[JONAT] RE: San Diego Addition for 2004; Re: JONAT Route

Wed Oct 15 22:11:02 2003

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Folks:
I think that the route from Las Vegas to San Diego then to Los Angeles 
might be more interesting than the route from LV to LA.

Please keep in mind that when entering Los Angeles there is 5 o'clock 
traffic from every direction. A drive from SD to LA which could leave SD at 
8.00 AM would want to be at the west side hotel destination by 2.00 PM if 
we are then going to drive to the Petersen Automotive Museum for a car 
corral, cocktails and dinner.

OTOH if we lay over one night in LA, the tour of the Petersen Automotive 
Museum could be on the layover day with the car show and dinner around 6.00 PM.

I also think it would be a good way of picking up the large group of Jag 
owners in the greater SD area.  IMO I would not spend the extra day in Las 
Vegas. But that is me. As it is now I have arrange for a dinner at the 
Petersen Automotive Museum on Cinco de Mayo (may 5th) 2004. I am sure that 
we could move that out one night if needed.

BTW, I spoke with Jason Len of XK's Unlimited (SLO) and he would be pleased 
to provide economic support in a small way. Perhaps a Cocktail party the 
night that we are in SLO?  Also he would keep his shop open that night if 
we asked in advance. This could be for buying parts, spares, or minor repair.

It would be great if we had a Las Vegas coordinator. Mark, what do you think?

Ron Rader
Los Angeles Coordinator.

At 03:49 PM 10/15/2003, Bob England wrote:
>Hazel
>
>It's great to hear from San Diego and I'd sure like to be able to tap into 
>your enthusiasm.  We have a few options at this point:
>
>1. (the easiest) is to have a link tour from San Diego up to LA.  That is, 
>SD would not be on the main route, but there would be a group of San 
>Diegans travelling from SD (and back of course) to join up with the tour 
>in LA, and hopefully carry on with the Tour a bit from there.  We have a 
>few similar situations (Reno, Phoenix, and Saskatoon) so far.
>
>2. we could re-route the tour.  We do not have a Co-ordinator for Las 
>Vegas as of yet, so an option would be to bypass LV, and go from the 
>Phoenix Sector into SD.  This would need the cooperation of Los Angeles 
>(Ron Rader) and Phoenix (Mark Stevenson) as it would mean a change to 
>their route.  We have a few flex days in Vancouver that would allow the 
>timing to work out (it would effect dates through northern California, 
>Oregon, Washington, and the first bit of British Columbia.
>
>3.  leave SD to be included in "Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - The 
>Sequel", perhaps in 2006.
>
>My preference would be either 1 or 2.
>
>I think I'll also open up this discussion to all SC's via the mailing 
>list.  There may be some other valuable comments out there, and those 
>whose sectors are effected might want to add in a few comments.
>
>I'm very much looking forward to seeing San Diego participate in some form 
>next year.
>
>
>Bob England
>'69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
>Route Coordinator
><http://www.jonat.org>http://www.jonat.org
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jamie - JONAT [mailto:jamie@jonat.org]
>Sent: October 15, 2003 12:36 PM
>To: Hazel A. Beck
>Cc: Engl-JONAT
>Subject: San Diego Additon for 2004; Re: JONAT Route
>
>Hello Hazel, this is actually quite a surprise at this point in our 
>planning.  We started over a year ago enlisting interested parties in the 
>Tour formation steps which included the routing, length of stay in an 
>area, events or sites included along the way and volunteers to help with 
>their specific areas along the route.  Please do not get me wrong, we are 
>pleased that your club is interested in participating in the Tour as one 
>of our goals is to provide another opportunity for fellow Jaguar owners to 
>enjoy their choice in vehicle ownership and we feel it is an added benefit 
>to enjoy the comradery of other owners we can meet on a Tour such as this 
>as some tourers will be traveling perhaps a couple of Sectors while others 
>may be traveling the entire route.
>
>We may have a problem adjusting the routing at this late date though.  We 
>have been organizing the Tour for over the past year, as I mentioned, and 
>have already set some dates for certain areas so we can specifically 
>attend certain events in those areas.  Therefore I am uncertain whether it 
>will be possible to adjust the routing for this first Tour without 
>negatively affecting other Sector schedules.  We can absolutely include 
>the San Diego area in the next Tour, I just cannot answer for this coming 
>year at this time.  I am forwarding my response to my fellow Executive 
>Committee members and we shall take a look into this routing change.  We 
>will have to discuss this with each of the Sector Coordinators 
>"downstream" of your location and see what affect it will have on their plans.
>
>Do you have a feel for or better yet a solid number of people from your 
>Club which are interested in participating at this time?  Do you have some 
>events or sites which you could mention to help us with the decision?  If 
>we could revise the Tour at this point, it looks as though it would be in 
>your area around the first week of May 2004.  Perhaps a Tour of or dinner 
>hosted by the Jaguar Headquarters?  Or something along those lines?
>
>Jamie Duffey - Everett, WA
>88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne
>89 XJS V12 Convertible 2 Seater - ????
>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - <http://jonat.org>http://jonat.org
>April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:hazelbeck@worldnet.att.net>Hazel A. Beck
>To: <mailto:admin@jonat.org>admin@jonat.org
>Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:12 AM
>Subject: JONAT Route
>
>Hi...my name is Hazel Beck, 1st VP of the San Diego Jaguar Club...just 
>wanted to throw our hat into the ring to be added to the Tour Route...we 
>are a very active club with 180 members...there is also a large Jaguar 
>Club (JOC) in  southern Orange County, just north of us...and Jaguar North 
>American headquarters (part of the Premier Auto Group) is located in 
>Irvine...Orange County again.
>
> From Las Vegas, we are an easy 4-5 hour drive south...it would be easy to 
> do Highway 101 (the Coastal Highway) up from San Diego through Orange 
> County an up to Los Angeles...it takes less than an hour to get to Orange 
> County and additional hour from there to LA...it would add a fabulous 
> dimension of automotive history (cruising the 101) and stunning vistas to 
> the tour.
>
>So...this is a formal appeal to add San Diego, America's Finest City, to 
>the JONAT.  Please feel free to call me if we can help.
>
>Regards.
>Hazel A. Beck
>858.638.0011

