From rubino at truespeed.ca  Wed Feb  5 09:25:59 2025
From: rubino at truespeed.ca (rubino at truespeed.ca)
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2025 16:25:59 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] front brake drums
Message-ID: <em63fdfc7f-0f8b-47f0-81ad-cff22f758922@p6520f>

Looking for a source of front brake drums for my 57 100-6.
I have spent a lot of time over the years getting rid of the healey 
shake and want really good ones. Any suggestions?
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From manifold at telus.net  Wed Feb  5 17:44:32 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2025 16:44:32 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Mystery Horns
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCD5aH-jZiu0YVPH_cQ1cozC=8qhpOt295tQRuPjqvHTWw@mail.gmail.com>

I was going through an old box of parts that came with my Mk l BT7 and
found two horns that don't appear to be original to the car. They are
painted a very dark green, which looks to be original, and have a somewhat
British appearance. I couldn't find any identifying marks on them. Picture
attached.

Would anyone happen to know what they might be?

Thanks,
Harold
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Thu Feb  6 05:10:34 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 12:10:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] front brake drums
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References: <em63fdfc7f-0f8b-47f0-81ad-cff22f758922@p6520f>
Message-ID: <332539505.9217749.1738843834199@mail.yahoo.com>

I would switch to front discs for safer stops?the stock early or late 3000 setup works great. If you must stick with front drums (the rears work well and needn?t be changed to discs as the front brakes do more of the work??anyway), consider switching to Alfin alloy drums, which being lighter, should address the shake you mention. They aren?t cheap, but neither is a swap to?front discs. Good luck!


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From fredwescoe at gmail.com  Thu Feb  6 09:09:03 2025
From: fredwescoe at gmail.com (Fred Wescoe)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 11:09:03 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
Message-ID: <CAPAC+V78MmEDsjF3XM6pfSdVN8N1iCbxSgYG4bcF=a162di3UA@mail.gmail.com>

Listers,

I am soon going to replace the tires on my 66 BJ8.

Currently, my tires (Pirelli P 6000) are showing wear in the middle of the
tread and slight wear on the outside and inside edge of the tires.  I am
running 30 lbs in the tires.

What pressure do most of you use?

Thanks,

Fred
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From manifold at telus.net  Thu Feb  6 09:28:56 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:28:56 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] front brake drums
In-Reply-To: <332539505.9217749.1738843834199@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <em63fdfc7f-0f8b-47f0-81ad-cff22f758922@p6520f>
 <332539505.9217749.1738843834199@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCAR2877SU-SeLOuWtt5-8mPPRYe1u+sM3xd1cvRnoPBZQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there,

If you choose to stay with the OEM cast drums, I strongly recommend having
them statically balanced. I only have experience with the rear drums, and I
didn't initially think they were a problem. However, after balancing them,
I was surprised by the amount of weight added and material removed to
achieve a static balance.

Best of luck,
Harold


On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 4:26?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I would switch to front discs for safer stops?the stock early or late 3000
> setup works great. If you must stick with front drums (the rears work well
> and needn?t be changed to discs as the front brakes do more of the
> work  anyway), consider switching to Alfin alloy drums, which being
> lighter, should address the shake you mention. They aren?t cheap, but
> neither is a swap to front discs. Good luck!
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
> On Thursday, February 6, 2025, 1:02 AM, carl and gerry rubino via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Looking for a source of front brake drums for my 57 100-6.
> I have spent a lot of time over the years getting rid of the healey shake
> and want really good ones. Any suggestions?
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From roggrace at telus.net  Thu Feb  6 09:40:51 2025
From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:40:51 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
In-Reply-To: <CAPAC+V78MmEDsjF3XM6pfSdVN8N1iCbxSgYG4bcF=a162di3UA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V78MmEDsjF3XM6pfSdVN8N1iCbxSgYG4bcF=a162di3UA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALPtYiOABjJ-07q6Muk1ye5j7oxJV2WwcYJHo1aqsmyMED8y2w@mail.gmail.com>

28/30 F/R per recommendation from Longstone Tyres in UK.
Use Mich 180HR XAS that v happy with.
rg.

On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 8:34?AM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> I am soon going to replace the tires on my 66 BJ8.
>
> Currently, my tires (Pirelli P 6000) are showing wear in the middle of the
> tread and slight wear on the outside and inside edge of the tires.  I am
> running 30 lbs in the tires.
>
> What pressure do most of you use?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred
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From manifold at telus.net  Thu Feb  6 09:44:00 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:44:00 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
In-Reply-To: <CAPAC+V78MmEDsjF3XM6pfSdVN8N1iCbxSgYG4bcF=a162di3UA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V78MmEDsjF3XM6pfSdVN8N1iCbxSgYG4bcF=a162di3UA@mail.gmail.com>
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Fred,

30psi with Michelin XAS 180HR15. If you want to go down a rabbit hole look
into the tire contact patch calculator.

On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 8:19?AM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Listers,
>
> I am soon going to replace the tires on my 66 BJ8.
>
> Currently, my tires (Pirelli P 6000) are showing wear in the middle of the
> tread and slight wear on the outside and inside edge of the tires.  I am
> running 30 lbs in the tires.
>
> What pressure do most of you use?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred
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From sbyers at ec.rr.com  Thu Feb  6 09:45:01 2025
From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 11:45:01 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
In-Reply-To: <CAPAC+V78MmEDsjF3XM6pfSdVN8N1iCbxSgYG4bcF=a162di3UA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V78MmEDsjF3XM6pfSdVN8N1iCbxSgYG4bcF=a162di3UA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <028e01db78b6$77c91750$675b45f0$@ec.rr.com>

I have always used 30 psi in front and rear in my ?66 BJ8, since 1984.   The current set is Nexen, installed new in 2015 and now with 11,000 miles.  I haven?t driven the car much since the 6000 mile roundtrip to AHCA Conclave in South Dakota in 2019, thanks to Covid and then the focus on restoration of another car and none of the tires are showing wear.  It?s too bad about waste of aging tires, isn?t it?
 
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC
 
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 11:09 AM
To: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
 
Listers,
 
I am soon going to replace the tires on my 66 BJ8.
 
Currently, my tires (Pirelli P 6000) are showing wear in the middle of the tread and slight wear on the outside and inside edge of the tires.  I am running 30 lbs in the tires.
 
What pressure do most of you use?
 
Thanks,
 
Fred
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From warthodson at aol.com  Thu Feb  6 10:09:49 2025
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:09:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
In-Reply-To: <CAPAC+V78MmEDsjF3XM6pfSdVN8N1iCbxSgYG4bcF=a162di3UA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V78MmEDsjF3XM6pfSdVN8N1iCbxSgYG4bcF=a162di3UA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <963454861.7927126.1738861789261@mail.yahoo.com>

 Fred,.?I am running 32psi front, 30psi rear. My tyres are 185/80VR15's Michelins. I have approx. 6000 miles on them & so far they are showing uniform wear across the treads.?Gary Hodson
    On Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 10:44:04 AM CST, Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com> wrote:   

 Listers,
I am soon going to replace the tires on my 66 BJ8.
Currently, my tires (Pirelli P 6000) are showing wear in the middle of the tread and slight wear on the outside and inside edge?of the tires.? I am running 30 lbs in the tires.
What pressure do most of you use?
Thanks,
Fred_______________________________________________
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Thu Feb  6 10:50:08 2025
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:50:08 -0000
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
In-Reply-To: <CAPAC+V78MmEDsjF3XM6pfSdVN8N1iCbxSgYG4bcF=a162di3UA@mail.gmail.com>
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I run 32lb sq in front and 34 at rear. Some people say that?s a bit high?.

Simon

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe
Sent: 06 February 2025 16:09
To: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Tires

 

Listers,

 

I am soon going to replace the tires on my 66 BJ8.

 

Currently, my tires (Pirelli P 6000) are showing wear in the middle of the tread and slight wear on the outside and inside edge of the tires.  I am running 30 lbs in the tires.

 

What pressure do most of you use?

 

Thanks,

 

Fred

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From drtommitch at gmail.com  Thu Feb  6 11:13:45 2025
From: drtommitch at gmail.com (Tom Mitchell)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 13:13:45 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
In-Reply-To: <CALPtYiOABjJ-07q6Muk1ye5j7oxJV2WwcYJHo1aqsmyMED8y2w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPAC+V78MmEDsjF3XM6pfSdVN8N1iCbxSgYG4bcF=a162di3UA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALPtYiOABjJ-07q6Muk1ye5j7oxJV2WwcYJHo1aqsmyMED8y2w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOqP0S+0edUux9dvHQNiQwxD+Hp+VSjs3awhpHDpbPXHhUeZ+Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I use Michelin XAS | 180HR15, running at 28 PSI in the front and 30 PSI in
the rear.
I had them shaved, mounted and balanced by Allen Hendrix.
I am very happy with the work, and the tires.

Tom Mitchell
Ann Arbor, Mi. 48103
65 BJ8 Mark III BRG


On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 1:05?PM Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net> wrote:

> 28/30 F/R per recommendation from Longstone Tyres in UK.
> Use Mich 180HR XAS that v happy with.
> rg.
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 8:34?AM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> I am soon going to replace the tires on my 66 BJ8.
>>
>> Currently, my tires (Pirelli P 6000) are showing wear in the middle of
>> the tread and slight wear on the outside and inside edge of the tires.  I
>> am running 30 lbs in the tires.
>>
>> What pressure do most of you use?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Fred
>> _______________________________________________
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Thu Feb  6 11:40:49 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 18:40:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
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Or Vredestein 165/80-15, closest to the original bias ply size. H rating.?


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On Thursday, February 6, 2025, 1:21 PM, Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net> wrote:

28/30 F/R per recommendation from Longstone Tyres in UK.Use Mich 180HR XAS that v happy with.rg.

On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 8:34?AM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com> wrote:

Listers,
I am soon going to replace the tires on my 66 BJ8.
Currently, my tires (Pirelli P 6000) are showing wear in the middle of the tread and slight wear on the outside and inside edge?of the tires.? I am running 30 lbs in the tires.
What pressure do most of you use?
Thanks,
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From llennep at verizon.net  Thu Feb  6 13:41:22 2025
From: llennep at verizon.net (llennep at verizon.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 20:41:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] front brake drums
In-Reply-To: <CAFP1XCAR2877SU-SeLOuWtt5-8mPPRYe1u+sM3xd1cvRnoPBZQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <em63fdfc7f-0f8b-47f0-81ad-cff22f758922@p6520f>
 <332539505.9217749.1738843834199@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <713019131.9481896.1738874482156@mail.yahoo.com>

I 2nd that motion.



 

    On Thursday, February 6, 2025, 12:48:25 PM EST, Harold Manifold <manifold at telus.net> wrote:   

 Hi there,
If you choose to stay with the OEM cast drums, I strongly recommend having them statically balanced. I only have experience with the rear drums, and I didn't initially think they were a problem. However, after balancing them, I was surprised by the amount of weight added and material removed to achieve a static balance. 
Best of luck,Harold 

On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 4:26?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

I would switch to front discs for safer stops?the stock early or late 3000 setup works great. If you must stick with front drums (the rears work well and needn?t be changed to discs as the front brakes do more of the work??anyway), consider switching to Alfin alloy drums, which being lighter, should address the shake you mention. They aren?t cheap, but neither is a swap to?front discs. Good luck!


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Looking for a source of front brake drums for my 57 100-6.I have spent a lot of time over the years getting rid of the healey shake and want really good ones. Any suggestions?_______________________________________________
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Thu Feb  6 15:23:07 2025
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 17:23:07 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
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I too have XAS's--my second set--and I run 30 PSI all around.  My car,
being a BN1 is a bit lighter than later models, but I don't think it
matters.
Great tires.

Best--Michael Oritt


On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 4:12?PM warthodson--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Fred,.
> I am running 32psi front, 30psi rear. My tyres are 185/80VR15's Michelins.
> I have approx. 6000 miles on them & so far they are showing uniform wear
> across the treads.
> Gary Hodson
>
> On Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 10:44:04 AM CST, Fred Wescoe <
> fredwescoe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Listers,
>
> I am soon going to replace the tires on my 66 BJ8.
>
> Currently, my tires (Pirelli P 6000) are showing wear in the middle of the
> tread and slight wear on the outside and inside edge of the tires.  I am
> running 30 lbs in the tires.
>
> What pressure do most of you use?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred
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From warthodson at aol.com  Thu Feb  6 16:57:02 2025
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 23:57:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
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 Simon, I think the test of that is how are your tires wearing? It the pressure is too high they will wear in the center.I am sure you already know that!Gary Hodson
    On Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 03:49:07 PM CST, Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:   

 
I run 32lb sq in front and 34 at rear. Some people say that?s a bit high?.

Simon

 ?

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Fred Wescoe
Sent: 06 February 2025 16:09
To: healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Tires

 ?

Listers,

 ?

I am soon going to replace the tires on my 66 BJ8.

 ?

Currently, my tires (Pirelli P 6000) are showing wear in the middle of the tread and slight wear on the outside and inside edge?of the tires.? I am running 30 lbs in the tires.

 ?

What pressure do most of you use?

 ?

Thanks,

 ?

Fred
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  6 17:27:08 2025
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:27:08 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] front brake drums
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I Agree with Harold. If you stick with drums, having them balanced by a good machine shop will go a long way towards making the car smoother.

 

I have had the rear drums balanced on multiple Healeys and it always helped. 

 

Funny story: on the last car, I asked at the parts store whether their machine shop could balance drums? They ?corrected? me and told me I meant have the drums turned? After much back and forth, we agreed that I knew what I wanted and they could do it. But, they patted me on the head and said this will be easy because how far out of balance could the drums be??

 

A couple of hours later the machine shop called asking how much clearance is there between the drum and the wheel? It turned out just trimming the fins wasn?t going to cut it, and he had to weld in substantial weight to compensate for the bad casting!  I took him the wheel, hub and spinner so he could see how it all fit up, and the work was done in short order. The machinist was amazed the casting could be that far off, and I was amazed at just how much smoother the car ran down the road.  And that was the rear drums!  Just imagine what balancing front drums will do for the car.

 

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All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Harold Manifold
Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2025 8:29 AM
To: Robert Markovich <rmarkovich at aol.com>
Cc: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] front brake drums

 

Hi there,

 

If you choose to stay with the OEM cast drums, I strongly recommend having them statically balanced. I only have experience with the rear drums, and I didn't initially think they were a problem. However, after balancing them, I was surprised by the amount of weight added and material removed to achieve a static balance. 

 

Best of luck,

Harold 

 

 

On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 4:26?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

I would switch to front discs for safer stops?the stock early or late 3000 setup works great. If you must stick with front drums (the rears work well and needn?t be changed to discs as the front brakes do more of the work  anyway), consider switching to Alfin alloy drums, which being lighter, should address the shake you mention. They aren?t cheap, but neither is a swap to front discs. Good luck!



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On Thursday, February 6, 2025, 1:02 AM, carl and gerry rubino via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Looking for a source of front brake drums for my 57 100-6.

I have spent a lot of time over the years getting rid of the healey shake and want really good ones. Any suggestions?

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From peterroses at sbcglobal.net  Thu Feb  6 17:27:29 2025
From: peterroses at sbcglobal.net (Peter Roses)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 00:27:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 18, Issue 14
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Subject [Healeys] front brake drums
I sorted my BN6 drum issues by having a shop balance my drums. I used an agricultural machine shop in Oxnard Ca, as there are a lot of farms in that area. They balanced all four drums for about $100.?
FYI-I would always balance the tires/wheels on the vehicle, there was no problem after the drum balance work.?


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Looking for a source of front brake drums for my 57 100-6.
I have spent a lot of time over the years getting rid of the healey 
shake and want really good ones. Any suggestions?
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From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com  Thu Feb  6 18:49:21 2025
From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 01:49:21 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
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I have 185x70 HR15 Vredenstein with tubes with 28 lb all around running evenly on my BN7.

I have been running tracks and instructing for a number of years with Porsches. Last year for the first time my front tires corded in the middle and not the edges. Falken RT 660 with a 200 wear rating. First time with that tire. That condition typically exists when tires overheat and expand getting rounder. Sometimes my tire pressure will increase 10-12 lbs. I check air A lot obviously for handling.
    So my question would be to Fred: are you driving somehow where tire heat is putting 6-8 lbs of extra pressure in your tires ?

Regards,
Richard C


On Feb 6, 2025, at 16:36, Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

? Or Vredestein 165/80-15, closest to the original bias ply size. H rating.


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On Thursday, February 6, 2025, 1:21 PM, Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net> wrote:

28/30 F/R per recommendation from Longstone Tyres in UK.
Use Mich 180HR XAS that v happy with.
rg.

On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 8:34?AM Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe at gmail.com<mailto:fredwescoe at gmail.com>> wrote:
Listers,

I am soon going to replace the tires on my 66 BJ8.

Currently, my tires (Pirelli P 6000) are showing wear in the middle of the tread and slight wear on the outside and inside edge of the tires.  I am running 30 lbs in the tires.

What pressure do most of you use?

Thanks,

Fred
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From rjhco459 at gmail.com  Fri Feb  7 08:10:14 2025
From: rjhco459 at gmail.com (Richard Jim Hockert)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 09:10:14 -0600
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From pdzwig at summaventures.com  Fri Feb  7 15:59:19 2025
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 22:59:19 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Tires
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Although in a slightly different context I am finding that Pirellis 
suffer quite badly after a while, on the walls in particular, after long 
runs in upper 20s - 40C, although they are manufacturer-specified on my 
non-Healey daily driver. The first set I got had to be replaced after 
less than half their anticipated life.

I gather that a lot of people prefer the Michelin option to the Pirellis 
for my car. The walls seem, in general, to be more robust.

Just to be clear I am not talking of a Healey here. On that I run mostly 
Vredensteins. I have heard good things about Yokos on Healeys, too. 
Though clearly not OE. :-)

2p, FWIW

Peter

On 06/02/2025 16:45, sbyers--- via Healeys wrote:
> I have always used 30 psi in front and rear in my ?66 BJ8, since 
> 1984.The current set is Nexen, installed new in 2015 and now with 11,000 
> miles.I haven?t driven the car much since the 6000 mile roundtrip to 
> AHCA Conclave in South Dakota in 2019, thanks to Covid and then the 
> focus on restoration of another car and none of the tires are showing 
> wear.It?s too bad about waste of aging tires, isn?t it?
> 
> Steve Byers
> 
> HBJ8L/36666
> 
> BJ8 Registry
> 
> AHCA Delegate at Large
> 
> Havelock, NC
> 
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Fred Wescoe
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 6, 2025 11:09 AM
> *To:* healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Tires
> 
> Listers,
> 
> I am soon going to replace the tires on my 66 BJ8.
> 
> Currently, my tires (Pirelli P 6000) are showing wear in the middle of 
> the tread and slight wear on the outside and inside edge?of the tires.  
> I am running 30 lbs in the tires.
> 
> What pressure do most of you use?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Fred
> 
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Thu Feb 13 11:54:10 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 10:54:10 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Grease
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Written WRT aircraft, but applicable to autos:

https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2025/february/04/aircraft-maintenance-understanding-aviation-greases?utm_source=ebrief&utm_medium=email

From phoenix722 at comcast.net  Sun Feb 16 09:14:27 2025
From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 08:14:27 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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Is it me, or is the list quiet?? I haven't seen anything for quite a while?

