identify them?Gary Hodson
   
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Sat Oct 14 04:10:50 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 11:10:50 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Test
Message-ID: <000801d9fe86$b731d770$25958650$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Sent a couple of messages which apparently not arrived..

What's max size of attachments?

Thanks,

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From mark at bradakis.com  Sat Oct 14 08:51:04 2023
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 08:51:04 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] Test
In-Reply-To: <000801d9fe86$b731d770$25958650$@alexarevel.plus.com>
References: <000801d9fe86$b731d770$25958650$@alexarevel.plus.com>
Message-ID: <b435ef68-abe5-3666-19b6-f7598206a0e5@bradakis.com>

On 10/14/23 4:10 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
> Sent a couple of messages which apparently not arrived??
> 
> What?s max size of attachments?

I don't think there is a limit on attachment size for this list.  If 
there is, you should have gotten a message from mailman about how your 
posting was too large.  If they are fairly large, it may take some time, 
like many hours, for them to make their way through the maze of twisty 
little passages that comprise the mailman system on Team Net.

mjb.



From bspidell at comcast.net  Sat Oct 14 09:44:41 2023
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 08:44:41 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Test
In-Reply-To: <b435ef68-abe5-3666-19b6-f7598206a0e5@bradakis.com>
References: <000801d9fe86$b731d770$25958650$@alexarevel.plus.com>
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Message-ID: <19319eed-e51d-4f92-8f57-c21f8639a852@comcast.net>

I get rejected, with a message, if I leave too many recipients on a 
reply. Thunderbird's 'Reply to List' option prevents that.

bs

ps. I remember the days when you had to trim the lengthening list of 
reply addresses; still do it by force of habit.


On 10/14/2023 7:51 AM, Mark Bradakis via Healeys wrote:
> On 10/14/23 4:10 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote:
>> Sent a couple of messages which apparently not arrived??
>>
>> What?s max size of attachments?
>
> I don't think there is a limit on attachment size for this list. If 
> there is, you should have gotten a message from mailman about how your 
> posting was too large.? If they are fairly large, it may take some 
> time, like many hours, for them to make their way through the maze of 
> twisty little passages that comprise the mailman system on Team Net.
>
> mjb.
>
>

From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 14 16:32:22 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 15:32:22 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] My MGB
Message-ID: <CABXhz88MWu11GqzPd=tzEHjvq0LLz4i6sr8fS32yCNsNp0Aygw@mail.gmail.com>

So I know longer need to fix the windscreen on my B
After paying a guy to bring it back from a lot of storage. My health has
not been great for a while, it runs and stops great, but steering was
binding. I took it to another shop. The new guy shows me that the car has a
bent front frame. A piece of info the guy in Albuquerque failed the
disclose when he sold me a great car, and the mechanic who worked on it to
the tube of $5500 never noticed. So I now have a $2500 parts car at a loss
of $7k to me.
Sorry ? can't report back on how the glass restore kit works.
Moral,even if you have known a guy on this list for many years, have the
car inspected by someone else .

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6
1967 MGB Roadster
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From jim at jimbunte.com  Sat Oct 14 17:29:18 2023
From: jim at jimbunte.com (Jim Bunte)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 18:29:18 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] My MGB
In-Reply-To: <CABXhz88MWu11GqzPd=tzEHjvq0LLz4i6sr8fS32yCNsNp0Aygw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABXhz88MWu11GqzPd=tzEHjvq0LLz4i6sr8fS32yCNsNp0Aygw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAN1UUfUJHRD-zzayC0mRZOG8pp6_cNaz6ucsXF3T_n5pQQORFQ@mail.gmail.com>

Are you selling the MGB?

On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 6:00 PM i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> So I know longer need to fix the windscreen on my B
> After paying a guy to bring it back from a lot of storage. My health has
> not been great for a while, it runs and stops great, but steering was
> binding. I took it to another shop. The new guy shows me that the car has a
> bent front frame. A piece of info the guy in Albuquerque failed the
> disclose when he sold me a great car, and the mechanic who worked on it to
> the tube of $5500 never noticed. So I now have a $2500 parts car at a loss
> of $7k to me.
> Sorry ? can't report back on how the glass restore kit works.
> Moral,even if you have known a guy on this list for many years, have the
> car inspected by someone else .
>
> Ira Erbs
> Milwaukie, OR
> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6
> 1967 MGB Roadster
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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 14 19:05:24 2023
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 18:05:24 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] My MGB
In-Reply-To: <CAN1UUfUJHRD-zzayC0mRZOG8pp6_cNaz6ucsXF3T_n5pQQORFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABXhz88MWu11GqzPd=tzEHjvq0LLz4i6sr8fS32yCNsNp0Aygw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAN1UUfUJHRD-zzayC0mRZOG8pp6_cNaz6ucsXF3T_n5pQQORFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL4ZEONKihXDjxnD1mAmOG8JGW4W4RRCRE1eWkSfUs4KMuJOeQ@mail.gmail.com>

I am selling my 69 MGB GT.
Mike MacLean

On Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 5:27 PM Jim Bunte via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Are you selling the MGB?
>
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 6:00 PM i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> So I know longer need to fix the windscreen on my B
>> After paying a guy to bring it back from a lot of storage. My health has
>> not been great for a while, it runs and stops great, but steering was
>> binding. I took it to another shop. The new guy shows me that the car has a
>> bent front frame. A piece of info the guy in Albuquerque failed the
>> disclose when he sold me a great car, and the mechanic who worked on it to
>> the tube of $5500 never noticed. So I now have a $2500 parts car at a loss
>> of $7k to me.
>> Sorry ? can't report back on how the glass restore kit works.
>> Moral,even if you have known a guy on this list for many years, have the
>> car inspected by someone else .
>>
>> Ira Erbs
>> Milwaukie, OR
>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6
>> 1967 MGB Roadster
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 14 19:38:18 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 18:38:18 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] My MGB
In-Reply-To: <CAL4ZEONKihXDjxnD1mAmOG8JGW4W4RRCRE1eWkSfUs4KMuJOeQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABXhz88MWu11GqzPd=tzEHjvq0LLz4i6sr8fS32yCNsNp0Aygw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAN1UUfUJHRD-zzayC0mRZOG8pp6_cNaz6ucsXF3T_n5pQQORFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAL4ZEONKihXDjxnD1mAmOG8JGW4W4RRCRE1eWkSfUs4KMuJOeQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABXhz8_uQX4798B_eZ6378xyMK8d5v6jQYQwQL3K1yzbP6CbNA@mail.gmail.com>

Wife wants a roadstet. I bought it for her as a present for years ago and
then my health went south, so I sent to a well known shop to work on it...
Good luck with your sale

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6
1967 MGB Roadster

On Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 6:35 PM Michael MacLean <springer.mike51 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am selling my 69 MGB GT.
> Mike MacLean
>
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 5:27 PM Jim Bunte via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Are you selling the MGB?
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 6:00 PM i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> So I know longer need to fix the windscreen on my B
>>> After paying a guy to bring it back from a lot of storage. My health
>>> has  not been great for a while, it runs and stops great, but steering was
>>> binding. I took it to another shop. The new guy shows me that the car has a
>>> bent front frame. A piece of info the guy in Albuquerque failed the
>>> disclose when he sold me a great car, and the mechanic who worked on it to
>>> the tube of $5500 never noticed. So I now have a $2500 parts car at a loss
>>> of $7k to me.
>>> Sorry ? can't report back on how the glass restore kit works.
>>> Moral,even if you have known a guy on this list for many years, have the
>>> car inspected by someone else .
>>>
>>> Ira Erbs
>>> Milwaukie, OR
>>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6
>>> 1967 MGB Roadster
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From tahoehealey at hotmail.com  Sat Oct 14 21:16:22 2023
From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 03:16:22 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] fog light wiring
Message-ID: <BY5PR07MB6514927B949968D24F01334CA4D0A@BY5PR07MB6514.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

I am in need of a wiring diagram for fog lights using 3 relays (one for the high beams, one for low and one for the fog lights) .  I am using a 3-position dash switch (off, dash lights and dash light with fog lights).  I had this set up until I had a failure at the Tahoe California Healey Week and now, I cannot find the notes and diagrams I used 15+ years ago.  Help!
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From kentmclean at comcast.net  Sun Oct 15 12:43:07 2023
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 14:43:07 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] fog light wiring
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1697392801.6451.healeys@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.1.1697392801.6451.healeys@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <0351DFB1-4BFB-4B85-AA74-D720C42DE1C4@comcast.net>

Richard Kahn wrote:
> I am in need of a wiring diagram for fog lights using 3 relays (one for the high beams, one for low and one for the fog lights) .  

