From rantal243 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 2 14:32:56 2025 From: rantal243 at yahoo.com (Richard Antal) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 20:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> Listers,? ? My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It vanished two days later.? ? Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......Rich Antal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Thu Oct 2 16:45:19 2025 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 15:45:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Rich, Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. What was the water temperature gauge saying? Harold On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39?PM Richard Antal via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Listers, > My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I > noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It > vanished two days later. > Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating > radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw > that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had > confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular > impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator > was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had > given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which > prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the > underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all > bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the > radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. > I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts...... > Rich Antal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.salter at gmail.com Thu Oct 2 19:38:52 2025 From: michael.salter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 01:38:52 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability. M ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Harold Manifold Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM To: Richard Antal Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery Rich, Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. What was the water temperature gauge saying? Harold On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39?PM Richard Antal via Healeys > wrote: Listers, My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It vanished two days later. Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts...... Rich Antal _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Oct 2 19:46:19 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 18:46:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <21298203-f0b5-41b4-a231-f5c164f23dba@comcast.net> If the bushes on the rear tie rod are rubber they could /look /OK, but actually be pretty soft (I went with urethane bushes years ago). That, combined with weak motor mounts could allow the engine to slide forward on hard deceleration. If you watch them while you rev the engine the blades on the fan will flex just a bit forward. That, combined with weak bushings and/or mounts could cause issue. I presume you mounted the radiator as far forward as possible? Bob On 10/2/2025 1:32 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys wrote: > Listers, > ? ? My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I > noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It > vanished two days later. > ? ? Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating > radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I > saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had > confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular > impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That > radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling > tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the > harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. > Inspection of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked > fine to me: all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine > after filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the > fan nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for > your thoughts...... > Rich Antal > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rantal243 at yahoo.com Fri Oct 3 06:04:28 2025 From: rantal243 at yahoo.com (Richard Antal) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 12:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1741028941.3536900.1759493068512@mail.yahoo.com> I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent of cool weather in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I slipped a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard in place and the temp gauge never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the temp gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any problem until arriving home, I could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and below the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, they did and thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't leak. Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and watch the temp gauge keenly.......rich On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael Salter wrote: I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability. M From: Healeys on behalf of Harold Manifold Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM To: Richard Antal Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery?Rich, Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that pushes air, in other words towards?the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature?was very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. What was the water temperature gauge saying? Harold On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39?PM Richard Antal via Healeys wrote: Listers,? ? My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It vanished two days later.? ? Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......Rich Antal_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey100s at live.com Sat Oct 4 22:15:44 2025 From: healey100s at live.com (Don Anglesey) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2025 04:15:44 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: <1741028941.3536900.1759493068512@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> <1741028941.3536900.1759493068512@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ditch the Texas cooler, British car specialists sell a nice stainless-steel fan that doesn't flex into your radiator. Don Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Richard Antal via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM To: Harold Manifold ; Michael Salter Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent of cool weather in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I slipped a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard in place and the temp gauge never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the temp gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any problem until arriving home, I could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and below the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, they did and thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't leak. Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and watch the temp gauge keenly.......rich On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael Salter wrote: I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability. M ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Harold Manifold Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM To: Richard Antal Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery Rich, Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. What was the water temperature gauge saying? Harold On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39?PM Richard Antal via Healeys > wrote: Listers, My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It vanished two days later. Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts...... Rich Antal _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Oct 4 23:07:34 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2025 22:07:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> <1741028941.3536900.1759493068512@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8e6d391f-b7cf-46c2-9c89-eaebc24116c0@comcast.net> Except flex fans are extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden flex fan and BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them decades ago, and it was good for a 5-10deg reduction at idle but, damn was it loud (and it would blow clouds of dust out from under the car when stationary). Ditched it for a TC (but kept the shroud). Some SS flex fans are known for throwing a blade. bs On 10/4/2025 9:15 PM, Don Anglesey wrote: > Ditch the Texas cooler, British car specialists sell a nice > stainless-steel fan that doesn't flex into your radiator. > > Don > > Get Outlook for Android > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Richard > Antal via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM > *To:* Harold Manifold ; Michael Salter > > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery > I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent of cool > weather in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I > slipped a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I had driven > 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard in place and the temp gauge > never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the temp gauge while > dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any problem > until arriving home, I could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the > hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and below > the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, they did and thus I > inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't leak. > Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and > watch the temp gauge keenly.......rich > > > > > > > > On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael Salter > wrote: > > > I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that > are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to > the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the > backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass > through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling > ability. > > M > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Harold > Manifold > *Sent:* Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM > *To:* Richard Antal > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery > Rich, > > Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of > cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the > side that pushes air, in other words towards?the radiator. The extra > cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and > the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of > the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. > > The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan > has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature?was > very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should > keep up. What was the water temperature gauge saying? > > Harold > > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39?PM Richard Antal via Healeys > wrote: > > Listers, > ? ? My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks > ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various > speeds. It vanished two days later. > ? ? Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an > overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To > my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at > least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator > leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of > one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago > with an extra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems > for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the > engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the > underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: > all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after > filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan > nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for > your thoughts...... > Rich Antal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey100s at live.com Sun Oct 5 08:36:06 2025 From: healey100s at live.com (Don Anglesey) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2025 14:36:06 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: <8e6d391f-b7cf-46c2-9c89-eaebc24116c0@comcast.net> References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> <1741028941.3536900.1759493068512@mail.yahoo.com> <8e6d391f-b7cf-46c2-9c89-eaebc24116c0@comcast.net> Message-ID: Your worried about a little noise in an Austin Healy? Keep the cooler and continue to replace radiator cores. There are several better options. To each his own. Don Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2025 11:07:34 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery Except flex fans are extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden flex fan and BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them decades ago, and it was good for a 5-10deg reduction at idle but, damn was it loud (and it would blow clouds of dust out from under the car when stationary). Ditched it for a TC (but kept the shroud). Some SS flex fans are known for throwing a blade. bs On 10/4/2025 9:15 PM, Don Anglesey wrote: Ditch the Texas cooler, British car specialists sell a nice stainless-steel fan that doesn't flex into your radiator. Don Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Richard Antal via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM To: Harold Manifold ; Michael Salter Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent of cool weather in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I slipped a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard in place and the temp gauge never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the temp gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any problem until arriving home, I could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and below the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, they did and thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't leak. Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and watch the temp gauge keenly.......rich On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael Salter wrote: I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability. M ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Harold Manifold Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM To: Richard Antal Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery Rich, Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. What was the water temperature gauge saying? Harold On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39?PM Richard Antal via Healeys > wrote: Listers, My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It vanished two days later. Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts...... 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URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Oct 5 08:49:49 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2025 07:49:49 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> <1741028941.3536900.1759493068512@mail.yahoo.com> <8e6d391f-b7cf-46c2-9c89-eaebc24116c0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2893bb81-b527-4748-8f97-b761c06d178b@comcast.net> The noise was excessive in my Austin-Healey (can't speak to Austin-Healys). The fan all but drowned-out the engine at idle and I didn't like sitting in a cloud of dust (but it was the most-effective temp-lowering mod I've tried).? Note the fan BCS originally sold was different than what I think they sell now; it had massively curved, rectangular blades--seven of them--that went from a couple inches of pitch to near-flat as speed increased. I only replace cores once (except when a water pump shaft broke and sent a fan into the radiator). Bob On 10/5/2025 7:36 AM, Don Anglesey wrote: > Your worried about a little noise in an Austin Healy?? Keep the cooler > and continue to replace radiator cores.? There are several better > options.? To each his own. > Don > > Get Outlook for Android > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Bob > Spidell via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2025 11:07:34 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery > Except flex fans are extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden flex > fan and BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them decades ago, and it was > good for a 5-10deg reduction at idle but, damn was it loud (and it > would blow clouds of dust out from under the car when stationary). > Ditched it for a TC (but kept the shroud). Some SS flex fans are known > for throwing a blade. > > bs > > On 10/4/2025 9:15 PM, Don Anglesey wrote: >> Ditch the Texas cooler, British car specialists sell a nice >> stainless-steel fan that doesn't flex into your radiator. >> >> Don >> >> Get Outlook for Android >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Healeys >> on behalf of Richard Antal >> via Healeys >> *Sent:* Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM >> *To:* Harold Manifold >> ; Michael Salter >> >> *Cc:* Healeys >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery >> I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent of cool >> weather in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I >> slipped a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I had driven >> 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard in place and the temp >> gauge never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the temp gauge while >> dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any problem >> until arriving home, I could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the >> hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and >> below the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, they did and >> thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't >> leak. Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth >> and watch the temp gauge keenly.......rich >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael Salter >> wrote: >> >> >> I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that >> are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator >> to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from >> the backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass >> through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling >> ability. >> >> M >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Healeys >> on behalf of Harold Manifold >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM >> *To:* Richard Antal >> *Cc:* Healeys >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery >> Rich, >> >> Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of >> cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the >> side that pushes air, in other words towards?the radiator. The extra >> cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and >> the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of >> the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. >> >> The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the >> fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient >> temperature?was very high and you were going up a steep hill the >> colling system should keep up. What was the water temperature gauge >> saying? >> >> Harold >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healey100s at live.com Sun Oct 5 09:01:39 2025 From: healey100s at live.com (Don Anglesey) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2025 15:01:39 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: <2893bb81-b527-4748-8f97-b761c06d178b@comcast.net> References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> <1741028941.3536900.1759493068512@mail.yahoo.com> <8e6d391f-b7cf-46c2-9c89-eaebc24116c0@comcast.net> <2893bb81-b527-4748-8f97-b761c06d178b@comcast.net> Message-ID: Give me a break "Austin-Healey" must be a concours judge. The problem with the Texas cooler is it flexes towards the radiator unlike other fans that were developed specifically for "Austin-Healey's". With age they flex more. They have taken out several radiators over the years. I have no problem with a noisier fan designed to keep the heat down than use that cheap plastic fan. Like I said to each his own. Don From: Bob Spidell Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2025 8:50 AM To: Don Anglesey ; healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery The noise was excessive in my Austin-Healey (can't speak to Austin-Healys). The fan all but drowned-out the engine at idle and I didn't like sitting in a cloud of dust (but it was the most-effective temp-lowering mod I've tried). Note the fan BCS originally sold was different than what I think they sell now; it had massively curved, rectangular blades--seven of them--that went from a couple inches of pitch to near-flat as speed increased. I only replace cores once (except when a water pump shaft broke and sent a fan into the radiator). Bob On 10/5/2025 7:36 AM, Don Anglesey wrote: Your worried about a little noise in an Austin Healy? Keep the cooler and continue to replace radiator cores. There are several better options. To each his own. Don Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2025 11:07:34 PM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery Except flex fans are extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden flex fan and BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them decades ago, and it was good for a 5-10deg reduction at idle but, damn was it loud (and it would blow clouds of dust out from under the car when stationary). Ditched it for a TC (but kept the shroud). Some SS flex fans are known for throwing a blade. bs On 10/4/2025 9:15 PM, Don Anglesey wrote: Ditch the Texas cooler, British car specialists sell a nice stainless-steel fan that doesn't flex into your radiator. Don Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Richard Antal via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM To: Harold Manifold ; Michael Salter Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent of cool weather in NH, rather than change the thermostat to 180 from 160, I slipped a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back roads with the cardboard in place and the temp gauge never got above 170, and so I didn't watch the temp gauge while dashing down the interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any problem until arriving home, I could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph and below the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, they did and thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the radiator. I doesn't leak. Today, having removed the suspect cardboard, I'll venture forth and watch the temp gauge keenly.......rich On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael Salter wrote: I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability. M ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Harold Manifold Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM To: Richard Antal Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery Rich, Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. What was the water temperature gauge saying? Harold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Oct 5 10:10:05 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2025 09:10:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> <1741028941.3536900.1759493068512@mail.yahoo.com> <8e6d391f-b7cf-46c2-9c89-eaebc24116c0@comcast.net> <2893bb81-b527-4748-8f97-b761c06d178b@comcast.net> Message-ID: "... must be a concours judge" Nope (I presume that's supposed to be an insult). Just a Grammar(spelling) Nazi. On 10/5/2025 8:01 AM, Don Anglesey wrote: > > Give me a break ?Austin-Healey? must be a concours judge.? The problem > with the Texas cooler is it flexes towards the radiator unlike other > fans that were developed specifically for ?Austin-Healey?s?.? With age > they flex more.? They have taken out several radiators over the > years.? I have no problem with a noisier fan designed to keep the heat > down than use that cheap plastic fan.? Like I said to each his own. > > Don > > *From:*Bob Spidell > *Sent:* Sunday, October 5, 2025 8:50 AM > *To:* Don Anglesey ; healeys at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery > > The noise was excessive in my Austin-Healey (can't speak to > Austin-Healys). The fan all but drowned-out the engine at idle and I > didn't like sitting in a cloud of dust (but it was the most-effective > temp-lowering mod I've tried).? Note the fan BCS originally sold was > different than what I think they sell now; it had massively curved, > rectangular blades--seven of them--that went from a couple inches of > pitch to near-flat as speed increased. > > I only replace cores once (except when a water pump shaft broke and > sent a fan into the radiator). > > Bob > > On 10/5/2025 7:36 AM, Don Anglesey wrote: > > Your worried about a little noise in an Austin Healy?? Keep the > cooler and continue to replace radiator cores.? There are several > better options.? To each his own. > > Don > > Get Outlook for Android > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Healeys > on behalf of Bob Spidell > via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, October 4, 2025 11:07:34 PM > *To:* healeys at autox.team.net > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery > > Except flex fans are extremely noisy. I got a 7-blade SS Hayden > flex fan and BCS's own home-rolled shroud from them decades ago, > and it was good for a 5-10deg reduction at idle but, damn was it > loud (and it would blow clouds of dust out from under the car when > stationary). Ditched it for a TC (but kept the shroud). Some SS > flex fans are known for throwing a blade. > > bs > > On 10/4/2025 9:15 PM, Don Anglesey wrote: > > Ditch the Texas cooler, British car specialists sell a nice > stainless-steel fan that doesn't flex into your radiator. > > Don > > Get Outlook for Android > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Healeys > on behalf of Richard > Antal via Healeys > > *Sent:* Friday, October 3, 2025 6:04:28 AM > *To:* Harold Manifold > ; Michael Salter > > *Cc:* Healeys > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery > > I inadvertently omitted an important detail: with the advent > of cool weather in NH, rather than change the thermostat to > 180 from 160, I slipped a piece of cardboard in front of the > radiator. I had driven 200 miles in back roads with the > cardboard in place and the temp gauge never got above 170, and > so I didn't watch the temp gauge while dashing down the > interstate at 80 mph. I was unaware of any problem until > arriving home, I could smell radiator fluid. When I popped the > hood all was wet, hot, and steaming. Perhaps at speeds 60mph > and below the fan blades didn't flex enough but at 80 mph, > they did and thus I inadvertently caused the damage to the > radiator. I doesn't leak. Today, having removed the suspect > cardboard, I'll venture forth and watch the temp gauge > keenly.......rich > > On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 09:38:55 PM EDT, Michael > Salter > wrote: > > I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the > baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the > sides of the radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't > correctly fitted hot air from the backside of the radiator > will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator > again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability. > > M > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Healeys > on behalf of Harold > Manifold > *Sent:* Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM > *To:* Richard Antal > > *Cc:* Healeys > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery > > Rich, > > Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra > series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex > away from the side that pushes air, in other words towards?the > radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the > clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much > clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have > been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. > > The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds > the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient > temperature?was very high and you were going up a steep hill > the colling system should keep up. What was the water > temperature gauge saying? > > Harold > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: GrammarNazi.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 70097 bytes Desc: not available URL: From s.hutchings at rogers.com Thu Oct 9 10:44:01 2025 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 12:44:01 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Lifter (cam followers) options References: <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883.ref@rogers.com> Message-ID: <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883@rogers.com> When I had my cam ground during the restoration, the machine shop recommended that I have the original lifters resurfaced and hardened, rather than buy replacements. This is going back a few years and there are now more options available. Some of those lifters pitted after 5, or 6 thousand miles, and some looked fine. I decided that the ones that pitted were not hardened properly?an assumption I know! I corresponded with Mike Salter who was having lifter problems of his own, and in the end I replaced the whole set with the modified ones from AH spares because I no longer trusted the re-hardened set- and also removed the inner valve springs. After a few hundred miles the new lifters looked OK, but I?m about to check them again, this time after a couple of thousand miles. I?ve been doing a lot of reading about bucket lifters, tubular push rods, etc. and it seems that some people are saying the current replacement lifters are wearing prematurely because they are not domed properly and aren?t rotating. Just to add to the confusion, when I removed the set that were pitting, I could see by the pattern on the wear surface that indeed some didn?t seem to be rotating, but had no visible wear, whereas the worn ones seemed to be rotating. What I?m throwing out to the list is - I wonder if anyone has experience with the tubular pushrod/ bucket lifter combination?or any other alternatives. I don?t know what I?m going to find after a couple of thousand mikes, but I?d like to be ready with a strategy if there?s a problem. And Mike, if you?re monitoring the list, what kind of lifters did you use in the end? Thanks, Stephen, BJ8 From robertsonpdt at comcast.net Thu Oct 9 11:14:29 2025 From: robertsonpdt at comcast.net (Karl Robertson) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 13:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Healeys] Lifter (cam followers) options In-Reply-To: <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883@rogers.com> References: <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883.ref@rogers.com> <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883@rogers.com> Message-ID: <34859430.94409.1760030069615@connect.xfinity.