From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Fri Feb  2 15:15:09 2024
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (David P)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 15:15:09 -0700
Subject: [Healeys] FEF
Message-ID: <3eb18c15-e685-45ab-9528-c2ab1f21250a@porterscustom.com>

..tricarb engine O/H...

-- 
Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 505-352-1378  My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/
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From britishauto at gmail.com  Fri Feb  2 17:31:07 2024
From: britishauto at gmail.com (Jake V)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 19:31:07 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] FEF
In-Reply-To: <3eb18c15-e685-45ab-9528-c2ab1f21250a@porterscustom.com>
References: <3eb18c15-e685-45ab-9528-c2ab1f21250a@porterscustom.com>
Message-ID: <CAACo9bDVJgvUF4j2c0itGjtcPV8KeTO97JCWR+xTS0pGTVyqTw@mail.gmail.com>

FEF

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024, 5:31 PM David P via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> ..tricarb engine O/H...
>
> --
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> 505-352-1378  My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/
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From healeyguy at aol.com  Fri Feb  2 18:27:17 2024
From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 20:27:17 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] FEF
In-Reply-To: <3eb18c15-e685-45ab-9528-c2ab1f21250a@porterscustom.com>
References: <3eb18c15-e685-45ab-9528-c2ab1f21250a@porterscustom.com>
Message-ID: <6EF80B55-B928-4179-8A96-696E9AD1303A@aol.com>

Dave 
First message that I a have received from the Healeys list in about six months. Had a computer failure and also moved to South Carolina about the same time. 
Refreshing to see the post and hope you folks are doing well in Healey land. 
Aloha to U?all
Perry

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 2, 2024, at 5:23?PM, David P via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?..tricarb engine O/H...
> 
> --
> Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph 505-352-1378  My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Fri Feb  2 20:55:08 2024
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2024 19:55:08 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] FEF
In-Reply-To: <6EF80B55-B928-4179-8A96-696E9AD1303A@aol.com>
References: <3eb18c15-e685-45ab-9528-c2ab1f21250a@porterscustom.com>
 <6EF80B55-B928-4179-8A96-696E9AD1303A@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CABXhz889bu320zHb5f6dd+cu2ThsmZjUhBrK+QAXfaBoU8VDDg@mail.gmail.com>

Hope the move went well

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6


On Fri, Feb 2, 2024, 7:42?PM Perry Small via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Dave
> First message that I a have received from the Healeys list in about six
> months. Had a computer failure and also moved to South Carolina about the
> same time.
> Refreshing to see the post and hope you folks are doing well in Healey
> land.
> Aloha to U?all
> Perry
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 2, 2024, at 5:23?PM, David P via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?..tricarb engine O/H...
> >
> > --
> > Porter Custom Bicycles 2909 Arno St. NE Albuquerque, NM. 87107 ph
> 505-352-1378  My World go here: WWW.PORTERBIKES.COM/
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From jpaynepbr at cox.net  Sun Feb  4 12:24:29 2024
From: jpaynepbr at cox.net (jpaynepbr at cox.net)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2024 19:24:29 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Perry Relocation to South Carolina
Message-ID: <CH3PR20MB6265F9C66C36C06E0F605B80F0402@CH3PR20MB6265.namprd20.prod.outlook.com>

Perry,

Where in SC did you relocate to?

There is a very good British Car Club there near Pickens/Clemson/Greenville.



Dave
First message that I a have received from the Healeys list in about six months. Had a computer failure and also moved to South Carolina about the same time.
Refreshing to see the post and hope you folks are doing well in Healey land.
Aloha to U?all
Perry

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 2, 2024, at 5:23?PM, David P via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Sun Feb  4 19:14:38 2024
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2024 18:14:38 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BN 1/2 Bonnet Release
Message-ID: <CAL4ZEONOFetiLVynAP5U6Ttc=MgR2JR4ONAxe1gpyavMnCN=uw@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone have a part number for the rubber grommet for the bonnet release rod
under the dash?
Mike MacLean
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From hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Feb  9 05:13:19 2024
From: hypercubic at yahoo.co.uk (mike brooks)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 12:13:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Third (last) style of BN1/BN2 sidescreens
References: <2130487654.483601.1707480799620.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2130487654.483601.1707480799620@mail.yahoo.com>

Anyone know a source for the chromed trim strips/captive head bolts/decorative chromed slotted nuts which held the everflex/plastic window assembly to the steel frame on the third (last) style of Austin-Healey 100 sidescreens? I've just restored the hood frame and installed a new soft top, and am about to restore the sidescreens. The sidescreens were incorrectly rebuilt by a previous owner and the aforementioned parts are missing.

ThanksMike'56 BN2 Scotland



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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Fri Feb  9 06:46:44 2024
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 14:46:44 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] Third (last) style of BN1/BN2 sidescreens
In-Reply-To: <2130487654.483601.1707480799620@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <2130487654.483601.1707480799620.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2130487654.483601.1707480799620@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1707486404195.4621715.08f064385a61a4f56a3cc7fd46c16e14b7132c88@spica.telekom.de>

 Ask at AHSpares. They sell them over the counter. Not in their catalogue.

Josef Eckert
K?nigswinter Germany


Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App

-- Original-Nachricht --
Von: mike brooks via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net
<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Betreff: [Healeys] Third (last) style of BN1/BN2 sidescreens
Datum: 09.02.2024, 14:31 Uhr
An: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Anyone know a source for the chromed trim strips/captive head 
bolts/decorative chromed slotted nuts which held the everflex/plastic 
window assembly to the steel frame on the third (last) style of 
Austin-Healey 100 sidescreens? I've just restored the hood frame and 
installed a new soft top, and am about to restore the sidescreens. The 
sidescreens were incorrectly rebuilt by a previous owner and the 
aforementioned parts are missing.

Thanks
Mike
'56 BN2 Scotland



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From rfbegani at gmail.com  Fri Feb  9 08:46:51 2024
From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 10:46:51 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
Message-ID: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last
month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and
bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need
polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to
bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in
one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and
then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous
creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main
bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

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From drscholz at visioncenterpc.com  Fri Feb  9 10:08:40 2024
From: drscholz at visioncenterpc.com (Chris Scholz)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 17:08:40 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
In-Reply-To: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
References: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D136E6C0-74BF-4F86-8297-55F3CD3F1FB5@visioncenterpc.com>

I had a similar incident.  I swapped in an aluminum LS1 with an GM transmission.  My car is 200lbs lighter and so much more fun to drive.  My reliability is excellent.
Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD

On Feb 9, 2024, at 10:13?AM, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:

?
Gentlemen:

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?


  1.  I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
  2.  I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
  3.  Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

Please give me your advice.

Best regards,

Bob Begani
67 Austin-Healey BJ8


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From bspidell at comcast.net  Fri Feb  9 11:25:08 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 10:25:08 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
In-Reply-To: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
References: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4c8dcab2-9637-4f77-8cbf-61e9d018c2f4@comcast.net>

In addition to this list, I frequent a couple forums and am a member of 
a couple Facebook Healey clubs. I see long blocks--everything sans carbs 
and manifolds--come up for sale occasionally. I sometimes see pistons 
F/S, but don't recall any short blocks or bearing caps (presumably the 
blocks would have caps).

What caused the original clank and loss of oil pressure?

Bob


On 2/9/2024 7:46 AM, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Gentlemen:
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 
> Austin-Healey.? Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at 
> the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I 
> drove it back slowly.? Last month, I dropped the pan and started to 
> remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.? My mechanic friend said 
> you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.? So, 
> I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings 
> along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then 
> packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the 
> workbench near the garbage.? We towed the car to Mikes garage so he 
> could pull and disassemble the engine.? Tuesday, he asked me to bring 
> the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in 
> one place.? I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag 
> and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the 
> famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>  1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>     not available and even if you could find them, they would need to
>     be line bored on the engine.
>  2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>     main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>  3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I 
> would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
> Healeys at autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Fri Feb  9 11:32:03 2024
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 13:32:03 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
In-Reply-To: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
References: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGfzsZd3aKYHt+Y4iXJ_FfET-d=s5M0b4GNgH-NGivh-aD+T1w@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without
the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8
block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.
Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for
a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines
and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have
one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that
needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

Best of luck,
Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Fri Feb  9 11:32:18 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 10:32:18 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
In-Reply-To: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
References: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1b70ab1a-043f-4225-a15e-3c9c93fbe74f@comcast.net>

Here's one in FL; may still be around:

https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-100-six-forum.5/engine-for-sale.274943/

On 2/9/2024 7:46 AM, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Gentlemen:
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 
> Austin-Healey.? Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at 
> the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I 
> drove it back slowly.? Last month, I dropped the pan and started to 
> remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.? My mechanic friend said 
> you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.? So, 
> I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings 
> along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then 
> packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the 
> workbench near the garbage.? We towed the car to Mikes garage so he 
> could pull and disassemble the engine.? Tuesday, he asked me to bring 
> the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in 
> one place.? I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag 
> and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the 
> famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>  1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>     not available and even if you could find them, they would need to
>     be line bored on the engine.
>  2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>     main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>  3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I 
> would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Fri Feb  9 11:47:13 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 10:47:13 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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Sounds like you should've bought a C5 'Vette instead of an Austin-Healey 
in the first place.


On 2/9/2024 9:08 AM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
> I had a similar incident. ?I swapped in an aluminum LS1 with an GM 
> transmission. ?My car is 200lbs lighter and so much more fun to drive. 
> ?My reliability is excellent.
> Sent from my iPhone
> Chris Scholz OD
>
>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 10:13?AM, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Gentlemen:
>>
>> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 
>> Austin-Healey.? Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at 
>> the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I 
>> drove it back slowly. Last month, I dropped the pan and started to 
>> remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.? My mechanic friend said 
>> you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.? 
>> So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and 
>> bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. 
>> Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the 
>> workbench near the garbage.? We towed the car to Mikes garage so he 
>> could pull and disassemble the engine. Tuesday, he asked me to bring 
>> the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything 
>> in one place.? I looked around but could not find this black plastic 
>> bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now 
>> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>>
>>  1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps
>>     are not available and even if you could find them, they would
>>     need to be line bored on the engine.
>>  2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>>     main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>>  3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>>
>> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I 
>> would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>>
>> Please give me your advice.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Bob Begani
>>
>> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>>
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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Fri Feb  9 12:08:46 2024
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 11:08:46 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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Very difficult to find main caps that just require a line bore.  The
centerline of the bore can be off in the vertical and one of the mating
surfaces can be machined to bring the centerline of the bore up or down.
If the centerline was bored even a fraction laterally, you are screwed.
Your only option is to find someone that has rebuilt a lot of Healey
engines.  Usually they have a box of main caps left over from years of
engine assembly.  You might get lucky and find main caps that are centered
laterally.  A whole set might be a little difficult though.  That's how I
got lucky with my 100 engine build. I was given a block with one end main
cap.  I got lucky and found two more caps on Ebay among a bunch of six
cylinder parts someone was selling.  The two mail caps were the ones I
needed, but the centerline was off in the vertical.  A little machining of
the faces of the caps brought it down right in line. A quick line bore and
the crank spun around a revolution by hand.  The assembly and how I
acquired the parts for this engine is a story in itself.  Starting off with
a bottom end with only one main cap and a chunk of cast iron broken out of
the water pump hole like someone got frustrated be cause the could not get
the bottom stud and nut out and just levered the pump down and broke the
piece of the block out like someone took a bite of the hole the impeller
goes in.  Ever try to find someone that can braze cast iron well?  Every
part acquisition was a story in itself.
Mike MacLean

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 10:28?AM Chris Scholz via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I had a similar incident.  I swapped in an aluminum LS1 with an GM
> transmission.  My car is 200lbs lighter and so much more fun to drive.  My
> reliability is excellent.
> Sent from my iPhone
> Chris Scholz OD
>
> On Feb 9, 2024, at 10:13?AM, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>
> ?
>
> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
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From rfbegani at gmail.com  Fri Feb  9 12:11:16 2024
From: rfbegani at gmail.com (rfbegani at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 14:11:16 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

 

Bob

 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> 
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

 

Best of luck,

Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Fri Feb  9 13:04:30 2024
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 15:04:30 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
"dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine
and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the
motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff
you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc.
It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock
off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I
had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than
the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS
motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and
with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75%
of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My
car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72
spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start
braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it
will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but
he can speak to how much work it was.

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a
replacement Healey 6.

Best of Luck,
Rick

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:

> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that
> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM
> mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc.
> did you use?  All options are on the table.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
>
>
> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
> Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find
> a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
> choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few
> years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the
> club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there
> might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have
> one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
>
>
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Fri Feb  9 14:07:31 2024
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 22:07:31 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] WG: Re:  BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
Message-ID: <1707512851753.4639192.9813bc90b8f29ee23fee2c61c35150e8d1ec919d@spica.telekom.de>

Bob,
Perhaps you can ask Mike Salter. He may still have short blocks for sale.
Josef Eckert
K?nigswinter/Germany
 
 
 
 

    Gentlemen:

     

    I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
    Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at
    the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I
    drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to
    remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said
    you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So,
    I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings
    along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed
    them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near
    the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and
    disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had
    removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I
    looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then
    remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous
    creek and am asking this group what I can do?

     

       1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps
          are not available and even if you could find them, they would
          need to be line bored on the engine.
       2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
          main bearing caps is almost impossible.
       3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

     

    My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I
    would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

     

    Please give me your advice.

     

    Best regards,

     

    Bob Begani

    67 Austin-Healey BJ8

     

     

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From jvwojcik at comcast.net  Fri Feb  9 14:14:05 2024
From: jvwojcik at comcast.net (jvwojcik at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 15:14:05 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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RE: Advice
Be very forgiving of yourself, Bob. Life is like this!
 
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of
rfbegani at gmail.com
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 9:47 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
 
Gentlemen:
 
I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last
month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and
bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need
polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to
bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in
one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and
then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous
creek and am asking this group what I can do?
 
1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main
bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
 
My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
 
Please give me your advice.
 
Best regards,
 
Bob Begani
67 Austin-Healey BJ8
 
 
 
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Fri Feb  9 14:36:47 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 16:36:47 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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Bob--

I agree with what Bob Spidell said and I'd find it hard to believe that a
set of rods and caps are not kicking around one of the shops that rebuild
Healeys and their engines.
Paul Tsikuris of Tsikuris Classics has such a shop in Lakeland, Florida and
I'm sure you'll get other suggestions.

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Fri Feb  9 16:00:25 2024
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 18:00:25 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
In-Reply-To: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
References: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
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Bob,  I am not an engineer but have been fixing my cars for 50 years or so
and rebuilt a few engines.  My opinion is that there would be no harm in
taking caps from another engine, machining the mating surfaces, then align
boring them.  This is not a really big deal and a competent engine
builder/machine shop can do it.  However, I would like to see one of the
specialists weigh in on that opinion.  Mike Salter - what do you think?

 

I don't think it would be too tough to locate a bare block and rob it of the
bearing caps.  If I read your message correctly, do you also need rods and
pistons?

 

Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of
rfbegani at gmail.com
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 10:47 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last
month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and
bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need
polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to
bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in
one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and
then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous
creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main
bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

 

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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Fri Feb  9 16:09:33 2024
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 18:09:33 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
In-Reply-To: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
References: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <022a01da5bad$0b1cd640$215682c0$@sympatico.ca>

Bob, I'd also want to know why your engine failed.  I assume based on what
you said you lost oil pressure, but why?  If I were you I'd want to solve
that before rebuilding that engine, if that is the route you go.

 

Cheers, MIrek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of
rfbegani at gmail.com
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 10:47 AM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last
month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and
bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need
polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to
bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in
one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and
then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous
creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main
bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

 

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From drscholz at visioncenterpc.com  Fri Feb  9 16:41:06 2024
From: drscholz at visioncenterpc.com (Chris Scholz)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 23:41:06 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure-swap in an LS1
In-Reply-To: <9e837719-5dfe-41db-ba23-7b9aef4c7c6a@comcast.net>
References: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
 <D136E6C0-74BF-4F86-8297-55F3CD3F1FB5@visioncenterpc.com>
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[IMG_2325.jpeg]
1959 100-6.  All stock except LS1 and transmission.  200lbs lighter.  Mechanically, one of my most reliable cars I own.  350hp with 2000lbs.  30mpg.  Added the Healey front discs.

[Image.jpeg]

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On Feb 9, 2024, at 5:32?PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

? Sounds like you should've bought a C5 'Vette instead of an Austin-Healey in the first place.


On 2/9/2024 9:08 AM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
I had a similar incident.  I swapped in an aluminum LS1 with an GM transmission.  My car is 200lbs lighter and so much more fun to drive.  My reliability is excellent.
Sent from my iPhone
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On Feb 9, 2024, at 10:13?AM, rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:

?
Gentlemen:

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?


  1.  I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
  2.  I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
  3.  Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

Please give me your advice.

Best regards,

Bob Begani
67 Austin-Healey BJ8


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From gradea1 at charter.net  Fri Feb  9 16:43:09 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2024 23:43:09 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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From drscholz at visioncenterpc.com  Fri Feb  9 16:45:41 2024
From: drscholz at visioncenterpc.com (Chris Scholz)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 23:45:41 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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 <CAGfzsZd3aKYHt+Y4iXJ_FfET-d=s5M0b4GNgH-NGivh-aD+T1w@mail.gmail.com>
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Rick was the best source of advice for my LS swap.

Sent from my iPhone
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On Feb 9, 2024, at 4:09?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

?
Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

Best of luck,
Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>> wrote:
Gentlemen:

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?


  1.  I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
  2.  I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
  3.  Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

Please give me your advice.

Best regards,

Bob Begani
67 Austin-Healey BJ8


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From jim at jimbunte.com  Fri Feb  9 18:16:10 2024
From: jim at jimbunte.com (Jim Bunte)
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2024 19:16:10 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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References: <017e01da5b6f$335273b0$99f75b10$@gmail.com>
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I foresee the swap as a big thing in the near future.


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On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 6:54 PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:

> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that
> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM
> mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc.
> did you use?  All options are on the table.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
>
>
> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
> Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find
> a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
> choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few
> years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the
> club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there
> might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have
> one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
>
>
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
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From ynotink at msn.com  Fri Feb  9 22:31:30 2024
From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:31:30 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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I don?t think you need to be too specific about the year or version of the engine. I think these parts are the same all the way through six cylinder production. That might make your search a little easier.

Bill Lawrence
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Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 9:36 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com <rfbegani at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Bob--

I agree with what Bob Spidell said and I'd find it hard to believe that a set of rods and caps are not kicking around one of the shops that rebuild Healeys and their engines.
Paul Tsikuris of Tsikuris Classics has such a shop in Lakeland, Florida and I'm sure you'll get other suggestions.

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>> wrote:

Gentlemen:



I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?



  1.  I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
  2.  I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
  3.  Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.



My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.



Please give me your advice.



Best regards,



Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8





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From drscholz at visioncenterpc.com  Fri Feb  9 23:25:52 2024
From: drscholz at visioncenterpc.com (Chris Scholz)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 06:25:52 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works great.
Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.

Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD

On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

?
A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was.

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.

Best of Luck,
Rick

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>> wrote:
Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

Bob

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com<mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

Best of luck,
Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>> wrote:
Gentlemen:

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?


  1.  I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
  2.  I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
  3.  Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

Please give me your advice.

Best regards,

Bob Begani
67 Austin-Healey BJ8


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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 10 01:13:35 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 08:13:35 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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 I have heard of people actually building up 1 side of each cap then VERY
carefully milling them to match the block but have never seen it done or
heard whether this is a satisfactory solution

M
On Sat., Feb. 10, 2024, 6:13 a.m. m.g.sharp--- via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Bob, I?d also want to know why your engine failed.  I assume based on what
> you said you lost oil pressure, but why?  If I were you I?d want to solve
> that before rebuilding that engine, if that is the route you go.
>
>
>
> Cheers, MIrek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *
> rfbegani at gmail.com
> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 10:47 AM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
>
>
> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 10 03:35:25 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 10:35:25 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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It's even a little more complicated than that.
The BJ8 block is different from the earlier 3000 type in that it has the
dip stick in a different position and I'm told improved internal gusseting,
although I have  ever actually compared the 2 types.
Boring a 100/6 block to 3000 can be done but is *VERY* risky as detailed
here.
https://precisionsportscar.com/3000-bores-in-a-1006-block/

M
M


On Sat., Feb. 10, 2024, 9:26 a.m. Hank Leach via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I checked some friends- Lots of 100-6 and 26 series available *but not
> BJ8s*-best try a junk yard for a total-maybe Hagerty bought one off and
> its sitting in a wreck. If you want to keep it original it needs the 2912
> block and 2" carbs (which your head should be ok). Hank
> --------------------
>
> From: "Bob Spidell" <bspidell at comcast.net>
> To: <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: February 9, 2024 at 2:48 PM PST
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
> Here's one in FL; may still be around:
>
> https://www.ahexp.com/forum/the-100-six-forum.5/engine-for-sale.274943/
>
> On 2/9/2024 7:46 AM, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>
> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
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From: flyhihealey at gmail.com (Warren Dietz)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:52:49 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 15:09:28 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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I wouldn?t buy a Mercedes with a BMW engine and gearbox and a Volvo 
radiator.
 
Josef Eckert
K?nigswinter/Germany
 
 
 
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
Datum: 2024-02-10T15:01:23+0100
Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com>
 
 
 
I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard 
radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and 
car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to 
fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything 
barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator 
fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works 
great.  
Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip 
diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.  
 Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up 
in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 
so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.   
I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to 
slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the 
heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s 
first choice if GM would have worked with him.  
 
Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD


    On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:


    A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
    "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making
    engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells
    so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the
    other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New
    electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission
    shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra,
    but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.
     You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed
    transmission into my BJ7 here: 
    <http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264>   The Ford 5.0 is
    narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge
    difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with
    low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very
    helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine
    rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock
    rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power
    than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is
    really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever.
    Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much
    work it was.
     
    My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try
    a replacement Healey 6.
     
    Best of Luck,
    Rick

    On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com
    <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

      Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that
      suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired
      GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine
      trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

       

      Bob

       

      From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >
      Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
      To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>
      Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
      Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

       

      Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
      Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying
      to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad
      group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a
      BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a
      wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and
      hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey
      Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding
      somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

       

      Best of luck,

      Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

       

      On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com
      <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

       Gentlemen:

        

       I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
       Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at
       the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home,
       I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started
       to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend
       said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new
       bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps,
       bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual
       plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was
       put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
       garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he
       asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he
       would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not
       find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in
       the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this
       group what I can do?

