From manifold at telus.net  Wed Jan  3 10:15:17 2024
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2024 09:15:17 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Synchro/Baulk Ring Question
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCBMnTK6LzU+YSpTnhfXNOHyPg_fCAx8doODCahTZCY5JQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello and Happy New Year,

I have just disassembled my rebuilt side shift transmission after only
2,000 miles to deal with a problem shifting from 4th to 3rd. The synchro
rings were brand new and supplied by Denis Welch. It appears the synchro
ring has worn prematurely. There is no sign of any problems with the mating
tapered hub on the gear.

There is nothing obvious why the 3/4 synchro was not working properly. Is
there a specification for the minimum gap between the synchro ring and the
face of the mating gear? A new synchro ring is on order. What all should I
check to ensure the problem doesn't repeat itself?

Thanks... Harold
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From stmiller96 at hotmail.com  Wed Jan  3 12:49:10 2024
From: stmiller96 at hotmail.com (S and T Miller)
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2024 19:49:10 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Synchro/Baulk Ring Question
Message-ID: <PH7P221MB1007BBA09D5FD95F158E09F6D460A@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Toughen up the mating surfaces with say 150 grit sand paper.  Gives it some tooth. It gets smooth over time. John Twist told me that tip and it works great.

Shawn



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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2024 09:15:17 -0800
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Hello and Happy New Year,

I have just disassembled my rebuilt side shift transmission after only
2,000 miles to deal with a problem shifting from 4th to 3rd. The synchro
rings were brand new and supplied by Denis Welch. It appears the synchro
ring has worn prematurely. There is no sign of any problems with the mating
tapered hub on the gear.

There is nothing obvious why the 3/4 synchro was not working properly. Is
there a specification for the minimum gap between the synchro ring and the
face of the mating gear? A new synchro ring is on order. What all should I
check to ensure the problem doesn't repeat itself?

Thanks... Harold

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From bspidell at comcast.net  Thu Jan  4 12:02:16 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2024 11:02:16 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT
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Message-ID: <b4b0c19f-345b-4415-8a46-2b048a836575@comcast.net>

I see this was a N/S at $92K 'reserve not met.'? Apparently, owner still 
thinks he deserves a 'real 100M' (minus correct chassis, carburetors, 
distributor, ...) price.

$92K would be a proper price for a really nice BN2.

bs


On 12/28/2023 5:41 AM, josef-eckert at t-online.de wrote:
>
> So its a rebuilt BN1 and one used parts of a BN2 (100M) to complete 
> it. At the end the one who repuilt it decided to swap the original VIN 
> tag of the BN1 against the one of the perhaps scrapped 100M he used 
> the parts of for his rebuild.
>
> Josef Eckert
>
> Germany
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT
>
> Datum: 2023-12-28T13:23:57+0100
>
> Von: "S and T Miller" <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
>
> An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>, 
> "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>
> The car on offer does have some valid M parts. Vin tag, cockpit trim, 
> boot. The engine I'd put a question mark next to because of the repro 
> tag, possibly incorrect carbs and incorrect distributor. I'm not 
> really familiar with original cold air boxes, but it did appear old.
> I also felt IMO that the bonnet looked suspiciously clean and fresh. 
> The boot showed no evidence of the prop mount being removed and the 
> boot itself showed some signs of aging prior to restoration (namely 
> some pitting). I can't say that same about the bonnet in terms of the 
> aging. The area where the numbers are stamped has a support behind it. 
> So in theory the number could be cut out of an original bonnet and 
> grafted into another new bonnet, but this is just speculation and 
> would take carefully scutiny to determine.
> The Millers
>
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a 
> test drive."
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* josef-eckert at t-online.de <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2023 2:58 PM
> *To:* S and T Miller <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>; HealeyRick 
> <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* AW: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT
>
> To understand it. What is the difference between this 100M car on 
> offer and a 100 BN1 modified with a 100 Le Mans kit, which has been 
> given a different identity through a swapped chassis number?
>
> For me both cars are very similar.
>
> Josef Eckert
>
> Germany
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT
>
> Datum: 2023-12-27T20:48:57+0100
>
> Von: "S and T Miller" <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
>
> An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>
> Very true. From talking with Mike, I really don't think he initially 
> knew about the chassis and possible motor/ carb questions. He really 
> doesn't have a good understanding of Healeys. And I even can 
> understand to a point that he might be trying to even convince himself 
> that it might be more than it actually is. But how he has represented 
> it after receiving a good assessment,? just sits a bit wrong with me.
> Anyway it may never be known who or when the "conversion" took place. 
> But the idea that the front cross bracing was bent to look like a M 
> cam was installed, and the two under the dash BN1 OD relay holes (4) 
> being so carefully concealed, tells me someone was trying to make it 
> look legit.
> And I quess it just will be determined by the hammer price how much of 
> it really matters. It is a sharp looking car.
> The Millers
>
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a 
> test drive."
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2023 11:57 AM
> *To:* S and T Miller <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* bspidell at comcast.net <bspidell at comcast.net>; 
> healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT
> Interesting question about misrepresentation. Who misrepresented what 
> to whom? Did the restorer misrepresent a 100M with a BN1 frame and 
> possible replacement motor to the original buyer who was clueless or 
> was it the original buyer that was doing the misrepresenting? There's 
> probably some grist for a lawyer's mill in all this. (retired lawyer, 
> I can't help thinking this way) Maybe I should start one of those "The 
> Healey Lawyer" columns in the /Marque?/
> //
> /Rick Neville, aka "HealeyRick"/
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:41?AM S and T Miller 
> <stmiller96 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Bob, I agree with you. And it seems he is trying to cast some
>     doubt on it being a BN1 chassis. Saying the firewall is a
>     combination of both BN1 and BN2 is plain false. Since I was the
>     one who showed him in person why it was a BN1 chassis he wanted to
>     use my name saying we "believe" its a BN1 chassis,? and I replied
>     that "believe" doesn't categorize my opinion. That everything
>     points to being a BN1 chassis and nothing to a BN2.
>     Intesting note on the added restoration photos, #311 clearly shows
>     the cut out BN1 gearbox mount in the restoration photo. Odd it is
>     on a painted frame, but the BN2 one must have been welded in
>     later. I'd thought maybe it was of a different frame, but the
>     front frame extensions are missing in the pictured one as we'll,
>     so probably not.
>     I realize he is trying to sell a car that he bought that someone
>     misrepresented to him,? but I kinda feel not so great about his
>     representation of the car on BAT. Again it is a nice car overall.
>
>     Message: 2
>     Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2023 03:45:57 -0800
>     From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
>     To: healeys at autox.team.net
>     Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT
>     Message-ID: <229b7fa6-3b3a-4221-b587-227de3ae0c2b at comcast.net>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
>     The expos? of the incorrect frame isn't stated in the text, but buried
>     in the video according to a commenter (I didn't watch it). It
>     appears to
>     me the seller is attempting to straddle an ethical fence, apparently
>     with BaT's blessing
>     The Millers
>
>     "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a
>     test drive."
>
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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Thu Jan  4 19:58:44 2024
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2024 21:58:44 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT
In-Reply-To: <b4b0c19f-345b-4415-8a46-2b048a836575@comcast.net>
References: <PH7P221MB10073A1F942518655973C117D49FA@PH7P221MB1007.NAMP221.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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He is a dealer and we don't know what he paid for the car. Maybe he's just
trying to avoid taking a loss.

Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 3:36?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

> I see this was a N/S at $92K 'reserve not met.'  Apparently, owner still
> thinks he deserves a 'real 100M' (minus correct chassis, carburetors,
> distributor, ...) price.
>
> $92K would be a proper price for a really nice BN2.
>
> bs
>
>
> On 12/28/2023 5:41 AM, josef-eckert at t-online.de wrote:
>
> So its a rebuilt BN1 and one used parts of a BN2 (100M) to complete it. At
> the end the one who repuilt it decided to swap the original VIN tag of the
> BN1 against the one of the perhaps scrapped 100M he used the parts of for
> his rebuild.
>
>
>
> Josef Eckert
>
> Germany
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT
>
> Datum: 2023-12-28T13:23:57+0100
>
> Von: "S and T Miller" <stmiller96 at hotmail.com> <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
>
> An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
> <josef-eckert at t-online.de> <josef-eckert at t-online.de>, "HealeyRick"
> <healeyrik at gmail.com> <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The car on offer does have some valid M parts. Vin tag, cockpit trim,
> boot. The engine I'd put a question mark next to because of the repro tag,
> possibly incorrect carbs and incorrect distributor. I'm not really familiar
> with original cold air boxes, but it did appear old.
> I also felt IMO that the bonnet looked suspiciously clean and fresh. The
> boot showed no evidence of the prop mount being removed and the boot itself
> showed some signs of aging prior to restoration (namely some pitting). I
> can't say that same about the bonnet in terms of the aging. The area where
> the numbers are stamped has a support behind it. So in theory the number
> could be cut out of an original bonnet and grafted into another new bonnet,
> but this is just speculation and would take carefully scutiny to
> determine.
>
>
> The Millers
>
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
> drive."
> ------------------------------
> *From:* josef-eckert at t-online.de <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
> <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2023 2:58 PM
> *To:* S and T Miller <stmiller96 at hotmail.com> <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>;
> HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
> <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* AW: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT
>
>
> To understand it. What is the difference between this 100M car on offer
> and a 100 BN1 modified with a 100 Le Mans kit, which has been given a
> different identity through a swapped chassis number?
>
> For me both cars are very similar.
>
>
>
> Josef Eckert
>
> Germany
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT
>
> Datum: 2023-12-27T20:48:57+0100
>
> Von: "S and T Miller" <stmiller96 at hotmail.com> <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
>
> An: "HealeyRick" <healeyrik at gmail.com> <healeyrik at gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Very true. From talking with Mike, I really don't think he initially knew
> about the chassis and possible motor/ carb questions. He really doesn't
> have a good understanding of Healeys. And I even can understand to a point
> that he might be trying to even convince himself that it might be more than
> it actually is. But how he has represented it after receiving a good
> assessment,  just sits a bit wrong with me.
>
> Anyway it may never be known who or when the "conversion" took place. But
> the idea that the front cross bracing was bent to look like a M cam was
> installed, and the two under the dash BN1 OD relay holes (4) being so
> carefully concealed, tells me someone was trying to make it look legit.
>
> And I quess it just will be determined by the hammer price how much of it
> really matters. It is a sharp looking car.
>
>
> The Millers
>
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
> drive."
> ------------------------------
> *From:* HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> <healeyrik at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2023 11:57 AM
> *To:* S and T Miller <stmiller96 at hotmail.com> <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
> *Cc:* bspidell at comcast.net <bspidell at comcast.net> <bspidell at comcast.net>;
> healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT
>
> Interesting question about misrepresentation. Who misrepresented what to
> whom? Did the restorer misrepresent a 100M with a BN1 frame and possible
> replacement motor to the original buyer who was clueless or was it the
> original buyer that was doing the misrepresenting? There's probably some
> grist for a lawyer's mill in all this. (retired lawyer, I can't help
> thinking this way) Maybe I should start one of those "The Healey Lawyer"
> columns in the *Marque?*
>
> *Rick Neville, aka "HealeyRick"*
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:41?AM S and T Miller <stmiller96 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Bob, I agree with you. And it seems he is trying to cast some doubt on it
> being a BN1 chassis. Saying the firewall is a combination of both BN1 and
> BN2 is plain false. Since I was the one who showed him in person why it was
> a BN1 chassis he wanted to use my name saying we "believe" its a BN1
> chassis,  and I replied that "believe" doesn't categorize my opinion. That
> everything points to being a BN1 chassis and nothing to a BN2.
> Intesting note on the added restoration photos, #311 clearly shows the cut
> out BN1 gearbox mount in the restoration photo. Odd it is on a painted
> frame, but the BN2 one must have been welded in later. I'd thought maybe it
> was of a different frame, but the front frame extensions are missing in the
> pictured one as we'll, so probably not.
>
> I realize he is trying to sell a car that he bought that someone
> misrepresented to him,  but I kinda feel not so great about his
> representation of the car on BAT. Again it is a nice car overall.
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2023 03:45:57 -0800
> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
> To: healeys at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100M Back on BaT
> Message-ID: <229b7fa6-3b3a-4221-b587-227de3ae0c2b at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> The expos? of the incorrect frame isn't stated in the text, but buried
> in the video according to a commenter (I didn't watch it). It appears to
> me the seller is attempting to straddle an ethical fence, apparently
> with BaT's blessing
>
> The Millers
>
> "Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test
> drive."
>
>
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sat Jan  6 11:13:21 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:13:21 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BN2 at Mecum
Message-ID: <5bcb5285-dcc6-46b6-924b-bb84b127a86e@comcast.net>

Just happened to catch this on the Mecum Kissimmee auction. Has louvred 
bonnet, but apparently not claimed to be a 'genuine factory M.' Sold for 
$40K (where's my 'crying-in-my-beer' emoji?).

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From roggrace at telus.net  Sun Jan  7 13:40:47 2024
From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2024 12:40:47 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
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References: <CALPtYiN8VYpkvp5fS_PzijO_tz=TmfD9F8i-94dGFia+V3n0JA@mail.gmail.com>
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Up date.
So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that Barrs
leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)
After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still glycol
present.
Now have head off.
Nothing really obvious.
Suggestions where/what to look for ?
Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.
Thoughts
rg



---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net>
Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15?PM
Subject: Glycol in oil
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>


67 BJ8
Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.
Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cover
and near oil filler.
Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr
Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi
Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no
water found ... assume gets burnt off ?
Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently
installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being
removed. Silly me.
So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area
that others may have encountered ?
 Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?
Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.
Remove head ?
Thoughts and ideas please
rg
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From rchaskell at earthlink.net  Sun Jan  7 14:53:54 2024
From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2024 16:53:54 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
In-Reply-To: <CALPtYiNOiG5mMFxQzu8nnvLoZ8B5Emi6VWsbnFcQOQj5gCDFXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALPtYiN8VYpkvp5fS_PzijO_tz=TmfD9F8i-94dGFia+V3n0JA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9c3891ac-5de7-4ee1-8565-f5f256980ed9@earthlink.net>

Pressure test the cooling system. Would have to be done with the head 
installed.

Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar

On 1/7/24 15:40, Roger Grace wrote:
>
> Up date.
> So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that 
> Barrs leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)
> After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still 
> glycol present.
> Now have head off.
> Nothing really obvious.
> Suggestions where/what to look for ?
> Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.
> Thoughts
> rg
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Roger Grace* <roggrace at telus.net>
> Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15?PM
> Subject: Glycol in oil
> To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>
> 67 BJ8
> Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.
> Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve 
> cover and near oil filler.
> Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr
> Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi
> Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting 
> no water found ... assume gets burnt off ?
> Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently 
> installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being 
> removed. Silly me.
> So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit 
> area? that others may have encountered ?
> ?Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?
> Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.
> Remove head ?
> Thoughts and ideas please
> rg
>
>
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Sun Jan  7 15:32:53 2024
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2024 17:32:53 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
In-Reply-To: <CALPtYiNOiG5mMFxQzu8nnvLoZ8B5Emi6VWsbnFcQOQj5gCDFXA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <008d01da41b9$74e4fc50$5eaef4f0$@sympatico.ca>

Roger,  Mike Salter and I rebuilt my BT7 engine a few years ago (I pulled it, Mike did the internals and I did the externals and put the engine back in).  We had a bad problem with serious coolant leaks right across  the head, and that was after the block and head had been to the machine shop and checked for any distortion.  It turned out to be the head gasket.  It was a new one that came with the Moss head gasket set, but it failed completely.  I paid out big dollars for an upgraded head gasket and the problem was cured.  I have about 3500 miles on it now.

 

Regards, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Grace
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 3:41 PM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil

 

 

Up date.

So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that Barrs leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)

After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still glycol present.

Now have head off.

Nothing really obvious.

Suggestions where/what to look for ?

Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.

Thoughts 

rg

 

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net <mailto:roggrace at telus.net> >
Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15?PM
Subject: Glycol in oil
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

 

67 BJ8

Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.

Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cover and near oil filler.

Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr

Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi

Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no water found ... assume gets burnt off ?

Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being removed. Silly me.

So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area  that others may have encountered ?

 Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?

Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.

Remove head ?

Thoughts and ideas please

rg

 

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From jvwojcik at comcast.net  Sun Jan  7 15:41:44 2024
From: jvwojcik at comcast.net (jvwojcik at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2024 16:41:44 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
In-Reply-To: <CALPtYiNOiG5mMFxQzu8nnvLoZ8B5Emi6VWsbnFcQOQj5gCDFXA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Roger, If your current fix fails, no need to despair.  After a 10 year chase to stop oil from getting into the coolant in my BN7 using multiple head gaskets and the Southern Carburetor drilling kit, etc., Hardblok
https://www.hardblok.com/
 
did the job perfectly. Attached is an image of where my builder put it, rolling the block to place the product where he deduced the seepage came through. In this specific use, I do not think there was much change in heat transfer. It worked for years, then I sold the car but suspect it is still doing the job. Jim Wojcik, MN
 
 
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Grace
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 2:41 PM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
 
 
Up date.
So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that Barrs leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)
After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still glycol present.
Now have head off.
Nothing really obvious.
Suggestions where/what to look for ?
Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.
Thoughts 
rg
 
 
 
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net <mailto:roggrace at telus.net> >
Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15?PM
Subject: Glycol in oil
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
 
67 BJ8
Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.
Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cover and near oil filler.
Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr
Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi
Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no water found ... assume gets burnt off ?
Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being removed. Silly me.
So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area  that others may have encountered ?
 Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?
Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.
Remove head ?
Thoughts and ideas please
rg
 
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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Sun Jan  7 16:22:34 2024
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2024 18:22:34 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
In-Reply-To: <CALPtYiNOiG5mMFxQzu8nnvLoZ8B5Emi6VWsbnFcQOQj5gCDFXA@mail.gmail.com>
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If there's no crack in the head and the head gasket seal is ok, it's
probably time to start looking for a crack in the block.

Rick Neville aka HealeyRick

On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 4:35?PM Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net> wrote:

>
> Up date.
> So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that Barrs
> leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)
> After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still glycol
> present.
> Now have head off.
> Nothing really obvious.
> Suggestions where/what to look for ?
> Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.
> Thoughts
> rg
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net>
> Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15?PM
> Subject: Glycol in oil
> To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>
> 67 BJ8
> Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.
> Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cover
> and near oil filler.
> Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr
> Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi
> Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no
> water found ... assume gets burnt off ?
> Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently
> installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being
> removed. Silly me.
> So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area
> that others may have encountered ?
>  Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?
> Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.
> Remove head ?
> Thoughts and ideas please
> rg
>
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Jan  7 16:49:55 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2024 15:49:55 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
In-Reply-To: <9c3891ac-5de7-4ee1-8565-f5f256980ed9@earthlink.net>
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Any good machine shop will check the head for cracks before doing any 
other work. See what they say.

On 1/7/2024 1:53 PM, Bob Haskell wrote:
>
> Pressure test the cooling system. Would have to be done with the head 
> installed.
>
> Bob Haskell
> Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
> On 1/7/24 15:40, Roger Grace wrote:
>>
>> Up date.
>> So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that 
>> Barrs leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)
>> After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still 
>> glycol present.
>> Now have head off.
>> Nothing really obvious.
>> Suggestions where/what to look for ?
>> Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.
>> Thoughts
>> rg
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: *Roger Grace* <roggrace at telus.net>
>> Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15?PM
>> Subject: Glycol in oil
>> To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>
>>
>> 67 BJ8
>> Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.
>> Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve 
>> cover and near oil filler.
>> Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr
>> Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi
>> Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting 
>> no water found ... assume gets burnt off ?
>> Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently 
>> installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being 
>> removed. Silly me.
>> So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit 
>> area? that others may have encountered ?
>> ?Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?
>> Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.
>> Remove head ?
>> Thoughts and ideas please
>> rg
>>
>>
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Sun Jan  7 18:37:45 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2024 01:37:45 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
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From ynotink at msn.com  Sun Jan  7 20:47:18 2024
From: ynotink at msn.com (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2024 03:47:18 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
In-Reply-To: <02bf01da41ba$b16acd20$14406760$@comcast.net>
References: <CALPtYiN8VYpkvp5fS_PzijO_tz=TmfD9F8i-94dGFia+V3n0JA@mail.gmail.com>
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I recommend the MLS gasket that Denis Welch supplies. It requires a very smooth finish, but if you can get that it provides a very good seal. I had the chronic problem of a leaky head gasket on my 100 And their gasket solved it.

Bill Lawrence
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of jvwojcik at comcast.net <jvwojcik at comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 10:41 PM
To: 'Roger Grace' <roggrace at telus.net>; 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil


Hi Roger, If your current fix fails, no need to despair.  After a 10 year chase to stop oil from getting into the coolant in my BN7 using multiple head gaskets and the Southern Carburetor drilling kit, etc., Hardblok

https://www.hardblok.com/



did the job perfectly. Attached is an image of where my builder put it, rolling the block to place the product where he deduced the seepage came through. In this specific use, I do not think there was much change in heat transfer. It worked for years, then I sold the car but suspect it is still doing the job. Jim Wojcik, MN





From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Grace
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 2:41 PM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil





Up date.

So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that Barrs leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)

After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still glycol present.

Now have head off.

Nothing really obvious.

Suggestions where/what to look for ?

Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.

Thoughts

rg







---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net<mailto:roggrace at telus.net>>
Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15?PM
Subject: Glycol in oil
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>



67 BJ8

Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.

Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cover and near oil filler.

Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr

Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi

Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no water found ... assume gets burnt off ?

Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being removed. Silly me.

So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area  that others may have encountered ?

 Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?

Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.

Remove head ?

Thoughts and ideas please

rg


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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 08:15:50 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2024 10:15:50 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
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I agree with Bill.

I installed the DW steel gasket in about 2003 and 60K so or miles ago when
I also put in upgraded internals and the DW alloy head, etc. I have not
removed or retorqued the head since then.  In the last year or so a very
slight coolant weepage (I can't even call it a leakage) developed on the
right side of the head/block joint between cylinders 2 and 3 when
starting from cold, which quickly disappeared on warm-up.

My main complaining symptom is a reduction in oil pressure both hot and
cold from about 65/30 psi at warm revs and idle to no more than 40/15 psi
commensurate. Though I renewed the oil pump and replaced the few bearings I
could with the engine in situ a few years back this was of little effect.
I know there are those who say that oil pressure is overrated and our
Healeys can live happily without it but I'm a bit on the compulsive side
and can't keep my eyes on the road and off that needle, so off with her
head, and more as over the winter the engine is being disassembled and line
bored, the crank and internals crack-checked and refreshed as necessary,
etc.

Though the DW steel gasket is supposedly reusable I am, with reckless
abandon, going to install the unused spare steel head gasket which has lain
under the boot Armacord in its original packaging for the last 20 years.  I
feel the car has given me good and reliable service over these many miles
and has earned the right to demand this splurge on my part.

More news as it happens--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 6:38?AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com> wrote:

> I recommend the MLS gasket that Denis Welch supplies. It requires a very
> smooth finish, but if you can get that it provides a very good seal. I had
> the chronic problem of a leaky head gasket on my 100 And their gasket
> solved it.
>
> Bill Lawrence
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of
> jvwojcik at comcast.net <jvwojcik at comcast.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 7, 2024 10:41 PM
> *To:* 'Roger Grace' <roggrace at telus.net>; 'Healeys' <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
>
>
> Hi Roger, If your current fix fails, no need to despair.  After a 10 year
> chase to stop oil from getting into the coolant in my BN7 using multiple
> head gaskets and the Southern Carburetor drilling kit, etc., Hardblok
>
> https://www.hardblok.com/
>
>
>
> did the job perfectly. Attached is an image of where my builder put it,
> rolling the block to place the product where he deduced the seepage came
> through. In this specific use, I do not think there was much change in heat
> transfer. It worked for years, then I sold the car but suspect it is still
> doing the job. Jim Wojcik, MN
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Roger
> Grace
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 7, 2024 2:41 PM
> *To:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
>
>
>
>
>
> Up date.
>
> So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that Barrs
> leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)
>
> After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still glycol
> present.
>
> Now have head off.
>
> Nothing really obvious.
>
> Suggestions where/what to look for ?
>
> Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.
>
> Thoughts
>
> rg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Roger Grace* <roggrace at telus.net>
> Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15?PM
> Subject: Glycol in oil
> To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>
>
> 67 BJ8
>
> Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.
>
> Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cover
> and near oil filler.
>
> Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr
>
> Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi
>
> Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no
> water found ... assume gets burnt off ?
>
> Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently
> installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being
> removed. Silly me.
>
> So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area
> that others may have encountered ?
>
>  Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?
>
> Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.
>
> Remove head ?
>
> Thoughts and ideas please
>
> rg
>
>
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 11:23:07 2024
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2024 10:23:07 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
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Michael ? is it possible you are losing oil pressure from the rocker shaft?

 

It is very easy to check ? just warm up the car and then run it with the rocker cover off. The oil should seep out of the rockers, but a worn shaft will spray instead of seep.  I once had one that shot oil far enough up to hit the underside of the bonnet!

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2024 7:16 AM
To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil

 

I agree with Bill.  

 

I installed the DW steel gasket in about 2003 and 60K so or miles ago when I also put in upgraded internals and the DW alloy head, etc. I have not removed or retorqued the head since then.  In the last year or so a very slight coolant weepage (I can't even call it a leakage) developed on the right side of the head/block joint between cylinders 2 and 3 when starting from cold, which quickly disappeared on warm-up.

 

My main complaining symptom is a reduction in oil pressure both hot and cold from about 65/30 psi at warm revs and idle to no more than 40/15 psi commensurate. Though I renewed the oil pump and replaced the few bearings I could with the engine in situ a few years back this was of little effect.  I know there are those who say that oil pressure is overrated and our Healeys can live happily without it but I'm a bit on the compulsive side and can't keep my eyes on the road and off that needle, so off with her head, and more as over the winter the engine is being disassembled and line bored, the crank and internals crack-checked and refreshed as necessary, etc.

 

Though the DW steel gasket is supposedly reusable I am, with reckless abandon, going to install the unused spare steel head gasket which has lain under the boot Armacord in its original packaging for the last 20 years.  I feel the car has given me good and reliable service over these many miles and has earned the right to demand this splurge on my part.

 

More news as it happens--Michael Oritt

 

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 6:38?AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com <mailto:ynotink at msn.com> > wrote:

I recommend the MLS gasket that Denis Welch supplies. It requires a very smooth finish, but if you can get that it provides a very good seal. I had the chronic problem of a leaky head gasket on my 100 And their gasket solved it. 

 

Bill Lawrence

  _____  

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of jvwojcik at comcast.net <mailto:jvwojcik at comcast.net>  <jvwojcik at comcast.net <mailto:jvwojcik at comcast.net> >
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 10:41 PM
To: 'Roger Grace' <roggrace at telus.net <mailto:roggrace at telus.net> >; 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil 

 

Hi Roger, If your current fix fails, no need to despair.  After a 10 year chase to stop oil from getting into the coolant in my BN7 using multiple head gaskets and the Southern Carburetor drilling kit, etc., Hardblok

https://www.hardblok.com/

 

did the job perfectly. Attached is an image of where my builder put it, rolling the block to place the product where he deduced the seepage came through. In this specific use, I do not think there was much change in heat transfer. It worked for years, then I sold the car but suspect it is still doing the job. Jim Wojcik, MN

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Roger Grace
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 2:41 PM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil

 

 

Up date.

So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that Barrs leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)

After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still glycol present.

Now have head off.

Nothing really obvious.

Suggestions where/what to look for ?

Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.

Thoughts 

rg

 

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net <mailto:roggrace at telus.net> >
Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15?PM
Subject: Glycol in oil
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

 

67 BJ8

Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.

Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cover and near oil filler.

Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr

Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi

Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no water found ... assume gets burnt off ?

Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being removed. Silly me.

So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area  that others may have encountered ?

 Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?

Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.

Remove head ?

Thoughts and ideas please

rg

 

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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 11:56:34 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2024 13:56:34 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
In-Reply-To: <2f5601da425f$bab1c5f0$301551d0$@gmail.com>
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 <CALPtYiNOiG5mMFxQzu8nnvLoZ8B5Emi6VWsbnFcQOQj5gCDFXA@mail.gmail.com>
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Al--

No, not a lot of oil is being pumped out of the rocker shaft.
I suspect bottom end wear.