Here's one for the highs and lows. Thank you, Google.  Wiring the relays is the same. How you wire it into the switch will vary, depending on the switch.
http://www.vclassics.com/archive/relays.htm


From kentmclean at comcast.net  Sun Oct 15 13:32:26 2023
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2023 15:32:26 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] fog light wiring
In-Reply-To: <BY5PR07MB6514003B74771E83AD377DDEA4D0A@BY5PR07MB6514.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <mailman.1.1697392801.6451.healeys@autox.team.net>
 <0351DFB1-4BFB-4B85-AA74-D720C42DE1C4@comcast.net>
 <BY5PR07MB6514003B74771E83AD377DDEA4D0A@BY5PR07MB6514.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <53BBF7D9-6F7C-4923-8CE9-BFAF8366216D@comcast.net>

Richard Kahn wrote:
> Thank you, Kent. That will help, but I still need the wiring to the fog lights. In California, it is necessary to have the fog lights go off when the high beams are on. 

All righty, then. Here's another relay to make that happen.
https://www.the12volt.com/relays/relaydiagram76.html


From kentmclean at comcast.net  Mon Oct 16 04:10:26 2023
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 06:10:26 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] fog light wiring
References: <CAOqP0S+0+JNjDJ_O2LGPW6yFjNGePQtvUrshcnfSABR+=g9Uig@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8E78809A-154D-4223-A702-B958308B81B9@comcast.net>

Tome Mitchell sent me this, but it should have gone to Richard Kahn. I'm forwarding to the list so everyone can benefit. Click on the images to see them full size.

> From: Tom Mitchell <drtommitch at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] fog light wiring
> 
> Hi Kent,
> I moved my instrument panel lights (wire) to my headlight switch.
> (BTW since I'm running Halogen headlights, I installed relays to handle the load).
?
?
> That left me an extra switch, so I installed a separate headlight switch for my fog lights with relays.
?
> My plan (some day) is to install motorcycle LED headlights, so I have two sets of low and two for high.
> 
> In order to turn off the fog lights when the High Beams are on, you'd have to change the wiring.
> In my case my running light wire/power also feeds the foglight switch.
> Humm I'd have to really study this, yet maybe my notes can help you?
> 
> Tom Mitchell
> Ann Arbor, MI.
> 1965 BJ8
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 4:04?PM Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net <mailto:kentmclean at comcast.net>> wrote:
>> Richard Kahn wrote:
>> > Thank you, Kent. That will help, but I still need the wiring to the fog lights. In California, it is necessary to have the fog lights go off when the high beams are on. 
>> 
>> All righty, then. Here's another relay to make that happen.
>> https://www.the12volt.com/relays/relaydiagram76.html
>> 
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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Wed Oct 18 07:39:51 2023
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 07:39:51 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] A90 Engine up for sale
Message-ID: <85e285b3-7c63-4782-95da-f84601ac5a41@porterscustom.com>

According to the previous owner it was rebuilt long ago enough that 
Buick pistons were used. It's not been run and it turns by hand and does 
make compression.

It's missing a few bits;pressure relief valve, oil filter assembly, a 
few nuts and bolts.. that's about all I know about it. I have carbs and 
manifold and other correct ancillaries if needed..

Priced in these tough economic times at $2500.00 plus any shipping costs 
I incur.

Dave

-- 
Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 505-352-1378  My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/


From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Wed Oct 18 07:41:06 2023
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 07:41:06 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: A90 Engine up for sale
In-Reply-To: <85e285b3-7c63-4782-95da-f84601ac5a41@porterscustom.com>
References: <85e285b3-7c63-4782-95da-f84601ac5a41@porterscustom.com>
Message-ID: <40b4b01b-8712-4d49-bed4-d1a3fd3bdc3f@porterscustom.com>

oops, pics



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	A90 Engine up for sale
Date: 	Wed, 18 Oct 2023 07:39:51 -0600
From: 	David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
To: 	healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>



According to the previous owner it was rebuilt long ago enough that 
Buick pistons were used. It's not been run and it turns by hand and does 
make compression.

It's missing a few bits;pressure relief valve, oil filter assembly, a 
few nuts and bolts.. that's about all I know about it. I have carbs and 
manifold and other correct ancillaries if needed..

Priced in these tough economic times at $2500.00 plus any shipping costs 
I incur.

Dave

-- 
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From manifold at telus.net  Wed Oct 18 16:40:53 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 15:40:53 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Phoenix Repair Shop Recommendation
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCB7k06pUAen7OtQyMTS4t9jXYS-16CaMVUVcupJsHpREg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

One of our friends in the Healey community has recently arrived in Phoenix,
AZ with his recently restored Austin-Healey BT7 with a newly rebuilt
engine. The engine needs some attention. Can anyone recommend a reliable
shop in the Phoenix area that knows their way around a 3000 engine?

Thanks.... Harold
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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Wed Oct 18 17:36:32 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 07:36:32 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: A90 Engine up for sale
In-Reply-To: <40b4b01b-8712-4d49-bed4-d1a3fd3bdc3f@porterscustom.com>
References: <85e285b3-7c63-4782-95da-f84601ac5a41@porterscustom.com>
 <40b4b01b-8712-4d49-bed4-d1a3fd3bdc3f@porterscustom.com>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTk+N3gUgaEzZ-utUySNL+aq8u8gLvYZSzcR0ErC_75FyFA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi David -

I'll circle this around the A90 folks for you.

Best,

Alan

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 10:33?PM David P via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> oops, pics
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: A90 Engine up for sale
> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 07:39:51 -0600
> From: David P <frogeye at porterscustom.com> <frogeye at porterscustom.com>
> To: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
> <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
> According to the previous owner it was rebuilt long ago enough that Buick
> pistons were used. It's not been run and it turns by hand and does make
> compression.
>
> It's missing a few bits;pressure relief valve, oil filter assembly, a few
> nuts and bolts.. that's about all I know about it. I have carbs and
> manifold and other correct ancillaries if needed..
>
> Priced in these tough economic times at $2500.00 plus any shipping costs I
> incur.
>
> Dave
>
> --
> Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 505-352-1378  My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/
>
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From rubino at truespeed.ca  Thu Oct 19 16:19:36 2023
From: rubino at truespeed.ca (rubino at truespeed.ca)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 22:19:36 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjusters
Message-ID: <eme650f811-5246-44c2-abd0-0651f1445d7c@p6520f>

As my age progresses the curvature of my back does also. Somebody out 
there offers a kit for adjusting the slant of the seat back.
Who?
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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Thu Oct 19 17:47:29 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 07:47:29 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjusters
In-Reply-To: <eme650f811-5246-44c2-abd0-0651f1445d7c@p6520f>
References: <eme650f811-5246-44c2-abd0-0651f1445d7c@p6520f>
Message-ID: <CAFBXTkL-qt5_9pPGcneedSxqEOb=6xsY9e0UPwLHf8X4P3vxLQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Carl -

A common trick is to install a 1" high oak wedge from front to 0"  back on
the seat runners, and that will cant the seat back a couple degrees and
make it very comfortable.  I did this on my BJ8.