        

          1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps
             are not available and even if you could find them, they would
             need to be line bored on the engine.
          2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with
             original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
          3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

        

       My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I
       would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

        

       Please give me your advice.

        

       Best regards,

        

       Bob Begani

       67 Austin-Healey BJ8

        

        

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From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 08:26:43 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric 
motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or 
Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much 
past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips 
anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past).

I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I 
bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated, 
and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to 
sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all 
around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several 
modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide 
and Steeda suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s 
(supposedly; I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and 
heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on 
the sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and 
it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by 
far--warts and all.

Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it" 
person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; 
taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in 
the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a 
car they don't actually want just to change it (owners with 
broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a 
Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the 
record, I don't much care for breast implants either; just not the same.

* Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to 
see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't 
happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a 
dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do 
have garish paint jobs though).




On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
> I love my LS1 swap. ?It was a lot of work. ?Aluminum dual passage 
> Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat 
> index and car stays right at 195 degrees. ?Lots of work to get the 
> alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap 
> kit. ? Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between 
> the electric radiator fan and my water pump. Had to cut the steering 
> shaft and u joint. ?Works great.
> Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited 
> slip diff and it works perfectly. ?72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 
> wide tires. ? Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much 
> lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?. ?It rides and handles so well. 
> ?My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8. ?I 
> feel my value went up.
> I love my reliability and the torque is amazing. ?Car is so much fun 
> to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go. ?I would never go back 
> to the heavy iron block. ?I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been 
> Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Chris Scholz OD
>
>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as 
>> "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making 
>> engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the 
>> footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.? 
>> It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the 
>> work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, 
>> transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want 
>> a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your 
>> car's value or more.? You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 
>> 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: 
>> http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264 The Ford 5.0 is narrower 
>> than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge 
>> difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with 
>> low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very 
>> helpful.? I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the 
>> engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the 
>> stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.? Much more 
>> power than that and those parts will start braking.? A good engine 
>> swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare 
>> forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to 
>> how much work it was.
>>
>> My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to 
>> try a replacement Healey 6.
>>
>> Best of Luck,
>> Rick
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>     Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.? Chris just made that
>>     suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.? My Bother is a
>>     retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.? Did you do the exchange??
>>     What engine trans etc. did you use?? All options are on the table.
>>
>>     Bob
>>
>>     *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>>     *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
>>     *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
>>     *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
>>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>
>>     Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems
>>     correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.?
>>     Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is
>>     the best of a bad group of choices.? Too bad, I gave away a bare
>>     block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our
>>     club charity.? I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and
>>     Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might
>>     have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they
>>     have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and
>>     put a V8 in there!
>>
>>     Best of luck,
>>
>>     Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>>
>>     On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>         Gentlemen:
>>
>>         I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
>>         Austin-Healey.? Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine,
>>         looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to
>>         have towed home, I drove it back slowly.? Last month, I
>>         dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
>>         and bearings.? My mechanic friend said you got lucky the
>>         crank may only need polishing and new bearings. So, I packed
>>         and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings
>>         along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags.
>>         Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put
>>         under the workbench near the garbage.? We towed the car to
>>         Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.?
>>         Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from
>>         the engine so he would have everything in one place.? I
>>         looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and
>>         then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
>>         up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>>
>>          1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing
>>             caps are not available and even if you could find them,
>>             they would need to be line bored on the engine.
>>          2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with
>>             original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>>          3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>>
>>         My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything
>>         new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing
>>         engine, if possible.
>>
>>         Please give me your advice.
>>
>>         Best regards,
>>
>>         Bob Begani
>>
>>         67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>>
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From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com  Sat Feb 10 10:16:54 2024
From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 17:16:54 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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My feelings exactly.

Jean
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: February 10, 2024 2:09 PM
To: Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>; HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure


I wouldn?t buy a Mercedes with a BMW engine and gearbox and a Volvo radiator.



Josef Eckert

K?nigswinter/Germany







-----Original-Nachricht-----

Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Datum: 2024-02-10T15:01:23+0100

Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>

An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com>







I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works great.
Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.

Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD

On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was.

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.

Best of Luck,
Rick

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>> wrote:

Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.



Bob



From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com<mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure



Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!



Best of luck,

Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"



On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>> wrote:

Gentlemen:



I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?



  1.  I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
  2.  I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
  3.  Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.



My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.



Please give me your advice.



Best regards,



Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8





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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sat Feb 10 10:31:31 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 17:31:31 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] WG: Re: BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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I have several pre BJ8 blocks both 100/6 and 3000 but no BJ8's they are in
short supply everywhere  unfortunately.


M

On Sat., Feb. 10, 2024, 2:04 a.m. josef-eckert--- via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Perhaps you can ask Mike Salter. He may still have short blocks for sale.
>
> Josef Eckert
>
> K?nigswinter/Germany
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
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From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:10:41 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 12:16?PM Jean Caron <
vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com> wrote:

> My feelings exactly.
>
> Jean
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of
> josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* February 10, 2024 2:09 PM
> *To:* Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>; HealeyRick <
> healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
>
> I wouldn?t buy a Mercedes with a BMW engine and gearbox and a Volvo
> radiator.
>
>
>
> Josef Eckert
>
> K?nigswinter/Germany
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
> Datum: 2024-02-10T15:01:23+0100
>
> Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
> An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard
> radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and
> car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to
> fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything
> barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
> fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works
> great.
> Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip
> diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.
>   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up
> in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6
> so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
> I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to
> slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the
> heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s
> first choice if GM would have worked with him.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Chris Scholz OD
>
> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
> "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine
> and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the
> motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff
> you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
> radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc.
> It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock
> off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I
> had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
> http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower
> than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS
> motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and
> with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75%
> of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My
> car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72
> spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start
> braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it
> will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but
> he can speak to how much work it was.
>
> My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a
> replacement Healey 6.
>
> Best of Luck,
> Rick
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that
> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM
> mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc.
> did you use?  All options are on the table.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
>
>
> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
> Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find
> a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
> choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few
> years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the
> club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there
> might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have
> one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
>
>
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Sat Feb 10 11:12:17 2024
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 19:12:17 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] WG: Re: BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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I am not sure, but I think the bearing caps of an earlier engine, 29D to 
29F should fit as well. Perhaps even those of a 100/6 engine.
They should be all the same.
 
Josef Eckert
K?nigswinter/Germany
 
 
 
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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] WG: Re: BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
Datum: 2024-02-10T18:31:45+0100
Von: "Michael Salter" <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
 
 
 
I have several pre BJ8 blocks both 100/6 and 3000 but no BJ8's they are in 
short supply everywhere  unfortunately. 
 
 
M

On Sat., Feb. 10, 2024, 2:04 a.m. josef-eckert--- via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:
  Bob,
  Perhaps you can ask Mike Salter. He may still have short blocks for sale.
  Josef Eckert
  K?nigswinter/Germany
   
   
   
   

      Gentlemen:

       

      I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
      Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at
      the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I
      drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to
      remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said
      you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings. 
      So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and
      bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags.
      Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the
      workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he
      could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring
      the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything
      in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic
      bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
      up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?

       

         1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps
            are not available and even if you could find them, they would
            need to be line bored on the engine.
         2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
            main bearing caps is almost impossible.
         3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

       

      My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I
      would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

       

      Please give me your advice.

       

      Best regards,

       

      Bob Begani

      67 Austin-Healey BJ8

       

       

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From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 18:17:40 +0000
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From drtommitch at gmail.com  Sat Feb 10 12:02:38 2024
From: drtommitch at gmail.com (Tom Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 13:02:38 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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I've heard (I have not substantiated it) that there a an electric swap
available for a Datsun Z.

Tom Mitchell
65 BJ8


On Sat, Feb 10, 2024, 11:59?AM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric
> motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or
> Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much
> past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips
> anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past).
>
> I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I
> bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated,
> and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to
> sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all
> around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes),
> 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda
> suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly;
> I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon
> a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and
> straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the
> Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.
>
> Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it"
> person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller
> rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but
> I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't
> actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who
> think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way
> you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for
> breast implants either; just not the same.
>
> * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see
> a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't
> happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a
> dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have
> garish paint jobs though).
>
>
>
>
> On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
>
> I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard
> radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and
> car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to
> fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything
> barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
> fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works
> great.
> Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip
> diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.
>   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up
> in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6
> so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
> I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to
> slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the
> heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s
> first choice if GM would have worked with him.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Chris Scholz OD
>
> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
> "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine
> and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the
> motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff
> you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
> radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc.
> It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock
> off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I
> had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
> http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower
> than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS
> motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and
> with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75%
> of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My
> car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72
> spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start
> braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it
> will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but
> he can speak to how much work it was.
>
> My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a
> replacement Healey 6.
>
> Best of Luck,
> Rick
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that
>> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM
>> mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc.
>> did you use?  All options are on the table.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
>> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
>> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
>> Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find
>> a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
>> choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few
>> years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the
>> club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there
>> might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have
>> one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best of luck,
>>
>> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen:
>>
>>
>>
>> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
>> Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the
>> oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it
>> back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod
>> and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the
>> crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked
>> each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods
>> and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic
>> bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car
>> to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he
>> asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
>> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
>> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
>> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>>    bored on the engine.
>>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I
>> would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please give me your advice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Begani
>>
>> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Sat Feb 10 12:19:37 2024
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 14:19:37 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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LOL - Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of josef-eckert--- via Healeys
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 9:09 AM
To: Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>; HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

I wouldn?t buy a Mercedes with a BMW engine and gearbox and a Volvo radiator.

 

Josef Eckert

K?nigswinter/Germany

 

 

 

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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Datum: 2024-02-10T15:01:23+0100

Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >

 

 

 

I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works great.   

Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.   

I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.  

 

Sent from my iPhone 

Chris Scholz OD

 

On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > wrote:

A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was. 

 

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.

 

Best of Luck,

Rick

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

 

Bob

 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

 

Best of luck,

Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

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From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 14:38:48 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say, to
each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours,
modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc.
Can't we all just get along? ?

Rick

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric
> motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or
> Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much
> past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips
> anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past).
>
> I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I
> bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated,
> and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to
> sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all
> around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes),
> 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda
> suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly;
> I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon
> a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and
> straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the
> Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.
>
> Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it"
> person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller
> rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but
> I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't
> actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who
> think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way
> you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for
> breast implants either; just not the same.
>
> * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see
> a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't
> happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a
> dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have
> garish paint jobs though).
>
>
>
>
> On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
>
> I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard
> radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and
> car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to
> fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything
> barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
> fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works
> great.
> Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip
> diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.
>   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up
> in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6
> so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
> I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to
> slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the
> heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s
> first choice if GM would have worked with him.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Chris Scholz OD
>
> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
> "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine
> and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the
> motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff
> you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
> radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc.
> It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock
> off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I
> had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
> http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower
> than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS
> motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and
> with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75%
> of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My
> car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72
> spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start
> braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it
> will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but
> he can speak to how much work it was.
>
> My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a
> replacement Healey 6.
>
> Best of Luck,
> Rick
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that
>> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM
>> mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc.
>> did you use?  All options are on the table.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
>> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
>> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
>> Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find
>> a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
>> choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few
>> years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the
>> club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there
>> might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have
>> one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best of luck,
>>
>> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen:
>>
>>
>>
>> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
>> Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the
>> oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it
>> back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod
>> and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the
>> crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked
>> each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods
>> and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic
>> bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car
>> to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he
>> asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
>> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
>> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
>> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>>    bored on the engine.
>>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I
>> would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please give me your advice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Begani
>>
>> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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On 2/10/2024 11:38 AM, HealeyRick wrote:
> Now, you've gone too far, Bob.? An electric Healey? Bleah!? As you 
> say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for 
> concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey 
> boats, etc. Can't we all just get along???
>
> Rick
>
> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an
>     electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors
>     off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a
>     Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many
>     owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips
>     are, unfortunately, in the past).
>
>     I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so
>     I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens)
>     un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my
>     survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I
>     could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric
>     throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with
>     Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension
>     upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm
>     not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I
>     reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the
>     sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and
>     it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to
>     drive--by far--warts and all.
>
>     Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want
>     with it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix
>     Ignitors in both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas
>     Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will,
>     understand why people buy a car they don't actually want just to
>     change it (owners with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?'
>     I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want
>     it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for
>     breast implants either; just not the same.
>
>     * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet
>     to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean
>     it hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs,
>     LSes, etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or
>     imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).
>
>
>
>
>     On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
>>     I love my LS1 swap.? It was a lot of work.? Aluminum dual passage
>>     Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110
>>     heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.? Lots of work to
>>     get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep
>>     wrangler LS swap kit. ? Everything barely fit
>>     longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
>>     fan and my water pump. ? Had to cut the steering shaft and u
>>     joint.? Works great.
>>     Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife
>>     limited slip diff and it works perfectly. ?72? Daytona wire
>>     wheels with 205 wide tires. ? Lowered the front spring perches
>>     -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.? It
>>     rides and handles so well.? My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t
>>     worth as much stock as a BJ8.? I feel my value went up.
>>     I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.? Car is so much
>>     fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.? I would never
>>     go back to the heavy iron block.? I feel this an aluminum V8
>>     would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked
>>     with him.
>>
>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>     Chris Scholz OD
>>
>>>     On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>>>     <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     ?
>>>     A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as
>>>     simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly
>>>     focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting
>>>     away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the
>>>     exhaust headers in place.? It's all the other stuff you need to
>>>     do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
>>>     radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter,
>>>     etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra,
>>>     but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value
>>>     or more.? You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L
>>>     and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
>>>     http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264 The Ford 5.0 is
>>>     narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a
>>>     huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a
>>>     junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM
>>>     mechanic, would be very helpful.? I did about 50-75% of the swap
>>>     myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My
>>>     car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and
>>>     Dayton 72 spoke wires.? Much more power than that and those
>>>     parts will start braking.? A good engine swap is really a joy,
>>>     but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris
>>>     did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much
>>>     work it was.
>>>
>>>     My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be
>>>     to try a replacement Healey 6.
>>>
>>>     Best of Luck,
>>>     Rick
>>>
>>>     On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.? Chris just made
>>>         that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.? My Bother
>>>         is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.? Did you do the
>>>         exchange?? What engine trans etc. did you use?? All options
>>>         are on the table.
>>>
>>>         Bob
>>>
>>>         *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>>>         *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
>>>         *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
>>>         *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
>>>         *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>>
>>>         Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems
>>>         correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough
>>>         spot. Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8
>>>         motor is the best of a bad group of choices.? Too bad, I
>>>         gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago
>>>         for a donation to our club charity.? I'd put a wanted ad in
>>>         the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and
>>>         hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey
>>>         Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs
>>>         rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
>>>
>>>         Best of luck,
>>>
>>>         Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>>>
>>>         On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Gentlemen:
>>>
>>>             I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my
>>>             67 Austin-Healey. Drove it a mile and heard clanking
>>>             engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of
>>>             stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.?
>>>             Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the
>>>             rod and crank caps and bearings.? My mechanic friend
>>>             said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and
>>>             new bearings.? So, I packed and marked each of the main
>>>             bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods
>>>             and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them
>>>             into a larger plastic bag which was put under the
>>>             workbench near the garbage. We towed the car to Mikes
>>>             garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.
>>>             Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed
>>>             from the engine so he would have everything in one
>>>             place.? I looked around but could not find this black
>>>             plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the
>>>             garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking
>>>             this group what I can do?
>>>
>>>              1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main
>>>                 Bearing caps are not available and even if you could
>>>                 find them, they would need to be line bored on the
>>>                 engine.
>>>              2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000
>>>                 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>>>              3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>>>
>>>             My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago
>>>             everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing
>>>             the existing engine, if possible.
>>>
>>>             Please give me your advice.
>>>
>>>             Best regards,
>>>
>>>             Bob Begani
>>>
>>>             67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>>>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 05:37:39 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 11 04:40:46 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:40:46 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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Hank, I'm very interested to know if you have any experience with line
boring a Healey 6 cylinder engine in order to accommodate mismatched main
bearing caps.
I approached a very experienced shop that I have great confidence in with
this issue and was told that to do the job "correctly " involved an
extensive amount of work as in the case of the particular engine I was
trying to rebuild the center of the bore on the caps was displaced around
0.018" from that of the block.

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From drscholz at visioncenterpc.com  Sun Feb 11 05:54:41 2024
From: drscholz at visioncenterpc.com (Chris Scholz)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 12:54:41 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric conversion.

An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.

Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD

On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

?
Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? ?

Rick

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past).

I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.

Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for breast implants either; just not the same.

* Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).




On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works great.
Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.

Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD

On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com><mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

?
A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was.

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.

Best of Luck,
Rick

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>> wrote:
Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

Bob

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com<mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

Best of luck,
Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>> wrote:
Gentlemen:

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?


  1.  I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
  2.  I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
  3.  Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

Please give me your advice.

Best regards,

Bob Begani
67 Austin-Healey BJ8


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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Sun Feb 11 08:06:25 2024
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 16:06:25 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to 
V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey 
as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar 
XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a 
Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to 
the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on 
European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any  motorway here in 
Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.
 
Josef Eckert
K?nigswinter/Germany
 
 
 
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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100
Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com>
 
 
 
I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric 
conversion.  
 
An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.  

Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD


    On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:


    Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say,
    to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for
    concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey
    boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? ?
     
    Rick

    On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
    healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:
      The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an
      electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off
      an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey
      chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do
      more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are,
      unfortunately, in the past).

      I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I
      bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens)
      un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my
      survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I
      could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric
      throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin
      Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrades (the
      IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm not good enough
      and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy
      would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights
      it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the
      Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and
      all.

      Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with
      it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in
      both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with
      shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why
      people buy a car they don't actually want just to change it (owners
      with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not
      buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and
      for the record, I don't much care for breast implants either; just
      not the same.

      * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to
      see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it
      hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc.
      are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative
      (they do have garish paint jobs though).




      On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:

          I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage
          Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110
          heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to
          get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep
          wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit
          longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
          fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u
          joint.  Works great.  
          Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife
          limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire
          wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches
          -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It
          rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t
          worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.   
          I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much
          fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never
          go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8
          would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked
          with him.  
           
          Sent from my iPhone
          Chris Scholz OD


              On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
              <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:


              A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as
              simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly
              focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting
              away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the
              exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need
              to do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
              radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter,
              etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a
              Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of
              your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do
              to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
              <http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264>   The Ford 5.0
              is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but
              not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found
              in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM
              mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the
              swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body
              fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end
              with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power
              than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine
              swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a
              nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS
              but he can speak to how much work it was.
               
              My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would
              be to try a replacement Healey 6.
               
              Best of Luck,
              Rick

              On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com
              <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

                Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made
                that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother
                is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the
                exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options
                are on the table.

                 

                Bob

                 

                From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com
                <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >
                Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
                To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>
                Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
                Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

                 

                Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems
                correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough
                spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable
                BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad,
                I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years
                ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted
                ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages
                and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills,
                Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs
                rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in
                there!

                 

                Best of luck,

                Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

                 

                On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com
                <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

                 Gentlemen:

                  

                 I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
                 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine,
                 looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping
                 to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I
                 dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank
                 caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky
                 the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I
                 packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts,
                 and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual
                 plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag
                 which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We
                 towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and
                 disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the
                 parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
                 everything in one place.  I looked around but could not
                 find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got
                 pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek
                 and am asking this group what I can do?

                  

                    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main
                       Bearing caps are not available and even if you could
                       find them, they would need to be line bored on the
                       engine.
                    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000
                       with original main bearing caps is almost
                       impossible.
                    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

                  

                 My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything
                 new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing
                 engine, if possible.

                  

                 Please give me your advice.

                  

                 Best regards,

                  

                 Bob Begani

                 67 Austin-Healey BJ8

                  

                  

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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Sun Feb 11 08:08:18 2024
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 15:08:18 -0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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I used to have a Sunbeam Tiger and, as I recall, the alu 260 Cu? was lighter than the cast iron 4 cyl in the Alpines. Tiger was a fun car. Not 100% trustworthy on corners but OK. 

Skidded into a stone wall on wet leaves?steep hill, big leaves. Car was never the same so I sold it. Shame.

Simon

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Scholz via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 12:55 PM
To: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric conversion.   

 

An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.  

 

Sent from my iPhone 

Chris Scholz OD





On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > wrote:

? 

Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? ? 

 

Rick

 

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past). 

I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.

Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for breast implants either; just not the same.

* Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).





On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:

I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works great.   

Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.   

I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.  

 

Sent from my iPhone 

Chris Scholz OD





On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick  <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

? 

A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was. 

 

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.

 

Best of Luck,

Rick

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

 

Bob

 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

 

Best of luck,

Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

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From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:08:48 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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woman as she kissed the cow".*

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On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:30?AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to
> V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey
> as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar
> XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a
> Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to
> the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on
> European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any  motorway here in
> Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.
>
>
>
> Josef Eckert
>
> K?nigswinter/Germany
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
> Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100
>
> Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
> An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric
> conversion.
>
> An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Chris Scholz OD
>
> On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say, to
> each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours,
> modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc.
> Can't we all just get along? ?
>
> Rick
>
> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric
>> motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or
>> Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much
>> past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips
>> anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past).
>>
>> I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I
>> bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated,
>> and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to
>> sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all
>> around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes),
>> 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda
>> suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly;
>> I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon
>> a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and
>> straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the
>> Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.
>>
>> Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it"
>> person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller
>> rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but
>> I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't
>> actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who
>> think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way
>> you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for
>> breast implants either; just not the same.
>>
>> * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see
>> a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't
>> happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a
>> dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have
>> garish paint jobs though).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard
>> radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and
>> car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to
>> fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything
>> barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
>> fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works
>> great.
>> Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip
>> diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.
>>   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up
>> in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6
>> so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
>> I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to
>> slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the
>> heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s
>> first choice if GM would have worked with him.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Chris Scholz OD
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
>> "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine
>> and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the
>> motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff
>> you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
>> radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc.
>> It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock
>> off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I
>> had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
>> http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower
>> than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS
>> motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and
>> with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75%
>> of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My
>> car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72
>> spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start
>> braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it
>> will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but
>> he can speak to how much work it was.
>>
>> My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a
>> replacement Healey 6.
>>
>> Best of Luck,
>> Rick
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that
>>> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM
>>> mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc.
>>> did you use?  All options are on the table.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
>>> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
>>> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
>>> Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find
>>> a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
>>> choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few
>>> years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the
>>> club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there
>>> might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have
>>> one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best of luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gentlemen:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
>>> Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the
>>> oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it
>>> back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod
>>> and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the
>>> crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked
>>> each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods
>>> and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic
>>> bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car
>>> to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he
>>> asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
>>> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
>>> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
>>> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps
>>>    are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be
>>>    line bored on the engine.
>>>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>>>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>>>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I
>>> would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please give me your advice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Begani
>>>
>>> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 17:23:36 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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Michael,
I do not mind and I am fully with you. I even do not mind if one puts his 
car in the dining room or fills it with water or throws it down a bridge. 
Its his/her car and everybody can do with belongings what they want as long 
others are not hurt.or their belongings are not damaged with.
But I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind cannot 
follow.
 