Best--Michael

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 1:23?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael ? is it possible you are losing oil pressure from the rocker shaft?
>
>
>
> It is very easy to check ? just warm up the car and then run it with the
> rocker cover off. The oil should seep out of the rockers, but a worn shaft
> will spray instead of seep.  I once had one that shot oil far enough up to
> hit the underside of the bonnet!
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Oritt
> *Sent:* Monday, January 8, 2024 7:16 AM
> *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
>
>
>
> I agree with Bill.
>
>
>
> I installed the DW steel gasket in about 2003 and 60K so or miles ago when
> I also put in upgraded internals and the DW alloy head, etc. I have not
> removed or retorqued the head since then.  In the last year or so a very
> slight coolant weepage (I can't even call it a leakage) developed on the
> right side of the head/block joint between cylinders 2 and 3 when
> starting from cold, which quickly disappeared on warm-up.
>
>
>
> My main complaining symptom is a reduction in oil pressure both hot and
> cold from about 65/30 psi at warm revs and idle to no more than 40/15 psi
> commensurate. Though I renewed the oil pump and replaced the few bearings I
> could with the engine in situ a few years back this was of little effect.
> I know there are those who say that oil pressure is overrated and our
> Healeys can live happily without it but I'm a bit on the compulsive side
> and can't keep my eyes on the road and off that needle, so off with her
> head, and more as over the winter the engine is being disassembled and
> line bored, the crank and internals crack-checked and refreshed as
> necessary, etc.
>
>
>
> Though the DW steel gasket is supposedly reusable I am, with reckless
> abandon, going to install the unused spare steel head gasket which has lain
> under the boot Armacord in its original packaging for the last 20 years.  I
> feel the car has given me good and reliable service over these many miles
> and has earned the right to demand this splurge on my part.
>
>
>
> More news as it happens--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 6:38?AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com> wrote:
>
> I recommend the MLS gasket that Denis Welch supplies. It requires a very
> smooth finish, but if you can get that it provides a very good seal. I had
> the chronic problem of a leaky head gasket on my 100 And their gasket
> solved it.
>
>
>
> Bill Lawrence
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of
> jvwojcik at comcast.net <jvwojcik at comcast.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 7, 2024 10:41 PM
> *To:* 'Roger Grace' <roggrace at telus.net>; 'Healeys' <
> healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
>
>
>
> Hi Roger, If your current fix fails, no need to despair.  After a 10 year
> chase to stop oil from getting into the coolant in my BN7 using multiple
> head gaskets and the Southern Carburetor drilling kit, etc., Hardblok
>
> https://www.hardblok.com/
>
>
>
> did the job perfectly. Attached is an image of where my builder put it,
> rolling the block to place the product where he deduced the seepage came
> through. In this specific use, I do not think there was much change in heat
> transfer. It worked for years, then I sold the car but suspect it is still
> doing the job. Jim Wojcik, MN
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Roger
> Grace
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 7, 2024 2:41 PM
> *To:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
>
>
>
>
>
> Up date.
>
> So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that Barrs
> leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)
>
> After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still glycol
> present.
>
> Now have head off.
>
> Nothing really obvious.
>
> Suggestions where/what to look for ?
>
> Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.
>
> Thoughts
>
> rg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Roger Grace* <roggrace at telus.net>
> Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15?PM
> Subject: Glycol in oil
> To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>
>
> 67 BJ8
>
> Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.
>
> Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cover
> and near oil filler.
>
> Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr
>
> Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi
>
> Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no
> water found ... assume gets burnt off ?
>
> Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently
> installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being
> removed. Silly me.
>
> So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area
> that others may have encountered ?
>
>  Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?
>
> Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.
>
> Remove head ?
>
> Thoughts and ideas please
>
> rg
>
>
>
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Mon Jan  8 12:03:09 2024
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2024 11:03:09 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil
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References: <CALPtYiN8VYpkvp5fS_PzijO_tz=TmfD9F8i-94dGFia+V3n0JA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <2f7801da4265$52a18c60$f7e4a520$@gmail.com>

Well, yeah ? big-end bearing wear would do it, too!  Good luck on locating the source.

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2024 10:57 AM
To: alfuller194 at gmail.com
Cc: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com>; Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil

 

Al--

 

No, not a lot of oil is being pumped out of the rocker shaft.

I suspect bottom end wear.

 

Best--Michael

 

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 1:23?PM <alfuller194 at gmail.com <mailto:alfuller194 at gmail.com> > wrote:

Michael ? is it possible you are losing oil pressure from the rocker shaft?

 

It is very easy to check ? just warm up the car and then run it with the rocker cover off. The oil should seep out of the rockers, but a worn shaft will spray instead of seep.  I once had one that shot oil far enough up to hit the underside of the bonnet!

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2024 7:16 AM
To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com <mailto:ynotink at msn.com> >
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil

 

I agree with Bill.  

 

I installed the DW steel gasket in about 2003 and 60K so or miles ago when I also put in upgraded internals and the DW alloy head, etc. I have not removed or retorqued the head since then.  In the last year or so a very slight coolant weepage (I can't even call it a leakage) developed on the right side of the head/block joint between cylinders 2 and 3 when starting from cold, which quickly disappeared on warm-up.

 

My main complaining symptom is a reduction in oil pressure both hot and cold from about 65/30 psi at warm revs and idle to no more than 40/15 psi commensurate. Though I renewed the oil pump and replaced the few bearings I could with the engine in situ a few years back this was of little effect.  I know there are those who say that oil pressure is overrated and our Healeys can live happily without it but I'm a bit on the compulsive side and can't keep my eyes on the road and off that needle, so off with her head, and more as over the winter the engine is being disassembled and line bored, the crank and internals crack-checked and refreshed as necessary, etc.

 

Though the DW steel gasket is supposedly reusable I am, with reckless abandon, going to install the unused spare steel head gasket which has lain under the boot Armacord in its original packaging for the last 20 years.  I feel the car has given me good and reliable service over these many miles and has earned the right to demand this splurge on my part.

 

More news as it happens--Michael Oritt

 

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 6:38?AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink at msn.com <mailto:ynotink at msn.com> > wrote:

I recommend the MLS gasket that Denis Welch supplies. It requires a very smooth finish, but if you can get that it provides a very good seal. I had the chronic problem of a leaky head gasket on my 100 And their gasket solved it. 

 

Bill Lawrence

  _____  

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of jvwojcik at comcast.net <mailto:jvwojcik at comcast.net>  <jvwojcik at comcast.net <mailto:jvwojcik at comcast.net> >
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 10:41 PM
To: 'Roger Grace' <roggrace at telus.net <mailto:roggrace at telus.net> >; 'Healeys' <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil 

 

Hi Roger, If your current fix fails, no need to despair.  After a 10 year chase to stop oil from getting into the coolant in my BN7 using multiple head gaskets and the Southern Carburetor drilling kit, etc., Hardblok

https://www.hardblok.com/

 

did the job perfectly. Attached is an image of where my builder put it, rolling the block to place the product where he deduced the seepage came through. In this specific use, I do not think there was much change in heat transfer. It worked for years, then I sold the car but suspect it is still doing the job. Jim Wojcik, MN

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Roger Grace
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 2:41 PM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Glycol in oil

 

 

Up date.

So re-torqued head. Only one nut moved 3/4 turn. Added some of that Barrs leaks to coolant. Rigorous oil change (cooler too)

After 425 mi on new oil had another analysis done and pains still glycol present.

Now have head off.

Nothing really obvious.

Suggestions where/what to look for ?

Plan to take head to a machine shop for truing.

Thoughts 

rg

 

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net <mailto:roggrace at telus.net> >
Date: Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 8:15?PM
Subject: Glycol in oil
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

 

67 BJ8

Approx 15k mi on rebuilt engine by PO.

Recently detected water droplets and creamy oil residue inside valve cover and near oil filler.

Pains as engine and car run so well ... grr

Did compression test and all OK at around 150 psi

Also had oil analysis done that confirmed glycol in oil. Interesting no water found ... assume gets burnt off ?

Upon reflection realise had been losing some coolant. Have recently installed a recovery reservoir and attributed the loss to air being removed. Silly me.

So need some ideas how to proceed and if there is a likely culprit area  that others may have encountered ?

 Maybe start by re torqueing the head ?

Not sure how to retest though apart from another oil test.

Remove head ?

Thoughts and ideas please

rg

 

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From bspidell at comcast.net  Tue Jan  9 09:56:31 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 08:56:31 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Electronic Distributor
Message-ID: <beb142d0-4c81-4bde-a579-9f75f8d7ef39@comcast.net>

AHSpares just let me know about a new toy. I am always amazed and 
delighted when someone comes up something new and high-tech for our old 
cars, but I gotta believe any performance enhancement--for street cars 
anyway--would be negligible? Could be a boon for anyone with a worn-out 
distributor though.

https://www.ahspares.co.uk/news/optimise-your-austin-healey-engine-performance-with-csi-electronic-distributors.aspx

Bob

From manifold at telus.net  Tue Jan  9 11:05:08 2024
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 10:05:08 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Lay Gear End Float
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCA5Z622_JVk6D7h7b0=kcToeUPJZMtMe32K3+XE+48JYw@mail.gmail.com>

I will be assembling my Side Shift Gearbox soon. As I am going through the
parts list I noticed the rear thrust washer for the Lay Gear is available
in different thickness which suggests there is a specification for the end
float. The thrust washers come in 0.003" increments which would suggest an
end float of 0.001" to 0.003".

Does that sound right?

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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Tue Jan  9 11:31:55 2024
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 18:31:55 -0000
Subject: [Healeys] Electronic Distributor
In-Reply-To: <beb142d0-4c81-4bde-a579-9f75f8d7ef39@comcast.net>
References: <beb142d0-4c81-4bde-a579-9f75f8d7ef39@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000001da432a$209df080$61d9d180$@alexarevel.plus.com>

I've got the older (original?) 123Ignition distributor. That has been
overtaken or supplemented by their USB to laptop version. Not sure quite
what that offers but  I'd guess it's similar to this thing. 
I had a Pertronix which died on me. They gave me another, no quibbles. But
it was a golden opportunity for Father Christmas to bring me the 123! Mayve
a CSI next year....only a month or two to go!
Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 4:57 PM
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Electronic Distributor

AHSpares just let me know about a new toy. I am always amazed and delighted
when someone comes up something new and high-tech for our old cars, but I
gotta believe any performance enhancement--for street cars anyway--would be
negligible? Could be a boon for anyone with a worn-out distributor though.

https://www.ahspares.co.uk/news/optimise-your-austin-healey-engine-performan
ce-with-csi-electronic-distributors.aspx

Bob
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Tue Jan  9 12:14:18 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 14:14:18 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Lay Gear End Float
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCA5Z622_JVk6D7h7b0=kcToeUPJZMtMe32K3+XE+48JYw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAB3i7L+58gBnOMAx9omsc_2dbz5faD0Kj9cCBVbzvzRgduifsg@mail.gmail.com>

I've never seen a published figure for laygear endfloat Harold but my
conclusion was the same as yours so I always try to set it to between 1 & 3
thou.
On occasion I've had to resort to turning up my own rear thrust bearings to
achieve the "correct" end float.
One box that came into us with a complaint of jumping out of 4th gear all
the time had a broken and therefore missing rear thrust washer. Setting up
the endfloat with a custom made thrust washer to compensate for the wear
and refacing of the end of the laygear and making no other changes solved
the problem completely.

M

On Tue., Jan. 9, 2024, 1:13 p.m. Harold Manifold, <manifold at telus.net>
wrote:

> I will be assembling my Side Shift Gearbox soon. As I am going through the
> parts list I noticed the rear thrust washer for the Lay Gear is available
> in different thickness which suggests there is a specification for the end
> float. The thrust washers come in 0.003" increments which would suggest an
> end float of 0.001" to 0.003".
>
> Does that sound right?
>
> Thanks... Harold
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Tue Jan  9 14:01:00 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 21:01:00 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Lay Gear End Float
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From manifold at telus.net  Tue Jan  9 15:24:30 2024
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 14:24:30 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Lay Gear End Float
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References: <91b8b537-f998-41dd-cd11-968a0e6f9235@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCBAqQhmriZkXLpP_4k588J2RQW4zQc4nSdrRhWsN4Hk3A@mail.gmail.com>

Hank,

The gear box is a BN4 Sideshift for a Healey 100-6. I have a Healey BT7
with a November 1960 build date but when I took the car apart I discovered
the BN4 gearbox. Your article is perfect and confirms my suspicion the end
float should be 0.001" to 0.003".

Thanks... Harold

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 1:01?PM Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net> wrote:

> Hi Harold- you do no mention the GB # or series you are assembling.  There
> was a modification in the side shift  unit around 1962 in bushings and
> baulk rings just before it became a center shift.
>
> However, the specs for the laygear is similar for most all BMC boxes. Here
> is the passage from the Service Manual for the 100 gearbox which really
> also applies to the later 4spd. and center shift assemblies.
>
> Hope this helps to guide you. Regards, Hank (healeyhelper.com)
>
> --------------------
>
> From: "Harold Manifold" <manifold at telus.net>
> To: "Healey List" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 09 2024 10:25 AM
> Subject: [Healeys] Lay Gear End Float
> I will be assembling my Side Shift Gearbox soon. As I am going through the
> parts list I noticed the rear thrust washer for the Lay Gear is available
> in different thickness which suggests there is a specification for the end
> float. The thrust washers come in 0.003" increments which would suggest an
> end float of 0.001" to 0.003".
>
> Does that sound right?
>
> Thanks... Harold
>
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From ryan at jimryan.com  Wed Jan 10 06:45:22 2024
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 08:45:22 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
Message-ID: <CAEajuYwZ=vitj8anR4itGVD0HQTwMDJeRH94xbniWXgrmV2QFQ@mail.gmail.com>

Saw this yesterday and loved it.  Definitely  best on the big screen.

Anybody know where the  100-6 that placed #37 in the 1957 Mille Miglia is
today?  It was the only Healey in the event
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_Mille_Miglia#:~:text=%5Bedit%5D-,Official%20Results,-%5Bedit%5D>
.

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From alanwassermannc at gmail.com  Wed Jan 10 13:22:54 2024
From: alanwassermannc at gmail.com (Alan Wasserman)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 15:22:54 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Piping under headlights (BJ8)
Message-ID: <12BDDC1B-D1A4-42D3-BF58-50FE7D9D7946@gmail.com>

In my search for the perfect survivor, I found a ?65 BJ8 with under 17K original miles.  All the paperwork and history confirmed the low miles were original.  I spent 5 hours inspecting and photographing the car for an article series I am writing on Councours.  HOWEVER, I discovered the piping under the headlights was metal (and not the grey plastic that we all know to be) just as the rest of the above shroud.  I used my paint meter and found the paint surround a consistent reading (including the aluminum shroud).  I also examined the ?visible? fasteners connecting the shroud to see if they were replace or scratched and no such findings.  Has anyone come across such an anomaly?

From alanwassermannc at gmail.com  Wed Jan 10 18:38:27 2024
From: alanwassermannc at gmail.com (Alan Wasserman)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 20:38:27 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Piping under headlights (BJ8 Phase 2)
Message-ID: <37763226-7FC7-497F-9ACC-E07C62ED6D3A@gmail.com>

In my search for the perfect survivor, I found a ?65 BJ8 with under 17K original miles.  All the paperwork and history confirmed the low miles were original.  I spent 5 hours inspecting and photographing the car for an article series I am writing on Concours.  HOWEVER, I discovered the piping under the headlights was metal (and not the grey plastic that we all know to be) just as the rest of the above shroud.  I used my paint meter and found the paint surround a consistent reading (including the aluminum shroud).  I also examined the internal ?visible? fasteners connecting the shroud to see if they were replaced or scratched and no such findings. Has anyone come across such an anomaly?