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From s.hutchings at rogers.com Thu Oct 9 11:24:51 2025 From: s.hutchings at rogers.com (Stephen Hutchings) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 13:24:51 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Lifter (cam followers) options In-Reply-To: <34859430.94409.1760030069615@connect.xfinity.com> References: <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883.ref@rogers.com> <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883@rogers.com> <34859430.94409.1760030069615@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: <1BDE8DE2-881C-4381-9F5C-677CF4AEA0A6@rogers.com> Yes, I guess I should have mentioned that all along I?ve been using oil with ZDDP, and specifically Valvoline VR1 since the lifter replacement. > On Oct 9, 2025, at 1:14?PM, Karl Robertson wrote: > > Hello guys! > First let me say that I am not a Healey guy, but don't count me out altogether! > All my cars have Flat Tappet / Bucket engines, a Alfa Romeo Montreal, a Ferrari 308 and also a Jaguar XK120. The first 2 have V8 engines, and the Jaguar has a straight 6. But all of them share one thing in common. All have Lifters with Flat Tops. > I have been using Valvoline VR1 with Zinc in it and even using a Zinc Additive (ZDDP). This is one ingredient missing from a lot of oils available today and an absolute must for Flat Tappet engines. > Sorry to come in here late to the party, but I'm just throwing it out there to consider if you haven't already done so. Good luck! > > Karl Robertson > Michigan, USA. >> On 10/09/2025 12:44 PM EDT Stephen Hutchings > wrote: >> >> >> When I had my cam ground during the restoration, the machine shop recommended that I have the original lifters resurfaced and hardened, rather than buy replacements. >> This is going back a few years and there are now more options available. Some of those lifters pitted after 5, or 6 thousand miles, and some looked fine. >> I decided that the ones that pitted were not hardened properly?an assumption I know! >> I corresponded with Mike Salter who was having lifter problems of his own, and in the end I replaced the whole set with the modified ones from AH spares because I no longer trusted the re-hardened set- and also removed the inner valve springs. >> >> After a few hundred miles the new lifters looked OK, but I?m about to check them again, this time after a couple of thousand miles. >> I?ve been doing a lot of reading about bucket lifters, tubular push rods, etc. and it seems that some people are saying the current replacement lifters are wearing prematurely because they are not domed properly and aren?t rotating. >> Just to add to the confusion, when I removed the set that were pitting, I could see by the pattern on the wear surface that indeed some didn?t seem to be rotating, but had no visible wear, whereas the worn ones seemed to be rotating. >> What I?m throwing out to the list is - I wonder if anyone has experience with the tubular pushrod/ bucket lifter combination?or any other alternatives. >> I don?t know what I?m going to find after a couple of thousand mikes, but I?d like to be ready with a strategy if there?s a problem. >> And Mike, if you?re monitoring the list, what kind of lifters did you use in the end? >> >> Thanks, >> Stephen, BJ8 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/robertsonpdt at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phoenix722 at comcast.net Thu Oct 9 12:01:58 2025 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 11:01:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Lifter (cam followers) options In-Reply-To: <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883@rogers.com> References: <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883.ref@rogers.com> <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883@rogers.com> Message-ID: <77d6cfa8-5151-4e69-a2ff-5840274c6442@comcast.net> I had a college friend who hardened the lifters and ended up wearing down the cam.? This was a long time ago, so maybe things are different now.? Just a thought. Mike On 10/9/25 9:44 AM, Stephen Hutchings wrote: > When I had my cam ground during the restoration, the machine shop recommended that I have the original lifters resurfaced and hardened, rather than buy replacements. > This is going back a few years and there are now more options available. Some of those lifters pitted after 5, or 6 thousand miles, and some looked fine. > I decided that the ones that pitted were not hardened properly?an assumption I know! > I corresponded with Mike Salter who was having lifter problems of his own, and in the end I replaced the whole set with the modified ones from AH spares because I no longer trusted the re-hardened set- and also removed the inner valve springs. > > After a few hundred miles the new lifters looked OK, but I?m about to check them again, this time after a couple of thousand miles. > I?ve been doing a lot of reading about bucket lifters, tubular push rods, etc. and it seems that some people are saying the current replacement lifters are wearing prematurely because they are not domed properly and aren?t rotating. > Just to add to the confusion, when I removed the set that were pitting, I could see by the pattern on the wear surface that indeed some didn?t seem to be rotating, but had no visible wear, whereas the worn ones seemed to be rotating. > What I?m throwing out to the list is - I wonder if anyone has experience with the tubular pushrod/ bucket lifter combination?or any other alternatives. > I don?t know what I?m going to find after a couple of thousand mikes, but I?d like to be ready with a strategy if there?s a problem. > And Mike, if you?re monitoring the list, what kind of lifters did you use in the end? > > Thanks, > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside > of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the > radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability. > > M > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Harold > Manifold > *Sent:* Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM > *To:* Richard Antal > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery > > Rich, > > Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of > cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side > that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling > tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. > There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may > have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. > > The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has > little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very > high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. > What was the water temperature gauge saying? > > Harold > > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39?PM Richard Antal via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Listers, > My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I > noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It > vanished two days later. > Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating > radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw > that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had > confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular > impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator > was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had > given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which > prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the > underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all > bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the > radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. > I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts...... > Rich Antal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Oct 9 16:49:23 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 15:49:23 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Lifter (cam followers) options In-Reply-To: <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883@rogers.com> References: <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883.ref@rogers.com> <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883@rogers.com> Message-ID: What was your cam break-in process? Did you use break-in oil? For the last rebuild of my BJ8 engine I used a cam and lifters from Denis Welch; they will only sell the cam and lifters as a package. The lifters are 'modified' and the cam is gun-drilled for extra lubrication to the lobe-lifter interface. Sounded good to me, but I haven't pulled any lifters to check. They also sell bucket lifters with tubular push rods. Note you can have too much ZDDP: https://www.speedwaymotors.com/the-toolbox/zinc-additive-for-oil-how-much-zddp-is-enough/32478 Bob On 10/9/2025 9:44 AM, Stephen Hutchings wrote: > When I had my cam ground during the restoration, the machine shop recommended that I have the original lifters resurfaced and hardened, rather than buy replacements. > This is going back a few years and there are now more options available. Some of those lifters pitted after 5, or 6 thousand miles, and some looked fine. > I decided that the ones that pitted were not hardened properly?an assumption I know! > I corresponded with Mike Salter who was having lifter problems of his own, and in the end I replaced the whole set with the modified ones from AH spares because I no longer trusted the re-hardened set- and also removed the inner valve springs. > > After a few hundred miles the new lifters looked OK, but I?m about to check them again, this time after a couple of thousand miles. > I?ve been doing a lot of reading about bucket lifters, tubular push rods, etc. and it seems that some people are saying the current replacement lifters are wearing prematurely because they are not domed properly and aren?t rotating. > Just to add to the confusion, when I removed the set that were pitting, I could see by the pattern on the wear surface that indeed some didn?t seem to be rotating, but had no visible wear, whereas the worn ones seemed to be rotating. > What I?m throwing out to the list is - I wonder if anyone has experience with the tubular pushrod/ bucket lifter combination?or any other alternatives. > I don?t know what I?m going to find after a couple of thousand mikes, but I?d like to be ready with a strategy if there?s a problem. > And Mike, if you?re monitoring the list, what kind of lifters did you use in the end? > > Thanks, > Stephen, BJ8 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Oct 9 17:06:33 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 16:06:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Lifter (cam followers) options In-Reply-To: <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883@rogers.com> References: <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883.ref@rogers.com> <9969BE90-48E9-48EE-A741-6F5774B8B883@rogers.com> Message-ID: <135f7d01-4878-49b0-8d41-92cb87be9e16@comcast.net> Here's the link for the DWM bucket lifters and push rods: https://www.bighealey.co.uk/austin-healey/engines/3000-top-end?page=3 I also had my engine broken-in on a static rig by the shop that rebuilt it. Bob On 10/9/2025 9:44 AM, Stephen Hutchings wrote: > When I had my cam ground during the restoration, the machine shop recommended that I hav > e the original lifters resurfaced and hardened, rather than buy replacements. > This is going back a few years and there are now more options available. Some of those lifters pitted after 5, or 6 thousand miles, and some looked fine. > I decided that the ones that pitted were not hardened properly?an assumption I know! > I corresponded with Mike Salter who was having lifter problems of his own, and in the end I replaced the whole set with the modified ones from AH spares because I no longer trusted the re-hardened set- and also removed the inner valve springs. > > After a few hundred miles the new lifters looked OK, but I?m about to check them again, this time after a couple of thousand miles. > I?ve been doing a lot of reading about bucket lifters, tubular push rods, etc. and it seems that some people are saying the current replacement lifters are wearing prematurely because they are not domed properly and aren?t rotating. > Just to add to the confusion, when I removed the set that were pitting, I could see by the pattern on the wear surface that indeed some didn?t seem to be rotating, but had no visible wear, whereas the worn ones seemed to be rotating. > What I?m throwing out to the list is - I wonder if anyone has experience with the tubular pushrod/ bucket lifter combination?or any other alternatives. > I don?t know what I?m going to find after a couple of thousand mikes, but I?d like to be ready with a strategy if there?s a problem. > And Mike, if you?re monitoring the list, what kind of lifters did you use in the end? > > Thanks, > Stephen, BJ8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > From rantal243 at yahoo.com Fri Oct 10 03:26:05 2025 From: rantal243 at yahoo.com (Richard Antal) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 09:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1251678996.1530635.1760088365746@mail.yahoo.com> Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. Photograph of what exactly?......r On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs wrote: Do you have photo of the proper installation?Thanks Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54?AM Michael Salter wrote: I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability. M From: Healeys on behalf of Harold Manifold Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM To: Richard Antal Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery?Rich, Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that pushes air, in other words towards?the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature?was very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. What was the water temperature gauge saying? Harold On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39?PM Richard Antal via Healeys wrote: Listers,? ? My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It vanished two days later.? ? Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......Rich Antal_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 03:32:35 2025 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 10:32:35 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: <1251678996.1530635.1760088365746@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> <1251678996.1530635.1760088365746@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said they might be wrong. My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric push fan. Metal fan too Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 10:26?AM Richard Antal wrote: > Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. Photograph of what > exactly?......r > > On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs < > eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Do you have photo of the proper installation? > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54?AM Michael Salter > wrote: > > I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, > or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the > grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside > of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the > radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability. > > M > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Harold > Manifold > *Sent:* Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM > *To:* Richard Antal > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery > > Rich, > > Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of > cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side > that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling > tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. > There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may > have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. > > The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has > little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very > high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. > What was the water temperature gauge saying? > > Harold > > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39?PM Richard Antal via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Listers, > My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I > noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It > vanished two days later. > Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating > radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw > that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had > confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular > impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator > was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had > given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which > prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the > underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all > bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the > radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. > I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts...... > Rich Antal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rantal243 at yahoo.com Fri Oct 10 04:07:10 2025 From: rantal243 at yahoo.com (Richard Antal) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 10:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> <1251678996.1530635.1760088365746@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1422447766.1526507.1760090830218@mail.yahoo.com> I must have misspoken. The air deflectors in front of the radiator are exactly as they should be and have been thus installed for the last 30 years at least. I drove 80 miles yesterday and the temp never got above 170 but then, the weather has changed and it's much cooler than when the radiator overheated. I'm convinced that in some way, that cardboard piece I had placed in front of the radiator was complicit in causing the overheating even though I had earlier driven 200 miles with it in place without it overheating........rich On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 05:32:49 AM EDT, i erbs wrote: The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said they might be wrong. My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric push fan. Metal fan too Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 10:26?AM Richard Antal wrote: Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. Photograph of what exactly?......r On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs wrote: Do you have photo of the proper installation?Thanks Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54?AM Michael Salter wrote: I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability. M From: Healeys on behalf of Harold Manifold Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM To: Richard Antal Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery?Rich, Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that pushes air, in other words towards?the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature?was very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. What was the water temperature gauge saying? Harold On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39?PM Richard Antal via Healeys wrote: Listers,? ? My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It vanished two days later.? ? Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts......Rich Antal_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Oct 10 04:38:45 2025 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 11:38:45 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: <1422447766.1526507.1760090830218@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> <1251678996.1530635.1760088365746@mail.yahoo.com> <1422447766.1526507.1760090830218@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the clarification Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 11:07?AM Richard Antal wrote: > I must have misspoken. The air deflectors in front of the radiator are > exactly as they should be and have been thus installed for the last 30 > years at least. I drove 80 miles yesterday and the temp never got above 170 > but then, the weather has changed and it's much cooler than when the > radiator overheated. I'm convinced that in some way, that cardboard piece I > had placed in front of the radiator was complicit in causing the > overheating even though I had earlier driven 200 miles with it in place > without it overheating........rich > > On Friday, October 10, 2025 at 05:32:49 AM EDT, i erbs < > eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said they might be wrong. > My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric push fan. Metal > fan too > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 10:26?AM Richard Antal wrote: > > Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. Photograph of what > exactly?......r > > On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs < > eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Do you have photo of the proper installation? > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54?AM Michael Salter > wrote: > > I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, > or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the > grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside > of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the > radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability. > > M > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Harold > Manifold > *Sent:* Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM > *To:* Richard Antal > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery > > Rich, > > Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of > cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side > that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling > tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. > There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may > have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. > > The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has > little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very > high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. > What was the water temperature gauge saying? > > Harold > > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39?PM Richard Antal via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Listers, > My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I > noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It > vanished two days later. > Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating > radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw > that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had > confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular > impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator > was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had > given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which > prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the > underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all > bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the > radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. > I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts...... > Rich Antal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 10 14:15:26 2025 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 17:15:26 -0300 Subject: [Healeys] Yet another mystery In-Reply-To: References: <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1354895288.3357052.1759437176802@mail.yahoo.com> <1251678996.1530635.1760088365746@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008e01dc3a22$a0529ce0$e0f7d6a0$@sbcglobal.net> I had my stock radiator changed to a 4-row core. The top and bottom is large enough for that. The side rails need to be modified to accept the extra width but that is not hard to do. The temperature is 190 to 200 F. It will get hotter if stopped for a long period of time. John ?62 BT7 From: Healeys On Behalf Of i erbs Sent: Friday, October 10, 2025 6:33 AM To: Richard Antal Cc: Healeys ; Michael Salter Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery The proper placement of the air deflectors. You said they might be wrong. My car runs hot too. New radiator, block flush. Electric push fan. Metal fan too Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 10:26?AM Richard Antal > wrote: Sorry Ira. I don't understand your question. Photograph of what exactly?......r On Thursday, October 9, 2025 at 04:55:21 PM EDT, i erbs > wrote: Do you have photo of the proper installation? Thanks Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Fri, Oct 3, 2025, 2:54?AM Michael Salter > wrote: I would also suggest that you take a careful look at the baffles that are, or should be, installed forward from the sides of the radiator to the grille. If these baffles aren't correctly fitted hot air from the backside of the radiator will swirl around to the front and pass through the radiator again and thus seriously deminish its cooling ability. M _____ From: Healeys > on behalf of Harold Manifold > Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:45:19 PM To: Richard Antal > Cc: Healeys > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Yet another mystery Rich, Your comments "high speed. run of twenty miles" and "extra series of cooling tubes" may offer some clues. Fan blades flex away from the side that pushes air, in other words towards the radiator. The extra cooling tubes may have reduced the clearance between the radiator and the fan. There isn't much clearance to begin with. The combination of the two may have been enough for the fan to hit the radiator. The other issue is what caused the overheating. At high speeds the fan has little to no effect on cooling. Unless the ambient temperature was very high and you were going up a steep hill the colling system should keep up. What was the water temperature gauge saying? Harold On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 1:39?PM Richard Antal via Healeys > wrote: Listers, My BJ8 seems beleaguered with misfortune. A couple of weeks ago I noted the oil pressure gauge wildly oscillating at various speeds. It vanished two days later. Yesterday a high speed. run of twenty miles produce an overheating radiator with fluid spewing from the overflow tube. To my horror, I saw that the Texas cooler fan which I'd had for at least 25 years had confronted the engine side of the radiator leaving a distinct circular impression and abrasion to the tip of one of the fan blades. That radiator was rebuilt two years ago with an extra series of cooling tubes and had given no problems for at least 5000 miles. I assumed the harness which prevents the engine from sliding forward was faulty. Inspection of the underside did not support that conclusion--it looked fine to me: all bushings and nuts were in place. I ran the engine after filling the radiator and saw no evidence of recurrence of the fan nudging the radiator. I'm perplexed what to do next. Thanks for your thoughts...... Rich Antal _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/eyera3000 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com Sat Oct 11 09:31:31 2025 From: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com (simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 16:31:31 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. Message-ID: <003201dc3ac4$21efffd0$65cfff70$@alexarevel.plus.com> Forgive another stupid question but it's sensible to be sure.... Am I right in assuming(!) that, if one fits an expansion tank, the standard cap is moved from the radiator to the expansion tank and is replaced by a blanking(?) cap ie one which has no spring, no means of relief etcetc? Seem logical to me but logic has let me down before. Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Sat Oct 11 11:03:11 2025 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 13:03:11 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. In-Reply-To: <003201dc3ac4$21efffd0$65cfff70$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <003201dc3ac4$21efffd0$65cfff70$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: Hey Simon, No, the radiator cap stays on the radiator. Increased pressure in the radiator raises the boiling point. If the radiator gets hot enough for the pressure to release the cab then the overflow will go into the wall bottle. Once it cools down it's supposed to get pulled back into the radiator. Of course, this is a British car so theory and reality May differ. But you definitely want to leave a lady in the cop on the radiator. Jim Ryan ???? On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 11:45?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Forgive another stupid question but it?s sensible to be sure???. > > Am I right in assuming(!) that, if one fits an expansion tank, the > standard cap is moved from the radiator to the expansion tank and is > replaced by a blanking(?) cap ie one which has no spring, no means of > relief etcetc? Seem logical to me but logic has let me down before. > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sbyers at ec.rr.com Sat Oct 11 11:33:03 2025 From: sbyers at ec.rr.com (sbyers at ec.rr.com) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 13:33:03 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. In-Reply-To: <003201dc3ac4$21efffd0$65cfff70$@alexarevel.plus.com> References: <003201dc3ac4$21efffd0$65cfff70$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <05fe01dc3ad5$19beec20$4d3cc460$@ec.rr.com> Simon, I have an expansion tank in my BJ8 using the original metal tank from an MG Midget. I also have the stock 7 psi cap on both the radiator and the overflow tank and a clear "overflow" hose on the radiator neck to the tank. The tank captures any overflow from the radiator and I can see the system operate with the clear tubing. When hot, the flow is out to the tank and back into the radiator as it cools. Excess coolant in the overflow tank can flow out to the ground through the tank overflow connection. Steve Byers BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large From: Healeys On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2025 11:32 AM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. Forgive another stupid question but it's sensible to be sure.... Am I right in assuming(!) that, if one fits an expansion tank, the standard cap is moved from the radiator to the expansion tank and is replaced by a blanking(?) cap ie one which has no spring, no means of relief etcetc? Seem logical to me but logic has let me down before. Simon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Sat Oct 11 12:48:58 2025 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:48:58 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. In-Reply-To: <05fe01dc3ad5$19beec20$4d3cc460$@ec.rr.com> References: <003201dc3ac4$21efffd0$65cfff70$@alexarevel.plus.com> <05fe01dc3ad5$19beec20$4d3cc460$@ec.rr.com> Message-ID: Hi Simon, The radiator cap needs to be one designed for a closed coolant recovery system. While it will look similar to a standard cap, it will have two rubber gaskets?one at the top and one at the bottom of the radiator neck. When the cooling system pressure exceeds the cap's rated pressure (7 psi), coolant will flow through the overflow tube to the recovery tank. As the coolant cools, it will then be drawn back into the radiator. There are two general types of closed systems: an expansion tank and a recovery tank. Expansion tanks are pressurized and are not the best option for a Healey. For a recovery tank, the hose goes to the bottom of the tank, and the tank itself operates at atmospheric pressure. The recovery tank from a TR6 is a good fit for the 4-inch round hole in the support that extends from the scuttle to the frame. Harold On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 11:05?AM sbyers--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Simon, I have an expansion tank in my BJ8 using the original metal tank > from an MG Midget. I also have the stock 7 psi cap on both the radiator > and the overflow tank and a clear ?overflow? hose on the radiator neck to > the tank. The tank captures any overflow from the radiator and I can see > the system operate with the clear tubing. When hot, the flow is out to > the tank and back into the radiator as it cools. Excess coolant in the > overflow tank can flow out to the ground through the tank overflow > connection. > > > > Steve Byers > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Simon > Lachlan via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2025 11:32 AM > *To:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. > > > > Forgive another stupid question but it?s sensible to be sure???. > > Am I right in assuming(!) that, if one fits an expansion tank, the > standard cap is moved from the radiator to the expansion tank and is > replaced by a blanking(?) cap ie one which has no spring, no means of > relief etcetc? Seem logical to me but logic has let me down before. > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sat Oct 11 13:02:00 2025 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 15:02:00 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. In-Reply-To: <05fe01dc3ad5$19beec20$4d3cc460$@ec.rr.com> References: <003201dc3ac4$21efffd0$65cfff70$@alexarevel.plus.com> <05fe01dc3ad5$19beec20$4d3cc460$@ec.rr.com> Message-ID: By running the hose from the radiator neck to the *bottom* of the "expansion" tank you will have created a coolant recovery system--the slight vacuum created in the radiator by the engine's cooling down pulls open and unseals the pressure plate on the radiator cap, thus "recovering" the overflow back into the radiator. Probable result: no more coolant on the garage floor and no need to top things off. Best--Michael Oritt On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 2:24?PM sbyers--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Simon, I have an expansion tank in my BJ8 using the original metal tank > from an MG Midget. I also have the stock 7 psi cap on both the radiator > and the overflow tank and a clear ?overflow? hose on the radiator neck to > the tank. The tank captures any overflow from the radiator and I can see > the system operate with the clear tubing. When hot, the flow is out to > the tank and back into the radiator as it cools. Excess coolant in the > overflow tank can flow out to the ground through the tank overflow > connection. > > > > Steve Byers > > BJ8 Registry > > AHCA Delegate at Large > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Simon > Lachlan via Healeys > *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2025 11:32 AM > *To:* 'Healeys' > *Subject:* [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. > > > > Forgive another stupid question but it?s sensible to be sure???. > > Am I right in assuming(!) that, if one fits an expansion tank, the > standard cap is moved from the radiator to the expansion tank and is > replaced by a blanking(?) cap ie one which has no spring, no means of > relief etcetc? Seem logical to me but logic has let me down before. > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 11 18:27:07 2025 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 21:27:07 -0300 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. In-Reply-To: References: <003201dc3ac4$21efffd0$65cfff70$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <006f01dc3b0e$f3f9af40$dbed0dc0$@sbcglobal.net> This respones is correct. From: Healeys On Behalf Of Jim Ryan Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2025 2:03 PM To: Simon Lachlan Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. Hey Simon, No, the radiator cap stays on the radiator. Increased pressure in the radiator raises the boiling point. If the radiator gets hot enough for the pressure to release the cab then the overflow will go into the wall bottle. Once it cools down it's supposed to get pulled back into the radiator. Of course, this is a British car so theory and reality May differ. But you definitely want to leave a lady in the cop on the radiator. Jim Ryan ???? On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 11:45?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: Forgive another stupid question but it?s sensible to be sure???. Am I right in assuming(!) that, if one fits an expansion tank, the standard cap is moved from the radiator to the expansion tank and is replaced by a blanking(?) cap ie one which has no spring, no means of relief etcetc? Seem logical to me but logic has let me down before. Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 11 18:27:07 2025 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 21:27:07 -0300 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. In-Reply-To: References: <003201dc3ac4$21efffd0$65cfff70$@alexarevel.plus.com> <05fe01dc3ad5$19beec20$4d3cc460$@ec.rr.com> Message-ID: <007401dc3b0e$f561f1d0$e025d570$@sbcglobal.net> All you really need to do is to not top off the radiator coolant. Keep the coolant level 1? to 1-1/2? or possible a little more below the point where the radiator cap seals the top of the radiator chamber will allow enough space for the coolant to expand and contract without sending coolant through the overflow tube. Best - John From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Oritt via Healeys Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2025 4:02 PM To: sbyers at ec.rr.com Cc: Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. By running the hose from the radiator neck to the bottom of the "expansion" tank you will have created a coolant recovery system--the slight vacuum created in the radiator by the engine's cooling down pulls open and unseals the pressure plate on the radiator cap, thus "recovering" the overflow back into the radiator. Probable result: no more coolant on the garage floor and no need to top things off. Best--Michael Oritt On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 2:24?PM sbyers--- via Healeys > wrote: Simon, I have an expansion tank in my BJ8 using the original metal tank from an MG Midget. I also have the stock 7 psi cap on both the radiator and the overflow tank and a clear ?overflow? hose on the radiator neck to the tank. The tank captures any overflow from the radiator and I can see the system operate with the clear tubing. When hot, the flow is out to the tank and back into the radiator as it cools. Excess coolant in the overflow tank can flow out to the ground through the tank overflow connection. Steve Byers BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2025 11:32 AM To: 'Healeys' > Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. Forgive another stupid question but it?s sensible to be sure???. Am I right in assuming(!) that, if one fits an expansion tank, the standard cap is moved from the radiator to the expansion tank and is replaced by a blanking(?) cap ie one which has no spring, no means of relief etcetc? Seem logical to me but logic has let me down before. Simon _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From manifold at telus.net Sat Oct 11 18:50:39 2025 From: manifold at telus.net (Harold Manifold) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 17:50:39 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. In-Reply-To: <006f01dc3b0e$f3f9af40$dbed0dc0$@sbcglobal.net> References: <003201dc3ac4$21efffd0$65cfff70$@alexarevel.plus.com> <006f01dc3b0e$f3f9af40$dbed0dc0$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: The issue with installing an expansion tank on an Austin Healey is the difficulty in finding a location under the hood. For an expansion tank to work properly the neck and cap must be at the highest point in the cooling system so air can rise to the highest point. A coolant recovery tank, on the other hand, can be installed at any elevation which is why I suggested they are more suitable for our Healeys See the following from Canton who are experts in the field. Expansion Tank Set Up: An expansion tank is part of the pressurized section of the coolant system. An expansion tank can easily be recognized by the neck and cap used. Since the tank is under pressure it will require a pressure rated cap and neck. The pressure relief in the expansion tank should be the highest point in your coolant system. Harold On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 5:35?PM JSARCH via Healeys wrote: > This respones is correct. > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Jim Ryan > *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2025 2:03 PM > *To:* Simon Lachlan > *Cc:* Healeys > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. > > > > Hey Simon, > > > > No, the radiator cap stays on the radiator. Increased pressure in the > radiator raises the boiling point. If the radiator gets hot enough for the > pressure to release the cab then the overflow will go into the wall bottle. > Once it cools down it's supposed to get pulled back into the radiator. Of > course, this is a British car so theory and reality May differ. But you > definitely want to leave a lady in the cop on the radiator. > > > > > > > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > > > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 11:45?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Forgive another stupid question but it?s sensible to be sure???. > > Am I right in assuming(!) that, if one fits an expansion tank, the > standard cap is moved from the radiator to the expansion tank and is > replaced by a blanking(?) cap ie one which has no spring, no means of > relief etcetc? Seem logical to me but logic has let me down before. > > Simon > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/manifold at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rchaskell at earthlink.net Sat Oct 11 21:20:05 2025 From: rchaskell at earthlink.net (Bob Haskell) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 23:20:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. In-Reply-To: References: <003201dc3ac4$21efffd0$65cfff70$@alexarevel.plus.com> Message-ID: <53348b5e-9a8e-4028-839a-e5617c54ff8a@earthlink.net> FWIW, our '80 MGB has the cap on the expansion tank.? No cap on the radiator.? Ought to work the same as long as the hose between the two can withstand the coolant temperature/pressure. There's a fitting on top of the thermostat housing for topping off the cooling system. Bob Haskell Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar On 10/11/25 13:03, Jim Ryan wrote: > Hey Simon, > > No, the radiator cap stays on the radiator. Increased pressure in the > radiator raises the boiling point. If the radiator gets hot enough for > the pressure to release the cab then the overflow will go into the > wall bottle. Once it cools down it's supposed to get pulled back into > the radiator. Of course, this is a British car so theory and reality > May differ. But you definitely want to leave a lady in the cop on the > radiator. > > > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 11:45?AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys > wrote: > > Forgive another stupid question but it?s sensible to be sure???. > > Am I right in assuming(!) that, if one fits an expansion tank, the > standard cap is moved from the radiator to the expansion tank and > is replaced by a blanking(?) cap ie one which has no spring, no > means of relief etcetc? Seem logical to me but logichas let me > down before. > > Simon > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rchaskell at earthlink.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rantal243 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 13 06:22:56 2025 From: rantal243 at yahoo.com (Richard Antal) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 12:22:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] water pump References: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> Healeyphiles,? ? I discover now that the water pump of my Bj8 has, after 145k miles, developed a leak. Other than removing fan and radiator, does the grill have to be removed to access the pump for removal. I pray all can be done with the engine in the car. Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions.......rich antal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Mon Oct 13 06:46:48 2025 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 08:46:48 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's been a long time since I did that, but I do know the engine never came out of the car. As an aside, just for curiosity, I submitted this to Gemini and got this response, I"ll put the link here just to see how accurate it was. https://gemini.google.com/app/8866208a0bb33cd7?cros_source=c&cros_activation=true Go easy on me folks, I know this is a risky post... On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 8:28?AM Richard Antal via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Healeyphiles, > I discover now that the water pump of my Bj8 has, after 145k miles, > developed a leak. Other than removing fan and radiator, does the grill have > to be removed to access the pump for removal. I pray all can be done with > the engine in the car. Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions.......rich > antal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.salter at gmail.com Mon Oct 13 07:10:55 2025 From: michael.salter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 13:10:55 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Richard, the radiator has to be removed, which isn't that difficult, to change the pump. I find it easier to remove the fan before removing the rad but that isn't essential. A couple of blog posts which may be of interest. M https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-bj7-8-reproduction-water-pumps/ https://precisionsportscar.com/austin-healey-bj8-water-pump-rebuild/ ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Richard Antal via Healeys Sent: Monday, October 13, 2025 8:22:56 AM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] water pump Healeyphiles, I discover now that the water pump of my Bj8 has, after 145k miles, developed a leak. Other than removing fan and radiator, does the grill have to be removed to access the pump for removal. I pray all can be done with the engine in the car. Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions.......rich antal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmarkovich at aol.com Mon Oct 13 07:37:27 2025 From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 13:37:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <491428124.2340618.1760362647738@mail.yahoo.com> No the grill stays in place and even the radiator can as well. Instead, undo the mounting?bolts on ONE SIDE of the radiator and pull that side back enough to squeeze your hands in and access the fan bolts first and then the pump. I?ve found pulling off the fan before removing the pump is far easier (and probably essential). Done this many times; slightly?easier on a Six than a Four cylinder Healey, but not awful in either case. BTW, this is a good time to put in?an uprated pump rather than a Chinese special ? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, October 13, 2025, 8:37 AM, Richard Antal via Healeys wrote: Healeyphiles,? ? I discover now that the water pump of my Bj8 has, after 145k miles, developed a leak. Other than removing fan and radiator, does the grill have to be removed to access the pump for removal. I pray all can be done with the engine in the car. Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions.......rich antal_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmarkovich at aol.com Mon Oct 13 08:03:07 2025 From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <491428124.2340618.1760362647738@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> <491428124.2340618.1760362647738@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <638891666.2346429.1760364187471@mail.yahoo.com> Many to say ?push that side of the radiator forward? to make room for your hands and a socket or other wrench.? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, October 13, 2025, 9:37 AM, Robert Markovich wrote: No the grill stays in place and even the radiator can as well. Instead, undo the mounting?bolts on ONE SIDE of the radiator and pull that side back enough to squeeze your hands in and access the fan bolts first and then the pump. I?ve found pulling off the fan before removing the pump is far easier (and probably essential). Done this many times; slightly?easier on a Six than a Four cylinder Healey, but not awful in either case. BTW, this is a good time to put in?an uprated pump rather than a Chinese special ? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, October 13, 2025, 8:37 AM, Richard Antal via Healeys wrote: Healeyphiles,? ? I discover now that the water pump of my Bj8 has, after 145k miles, developed a leak. Other than removing fan and radiator, does the grill have to be removed to access the pump for removal. I pray all can be done with the engine in the car. Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions.......rich antal_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.salter at gmail.com Mon Oct 13 09:03:17 2025 From: michael.salter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:03:17 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <638891666.2346429.1760364187471@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> <491428124.2340618.1760362647738@mail.yahoo.com> <638891666.2346429.1760364187471@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Just a comment. Pushing the rad forward either at the top or at 1 side is just fine. That's how the "flat rate" guys used to do it however, doing so requires that the air deflectors at the sides of the radiator must be bent inward to provide clearance. Of course no one ever used to bend the deflectors back into place which often resulted in the customer returned with hot running/ overheating issues as soon as the hot weather returned. Always good for another 2 chargable hours!!! M ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Robert Markovich via Healeys Sent: Monday, October 13, 2025 10:03:07 AM To: Richard Antal ; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pump Many to say ?push that side of the radiator forward? to make room for your hands and a socket or other wrench. Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, October 13, 2025, 9:37 AM, Robert Markovich wrote: No the grill stays in place and even the radiator can as well. Instead, undo the mounting bolts on ONE SIDE of the radiator and pull that side back enough to squeeze your hands in and access the fan bolts first and then the pump. I?ve found pulling off the fan before removing the pump is far easier (and probably essential). Done this many times; slightly easier on a Six than a Four cylinder Healey, but not awful in either case. BTW, this is a good time to put in an uprated pump rather than a Chinese special ? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, October 13, 2025, 8:37 AM, Richard Antal via Healeys wrote: Healeyphiles, I discover now that the water pump of my Bj8 has, after 145k miles, developed a leak. Other than removing fan and radiator, does the grill have to be removed to access the pump for removal. I pray all can be done with the engine in the car. Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions.......rich antal _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Mon Oct 13 09:17:14 2025 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 08:17:14 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <491428124.2340618.1760362647738@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> <491428124.2340618.1760362647738@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I've had three AH 100, my original cast iron Bugeye, a six-cylinder AH and several MG water pumps restored by Wade Jenezon at Flying Dtchcman Water Pumps in Oregon. First rate, old school shop. Expect to pay around $175.00. On Mon, Oct 13, 2025, 7:42?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > No the grill stays in place and even the radiator can as well. Instead, > undo the mounting bolts on ONE SIDE of the radiator and pull that side back > enough to squeeze your hands in and access the fan bolts first and then the > pump. I?ve found pulling off the fan before removing the pump is far easier > (and probably essential). Done this many times; slightly easier on a Six > than a Four cylinder Healey, but not awful in either case. BTW, this is a > good time to put in an uprated pump rather than a Chinese special ? > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Monday, October 13, 2025, 8:37 AM, Richard Antal via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Healeyphiles, > I discover now that the water pump of my Bj8 has, after 145k miles, > developed a leak. Other than removing fan and radiator, does the grill have > to be removed to access the pump for removal. I pray all can be done with > the engine in the car. Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions.......rich > antal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmarkovich at aol.com Mon Oct 13 09:24:33 2025 From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: References: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> <491428124.2340618.1760362647738@mail.yahoo.com> <638891666.2346429.1760364187471@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1759736973.2368989.1760369073076@mail.yahoo.com> Actually I was right the first time: Pulling the radiator back toward the engine obviously?adds some much needed?room for access. Done this many times and never bent the deflectors ? not that yanking the entire?radiator? Is that hard, but it does raise the risk of an oops moment when maneuvering it back in. And then aligning the mounting holes to the bolts can be an added pain in the ass ?? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, October 13, 2025, 11:03 AM, Michael Salter wrote: Just a comment. Pushing the rad forward either at the top or at 1 side is just fine. That's how the "flat rate" guys used to do it however, doing so requires that the air deflectors at the sides of the radiator must be bent inward to provide clearance. Of course no one ever used to bend?the deflectors back into place which often resulted in the customer returned with hot running/ overheating issues as soon as the hot weather returned.?Always good for another 2 chargable hours!!!M From: Healeys on behalf of Robert Markovich via Healeys Sent: Monday, October 13, 2025 10:03:07 AM To: Richard Antal ; Healeys Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pump?Many to say ?push that side of the radiator forward? to make room for your hands and a socket or other wrench.? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, October 13, 2025, 9:37 AM, Robert Markovich wrote: No the grill stays in place and even the radiator can as well. Instead, undo the mounting?bolts on ONE SIDE of the radiator and pull that side back enough to squeeze your hands in and access the fan bolts first and then the pump. I?ve found pulling off the fan before removing the pump is far easier (and probably essential). Done this many times; slightly?easier on a Six than a Four cylinder Healey, but not awful in either case. BTW, this is a good time to put in?an uprated pump rather than a Chinese special ? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, October 13, 2025, 8:37 AM, Richard Antal via Healeys wrote: Healeyphiles,? ? I discover now that the water pump of my Bj8 has, after 145k miles, developed a leak. Other than removing fan and radiator, does the grill have to be removed to access the pump for removal. I pray all can be done with the engine in the car. Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions.......rich antal_______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmasucci at charter.net Mon Oct 13 12:04:04 2025 From: dmasucci at charter.net (David Masucci) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 14:04:04 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Healey dashboard on the wall Message-ID: Hi everyone, I have my dad?s 64 BJ8 which I drive as often as I can. Dad got me started way back in the 70?s by helping me to buy my first car which was a red BJ7. At one point, I had purchased a BJ8 parts car. Back then I thought the wood dash was cool, So I manage to kludge it into my BJ7. Being someone who throws nothing away, I still have the original BJ7 dashboard. Instead of it sitting on a shelf collecting dust, I?ve decided it would look better hanging on the garage wall collecting dust! So I?ve mounted a spare steering wheel and other items to complete the look. I have the original gold face speedo and tach, but I don?t have the original gold face fuel and temp gauges. Would anyone have one or both of the above that I could buy inexpensively? They don?t have to work, just kind of look the part. Thank all, Dave Masucci -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We had 50 Healeys or more, and probably over 100 participants in Yosemite National Park. =========================== Al Fuller 714.335.0248 Mobile ------ Original Message ------ >From "Richard Antal via Healeys" To "Healeys" Date 10/13/2025 5:22:56 AM Subject [Healeys] water pump >Healeyphiles, > I discover now that the water pump of my Bj8 has, after 145k miles, >developed a leak. Other than removing fan and radiator, does the grill >have to be removed to access the pump for removal. I pray all can be >done with the engine in the car. Thanks for your thoughts and >suggestions.......rich antal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Mon Oct 13 16:46:26 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:46:26 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <491428124.2340618.1760362647738@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> <491428124.2340618.1760362647738@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <06455d95-999c-4234-b407-61e97ef7f9ba@comcast.net> Who has an 'uprated' pump for BJ8s? There is an 'uprated' pump for 100s made by Bastuck that is not ideal IMO. Bob On 10/13/2025 6:37 AM, Robert Markovich via Healeys wrote: > No the grill stays in place and even the radiator can as well. > Instead, undo the mounting?bolts on ONE SIDE of the radiator and pull > that side back enough to squeeze your hands in and access the fan > bolts first and then the pump. I?ve found pulling off the fan before > removing the pump is far easier (and probably essential). Done this > many times; slightly?easier on a Six than a Four cylinder Healey, but > not awful in either case. BTW, this is a good time to put in?an > uprated pump rather than a Chinese special ? > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Monday, October 13, 2025, 8:37 AM, Richard Antal via Healeys > wrote: > > Healeyphiles, > ? ? I discover now that the water pump of my Bj8 has, after 145k > miles, developed a leak. Other than removing fan and radiator, > does the grill have to be removed to access the pump for removal. > I pray all can be done with the engine in the car. Thanks for your > thoughts and suggestions.......rich antal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmarkovich at aol.com Mon Oct 13 18:29:12 2025 From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 00:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] water pump In-Reply-To: <06455d95-999c-4234-b407-61e97ef7f9ba@comcast.net> References: <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1306039115.2316850.1760358176865@mail.yahoo.com> <491428124.2340618.1760362647738@mail.yahoo.com> <06455d95-999c-4234-b407-61e97ef7f9ba@comcast.net> Message-ID: <751342092.2598833.1760401752215@mail.yahoo.com> Try Denis Welch, AH Spares, or British Cars in Stockton CA Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, October 13, 2025, 7:01 PM, Bob Spidell via Healeys wrote: Who has an 'uprated' pump for BJ8s? There is an 'uprated' pump for 100s made by Bastuck that is not ideal IMO. Bob On 10/13/2025 6:37 AM, Robert Markovich via Healeys wrote: No the grill stays in place and even the radiator can as well. Instead, undo the mounting?bolts on ONE SIDE of the radiator and pull that side back enough to squeeze your hands in and access the fan bolts first and then the pump. I?ve found pulling off the fan before removing the pump is far easier (and probably essential). Done this many times; slightly?easier on a Six than a Four cylinder Healey, but not awful in either case. BTW, this is a good time to put in?an uprated pump rather than a Chinese special ? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Monday, October 13, 2025, 8:37 AM, Richard Antal via Healeys wrote: Healeyphiles, ? ? I discover now that the water pump of my Bj8 has, after 145k miles, developed a leak. Other than removing fan and radiator, does the grill have to be removed to access the pump for removal. I pray all can be done with the engine in the car. Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions.......rich antal _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Tue Oct 14 18:34:15 2025 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 17:34:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey dashboard on the wall In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My spare, two piece late BN1 dash (non-adjustable steering b.1001-1855) hanging on my office wall. On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 12:32?PM David Masucci via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have my dad?s 64 BJ8 which I drive as often as I can. Dad got me started > way back in the 70?s by helping me to buy my first car which was a red BJ7. > At one point, I had purchased a BJ8 parts car. Back then I thought the wood > dash was cool, So I manage to kludge it into my BJ7. Being someone who > throws nothing away, I still have the original BJ7 dashboard. > > Instead of it sitting on a shelf collecting dust, I?ve decided it would > look better hanging on the garage wall collecting dust! So I?ve mounted a > spare steering wheel and other items to complete the look. I have the > original gold face speedo and tach, but I don?t have the original gold face > fuel and temp gauges. > > Would anyone have one or both of the above that I could buy inexpensively? > They don?t have to work, just kind of look the part. > > Thank all, > Dave Masucci > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Back then I thought the wood dash was cool, So I manage to kludge it into my BJ7. Being someone who throws nothing away, I still have the original BJ7 dashboard. > > Instead of it sitting on a shelf collecting dust, I?ve decided it would look better hanging on the garage wall collecting dust! So I?ve mounted a spare steering wheel and other items to complete the look. I have the original gold face speedo and tach, but I don?t have the original gold face fuel and temp gauges. > > Would anyone have one or both of the above that I could buy inexpensively? They don?t have to work, just kind of look the part. > > Thank all, > Dave Masucci > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/cnaarndt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cnaarndt at gmail.com Wed Oct 15 08:24:05 2025 From: cnaarndt at gmail.com (Curtis Arndt) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 07:24:05 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healey dashboard on the wall In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David, A fellow on the Austin Healey Experience was inspired by my dash and did this one for his wall. This was what I initially wanted to do, a custom wood backing with my original (never cracked and restored) steering wheel and a trafficator switch. I'll probably do this same thing in the near future, and I even have an extra restored nickel plated, red enamel valve cover emblem just like this fellow has. Chores, Curt On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 4:08?AM David Masucci wrote: > Nice Curtis?you should upload a picture! > > > > On Oct 14, 2025, at 8:34 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote: > > My spare, two piece late BN1 dash (non-adjustable steering b.1001-1855) > hanging on my office wall. > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2025 at 12:32?PM David Masucci via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I have my dad?s 64 BJ8 which I drive as often as I can. Dad got me >> started way back in the 70?s by helping me to buy my first car which was a >> red BJ7. At one point, I had purchased a BJ8 parts car. Back then I thought >> the wood dash was cool, So I manage to kludge it into my BJ7. 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Being someone who > throws nothing away, I still have the original BJ7 dashboard. > > Instead of it sitting on a shelf collecting dust, I?ve decided it would > look better hanging on the garage wall collecting dust! So I?ve mounted a > spare steering wheel and other items to complete the look. 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Don Sent from my iPhone From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Oct 16 14:29:27 2025 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 16:29:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB@yahoo.com> References: <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB.ref@yahoo.com> <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source of power. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys wrote: > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it > work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. > Don > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Oct 16 14:39:52 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 13:39:52 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB@yahoo.com> References: <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB.ref@yahoo.com> <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB@yahoo.com> Message-ID: Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, which block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one the LED won't produce light. In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange tint is camera bias, the light is red. Bob On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car ? 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Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys > wrote: On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. Don Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gilrockwell at gmail.com Thu Oct 16 14:57:39 2025 From: gilrockwell at gmail.com (Gil Rockwell) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 16:57:39 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: <1aa601dc3ede$76ff58e0$64fe0aa0$@gmail.com> References: <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB.ref@yahoo.com> <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB@yahoo.com> <1aa601dc3ede$76ff58e0$64fe0aa0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1ac301dc3edf$824ff6e0$86efe4a0$@gmail.com> Pardon my dyslexia, I meant to say if you have a positive ground Healey, a typical LED lamp bulb replacement will likely not work, negative ground Healeys will be fine. An incandescent bulb indeed does not care about polarity. Sorry for my absentmindedness! Gil From: Gil Rockwell Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:50 PM To: 'Michael Oritt' ; fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Cc: 'list' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Bulbs While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery charging device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do care about polarity, so if you have a negative ground Healey, check with the bulb manufacturer to see if the bulb you need/want is available for negative ground polarity. Gil From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Michael Oritt Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Cc: list > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source of power. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys > wrote: On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. 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Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 4:50?PM Gil Rockwell wrote: > While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery charging > device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do care about polarity, so > if you have a negative ground Healey, check with the bulb manufacturer to > see if the bulb you need/want is available for negative ground polarity. > > > > Gil > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael > Oritt > *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM > *To:* fsufan1952 at yahoo.com > *Cc:* list > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs > > > > Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source of > power. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys > wrote: > > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it > work on my alternator converted car ? 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Gil 61 BT 7 On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 6:51?PM Michael Oritt wrote: > I certainly showed my ignorance there--thank you for the correction. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 4:50?PM Gil Rockwell > wrote: > >> While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery charging >> device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do care about polarity, so >> if you have a negative ground Healey, check with the bulb manufacturer to >> see if the bulb you need/want is available for negative ground polarity. >> >> >> >> Gil >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael >> Oritt >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM >> *To:* fsufan1952 at yahoo.com >> *Cc:* list >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs >> >> >> >> Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source of >> power. >> >> >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys >> wrote: >> >> On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 >> They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it >> work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. >> Don >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> Virus-free.www.avast.com >> >> <#m_-6345205356035301860_m_3885271330977996613_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Thu Oct 16 17:50:53 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 16:50:53 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: References: <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB.ref@yahoo.com> <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB@yahoo.com> <1aa601dc3ede$76ff58e0$64fe0aa0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3f9b52ac-a879-45f0-b08d-82d213058ca8@comcast.net> Looks like dual-polarity bulbs are now available (they weren't years ago when I bought mine). I was advised by seller to get the red ones https://www.ledlight.com/1157-bulb-led-bay15d-base-12-volt-2-6-watt.aspx On 10/16/2025 4:06 PM, Gil Rockwell wrote: > No, you are fine, I also messed up with that reply, I meant to say > they won't work with positive ground vehicles, unless the manufacturer > makes one for that specific condition.? My aged brain wasn't in gear! > > Gil > 61 BT 7 > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 6:51?PM Michael Oritt > wrote: > > I certainly showed my ignorance there--thank you for the correction. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 4:50?PM Gil Rockwell > wrote: > > While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery > charging device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do > care about polarity, so if you have a negative ground Healey, > check with the bulb manufacturer to see if the bulb you > need/want is available for negative ground polarity. > > Gil > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of > *Michael Oritt > *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM > *To:* fsufan1952 at yahoo.com > *Cc:* list > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs > > Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about > polarity?or source of power. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys > wrote: > > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a > #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more > expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car > ? I assume a lot brighter. > ? ? ? ? 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URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Thu Oct 16 18:03:27 2025 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 20:03:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: References: <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB.ref@yahoo.com> <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB@yahoo.com> <1aa601dc3ede$76ff58e0$64fe0aa0$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Actually I was speaking from both haste and ignorance as I just assumed an erroneous fact. On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 7:07?PM Gil Rockwell wrote: > No, you are fine, I also messed up with that reply, I meant to say they > won't work with positive ground vehicles, unless the manufacturer makes one > for that specific condition. My aged brain wasn't in gear! > > Gil > 61 BT 7 > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 6:51?PM Michael Oritt > wrote: > >> I certainly showed my ignorance there--thank you for the correction. >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 4:50?PM Gil Rockwell >> wrote: >> >>> While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery charging >>> device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do care about polarity, so >>> if you have a negative ground Healey, check with the bulb manufacturer to >>> see if the bulb you need/want is available for negative ground polarity. >>> >>> >>> >>> Gil >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael >>> Oritt >>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM >>> *To:* fsufan1952 at yahoo.com >>> *Cc:* list >>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source >>> of power. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best--Michael Oritt >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys >>> wrote: >>> >>> On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 >>> They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it >>> work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. >>> Don >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Virus-free.www.avast.com >>> >>> <#m_2084833603112640430_m_-6345205356035301860_m_3885271330977996613_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My aged brain wasn't in gear! >> >> Gil >> 61 BT 7 >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 6:51?PM Michael Oritt >> wrote: >> >>> I certainly showed my ignorance there--thank you for the correction. >>> >>> Best--Michael Oritt >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 4:50?PM Gil Rockwell >>> wrote: >>> >>>> While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery charging >>>> device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do care about polarity, so >>>> if you have a negative ground Healey, check with the bulb manufacturer to >>>> see if the bulb you need/want is available for negative ground polarity. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gil >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael >>>> Oritt >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM >>>> *To:* fsufan1952 at yahoo.com >>>> *Cc:* list >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source >>>> of power. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best--Michael Oritt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 >>>> They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it >>>> work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. >>>> Don >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Virus-free.www.avast.com >>>> >>>> <#m_-8207453185659341231_m_2084833603112640430_m_-6345205356035301860_m_3885271330977996613_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Thu Oct 16 18:40:43 2025 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 17:40:43 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: References: <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB.ref@yahoo.com> <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB@yahoo.com> Message-ID: LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much easier for other motorists to see and avoid you. Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance to operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. They are not expensive. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator > conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. > alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity > for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, which > block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one the LED > won't produce light. > > In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange tint > is camera bias, the light is red. > > Bob > > On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it > work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. > > Don > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Oct 17 06:21:15 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 05:21:15 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: References: <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB.ref@yahoo.com> <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB@yahoo.com> Message-ID: BJ8s use a separate circuit for turn signals. I kept std. incandescent bulbs in mine; I did put LEDs in the fascia (dash) indicators; they bleed across a little, but it's worth it to actually be able to see them. On 10/16/2025 5:40 PM, Al Fuller wrote: > LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much > easier for other motorists to see and avoid you. > > Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance > to operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. > > You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. > They are not expensive. > > ________________ > Sent from my phone > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: > > Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator > conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. > alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity > for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, > which > block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one > the LED > won't produce light. > > In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange > tint > is camera bias, the light is red. > > Bob > > On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but > will it work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. > >? ? ? ? ? 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URL: From gmcharris at hotmail.com Fri Oct 17 12:25:28 2025 From: gmcharris at hotmail.com (george mcharris) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 18:25:28 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 18, Issue 173 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Buy the same LED bulbs on line s..a lot less expensive than from normal sources. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of healeys-request at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, October 17, 2025 11:00 AM To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Healeys Digest, Vol 18, Issue 173 Send Healeys mailing list submissions to healeys at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fautox.team.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fhealeys&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd9fc97e4ab364f954d7308de0da90c16%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638963216886334673%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=XJt7V%2BWF8BL0TpIZ24drLjRRWTPQA%2FogpCWyz1YJQ%2Bw%3D&reserved=0 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to healeys-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at healeys-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Bulbs (fsufan1952 at yahoo.com) 2. Re: Bulbs (Michael Oritt) 3. Re: Bulbs (Bob Spidell) 4. Re: Bulbs (Gil Rockwell) 5. Re: Bulbs (Gil Rockwell) 6. Re: Bulbs (Michael Oritt) 7. Re: Bulbs (Gil Rockwell) 8. Re: Bulbs (Bob Spidell) 9. Re: Bulbs (Michael Oritt) 10. Re: Bulbs (Gil Rockwell) 11. Re: Bulbs (Al Fuller) 12. Re: Bulbs (Bob Spidell) 13. Re: Bulbs (Hank Leach) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 14:47:47 -0400 From: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com To: list Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs Message-ID: <075937CF-A7FA-4CE2-AEFF-1E79CC45CCEB at yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. Don Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 16:29:27 -0400 From: Michael Oritt To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Cc: list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source of power. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys wrote: > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it > work on my alternator converted car ? 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URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 13:39:52 -0700 From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, which block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one the LED won't produce light. In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange tint is camera bias, the light is red. Bob On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car ? 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Name: LEDs.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 124821 bytes Desc: not available URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 16:50:10 -0400 From: "Gil Rockwell" To: "'Michael Oritt'" , Cc: "'list'" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Message-ID: <1aa601dc3ede$76ff58e0$64fe0aa0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery charging device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do care about polarity, so if you have a negative ground Healey, check with the bulb manufacturer to see if the bulb you need/want is available for negative ground polarity. Gil From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Oritt Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Cc: list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source of power. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys > wrote: On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. 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URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 16:57:39 -0400 From: "Gil Rockwell" To: "'Michael Oritt'" , Cc: "'list'" Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Message-ID: <1ac301dc3edf$824ff6e0$86efe4a0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Pardon my dyslexia, I meant to say if you have a positive ground Healey, a typical LED lamp bulb replacement will likely not work, negative ground Healeys will be fine. An incandescent bulb indeed does not care about polarity. Sorry for my absentmindedness! Gil From: Gil Rockwell Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:50 PM To: 'Michael Oritt' ; fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Cc: 'list' Subject: RE: [Healeys] Bulbs While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery charging device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do care about polarity, so if you have a negative ground Healey, check with the bulb manufacturer to see if the bulb you need/want is available for negative ground polarity. Gil From: Healeys > On Behalf Of Michael Oritt Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM To: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com Cc: list > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source of power. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys > wrote: On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. 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URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:51:38 -0400 From: Michael Oritt To: Gil Rockwell Cc: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com, list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I certainly showed my ignorance there--thank you for the correction. Best--Michael Oritt On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 4:50?PM Gil Rockwell wrote: > While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery charging > device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do care about polarity, so > if you have a negative ground Healey, check with the bulb manufacturer to > see if the bulb you need/want is available for negative ground polarity. > > > > Gil > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael > Oritt > *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM > *To:* fsufan1952 at yahoo.com > *Cc:* list > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs > > > > Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source of > power. > > > > Best--Michael Oritt > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys > wrote: > > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it > work on my alternator converted car ? 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URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 19:06:49 -0400 From: Gil Rockwell To: Michael Oritt Cc: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com, list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" No, you are fine, I also messed up with that reply, I meant to say they won't work with positive ground vehicles, unless the manufacturer makes one for that specific condition. My aged brain wasn't in gear! Gil 61 BT 7 On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 6:51?PM Michael Oritt wrote: > I certainly showed my ignorance there--thank you for the correction. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 4:50?PM Gil Rockwell > wrote: > >> While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery charging >> device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do care about polarity, so >> if you have a negative ground Healey, check with the bulb manufacturer to >> see if the bulb you need/want is available for negative ground polarity. >> >> >> >> Gil >> >> >> >> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael >> Oritt >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM >> *To:* fsufan1952 at yahoo.com >> *Cc:* list >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs >> >> >> >> Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source of >> power. >> >> >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys >> wrote: >> >> On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 >> They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it >> work on my alternator converted car ? 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URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 16:50:53 -0700 From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Message-ID: <3f9b52ac-a879-45f0-b08d-82d213058ca8 at comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Looks like dual-polarity bulbs are now available (they weren't years ago when I bought mine). I was advised by seller to get the red ones https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ledlight.com%2F1157-bulb-led-bay15d-base-12-volt-2-6-watt.aspx&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cd9fc97e4ab364f954d7308de0da90c16%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638963216887292589%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=H8ceya%2FX9mwyAseCznxGck4XWIzIbLYqckVszvwfVrE%3D&reserved=0 On 10/16/2025 4:06 PM, Gil Rockwell wrote: > No, you are fine, I also messed up with that reply, I meant to say > they won't work with positive ground vehicles, unless the manufacturer > makes one for that specific condition.? My aged brain wasn't in gear! > > Gil > 61 BT 7 > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 6:51?PM Michael Oritt > wrote: > > I certainly showed my ignorance there--thank you for the correction. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 4:50?PM Gil Rockwell > wrote: > > While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery > charging device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do > care about polarity, so if you have a negative ground Healey, > check with the bulb manufacturer to see if the bulb you > need/want is available for negative ground polarity. > > Gil > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of > *Michael Oritt > *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM > *To:* fsufan1952 at yahoo.com > *Cc:* list > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs > > Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about > polarity?or source of power. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys > wrote: > > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a > #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more > expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car > ? I assume a lot brighter. > ? ? ? ? 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URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 20:03:27 -0400 From: Michael Oritt To: Gil Rockwell Cc: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com, list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Actually I was speaking from both haste and ignorance as I just assumed an erroneous fact. On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 7:07?PM Gil Rockwell wrote: > No, you are fine, I also messed up with that reply, I meant to say they > won't work with positive ground vehicles, unless the manufacturer makes one > for that specific condition. My aged brain wasn't in gear! > > Gil > 61 BT 7 > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 6:51?PM Michael Oritt > wrote: > >> I certainly showed my ignorance there--thank you for the correction. >> >> Best--Michael Oritt >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 4:50?PM Gil Rockwell >> wrote: >> >>> While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery charging >>> device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do care about polarity, so >>> if you have a negative ground Healey, check with the bulb manufacturer to >>> see if the bulb you need/want is available for negative ground polarity. >>> >>> >>> >>> Gil >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael >>> Oritt >>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM >>> *To:* fsufan1952 at yahoo.com >>> *Cc:* list >>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source >>> of power. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best--Michael Oritt >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys >>> wrote: >>> >>> On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 >>> They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it >>> work on my alternator converted car ? 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URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 20:14:52 -0400 From: Gil Rockwell To: Michael Oritt Cc: fsufan1952 at yahoo.com, list Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" No problem, my haste and being distracted at the moment led me to hitting send before rereading my response. The fact that they now make dual polarity bulbs makes your response correct. Gil On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 8:03?PM Michael Oritt wrote: > Actually I was speaking from both haste and ignorance as I just assumed an > erroneous fact. > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 7:07?PM Gil Rockwell > wrote: > >> No, you are fine, I also messed up with that reply, I meant to say they >> won't work with positive ground vehicles, unless the manufacturer makes one >> for that specific condition. My aged brain wasn't in gear! >> >> Gil >> 61 BT 7 >> >> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 6:51?PM Michael Oritt >> wrote: >> >>> I certainly showed my ignorance there--thank you for the correction. >>> >>> Best--Michael Oritt >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 4:50?PM Gil Rockwell >>> wrote: >>> >>>> While it may work fine, and it doesn?t matter if the battery charging >>>> device is a generator or alternator, LED bulbs do care about polarity, so >>>> if you have a negative ground Healey, check with the bulb manufacturer to >>>> see if the bulb you need/want is available for negative ground polarity. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gil >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael >>>> Oritt >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2025 4:29 PM >>>> *To:* fsufan1952 at yahoo.com >>>> *Cc:* list >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes it will work just fine--bulbs do not care about polarity or source >>>> of power. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best--Michael Oritt >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2025 at 3:30?PM Don via Healeys >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 >>>> They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it >>>> work on my alternator converted car ? 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URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 17:40:43 -0700 From: Al Fuller To: AH Mail List Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much easier for other motorists to see and avoid you. Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance to operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. They are not expensive. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator > conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. > alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity > for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, which > block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one the LED > won't produce light. > > In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange tint > is camera bias, the light is red. > > Bob > > On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it > work on my alternator converted car ? 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URL: > ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 05:21:15 -0700 From: Bob Spidell To: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" BJ8s use a separate circuit for turn signals. I kept std. incandescent bulbs in mine; I did put LEDs in the fascia (dash) indicators; they bleed across a little, but it's worth it to actually be able to see them. On 10/16/2025 5:40 PM, Al Fuller wrote: > LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much > easier for other motorists to see and avoid you. > > Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance > to operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. > > You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. > They are not expensive. > > ________________ > Sent from my phone > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: > > Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator > conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. > alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity > for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, > which > block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one > the LED > won't produce light. > > In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange > tint > is camera bias, the light is red. > > Bob > > On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but > will it work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. > >? ? ? ? ? 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URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Fri Oct 17 13:03:48 2025 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 19:03:48 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: <65145c16-b32a-089b-97c5-c24f5d662984@charter.net> References: <65145c16-b32a-089b-97c5-c24f5d662984@charter.net> Message-ID: Hank, They don't anymore but they want to know if your horn can work a minimum of 6 seconds to deliver an angry blast and you must have a middle finger on your left hand. Canadians are warned not to uses these tactics in the USA as the other driver may be armed lol Jean Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 17, 2025 11:31:51 AM To: Al Fuller ; Healey team Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs I still like to use hand signals and since no one else does, they are unique to modern day driving and I believe actually noticed-especially when some high riding 6000 lb pickup gets behind me. Wonder if the DMVs still require one to know what they mean? Hank -------------------- From: "Al Fuller" To: "AH Mail List" Sent: October 16, 2025 at 7:02 PM PDT Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much easier for other motorists to see and avoid you. Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance to operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. They are not expensive. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, which block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one the LED won't produce light. In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange tint is camera bias, the light is red. Bob On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. > Don > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Fri Oct 17 13:48:05 2025 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (healeybruce at roadrunner.com) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 19:48:05 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: <65145c16-b32a-089b-97c5-c24f5d662984@charter.net> References: <65145c16-b32a-089b-97c5-c24f5d662984@charter.net> Message-ID: In California, they actually passed a law a few years ago making hand signals illegal! ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 17, 2025 9:31 AM To: Al Fuller ; Healey team Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs I still like to use hand signals and since no one else does, they are unique to modern day driving and I believe actually noticed-especially when some high riding 6000 lb pickup gets behind me. Wonder if the DMVs still require one to know what they mean? Hank -------------------- From: "Al Fuller" To: "AH Mail List" Sent: October 16, 2025 at 7:02 PM PDT Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much easier for other motorists to see and avoid you. Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance to operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. They are not expensive. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, which block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one the LED won't produce light. In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange tint is camera bias, the light is red. Bob On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. > Don > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 17 14:23:27 2025 From: jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net (JSARCH) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 17:23:27 -0300 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: References: <65145c16-b32a-089b-97c5-c24f5d662984@charter.net> Message-ID: <009601dc3fa3$e7a176d0$b6e46470$@sbcglobal.net> My bumper sticker: ?Horn broken ? Watch for finger? From: Healeys On Behalf Of Jean Caron via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 17, 2025 4:04 PM To: gradea1 at charter.net; Al Fuller ; Healey team Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs Hank, They don't anymore but they want to know if your horn can work a minimum of 6 seconds to deliver an angry blast and you must have a middle finger on your left hand. Canadians are warned not to uses these tactics in the USA as the other driver may be armed lol Jean Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. _____ From: Healeys > on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2025 11:31:51 AM To: Al Fuller >; Healey team > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs I still like to use hand signals and since no one else does, they are unique to modern day driving and I believe actually noticed-especially when some high riding 6000 lb pickup gets behind me. Wonder if the DMVs still require one to know what they mean? Hank -------------------- From: "Al Fuller" > To: "AH Mail List" > Sent: October 16, 2025 at 7:02 PM PDT Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much easier for other motorists to see and avoid you. Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance to operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. They are not expensive. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, which block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one the LED won't produce light. In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange tint is camera bias, the light is red. Bob On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. > Don > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Fri Oct 17 14:45:49 2025 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 16:45:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: References: <65145c16-b32a-089b-97c5-c24f5d662984@charter.net> Message-ID: Yeah, I read that. But it is okay if the hand signals are in Spanish Jim Ryan ???? On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:40?PM healeybruce--- via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > In California, they actually passed a law a few years ago making hand > signals illegal! > ------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Hank Leach > via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, October 17, 2025 9:31 AM > *To:* Al Fuller ; Healey team < > healeys at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs > > I still like to use *hand signals* and since no one else does, they are > unique to modern day driving and I believe actually noticed-especially when > some high riding 6000 lb pickup gets behind me. Wonder if the DMVs still > require one to know what they mean? Hank > -------------------- > > From: "Al Fuller" > To: "AH Mail List" > Sent: October 16, 2025 at 7:02 PM PDT > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs > LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much easier > for other motorists to see and avoid you. > > Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance to > operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. > > You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. > They are not expensive. > > ________________ > Sent from my phone > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator > conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. > alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity > for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, which > block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one the LED > won't produce light. > > In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange tint > is camera bias, the light is red. > > Bob > > On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it > work on my alternator converted car ? 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Mark Fawcett 59 BT7 On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 1:12?PM i erbs wrote: > Hello > I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. > I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. > My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission > on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/marknmon at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Fri Oct 17 14:48:52 2025 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 21:48:52 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks I'll order one to have on hand Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:47 Mark wrote: > Ira > I didn't have an issue using the original Healey cable with the angle > drive from Toyota. Part #83770-30070. This was 20 years ago, but still > going strong. > > Mark Fawcett > 59 BT7 > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 1:12?PM i erbs wrote: > >> Hello >> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >> Thanks >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/marknmon at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: > Hello > I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. > I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. > My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission > on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you > can find out who does that they might be able to help. > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: > >> Hello >> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >> Thanks >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Healeys On Behalf Of healeybruce--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 17, 2025 4:48 PM To: Al Fuller ; Healey team ; gradea1 at charter.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs In California, they actually passed a law a few years ago making hand signals illegal! _____ From: Healeys > on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2025 9:31 AM To: Al Fuller >; Healey team > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs I still like to use hand signals and since no one else does, they are unique to modern day driving and I believe actually noticed-especially when some high riding 6000 lb pickup gets behind me. Wonder if the DMVs still require one to know what they mean? Hank -------------------- From: "Al Fuller" > To: "AH Mail List" > Sent: October 16, 2025 at 7:02 PM PDT Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much easier for other motorists to see and avoid you. Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance to operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. They are not expensive. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, which block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one the LED won't produce light. In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange tint is camera bias, the light is red. Bob On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. > Don > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If >> you can find out who does that they might be able to help. >> >> Jim Ryan >> >> ???? >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: >> >>> Hello >>> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >>> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >>> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >>> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >>> Thanks >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> Milwaukie, OR >>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drtommitch at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phoenix722 at comcast.net Fri Oct 17 19:31:41 2025 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 18:31:41 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: <000001dc3fb2$8f7d62c0$ae782840$@sbcglobal.net> References: <65145c16-b32a-089b-97c5-c24f5d662984@charter.net> <000001dc3fb2$8f7d62c0$ae782840$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I lived in one state where the right turn signal was to stick your arm straight out and wave it in a circle, as in "c'mon around!" Mike On 10/17/25 3:08 PM, JSARCH wrote: > > Not True, hand signals are legal in California: > > https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handbook/california-driver-handbook/introduction-to-driving/#:~:text=Always%20signal%20when%20you%20turn,shown%20in%20the%20image%20below. > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of > *healeybruce--- via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, October 17, 2025 4:48 PM > *To:* Al Fuller ; Healey team > ; gradea1 at charter.net > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs > > In California, they actually passed a law a few years ago making hand > signals illegal! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Healeys on behalf of Hank > Leach via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, October 17, 2025 9:31 AM > *To:* Al Fuller ; Healey team > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs > > I still like to use *hand signals* and since no one else does, they > are unique to modern day driving and I believe actually > noticed-especially when some high riding 6000 lb pickup gets behind > me. Wonder if the DMVs still require one to know what they mean? Hank > -------------------- > > From: "Al Fuller" > To: "AH Mail List" > Sent: October 16, 2025 at 7:02 PM PDT > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs > > LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much > easier for other motorists to see and avoid you. > > Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance > to operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. > > You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. > They are not expensive. > > ________________ > Sent from my phone > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: > > Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator > conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. > alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity > for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, > which > block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one > the LED > won't produce light. > > In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange > tint > is camera bias, the light is red. > > Bob > > On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but > will it work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. > >? ? ? ? ? Don > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If >>> you can find out who does that they might be able to help. >>> >>> Jim Ryan >>> >>> ???? >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: >>> >>>> Hello >>>> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >>>> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >>>> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >>>> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Ira Erbs >>>> Milwaukie, OR >>>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drtommitch at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: HelloI about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph.I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin.My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to.Thanks? Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sat Oct 18 08:37:22 2025 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2025 15:37:22 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: <448054828.4299847.1760789673037@mail.yahoo.com> References: <448054828.4299847.1760789673037@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That is way out of my budget, but I agree, it is a superior kit Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 13:14 Robert Markovich wrote: > Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey Sixes and > Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and order the .73 fifth gear > ratio as the standard .63 is way too steep. Trust me on this! > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs wrote: > > The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to > inquiries than he was. > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: > > Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If you > can find out who does that they might be able to help. > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: > > Hello > I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. > I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. > My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission > on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I kept std. incandescent > bulbs in mine; I did put LEDs in the fascia (dash) indicators; they bleed > across a little, but it's worth it to actually be able to see them. > > > On 10/16/2025 5:40 PM, Al Fuller wrote: > > LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much easier > for other motorists to see and avoid you. > > Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance to > operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. > > You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. > They are not expensive. > > ________________ > Sent from my phone > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator >> conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. >> alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity >> for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, which >> block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one the LED >> won't produce light. >> >> In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange tint >> is camera bias, the light is red. >> >> Bob >> >> On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: >> > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 >> > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it >> work on my alternator converted car ? I assume a lot brighter. >> > Don >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> > >> > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> > >> > Healeys at autox.team.net >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> > >> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan at jimryan.com Sat Oct 18 15:43:49 2025 From: ryan at jimryan.com (Jim Ryan) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2025 17:43:49 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Beaulieu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sexy, not pretty.... On Sat, Oct 18, 2025 at 5:11?PM i erbs wrote: > Hello all > I finally made it to Beaulieu today. > My wife and I had a great time. It took some time to find a Healey, but we > did locate a pretty 100 > > My wife impressed me with how much car stuff she had learned in the last > 46 years. She had a great time too. The monorail ride was cool too. > Really worth seeing. Over 250 cars in the collection. > > > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > -- Jim Ryan ???? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 1000007313.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 396126 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Even if you are starting with an angle drive you might consider that approach. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 1:10?PM i erbs wrote: > Hello > I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. > I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. > My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission > on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Sat Oct 18 15:45:33 2025 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2025 14:45:33 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Bulbs In-Reply-To: References: <009601dc3fa3$e7a176d0$b6e46470$@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: True!! ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 2:35?PM wrote: > I had no need to replace the flasher as I only changed the brake / running > light. > Don > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 17, 2025, at 5:11?PM, JSARCH wrote: > > ? > > My bumper sticker: > > > > ?Horn broken ? Watch for finger? > > > > *From:* Healeys *On Behalf Of *Jean > Caron via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, October 17, 2025 4:04 PM > *To:* gradea1 at charter.net; Al Fuller ; Healey team > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs > > > > Hank, > > They don't anymore but they want to know if your horn can work a minimum > of 6 seconds to deliver an angry blast and you must have a middle finger on > your left hand. > > Canadians are warned not to uses these tactics in the USA as the other > driver may be armed lol > > > > Jean > > > > Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada?s largest network. > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Hank Leach > via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, October 17, 2025 11:31:51 AM > *To:* Al Fuller ; Healey team < > healeys at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Bulbs > > > > I still like to use *hand signals* and since no one else does, they are > unique to modern day driving and I believe actually noticed-especially when > some high riding 6000 lb pickup gets behind me. Wonder if the DMVs still > require one to know what they mean? Hank > -------------------- > > From: "Al Fuller" > To: "AH Mail List" > Sent: October 16, 2025 at 7:02 PM PDT > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs > > LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much easier > for other motorists to see and avoid you. > > > > Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance to > operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. > > > > You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. > They are not expensive. > > > > ________________ > Sent from my phone > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator > conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. > alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity > for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, which > block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one the LED > won't produce light. > > In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange tint > is camera bias, the light is red. > > Bob > > On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. A lot more expensive but will it > work on my alternator converted car ? 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URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Sat Oct 18 15:52:16 2025 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2025 14:52:16 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: <448054828.4299847.1760789673037@mail.yahoo.com> References: <448054828.4299847.1760789673037@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The tremec conversion is supposed to be nice, but one of the guys has been waiting for months for them to get that particular gear. I've lost track of whether they finally got a batch. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 5:22?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey Sixes and > Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and order the .73 fifth gear > ratio as the standard .63 is way too steep. Trust me on this! > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs wrote: > > The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to > inquiries than he was. > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: > > Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If you > can find out who does that they might be able to help. > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: > > Hello > I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. > I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. > My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission > on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyray at yahoo.com Sat Oct 18 16:37:41 2025 From: healeyray at yahoo.com (Ray Juncal) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2025 22:37:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1784158382.4415360.1760827061416@mail.yahoo.com> I always had a good rapport with Smitty, crusty as he was. But then I'd just go out to his shop and bother him while he stuffed a full blown air conditioner under the dash or something. On Saturday, October 18, 2025 at 12:47:04 AM PDT, i erbs wrote: YupWhy buy a biz if you don't want to help people buy your products?Just bizarre? Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 00:45 Tom Mitchell wrote: If you mean by less responsive, less helpful, less willing to help, yes!Tom Dr. Mitchell's Gmail On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 5:41?PM i erbs wrote: The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to inquiries than he was. Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup?? If you can find out who does that they might be able to help. Jim Ryan ???? On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: HelloI about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph.I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin.My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to.Thanks? Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drtommitch at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Sun Oct 19 05:59:13 2025 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 07:59:13 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: <1784158382.4415360.1760827061416@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1784158382.4415360.1760827061416@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: After driving my 100 from MD to Tahoe for Open Roads 2002 I continued on to the PCH to drive down to LA to see family before heading home. Some place around Lompoc 2nd gear broke and I realized it was going to be a long trip back east with only 1st and 3rd. I called Smitty and fortunately he had both a kit and a freshly overhauled Toyota W58 on hand. He lent me the use of his lift, tools and knowledge and two days later I drove out with an operative 5-speed transmission which got me back to MD. Smitty was a wonderful guy, always willing to help. Best--Michael Oritt On Sat, Oct 18, 2025 at 9:41?PM Ray Juncal via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > I always had a good rapport with Smitty, crusty as he was. But then I'd > just go out to his shop and bother him while he stuffed a full blown air > conditioner under the dash or something. > > On Saturday, October 18, 2025 at 12:47:04 AM PDT, i erbs < > eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Yup > Why buy a biz if you don't want to help people buy your products? > Just bizarre > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 00:45 Tom Mitchell wrote: > > If you mean by less responsive, less helpful, less willing to help, yes! > Tom > > Dr. Mitchell's Gmail > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 5:41?PM i erbs wrote: > > The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to > inquiries than he was. > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: > > Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If you > can find out who does that they might be able to help. > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: > > Hello > I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. > I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. > My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission > on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drtommitch at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Oct 19 06:17:51 2025 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 13:17:51 +0100 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: <1784158382.4415360.1760827061416@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks Micheal Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 12:59 Michael Oritt wrote: > After driving my 100 from MD to Tahoe for Open Roads 2002 I continued on > to the PCH to drive down to LA to see family before heading home. Some > place around Lompoc 2nd gear broke and I realized it was going to be a long > trip back east with only 1st and 3rd. I called Smitty and fortunately he > had both a kit and a freshly overhauled Toyota W58 on hand. He lent me > the use of his lift, tools and knowledge and two days later I drove out > with an operative 5-speed transmission which got me back to MD. Smitty was > a wonderful guy, always willing to help. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2025 at 9:41?PM Ray Juncal via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I always had a good rapport with Smitty, crusty as he was. But then I'd >> just go out to his shop and bother him while he stuffed a full blown air >> conditioner under the dash or something. >> >> On Saturday, October 18, 2025 at 12:47:04 AM PDT, i erbs < >> eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Yup >> Why buy a biz if you don't want to help people buy your products? >> Just bizarre >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 00:45 Tom Mitchell wrote: >> >> If you mean by less responsive, less helpful, less willing to help, yes! >> Tom >> >> Dr. Mitchell's Gmail >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 5:41?PM i erbs wrote: >> >> The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to >> inquiries than he was. >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: >> >> Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If >> you can find out who does that they might be able to help. >> >> Jim Ryan >> >> ???? >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: >> >> Hello >> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >> Thanks >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drtommitch at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Sun Oct 19 11:46:32 2025 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 10:46:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ira: I don't have the cars anymore so I can't get pictures. As I recall I was able to get one cable from a speedometer shop, and the Healey 5 speed folks supplied one. All this was many years ago, so things may have changed. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 12:32?AM i erbs wrote: > Can you send more info and a photo? > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 22:45 Al Fuller wrote: > >> Ira, IIRC none of the 5-speed conversions I installed required the angle >> drive. They used a custom speedometer cable that fit the Toyota >> transmission on one end and the Smiths speedometer on the other. >> >> Even if you are starting with an angle drive you might consider that >> approach. >> >> ________________ >> Sent from my phone >> Best Regards, >> Al Fuller >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 1:10?PM i erbs wrote: >> >>> Hello >>> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >>> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >>> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >>> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >>> Thanks >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> Milwaukie, OR >>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Oct 19 11:59:48 2025 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 19:59:48 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Al I need to get my car on a rack and pull the angle drive off. There supposed to be a shop near me who can rebuild it. I have just not felt up to doing the work. But it must be done. I need to replace my hot cable from battery to starter too. The p clip wore off the insulation. They are going to be winter projects Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 19:46 Al Fuller wrote: > Hi Ira: > > I don't have the cars anymore so I can't get pictures. As I recall I was > able to get one cable from a speedometer shop, and the Healey 5 speed folks > supplied one. All this was many years ago, so things may have changed. > > ________________ > Sent from my phone > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 12:32?AM i erbs wrote: > >> Can you send more info and a photo? >> Thanks >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 22:45 Al Fuller wrote: >> >>> Ira, IIRC none of the 5-speed conversions I installed required the angle >>> drive. They used a custom speedometer cable that fit the Toyota >>> transmission on one end and the Smiths speedometer on the other. >>> >>> Even if you are starting with an angle drive you might consider that >>> approach. >>> >>> ________________ >>> Sent from my phone >>> Best Regards, >>> Al Fuller >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 1:10?PM i erbs wrote: >>> >>>> Hello >>>> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >>>> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >>>> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >>>> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Ira Erbs >>>> Milwaukie, OR >>>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmarkovich at aol.com Sun Oct 19 13:12:49 2025 From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 19:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: <448054828.4299847.1760789673037@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <242409350.4560961.1760901169208@mail.yahoo.com> That .73 gear is essential, and after a couple of miserable weeks with the .63 gear, I told them so. They were extremely gracious in getting me the .73 replacement and a local transmission shop made the swap. Sorry to hear there?s a wait for that gear now, but obviously others came to the same conclusion that the .63 is way too steep for the Healey. Some simple math would have saved me some trouble: fifth gear ratio x rear?end ratio for the ultimate, final drive, and it?s obvious that .73 is about all you want with the 3.91 rear and even the 4.10 on the 100/6. And I think even the .73 would be too much with a 3.54 rear; there should be a .88 or so gear for the Tremec T5, which I?d pick that that rear.? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, October 18, 2025, 5:52 PM, Al Fuller wrote: The tremec conversion is supposed to be nice, but one of the guys has been waiting for months for them to get that particular gear. I've lost track of whether they finally got a batch. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 5:22?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys wrote: Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey Sixes and Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and order the .73 fifth gear ratio as the standard .63 is way too steep. Trust me on this! Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs wrote: The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to inquiries than he was. Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup?? If you can find out who does that they might be able to help. Jim Ryan ???? On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: HelloI about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph.I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin.My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to.Thanks? Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Oct 19 13:23:18 2025 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 21:23:18 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: <242409350.4560961.1760901169208@mail.yahoo.com> References: <448054828.4299847.1760789673037@mail.yahoo.com> <242409350.4560961.1760901169208@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There is a shop near me who can rebuild my angle drive so my speedo is correct for the tires on my car. I need to find my notes. I used a Speedo app to help calibrate the drive Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 21:12 Robert Markovich wrote: > That .73 gear is essential, and after a couple of miserable weeks with the > .63 gear, I told them so. They were extremely gracious in getting me the > .73 replacement and a local transmission shop made the swap. Sorry to hear > there?s a wait for that gear now, but obviously others came to the same > conclusion that the .63 is way too steep for the Healey. Some simple math > would have saved me some trouble: fifth gear ratio x rear end ratio for the > ultimate, final drive, and it?s obvious that .73 is about all you want with > the 3.91 rear and even the 4.10 on the 100/6. And I think even the .73 > would be too much with a 3.54 rear; there should be a .88 or so gear for > the Tremec T5, which I?d pick that that rear. > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Saturday, October 18, 2025, 5:52 PM, Al Fuller > wrote: > > The tremec conversion is supposed to be nice, but one of the guys has been > waiting for months for them to get that particular gear. > > I've lost track of whether they finally got a batch. > > ________________ > Sent from my phone > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 5:22?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey Sixes and > Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and order the .73 fifth gear > ratio as the standard .63 is way too steep. Trust me on this! > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs wrote: > > The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to > inquiries than he was. > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: > > Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If you > can find out who does that they might be able to help. > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: > > Hello > I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. > I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. > My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission > on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyracer466 at gmail.com Sun Oct 19 14:08:19 2025 From: boyracer466 at gmail.com (richard mayor) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 13:08:19 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: <242409350.4560961.1760901169208@mail.yahoo.com> References: <448054828.4299847.1760789673037@mail.yahoo.com> <242409350.4560961.1760901169208@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6897DD1F-82DC-4E22-ABDC-E8F5CE7FCA95@gmail.com> By way of comparison, the Toyota W58 fifth gear is .76 and the W59 is .81. You can move the position of the shift towers on these transmissions to come out within 1/2? of a Healey center-shift stick. But, you cannot change the fifth gear to change the ratio. Fifth gear is part of a complete different set of gears. Richard Mayor boyracer466 at gmail.com > On Oct 19, 2025, at 12:12?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys wrote: > > That .73 gear is essential, and after a couple of miserable weeks with the .63 gear, I told them so. They were extremely gracious in getting me the .73 replacement and a local transmission shop made the swap. Sorry to hear there?s a wait for that gear now, but obviously others came to the same conclusion that the .63 is way too steep for the Healey. Some simple math would have saved me some trouble: fifth gear ratio x rear end ratio for the ultimate, final drive, and it?s obvious that .73 is about all you want with the 3.91 rear and even the 4.10 on the 100/6. And I think even the .73 would be too much with a 3.54 rear; there should be a .88 or so gear for the Tremec T5, which I?d pick that that rear. > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > On Saturday, October 18, 2025, 5:52 PM, Al Fuller wrote: > > The tremec conversion is supposed to be nice, but one of the guys has been waiting for months for them to get that particular gear. > > I've lost track of whether they finally got a batch. > > ________________ > Sent from my phone > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 5:22?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys > wrote: > Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey Sixes and Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and order the .73 fifth gear ratio as the standard .63 is way too steep. Trust me on this! > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs > wrote: > > The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to inquiries than he was. > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan > wrote: > Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If you can find out who does that they might be able to help. > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs > wrote: > Hello > I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. > I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. > My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Oct 19 14:11:55 2025 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 22:11:55 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: <6897DD1F-82DC-4E22-ABDC-E8F5CE7FCA95@gmail.com> References: <448054828.4299847.1760789673037@mail.yahoo.com> <242409350.4560961.1760901169208@mail.yahoo.com> <6897DD1F-82DC-4E22-ABDC-E8F5CE7FCA95@gmail.com> Message-ID: I modified my side shift to accept the Toyota trans. I made an insulated cup holder out of the side shift hole Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 22:08 richard mayor wrote: > By way of comparison, the Toyota W58 fifth gear is .76 and the W59 is .81. > You can move the position of the shift towers on these transmissions to > come out within 1/2? of a Healey center-shift stick. But, you cannot > change the fifth gear to change the ratio. Fifth gear is part of a complete > different set of gears. > > > Richard Mayor > boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > > On Oct 19, 2025, at 12:12?PM, Robert Markovich via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > That .73 gear is essential, and after a couple of miserable weeks with the > .63 gear, I told them so. They were extremely gracious in getting me the > .73 replacement and a local transmission shop made the swap. Sorry to hear > there?s a wait for that gear now, but obviously others came to the same > conclusion that the .63 is way too steep for the Healey. Some simple math > would have saved me some trouble: fifth gear ratio x rear end ratio for the > ultimate, final drive, and it?s obvious that .73 is about all you want with > the 3.91 rear and even the 4.10 on the 100/6. And I think even the .73 > would be too much with a 3.54 rear; there should be a .88 or so gear for > the Tremec T5, which I?d pick that that rear. > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Saturday, October 18, 2025, 5:52 PM, Al Fuller > wrote: > > The tremec conversion is supposed to be nice, but one of the guys has been > waiting for months for them to get that particular gear. > > I've lost track of whether they finally got a batch. > > ________________ > Sent from my phone > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 5:22?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey Sixes and > Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and order the .73 fifth gear > ratio as the standard .63 is way too steep. Trust me on this! > > > Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS > > > On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs wrote: > > The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to > inquiries than he was. > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: > > Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If you > can find out who does that they might be able to help. > > Jim Ryan > > ???? > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: > > Hello > I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. > I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. > My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission > on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. > Thanks > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/boyracer466 at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Sun Oct 19 15:17:35 2025 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 14:17:35 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: <448054828.4299847.1760789673037@mail.yahoo.com> <242409350.4560961.1760901169208@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Which transmission do you have Ira? The Toyota W-58 was the most popular, and on it the transmission drive gear is available in a range of ratios (due to the fact that trans was used in a variety of vehicles). This can be a useful addition, especially since a Healey with a 5-speed likely also has tires different from the stock, and often a changed rear end ratio, too. That drive gear was pretty inexpensive last time I looked. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 12:23?PM i erbs wrote: > There is a shop near me who can rebuild my angle drive so my speedo is > correct for the tires on my car. I need to find my notes. I used a Speedo > app to help calibrate the drive > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 21:12 Robert Markovich wrote: > >> That .73 gear is essential, and after a couple of miserable weeks with >> the .63 gear, I told them so. They were extremely gracious in getting me >> the .73 replacement and a local transmission shop made the swap. Sorry to >> hear there?s a wait for that gear now, but obviously others came to the >> same conclusion that the .63 is way too steep for the Healey. Some simple >> math would have saved me some trouble: fifth gear ratio x rear end ratio >> for the ultimate, final drive, and it?s obvious that .73 is about all you >> want with the 3.91 rear and even the 4.10 on the 100/6. And I think even >> the .73 would be too much with a 3.54 rear; there should be a .88 or so >> gear for the Tremec T5, which I?d pick that that rear. >> >> >> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >> >> >> On Saturday, October 18, 2025, 5:52 PM, Al Fuller >> wrote: >> >> The tremec conversion is supposed to be nice, but one of the guys has >> been waiting for months for them to get that particular gear. >> >> I've lost track of whether they finally got a batch. >> >> ________________ >> Sent from my phone >> Best Regards, >> Al Fuller >> >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 5:22?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys < >> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >> >> Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey Sixes and >> Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and order the .73 fifth gear >> ratio as the standard .63 is way too steep. Trust me on this! >> >> >> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >> >> >> On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs wrote: >> >> The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to >> inquiries than he was. >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: >> >> Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If >> you can find out who does that they might be able to help. >> >> Jim Ryan >> >> ???? >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: >> >> Hello >> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >> Thanks >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Oct 19 14:20:45 2025 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 22:20:45 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: <448054828.4299847.1760789673037@mail.yahoo.com> <242409350.4560961.1760901169208@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It should be a w 58 Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 11:17?PM Al Fuller wrote: > Which transmission do you have Ira? > > The Toyota W-58 was the most popular, and on it the transmission drive > gear is available in a range of ratios (due to the fact that trans was used > in a variety of vehicles). > > This can be a useful addition, especially since a Healey with a 5-speed > likely also has tires different from the stock, and often a changed rear > end ratio, too. > > That drive gear was pretty inexpensive last time I looked. > ________________ > Sent from my phone > Best Regards, > Al Fuller > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 12:23?PM i erbs wrote: > >> There is a shop near me who can rebuild my angle drive so my speedo is >> correct for the tires on my car. I need to find my notes. I used a Speedo >> app to help calibrate the drive >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> >> On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 21:12 Robert Markovich wrote: >> >>> That .73 gear is essential, and after a couple of miserable weeks with >>> the .63 gear, I told them so. They were extremely gracious in getting me >>> the .73 replacement and a local transmission shop made the swap. Sorry to >>> hear there?s a wait for that gear now, but obviously others came to the >>> same conclusion that the .63 is way too steep for the Healey. Some simple >>> math would have saved me some trouble: fifth gear ratio x rear end ratio >>> for the ultimate, final drive, and it?s obvious that .73 is about all you >>> want with the 3.91 rear and even the 4.10 on the 100/6. And I think even >>> the .73 would be too much with a 3.54 rear; there should be a .88 or so >>> gear for the Tremec T5, which I?d pick that that rear. >>> >>> >>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, October 18, 2025, 5:52 PM, Al Fuller >>> wrote: >>> >>> The tremec conversion is supposed to be nice, but one of the guys has >>> been waiting for months for them to get that particular gear. >>> >>> I've lost track of whether they finally got a batch. >>> >>> ________________ >>> Sent from my phone >>> Best Regards, >>> Al Fuller >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 5:22?