Josef eckert
K?nigswinter/Germany
 
 
 
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
Datum: 2024-02-11T17:09:02+0100
Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
 
 
 
Joseph--
 
As the famous Wellerism goes ''Every one to his own taste,' said the old 
woman as she kissed the cow".
 
Best--Michael Oritt
 

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:30?AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:
  What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to
  V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey
  as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a
  Jaguar XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car
  which is a Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways
  superiour to the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy
  traffic on European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any 
  motorway here in Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.
   
  Josef Eckert
  K?nigswinter/Germany
   
   
   
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  Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
  Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100
  Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net
  <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
  An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >
   
   
   
  I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric
  conversion.  
   
  An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.  

  Sent from my iPhone
  Chris Scholz OD


      On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com
      <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > wrote:


      Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you
      say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for
      concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey
      boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? ?
       
      Rick

      On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
      healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:
        The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an
        electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors
        off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a
        Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many
        owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are,
        unfortunately, in the past).

        I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so
        I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens)
        un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my
        survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I
        could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric
        throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin
        Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrades
        (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm not good
        enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a
        Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and
        straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but
        the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by
        far--warts and all.

        Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with
        it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in
        both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with
        shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why
        people buy a car they don't actually want just to change it (owners
        with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why
        not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch?
        Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for breast implants
        either; just not the same.

        * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet
        to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it
        hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes,
        etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or
        imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).




        On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:

            I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual
            passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a
            parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees. 
            Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket
            from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit
            longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
            fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u
            joint.  Works great.  
            Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife
            limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire
            wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches
            -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It
            rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it
            wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up. 
             
            I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so
            much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would
            never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum
            V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have
            worked with him.  
             
            Sent from my iPhone
            Chris Scholz OD


                On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick 
                <healeyrik at gmail.com> <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:


                A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as
                simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly
                focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and
                cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit
                with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other
                stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New
                electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system,
                transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if
                you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30
                percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work
                I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission
                into my BJ7 here: 
                <http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264>   The Ford
                5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to
                do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to
                be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your
                brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about
                50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild
                and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock
                rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much
                more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A
                good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one
                it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice
                swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was.
                 
                My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed"
                would be to try a replacement Healey 6.
                 
                Best of Luck,
                Rick

                On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com
                <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

                  Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just
                  made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My
                  Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you
                  do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use? 
                  All options are on the table.

                   

                  Bob

                   

                  From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com
                  <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >
                  Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
                  To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>
                  Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
                  <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
                  Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

                   

                  Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far
                  seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a
                  tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a
                  rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
                  choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps
                  from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club
                  charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and
                  Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there
                  might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David
                  Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding
                  somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

                   

                  Best of luck,

                  Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

                   

                  On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com
                  <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

                   Gentlemen:

                    

                   I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my
                   67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking
                   engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of
                   stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly. 
                   Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the
                   rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend
                   said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and
                   new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
                   bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods
                   and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them
                   into a larger plastic bag which was put under the
                   workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
                   garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine. 
                   Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed
                   from the engine so he would have everything in one
                   place.  I looked around but could not find this black
                   plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the
                   garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking
                   this group what I can do?

                    

                      1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main
                         Bearing caps are not available and even if you
                         could find them, they would need to be line bored
                         on the engine.
                      2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000
                         with original main bearing caps is almost
                         impossible.
                      3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

                    

                   My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago
                   everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing
                   the existing engine, if possible.

                    

                   Please give me your advice.

                    

                   Best regards,

                    

                   Bob Begani

                   67 Austin-Healey BJ8

                    

                    

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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Sun Feb 11 09:42:37 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:42:37 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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Joseph--

You said:  "I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind
cannot follow."

That's a different problem as what makes sense to one of us may not make
sense to another.

In my case I replaced my BN1's original three-speed transmission with a
Smitty's five-speed conversion and W58 transmission because:

1.  I had driven to California--about 3,000 miles from my home in
Maryland--when the second gear cluster broke and
2.  I wanted to complete the trip driving the car rather than having it
shipped home, still broken, and
2.  I was about 100 miles from Smitty's shop in Thousand Oaks CA and he had
both a rebuilt W58 and a conversion kit on hand, and
4.  Even assuming I could have found a replacement cluster and a facility
that could have installed it in a reasonable amount of time, etc., the
original transmission was a POS in the first place, as was the manual
clutch which I also replaced with an hydraulic clutch (later upgraded to a
BJ8 diaphragm unit)

So, my decision was easy for me to make and after a couple of days working
at Smitty's shop and an outlay of a reasonable sum of money I was able to
drive back to MD.  Beyond that I feel that what I gave up in originality I
have more than gotten back in driveability.

Best--Michael Oritt


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 11:23?AM josef-eckert at t-online.de <
josef-eckert at t-online.de> wrote:

> Michael,
>
> I do not mind and I am fully with you. I even do not mind if one puts his
> car in the dining room or fills it with water or throws it down a bridge.
> Its his/her car and everybody can do with belongings what they want as long
> others are not hurt.or their belongings are not damaged with.
>
> But I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind cannot
> follow.
>
>
>
> Josef eckert
>
> K?nigswinter/Germany
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
> Datum: 2024-02-11T17:09:02+0100
>
> Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
>
> An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Joseph--
>
> As the famous Wellerism goes *''Every one to his own taste,' said the old
> woman as she kissed the cow".*
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:30?AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to
>> V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey
>> as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar
>> XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a
>> Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to
>> the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on
>> European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any  motorway here in
>> Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.
>>
>>
>>
>> Josef Eckert
>>
>> K?nigswinter/Germany
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>>
>> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>
>> Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100
>>
>> Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>
>> An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric
>> conversion.
>>
>> An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Chris Scholz OD
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say,
>> to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours,
>> modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc.
>> Can't we all just get along? ?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric
>>> motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or
>>> Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much
>>> past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips
>>> anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past).
>>>
>>> I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I
>>> bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated,
>>> and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to
>>> sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all
>>> around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes),
>>> 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda
>>> suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly;
>>> I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon
>>> a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and
>>> straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the
>>> Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.
>>>
>>> Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it"
>>> person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller
>>> rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but
>>> I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't
>>> actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who
>>> think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way
>>> you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for
>>> breast implants either; just not the same.
>>>
>>> * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to
>>> see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't
>>> happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a
>>> dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have
>>> garish paint jobs though).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
>>>
>>> I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard
>>> radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and
>>> car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to
>>> fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything
>>> barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
>>> fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works
>>> great.
>>> Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip
>>> diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.
>>>   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up
>>> in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6
>>> so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
>>> I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to
>>> slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the
>>> heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s
>>> first choice if GM would have worked with him.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Chris Scholz OD
>>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>>> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
>>> "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine
>>> and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the
>>> motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff
>>> you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
>>> radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc.
>>> It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock
>>> off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I
>>> had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
>>> http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower
>>> than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS
>>> motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and
>>> with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75%
>>> of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My
>>> car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72
>>> spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start
>>> braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it
>>> will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but
>>> he can speak to how much work it was.
>>>
>>> My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try
>>> a replacement Healey 6.
>>>
>>> Best of Luck,
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that
>>>> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM
>>>> mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc.
>>>> did you use?  All options are on the table.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
>>>> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
>>>> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
>>>> Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find
>>>> a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
>>>> choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few
>>>> years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the
>>>> club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there
>>>> might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have
>>>> one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best of luck,
>>>>
>>>> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gentlemen:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
>>>> Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the
>>>> oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it
>>>> back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod
>>>> and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the
>>>> crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked
>>>> each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods
>>>> and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic
>>>> bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car
>>>> to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he
>>>> asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
>>>> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
>>>> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
>>>> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps
>>>>    are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be
>>>>    line bored on the engine.
>>>>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>>>>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>>>>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I
>>>> would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please give me your advice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bob Begani
>>>>
>>>> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 17:56:12 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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Michael,
I have to say I am different. For me it would be a pain to do what you do. 
I do not see any fun. But its your live and you should do what you want.
I assume I could buy two other cars which would give me much more fun for 
the same money you spent. And at least here in Europe I have a better 
return of the iinvestment and Safety is an issue for me..
 
Josef Eckert
K?nigswinter/Germany
 
 
 
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
Datum: 2024-02-11T17:42:55+0100
Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
 
 
 
Joseph--
 
You said:  "I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind 
cannot follow."
 
That's a different problem as what makes sense to one of us may not make 
sense to another.
 
In my case I replaced my BN1's original three-speed transmission with a 
Smitty's five-speed conversion and W58 transmission because:
 
1.  I had driven to California--about 3,000 miles from my home in 
Maryland--when the second gear cluster broke and 
2.  I wanted to complete the trip driving the car rather than having it 
shipped home, still broken, and
2.  I was about 100 miles from Smitty's shop in Thousand Oaks CA and he had 
both a rebuilt W58 and a conversion kit on hand, and
4.  Even assuming I could have found a replacement cluster and a facility 
that could have installed it in a reasonable amount of time, etc., the 
original transmission was a POS in the first place, as was the manual 
clutch which I also replaced with an hydraulic clutch (later upgraded to a 
BJ8 diaphragm unit)
 
So, my decision was easy for me to make and after a couple of days working 
at Smitty's shop and an outlay of a reasonable sum of money I was able to 
drive back to MD.  Beyond that I feel that what I gave up in originality I 
have more than gotten back in driveability.
 
Best--Michael Oritt
 

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 11:23?AM josef-eckert at t-online.de
<mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> <josef-eckert at t-online.de
<mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> > wrote:
  Michael,
  I do not mind and I am fully with you. I even do not mind if one puts his
  car in the dining room or fills it with water or throws it down a bridge.
  Its his/her car and everybody can do with belongings what they want as
  long others are not hurt.or their belongings are not damaged with.
  But I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind cannot
  follow.
   
  Josef eckert
  K?nigswinter/Germany
   
   
   
  -----Original-Nachricht-----
  Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
  Datum: 2024-02-11T17:09:02+0100
  Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt at gmail.com
  <mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com> >
  An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> " <
  josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> >
   
   
   
  Joseph--
   
  As the famous Wellerism goes ''Every one to his own taste,' said the old
  woman as she kissed the cow".
   
  Best--Michael Oritt
   

  On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:30?AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
  healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:
    What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey
    to V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an
    Austin-Healey as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i
    would buy a Jaguar XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our
    holiday car which is a Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great
    and in many ways superiour to the Austion-Healey, especially when it
    comes to the heavy traffic on European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do
    not go on any  motorway here in Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys.
    Its just painful.
     
    Josef Eckert
    K?nigswinter/Germany
     
     
     
    -----Original-Nachricht-----
    Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
    Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100
    Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net
    <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
    An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >
     
     
     
    I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric
    conversion.  
     
    An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.  

    Sent from my iPhone
    Chris Scholz OD


        On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com
        <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > wrote:


        Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you
        say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent
        for concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys,
        Healey boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? ?
         
        Rick

        On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
        healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:
          The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an
          electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors
          off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a
          Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many
          owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips
          are, unfortunately, in the past).

          I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements,
          so I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens)
          un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my
          survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I
          could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front),
          electric throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels
          with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda
          suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s
          (supposedly; I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker).
          Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a
          narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights it's sayonara.
          The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are
          simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.

          Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want
          with it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix
          Ignitors in both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas
          Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will,
          understand why people buy a car they don't actually want just to
          change it (owners with broken/missing engines who think 'Why
          not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you
          want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care
          for breast implants either; just not the same.

          * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've
          yet to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't
          mean it hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with
          SBCs, LSes, etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly
          unique or imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).




          On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:

              I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual
              passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a
              parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees. 
              Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a
              bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely
              fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric
              radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering
              shaft and u joint.  Works great.  
              Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife
              limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire
              wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring
              perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by
              2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6
              so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value
              went up.   
              I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so
              much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I
              would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an
              aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would
              have worked with him.  
               
              Sent from my iPhone
              Chris Scholz OD


                  On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick 
                  <healeyrik at gmail.com> <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> 
                  wrote:


                  A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not
                  as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part,
                  mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts
                  and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor
                  will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the
                  other stuff you need to do that will really add the work.
                  New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel
                  system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in
                  the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock
                  off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You
                  can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5
                  speed transmission into my BJ7 here: 
                  <http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264>   The Ford
                  5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to
                  do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely
                  to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with
                  your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did
                  about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine
                  rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run
                  the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke
                  wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will
                  start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but
                  if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris
                  did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to
                  how much work it was.
                   
                  My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed"
                  would be to try a replacement Healey 6.
                   
                  Best of Luck,
                  Rick

                  On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com
                  <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

                    Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just
                    made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans. 
                    My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did
                    you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you
                    use?  All options are on the table.

                     

                    Bob

                     

                    From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com
                    <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >
                    Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
                    To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>
                    Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
                    <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
                    Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

                     

                    Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far
                    seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in
                    a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a
                    rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
                    choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps
                    from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club
                    charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and
                    Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out
                    there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons,
                    David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding
                    somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

                     

                    Best of luck,

                    Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

                     

                    On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com
                    <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

                     Gentlemen:

                      

                     I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive
                     my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard
                     clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O!
                     Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it
                     back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and
                     started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.
                      My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may
                     only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed
                     and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and
                     bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual
                     plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic
                     bag which was put under the workbench near the
                     garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could
                     pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
                     to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he
                     would have everything in one place.  I looked around
                     but could not find this black plastic bag and then
                     remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
                     up the famous creek and am asking this group what I
                     can do?

                      

                        1. I am told the engine is finished because the
                           Main Bearing caps are not available and even if
                           you could find them, they would need to be line
                           bored on the engine.
                        2. I am told that finding an engine block for a
                           3000 with original main bearing caps is almost
                           impossible.
                        3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be
                           possible.

                      

                     My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago
                     everything new, so I would like to find a way of
                     fixing the existing engine, if possible.

                      

                     Please give me your advice.

                      

                     Best regards,

                      

                     Bob Begani

                     67 Austin-Healey BJ8

                      

                      

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From drtommitch at gmail.com  Sun Feb 11 10:41:58 2024
From: drtommitch at gmail.com (Tom Mitchell)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:41:58 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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I drive my Healey a lot and on very  long drives.

In my case I did the Toyota transmission (instead of repairing the existing
transmission) so my wife, two sons, grandkids and others could drive the
car without me cringing everytime they shifted. ?

In the future, if someone wants to, they can reinstall the old tranny,
assuming they rebuild it and fix the overdrive.

Tom Mitchell
Ann Arbor, MI
1965 BJ8


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, 11:32?AM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Joseph--
>
> You said:  "I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind
> cannot follow."
>
> That's a different problem as what makes sense to one of us may not make
> sense to another.
>
> In my case I replaced my BN1's original three-speed transmission with a
> Smitty's five-speed conversion and W58 transmission because:
>
> 1.  I had driven to California--about 3,000 miles from my home in
> Maryland--when the second gear cluster broke and
> 2.  I wanted to complete the trip driving the car rather than having it
> shipped home, still broken, and
> 2.  I was about 100 miles from Smitty's shop in Thousand Oaks CA and he
> had both a rebuilt W58 and a conversion kit on hand, and
> 4.  Even assuming I could have found a replacement cluster and a facility
> that could have installed it in a reasonable amount of time, etc., the
> original transmission was a POS in the first place, as was the manual
> clutch which I also replaced with an hydraulic clutch (later upgraded to a
> BJ8 diaphragm unit)
>
> So, my decision was easy for me to make and after a couple of days working
> at Smitty's shop and an outlay of a reasonable sum of money I was able to
> drive back to MD.  Beyond that I feel that what I gave up in originality I
> have more than gotten back in driveability.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 11:23?AM josef-eckert at t-online.de <
> josef-eckert at t-online.de> wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> I do not mind and I am fully with you. I even do not mind if one puts his
>> car in the dining room or fills it with water or throws it down a bridge.
>> Its his/her car and everybody can do with belongings what they want as long
>> others are not hurt.or their belongings are not damaged with.
>>
>> But I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind cannot
>> follow.
>>
>>
>>
>> Josef eckert
>>
>> K?nigswinter/Germany
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>>
>> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>
>> Datum: 2024-02-11T17:09:02+0100
>>
>> Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
>>
>> An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Joseph--
>>
>> As the famous Wellerism goes *''Every one to his own taste,' said the
>> old woman as she kissed the cow".*
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:30?AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to
>>> V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey
>>> as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar
>>> XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a
>>> Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to
>>> the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on
>>> European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any  motorway here in
>>> Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josef Eckert
>>>
>>> K?nigswinter/Germany
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>>>
>>> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>>
>>> Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100
>>>
>>> Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>>
>>> An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric
>>> conversion.
>>>
>>> An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Chris Scholz OD
>>>
>>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say,
>>> to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours,
>>> modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc.
>>> Can't we all just get along? ?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric
>>>> motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or
>>>> Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much
>>>> past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips
>>>> anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past).
>>>>
>>>> I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I
>>>> bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated,
>>>> and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to
>>>> sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all
>>>> around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes),
>>>> 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda
>>>> suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly;
>>>> I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon
>>>> a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and
>>>> straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the
>>>> Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.
>>>>
>>>> Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it"
>>>> person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller
>>>> rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but
>>>> I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't
>>>> actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who
>>>> think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way
>>>> you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for
>>>> breast implants either; just not the same.
>>>>
>>>> * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to
>>>> see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't
>>>> happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a
>>>> dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have
>>>> garish paint jobs though).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage
>>>> Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index
>>>> and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to
>>>> fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything
>>>> barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
>>>> fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works
>>>> great.
>>>> Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip
>>>> diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.
>>>>   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up
>>>> in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6
>>>> so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
>>>> I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to
>>>> slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the
>>>> heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s
>>>> first choice if GM would have worked with him.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> Chris Scholz OD
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>>>> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
>>>> "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine
>>>> and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the
>>>> motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff
>>>> you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
>>>> radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc.
>>>> It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock
>>>> off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I
>>>> had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
>>>> http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower
>>>> than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS
>>>> motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and
>>>> with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75%
>>>> of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My
>>>> car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72
>>>> spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start
>>>> braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it
>>>> will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but
>>>> he can speak to how much work it was.
>>>>
>>>> My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try
>>>> a replacement Healey 6.
>>>>
>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that
>>>>> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM
>>>>> mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc.
>>>>> did you use?  All options are on the table.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
>>>>> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
>>>>> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
>>>>> Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find
>>>>> a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
>>>>> choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few
>>>>> years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the
>>>>> club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there
>>>>> might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have
>>>>> one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best of luck,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Gentlemen:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
>>>>> Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the
>>>>> oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it
>>>>> back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod
>>>>> and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the
>>>>> crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked
>>>>> each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods
>>>>> and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic
>>>>> bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car
>>>>> to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he
>>>>> asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
>>>>> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
>>>>> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
>>>>> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps
>>>>>    are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be
>>>>>    line bored on the engine.
>>>>>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>>>>>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>>>>>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I
>>>>> would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please give me your advice.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Begani
>>>>>
>>>>> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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From: healeyguy at aol.com (Perry Small)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 14:59:36 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey V8
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Sent from my iPhone
Listers
We have had several v8 Healeys over the years. Some more fun than others but several became a v8 car because the stock parts were not available. Even returned a couple cars back to stock drivetrains before selling.
Still have a 1954 100 with a Chevy z28 350, 4 speed and Ford 9 inch posi rear end in the garage and a fully restored 55 BN2. Both are fun in their own way
As I get older and the reality of having to clear the garage of my toys becomes a more frequent topic of discussion. The second thoughts about stock or modified fade away.
Have fun while you can
Perry

From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 11 14:05:35 2024
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 13:05:35 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Austin Healey V8
In-Reply-To: <FC37CC00-B90B-4B64-A158-816B25A99F0F@aol.com>
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Agreed .
I keep wondering how long I'll drive my car, but the idea of being an ex
owner is unbearable to consider.

Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, 12:35?PM Perry Small via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Listers
> We have had several v8 Healeys over the years. Some more fun than others
> but several became a v8 car because the stock parts were not available.
> Even returned a couple cars back to stock drivetrains before selling.
> Still have a 1954 100 with a Chevy z28 350, 4 speed and Ford 9 inch posi
> rear end in the garage and a fully restored 55 BN2. Both are fun in their
> own way
> As I get older and the reality of having to clear the garage of my toys
> becomes a more frequent topic of discussion. The second thoughts about
> stock or modified fade away.
> Have fun while you can
> Perry
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 11 14:23:02 2024
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 13:23:02 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Electric motor in a Healey
Message-ID: <229AC69C-AA04-4C01-BBB2-19910F4F4A91@gmail.com>

Did you read that glowing marketing pitch about electrifying your Healey on that website ?  

And I quote:   ?Retain the classic driving experience?. ?Classic charm?.  ?Memorable and enjoyable driving experience?.  "Joy to drive?.

