[Healeys] Hello

Wed Feb 19 04:47:14 MST 2025

Use a paper gasket smeared with any sealant like Permatex. Not really 
critical.
Kees Oudesluijs

Op 17-2-2025 om 05:30 schreef Michael Oritt:suicidal let's discuss the 
probabilities of developing prostate cancer (which I've had).
> For me I'd rather read about something related to the use of our cars 
> and I still haven't seen a response to my question about thermostat 
> gasket sealant.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 9:01 PM James Frey via Healeys 
> <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     The costs you cite below are inexorably linked to the “What to Do
>     with our Healeys” question that was also raised. Over the last
>     several years, I have restored/built 3 cars with most of the work
>     done by a local shop (one of which was a Bugeye).  I needed to
>     have most work performed by my shop.  Although my skills are
>     moderate and I enjoy turning wrenches, my time available to do so
>     has lessened in recent years.
>
>     Given the above circumstances, I have easily spent 2-3 times
>     market value on the purchase price, work performed, parts, etc.  I
>     consider myself lucky to have a trusted local shop, but depending
>     on where you live (even assuming you are willing to spend the
>     money), it can be extraordinarily difficult to get the cars
>     serviced, let alone have significant restoration work done.  I
>     also don’t see the value of most Healeys going up much, and it
>     might go down given the (arguably) shrinking market/demographics
>     for these cars.
>
>     So given my recent experience, as much as I might love to own a
>     BJ8 and would consider myself “a trusted steward”, paying
>     significant dollars (even for a beautifully restored car) in a
>     declining market might not be the best idea.  As for a car that
>     “needs work”, I’m starting to feel like I’ve been there and done
>     that a little too often. Also, there are fun (more modern) cars
>     out there for similar dollars that don’t present the same
>     financial risk and difficulties in selling.
>
>     Lastly, I’m 61 (so not “young”) and I think those that are younger
>     than me are an even tougher sell.  I have 2 adult sons that have a
>     moderate interest in cars and the “old cars” they might have an
>     interest in are probably from 2000-2010.
>
>     The market is undeniably softer than previously, but I actually
>     think current values are a sellers market, even in the US.  With
>     the potential for declining demand, it’s hard for me to see an
>     improving Healey market over the next 10+ years.
>
>     Jim
>
>
>
>>     On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:16 PM, Michael Salter
>>     <michaelsalter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>     Very good question.
>>     All the work that you describe requires an individual with
>>     significant skill(s). These tasks are not something that your
>>     "run of the mill" parts changer can undertake.  In our part of
>>     the world (Canada) those "parts changers", without breaking a
>>     sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which equates to $50/hr.
>>     $50/hr paid to the tradesman will typically be charged out at an
>>     hourly rate of at least $100.
>>     In my book a full restoration takes 1200 hours at least, usually
>>     a lot more to produce concours standards.
>>     So labour ONLY $120K.
>>     Parts and materials usually at least 50% of labour. $60K.
>>     Incidentals at least another $20K
>>     It's getting up there 😳😳
>>
>>     M
>>
>>
>>     On Sun., Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson--- via Healeys,
>>     <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>         The list has been very quiet for a long time.
>>         How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1?
>>         The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes
>>         final fitting all body panels, preparing for paint & final
>>         painting.
>>         Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior,
>>         fitting the windscreen, convertible top, side curtains
>>         including providing all material where necessary.
>>         Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all
>>         the necessary components.
>>
>>         Gary Hodson
>>
>>
>>         On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike
>>         Sinclair via Healeys <healeys at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         Is it me, or is the list quiet?  I haven't seen anything for
>>         quite a while?
>>
>>         Mik
>>
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