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From manifold at telus.net  Sun Feb 16 09:29:43 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 08:29:43 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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Hi Mike,

You're right, it has been unusually quiet on the list lately. Perhaps
everyone's Austin-Healey is running smoothly, or maybe they're tucked away
for the winter.

Best regards,
Harold


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From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com  Sun Feb 16 09:42:29 2025
From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 16:42:29 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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Quiet for the moment!
Fire it up and ask what oil should we use that has enough zddp in it.   :-)
I use Castrol GTX
Regards,
Richard C


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?

Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a while?

Mike

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From javrugtman at htcnet.org  Sun Feb 16 10:37:11 2025
From: javrugtman at htcnet.org (John Vrugtman)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 12:37:11 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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Around here it's either snowing, raining, freezing, or all at the same time.

John
Hightown, VA

On 2/16/2025 11:29 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> You're right, it has been unusually quiet on the list lately. Perhaps 
> everyone's Austin-Healey is running smoothly, or maybe they're tucked 
> away for the winter.
>
> Best regards,
> Harold
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 8:24?AM Mike Sinclair via Healeys 
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From warthodson at aol.com  Sun Feb 16 10:41:16 2025
From: warthodson at aol.com (warthodson at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 17:41:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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 The list has been very quiet for a long time.How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1??The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the windscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all material where necessary.?Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the necessary components.
Gary Hodson
?
    On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:   

   
Is it me, or is the list quiet?? I haven't seen anything for quite a while?
 
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Sun Feb 16 11:56:05 2025
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:56:05 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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We need a good argument to bring everyone out of their holes.
How about whether or not fender flashes should be installed backwards in
the Southern hemisphere?
Also, I've never gotten a good answer as to why the dash was dropped from
Austin-Healey.

As for me, I've been pretty busy installing new door panels, etc. and doing
a bunch of interior stuff.
I leave for Sebring, FL on March 4 where I'm racing my Ginetta in the HSR
12-hour event.  My plan is to take the Auto-Train down and drive back on
the smaller roads of 17/301.
Auto-Train has a minimum ground-clearance requirement of 4" and I have a
good 4-1/4" between the back edge of the muffler and the floor.
It's been a while since I've done a road trip and I'm excited!

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 12:53?PM Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Quiet for the moment!
> Fire it up and ask what oil should we use that has enough zddp in it.
> :-)
> I use Castrol GTX
> Regards,
> Richard C
>
>
> On Feb 16, 2025, at 10:25, Mike Sinclair via Healeys <
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> ?
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> Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a while?
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Sun Feb 16 11:58:03 2025
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:58:03 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 16 12:16:02 2025
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 14:16:02 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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Very good question.
All the work that you describe requires an individual with significant
skill(s). These tasks are not something that your "run of the mill" parts
changer can undertake.  In our part of the world (Canada) those "parts
changers", without breaking a sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which
equates to $50/hr. $50/hr paid to the tradesman will typically be charged
out at an hourly rate of at least $100.
In my book a full restoration takes 1200 hours at least, usually a lot more
to produce concours standards.
So labour ONLY $120K.
Parts and materials usually at least 50% of labour. $60K.
Incidentals at least another $20K
It's getting up there ??

M


On Sun., Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> The list has been very quiet for a long time.
> How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1?
> The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final
> fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.
> Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the
> windscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all material
> where necessary.
> Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the necessary
> components.
>
> Gary Hodson
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via Healeys
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a while?
>
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From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com  Sun Feb 16 12:48:23 2025
From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 19:48:23 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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I have been helping a friend with the restoration of an early BN1 and yes if one wants to do it properly, finding all the correct parts is difficult and time consuming. As far as the cost is concerned, it all depends how much of it can one do himself and  how much is done by a restoration shop. The bodywork itself is but a small part of a restoration and no matter how good your paintjob looks, the prep work beforehand and the alignment of ALL the panels in relation to each other is really what makes a restoration.

Jean
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Sent: February 16, 2025 5:41 PM
To: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>; Mike Sinclair <phoenix722 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hello

The list has been very quiet for a long time.
How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1?
The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.
Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the windscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all material where necessary.
Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the necessary components.

Gary Hodson



On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:



Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a while?

Mik

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From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com  Sun Feb 16 12:53:22 2025
From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 19:53:22 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Healey List quiet -  Here is a topic: 100M on BAT  -
Message-ID: <BL0PR11MB3396CA120EA8F724EC69F58DD1F82@BL0PR11MB3396.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

There has been several 100 lately on BAT with some nice prices achieved and yet others barely made a decent price, hard to say what cause these fluctuations, not enough description, not enough photos car not described properly?
Then now we have a 100M that less than a year ago was sold on BAT for $150,000.00 and now is on sale again from a different dealer. The description leaves a lot of questions, how will this affect the price?

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From sbyers at ec.rr.com  Sun Feb 16 13:05:03 2025
From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 15:05:03 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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I can tell you for BJ8s that most of them, when they come up for sale, next turn up in Europe (France, Germany, England, or Holland) or Australia.  That seems to be where the market is now.
 
Steve Byers
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
 
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Hank Leach via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 1:58 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hello
 
Folks- what I think should be the topic for conversation is: "What to do with our Healeys". This year I will be 82 and I am storing 2 Austin-Healeys and one Jensen-Healey in my garage. Two are for sale, and have been for sale for sometime, with no one interested in purchasing or even inquiring about their condition. My recently departed, good friend's stable of Concours Gold Healeys have been literally given away on BAT for half of what they are worth.
 
Our various clubs memberships are steadily declining and no younger folks are stepping up to acquire the cars left in their absence. Just look at the slew of cars sitting on ebay (some from our group member's stable) that are just not selling no matter the cheap bids and prices.
 
Interest in old British cars has been replaced by modern day Broncos and cyber trucks or voltage vehicles. In the near future the only "pump" available at the gas station will be a charging station.
 
So the topic above needs to be addressed with some creative thinking of what can we do to find a home for our Healeys when we can no longer bend down to change the oil. Museums won't be interested in hundreds of Austin-Healeys on their floor-maybe just one example will suffice-the rest ?. Just my take on current affairs. Hank

-------------------- 

From: "John Vrugtman via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > 
Reply-To: "John Vrugtman" <javrugtman at htcnet.org <mailto:javrugtman at htcnet.org> > 
To: <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > 
Sent: February 16, 2025 at 10:22 AM PST 
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hello 
Around here it's either snowing, raining, freezing, or all at the same time.

John
Hightown, VA
On 2/16/2025 11:29 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
Hi Mike,
 
You're right, it has been unusually quiet on the list lately. Perhaps everyone's Austin-Healey is running smoothly, or maybe they're tucked away for the winter.
 
Best regards,
Harold
 
 
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Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a while?
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 16 14:13:51 2025
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:13:51 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Cost to restore a BN1 ?
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It obviously depends from where you start.


?


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From marknmon at gmail.com  Sun Feb 16 14:39:47 2025
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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 13:39:47 -0800
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Sun Feb 16 15:19:31 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 22:19:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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I have restored a BN1. The Four offers unique challenges compared with the Six, with a much longer stroke and but three main bearings. I would suggest anyone count on a new steel crank, adding a harmonic balancer and lighter flywheel to lessen torsional stress on the crank, and an alloy head as most originals are trash by now. Cost: an easy $20k with labor. Scary? Yes. But that?s how to do if of you want an engine you can rely on and drive as it was?meant to be driven. The later Six really was an improvement overall and are known to be bulletproof for a reason. My two cents ?


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On Sunday, February 16, 2025, 1:54 PM, warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

 The list has been very quiet for a long time.How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1??The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the windscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all material where necessary.?Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the necessary components.
Gary Hodson
?
    On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:   

   
Is it me, or is the list quiet?? I haven't seen anything for quite a while?
 
Mik
 
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From sentenac.rw at gmail.com  Sun Feb 16 16:06:33 2025
From: sentenac.rw at gmail.com (Roland Wilhelmy)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 15:06:33 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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Well, I acquired my BN1 in 1997.  It was restored to Concours specs by
2022.  Meanwhile I had to learn how to weld (gas and MIG), sand blast, do
extensive rust repair, finish panels, apply hardened paints, r&r engine,
tranny, rear end, find quality chrome platers, locate various hen's teeth
items, obtain and install wiring harness, fuel and brake systems.  Numerous
people helped me tremendously along the way and I couldn't have done it
without them.  Roger Moment was of singularly continuous, consistent advice
and source of unavailable parts.  Things I did not do myself: engine and
tranny rebuild, chrome plating, upholstery, wheel balancing beyond static
balance.  What did it cost?  I have no idea.  A lot of the parts and
outside labor were done several years ago when they cost less than they do
now.  What is it worth to me now?  A lifetime of experience and
experiences.  At 87 this is probably my last Healey.

-Roland Wilhelmy
BN1 #724
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From rcw414 at icloud.com  Sun Feb 16 16:10:18 2025
From: rcw414 at icloud.com (James Frey)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:10:18 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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The costs you cite below are inexorably linked to the ?What to Do with our Healeys? question that was also raised.  Over the last several years, I have restored/built 3 cars with most of the work done by a local shop (one of which was a Bugeye).  I needed to have most work performed by my shop.  Although my skills are moderate and I enjoy turning wrenches, my time available to do so has lessened in recent years.  

Given the above circumstances, I have easily spent 2-3 times market value on the purchase price, work performed, parts, etc.  I consider myself lucky to have a trusted local shop, but depending on where you live (even assuming you are willing to spend the money), it can be extraordinarily difficult to get the cars serviced, let alone have significant restoration work done.  I also don?t see the value of most Healeys going up much, and it might go down given the (arguably) shrinking market/demographics for these cars.  

So given my recent experience, as much as I might love to own a BJ8 and would consider myself ?a trusted steward?, paying significant dollars (even for a beautifully restored car) in a declining market might not be the best idea.  As for a car that ?needs work?, I?m starting to feel like I?ve been there and done that a little too often.  Also, there are fun (more modern) cars out there for similar dollars that don?t present the same financial risk and difficulties in selling.  

Lastly, I?m 61 (so not ?young?) and I think those that are younger than me are an even tougher sell.  I have 2 adult sons that have a moderate interest in cars and the ?old cars? they might have an interest in are probably from 2000-2010.  

The market is undeniably softer than previously, but I actually think current values are a sellers market, even in the US.  With the potential for declining demand, it?s hard for me to see an improving Healey market over the next 10+ years.  

Jim



> On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:16?PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Very good question. 
> All the work that you describe requires an individual with significant skill(s). These tasks are not something that your "run of the mill" parts changer can undertake.  In our part of the world (Canada) those "parts changers", without breaking a sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which equates to $50/hr. $50/hr paid to the tradesman will typically be charged out at an hourly rate of at least $100.
> In my book a full restoration takes 1200 hours at least, usually a lot more to produce concours standards.
> So labour ONLY $120K.
> Parts and materials usually at least 50% of labour. $60K.
> Incidentals at least another $20K
> It's getting up there ??
> 
> M
> 
> 
> On Sun., Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> The list has been very quiet for a long time.
>> How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1? 
>> The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.
>> Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the windscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all material where necessary. 
>> Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the necessary components.
>> 
>> Gary Hodson
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a while?
>> 
>> Mik
>> 
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Sun Feb 16 16:53:36 2025
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 18:53:36 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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Hank--

I'm also 82 (next week).  I say that the answer is to drive them for as
long as we can.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:13?PM Hank Leach via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Folks- what I think should be the topic for conversation is: *"What to do
> with our Healeys".* This year I will be 82 and I am storing 2
> Austin-Healeys and one Jensen-Healey in my garage. Two are for sale, and
> have been for sale for sometime, with no one interested in purchasing or
> even inquiring about their condition. My recently departed, good friend's
> stable of Concours Gold Healeys have been literally given away on BAT for
> half of what they are worth.
>
> Our various clubs memberships are steadily declining and no younger folks
> are stepping up to acquire the cars left in their absence. Just look at the
> slew of cars sitting on ebay (some from our group member's stable) that are
> just not selling no matter the cheap bids and prices.
>
> Interest in old British cars has been replaced by modern day Broncos and
> cyber trucks or voltage vehicles. In the near future the only "pump"
> available at the gas station will be a charging station.
>
> So the topic above needs to be addressed with some creative thinking of
> what can we do to find a home for our Healeys when we can no longer bend
> down to change the oil. Museums won't be interested in hundreds of
> Austin-Healeys on their floor-maybe just one example will suffice-the rest
> ?. Just my take on current affairs. Hank
>
> --------------------
>
> From: "John Vrugtman via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Reply-To: "John Vrugtman" <javrugtman at htcnet.org>
> To: <healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: February 16, 2025 at 10:22 AM PST
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hello
> Around here it's either snowing, raining, freezing, or all at the same
> time.
>
> John
> Hightown, VA
>
> On 2/16/2025 11:29 AM, Harold Manifold wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> You're right, it has been unusually quiet on the list lately. Perhaps
> everyone's Austin-Healey is running smoothly, or maybe they're tucked away
> for the winter.
>
> Best regards,
> Harold
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 8:24?AM Mike Sinclair via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a
>> while?
>>
>> Mike
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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Sun Feb 16 17:06:22 2025
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 19:06:22 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Thermostat gasket sealant
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My 100 will not come up to temperature (at least yet) with a 160
thermostat.  I am putting in a 180 and wonder what is the preferred gasket
dressing?

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From michael.oritt at gmail.com  Sun Feb 16 21:30:28 2025
From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:30:28 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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If we really want to stimulate traffic on the site and don't mind feeling
suicidal let's discuss the probabilities of developing prostate cancer
(which I've had).
For me I'd rather read about something related to the use of our cars and I
still haven't seen a response to my question about thermostat gasket
sealant.

Best--Michael Oritt



On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 9:01?PM James Frey via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> The costs you cite below are inexorably linked to the ?What to Do with our
> Healeys? question that was also raised.  Over the last several years, I
> have restored/built 3 cars with most of the work done by a local shop (one
> of which was a Bugeye).  I needed to have most work performed by my shop.
> Although my skills are moderate and I enjoy turning wrenches, my time
> available to do so has lessened in recent years.
>
> Given the above circumstances, I have easily spent 2-3 times market value
> on the purchase price, work performed, parts, etc.  I consider myself lucky
> to have a trusted local shop, but depending on where you live (even
> assuming you are willing to spend the money), it can be extraordinarily
> difficult to get the cars serviced, let alone have significant restoration
> work done.  I also don?t see the value of most Healeys going up much, and
> it might go down given the (arguably) shrinking market/demographics for
> these cars.
>
> So given my recent experience, as much as I might love to own a BJ8 and
> would consider myself ?a trusted steward?, paying significant dollars (even
> for a beautifully restored car) in a declining market might not be the best
> idea.  As for a car that ?needs work?, I?m starting to feel like I?ve been
> there and done that a little too often.  Also, there are fun (more modern)
> cars out there for similar dollars that don?t present the same financial
> risk and difficulties in selling.
>
> Lastly, I?m 61 (so not ?young?) and I think those that are younger than me
> are an even tougher sell.  I have 2 adult sons that have a moderate
> interest in cars and the ?old cars? they might have an interest in are
> probably from 2000-2010.
>
> The market is undeniably softer than previously, but I actually think
> current values are a sellers market, even in the US.  With the potential
> for declining demand, it?s hard for me to see an improving Healey market
> over the next 10+ years.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:16?PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Very good question.
> All the work that you describe requires an individual with significant
> skill(s). These tasks are not something that your "run of the mill" parts
> changer can undertake.  In our part of the world (Canada) those "parts
> changers", without breaking a sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which
> equates to $50/hr. $50/hr paid to the tradesman will typically be charged
> out at an hourly rate of at least $100.
> In my book a full restoration takes 1200 hours at least, usually a lot
> more to produce concours standards.
> So labour ONLY $120K.
> Parts and materials usually at least 50% of labour. $60K.
> Incidentals at least another $20K
> It's getting up there ??
>
> M
>
>
> On Sun., Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> The list has been very quiet for a long time.
>> How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1?
>> The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final
>> fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.
>> Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the
>> windscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all material
>> where necessary.
>> Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the necessary
>> components.
>>
>> Gary Hodson
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via
>> Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a
>> while?
>>
>> Mik
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From sbyers at ec.rr.com  Mon Feb 17 04:34:23 2025
From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 06:34:23 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Thermostat gasket sealant
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Since I tried Hylomar, it is all that I use on gaskets (Permatex has an equivalent).  It seals well and is non-setting.
For thermostats, I tried the sleeved 160 that Moss offered (apparently no one had a sleeved 180) in my BJ8 and found that in the wintertime I had to actually block half of the radiator to get the coolant to come up to temperature.  Later, I was fortunate to be able to score an original NOS sleeved 180 made by AC from Kees Oudersluijs who was active on this list and got a couple of spares as insurance.  
A thermostat doesn?t really ?control? the coolant temperature, but reacts to it depending on the coolant flow and temperature of the air through the radiator.   Initially, it limits the flow for faster warm-up of the engine.  Once it is wide open, it is out of the loop.
 
Steve Byers
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
 
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 7:06 PM
To: Healeys at Autox <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Thermostat gasket sealant
 
My 100 will not come up to temperature (at least yet) with a 160 thermostat.  I am putting in a 180 and wonder what is the preferred gasket dressing?
 
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From manifold at telus.net  Mon Feb 17 10:11:11 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 09:11:11 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Thermostat gasket sealant
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Hello,

There's been a comment that the list has been quiet lately and we need a
topic that will generate more discussion. I'd like to suggest Healey
cooling and thermostats as a potential topic.

A general comment about systems with a control valve, which describes a
Healey cooling system: for the system to be controlled by the thermostat,
it should never be 100% open or closed. When fully open or closed, the
thermostat isn't controlling. Ideally, the thermostat would be 50% open
when the engine is fully warmed up on a 70?F day. I've found my 180?
thermostat controls well in the summer, but when the temperature drops
below 60?F, it takes a long time for the thermostat to start opening, and
it likely operates in a narrow portion of its range. It makes sense to
switch to a 160? thermostat for driving in temperatures below 60?F for
extended periods.

There's a bypass in the block that allows water to recirculate without
crossing the thermostat and entering the radiator. This aids faster warm-up
and prevents the water pump from dead-heading when the thermostat is
closed. As others have mentioned, the older bellows-style thermostats had a
sleeve that restricted bypass flow as the thermostat opened. I've been told
the 4-cylinder Healey engines lack this bypass. Blocking the bypass will
slow engine warm-up; the bypass should be restricted once the water reaches
180?.

I'm aware of a couple of options to restrict the bypass. The easiest is to
use a FlowKooler thermostat, which I use. They're high-quality, high-flow
thermostats that partially restrict the bypass when open. The other
practical option is to modify a Land Rover thermostat (Land Rover
Thermostat 596225, for those interested). The sleeve must be cut off the
top so it sits flush in the housing. I used a Dremel to cut the sleeve off
and have pictures if anyone is interested.

You have the correct temperature thermostat when the water temperature
stays within 20?F of the opening temperature under most driving conditions.

Comments are welcome.