Best,

Alan

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 6:51?AM carl and gerry rubino via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> As my age progresses the curvature of my back does also. Somebody out
> there offers a kit for adjusting the slant of the seat back.
> Who?
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From tahoehealey at hotmail.com  Thu Oct 19 18:48:28 2023
From: tahoehealey at hotmail.com (Richard Kahn)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 00:48:28 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjusters
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Caution is that you cannot use the shelf in the down position.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

?
Hi Carl -

A common trick is to install a 1" high oak wedge from front to 0"  back on the seat runners, and that will cant the seat back a couple degrees and make it very comfortable.  I did this on my BJ8.

Best,

Alan

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 6:51?AM carl and gerry rubino via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
As my age progresses the curvature of my back does also. Somebody out there offers a kit for adjusting the slant of the seat back.
Who?
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From javrugtman at htcnet.org  Thu Oct 19 19:02:51 2023
From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 21:02:51 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjusters
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Allen Hendrix has a kit.? it involves raising the pivot point of the 
seat back.? I have them on mine, it is quite helpful.? Does require a 
little grinding and welding.
hendrixwirewheel.com <hendrixwirewhell.com>
John
BJ8

On 10/19/2023 6:19 PM, carl and gerry rubino via Healeys wrote:
> As my age progresses the curvature of my back does also. Somebody out 
> there offers a kit for adjusting the slant of the seat back.
> Who?
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From cfrazer at uoregon.edu  Thu Oct 19 19:03:49 2023
From: cfrazer at uoregon.edu (Charles Frazer)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 01:03:49 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjusters
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Can anyone supply a measured drawing?

On Oct 19, 2023, at 4:47 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Hi Carl -

A common trick is to install a 1" high oak wedge from front to 0"  back on the seat runners, and that will cant the seat back a couple degrees and make it very comfortable.  I did this on my BJ8.

Best,

Alan

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From a2garrison at charter.net  Thu Oct 19 19:37:16 2023
From: a2garrison at charter.net (Alan Garrison)
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 21:37:16 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjusters
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Alan Hendrix. I installed his kit last winter on my BN6 and love it.

Alan

> On Oct 19, 2023, at 7:03?PM, carl and gerry rubino via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Fri Oct 20 01:32:29 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 15:32:29 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjusters
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Seems to be okay on my BJ8, but maybe I didn't cant it as much as you.

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:48?AM Richard Kahn <tahoehealey at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Caution is that you cannot use the shelf in the down position.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 19, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?
> Hi Carl -
>
> A common trick is to install a 1" high oak wedge from front to 0"  back on
> the seat runners, and that will cant the seat back a couple degrees and
> make it very comfortable.  I did this on my BJ8.
>
> Best,
>
> Alan
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 6:51?AM carl and gerry rubino via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
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From 2x2doc at gmail.com  Fri Oct 20 07:33:38 2023
From: 2x2doc at gmail.com (patrick williams)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 09:33:38 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket
Message-ID: <CAPHe+_b4z4UQtD=rjkZHtS1Kc_QB712uMS_+Pn6VObNLeEQrng@mail.gmail.com>

I have the excellent Ray Juncal rocker cover with a cork gasket.  I noticed
that Moss sells a silicone gasket.   So 2 questions for the list:
1.  Is the silicone gasket worth it?
2.  Moss has 2 versions, one for the original rocker cover and one for
"alloy covers". No other explanation.   Anyone have an opinion on which to
get?
Thanks.
Pat Williams
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From airtightproductions at me.com  Fri Oct 20 09:26:21 2023
From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 15:26:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket
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Patrick,I also have Ray's rocker cover and I just switched over to the silicone gasket and found that it seals much better and have less oil seeping around the edges. I used the one for the "original" cover, because it was what I had. It has a flat side and a rounded side side. I used Permatex blue silicone sealant and lightly coated the flat side of the gasket and adhered that to Ray's rocker cover. With the gasket in place, I set the rocker cover on a completely flat surface and let it sit for a couple of hours, letting the Permatex cure to the cover. I then placed it back on my head, tightened it down and didn't run the engine for a day.?I was very pleased when I did run the engine as to how much better the rocker cover sealed to the head. With the cork gasket, I always had a little oil seepage. I have also taken the rocker cover off now maybe three times to adjust my valve clearances and reused the same gasket every time. I was just very careful with removal, the gasket stuck to the cover and came cleanly off the head. Works for me. I'm very pleased, like you, with the quality of Ray's rocker cover and now I'm even more pleased with how clean my engine remains with the silicone gasket in place.?I always keep a spare gasket at hand, but so far, knock wood, I haven't needed to use the spare silicone gasket.?Steven KingsburyBN1On Oct 20, 2023, at 6:51 AM, patrick williams <2x2doc at gmail.com> wrote:I have the excellent Ray Juncal rocker cover with a cork gasket.? I noticed that Moss sells a silicone gasket.? ?So 2 questions for the list:1.? Is the silicone gasket worth it?2.? Moss has 2 versions, one for the original rocker cover and one for "alloy covers". No other?explanation.? ?Anyone have an opinion on which to get?Thanks.Pat Williams1960 BT7_______________________________________________Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation  $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeysHealeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeysUnsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/airtightproductions at icloud.com
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From warthodson at aol.com  Fri Oct 20 09:31:26 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 15:31:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket
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 I have had excellent results with the cork gasket on my 6 Cyl. engine. NO leaks. I have an aluminum valve cover.?I attached the gasket to the valve cover with a silicone gasket adhesive. After the adhesive had about 15-30 minute's to partially dry, I made sure the gasket was centered on the valve cover flange & placed the valve cover on a dead flat surface & weighed it down & let it dried over nite.Gary Hodson?    On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 09:01:14 AM CDT, patrick williams <2x2doc at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 I have the excellent Ray Juncal rocker cover with a cork gasket.? I noticed that Moss sells a silicone gasket.? ?So 2 questions for the list:1.? Is the silicone gasket worth it?2.? Moss has 2 versions, one for the original rocker cover and one for "alloy covers". No other?explanation.? ?Anyone have an opinion on which to get?Thanks.Pat Williams1960 BT7_______________________________________________
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Fri Oct 20 09:34:52 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 16:34:52 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket
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Hi,

Just from my own experience:-

Yes, worth it.

Not sure where the issue is here?if you have an alloy cover, like mine, buy the ?alloy cover? one. If not, buy the other one. Presumably there is some small difference in shape.

You need to get the appropriate glue, then stick it permanently to the rocker cover. Not easy, as it?s prone to contracting inwards along the length of the cover. (Self-explanatory once you?re actually doing it.) Do I recall the use of clothes pegs and/or bulldog clips? Not sure..)

Anyhow, once it?s on, it?s great. You can take the cover off and replace it with confidence. No leaks?no gloop sticking cork to head.

.Worth it. In my opinion at least.