So no more bother with a clutch pedal and up shifts and down shifts, no more irritating Healey exhaust note, no more scary quick cornering  because your new and improved Healey is now 200 to 400 pounds heavier?  And with all that additional weight (many batteries) I?m sure it will do better in crash tests, right?

Wow!  Sure sounds like that ?classic driving experience? is what I have been missing with my ordinary Healey.  I?m in!  Where do I sign up?


Richard Mayor
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 11 15:13:24 2024
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (Richard Mayor)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 14:13:24 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Healey trivia
Message-ID: <64BEF4F3-5ED7-43C2-AC9C-92E53E4D53D6@gmail.com>

October, 1996.  An Austin Healey BJ8 joins the cast of TVs ?Home Improvement?.  Jill inherits $12,000 which has the proviso that it must be spent on something frivolous.  Against Tim?s wishes she purchased the Healey.  By the end of the segment, Tim had hot-wired the car and discovered the joys of British motoring. 

Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



From ahbn6 at verizon.net  Sun Feb 11 16:52:32 2024
From: ahbn6 at verizon.net (John Sims)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 23:52:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healey trivia
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I remember reading that in real life Tim Allen had a Healey for personal use. He was a noted car collector.?


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Sunday, February 11, 2024, 6:48 PM, Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:

October, 1996.? An Austin Healey BJ8 joins the cast of TVs ?Home Improvement?.? Jill inherits $12,000 which has the proviso that it must be spent on something frivolous.? Against Tim?s wishes she purchased the Healey.? By the end of the segment, Tim had hot-wired the car and discovered the joys of British motoring. 

Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com


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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Sun Feb 11 18:30:39 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 20:30:39 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Electric motor in a Healey
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I'm sure that one of the options would be a series of speakers that
generate sounds consistent with up-and-downshifting of gears and
increases/decreases of speed.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 6:07?PM richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Did you read that glowing marketing pitch about electrifying your Healey
> on that website ?
>
> And I quote:   ?Retain the classic driving experience?. ?Classic charm?.
>  ?Memorable and enjoyable driving experience?.  "Joy to drive?.
>
> So no more bother with a clutch pedal and up shifts and down shifts, no
> more irritating Healey exhaust note, no more scary quick cornering  because
> your new and improved Healey is now 200 to 400 pounds heavier?  And with
> all that additional weight (many batteries) I?m sure it will do better in
> crash tests, right?
>
> Wow!  Sure sounds like that ?classic driving experience? is what I have
> been missing with my ordinary Healey.  I?m in!  Where do I sign up?
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
>
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 11 18:57:23 2024
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (Richard Mayor)
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2024 17:57:23 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Electric motor in a Healey
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I saw a show on cable awhile back.   Not one I usually watch so I don?t recall the name. Something about trucks.  They installed a speaker system that replicates engine exhaust sounds and is calibrated to change with car speed.  You can choose from number of different engine sounds. 
 
Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com


> On Feb 11, 2024, at 5:30 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm sure that one of the options would be a series of speakers that generate sounds consistent with up-and-downshifting of gears and increases/decreases of speed.
> 
> Best--Michael Oritt
> 
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 6:07?PM richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Did you read that glowing marketing pitch about electrifying your Healey on that website ?  
> 
> And I quote:   ?Retain the classic driving experience?. ?Classic charm?.  ?Memorable and enjoyable driving experience?.  "Joy to drive?.
> 
> So no more bother with a clutch pedal and up shifts and down shifts, no more irritating Healey exhaust note, no more scary quick cornering  because your new and improved Healey is now 200 to 400 pounds heavier?  And with all that additional weight (many batteries) I?m sure it will do better in crash tests, right?
> 
> Wow!  Sure sounds like that ?classic driving experience? is what I have been missing with my ordinary Healey.  I?m in!  Where do I sign up?
> 
> 
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com <mailto:boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
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From ryan at jimryan.com  Mon Feb 12 06:18:03 2024
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 08:18:03 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Electric motor in a Healey
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References: <229AC69C-AA04-4C01-BBB2-19910F4F4A91@gmail.com>
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In this movie the 2 main characters had a company that did exactly what
Michael suggested.  The Dilemma
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1578275/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk>

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:13?PM Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I saw a show on cable awhile back.   Not one I usually watch so I don?t
> recall the name. Something about trucks.  They installed a speaker system
> that replicates engine exhaust sounds and is calibrated to change with car
> speed.  You can choose from number of different engine sounds.
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
> On Feb 11, 2024, at 5:30 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm sure that one of the options would be a series of speakers that
> generate sounds consistent with up-and-downshifting of gears and
> increases/decreases of speed.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 6:07?PM richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Did you read that glowing marketing pitch about electrifying your Healey
>> on that website ?
>>
>> And I quote:   ?Retain the classic driving experience?. ?Classic charm?.
>>  ?Memorable and enjoyable driving experience?.  "Joy to drive?.
>>
>> So no more bother with a clutch pedal and up shifts and down shifts, no
>> more irritating Healey exhaust note, no more scary quick cornering  because
>> your new and improved Healey is now 200 to 400 pounds heavier?  And with
>> all that additional weight (many batteries) I?m sure it will do better in
>> crash tests, right?
>>
>> Wow!  Sure sounds like that ?classic driving experience? is what I have
>> been missing with my ordinary Healey.  I?m in!  Where do I sign up?
>>
>>
>> Richard Mayor
>> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Mon Feb 12 06:45:44 2024
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 08:45:44 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Electric motor in a Healey
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References: <229AC69C-AA04-4C01-BBB2-19910F4F4A91@gmail.com>
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Maybe Borla could program a Healey six exhaust note into their electric
system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1BDH2cuTwo

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:32?PM Richard Mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I saw a show on cable awhile back.   Not one I usually watch so I don?t
> recall the name. Something about trucks.  They installed a speaker system
> that replicates engine exhaust sounds and is calibrated to change with car
> speed.  You can choose from number of different engine sounds.
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
> On Feb 11, 2024, at 5:30 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm sure that one of the options would be a series of speakers that
> generate sounds consistent with up-and-downshifting of gears and
> increases/decreases of speed.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 6:07?PM richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Did you read that glowing marketing pitch about electrifying your Healey
>> on that website ?
>>
>> And I quote:   ?Retain the classic driving experience?. ?Classic charm?.
>>  ?Memorable and enjoyable driving experience?.  "Joy to drive?.
>>
>> So no more bother with a clutch pedal and up shifts and down shifts, no
>> more irritating Healey exhaust note, no more scary quick cornering  because
>> your new and improved Healey is now 200 to 400 pounds heavier?  And with
>> all that additional weight (many batteries) I?m sure it will do better in
>> crash tests, right?
>>
>> Wow!  Sure sounds like that ?classic driving experience? is what I have
>> been missing with my ordinary Healey.  I?m in!  Where do I sign up?
>>
>>
>> Richard Mayor
>> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 12 12:14:20 2024
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 11:14:20 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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So very, very sorry to hear this. Line bore replacement caps is your only
choice.


Ira Erbs
Milwaukie, OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6


On Fri, Feb 9, 2024, 8:03?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 12 19:22:15 2024
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 18:22:15 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure-swap in an LS1
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Message-ID: <202c01da5e23$7636f370$62a4da50$@gmail.com>

Whatever happened to the Nasty Boys Newsletter? It seems to have died a slow death?

 

I had posted it on my website for some time, but now I think about it, there has been no new content for some time!  

 

Maybe time for someone to pick up the mantle and generate some content.

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Scholz via Healeys
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 3:41 PM
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure-swap in an LS1

 

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1959 100-6.  All stock except LS1 and transmission.  200lbs lighter.  Mechanically, one of my most reliable cars I own.  350hp with 2000lbs.  30mpg.  Added the Healey front discs.  

 

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Sent from my iPhone 

Chris Scholz OD





On Feb 9, 2024, at 5:32?PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net> > wrote:

? Sounds like you should've bought a C5 'Vette instead of an Austin-Healey in the first place.



On 2/9/2024 9:08 AM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:

I had a similar incident.  I swapped in an aluminum LS1 with an GM transmission.  My car is 200lbs lighter and so much more fun to drive.  My reliability is excellent.  

Sent from my iPhone 

Chris Scholz OD





On Feb 9, 2024, at 10:13?AM, rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>  wrote:

? 

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

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Has anyone here put the Rove V-8 in a Healey? I think I heard that was a nice balance between weight savings, increased power and level of difficulty.

 

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All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Scholz via Healeys
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 10:26 PM
To: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works great.   

Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.   

I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.  

 

Sent from my iPhone 

Chris Scholz OD





On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > wrote:

? 

A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was. 

 

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.

 

Best of Luck,

Rick

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

 

Bob

 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

 

Best of luck,

Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

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And Hank ? don?t forget about the smell!!

 

Our local car club had a drive of about three (3) hours on Saturday, and I happened to be at the back of the pack. While it did take a couple of days to clear out my nose, I was back in the garage today tuning up and working out a fuel delivery on a car that has sat for a few years ? and got another dose of exhaust blowing back into the garage!! ?

 

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All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Hank Leach via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:18 AM
To: Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>; HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>; josef-eckert at t-online.de
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

There are plenty of electric vehicles available today and many more tomorrow...most folks bought Healeys for their looks and their sound.

Would you pull out of the garage to listen to it hummmmmmmmmmmmmm? Hank


-------------------- 

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Sent: February 11, 2024 at 7:22 AM PST 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure 

What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any  motorway here in Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.

 

Josef Eckert

K?nigswinter/Germany

 

 

 

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Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >

 

 

 

I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric conversion.   

 

An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.  

 

Sent from my iPhone 

Chris Scholz OD

 

On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > wrote:

Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? ? 

 

Rick

 

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past). 

I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.

Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for breast implants either; just not the same.

* Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).





On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:

I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works great.   

Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.   

I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.  

 

Sent from my iPhone 

Chris Scholz OD

 

On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick  <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was. 

 

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.

 

Best of Luck,

Rick

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

 

Bob

 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

 

Best of luck,

Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

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Yup, after seeing Tom?s car I did the same when the overdrive failed on my BT-7. When I bought my BJ-8, I put the 5-speed in right off, and have put thousands of miles on it with nary a worry ? including the month in Scandinavia this past summer for the European Healey Meet.

 

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All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Tom Mitchell
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:42 AM
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

I drive my Healey a lot and on very  long drives.

 

In my case I did the Toyota transmission (instead of repairing the existing transmission) so my wife, two sons, grandkids and others could drive the car without me cringing everytime they shifted. ?

 

In the future, if someone wants to, they can reinstall the old tranny, assuming they rebuild it and fix the overdrive.

 

Tom Mitchell

Ann Arbor, MI

1965 BJ8

 

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, 11:32?AM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com <mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com> > wrote:

Joseph--

 

You said:  "I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind cannot follow."

 

That's a different problem as what makes sense to one of us may not make sense to another.

 

In my case I replaced my BN1's original three-speed transmission with a Smitty's five-speed conversion and W58 transmission because:

 

1.  I had driven to California--about 3,000 miles from my home in Maryland--when the second gear cluster broke and 

2.  I wanted to complete the trip driving the car rather than having it shipped home, still broken, and

2.  I was about 100 miles from Smitty's shop in Thousand Oaks CA and he had both a rebuilt W58 and a conversion kit on hand, and

4.  Even assuming I could have found a replacement cluster and a facility that could have installed it in a reasonable amount of time, etc., the original transmission was a POS in the first place, as was the manual clutch which I also replaced with an hydraulic clutch (later upgraded to a BJ8 diaphragm unit)

 

So, my decision was easy for me to make and after a couple of days working at Smitty's shop and an outlay of a reasonable sum of money I was able to drive back to MD.  Beyond that I feel that what I gave up in originality I have more than gotten back in driveability.

 

Best--Michael Oritt

 

 

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 11:23?AM josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de>  <josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> > wrote:

Michael,

I do not mind and I am fully with you. I even do not mind if one puts his car in the dining room or fills it with water or throws it down a bridge. Its his/her car and everybody can do with belongings what they want as long others are not hurt.or their belongings are not damaged with. 

But I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind cannot follow.

 

Josef eckert

K?nigswinter/Germany

 

 

 

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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Datum: 2024-02-11T17:09:02+0100

Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt at gmail.com <mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com> >

An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> " <josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> >

 

 

 

Joseph--

 

As the famous Wellerism goes ''Every one to his own taste,' said the old woman as she kissed the cow".

 

Best--Michael Oritt

 

 

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:30?AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any  motorway here in Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.

 

Josef Eckert

K?nigswinter/Germany

 

 

 

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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100

Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >

 

 

 

I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric conversion.   

 

An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.  

 

Sent from my iPhone 

Chris Scholz OD

 

On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > wrote:

Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? ? 

 

Rick

 

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past). 

I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.

Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for breast implants either; just not the same.

* Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).





On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:

I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works great.   

Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.   

I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.  

 

Sent from my iPhone 

Chris Scholz OD

 

On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick  <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was. 

 

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.

 

Best of Luck,

Rick

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

 

Bob

 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

 

Best of luck,

Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

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From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 22:49:50 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure-swap in an LS1
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Rick may already have mentioned it but the "British V-8" site has some
great articles featuring a number of V-8 (and one V-12) Healeys with lots
of great info and pics on many of the builds.  Much to admire whether or
not you are a fan.

Best--Michael Oritt


On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 10:18?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Whatever happened to the Nasty Boys Newsletter? It seems to have died a
> slow death?
>
>
>
> I had posted it on my website for some time, but now I think about it,
> there has been no new content for some time!
>
>
>
> Maybe time for someone to pick up the mantle and generate some content.
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Scholz via Healeys
> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 3:41 PM
> *To:* Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure-swap in an LS1
>
>
>
> 1959 100-6.  All stock except LS1 and transmission.  200lbs lighter.
> Mechanically, one of my most reliable cars I own.  350hp with 2000lbs.
>  30mpg.  Added the Healey front discs.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: IMG_0889]
>
>
>
> [image: IMG_0967]
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Chris Scholz OD
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2024, at 5:32?PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> ? Sounds like you should've bought a C5 'Vette instead of an Austin-Healey
> in the first place.
>
> On 2/9/2024 9:08 AM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
>
> I had a similar incident.  I swapped in an aluminum LS1 with an GM
> transmission.  My car is 200lbs lighter and so much more fun to drive.  My
> reliability is excellent.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Chris Scholz OD
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2024, at 10:13?AM, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>
> ?
>
> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
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From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller)
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 19:57:13 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure-swap in an LS1
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Good point!

________________
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 7:50 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Rick may already have mentioned it but the "British V-8" site has some
> great articles featuring a number of V-8 (and one V-12) Healeys with lots
> of great info and pics on many of the builds.  Much to admire whether or
> not you are a fan.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 10:18?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Whatever happened to the Nasty Boys Newsletter? It seems to have died a
>> slow death?
>>
>>
>>
>> I had posted it on my website for some time, but now I think about it,
>> there has been no new content for some time!
>>
>>
>>
>> Maybe time for someone to pick up the mantle and generate some content.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Al Fuller
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Chris
>> Scholz via Healeys
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 3:41 PM
>> *To:* Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
>> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure-swap in an LS1
>>
>>
>>
>> 1959 100-6.  All stock except LS1 and transmission.  200lbs lighter.
>> Mechanically, one of my most reliable cars I own.  350hp with 2000lbs.
>>  30mpg.  Added the Healey front discs.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_0889]
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_0967]
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Chris Scholz OD
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 5:32?PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> ? Sounds like you should've bought a C5 'Vette instead of an
>> Austin-Healey in the first place.
>>
>> On 2/9/2024 9:08 AM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> I had a similar incident.  I swapped in an aluminum LS1 with an GM
>> transmission.  My car is 200lbs lighter and so much more fun to drive.  My
>> reliability is excellent.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Chris Scholz OD
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2024, at 10:13?AM, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Gentlemen:
>>
>>
>>
>> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67
>> Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the
>> oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it
>> back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod
>> and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the
>> crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked
>> each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods
>> and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic
>> bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car
>> to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he
>> asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
>> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
>> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
>> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>>    bored on the engine.
>>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I
>> would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please give me your advice.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Begani
>>
>> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From drscholz at visioncenterpc.com  Tue Feb 13 05:18:58 2024
From: drscholz at visioncenterpc.com (Chris Scholz)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 12:18:58 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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Great weight savings on the 5 speed.
I agree with restoring your car how you plan to drive it.

Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD

On Feb 12, 2024, at 10:54?PM, alfuller194 at gmail.com wrote:

?
Yup, after seeing Tom?s car I did the same when the overdrive failed on my BT-7. When I bought my BJ-8, I put the 5-speed in right off, and have put thousands of miles on it with nary a worry ? including the month in Scandinavia this past summer for the European Healey Meet.

-----------------------------------
All the best,

Al Fuller

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Tom Mitchell
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:42 AM
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

I drive my Healey a lot and on very  long drives.

In my case I did the Toyota transmission (instead of repairing the existing transmission) so my wife, two sons, grandkids and others could drive the car without me cringing everytime they shifted. ?

In the future, if someone wants to, they can reinstall the old tranny, assuming they rebuild it and fix the overdrive.

Tom Mitchell
Ann Arbor, MI
1965 BJ8

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024, 11:32?AM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com<mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com>> wrote:
Joseph--

You said:  "I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind cannot follow."

That's a different problem as what makes sense to one of us may not make sense to another.

In my case I replaced my BN1's original three-speed transmission with a Smitty's five-speed conversion and W58 transmission because:

1.  I had driven to California--about 3,000 miles from my home in Maryland--when the second gear cluster broke and
2.  I wanted to complete the trip driving the car rather than having it shipped home, still broken, and
2.  I was about 100 miles from Smitty's shop in Thousand Oaks CA and he had both a rebuilt W58 and a conversion kit on hand, and
4.  Even assuming I could have found a replacement cluster and a facility that could have installed it in a reasonable amount of time, etc., the original transmission was a POS in the first place, as was the manual clutch which I also replaced with an hydraulic clutch (later upgraded to a BJ8 diaphragm unit)

So, my decision was easy for me to make and after a couple of days working at Smitty's shop and an outlay of a reasonable sum of money I was able to drive back to MD.  Beyond that I feel that what I gave up in originality I have more than gotten back in driveability.

Best--Michael Oritt


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 11:23?AM josef-eckert at t-online.de<mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> <josef-eckert at t-online.de<mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de>> wrote:

Michael,

I do not mind and I am fully with you. I even do not mind if one puts his car in the dining room or fills it with water or throws it down a bridge. Its his/her car and everybody can do with belongings what they want as long others are not hurt.or their belongings are not damaged with.

But I usually try to understand why others do such things my mind cannot follow.



Josef eckert

K?nigswinter/Germany







-----Original-Nachricht-----

Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Datum: 2024-02-11T17:09:02+0100

Von: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt at gmail.com<mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com>>

An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de<mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de>" <josef-eckert at t-online.de<mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de>>






Joseph--

As the famous Wellerism goes ''Every one to his own taste,' said the old woman as she kissed the cow".

Best--Michael Oritt


On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:30?AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:

What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any  motorway here in Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.



Josef Eckert

K?nigswinter/Germany







-----Original-Nachricht-----

Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100

Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>

An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com<mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com>>






I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric conversion.

An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.

Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD

On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com<mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com>> wrote:
Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? ?

Rick

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past).

I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.

Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for breast implants either; just not the same.

* Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).



On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works great.
Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.

Sent from my iPhone
Chris Scholz OD

On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com><mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was.

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.

Best of Luck,
Rick

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>> wrote:
Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

Bob

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com<mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com>>
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

Best of luck,
Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com<mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com>> wrote:
Gentlemen:

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?


  1.  I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
  2.  I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
  3.  Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

Please give me your advice.

Best regards,

Bob Begani
67 Austin-Healey BJ8


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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Tue Feb 13 07:22:27 2024
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:22:27 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure-swap in an LS1
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I think the "Wheelspinner", the Nasty Boy newsletter is no more.  As
Michael pointed out there is still some good info on the British V8
website, but that seems to be slowing down as well.  The most Nasty Boy
activity seems to be on Facebook at V8 Austin Healeys:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1676792712584008 and Race and Modified
Healeys https://www.facebook.com/groups/1297917743555966 but FB really
isn't a place for in-depth articles.

As far as the Buick/Rover engine in a Healey goes, doesn't seem that
popular in the US. Where Chevy and Ford V8s are plentiful, you just get
more bang for your buck with less reliability issues than the BuRov.  It
does seem to be a very popular swap with MGB folks as the later rubber
bumper  cars were built for it and even the early cars don't take a huge
amount to do the swap.

Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 10:18?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Whatever happened to the Nasty Boys Newsletter? It seems to have died a
> slow death?
>
>
>
> I had posted it on my website for some time, but now I think about it,
> there has been no new content for some time!
>
>
>
> Maybe time for someone to pick up the mantle and generate some content.
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Scholz via Healeys
> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 3:41 PM
> *To:* Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure-swap in an LS1
>
>
>
> 1959 100-6.  All stock except LS1 and transmission.  200lbs lighter.
> Mechanically, one of my most reliable cars I own.  350hp with 2000lbs.
>  30mpg.  Added the Healey front discs.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: IMG_0889]
>
>
>
> [image: IMG_0967]
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Chris Scholz OD
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2024, at 5:32?PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> ? Sounds like you should've bought a C5 'Vette instead of an Austin-Healey
> in the first place.
>
> On 2/9/2024 9:08 AM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
>
> I had a similar incident.  I swapped in an aluminum LS1 with an GM
> transmission.  My car is 200lbs lighter and so much more fun to drive.  My
> reliability is excellent.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Chris Scholz OD
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2024, at 10:13?AM, rfbegani at gmail.com wrote:
>
> ?
>
> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Tue Feb 13 07:31:09 2024
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 09:31:09 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey
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The Rover V8 is basically the 215 ci Buick aluminum engine that Rover later
bought the rights to.  It really doesn't put out enough power in stock form
for the heavy big Healey but is much better suited to a Sprite.  For me,
who loves these old Healey drag cars this was a very fun read from Facebook:

[image: 427027841_2893378360801157_2524321546069948917_n.jpg]

"
David Van Weele
<https://www.facebook.com/groups/537339426646017/user/100003870632662/?__cft__[0]=AZWofg1JW_qoTFNaekfgzlfLMwzVzLqu2wI3BPYAm5GVe-YFXAuSRqP_yjTd99qJfM8wJFdUrLwJ7pwYyCWQJBg3GObGDeA2FIBE1HNq6ZjBmYbjH9OT1TQsfFw8dHjA-f1iYRZBx2Ldxhk0UT2Xxvy-T5zi6mT6FBzhmhobeTqAxgFNippsVoX2UK7OWtj7cwSIuVScQgIN7pa0_h6myehDk9ZkMZG9Hxlh4cGIEVLUrg&__tn__=-UC*F>
rsdeSontpo 62t0My:11liamam1g3t 5P0 0cu9t 1u7F0brm1g2g1hgf0re
<https://www.facebook.com/groups/537339426646017/posts/2005694813143797/?__cft__[0]=AZWofg1JW_qoTFNaekfgzlfLMwzVzLqu2wI3BPYAm5GVe-YFXAuSRqP_yjTd99qJfM8wJFdUrLwJ7pwYyCWQJBg3GObGDeA2FIBE1HNq6ZjBmYbjH9OT1TQsfFw8dHjA-f1iYRZBx2Ldxhk0UT2Xxvy-T5zi6mT6FBzhmhobeTqAxgFNippsVoX2UK7OWtj7cwSIuVScQgIN7pa0_h6myehDk9ZkMZG9Hxlh4cGIEVLUrg&__tn__=%2CO*F>
  ?
This is a picture of my brother driving my car back in 1969 at Morosso in
Palm Beach, Fl. I purchased the car new in 1960 a dealer in Bayport NY. I
street drove the car until 1963 when I purchased a new 1963 Corvette Z06. I
had an accident in 1962 that destroyed the bug eye lights so I purchased a
Peasmarsh fiber glass bonnet. It looked like an XKE Jag with the headlights
under plexiglass covers. With the Z06 to drive on the street my brother and
I installed a Buick 215 CI aluminum engine. We built the engine with
Hilborn fuel injection, Isky cam and kit, 13:1 Forge True pistons, Mickey
Thompson Alum rods, Thomas magnesium rocker arms, Vertex Magneto, T-10
transmission, 57 Chevy rear end shortened to fit under the body and used
M&H slicks on widened Corvette wheels. With the hood surround we ran B
Modified Sport and If we removed the surround we ran C Altered. It ran very
well, the cam and set up produced max HP at 10,500 RPM so the straight
exhaust had the sound of any Indy car. This is what happens when a H
Production car grows up."



Se
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 9:25?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Has anyone here put the Rove V-8 in a Healey? I think I heard that was a
> nice balance between weight savings, increased power and level of
> difficulty.
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Scholz via Healeys
> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 10:26 PM
> *To:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
>
>
> I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard
> radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and
> car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to
> fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything
> barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
> fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works
> great.
>
> Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip
> diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.
>   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up
> in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6
> so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
>
> I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to
> slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the
> heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s
> first choice if GM would have worked with him.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Chris Scholz OD
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
> "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine
> and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the
> motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff
> you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
> radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc.
> It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock
> off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I
> had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
> http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower
> than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS
> motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and
> with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75%
> of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My
> car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72
> spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start
> braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it
> will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but
> he can speak to how much work it was.
>
>
>
> My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a
> replacement Healey 6.
>
>
>
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that
> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM
> mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc.
> did you use?  All options are on the table.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
>
>
> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
> Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find
> a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
> choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few
> years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the
> club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there
> might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have
> one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
>
>
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
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From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz  Tue Feb 13 13:54:36 2024
From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 09:54:36 +1300
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey
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The Rover V8 ? Buick Riviera engine is actually lighter than the stock 100 engine.  I think it was 180 bhp.

One of our Auckland members fitted one to his BN1 ? which had a tired engine ? back in 1976.  It did a great job.

Officially clocked at 145 mph on a clear long straight in South Auckland.

The car now has a larger (Chev) engine fed by a Holley Quadrajet.  Even livelier.

 

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 

Here it is last Sunday



 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2024 3:31 AM
To: Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com>
Cc: Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

 

The Rover V8 is basically the 215 ci Buick aluminum engine that Rover later bought the rights to.  It really doesn't put out enough power in stock form for the heavy big Healey but is much better suited to a Sprite.  For me, who loves these old Healey drag cars this was a very fun read from Facebook:

 



 

"


 <https://www.facebook.com/groups/537339426646017/user/100003870632662/?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZWofg1JW_qoTFNaekfgzlfLMwzVzLqu2wI3BPYAm5GVe-YFXAuSRqP_yjTd99qJfM8wJFdUrLwJ7pwYyCWQJBg3GObGDeA2FIBE1HNq6ZjBmYbjH9OT1TQsfFw8dHjA-f1iYRZBx2Ldxhk0UT2Xxvy-T5zi6mT6FBzhmhobeTqAxgFNippsVoX2UK7OWtj7cwSIuVScQgIN7pa0_h6myehDk9ZkMZG9Hxlh4cGIEVLUrg&__tn__=-UC*F> David Van Weele


 <https://www.facebook.com/groups/537339426646017/posts/2005694813143797/?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZWofg1JW_qoTFNaekfgzlfLMwzVzLqu2wI3BPYAm5GVe-YFXAuSRqP_yjTd99qJfM8wJFdUrLwJ7pwYyCWQJBg3GObGDeA2FIBE1HNq6ZjBmYbjH9OT1TQsfFw8dHjA-f1iYRZBx2Ldxhk0UT2Xxvy-T5zi6mT6FBzhmhobeTqAxgFNippsVoX2UK7OWtj7cwSIuVScQgIN7pa0_h6myehDk9ZkMZG9Hxlh4cGIEVLUrg&__tn__=%2CO*F> rsdeSontpo 62t0My:11liamam1g3t 5P0 0cu9t 1u7F0brm1g2g1hgf0re  ? 

This is a picture of my brother driving my car back in 1969 at Morosso in Palm Beach, Fl. I purchased the car new in 1960 a dealer in Bayport NY. I street drove the car until 1963 when I purchased a new 1963 Corvette Z06. I had an accident in 1962 that destroyed the bug eye lights so I purchased a Peasmarsh fiber glass bonnet. It looked like an XKE Jag with the headlights under plexiglass covers. With the Z06 to drive on the street my brother and I installed a Buick 215 CI aluminum engine. We built the engine with Hilborn fuel injection, Isky cam and kit, 13:1 Forge True pistons, Mickey Thompson Alum rods, Thomas magnesium rocker arms, Vertex Magneto, T-10 transmission, 57 Chevy rear end shortened to fit under the body and used M&H slicks on widened Corvette wheels. With the hood surround we ran B Modified Sport and If we removed the surround we ran C Altered. It ran very well, the cam and set up produced max HP at 10,500 RPM so the straight exhaust had the sound of any Indy car. This is what happens when a H Production car grows up."

 

 

Se

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 9:25?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Has anyone here put the Rove V-8 in a Healey? I think I heard that was a nice balance between weight savings, increased power and level of difficulty.

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All the best,

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From gradea1 at charter.net  Tue Feb 13 19:25:55 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 02:25:55 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 13 20:31:44 2024
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 19:31:44 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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There you go ? might be a market for us oldsters!!

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 6:26 PM
To: alfuller194 at gmail.com; 'Chris Scholz' <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>; 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com>; josef-eckert at t-online.de
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

ah yes, Al...maybe we should bottle it as aftershave? My nephew bought my '58 Sprite as he remembered the smell of my garage and now his garage smells that way too!  Hank
-------------------- 

From: <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> > 
To: <gradea1 at charter.net <mailto:gradea1 at charter.net> >, "'Chris Scholz'" <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com <mailto:drscholz at visioncenterpc.com> >, "'HealeyRick'" <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >, <josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> > 
Cc: <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > 
Sent: February 12, 2024 at 6:40 PM PST 
Subject: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure 

And Hank ? don?t forget about the smell!!

 

Our local car club had a drive of about three (3) hours on Saturday, and I happened to be at the back of the pack. While it did take a couple of days to clear out my nose, I was back in the garage today tuning up and working out a fuel delivery on a car that has sat for a few years ? and got another dose of exhaust blowing back into the garage!! ?

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Hank Leach via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:18 AM
To: Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com <mailto:drscholz at visioncenterpc.com> >; HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >; josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

There are plenty of electric vehicles available today and many more tomorrow...most folks bought Healeys for their looks and their sound.

Would you pull out of the garage to listen to it hummmmmmmmmmmmmm? Hank


-------------------- 

From: "josef-eckert--- via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > 
Reply-To: <josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> > 
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Cc: <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > 
Sent: February 11, 2024 at 7:22 AM PST 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any  motorway here in Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.

 

Josef Eckert

K?nigswinter/Germany

 

 

 

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Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100

Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >

 

 

 

I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric conversion.   

 

An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.  

 

Sent from my iPhone 

Chris Scholz OD

 

On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > wrote:

Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? ? 

 

Rick

 

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past). 

I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.

Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for breast implants either; just not the same.

* Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).




On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:

I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works great.   

Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.   

I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.  

 

Sent from my iPhone 

Chris Scholz OD

 

On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick  <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was. 

 

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.

 

Best of Luck,

Rick

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

 

Bob

 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

 

Best of luck,

Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

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From airtightproductions at me.com  Tue Feb 13 22:21:30 2024
From: airtightproductions at me.com (Steven Kingsbury)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 05:21:30 +0000 (UTC)
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Met a woman with a TR3 Small Mouth at a car show and we decided to go and get a drink at a bar we both knew, We semi-race over there, me in my BN1, she in her TR3 and she was right behind me all the way and when we got to the bar, I said you never even made a move to try and pass, how come? Well she says, it had been so long since she had been behind an old British piece of iron, she didn't want to pass and get out of the smell of old technology emanating from my car! Steven Kingsbury BN1 On Feb 13, 2024, at 9:04 PM, alfuller194 at gmail.com wrote: There you go ? might be a market for us oldsters!! ----------------------------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 6:26 PM To: alfuller194 at gmail.com; 'Chris Scholz' <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>; 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com>; josef-eckert at t-online.de Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: RE: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure ah yes, Al...maybe we should bottle it as aftershave? My nephew bought my '58 Sprite as he remembered the smell of my garage and now his garage smells that way too! Hank -------------------- From: < alfuller194 at gmail.com > To: < gradea1 at charter.net >, "'Chris Scholz'" < drscholz at visioncenterpc.com >, "'HealeyRick'" < healeyrik at gmail.com >, < josef-eckert at t-online.de > Cc: < healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: February 12, 2024 at 6:40 PM PST Subject: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure And Hank ? don?t forget about the smell!! Our local car club had a drive of about three (3) hours on Saturday, and I happened to be at the back of the pack. While it did take a couple of days to clear out my nose, I was back in the garage today tuning up and working out a fuel delivery on a car that has sat for a few years ? and got another dose of exhaust blowing back into the garage!! ? ----------------------------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Healeys < healeys-bounces at autox.team.net > On Behalf Of Hank Leach via Healeys Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:18 AM To: Chris Scholz < drscholz at visioncenterpc.com >; HealeyRick < healeyrik at gmail.com >; josef-eckert at t-online.de Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure There are plenty of electric vehicles available today and many more tomorrow...most folks bought Healeys for their looks and their sound. Would you pull out of the garage to listen to it hummmmmmmmmmmmmm? Hank -------------------- From: "josef-eckert--- via Healeys" < healeys at autox.team.net > Reply-To: < josef-eckert at t-online.de > To: "Chris Scholz" < drscholz at visioncenterpc.com >, "HealeyRick" < healeyrik at gmail.com > Cc: < healeys at autox.team.net > Sent: February 11, 2024 at 7:22 AM PST Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any motorway here in Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful. Josef Eckert K?nigswinter/Germany -----Original-Nachricht----- Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100 Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" < healeys at autox.team.net > An: "HealeyRick" < healeyrik at gmail.com > I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric conversion. An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience. Sent from my iPhone Chris Scholz OD On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16 PM, HealeyRick < healeyrik at gmail.com > wrote: Now, you've gone too far, Bob. An electric Healey? Bleah! As you say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? ? Rick On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net > wrote: The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past). I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all. Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for breast implants either; just not the same. * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though). On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote: I love my LS1 swap. It was a lot of work. Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees. Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit. Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump. Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint. Works great. Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly. 72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires. Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?. It rides and handles so well. My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8. I feel my value went up. I love my reliability and the torque is amazing. Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go. I would never go back to the heavy iron block. I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him. Sent from my iPhone Chris Scholz OD On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58 PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote: A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place. It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more. You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264 The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful. I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires. Much more power than that and those parts will start braking. A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was. My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6. Best of Luck, Rick On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11 PM < rfbegani at gmail.com > wrote: Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement. Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans. My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees. Did you do the exchange? What engine trans etc. did you use? All options are on the table. Bob From: HealeyRick < healeyrik at gmail.com > Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM To: rfbegani at gmail.com Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot. Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices. Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity. I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there! Best of luck, Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick" On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12 AM < rfbegani at gmail.com > wrote: Gentlemen: I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey. Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly. Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings. My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings. So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage. We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine. Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place. I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do? I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible. My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible. Please give me your advice. 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Steven, is there a metaphor hiding in there???

 

Bruce Steele

1960 BN7

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Steven Kingsbury via Healeys
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Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Met a woman with a TR3 Small Mouth at a car show and we decided to go and get a drink at a bar we both knew, We semi-race over there, me in my BN1, she in her TR3 and she was right behind me all the way and when we got to the bar, I said you never even made a move to try and pass, how come? Well she says, it had been so long since she had been behind an old British piece of iron, she didn't want to pass and get out of the smell of old technology emanating from my car! 

Steven Kingsbury

BN1

 

On Feb 13, 2024, at 9:04 PM, alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com>  wrote:

 

 

There you go ? might be a market for us oldsters!!

 

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All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net <mailto:gradea1 at charter.net> > 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 6:26 PM
To: alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> ; 'Chris Scholz' <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com <mailto:drscholz at visioncenterpc.com> >; 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >; josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

ah yes, Al...maybe we should bottle it as aftershave? My nephew bought my '58 Sprite as he remembered the smell of my garage and now his garage smells that way too!  Hank

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To: <gradea1 at charter.net <mailto:gradea1 at charter.net> >, "'Chris Scholz'" <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com <mailto:drscholz at visioncenterpc.com> >, "'HealeyRick'" <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >, <josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> > 

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Sent: February 12, 2024 at 6:40 PM PST 

Subject: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

And Hank ? don?t forget about the smell!!

 

Our local car club had a drive of about three (3) hours on Saturday, and I happened to be at the back of the pack. While it did take a couple of days to clear out my nose, I was back in the garage today tuning up and working out a fuel delivery on a car that has sat for a few years ? and got another dose of exhaust blowing back into the garage!! ?

 

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All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Hank Leach via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:18 AM
To: Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com <mailto:drscholz at visioncenterpc.com> >; HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >; josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

There are plenty of electric vehicles available today and many more tomorrow...most folks bought Healeys for their looks and their sound.

Would you pull out of the garage to listen to it hummmmmmmmmmmmmm? Hank

 

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From: "josef-eckert--- via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > 

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Sent: February 11, 2024 at 7:22 AM PST 

Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any  motorway here in Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.

 

Josef Eckert

K?nigswinter/Germany

 

 

 

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Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100

Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >

 

 

 

I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric conversion.  

 

An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.  

 

Sent from my iPhone

Chris Scholz OD

 

On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > wrote:

Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? ?

 

Rick

 

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past). 

I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.

Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for breast implants either; just not the same.

* Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).

On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:

I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works great.  

Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.   

I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.  

 

Sent from my iPhone

Chris Scholz OD

 

On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick  <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was.

 

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.

 

Best of Luck,

Rick

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

 

Bob

 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

 

Best of luck,

Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 11:34:43 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
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See ? it?s an aphrodisiac!! ?

 

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All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Steven Kingsbury <airtightproductions at me.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:22 PM
To: alfuller194 at gmail.com
Cc: gradea1 at charter.net; 'Chris Scholz' <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>; 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com>; josef-eckert at t-online.de; healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Met a woman with a TR3 Small Mouth at a car show and we decided to go and get a drink at a bar we both knew, We semi-race over there, me in my BN1, she in her TR3 and she was right behind me all the way and when we got to the bar, I said you never even made a move to try and pass, how come? Well she says, it had been so long since she had been behind an old British piece of iron, she didn't want to pass and get out of the smell of old technology emanating from my car! 

Steven Kingsbury

BN1

 

On Feb 13, 2024, at 9:04 PM, alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com>  wrote:

 

 

There you go ? might be a market for us oldsters!!

 

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All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net <mailto:gradea1 at charter.net> > 
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 6:26 PM
To: alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> ; 'Chris Scholz' <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com <mailto:drscholz at visioncenterpc.com> >; 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >; josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

ah yes, Al...maybe we should bottle it as aftershave? My nephew bought my '58 Sprite as he remembered the smell of my garage and now his garage smells that way too!  Hank

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Sent: February 12, 2024 at 6:40 PM PST 

Subject: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

And Hank ? don?t forget about the smell!!

 

Our local car club had a drive of about three (3) hours on Saturday, and I happened to be at the back of the pack. While it did take a couple of days to clear out my nose, I was back in the garage today tuning up and working out a fuel delivery on a car that has sat for a few years ? and got another dose of exhaust blowing back into the garage!! ?

 

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All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Hank Leach via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:18 AM
To: Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com <mailto:drscholz at visioncenterpc.com> >; HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >; josef-eckert at t-online.de <mailto:josef-eckert at t-online.de> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

There are plenty of electric vehicles available today and many more tomorrow...most folks bought Healeys for their looks and their sound.

Would you pull out of the garage to listen to it hummmmmmmmmmmmmm? Hank

 

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Sent: February 11, 2024 at 7:22 AM PST 

Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any  motorway here in Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.

 

Josef Eckert

K?nigswinter/Germany

 

 

 

-----Original-Nachricht-----

Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100

Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >

 

 

 

I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric conversion.  

 

An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.  

 

Sent from my iPhone

Chris Scholz OD

 

On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > wrote:

Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? ?

 

Rick

 

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past). 

I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.

Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for breast implants either; just not the same.

* Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).

On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:

I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works great.  

Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.   

I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s first choice if GM would have worked with him.  

 

Sent from my iPhone

Chris Scholz OD

 

On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick  <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system, radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much work it was.

 

My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a replacement Healey 6.

 

Best of Luck,

Rick

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options are on the table.

 

Bob

 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
To: rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> 
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

 

Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!

 

Best of luck,

Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

 

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com <mailto:rfbegani at gmail.com> > wrote:

Gentlemen:

 

I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.  Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.  Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?

 

1.	I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line bored on the engine.
2.	I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
3.	Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.

 

My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.

 

Please give me your advice.

 

Best regards,

 

Bob Begani

67 Austin-Healey BJ8

 

 

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 14:52:25 -0500
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Girls with small mouths don't make passes at men with pieces of iron.