Regards,
Harold


On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 3:44?AM sbyers--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Since I tried Hylomar, it is all that I use on gaskets (Permatex has an
> equivalent).  It seals well and is non-setting.
>
> For thermostats, I tried the sleeved 160 that Moss offered (apparently no
> one had a sleeved 180) in my BJ8 and found that in the wintertime I had to
> actually block half of the radiator to get the coolant to come up to
> temperature.  Later, I was fortunate to be able to score an original NOS
> sleeved 180 made by AC from Kees Oudersluijs who was active on this list
> and got a couple of spares as insurance.
>
> A thermostat doesn?t really ?control? the coolant temperature, but reacts
> to it depending on the coolant flow and temperature of the air through the
> radiator.   Initially, it limits the flow for faster warm-up of the
> engine.  Once it is wide open, it is out of the loop.
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Oritt
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 7:06 PM
> *To:* Healeys at Autox <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Thermostat gasket sealant
>
>
>
> My 100 will not come up to temperature (at least yet) with a 160
> thermostat.  I am putting in a 180 and wonder what is the preferred gasket
> dressing?
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 17:36:15 +0000
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 15:51:42 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] The Future of Healey Ownership
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Michael, Jim and All:

 

Your comments below have me thinking about what I have valued in my Austin-Healeys, and by extension what others do, will, or might value in them ? as balanced against the costs of buying, restoring, upgrading or maintaining the cars.

 

The Healey was never the fastest car I owned, and it was never the absolute best handling (though, the last BJ-8 with a new frame and gas shocks does handle pretty well). Obviously the Healey never had the most up-to-date safety features, and its exterior and dash lighting needed LED upgrades to perform even adequately. The list of things the cars were not is endless I compared to modern cars?

 

BUT: driving a Healey usually put a smile on my face, and it appeared to put smiles on a lot of other people?s faces when out and about. As you all know, you cannot drive one of these cars without getting smiles, waves, thumbs-up, casual nods, etc ? all acknowledging the wonderful looks the Healeys have!  If you park one, you will undoubtedly find your self in a conversation with someone who either had one and sold it, wished he had bought one way back when, wished he could buy one now, had an uncle who had one, or a cousin, or a friend?s dad, or, or, or? - you know how it goes!  

 

As much fun as it has been to drive my Healeys all over the US and Canada, as well as Norway, Denmark and Sweden ? I can say that maintaining the cars has been the sore spot for me, and I?m now at an age and physical condition where it?s somewhere between really-not-fun, really-not-practical and really-not-possible anymore. As such, this conversation hits home for me.

 

SO ? what do I think about the future of Healey ownership? I suspect there will always be a small cadre of serious collectors who want and value cars that are as original as possible (whether ?concours? level, or just plain nice cars!). The pool of cars that survive in such condition is shrinking gradually, but then so is the pool of such people! 

 

I also suspect that there is a substantial and growing group who would love the opportunity to have a car with the classic styling of an Austin-Healey, but the reliability and drivability of a modern car. ?Modern? in this context may well be a very plastic term ? meaning different things to different generations.  For today?s purposes I ask you all whether the future might be electric? An Austin-Healey that has good acceleration and brakes, good handling, no fluid leaks (!!) and far fewer to no 60 year-old parts to go bad ? all combined with the classic lines of the Healey.

 

What do you say?

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James Frey via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:10 PM
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
Cc: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hello

 

The costs you cite below are inexorably linked to the ?What to Do with our Healeys? question that was also raised.  Over the last several years, I have restored/built 3 cars with most of the work done by a local shop (one of which was a Bugeye).  I needed to have most work performed by my shop.  Although my skills are moderate and I enjoy turning wrenches, my time available to do so has lessened in recent years.  

 

Given the above circumstances, I have easily spent 2-3 times market value on the purchase price, work performed, parts, etc.  I consider myself lucky to have a trusted local shop, but depending on where you live (even assuming you are willing to spend the money), it can be extraordinarily difficult to get the cars serviced, let alone have significant restoration work done.  I also don?t see the value of most Healeys going up much, and it might go down given the (arguably) shrinking market/demographics for these cars.  

 

So given my recent experience, as much as I might love to own a BJ8 and would consider myself ?a trusted steward?, paying significant dollars (even for a beautifully restored car) in a declining market might not be the best idea.  As for a car that ?needs work?, I?m starting to feel like I?ve been there and done that a little too often.  Also, there are fun (more modern) cars out there for similar dollars that don?t present the same financial risk and difficulties in selling.  

 

Lastly, I?m 61 (so not ?young?) and I think those that are younger than me are an even tougher sell.  I have 2 adult sons that have a moderate interest in cars and the ?old cars? they might have an interest in are probably from 2000-2010.  

 

The market is undeniably softer than previously, but I actually think current values are a sellers market, even in the US.  With the potential for declining demand, it?s hard for me to see an improving Healey market over the next 10+ years.  

 

Jim

 

 





On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:16?PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Very good question. 

All the work that you describe requires an individual with significant skill(s). These tasks are not something that your "run of the mill" parts changer can undertake.  In our part of the world (Canada) those "parts changers", without breaking a sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which equates to $50/hr. $50/hr paid to the tradesman will typically be charged out at an hourly rate of at least $100.

In my book a full restoration takes 1200 hours at least, usually a lot more to produce concours standards.

So labour ONLY $120K.

Parts and materials usually at least 50% of labour. $60K.

Incidentals at least another $20K

It's getting up there ??

 

M

 

 

On Sun., Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

The list has been very quiet for a long time.

How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1? 

The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.

Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the windscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all material where necessary. 

Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the necessary components.

 

Gary Hodson

 

 

 

On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a while?

Mik

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Conversion of Healeys to electric power is already happening.   I know of three BJ8s that were sold individually to England and a company in London called ?Revival Autos? was doing that conversion.  They were also offering the original engine from one of the cars on eBay.  They also have an address in Naples, FL  and San Francisco
https://revivalautos
 
Steve Byers
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of alfuller194 at gmail.com
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2025 6:52 PM
To: 'James Frey' <rcw414 at icloud.com>; 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Healey List' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] The Future of Healey Ownership
 
Michael, Jim and All:
 
Your comments below have me thinking about what I have valued in my Austin-Healeys, and by extension what others do, will, or might value in them ? as balanced against the costs of buying, restoring, upgrading or maintaining the cars.
 
The Healey was never the fastest car I owned, and it was never the absolute best handling (though, the last BJ-8 with a new frame and gas shocks does handle pretty well). Obviously the Healey never had the most up-to-date safety features, and its exterior and dash lighting needed LED upgrades to perform even adequately. The list of things the cars were not is endless I compared to modern cars?
 
BUT: driving a Healey usually put a smile on my face, and it appeared to put smiles on a lot of other people?s faces when out and about. As you all know, you cannot drive one of these cars without getting smiles, waves, thumbs-up, casual nods, etc ? all acknowledging the wonderful looks the Healeys have!  If you park one, you will undoubtedly find your self in a conversation with someone who either had one and sold it, wished he had bought one way back when, wished he could buy one now, had an uncle who had one, or a cousin, or a friend?s dad, or, or, or? - you know how it goes!  
 
As much fun as it has been to drive my Healeys all over the US and Canada, as well as Norway, Denmark and Sweden ? I can say that maintaining the cars has been the sore spot for me, and I?m now at an age and physical condition where it?s somewhere between really-not-fun, really-not-practical and really-not-possible anymore. As such, this conversation hits home for me.
 
SO ? what do I think about the future of Healey ownership? I suspect there will always be a small cadre of serious collectors who want and value cars that are as original as possible (whether ?concours? level, or just plain nice cars!). The pool of cars that survive in such condition is shrinking gradually, but then so is the pool of such people! 
 
I also suspect that there is a substantial and growing group who would love the opportunity to have a car with the classic styling of an Austin-Healey, but the reliability and drivability of a modern car. ?Modern? in this context may well be a very plastic term ? meaning different things to different generations.  For today?s purposes I ask you all whether the future might be electric? An Austin-Healey that has good acceleration and brakes, good handling, no fluid leaks (!!) and far fewer to no 60 year-old parts to go bad ? all combined with the classic lines of the Healey.
 
What do you say?
 
-----------------------------------
All the best,
 
Al Fuller
 
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of James Frey via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:10 PM
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> >
Cc: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hello
 
The costs you cite below are inexorably linked to the ?What to Do with our Healeys? question that was also raised.  Over the last several years, I have restored/built 3 cars with most of the work done by a local shop (one of which was a Bugeye).  I needed to have most work performed by my shop.  Although my skills are moderate and I enjoy turning wrenches, my time available to do so has lessened in recent years.  
 
Given the above circumstances, I have easily spent 2-3 times market value on the purchase price, work performed, parts, etc.  I consider myself lucky to have a trusted local shop, but depending on where you live (even assuming you are willing to spend the money), it can be extraordinarily difficult to get the cars serviced, let alone have significant restoration work done.  I also don?t see the value of most Healeys going up much, and it might go down given the (arguably) shrinking market/demographics for these cars.  
 
So given my recent experience, as much as I might love to own a BJ8 and would consider myself ?a trusted steward?, paying significant dollars (even for a beautifully restored car) in a declining market might not be the best idea.  As for a car that ?needs work?, I?m starting to feel like I?ve been there and done that a little too often.  Also, there are fun (more modern) cars out there for similar dollars that don?t present the same financial risk and difficulties in selling.  
 
Lastly, I?m 61 (so not ?young?) and I think those that are younger than me are an even tougher sell.  I have 2 adult sons that have a moderate interest in cars and the ?old cars? they might have an interest in are probably from 2000-2010.  
 
The market is undeniably softer than previously, but I actually think current values are a sellers market, even in the US.  With the potential for declining demand, it?s hard for me to see an improving Healey market over the next 10+ years.  
 
Jim
 
 
 
On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:16?PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> > wrote:
 
Very good question. 
All the work that you describe requires an individual with significant skill(s). These tasks are not something that your "run of the mill" parts changer can undertake.  In our part of the world (Canada) those "parts changers", without breaking a sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which equates to $50/hr. $50/hr paid to the tradesman will typically be charged out at an hourly rate of at least $100.
In my book a full restoration takes 1200 hours at least, usually a lot more to produce concours standards.
So labour ONLY $120K.
Parts and materials usually at least 50% of labour. $60K.
Incidentals at least another $20K
It's getting up there ??
 
M
 
 
On Sun., Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:
The list has been very quiet for a long time.
How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1? 
The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.
Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the windscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all material where necessary. 
Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the necessary components.
 
Gary Hodson
 
 
 
On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote: 
 
 
Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a while?
Mik
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Hi all, thanks for your thoughts Al; things that many (most?) of us have thought about.  I was with you until the last paragraph.  I have always been of a mind with Austin-Healeys (Healeys) that there are enough of them around (well, excluding a few rare models), that I have never been offended when somebody customizes them to suit their own tastes.  I feel differently with rare cars as I think there is some obligation on behalf of those owners to preserve some history, but I don?t feel that way about Healeys.  I had a number of ?discussions? with Rich Chrysler about this and as many of you know he was an uber-ardent supporter of complete originality; they were ?interesting? discussions!

 

However, for me, owning and driving a Healey (I am a second owner and have had my BT7 for 50 years in a few months) goes beyond what it looks like or its mediocre performance and questionable handling (mine is bog stock).  There is an indefinable ?essence of Healey? that I love.  At some point, as the number of modifications increase, it becomes, for me, less of a Healey.  I enjoy its quirks.  If I wanted a safe, reliable better performing hobby car, I would buy one.  If my Healey lets me down on the road, and it rarely has, I have confidence that because it is mechanically simple I can fix a lot of it roadside and carry tools and spares to do a lot.  Granted, most of my drives are under 100 km from home, but I have driven a few times through the eastern states (I am near Toronto, ON),  done a few laps of Lime Rock in it, and driven to friends in southern Michigan, and frankly if I had reason, would be OK driving it anywhere in North America. I know I could get more accurate timing with a modified distributor and electronic ignition, but I enjoy occasionally setting  the point gap and timing; I like the ?open? look of 48 spokes, so when I replaced the wheels, that is what I bought ? painted; I don?t have a modified starter, or a spin-on filter; I have the original mechanical regulator and a generator, run original lights all around and it has the original radiator, bellows thermostat and original fan (and no cooling issues).  I feel that every one of the modifications available to us, although technically sound, detracts to varying degrees from it being a Healey.  As for an electric ?Healey?, well for me that is simply no longer a Healey.  I can even live with owners dropping V-8s into them, at least that was a period conversion ? it represents part of the spectrum of Healeys I saw as a teenager, (though I waffle on whether I can think of them as Healeys).  ?Nasty Boys?  don?t appeal to me, but nor do they bother me.  I am not completely obsessed with originality.  For example I run modern tires of the correct size (i.e., not biased-ply) and I use modern lubricants.  

 

It is not about the styling, it is about it being a Healey.  However, I recognize and respect that we all feel differently and I am OK with that.  I will continue to strive to maintain mine as close as I can to when it came out of the factory (thank you all the authors of the concours guidelines!), pretty much with the same conviction as Rich had, but for different reasons ? I just enjoy driving something that old (and older ? I have M.G.s from the 30s and 40s). I enjoy it for what it is, a beautiful, reliable for its time, 65 year-old English sports car.  If the younger generation don?t want that, then they can buy something else.  I confess I am lucky in that I have a 38 year-old son who is mechanically minded and loves the old technology.  He will get mine.

 

This is an old argument with, in my opinion, no rights or wrongs, and I was going to stay silent, but heck, its late, I am tired, and probably made a bad decision!

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of alfuller194 at gmail.com
Sent: February 17, 2025 6:52 PM
To: 'James Frey' <rcw414 at icloud.com>; 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Healey List' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] The Future of Healey Ownership

 

Michael, Jim and All:

 

Your comments below have me thinking about what I have valued in my Austin-Healeys, and by extension what others do, will, or might value in them ? as balanced against the costs of buying, restoring, upgrading or maintaining the cars.

 

The Healey was never the fastest car I owned, and it was never the absolute best handling (though, the last BJ-8 with a new frame and gas shocks does handle pretty well). Obviously the Healey never had the most up-to-date safety features, and its exterior and dash lighting needed LED upgrades to perform even adequately. The list of things the cars were not is endless I compared to modern cars?

 

BUT: driving a Healey usually put a smile on my face, and it appeared to put smiles on a lot of other people?s faces when out and about. As you all know, you cannot drive one of these cars without getting smiles, waves, thumbs-up, casual nods, etc ? all acknowledging the wonderful looks the Healeys have!  If you park one, you will undoubtedly find your self in a conversation with someone who either had one and sold it, wished he had bought one way back when, wished he could buy one now, had an uncle who had one, or a cousin, or a friend?s dad, or, or, or? - you know how it goes!  

 

As much fun as it has been to drive my Healeys all over the US and Canada, as well as Norway, Denmark and Sweden ? I can say that maintaining the cars has been the sore spot for me, and I?m now at an age and physical condition where it?s somewhere between really-not-fun, really-not-practical and really-not-possible anymore. As such, this conversation hits home for me.

 

SO ? what do I think about the future of Healey ownership? I suspect there will always be a small cadre of serious collectors who want and value cars that are as original as possible (whether ?concours? level, or just plain nice cars!). The pool of cars that survive in such condition is shrinking gradually, but then so is the pool of such people! 

 

I also suspect that there is a substantial and growing group who would love the opportunity to have a car with the classic styling of an Austin-Healey, but the reliability and drivability of a modern car. ?Modern? in this context may well be a very plastic term ? meaning different things to different generations.  For today?s purposes I ask you all whether the future might be electric? An Austin-Healey that has good acceleration and brakes, good handling, no fluid leaks (!!) and far fewer to no 60 year-old parts to go bad ? all combined with the classic lines of the Healey.

 

What do you say?

 

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 

Al Fuller

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of James Frey via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:10 PM
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> >
Cc: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hello

 

The costs you cite below are inexorably linked to the ?What to Do with our Healeys? question that was also raised.  Over the last several years, I have restored/built 3 cars with most of the work done by a local shop (one of which was a Bugeye).  I needed to have most work performed by my shop.  Although my skills are moderate and I enjoy turning wrenches, my time available to do so has lessened in recent years.  

 

Given the above circumstances, I have easily spent 2-3 times market value on the purchase price, work performed, parts, etc.  I consider myself lucky to have a trusted local shop, but depending on where you live (even assuming you are willing to spend the money), it can be extraordinarily difficult to get the cars serviced, let alone have significant restoration work done.  I also don?t see the value of most Healeys going up much, and it might go down given the (arguably) shrinking market/demographics for these cars.  

 

So given my recent experience, as much as I might love to own a BJ8 and would consider myself ?a trusted steward?, paying significant dollars (even for a beautifully restored car) in a declining market might not be the best idea.  As for a car that ?needs work?, I?m starting to feel like I?ve been there and done that a little too often.  Also, there are fun (more modern) cars out there for similar dollars that don?t present the same financial risk and difficulties in selling.  

 

Lastly, I?m 61 (so not ?young?) and I think those that are younger than me are an even tougher sell.  I have 2 adult sons that have a moderate interest in cars and the ?old cars? they might have an interest in are probably from 2000-2010.  

 

The market is undeniably softer than previously, but I actually think current values are a sellers market, even in the US.  With the potential for declining demand, it?s hard for me to see an improving Healey market over the next 10+ years.  

 

Jim

 

 

 

On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:16?PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Very good question. 

All the work that you describe requires an individual with significant skill(s). These tasks are not something that your "run of the mill" parts changer can undertake.  In our part of the world (Canada) those "parts changers", without breaking a sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which equates to $50/hr. $50/hr paid to the tradesman will typically be charged out at an hourly rate of at least $100.

In my book a full restoration takes 1200 hours at least, usually a lot more to produce concours standards.

So labour ONLY $120K.

Parts and materials usually at least 50% of labour. $60K.

Incidentals at least another $20K

It's getting up there ??

 

M

 

 

On Sun., Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

The list has been very quiet for a long time.

How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1? 

The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.

Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the windscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all material where necessary. 

Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the necessary components.

 

Gary Hodson

 

 

 

On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote: 

 

 

Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a while?

Mik

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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 17 20:19:17 2025
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:19:17 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] The Future of Healey Ownership
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Hi Mirek, first off I'm glad you responded - no worries at all. Second,
sorry we didn't get to meet when I lived in southeast lower Michigan
(Windsor, Ontario was what I saw from my office window in Detroit). If you
visit Last Vegas look me up!

I fully understand your thoughts on the Healey, and hopefully we will hear
from more folks and have well rounded discussion.

For the record, I was asking a question and not advocating a position.