Simon

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of patrick williams
Sent: 20 October 2023 14:34
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket

 

I have the excellent Ray Juncal rocker cover with a cork gasket.  I noticed that Moss sells a silicone gasket.   So 2 questions for the list:

1.  Is the silicone gasket worth it?

2.  Moss has 2 versions, one for the original rocker cover and one for "alloy covers". No other explanation.   Anyone have an opinion on which to get?

Thanks.

Pat Williams

1960 BT7

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From manifold at telus.net  Fri Oct 20 10:19:46 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 09:19:46 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjusters
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Carl, et al:

I modified my drivers seat to recline by cutting off the original tab on
the seat frame and fitting a longer tab made from 1/8 x 1 MS. I tapped two
holes in the new tab for different seat back angles. The head of the bolt
is ground thinner and to fit next to the cushion. To change angle,
unscrew the bolt and move to the other hole. Pictures attached.

Harold

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 12:51?AM Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Seems to be okay on my BJ8, but maybe I didn't cant it as much as you.
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 8:48?AM Richard Kahn <tahoehealey at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Caution is that you cannot use the shelf in the down position.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Hi Carl -
>>
>> A common trick is to install a 1" high oak wedge from front to 0"  back
>> on the seat runners, and that will cant the seat back a couple degrees and
>> make it very comfortable.  I did this on my BJ8.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 6:51?AM carl and gerry rubino via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> As my age progresses the curvature of my back does also. Somebody out
>>> there offers a kit for adjusting the slant of the seat back.
>>> Who?
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 20 12:17:11 2023
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 11:17:11 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket
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Like many here, I too have a silicone gasket on my BJ-8, and find it cut the leaks down to just about nothing. I have an allot rocker cover and did as others have described ? applied silicone sealant between the cover and gasket, ensure it sets on an even surface and let it cure before use.

 

The one thing I would do different is I would put blue painters tape all around the cover before attempting to apply the silicone sealant. I figured I could be careful enough to get none on the cover, but as we all really know ? that stuff goes where it wants to go?

 

My notes tell me I got the one recommended by Bruce Steel on this list, sourced from Alexander Racing Enterprise/Vintage Racers.

 

----------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of patrick williams
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2023 6:34 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket

 

I have the excellent Ray Juncal rocker cover with a cork gasket.  I noticed that Moss sells a silicone gasket.   So 2 questions for the list:

1.  Is the silicone gasket worth it?

2.  Moss has 2 versions, one for the original rocker cover and one for "alloy covers". No other explanation.   Anyone have an opinion on which to get?

Thanks.

Pat Williams

1960 BT7

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From s.hutchings at rogers.com  Fri Oct 20 14:39:00 2023
From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 16:39:00 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjusters
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From warthodson at aol.com  Fri Oct 20 14:54:55 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 20:54:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket
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 A properly installed cork gasket does not rely on "goop" to stick it to the head.?One reason for leaks at the head to cork or silicone gasket is the original stamped steel valve covers have been over tightened & distorted in a futile attempt to stop the leaks. I.E. the valve cover mating surface is no longer flat but the old cork gasket gets blamed.?Gary

    On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 12:12:01 PM CDT, Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 
Hi,

Just from my own experience:-

Yes, worth it.

Not sure where the issue is here?if you have an alloy cover, like mine, buy the ?alloy cover? one. If not, buy the other one. Presumably there is some small difference in shape.

You need to get the appropriate glue, then stick it permanently to the rocker cover. Not easy, as it?s prone to contracting inwards along the length of the cover. (Self-explanatory once you?re actually doing it.) Do I recall the use of clothes pegs and/or bulldog clips? Not sure..)

Anyhow, once it?s on, it?s great. You can take the cover off and replace it with confidence. No leaks?no gloop sticking cork to head.

..Worth it. In my opinion at least.

Simon

 ?

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of patrick williams
Sent: 20 October 2023 14:34
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket

 ?

I have the excellent Ray Juncal rocker cover with a cork gasket.? I noticed that Moss sells a silicone gasket.? ?So 2 questions for the list:

1.? Is the silicone gasket worth it?

2.? Moss has 2 versions, one for the original rocker cover and one for "alloy covers". No other?explanation.? ?Anyone have an opinion on which to get?

Thanks.

Pat Williams

1960 BT7
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 20 15:33:26 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 14:33:26 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Amazing craftsmanship. Non Healey
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https://fb.watch/nOGRfjd69t/?mibextid=Nif5oz
Small scale twin prop engine

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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 20 15:35:41 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 14:35:41 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjusters
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I welded on a 1/2 higher fulcrum point ?? n the seat frames and drilled a
lower hole in the seat back wings. I also had an inflatable lumbar support
installed in the seat back when I had my seats recovered

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6
1967 MGB Roadster

On Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 5:23?PM Alan Seigrist via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi Carl -
>
> A common trick is to install a 1" high oak wedge from front to 0"  back on
> the seat runners, and that will cant the seat back a couple degrees and
> make it very comfortable.  I did this on my BJ8.
>
> Best,
>
> Alan
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 6:51?AM carl and gerry rubino via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> As my age progresses the curvature of my back does also. Somebody out
>> there offers a kit for adjusting the slant of the seat back.
>> Who?
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From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz  Fri Oct 20 18:33:01 2023
From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 13:33:01 +1300
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjusters
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This bracket drawn up and folded by a local Auckland member.  Fitted to his 1959 BN7.  Works like a charm.  Drawing attached.

Be sure that you have enough clearance between your legs and the bottom of the steering wheel.

It is a good idea to first chock up the front of the seat to get the desired angle and clearance, then fold the metal.

 

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 



 

From: Charles Frazer <cfrazer at uoregon.edu> 
Sent: Friday, 20 October 2023 2:04 PM
To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut at gmail.com>
Cc: rubino at truespeed.ca; healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat back adjusters

 

Can anyone supply a measured drawing?

 

On Oct 19, 2023, at 4:47 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

 

Hi Carl - 

 

A common trick is to install a 1" high oak wedge from front to 0"  back on the seat runners, and that will cant the seat back a couple degrees and make it very comfortable.  I did this on my BJ8.

Best,

 

Alan

 

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 6:51?AM carl and gerry rubino via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

As my age progresses the curvature of my back does also. Somebody out there offers a kit for adjusting the slant of the seat back.  

Who?

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From cfrazer at uoregon.edu  Fri Oct 20 18:59:44 2023
From: cfrazer at uoregon.edu (Charles Frazer)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:59:44 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjusters
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Many thanks, Mark.
Charlie


On Oct 20, 2023, at 5:33 PM, Mark Donaldson <ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz<mailto:ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz>> wrote:

This bracket drawn up and folded by a local Auckland member.  Fitted to his 1959 BN7.  Works like a charm.  Drawing attached.
Be sure that you have enough clearance between your legs and the bottom of the steering wheel.
It is a good idea to first chock up the front of the seat to get the desired angle and clearance, then fold the metal.

Mark
Ardmore, NZ

<image002.jpg>

From: Charles Frazer <cfrazer at uoregon.edu<mailto:cfrazer at uoregon.edu>>
Sent: Friday, 20 October 2023 2:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] seat back adjusters

Can anyone supply a measured drawing?

On Oct 19, 2023, at 4:47 PM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Hi Carl -

A common trick is to install a 1" high oak wedge from front to 0"  back on the seat runners, and that will cant the seat back a couple degrees and make it very comfortable.  I did this on my BJ8.

