[Mg-mmm] FW: NA-0686

[bispmotala]

Bob
I agree with Chris.
Barry's information was probably based on data printed in the 60s and later
proved not correct by Mike Allison no less.

Also it makes sense as engines where finished, and painted elsewhere and
allocated to chassis randomly.

Mine are red. I like it. Perhaps some other year the Wolseley factory had a
huge offer on green and used that instead.

Good luck.

Sven
Sweden
L types

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Fren: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]
Fvr Chris Nowlan
Skickat: den 26 april 2009 02:49
Till: 'MG-MMM'
Dmne: Re: [Mg-mmm] FW: NA-0686

Bob,

	My L2 engine/gearbox was red and since the gearbox had never been
repainted, gave a very good indication of colour.  I do believe the color!
was exactly the same as T-series red.  John Mecray sent me some photos of
some spare gearbox bits which quite clearly show the colour, I'll send these
separately.

	Good luck with the N-engine rebuild.

Cheers,

Chris Nowlan

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Bob Grunau
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:42 PM
To: taterry at pacbell.net; MG-MMM
Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] FW: NA-0686

Hi Terry,
Thanks re colour ( notice I spell it correctly ). Personally I like the
red/maroon. This car will be a driver, not show car .

Does the copper head gasket not come annealed from headgasket .com??,

I will lighten the flywheel, way more than already done. I can't send photos
to MMM but if somebody wants a photo of my PA light flywheel ( same as NA ),
email me. A LOT of weight taken off. Much more than shown in the MMM
yearbook.

Freight from the UK was combined with a wire wheel order I had coming, so
hard to say as the block and crank came on the same shipment. However I
bought 11 wire wheels and the block and crank and total sea freight was
$537.00 Cdn$, about $430.00 US$. Everything came on one pallet.

In Canada there is no duty on antique car parts intended for cars over 30
years old, so no duty.

Best regards, Bob Grunau


        Bob, engine color is a huge controversy, has always been.  Per Barry
Walker (does any know more about MMM cars than he? ;-)  sez in his catalog
that 4 seaters had green engines, 2 seaters had red/maroon.  Lew Palmer ran
a survey a few years ago and a surprising number of engines were reported
green.  I painted my green since besides Barry's catalog, I had some nice
stuff left over from my SA engine....I have the formula if you need it.

        I used solid copper but didn't anneal it properly first time around.
You use oxy/accel to get it hot enough.  They are available from Los
Angeles: http://www.headgasket.com/

        I had my flywheel lightened as per one tip in one of the
yearbooks.....nothing to compare to but the original was very heavy and
maybe why so many original cranks broke/cracked.

        Just for my info.  how much was the freight from the UK and did you
get stuck with some duty?

        Terry

        --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Bob Grunau <grunau.garage at sympatico.ca> wrote:

          From: Bob Grunau <grunau.garage at sympatico.ca>
          Subject: [Mg-mmm] FW: NA-0686
          To: "MG-MMM" <mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
          Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 1:09 PM


Hi  Guys,
Just a short NA-0686 engine update. I have received the new block and
Phoenix crankshaft from Peter Green in the UK. They look very good. I
delivered them to the machine shop guy John this morning, he liked the new
parts. John does specialty engine work on weekends and the NA engine is next
on the list after he completes an MGA twin cam engine.   I hope the rebuild
of the engine goes smoothly with these new parts.

Questions:
1-, what is the proper engine colour ( supplier and colour code please ) for
the 1935 MG NA 4 seat open tourer and what type of paint to be used to stop
it flaking off the new engine. Old engine colour is now MG TC/TD/TF maroon
colour. This looks OK to me but thought somebody might know the
"correct"
colour.

2-Should I go for a solid copper head gasket or use the original type
copper/asbestos? If solid copper, who is a good supplier, hopefully in North
America.

3-What is the thinking on flywheel lightening. The NA flywheel has been
lightened a bit but not nearly as much as my PA engine flywheel. Is lighter
better?? I can send photos of the light PA flywheel to those interested.

Hopefully NA-0686 will be on the road this summer.
Bob
Bob Grunau
150 Pinewood Trail
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada, L5G-2L1
905-274-4136
grunau.garage at sympatico.ca
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