Cheers,

________________
Sent from my phone
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Mon, Feb 17, 2025, 5:53?PM <m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Hi all, thanks for your thoughts Al; things that many (most?) of us have
> thought about.  I was with you until the last paragraph.  I have always
> been of a mind with Austin-Healeys (Healeys) that there are enough of them
> around (well, excluding a few rare models), that I have never been offended
> when somebody customizes them to suit their own tastes.  I feel differently
> with rare cars as I think there is some obligation on behalf of those
> owners to preserve some history, but I don?t feel that way about Healeys.
> I had a number of ?discussions? with Rich Chrysler about this and as many
> of you know he was an uber-ardent supporter of complete originality; they
> were ?interesting? discussions!
>
>
>
> However, for me, owning and driving a Healey (I am a second owner and have
> had my BT7 for 50 years in a few months) goes beyond what it looks like or
> its mediocre performance and questionable handling (mine is bog stock).
> There is an indefinable ?essence of Healey? that I love.  At some point, as
> the number of modifications increase, it becomes, for me, less of a
> Healey.  I enjoy its quirks.  If I wanted a safe, reliable better
> performing hobby car, I would buy one.  If my Healey lets me down on the
> road, and it rarely has, I have confidence that because it is mechanically
> simple I can fix a lot of it roadside and carry tools and spares to do a
> lot.  Granted, most of my drives are under 100 km from home, but I have
> driven a few times through the eastern states (I am near Toronto, ON),
> done a few laps of Lime Rock in it, and driven to friends in southern
> Michigan, and frankly if I had reason, would be OK driving it anywhere in
> North America. I know I could get more accurate timing with a modified
> distributor and electronic ignition, but I enjoy occasionally setting  the
> point gap and timing; I like the ?open? look of 48 spokes, so when I
> replaced the wheels, that is what I bought ? painted; I don?t have a
> modified starter, or a spin-on filter; I have the original mechanical
> regulator and a generator, run original lights all around and it has the
> original radiator, bellows thermostat and original fan (and no cooling
> issues).  I feel that every one of the modifications available to us,
> although technically sound, detracts to varying degrees from it being a
> Healey.  As for an electric ?Healey?, well for me that is simply no longer
> a Healey.  I can even live with owners dropping V-8s into them, at least
> that was a period conversion ? it represents part of the spectrum of
> Healeys I saw as a teenager, (though I waffle on whether I can think of
> them as Healeys).  ?Nasty Boys?  don?t appeal to me, but nor do they bother
> me.  I am not completely obsessed with originality.  For example I run
> modern tires of the correct size (i.e., not biased-ply) and I use modern
> lubricants.
>
>
>
> It is not about the styling, it is about it being a Healey.  However, I
> recognize and respect that we all feel differently and I am OK with that.
> I will continue to strive to maintain mine as close as I can to when it
> came out of the factory (thank you all the authors of the concours
> guidelines!), pretty much with the same conviction as Rich had, but for
> different reasons ? I just enjoy driving something that old (and older ? I
> have M.G.s from the 30s and 40s). I enjoy it for what it is, a beautiful,
> reliable for its time, 65 year-old English sports car.  If the younger
> generation don?t want that, then they can buy something else.  I confess I
> am lucky in that I have a 38 year-old son who is mechanically minded and
> loves the old technology.  He will get mine.
>
>
>
> This is an old argument with, in my opinion, no rights or wrongs, and I
> was going to stay silent, but heck, its late, I am tired, and probably made
> a bad decision!
>
>
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *
> alfuller194 at gmail.com
> *Sent:* February 17, 2025 6:52 PM
> *To:* 'James Frey' <rcw414 at icloud.com>; 'Michael Salter' <
> michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Healey List' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] The Future of Healey Ownership
>
>
>
> Michael, Jim and All:
>
>
>
> Your comments below have me thinking about what I have valued in my
> Austin-Healeys, and by extension what others do, will, or might value in
> them ? as balanced against the costs of buying, restoring, upgrading or
> maintaining the cars.
>
>
>
> The Healey was never the fastest car I owned, and it was never the
> absolute best handling (though, the last BJ-8 with a new frame and gas
> shocks does handle pretty well). Obviously the Healey never had the most
> up-to-date safety features, and its exterior and dash lighting needed LED
> upgrades to perform even adequately. The list of things the cars were not
> is endless I compared to modern cars?
>
>
>
> BUT: driving a Healey usually put a smile on my face, and it appeared to
> put smiles on a lot of other people?s faces when out and about. As you all
> know, you cannot drive one of these cars without getting smiles, waves,
> thumbs-up, casual nods, etc ? all acknowledging the wonderful looks the
> Healeys have!  If you park one, you will undoubtedly find your self in a
> conversation with someone who either had one and sold it, wished he had
> bought one way back when, wished he could buy one now, had an uncle who had
> one, or a cousin, or a friend?s dad, or, or, or? - you know how it goes!
>
>
>
> As much fun as it has been to drive my Healeys all over the US and Canada,
> as well as Norway, Denmark and Sweden ? I can say that maintaining the cars
> has been the sore spot for me, and I?m now at an age and physical condition
> where it?s somewhere between really-not-fun, really-not-practical and
> really-not-possible anymore. As such, this conversation hits home for me.
>
>
>
> SO ? what do I think about the future of Healey ownership? I suspect there
> will always be a small cadre of serious collectors who want and value cars
> that are as original as possible (whether ?concours? level, or just plain
> nice cars!). The pool of cars that survive in such condition is shrinking
> gradually, but then so is the pool of such people!
>
>
>
> I also suspect that there is a substantial and growing group who would
> love the opportunity to have a car with the classic styling of an
> Austin-Healey, but the reliability and drivability of a modern car.
> ?Modern? in this context may well be a very plastic term ? meaning
> different things to different generations.  For today?s purposes I ask you
> all whether the future might be electric? An Austin-Healey that has good
> acceleration and brakes, good handling, no fluid leaks (!!) and far fewer
> to no 60 year-old parts to go bad ? all combined with the classic lines of
> the Healey.
>
>
>
> What do you say?
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Al Fuller
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *James
> Frey via Healeys
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:10 PM
> *To:* Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Hello
>
>
>
> The costs you cite below are inexorably linked to the ?What to Do with our
> Healeys? question that was also raised.  Over the last several years, I
> have restored/built 3 cars with most of the work done by a local shop (one
> of which was a Bugeye).  I needed to have most work performed by my shop.
> Although my skills are moderate and I enjoy turning wrenches, my time
> available to do so has lessened in recent years.
>
>
>
> Given the above circumstances, I have easily spent 2-3 times market value
> on the purchase price, work performed, parts, etc.  I consider myself lucky
> to have a trusted local shop, but depending on where you live (even
> assuming you are willing to spend the money), it can be extraordinarily
> difficult to get the cars serviced, let alone have significant restoration
> work done.  I also don?t see the value of most Healeys going up much, and
> it might go down given the (arguably) shrinking market/demographics for
> these cars.
>
>
>
> So given my recent experience, as much as I might love to own a BJ8 and
> would consider myself ?a trusted steward?, paying significant dollars (even
> for a beautifully restored car) in a declining market might not be the best
> idea.  As for a car that ?needs work?, I?m starting to feel like I?ve been
> there and done that a little too often.  Also, there are fun (more modern)
> cars out there for similar dollars that don?t present the same financial
> risk and difficulties in selling.
>
>
>
> Lastly, I?m 61 (so not ?young?) and I think those that are younger than me
> are an even tougher sell.  I have 2 adult sons that have a moderate
> interest in cars and the ?old cars? they might have an interest in are
> probably from 2000-2010.
>
>
>
> The market is undeniably softer than previously, but I actually think
> current values are a sellers market, even in the US.  With the potential
> for declining demand, it?s hard for me to see an improving Healey market
> over the next 10+ years.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:16?PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Very good question.
>
> All the work that you describe requires an individual with significant
> skill(s). These tasks are not something that your "run of the mill" parts
> changer can undertake.  In our part of the world (Canada) those "parts
> changers", without breaking a sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which
> equates to $50/hr. $50/hr paid to the tradesman will typically be charged
> out at an hourly rate of at least $100.
>
> In my book a full restoration takes 1200 hours at least, usually a lot
> more to produce concours standards.
>
> So labour ONLY $120K.
>
> Parts and materials usually at least 50% of labour. $60K.
>
> Incidentals at least another $20K
>
> It's getting up there ??
>
>
>
> M
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun., Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> The list has been very quiet for a long time.
>
> How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1?
>
> The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final
> fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.
>
> Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the
> windscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all material
> where necessary.
>
> Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the necessary
> components.
>
>
>
> Gary Hodson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via Healeys
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a while?
>
> Mik
>
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From phoenix722 at comcast.net  Mon Feb 17 20:31:52 2025
From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair)
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:31:52 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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Well, I stirred up the list!? The car hasn't seen much action lately; 
has been cold in the NW.? We had a few nights below freezing, highs in 
the 30s.? Warmer now, tho.

Mike

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> Is it me, or is the list quiet?? I haven't seen anything for quite a 
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> Mike
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Electric Healeys are a sacrilege. Also a really bad investment as funds for charging stations are cut (finally!) ?and car? manufacturers pull back to cut their losses. E-cars may make sense for China, which simply builds more coal plants to recharge them as a way to reduce dependence on Russian oil, polluting the planet in the process. But?not for the US. Drill baby drill!??


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On Monday, February 17, 2025, 9:35 PM, sbyers--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

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Conversion of Healeys to electric power is already happening.? ?I know of three BJ8s that were sold individually to England and a company in London called ?Revival Autos? was doing that conversion.? They were also offering the original engine from one of the cars on eBay.? They also have an address in Naples, FL ?and San Francisco

https://revivalautos

 ?

Steve Byers

 BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

 ?

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of alfuller194 at gmail.com
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2025 6:52 PM
To: 'James Frey' <rcw414 at icloud.com>; 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
Cc: 'Healey List' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] The Future of Healey Ownership

 ?

Michael, Jim and All:

 ?

Your comments below have me thinking about what I have valued in my Austin-Healeys, and by extension what others do, will, or might value in them ? as balanced against the costs of buying, restoring, upgrading or maintaining the cars.

 ?

The Healey was never the fastest car I owned, and it was never the absolute best handling (though, the last BJ-8 with a new frame and gas shocks does handle pretty well). Obviously the Healey never had the most up-to-date safety features, and its exterior and dash lighting needed LED upgrades to perform even adequately. The list of things the cars were not is endless I compared to modern cars?

 ?

BUT: driving a Healey usually put a smile on my face, and it appeared to put smiles on a lot of other people?s faces when out and about. As you all know, you cannot drive one of these cars without getting smiles, waves, thumbs-up, casual nods, etc ? all acknowledging the wonderful looks the Healeys have!? If you park one, you will undoubtedly find your self in a conversation with someone who either had one and sold it, wished he had bought one way back when, wished he could buy one now, had an uncle who had one, or a cousin, or a friend?s dad, or, or, or? - you know how it goes!? 

 ?

As much fun as it has been to drive my Healeys all over the US and Canada, as well as Norway, Denmark and Sweden ? I can say that maintaining the cars has been the sore spot for me, and I?m now at an age and physical condition where it?s somewhere between really-not-fun, really-not-practical and really-not-possible anymore. As such, this conversation hits home for me.

 ?

SO ? what do I think about the future of Healey ownership? I suspect there will always be a small cadre of serious collectors who want and value cars that are as original as possible (whether ?concours? level, or just plain nice cars!). The pool of cars that survive in such condition is shrinking gradually, but then so is the pool of such people! 

 ?

I also suspect that there is a substantial and growing group who would love the opportunity to have a car with the classic styling of an Austin-Healey, but the reliability and drivability of a modern car. ?Modern? in this context may well be a very plastic term ? meaning different things to different generations.? For today?s purposes I ask you all whether the future might be electric? An Austin-Healey that has good acceleration and brakes, good handling, no fluid leaks (!!) and far fewer to no 60 year-old parts to go bad ? all combined with the classic lines of the Healey.

 ?

What do you say?

 ?

-----------------------------------

All the best,

 ?

Al Fuller

 ?

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James Frey via Healeys
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:10 PM
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
Cc: Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hello

 ?

The costs you cite below are inexorably linked to the ?What to Do with our Healeys? question that was also raised. ?Over the last several years, I have restored/built 3 cars with most of the work done by a local shop (one of which was a Bugeye). ?I needed to have most work performed by my shop. ?Although my skills are moderate and I enjoy turning wrenches, my time available to do so has lessened in recent years. ?

 ?

Given the above circumstances, I have easily spent 2-3 times market value on the purchase price, work performed, parts, etc. ?I consider myself lucky to have a trusted local shop, but depending on where you live (even assuming you are willing to spend the money), it can be extraordinarily difficult to get the cars serviced, let alone have significant restoration work done. ?I also don?t see the value of most Healeys going up much, and it might go down given the (arguably) shrinking market/demographics for these cars. ?

 ?

So given my recent experience, as much as I might love to own a BJ8 and would consider myself ?a trusted steward?, paying significant dollars (even for a beautifully restored car) in a declining market might not be the best idea. ?As for a car that ?needs work?, I?m starting to feel like I?ve been there and done that a little too often. ?Also, there are fun (more modern) cars out there for similar dollars that don?t present the same financial risk and difficulties in selling. ?

 ?

Lastly, I?m 61 (so not ?young?) and I think those that are younger than me are an even tougher sell. ?I have 2 adult sons that have a moderate interest in cars and the ?old cars? they might have an interest in are probably from 2000-2010. ?

 ?

The market is undeniably softer than previously, but I actually think current values are a sellers market, even in the US. ?With the potential for declining demand, it?s hard for me to see an improving Healey market over the next 10+ years. ?

 ?

Jim

 ?

 ?

 ?


On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:16?PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:

 ?

Very good question.?

All the work that you describe requires an individual with significant skill(s). These tasks are not something that your "run of the mill" parts changer can undertake.? In our part of the world (Canada) those "parts changers", without breaking a sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which equates to $50/hr. $50/hr paid to the tradesman will typically be charged out at an hourly rate of at least $100.

In my book a full restoration takes 1200 hours at least, usually a lot more to produce concours standards.

So labour ONLY $120K.

Parts and materials usually at least 50% of labour. $60K.

Incidentals at least another $20K

It's getting up there ??

 ?

M

 ?

 ?

On Sun., Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:


The list has been very quiet for a long time.

How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1??

The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.

Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the windscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all material where necessary.?

Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the necessary components.

 ?

Gary Hodson

 ?

?

 ?

On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: 

 ?

 ?

Is it me, or is the list quiet?? I haven't seen anything for quite a while?

Mik

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From britishauto at gmail.com  Tue Feb 18 08:12:50 2025
From: britishauto at gmail.com (Jake V)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:12:50 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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The comment about Concours cars selling for 'half of what they're worth' is
an interesting one.
Who determines worth, and is it different from selling price?
My brothers and I have been working on all makes and models of British cars
since we were kids, it was our dad's business until he died in 2011.
No one seems interested in buying cars that need to have work completed,
each of us have had long timelines to sell some of these cars in the past 5
years.
I'm not young, but not that old at 47. I do my own work, so I'll still be
interested in finding cars that need some love.
If the price on XKEs goes down, I won't be sad, I'll be looking to buy an
S3 OTS.

On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 12:08?AM Mike Sinclair via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Well, I stirred up the list!  The car hasn't seen much action lately; has
> been cold in the NW.  We had a few nights below freezing, highs in the
> 30s.  Warmer now, tho.
>
> Mike
> On 2/16/25 8:14 AM, Mike Sinclair via Healeys wrote:
>
> Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for quite a while?
>
> Mike
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Tue Feb 18 09:50:34 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:50:34 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
Message-ID: <4164b20b-3661-4ab0-8316-fd3e8e7b24e6@comcast.net>

The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys 
when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids 
(mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've 
gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the 
100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together 
original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not 
make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a 
museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all 
new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no 
amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with 
all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to 
install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car). 
'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which 
supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no 
issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across 
The Pond anyway)?

Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake 
kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be 
72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP 
Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot 
medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my 
fitness).

bs

From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Tue Feb 18 10:58:27 2025
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 18:58:27 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Bob,
Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady doubtful.
When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.

Josef Eckert
Germany


-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>

The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys 
when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids 
(mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've 
gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the 
100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together 
original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not 
make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a 
museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all 
new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no 
amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with 
all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to 
install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car). 
'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which 
supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no 
issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across 
The Pond anyway)?

Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake 
kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be 
72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP 
Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot 
medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my 
fitness).

bs
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From josef-eckert at t-online.de  Tue Feb 18 11:45:31 2025
From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:45:31 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Hi David,
As you said you did your journey in 1982! How old were you than? And that?s more than 40 years ago. Here in centre Europe you wouldn?t do it again this year. I usually load my classic cars on the trailer when I need to go to an event further than 60 miles (100km) distance. I am 67 years old and I do not need these excitements anymore and important for me,  my wife wouldn?t go with me longer distances in a Healey. On our motorways we have massive congestions which doesn?t make it pleasant, even in a modern car. For longer leasure trips along country lanes we usually use our Mazda MX-5, which makes the same fun to drive and its much safer with airbags, etc. than taking an Austin-Healey.

Josef Eckert
Germany


-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
Datum: 2025-02-18T19:30:00+0100
Von: "WARD DAVID" <bighealey at ntlworld.com>
An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>

Hi Josef,
My wife and myself drove a Austin Healey 3000 Mk one from Perth in Western Australia to Adelaide in South Australia for a National Austin Healey rally  in 1982 I think it was. A distance of over TWO THOUSAND MILES  ONE WAY.  We enjoyed the Healey meet then drove the massive distance back again.

Regards.
David. 





> On 18/02/2025 17:58 GMT josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>  
> Bob,
> Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady doubtful.
> When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.
> 
> Josef Eckert
> Germany
> 
> 
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
> Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
> Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
> Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> 
> The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys 
> when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids 
> (mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've 
> gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the 
> 100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together 
> original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not 
> make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a 
> museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all 
> new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no 
> amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with 
> all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to 
> install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car). 
> 'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which 
> supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no 
> issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across 
> The Pond anyway)?
> 
> Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake 
> kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be 
> 72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP 
> Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot 
> medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my 
> fitness).
> 
> bs
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From cnaarndt at gmail.com  Tue Feb 18 14:49:43 2025
From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 13:49:43 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Here's what I've done with my Concours BN1 in 37 years..

*Engine:*
- internal LeMans parts... cam, pistons, and original dated BN1 distributor
upgraded to "M" specs by Jeff at Advanced
- slightly lightened flywheel [the lip was milled off].
- Denis Welch Aluminum head upgraded with DW head gasket and all new engine
studs and nuts. The aluminum head alone doubles the power band from
2,500-3,500 rpm stock to now 2,000-4,200 rpm. Pulls like a freight train.

Original H4 carbs [not needed with AL head]. No louvered bonnet nor strap.

Vintage restored 9-fin aluminum valve cover.
Made in England 'ProAlloy' brand aluminum radiator with an upgraded 30%
more efficient core. Pro Alloy radiators are fantastic quality, and look
like the originals. While I got mine when the GBP dropped to $1.05
USD [paid $900 USD delivered] They have now almost tripled in price.

*Suspension:*
Brakes are all four drums, but the drums were balanced and the special
'woven-segmented' brake shoes arced to the drums. NO issues with brakes.
Almost as good as disc brakes. This was a recommendation from Don Fisher to
me 20 years ago.
Upgraded LeMans 5/8" front anti-sway bar.
All four original shocks were rebuilt by Peter Cauldwell.
Dayton 60-spoke wheels with 165HR15 Michelin XAS tires.

*Gearbox & Rearend:*
Lempert 3.54 rear end gears replacing the stock 4.11 gears in my stock
Hypoid Bevel rear end.
Eric Grunden rebuilt the original 3-speed gear box with A LOT of NOS parts.
Eric says it's the best one he's ever built. I love the 3-speeds as it
gives me synchro in all forward gears.

It may be a 70 year old classic but it will cruise the CA freeways at 80
mph all day, keep up with any stock 100M and will win a Gold Concours to
boot.