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys < >>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>> >>> Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey Sixes and >>> Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and order the .73 fifth gear >>> ratio as the standard .63 is way too steep. Trust me on this! >>> >>> >>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >>> >>> >>> On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs >>> wrote: >>> >>> The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to >>> inquiries than he was. >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> Milwaukie, OR >>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: >>> >>> Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If >>> you can find out who does that they might be able to help. >>> >>> Jim Ryan >>> >>> ???? >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: >>> >>> Hello >>> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >>> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >>> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >>> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >>> Thanks >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> Milwaukie, OR >>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>> >>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>> >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmarkovich at aol.com Sun Oct 19 15:29:13 2025 From: rmarkovich at aol.com (Robert Markovich) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 21:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: <448054828.4299847.1760789673037@mail.yahoo.com> <242409350.4560961.1760901169208@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1344026605.4582726.1760909353603@mail.yahoo.com> I had the Smitty kit, now?sold by Pete Delaney, in two of my previous Healeys. The W58 was the one to use, a nicer, shorter throw, more precise trans overall compared with the T5 kit sold by The Driven Man. Trouble is, the W58s are getting hard to find, especially in good condition. The Smitty kit comes sans trans, leaving you to source one and overhaul it as needed, while the T5 kit includes a new transmission, which really isn?t bad and is certainly quite strong. Plus,?adding up?all the costs for parts and trans and any rebuilding needed?brings?the Smitty kit closer in price to the Driven man?s.? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Sunday, October 19, 2025, 5:17 PM, Al Fuller wrote: Which transmission do you have Ira?? The Toyota W-58 was the most popular, and on it the transmission drive gear is available in a range of ratios (due to the fact that trans was used in a variety of vehicles). This can be a useful addition, especially since a Healey with a 5-speed likely also has tires different from the stock, and often a changed rear end ratio, too. That drive gear was pretty inexpensive last time I looked.________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 12:23?PM i erbs wrote: There is a shop near me who can rebuild my angle drive so my speedo is correct for the tires on my car. I need to find my notes. I used a Speedo app to help calibrate the drive? Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 21:12 Robert Markovich wrote: That .73 gear is essential, and after a couple of miserable weeks with the .63 gear, I told them so. They were extremely gracious in getting me the .73 replacement and a local transmission shop made the swap. Sorry to hear there?s a wait for that gear now, but obviously others came to the same conclusion that the .63 is way too steep for the Healey. Some simple math would have saved me some trouble: fifth gear ratio x rear?end ratio for the ultimate, final drive, and it?s obvious that .73 is about all you want with the 3.91 rear and even the 4.10 on the 100/6. And I think even the .73 would be too much with a 3.54 rear; there should be a .88 or so gear for the Tremec T5, which I?d pick that that rear.? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, October 18, 2025, 5:52 PM, Al Fuller wrote: The tremec conversion is supposed to be nice, but one of the guys has been waiting for months for them to get that particular gear. I've lost track of whether they finally got a batch. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 5:22?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys wrote: Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey Sixes and Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and order the .73 fifth gear ratio as the standard .63 is way too steep. Trust me on this! Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs wrote: The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to inquiries than he was. Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup?? If you can find out who does that they might be able to help. Jim Ryan ???? On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: HelloI about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph.I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin.My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to.Thanks? 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Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 21:12 Robert Markovich wrote: That .73 gear is essential, and after a couple of miserable weeks with the .63 gear, I told them so. They were extremely gracious in getting me the .73 replacement and a local transmission shop made the swap. Sorry to hear there?s a wait for that gear now, but obviously others came to the same conclusion that the .63 is way too steep for the Healey. Some simple math would have saved me some trouble: fifth gear ratio x rear?end ratio for the ultimate, final drive, and it?s obvious that .73 is about all you want with the 3.91 rear and even the 4.10 on the 100/6. And I think even the .73 would be too much with a 3.54 rear; there should be a .88 or so gear for the Tremec T5, which I?d pick that that rear.? Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Saturday, October 18, 2025, 5:52 PM, Al Fuller wrote: The tremec conversion is supposed to be nice, but one of the guys has been waiting for months for them to get that particular gear. I've lost track of whether they finally got a batch. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 5:22?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys wrote: Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey Sixes and Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and order the .73 fifth gear ratio as the standard .63 is way too steep. Trust me on this! Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs wrote: The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to inquiries than he was. Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup?? If you can find out who does that they might be able to help. Jim Ryan ???? On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: HelloI about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph.I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin.My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to.Thanks? 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Stephen, BJ8 Sent from my iPad From healeybruce at roadrunner.com Sun Oct 19 15:45:31 2025 From: healeybruce at roadrunner.com (healeybruce at roadrunner.com) Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2025 21:45:31 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. In-Reply-To: <05fe01dc3ad5$19beec20$4d3cc460$@ec.rr.com> References: <003201dc3ac4$21efffd0$65cfff70$@alexarevel.plus.com> <05fe01dc3ad5$19beec20$4d3cc460$@ec.rr.com> Message-ID: I'm installing an expansion tank from an MGB on my BN7. Per Dave Nock, I'm using a 7-pound cap on the radiator and a 10-pound cap on the expansion tank. The car is not back from paint yet, but that's what I'm going with. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of sbyers--- via Healeys Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2025 10:33 AM To: simon.lachlan at alexarevel.plus.com ; 'Healeys' Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. Simon, I have an expansion tank in my BJ8 using the original metal tank from an MG Midget. I also have the stock 7 psi cap on both the radiator and the overflow tank and a clear ?overflow? hose on the radiator neck to the tank. The tank captures any overflow from the radiator and I can see the system operate with the clear tubing. When hot, the flow is out to the tank and back into the radiator as it cools. Excess coolant in the overflow tank can flow out to the ground through the tank overflow connection. Steve Byers BJ8 Registry AHCA Delegate at Large From: Healeys On Behalf Of Simon Lachlan via Healeys Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2025 11:32 AM To: 'Healeys' Subject: [Healeys] Radiator cap with expansion tank. Forgive another stupid question but it?s sensible to be sure???. Am I right in assuming(!) that, if one fits an expansion tank, the standard cap is moved from the radiator to the expansion tank and is replaced by a blanking(?) cap ie one which has no spring, no means of relief etcetc? Seem logical to me but logic has let me down before. 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[cid:image001.png at 01DC3F97.829E5B60] From: Healeys On Behalf Of healeybruce--- via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 17, 2025 4:48 PM To: Al Fuller ; Healey team ; gradea1 at charter.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs In California, they actually passed a law a few years ago making hand signals illegal! ________________________________ From: Healeys > on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2025 9:31 AM To: Al Fuller >; Healey team > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs I still like to use hand signals and since no one else does, they are unique to modern day driving and I believe actually noticed-especially when some high riding 6000 lb pickup gets behind me. Wonder if the DMVs still require one to know what they mean? Hank -------------------- From: "Al Fuller" > To: "AH Mail List" > Sent: October 16, 2025 at 7:02 PM PDT Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bulbs LED stop lights are a great addition to a Healey, making it much easier for other motorists to see and avoid you. Do keep in mind the stock flasher needs a certain amount of resistance to operate correctly, but LED lights have much lower draw. You may wind up needing a solid state flasher to complete the project. They are not expensive. ________________ Sent from my phone Best Regards, Al Fuller On Thu, Oct 16, 2025, 2:08?PM Bob Spidell via Healeys > wrote: Alternator/generator doesn't matter; polarity does. Most alternator conversions require conversion to negative ground--since pos. gnd. alternators aren't common--so just get LEDs with the correct polarity for your car (likely neg. gnd.). The 'D' in LED stands for diode, which block current flow in one direction, so if you get the wrong one the LED won't produce light. In attached photo, 1157 LED is in driver-side (LHD) light; orange tint is camera bias, the light is red. Bob On 10/16/2025 11:47 AM, Don via Healeys wrote: > On my 67 BJ8 . My red rear brake light/running light is a #1157 > They sell a LED bulb as a replacement. 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Best--Michael Oritt On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 7:55?PM i erbs wrote: > It should be a w 58 > > Ira Erbs > Milwaukie, OR > 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 11:17?PM Al Fuller wrote: > >> Which transmission do you have Ira? >> >> The Toyota W-58 was the most popular, and on it the transmission drive >> gear is available in a range of ratios (due to the fact that trans was used >> in a variety of vehicles). >> >> This can be a useful addition, especially since a Healey with a 5-speed >> likely also has tires different from the stock, and often a changed rear >> end ratio, too. >> >> That drive gear was pretty inexpensive last time I looked. >> ________________ >> Sent from my phone >> Best Regards, >> Al Fuller >> >> On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 12:23?PM i erbs wrote: >> >>> There is a shop near me who can rebuild my angle drive so my speedo is >>> correct for the tires on my car. I need to find my notes. I used a Speedo >>> app to help calibrate the drive >>> >>> Ira Erbs >>> Milwaukie, OR >>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 21:12 Robert Markovich wrote: >>> >>>> That .73 gear is essential, and after a couple of miserable weeks with >>>> the .63 gear, I told them so. They were extremely gracious in getting me >>>> the .73 replacement and a local transmission shop made the swap. Sorry to >>>> hear there?s a wait for that gear now, but obviously others came to the >>>> same conclusion that the .63 is way too steep for the Healey. Some simple >>>> math would have saved me some trouble: fifth gear ratio x rear end ratio >>>> for the ultimate, final drive, and it?s obvious that .73 is about all you >>>> want with the 3.91 rear and even the 4.10 on the 100/6. And I think even >>>> the .73 would be too much with a 3.54 rear; there should be a .88 or so >>>> gear for the Tremec T5, which I?d pick that that rear. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, October 18, 2025, 5:52 PM, Al Fuller < >>>> alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The tremec conversion is supposed to be nice, but one of the guys has >>>> been waiting for months for them to get that particular gear. >>>> >>>> I've lost track of whether they finally got a batch. >>>> >>>> ________________ >>>> Sent from my phone >>>> Best Regards, >>>> Al Fuller >>>> >>>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 5:22?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys < >>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey Sixes >>>> and Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and order the .73 fifth >>>> gear ratio as the standard .63 is way too steep. Trust me on this! >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to >>>> inquiries than he was. >>>> >>>> Ira Erbs >>>> Milwaukie, OR >>>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: >>>> >>>> Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If >>>> you can find out who does that they might be able to help. >>>> >>>> Jim Ryan >>>> >>>> ???? >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello >>>> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >>>> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >>>> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >>>> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Ira Erbs >>>> Milwaukie, OR >>>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll look at the link Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 3:39?AM Michael Oritt wrote: > There are several sites on identifying various W-series > transmissions--here's:the Wiki page > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_W_transmission > > I was fortunate to get a later W58 which is easy to identify by the steel > plate sandwich. > They were used in non-Turbo Supras which developed 200 or so HP--plenty > strong for a Healey. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 7:55?PM i erbs wrote: > >> It should be a w 58 >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> >> On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 11:17?PM Al Fuller wrote: >> >>> Which transmission do you have Ira? >>> >>> The Toyota W-58 was the most popular, and on it the transmission drive >>> gear is available in a range of ratios (due to the fact that trans was used >>> in a variety of vehicles). >>> >>> This can be a useful addition, especially since a Healey with a 5-speed >>> likely also has tires different from the stock, and often a changed rear >>> end ratio, too. >>> >>> That drive gear was pretty inexpensive last time I looked. >>> ________________ >>> Sent from my phone >>> Best Regards, >>> Al Fuller >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 12:23?PM i erbs wrote: >>> >>>> There is a shop near me who can rebuild my angle drive so my speedo is >>>> correct for the tires on my car. I need to find my notes. I used a Speedo >>>> app to help calibrate the drive >>>> >>>> Ira Erbs >>>> Milwaukie, OR >>>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 21:12 Robert Markovich >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That .73 gear is essential, and after a couple of miserable weeks with >>>>> the .63 gear, I told them so. They were extremely gracious in getting me >>>>> the .73 replacement and a local transmission shop made the swap. Sorry to >>>>> hear there?s a wait for that gear now, but obviously others came to the >>>>> same conclusion that the .63 is way too steep for the Healey. Some simple >>>>> math would have saved me some trouble: fifth gear ratio x rear end ratio >>>>> for the ultimate, final drive, and it?s obvious that .73 is about all you >>>>> want with the 3.91 rear and even the 4.10 on the 100/6. And I think even >>>>> the .73 would be too much with a 3.54 rear; there should be a .88 or so >>>>> gear for the Tremec T5, which I?d pick that that rear. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, October 18, 2025, 5:52 PM, Al Fuller < >>>>> alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The tremec conversion is supposed to be nice, but one of the guys has >>>>> been waiting for months for them to get that particular gear. >>>>> >>>>> I've lost track of whether they finally got a batch. >>>>> >>>>> ________________ >>>>> Sent from my phone >>>>> Best Regards, >>>>> Al Fuller >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 5:22?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys < >>>>> healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey Sixes >>>>> and Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and order the .73 fifth >>>>> gear ratio as the standard .63 is way too steep. Trust me on this! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to >>>>> inquiries than he was. >>>>> >>>>> Ira Erbs >>>>> Milwaukie, OR >>>>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If >>>>> you can find out who does that they might be able to help. >>>>> >>>>> Jim Ryan >>>>> >>>>> ???? >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello >>>>> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >>>>> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >>>>> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >>>>> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Ira Erbs >>>>> Milwaukie, OR >>>>> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>> >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >>>>> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>> >>>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Mon Oct 20 13:10:01 2025 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 19:10:01 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: <448054828.4299847.1760789673037@mail.yahoo.com> <242409350.4560961.1760901169208@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Michael: What you say about identifying a W58 by its steel sandwich plate is correct, but unfortunately a little incomplete. It turns out Toyota produced a number of W58 variants with differing gear ratios, but did not put the identifier on the gearbox. Instead, it was on a tag on the car or truck! Unfortunately, most people didn't realize this when pulling transmissions out of vehicles, so it's not clear on inspection which particular gearbox one has. Luckily, the gear ratios are not that hard to measure by turning the input shaft and measuring the outputs of the various gears... As such, someone thinking about grabbing a W58 gearbox would be well advised to know what gear ratio set they want [or, are willing to accept] and check the subject donor trans before committing to it. =========================== Al Fuller 714.335.0248 Mobile ------ Original Message ------ >From "Michael Oritt" To "i erbs" Cc "Al Fuller" ; "Ahealey help" Date 10/19/2025 6:39:25 PM Subject Re: [Healeys] Smitty kit >There are several sites on identifying various W-series >transmissions--here's:the Wiki page > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_W_transmission > >I was fortunate to get a later W58 which is easy to identify by the >steel plate sandwich. >They were used in non-Turbo Supras which developed 200 or so HP--plenty >strong for a Healey. > >Best--Michael Oritt > >On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 7:55?PM i erbs wrote: >>It should be a w 58 >> >>Ira Erbs >>Milwaukie, OR >>1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> >>On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 11:17?PM Al Fuller >>wrote: >>>Which transmission do you have Ira? >>> >>>The Toyota W-58 was the most popular, and on it the transmission >>>drive gear is available in a range of ratios (due to the fact that >>>trans was used in a variety of vehicles). >>> >>>This can be a useful addition, especially since a Healey with a >>>5-speed likely also has tires different from the stock, and often a >>>changed rear end ratio, too. >>> >>>That drive gear was pretty inexpensive last time I looked. >>>________________ >>>Sent from my phone >>>Best Regards, >>>Al Fuller >>> >>>On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 12:23?PM i erbs wrote: >>>>There is a shop near me who can rebuild my angle drive so my speedo >>>>is correct for the tires on my car. I need to find my notes. I used >>>>a Speedo app to help calibrate the drive >>>> >>>>Ira Erbs >>>>Milwaukie, OR >>>>1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>>> >>>>On Sun, Oct 19, 2025, 21:12 Robert Markovich >>>>wrote: >>>>>That .73 gear is essential, and after a couple of miserable weeks >>>>>with the .63 gear, I told them so. They were extremely gracious in >>>>>getting me the .73 replacement and a local transmission shop made >>>>>the swap. Sorry to hear there?s a wait for that gear now, but >>>>>obviously others came to the same conclusion that the .63 is way >>>>>too steep for the Healey. Some simple math would have saved me some >>>>>trouble: fifth gear ratio x rear end ratio for the ultimate, final >>>>>drive, and it?s obvious that .73 is about all you want with the >>>>>3.91 rear and even the 4.10 on the 100/6. And I think even the .73 >>>>>would be too much with a 3.54 rear; there should be a .88 or so >>>>>gear for the Tremec T5, which I?d pick that that rear. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Saturday, October 18, 2025, 5:52 PM, Al Fuller >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>The tremec conversion is supposed to be nice, but one of the guys >>>>>>has been waiting for months for them to get that particular gear. >>>>>> >>>>>>I've lost track of whether they finally got a batch. >>>>>> >>>>>>________________ >>>>>>Sent from my phone >>>>>>Best Regards, >>>>>>Al Fuller >>>>>> >>>>>>On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 5:22?AM Robert Markovich via Healeys >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>Try The Driven Man in Cooksville TN. They make kits for Healey >>>>>>>Sixes and Jags using a brand new Tremec T5. Just be sure and >>>>>>>order the .73 fifth gear ratio as the standard .63 is way too >>>>>>>steep. Trust me on this! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On Friday, October 17, 2025, 8:33 PM, i erbs >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive >>>>>>>>to inquiries than he was. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Ira Erbs >>>>>>>>Milwaukie, OR >>>>>>>>1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: >>>>>>>>>Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this >>>>>>>>>setup? If you can find out who does that they might be able to >>>>>>>>>help. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Jim Ryan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>???? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs >>>>>>>>>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>Hello >>>>>>>>>>I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >>>>>>>>>>I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not >>>>>>>>>>spin. >>>>>>>>>>My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >>>>>>>>>>transmission on one end and British on the other that the >>>>>>>>>>cable attached to. >>>>>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Ira Erbs >>>>>>>>>>Milwaukie, OR >>>>>>>>>>1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>>>>>>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Archive: >>>>>>>>>>http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>>>>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>>>>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>>>>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Archive: >>>>>>>>http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovich at aol.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>>>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Archive: >>>>>>>http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/alfuller194 at gmail.com >>>>>>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >>Archive: >>http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >>Healeys at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Mon Oct 20 13:24:25 2025 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 19:24:25 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: <1784158382.4415360.1760827061416@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Wow, that was quite the trip!! It must have been upwards of what, 6,000 miles?!? Are you driving to the 2027 Tahoe meet? =========================== Al Fuller 714.335.0248 Mobile ------ Original Message ------ >From "Michael Oritt" To "Ray Juncal" Cc "Ahealey help" ; "i erbs" Date 10/19/2025 4:59:13 AM Subject Re: [Healeys] Smitty kit >After driving my 100 from MD to Tahoe for Open Roads 2002 I continued >on to the PCH to drive down to LA to see family before heading home. >Some place around Lompoc 2nd gear broke and I realized it was going to >be a long trip back east with only 1st and 3rd. I called Smitty and >fortunately he had both a kit and a freshly overhauled Toyota W58 on >hand. He lent me the use of his lift, tools and knowledge and two days >later I drove out with an operative 5-speed transmission which got me >back to MD. Smitty was a wonderful guy, always willing to help. > >Best--Michael Oritt > >On Sat, Oct 18, 2025 at 9:41?PM Ray Juncal via Healeys > wrote: >>I always had a good rapport with Smitty, crusty as he was. But then >>I'd just go out to his shop and bother him while he stuffed a full >>blown air conditioner under the dash or something. >> >>On Saturday, October 18, 2025 at 12:47:04 AM PDT, i erbs >> wrote: >> >> >>Yup >>Why buy a biz if you don't want to help people buy your products? >>Just bizarre >> >>Ira Erbs >>Milwaukie, OR >>1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> >>On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 00:45 Tom Mitchell wrote: >>>If you mean by less responsive, less helpful, less willing to help, >>>yes! >>>Tom >>> >>>Dr. Mitchell's Gmail >>> >>> >>>On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 5:41?PM i erbs wrote: >>>>The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to >>>>inquiries than he was. >>>> >>>>Ira Erbs >>>>Milwaukie, OR >>>>1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>>> >>>>On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: >>>>>Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? >>>>>If you can find out who does that they might be able to help. >>>>> >>>>>Jim Ryan >>>>> >>>>>???? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: >>>>>>Hello >>>>>>I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >>>>>>I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not >>>>>>spin. >>>>>>My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >>>>>>transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable >>>>>>attached to. >>>>>>Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>>Ira Erbs >>>>>>Milwaukie, OR >>>>>>1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>>>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>> >>>>>>Archive: >>>>>>http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>>Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>>>> >>>>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >>>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>>Archive: >>>>http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >>>> >>>>Healeys at autox.team.net >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >>>> >>>>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drtommitch at gmail.com >>>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >>Archive: >>http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >>Healeys at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >>Archive: >>http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeyshttp://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >>Healeys at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >>Unsubscribe/Manage: >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Mon Oct 20 12:28:54 2025 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 20:28:54 +0200 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: <1784158382.4415360.1760827061416@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It was a bit more than 3k I plan to drive my car to Tahoe. I have a $100 deposit down. A bunch of Oregon folks might caravan together. I enjoyed the freedom of the solo trip. Ira Erbs Milwaukie, OR 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 On Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 9:24?PM Al Fuller wrote: > Wow, that was quite the trip!! It must have been upwards of what, 6,000 > miles?!? Are you driving to the 2027 Tahoe meet? > > > =========================== > Al Fuller > 714.335.0248 Mobile > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From "Michael Oritt" > To "Ray Juncal" > Cc "Ahealey help" ; "i erbs" > Date 10/19/2025 4:59:13 AM > Subject Re: [Healeys] Smitty kit > > After driving my 100 from MD to Tahoe for Open Roads 2002 I continued on > to the PCH to drive down to LA to see family before heading home. Some > place around Lompoc 2nd gear broke and I realized it was going to be a long > trip back east with only 1st and 3rd. I called Smitty and fortunately he > had both a kit and a freshly overhauled Toyota W58 on hand. He lent me > the use of his lift, tools and knowledge and two days later I drove out > with an operative 5-speed transmission which got me back to MD. Smitty was > a wonderful guy, always willing to help. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2025 at 9:41?PM Ray Juncal via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I always had a good rapport with Smitty, crusty as he was. But then I'd >> just go out to his shop and bother him while he stuffed a full blown air >> conditioner under the dash or something. >> >> On Saturday, October 18, 2025 at 12:47:04 AM PDT, i erbs < >> eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Yup >> Why buy a biz if you don't want to help people buy your products? >> Just bizarre >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 00:45 Tom Mitchell wrote: >> >> If you mean by less responsive, less helpful, less willing to help, yes! >> Tom >> >> Dr. Mitchell's Gmail >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 5:41?PM i erbs wrote: >> >> The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to >> inquiries than he was. >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: >> >> Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If >> you can find out who does that they might be able to help. >> >> Jim Ryan >> >> ???? >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: >> >> Hello >> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >> Thanks >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drtommitch at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Mon Oct 20 19:06:05 2025 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 21:06:05 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Smitty kit In-Reply-To: References: <1784158382.4415360.1760827061416@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Al-- Yes, it something over 6K and but for the broken transmission it was pretty much trouble-free! I dunno about Tahoe in 2027 but I am planning on driving to Galena ILnext year,. Best--Michael Oritt On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 3:24?PM Al Fuller wrote: > Wow, that was quite the trip!! It must have been upwards of what, 6,000 > miles?!? Are you driving to the 2027 Tahoe meet? > > > =========================== > Al Fuller > 714.335.0248 Mobile > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From "Michael Oritt" > To "Ray Juncal" > Cc "Ahealey help" ; "i erbs" > Date 10/19/2025 4:59:13 AM > Subject Re: [Healeys] Smitty kit > > After driving my 100 from MD to Tahoe for Open Roads 2002 I continued on > to the PCH to drive down to LA to see family before heading home. Some > place around Lompoc 2nd gear broke and I realized it was going to be a long > trip back east with only 1st and 3rd. I called Smitty and fortunately he > had both a kit and a freshly overhauled Toyota W58 on hand. He lent me > the use of his lift, tools and knowledge and two days later I drove out > with an operative 5-speed transmission which got me back to MD. Smitty was > a wonderful guy, always willing to help. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > On Sat, Oct 18, 2025 at 9:41?PM Ray Juncal via Healeys < > healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > >> I always had a good rapport with Smitty, crusty as he was. But then I'd >> just go out to his shop and bother him while he stuffed a full blown air >> conditioner under the dash or something. >> >> On Saturday, October 18, 2025 at 12:47:04 AM PDT, i erbs < >> eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Yup >> Why buy a biz if you don't want to help people buy your products? >> Just bizarre >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> >> On Sat, Oct 18, 2025, 00:45 Tom Mitchell wrote: >> >> If you mean by less responsive, less helpful, less willing to help, yes! >> Tom >> >> Dr. Mitchell's Gmail >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 5:41?PM i erbs wrote: >> >> The guy who bought the biz from Smitty is even less responsive to >> inquiries than he was. >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 21:49 Jim Ryan wrote: >> >> Aren't they're people that sell the conversion kit for this setup? If >> you can find out who does that they might be able to help. >> >> Jim Ryan >> >> ???? >> >> On Fri, Oct 17, 2025, 4:08?PM i erbs wrote: >> >> Hello >> I about to start figuring out why my speedo stopped at 70mph. >> I pulled it and drove for a while but the inner cable did not spin. >> My question is where do I source and angle drive for a Toyota >> transmission on one end and British on the other that the cable attached to. >> Thanks >> >> Ira Erbs >> Milwaukie, OR >> 1959 Austin Healey 100-6 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/ryan at jimryan.