Best,

Alan

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Who?
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From guido36 at att.net  Sat Oct 21 01:30:25 2023
From: guido36 at att.net (Guy Coldwell)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 08:30:25 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Seat back adjusters
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From rubino at truespeed.ca  Sat Oct 21 09:08:31 2023
From: rubino at truespeed.ca (rubino at truespeed.ca)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 15:08:31 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] seat angle
Message-ID: <emc48ee3f5-9cda-4c5f-bc9b-0d61db8f4a8d@p6520f>

"WOW" I had no idea there were so many old guys with bad backs driving 
healeys!

Thanks for all the responses.

Carl
BN-4
1957
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From phoenix722 at comcast.net  Sat Oct 21 10:05:44 2023
From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair)
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 09:05:44 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket
In-Reply-To: <1449518831.420851.1697835296002@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAPHe+_b4z4UQtD=rjkZHtS1Kc_QB712uMS_+Pn6VObNLeEQrng@mail.gmail.com>
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 <1449518831.420851.1697835296002@mail.yahoo.com>
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Agreed.? I spent a lot of time straightening and flattening (?) a cover, 
and it made a huge difference.

Mike

On 10/20/23 1:54 PM, warthodson--- via Healeys wrote:
> A properly installed cork gasket does not rely on "goop" to stick it 
> to the head.
> One reason for leaks at the head to cork or silicone gasket is the 
> original stamped steel valve covers have been over tightened & 
> distorted in a futile attempt to stop the leaks. I.E. the valve cover 
> mating surface is no longer flat but the old cork gasket gets blamed.
> Gary
>
>
> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 12:12:01 PM CDT, Simon Lachlan via 
> Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Just from my own experience:-
>
> Yes, worth it.
>
> Not sure where the issue is here?if you have an alloy cover, like 
> mine, buy the ?alloy cover? one. If not, buy the other one. Presumably 
> there is some small difference in shape.
>
> You need to get the appropriate glue, then stick it permanently to the 
> rocker cover. Not easy, as it?s prone to contracting inwards along the 
> length of the cover. (Self-explanatory once you?re actually doing it.) 
> Do I recall the use of clothes pegs and/or bulldog clips? Not sure..)
>
> Anyhow, once it?s on, it?s great. You can take the cover off and 
> replace it with confidence. No leaks?no gloop sticking cork to head.
>
> ..Worth it. In my opinion at least.
>
> Simon
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *patrick 
> williams
> *Sent:* 20 October 2023 14:34
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket
>
> I have the excellent Ray Juncal rocker cover with a cork gasket.? I 
> noticed that Moss sells a silicone gasket.? ?So 2 questions for the list:
>
> 1. Is the silicone gasket worth it?
>
> 2. Moss has 2 versions, one for the original rocker cover and one for 
> "alloy covers". No other?explanation.? ?Anyone have an opinion on 
> which to get?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Pat Williams
>
> 1960 BT7
>
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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 22 04:15:20 2023
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 03:15:20 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] seat angle
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I didn't know there were any old guys that did not have back problems.
Mike MacLean with degenerative discs in the lower back.

On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 8:25?AM carl and gerry rubino via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> "WOW" I had no idea there were so many old guys with bad backs driving
> healeys!
>
> Thanks for all the responses.
>
> Carl
> BN-4
> 1957
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From 2x2doc at gmail.com  Sun Oct 22 14:03:46 2023
From: 2x2doc at gmail.com (patrick williams)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 16:03:46 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket
In-Reply-To: <CAPHe+_b4z4UQtD=rjkZHtS1Kc_QB712uMS_+Pn6VObNLeEQrng@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPHe+_b4z4UQtD=rjkZHtS1Kc_QB712uMS_+Pn6VObNLeEQrng@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks for all the replies.  I'm leaving my cork gasket on for now but will
go with silicone when the cork gets old.  The key is using red RTV
sealant.  Also the Moss silicone gasket appears to be made by Alexander
Racing Enterprises.
Pat Williams

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:33?AM patrick williams <2x2doc at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the excellent Ray Juncal rocker cover with a cork gasket.  I
> noticed that Moss sells a silicone gasket.   So 2 questions for the list:
> 1.  Is the silicone gasket worth it?
> 2.  Moss has 2 versions, one for the original rocker cover and one for
> "alloy covers". No other explanation.   Anyone have an opinion on which to
> get?
> Thanks.
> Pat Williams
> 1960 BT7
>
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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Sun Oct 22 17:58:20 2023
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (John Spaur)
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 16:58:20 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket
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 <CAPHe+_aPm6uvWSDi9YQRPCpCp4f8MVnBh04nq5dSgxixLkVO+Q@mail.gmail.com>
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The silicon gasket is worth it.

 

Use RTV to adhere the cork, or silicon gasket, to the rocker cover. Use non-hardening Hylomar for gasket to block. I did that with both gasket types and did not have any leaks. I currently have a silicon gasket installed. I have removed the valve cover several times in the last ten years and reinstalled it without removing it from the valve cover. I only used Hylomar at the block.

 

I believe the silicon gasket for the alloy cover is flat on both sides because the alloy cover is machined flat, but I am not certain.

 

Also, as other listers have stated, be certain the steel valve cover sets absolutely flat. I had to work the perimeter with metal working tools to flatten it. I also had to twist it so is would rest flat.

 

John Spaur

?62 BT7

 

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of patrick williams
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 1:04 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket

 

Thanks for all the replies.  I'm leaving my cork gasket on for now but will go with silicone when the cork gets old.  The key is using red RTV sealant.  Also the Moss silicone gasket appears to be made by Alexander Racing Enterprises.

Pat Williams

 

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:33?AM patrick williams <2x2doc at gmail.com <mailto:2x2doc at gmail.com> > wrote:

I have the excellent Ray Juncal rocker cover with a cork gasket.  I noticed that Moss sells a silicone gasket.   So 2 questions for the list:

1.  Is the silicone gasket worth it?

2.  Moss has 2 versions, one for the original rocker cover and one for "alloy covers". No other explanation.   Anyone have an opinion on which to get?

Thanks.

Pat Williams

1960 BT7

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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 02:37:57 2023
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 16:37:57 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] seat angle
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My back is okay (knock on wood).  I made the change because for many years
the BJ8 was my daily driver and I would drive it long distances all the
time!

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 6:45?PM Michael MacLean <springer.mike51 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I didn't know there were any old guys that did not have back problems.
> Mike MacLean with degenerative discs in the lower back.
>
> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 8:25?AM carl and gerry rubino via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> "WOW" I had no idea there were so many old guys with bad backs driving
>> healeys!
>>
>> Thanks for all the responses.
>>
>> Carl
>> BN-4
>> 1957
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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 04:27:41 2023
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 03:27:41 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket
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The cork gasket glued to the valve cover with RTV and a coating of Hylomar
between the cork and the block has stopped any oil leaks on all of my
British sports cars.
Mike MacLean