From gradea1 at charter.net  Thu Jan 11 11:57:13 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 18:57:13 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
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From ryan at jimryan.com  Thu Jan 11 16:36:38 2024
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 18:36:38 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
In-Reply-To: <ac56437b-e543-4369-69f2-b4653535a5b5@charter.net>
References: <ac56437b-e543-4369-69f2-b4653535a5b5@charter.net>
Message-ID: <CAEajuYyp34s=mAv_wOKxNRW5e1E-2h2bAD6-UeHL7V=qf1D=zA@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Hank, very interesting. What a brutal race that was, if the movie is
a good representation.  Not as dangerous as Enzo's wife but still
dangerous..

On Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 1:57?PM Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net> wrote:

> Jim-just happen to be in the middle of reading Graham Robsons book "Works
> Healey in Detail".  On page 73 you will find reference to the car
> registered UOC741 which was the car placed in the Mille Miglia by DHMC
> (Tommy Wisdom driving).  After it crashed in the 1958 French Alpine (John
> Gott driving) it was no longer used as a BMC Competitions Rallye car.
>
> As he describes in the book-then most of them were sold off to private
> ownership. By only referring to UK registration numbers, and never
> mentioning the chassis number, it is difficult to track the cars,
> especially if they leave England. Hank, AHC Historian
>
> --------------------
>
> From: "Jim Ryan" <ryan at jimryan.com>
> To: "List Healey" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 10 2024 07:44 AM
> Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
> Saw this yesterday and loved it.  Definitely  best on the big screen.
>
> Anybody know where the  100-6 that placed #37 in the 1957 Mille Miglia is
> today?  It was the only Healey in the event
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_Mille_Miglia#:~:text=%5Bedit%5D-,Official%20Results,-%5Bedit%5D>
> .
>
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>
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From pdzwig at summaventures.com  Fri Jan 12 13:01:54 2024
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 20:01:54 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
In-Reply-To: <CAEajuYyp34s=mAv_wOKxNRW5e1E-2h2bAD6-UeHL7V=qf1D=zA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ac56437b-e543-4369-69f2-b4653535a5b5@charter.net>
 <CAEajuYyp34s=mAv_wOKxNRW5e1E-2h2bAD6-UeHL7V=qf1D=zA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4b496c79-330e-4449-a779-a0fbfccdb599@summaventures.com>

If you look on Heleysix.net, it maybe that the rear axle from a car 
owned by De Portago was used in a Healey for a while, but it's very unclear.

I was hoping that the film was aviable to stream, but no such luck. I 
have a shot of Taruffi and von Trips approaching the line in my 
collection and would love to see how the directors represent it.

It *was* a very brutal race.

Peter


On 11/01/2024 23:36, Jim Ryan wrote:
> Thanks Hank, very?interesting. What a brutal race that was, if the movie 
> is a good representation.? Not as dangerous as Enzo's wife but still 
> dangerous..
> 
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 1:57?PM Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net 
> <mailto:gradea1 at charter.net>> wrote:
> 
>     Jim-just happen to be in the middle of reading Graham Robsons book
>     "Works Healey in Detail".? On page 73 you will find reference to the
>     car registered UOC741 which was the car placed in the Mille Miglia
>     by DHMC (Tommy Wisdom driving).? After it crashed in the 1958 French
>     Alpine (John Gott driving) it was no longer used as a BMC
>     Competitions Rallye car.
>     As he describes in the book-then most of them were sold off to
>     private ownership. By only referring to UK registration numbers, and
>     never mentioning the chassis number, it is difficult to track the
>     cars, especially if they leave England. Hank, AHC Historian
> 
>     --------------------
> 
>     From: "Jim Ryan" <ryan at jimryan.com <mailto:ryan at jimryan.com>>
>     To: "List Healey" <healeys at autox.team.net
>     <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
>     Sent: Wed, Jan 10 2024 07:44 AM
>     Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
>     Saw this yesterday and loved it.? Definitely? best on the big screen.
>     Anybody know where the? 100-6 that placed #37 in the 1957 Mille
>     Miglia is today?? It was the only Healey in the event
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_Mille_Miglia#:~:text=%5Bedit%5D-,Official%20Results,-%5Bedit%5D>.
>     -- 
> 
>     Jim Ryan
> 
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From ryan at jimryan.com  Fri Jan 12 15:01:01 2024
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 17:01:01 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
In-Reply-To: <4b496c79-330e-4449-a779-a0fbfccdb599@summaventures.com>
References: <ac56437b-e543-4369-69f2-b4653535a5b5@charter.net>
 <CAEajuYyp34s=mAv_wOKxNRW5e1E-2h2bAD6-UeHL7V=qf1D=zA@mail.gmail.com>
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Peter.

I  think it is better appreciated on the big screen. Well worth the price.

On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 3:02?PM Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
wrote:

> If you look on Heleysix.net, it maybe that the rear axle from a car
> owned by De Portago was used in a Healey for a while, but it's very
> unclear.
>
> I was hoping that the film was aviable to stream, but no such luck. I
> have a shot of Taruffi and von Trips approaching the line in my
> collection and would love to see how the directors represent it.
>
> It *was* a very brutal race.
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 11/01/2024 23:36, Jim Ryan wrote:
> > Thanks Hank, very interesting. What a brutal race that was, if the movie
> > is a good representation.  Not as dangerous as Enzo's wife but still
> > dangerous..
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 1:57?PM Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net
> > <mailto:gradea1 at charter.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     Jim-just happen to be in the middle of reading Graham Robsons book
> >     "Works Healey in Detail".  On page 73 you will find reference to the
> >     car registered UOC741 which was the car placed in the Mille Miglia
> >     by DHMC (Tommy Wisdom driving).  After it crashed in the 1958 French
> >     Alpine (John Gott driving) it was no longer used as a BMC
> >     Competitions Rallye car.
> >     As he describes in the book-then most of them were sold off to
> >     private ownership. By only referring to UK registration numbers, and
> >     never mentioning the chassis number, it is difficult to track the
> >     cars, especially if they leave England. Hank, AHC Historian
> >
> >     --------------------
> >
> >     From: "Jim Ryan" <ryan at jimryan.com <mailto:ryan at jimryan.com>>
> >     To: "List Healey" <healeys at autox.team.net
> >     <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
> >     Sent: Wed, Jan 10 2024 07:44 AM
> >     Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
> >     Saw this yesterday and loved it.  Definitely  best on the big screen.
> >     Anybody know where the  100-6 that placed #37 in the 1957 Mille
> >     Miglia is today?  It was the only Healey in the event
> >     <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_Mille_Miglia#:~:text=%5Bedit%5D-,Official%20Results,-%5Bedit%5D
> >.
> >     --
> >
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> >
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From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com  Fri Jan 12 16:59:03 2024
From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 23:59:03 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
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I have seen the movie as well and there is a very brief appeatance of an Austin-Healey in Healey blue with white coves near the beginning of the Mille Miglia, no more than 2-3 seconds.

Jean

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network.
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2024 2:01:54 PM
To: Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com>; gradea1 at charter.net <gradea1 at charter.net>
Cc: List Healey <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)

If you look on Heleysix.net, it maybe that the rear axle from a car
owned by De Portago was used in a Healey for a while, but it's very unclear.

I was hoping that the film was aviable to stream, but no such luck. I
have a shot of Taruffi and von Trips approaching the line in my
collection and would love to see how the directors represent it.

It *was* a very brutal race.

Peter


On 11/01/2024 23:36, Jim Ryan wrote:
> Thanks Hank, very interesting. What a brutal race that was, if the movie
> is a good representation.  Not as dangerous as Enzo's wife but still
> dangerous..
>
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 1:57?PM Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net
> <mailto:gradea1 at charter.net>> wrote:
>
>     Jim-just happen to be in the middle of reading Graham Robsons book
>     "Works Healey in Detail".  On page 73 you will find reference to the
>     car registered UOC741 which was the car placed in the Mille Miglia
>     by DHMC (Tommy Wisdom driving).  After it crashed in the 1958 French
>     Alpine (John Gott driving) it was no longer used as a BMC
>     Competitions Rallye car.
>     As he describes in the book-then most of them were sold off to
>     private ownership. By only referring to UK registration numbers, and
>     never mentioning the chassis number, it is difficult to track the
>     cars, especially if they leave England. Hank, AHC Historian
>
>     --------------------
>
>     From: "Jim Ryan" <ryan at jimryan.com <mailto:ryan at jimryan.com>>
>     To: "List Healey" <healeys at autox.team.net
>     <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
>     Sent: Wed, Jan 10 2024 07:44 AM
>     Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
>     Saw this yesterday and loved it.  Definitely  best on the big screen.
>     Anybody know where the  100-6 that placed #37 in the 1957 Mille
>     Miglia is today?  It was the only Healey in the event
>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_Mille_Miglia#:~:text=%5Bedit%5D-,Official%20Results,-%5Bedit%5D>.
>     --
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>
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From ryan at jimryan.com  Sat Jan 13 06:59:34 2024
From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 08:59:34 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
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Yeah, that's what I saw so I looked it up when I got home.

On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 6:59?PM Jean Caron <
vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have seen the movie as well and there is a very brief appeatance of an
> Austin-Healey in Healey blue with white coves near the beginning of the
> Mille Miglia, no more than 2-3 seconds.
>
> Jean
>
> Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Peter Dzwig
> <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 12, 2024 2:01:54 PM
> *To:* Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com>; gradea1 at charter.net <
> gradea1 at charter.net>
> *Cc:* List Healey <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
>
> If you look on Heleysix.net, it maybe that the rear axle from a car
> owned by De Portago was used in a Healey for a while, but it's very
> unclear.
>
> I was hoping that the film was aviable to stream, but no such luck. I
> have a shot of Taruffi and von Trips approaching the line in my
> collection and would love to see how the directors represent it.
>
> It *was* a very brutal race.
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 11/01/2024 23:36, Jim Ryan wrote:
> > Thanks Hank, very interesting. What a brutal race that was, if the movie
> > is a good representation.  Not as dangerous as Enzo's wife but still
> > dangerous..
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 1:57?PM Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net
> > <mailto:gradea1 at charter.net <gradea1 at charter.net>>> wrote:
> >
> >     Jim-just happen to be in the middle of reading Graham Robsons book
> >     "Works Healey in Detail".  On page 73 you will find reference to the
> >     car registered UOC741 which was the car placed in the Mille Miglia
> >     by DHMC (Tommy Wisdom driving).  After it crashed in the 1958 French
> >     Alpine (John Gott driving) it was no longer used as a BMC
> >     Competitions Rallye car.
> >     As he describes in the book-then most of them were sold off to
> >     private ownership. By only referring to UK registration numbers, and
> >     never mentioning the chassis number, it is difficult to track the
> >     cars, especially if they leave England. Hank, AHC Historian
> >
> >     --------------------
> >
> >     From: "Jim Ryan" <ryan at jimryan.com <mailto:ryan at jimryan.com
> <ryan at jimryan.com>>>
> >     To: "List Healey" <healeys at autox.team.net
> >     <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>>>
> >     Sent: Wed, Jan 10 2024 07:44 AM
> >     Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
> >     Saw this yesterday and loved it.  Definitely  best on the big screen.
> >     Anybody know where the  100-6 that placed #37 in the 1957 Mille
> >     Miglia is today?  It was the only Healey in the event
> >     <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_Mille_Miglia#:~:text=%5Bedit%5D-,Official%20Results,-%5Bedit%5D
> >.
> >     --
> >
> >     Jim Ryan
> >
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Sat Jan 13 07:25:26 2024
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 14:25:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
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Message-ID: <1673285904.1173787.1705155926383@mail.yahoo.com>

Amazing how many Healeys appear in period movies. Just one example: in BULLIT, you see a Healey three times?a parked?yellow 3000 Mk II roadster in two scenes and a green Mk III on the road during the chase scene. And of course in?ON THE BEACH, several 100s and a 100-6 driven by Ava Gardner (one with the new and improved cylinder head so I?ve read).?


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Saturday, January 13, 2024, 9:17 AM, Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com> wrote:

Yeah, that's what I saw so I looked it up when I got home.
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 6:59?PM Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com> wrote:

I have seen the movie as well and there is a very brief appeatance of an Austin-Healey in Healey blue with white coves near the beginning of the Mille Miglia, no more than 2-3 seconds.
Jean
Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network.From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2024 2:01:54 PM
To: Jim Ryan <ryan at jimryan.com>; gradea1 at charter.net <gradea1 at charter.net>
Cc: List Healey <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)?If you look on Heleysix.net, it maybe that the rear axle from a car
owned by De Portago was used in a Healey for a while, but it's very unclear.

I was hoping that the film was aviable to stream, but no such luck. I 
have a shot of Taruffi and von Trips approaching the line in my 
collection and would love to see how the directors represent it.

It *was* a very brutal race.

Peter


On 11/01/2024 23:36, Jim Ryan wrote:
> Thanks Hank, very?interesting. What a brutal race that was, if the movie 
> is a good representation.? Not as dangerous as Enzo's wife but still 
> dangerous..
> 
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2024, 1:57?PM Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net 
> <mailto:gradea1 at charter.net>> wrote:
> 
>???? Jim-just happen to be in the middle of reading Graham Robsons book
>???? "Works Healey in Detail".? On page 73 you will find reference to the
>???? car registered UOC741 which was the car placed in the Mille Miglia
>???? by DHMC (Tommy Wisdom driving).? After it crashed in the 1958 French
>???? Alpine (John Gott driving) it was no longer used as a BMC
>???? Competitions Rallye car.
>???? As he describes in the book-then most of them were sold off to
>???? private ownership. By only referring to UK registration numbers, and
>???? never mentioning the chassis number, it is difficult to track the
>???? cars, especially if they leave England. Hank, AHC Historian
> 
>???? --------------------
> 
>???? From: "Jim Ryan" <ryan at jimryan.com <mailto:ryan at jimryan.com>>
>???? To: "List Healey" <healeys at autox.team.net
>???? <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>
>???? Sent: Wed, Jan 10 2024 07:44 AM
>???? Subject: [Healeys] Ferrari (The Movie)
>???? Saw this yesterday and loved it.? Definitely? best on the big screen.
>???? Anybody know where the? 100-6 that placed #37 in the 1957 Mille
>???? Miglia is today?? It was the only Healey in the event
>???? <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_Mille_Miglia#:~:text=%5Bedit%5D-,Official%20Results,-%5Bedit%5D>.
>???? -- 
> 
>???? Jim Ryan
> 
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From craiginchico at gmail.com  Sat Jan 13 12:30:34 2024
From: craiginchico at gmail.com (Craig Cooper)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 11:30:34 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Aluminum Panel Beater is SF Bay Area?
Message-ID: <CABWqUymwxY6HZ3o5nf7gBNG6cC=nwDVnsptSkJYwbcS_Kgb8dg@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone know of a good body man in the Bay Area, preferably the East Bay,
who would be able to do repairs on a front shroud?

