[JONAT] AGM report

John McEwen jonat@autox.team.net
Tue Apr 5 18:33:02 2005


Thanks Mark:

Presumably, we could be seeing the Oilers next season - if there is 
one.  If the tour is planned for sometime before early June we should 
be in good shape - assuming we're in the playoffs.   Edmonton is 
probably Canada's most fanatical NHL hockey town as you know.  A 
whole lot of people are more productive as a result of the 
foolishness this year

The question of weather is one other concern if we're travelling 
through mountain legs in Canada.  April is a mite too early - unless 
people in open cars are prepared for 20' snowdrifts beside the road 
in the high country (above 4500').  As long as they stay beside the 
road, we'll be ok.  There was still plenty of snow when I drove out 
to Vancouver to join the tour in mid-May last year, and we ran into 
snow storms and rain on the Vancouver-Penticton leg following the 
Vancouver ABFM.  .

John


>John,
>
>That sounds great. I was thinking as I looked at a map, does that mean that
>we won't be seeing the Edmonton Oilers?. Of course no one is seeing the
>Edmonton Oilers or any NHL teams right now. I've found that I'm a lot more
>productive this winter, sadly.
>
>Mark
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On
>Behalf Of John McEwen
>Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 8:50 AM
>To: jonat@autox.team.net
>Subject: RE: [JONAT] AGM report
>
>Bob et al:
>
>I would be pleased to look after some kind of tour arrangements in Northern
>Alberta - which was omitted from the first tour.  Edmonton is North
>America's largest northern city with a great tradition of festivals, the
>arts and welcoming people.  It is set in beautiful and historic country on
>the Yellowhead Route, Canada's northern/western major route from Winnipeg to
>the Pacific.  A logical route, if the tour were to visit Regina first, would
>be a loop from there to Saskatoon, Edmonton and then on into BC via Jasper,
>Mt. Robson, and the N. Thompson valley to Kamloops, the Fraser Canyon and on
>to
>Vancouver.   Of course, this tour could run in either direction.
>
>Edmonton does have a Jaguar Drivers' Club, a Classic Sports Car Club, the
>Alberta All-British Motoring Society and a major Jaguar dealership, as well
>as a strong tradition of British car ownership, racing and rallying.  We are
>also adjacent to the site of the world-class Reynolds-Alberta Museum of
>Transportation, a major government facility.  Edmonton is arguably one of
>the greatest "car towns" anywhere and has a huge number of car-related
>clubs, car hobbyists and car activities.
>
>John McEwen
>JCNA Member at Large
>JONAT #13
>
>
>>Marc
>>
>>To answer your question regarding the northern portion of the Tour, Jay
>>had a nice comfortable ride in Jaguars all the way from Vancouver to
>>Winnipeg then down to Minneapolis.  I think Jay was accompanied by a
>>convoy of one only from Dundurn to Winnipeg itself, the rest of the way
>>I think thee was at least 2 cars.  Alan in Winnipeg did have difficulty
>>getting local support though as I recall.
>>
>>As a thought, we should likely nominate someone to start communications
>>with the previous SC's directly to get the ball rolling.  As a head
>>count, how many SC's and ASC's are out there still on this list ...
>>
>>Perhaps the ASC's / ASC's please could just send a brief note back to
>>this list.
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: jonat-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:jonat-admin@autox.team.net] On
>>Behalf Of Mark Stephenson
>>Sent: April 5, 2005 2:53 AM
>>To: jonat@autox.team.net; papineaus@aol.com
>>Subject: RE: [JONAT] AGM report
>>
>>[Ray, I added you to the distribution of this e-mail because it looks
>>like you are in charge of the 2006 AGM planning. As I mentioned at the
>>AGM, we are organizing a continental JCNA road tour. After the meeting
>>it occurred to a couple of us that the AGM would be an excellent place
>>to start. You might want to contact Bob England at
>>engl_at_accesscomm_dot_ca (converting the underscores and words to
>>punctuation) about getting on the JONAT list so you can follow our
>  >discussion. We are hoping that Pascal Gademer and Greg Meboe (JONAT
>>webmaster) can get together to transfer the JONAT info and lists to the
>  >JCNA website. Greg and Jamie Duffey, a couple of Jaguar enthusiasts and
>>2004 JONAT organizers are from the Seattle area.]
>>
>>Ray Papineau, Bob, and everyone,
>>
>>Yes, we definitely need to have some kind of "baton." We could have
>>another Jay named Mark and call him Mark 1, or since he's the second,
>>Mark 2. You'd just have to be clear if you're talking about him or me.
>>
>>If we have any returning Sector Coordinators who aren't affiliated with
>>a club, I'd respectfully request that they contact the club and pull an
>>ASC from the club's ranks. If you were a member of a club and there is
>>another club in the area, you might contact them and see if they can