Great story though...;+}

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 1:14?PM healeybruce--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Steven, is there a metaphor hiding in there???
>
>
>
> Bruce Steele
>
> 1960 BN7
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Steven
> Kingsbury via Healeys
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:22 PM
> *To:* alfuller194 at gmail.com
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
>
>
> Met a woman with a TR3 Small Mouth at a car show and we decided to go and
> get a drink at a bar we both knew, We semi-race over there, me in my BN1,
> she in her TR3 and she was right behind me all the way and when we got to
> the bar, I said you never even made a move to try and pass, how come? Well
> she says, it had been so long since she had been behind an old British
> piece of iron, she didn't want to pass and get out of the smell of old
> technology emanating from my car!
>
> Steven Kingsbury
>
> BN1
>
>
>
> On Feb 13, 2024, at 9:04 PM, alfuller194 at gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> There you go ? might be a market for us oldsters!!
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> *From:* Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 6:26 PM
> *To:* alfuller194 at gmail.com; 'Chris Scholz' <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>;
> 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com>; josef-eckert at t-online.de
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* RE: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
>
>
> ah yes, Al...maybe we should bottle it as aftershave? My nephew bought my
> '58 Sprite as he remembered the smell of my garage and now his garage
> smells that way too!  Hank
>
> --------------------
>
>
>
> From: <alfuller194 at gmail.com>
>
> To: <gradea1 at charter.net>, "'Chris Scholz'" <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>,
> "'HealeyRick'" <healeyrik at gmail.com>, <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
>
> Cc: <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
> Sent: February 12, 2024 at 6:40 PM PST
>
> Subject: RE: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
> And Hank ? don?t forget about the smell!!
>
>
>
> Our local car club had a drive of about three (3) hours on Saturday, and I
> happened to be at the back of the pack. While it did take a couple of days
> to clear out my nose, I was back in the garage today tuning up and working
> out a fuel delivery on a car that has sat for a few years ? and got another
> dose of exhaust blowing back into the garage!! ?
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Hank
> Leach via Healeys
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:18 AM
> *To:* Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>; HealeyRick <
> healeyrik at gmail.com>; josef-eckert at t-online.de
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
>
>
> There are plenty of electric vehicles available today and many more
> tomorrow...most folks bought Healeys for their looks and their *sound.*
>
> Would you pull out of the garage to listen to it hummmmmmmmmmmmmm? Hank
>
>
>
> --------------------
>
>
>
> From: "josef-eckert--- via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
> Reply-To: <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
>
> To: "Chris Scholz" <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>, "HealeyRick" <
> healeyrik at gmail.com>
>
> Cc: <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
> Sent: February 11, 2024 at 7:22 AM PST
>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
> What I do not understand is, why you want to convert an Austin-Healey to
> V8, Electtric, etc? For me the decision is clear to keep an Austin-Healey
> as Austin-Healey and when I like to have a V8 as well i would buy a Jaguar
> XK8 or similar as an addition. We did this with our holiday car which is a
> Mazda MX-5 Miata. The car is absolutely great and in many ways superiour to
> the Austion-Healey, especially when it comes to the heavy traffic on
> European roads and Safety. Meanwhile I do not go on any  motorway here in
> Germany with one of my Austin-Healeys. Its just painful.
>
>
>
> Josef Eckert
>
> K?nigswinter/Germany
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
> Datum: 2024-02-11T14:44:08+0100
>
> Von: "Chris Scholz via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
> An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I would be concerned with the lack of passion with a full electric
> conversion.
>
>
>
> An aluminum V8 keeps the spirit and improves the driving experience.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Chris Scholz OD
>
>
>
> On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:16?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you say, to
> each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for concours,
> modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey boats, etc.
> Can't we all just get along? ?
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an electric
> motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors off an LS or
> Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a Healey chassis much
> past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many owners do more than day trips
> anyway (my days of 5K mile trips are, unfortunately, in the past).
>
> I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so I
> bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens) un-mutated,
> and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my survivors will have to
> sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I could get 93-octane--disks all
> around (Brembos in front), electric throttle and steering (several modes),
> 19x9/10 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda
> suspension upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly;
> I'm not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I reckon
> a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the sweepers and
> straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and it's fun, but the
> Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to drive--by far--warts and all.
>
> Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want with it"
> person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix Ignitors in both; taller
> rear-end for highway driveability, Texas Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but
> I never have, and never will, understand why people buy a car they don't
> actually want just to change it (owners with broken/missing engines who
> think 'Why not?' I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way
> you want it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for
> breast implants either; just not the same.
>
> * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet to see
> a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean it hasn't
> happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs, LSes, etc. are a
> dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or imaginative (they do have
> garish paint jobs though).
>
> On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
>
> I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage Wizard
> radiator with 15? spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110 heat index and
> car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to get the alternator to
> fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything
> barely fit longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
> fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u joint.  Works
> great.
>
> Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife limited slip
> diff and it works perfectly.  72? Daytona wire wheels with 205 wide tires.
>   Lowered the front spring perches -my front was so much lighter it was up
> in the air by 2-3?.  It rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6
> so it wasn?t worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
>
> I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much fun to
> slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never go back to the
> heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8 would have been Healey?s
> first choice if GM would have worked with him.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Chris Scholz OD
>
>
>
> On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58?PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as simple as
> "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly focusing on making engine
> and transmission mounts and cutting away pieces of the footwells so the
> motor will fit with the exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff
> you need to do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
> radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter, etc, etc.
> It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra, but you'll also knock
> off about 30 percent of your car's value or more.  You can see the work I
> had to do to put a Ford 5.0L and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
> http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264  The Ford 5.0 is narrower
> than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a huge difference. LS
> motors are more likely to be found in a junkyard with low mileage now and
> with your brother a GM mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75%
> of the swap myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My
> car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and Dayton 72
> spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those parts will start
> braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy, but if you do a bad one it
> will be a nightmare forever. Chris did a really nice swap with his LS but
> he can speak to how much work it was.
>
>
>
> My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be to try a
> replacement Healey 6.
>
>
>
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11?PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made that
> suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother is a retired GM
> mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the exchange?  What engine trans etc.
> did you use?  All options are on the table.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
> *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>
>
>
> Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems correct.
> Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough spot.  Maybe trying to find
> a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8 motor is the best of a bad group of
> choices.  Too bad, I gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few
> years ago for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in the
> club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and hope someone out there
> might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have
> one that needs rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
>
>
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12?AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Gentlemen:
>
>
>
> I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my 67 Austin-Healey.
> Drove it a mile and heard clanking engine, looked at the oil pressure, It
> was O! Instead of stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly.
> Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the rod and crank caps
> and bearings.  My mechanic friend said you got lucky the crank may only
> need polishing and new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
> bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods and caps in
> individual plastic bags. Then packed them into a larger plastic bag which
> was put under the workbench near the garbage.  We towed the car to Mikes
> garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.  Tuesday, he asked me
> to bring the parts I had removed from the engine so he would have
> everything in one place.  I looked around but could not find this black
> plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the garbage. So, I am now
> up the famous creek and am asking this group what I can do?
>
>
>
>    1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main Bearing caps are
>    not available and even if you could find them, they would need to be line
>    bored on the engine.
>    2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000 with original
>    main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>    3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>
>
>
> My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago everything new, so I would
> like to find a way of fixing the existing engine, if possible.
>
>
>
> Please give me your advice.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> 67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>
>
>
>
>
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From healeybruce at roadrunner.com  Wed Feb 14 13:32:15 2024
From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (healeybruce at roadrunner.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 12:32:15 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey
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Kenny Derringer built his 100 with a Buick 215?sweet engine in a 100.  One correction, though?it was never used in a Riveria.  It was standard in the 1961 Buck Special, and Olds and Pontiac also offered it in their senior compacts.

 

Bruce Steele

1960 BN7

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:55 PM
To: 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com>; 'Al Fuller' <alfuller194 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

 

The Rover V8 ? Buick Riviera engine is actually lighter than the stock 100 engine.  I think it was 180 bhp.

One of our Auckland members fitted one to his BN1 ? which had a tired engine ? back in 1976.  It did a great job.

Officially clocked at 145 mph on a clear long straight in South Auckland.

The car now has a larger (Chev) engine fed by a Holley Quadrajet.  Even livelier.

 

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 

Here it is last Sunday



 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2024 3:31 AM
To: Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> >
Cc: Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com <mailto:drscholz at visioncenterpc.com> >; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

 

The Rover V8 is basically the 215 ci Buick aluminum engine that Rover later bought the rights to.  It really doesn't put out enough power in stock form for the heavy big Healey but is much better suited to a Sprite.  For me, who loves these old Healey drag cars this was a very fun read from Facebook:

 



 

"


 <https://www.facebook.com/groups/537339426646017/user/100003870632662/?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZWofg1JW_qoTFNaekfgzlfLMwzVzLqu2wI3BPYAm5GVe-YFXAuSRqP_yjTd99qJfM8wJFdUrLwJ7pwYyCWQJBg3GObGDeA2FIBE1HNq6ZjBmYbjH9OT1TQsfFw8dHjA-f1iYRZBx2Ldxhk0UT2Xxvy-T5zi6mT6FBzhmhobeTqAxgFNippsVoX2UK7OWtj7cwSIuVScQgIN7pa0_h6myehDk9ZkMZG9Hxlh4cGIEVLUrg&__tn__=-UC*F> David Van Weele


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This is a picture of my brother driving my car back in 1969 at Morosso in Palm Beach, Fl. I purchased the car new in 1960 a dealer in Bayport NY. I street drove the car until 1963 when I purchased a new 1963 Corvette Z06. I had an accident in 1962 that destroyed the bug eye lights so I purchased a Peasmarsh fiber glass bonnet. It looked like an XKE Jag with the headlights under plexiglass covers. With the Z06 to drive on the street my brother and I installed a Buick 215 CI aluminum engine. We built the engine with Hilborn fuel injection, Isky cam and kit, 13:1 Forge True pistons, Mickey Thompson Alum rods, Thomas magnesium rocker arms, Vertex Magneto, T-10 transmission, 57 Chevy rear end shortened to fit under the body and used M&H slicks on widened Corvette wheels. With the hood surround we ran B Modified Sport and If we removed the surround we ran C Altered. It ran very well, the cam and set up produced max HP at 10,500 RPM so the straight exhaust had the sound of any Indy car. This is what happens when a H Production car grows up."

 

 

Se

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 9:25?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Has anyone here put the Rove V-8 in a Healey? I think I heard that was a nice balance between weight savings, increased power and level of difficulty.

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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 14 15:07:39 2024
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 14:07:39 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BN1 on BaT
Message-ID: <67BC0307-4288-4832-A95F-BB0A8544E48E@gmail.com>

New listing.  I didn?t get far in the read.  I stopped when I read "fiberglass was applied to the footwells and trunk before the repaint?. 




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From pdzwig at summaventures.com  Wed Feb 14 15:52:23 2024
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 22:52:23 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey
Message-ID: <ea7ebbab-21b1-4d20-9a8b-99c9d16c7e89@summaventures.com>

nteresting. The so-called BOLD engine (Buick-Oldsmobile-Leyland-Dodge) 
was a remarkable engine in its day, combining huge flexibility, 
adaptability and low-weight.

I had it in an MGB GT V8 and it was capable of putting out 150+ BHP in 
standard MGB (Leyland) trim. I bought my standard car from MGB racer 
Barry Sidery-Smith (Barry "Sideways" Smith) and I seem to recall that he 
said the 3.5 litre engine was good for a lot more. I have a feeling that 
figures substantially north of 200 BHP being mentioned. Even in standard 
fettle, it made for a pretty exciting (i.e. fun) drive on the right roads.

The engine was used in Range Rover models up to 1989 MY; and could 
generate enough torque to do all those RR-type things you might want to.

Would I put one in a Healey? Well, if I were thinking of doing that sort 
of thing it is something that would probably be on the list. You need to 
be sure which variant of the basic design that you have got though, 
there was quite a bit of variation over time and between manufacturers 
with some versions going up to 5 litres!

https//:www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_V8_engine/

lists many of the versions

Peter

-- 

Dr. Peter Dzwig

From p.cquinn at outlook.com  Wed Feb 14 15:52:41 2024
From: p.cquinn at outlook.com (Patrick and Caroline Quinn)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 22:52:41 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey
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Hello

Interesting engine with an interesting history.

It started as a single design, and then morphed into separate designs for Buick and Oldsmobile.

Rover in the UK bought the rights to the Buick engine as it was slight lighter and less complicated that it?s Oldsmobile cousin. The Oldsmobile engine had six head studs per cylinder, while the Buick had four.

The build rights of the Oldsmobile engine were acquired by Repco here in Australia and formed the basis of the Repco-Brabham V8 engine that was used by Jack Brabham to win the 1965 Formula 1 World Championship.

There are a couple of 100s here in Australia fitted with Rover V8s and if you must fit a V8 to an Austin-Healey it would be a good choice. There are a number of Repco V8s still in use within Historic Motorsport.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of healeybruce--- via Healeys
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 7:32 AM
To: 'Mark Donaldson' <ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz>; 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com>; 'Al Fuller' <alfuller194 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

Kenny Derringer built his 100 with a Buick 215?sweet engine in a 100.  One correction, though?it was never used in a Riveria.  It was standard in the 1961 Buck Special, and Olds and Pontiac also offered it in their senior compacts.

Bruce Steele
1960 BN7

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:55 PM
To: 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com<mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com>>; 'Al Fuller' <alfuller194 at gmail.com<mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com>>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

The Rover V8 ? Buick Riviera engine is actually lighter than the stock 100 engine.  I think it was 180 bhp.
One of our Auckland members fitted one to his BN1 ? which had a tired engine ? back in 1976.  It did a great job.
Officially clocked at 145 mph on a clear long straight in South Auckland.
The car now has a larger (Chev) engine fed by a Holley Quadrajet.  Even livelier.

Mark
Ardmore, NZ

Here it is last Sunday
[cid:image001.jpg at 01DA5FF2.6CB75710]

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com<mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2024 3:31 AM
To: Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com<mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com>>
Cc: Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com<mailto:drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

The Rover V8 is basically the 215 ci Buick aluminum engine that Rover later bought the rights to.  It really doesn't put out enough power in stock form for the heavy big Healey but is much better suited to a Sprite.  For me, who loves these old Healey drag cars this was a very fun read from Facebook:

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"
David Van Weele<https://www.facebook.com/groups/537339426646017/user/100003870632662/?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZWofg1JW_qoTFNaekfgzlfLMwzVzLqu2wI3BPYAm5GVe-YFXAuSRqP_yjTd99qJfM8wJFdUrLwJ7pwYyCWQJBg3GObGDeA2FIBE1HNq6ZjBmYbjH9OT1TQsfFw8dHjA-f1iYRZBx2Ldxhk0UT2Xxvy-T5zi6mT6FBzhmhobeTqAxgFNippsVoX2UK7OWtj7cwSIuVScQgIN7pa0_h6myehDk9ZkMZG9Hxlh4cGIEVLUrg&__tn__=-UC*F>
rsdeSontpo 62t0My:11liamam1g3t 5P0 0cu9t 1u7F0brm1g2g1hgf0re<https://www.facebook.com/groups/537339426646017/posts/2005694813143797/?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZWofg1JW_qoTFNaekfgzlfLMwzVzLqu2wI3BPYAm5GVe-YFXAuSRqP_yjTd99qJfM8wJFdUrLwJ7pwYyCWQJBg3GObGDeA2FIBE1HNq6ZjBmYbjH9OT1TQsfFw8dHjA-f1iYRZBx2Ldxhk0UT2Xxvy-T5zi6mT6FBzhmhobeTqAxgFNippsVoX2UK7OWtj7cwSIuVScQgIN7pa0_h6myehDk9ZkMZG9Hxlh4cGIEVLUrg&__tn__=%2CO*F>  ?
This is a picture of my brother driving my car back in 1969 at Morosso in Palm Beach, Fl. I purchased the car new in 1960 a dealer in Bayport NY. I street drove the car until 1963 when I purchased a new 1963 Corvette Z06. I had an accident in 1962 that destroyed the bug eye lights so I purchased a Peasmarsh fiber glass bonnet. It looked like an XKE Jag with the headlights under plexiglass covers. With the Z06 to drive on the street my brother and I installed a Buick 215 CI aluminum engine. We built the engine with Hilborn fuel injection, Isky cam and kit, 13:1 Forge True pistons, Mickey Thompson Alum rods, Thomas magnesium rocker arms, Vertex Magneto, T-10 transmission, 57 Chevy rear end shortened to fit under the body and used M&H slicks on widened Corvette wheels. With the hood surround we ran B Modified Sport and If we removed the surround we ran C Altered. It ran very well, the cam and set up produced max HP at 10,500 RPM so the straight exhaust had the sound of any Indy car. This is what happens when a H Production car grows up."


Se
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 9:25?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com<mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Has anyone here put the Rove V-8 in a Healey? I think I heard that was a nice balance between weight savings, increased power and level of difficulty.
-----------------------------------
All the best,
Al Fuller
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 14 17:17:18 2024
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2024 16:17:18 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey
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Thanks Patrick:

 

I always did hear the Rover V-8 was a good fit due to its lighter weight as well as just enough power. I have heard of several guys who built up Healeys with as much power as they could stuff in the car ? only to find they now have a monster on their hands that is barely controllable. I guess you CAN have too much power!

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Patrick and Caroline Quinn <p.cquinn at outlook.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 2:53 PM
To: healeybruce at roadrunner.com; 'Mark Donaldson' <ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz>; 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com>; 'Al Fuller' <alfuller194 at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

 

Hello

 

Interesting engine with an interesting history.

 

It started as a single design, and then morphed into separate designs for Buick and Oldsmobile.

 

Rover in the UK bought the rights to the Buick engine as it was slight lighter and less complicated that it?s Oldsmobile cousin. The Oldsmobile engine had six head studs per cylinder, while the Buick had four.

 

The build rights of the Oldsmobile engine were acquired by Repco here in Australia and formed the basis of the Repco-Brabham V8 engine that was used by Jack Brabham to win the 1965 Formula 1 World Championship.

 

There are a couple of 100s here in Australia fitted with Rover V8s and if you must fit a V8 to an Austin-Healey it would be a good choice. There are a number of Repco V8s still in use within Historic Motorsport.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of healeybruce--- via Healeys
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 7:32 AM
To: 'Mark Donaldson' <ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz <mailto:ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz> >; 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >; 'Al Fuller' <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

 

Kenny Derringer built his 100 with a Buick 215?sweet engine in a 100.  One correction, though?it was never used in a Riveria.  It was standard in the 1961 Buck Special, and Olds and Pontiac also offered it in their senior compacts.

 

Bruce Steele

1960 BN7

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:55 PM
To: 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> >; 'Al Fuller' <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> >
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

 

The Rover V8 ? Buick Riviera engine is actually lighter than the stock 100 engine.  I think it was 180 bhp.

One of our Auckland members fitted one to his BN1 ? which had a tired engine ? back in 1976.  It did a great job.

Officially clocked at 145 mph on a clear long straight in South Auckland.

The car now has a larger (Chev) engine fed by a Holley Quadrajet.  Even livelier.

 

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

 

Here it is last Sunday



 

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> > 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2024 3:31 AM
To: Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> >
Cc: Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com <mailto:drscholz at visioncenterpc.com> >; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

 

The Rover V8 is basically the 215 ci Buick aluminum engine that Rover later bought the rights to.  It really doesn't put out enough power in stock form for the heavy big Healey but is much better suited to a Sprite.  For me, who loves these old Healey drag cars this was a very fun read from Facebook:

 



 

"


 <https://www.facebook.com/groups/537339426646017/user/100003870632662/?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZWofg1JW_qoTFNaekfgzlfLMwzVzLqu2wI3BPYAm5GVe-YFXAuSRqP_yjTd99qJfM8wJFdUrLwJ7pwYyCWQJBg3GObGDeA2FIBE1HNq6ZjBmYbjH9OT1TQsfFw8dHjA-f1iYRZBx2Ldxhk0UT2Xxvy-T5zi6mT6FBzhmhobeTqAxgFNippsVoX2UK7OWtj7cwSIuVScQgIN7pa0_h6myehDk9ZkMZG9Hxlh4cGIEVLUrg&__tn__=-UC*F> David Van Weele


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This is a picture of my brother driving my car back in 1969 at Morosso in Palm Beach, Fl. I purchased the car new in 1960 a dealer in Bayport NY. I street drove the car until 1963 when I purchased a new 1963 Corvette Z06. I had an accident in 1962 that destroyed the bug eye lights so I purchased a Peasmarsh fiber glass bonnet. It looked like an XKE Jag with the headlights under plexiglass covers. With the Z06 to drive on the street my brother and I installed a Buick 215 CI aluminum engine. We built the engine with Hilborn fuel injection, Isky cam and kit, 13:1 Forge True pistons, Mickey Thompson Alum rods, Thomas magnesium rocker arms, Vertex Magneto, T-10 transmission, 57 Chevy rear end shortened to fit under the body and used M&H slicks on widened Corvette wheels. With the hood surround we ran B Modified Sport and If we removed the surround we ran C Altered. It ran very well, the cam and set up produced max HP at 10,500 RPM so the straight exhaust had the sound of any Indy car. This is what happens when a H Production car grows up."

 

 

Se

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 9:25?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Has anyone here put the Rove V-8 in a Healey? I think I heard that was a nice balance between weight savings, increased power and level of difficulty.

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From pieterscheen at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 14 21:48:13 2024
From: pieterscheen at yahoo.com (pieter scheenhouwer)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 14:48:13 +1000
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey
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From p.cquinn at outlook.com  Wed Feb 14 23:11:03 2024
From: p.cquinn at outlook.com (Patrick and Caroline Quinn)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 06:11:03 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey
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G?day

The alloy 4.4 litre version was used in the ill-fated Leyland P76, virtually the last hurrah for British Leyland in Australia. They are hard to come by these days.

So versatile was the Buick derived 3.5 litre V8 that it could be taken out to 5 litres and used in Formula 5000 open wheelers. Australian racing car manufacturer Elfin, did just that and while it wasn?t as powerful as the Chev based F5000 engines, being cast in aluminium it was far lighter than the Chev?s cast iron construction.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia

From: pieter scheenhouwer <pieterscheen at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 3:48 PM
To: Patrick and Caroline Quinn <p.cquinn at outlook.com>
Cc: healeybruce at roadrunner.com; Mark Donaldson <ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz>; HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>; Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

I have the Leyland 4.4litre version of this engine in my boat( a photo of which is in the latest Australian Healey Newsletter).
 Putting out about 230bhp it will push this 22ft wooden runabout along at a good 30knots+ all day.
 We won?t discuss fuel consumption:)
Piet
Sent from my iPhone


On 15 Feb 2024, at 11:59, Patrick and Caroline Quinn <p.cquinn at outlook.com<mailto:p.cquinn at outlook.com>> wrote:
?
Hello

Interesting engine with an interesting history.

It started as a single design, and then morphed into separate designs for Buick and Oldsmobile.

Rover in the UK bought the rights to the Buick engine as it was slight lighter and less complicated that it?s Oldsmobile cousin. The Oldsmobile engine had six head studs per cylinder, while the Buick had four.

The build rights of the Oldsmobile engine were acquired by Repco here in Australia and formed the basis of the Repco-Brabham V8 engine that was used by Jack Brabham to win the 1965 Formula 1 World Championship.

There are a couple of 100s here in Australia fitted with Rover V8s and if you must fit a V8 to an Austin-Healey it would be a good choice. There are a number of Repco V8s still in use within Historic Motorsport.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of healeybruce--- via Healeys
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2024 7:32 AM
To: 'Mark Donaldson' <ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz<mailto:ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz>>; 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com<mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com>>; 'Al Fuller' <alfuller194 at gmail.com<mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com>>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

Kenny Derringer built his 100 with a Buick 215?sweet engine in a 100.  One correction, though?it was never used in a Riveria.  It was standard in the 1961 Buck Special, and Olds and Pontiac also offered it in their senior compacts.

Bruce Steele
1960 BN7

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Mark Donaldson
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:55 PM
To: 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com<mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com>>; 'Al Fuller' <alfuller194 at gmail.com<mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com>>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

The Rover V8 ? Buick Riviera engine is actually lighter than the stock 100 engine.  I think it was 180 bhp.
One of our Auckland members fitted one to his BN1 ? which had a tired engine ? back in 1976.  It did a great job.
Officially clocked at 145 mph on a clear long straight in South Auckland.
The car now has a larger (Chev) engine fed by a Holley Quadrajet.  Even livelier.

Mark
Ardmore, NZ

Here it is last Sunday
<image001.jpg>

From: HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com<mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2024 3:31 AM
To: Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com<mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com>>
Cc: Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com<mailto:drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey

The Rover V8 is basically the 215 ci Buick aluminum engine that Rover later bought the rights to.  It really doesn't put out enough power in stock form for the heavy big Healey but is much better suited to a Sprite.  For me, who loves these old Healey drag cars this was a very fun read from Facebook:

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"
David Van Weele<https://www.facebook.com/groups/537339426646017/user/100003870632662/?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZWofg1JW_qoTFNaekfgzlfLMwzVzLqu2wI3BPYAm5GVe-YFXAuSRqP_yjTd99qJfM8wJFdUrLwJ7pwYyCWQJBg3GObGDeA2FIBE1HNq6ZjBmYbjH9OT1TQsfFw8dHjA-f1iYRZBx2Ldxhk0UT2Xxvy-T5zi6mT6FBzhmhobeTqAxgFNippsVoX2UK7OWtj7cwSIuVScQgIN7pa0_h6myehDk9ZkMZG9Hxlh4cGIEVLUrg&__tn__=-UC*F>
rsdeSontpo 62t0My:11liamam1g3t 5P0 0cu9t 1u7F0brm1g2g1hgf0re<https://www.facebook.com/groups/537339426646017/posts/2005694813143797/?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZWofg1JW_qoTFNaekfgzlfLMwzVzLqu2wI3BPYAm5GVe-YFXAuSRqP_yjTd99qJfM8wJFdUrLwJ7pwYyCWQJBg3GObGDeA2FIBE1HNq6ZjBmYbjH9OT1TQsfFw8dHjA-f1iYRZBx2Ldxhk0UT2Xxvy-T5zi6mT6FBzhmhobeTqAxgFNippsVoX2UK7OWtj7cwSIuVScQgIN7pa0_h6myehDk9ZkMZG9Hxlh4cGIEVLUrg&__tn__=%2CO*F>  ?
This is a picture of my brother driving my car back in 1969 at Morosso in Palm Beach, Fl. I purchased the car new in 1960 a dealer in Bayport NY. I street drove the car until 1963 when I purchased a new 1963 Corvette Z06. I had an accident in 1962 that destroyed the bug eye lights so I purchased a Peasmarsh fiber glass bonnet. It looked like an XKE Jag with the headlights under plexiglass covers. With the Z06 to drive on the street my brother and I installed a Buick 215 CI aluminum engine. We built the engine with Hilborn fuel injection, Isky cam and kit, 13:1 Forge True pistons, Mickey Thompson Alum rods, Thomas magnesium rocker arms, Vertex Magneto, T-10 transmission, 57 Chevy rear end shortened to fit under the body and used M&H slicks on widened Corvette wheels. With the hood surround we ran B Modified Sport and If we removed the surround we ran C Altered. It ran very well, the cam and set up produced max HP at 10,500 RPM so the straight exhaust had the sound of any Indy car. This is what happens when a H Production car grows up."


