[Kcup] Eagles Canyon 2014

Barr, Scott sbarr at McCarty-Law.com
Sat Apr 13 06:26:06 MDT 2013


I agree.  Do we know whether there are any other proposals in the pipeline?

Scott B.

Scott Barr
McCarty Law LLP
(920) 257-2233
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Henry Frye <henry at henryfrye.com> wrote:

My two cents... First and foremost, if Kas is onboard, that certainly
works for me.

Geographically, the location is south centrally located, so that's a
plus to many. Seems like a nice and fair location after where the last
few K-Cups have been run. Looks like a 26 hour tow for me. I doubt I can
pull that one off.

I think Jason's point about the support the Texas FOT has shown by
making the long tows is commendable, and certainly worth rewarding.

If no other proposals are in the pipeline that should be considered, I
think we should give Bob the green light to see if we can get all out
cars in, get a feature race on the schedule, get an All-Triumphs
practice session, etc.

I think we need to think about the issue of these Vintage sanctioning
bodies accepting our SCCA cars. Should this be a
deal breaker?



Henry Frye
Triumph Technology Consultants
860.508.3118 (c)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: kcup-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:kcup-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Kramer
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:45 AM
> To: kcup at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Kcup] Eagles Canyon 2014
>
> Joe mentioned that the RMVR proposal for 2014 K-CUP has been
> taken off the table. Are there any others? If we are ready to
> move forward I'll get the negotiation ball rolling  so I can
> hold out our commitment to them until we get what we want.
> For example, we  need to see how far we can push CVAR with
> waivers for non-vintage cars. This might be a little tougher
> with the British Small bore group. I doubt they'll let
> non-vintage cars run it that race, but we can squeeze
> everything up to the TR6's in CVASR groups. I'd have some arm
> twisting to do to accommodate TR7/8's so we would want to
> know if any of those would be coming.
>
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> I have heard from Joe and he tells me that Kas is onboard if
> we choose ECR. We need to hear from the steering Committee to
> know that we are all in agreement, or not.  What do you all think?
>
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> Bob Kramer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Kramer <bkramer at ascoeq.com>
> To: kcup <kcup at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, Apr 9, 2013 1:38 pm
> Subject: [Kcup] K Cup 2014 Proposal
>
> Friends
>
>
>
> I am not sure who all is on the K Cup mailing list but I'm
> sure you will all be interested in hearing what the Texas FOT
> has to propose for 2014. We hoping to offer up a K-Cup
> opportunity here in Austin at the Circuit of the Americas F-1
> track, but alas, the daily rental rate for the track has
> prohibited our Texas based vintage group from coming to terms
> with the COTA people to pull off an annual vintage race at
> COTA. It may be possible in the future but for now they are
> still rigid on their pricing and putting on an event there is
> way too risky for our non-profit club.  If you want to race
> at COTA, there will be an HSR now SVRA-West event there this October.
>
>
>
> What we would like to propose is an event at Eagles Canyon
> Raceway. There are a couple of reasons why ECR is a better
> venue for the K-Cup than COTA. First there is the location.
> ECR is in north Texas, about an hour north of Fort Worth near
> Decatur TX.  Driving in from all directions makes ECR a
> reasonable tow for folks in the Midwest and the southeast,
> 12.5 hours from Moline IL and Atlanta GA. It is 20 hours from
> LA, but still doable. Second, the CVAR Marvelous May event is
> held at ECR and includes a British Small Bore race each year,
> and we qualify for entry at no extra charge. The 2014 date is
> tbd but the 2013 date is May 17-19. This is early enough in
> the year that the northern folks may be able to make it the
> first race of the year, meaning fresh engines! Thirdly, CVAR
> will let us run in our regular race groups and give us a
> Triumph only qualifying session and  the K-Cup race. The
> groups separate the pre 1961 TR3's in Group 4, the Spitfires
> in Group 2 and GT6's, TR4 and TR6's into Group 7. TR8's would
> have to get a special waiver to run in Group 1 but I think I
> can talk them in to that. Lastly CVAR is affordable, $300.00
> for Sat-Sun and $100.00 for Friday Test and Tune, which
> alternates between open and closed wheel sessions and will
> wear you out while you learn the track. You will want to do
> test and tune as the track takes a while to master.
>
>
>
> So there is the basic outlines of a proposal for the 2014
> Kastner Cup race if it were to be held in Texas. There is one
> final benefit to holding it in Texas. We have 10 FOT racing
> in Texas now, and we keep growing. One of the great things
> about the Kastner Cup has been getting us all together and 10
> cars isn't a bad place to start running the numbers up. If
> that isn't enough, Bobby Whitehead lives fairly close to ECR.
> We can all descend on his Pawn Shop and raise some havoc.
>
>
>
> Please respond to all with your thoughts.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
> Bob Kramer
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