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Folks: 
I think that the route from Las Vegas to San Diego then to Los Angeles
might be more interesting than the route from LV to LA. 
Please keep in mind that when entering Los Angeles there is 5 o'clock
traffic from every direction. A drive from SD to LA which could leave SD
at 8.00 AM would want to be at the west side hotel destination by 2.00 PM
if we are then going to drive to the Petersen Automotive Museum for a car
corral, cocktails and dinner. 
OTOH if we lay over one night in LA, the tour of the Petersen Automotive
Museum could be on the layover day with the car show and dinner around
6.00 PM. 
I also think it would be a good way of picking up the large group of Jag
owners in the greater SD area.&nbsp; IMO I would not spend the extra day
in Las Vegas. But that is me. As it is now I have arrange for a dinner at
the Petersen Automotive Museum on Cinco de Mayo (may 5th) 2004. I am sure
that we could move that out one night if needed. 
BTW, I spoke with Jason Len of XK's Unlimited (SLO) and he would be
pleased to provide economic support in a small way. Perhaps a Cocktail
party the night that we are in SLO?&nbsp; Also he would keep his shop
open that night if we asked in advance. This could be for buying parts,
spares, or minor repair. 
It would be great if we had a Las Vegas coordinator. Mark, what do you
think? 
&nbsp; 
Ron Rader 
Los Angeles Coordinator. 
 
At 03:49 PM 10/15/2003, Bob England wrote: 
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Hazel 
&nbsp; 
It's great to hear from
San Diego and I'd sure like to be able to tap into your enthusiasm.&nbsp;
We have a few options at this point: 
&nbsp; 
1. (the easiest) is to
have a link tour from San Diego up to LA.&nbsp; That is, SD would not be
on the main route, but there would be a group of San Diegans travelling
from SD (and back of course) to join up with the tour in LA, and
hopefully carry on with the Tour a bit from there.&nbsp; We have a few
similar situations (Reno, Phoenix, and Saskatoon) so far. 
&nbsp; 
2. we could re-route the
tour.&nbsp; We do not have a Co-ordinator for Las Vegas as of yet, so an
option would be to bypass LV, and go from the Phoenix Sector into
SD.&nbsp; This would need the cooperation of Los Angeles (Ron Rader) and
Phoenix (Mark Stevenson) as it would mean a change to their route.&nbsp;
We have a few flex days in Vancouver that would allow the timing to work
out (it would effect dates through northern California, Oregon,
Washington, and the first bit of British Columbia. 
&nbsp; 
3.&nbsp; leave SD to be
included in &quot;Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - The Sequel&quot;,
perhaps in 2006. 
&nbsp; 
My preference would be
either 1 or 2.&nbsp; 
&nbsp; 
I think I'll also open
up this discussion to all SC's via the mailing list.&nbsp; There may be
some other valuable comments out there, and those whose sectors are
effected might want to add in a few comments. 
&nbsp; 
I'm very much looking
forward to seeing San Diego participate in some form next year. 
&nbsp; 
 