Se
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 9:25?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com<mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Has anyone here put the Rove V-8 in a Healey? I think I heard that was a nice balance between weight savings, increased power and level of difficulty.
-----------------------------------
All the best,
Al Fuller
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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Thu Feb 15 06:28:54 2024
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 08:28:54 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey
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We'd be remiss in not mentioning the Repco-Brabham motor in the Healey
XR-37.  A factory-installed V8 in a Healey!

Rick Neville.  aka "HealeyRick"

On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 5:52?PM Patrick and Caroline Quinn <
p.cquinn at outlook.com> wrote:

> Hello
>
>
>
> Interesting engine with an interesting history.
>
>
>
> It started as a single design, and then morphed into separate designs for
> Buick and Oldsmobile.
>
>
>
> Rover in the UK bought the rights to the Buick engine as it was slight
> lighter and less complicated that it?s Oldsmobile cousin. The Oldsmobile
> engine had six head studs per cylinder, while the Buick had four.
>
>
>
> The build rights of the Oldsmobile engine were acquired by Repco here in
> Australia and formed the basis of the Repco-Brabham V8 engine that was used
> by Jack Brabham to win the 1965 Formula 1 World Championship.
>
>
>
> There are a couple of 100s here in Australia fitted with Rover V8s and if
> you must fit a V8 to an Austin-Healey it would be a good choice. There are
> a number of Repco V8s still in use within Historic Motorsport.
>
>
>
> Hoo Roo
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> Blue Mountains, Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *healeybruce---
> via Healeys
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 15, 2024 7:32 AM
> *To:* 'Mark Donaldson' <ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz>; 'HealeyRick' <
> healeyrik at gmail.com>; 'Al Fuller' <alfuller194 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey
>
>
>
> Kenny Derringer built his 100 with a Buick 215?sweet engine in a 100.  One
> correction, though?it was never used in a Riveria.  It was standard in the
> 1961 Buck Special, and Olds and Pontiac also offered it in their senior
> compacts.
>
>
>
> Bruce Steele
>
> 1960 BN7
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Mark
> Donaldson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:55 PM
> *To:* 'HealeyRick' <healeyrik at gmail.com>; 'Al Fuller' <
> alfuller194 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey
>
>
>
> The Rover V8 ? Buick Riviera engine is actually *lighter* than the stock
> 100 engine.  I think it was 180 bhp.
>
> One of our Auckland members fitted one to his BN1 ? which had a tired
> engine ? back in 1976.  It did a great job.
>
> Officially clocked at 145 mph on a clear long straight in South Auckland.
>
> The car now has a larger (Chev) engine fed by a Holley Quadrajet.  Even
> livelier.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
> Ardmore, NZ
>
>
>
> Here it is last Sunday
>
>
>
> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 February 2024 3:31 AM
> *To:* Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Chris Scholz <drscholz at visioncenterpc.com>; Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Rover V8 in a Healey
>
>
>
> The Rover V8 is basically the 215 ci Buick aluminum engine that Rover
> later bought the rights to.  It really doesn't put out enough power in
> stock form for the heavy big Healey but is much better suited to a Sprite.
> For me, who loves these old Healey drag cars this was a very fun read from
> Facebook:
>
>
>
>
>
> "
> David Van Weele
> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/537339426646017/user/100003870632662/?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZWofg1JW_qoTFNaekfgzlfLMwzVzLqu2wI3BPYAm5GVe-YFXAuSRqP_yjTd99qJfM8wJFdUrLwJ7pwYyCWQJBg3GObGDeA2FIBE1HNq6ZjBmYbjH9OT1TQsfFw8dHjA-f1iYRZBx2Ldxhk0UT2Xxvy-T5zi6mT6FBzhmhobeTqAxgFNippsVoX2UK7OWtj7cwSIuVScQgIN7pa0_h6myehDk9ZkMZG9Hxlh4cGIEVLUrg&__tn__=-UC*F>
>
> rsdeSontpo 62t0My:11liamam1g3t 5P0 0cu9t 1u7F0brm1g2g1hgf0re
> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/537339426646017/posts/2005694813143797/?__cft__%5b0%5d=AZWofg1JW_qoTFNaekfgzlfLMwzVzLqu2wI3BPYAm5GVe-YFXAuSRqP_yjTd99qJfM8wJFdUrLwJ7pwYyCWQJBg3GObGDeA2FIBE1HNq6ZjBmYbjH9OT1TQsfFw8dHjA-f1iYRZBx2Ldxhk0UT2Xxvy-T5zi6mT6FBzhmhobeTqAxgFNippsVoX2UK7OWtj7cwSIuVScQgIN7pa0_h6myehDk9ZkMZG9Hxlh4cGIEVLUrg&__tn__=%2CO*F>
>   ?
>
> This is a picture of my brother driving my car back in 1969 at Morosso in
> Palm Beach, Fl. I purchased the car new in 1960 a dealer in Bayport NY. I
> street drove the car until 1963 when I purchased a new 1963 Corvette Z06. I
> had an accident in 1962 that destroyed the bug eye lights so I purchased a
> Peasmarsh fiber glass bonnet. It looked like an XKE Jag with the headlights
> under plexiglass covers. With the Z06 to drive on the street my brother and
> I installed a Buick 215 CI aluminum engine. We built the engine with
> Hilborn fuel injection, Isky cam and kit, 13:1 Forge True pistons, Mickey
> Thompson Alum rods, Thomas magnesium rocker arms, Vertex Magneto, T-10
> transmission, 57 Chevy rear end shortened to fit under the body and used
> M&H slicks on widened Corvette wheels. With the hood surround we ran B
> Modified Sport and If we removed the surround we ran C Altered. It ran very
> well, the cam and set up produced max HP at 10,500 RPM so the straight
> exhaust had the sound of any Indy car. This is what happens when a H
> Production car grows up."
>
>
>
>
>
> *Se*
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 9:25?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone here put the Rove V-8 in a Healey? I think I heard that was a
> nice balance between weight savings, increased power and level of
> difficulty.
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> All the best,
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
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From healeymanjim at hansencc.net  Sat Feb 17 12:31:20 2024
From: healeymanjim at hansencc.net (=?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=)
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2024 11:31:20 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] =?utf-8?q?parts?=
Message-ID: <20240217193120.877.qmail@server278.com>

have a set of  BN4 side curtains the owner does not want anymore.  seem to be in reasonable shape.  free to whomever wants to spring for the shipping.

From warthodson at aol.com  Sun Feb 18 16:58:25 2024
From: warthodson at aol.com (Warthodson)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 17:58:25 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] Unusual bolts
References: <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8.ref@edison.tech>
Message-ID: <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8@edison.tech>

     
 

 Can someone identify where these bolts are used on a Healey?
 
Thanks  
 
Gary Hodson  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
     
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From rchaskell at earthlink.net  Sun Feb 18 17:50:44 2024
From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 19:50:44 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Unusual bolts
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Message-ID: <8f7d6faf-fe58-4778-a412-6ce44e6b70e7@earthlink.net>

Windshield wiper motor mounts?

Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar

On 2/18/24 18:58, Warthodson via Healeys wrote:
> Can someone identify where these bolts are used on a Healey?
> Thanks
> Gary Hodson
>
>
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Feb 18 18:13:07 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 17:13:07 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Unusual bolts
In-Reply-To: <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8@edison.tech>
References: <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8.ref@edison.tech>
 <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8@edison.tech>
Message-ID: <7519e412-d90e-4f97-9d5b-fdf1977a7730@comcast.net>

Off the top-of-my-head, they look like the T-bolts for bolting the seat 
frames to the floorboards.


On 2/18/2024 3:58 PM, Warthodson via Healeys wrote:
> Can someone identify where these bolts are used on a Healey?
> Thanks
> Gary Hodson
>
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Feb 18 18:16:35 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 17:16:35 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
Message-ID: <6c4630f8-a964-44de-b3be-7b1bfb81f043@comcast.net>

Anyone fitted one to a Healey? I see they're available for various Brit 
cars, including Jags, Triumphs, etc.

From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Sun Feb 18 20:09:12 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 22:09:12 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Unusual bolts
In-Reply-To: <7519e412-d90e-4f97-9d5b-fdf1977a7730@comcast.net>
References: <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8.ref@edison.tech>
 <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8@edison.tech>
 <7519e412-d90e-4f97-9d5b-fdf1977a7730@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B6C01wMv1AF5sOEbNdGaRpMt=7+-Q1QWL-LR2BZ8gcJZQ@mail.gmail.com>

Remember when "Who Can Identify This Part" and "Friday Funnies" used to be
regular features on this site?

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 9:02?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

> Off the top-of-my-head, they look like the T-bolts for bolting the seat
> frames to the floorboards.
>
>
> On 2/18/2024 3:58 PM, Warthodson via Healeys wrote:
>
> Can someone identify where these bolts are used on a Healey?
> Thanks
> Gary Hodson
>
> _______________________________________________
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From healeydoc at sbcglobal.net  Sun Feb 18 20:16:40 2024
From: healeydoc at sbcglobal.net (David Nock)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 19:16:40 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Unusual bolts
In-Reply-To: <7519e412-d90e-4f97-9d5b-fdf1977a7730@comcast.net>
References: <7519e412-d90e-4f97-9d5b-fdf1977a7730@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <91C75742-03C6-4674-B374-144D604FD1A6@sbcglobal.net>

Never seen this bolt on a Healey. They are a British made. 
David Nock

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 18, 2024, at 5:55?PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ? Off the top-of-my-head, they look like the T-bolts for bolting the seat frames to the floorboards.
> 
> 
> On 2/18/2024 3:58 PM, Warthodson via Healeys wrote:
>> Can someone identify where these bolts are used on a Healey?
>> Thanks 
>> Gary Hodson 
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> 
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> 
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 18 20:31:08 2024
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2024 19:31:08 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Unusual bolts
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B6C01wMv1AF5sOEbNdGaRpMt=7+-Q1QWL-LR2BZ8gcJZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8.ref@edison.tech>
 <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8@edison.tech>
 <7519e412-d90e-4f97-9d5b-fdf1977a7730@comcast.net>
 <CAPTa0B6C01wMv1AF5sOEbNdGaRpMt=7+-Q1QWL-LR2BZ8gcJZQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <67D9DCD9-7EE9-422A-9394-05F7532731D4@gmail.com>

Oddly enough, I also miss Ed.  The guy that used all those nonsensical thingys.

Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



> On Feb 18, 2024, at 7:09 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Remember when "Who Can Identify This Part" and "Friday Funnies" used to be regular features on this site?
> 
> Best--Michael Oritt 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 9:02?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net>> wrote:
>> Off the top-of-my-head, they look like the T-bolts for bolting the seat frames to the floorboards.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/18/2024 3:58 PM, Warthodson via Healeys wrote:
>>> Can someone identify where these bolts are used on a Healey?
>>> Thanks 
>>> Gary Hodson 
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> 
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
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From rchaskell at earthlink.net  Mon Feb 19 03:40:03 2024
From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 05:40:03 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Unusual bolts
In-Reply-To: <8f7d6faf-fe58-4778-a412-6ce44e6b70e7@earthlink.net>
References: <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8.ref@edison.tech>
 <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8@edison.tech>
 <8f7d6faf-fe58-4778-a412-6ce44e6b70e7@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <ac09e3d5-6a59-4040-ac78-6151b04b9b22@earthlink.net>

Probably not my last mistake this week :)

Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar

On 2/18/24 19:50, Bob Haskell wrote:
>
> Windshield wiper motor mounts?
>
> Bob Haskell
> Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
> On 2/18/24 18:58, Warthodson via Healeys wrote:
>> Can someone identify where these bolts are used on a Healey?
>> Thanks
>> Gary Hodson
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>
>> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys  http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
>>
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>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
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From chester3dog at gmail.com  Mon Feb 19 09:11:41 2024
From: chester3dog at gmail.com (Chester Threedog)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 10:11:41 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] Unusual bolts
In-Reply-To: <ac09e3d5-6a59-4040-ac78-6151b04b9b22@earthlink.net>
References: <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8.ref@edison.tech>
 <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8@edison.tech>
 <8f7d6faf-fe58-4778-a412-6ce44e6b70e7@earthlink.net>
 <ac09e3d5-6a59-4040-ac78-6151b04b9b22@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <CAFip1jesc0OOQHHoKfPV5XuW9hwjh3kTm_qi-=yOR3+9rJqpyg@mail.gmail.com>

Bugeye hood prop bolt.  moss 313-010

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 5:24?AM Bob Haskell <rchaskell at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Probably not my last mistake this week :)
>
> Bob Haskell
> Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
>
> On 2/18/24 19:50, Bob Haskell wrote:
>
> Windshield wiper motor mounts?
>
> Bob Haskell
> Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
>
> On 2/18/24 18:58, Warthodson via Healeys wrote:
>
> Can someone identify where these bolts are used on a Healey?
> Thanks
> Gary Hodson
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
> Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Mon Feb 19 09:24:57 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 08:24:57 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Unusual bolts
In-Reply-To: <67D9DCD9-7EE9-422A-9394-05F7532731D4@gmail.com>
References: <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8.ref@edison.tech>
 <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8@edison.tech>
 <7519e412-d90e-4f97-9d5b-fdf1977a7730@comcast.net>
 <CAPTa0B6C01wMv1AF5sOEbNdGaRpMt=7+-Q1QWL-LR2BZ8gcJZQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <67D9DCD9-7EE9-422A-9394-05F7532731D4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57723d0e-1392-4473-8617-5f65de25f58f@comcast.net>

Me too. I corresponded with him off-list; surprisingly, he was cordial 
and considerate (unlike his internet 'persona' at times).

On 2/18/2024 7:31 PM, richard mayor wrote:
> Oddly enough, I also miss Ed. ?The guy that used all those nonsensical 
> thingys.
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
>
>> On Feb 18, 2024, at 7:09 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Remember?when "Who Can Identify This Part" and "Friday Funnies" used 
>> to be regular features on this site?
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 9:02?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>     Off the top-of-my-head, they look like the T-bolts for bolting
>>     the seat frames to the floorboards.
>>
>>
>>     On 2/18/2024 3:58 PM, Warthodson via Healeys wrote:
>>>     Can someone identify where these bolts are used on a Healey?
>>>     Thanks
>>>     Gary Hodson
>>>
>>
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From manifold at telus.net  Mon Feb 19 10:30:42 2024
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 09:30:42 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
In-Reply-To: <6c4630f8-a964-44de-b3be-7b1bfb81f043@comcast.net>
References: <6c4630f8-a964-44de-b3be-7b1bfb81f043@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCBZkezKsKVmpE=gSJ1G1jnFHQ7RUXxmo-KeNifU0x1XFQ@mail.gmail.com>

Bob,

Is there a fan clutch available that will fit an Austin Healey? There is
very little space between the water pump and the radiator.

Harold

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:11?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

> Anyone fitted one to a Healey? I see they're available for various Brit
> cars, including Jags, Triumphs, etc.
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Mon Feb 19 11:58:51 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 13:58:51 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Unusual bolts
In-Reply-To: <57723d0e-1392-4473-8617-5f65de25f58f@comcast.net>
References: <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8.ref@edison.tech>
 <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8@edison.tech>
 <7519e412-d90e-4f97-9d5b-fdf1977a7730@comcast.net>
 <CAPTa0B6C01wMv1AF5sOEbNdGaRpMt=7+-Q1QWL-LR2BZ8gcJZQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <67D9DCD9-7EE9-422A-9394-05F7532731D4@gmail.com>
 <57723d0e-1392-4473-8617-5f65de25f58f@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B7jGF=Oav9sdefWTLFBbNCF5Wrwfu4NBKqqfnL0pOYUkA@mail.gmail.com>

Regarding Ed K:

While visiting Bob Brown in Chicago on the way to Conclave in MN I met Ed
as he wanted to take a picture of my car.
Though I had formed a somewhat negative opinion of him based upon his
online persona he was quite personable one to one.
Shows ta go ya'....

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 11:25?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

> Me too. I corresponded with him off-list; surprisingly, he was cordial and
> considerate (unlike his internet 'persona' at times).
>
> On 2/18/2024 7:31 PM, richard mayor wrote:
>
> Oddly enough, I also miss Ed.  The guy that used all those nonsensical
> thingys.
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Feb 18, 2024, at 7:09 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Remember when "Who Can Identify This Part" and "Friday Funnies" used to be
> regular features on this site?
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 9:02?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Off the top-of-my-head, they look like the T-bolts for bolting the seat
>> frames to the floorboards.
>>
>>
>> On 2/18/2024 3:58 PM, Warthodson via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> Can someone identify where these bolts are used on a Healey?
>> Thanks
>> Gary Hodson
>>
>>
>>
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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Mon Feb 19 16:41:45 2024
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 18:41:45 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Electric Motor in a Healey?
Message-ID: <CAGfzsZdaK+nDqUhmTHiQTr0QcSV3tiy=L4YSrDnTZcXhs9q03Q@mail.gmail.com>

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From bspidell at comcast.net  Mon Feb 19 17:06:20 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 16:06:20 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCBZkezKsKVmpE=gSJ1G1jnFHQ7RUXxmo-KeNifU0x1XFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6c4630f8-a964-44de-b3be-7b1bfb81f043@comcast.net>
 <CAFP1XCBZkezKsKVmpE=gSJ1G1jnFHQ7RUXxmo-KeNifU0x1XFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91c42690-9878-4314-b507-adc813b1ef6f@comcast.net>

I didn't see one. Moss has them for various Jags, Triumphs, MGs, etc. I 
was just wondering if someone managed to fit one to a Healey. Not sure 
if it would help hot running or not.

On 2/19/2024 9:30 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
> Bob,
>
> Is there a fan clutch available that will fit an Austin Healey? There 
> is very little space between the water pump and the radiator.
>
> Harold
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:11?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>     Anyone fitted one to a Healey? I see they're available for various
>     Brit
>     cars, including Jags, Triumphs, etc.
>
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From p.cquinn at outlook.com  Mon Feb 19 21:42:01 2024
From: p.cquinn at outlook.com (Patrick and Caroline Quinn)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 04:42:01 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Plate ID
In-Reply-To: <OSQPR01MB6430768527B27074C01C82758C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <OSQPR01MB6430768527B27074C01C82758C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <OSQPR01MB6430C1B157C480A32199E3BD8C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Hello

I am doing some research on a Healey. A real one, not an Austin-Healey.

Below is a number plate from the 1950s.

Would anyone know if this is a US plate?

Is CT short for Connecticut?

Thanks

Patrick Quinn

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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 19 23:53:55 2024
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (Richard Mayor)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 22:53:55 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Plate ID
In-Reply-To: <OSQPR01MB6430C1B157C480A32199E3BD8C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <OSQPR01MB6430768527B27074C01C82758C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
 <OSQPR01MB6430C1B157C480A32199E3BD8C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <218C3302-D023-4BB8-B06C-6F4E7B2712D7@gmail.com>

Pretty sure it is not a US plate. I think all US plates were standardized in size by the 1950s and that does not look like the correct size license plate.

 
Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com


> On Feb 19, 2024, at 8:42 PM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn <p.cquinn at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello
>  
> I am doing some research on a Healey. A real one, not an Austin-Healey.
>  
> Below is a number plate from the 1950s.
>  
> Would anyone know if this is a US plate?
>  
> Is CT short for Connecticut?
>  
> Thanks
>  
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From pdzwig at summaventures.com  Tue Feb 20 01:41:17 2024
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:41:17 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Plate ID
In-Reply-To: <OSQPR01MB6430C1B157C480A32199E3BD8C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <OSQPR01MB6430768527B27074C01C82758C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
 <OSQPR01MB6430C1B157C480A32199E3BD8C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
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Patrick,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Connecticut

and go down to the part covering the 40s and 50s. Hope that's helpful.

Peter



On 20/02/2024 04:42, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I am doing some research on a Healey. A real one, not an Austin-Healey.
> 
> Below is a number plate from the 1950s.
> 
> Would anyone know if this is a US plate?
> 
> Is CT short for Connecticut?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Patrick Quinn
> 
> 
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From p.cquinn at outlook.com  Tue Feb 20 02:08:32 2024
From: p.cquinn at outlook.com (Patrick and Caroline Quinn)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 09:08:32 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Plate ID
In-Reply-To: <8f192469-3645-45f6-977c-459da31dabbb@summaventures.com>
References: <OSQPR01MB6430768527B27074C01C82758C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
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Hello Peter

Thank you for that.

As much as you can believe what you read on Wikipedia, I am quite sure that it's a Connecticut plate from the early 1950s.

The car is a Healey with Czech built coachwork.

Best wishes

Patrick Quinn

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 7:41 PM
To: Patrick and Caroline Quinn <p.cquinn at outlook.com>; 'healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Plate ID

Patrick,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Connecticut

and go down to the part covering the 40s and 50s. Hope that's helpful.