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 9:00?PM John Spaur via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> The silicon gasket is worth it.
>
>
>
> Use RTV to adhere the cork, or silicon gasket, to the rocker cover. Use
> non-hardening Hylomar for gasket to block. I did that with both gasket
> types and did not have any leaks. I currently have a silicon gasket
> installed. I have removed the valve cover several times in the last ten
> years and reinstalled it without removing it from the valve cover. I only
> used Hylomar at the block.
>
>
>
> I believe the silicon gasket for the alloy cover is flat on both sides
> because the alloy cover is machined flat, but I am not certain.
>
>
>
> Also, as other listers have stated, be certain the steel valve cover sets
> absolutely flat. I had to work the perimeter with metal working tools to
> flatten it. I also had to twist it so is would rest flat.
>
>
>
> John Spaur
>
> ?62 BT7
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *patrick
> williams
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 22, 2023 1:04 PM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Rocker cover gasket
>
>
>
> Thanks for all the replies.  I'm leaving my cork gasket on for now but
> will go with silicone when the cork gets old.  The key is using red RTV
> sealant.  Also the Moss silicone gasket appears to be made by Alexander
> Racing Enterprises.
>
> Pat Williams
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:33?AM patrick williams <2x2doc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have the excellent Ray Juncal rocker cover with a cork gasket.  I
> noticed that Moss sells a silicone gasket.   So 2 questions for the list:
>
> 1.  Is the silicone gasket worth it?
>
> 2.  Moss has 2 versions, one for the original rocker cover and one for
> "alloy covers". No other explanation.   Anyone have an opinion on which to
> get?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Pat Williams
>
> 1960 BT7
>
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From bn2cars at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 11:23:49 2023
From: bn2cars at gmail.com (Donald Tate)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 13:23:49 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets
Message-ID: <ECEDE9CD-BB74-4D28-9262-1454B621FE99@gmail.com>

Getting ready to install the rivets in the rear shroud. Is there a ?modern? alternative to the peened factory rivets? 
Or a modern way to peen the rivets by hand?  I assume the factory had a special tool for this purpose. 



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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 18:08:48 2023
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 17:08:48 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets
In-Reply-To: <ECEDE9CD-BB74-4D28-9262-1454B621FE99@gmail.com>
References: <ECEDE9CD-BB74-4D28-9262-1454B621FE99@gmail.com>
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I don?t know or recall what kind of rivets were originally used on the Healeys, but it sounds like you are trying to avoid having to 'buck' traditional rivets to make the shop head. If so, and you want pulled rivets that have no hole left after the mandrel is pulled out - then maybe you want to look into "Closed-End Blind Rivets"....

If you want to have traditional rivets, you can find the local Experimental Aircraft Association (EAA) chapter near you. Most likely there will be person or persons who are or have built aircraft requiring bucking lots and lots of rivets - and who would most likely be happy to take the 20 minutes to do yours!

----------------
All the best,

Al Fuller

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Donald Tate
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 10:24 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets

Getting ready to install the rivets in the rear shroud. Is there a ?modern? alternative to the peened factory rivets? 
Or a modern way to peen the rivets by hand?  I assume the factory had a special tool for this purpose. 



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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Mon Oct 23 19:11:15 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 21:11:15 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets
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The rivets along the rear lip of the shroud are not too difficult. I use
modified Vicegrips.
The ones along the bottom edge of the boot lid opening are a little more
difficult.
I made this special tool from a tie rod end separator. It does a great job.

Michael S

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On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 7:00?PM Donald Tate <bn2cars at gmail.com> wrote:

> Getting ready to install the rivets in the rear shroud. Is there a
> ?modern? alternative to the peened factory rivets?
> Or a modern way to peen the rivets by hand?  I assume the factory had a
> special tool for this purpose.
>
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From warthodson at aol.com  Tue Oct 24 08:07:26 2023
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 14:07:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets
In-Reply-To: <4bd901da060e$437d39c0$ca77ad40$@gmail.com>
References: <ECEDE9CD-BB74-4D28-9262-1454B621FE99@gmail.com>
 <4bd901da060e$437d39c0$ca77ad40$@gmail.com>
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 The shop that did my metal work found a novel approach. They used a die to create threads on the shaft of the rivet & used a nut on the underside of the rivet to tighten it down. They did have to create a special tool?out of a set of plyers to hold the rivet from turning while tightening the nut. The result is completely original in appearance.Gary Hodson
    On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 12:51:08 AM CDT, alfuller194 at gmail.com <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 I don?t know or recall what kind of rivets were originally used on the Healeys, but it sounds like you are trying to avoid having to 'buck' traditional rivets to make the shop head. If so, and you want pulled rivets that have no hole left after the mandrel is pulled out - then maybe you want to look into "Closed-End Blind Rivets"....

If you want to have traditional rivets, you can find the local Experimental Aircraft Association (EAA) chapter near you. Most likely there will be person or persons who are or have built aircraft requiring bucking lots and lots of rivets - and who would most likely be happy to take the 20 minutes to do yours!

----------------
All the best,

Al Fuller

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Donald Tate
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 10:24 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets

Getting ready to install the rivets in the rear shroud. Is there a ?modern? alternative to the peened factory rivets? 
Or a modern way to peen the rivets by hand?? I assume the factory had a special tool for this purpose. 



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From britishauto at gmail.com  Tue Oct 24 08:40:18 2023
From: britishauto at gmail.com (Jake V)
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 10:40:18 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets
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What you're describing is very similar to a Hi-Lok or Hi-Lite fastener we
use in the aerospace industry. Flat head that looks like a rivet with a
thread and a hex key recess in the end of the pin to keep it from spinning
while installing either a lock nut, or a special collar that shears off
when a certain torque is reached.
They're not cheap, but they are available and they go down to ? 1/8".

https://jet-tek.com/hl11/

On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 10:24?AM warthodson--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> The shop that did my metal work found a novel approach. They used a die to
> create threads on the shaft of the rivet & used a nut on the underside of
> the rivet to tighten it down. They did have to create a special tool
> out of a set of plyers to hold the rivet from turning while tightening the
> nut. The result is completely original in appearance.
> Gary Hodson
>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 12:51:08 AM CDT, alfuller194 at gmail.com <
> alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I don?t know or recall what kind of rivets were originally used on the
> Healeys, but it sounds like you are trying to avoid having to 'buck'
> traditional rivets to make the shop head. If so, and you want pulled rivets
> that have no hole left after the mandrel is pulled out - then maybe you
> want to look into "Closed-End Blind Rivets"....
>
> If you want to have traditional rivets, you can find the local
> Experimental Aircraft Association (EAA) chapter near you. Most likely there
> will be person or persons who are or have built aircraft requiring bucking
> lots and lots of rivets - and who would most likely be happy to take the 20
> minutes to do yours!
>
> ----------------
> All the best,
>
> Al Fuller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Donald Tate
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 10:24 AM
> To: healeys at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets
>
> Getting ready to install the rivets in the rear shroud. Is there a
> ?modern? alternative to the peened factory rivets?
> Or a modern way to peen the rivets by hand?  I assume the factory had a
> special tool for this purpose.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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From bn2cars at gmail.com  Wed Oct 25 08:34:52 2023
From: bn2cars at gmail.com (Donald Tate)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 10:34:52 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Rear shroud rivets
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Thu Oct 26 20:20:05 2023
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 19:20:05 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] seat back adjustment "How to"
Message-ID: <CABXhz89VENbXrDwLTPgNqa1CcN_EapakhmfpBw+gUFDyva+h-g@mail.gmail.com>

[image: Seat Back Angle-1.jpg]
I did this with my car and it was a huge help
[image: Seat Back Angle-2.jpg]
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie,OR
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     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes


1967 MGB  [image: MG]

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Fri Oct 27 09:57:05 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 16:57:05 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] QH King Pins
Message-ID: <000001da08ee$3c5a23f0$b50e6bd0$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Hi, I was browsing UK eBay the other day when I saw a King Pin set for sale
from Moss Europe.:- 

 <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173693416361> Austin-Healey 100-4 100-6 3000 -
King pin &amp; Bush set - 1953-1968 BN1-BJ8 | eBay

Or just enter 173693416361.

This item caught my attention because, after reading Roger's book, I was
reminded that QH King Pins are hard to find and was pleased to find some at
the big Beaulieu autojumble some weeks ago. I doubted that any big suppliers
would have QH sets on their shelf and I furthermore doubted that, if they
did have them, they'd need to flog them on eBay...

