From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Tue Sep  1 04:43:19 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 11:43:19 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] test
Message-ID: <6A2E083E4AE04194BBF2A19DAE9CC5E9@paul>

test
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Tue Sep  1 04:46:52 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 11:46:52 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Seat Belts
Message-ID: <D097F5AE36A042EABFF560F1980B542E@paul>

I may be wrong, but this looks suspiciously like an attempt to infect my
computer in case anyone else has received it or something like it.  Needless
to say I haven't clicked on the link, which I have disabled below.

PaulH.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <barneymg at mgaguru.com>
To: <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Mgs] Seat Belts


Hi!
This is regarding our last dialogue. I've prepared a new presentation - you
can check it for errors.
(a 'bluewirega' URL that I've deleted)
Password: 1306

Didn't get the original of this (which happens from time to time) but seat
belts can have two methods of locking.  One is when the car tilts or
decelerates more than a certain amount, the other is if the belt is yanked
out of the reel fast enough, and not all belts have both.
>
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 05:29:34 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 07:29:34 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGA sighting
In-Reply-To: <000001d67fed$5a97c1c0$0fc74540$@ranteer.com>
References: <000001d67fed$5a97c1c0$0fc74540$@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+nUsaXqKydz-V+sCs-9ZtYQwE8sV5QZQt02+VF3Ju99QA@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds like an interesting place. They also have a Ducati hanging above a
table - not sure I'd want to eat dinner under that if the reputation of
Italian bikes is the same as British cars (i.e., a tendency towards marking
their territory...!).

Speaking of marking territory, my wife's MINI Cooper is currently doing
same intermittently. Looks like with coolant which, of course, I can't get
to replicate when I drive it....

Dan D
'76 MGB (in surgery)
'65 MGB (long-term project and squirrel house)
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 7:26 PM dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> I was just west of downtown Dallas today and came across this sign.
>
>
>
> Apparently it?s a swanky steak house with the MGA parked prominently inside
>
>
>
>
> https://www.dallasnews.com/food/restaurant-reviews/2017/04/26/town-hearth-may-be-the-swankiest-most-fabulous-steakhouse-on-the-planet/
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 05:30:23 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 07:30:23 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Seat Belts
In-Reply-To: <D097F5AE36A042EABFF560F1980B542E@paul>
References: <D097F5AE36A042EABFF560F1980B542E@paul>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+nFQFLsBt1NjvGzn6PdFGWUdz-e11T5M+GGhYFhJHTxcA@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like Barney is just messing with you in particular, Paul....

Dan D
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 6:44 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
wrote:

> I may be wrong, but this looks suspiciously like an attempt to infect my
> computer in case anyone else has received it or something like it.
> Needless
> to say I haven't clicked on the link, which I have disabled below.
>
> PaulH.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <barneymg at mgaguru.com>
> To: <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 7:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [Mgs] Seat Belts
>
>
> Hi!
> This is regarding our last dialogue. I've prepared a new presentation - you
> can check it for errors.
> (a 'bluewirega' URL that I've deleted)
> Password: 1306
>
> Didn't get the original of this (which happens from time to time) but seat
> belts can have two methods of locking.  One is when the car tilts or
> decelerates more than a certain amount, the other is if the belt is yanked
> out of the reel fast enough, and not all belts have both.
> >
> ...
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive
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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 06:10:03 2020
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 08:10:03 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGA sighting
In-Reply-To: <CABxEc+nUsaXqKydz-V+sCs-9ZtYQwE8sV5QZQt02+VF3Ju99QA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000001d67fed$5a97c1c0$0fc74540$@ranteer.com>
 <CABxEc+nUsaXqKydz-V+sCs-9ZtYQwE8sV5QZQt02+VF3Ju99QA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E20E251-7482-477F-9377-884EC086A8BF@gmail.com>

   Is it true that the sumps of Ducati bikes were filled with 30w Olive Oil?
Bob


> On Sep 1, 2020, at 7:29 AM, Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like an interesting place. They also have a Ducati hanging above a table - not sure I'd want to eat dinner under that if the reputation of Italian bikes is the same as British cars (i.e., a tendency towards marking their territory...!).
> 
> Speaking of marking territory, my wife's MINI Cooper is currently doing same intermittently. Looks like with coolant which, of course, I can't get to replicate when I drive it....
> 
> Dan D
> '76 MGB (in surgery)
> '65 MGB (long-term project and squirrel house)
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 7:26 PM dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>> I was just west of downtown Dallas today and came across this sign. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Apparently it?s a swanky steak house with the MGA parked prominently inside
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://www.dallasnews.com/food/restaurant-reviews/2017/04/26/town-hearth-may-be-the-swankiest-most-fabulous-steakhouse-on-the-planet/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
>> Mgs at autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> 
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive
>> 
>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> 
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Tue Sep  1 05:53:09 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 12:53:09 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Seat Belts
References: <D097F5AE36A042EABFF560F1980B542E@paul>
 <CABxEc+nFQFLsBt1NjvGzn6PdFGWUdz-e11T5M+GGhYFhJHTxcA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <78A7FF4E897F4D6885DC260937A1CED3@paul>

Highly unlikely, I'd have said.