Cheers,

Curtis


On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:11?AM josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi David,
> As you said you did your journey in 1982! How old were you than? And
> that?s more than 40 years ago. Here in centre Europe you wouldn?t do it
> again this year. I usually load my classic cars on the trailer when I need
> to go to an event further than 60 miles (100km) distance. I am 67 years old
> and I do not need these excitements anymore and important for me,  my wife
> wouldn?t go with me longer distances in a Healey. On our motorways we have
> massive congestions which doesn?t make it pleasant, even in a modern car.
> For longer leasure trips along country lanes we usually use our Mazda MX-5,
> which makes the same fun to drive and its much safer with airbags, etc.
> than taking an Austin-Healey.
>
> Josef Eckert
> Germany
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
> Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
> Datum: 2025-02-18T19:30:00+0100
> Von: "WARD DAVID" <bighealey at ntlworld.com>
> An: "josef-eckert at t-online.de" <josef-eckert at t-online.de>
>
> Hi Josef,
> My wife and myself drove a Austin Healey 3000 Mk one from Perth in Western
> Australia to Adelaide in South Australia for a National Austin Healey
> rally  in 1982 I think it was. A distance of over TWO THOUSAND MILES  ONE
> WAY.  We enjoyed the Healey meet then drove the massive distance back again.
>
> Regards.
> David.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 18/02/2025 17:58 GMT josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Bob,
> > Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so
> handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really
> happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My
> point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It
> doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady
> doubtful.
> > When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a
> better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here
> in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances
> anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.
> >
> > Josef Eckert
> > Germany
> >
> >
> > -----Original-Nachricht-----
> > Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
> > Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
> > Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> > An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> >
> > The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys
> > when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids
> > (mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've
> > gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the
> > 100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together
> > original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not
> > make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a
> > museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all
> > new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no
> > amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with
> > all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to
> > install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car).
> > 'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which
> > supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no
> > issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across
> > The Pond anyway)?
> >
> > Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake
> > kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be
> > 72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP
> > Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot
> > medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my
> > fitness).
> >
> > bs
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Tue Feb 18 17:39:13 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 00:39:13 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here in America, I like driving it, often?to gatherings 100 or more miles away. New radial tires add safety and handling while looking mostly original?and old as they are, Healeys still handle surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road. And alternator will charge a battery far better than the standard generator while a modern fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples of upgrades that maintain the original feel of the car while reducing the chance of being stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief in at least a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to spend more?time on the road and less time at a service station.?


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On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Bob,
Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady doubtful.
When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.

Josef Eckert
Germany


-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>

The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys 
when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids 
(mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've 
gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the 
100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together 
original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not 
make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a 
museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all 
new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no 
amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with 
all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to 
install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car). 
'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which 
supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no 
issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across 
The Pond anyway)?

Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake 
kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be 
72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP 
Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot 
medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my 
fitness).

bs
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From drtommitch at gmail.com  Tue Feb 18 18:02:34 2025
From: drtommitch at gmail.com (Tom Mitchell)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:02:34 -0600
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven from Michigan to
North and south Carolina, to Vermont to south Dacoda,  to North Carolina,
back and forth to Kentucky and beyond.
 I?ve done a few reversible upgrades.
Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights Toyota transmission, third
brake light, even (gasp) cruise control. I want my kids and grandkids to be
able to drive it.
It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In the meantime I?m
driving the heck out of it.
I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the fatigue of driving it is
costing me.
I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife doesn?t like them).
Everything is (so far) easily reversible.

Dr.Mitchell's Gmail


On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via Healeys <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here in America,
> I like driving it, often to gatherings 100 or more miles away. New radial
> tires add safety and handling while looking mostly original?and old as they
> are, Healeys still handle surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road.
> And alternator will charge a battery far better than the standard generator
> while a modern fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples of
> upgrades that maintain the original feel of the car while reducing the
> chance of being stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief in at least
> a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to spend more time on the
> road and less time at a service station.
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
> On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Bob,
> Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so
> handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really
> happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My
> point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It
> doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady
> doubtful.
> When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a
> better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here
> in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances
> anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.
>
> Josef Eckert
> Germany
>
>
> -----Original-Nachricht-----
> Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
> Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
> Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
> An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
> The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys
> when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids
> (mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've
> gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the
> 100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together
> original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not
> make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a
> museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all
> new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no
> amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with
> all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to
> install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car).
> 'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which
> supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no
> issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across
> The Pond anyway)?
>
> Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake
> kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be
> 72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP
> Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot
> medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my
> fitness).
>
> bs
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Tue Feb 18 20:32:34 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 19:32:34 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Sooooooooooooo ... no one's installed the AHSpares front disk kit?


On 2/18/2025 5:02 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:
> I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven from Michigan to 
> North and south Carolina, to Vermont to south Dacoda, ?to North 
> Carolina, back and forth to Kentucky and beyond.
> ?I?ve done a few reversible upgrades.
> Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights Toyota transmission, 
> third brake light, even (gasp) cruise control. I want my kids and 
> grandkids to be able to drive it.
> It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In the meantime I?m 
> driving the heck out of it.
> I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the fatigue of driving it 
> is costing me.
> I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife doesn?t like them).
> Everything is (so far) easily reversible.
>
> Dr.Mitchell's Gmail
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here in
>     America, I like driving it, often?to gatherings 100 or more miles
>     away. New radial tires add safety and handling while looking
>     mostly original?and old as they are, Healeys still handle
>     surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road. And alternator
>     will charge a battery far better than the standard generator while
>     a modern fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples of
>     upgrades that maintain the original feel of the car while reducing
>     the chance of being stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief
>     in at least a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to spend
>     more?time on the road and less time at a service station.
>
>
>     Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>     <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
>     On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via
>     Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>         Bob,
>         Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again
>         and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should
>         be and I am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes
>         it even more attractive to me. My point is, this modifications
>         are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It doesn?t make
>         things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady
>         doubtful.
>         When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would
>         get a better price compared to a modified bitser, at least
>         here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would drive an
>         Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even its fitted
>         with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.
>
>         Josef Eckert
>         Germany
>
>
>         -----Original-Nachricht-----
>         Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
>         Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
>         Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>         An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>         The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with
>         our Healeys
>         when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids
>         (mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a
>         couple ads I've
>         gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've
>         largely kept the
>         100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored
>         together
>         original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation,
>         why not
>         make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it
>         won't end up a
>         museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all
>         new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull
>         badly and no
>         amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65
>         Mustang, with
>         all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to
>         install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's
>         car).
>         'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which
>         supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I
>         have no
>         issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping
>         across
>         The Pond anyway)?
>
>         Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp.
>         the brake
>         kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)?
>         FWIW, I'll be
>         72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP
>         Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping
>         my pilot
>         medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something
>         about my
>         fitness).
>
>         bs
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Wed Feb 19 04:39:27 2025
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:39:27 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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Today I received a huge amount of messages from the list. It has been 
more than a year since I got practically anye. No idea what happened.
Kees Oudesluijs


Op 16-2-2025 om 18:41 schreef warthodson--- via Healeys:
> The list has been very quiet for a long time.
> How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1?
> The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final 
> fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.
> Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting 
> the windscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all 
> material where necessary.
> Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the 
> necessary components.
>
> Gary Hodson
>
>
> On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via 
> Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Is it me, or is the list quiet?? I haven't seen anything for quite a 
> while?
>
> Mik
>
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Wed Feb 19 04:47:14 2025
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:47:14 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Hello
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Use a paper gasket smeared with any sealant like Permatex. Not really 
critical.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 17-2-2025 om 05:30 schreef Michael Oritt:suicidal let's discuss the 
probabilities of developing prostate cancer (which I've had).
> For me I'd rather read about something related to the use of our cars 
> and I still haven't seen a response to my question about thermostat 
> gasket sealant.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 9:01?PM James Frey via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     The costs you cite below are inexorably linked to the ?What to Do
>     with our Healeys? question that was also raised. Over the last
>     several years, I have restored/built 3 cars with most of the work
>     done by a local shop (one of which was a Bugeye).? I needed to
>     have most work performed by my shop.? Although my skills are
>     moderate and I enjoy turning wrenches, my time available to do so
>     has lessened in recent years.
>
>     Given the above circumstances, I have easily spent 2-3 times
>     market value on the purchase price, work performed, parts, etc.? I
>     consider myself lucky to have a trusted local shop, but depending
>     on where you live (even assuming you are willing to spend the
>     money), it can be extraordinarily difficult to get the cars
>     serviced, let alone have significant restoration work done.? I
>     also don?t see the value of most Healeys going up much, and it
>     might go down given the (arguably) shrinking market/demographics
>     for these cars.
>
>     So given my recent experience, as much as I might love to own a
>     BJ8 and would consider myself ?a trusted steward?, paying
>     significant dollars (even for a beautifully restored car) in a
>     declining market might not be the best idea.? As for a car that
>     ?needs work?, I?m starting to feel like I?ve been there and done
>     that a little too often. Also, there are fun (more modern) cars
>     out there for similar dollars that don?t present the same
>     financial risk and difficulties in selling.
>
>     Lastly, I?m 61 (so not ?young?) and I think those that are younger
>     than me are an even tougher sell.? I have 2 adult sons that have a
>     moderate interest in cars and the ?old cars? they might have an
>     interest in are probably from 2000-2010.
>
>     The market is undeniably softer than previously, but I actually
>     think current values are a sellers market, even in the US.? With
>     the potential for declining demand, it?s hard for me to see an
>     improving Healey market over the next 10+ years.
>
>     Jim
>
>
>
>>     On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:16?PM, Michael Salter
>>     <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>     Very good question.
>>     All the work that you describe requires an individual with
>>     significant skill(s). These tasks are not something that your
>>     "run of the mill" parts changer can undertake.? In our part of
>>     the world (Canada) those "parts changers", without breaking a
>>     sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which equates to $50/hr.
>>     $50/hr paid to the tradesman will typically be charged out at an
>>     hourly rate of at least $100.
>>     In my book a full restoration takes 1200 hours at least, usually
>>     a lot more to produce concours standards.
>>     So labour ONLY $120K.
>>     Parts and materials usually at least 50% of labour. $60K.
>>     Incidentals at least another $20K
>>     It's getting up there ??
>>
>>     M
>>
>>
>>     On Sun., Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson--- via Healeys,
>>     <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>         The list has been very quiet for a long time.
>>         How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1?
>>         The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes
>>         final fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final
>>         painting.
>>         Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior,
>>         fitting the windscreen, convertible top, side curtains
>>         including providing all material where necessary.
>>         Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all
>>         the necessary components.
>>
>>         Gary Hodson
>>
>>
>>         On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike
>>         Sinclair via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         Is it me, or is the list quiet?? I haven't seen anything for
>>         quite a while?
>>
>>         Mik
>>
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Wed Feb 19 04:58:17 2025
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 12:58:17 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Mods to make it more enjoyable, more reliable or, more importantly, 
safer to drive are a must if you want to drive in modern traffic. 
Improved braking and cooling are the most obvious ones.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 19-2-2025 om 04:32 schreef Bob Spidell via Healeys:
> Sooooooooooooo ... no one's installed the AHSpares front disk kit?
>
>
> On 2/18/2025 5:02 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:
>> I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven from Michigan 
>> to North and south Carolina, to Vermont to south Dacoda, ?to North 
>> Carolina, back and forth to Kentucky and beyond.
>> ?I?ve done a few reversible upgrades.
>> Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights Toyota transmission, 
>> third brake light, even (gasp) cruise control. I want my kids and 
>> grandkids to be able to drive it.
>> It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In the meantime I?m 
>> driving the heck out of it.
>> I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the fatigue of driving 
>> it is costing me.
>> I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife doesn?t like them).
>> Everything is (so far) easily reversible.
>>
>> Dr.Mitchell's Gmail
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via Healeys 
>> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>     I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here in
>>     America, I like driving it, often?to gatherings 100 or more miles
>>     away. New radial tires add safety and handling while looking
>>     mostly original?and old as they are, Healeys still handle
>>     surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road. And alternator
>>     will charge a battery far better than the standard generator
>>     while a modern fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples
>>     of upgrades that maintain the original feel of the car while
>>     reducing the chance of being stuck on the roadside. So I maintain
>>     my belief in at least a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my
>>     Healey to spend more?time on the road and less time at a service
>>     station.
>>
>>
>>     Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>>     <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>>
>>     On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via
>>     Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>         Bob,
>>         Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be
>>         again and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it
>>         should be and I am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what
>>         makes it even more attractive to me. My point is, this
>>         modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It
>>         doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish
>>         old lady doubtful.
>>         When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you
>>         would get a better price compared to a modified bitser, at
>>         least here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would drive
>>         an Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even its fitted
>>         with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.
>>
>>         Josef Eckert
>>         Germany
>>
>>
>>         -----Original-Nachricht-----
>>         Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
>>         Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
>>         Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>         An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>
>>         The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with
>>         our Healeys
>>         when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids
>>         (mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a
>>         couple ads I've
>>         gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've
>>         largely kept the
>>         100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored
>>         together
>>         original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that
>>         conversation, why not
>>         make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it
>>         won't end up a
>>         museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all
>>         new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull
>>         badly and no
>>         amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65
>>         Mustang, with
>>         all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought
>>         it to
>>         install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's
>>         car).
>>         'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit,
>>         which
>>         supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I
>>         have no
>>         issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be
>>         shipping across
>>         The Pond anyway)?
>>
>>         Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp.
>>         the brake
>>         kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)?
>>         FWIW, I'll be
>>         72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP
>>         Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering
>>         re-upping my pilot
>>         medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something
>>         about my
>>         fitness).
>>
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 19 07:17:48 2025
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:17:48 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Having just received a shipment of parts yesterday from AH Spares, of whom
I have been a customer for over 50 years, I'm sorry to say that I would now
be very reluctant to purchase something as safety critical as a front brake
kit from them.
Unfortunately, based upon my  experience with several suppliers over the
years, as companies get larger they are inclined to emphasize volume over
quality and AH Spares seem to be tracing that path.

M



On Tue., Feb. 18, 2025, 10:50 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, <
healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Sooooooooooooo ... no one's installed the AHSpares front disk kit?
>
>
> On 2/18/2025 5:02 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:
>
> I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven from Michigan to
> North and south Carolina, to Vermont to south Dacoda,  to North Carolina,
> back and forth to Kentucky and beyond.
>  I?ve done a few reversible upgrades.
> Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights Toyota transmission,
> third brake light, even (gasp) cruise control. I want my kids and grandkids
> to be able to drive it.
> It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In the meantime I?m
> driving the heck out of it.
> I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the fatigue of driving it is
> costing me.
> I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife doesn?t like them).
> Everything is (so far) easily reversible.
>
> Dr.Mitchell's Gmail
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here in America,
>> I like driving it, often to gatherings 100 or more miles away. New radial
>> tires add safety and handling while looking mostly original?and old as they
>> are, Healeys still handle surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road.
>> And alternator will charge a battery far better than the standard generator
>> while a modern fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples of
>> upgrades that maintain the original feel of the car while reducing the
>> chance of being stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief in at least
>> a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to spend more time on the
>> road and less time at a service station.
>>
>>
>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Bob,
>> Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so
>> handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really
>> happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My
>> point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It
>> doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady
>> doubtful.
>> When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a
>> better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here
>> in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances
>> anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.
>>
>> Josef Eckert
>> Germany
>>
>>
>> -----Original-Nachricht-----
>> Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
>> Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
>> Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>
>> The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys
>> when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids
>> (mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've
>> gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the
>> 100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together
>> original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not
>> make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a
>> museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all
>> new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no
>> amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with
>> all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to
>> install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car).
>> 'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which
>> supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no
>> issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across
>> The Pond anyway)?
>>
>> Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake
>> kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be
>> 72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP
>> Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot
>> medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my
>> fitness).
>>
>> bs
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Wed Feb 19 08:02:07 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:02:07 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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That?s sad to hear as they have seemed to be a safer bet than Moss over the 25 years I?ve owned Healeys (a BN6, a BN1, and currently a BN7).?


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 9:18 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:

Having just received a shipment of parts yesterday from AH Spares, of whom I have been a customer for over 50 years, I'm sorry to say that I would now be very reluctant to purchase something as safety critical as a front brake kit from them.?Unfortunately, based upon my? experience with several suppliers over the years, as companies get larger they are inclined to emphasize volume over quality and AH Spares seem to be tracing that path.
M



On Tue., Feb. 18, 2025, 10:50 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

  Sooooooooooooo ... no one's installed the AHSpares front disk kit?
 
 
 On 2/18/2025 5:02 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:
  
 I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven from Michigan to North and south Carolina, to Vermont to south Dacoda, ?to North Carolina, back and forth to Kentucky and beyond. ?I?ve done a few reversible upgrades.? Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights Toyota transmission, third brake light, even (gasp) cruise control. I want my kids and grandkids to be able to drive it.? It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In the meantime I?m driving the heck out of it. I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the fatigue of driving it is costing me. I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife doesn?t like them).? Everything is (so far) easily reversible.?
 
  Dr.Mitchell's Gmail   
  
  On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
  
  I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here in America, I like driving it, often?to gatherings 100 or more miles away. New radial tires add safety and handling while looking mostly original?and old as they are, Healeys still handle surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road. And alternator will charge a battery far better than the standard generator while a modern fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples of upgrades that maintain the original feel of the car while reducing the chance of being stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief in at least a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to spend more?time on the road and less time at a service station.?
 
 
 Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
  
 
On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
 
 Bob,
 Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady doubtful.
 When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.
 
 Josef Eckert
 Germany
 
 
 -----Original-Nachricht-----
 Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
 Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
 Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
 An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
 
 The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys 
 when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids 
 (mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've 
 gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the 
 100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together 
 original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not 
 make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a 
 museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all 
 new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no 
 amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with 
 all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to 
 install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car). 
 'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which 
 supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no 
 issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across 
 The Pond anyway)?
 
 Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake 
 kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be 
 72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP 
 Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot 
 medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my 
 fitness).
 
 bs
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From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:07:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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I agree entirely with Kees. Further, I did install the AH Spares front disc kit?on my former BN1, which used the big brake calipers from a late BJ8. The results were more than worth the cost and effort. Nice being able to stop?and the rear drums?on Healeys, including the thinner ones on the early 100s, work fine as they do far less work than the front brakes. But this was roughly six years ago, so don?t know whether the current kit is as good.?


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On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 8:01 AM, Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

 
Mods to make it more enjoyable, more reliable or, more importantly, safer to drive are a must if you want to drive in modern traffic. Improved braking and cooling are the most obvious ones.
 Kees Oudesluijs
 
 Op 19-2-2025 om 04:32 schreef Bob Spidell via Healeys:
  
 
 Sooooooooooooo ... no one's installed the AHSpares front disk kit?
 
 
 On 2/18/2025 5:02 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:
  
 
I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven from Michigan to North and south Carolina, to Vermont to south Dacoda, ?to North Carolina, back and forth to Kentucky and beyond. ?I?ve done a few reversible upgrades.? Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights Toyota transmission, third brake light, even (gasp) cruise control. I want my kids and grandkids to be able to drive it.? It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In the meantime I?m driving the heck out of it. I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the fatigue of driving it is costing me. I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife doesn?t like them).? Everything is (so far) easily reversible.?
 
  Dr.Mitchell's Gmail   
  
  On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
  
  I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here in America, I like driving it, often?to gatherings 100 or more miles away. New radial tires add safety and handling while looking mostly original?and old as they are, Healeys still handle surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road. And alternator will charge a battery far better than the standard generator while a modern fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples of upgrades that maintain the original feel of the car while reducing the chance of being stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief in at least a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to spend more?time on the road and less time at a service station.?
 
