[JONAT] Controversy 102 ---> was Controversy 101

Fazal Cader jonat@autox.team.net
Tue Jan 27 20:16:01 2004


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Ok, club/Jag-related orgs members sans Jags can participate but at the =
back of the pack. Outsiders just wanting to come for a drive in their =
Chevy, no thank you. (Cant stop them driving along a public highway, =
anyway). And, no advertising this issue or public discussion, we'll deal =
with each one individually.
How's that?

Fazal Cader
Executive Committee, ISC - Australia
Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - www.jonat.org
April 15, 2004 - July 4, 2004


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ian Bailey=20
  To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 2:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [JONAT] Controversy 102 ---> was Controversy 101


  As Bob has stated in my Sector (Saskatchewan) we have a Jag club but =
some members presently do not have a Jag that can go on this trip. =
Though I think they are all trying to get a Jag, except our one Alpha =
owner who we forgive (by forgive I mean put up with because he buys =
coffee sometimes) mostly because he is Italian and we like him anyway.

  However, I have said previously that as long as we promote Jaguars, =
make it a "Jaguar" tour, get Jaguar sponsorship, etc. I see NO PROBLEM =
if a Jag club member joins us on this sector with his present non-Jaguar =
car (except the Alpha). This does not need to be advertised nor over =
discussed. It simply means a fellow car-lover and club member who is =
helping us out may come along. AND there will be no negative impact on =
the Tour, in fact, quite the opposite.=20

  That being said:....I would limit non-Jag cars completely to only Club =
members that are helping out in the organization etc. I see no reason to =
accept any non-Jaguar on the Tour who is not a member of the Sector 's =
sponsoring car club or organization.

  So I seem to fit in with all the other emails on this topic as I say =
we can have non-Jag cars and we can not have non-Jag cars. I think I =
will  now run for some office somewhere.

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Bob=20
    To: jonat@autox.team.net=20
    Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 7:28 AM
    Subject: [JONAT] Controversy 102 ---> was Controversy 101


    For my part I am quite strongly opposed to the "Non-Jags at the rear =
of the convoy approach" that has been discussed over he last bit.  One, =
it's a logistical PITA for the organizers. Two, it promotes clique-ism =
on the Tour.

    There likely won't be all that many non-Jags anyway.

    Anyone else feel the same (or do I run away and hide again!).

    Bob England
    '69 E-Type & '72 XJ6
    Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)
    Route Coordinator
    http://www.jonat.org


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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ok, club/Jag-related orgs&nbsp;members =
sans Jags=20
can participate but at the back of the pack. Outsiders just wanting to =
come for=20
a drive in their Chevy, no thank you. (Cant stop them driving along a =
public=20
highway, anyway). And, no advertising this issue or public discussion, =
we'll=20
deal with each one individually.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How's that?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Fazal Cader<BR>Executive Committee, ISC =
-=20
Australia<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour - <A=20
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org">www.jonat.org</A><BR>April 15, 2004 - July =
4,=20
2004</FONT></DIV>
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  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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  <A title=3Dibailey@cbnsystem.com =
href=3D"mailto:ibailey@cbnsystem.com">Ian=20
  Bailey</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 28, =
2004 2:29=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [JONAT] =
Controversy 102=20
  ---&gt; was Controversy 101</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As Bob has stated in my Sector =
(Saskatchewan) we=20
  have a Jag club but some members presently do not have a Jag that can =
go on=20
  this trip. Though I think they are all trying to get a Jag, except our =
one=20
  Alpha owner who we forgive (by forgive I mean put up with because he =
buys=20
  coffee sometimes)&nbsp;mostly because he is Italian and we like him=20
  anyway.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>However, I have said previously that =
as long as=20
  we promote Jaguars, make it a "Jaguar" tour, get Jaguar sponsorship, =
etc. I=20
  see NO PROBLEM if a Jag club member joins us on this sector with his =
present=20
  non-Jaguar car (except the Alpha). This does not need to be advertised =
nor=20
  over discussed. It simply means a fellow car-lover and club =
member&nbsp;who is=20
  helping us out may come along. AND there will be no negative impact on =
the=20
  Tour, in fact, quite the opposite.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That being said:....I would =
limit&nbsp;non-Jag=20
  cars&nbsp;completely to only Club members that are helping out in the=20
  organization etc. I see no reason to accept any non-Jaguar on the Tour =
who is=20
  not a member of the Sector 's sponsoring car club or=20
organization.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So I seem to fit in with all the =
other emails on=20
  this topic as I say we <STRONG><EM>can</EM></STRONG> have non-Jag cars =
and we=20
  <STRONG><EM>can not</EM></STRONG> have non-Jag cars. I think I =
will&nbsp; now=20
  run for some office somewhere.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Dengl@accesscomm.ca =
href=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca">Bob</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Djonat@autox.team.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:jonat@autox.team.net">jonat@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 27, =
2004 7:28=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [JONAT] Controversy =
102=20
    ---&gt; was Controversy 101</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D784291113-27012004>For my part I am quite strongly opposed =
to the=20
    "Non-Jags at the rear of the convoy approach" that has been =
discussed over=20
    he last bit.&nbsp; One, it's a logistical PITA for the organizers. =
Two, it=20
    promotes clique-ism on the Tour.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D784291113-27012004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D784291113-27012004>There likely won't be all that many =
non-Jags=20
    anyway.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D784291113-27012004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
    class=3D784291113-27012004>Anyone else feel the same (or do I run =
away and=20
    hide again!).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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    <P><FONT size=3D2><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000>Bob=20
    England<BR></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D1>'69 =
E-Type &amp; '72=20
    XJ6<BR>Jaguar Owner's North American Tour (JONAT)<BR>Route=20
    Coordinator<BR></FONT></STRONG></FONT><A =
href=3D"http://www.jonat.org/"><FONT=20
    face=3DArial color=3D#008000=20
    size=3D1><STRONG>http://www.jonat.org</STRONG></FONT></A></P></DIV>
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