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan DiBiase 
  To: PaulHunt73 
  Cc: mglist 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2020 12:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mgs] Seat Belts


  Looks like Barney is just messing with you in particular, Paul....


  Dan D
  Central NJ USA

  http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/




  On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 6:44 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com> wrote:

    I may be wrong, but this looks suspiciously like an attempt to infect my
    computer in case anyone else has received it or something like it.  Needless
    to say I haven't clicked on the link, which I have disabled below.

    PaulH.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: <barneymg at mgaguru.com>
    To: <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
    Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 7:13 PM
    Subject: Re: Re: [Mgs] Seat Belts


    Hi!
    This is regarding our last dialogue. I've prepared a new presentation - you
    can check it for errors.
    (a 'bluewirega' URL that I've deleted)
    Password: 1306

    Didn't get the original of this (which happens from time to time) but seat
    belts can have two methods of locking.  One is when the car tilts or
    decelerates more than a certain amount, the other is if the belt is yanked
    out of the reel fast enough, and not all belts have both.
    >
    ...

    _______________________________________________

    Mgs at autox.team.net
    Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
    Suggested annual donation  $12.75

    Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive

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From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Sep  1 16:20:24 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 17:20:24 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] part needed
Message-ID: <003c01d680ae$16e353b0$44a9fb10$@ranteer.com>

Am looking for a clutch fork for a 56 MGA.  Anyone have one to sell?

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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Wed Sep  2 03:04:19 2020
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 09:04:19 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Steering Wheel
References: <981374009.156916.1599037459688.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <981374009.156916.1599037459688@mail.yahoo.com>

Anyone have an original steering wheel in restorable condition for a 69 MGB GT they would like to sell?Mike MacLean1969 MGB GT1960 Bugeye1956 BN2 LeMans
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Wed Sep  2 03:49:45 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 10:49:45 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Steering Wheel
References: <981374009.156916.1599037459688.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <981374009.156916.1599037459688@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <19B565C008074A55A4731315E02BB510@paul>

Depends where you are.  In the UK I got a good one from Andy Jennings, and Welsh MG also have decent used stuff.
  ----- Original Message ----- 


  Anyone have an original steering wheel in restorable condition for a 69 MGB GT they would like to sell?
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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Wed Sep  2 09:48:40 2020
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 15:48:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Steering Wheel
In-Reply-To: <19B565C008074A55A4731315E02BB510@paul>
References: <981374009.156916.1599037459688.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <981374009.156916.1599037459688@mail.yahoo.com>
 <19B565C008074A55A4731315E02BB510@paul>
Message-ID: <1903923356.2155308.1599061720399@mail.yahoo.com>

 I am unfortunately located in Southern California.Mike M

    On Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 3:16:05 AM PDT, PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com> wrote:  
 
  Depends where you are.? In the UK I got a good one from Andy Jennings, and Welsh MG also have decent used stuff.
 ----- Original Message -----  
  Anyone have an original steering wheel in restorable condition for a 69 MGB GT they would like to sell?
  
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From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Sep  2 12:01:25 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 13:01:25 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MGA clutch forks
Message-ID: <00b901d68153$13782d40$3a6887c0$@ranteer.com>

Suffered a small disaster - the pressure plate is damaged as is the clutch
fork.

 

Does anyone know - there are apparently several clutch forks for the A
transmission.  Are they interchangeable?

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From thgun at comporium.net  Wed Sep  2 12:14:48 2020
From: thgun at comporium.net (Thomas Gunderson)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 14:14:48 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Rubber replacement for side curtans
Message-ID: <C60BE25D-6ED7-4C1A-BE22-BFFD812A9CCB@comporium.net>


I need the rubber between the top of the door and the bottom rail of the window. Also My windows have a groove down the 
front that touches the windshield. Any rubber there?

1957 MGA rst
Tom Gunderson
Sent from my iPhone X




From barneymg at mgaguru.com  Wed Sep  2 16:12:38 2020
From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2020 17:12:38 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Seat Belts
In-Reply-To: <D097F5AE36A042EABFF560F1980B542E@paul>
References: <D097F5AE36A042EABFF560F1980B542E@paul>
Message-ID: <mailman.65.1599084769.2902.mgs@autox.team.net>

It is a spam/scam message, did not come from me.   And it is not my 
contacts list being hacked, because I dont have one.  All of ny 
contact information is in a separate text file that has no connection 
to the internet or to my email client software.