 
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On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
 
 Bob,
 Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady doubtful.
 When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.
 
 Josef Eckert
 Germany
 
 
 -----Original-Nachricht-----
 Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
 Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
 Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
 An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
 
 The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys 
 when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids 
 (mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've 
 gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the 
 100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together 
 original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not 
 make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a 
 museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all 
 new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no 
 amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with 
 all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to 
 install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car). 
 'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which 
 supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no 
 issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across 
 The Pond anyway)?
 
 Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake 
 kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be 
 72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP 
 Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot 
 medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my 
 fitness).
 
 bs
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Wed Feb 19 08:12:32 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:12:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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That?s the idea?Healeys are meant for driving, not sitting in the garage, in a trailer, or, worse, on the side of the road.?


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On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 8:02 PM, Tom Mitchell <drtommitch at gmail.com> wrote:

I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven from Michigan to North and south Carolina, to Vermont to south Dacoda, ?to North Carolina, back and forth to Kentucky and beyond.?I?ve done a few reversible upgrades.?Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights Toyota transmission, third brake light, even (gasp) cruise control. I want my kids and grandkids to be able to drive it.?It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In the meantime I?m driving the heck out of it.I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the fatigue of driving it is costing me.I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife doesn?t like them).?Everything is (so far) easily reversible.?

Dr.Mitchell's Gmail

On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here in America, I like driving it, often?to gatherings 100 or more miles away. New radial tires add safety and handling while looking mostly original?and old as they are, Healeys still handle surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road. And alternator will charge a battery far better than the standard generator while a modern fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples of upgrades that maintain the original feel of the car while reducing the chance of being stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief in at least a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to spend more?time on the road and less time at a service station.?


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On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

Bob,
Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady doubtful.
When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.

Josef Eckert
Germany


-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>

The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys 
when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids 
(mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've 
gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the 
100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together 
original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not 
make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a 
museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all 
new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no 
amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with 
all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to 
install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car). 
'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which 
supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no 
issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across 
The Pond anyway)?

Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake 
kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be 
72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP 
Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot 
medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my 
fitness).

bs
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From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com  Wed Feb 19 08:56:21 2025
From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:56:21 -0000
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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It?s been my impression, over the years, that almost everyone is safer than Moss. That?s purely as an observer/listener to comments across the pond as virtually no one in the UK bothers with Moss at all. Yes, agreed as to Michael?s comments regarding AHSpares. They sold me a dud clutch and, although they replaced it without argument, they were rather too nonchalant about the whole thing for my liking. Despite several requests for feedback I never heard anything. I use Ahead4Healeys nowadays. I dropped in on them a few months back and they gave me a tour. All looked pretty efficient. They had small units within doing interiors and panels etc?.all high quality. Impressive!

Simon

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Robert Markovich via Healeys
Sent: 19 February 2025 15:02
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>; Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
Cc: Healey, Forum <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods

 

That?s sad to hear as they have seemed to be a safer bet than Moss over the 25 years I?ve owned Healeys (a BN6, a BN1, and currently a BN7). 



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On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 9:18 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> > wrote:

Having just received a shipment of parts yesterday from AH Spares, of whom I have been a customer for over 50 years, I'm sorry to say that I would now be very reluctant to purchase something as safety critical as a front brake kit from them. 

Unfortunately, based upon my  experience with several suppliers over the years, as companies get larger they are inclined to emphasize volume over quality and AH Spares seem to be tracing that path.

 

M

 

 

 

On Tue., Feb. 18, 2025, 10:50 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Sooooooooooooo ... no one's installed the AHSpares front disk kit?



On 2/18/2025 5:02 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:

I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven from Michigan to North and south Carolina, to Vermont to south Dacoda,  to North Carolina, back and forth to Kentucky and beyond.

 I?ve done a few reversible upgrades. 

Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights Toyota transmission, third brake light, even (gasp) cruise control. I want my kids and grandkids to be able to drive it. 

It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In the meantime I?m driving the heck out of it.

I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the fatigue of driving it is costing me.

I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife doesn?t like them). 

Everything is (so far) easily reversible. 



Dr.Mitchell's Gmail

 

 

On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here in America, I like driving it, often to gatherings 100 or more miles away. New radial tires add safety and handling while looking mostly original?and old as they are, Healeys still handle surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road. And alternator will charge a battery far better than the standard generator while a modern fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples of upgrades that maintain the original feel of the car while reducing the chance of being stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief in at least a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to spend more time on the road and less time at a service station. 



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On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Bob,
Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady doubtful.
When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.

Josef Eckert
Germany


-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys 
when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids 
(mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've 
gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the 
100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together 
original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not 
make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a 
museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all 
new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no 
amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with 
all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to 
install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car). 
'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which 
supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no 
issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across 
The Pond anyway)?

Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake 
kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be 
72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP 
Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot 
medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my 
fitness).

bs
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Wed Feb 19 09:10:32 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 08:10:32 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Damn. But good to know.

Thanks Michael.

Bob

On 2/19/2025 6:17 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> Having just received a shipment of parts yesterday from AH Spares, of 
> whom I have been a customer for over 50 years, I'm sorry to say that I 
> would now be very reluctant to purchase something as safety critical 
> as a front brake kit from them.
> Unfortunately, based upon my? experience with several suppliers over 
> the years, as companies get larger they are inclined to emphasize 
> volume over quality and AH Spares seem to be tracing that path.
>
> M
>
>
>
> On Tue., Feb. 18, 2025, 10:50 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     Sooooooooooooo ... no one's installed the AHSpares front disk kit?
>
>
>     On 2/18/2025 5:02 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:
>>     I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven from
>>     Michigan to North and south Carolina, to Vermont to south Dacoda,
>>     ?to North Carolina, back and forth to Kentucky and beyond.
>>     ?I?ve done a few reversible upgrades.
>>     Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights Toyota
>>     transmission, third brake light, even (gasp) cruise control. I
>>     want my kids and grandkids to be able to drive it.
>>     It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In the meantime
>>     I?m driving the heck out of it.
>>     I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the fatigue of
>>     driving it is costing me.
>>     I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife doesn?t like
>>     them).
>>     Everything is (so far) easily reversible.
>>
>>     Dr.Mitchell's Gmail
>>
>>
>>     On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via Healeys
>>     <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>         I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here
>>         in America, I like driving it, often?to gatherings 100 or
>>         more miles away. New radial tires add safety and handling
>>         while looking mostly original?and old as they are, Healeys
>>         still handle surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road.
>>         And alternator will charge a battery far better than the
>>         standard generator while a modern fuel pump is likelier to
>>         keep working?two examples of upgrades that maintain the
>>         original feel of the car while reducing the chance of being
>>         stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief in at least a
>>         few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to spend
>>         more?time on the road and less time at a service station.
>>
>>
>>         Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>>         <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>>
>>         On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via
>>         Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>             Bob,
>>             Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be
>>             again and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s
>>             what it should be and I am really happy my 100 handles
>>             "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My
>>             point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a
>>             human beeing. It doesn?t make things better, even worse
>>             as it makes an stylish old lady doubtful.
>>             When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you
>>             would get a better price compared to a modified bitser,
>>             at least here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would
>>             drive an Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even
>>             its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.
>>
>>             Josef Eckert
>>             Germany
>>
>>
>>             -----Original-Nachricht-----
>>             Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
>>             Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
>>             Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>             An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>>
>>             The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do
>>             with our Healeys
>>             when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and
>>             grandkids
>>             (mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a
>>             couple ads I've
>>             gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've
>>             largely kept the
>>             100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored
>>             together
>>             original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that
>>             conversation, why not
>>             make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it
>>             won't end up a
>>             museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck.
>>             They're all
>>             new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull
>>             badly and no
>>             amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65
>>             Mustang, with
>>             all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who
>>             bought it to
>>             install front disks since it was to be his teenage
>>             daughter's car).
>>             'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard
>>             kit, which
>>             supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes
>>             I have no
>>             issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be
>>             shipping across
>>             The Pond anyway)?
>>
>>             Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods,
>>             esp. the brake
>>             kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)?
>>             FWIW, I'll be
>>             72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a
>>             480HP
>>             Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering
>>             re-upping my pilot
>>             medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me
>>             something about my
>>             fitness).
>>
>>             bs
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From coudesluijs at chello.nl  Wed Feb 19 09:31:58 2025
From: coudesluijs at chello.nl (Kees Oudesluijs)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:31:58 +0100
Subject: [Healeys] Thermostat gasket sealant
In-Reply-To: <01bf01db812f$e56e51e0$b04af5a0$@ec.rr.com>
References: <CAPTa0B7O9q5rBVh1+4OD+CJV-nsVZJ_Fdf9w-wBo=eDgEREsUw@mail.gmail.com>
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I do not have the 180 F original SMITHS 85025/82 sleeved thermostats 
anymore but I still do have some NOS 187 F SMITHS 85025/86 or the 
identical Remax T200/86 ones.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 17-2-2025 om 12:34 schreef sbyers--- via Healeys:
>
> Since I tried Hylomar, it is all that I use on gaskets (Permatex has 
> an equivalent).It seals well and is non-setting.
>
> For thermostats, I tried the sleeved 160 that Moss offered (apparently 
> no one had a sleeved 180) in my BJ8 and found that in the wintertime I 
> had to actually block half of the radiator to get the coolant to come 
> up to temperature.Later, I was fortunate to be able to score an 
> original NOS sleeved 180 made by AC from Kees Oudersluijs who was 
> active on this list and got a couple of spares as insurance.
>
> A thermostat doesn?t really ?control? the coolant temperature, but 
> reacts to it depending on the coolant flow and temperature of the air 
> through the radiator. Initially, it limits the flow for faster warm-up 
> of the engine.Once it is wide open, it is out of the loop.
>
> Steve Byers
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael 
> Oritt
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 7:06 PM
> *To:* Healeys at Autox <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Thermostat gasket sealant
>
> My 100 will not come up to temperature (at least yet) with a 160 
> thermostat.? I am putting in a 180 and wonder what is the preferred 
> gasket dressing?
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Wed Feb 19 09:36:34 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:36:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Many thanks for your recommendation regarding Ahead4Healeys. I?ve never tried them but will!


Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS


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It?s been my impression, over the years, that almost everyone is safer than Moss. That?s purely as an observer/listener to comments across the pond as virtually no one in the UK bothers with Moss at all. Yes, agreed as to Michael?s comments regarding AHSpares. They sold me a dud clutch and, although they replaced it without argument, they were rather too nonchalant about the whole thing for my liking. Despite several requests for feedback I never heard anything. I use Ahead4Healeys nowadays. I dropped in on them a few months back and they gave me a tour. All looked pretty efficient. They had small units within doing interiors and panels etc?.all high quality. Impressive!

Simon

 ?

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Robert Markovich via Healeys
Sent: 19 February 2025 15:02
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>; Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
Cc: Healey, Forum <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods

 ?

That?s sad to hear as they have seemed to be a safer bet than Moss over the 25 years I?ve owned Healeys (a BN6, a BN1, and currently a BN7).?



Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS

 ?

On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 9:18 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:


Having just received a shipment of parts yesterday from AH Spares, of whom I have been a customer for over 50 years, I'm sorry to say that I would now be very reluctant to purchase something as safety critical as a front brake kit from them.?

Unfortunately, based upon my? experience with several suppliers over the years, as companies get larger they are inclined to emphasize volume over quality and AH Spares seem to be tracing that path.

 ?

M

 ?

 ?

 ?

On Tue., Feb. 18, 2025, 10:50 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:


Sooooooooooooo ... no one's installed the AHSpares front disk kit?



On 2/18/2025 5:02 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:


I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven from Michigan to North and south Carolina, to Vermont to south Dacoda, ?to North Carolina, back and forth to Kentucky and beyond.

?I?ve done a few reversible upgrades.?

Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights Toyota transmission, third brake light, even (gasp) cruise control. I want my kids and grandkids to be able to drive it.?

It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In the meantime I?m driving the heck out of it.

I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the fatigue of driving it is costing me.

I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife doesn?t like them).?

Everything is (so far) easily reversible.?



Dr.Mitchell's Gmail

 ?

 ?

On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:


I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here in America, I like driving it, often?to gatherings 100 or more miles away. New radial tires add safety and handling while looking mostly original?and old as they are, Healeys still handle surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road. And alternator will charge a battery far better than the standard generator while a modern fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples of upgrades that maintain the original feel of the car while reducing the chance of being stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief in at least a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to spend more?time on the road and less time at a service station.?



Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS

 ?

On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:


Bob,
Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady doubtful.
When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.

Josef Eckert
Germany


-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>

The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys 
when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids 
(mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've 
gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the 
100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together 
original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not 
make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a 
museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all 
new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no 
amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with 
all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to 
install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car). 
'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which 
supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no 
issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across 
The Pond anyway)?

Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake 
kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be 
72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP 
Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot 
medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my 
fitness).

bs
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From roggrace at telus.net  Wed Feb 19 10:34:57 2025
From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 09:34:57 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Front pulley nut
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I am struggling on a BJ8 engine to break the front pulley nut.
It is quite a recent rebuild so suspect Loctite or similar is maybe the
culprit.
Locking tab/cup is definitely free
Using the proper size 1/2 x 1 11/16 socket.
Flywheel end securely locked via long bar onto solid concrete
Tried:
Long Crescent wrench and pounding
Breaker bar with 26 in total leverage - just bends
Electric impact wrench - had no expectations really
Air impact tool with supposed 800ft lbs (?) of loosening torque
1/2 in impact tool that pounded with 4 lb hammer
Some heat from a propane source. Probably needs proper Oxy Acet heat ?
Any thoughts ideas appreciated.and please not that it should be CC !
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Wed Feb 19 11:13:27 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 10:13:27 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Harder to search on their site, but I found a conversion kit that 
appears to be (at least) comparable for about ?300 less!

bs

On 2/19/2025 8:36 AM, Robert Markovich wrote:
> Many thanks for your recommendation regarding Ahead4Healeys. I?ve 
> never tried them but will!
>
>
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS 
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
> On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 10:56 AM, Simon Lachlan 
> <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:
>
>     It?s been my impression, over the years, that almost everyone is
>     safer than Moss. That?s purely as an observer/listener to comments
>     across the pond as virtually no one in the UK bothers with Moss at
>     all. Yes, agreed as to Michael?s comments regarding AHSpares. They
>     sold me a dud clutch and, although they replaced it without
>     argument, they were rather too nonchalant about the whole thing
>     for my liking. Despite several requests for feedback I never heard
>     anything. I use Ahead4Healeys nowadays. I dropped in on them a few
>     months back and they gave me a tour. All looked pretty efficient.
>     They had small units within doing interiors and panels etc?.all
>     high quality. Impressive!
>
>     Simon
>
>     *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of
>     *Robert Markovich via Healeys
>     *Sent:* 19 February 2025 15:02
>     *To:* Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>; Bob Spidell
>     <bspidell at comcast.net>
>     *Cc:* Healey, Forum <healeys at autox.team.net>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
>
>     That?s sad to hear as they have seemed to be a safer bet than Moss
>     over the 25 years I?ve owned Healeys (a BN6, a BN1, and currently
>     a BN7).
>
>     Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>     <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
>     On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 9:18 AM, Michael Salter
>     <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Having just received a shipment of parts yesterday from AH
>         Spares, of whom I have been a customer for over 50 years, I'm
>         sorry to say that I would now be very reluctant to purchase
>         something as safety critical as a front brake kit from them.
>
>         Unfortunately, based upon my? experience with several
>         suppliers over the years, as companies get larger they are
>         inclined to emphasize volume over quality and AH Spares seem
>         to be tracing that path.
>
>         M
>
>         On Tue., Feb. 18, 2025, 10:50 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys,
>         <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>             Sooooooooooooo ... no one's installed the AHSpares front
>             disk kit?
>
>             On 2/18/2025 5:02 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:
>
>                 I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven
>                 from Michigan to North and south Carolina, to Vermont
>                 to south Dacoda, ?to North Carolina, back and forth to
>                 Kentucky and beyond.
>
>                 ?I?ve done a few reversible upgrades.
>
>                 Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights
>                 Toyota transmission, third brake light, even (gasp)
>                 cruise control. I want my kids and grandkids to be
>                 able to drive it.
>
>                 It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In
>                 the meantime I?m driving the heck out of it.
>
>                 I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the
>                 fatigue of driving it is costing me.
>
>                 I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife
>                 doesn?t like them).
>
>                 Everything is (so far) easily reversible.
>
>                 Dr.Mitchell's Gmail
>
>                 On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via
>                 Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>                     I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY
>                     original. But here in America, I like driving it,
>                     often?to gatherings 100 or more miles away. New
>                     radial tires add safety and handling while looking
>                     mostly original?and old as they are, Healeys still
>                     handle surprisingly well, especially on a smooth
>                     road. And alternator will charge a battery far
>                     better than the standard generator while a modern
>                     fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples
>                     of upgrades that maintain the original feel of the
>                     car while reducing the chance of being stuck on
>                     the roadside. So I maintain my belief in at least
>                     a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to
>                     spend more?time on the road and less time at a
>                     service station.
>
>                     Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>                     <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
>                     On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM,
>                     josef-eckert--- via Healeys
>                     <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>                         Bob,
>                         Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and
>                         never will be again and so handles like an 70
>                         years old car. That?s what it should be and I
>                         am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what
>                         makes it even more attractive to me. My point
>                         is, this modifications are like a face lifting
>                         to a human beeing. It doesn?t make things
>                         better, even worse as it makes an stylish old
>                         lady doubtful.
>                         When it comes to selling, leave the car
>                         original and you would get a better price
>                         compared to a modified bitser, at least here
>                         in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would
>                         drive an Austin-Healey over long distances
>                         anymore, even its fitted with the newest
>                         gimmicks nobody really needs.
>
>                         Josef Eckert
>                         Germany
>
>
>                         -----Original-Nachricht-----
>                         Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
>                         Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
>                         Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys"
>                         <healeys at autox.team.net>
>                         An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>                         The current discussion re: "What should us old
>                         f***s do with our Healeys
>                         when we're too decrepit to drive them and the
>                         kids and grandkids
>                         (mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and
>                         related to a couple ads I've
>                         gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to
>                         thinking. I've largely kept the
>                         100M my dad found in the local newspaper that
>                         we restored together
>                         original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to
>                         that conversation, why not
>                         make some 'tweaks' to improve its
>                         drive-ability, since it won't end up a
>                         museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes
>                         suck. They're all
>                         new/refurbished, and stop well enough for
>                         drums, but pull badly and no
>                         amount of adjustment makes any difference (my
>                         dad's '65 Mustang, with
>                         all drums, was even worse, and I advised the
>                         guy who bought it to
>                         install front disks since it was to be his
>                         teenage daughter's car).
>                         'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded
>                         Panhard kit, which
>                         supposedly improves handling--though, besides
>                         the brakes I have no
>                         issues with its handling--but, why not (since
>                         I'll be shipping across
>                         The Pond anyway)?
>
>                         Anyway, anyone got experience with either of
>                         these mods, esp. the brake
>                         kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to
>                         my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be
>                         72 this year but can still drive well enough
>                         to wrangle a 480HP
>                         Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm
>                         considering re-upping my pilot
>                         medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell
>                         me something about my
>                         fitness).
>
>                         bs
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From roggrace at telus.net  Wed Feb 19 12:09:15 2025
From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 11:09:15 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Front pulley nut
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Much  later
Yippee borrowed a serious professional impact gun that worked fine.