Anyhow, you'll see that they're giving it a Quentin Hazell part number which
I don't think is appropriate as I suspect that it's not QH.

I queried:- "Is this a genuine Q Hazell item? Thanks"

They replied:- "QH PART NUMBER, BUT NOT BOXED IN QH PACKAGING. rEGARDS"

I replied:- "Thank you for this. But not very helpful. Is it a genuine QH
part?


They replied:-

"I dont believe so, I have no data to confirm QH we just use the part
number."

 

Naturally, I'm not accusing anyone, not hoping to be sued here..but I think
it's careless to say the least. Anybody got anything to add?? I suppose I'm
just curious...does Moss have form for this?

Doubt I'll pester eBay about this as I expect they'd not be too bothered.

Simon





 

 

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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Sat Oct 28 09:27:57 2023
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 11:27:57 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] QH King Pins
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Hi Simon,

If you google that QH part number, you'll see that it's not just Moss that
uses it, but a number of other suppliers as well. Would be interesting to
see what packaging they come in and where it says "Made in ..."

Happy Healeying,

Rick Neville, aka "HealeyRick"

On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 1:57?PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi, I was browsing UK eBay the other day when I saw a King Pin set for
> sale from Moss Europe.:-
>
> Austin-Healey 100-4 100-6 3000 - King pin &amp; Bush set - 1953-1968
> BN1-BJ8 | eBay <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173693416361>
>
> Or just enter 173693416361.
>
> This item caught my attention because, after reading Roger?s book, I was
> reminded that QH King Pins are hard to find and was pleased to find some at
> the big Beaulieu autojumble some weeks ago. I doubted that any big
> suppliers would have QH sets on their shelf and I furthermore doubted that,
> if they did have them, they?d need to flog them on eBay?..
>
> Anyhow, you?ll see that they?re giving it a Quentin Hazell part number
> which I don?t think is appropriate as I suspect that it?s not QH.
>
> I queried:- ?Is this a genuine Q Hazell item? Thanks?
>
> They replied:- ?QH PART NUMBER, BUT NOT BOXED IN QH PACKAGING. rEGARDS?
>
> I replied:- ?Thank you for this. But not very helpful. Is it a genuine QH
> part?
>
> They replied:-
>
> ?I dont believe so, I have no data to confirm QH we just use the part
> number.?
>
>
>
> Naturally, I?m not accusing anyone, not hoping to be sued here?.but I
> think it?s careless to say the least. Anybody got anything to add?? I
> suppose I?m just curious?..does Moss have form for this?
>
> Doubt I?ll pester eBay about this as I expect they?d not be too bothered.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
>
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From manifold at telus.net  Sat Oct 28 11:57:19 2023
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 10:57:19 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Gear Adjustment
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCAZDPUQijrCNu9Nzgq+uhZX4MHc6L+yLzfHXZiMQ6H3Fg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I need to make an adjustment to the steering gear. I read the procedure in
manual and it says to disconnect the side rod from the steering arm. Can
the same thing be achieved by lifting the tires and not disconnecting the
side rod?
Any tips on adjusting the steering gear are appreciated.

Harold
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sat Oct 28 13:07:19 2023
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 15:07:19 -0400
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Gear Adjustment
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I've never found a need to disconnect the rod ends. Jack stands on the
outer ends of the lower A arms will keep the loads off the steering system
sufficiently.

M

On Sat., Oct. 28, 2023, 2:36 p.m. Harold Manifold, <manifold at telus.net>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I need to make an adjustment to the steering gear. I read the procedure in
> manual and it says to disconnect the side rod from the steering arm. Can
> the same thing be achieved by lifting the tires and not disconnecting the
> side rod?
> Any tips on adjusting the steering gear are appreciated.
>
> Harold
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 28 18:55:48 2023
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (Ricchardd Mayor)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 17:55:48 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Gear Adjustment
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Make a very small adjustment in the direction that you want go, check the play in your steering wheel, and then drive the car to see how it feels. Keep doing that until you get it where you want it. No need to disconnect anything or jack anything up. Unless you really want to.  


Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com


> On Oct 28, 2023, at 12:07 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've never found a need to disconnect the rod ends. Jack stands on the outer ends of the lower A arms will keep the loads off the steering system sufficiently. 
> 
> M
> 
> On Sat., Oct. 28, 2023, 2:36 p.m. Harold Manifold, <manifold at telus.net <mailto:manifold at telus.net>> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I need to make an adjustment to the steering gear. I read the procedure in manual and it says to disconnect the side rod from the steering arm. Can the same thing be achieved by lifting the tires and not disconnecting the side rod?
> Any tips on adjusting the steering gear are appreciated.
> 
> Harold
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sat Oct 28 22:51:27 2023
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 21:51:27 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Gear Adjustment
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I presume you're trying to take some of the slack out of the wheel? I 
just tighten the pin down snug, back it off a little then drive the car. 
If the adjustment pin is too tight it won't return to center; loosen it 
until it does and then a tad more just to be 'safe.'


On 10/28/2023 12:07 PM, Michael Salter wrote:
> I've never found a need to disconnect the rod ends. Jack stands on the 
> outer ends of the lower A arms will keep the loads off the steering 
> system sufficiently.
>
> M
>
> On Sat., Oct. 28, 2023, 2:36 p.m. Harold Manifold, 
> <manifold at telus.net> wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     I need to make an adjustment?to the steering gear. I read the
>     procedure in manual and it says to disconnect the side rod from
>     the steering arm. Can the same thing be achieved?by lifting the
>     tires and not disconnecting the side rod?
>     Any tips on adjusting the steering gear are appreciated.
>
>     Harold
>
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Sun Oct 29 04:53:29 2023
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 10:53:29 -0000
Subject: [Healeys] QH King Pins
In-Reply-To: <CAGfzsZdYOPJgJhp_FmjDshB=2_XXp0U0Bf7XGz-+LrJ-Y+sYvw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001da08ee$3c5a23f0$b50e6bd0$@alexarevel.plus.com>
 <CAGfzsZdYOPJgJhp_FmjDshB=2_XXp0U0Bf7XGz-+LrJ-Y+sYvw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000a01da0a56$28217f00$78647d00$@alexarevel.plus.com>

Well, I did a bit more research?actually in my own files and came up with this, below, from Roger Moment:-

QUOTE

From:         owner-healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:owner-healeys at autox.team.net>  on behalf of Rmoment at aol.com <mailto:Rmoment at aol.com> 

Sent:        17 March 2002 16:02

To:             healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 

Subject:    king pins

 

A while back I posted a note alerting folks to the problem with some ?generic? kingpins that Moss was selling at the time.  They were a BEAR to install and required much modification of the bushings to even provide proper lubrication.

I spoke with Michael Grant at Moss and he was very concerned about the problem.  Subsequently he has re-sourced their kingpins from someone in England who has the tooling and, I believe, supplied Quintin Hazel.  That is, the product the new source is providing is EXACTLY like the Q-H kingpins that had been available in the past.

I have just finished installing one of these new sets and am happy to report that they are really GREAT!!!  They have the properly machined bushings, sized to go in with just the proper ?crush?, and the correct cork rings.  Plus the zirc fittings have the correct size threads and hex.  The fulcrum pins even fit the bottom hole in the king pin properly and don?t require additional fussing.

The new box these king pins come in is still plain brown, but it has the following markings on it:

1) a blue-white-red Union Jack with MADE IIN GREAT BRITAIN

2) a white tag with QHQP295TCF and KING PIN SET BIG HEA and MADE IN :U.K.