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/drtommitch at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyray at yahoo.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michael.oritt at gmail.com >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From michael.oritt at gmail.com Tue Oct 21 17:54:27 2025 From: michael.oritt at gmail.com (Michael Oritt) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 19:54:27 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Toggle switch needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Al-- I normally drive with lights on both day and night and have rewired the dash pull switch (Off > Sidelights > Headlights) so that it is fed from the switched side of the key switch. I'll simply be replacing the floor-mounted dimmer with this dash-mounted toggle which will provide the added ability to momentarily flash high beams. On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 6:39?PM Al Fuller wrote: > I would think either DigiKey or Mauser would be good starting points. > > Just out of curiosity, what application would need On / On / On-Momentary > -- but no way to turn the circuit[s] connected to the switch off? > > > =========================== > Al Fuller > 714.335.0248 Mobile > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From "Michael Oritt" > To "Healeys at Autox" > Date 10/21/2025 12:54:20 PM > Subject [Healeys] Toggle switch needed > > I am looking for a toggle switch with "On-On-Momentary On" configuration. > > Any suggestions or resources will be appreciated. > > Best--Michael Oritt > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Tue Oct 21 19:41:19 2025 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller) Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 01:41:19 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Toggle switch needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Aha - makes sense! It's something I probably should have done while I was re-wiring the BJ-8's light switching to accommodate 2-stage cockpit/map lights. The car is likely much more visible with the lights on, like modern cars with daytime running lights. =========================== Al Fuller 714.335.0248 Mobile ------ Original Message ------ >From "Michael Oritt" To "Al Fuller" Cc "Healeys at Autox" Date 10/21/2025 4:54:27 PM Subject Re: [Healeys] Toggle switch needed >Al-- > >I normally drive with lights on both day and night and have rewired the >dash pull switch (Off > Sidelights > Headlights) so that it is fed from >the switched side of the key switch. >I'll simply be replacing the floor-mounted dimmer with this >dash-mounted toggle which will provide the added ability to momentarily >flash high beams. > >On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 6:39?PM Al Fuller >wrote: >>I would think either DigiKey or Mauser would be good starting points. >> >>Just out of curiosity, what application would need On / On / >>On-Momentary -- but no way to turn the circuit[s] connected to the >>switch off? >> >> >>=========================== >>Al Fuller >>714.335.0248 Mobile >> >> >>------ Original Message ------ >>From "Michael Oritt" >>To "Healeys at Autox" >>Date 10/21/2025 12:54:20 PM >>Subject [Healeys] Toggle switch needed >> >>>I am looking for a toggle switch with "On-On-Momentary On" >>>configuration. >>> >>>Any suggestions or resources will be appreciated. >>> >>>Best--Michael Oritt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From craiginchico at gmail.com Fri Oct 24 16:01:48 2025 From: craiginchico at gmail.com (Craig Cooper) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 15:01:48 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Healeys Digest, Vol 18, Issue 181 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Re: Right front fender Michael: If you go through completed BN2 sales on Bring a Trailer, I think you will find two or three that have a BN1 fender on one side or the other. Tracking down the buyer could be tricky, but not impossible. I'll also contact a couple of guys I know who have BN1 front fenders and suggest they contact you if they have what you need and are willing to part with it. I wonder if there will be a tariff issue going either way, US to Canada. Craig On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 11:01?AM wrote: > Send Healeys mailing list submissions to > healeys at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > healeys-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > healeys-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Healeys digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Left front frnder (Michael Salter) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Michael Salter > To: "healeys at autox.team.net" > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 13:06:27 +0000 > Subject: [Healeys] Left front frnder > I know that this is a long shot but, who knows. > The 100 that I'm currently restoring has what is essentially an NOS BN1 > left front fender on it. Unfortunately the car is a BN2 !! > Before I start cutting up the BN1 fender to increase the height of the > wheel arch I was wondering if anyone has the same problem with a BN1 in > that they require a left front fender but have a BN2 type. > As I said, a long shot!! > > M > > > > _______________________________________________ > Healeys mailing list > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > archives: http://autox.team.net/archive > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Oct 24 18:41:36 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 17:41:36 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum Message-ID: <661c38b7-7e16-4a31-9f52-6c7a4cef7a64@comcast.net> Listers, I have a problem with my BJ8's overdrive that defies conventional logic: The O/D will not engage when the drivetrain is cold, but begins to function more-or-less normally as the drivetrain gets fully heated-up (15-20m on a warm day). I've checked the functioning of the electricals; i.e. when not running I can a) disconnect the coil ground so as not to fry the Pertonix Ignitor, b) place the gearbox in 3rd or 4th and c) close either, or both, the dash switch and/or the switch on the shift knob --they're wired in parallel so either one will engage the O/D, but both need to be in off/open condition to disengage--and I can hear the solenoid click firmly (this pretty much rules out the switches). I have already replaced the scuttle relay to no effect (I have had them get flaky). AFAIK, the throttle/'kickdown' switch only comes into play when disengaging, and seems to work when the O/D does engage. My thinking is, if the pump is failed or failing the O/D might work when the fluid is cold but cease to function as the fluid heats up and thins out (I've used Redline MT-90 successfully for over 100K miles or more; it's equivalent to 50wt engine oil). But, the O/D not engaging when cold (somewhat) refutes this theory. If the outlet check valve on the pump was somehow boogered I would expect either a) cold function only, or b) no function at all. Ditto the solenoid; I'd expect it to get flakey when hot and it does 'click' reliably (when cold). I can imagine the lever on the operating cam slipping, but wouldn't expect that to vary with temperature (or to work at all, actually). Actuating shaft lift was correctly set at rebuild. I do have a DWM 'uprated' accumulator installed, and the O/D engages within 2 seconds when it functions. Anyone had this condition, or have a theory as to why it behaves this way? Next step would be to remove the console and confirm I have good oil pressure (but if I do, then what?). TIA, Bob From michael.salter at gmail.com Fri Oct 24 21:00:43 2025 From: michael.salter at gmail.com (Michael Salter) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 03:00:43 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum In-Reply-To: <661c38b7-7e16-4a31-9f52-6c7a4cef7a64@comcast.net> References: <661c38b7-7e16-4a31-9f52-6c7a4cef7a64@comcast.net> Message-ID: That does defy logic Bob. Can you give a little history, has it always been this way or did you change something? Did the problem develop slowly or over time? Anything else that may be relevant? M ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 8:41:36 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum Listers, I have a problem with my BJ8's overdrive that defies conventional logic: The O/D will not engage when the drivetrain is cold, but begins to function more-or-less normally as the drivetrain gets fully heated-up (15-20m on a warm day). I've checked the functioning of the electricals; i.e. when not running I can a) disconnect the coil ground so as not to fry the Pertonix Ignitor, b) place the gearbox in 3rd or 4th and c) close either, or both, the dash switch and/or the switch on the shift knob --they're wired in parallel so either one will engage the O/D, but both need to be in off/open condition to disengage--and I can hear the solenoid click firmly (this pretty much rules out the switches). I have already replaced the scuttle relay to no effect (I have had them get flaky). AFAIK, the throttle/'kickdown' switch only comes into play when disengaging, and seems to work when the O/D does engage. My thinking is, if the pump is failed or failing the O/D might work when the fluid is cold but cease to function as the fluid heats up and thins out (I've used Redline MT-90 successfully for over 100K miles or more; it's equivalent to 50wt engine oil). But, the O/D not engaging when cold (somewhat) refutes this theory. If the outlet check valve on the pump was somehow boogered I would expect either a) cold function only, or b) no function at all. Ditto the solenoid; I'd expect it to get flakey when hot and it does 'click' reliably (when cold). I can imagine the lever on the operating cam slipping, but wouldn't expect that to vary with temperature (or to work at all, actually). Actuating shaft lift was correctly set at rebuild. I do have a DWM 'uprated' accumulator installed, and the O/D engages within 2 seconds when it functions. Anyone had this condition, or have a theory as to why it behaves this way? Next step would be to remove the console and confirm I have good oil pressure (but if I do, then what?). TIA, Bob _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Fri Oct 24 22:22:34 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 21:22:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum In-Reply-To: References: <661c38b7-7e16-4a31-9f52-6c7a4cef7a64@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9af9f676-d4ea-45a3-94da-4aa6f9902fbe@comcast.net> Hi Michael, I rebuilt the gearbox and O/D probably about 7-8 years or so ago. I've probably put close to 10K miles on it since, but not too many since I moved to the Central Valley. For the last few years it's been mostly short and day trips every month or two so, it's been mostly sedentary. A few months ago I took it out for a spin and noticed the O/D wouldn't engage at first but would start working normally after maybe 20 minutes of driving. In subsequent runs it's more not engaging, until a few days ago I'd decided I would likely have to pull the gearbox and O/D, but had to pull it out to get it off the QuickJack underneath it and, to my surprise it started to work OK again after 15-20 miles. I rebuilt the O/D myself, and I think I did OK except I may not have gotten the planetary gears depth exactly right; I didn't have a selection of thrust washers to try so I just put the existing one back in. The only thing I changed out was the thrust ring bearing, which might have been a different width. The unit did have a very slight vibration, barely noticeable through the floorboards but otherwise operated perfectly. Now, when it works, it seems fine. When I rebuilt the gearbox the rearmost thrust washer was whacked (see pic), but of course I replaced it (how that could happen and why the O/D worked is another mystery). I couldn't get the GB and O/D to mate up so I took them to BCS where David Nock got them together and set the operating shaft lift. Besides trying a new relay at Tom Monaco's suggestion I haven't done anything else to it. Only thing I can guess is maybe the lever that the solenoid lifts to turn the valve operating cam maybe slips sometimes and not others. Bob On 10/24/2025 8:00 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > That does defy logic Bob. > Can you give a little history, has it always been this way or did you > change something? Did the problem develop slowly or over time? > Anything else that may be relevant? > > M > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys on behalf of Bob > Spidell via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2025 8:41:36 PM > *To:* Healeys > *Subject:* [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum > Listers, > > I have a problem with my BJ8's overdrive that defies conventional logic: > The O/D will not engage when the drivetrain is cold, but begins to > function more-or-less normally as the drivetrain gets fully heated-up > (15-20m on a warm day). I've checked the functioning of the electricals; > i.e. when not running I can a) disconnect the coil ground so as not to > fry the Pertonix Ignitor, b) place the gearbox in 3rd or 4th and c) > close either, or both, the dash switch and/or the switch on the shift > knob --they're wired in parallel so either one will engage the O/D, but > both need to be in off/open condition to disengage--and I can hear the > solenoid click firmly (this pretty much rules out the switches). I have > already replaced the scuttle relay to no effect (I have had them get > flaky). AFAIK, the throttle/'kickdown' switch only comes into play when > disengaging, and seems to work when the O/D does engage. > > My thinking is, if the pump is failed or failing the O/D might work when > the fluid is cold but cease to function as the fluid heats up and thins > out (I've used Redline MT-90 successfully for over 100K miles or more; > it's equivalent to 50wt engine oil). But, the O/D not engaging when cold > (somewhat) refutes this theory. If the outlet check valve on the pump > was somehow boogered I would expect either a) cold function only, or b) > no function at all. Ditto the solenoid; I'd expect it to get flakey when > hot and it does 'click' reliably (when cold). I can imagine the lever on > the operating cam slipping, but wouldn't expect that to vary with > temperature (or to work at all, actually). Actuating shaft lift was > correctly set at rebuild. I do have a DWM 'uprated' accumulator > installed, and the O/D engages within 2 seconds when it functions. > > Anyone had this condition, or have a theory as to why it behaves this > way? Next step would be to remove the console and confirm I have good > oil pressure (but if I do, then what?). > > TIA, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Seems your OD might have something binding after it heats up due to expansion but I would think that to be very odd and can't think what it could be. ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 9:41:36 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum Listers, I have a problem with my BJ8's overdrive that defies conventional logic: The O/D will not engage when the drivetrain is cold, but begins to function more-or-less normally as the drivetrain gets fully heated-up (15-20m on a warm day). I've checked the functioning of the electricals; i.e. when not running I can a) disconnect the coil ground so as not to fry the Pertonix Ignitor, b) place the gearbox in 3rd or 4th and c) close either, or both, the dash switch and/or the switch on the shift knob --they're wired in parallel so either one will engage the O/D, but both need to be in off/open condition to disengage--and I can hear the solenoid click firmly (this pretty much rules out the switches). I have already replaced the scuttle relay to no effect (I have had them get flaky). AFAIK, the throttle/'kickdown' switch only comes into play when disengaging, and seems to work when the O/D does engage. My thinking is, if the pump is failed or failing the O/D might work when the fluid is cold but cease to function as the fluid heats up and thins out (I've used Redline MT-90 successfully for over 100K miles or more; it's equivalent to 50wt engine oil). But, the O/D not engaging when cold (somewhat) refutes this theory. If the outlet check valve on the pump was somehow boogered I would expect either a) cold function only, or b) no function at all. Ditto the solenoid; I'd expect it to get flakey when hot and it does 'click' reliably (when cold). I can imagine the lever on the operating cam slipping, but wouldn't expect that to vary with temperature (or to work at all, actually). Actuating shaft lift was correctly set at rebuild. I do have a DWM 'uprated' accumulator installed, and the O/D engages within 2 seconds when it functions. Anyone had this condition, or have a theory as to why it behaves this way? Next step would be to remove the console and confirm I have good oil pressure (but if I do, then what?). TIA, Bob _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/jmsdarch at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From healeyrik at gmail.com Sat Oct 25 07:48:46 2025 From: healeyrik at gmail.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 09:48:46 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Left front frnder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: IIRC, weren't here instances of some BN2s delivered from the factory with a BN1 fender on one side and a BN2 fender on the other? I suppose it could also be a damaged BN2 fender being replaced after an accident with a BN1 one that was kept in spares. On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 9:39?AM Michael Salter wrote: > I know that this is a long shot but, who knows. > The 100 that I'm currently restoring has what is essentially an NOS BN1 > left front fender on it. Unfortunately the car is a BN2 !! > Before I start cutting up the BN1 fender to increase the height of the > wheel arch I was wondering if anyone has the same problem with a BN1 in > that they require a left front fender but have a BN2 type. > As I said, a long shot!! > > M > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com Sat Oct 25 08:49:30 2025 From: vintage_roadster_restoration at hotmail.com (Jean Caron) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 14:49:30 +0000 Subject: [Healeys] Left front frnder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here's a copy of an Austin Service Journal about the use of a BN1 front wing on a BN2. Jean ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of HealeyRick Sent: October 25, 2025 1:48 PM To: Michael Salter Cc: healeys at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Healeys] Left front frnder IIRC, weren't here instances of some BN2s delivered from the factory with a BN1 fender on one side and a BN2 fender on the other? I suppose it could also be a damaged BN2 fender being replaced after an accident with a BN1 one that was kept in spares. On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 9:39?AM Michael Salter > wrote: I know that this is a long shot but, who knows. The 100 that I'm currently restoring has what is essentially an NOS BN1 left front fender on it. Unfortunately the car is a BN2 !! Before I start cutting up the BN1 fender to increase the height of the wheel arch I was wondering if anyone has the same problem with a BN1 in that they require a left front fender but have a BN2 type. As I said, a long shot!! M _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeyrik at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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M ________________________________ From: Hank Leach Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2025 12:52:20 PM To: Michael Salter ; Bob Spidell ; Healey team Subject: RE: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum The required clearance for the sunwheel is .016-.020" If you swapped out the bearing there could be a difference from original. Moss and AH Spares sell the various sized steel washers depending on the reading you get. Typically, after many miles, that rear bronze washer is cracked or worn and should be replaced. The factory(when there was one) recommended to only use 30W Non Detergent oil as others tended to foam and cause pressure issues. Also to be sure it is properly topped up- #1-key reason to not work. Before you tear it down, why not just change the oil as recommended and see if there is a difference-easiest fix at this point. If not the problem then it needs to come out and repair. Hank -------------------- From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" Reply-To: "Bob Spidell" To: "Michael Salter" , "Healeys" Sent: October 24, 2025 at 9:38 PM PDT Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum Hi Michael, I rebuilt the gearbox and O/D probably about 7-8 years or so ago. I've probably put close to 10K miles on it since, but not too many since I moved to the Central Valley. For the last few years it's been mostly short and day trips every month or two so, it's been mostly sedentary. A few months ago I took it out for a spin and noticed the O/D wouldn't engage at first but would start working normally after maybe 20 minutes of driving. In subsequent runs it's more not engaging, until a few days ago I'd decided I would likely have to pull the gearbox and O/D, but had to pull it out to get it off the QuickJack underneath it and, to my surprise it started to work OK again after 15-20 miles. I rebuilt the O/D myself, and I think I did OK except I may not have gotten the planetary gears depth exactly right; I didn't have a selection of thrust washers to try so I just put the existing one back in. The only thing I changed out was the thrust ring bearing, which might have been a different width. The unit did have a very slight vibration, barely noticeable through the floorboards but otherwise operated perfectly. Now, when it works, it seems fine. When I rebuilt the gearbox the rearmost thrust washer was whacked (see pic), but of course I replaced it (how that could happen and why the O/D worked is another mystery). I couldn't get the GB and O/D to mate up so I took them to BCS where David Nock got them together and set the operating shaft lift. Besides trying a new relay at Tom Monaco's suggestion I haven't done anything else to it. Only thing I can guess is maybe the lever that the solenoid lifts to turn the valve operating cam maybe slips sometimes and not others. Bob On 10/24/2025 8:00 PM, Michael Salter wrote: That does defy logic Bob. Can you give a little history, has it always been this way or did you change something? Did the problem develop slowly or over time? Anything else that may be relevant? M ________________________________ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 8:41:36 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum Listers, I have a problem with my BJ8's overdrive that defies conventional logic: The O/D will not engage when the drivetrain is cold, but begins to function more-or-less normally as the drivetrain gets fully heated-up (15-20m on a warm day). I've checked the functioning of the electricals; i.e. when not running I can a) disconnect the coil ground so as not to fry the Pertonix Ignitor, b) place the gearbox in 3rd or 4th and c) close either, or both, the dash switch and/or the switch on the shift knob --they're wired in parallel so either one will engage the O/D, but both need to be in off/open condition to disengage--and I can hear the solenoid click firmly (this pretty much rules out the switches). I have already replaced the scuttle relay to no effect (I have had them get flaky). AFAIK, the throttle/'kickdown' switch only comes into play when disengaging, and seems to work when the O/D does engage. My thinking is, if the pump is failed or failing the O/D might work when the fluid is cold but cease to function as the fluid heats up and thins out (I've used Redline MT-90 successfully for over 100K miles or more; it's equivalent to 50wt engine oil). But, the O/D not engaging when cold (somewhat) refutes this theory. If the outlet check valve on the pump was somehow boogered I would expect either a) cold function only, or b) no function at all. Ditto the solenoid; I'd expect it to get flakey when hot and it does 'click' reliably (when cold). I can imagine the lever on the operating cam slipping, but wouldn't expect that to vary with temperature (or to work at all, actually). Actuating shaft lift was correctly set at rebuild. I do have a DWM 'uprated' accumulator installed, and the O/D engages within 2 seconds when it functions. Anyone had this condition, or have a theory as to why it behaves this way? Next step would be to remove the console and confirm I have good oil pressure (but if I do, then what?). 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Bruce Peters Bakersfield, CA Rv9aplane at gmail.com Sent from my iPad From bspidell at comcast.net Sat Oct 25 15:42:34 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 14:42:34 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ad3c3f6-5e36-4eaa-83de-601edccc2f3c@comcast.net> Thanks Hank and Michael. Here's the recommendations from the Bentley reprint of the shop manual for the 6-cyl cars. It appears to me the recommendations changed with the evolution of lubricant technology. Another lister mentioned, in a PM, that he got the same symptoms when his solenoid/cross shaft enclose filled with oil due to a failed O-ring. After over 100K miles of running MT-90 in my gearbox the gears showed no appreciable wear and no sediment in the bottom of the box. The layshaft, however, was worn at the ends, so I replaced with a DWM 'uprated' shaft. Getting the right thickness of thrust washer required, IIRC, stacking of washers to get a gap in the enclosure, then doing a little math to determine the required thickness of washer to close the gap. I couldn't find a suitably sized washer--big enough for the mainshaft, but small enough to fit--to get a measurement, so I went with the existing washer, which was still in good shape. I think the way Magnus Karlson does it, by getting the measurement then machining a washer to the correct thickness is ideal. Bob On 10/25/2025 10:42 AM, Michael Salter wrote: > Hank, I have never be able to find any recommendation from Laycock De > Normanville which recommend any particular oil for one of their > overdrive units. > I wrote to the company (back in the day when one sent letters through > the mail, many decades ago) and asked what lubricant they recommended > and they replied that the lubricant was specified by the gearbox > manufacturer. > This 30 weight non-detergent thing is nothing more than an "old wives > tale". > > M > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Hank Leach > *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2025 12:52:20 PM > *To:* Michael Salter ; Bob Spidell > ; Healey team > *Subject:* RE: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum > The required clearance for the sunwheel is .016-.020" If you swapped > out the bearing there could be a difference from original. Moss and AH > Spares sell the various sized steel washers depending on the reading > you get. Typically, after many miles, that rear bronze washer is > cracked or worn and should be replaced. > The factory(when there was one) recommended to only use 30W Non > Detergent oil as others tended to foam and cause pressure issues. Also > to be sure it is properly topped up- #1-key reason to not work. > Before you tear it down, why not just change the oil as recommended > and see if there is a difference-easiest fix at this point. If not the > problem then it needs to come out and repair. Hank > > -------------------- > > From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" > Reply-To: "Bob Spidell" > To: "Michael Salter" , "Healeys" > > Sent: October 24, 2025 at 9:38 PM PDT > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum > Hi Michael, > > I rebuilt the gearbox and O/D probably about 7-8 years or so ago. I've > probably put close to 10K miles on it since, but not too many since I > moved to the Central Valley. For the last few years it's been mostly > short and day trips every month or two so, it's been mostly sedentary. > A few months ago I took it out for a spin and noticed the O/D wouldn't > engage at first but would start working normally after maybe 20 > minutes of driving. In subsequent runs it's more not engaging, until a > few days ago I'd decided I would likely have to pull the gearbox and > O/D, but had to pull it out to get it off the QuickJack underneath it > and, to my surprise it started to work OK again after 15-20 miles. > > I rebuilt the O/D myself, and I think I did OK except I may not have > gotten the planetary gears depth exactly right; I didn't have a > selection of thrust washers to try so I just put the existing one back > in. The only thing I changed out was the thrust ring bearing, which > might have been a different width. The unit did have a very slight > vibration, barely noticeable through the floorboards but otherwise > operated perfectly. Now, when it works, it seems fine. When I rebuilt > the gearbox the rearmost thrust washer was whacked (see pic), but of > course I replaced it (how that could happen and why the O/D worked is > another mystery). I couldn't get the GB and O/D to mate up so I took > them to BCS where David Nock got them together and set the operating > shaft lift. Besides trying a new relay at Tom Monaco's suggestion I > haven't done anything else to it. > > Only thing I can guess is maybe the lever that the solenoid lifts to > turn the valve operating cam maybe slips sometimes and not others. > > Bob > > On 10/24/2025 8:00 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > > That does defy logic Bob. > Can you give a little history, has it always been this way or did > you change something? Did the problem develop slowly or over time? > Anything else that may be relevant? > M > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Healeys > on behalf of Bob Spidell > via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2025 8:41:36 PM > *To:* Healeys > *Subject:* [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum > Listers, > > I have a problem with my BJ8's overdrive that defies conventional > logic: > The O/D will not engage when the drivetrain is cold, but begins to > function more-or-less normally as the drivetrain gets fully heated-up > (15-20m on a warm day). I've checked the functioning of the > electricals; > i.e. when not running I can a) disconnect the coil ground so as > not to > fry the Pertonix Ignitor, b) place the gearbox in 3rd or 4th and c) > close either, or both, the dash switch and/or the switch on the shift > knob --they're wired in parallel so either one will engage the > O/D, but > both need to be in off/open condition to disengage--and I can hear > the > solenoid click firmly (this pretty much rules out the switches). I > have > already replaced the scuttle relay to no effect (I have had them get > flaky). AFAIK, the throttle/'kickdown' switch only comes into play > when > disengaging, and seems to work when the O/D does engage. > > My thinking is, if the pump is failed or failing the O/D might > work when > the fluid is cold but cease to function as the fluid heats up and > thins > out (I've used Redline MT-90 successfully for over 100K miles or > more; > it's equivalent to 50wt engine oil). But, the O/D not engaging > when cold > (somewhat) refutes this theory. If the outlet check valve on the pump > was somehow boogered I would expect either a) cold function only, > or b) > no function at all. Ditto the solenoid; I'd expect it to get > flakey when > hot and it does 'click' reliably (when cold). I can imagine the > lever on > the operating cam slipping, but wouldn't expect that to vary with > temperature (or to work at all, actually). Actuating shaft lift was > correctly set at rebuild. I do have a DWM 'uprated' accumulator > installed, and the O/D engages within 2 seconds when it functions. > > Anyone had this condition, or have a theory as to why it behaves this > way? Next step would be to remove the console and confirm I have good > oil pressure (but if I do, then what?). > > TIA, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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His workshop is surprisingly small and slightly scruffy but is stuffed with all the right spares, test beds and spares. Michael, I recall you saying the same. I have to say that I use 30 or 40 non-detergent, which he says is fine. After fixing my OD, he put my 30 wt back in perfectly happily. He was absolutely against Redline and similar products... Simon From: Healeys On Behalf Of Michael Salter Sent: 25 October 2025 18:42 To: gradea1 at charter.net; Bob Spidell ; Healey team Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum Hank, I have never be able to find any recommendation from Laycock De Normanville which recommend any particular oil for one of their overdrive units. I wrote to the company (back in the day when one sent letters through the mail, many decades ago) and asked what lubricant they recommended and they replied that the lubricant was specified by the gearbox manufacturer. This 30 weight non-detergent thing is nothing more than an "old wives tale". M _____ From: Hank Leach > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2025 12:52:20 PM To: Michael Salter >; Bob Spidell >; Healey team > Subject: RE: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum The required clearance for the sunwheel is .016-.020" If you swapped out the bearing there could be a difference from original. Moss and AH Spares sell the various sized steel washers depending on the reading you get. Typically, after many miles, that rear bronze washer is cracked or worn and should be replaced. The factory(when there was one) recommended to only use 30W Non Detergent oil as others tended to foam and cause pressure issues. Also to be sure it is properly topped up- #1-key reason to not work. Before you tear it down, why not just change the oil as recommended and see if there is a difference-easiest fix at this point. If not the problem then it needs to come out and repair. Hank -------------------- From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" > Reply-To: "Bob Spidell" > To: "Michael Salter" >, "Healeys" > Sent: October 24, 2025 at 9:38 PM PDT Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum Hi Michael, I rebuilt the gearbox and O/D probably about 7-8 years or so ago. I've probably put close to 10K miles on it since, but not too many since I moved to the Central Valley. For the last few years it's been mostly short and day trips every month or two so, it's been mostly sedentary. A few months ago I took it out for a spin and noticed the O/D wouldn't engage at first but would start working normally after maybe 20 minutes of driving. In subsequent runs it's more not engaging, until a few days ago I'd decided I would likely have to pull the gearbox and O/D, but had to pull it out to get it off the QuickJack underneath it and, to my surprise it started to work OK again after 15-20 miles. I rebuilt the O/D myself, and I think I did OK except I may not have gotten the planetary gears depth exactly right; I didn't have a selection of thrust washers to try so I just put the existing one back in. The only thing I changed out was the thrust ring bearing, which might have been a different width. The unit did have a very slight vibration, barely noticeable through the floorboards but otherwise operated perfectly. Now, when it works, it seems fine. When I rebuilt the gearbox the rearmost thrust washer was whacked (see pic), but of course I replaced it (how that could happen and why the O/D worked is another mystery). I couldn't get the GB and O/D to mate up so I took them to BCS where David Nock got them together and set the operating shaft lift. Besides trying a new relay at Tom Monaco's suggestion I haven't done anything else to it. Only thing I can guess is maybe the lever that the solenoid lifts to turn the valve operating cam maybe slips sometimes and not others. Bob On 10/24/2025 8:00 PM, Michael Salter wrote: That does defy logic Bob. Can you give a little history, has it always been this way or did you change something? Did the problem develop slowly or over time? Anything else that may be relevant? M _____ From: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 8:41:36 PM To: Healeys Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum Listers, I have a problem with my BJ8's overdrive that defies conventional logic: The O/D will not engage when the drivetrain is cold, but begins to function more-or-less normally as the drivetrain gets fully heated-up (15-20m on a warm day). I've checked the functioning of the electricals; i.e. when not running I can a) disconnect the coil ground so as not to fry the Pertonix Ignitor, b) place the gearbox in 3rd or 4th and c) close either, or both, the dash switch and/or the switch on the shift knob --they're wired in parallel so either one will engage the O/D, but both need to be in off/open condition to disengage--and I can hear the solenoid click firmly (this pretty much rules out the switches). I have already replaced the scuttle relay to no effect (I have had them get flaky). AFAIK, the throttle/'kickdown' switch only comes into play when disengaging, and seems to work when the O/D does engage. My thinking is, if the pump is failed or failing the O/D might work when the fluid is cold but cease to function as the fluid heats up and thins out (I've used Redline MT-90 successfully for over 100K miles or more; it's equivalent to 50wt engine oil). But, the O/D not engaging when cold (somewhat) refutes this theory. If the outlet check valve on the pump was somehow boogered I would expect either a) cold function only, or b) no function at all. Ditto the solenoid; I'd expect it to get flakey when hot and it does 'click' reliably (when cold). I can imagine the lever on the operating cam slipping, but wouldn't expect that to vary with temperature (or to work at all, actually). Actuating shaft lift was correctly set at rebuild. I do have a DWM 'uprated' accumulator installed, and the O/D engages within 2 seconds when it functions. Anyone had this condition, or have a theory as to why it behaves this way? Next step would be to remove the console and confirm I have good oil pressure (but if I do, then what?). TIA, Bob _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys Healeys at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmasucci at charter.net Sun Oct 26 11:35:30 2025 From: dmasucci at charter.net (David Masucci) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2025 13:35:30 -0400 Subject: [Healeys] Tube Shock Conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi All, Quite a few years back now I had purchased a Putzke?s Fahrspass tube shock conversion kit (see photo) which included 4 Bilstein shocks. I was happy with the kit at the time, but I ultimately tore the car apart to do a ground up restoration back in 2012. I completed the restoration last year. Well as complete as it ever can be! Anyway I chose to go back to stock suspension. The Bilstein shocks and the conversion kit are sitting in my garage collecting dust. If anyone has an interest in buying the kit, please let me know and make an offer. Not looking for top dollar, I just don?t want them to go to waste. I?d assume anyone buying the kit might want to get new shocks, so I can include them or not?your choice. Thanks, Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 19a215546232c7025161.