[Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure

Bob Spidell bspidell at comcast.net
Sat Feb 10 21:27:57 MST 2024


If you choose performance over originality/authenticity, why go half-way?

https://browncarguy.com/2023/05/08/classic-austin-healey-3000-100-6-converted-to-electric/



On 2/10/2024 11:38 AM, HealeyRick wrote:
> Now, you've gone too far, Bob.  An electric Healey? Bleah!  As you 
> say, to each their own. There's plenty of room in the Healey tent for 
> concours, modified, big Healeys, little Healeys, Nash Healeys, Healey 
> boats, etc. Can't we all just get along? 😀
>
> Rick
>
> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:22 PM Bob Spidell via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     The most rational, pragmatic swap at this point would be to an
>     electric motor and batteries; done right, it would blow the doors
>     off an LS or Coyote swap (up to a 100MPH or so, I wouldn't push a
>     Healey chassis much past that, for long anyway-BTDT). How many
>     owners do more than day trips anyway (my days of 5K mile trips
>     are, unfortunately, in the past).
>
>     I wanted a big V8-powered car with all the modern improvements, so
>     I bought a Mustang GT and left my Healeys as Austins (Jensens)
>     un-mutated, and without the 20-50% drop in market value* (my
>     survivors will have to sell my Healeys someday). 475HP--480 if I
>     could get 93-octane--disks all around (Brembos in front), electric
>     throttle and steering (several modes), 19x9/10 wheels with
>     Michelin Pilot Sport 4ses, IRS, MagneRide and Steeda suspension
>     upgrades (the IRS is a bit shaky); 0-60 under 5s (supposedly; I'm
>     not good enough and the A10s are quicker). Bigger and heavier; I
>     reckon a Nasty Boy would take me on a narrow twisty, but on the
>     sweepers and straights it's sayonara. The Mustang hauls ass, and
>     it's fun, but the Austin-Healeys are simply more satisfying to
>     drive--by far--warts and all.
>
>     Disclaimer: I am very much an "It's your car, do what you want
>     with it" person. I've made small mods to my cars: Pertonix
>     Ignitors in both; taller rear-end for highway driveability, Texas
>     Cooler with shroud in the BJ8 but I never have, and never will,
>     understand why people buy a car they don't actually want just to
>     change it (owners with broken/missing engines who think 'Why not?'
>     I can see). Why not buy a Saxon and build it up the way you want
>     it from scratch? Oh, and for the record, I don't much care for
>     breast implants either; just not the same.
>
>     * Just my observations from BaT, FB, mailing lists, etc.; I've yet
>     to see a Nasty Boy cross the block at B-J or Mecums--doen't mean
>     it hasn't happened--but the muscle car 'restomods' with SBCs,
>     LSes, etc. are a dime-a-dozen and, IMO, not particularly unique or
>     imaginative (they do have garish paint jobs though).
>
>
>
>
>     On 2/9/2024 10:25 PM, Chris Scholz via Healeys wrote:
>>     I love my LS1 swap.  It was a lot of work.  Aluminum dual passage
>>     Wizard radiator with 15” spal fan-I can drive in a parade at 110
>>     heat index and car stays right at 195 degrees.  Lots of work to
>>     get the alternator to fit-I modified a bracket from a Jeep
>>     wrangler LS swap kit.   Everything barely fit
>>     longitudinally-there is one inch between the electric radiator
>>     fan and my water pump.   Had to cut the steering shaft and u
>>     joint.  Works great.
>>     Like Rick, I have the stock 3.55 Healey rear with a quaife
>>     limited slip diff and it works perfectly.  72” Daytona wire
>>     wheels with 205 wide tires.   Lowered the front spring perches
>>     -my front was so much lighter it was up in the air by 2-3”.  It
>>     rides and handles so well.  My car was a 1959 100-6 so it wasn’t
>>     worth as much stock as a BJ8.  I feel my value went up.
>>     I love my reliability and the torque is amazing.  Car is so much
>>     fun to slowly cruise and then hit the gas and go.  I would never
>>     go back to the heavy iron block.  I feel this an aluminum V8
>>     would have been Healey’s first choice if GM would have worked
>>     with him.
>>
>>     Sent from my iPhone
>>     Chris Scholz OD
>>
>>>     On Feb 9, 2024, at 7:58 PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>>>     <mailto:healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     
>>>     A V8 swap is nothing to be undertaken lightly. It's not as
>>>     simple as "dropping in a V8". That's the easy part, mostly
>>>     focusing on making engine and transmission mounts and cutting
>>>     away pieces of the footwells so the motor will fit with the
>>>     exhaust headers in place.  It's all the other stuff you need to
>>>     do that will really add the work. New electrical system,
>>>     radiator, upgraded brakes, fuel system, transmission shifter,
>>>     etc, etc. It's worth it in the end if you want a Healey/Cobra,
>>>     but you'll also knock off about 30 percent of your car's value