Thanks,

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From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jan 13 14:45:21 2024
From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (john spaur)
Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 21:45:21 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Aluminum Panel Beater is SF Bay Area?
In-Reply-To: <CABWqUymwxY6HZ3o5nf7gBNG6cC=nwDVnsptSkJYwbcS_Kgb8dg@mail.gmail.com>
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Images, David Ferguson specializes in Jaguars but the replaced the nose of my BT7 with one from AH Spares and did some repair work onbthe c rear shroud. https://g.co/kgs/tcgQqNQ

________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Craig Cooper <craiginchico at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 4:30:34 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Aluminum Panel Beater is SF Bay Area?

Anyone know of a good body man in the Bay Area, preferably the East Bay, who would be able to do repairs on a front shroud?

Thanks,

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From gradea1 at charter.net  Sat Jan 13 19:28:48 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 02:28:48 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Aluminum Panel Beater is SF Bay Area?
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 14 14:47:23 2024
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 13:47:23 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Aluminum Panel Beater is SF Bay Area?
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A long, long time ago I got to see some work done by Kent White 'the tin
man', who I think was in the general area. The work was top-notch!

 

A quick search brings this up:
https://www.tinmantech.com/about/kent-white-the-tin-man.php

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of john spaur
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 1:45 PM
To: Craig Cooper <craiginchico at gmail.com>; healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Aluminum Panel Beater is SF Bay Area?

 

Images, David Ferguson specializes in Jaguars but the replaced the nose of
my BT7 with one from AH Spares and did some repair work onbthe c rear
shroud.  <https://g.co/kgs/tcgQqNQ> https://g.co/kgs/tcgQqNQ

 

  _____  

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net
<mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of Craig Cooper
<craiginchico at gmail.com <mailto:craiginchico at gmail.com> >
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 4:30:34 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
<healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: [Healeys] Aluminum Panel Beater is SF Bay Area? 

 

Anyone know of a good body man in the Bay Area, preferably the East Bay, who
would be able to do repairs on a front shroud?

 

Thanks,

 

Craig

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From craiginchico at gmail.com  Mon Jan 15 12:04:53 2024
From: craiginchico at gmail.com (Craig Cooper)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2024 11:04:53 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Aluminum Panel Beater in SF Bay Area
Message-ID: <CABWqUym3O-mjF8Xm4MeKpuTTyw-s41X7YHXESoMFqppZmhXXxw@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to all for the suggestions.  I actually posted this for a friend,
but I have a couple of Healey 100's coming up and both need work on the
shrouds.  I'm seriously considering "Tinman" training sessions as it is
near my home and interesting he does most of his thin aluminum with torch
rather than TIG.  (I have a fairly sophisticated TIG setup and despite
hours and hours of trying, haven't been able to do much with it beyond
burning holes)

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From manifold at telus.net  Tue Jan 16 17:00:56 2024
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2024 16:00:56 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Gearbox Bearing Pre-Load Shims/Washers
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCDjLJ_4-0UWDhk5vHHG5uEHUxGbK0JT-+Pecw-irmhQWg@mail.gmail.com>

My Sideshift gearbox journey continues. The front and rear bearings on the
mainshaft are new and I was planning to replace the Plate (i.e. AEB3105)
and Spring Plate (i.e. AEC3178) that goes between the bearings at the bell
housing and the OD adapter housing ends. None of the usual suspects have
these parts available but do offer preload shims/washers in different
thicknesses. It looks like in the later BJ8 gearboxes two different
shims 22B152 and 22B153 replaced the Plate and Spring Plate used in earlier
gearboxes.

This begs the question. Will 22B152 and 22B153 fit my earlier sideshift
gearbox? I am assuming one would use Plastigage to figure out the shims
needed to get a pre-load on the bearing.

Any insight and suggestions appreciated.

Harold
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Wed Jan 17 07:08:56 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 06:08:56 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box
Message-ID: <ee69eeb7-985c-4de6-a838-9254c1cf13c1@comcast.net>

Listers,

I bought a DWM uprated steering box/shaft for my BJ8 several years ago. 
I'm getting a round tuit to install it, but removing the grill looks to 
be a bit of a pain. My questions:

1) A noted Healey shop told me they were able to R&R a steering box on a 
6-cyl car--the 4-cyl grills aren't hard to remove--without removing the 
grill. Anyone done this/know how it could be done?

2) Does the radiator need to be drained and remove, or can it just be 
unbolted and move aside a couple inches (I did this on my BN2)? I'm 
willing to sacrifice the bolts that hold the box to the frame if I can 
avoid removing the radiator.

Any other tips and tricks welcome.

TIA,
Bob

From ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz  Wed Jan 17 16:55:10 2024
From: ardmorebusiness at xtra.co.nz (Mark Donaldson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 12:55:10 +1300
Subject: [Healeys] Gearbox Bearing Pre-Load Shims/Washers
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCDjLJ_4-0UWDhk5vHHG5uEHUxGbK0JT-+Pecw-irmhQWg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFP1XCDjLJ_4-0UWDhk5vHHG5uEHUxGbK0JT-+Pecw-irmhQWg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000e01da49a0$9be4f780$d3aee680$@xtra.co.nz>

Harold,

Why are you planning to replace the two bearing plates?  Are they damaged?

For the record, these two part numbers were used right up to the BJ7 gearbox.

My Mechanical Service Parts List for BJ8s for 22B 152 and 153 lists them as ?A/R?  . . .  as required.

Your local B.C. Wolseley group may be able to help you.  They have the same/similar gearboxes with much commonality to ours.

 

Cheers

Mark

 

Ardmore

NZ

 

From: Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2024 1:01 PM
To: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Gearbox Bearing Pre-Load Shims/Washers

 

My Sideshift gearbox journey continues. The front and rear bearings on the mainshaft are new and I was planning to replace the Plate (i.e. AEB3105) and Spring Plate (i.e. AEC3178) that goes between the bearings at the bell housing and the OD adapter housing ends. None of the usual suspects have these parts available but do offer preload shims/washers in different thicknesses. It looks like in the later BJ8 gearboxes two different shims 22B152 and 22B153 replaced the Plate and Spring Plate used in earlier gearboxes.

 

This begs the question. Will 22B152 and 22B153 fit my earlier sideshift gearbox? I am assuming one would use Plastigage to figure out the shims needed to get a pre-load on the bearing.

 

Any insight and suggestions appreciated.

 

Harold

 

 

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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Thu Jan 18 13:48:10 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 15:48:10 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] New post on my blog
Message-ID: <CAB3i7LJ72qNfPbe=hP9x6iFHRbadV3M-NA2SAkiqezRiUia=FA@mail.gmail.com>

My 100S years
https://precisionsportscar.com/ahs3903-the-story-of-my-100s-years/
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Thu Jan 18 14:29:45 2024
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 16:29:45 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] New post on my blog
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Great read Mike ? thanks!

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 3:48 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] New post on my blog

 

My 100S years

https://precisionsportscar.com/ahs3903-the-story-of-my-100s-years/

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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Thu Jan 18 18:26:46 2024
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 20:26:46 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] New post on my blog
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Great story, Michael.  I remember Bill's disappointment when he had to send
all that lottery money back.  Interesting story about your finding the
original motor from your S in California and reuniting it with the car.
Very similar to Bill finding the original motor for the Cooper car in New
Jersey, I believe.

Best regards,
Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

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From healey.nut at gmail.com  Thu Jan 18 21:25:15 2024
From: healey.nut at gmail.com (Alan Seigrist)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:25:15 +0800
Subject: [Healeys] New post on my blog
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I always loved your tech and racing stories for 3903 , and I love the back
story. Whilst my BJ8 wasn?t anything as special, I bought it in 1985 with
big flared fenders and buick mag wheels! So I can sympathize my global
search for body parts using the phone to call UK, etc.


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From sbyers at ec.rr.com  Fri Jan 19 02:57:41 2024
From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2024 04:57:41 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] New post on my blog
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Mike, thanks very much for the story of AHS3903.

 

I?ll never forget the day I visited your shop while on a business trip to Toronto.  You were installing some driving lights on 3903 and invited me to go on a test drive with you.   What a treat!

It may have been that my eyes were deceiving me, or that the speedometer was not precisely accurate, but I?ll always believe we were doing 100 mph on the streets of Richmond Hill!

Thanks for the memory.

 

Steve Byers

 

 

l

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My 100S years

https://precisionsportscar.com/ahs3903-the-story-of-my-100s-years/

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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Mon Jan 22 06:05:00 2024
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:05:00 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
Message-ID: <96a2f3b3-8fb7-42c3-81df-a2424a7574dd@chello.nl>

For sale in NL.

www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral

Kees Oudesluijs


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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 07:38:10 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 09:38:10 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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"special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants,
keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
--------------------------------------------
Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?



On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> For sale in NL.
>
>
> www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Mon Jan 22 07:59:25 2024
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 15:59:25 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
> "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European 
> variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
> --------------------------------------------
> Ooh I want that!? Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     For sale in NL.
>
>     www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
>     <http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral>
>
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 09:17:39 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 11:17:39 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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No doubt Kees and yet *there it is in print.*

I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant
Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it
was unimpressive.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
wrote:

> A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
> Kees Oudesluijs
> Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>
> "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants,
> keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
> --------------------------------------------
> Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> For sale in NL.
>>
>>
>> www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
>>
>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>
>>
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Mon Jan 22 09:49:29 2024
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:49:29 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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I am not a great believer of those kinds of claims. I did a lot of 
consumer testing for the ANWB, the Dutch AA/AAA, and other consumer 
organisations like Stiftung Warentest, Which, Consumer Reports etc. 
during my time, in total over 33 years, and when we tested, none of 
these claims ever did even come close to materialise.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 22-1-2024 om 17:17 schreef Michael Oritt:
> No doubt Kees and yet /there it is in print./
>
> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen 
> Casavant Something happened and he departed the scene as did?the car. 
> I thought?it was unimpressive.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs 
> <coudesluijs at chello.nl> wrote:
>
>     A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words:
>     BULLSHIT!!!!!!
>     Kees Oudesluijs
>
>     Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>>     "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European
>>     variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>>     --------------------------------------------
>>     Ooh I want that!? Why don't we know about this and where do I get
>>     in line?
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys
>>     <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>         For sale in NL.
>>
>>         www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
>>         <http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral>
>>
>>         Kees Oudesluijs
>>
>>
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Mon Jan 22 10:40:23 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 09:40:23 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B4-C+UiZ9HO4hGt-PrBR7Qj1FZ8hs987kW5u0=niHroAA@mail.gmail.com>
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Don't many/most Bimmers run on 10W-60 oil? Don't see how viscosity could 
affect temp at all.

On 1/22/2024 8:17 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> No doubt Kees and yet /there it is in print./
>
> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen 
> Casavant Something happened and he departed the scene as did?the car. 
> I thought?it was unimpressive.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs 
> <coudesluijs at chello.nl> wrote:
>
>     A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words:
>     BULLSHIT!!!!!!
>     Kees Oudesluijs
>
>     Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>>     "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European
>>     variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>>     --------------------------------------------
>>     Ooh I want that!? Why don't we know about this and where do I get
>>     in line?
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys
>>     <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>         For sale in NL.
>>
>>         www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
>>         <http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral>
>>
>>         Kees Oudesluijs
>>
>>
>>         -- 
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>>         op virussen.
>>         www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
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From ahmg at aol.com  Mon Jan 22 10:43:54 2024
From: ahmg at aol.com (KENNETH FLEMNG)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 12:43:54 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:57:07 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Mon Jan 22 11:35:45 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 10:35:45 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B4-C+UiZ9HO4hGt-PrBR7Qj1FZ8hs987kW5u0=niHroAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <96a2f3b3-8fb7-42c3-81df-a2424a7574dd@chello.nl>
 <CAPTa0B571nQnK=vaAuJnkdWYFNCvm++oSEDXCXh2d4CcoJNUSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <4c7bafd5-b3a5-4d2e-9da7-c10efa7879b1@chello.nl>
 <CAPTa0B4-C+UiZ9HO4hGt-PrBR7Qj1FZ8hs987kW5u0=niHroAA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d02d8777-f410-48bc-8cf5-d3ef54c1d613@comcast.net>

Don't many/most Bimmers run on 10W-60 oil? Don't see how viscosity could 
affect temp at all.

On 1/22/2024 8:17 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> No doubt Kees and yet /there it is in print./
>
> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen 
> Casavant Something happened and he departed the scene as did?the car. 
> I thought?it was unimpressive.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs 
> <coudesluijs at chello.nl> wrote:
>
>     A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words:
>     BULLSHIT!!!!!!
>     Kees Oudesluijs
>
>     Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>>     "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European
>>     variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>>     --------------------------------------------
>>     Ooh I want that!? Why don't we know about this and where do I get
>>     in line?
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys
>>     <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>         For sale in NL.
>>
>>         www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
>>         <http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral>
>>
>>         Kees Oudesluijs
>>
>>
>>         -- 
>>         Dit e-mailbericht is met AVG-antivirussoftware gecontroleerd
>>         op virussen.
>>         www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>
>>
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From tfsbj7 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 12:00:16 2024
From: tfsbj7 at gmail.com (tfsbj7 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:00:16 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
In-Reply-To: <7375958a-60d8-4175-b66f-918c78ba7c45@comcast.net>
References: <96a2f3b3-8fb7-42c3-81df-a2424a7574dd@chello.nl>
 <CAPTa0B571nQnK=vaAuJnkdWYFNCvm++oSEDXCXh2d4CcoJNUSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <4c7bafd5-b3a5-4d2e-9da7-c10efa7879b1@chello.nl>
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 <7375958a-60d8-4175-b66f-918c78ba7c45@comcast.net>
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I wonder how long it will be before people on this thread realize there is a word missing in the write-up?    (The missing word is ?cooler??.as in ?oil-cooler? ? it is a device that Porsche North America apparently offered (offers? ) for around $150)

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 12:40 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000

 

Don't many/most Bimmers run on 10W-60 oil? Don't see how viscosity could affect temp at all.

On 1/22/2024 8:17 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:

No doubt Kees and yet there it is in print.

 

I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant  Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it was unimpressive. 