 

I believe Moss has replaced their older, poor-quality stock and the new ones are what you?ll receive if you order now.  If you have some of the bad ones that you haven?t installed, I suggest you contact Moss about trying to exchange them.

And finally, for those of you who like to flame suppliers when parts aren?t perfect, be aware that many time suppliers do care, but need to get proper input as to problems.  I am very impressed with the way Moss responded to this issue.

Remember that the parts business is very competitive regarding price, which drives suppliers to look for the cheapest parts to sell.  Many of you will change suppliers over a few cents savings and that hurts those who may have better parts at higher prices.  You often get what you pay for.  Just remember.

Roger

UNQUOTE

That just about covers it!?!

As to using a QH part number..debatable but not too serious.

Simon

 

 

 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> 
Sent: 28 October 2023 16:28
To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] QH King Pins

 

Hi Simon,

 

If you google that QH part number, you'll see that it's not just Moss that uses it, but a number of other suppliers as well. Would be interesting to see what packaging they come in and where it says "Made in ..." 

 

Happy Healeying,

 

Rick Neville, aka "HealeyRick"

 

On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 1:57?PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Hi, I was browsing UK eBay the other day when I saw a King Pin set for sale from Moss Europe.:- 

Austin-Healey 100-4 100-6 3000 - King pin  <https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173693416361> &amp; Bush set - 1953-1968 BN1-BJ8 | eBay

Or just enter 173693416361.

This item caught my attention because, after reading Roger?s book, I was reminded that QH King Pins are hard to find and was pleased to find some at the big Beaulieu autojumble some weeks ago. I doubted that any big suppliers would have QH sets on their shelf and I furthermore doubted that, if they did have them, they?d need to flog them on eBay?..

Anyhow, you?ll see that they?re giving it a Quentin Hazell part number which I don?t think is appropriate as I suspect that it?s not QH.

I queried:- ?Is this a genuine Q Hazell item? Thanks?

They replied:- ?QH PART NUMBER, BUT NOT BOXED IN QH PACKAGING. rEGARDS?

I replied:- ?Thank you for this. But not very helpful. Is it a genuine QH part?


They replied:-

?I dont believe so, I have no data to confirm QH we just use the part number.?

 

Naturally, I?m not accusing anyone, not hoping to be sued here?.but I think it?s careless to say the least. Anybody got anything to add?? I suppose I?m just curious?..does Moss have form for this?

Doubt I?ll pester eBay about this as I expect they?d not be too bothered.

Simon

 

 

 

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From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron)
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 16:18:58 +0000
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Perry,
I totally agree with you about your comments with regards to Roger Moment. Yes a lot of individuals have made a huge impact in keeping our cars on the road as well as contributing in a positive way as to how to keep them in their original form is one chooses to do it. I was fortunate enough to work with Roger on his latest book and while it was a very small part I can assure you that he is the most thorough individual I have ever met while at the same time ensuring that the articles he selected for this book would be ones that enthusiasts would most often be the ones they would refer to while restoring or working on their cars.
We are indeed fortunate to have people like Roger that have taken the time over many years to assist us in the hobby we love and that there are still others that follow in their footsteps so this will continue in the future.

Jean
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Perry Small via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: October 29, 2023 1:21 PM
To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] QH King Pins

If I may comment on a topic in this kingpin discussion, the folks who have spent their lives dedicated to our favorite cars, our Austin Healeys.
Roger Moments name was mentioned. Roger is one of the many giants that have made the ownership of Austin Healeys over the years, 58 years for me, more informed, and memorable. There are plenty of folks that have donated their time and wisdom to making it a much more enjoyable ride. Thanks to all including you folks on this list!
Perry

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 29, 2023, at 7:11 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

?

Well, I did a bit more research?actually in my own files and came up with this, below, from Roger Moment:-

QUOTE

From:         owner-healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:owner-healeys at autox.team.net> on behalf of Rmoment at aol.com<mailto:Rmoment at aol.com>

Sent:        17 March 2002 16:02

To:             healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>

Subject:    king pins



A while back I posted a note alerting folks to the problem with some ?generic? kingpins that Moss was selling at the time.  They were a BEAR to install and required much modification of the bushings to even provide proper lubrication.

I spoke with Michael Grant at Moss and he was very concerned about the problem.  Subsequently he has re-sourced their kingpins from someone in England who has the tooling and, I believe, supplied Quintin Hazel.  That is, the product the new source is providing is EXACTLY like the Q-H kingpins that had been available in the past.

I have just finished installing one of these new sets and am happy to report that they are really GREAT!!!  They have the properly machined bushings, sized to go in with just the proper ?crush?, and the correct cork rings.  Plus the zirc fittings have the correct size threads and hex.  The fulcrum pins even fit the bottom hole in the king pin properly and don?t require additional fussing.

The new box these king pins come in is still plain brown, but it has the following markings on it:

1) a blue-white-red Union Jack with MADE IIN GREAT BRITAIN

2) a white tag with QHQP295TCF and KING PIN SET BIG HEA and MADE IN :U.K.



I believe Moss has replaced their older, poor-quality stock and the new ones are what you?ll receive if you order now.  If you have some of the bad ones that you haven?t installed, I suggest you contact Moss about trying to exchange them.

And finally, for those of you who like to flame suppliers when parts aren?t perfect, be aware that many time suppliers do care, but need to get proper input as to problems.  I am very impressed with the way Moss responded to this issue.

Remember that the parts business is very competitive regarding price, which drives suppliers to look for the cheapest parts to sell.  Many of you will change suppliers over a few cents savings and that hurts those who may have better parts at higher prices.  You often get what you pay for.  Just remember.

Roger

UNQUOTE

That just about covers it!?!

As to using a QH part number..debatable but not too serious.

Simon







From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
Sent: 28 October 2023 16:28
To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] QH King Pins



Hi Simon,



If you google that QH part number, you'll see that it's not just Moss that uses it, but a number of other suppliers as well. Would be interesting to see what packaging they come in and where it says "Made in ..."



Happy Healeying,



Rick Neville, aka "HealeyRick"



On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 1:57?PM Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Hi, I was browsing UK eBay the other day when I saw a King Pin set for sale from Moss Europe.:-

Austin-Healey 100-4 100-6 3000 - King pin &amp; Bush set - 1953-1968 BN1-BJ8 | eBay<https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173693416361>

Or just enter 173693416361.

This item caught my attention because, after reading Roger?s book, I was reminded that QH King Pins are hard to find and was pleased to find some at the big Beaulieu autojumble some weeks ago. I doubted that any big suppliers would have QH sets on their shelf and I furthermore doubted that, if they did have them, they?d need to flog them on eBay?..

Anyhow, you?ll see that they?re giving it a Quentin Hazell part number which I don?t think is appropriate as I suspect that it?s not QH.

I queried:- ?Is this a genuine Q Hazell item? Thanks?

They replied:- ?QH PART NUMBER, BUT NOT BOXED IN QH PACKAGING. rEGARDS?

I replied:- ?Thank you for this. But not very helpful. Is it a genuine QH part?

They replied:-

?I dont believe so, I have no data to confirm QH we just use the part number.?



Naturally, I?m not accusing anyone, not hoping to be sued here?.but I think it?s careless to say the least. Anybody got anything to add?? I suppose I?m just curious?..does Moss have form for this?

Doubt I?ll pester eBay about this as I expect they?d not be too bothered.

Simon







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have a nice side shift transmission tunnel cover out of a BT7, already insulated on top($15).  also have a nice no leaks  radiator that was  recored a few years back with few miles since ($20)