[JONAT] waivers and porno

Dr Gregory Andrachuk jonat@autox.team.net
Wed May 7 17:38:01 2003


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MessageGreg: there is a standard JCNA waiver of a type also used by ABFM's. It reads thus:

    "I agree to insure my vehicle against loss, damage and liability. I agree to assume the risk of any damage or injury, and to indemnify and hold harmless (JONAT), its officers, and directors or agents against any acts of omission which may result in the theft, damage, or destruction of my property or injury to me or others occurring during or as a consequence of this (tour) including, but not limited to: overnight storage, and all places associated with this (tour)."

    We should have this or similar wording and every entrant should be required to sign this as part of the registration process; these forms should be kept by the JONAT administrators.
    Regarding porno: your implicit offer to eventually post some Jaguar-porno is interesting, and possibly welcome to some. I suppose that an example of Jaguar porno might be a photo of a topless E-type, bonnet open to show in lurid detail a Chevy small block.  Too horrible to contemplate. There ought to be a law...

                                            Gregory 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: JONAT Webmaster 
  To: jonat@autox.team.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 4:17 PM
  Subject: RE: [JONAT] Individual vs. Tour Responsibility;


  Jamie et al,
  We should definitely have a lawyer review the legal notice on the website. http://jonat.org/privacy.cfm 
  I assume there is also a standard waiver template that we can use for the participants and drivers.  Does JCNA have one?
  I can add whatever you want to the website.


  except for porno.


  at least at the present time.


  Greg

    -----Original Message-----
    From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jamie - JONAT
    Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 4:52 AM
    To: jonat@autox.team.net
    Subject: [JONAT] Individual vs. Tour Responsibility; was - SECTOR ROUTES


    Has anyone been in touch with or know a lawyer out here yet, that could be persuaded to provide some "pro bono" help in developing some verbiage for this statement.  Once it's identified it can be added to the "legal" page of the Web Site (right Greg?)

    Jamie Duffey - Everett, WA
    88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne
    Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - http://jonat.org
    April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Greg: there is a standard JCNA waiver of a type 
also used by ABFM's. It reads thus:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "I agree to insure my vehicle 
against loss, damage and liability. I agree to assume the risk of any damage or 
injury, and to indemnify and hold harmless (JONAT), its officers, and directors 
or agents against any acts of omission which may result in the theft, damage, or 
destruction of my property or injury to me or others occurring during or as a 
consequence of this (tour) including, but not limited to: overnight storage, and 
all places associated with this (tour)."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We should have this or similar 
wording and every entrant should be required to sign this as part of the 
registration process; these forms should be kept by the JONAT 
administrators.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Regarding porno: your implicit 
offer to eventually post some Jaguar-porno is interesting, and possibly welcome 
to some.&nbsp;I suppose that an example of&nbsp;Jaguar porno might be a photo of 
a&nbsp;topless E-type, bonnet open to show in lurid detail a Chevy small 
block.&nbsp; Too horrible to contemplate. There ought to be a 
law...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Gregory</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=webmaster@jonat.org href="mailto:webmaster@jonat.org">JONAT 
  Webmaster</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=jonat@autox.team.net 
  href="mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 07, 2003 4:17 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [JONAT] Individual vs. Tour 
  Responsibility;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2>Jamie et 
  al,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2>We should definitely have a 
  lawyer review the legal notice on the website.&nbsp;<A 
  href="http://jonat.org/privacy.cfm">http://jonat.org/privacy.cfm</A> 
  </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2>I assume there is also 
  a&nbsp;standard&nbsp;waiver template that we can use for the participants and 
  drivers.&nbsp; Does JCNA have one?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2>I can add whatever you want 
  to the website.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2>except for 
  porno.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2>at least at the present 
  time.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2>Greg</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=280351023-07052003><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf 
    Of </B>Jamie - JONAT<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 07, 2003 4:52 
    AM<BR><B>To:</B> jonat@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] Individual 
    vs. Tour Responsibility; was - SECTOR ROUTES<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Has anyone been in touch with or know a lawyer 
    out here yet, that could be persuaded to provide some "pro bono" help in 
    developing some verbiage for this statement.&nbsp; Once it's identified it 
    can be added to the "legal" page of the Web Site (right Greg?)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Jamie Duffey - Everett, WA<BR>88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne<BR>Jaguar 
    Owner's North American Tour - <A 
    href="http://jonat.org">http://jonat.org</A><BR>April 15, 2004 - July 4, 
    2004</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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