 

Best--Michael Oritt

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl <mailto:coudesluijs at chello.nl> > wrote:

A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:

"special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"

--------------------------------------------

Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

For sale in NL.

www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats <http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral> &utm_medium=referral

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From sbyers at ec.rr.com  Mon Jan 22 12:08:11 2024
From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:08:11 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
In-Reply-To: <CAPTa0B4-C+UiZ9HO4hGt-PrBR7Qj1FZ8hs987kW5u0=niHroAA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <96a2f3b3-8fb7-42c3-81df-a2424a7574dd@chello.nl>
 <CAPTa0B571nQnK=vaAuJnkdWYFNCvm++oSEDXCXh2d4CcoJNUSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <4c7bafd5-b3a5-4d2e-9da7-c10efa7879b1@chello.nl>
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Message-ID: <013001da4d66$59592bb0$0c0b8310$@ec.rr.com>

Michael, I don?t believe this car is the same one owned by Alan Casavant.   He joined our annual NC Mountain tour back when he owned the 4000 and was driving it on the tour with his little daughter.  It was Ivory White with Black trim and had VIN 624W1628, engine HF414.

As I understand it, a divorce intervened and he sold the 4000.  His Silverstone was for sale at The Gathering in Mount Airy. About the same time.  The 4000 next turned up in Germany.  When I saw it, the car did not have what appears to be a BN4 VIN or the rear shroud like a Phase 1 BJ8.

 

Steve Byers

BJ8 Registry/4000 Registry

Havelock, NC USA

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2024 11:18 AM
To: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000

 

No doubt Kees and yet there it is in print.

 

I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant  Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it was unimpressive. 

 

Best--Michael Oritt

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl <mailto:coudesluijs at chello.nl> > wrote:

A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:

"special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"

--------------------------------------------

Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

For sale in NL.

www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats <http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral> &utm_medium=referral

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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 12:36:38 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:36:38 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
In-Reply-To: <819880AC-CC66-4858-A2C7-F4CD745CD6D6@aol.com>
References: <819880AC-CC66-4858-A2C7-F4CD745CD6D6.ref@aol.com>
 <819880AC-CC66-4858-A2C7-F4CD745CD6D6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTa0B6QJuqPxVACbCtrfTbS7mWpOCE=i_QC0ccP7spxfdUAFw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ken--

Perhaps I should not have assumed that the car pictured was in fact *"the
one true 4000"*.



On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:44?PM KENNETH FLEMNG <ahmg at aol.com> wrote:

> ?
> ?That?s is certainly not and original  from my knowledge . I also was in
> Alan car when he had it . It?s now in Switzerland I was told . I recall
> being three on e automatic .  None of them for red and did have this style
> dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as I have not looked
> closely but appears to be done well..
> Alan Hendrix had the car at shop for long periods and he could shed one
> light . The black 4000 is in Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year and
> Alan?s was white. I have photo of me in it somewhere .
> Ken
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> No doubt Kees and yet *there it is in print.*
>
> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant
> Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it
> was unimpressive.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
>> Kees Oudesluijs
>> Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>>
>> "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants,
>> keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>> --------------------------------------------
>> Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> For sale in NL.
>>>
>>>
>>> www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
>>>
>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>>
>>>
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 12:42:22 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:42:22 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
In-Reply-To: <013001da4d66$59592bb0$0c0b8310$@ec.rr.com>
References: <96a2f3b3-8fb7-42c3-81df-a2424a7574dd@chello.nl>
 <CAPTa0B571nQnK=vaAuJnkdWYFNCvm++oSEDXCXh2d4CcoJNUSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <4c7bafd5-b3a5-4d2e-9da7-c10efa7879b1@chello.nl>
 <CAPTa0B4-C+UiZ9HO4hGt-PrBR7Qj1FZ8hs987kW5u0=niHroAA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Steve--

I'm sure you're correct and I should not have assumed it to be the same
car.

Best--Michael

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:08?PM <sbyers at ec.rr.com> wrote:

> Michael, I don?t believe this car is the same one owned by Alan
> Casavant.   He joined our annual NC Mountain tour back when he owned the
> 4000 and was driving it on the tour with his little daughter.  It was Ivory
> White with Black trim and had VIN 624W1628, engine HF414.
>
> As I understand it, a divorce intervened and he sold the 4000.  His
> Silverstone was for sale at The Gathering in Mount Airy. About the same
> time.  The 4000 next turned up in Germany.  When I saw it, the car did not
> have what appears to be a BN4 VIN or the rear shroud like a Phase 1 BJ8.
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> BJ8 Registry/4000 Registry
>
> Havelock, NC USA
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Oritt
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 11:18 AM
> *To:* Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
>
>
>
> No doubt Kees and yet *there it is in print.*
>
>
>
> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant
> Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it
> was unimpressive.
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
> wrote:
>
> A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
> Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>
> "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants,
> keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> For sale in NL.
>
>
> www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
> --
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 12:44:33 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:44:33 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
In-Reply-To: <7375958a-60d8-4175-b66f-918c78ba7c45@comcast.net>
References: <96a2f3b3-8fb7-42c3-81df-a2424a7574dd@chello.nl>
 <CAPTa0B571nQnK=vaAuJnkdWYFNCvm++oSEDXCXh2d4CcoJNUSg@mail.gmail.com>
 <4c7bafd5-b3a5-4d2e-9da7-c10efa7879b1@chello.nl>
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"Don't see how viscosity could affect temp at all."

It only works when used in conjunction with Fish carburetors.


On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:18?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

> Don't many/most Bimmers run on 10W-60 oil? Don't see how viscosity could
> affect temp at all.
>
> On 1/22/2024 8:17 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
>
> No doubt Kees and yet *there it is in print.*
>
> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant
> Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it
> was unimpressive.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
>> Kees Oudesluijs
>> Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>>
>> "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants,
>> keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>> --------------------------------------------
>> Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> For sale in NL.
>>>
>>>
>>> www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
>>>
>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dit e-mailbericht is met AVG-antivirussoftware gecontroleerd op virussen.
>>> www.avg.com
>>>
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From ahmg at aol.com  Mon Jan 22 12:47:41 2024
From: ahmg at aol.com (KENNETH FLEMNG)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:47:41 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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From ahmg at aol.com  Mon Jan 22 12:51:19 2024
From: ahmg at aol.com (KENNETH FLEMNG)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 14:51:19 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 15:26:01 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:26:01 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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Maybe I should have seen if there is an emoji for sarcasm?

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 5:20?PM <tfsbj7 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I wonder how long it will be before people on this thread realize there is
> a word missing in the write-up?    (The missing word is ?cooler??.as in
> ?oil-cooler? ? it is a device that Porsche North America apparently offered
> (offers? ) for around $150)
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob
> Spidell
> *Sent:* Monday, January 22, 2024 12:40 PM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
>
>
>
> Don't many/most Bimmers run on 10W-60 oil? Don't see how viscosity could
> affect temp at all.
>
> On 1/22/2024 8:17 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
>
> No doubt Kees and yet *there it is in print.*
>
>
>
> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant
> Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it
> was unimpressive.
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
> wrote:
>
> A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
> Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>
> "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants,
> keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> For sale in NL.
>
>
> www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
>
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From tappiokie at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 15:34:37 2024
From: tappiokie at gmail.com (Jim Cox)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 17:34:37 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] AH 4000
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Very interesting car. I talked to the owner while in the Netherlands 
last summer (found out about it at the Healey Museum). It has been 
quietly on sale for a while now. At the time, he would not name a price 
so went no further. I canceled an appointment to see it. Jim


From gradea1 at charter.net  Mon Jan 22 19:21:49 2024
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 02:21:49 +0000
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From ahmg at aol.com  Mon Jan 22 19:37:22 2024
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Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 21:37:22 -0500
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Mon Jan 22 19:55:25 2024
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (Richard Mayor)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 18:55:25 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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It?s definitely a first rate build!


Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com


> On Jan 22, 2024, at 11:51 AM, KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I do know the one I was able to be in a drive around the shop lot sold for much, much, much, much more !
> Deserving appropriate at the time but not sure it would the same price in this Healey market had it been sold today . Just my opinion , no facts. 
> Ken
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 2:36?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Hi Ken--
>> 
>> Perhaps I should not have assumed that the car pictured was in fact "the one true 4000".
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:44?PM KENNETH FLEMNG <ahmg at aol.com <mailto:ahmg at aol.com>> wrote:
>> ?
>> ?That?s is certainly not and original  from my knowledge . I also was in Alan car when he had it . It?s now in Switzerland I was told . I recall being three on e automatic .  None of them for red and did have this style dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as I have not looked closely but appears to be done well.. 
>> Alan Hendrix had the car at shop for long periods and he could shed one light . The black 4000 is in Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year and Alan?s was white. I have photo of me in it somewhere . 
>> Ken
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com <mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?
>>> No doubt Kees and yet there it is in print.
>>> 
>>> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant  Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it was unimpressive. 
>>> 
>>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl <mailto:coudesluijs at chello.nl>> wrote:
>>> A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>> Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>>>> "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>> For sale in NL.
>>>> 
>>>> www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral <http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral>
>>>> 
>>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>>> 
>>>> 
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From p.cquinn at outlook.com  Mon Jan 22 22:39:36 2024
From: p.cquinn at outlook.com (Patrick and Caroline Quinn)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 05:39:36 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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Greetings

Through the wonders of Google it?s easy to translate the Dutch to English.

My understanding is that in period a total of six widened new chassis were made for the Rolls-Royce powered cars. Three complete cars were made. Then sometime down the track, one of them was in a severe accident and one of the three leftover chassis was used in the rebuild. That car was finished in red and imported into Australia in late 1974 and I drove it in January 1975. That car has since been fully restored in Old English White and remains in Australia.

When in the UK later in 1975 I met Peter(?) Cox who was the owner of another Rolls-Royce powered car that was finished in British Racing Green. I had the pleasure of driving that at an Austin-Healey rally at Donington Park. That is the car in the Dutch Healey Museum.

The third example, also finished in white, ended up with Alan Casavant and as far as I know is in Switzerland.

Sometime in the 1980s or ?90s a replica was made in the UK by ex-pat Australian Keith Boyer and featured in a UK magazine. I have a recollection that it was finished in red, but I may be mistaken.

What is interesting is the chassis number of the car coming up for auction in Belgium (not the Netherlands) is BN4460941 while the chassis number of the car in Australia is F 41.

With anything that is rare, it?s always important to pay due diligence to its history.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 6:48 AM
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000

No Michael , that is fine . What prompted my response was I went to the ad and it said one of four. I believe there were only 3 but could be wrong but fairly sure none were red. If it?s a tool room copy i applaud to the owner for
his work. I have yet to look it closely but will.
Ken
Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 22, 2024, at 2:36?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com<mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com>> wrote:
?
Hi Ken--

Perhaps I should not have assumed that the car pictured was in fact "the one true 4000".



On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:44?PM KENNETH FLEMNG <ahmg at aol.com<mailto:ahmg at aol.com>> wrote:
?
?That?s is certainly not and original  from my knowledge . I also was in Alan car when he had it . It?s now in Switzerland I was told . I recall being three on e automatic .  None of them for red and did have this style dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as I have not looked closely but appears to be done well..
Alan Hendrix had the car at shop for long periods and he could shed one light . The black 4000 is in Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year and Alan?s was white. I have photo of me in it somewhere .
Ken
Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com<mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com>> wrote:
?
No doubt Kees and yet there it is in print.

I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant  Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it was unimpressive.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl<mailto:coudesluijs at chello.nl>> wrote:

A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
"special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
--------------------------------------------
Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?



On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
For sale in NL.

www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral<http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral>

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From p.cquinn at outlook.com  Tue Jan 23 00:29:51 2024
From: p.cquinn at outlook.com (Patrick and Caroline Quinn)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 07:29:51 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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Greetings

Through the wonders of Google it?s easy to translate the Dutch to English.

My understanding is that in period a total of six widened new chassis were made for the Rolls-Royce powered cars. Three complete cars were made. Then sometime down the track, one of them was in a severe accident and one of the three leftover chassis was used in the rebuild. That car was finished in red and imported into Australia in late 1974 and I drove it in January 1975. That car has since been fully restored in Old English White and remains in Australia.

When in the UK later in 1975 I met Peter(?) Cox who was the owner of another Rolls-Royce powered car that was finished in British Racing Green. I had the pleasure of driving that at an Austin-Healey rally at Donington Park. That is the car in the Dutch Healey Museum.

The third example, also finished in white, ended up with Alan Casavant and as far as I know is in Switzerland.

Sometime in the 1980s or ?90s a replica was made in the UK by ex-pat Australian Keith Boyer and featured in a UK magazine. I have a recollection that it was finished in red, but I may be mistaken.

What is interesting is the chassis number of the car coming up for auction in Belgium (not the Netherlands) is BN4460941 while the chassis number of the car in Australia is F 41.

With anything that is rare, it?s always important to pay due diligence to its history.

Hoo Roo

Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains, Australia
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From reinhart.rosner at aon.at  Tue Jan 23 05:39:57 2024
From: reinhart.rosner at aon.at (Reinhart Rosner)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:39:57 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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Hi Patrick,

 

Your understanding is probably right: John Chatham writes in an article (https://www.ewilkins.com/wilko/ah4000.htm): ?Six modified chassis were thus put together by regular Austin-Healey chassis supplier John Thompson Motor Pressings and dispatched to Jensen which built the 3000 bodies.?

 

In Bill Emerson?s The Healey Book you can see the prototype with British license plate TNX65G in British Racing Green and without any badge on the bonnet. And there is a picture of a white 4000 with license plate PWD663F and what looks like the old Healey-badge.

 

>From the white 4000 with chassis 624W1628 (ex DMH, then Arthur Carter and Allen Casavant) I saw three efforts to sell the car. Twice in 2008: by the dealer Classic Restorations for GBP 250000 and at an auction where it was a No Sale at $350,000. In 2013 the German dealer Auto Salon Singen offered it again with POA.

 

Reinhart

 

 

Reinhart Rosner

55 100 BN 1

Vienna ? Austria

 

Von: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Patrick and Caroline Quinn
Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. J?nner 2024 08:30
An: healeys at autox.team.net
Betreff: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000

 

Greetings

 

Through the wonders of Google it?s easy to translate the Dutch to English.

 

My understanding is that in period a total of six widened new chassis were made for the Rolls-Royce powered cars. Three complete cars were made. Then sometime down the track, one of them was in a severe accident and one of the three leftover chassis was used in the rebuild. That car was finished in red and imported into Australia in late 1974 and I drove it in January 1975. That car has since been fully restored in Old English White and remains in Australia.

 

When in the UK later in 1975 I met Peter(?) Cox who was the owner of another Rolls-Royce powered car that was finished in British Racing Green. I had the pleasure of driving that at an Austin-Healey rally at Donington Park. That is the car in the Dutch Healey Museum.

 

The third example, also finished in white, ended up with Alan Casavant and as far as I know is in Switzerland.