Peter



On 20/02/2024 04:42, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I am doing some research on a Healey. A real one, not an Austin-Healey.
> 
> Below is a number plate from the 1950s.
> 
> Would anyone know if this is a US plate?
> 
> Is CT short for Connecticut?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Patrick Quinn
> 
> 
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From rchaskell at earthlink.net  Tue Feb 20 04:03:19 2024
From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 06:03:19 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Plate ID
In-Reply-To: <OSQPR01MB64306AC7F04F2AB568A7961E8C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <OSQPR01MB6430768527B27074C01C82758C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
 <OSQPR01MB6430C1B157C480A32199E3BD8C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
 <8f192469-3645-45f6-977c-459da31dabbb@summaventures.com>
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Message-ID: <ed9a68de-04bf-424d-a5ff-aa2c97c6657c@earthlink.net>

Patrick,

You might try asking Wayne Carini at F40 Motorsports in Connecticut. 
(www.f40.com).? I've never met Wayne, he has a television show called 
Chasing Classic Cars that I've watched.

Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar

On 2/20/24 04:08, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote:
> Hello Peter
>
> Thank you for that.
>
> As much as you can believe what you read on Wikipedia, I am quite sure that it's a Connecticut plate from the early 1950s.
>
> The car is a Healey with Czech built coachwork.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 7:41 PM
> To: Patrick and Caroline Quinn <p.cquinn at outlook.com>; 'healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Plate ID
>
> Patrick,
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Connecticut
>
> and go down to the part covering the 40s and 50s. Hope that's helpful.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> On 20/02/2024 04:42, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> I am doing some research on a Healey. A real one, not an Austin-Healey.
>>
>> Below is a number plate from the 1950s.
>>
>> Would anyone know if this is a US plate?
>>
>> Is CT short for Connecticut?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Patrick Quinn
>>
>>
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Tue Feb 20 04:54:58 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 06:54:58 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Plate ID
In-Reply-To: <OSQPR01MB6430C1B157C480A32199E3BD8C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
References: <OSQPR01MB6430768527B27074C01C82758C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
 <OSQPR01MB6430C1B157C480A32199E3BD8C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B5L1Cx0qqYn3mjnWJdFjGqOO-H=asfYCK9scotdtb9=Hg@mail.gmail.com>

Patrick--

Here's a link to an ebay sale of some 1956 Connecticut license plates which
look pretty similar to the one you picture:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/391908284515.
Apparently CT had plates front and back but yours looks pretty similar.
I'd bet the bottom of the two plates is probably for a parkway (PY?) toll.

Best--Michael Oritt


On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 12:08?AM Patrick and Caroline Quinn <
p.cquinn at outlook.com> wrote:

> Hello
>
>
>
> I am doing some research on a Healey. A real one, not an Austin-Healey.
>
>
>
> Below is a number plate from the 1950s.
>
>
>
> Would anyone know if this is a US plate?
>
>
>
> Is CT short for Connecticut?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Tue Feb 20 10:00:59 2024
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 17:00:59 -0000
Subject: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
In-Reply-To: <91c42690-9878-4314-b507-adc813b1ef6f@comcast.net>
References: <6c4630f8-a964-44de-b3be-7b1bfb81f043@comcast.net>
 <CAFP1XCBZkezKsKVmpE=gSJ1G1jnFHQ7RUXxmo-KeNifU0x1XFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <91c42690-9878-4314-b507-adc813b1ef6f@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000001da641e$62279a50$2676cef0$@alexarevel.plus.com>

 

This clutch?? Is that something that attaches to the existing fan? Probably had one on my last tintops but never thought about them. Anyhow, I was wondering if a so-called ?viscous fan? would be better. I recall having one on a European Ford Granada, years ago. Wasn?t thick at all?.I know there?s little room in there! Trick is to find one with right bolt holes?

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:06 AM
To: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net>
Cc: Healeys < >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys

 

I didn't see one. Moss has them for various Jags, Triumphs, MGs, etc. I was just wondering if someone managed to fit one to a Healey. Not sure if it would help hot running or not.

On 2/19/2024 9:30 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:

Bob, 

 

Is there a fan clutch available that will fit an Austin Healey? There is very little space between the water pump and the radiator.

 

Harold

 

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:11?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net> > wrote:

Anyone fitted one to a Healey? I see they're available for various Brit 
cars, including Jags, Triumphs, etc.

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From healeybruce at roadrunner.com  Tue Feb 20 13:16:13 2024
From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (healeybruce at roadrunner.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 12:16:13 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCBZkezKsKVmpE=gSJ1G1jnFHQ7RUXxmo-KeNifU0x1XFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6c4630f8-a964-44de-b3be-7b1bfb81f043@comcast.net>
 <CAFP1XCBZkezKsKVmpE=gSJ1G1jnFHQ7RUXxmo-KeNifU0x1XFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <022901da6439$a98e26f0$fcaa74d0$@roadrunner.com>

Harold, what would be the purpose of installing a fan clutch, assuming you can find one that will fit?  Do you really need to disconnect the fan so the engine warms up faster?  Once at operating temperature, the fan clutch is engaged; it won?t help a Healey run any cooler, which is generally our bigger concern.

 

Bruce Steele

1960 BN7

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Harold Manifold
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 9:31 AM
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys

 

Bob,

 

Is there a fan clutch available that will fit an Austin Healey? There is very little space between the water pump and the radiator.

 

Harold

 

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:11?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net> > wrote:

Anyone fitted one to a Healey? I see they're available for various Brit 
cars, including Jags, Triumphs, etc.
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From britishauto at gmail.com  Tue Feb 20 14:12:02 2024
From: britishauto at gmail.com (Jake V)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 16:12:02 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
In-Reply-To: <022901da6439$a98e26f0$fcaa74d0$@roadrunner.com>
References: <6c4630f8-a964-44de-b3be-7b1bfb81f043@comcast.net>
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Fan clutch really is a misnomer, it's a viscous coupling that prevents the
fan from spinning too fast.

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 4:09?PM healeybruce--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Harold, what would be the purpose of installing a fan clutch, assuming you
> can find one that will fit?  Do you really need to disconnect the fan so
> the engine warms up faster?  Once at operating temperature, the fan clutch
> is engaged; it won?t help a Healey run any cooler, which is generally our
> bigger concern.
>
>
>
> Bruce Steele
>
> 1960 BN7
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Harold
> Manifold
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 9:31 AM
> *To:* Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
>
>
> Is there a fan clutch available that will fit an Austin Healey? There is
> very little space between the water pump and the radiator.
>
>
>
> Harold
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:11?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Anyone fitted one to a Healey? I see they're available for various Brit
> cars, including Jags, Triumphs, etc.
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From manifold at telus.net  Tue Feb 20 14:40:54 2024
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:40:54 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
In-Reply-To: <CAACo9bBeXVMUwPBmDVC4R40FOF7EwWSdpipS3Zz4LQsTsUxjoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6c4630f8-a964-44de-b3be-7b1bfb81f043@comcast.net>
 <CAFP1XCBZkezKsKVmpE=gSJ1G1jnFHQ7RUXxmo-KeNifU0x1XFQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <022901da6439$a98e26f0$fcaa74d0$@roadrunner.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFP1XCAys62pR8Rkgno1+fbBrY=vSuX5pxLFn-xSFKZdixekzw@mail.gmail.com>

Bruce,

I will admit a thermal fan clutch is a nice to have and not a must have.
The biggest benefits are less engine noise and better economy (i.e. less HP
loss) when the clutch isn't engaged. As I mentioned previously I doubt one
exists that is thin enough to work in the limited space between the water
pump face and the radiator. If anyone finds one that fits a Healey please
pass on the information. Here are a couple of pictures of a typical thermal
fan clutch for reference.

Harold

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 1:12?PM Jake V <britishauto at gmail.com> wrote:

> Fan clutch really is a misnomer, it's a viscous coupling that prevents the
> fan from spinning too fast.
>
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 4:09?PM healeybruce--- via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Harold, what would be the purpose of installing a fan clutch, assuming
>> you can find one that will fit?  Do you really need to disconnect the fan
>> so the engine warms up faster?  Once at operating temperature, the fan
>> clutch is engaged; it won?t help a Healey run any cooler, which is
>> generally our bigger concern.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce Steele
>>
>> 1960 BN7
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Harold
>> Manifold
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 9:31 AM
>> *To:* Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
>> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there a fan clutch available that will fit an Austin Healey? There is
>> very little space between the water pump and the radiator.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harold
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:11?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone fitted one to a Healey? I see they're available for various Brit
>> cars, including Jags, Triumphs, etc.
>> _______________________________________________
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 20 14:42:51 2024
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 13:42:51 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Plate ID
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B5L1Cx0qqYn3mjnWJdFjGqOO-H=asfYCK9scotdtb9=Hg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <OSQPR01MB6430768527B27074C01C82758C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
 <OSQPR01MB6430C1B157C480A32199E3BD8C502@OSQPR01MB6430.apcprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>
 <CAPTa0B5L1Cx0qqYn3mjnWJdFjGqOO-H=asfYCK9scotdtb9=Hg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D9545C5F-C566-42BC-935C-CA81217C70A3@gmail.com>

I was wrong. It is a pre-1957 Connecticut license plate.  The standardized size did not come into play until 1957.


Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



> On Feb 20, 2024, at 3:54 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Patrick--
> 
> Here's a link to an ebay sale of some 1956 Connecticut license plates which look pretty similar to the one you picture:
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/391908284515.
> Apparently CT had plates front and back but yours looks pretty similar.
> I'd bet the bottom of the two plates is probably for a parkway (PY?) toll.
> 
> Best--Michael Oritt
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 12:08?AM Patrick and Caroline Quinn <p.cquinn at outlook.com <mailto:p.cquinn at outlook.com>> wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I am doing some research on a Healey. A real one, not an Austin-Healey.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Below is a number plate from the 1950s.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Would anyone know if this is a US plate?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Is CT short for Connecticut?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Patrick Quinn
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> <image001.png>
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Tue Feb 20 14:26:04 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 21:26:04 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
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There are actually at least 2 types of fan clutches.  Thermostatic and
viscous.
The thermostatic type engages as the temperature of the air passing over it
increases thus making the fan turn constantly when the radiator is hot.
The viscous type only drive the fan when running at relatively low engine
speeds thus reducing the horsepower required to drive the fan.
I  don't think either would be of much help with a standard fan but may be
an advantage if a large aftermarket fan was being used.

M

On Tue., Feb. 20, 2024, 8:58 p.m. healeybruce--- via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Harold, what would be the purpose of installing a fan clutch, assuming you
> can find one that will fit?  Do you really need to disconnect the fan so
> the engine warms up faster?  Once at operating temperature, the fan clutch
> is engaged; it won?t help a Healey run any cooler, which is generally our
> bigger concern.
>
>
>
> Bruce Steele
>
> 1960 BN7
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Harold
> Manifold
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 9:31 AM
> *To:* Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
>
>
> Is there a fan clutch available that will fit an Austin Healey? There is
> very little space between the water pump and the radiator.
>
>
>
> Harold
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:11?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Anyone fitted one to a Healey? I see they're available for various Brit
> cars, including Jags, Triumphs, etc.
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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Tue Feb 20 16:29:29 2024
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 15:29:29 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Plate ID
In-Reply-To: <8f192469-3645-45f6-977c-459da31dabbb@summaventures.com>
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Patrick -

If you look at the wikipedia list, That is a Connecticut plate issued
sometime between 1948-1951.

Cheers,

Alan

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 at 1:04?AM, Peter Dzwig via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Connecticut
>
> and go down to the part covering the 40s and 50s. Hope that's helpful.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> On 20/02/2024 04:42, Patrick and Caroline Quinn wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I am doing some research on a Healey. A real one, not an Austin-Healey.
> >
> > Below is a number plate from the 1950s.
> >
> > Would anyone know if this is a US plate?
> >
> > Is CT short for Connecticut?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Patrick Quinn
> >
> >
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>
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From healeybruce at roadrunner.com  Wed Feb 21 10:03:11 2024
From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (healeybruce at roadrunner.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:03:11 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
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Nice explanation, Michael.  

 

Bruce Steele

1960 BN7

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 1:26 PM
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys

 

There are actually at least 2 types of fan clutches.  Thermostatic and viscous.

The thermostatic type engages as the temperature of the air passing over it increases thus making the fan turn constantly when the radiator is hot. 

The viscous type only drive the fan when running at relatively low engine speeds thus reducing the horsepower required to drive the fan. 

I  don't think either would be of much help with a standard fan but may be an advantage if a large aftermarket fan was being used.

 

M

 

On Tue., Feb. 20, 2024, 8:58 p.m. healeybruce--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Harold, what would be the purpose of installing a fan clutch, assuming you can find one that will fit?  Do you really need to disconnect the fan so the engine warms up faster?  Once at operating temperature, the fan clutch is engaged; it won?t help a Healey run any cooler, which is generally our bigger concern.

 

Bruce Steele

1960 BN7

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Harold Manifold
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 9:31 AM
To: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net> >
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys

 

Bob,

 

Is there a fan clutch available that will fit an Austin Healey? There is very little space between the water pump and the radiator.

 

Harold

 

On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:11?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net> > wrote:

Anyone fitted one to a Healey? I see they're available for various Brit 
cars, including Jags, Triumphs, etc.
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Wed Feb 21 10:18:24 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:18:24 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
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There may be a third: I inherited my parent's 2000 Lincoln LS; it has a 
hydraulically-driven fan powered by a pump that is nearly identical to 
its power steering pump. Near as I can tell it has a bimetal valve that 
gates pressurized oil to the fan, which has a kind of turbine (it looks 
a bit like a clutch fan; well, I guess it is). The car would overheat at 
random and had to be towed a couple times; eventually, there was an SB 
and we replaced the 'clutch,' and it's worked OK ever since. I only 
recently learned why it had such a goofball setup: The early versions of 
the car had a wimpy alternator which couldn't supply enough power for an 
electric fan. Why didn't Lincoln just use a better alternator? Well, 
under the skin the car is essentially a Jag S-Type from when Ford owned 
Jaguar; this somehow seems like a very 'British' solution.

Aircraft engines, most of which have oil coolers, often have a 
'vernatherm' in the oil cooler circuit. It's bimetal, I think, and 
closes when the engine is cold so the oil can warm up quicker. I think 
some oil cooler systems in cars use something similar.

I asked about a fan clutch because the best solution I've found for a 
Healey overheating at idle was a SS flex fan, whose blades flatten at 
higher engine speed but would still offer some resistance at high speeds 
(but it was annoyingly noisy). A fan clutch /might /offer less 
resistance to airflow through the engine bay, but I haven't had much 
issue with cooling at highway speeds. Moss offers clutches for various 
Brit cars, so they do have a place apparently.



On 2/20/2024 1:26 PM, Michael Salter wrote:
> There are actually at least 2 types of fan clutches.? Thermostatic and 
> viscous.
> The thermostatic type engages as the temperature of the air passing 
> over it increases thus making the fan turn constantly when the 
> radiator is hot.
> The viscous type only drive the fan when running at relatively low 
> engine speeds thus reducing the horsepower required to drive the fan.
> I? don't think either would be of much help with a standard fan but 
> may be an advantage if a large aftermarket fan was being used.
>
> M
>
> On Tue., Feb. 20, 2024, 8:58 p.m. healeybruce--- via Healeys, 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     Harold, what would be the purpose of installing a fan clutch,
>     assuming you can find one that will fit?? Do you really need to
>     disconnect the fan so the engine warms up faster?? Once at
>     operating temperature, the fan clutch is engaged; it won?t help a
>     Healey run any cooler, which is generally our bigger concern.
>
>     Bruce Steele
>
>     1960 BN7
>
>     *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of
>     *Harold Manifold
>     *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 9:31 AM
>     *To:* Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
>     *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fan Clutch for Big Healeys
>
>     Bob,
>
>     Is there a fan clutch available that will fit an Austin Healey?
>     There is very little space between the water pump and the radiator.
>
>     Harold
>
>     On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 6:11?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
>     wrote:
>
>         Anyone fitted one to a Healey? I see they're available for
>         various Brit
>         cars, including Jags, Triumphs, etc.
>
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From emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Feb 23 12:13:19 2024
From: emmgeeteecee at yahoo.co.uk (David Lodge)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 19:13:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Unusual bolts
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B7jGF=Oav9sdefWTLFBbNCF5Wrwfu4NBKqqfnL0pOYUkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F05D486C-1188-495F-8B36-28691F2CCBA8.ref@edison.tech>
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 <57723d0e-1392-4473-8617-5f65de25f58f@comcast.net>
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 Seat belts to sill brackets?

    On Monday, 19 February 2024 at 11:02:41 GMT-8, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Regarding Ed K:
While visiting Bob Brown in Chicago on the way to Conclave in MN I met Ed as he wanted to take?a?picture of?my?car.??Though I had formed a somewhat negative opinion of him based upon his online persona he was quite personable one to one.Shows ta go ya'....
Best--Michael Oritt
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 11:25?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

  Me too. I corresponded with him off-list; surprisingly, he was cordial and considerate (unlike his internet 'persona' at times).
 
 On 2/18/2024 7:31 PM, richard mayor wrote:
  
 Oddly enough, I also miss Ed.? The guy that used all those nonsensical thingys. 
    Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com 
  
  
 
 On Feb 18, 2024, at 7:09 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote: 
   Remember?when "Who Can Identify This Part" and "Friday Funnies" used to be regular features on this site? 
  Best--Michael Oritt?  
  On Sun, Feb 18, 2024 at 9:02?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
  
  Off the top-of-my-head, they look like the T-bolts for bolting the seat frames to the floorboards.
 
 
 On 2/18/2024 3:58 PM, Warthodson via Healeys wrote:
  
 Can someone identify where these bolts are used on a Healey? Thanks? Gary Hodson? 
 
  
 
   
   
 
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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Mon Feb 26 07:00:31 2024
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 09:00:31 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Plate ID
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Patrick,

You may find this info on the Parkway Toll plate useful:
https://www.ctplates.info/ct_toll.html. There is also a Connecticut License
Plate Facebook page that might be able to give you further info:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/376940245740527

Cheers,
Rick Neville aka HealeyRick

On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 2:21?AM Richard Mayor via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Pretty sure it is not a US plate. I think all US plates were standardized
> in size by the 1950s and that does not look like the correct size license
> plate.
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
> On Feb 19, 2024, at 8:42 PM, Patrick and Caroline Quinn <
> p.cquinn at outlook.com> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> I am doing some research on a Healey. A real one, not an Austin-Healey.
>
> Below is a number plate from the 1950s.
>
> Would anyone know if this is a US plate?
>
> Is CT short for Connecticut?
>
> Thanks
>
> Patrick Quinn
>
> <image001.png>
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From ynotink at msn.com  Mon Feb 26 21:41:09 2024
From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 04:41:09 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
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Bearing wear can also be caused by excessive oil pressure. 65psi sounds a little high. At some point it acts like a water jet?
________________________________
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com <alfuller194 at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2024 7:03 PM
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Cc: 'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE' <ynotink at msn.com>; 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil


Well, yeah ? big-end bearing wear would do it, too!  Good luck on locating the source.



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All the best,



Al Fuller



From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2024 10:57 AM
To: alfuller194 at gmail.com
Cc: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil



Al--



No, not a lot of oil is being pumped out of the rocker shaft.

I suspect bottom end wear.



Best--Michael



On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 1:23?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com<mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com>> wrote:

Michael ? is it possible you are losing oil pressure from the rocker shaft?



It is very easy to check ? just warm up the car and then run it with the rocker cover off. The oil should seep out of the rockers, but a worn shaft will spray instead of seep.  I once had one that shot oil far enough up to hit the underside of the bonnet!



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All the best,



Al Fuller



From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2024 7:16 AM
To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com<mailto:ynotink at msn.com>>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil



I agree with Bill.



I installed the DW steel gasket in about 2003 and 60K so or miles ago when I also put in upgraded internals and the DW alloy head, etc. I have not removed or retorqued the head since then.  In the last year or so a very slight coolant weepage (I can't even call it a leakage) developed on the right side of the head/block joint between cylinders 2 and 3 when starting from cold, which quickly disappeared on warm-up.



My main complaining symptom is a reduction in oil pressure both hot and cold from about 65/30 psi at warm revs and idle to no more than 40/15 psi commensurate. Though I renewed the oil pump and replaced the few bearings I could with the engine in situ a few years back this was of little effect.  I know there are those who say that oil pressure is overrated and our Healeys can live happily without it but I'm a bit on the compulsive side and can't keep my eyes on the road and off that needle, so off with her head, and more as over the winter the engine is being disassembled and line bored, the crank and internals crack-checked and refreshed as necessary, etc.



Though the DW steel gasket is supposedly reusable I am, with reckless abandon, going to install the unused spare steel head gasket which has lain under the boot Armacord in its original packaging for the last 20 years.  I feel the car has given me good and reliable service over these many miles and has earned the right to demand this splurge on my part.



More news as it happens--Michael Oritt



On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 6:38?AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com<mailto:ynotink at msn.com>> wrote:

I recommend the MLS gasket that Denis Welch supplies. It requires a very smooth finish, but if you can get that it provides a very good seal. I had the chronic problem of a leaky head gasket on my 100 And their gasket solved it.



Bill Lawrence

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> on behalf of jvwojcik at comcast.net<mailto:jvwojcik at comcast.net> <jvwojcik at comcast.net<mailto:jvwojcik at comcast.net>>
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 10:41 PM
To: 'Roger Grace' <roggrace at telus.net<mailto:roggrace at telus.net>>; 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil



Hi Roger, If your current fix fails, no need to despair.  After a 10 year chase to stop oil from getting into the coolant in my BN7 using multiple head gaskets and the Southern Carburetor drilling kit, etc., Hardblok

https://www.hardblok.com/



did the job perfectly. Attached is an image of where my builder put it, rolling the block to place the product where he deduced the seepage came through. In this specific use, I do not think there was much change in heat transfer. It worked for years, then I sold the car but suspect it is still doing the job. Jim Wojcik, MN





From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of Roger Grace
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 2:41 PM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil





Up date.

So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that Barrs leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)

After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still glycol present.

Now have head off.

Nothing really obvious.

Suggestions where/what to look for ?

Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.

Thoughts

rg







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From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net<mailto:roggrace at telus.net>>
Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15?PM
Subject: Glycol in oil
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>



67 BJ8

Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.

Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cover and near oil filler.

Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr

Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi

Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no water found ... assume gets burnt off ?

Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being removed. Silly me.

So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area  that others may have encountered ?

 Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?

Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.

Remove head ?

Thoughts and ideas please

rg



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