[JONAT] JONAT 06
Bob
jonat@autox.team.net
Wed Dec 1 22:19:02 2004
I would tend to agree with Victor. As someone commented, we had great
participation from some sectors, and disappointments in others.
The central meeting point idea is one that was discussed during the very
early stages of JONAT'04 and indeed an idea that merits further discussion.
Someone also mention strengthened ties with JCNA, which I believe is a good
idea. Also strengthening ties to Jaguar itself would I think be helpful.
As Fazal pointed out, planning should be starting shortly for '06 if we want
to improve on our '04 successes ... and I am pleased to see that I think
this recent series of e-mails marks the transition from a debriefing of '04
and the start of planning of '06.
Where do we start? (the discussions I mean)
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Victor Krisel
Sent: December 1, 2004 2:24 PM
To: jonat@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [JONAT] JONAT 06
Dave wrote... "Has anyone ever questioned a basic premise of the tour - that
there are a
number of persons who can and want to take 2-3 months off and drive around
the continent at an average cost of several hundred dollars a night?"
I do not think that anyone REALLY expected someone to take the whole tour
from start to finish. In the clarity of hindsight (20-20 vision etc.) there
is no doubt that changes would have to be made as the "success" of each
Sector varied widely.
There were some very good comments made by some of the SC's and ASC's after
the completion of their Sector legs as to what worked and what did not. For
a first attempt, it was a *qualified* success IMO, but there are aspects
that need to be revisited and changed using the lessons learned from the
2004 experience if another Tour is to be held in '06.
My suggestion is to review these comments and perhaps come up with a
proposal for discussion that would incorporate some of the recommendations.
Dave's idea of "an event with a central meeting point" is something that I
believe merits some serious consideration.
Victor Krisel
Toronto SC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Booth" <jbooth@cogeco.ca>
To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
Cc: <jonat-admin@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JONAT] JONAT 06
> Dave wrote...
>
> " ... "Jay" and the rest of the materials went via Fedex to Colorado. ...
I
> don't recall anyone else falling
> to the zero level we reached between Texas and Colorado."
>
>
>
> I've heard that Jay got FedEx'd some distance on the east coast as well,
on
> the leg that headed back down to Florida. We also had a bump in a sector
> just before Toronto, where a participant had to double back to get Jay ...
>
>
>
> Cheers
> Jeff Booth
>
> Toronto leg ASC
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dave.belanger@exxonmobil.com>
> To: <jonat@autox.team.net>
> Cc: <jonat@autox.team.net>; <jonat-admin@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:24 AM
> Subject: RE: [JONAT] JONAT 06
>
>
> > Mark -
> >
> > By way of introduction, since I haven't participated in previous
> > discussions, I was the ASC who laid out the Texas leg, and I escorted
the
> > tour (one driver) from the border at Orange to Galveston, Due to
personal
> > commitments, I was unable to stay with the "tour" thru Houston and into
> > central Texas, and when Bill turned back to return to Florida, "Jay" and
> > the rest of the materials went via Fedex to Colorado. My observation as
I
> > read the subsequent reports was that other segments had some pretty low
> > levels of participation, too, although I don't recall anyone else
falling
> > to the zero level we reached between Texas and Colorado.
> >
> > Has anyone ever questioned a basic premise of the tour - that there are
a
> > number of persons who can and want to take 2-3 months off and drive
around
> > the continent at an average cost of several hundred dollars a night? I
> > suspect that there are not many who fall into this category, and this
may
> > be a factor in the low turnout and general lack of interest from the
local
> > clubs.
> >
> > As an alternative, have you considered an event with a central meeting
> > point? This could involve a number of convoys from all parts of N.
> > America, and no one would travel more than 1500 miles (3-4 days?). If,
> > eventually, the meeting point coincided with a JCNA event, such as the
> > Championship Challenge, I'm sure it would be a lot easier to bring them
on
> > board.
> > _______________________________________________________
> > Dave Belanger - UTeC / Planning & Security / Coordination
> > Greenway Plaza 3 / Room 620A (713) 431-4580
> >
> >
> >
> > "Mark Stephenson"
> > <marks@jaguarot.com> To:
> > jonat@autox.team.net
> > Sent by: cc:
> > jonat-admin@autox.tea Subject: RE: [JONAT]
> > JONAT 06
> > m.net
> >
> >
> >
> > 11/30/2004 11:38 PM
> > Please respond to
> > jonat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I think a discussion of the route and things like JCNA and sponsor
> > involvement would be appropriate. If JCNA is going to give us any kind
of
> > official sanction, it will have to be presented at the Annual General
> > Meeting (AGM) the end of March.
> >
> > I think if we can get JCNA behind us, local club participation will be a
> > lot
> > easier.
> >
> > Just a side note, everyone had so much fun last year on the Rt. 66 Fun
> > Run,
> > that I've been tapped to come up with a lead in to it this year.
> >
> > Mark - AZ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On
> > Behalf Of Fazal Cader
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 3:48 AM
> > To: jonat-EC/SC
> > Subject: [JONAT] JONAT 06
> >
> > Maybe I'm just a glutton for punishment but I was wondering if the
thought
> > of JONAT 06 is too much to think about right now? Or, whether we want to
> > do
> > it at all?
> >
> > Just that I had a chat with the GM of Jaguar Australia who has,
naturally,
> > direct lines into PAG and Dearborn and has said he is happy to assist
> > where
> > possible. If PAG get involved I guess it would be a start at Irvine,
> > heading
> > East this time and a visit to Ford HQ along the way, as well.
> >
> > Let me know.
> >
> > Fazal Cader
> > Executive Committee, ISC - Australia
> > Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - www.jonat.org
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