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 77444 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dave?s father-in-law worked for Laycock > and, when they stopped manufacturing ODs, he bought all the remaining > stock and started up on his own. (Or something similar?..Dave did tell > me but ages ago). Anyhow, I?d say that Dave and son are our leading OD > experts. His workshop is surprisingly small and slightly scruffy but > is stuffed with all the right spares, test beds and spares. Michael, I > recall you saying the same. > > I have to say that I use 30 or 40 non-detergent, which he says is > fine. After fixing my OD, he put my 30 wt back in perfectly happily. > He was absolutely against Redline and similar products?.. > > Simon > > *From:*Healeys *On Behalf Of *Michael > Salter > *Sent:* 25 October 2025 18:42 > *To:* gradea1 at charter.net; Bob Spidell ; Healey > team > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum > > Hank, I have never be able to find any recommendation from Laycock De > Normanville which recommend any particular oil for one of their > overdrive units. > > I wrote to the company (back in the day when one sent letters through > the mail, many decades ago) and asked what lubricant they recommended > and they replied that the lubricant was specified by the gearbox > manufacturer. > > This 30 weight non-detergent thing is nothing more than an "old wives > tale". > > M > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Hank Leach > *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2025 12:52:20 PM > *To:* Michael Salter ; Bob Spidell > ; Healey team > *Subject:* RE: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum > > The required clearance for the sunwheel is 016-.020" If you swapped > out the bearing there could be a difference from original. Moss and AH > Spares sell the various sized steel washers depending on the reading > you get. Typically, after many miles, that rear bronze washer is > cracked or worn and should be replaced. > > The factory(when there was one) recommended to only use _30W Non > Detergent_ oil as others tended to foam and cause pressure issues. > Also to be sure it is properly topped up- #1-key reason to not work. > > Before you tear it down, why not just change the oil as recommended > and see if there is a difference-easiest fix at this point. If not the > problem then it needs to come out and repair. Hank > > > -------------------- > > From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" > Reply-To: "Bob Spidell" > To: "Michael Salter" , "Healeys" > > Sent: October 24, 2025 at 9:38 PM PDT > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum > Hi Michael, > > I rebuilt the gearbox and O/D probably about 7-8 years or so ago. I've > probably put close to 10K miles on it since, but not too many since I > moved to the Central Valley. For the last few years it's been mostly > short and day trips every month or two so, it's been mostly sedentary. > A few months ago I took it out for a spin and noticed the O/D wouldn't > engage at first but would start working normally after maybe 20 > minutes of driving. In subsequent runs it's more not engaging, until a > few days ago I'd decided I would likely have to pull the gearbox and > O/D, but had to pull it out to get it off the QuickJack underneath it > and, to my surprise it started to work OK again after 15-20 miles. > > I rebuilt the O/D myself, and I think I did OK except I may not have > gotten the planetary gears depth exactly right; I didn't have a > selection of thrust washers to try so I just put the existing one back > in. The only thing I changed out was the thrust ring bearing, which > might have been a different width. The unit did have a very slight > vibration, barely noticeable through the floorboards but otherwise > operated perfectly. Now, when it works, it seems fine. When I rebuilt > the gearbox the rearmost thrust washer was whacked (see pic), but of > course I replaced it (how that could happen and why the O/D worked is > another mystery). I couldn't get the GB and O/D to mate up so I took > them to BCS where David Nock got them together and set the operating > shaft lift. Besides trying a new relay at Tom Monaco's suggestion I > haven't done anything else to it. > > Only thing I can guess is maybe the lever that the solenoid lifts to > turn the valve operating cam maybe slips sometimes and not others. > > Bob > > On 10/24/2025 8:00 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > > That does defy logic Bob. > > Can you give a little history, has it always been this way or did > you change something? Did the problem develop slowly or over time? > > Anything else that may be relevant? > > M > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Healeys > on behalf of Bob Spidell > via Healeys > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2025 8:41:36 PM > *To:* Healeys > *Subject:* [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum > > Listers, > > I have a problem with my BJ8's overdrive that defies conventional > logic: > The O/D will not engage when the drivetrain is cold, but begins to > function more-or-less normally as the drivetrain gets fully heated-up > (15-20m on a warm day). I've checked the functioning of the > electricals; > i.e. when not running I can a) disconnect the coil ground so as > not to > fry the Pertonix Ignitor, b) place the gearbox in 3rd or 4th and c) > close either, or both, the dash switch and/or the switch on the shift > knob --they're wired in parallel so either one will engage the > O/D, but > both need to be in off/open condition to disengage--and I can hear > the > solenoid click firmly (this pretty much rules out the switches). I > have > already replaced the scuttle relay to no effect (I have had them get > flaky). AFAIK, the throttle/'kickdown' switch only comes into play > when > disengaging, and seems to work when the O/D does engage. > > My thinking is, if the pump is failed or failing the O/D might > work when > the fluid is cold but cease to function as the fluid heats up and > thins > out (I've used Redline MT-90 successfully for over 100K miles or > more; > it's equivalent to 50wt engine oil). But, the O/D not engaging > when cold > (somewhat) refutes this theory. If the outlet check valve on the pump > was somehow boogered I would expect either a) cold function only, > or b) > no function at all. Ditto the solenoid; I'd expect it to get > flakey when > hot and it does 'click' reliably (when cold). I can imagine the > lever on > the operating cam slipping, but wouldn't expect that to vary with > temperature (or to work at all, actually). Actuating shaft lift was > correctly set at rebuild. I do have a DWM 'uprated' accumulator > installed, and the O/D engages within 2 seconds when it functions. > > Anyone had this condition, or have a theory as to why it behaves this > way? Next step would be to remove the console and confirm I have good > oil pressure (but if I do, then what?). > > TIA, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.teamnet/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From roggrace at telus.net Sun Oct 26 18:12:08 2025 From: roggrace at telus.net (Roger Grace) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2025 17:12:08 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum In-Reply-To: <5f8ae91b-2a7e-4f24-89ea-c890dbf68dd2@comcast.net> References: <002001dc4677$850608d0$8f121a70$@alexarevel.plus.com> <5f8ae91b-2a7e-4f24-89ea-c890dbf68dd2@comcast.net> Message-ID: OK have resisted commenting on this controversial topic for a few years. Yes agree that OD Spares are a great resource and Dave is super helpful and responsive. Long story about OD oil to add to the oil confusion. I have made up a VS test rig for running a GB plus OD at different speeds. Very useful for functional and OD oil leak hunting Several years ago, after a rebuild I filled with Castrol 30WT ND oil - no issues OD engaged fine. On same GB after a few days after running for 2-3 mins from cold, drained the oil (to fix a leak) and noted very significant foaming with the classic fish eye bubbles. The GB oil seemed foamier than the OD Repeated this test and same story. Also 2 others observed the same foaming, and on one was so bad that OD would not engage. We all changed to MT90. Out of curiosity wrote to Castrol about this. See reply below. *"Thank you for contacting Castrol NorthAmerica.* *Castrol does not recommend our Non-Detergent for manual transmission applications, and we believe the foaming was likely causedby some type of contamination, perhaps water in thetransmission.* *Unfortunately Castrol does not offer a manual transmissionfluid product in Canada or the US.* *Castrol Consumer Relations"* There certainly was no moisture in the tranny. Not sure if foaming is a bad thing ? What is disturbing is that if I hadn't drained the oil I would have been none the wiser about the foaming. Maybe this is normal. I suspect that it disappears after some use and only evident soon after starting ? To hopefully reduce pesky weeping leaks now use regular engine oil 20-50 VR1 rg On Sun, Oct 26, 2025 at 3:56?PM Mike Sinclair via Healeys < healeys at autox.team.net> wrote: > Interesting, the comment on Redline. I have used it in my ancient Honda > and the gearbox noises went away. > > Mike > On 10/26/25 5:53 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: > > Just to keep the pot boiling?????when I was up at OD Spares talking to > Dave Twigger, I asked him which oil to use in my OD. ?20-50?, he replied > very firmly. Over here, UK, OD Spares is somewhat regarded in the same > light as AH Spares. Dave?s father-in-law worked for Laycock and, when they > stopped manufacturing ODs, he bought all the remaining stock and started up > on his own. (Or something similar?..Dave did tell me but ages ago). Anyhow, > I?d say that Dave and son are our leading OD experts. His workshop is > surprisingly small and slightly scruffy but is stuffed with all the right > spares, test beds and spares. Michael, I recall you saying the same. > > I have to say that I use 30 or 40 non-detergent, which he says is fine. > After fixing my OD, he put my 30 wt back in perfectly happily. He was > absolutely against Redline and similar products?.. > > Simon > > > > *From:* Healeys > *On Behalf Of *Michael Salter > *Sent:* 25 October 2025 18:42 > *To:* gradea1 at charter.net; Bob Spidell > ; Healey team > > *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum > > > > Hank, I have never be able to find any recommendation from Laycock De > Normanville which recommend any particular oil for one of their overdrive > units. > > I wrote to the company (back in the day when one sent letters through the > mail, many decades ago) and asked what lubricant they recommended and they > replied that the lubricant was specified by the gearbox manufacturer. > > This 30 weight non-detergent thing is nothing more than an "old wives > tale". > > > > M > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Hank Leach > *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2025 12:52:20 PM > *To:* Michael Salter ; Bob Spidell < > bspidell at comcast.net>; Healey team > *Subject:* RE: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum > > > > The required clearance for the sunwheel is 016-.020" If you swapped out > the bearing there could be a difference from original. Moss and AH Spares > sell the various sized steel washers depending on the reading you get. > Typically, after many miles, that rear bronze washer is cracked or worn and > should be replaced. > > > > The factory(when there was one) recommended to only use *30W Non > Detergent* oil as others tended to foam and cause pressure issues. Also > to be sure it is properly topped up- #1-key reason to not work. > > > > Before you tear it down, why not just change the oil as recommended and > see if there is a difference-easiest fix at this point. If not the problem > then it needs to come out and repair. Hank > > > -------------------- > > From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" > Reply-To: "Bob Spidell" > To: "Michael Salter" , "Healeys" < > healeys at autox.team.net> > Sent: October 24, 2025 at 9:38 PM PDT > Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum > Hi Michael, > > I rebuilt the gearbox and O/D probably about 7-8 years or so ago. I've > probably put close to 10K miles on it since, but not too many since I moved > to the Central Valley. For the last few years it's been mostly short and > day trips every month or two so, it's been mostly sedentary. A few months > ago I took it out for a spin and noticed the O/D wouldn't engage at first > but would start working normally after maybe 20 minutes of driving. In > subsequent runs it's more not engaging, until a few days ago I'd decided I > would likely have to pull the gearbox and O/D, but had to pull it out to > get it off the QuickJack underneath it and, to my surprise it started to > work OK again after 15-20 miles. > > I rebuilt the O/D myself, and I think I did OK except I may not have > gotten the planetary gears depth exactly right; I didn't have a selection > of thrust washers to try so I just put the existing one back in. The only > thing I changed out was the thrust ring bearing, which might have been a > different width. The unit did have a very slight vibration, barely > noticeable through the floorboards but otherwise operated perfectly. Now, > when it works, it seems fine. When I rebuilt the gearbox the rearmost > thrust washer was whacked (see pic), but of course I replaced it (how that > could happen and why the O/D worked is another mystery). I couldn't get the > GB and O/D to mate up so I took them to BCS where David Nock got them > together and set the operating shaft lift. Besides trying a new relay at > Tom Monaco's suggestion I haven't done anything else to it. > > Only thing I can guess is maybe the lever that the solenoid lifts to turn > the valve operating cam maybe slips sometimes and not others. > > Bob > > On 10/24/2025 8:00 PM, Michael Salter wrote: > > That does defy logic Bob. > > Can you give a little history, has it always been this way or did you > change something? Did the problem develop slowly or over time? > > Anything else that may be relevant? > > > > M > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Healeys > on behalf of Bob Spidell via Healeys > > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2025 8:41:36 PM > *To:* Healeys > *Subject:* [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum > > > > Listers, > > I have a problem with my BJ8's overdrive that defies conventional logic: > The O/D will not engage when the drivetrain is cold, but begins to > function more-or-less normally as the drivetrain gets fully heated-up > (15-20m on a warm day). I've checked the functioning of the electricals; > i.e. when not running I can a) disconnect the coil ground so as not to > fry the Pertonix Ignitor, b) place the gearbox in 3rd or 4th and c) > close either, or both, the dash switch and/or the switch on the shift > knob --they're wired in parallel so either one will engage the O/D, but > both need to be in off/open condition to disengage--and I can hear the > solenoid click firmly (this pretty much rules out the switches). I have > already replaced the scuttle relay to no effect (I have had them get > flaky). AFAIK, the throttle/'kickdown' switch only comes into play when > disengaging, and seems to work when the O/D does engage. > > My thinking is, if the pump is failed or failing the O/D might work when > the fluid is cold but cease to function as the fluid heats up and thins > out (I've used Redline MT-90 successfully for over 100K miles or more; > it's equivalent to 50wt engine oil). But, the O/D not engaging when cold > (somewhat) refutes this theory. If the outlet check valve on the pump > was somehow boogered I would expect either a) cold function only, or b) > no function at all. Ditto the solenoid; I'd expect it to get flakey when > hot and it does 'click' reliably (when cold). I can imagine the lever on > the operating cam slipping, but wouldn't expect that to vary with > temperature (or to work at all, actually). Actuating shaft lift was > correctly set at rebuild. I do have a DWM 'uprated' accumulator > installed, and the O/D engages within 2 seconds when it functions. > > Anyone had this condition, or have a theory as to why it behaves this > way? Next step would be to remove the console and confirm I have good > oil pressure (but if I do, then what?). > > TIA, > Bob > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.teamnet/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > Healeys at autox.team.nethttp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bspidell at comcast.net Sun Oct 26 22:51:32 2025 From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell) Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2025 21:51:32 -0700 Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum In-Reply-To: References: <002001dc4677$850608d0$8f121a70$@alexarevel.plus.com> <5f8ae91b-2a7e-4f24-89ea-c890dbf68dd2@comcast.net> Message-ID: <901de9f6-9bc4-4e43-9899-925fe337fe78@comcast.net> When I first started using MT-90 in my BJ8 I changed out the fluid at 15K miles (Norman Nock's recommended interval). I drained into a perfectly clean pan, took the fluid out into the bright sunlight and observed it had what I called 'shake;' shiny brass particles floating in the amber fluid. It was quite pretty, like a super fine metal flake paint, but the brass particles were so fine you could rub the oil between your fingers and not feel a thing. In short, they were too small to plug any of the passages in an O/D. Anyone who's rebuilt a Healey/Mowog gearbox knows the brass shift forks are a consumable item (and easily restored). Note quality greases are merely oil thickened with a very finely ground, soft metal; e.g. lithium, molybdenum ('moly'). The cheap stuff usually uses diatomaceous earth. The only (supposed) reason I've ever heard for using non-detergent oil in a gearbox is to let the brass, and other contaminants settle into a sludge at the bottom of the gearbox, so it doesn't circulate through the O/D and possibly plug one of the small passages (anybody heard a different 'logic?). But, the job of a detergent is to clean contaminants--soot, etc.--from the combustion chambers and,? in particular, ring lands. It's the job of ashless dispersants to keep particulates suspended in the oil, so as NOT to contribute to sludge buildup, so spec'ing an AD oil/might/?make some sense (but what happens when a chunk of sludge starts migrating around the gearbox; blood clot anybody?). Note I read somewhere, but can't provide a source, that ZDDP was first added to oil as a detergent, before its anti-wear properties were known (rule of thumb: if something has 'phosphate' in its chemical name it likely has detergent properties). Some differences are pointed out here: https://www.cnlubricantadditive.com/info/difference-between-dispersants-and-dertergents-91273973.html Our mechanics always insisted we use AD/mineral oil for engine break-in in our aircraft engines--no mention of 'non-detergent'--because air-cooled aircraft engine cylinders are notoriously tricky to break-in properly due to the loose clearances and (sometimes) chrome cylinder coatings. AD oil was thought to help 'wear in' the rings (when the break-in failed I've heard of owners putting Bon Ami in the cylinders). AFAIK, most modern, off-the-shelf oils contain both dispersants and detergents. Their is a cadre of owners and mechanics that seem to think our cars should only get the oils, etc. that were available when the cars were first manufactured, ignoring the tremendous advances in lubricant science ('tribology') in the last 70 years or so. I've attached the recommended lubricant chart from the Bentley reprint for the 6-cyl cars, showing how the recommendations 'evolved' as multi-vis oils became available--early 60s, I think--and no mention of 'non-detergent.' I don't see any particular advantage to using a multi-vis in a gearbox; I suspect BMC simply wanted to limit the types of oil the mechanics had to stock, and engine oil was good enough (I suppose a mult-vis might shift a little better when cold, but I ran Castrol 20W-50 for a few years and didn't notice any benefit; admittedly in a temperate climate). When I overhauled my gearbox/OD at 205K miles there was only slight wear on the leading edge of 2nd gear. The O/D accumulator showed typical scoring, and I replaced one bearing that probably didn't need to be replaced, but otherwise all the moving parts were pristine, the O/D screen had just a few small particles and the cone clutch had significant material left and I put it back in (they appear to be of limited supply; DWM relines them). Not a spec of 'sludge' anywhere. Redline MTL has equivalent viscosity to 30WT motor oil; MT-90 is equivalent to 50WT. Yes, synthetic oils may leak a little more, but I ran my old Lincoln LS with a Jaguar engine on 5W-30 full synthetic and it didn't leak a drop. Go figure. Bob On 10/26/2025 5:12 PM, Roger Grace wrote: > OK have resisted commenting on this controversial topic?for a few years. > > Long story about OD oil to?add to the oil confusion. > I have made up a VS test rig for running a GB plus OD at different speeds. > Very useful for?functional and OD oil leak hunting > Several years?ago, after a rebuild I filled with Castrol 30WT ND oil - > no issues OD engaged fine. > On same GB after a few days after running for 2-3 mins from cold, > drained the oil (to fix a leak) and?noted very significant foaming > with the classic fish eye bubbles. > The GB oil seemed foamier than the OD > Repeated this test and same story. > Also 2 others observed the same foaming,?and on one was so bad that OD > would not engage. > We all changed to MT90. > > Out of curiosity wrote to Castrol about this. > See reply below. > > /"Thank you for contacting Castrol North > America./ > > /Castrol does not recommend our Non-Detergent for manual transmission > applications, and we believe the foaming was likely caused > by some type of contamination, perhaps water in the > transmission./ > > /Unfortunately Castrol does not offer a manual transmission > fluid product in Canada or the US./ > > /Castrol Consumer Relations"/ > > There certainly was no moisture in the tranny. > > Not sure if foaming is a bad thing ??What is disturbing is that if I > hadn't drained the oil I would have been none the wiser about the > foaming. Maybe this is normal. I suspect that it disappears after some > use and only evident soon after starting ? > > To hopefully reduce?pesky weeping leaks now use regular engine oil > 20-50 VR1 > > rg > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 26, 2025 at 3:56?PM Mike Sinclair via Healeys > wrote: > > Interesting, the comment on Redline.? I have used it in my ancient > Honda and the gearbox noises went away. > > Mike > > On 10/26/25 5:53 AM, Simon Lachlan via Healeys wrote: >> >> Just to keep the pot boiling?????when I was up at OD Spares >> talking to Dave Twigger, I asked him which oil to use in my OD. >> ?20-50?, he replied very firmly. Over here, UK, OD Spares is >> somewhat regarded in the same light as AH Spares. Dave?s >> father-in-law worked for Laycock and, when they stopped >> manufacturing ODs, he bought all the remaining stock and started >> up on his own. (Or something similar?..Dave did tell me but ages >> ago). Anyhow, I?d say that Dave and son are our leading OD >> experts. His workshop is surprisingly small and slightly scruffy >> but is stuffed with all the right spares, test beds and spares. >> Michael, I recall you saying the same. >> >> I have to say that I use 30 or 40 non-detergent, which he says is >> fine. After fixing my OD, he put my 30 wt back in perfectly >> happily. He was absolutely against Redline and similar products?.. >> >> Simon >> >> *From:*Healeys >> *On Behalf Of *Michael Salter >> *Sent:* 25 October 2025 18:42 >> *To:* gradea1 at charter.net; Bob Spidell >> ; Healey team >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum >> >> Hank, I have never be able to find any recommendation from >> Laycock De Normanville which recommend any particular oil for one >> of their overdrive units. >> >> I wrote to the company (back in the day when one sent letters >> through the mail, many decades ago) and asked what lubricant they >> recommended and they replied that the lubricant was specified by >> the gearbox manufacturer. >> >> This 30 weight non-detergent thing is nothing more than an "old >> wives tale". >> >> M >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> *From:*Hank Leach >> *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2025 12:52:20 PM >> *To:* Michael Salter ; Bob Spidell >> ; Healey team >> *Subject:* RE: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum >> >> The required clearance for the sunwheel is 016-.020" If you >> swapped out the bearing there could be a difference from >> original. Moss and AH Spares sell the various sized steel washers >> depending on the reading you get. Typically, after many miles, >> that rear bronze washer is cracked or worn and should be replaced. >> >> The factory(when there was one) recommended to only use _30W Non >> Detergent_ oil as others tended to foam and cause pressure >> issues. Also to be sure it is properly topped up- #1-key reason >> to not work. >> >> Before you tear it down, why not just change the oil as >> recommended and see if there is a difference-easiest fix at this >> point. If not the problem then it needs to come out and repair. Hank >> >> >> -------------------- >> >> From: "Bob Spidell via Healeys" >> Reply-To: "Bob Spidell" >> To: "Michael Salter" , "Healeys" >> >> Sent: October 24, 2025 at 9:38 PM PDT >> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum >> Hi Michael, >> >> I rebuilt the gearbox and O/D probably about 7-8 years or so ago. >> I've probably put close to 10K miles on it since, but not too >> many since I moved to the Central Valley. For the last few years >> it's been mostly short and day trips every month or two so, it's >> been mostly sedentary. A few months ago I took it out for a spin >> and noticed the O/D wouldn't engage at first but would start >> working normally after maybe 20 minutes of driving. In subsequent >> runs it's more not engaging, until a few days ago I'd decided I >> would likely have to pull the gearbox and O/D, but had to pull it >> out to get it off the QuickJack underneath it and, to my surprise >> it started to work OK again after 15-20 miles. >> >> I rebuilt the O/D myself, and I think I did OK except I may not >> have gotten the planetary gears depth exactly right; I didn't >> have a selection of thrust washers to try so I just put the >> existing one back in. The only thing I changed out was the thrust >> ring bearing, which might have been a different width. The unit >> did have a very slight vibration, barely noticeable through the >> floorboards but otherwise operated perfectly. Now, when it works, >> it seems fine. When I rebuilt the gearbox the rearmost thrust >> washer was whacked (see pic), but of course I replaced it (how >> that could happen and why the O/D worked is another mystery). I >> couldn't get the GB and O/D to mate up so I took them to BCS >> where David Nock got them together and set the operating shaft >> lift. Besides trying a new relay at Tom Monaco's suggestion I >> haven't done anything else to it. >> >> Only thing I can guess is maybe the lever that the solenoid lifts >> to turn the valve operating cam maybe slips sometimes and not others. >> >> Bob >> >> On 10/24/2025 8:00 PM, Michael Salter wrote: >> >> That does defy logic Bob. >> >> Can you give a little history, has it always been this way or >> did you change something? Did the problem develop slowly or >> over time? >> >> Anything else that may be relevant? >> >> M >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Healeys >> on behalf of Bob >> Spidell via Healeys >> >> *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2025 8:41:36 PM >> *To:* Healeys >> >> *Subject:* [Healeys] Overdrive Conundrum >> >> Listers, >> >> I have a problem with my BJ8's overdrive that defies >> conventional logic: >> The O/D will not engage when the drivetrain is cold, but >> begins to >> function more-or-less normally as the drivetrain gets fully >> heated-up >> (15-20m on a warm day). I've checked the functioning of the >> electricals; >> i.e. when not running I can a) disconnect the coil ground so >> as not to >> fry the Pertonix Ignitor, b) place the gearbox in 3rd or 4th >> and c) >> close either, or both, the dash switch and/or the switch on >> the shift >> knob --they're wired in parallel so either one will engage >> the O/D, but >> both need to be in off/open condition to disengage--and I can >> hear the >> solenoid click firmly (this pretty much rules out the >> switches). I have >> already replaced the scuttle relay to no effect (I have had >> them get >> flaky). AFAIK, the throttle/'kickdown' switch only comes into >> play when >> disengaging, and seems to work when the O/D does engage. >> >> My thinking is, if the pump is failed or failing the O/D >> might work when >> the fluid is cold but cease to function as the fluid heats up >> and thins >> out (I've used Redline MT-90 successfully for over 100K miles >> or more; >> it's equivalent to 50wt engine oil). But, the O/D not >> engaging when cold >> (somewhat) refutes this theory. If the outlet check valve on >> the pump >> was somehow boogered I would expect either a) cold function >> only, or b) >> no function at all. Ditto the solenoid; I'd expect it to get >> flakey when >> hot and it does 'click' reliably (when cold). I can imagine >> the lever on >> the operating cam slipping, but wouldn't expect that to vary >> with >> temperature (or to work at all, actually). Actuating shaft >> lift was >> correctly set at rebuild. I do have a DWM 'uprated' accumulator >> installed, and the O/D engages within 2 seconds when it >> functions. >> >> Anyone had this condition, or have a theory as to why it >> behaves this >> way? Next step would be to remove the console and confirm I >> have good >> oil pressure (but if I do, then what?). >> >> TIA, >> Bob >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys >> http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.teamnet/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/michaelsalter at gmail.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys >> >> Healeys at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/phoenix722 at comcast.net >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys > http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/roggrace at telus.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Nethttp://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys > > Healeys at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/bspidell at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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