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From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net>
Date: Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:34?AM
Subject: Front pulley nut
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>


I am struggling on a BJ8 engine to break the front pulley nut.
It is quite a recent rebuild so suspect Loctite or similar is maybe the
culprit.
Locking tab/cup is definitely free
Using the proper size 1/2 x 1 11/16 socket.
Flywheel end securely locked via long bar onto solid concrete
Tried:
Long Crescent wrench and pounding
Breaker bar with 26 in total leverage - just bends
Electric impact wrench - had no expectations really
Air impact tool with supposed 800ft lbs (?) of loosening torque
1/2 in impact tool that pounded with 4 lb hammer
Some heat from a propane source. Probably needs proper Oxy Acet heat ?
Any thoughts ideas appreciated.and please not that it should be CC !
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Wed Feb 19 13:23:18 2025
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:23:18 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Just FYI, Healey Autofarm here in Ontario Canada is a N.A. distributor for Ahead4Healeys.  You might want to call/email them and see what price they can provide as  they get shipments from them regularly.  Amanda and Tom there are great to deal with.  I have no financial interest in the company.    https://autofarm.net/

 

Cheers, Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell via Healeys
Sent: February 19, 2025 1:13 PM
To: Robert Markovich <rmarkovich at aol.com>
Cc: 'Healey, Forum' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods

 

Harder to search on their site, but I found a conversion kit that appears to be (at least) comparable for about ?300 less!

bs

On 2/19/2025 8:36 AM, Robert Markovich wrote:

Many thanks for your recommendation regarding Ahead4Healeys. I?ve never tried them but will!



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On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 10:56 AM, Simon Lachlan  <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:

It?s been my impression, over the years, that almost everyone is safer than Moss. That?s purely as an observer/listener to comments across the pond as virtually no one in the UK bothers with Moss at all. Yes, agreed as to Michael?s comments regarding AHSpares. They sold me a dud clutch and, although they replaced it without argument, they were rather too nonchalant about the whole thing for my liking. Despite several requests for feedback I never heard anything. I use Ahead4Healeys nowadays. I dropped in on them a few months back and they gave me a tour. All looked pretty efficient. They had small units within doing interiors and panels etc?.all high quality. Impressive!

Simon

 

From: Healeys  <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Robert Markovich via Healeys
Sent: 19 February 2025 15:02
To: Michael Salter  <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> <michaelsalter at gmail.com>; Bob Spidell  <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net> <bspidell at comcast.net>
Cc: Healey, Forum  <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods

 

That?s sad to hear as they have seemed to be a safer bet than Moss over the 25 years I?ve owned Healeys (a BN6, a BN1, and currently a BN7). 

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On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 9:18 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com> > wrote:

Having just received a shipment of parts yesterday from AH Spares, of whom I have been a customer for over 50 years, I'm sorry to say that I would now be very reluctant to purchase something as safety critical as a front brake kit from them. 

Unfortunately, based upon my  experience with several suppliers over the years, as companies get larger they are inclined to emphasize volume over quality and AH Spares seem to be tracing that path.

 

M

 

 

 

On Tue., Feb. 18, 2025, 10:50 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Sooooooooooooo ... no one's installed the AHSpares front disk kit?

On 2/18/2025 5:02 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:

I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven from Michigan to North and south Carolina, to Vermont to south Dacoda,  to North Carolina, back and forth to Kentucky and beyond.

 I?ve done a few reversible upgrades. 

Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights Toyota transmission, third brake light, even (gasp) cruise control. I want my kids and grandkids to be able to drive it. 

It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In the meantime I?m driving the heck out of it.

I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the fatigue of driving it is costing me.

I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife doesn?t like them). 

Everything is (so far) easily reversible. 



Dr.Mitchell's Gmail

 

 

On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here in America, I like driving it, often to gatherings 100 or more miles away. New radial tires add safety and handling while looking mostly original?and old as they are, Healeys still handle surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road. And alternator will charge a battery far better than the standard generator while a modern fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples of upgrades that maintain the original feel of the car while reducing the chance of being stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief in at least a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to spend more time on the road and less time at a service station. 

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On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Bob,
Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady doubtful.
When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.

Josef Eckert
Germany


-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >

The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys 
when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids 
(mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've 
gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the 
100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together 
original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not 
make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a 
museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all 
new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no 
amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with 
all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to 
install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car). 
'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which 
supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no 
issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across 
The Pond anyway)?

Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake 
kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be 
72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP 
Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot 
medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my 
fitness).

bs
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Wed Feb 19 15:40:44 2025
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:40:44 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Front pulley nut
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Factory "slugging wrench" never failed me.

On Wed., Feb. 19, 2025, 4:05 p.m. Roger Grace, <roggrace at telus.net> wrote:

> Much  later
> Yippee borrowed a serious professional impact gun that worked fine.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net>
> Date: Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:34?AM
> Subject: Front pulley nut
> To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>
> I am struggling on a BJ8 engine to break the front pulley nut.
> It is quite a recent rebuild so suspect Loctite or similar is maybe the
> culprit.
> Locking tab/cup is definitely free
> Using the proper size 1/2 x 1 11/16 socket.
> Flywheel end securely locked via long bar onto solid concrete
> Tried:
> Long Crescent wrench and pounding
> Breaker bar with 26 in total leverage - just bends
> Electric impact wrench - had no expectations really
> Air impact tool with supposed 800ft lbs (?) of loosening torque
> 1/2 in impact tool that pounded with 4 lb hammer
> Some heat from a propane source. Probably needs proper Oxy Acet heat ?
> Any thoughts ideas appreciated.and please not that it should be CC !
> rg
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From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (Simon Lachlan)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 22:52:03 -0000
Subject: [Healeys] Front pulley nut
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I use what we refer to as ?scaffolding pole? over here?..the stuff they use for erecting scaffolds around houses for building work. Anyhow, it?s tough stuff, for sure. I think that there are two sizes, one of which just fits inside the other. Anyhow???when the straits are really dire, I put my socket onto the offending nut, attach the breaker and slide the scaffolding pole right down it. Then I just put a long slow heave into it and ? usually ? hey presto. I suppose you?d not want to use a 12(?) point socket and your breaker bar better should be pretty robust. I?ve got various combinations but usually use about 4ft. I doubt I could bend that if I tried!

My wife has a little Toyota runabout and some clown gave it a good clout while we were on holiday last week. I had to remove one of the wheels and there was one nut which nothing would shift. Not even a ?? drive Milwaukee. So, out with the scaffolding pole?.Hey presto. Brute force and ignorance every time! Good luck.

Simon

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Roger Grace
Sent: 19 February 2025 17:35
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Front pulley nut

 

I am struggling on a BJ8 engine to break the front pulley nut.

It is quite a recent rebuild so suspect Loctite or similar is maybe the culprit.

Locking tab/cup is definitely free

Using the proper size 1/2 x 1 11/16 socket.

Flywheel end securely locked via long bar onto solid concrete

Tried:

Long Crescent wrench and pounding

Breaker bar with 26 in total leverage - just bends

Electric impact wrench - had no expectations really

Air impact tool with supposed 800ft lbs (?) of loosening torque

1/2 in impact tool that pounded with 4 lb hammer

Some heat from a propane source. Probably needs proper Oxy Acet heat ?

Any thoughts ideas appreciated.and please not that it should be CC !

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From sbyers at ec.rr.com  Wed Feb 19 16:56:44 2025
From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 18:56:44 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Front pulley nut
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I don?t recommend this method, but it ?worked? for me.
I was using a large spanner on the nut to turn the engine.  Later, forgetting about the wrench, I got in and turned the key.   The engine turned, the wrench turned with it until it hit the inner sheet metal.  The wrench stopped, but the engine didn?t, and it spun the nut off.  Even sheared the bent-over lock washer!  No damage to the sheet metal, though.  
 
Steve Byers
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large.  
 
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 5:41 PM
To: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Front pulley nut
 
Factory "slugging wrench" never failed me.
 
On Wed., Feb. 19, 2025, 4:05 p.m. Roger Grace, <roggrace at telus.net <mailto:roggrace at telus.net> > wrote:
Much  later 
Yippee borrowed a serious professional impact gun that worked fine.
 
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net <mailto:roggrace at telus.net> >
Date: Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:34?AM
Subject: Front pulley nut
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net> >
 
I am struggling on a BJ8 engine to break the front pulley nut.
It is quite a recent rebuild so suspect Loctite or similar is maybe the culprit.
Locking tab/cup is definitely free
Using the proper size 1/2 x 1 11/16 socket.
Flywheel end securely locked via long bar onto solid concrete
Tried:
Long Crescent wrench and pounding
Breaker bar with 26 in total leverage - just bends
Electric impact wrench - had no expectations really
Air impact tool with supposed 800ft lbs (?) of loosening torque
1/2 in impact tool that pounded with 4 lb hammer
Some heat from a propane source. Probably needs proper Oxy Acet heat ?
Any thoughts ideas appreciated.and please not that it should be CC !
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Wed Feb 19 17:55:07 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:55:07 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Great idea; I've ordered from them before--hard-to-find handle for block 
coolant valve--and was very happy with the service (think from Bob himself).


On 2/19/2025 12:23 PM, m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> Just FYI, Healey Autofarm here in Ontario Canada is a N.A. distributor 
> for Ahead4Healeys.? You might want to call/email them and see what 
> price they can provide as? they get shipments from them regularly.? 
> Amanda and Tom there are great to deal with. ?I have no financial 
> interest in the company. https://autofarm.net/
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Bob 
> Spidell via Healeys
> *Sent:* February 19, 2025 1:13 PM
> *To:* Robert Markovich <rmarkovich at aol.com>
> *Cc:* 'Healey, Forum' <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
>
> Harder to search on their site, but I found a conversion kit that 
> appears to be (at least) comparable for about ?300 less!
>
> bs
>
> On 2/19/2025 8:36 AM, Robert Markovich wrote:
>
>     Many thanks for your recommendation regarding Ahead4Healeys. I?ve
>     never tried them but will!
>
>     Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>     <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
>     On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 10:56 AM, Simon Lachlan
>     <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com>
>     <mailto:simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:
>
>         It?s been my impression, over the years, that almost everyone
>         is safer than Moss. That?s purely as an observer/listener to
>         comments across the pond as virtually no one in the UK bothers
>         with Moss at all. Yes, agreed as to Michael?s comments
>         regarding AHSpares. They sold me a dud clutch and, although
>         they replaced it without argument, they were rather too
>         nonchalant about the whole thing for my liking. Despite
>         several requests for feedback I never heard anything. I use
>         Ahead4Healeys nowadays. I dropped in on them a few months back
>         and they gave me a tour. All looked pretty efficient. They had
>         small units within doing interiors and panels etc?.all high
>         quality. Impressive!
>
>         Simon
>
>         *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net>
>         <mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Robert
>         Markovich via Healeys
>         *Sent:* 19 February 2025 15:02
>         *To:* Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
>         <mailto:michaelsalter at gmail.com>; Bob Spidell
>         <bspidell at comcast.net> <mailto:bspidell at comcast.net>
>         *Cc:* Healey, Forum <healeys at autox.team.net>
>         <mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
>         *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
>
>         That?s sad to hear as they have seemed to be a safer bet than
>         Moss over the 25 years I?ve owned Healeys (a BN6, a BN1, and
>         currently a BN7).
>
>         Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>         <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
>         On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 9:18 AM, Michael Salter
>         <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>             Having just received a shipment of parts yesterday from AH
>             Spares, of whom I have been a customer for over 50 years,
>             I'm sorry to say that I would now be very reluctant to
>             purchase something as safety critical as a front brake kit
>             from them.
>
>             Unfortunately, based upon my? experience with several
>             suppliers over the years, as companies get larger they are
>             inclined to emphasize volume over quality and AH Spares
>             seem to be tracing that path.
>
>             M
>
>             On Tue., Feb. 18, 2025, 10:50 p.m. Bob Spidell via
>             Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>                 Sooooooooooooo ... no one's installed the AHSpares
>                 front disk kit?
>
>                 On 2/18/2025 5:02 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:
>
>                     I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve
>                     driven from Michigan to North and south Carolina,
>                     to Vermont to south Dacoda, ?to North Carolina,
>                     back and forth to Kentucky and beyond.
>
>                     ?I?ve done a few reversible upgrades.
>
>                     Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights
>                     Toyota transmission, third brake light, even
>                     (gasp) cruise control. I want my kids and
>                     grandkids to be able to drive it.
>
>                     It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day.
>                     In the meantime I?m driving the heck out of it.
>
>                     I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the
>                     fatigue of driving it is costing me.
>
>                     I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my
>                     wife doesn?t like them).
>
>                     Everything is (so far) easily reversible.
>
>                     Dr.Mitchell's Gmail
>
>                     On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich
>                     via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>                         I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY
>                         original. But here in America, I like driving
>                         it, often?to gatherings 100 or more miles
>                         away. New radial tires add safety and handling
>                         while looking mostly original?and old as they
>                         are, Healeys still handle surprisingly well,
>                         especially on a smooth road. And alternator
>                         will charge a battery far better than the
>                         standard generator while a modern fuel pump is
>                         likelier to keep working?two examples of
>                         upgrades that maintain the original feel of
>                         the car while reducing the chance of being
>                         stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief
>                         in at least a few sympathetic upgrades to
>                         allow my Healey to spend more?time on the road
>                         and less time at a service station.
>
>                         Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
>                         <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661>
>
>                         On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM,
>                         josef-eckert--- via Healeys
>                         <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>                             Bob,
>                             Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and
>                             never will be again and so handles like an
>                             70 years old car. That?s what it should be
>                             and I am really happy my 100 handles
>                             "vintage" what makes it even more
>                             attractive to me. My point is, this
>                             modifications are like a face lifting to a
>                             human beeing. It doesn?t make things
>                             better, even worse as it makes an stylish
>                             old lady doubtful.
>                             When it comes to selling, leave the car
>                             original and you would get a better price
>                             compared to a modified bitser, at least
>                             here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely
>                             would drive an Austin-Healey over long
>                             distances anymore, even its fitted with
>                             the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.
>
>                             Josef Eckert
>                             Germany
>
>
>                             -----Original-Nachricht-----
>                             Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
>                             Datum: 2025-02-18T18:29:33+0100
>                             Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys"
>                             <healeys at autox.team.net>
>                             An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>                             The current discussion re: "What should us
>                             old f***s do with our Healeys
>                             when we're too decrepit to drive them and
>                             the kids and grandkids
>                             (mostly) want nothing to do with
>                             them"--and related to a couple ads I've
>                             gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to
>                             thinking. I've largely kept the
>                             100M my dad found in the local newspaper
>                             that we restored together
>                             original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant
>                             to that conversation, why not
>                             make some 'tweaks' to improve its
>                             drive-ability, since it won't end up a
>                             museum piece anyway? In particular: the
>                             brakes suck. They're all
>                             new/refurbished, and stop well enough for
>                             drums, but pull badly and no
>                             amount of adjustment makes any difference
>                             (my dad's '65 Mustang, with
>                             all drums, was even worse, and I advised
>                             the guy who bought it to
>                             install front disks since it was to be his
>                             teenage daughter's car).
>                             'Spares also hit me with an ad for an
>                             upgraded Panhard kit, which
>                             supposedly improves handling--though,
>                             besides the brakes I have no
>                             issues with its handling--but, why not
>                             (since I'll be shipping across
>                             The Pond anyway)?
>
>                             Anyway, anyone got experience with either
>                             of these mods, esp. the brake
>                             kit (the rotors look a little thin
>                             compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be
>                             72 this year but can still drive well
>                             enough to wrangle a 480HP
>                             Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm
>                             considering re-upping my pilot
>                             medical (which, if I'm successful, should
>                             tell me something about my
>                             fitness).
>
>                             bs
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Wed Feb 19 17:58:44 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 16:58:44 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Front pulley nut
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I bought a 3/4" pneumatic impact wrench from Harbor Freight for this 
one-time (hopefully) job (ran it at 100psi IIRC). Rad has to be out, of 
course.

On 2/19/2025 9:34 AM, Roger Grace wrote:
> I am struggling on a BJ8 engine to break the front pulley nut.
> It is quite a recent rebuild so suspect Loctite or similar is maybe 
> the culprit.
> Locking tab/cup is definitely free
> Using the proper size 1/2 x 1 11/16 socket.
> Flywheel end securely locked via long bar onto solid concrete
> Tried:
> Long Crescent wrench and pounding
> Breaker bar with 26 in total leverage - just bends
> Electric impact wrench - had no expectations really
> Air impact tool with supposed 800ft lbs (?) of loosening torque
> 1/2 in impact tool that pounded with 4 lb hammer
> Some heat from a propane source. Probably needs proper Oxy Acet heat ?
> Any thoughts ideas appreciated.and please not that it should be CC !
> rg
>
>

From phoenix722 at comcast.net  Wed Feb 19 21:12:34 2025
From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair)
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 20:12:34 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Front pulley nut
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Exciting!

On 2/19/25 3:56 PM, sbyers--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> I don?t recommend this method, but it ?worked? for me.
>
> I was using a large spanner on the nut to turn the engine.Later, 
> forgetting about the wrench, I got in and turned the key.The engine 
> turned, the wrench turned with it until it hit the inner sheet 
> metal.The wrench stopped, but the engine didn?t, and it spun the nut 
> off.Even sheared the bent-over lock washer!No damage to the sheet 
> metal, though.
>
> Steve Byers
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large.
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael 
> Salter
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2025 5:41 PM
> *To:* Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net>
> *Cc:* Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Front pulley nut
>
> Factory "slugging wrench" never failed me.
>
> On Wed., Feb. 19, 2025, 4:05 p.m. Roger Grace, <roggrace at telus.net> wrote:
>
>     Much? later
>
>     Yippee borrowed a serious professional impact gun that worked fine.
>
>     ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>     From: *Roger Grace* <roggrace at telus.net>
>     Date: Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:34?AM
>     Subject: Front pulley nut
>     To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
>
>     I am struggling on a BJ8 engine to break the front pulley nut.
>
>     It is quite a recent rebuild so suspect Loctite or similar is
>     maybe the culprit.
>
>     Locking tab/cup is definitely free
>
>     Using the proper size 1/2 x 1 11/16 socket.
>
>     Flywheel end securely locked via long bar onto solid concrete
>
>     Tried:
>
>     Long Crescent wrench and pounding
>
>     Breaker bar with 26 in total leverage - just bends
>
>     Electric impact wrench - had no expectations really
>
>     Air impact tool with supposed 800ft lbs (?) of loosening torque
>
>     1/2 in impact tool that pounded with 4 lb hammer
>
>     Some heat from a propane source. Probably needs proper Oxy Acet heat ?
>
>     Any thoughts ideas appreciated.and please not that it should be CC !
>
>     rg
>
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From gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com  Thu Feb 20 07:17:35 2025
From: gonnagitcha90 at hotmail.com (Richard Collins)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 14:17:35 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Front pulley nut
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Send photos ?
Regards,
Richard C


On Feb 19, 2025, at 22:22, Mike Sinclair via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

?