>>>     or more.  You can see the work I had to do to put a Ford 5.0L
>>>     and 5 speed transmission into my BJ7 here:
>>>     http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?13,8264 The Ford 5.0 is
>>>     narrower than the Chevy LS so less body cutting to do, but not a
>>>     huge difference. LS motors are more likely to be found in a
>>>     junkyard with low mileage now and with your brother a GM
>>>     mechanic, would be very helpful.  I did about 50-75% of the swap
>>>     myself, except for the engine rebuild and body fabrication. My
>>>     car has 350 hp and I run the stock rear end with 3.55 gears and
>>>     Dayton 72 spoke wires.  Much more power than that and those
>>>     parts will start braking.  A good engine swap is really a joy,
>>>     but if you do a bad one it will be a nightmare forever. Chris
>>>     did a really nice swap with his LS but he can speak to how much
>>>     work it was.
>>>
>>>     My first choice if you don't have that "Need for Speed" would be
>>>     to try a replacement Healey 6.
>>>
>>>     Best of Luck,
>>>     Rick
>>>
>>>     On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 2:11 PM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Funny you should suggest a v8 replacement.  Chris just made
>>>         that suggestion to install an LS1 with GM Trans.  My Bother
>>>         is a retired GM mechanic, and he agrees.  Did you do the
>>>         exchange?  What engine trans etc. did you use?  All options
>>>         are on the table.
>>>
>>>         Bob
>>>
>>>         *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>>>         *Sent:* Friday, February 9, 2024 1:32 PM
>>>         *To:* rfbegani at gmail.com
>>>         *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net
>>>         *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] BJ8 1967 Engine Rebuild failure
>>>
>>>         Sorry to hear this Bob. What you've been told so far seems
>>>         correct. Without the main bearing caps you're in a tough
>>>         spot. Maybe trying to find a BJ8 block or a rebuildable BJ8
>>>         motor is the best of a bad group of choices.  Too bad, I
>>>         gave away a bare block with caps from a BJ7 a few years ago
>>>         for a donation to our club charity.  I'd put a wanted ad in
>>>         the club magazines and Healey forums, Facebook pages and
>>>         hope someone out there might have one. Try Hemphills, Healey
>>>         Surgeons, David Nock, maybe they have one that needs
>>>         rebuilding somewhere. Or do what I did and put a V8 in there!
>>>
>>>         Best of luck,
>>>
>>>         Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"
>>>
>>>         On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:12 AM <rfbegani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>             Gentlemen:
>>>
>>>             I arrived back to Florida in May and decide to drive my
>>>             67 Austin-Healey. Drove it a mile and heard clanking
>>>             engine, looked at the oil pressure, It was O! Instead of
>>>             stooping to have towed home, I drove it back slowly. 
>>>             Last month, I dropped the pan and started to remove the
>>>             rod and crank caps and bearings.  My mechanic friend
>>>             said you got lucky the crank may only need polishing and
>>>             new bearings.  So, I packed and marked each of the main
>>>             bearing caps, bolts, and bearings along with piston rods
>>>             and caps in individual plastic bags. Then packed them
>>>             into a larger plastic bag which was put under the
>>>             workbench near the garbage. We towed the car to Mikes
>>>             garage so he could pull and disassemble the engine.
>>>             Tuesday, he asked me to bring the parts I had removed
>>>             from the engine so he would have everything in one
>>>             place.  I looked around but could not find this black
>>>             plastic bag and then remembered it got pitched in the
>>>             garbage. So, I am now up the famous creek and am asking
>>>             this group what I can do?
>>>
>>>              1. I am told the engine is finished because the Main
>>>                 Bearing caps are not available and even if you could
>>>                 find them, they would need to be line bored on the
>>>                 engine.
>>>              2. I am told that finding an engine block for a 3000
>>>                 with original main bearing caps is almost impossible.
>>>              3. Finding an engine to be rebuild might be possible.
>>>
>>>             My engine was rebuilt 6000 miles with years ago
>>>             everything new, so I would like to find a way of fixing
>>>             the existing engine, if possible.
>>>
>>>             Please give me your advice.
>>>
>>>             Best regards,
>>>
>>>             Bob Begani
>>>
>>>             67 Austin-Healey BJ8
>>>
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