 

Sometime in the 1980s or ?90s a replica was made in the UK by ex-pat Australian Keith Boyer and featured in a UK magazine. I have a recollection that it was finished in red, but I may be mistaken.

 

What is interesting is the chassis number of the car coming up for auction in Belgium (not the Netherlands) is BN4460941 while the chassis number of the car in Australia is F 41.

 

With anything that is rare, it?s always important to pay due diligence to its history.

 

Hoo Roo

 

Patrick Quinn

Blue Mountains, Australia 

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Just to veer this thread off slightly, wasn't Alan Casavant planning on
establishing a Healey museum somewhere in VA (VIR, maybe?) before divorce
reared its ugly head (coincidence. maybe not).  Does anyone recall what
cars he had actually purchased? I faintly recall his negotiating with Bill
Wood. Perhaps he ended up with the 100 display chassis?  Bill also wanted
to establish a Healey Museum at Lime Rock, but IIRC, he couldn't get Skip
Barber to go along with it.  These are all recollections of a 73 year-old
man and may be subject to memory lapses and interpretation.

Hi Ken, hope you've been well,

Rick Neville aka HealeyRick

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:43?PM KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> ?
> ?That?s is certainly not and original  from my knowledge . I also was in
> Alan car when he had it . It?s now in Switzerland I was told . I recall
> being three on e automatic .  None of them for red and did have this style
> dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as I have not looked
> closely but appears to be done well..
> Alan Hendrix had the car at shop for long periods and he could shed one
> light . The black 4000 is in Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year and
> Alan?s was white. I have photo of me in it somewhere .
> Ken
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> ?
> No doubt Kees and yet *there it is in print.*
>
> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant
> Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it
> was unimpressive.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
>> Kees Oudesluijs
>> Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>>
>> "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants,
>> keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>> --------------------------------------------
>> Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> For sale in NL.
>>>
>>>
>>> www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 10:44:22 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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Many years ago I was told that when Alan was drumming up support for his museum a number of people made certain contributions for display. And when the museum did to materialize some contributions were not returned.  


Richard Mayor
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> 
> Just to veer this thread off slightly, wasn't Alan Casavant planning on establishing a Healey museum somewhere in VA (VIR, maybe?) before divorce reared its ugly head (coincidence. maybe not).  Does anyone recall what cars he had actually purchased? I faintly recall his negotiating with Bill Wood. Perhaps he ended up with the 100 display chassis?  Bill also wanted to establish a Healey Museum at Lime Rock, but IIRC, he couldn't get Skip Barber to go along with it.  These are all recollections of a 73 year-old man and may be subject to memory lapses and interpretation.
> 
> Hi Ken, hope you've been well,
> 
> Rick Neville aka HealeyRick
> 
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:43?PM KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> ?
> ?That?s is certainly not and original  from my knowledge . I also was in Alan car when he had it . It?s now in Switzerland I was told . I recall being three on e automatic .  None of them for red and did have this style dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as I have not looked closely but appears to be done well.. 
> Alan Hendrix had the car at shop for long periods and he could shed one light . The black 4000 is in Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year and Alan?s was white. I have photo of me in it somewhere . 
> Ken
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com <mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> No doubt Kees and yet there it is in print.
>> 
>> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant  Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it was unimpressive. 
>> 
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl <mailto:coudesluijs at chello.nl>> wrote:
>> A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
>> Kees Oudesluijs
>> Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>>> "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>> For sale in NL.
>>> 
>>> www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral <http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral>
>>> 
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I have received info from someone who should know that the red ?4000? was based on a 100-Six chassis and ?restored? by two people in England, started by one now deceased and finished by another whose name I don?t have permission to release.   The UK registration was PSY 630.  The car was sold by the finisher to Holland.  The finisher always maintained it was a replica.  My informant saw it several times during its construction.

 

Steve Byers

BJ8/4000 Registries

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of HealeyRick
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 12:50 PM
To: KENNETH FLEMNG <ahmg at aol.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000

 

Just to veer this thread off slightly, wasn't Alan Casavant planning on establishing a Healey museum somewhere in VA (VIR, maybe?) before divorce reared its ugly head (coincidence. maybe not).  Does anyone recall what cars he had actually purchased? I faintly recall his negotiating with Bill Wood. Perhaps he ended up with the 100 display chassis?  Bill also wanted to establish a Healey Museum at Lime Rock, but IIRC, he couldn't get Skip Barber to go along with it.  These are all recollections of a 73 year-old man and may be subject to memory lapses and interpretation.

 

Hi Ken, hope you've been well,

 

Rick Neville aka HealeyRick

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:43?PM KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

?That?s is certainly not and original  from my knowledge . I also was in Alan car when he had it . It?s now in Switzerland I was told . I recall being three on e automatic .  None of them for red and did have this style dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as I have not looked closely but appears to be done well.. 

Alan Hendrix had the car at shop for long periods and he could shed one light . The black 4000 is in Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year and Alan?s was white. I have photo of me in it somewhere . 

Ken

Sent from my iPhone





On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com <mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com> > wrote:

?

No doubt Kees and yet there it is in print.

 

I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant  Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it was unimpressive. 

 

Best--Michael Oritt

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl <mailto:coudesluijs at chello.nl> > wrote:

A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:

"special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"

--------------------------------------------

Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

For sale in NL.

www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats <http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral> &utm_medium=referral

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That car confused me because in the photo of it I saw, supposedly in Australia, it was White and sported the license plate PWD663F, which is the same plate Alan Casevant?s car had during our mountain tour.  He sold it to Germany and everyone seems to agree it?s now in Switzerland, not Australia.

I sent a query to Mr. Rowland about the discrepancy, hoping he could clarify things, but he didn?t respond.

 

Steve Byers

BJ8 Registry

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Dimmock
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 10:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000

 

Doesn?t Peter Rowland (brother of Rob, Healey Factory Australia) own one?

Isn?t one of the original 4000?s still here in Australia?





On 23 Jan 2024, at 5:57?pm, KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?Hank,

I was at the museum I?m July and saw this one.

Ken

 

<IMG_2557.jpeg>





Sent from my iPhone





On Jan 22, 2024, at 9:21?PM, Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net <mailto:gradea1 at charter.net> > wrote:

?

Guys-the photos i sent earlier of the 3- 4000s clearly show 3 different side light configurations so no matter what color the cars are now, I'm sure that no one swapped any shrouds. Look closely at the photos-the first prototype had a combination of large and small Lucas lamps. Hank
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From: "KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > 
Reply-To: "KENNETH FLEMNG" <ahmg at aol.com <mailto:ahmg at aol.com> > 
To: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt at gmail.com <mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com> > 
Cc: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > 
Sent: Mon, Jan 22 2024 05:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000 
No Michael , that is fine . What prompted my response was I went to the ad and it said one of four. I believe there were only 3 but could be wrong but fairly sure none were red. If it?s a tool room copy i applaud to the owner for

his work. I have yet to look it closely but will. 

Ken

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jan 22, 2024, at 2:36?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com <mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Ken--

 

Perhaps I should not have assumed that the car pictured was in fact "the one true 4000".

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 12:44?PM KENNETH FLEMNG <ahmg at aol.com <mailto:ahmg at aol.com> > wrote:

That?s is certainly not and original  from my knowledge . I also was in Alan car when he had it . It?s now in Switzerland I was told . I recall being three on e automatic .  None of them for red and did have this style dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as I have not looked closely but appears to be done well..  

Alan Hendrix had the car at shop for long periods and he could shed one light . The black 4000 is in Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year and Alan?s was white. I have photo of me in it somewhere . 

Ken

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com <mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com> > wrote:

No doubt Kees and yet there it is in print.

 

I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant  Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it was unimpressive. 

 

Best--Michael Oritt

 

 

 

 

 


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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Tue Jan 23 12:03:37 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:03:37 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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Rick--

I can't now remember why I was present but in any case I am in some photos
taken at the Dedication by a "Future Home Of" sign along Pine Tree Road,
the entrance road leading to VIR proper.  It was really Bill Emerson's show
and though Connie Nyholm was probably there I can't now remember much
beyond that.

Best--Michael Oritt


On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 12:50?PM HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just to veer this thread off slightly, wasn't Alan Casavant planning on
> establishing a Healey museum somewhere in VA (VIR, maybe?) before divorce
> reared its ugly head (coincidence. maybe not).  Does anyone recall what
> cars he had actually purchased? I faintly recall his negotiating with Bill
> Wood. Perhaps he ended up with the 100 display chassis?  Bill also wanted
> to establish a Healey Museum at Lime Rock, but IIRC, he couldn't get Skip
> Barber to go along with it.  These are all recollections of a 73 year-old
> man and may be subject to memory lapses and interpretation.
>
> Hi Ken, hope you've been well,
>
> Rick Neville aka HealeyRick
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:43?PM KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> ?
>> ?That?s is certainly not and original  from my knowledge . I also was in
>> Alan car when he had it . It?s now in Switzerland I was told . I recall
>> being three on e automatic .  None of them for red and did have this style
>> dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as I have not looked
>> closely but appears to be done well..
>> Alan Hendrix had the car at shop for long periods and he could shed one
>> light . The black 4000 is in Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year and
>> Alan?s was white. I have photo of me in it somewhere .
>> Ken
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> No doubt Kees and yet *there it is in print.*
>>
>> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant
>> Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it
>> was unimpressive.
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words:
>>> BULLSHIT!!!!!!
>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>> Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>>>
>>> "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European
>>> variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>>> --------------------------------------------
>>> Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in
>>> line?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For sale in NL.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
>>>>
>>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>>>
>>>>
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From healeyrik at gmail.com  Tue Jan 23 12:07:32 2024
From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:07:32 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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Mike,

You're right.  I completely forgot that Bill was involved in the project as
well  Truth be told, we probably had more important Healeys, outside of
Arthur Carter's collection, in the states than in Europe/

On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 2:03?PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Rick--
>
> I can't now remember why I was present but in any case I am in some photos
> taken at the Dedication by a "Future Home Of" sign along Pine Tree Road,
> the entrance road leading to VIR proper.  It was really Bill Emerson's show
> and though Connie Nyholm was probably there I can't now remember much
> beyond that.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 12:50?PM HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just to veer this thread off slightly, wasn't Alan Casavant planning on
>> establishing a Healey museum somewhere in VA (VIR, maybe?) before divorce
>> reared its ugly head (coincidence. maybe not).  Does anyone recall what
>> cars he had actually purchased? I faintly recall his negotiating with Bill
>> Wood. Perhaps he ended up with the 100 display chassis?  Bill also wanted
>> to establish a Healey Museum at Lime Rock, but IIRC, he couldn't get Skip
>> Barber to go along with it.  These are all recollections of a 73 year-old
>> man and may be subject to memory lapses and interpretation.
>>
>> Hi Ken, hope you've been well,
>>
>> Rick Neville aka HealeyRick
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:43?PM KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> ?
>>> ?That?s is certainly not and original  from my knowledge . I also was in
>>> Alan car when he had it . It?s now in Switzerland I was told . I recall
>>> being three on e automatic .  None of them for red and did have this style
>>> dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as I have not looked
>>> closely but appears to be done well..
>>> Alan Hendrix had the car at shop for long periods and he could shed one
>>> light . The black 4000 is in Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year and
>>> Alan?s was white. I have photo of me in it somewhere .
>>> Ken
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ?
>>> No doubt Kees and yet *there it is in print.*
>>>
>>> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant
>>> Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it
>>> was unimpressive.
>>>
>>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words:
>>>> BULLSHIT!!!!!!
>>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>>> Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>>>>
>>>> "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European
>>>> variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>> Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in
>>>> line?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For sale in NL.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
>>>>>
>>>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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From: ahmg at aol.com (KENNETH FLEMNG)
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 14:14:19 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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From bn2cars at gmail.com  Wed Jan 24 17:59:45 2024
From: bn2cars at gmail.com (Donald Tate)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 19:59:45 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box
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Hi Bob,
Like you I purchased an uprated steering column for my 65 BJ8.  Today a buddy and I removed the old one and replaced it with the new one. 
I don?t believe it can be done with the grille surround in place as every bit of room was needed.  We even had to remove the 2 plates at the fire wall to gain the extra space afforded by the holes in the firewall.  We didn?t need to mess with the radiator. 
Otherwise it was fairly straightforward and it was made easier with a helper.  

Let me know if I can answer any questions. 

Don Tate
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2024, at 9:45?AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Listers,
> 
> I bought a DWM uprated steering box/shaft for my BJ8 several years ago. I'm getting a round tuit to install it, but removing the grill looks to be a bit of a pain. My questions:
> 
> 1) A noted Healey shop told me they were able to R&R a steering box on a 6-cyl car--the 4-cyl grills aren't hard to remove--without removing the grill. Anyone done this/know how it could be done?
> 
> 2) Does the radiator need to be drained and remove, or can it just be unbolted and move aside a couple inches (I did this on my BN2)? I'm willing to sacrifice the bolts that hold the box to the frame if I can avoid removing the radiator.
> 
> Any other tips and tricks welcome.
> 
> TIA,
> Bob
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Wed Jan 24 18:05:12 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:05:12 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box
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Thanks for the info, Don.? So, the surround has to come out in addition 
to the grille? Sounds like even more of a hassle :(

Tom Monaco told me his son R&R's a box w/o removing the grille, but 
couldn't tell me how he did it. Simon was kind enough to send a bunch of 
info, I'll did into it as soon as my tractor overhaul is done and it 
warms up a tad (it's been in the 50s!!!).

Bob


On 1/24/2024 4:59 PM, Donald Tate wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> Like you I purchased an uprated steering column for my 65 BJ8.  Today a buddy and I removed the old one and replaced it with the new one.
> I don?t believe it can be done with the grille surround in place as every bit of room was needed.  We even had to remove the 2 plates at the fire wall to gain the extra space afforded by the holes in the firewall.  We didn?t need to mess with the radiator.
> Otherwise it was fairly straightforward and it was made easier with a helper.
>
> Let me know if I can answer any questions.
>
> Don Tate
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 17, 2024, at 9:45?AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> ?Listers,
>>
>> I bought a DWM uprated steering box/shaft for my BJ8 several years ago. I'm getting a round tuit to install it, but removing the grill looks to be a bit of a pain. My questions:
>>
>> 1) A noted Healey shop told me they were able to R&R a steering box on a 6-cyl car--the 4-cyl grills aren't hard to remove--without removing the grill. Anyone done this/know how it could be done?
>>
>> 2) Does the radiator need to be drained and remove, or can it just be unbolted and move aside a couple inches (I did this on my BN2)? I'm willing to sacrifice the bolts that hold the box to the frame if I can avoid removing the radiator.
>>
>> Any other tips and tricks welcome.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Bob
>>   


From ross.osborne at xtra.co.nz  Wed Jan 24 18:55:49 2024
From: ross.osborne at xtra.co.nz (Ross Osborne)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 14:55:49 +1300
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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Michael

 

You are likely referring to the 50th Anniversary celebration of the 100/6 held at VIR on 29 September to 1 October 2006 in conjunction with a SVRA event in which you were participating.