Exciting!

On 2/19/25 3:56 PM, sbyers--- via Healeys wrote:
I don?t recommend this method, but it ?worked? for me.
I was using a large spanner on the nut to turn the engine.  Later, forgetting about the wrench, I got in and turned the key.   The engine turned, the wrench turned with it until it hit the inner sheet metal.  The wrench stopped, but the engine didn?t, and it spun the nut off.  Even sheared the bent-over lock washer!  No damage to the sheet metal, though.

Steve Byers
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large.

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net><mailto:healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 5:41 PM
To: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net><mailto:roggrace at telus.net>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net><mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Front pulley nut

Factory "slugging wrench" never failed me.

On Wed., Feb. 19, 2025, 4:05 p.m. Roger Grace, <roggrace at telus.net<mailto:roggrace at telus.net>> wrote:
Much  later
Yippee borrowed a serious professional impact gun that worked fine.

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From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net<mailto:roggrace at telus.net>>
Date: Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:34?AM
Subject: Front pulley nut
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net<mailto:healeys at autox.team.net>>

I am struggling on a BJ8 engine to break the front pulley nut.
It is quite a recent rebuild so suspect Loctite or similar is maybe the culprit.
Locking tab/cup is definitely free
Using the proper size 1/2 x 1 11/16 socket.
Flywheel end securely locked via long bar onto solid concrete
Tried:
Long Crescent wrench and pounding
Breaker bar with 26 in total leverage - just bends
Electric impact wrench - had no expectations really
Air impact tool with supposed 800ft lbs (?) of loosening torque
1/2 in impact tool that pounded with 4 lb hammer
Some heat from a propane source. Probably needs proper Oxy Acet heat ?
Any thoughts ideas appreciated.and please not that it should be CC !
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Thu Feb 20 09:08:43 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:08:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Front pulley nut
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As I found, the engine also has to be tilted up to remove the pulley when it?s on the car?an unfortunate design flaw.?


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On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 8:54 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:

I bought a 3/4" pneumatic impact wrench from Harbor Freight for this 
one-time (hopefully) job (ran it at 100psi IIRC). Rad has to be out, of 
course.

On 2/19/2025 9:34 AM, Roger Grace wrote:
> I am struggling on a BJ8 engine to break the front pulley nut.
> It is quite a recent rebuild so suspect Loctite or similar is maybe 
> the culprit.
> Locking tab/cup is definitely free
> Using the proper size 1/2 x 1 11/16 socket.
> Flywheel end securely locked via long bar onto solid concrete
> Tried:
> Long Crescent wrench and pounding
> Breaker bar with 26 in total leverage - just bends
> Electric impact wrench - had no expectations really
> Air impact tool with supposed 800ft lbs (?) of loosening torque
> 1/2 in impact tool that pounded with 4 lb hammer
> Some heat from a propane source. Probably needs proper Oxy Acet heat ?
> Any thoughts ideas appreciated.and please not that it should be CC !
> rg
>
>
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From rmarkovich at aol.com  Thu Feb 20 09:10:02 2025
From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:10:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Front pulley nut
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This is a common if somewhat crude method that sometimes works!


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I don?t recommend this method, but it ?worked? for me.

I was using a large spanner on the nut to turn the engine.? Later, forgetting about the wrench, I got in and turned the key.? ?The engine turned, the wrench turned with it until it hit the inner sheet metal.? The wrench stopped, but the engine didn?t, and it spun the nut off.? Even sheared the bent-over lock washer!? No damage to the sheet metal, though.? 

 ?

Steve Byers

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large.? 

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Salter
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 5:41 PM
To: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net>
Cc: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: Front pulley nut

 ?

Factory "slugging wrench" never failed me.

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On Wed., Feb. 19, 2025, 4:05 p.m. Roger Grace, <roggrace at telus.net> wrote:


Much? later 

Yippee borrowed a serious professional impact gun that worked fine.

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---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Roger Grace <roggrace at telus.net>
Date: Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:34?AM
Subject: Front pulley nut
To: Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net>

 ?

I am struggling on a BJ8 engine to break the front pulley nut.

It is quite a recent rebuild so suspect Loctite or similar is maybe the culprit.

Locking tab/cup is definitely free

Using the proper size 1/2 x 1 11/16 socket.

Flywheel end securely locked via long bar onto solid concrete

Tried:

Long Crescent wrench and pounding

Breaker bar with 26 in total leverage - just bends

Electric impact wrench - had no expectations really

Air impact tool with supposed 800ft lbs (?) of loosening torque

1/2 in impact tool that pounded with 4 lb hammer

Some heat from a propane source. Probably needs proper Oxy Acet heat ?

Any thoughts ideas appreciated.and please not that it should be CC !

rg

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From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:11:31 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Thanks?I will give Autofarm a try!


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Just FYI, Healey Autofarm here in Ontario Canada is a N.A. distributor for Ahead4Healeys.? You might want to call/email them and see what price they can provide as? they get shipments from them regularly.? Amanda and Tom there are great to deal with. ?I have no financial interest in the company.?? ?https://autofarm.net/

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Cheers, Mirek

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell via Healeys
Sent: February 19, 2025 1:13 PM
To: Robert Markovich <rmarkovich at aol.com>
Cc: 'Healey, Forum' <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods

 ?

Harder to search on their site, but I found a conversion kit that appears to be (at least) comparable for about ?300 less!

bs

On 2/19/2025 8:36 AM, Robert Markovich wrote:


Many thanks for your recommendation regarding Ahead4Healeys. I?ve never tried them but will!



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On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 10:56 AM, Simon Lachlan <simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:


It?s been my impression, over the years, that almost everyone is safer than Moss. That?s purely as an observer/listener to comments across the pond as virtually no one in the UK bothers with Moss at all. Yes, agreed as to Michael?s comments regarding AHSpares. They sold me a dud clutch and, although they replaced it without argument, they were rather too nonchalant about the whole thing for my liking. Despite several requests for feedback I never heard anything. I use Ahead4Healeys nowadays. I dropped in on them a few months back and they gave me a tour. All looked pretty efficient. They had small units within doing interiors and panels etc?.all high quality. Impressive!

Simon

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Sent: 19 February 2025 15:02
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>; Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net>
Cc: Healey, Forum <healeys at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods

?

That?s sad to hear as they have seemed to be a safer bet than Moss over the 25 years I?ve owned Healeys (a BN6, a BN1, and currently a BN7).?

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On Wednesday, February 19, 2025, 9:18 AM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:


Having just received a shipment of parts yesterday from AH Spares, of whom I have been a customer for over 50 years, I'm sorry to say that I would now be very reluctant to purchase something as safety critical as a front brake kit from them.?

Unfortunately, based upon my? experience with several suppliers over the years, as companies get larger they are inclined to emphasize volume over quality and AH Spares seem to be tracing that path.

?

M

?

?

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On Tue., Feb. 18, 2025, 10:50 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:


Sooooooooooooo ... no one's installed the AHSpares front disk kit?

On 2/18/2025 5:02 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:


I love absolutely love driving my Healey, I?ve driven from Michigan to North and south Carolina, to Vermont to south Dacoda, ?to North Carolina, back and forth to Kentucky and beyond.

?I?ve done a few reversible upgrades.?

Alternator, additional fuses, halogen headlights Toyota transmission, third brake light, even (gasp) cruise control. I want my kids and grandkids to be able to drive it.?

It?s needs a new or rebuilt frame, maybe one day. In the meantime I?m driving the heck out of it.

I?m in my early 70s, love working on it, but the fatigue of driving it is costing me.

I have Mieka seats (not installed) so maybe (my wife doesn?t like them).?

Everything is (so far) easily reversible.?



Dr.Mitchell's Gmail

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?

On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:42?PM Robert Markovich via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:


I believe in keeping my Healey ESSENTIALLY original. But here in America, I like driving it, often?to gatherings 100 or more miles away. New radial tires add safety and handling while looking mostly original?and old as they are, Healeys still handle surprisingly well, especially on a smooth road. And alternator will charge a battery far better than the standard generator while a modern fuel pump is likelier to keep working?two examples of upgrades that maintain the original feel of the car while reducing the chance of being stuck on the roadside. So I maintain my belief in at least a few sympathetic upgrades to allow my Healey to spend more?time on the road and less time at a service station.?

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On Tuesday, February 18, 2025, 1:14 PM, josef-eckert--- via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:


Bob,
Your Austin-Healey is not a modern car and never will be again and so handles like an 70 years old car. That?s what it should be and I am really happy my 100 handles "vintage" what makes it even more attractive to me. My point is, this modifications are like a face lifting to a human beeing. It doesn?t make things better, even worse as it makes an stylish old lady doubtful.
When it comes to selling, leave the car original and you would get a better price compared to a modified bitser, at least here in Europe. Here in Europe you rarely would drive an Austin-Healey over long distances anymore, even its fitted with the newest gimmicks nobody really needs.

Josef Eckert
Germany


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Betreff: [Healeys] Healey 100 Mods
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Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>
An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>

The current discussion re: "What should us old f***s do with our Healeys 
when we're too decrepit to drive them and the kids and grandkids 
(mostly) want nothing to do with them"--and related to a couple ads I've 
gotten recently from AHSpares--got me to thinking. I've largely kept the 
100M my dad found in the local newspaper that we restored together 
original, but now I'm thinking, pursuant to that conversation, why not 
make some 'tweaks' to improve its drive-ability, since it won't end up a 
museum piece anyway? In particular: the brakes suck. They're all 
new/refurbished, and stop well enough for drums, but pull badly and no 
amount of adjustment makes any difference (my dad's '65 Mustang, with 
all drums, was even worse, and I advised the guy who bought it to 
install front disks since it was to be his teenage daughter's car). 
'Spares also hit me with an ad for an upgraded Panhard kit, which 
supposedly improves handling--though, besides the brakes I have no 
issues with its handling--but, why not (since I'll be shipping across 
The Pond anyway)?

Anyway, anyone got experience with either of these mods, esp. the brake 
kit (the rotors look a little thin compared to my BJ8's)? FWIW, I'll be 
72 this year but can still drive well enough to wrangle a 480HP 
Mustang--my wife might disagree--and I'm considering re-upping my pilot 
medical (which, if I'm successful, should tell me something about my 
fitness).

bs
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Thu Feb 20 11:35:24 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 10:35:24 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] BN1 FS
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Apropos of nothing, I came across this listing on a forum. This might be 
the nicest 100 I've seen, esp. for the panel fit (wouldn't be my choice 
of color, though). The only thing that I can see that /may /not be 
original is the water pump inlet valve (I can't tell for sure, and don't 
know if the BN1s have the same style as my BN2).

I have no financial interest in this car, nor do I know anything about 
it other than what's on the listing:

https://www.ahexp.com/registry/1954-Austin-Healey-100-BN1L152492.62407/
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From: josef-eckert at t-online.de (josef-eckert at t-online.de)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 20:14:30 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Healeys] BN1 FS
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Nice car, on short clance hood is missing and bonnet shouldn?t be louvered. 
My May 1954 BN1 has same colour combo.

 

 

 

 

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Betreff: [Healeys] BN1 FS

Datum: 2025-02-20T20:04:38+0100

Von: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>

An: "Healeys" <healeys at autox.team.net>

 

 

 

Apropos of nothing, I came across this listing on a forum. This might be 
the nicest 100 I've seen, esp. for the panel fit (wouldn't be my choice of 
color, though). The only thing that I can see that may not be original is 
the water pump inlet valve (I can't tell for sure, and don't know if the 
BN1s have the same style as my BN2).

I have no financial interest in this car, nor do I know anything about it 
other than what's on the listing:

<https://www.ahexp.com/registry/1954-Austin-Healey-100-BN1L152492.62407/>

 

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From roggrace at telus.net  Sun Feb 23 11:51:13 2025
From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 10:51:13 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Main Bearing cap puller
Message-ID: <CALPtYiM8XigEmYbtmthE5aNozbz0k6u_Tp5vV8r4J946ULNWAA@mail.gmail.com>

Could someone please advise ... ?
What is the diameter and thread of the hole in the rear of the main bearing
caps ?
 7/16-20 is too loose ?
 1/2 in rod does not go in.
Need to make puller to release mine.
Tkx
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From boyracer466 at gmail.com  Sun Feb 23 12:51:15 2025
From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 11:51:15 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Main Bearing cap puller
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It?s pipe thread.


Richard Mayor
boyracer466 at gmail.com



> On Feb 23, 2025, at 10:51?AM, Roger Grace via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Could someone please advise ... ?
> What is the diameter and thread of the hole in the rear of the main bearing caps ?
>  7/16-20 is too loose ?
>  1/2 in rod does not go in.
> Need to make puller to release mine.
> Tkx
> rg
> 
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From michaelsalter at gmail.com  Sun Feb 23 13:23:30 2025
From: michaelsalter at gmail.com (Michael Salter)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 15:23:30 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] Main Bearing cap puller
In-Reply-To: <AC2B33B9-7308-46B5-AE78-358D857C1B31@gmail.com>
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Yes, Richard is absolutely correct. I use a pipe nipple on the end of a big
slide hammer to remove them.

M

On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 3:02?PM richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com> wrote:

> It?s pipe thread.
>
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Feb 23, 2025, at 10:51?AM, Roger Grace via Healeys <
> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Could someone please advise ... ?
> What is the diameter and thread of the hole in the rear of the main
> bearing caps ?
>  7/16-20 is too loose ?
>  1/2 in rod does not go in.
> Need to make puller to release mine.
> Tkx
> rg
>
>
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From manifold at telus.net  Sun Feb 23 13:52:45 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 12:52:45 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Main Bearing cap puller
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Roger,

If I had to guess it is 3/8 x 19 BSPT. A close fit would be 3/8 x 18 NPT.

Harold

On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 12:37?PM Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, Richard is absolutely correct. I use a pipe nipple on the end of a
> big slide hammer to remove them.
>
> M
>
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 3:02?PM richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It?s pipe thread.
>>
>>
>> Richard Mayor
>> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2025, at 10:51?AM, Roger Grace via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Could someone please advise ... ?
>> What is the diameter and thread of the hole in the rear of the main
>> bearing caps ?
>>  7/16-20 is too loose ?
>>  1/2 in rod does not go in.
>> Need to make puller to release mine.
>> Tkx
>> rg
>>
>>
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From roggrace at telus.net  Sun Feb 23 20:29:38 2025
From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace)
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 19:29:38 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Main Bearing cap puller
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Thanks to all  - great advice. So, now have 3 of the 4 mains out. The back
one has different diameter so will have to revisit the slide hammer I made
up with the largest 3/4 in socket that in my collection.
rg

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On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 12:23?PM Michael Salter <michaelsalter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, Richard is absolutely correct. I use a pipe nipple on the end of a
> big slide hammer to remove them.
>
> M
>
> On Sun, Feb 23, 2025 at 3:02?PM richard mayor <boyracer466 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It?s pipe thread.
>>
>>
>> Richard Mayor
>> boyracer466 at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2025, at 10:51?AM, Roger Grace via Healeys <
>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Could someone please advise ... ?
>> What is the diameter and thread of the hole in the rear of the main
>> bearing caps ?
>>  7/16-20 is too loose ?
>>  1/2 in rod does not go in.
>> Need to make puller to release mine.
>> Tkx
>> rg
>>
>>
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From tappiokie at gmail.com  Thu Feb 27 20:39:52 2025
From: tappiokie at gmail.com (Jim Cox)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 22:39:52 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] (no subject)
Message-ID: <CACkEpkRwm+VuLJU9uRs0_noUsOieELP66-SKYXXkZwRfDdJsfA@mail.gmail.com>

Would anyone have the thread dimensions for the female nut attaching the
steel fuel line to the fuel tank. Appears to be an original tank. The
fitting won't tighten and the nut is stripped.
The pipe running from the tank to the fuel pump isn't sold separately so I
am going to make one.
Of course if anyone has a spare available,  let me know. Thanks , Jim
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From m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca  Thu Feb 27 20:55:40 2025
From: m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca (m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 22:55:40 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] (no subject)
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I can?t say for sure and don?t have one to measure, but it is probably a BSPP thread.

 

Mirek

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jim Cox
Sent: February 27, 2025 10:40 PM
To: healeys at autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] (no subject)

 

Would anyone have the thread dimensions for the female nut attaching the steel fuel line to the fuel tank. Appears to be an original tank. The fitting won't tighten and the nut is stripped.  

The pipe running from the tank to the fuel pump isn't sold separately so I am going to make one. 

Of course if anyone has a spare available,  let me know. Thanks , Jim 

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From rchaskell at earthlink.net  Fri Feb 28 06:14:38 2025
From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 08:14:38 -0500
Subject: [Healeys] (no subject)
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Jim,

Not sure which model you have.? For the 3000 gas tank, it's 1/4-19 tpi 
British Standard Parallel Pipe thread.? The OD of the gas tank fitting 
is 0.518".

Cheers,

Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar

On 2/27/25 22:55, m.g.sharp at sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> I can?t say for sure and don?t have one to measure, but it is probably 
> a BSPP thread.
>
> Mirek
>
> *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Jim Cox
> *Sent:* February 27, 2025 10:40 PM
> *To:* healeys at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] (no subject)
>
> Would anyone have the thread dimensions for the female nut attaching 
> the steel fuel line to the fuel tank. Appears to be an original tank. 
> The fitting won't tighten and the nut is stripped.
>
> The pipe running from the tank to the fuel pump isn't sold separately 
> so I am going to make one.
>
> Of course if anyone has a spare available,? let me know. Thanks , Jim
>
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From manifold at telus.net  Fri Feb 28 14:27:11 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 13:27:11 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Leaking Brake Supply Tank
Message-ID: <CAFP1XCBkY-HWd4JDqLXMJhy2iBU49rY937jCNAk=a+Q_Yh6iAw@mail.gmail.com>

I was getting my car ready for driving and discovered a very minor leak
from the fittings in the bottom of the tank. Retightened all of the
fittings but the leak is still there. Does anyone have a recommendation on
suitable aftermarket sealing washers or other suggestions?

Thanks... Harold
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Fri Feb 28 15:57:38 2025
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 22:57:38 +0000
Subject: [Healeys] Leaking Brake Supply Tank
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From manifold at telus.net  Fri Feb 28 17:37:03 2025
From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:37:03 -0800
Subject: [Healeys] Leaking Brake Supply Tank
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Hank,

Thanks for the reply. I looked at the Moss website but couldn't find them.
Do you know that Moss part number?

Harold


On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 2:57?PM Hank Leach <gradea1 at charter.net> wrote:

> Harold- Moss has a upgrade kit that Roger Moment developed-it will stop
> the leak and look fairly original-read the note on their site. Hank
> --------------------
>
> From: "Harold Manifold" <manifold at telus.net>
> To: "Healey List" <Healeys at autox.team.net>
> Sent: February 28, 2025 at 1:44 PM PST
> Subject: [Healeys] Leaking Brake Supply Tank
> I was getting my car ready for driving and discovered a very minor leak
> from the fittings in the bottom of the tank. Retightened all of the
> fittings but the leak is still there. Does anyone have a recommendation on
> suitable aftermarket sealing washers or other suggestions?
>
> Thanks... Harold
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From gradea1 at charter.net  Fri Feb 28 19:12:15 2025
From: gradea1 at charter.net (Hank Leach)
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 02:12:15 +0000
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