>provide an ASC.
>>The key to our success is going to be club involvement.
>>
>>Ray, I checked your site and JCNA's and I couldn't find the AGM dates.
>>What are they?
>>
>>Given the starting point and approximate 3time, my thought is that
>>we'll run the route in reverse, coming down the West Coast, then across
>>Arizona. Since everyone from Washington, Oregon, and California did
>>such an excellent job last year, I'm all for giving any of those clubs and
>individuals first dibs.
>>
>>
>>By the same token, it would be nice if we hit some of the places we
>>missed last time. For example, If Las Vegas wants to be involved, we
>>might tie them in this time around, by heading toward LA then cutting
>>across. A visit to the Peterson Museum is always fun and a spur from
>>San Diego to LA to meet the group there with some or all of the San
>>Diegans continuing to Vegas would hopefully be interesting. My local
>>club (JCCA) is having our Saloons in the Old West Concours, April 17
>>this year, and it ties in with the Copperstate 1000 Road Rally
>(www.jcca.us/calendar/saloons05.htm).
>>
>>Based on last year's timing it took 13 days to get from the Arizona
>>border to Seattle. It might be a tad warm in the Arizona deserts after
>>that, but I think we could squeak by in Mid-April, especially if we
>>adjust our drive times to avoid the heat of the day. We would be right
>>about on schedule to tie the tour with the Copperstate 1000 Road Rally
>>and our concours. Then we could head down to Tucson, Tombstone (site of
>>the OK Corral), and Bisbee, which is right on the Mexican border. There
>>are some great ghost towns along the way.  This would create a San
>>Diego loop -- a nice week-long excursion from there to LA to Vegas to
>>Phoenix to Tucson to Bisbee and back. If Las Vegas doesn't want to get
>>involved, we can go further south and have San Diego be part of the
>>main loop rather than a spur. It would be interesting to hear from Hazel on
>the idea.
>>
>>So I can sort of figure it out that far. (Grab an atlas or map.) After
>>Arizona we hit an expanse of clublessness. 2004 Participant Jag Maven
>>is from Albuquerque. We might get a few of his Alb. buddies to take the
>>torch from S. AZ toward Texas, but route from S AZ to Texas is about
>>220 miles south of Alb. It's a beautiful drive north up the east side
>>of Arizona on US 191. That would make a great loop for us Arizonans and
>>perhaps we could hand off in Springerville, AZ at US60. US60 crosses
>>I-25 at Socorro, NM, about an hour south of Alb. From there you could
>>follow US380 the whole way to Dallas. Unfortunately, it's over 600
>>miles from I-25. I have no idea how interesting the road is. Roswell,
>>NM is along the route. Surely the Dallas
>>club(s) will come out and meet the tour. Would they come out 2-300
>>miles? A SC in El Paso would be a big help.
>>
>>From Dallas we have clubs all along the Gulf Coast and up the East
>>Coast into Canada. That will really just be a matter of who wants to do
>>it. It's coming back across the Northern Great Plains (and by that I mean
>in the U.S.
>>and Canada) where I anticipate a problem. At that latitude, I think
>>Wisconsin is our furthest west club until we get to BC and WA. This
>>makes a really tough decision. The whole way across Canada or drop down
>>to Illinois and Missouri, then cross clubless Iowa to Colorado and Utah
>  >and on to Portland and the Western States Meet. There are gaps there,
>  >but there's a huge clubless gap across three provinces as well.
>>
>>Last time around we had you and Ian Bailey in Sask., Craig Talbot in
>>Alberta, and Alan Heartfield in Man. Did we have to FedEx Jay across
>>some of that? Where? I definitely don't want to leave you out of the
>>loop, and as I recall, there were something like four cars for a good
>>distance in the Western Provinces. As a percentage of the population of
>>the area that's a great turnout. Was Manitoba the weak link? If so,
>>that this option might be the best. Go to Salt Lake City via the second
>option above, then head north.
>>Somehow get across Wyoming and Montana (a visit to Yellowstone would be
>>incredible), and up to Regina, then across and down to Portland via the
>>Cascades or along the Columbia River.
>>
>>What does everyone think of that as a rough framework?
>>
>>There are some solid sponsorship options out there, one of which will
>>be great. Dennis Eynon has the contacts for that and as soon as we are
>>a bit more organized and have information posted that he can refer them
>>to, I'll have him go to work. We aren't going to have many national
>>sponsors, so that leaves a lot of JCNA sponsors like XKs Unlimited,
>>Coventry West, and others available to cover expenses for local clubs and
>sectors.
>>
>>So has anyone heard anything from Greg Meboe? Getting him and Pascal
>>together is the first step.
>>
>>Until then, let's keep brainstorming.
>>
>>Mark - JCNA
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