Special guests included Gerry & Marion Coker and Bill Emerson presented the plans for the Austin Healey Museum which we know did not proceed.

A great weekend for us from down under.

 

Ross W Osborne 

 

Healey Registrar

Austin-Healey Car Club of New Zealand Inc.

   

 

From: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 8:04 AM
To: HealeyRick
Cc: KENNETH FLEMNG; Healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000

 

Rick--

 

I can't now remember why I was present but in any case I am in some photos taken at the Dedication by a "Future Home Of" sign along Pine Tree Road, the entrance road leading to VIR proper.  It was really Bill Emerson's show and though Connie Nyholm was probably there I can't now remember much beyond that.  

 

Best--Michael Oritt

 

 

On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 12:50?PM HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:

Just to veer this thread off slightly, wasn't Alan Casavant planning on establishing a Healey museum somewhere in VA (VIR, maybe?) before divorce reared its ugly head (coincidence. maybe not).  Does anyone recall what cars he had actually purchased? I faintly recall his negotiating with Bill Wood. Perhaps he ended up with the 100 display chassis?  Bill also wanted to establish a Healey Museum at Lime Rock, but IIRC, he couldn't get Skip Barber to go along with it.  These are all recollections of a 73 year-old man and may be subject to memory lapses and interpretation.

 

Hi Ken, hope you've been well,

 

Rick Neville aka HealeyRick

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:43?PM KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

?

?That?s is certainly not and original  from my knowledge . I also was in Alan car when he had it . It?s now in Switzerland I was told . I recall being three on e automatic .  None of them for red and did have this style dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as I have not looked closely but appears to be done well.. 

Alan Hendrix had the car at shop for long periods and he could shed one light . The black 4000 is in Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year and Alan?s was white. I have photo of me in it somewhere . 

Ken

Sent from my iPhone





On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com> wrote:

?

No doubt Kees and yet there it is in print.

 

I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant  Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it was unimpressive. 

 

Best--Michael Oritt

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl> wrote:

A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:

"special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants, keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"

--------------------------------------------

Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

For sale in NL.

www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats <http://www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral> &utm_medium=referral

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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Wed Jan 24 20:36:51 2024
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 22:36:51 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
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Ross--

Thank you for the memory jog.  In 2006 I was active in the Capital Area AHC
(Washington DC-based) and perhaps through Bill Emerson's friend Melody, who
was also a member, I wound up attending the dedication.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 8:56?PM Ross Osborne <ross.osborne at xtra.co.nz>
wrote:

> Michael
>
>
>
> You are likely referring to the 50th Anniversary celebration of the 100/6
> held at VIR on 29 September to 1 October 2006 in conjunction with a SVRA
> event in which you were participating.
>
> Special guests included Gerry & Marion Coker and Bill Emerson presented
> the plans for the Austin Healey Museum which we know did not proceed.
>
> A great weekend for us from down under.
>
>
>
> *Ross W Osborne *
>
>
>
> *Healey Registrar*
>
> *Austin-Healey Car Club of New Zealand Inc*.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2024 8:04 AM
> *To:* HealeyRick
> *Cc:* KENNETH FLEMNG; Healeys
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Austin-Healey 4000
>
>
>
> Rick--
>
>
>
> I can't now remember why I was present but in any case I am in some photos
> taken at the Dedication by a "Future Home Of" sign along Pine Tree Road,
> the entrance road leading to VIR proper.  It was really Bill Emerson's show
> and though Connie Nyholm was probably there I can't now remember much
> beyond that.
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 12:50?PM HealeyRick <healeyrik at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just to veer this thread off slightly, wasn't Alan Casavant planning on
> establishing a Healey museum somewhere in VA (VIR, maybe?) before divorce
> reared its ugly head (coincidence. maybe not).  Does anyone recall what
> cars he had actually purchased? I faintly recall his negotiating with Bill
> Wood. Perhaps he ended up with the 100 display chassis?  Bill also wanted
> to establish a Healey Museum at Lime Rock, but IIRC, he couldn't get Skip
> Barber to go along with it.  These are all recollections of a 73 year-old
> man and may be subject to memory lapses and interpretation.
>
>
>
> Hi Ken, hope you've been well,
>
>
>
> Rick Neville aka HealeyRick
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 2:43?PM KENNETH FLEMNG via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> ?That?s is certainly not and original  from my knowledge . I also was in
> Alan car when he had it . It?s now in Switzerland I was told . I recall
> being three on e automatic .  None of them for red and did have this style
> dash . Not commenting on the quality of the works as I have not looked
> closely but appears to be done well..
>
> Alan Hendrix had the car at shop for long periods and he could shed one
> light . The black 4000 is in Vreeland in the museum I saw in last year and
> Alan?s was white. I have photo of me in it somewhere .
>
> Ken
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:18?PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> ?
>
> No doubt Kees and yet *there it is in print.*
>
>
>
> I saw this car years ago when it was supposedly owned by Allen Casavant
> Something happened and he departed the scene as did the car.  I thought it
> was unimpressive.
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:59?AM Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs at chello.nl>
> wrote:
>
> A silly claim that cannot be substantiated. In other words: BULLSHIT!!!!!!
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
> Op 22-1-2024 om 15:38 schreef Michael Oritt:
>
> "special oil from Porsche North America (which, unlike European variants,
> keeps the temperature 15 degrees lower)"
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Ooh I want that!  Why don't we know about this and where do I get in line?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 9:00?AM Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> For sale in NL.
>
>
> www.troostwijkauctions.com/l/austin-healey-4000-rolls-royce-'4-litre'-(1-of-only-4)-rhd-A1-18089-6?utm_source=marktplaats&utm_medium=referral
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From bn2cars at gmail.com  Thu Jan 25 11:11:13 2024
From: bn2cars at gmail.com (Donald Tate)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 13:11:13 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box
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Hi Bob,
It is my opinion that the surround also needs to be removed.  Even then it took some maneuvering to get it out.  

I suppose you could try it with the surround in place and always remove it later.  

Good luck and let me know how it goes. 

Don
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2024, at 8:05?PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Thanks for the info, Don.  So, the surround has to come out in addition to the grille? Sounds like even more of a hassle :(
> 
> Tom Monaco told me his son R&R's a box w/o removing the grille, but couldn't tell me how he did it. Simon was kind enough to send a bunch of info, I'll did into it as soon as my tractor overhaul is done and it warms up a tad (it's been in the 50s!!!).
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
>> On 1/24/2024 4:59 PM, Donald Tate wrote:
>> Hi Bob,
>> Like you I purchased an uprated steering column for my 65 BJ8.  Today a buddy and I removed the old one and replaced it with the new one.
>> I don?t believe it can be done with the grille surround in place as every bit of room was needed.  We even had to remove the 2 plates at the fire wall to gain the extra space afforded by the holes in the firewall.  We didn?t need to mess with the radiator.
>> Otherwise it was fairly straightforward and it was made easier with a helper.
>> 
>> Let me know if I can answer any questions.
>> 
>> Don Tate
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jan 17, 2024, at 9:45?AM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Listers,
>>> 
>>> I bought a DWM uprated steering box/shaft for my BJ8 several years ago. I'm getting a round tuit to install it, but removing the grill looks to be a bit of a pain. My questions:
>>> 
>>> 1) A noted Healey shop told me they were able to R&R a steering box on a 6-cyl car--the 4-cyl grills aren't hard to remove--without removing the grill. Anyone done this/know how it could be done?
>>> 
>>> 2) Does the radiator need to be drained and remove, or can it just be unbolted and move aside a couple inches (I did this on my BN2)? I'm willing to sacrifice the bolts that hold the box to the frame if I can avoid removing the radiator.
>>> 
>>> Any other tips and tricks welcome.
>>> 
>>> TIA,
>>> Bob
>>>  
> 

From roggrace at telus.net  Thu Jan 25 12:26:40 2024
From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 11:26:40 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Electronic Distributor
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I have the 123 installed with BT tune on 2 x BJ8 cars. Initially had one
with USB connection for several years, then upgraded.
I do believe that the CSI is very similar and quite coincidentally is also
made in the Netherlands - maybe a branded version ?
Yes they are great and easy to set up. I always do an initial confirming
check with a timing light too. Reassuring to know no points, springs or
weight wear to affect the timing. Also great to be able to drive about and
be able to see the actual advance and vacuum under different driving
conditions - I use a tablet on the passenger seat.
rg

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 9:43?AM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

> AHSpares just let me know about a new toy. I am always amazed and
> delighted when someone comes up something new and high-tech for our old
> cars, but I gotta believe any performance enhancement--for street cars
> anyway--would be negligible? Could be a boon for anyone with a worn-out
> distributor though.
>
>
> https://www.ahspares.co.uk/news/optimise-your-austin-healey-engine-performance-with-csi-electronic-distributors.aspx
>
> Bob
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From sgerow2 at gmail.com  Thu Jan 25 17:47:11 2024
From: sgerow2 at gmail.com (Steve Gerow)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 16:47:11 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box removal - notes
Message-ID: <CA+myF4pFDuciQYY-wEKD2eS4uuqFrLXkLr-kOF4eYzwfvOrnMw@mail.gmail.com>

I had mine out several times a couple of years ago.

I can see you might be able to do it without removing the grille - IF the
radiator and engine were out.

I removed the grille, but not the upper or lower surrounds. If the mounting
bolt heads are pointed inward towards the radiator, the radiator will have
to come out.

If you're lucky, the bolt heads will be in the fender well - if that's the
case you can pull the box without removing the radiator. You'll need to
rotate the box some, per Bentley, to get the pittman arm through the grille
opening.

Needless to say, when you install the new box, make sure to insert the
mounting bolts from the fender well side.

The "Steering Column Sealing Plate" (with the big rubber grommet at the
firewall) is not symmetrical. Mark which side is up, as you'll need to
loosely install it next to the firewall and push the steering column
through it. I was not able to rotate it with the column in place - at first
I had it aligned incorrectly.

-- 
*Steve Gerow*
*Altadena CA*

*'59 BN6*
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Thu Jan 25 18:26:58 2024
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 17:26:58 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box removal - notes
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"If the mounting bolt heads are pointed inward towards the radiator, the 
radiator will have to come out."

This is why I mentioned I might be willing to sacrifice these bolts, 
using a cutoff wheel or sawzall; assuming, of course, they aren't 
unobtanium. I've always wondered why they were installed bolt head next 
to radiator except, of course, it doesn't much matter before the rad 
gets installed.

Thanks for the info, Steve.

Bob


On 1/25/2024 4:47 PM, Steve Gerow wrote:
> I had mine out several times a couple of years ago.
>
> I can see you might be able to do it without removing the grille - IF 
> the radiator and engine were out.
>
> I removed the grille, but not the upper or lower surrounds. If the 
> mounting bolt heads are pointed inward towards the radiator, the 
> radiator will have to come out.
>
> If you're lucky, the bolt heads will be in the fender well - if that's 
> the case you can pull the box without removing the radiator. You'll 
> need to rotate the box some, per Bentley, to get the pittman arm 
> through the grille opening.
>
> Needless to say, when you install the new box, make sure to insert the 
> mounting bolts from the fender well side.
>
> The "Steering Column Sealing Plate" (with the big rubber grommet at 
> the firewall) is not symmetrical. Mark which side is up, as you'll 
> need to loosely install it next to the firewall and push the steering 
> column through it. I was not able to rotate it with the column in 
> place - at first I had it aligned incorrectly.
>
> -- 
> *Steve Gerow*
> *Altadena CA*
> *'59 BN6
> *
>
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Thu Jan 25 20:33:29 2024
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 22:33:29 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box removal - notes
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Just wondering Steve if removing the Pitman arm before extracting the
steering box would make things easier?

M

On Thu., Jan. 25, 2024, 7:57 p.m. Steve Gerow, <sgerow2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I had mine out several times a couple of years ago.
>
> I can see you might be able to do it without removing the grille - IF the
> radiator and engine were out.
>
> I removed the grille, but not the upper or lower surrounds. If the
> mounting bolt heads are pointed inward towards the radiator, the radiator
> will have to come out.
>
> If you're lucky, the bolt heads will be in the fender well - if that's the
> case you can pull the box without removing the radiator. You'll need to
> rotate the box some, per Bentley, to get the pittman arm through the grille
> opening.
>
> Needless to say, when you install the new box, make sure to insert the
> mounting bolts from the fender well side.
>
> The "Steering Column Sealing Plate" (with the big rubber grommet at the
> firewall) is not symmetrical. Mark which side is up, as you'll need to
> loosely install it next to the firewall and push the steering column
> through it. I was not able to rotate it with the column in place - at first
> I had it aligned incorrectly.
>
> --
> *Steve Gerow*
> *Altadena CA*
>
> *'59 BN6*
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From bn2cars at gmail.com  Fri Jan 26 06:48:42 2024
From: bn2cars at gmail.com (Donald Tate)
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 08:48:42 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box removal - notes
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Mine were installed inwards and they came out to my surprise. I did remove the pitman arm.  
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> On Jan 25, 2024, at 9:46?PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> ? "If the mounting bolt heads are pointed inward towards the radiator, the radiator will have to come out."
> 
> This is why I mentioned I might be willing to sacrifice these bolts, using a cutoff wheel or sawzall; assuming, of course, they aren't unobtanium. I've always wondered why they were installed bolt head next to radiator except, of course, it doesn't much matter before the rad gets installed.
> 
> Thanks for the info, Steve.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On 1/25/2024 4:47 PM, Steve Gerow wrote:
>> I had mine out several times a couple of years ago.
>> 
>> I can see you might be able to do it without removing the grille - IF the radiator and engine were out.
>> 
>> I removed the grille, but not the upper or lower surrounds. If the mounting bolt heads are pointed inward towards the radiator, the radiator will have to come out.
>> 
>> If you're lucky, the bolt heads will be in the fender well - if that's the case you can pull the box without removing the radiator. You'll need to rotate the box some, per Bentley, to get the pittman arm through the grille opening.
>> 
>> Needless to say, when you install the new box, make sure to insert the mounting bolts from the fender well side.
>> 
>> The "Steering Column Sealing Plate" (with the big rubber grommet at the firewall) is not symmetrical. Mark which side is up, as you'll need to loosely install it next to the firewall and push the steering column through it. I was not able to rotate it with the column in place - at first I had it aligned incorrectly.
>> 
>> --
>> Steve Gerow
>> Altadena CA
>> '59 BN6
>> 
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