Bob England 
'69 E-Type &amp; '72 XJ6 
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT) 
Route Coordinator 
<a href="http://www.jonat.org">http://www.jonat.org</a> 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Jamie - JONAT
[<a href="mailto:jamie@jonat.org" eudora="autourl">mailto:jamie@jonat.org</a>] 
Sent: October 15, 2003 12:36 PM 
To: Hazel A. Beck 
Cc: Engl-JONAT 
Subject: San Diego Additon for 2004; Re: JONAT Route 
Hello Hazel, this is actually quite a
surprise at this point in our planning.&nbsp; We started over a year ago
enlisting interested parties in the Tour formation steps which included
the routing, length of stay in an area, events or sites included along
the way and volunteers to help with their specific areas along the
route.&nbsp; Please do not get me wrong, we are pleased that your club is
interested in participating in the Tour as one of our goals is to provide
another opportunity for fellow Jaguar owners to enjoy their choice in
vehicle ownership and we feel it is an added benefit to enjoy the
comradery of other owners we can meet on a Tour such as this as some
tourers will be traveling perhaps a couple of Sectors while others may be
traveling the entire route. 
&nbsp; 
We may have a problem adjusting the
routing at this late date though.&nbsp; We have been organizing the Tour
for over the past year, as I mentioned, and have already set some dates
for certain areas so we can specifically attend certain events in those
areas.&nbsp; Therefore I am uncertain whether it will be possible to
adjust the routing for this first Tour without negatively affecting other
Sector schedules.&nbsp; We can absolutely include the San Diego area in
the next Tour, I just cannot answer for this coming year at this
time.&nbsp; I am forwarding my response to my fellow Executive Committee
members and we shall take a look into this routing change.&nbsp; We will
have to discuss this with each of the Sector Coordinators
&quot;downstream&quot; of your location and see what affect it will have
on their plans. 
&nbsp; 
Do you have a feel for or better yet a
solid number of people from your Club which are interested in
participating at this time?&nbsp; Do you have some events or sites which
you could mention to help us with the decision?&nbsp; If we could revise
the Tour at this point, it looks as though it would be in your area
around the first week of May 2004.&nbsp; Perhaps a Tour of or dinner
hosted by the Jaguar Headquarters?&nbsp; Or something along those
lines? 
&nbsp; 
Jamie Duffey - Everett, WA 
88 Series III V12 VdP - Roxanne 
89 XJS V12 Convertible 2 Seater - ???? 
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour -
<a href="http://jonat.org">http://jonat.org</a> 
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004 

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<dd>From:</b> <a href="mailto:hazelbeck@worldnet.att.net">Hazel A.
Beck</a> <br>

<dd>To:</b> <a href="mailto:admin@jonat.org">admin@jonat.org</a> <br>

<dd>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:12 AM<br>

<dd>Subject:</b> JONAT Route<br><br>

<dd><font face="Comic Sans MS" size=3 color="#800080">Hi...my name is
Hazel Beck, 1st VP of the San Diego Jaguar Club...just wanted to throw
our hat into the ring to be added to the Tour Route...we are a very
active club with 180 members...there is also a large Jaguar Club (JOC)
in&nbsp; southern Orange County, just north of us...and Jaguar North
American headquarters (part of the Premier Auto Group) is located in
Irvine...Orange County again.<br>
</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font face="Comic Sans MS" size=3 color="#800080">From Las Vegas, we
are an easy 4-5 hour drive south...it would be easy to do Highway 101
(the Coastal Highway) up from San Diego through Orange County an up to
Los Angeles...it takes less than an hour to get to Orange County and
additional hour from there to LA...it would add a fabulous dimension of
automotive history (cruising the 101) and stunning vistas to the
tour.<br>
</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font face="Comic Sans MS" size=3 color="#800080">So...this is a
formal appeal to add San Diego, America's Finest City, to the
JONAT.&nbsp; Please feel free to call me if we can help.<br>
</font>
<dd>&nbsp;<br>

<dd><font face="Comic Sans MS" size=3 color="#800080">Regards.<br>

<dd>Hazel A. Beck<br>

<dd>858.638.0011<br>
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