There has been a rash of this type of spam  e-mails on the internet 
in the last couple of weeks with a web link or attachment, looking 
like it came from a friend when it didn't.  This appears to me like 
the spammer is copying a legitimate email message, then sending a 
spam message to the same recipient while using the original sender's 
name and address in the From line. It commonly says something 
mysterious like, "This is in follow-up to our prior conversation", 
and "Click here".  If you don't understand it, dont click.  Contact 
your frield to see if it really came from him.


At 05:46 AM 9/1/2020, PaulHunt73 wrote:
>I may be wrong, but this looks suspiciously like an attempt to infect my
>computer in case anyone else has received it or something like it.  Needless
>to say I haven't clicked on the link, which I have disabled below.
>
>PaulH.


>----- Original Message -----
>From: <<mailto:barneymg at mgaguru.com>barneymg at mgaguru.com>
>To: <<mailto:paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
>Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 7:13 PM
>Subject: Re: Re: [Mgs] Seat Belts
>
>Hi!
>This is regarding our last dialogue. I've prepared a new presentation - you
>can check it for errors.
>(a 'bluewirega' URL that I've deleted)
>Password: 1306
>
>Didn't get the original of this (which happens from time to time) but seat
>belts can have two methods of locking.  One is when the car tilts or
>decelerates more than a certain amount, the other is if the belt is yanked
>out of the reel fast enough, and not all belts have both.
> >
>...
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Thu Sep  3 01:44:47 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 08:44:47 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] MGA clutch forks
References: <00b901d68153$13782d40$3a6887c0$@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <3B51B85218FB41CDB8BEFF7592FA87EA@paul>

I wouldn't have though that release arm was beyond reuse from that image.
  ----- Original Message ----- 


  Suffered a small disaster - the pressure plate is damaged as is the clutch fork.
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From lawrence.swift at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 10:24:30 2020
From: lawrence.swift at gmail.com (Team.net)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 12:24:30 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Seat Belts
In-Reply-To: <20200902221318.03D8EA0FAA@autox.team.net>
References: <D097F5AE36A042EABFF560F1980B542E@paul>
 <20200902221318.03D8EA0FAA@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <86A00834-A499-45BE-BBD7-26848DEB3D86@gmail.com>

Yep, I have been getting lots of these.

> On Sep 2, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Barney Gaylord <barneymg at mgaguru.com> wrote:
> 
> It is a spam/scam message, did not come from me.   And it is not my contacts list being hacked, because I dont have one.  All of ny contact information is in a separate text file that has no connection to the internet or to my email client software.
> 
> There has been a rash of this type of spam  e-mails on the internet in the last couple of weeks with a web link or attachment, looking like it came from a friend when it didn't.  This appears to me like the spammer is copying a legitimate email message, then sending a spam message to the same recipient while using the original sender's name and address in the From line. It commonly says something mysterious like, "This is in follow-up to our prior conversation", and "Click here".  If you don't understand it, dont click.  Contact your frield to see if it really came from him.
> 
> 
> At 05:46 AM 9/1/2020, PaulHunt73 wrote:
>> I may be wrong, but this looks suspiciously like an attempt to infect my
>> computer in case anyone else has received it or something like it.  Needless
>> to say I haven't clicked on the link, which I have disabled below.
>> 
>> PaulH.
> 
> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <barneymg at mgaguru.com <mailto:barneymg at mgaguru.com>>
>> To: < paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com <mailto:paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>>
>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2020 7:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: Re: [Mgs] Seat Belts
>> 
>> Hi!
>> This is regarding our last dialogue. I've prepared a new presentation - you
>> can check it for errors.
>> (a 'bluewirega' URL that I've deleted)
>> Password: 1306
>> 
>> Didn't get the original of this (which happens from time to time) but seat
>> belts can have two methods of locking.  One is when the car tilts or
>> decelerates more than a certain amount, the other is if the belt is yanked
>> out of the reel fast enough, and not all belts have both.
>> >
>> ...
> _______________________________________________
> 
> Mgs at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From thgun at comporium.net  Thu Sep  3 16:25:20 2020
From: thgun at comporium.net (Thomas Gunderson)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 18:25:20 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Clarkes Spares
Message-ID: <045C65D6-102F-4FF3-BE33-9B455676C188@comporium.net>

Does anybody know if they still sell parts? I call and the phone never answers.

Sent from my iPhone X




From rpschauss at gmail.com  Sun Sep  6 17:33:49 2020
From: rpschauss at gmail.com (Peter Schauss)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 19:33:49 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGB tires
Message-ID: <CAC8_WWP07m5O1ZKN4s1VKzLt1rviJYQg2wnArjY6GZhkQMJkMw@mail.gmail.com>

What size/brand are people using these days?   The ones that I have on my
car are Michelin Harmony 84S 175-70/14.

I am happy with their performance, but they  are ten years old so I need to
replace them.

Thanks
Peter Schauss
198O MGB
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From steve at shoyer.com  Sun Sep  6 19:19:42 2020
From: steve at shoyer.com (Steve Shoyer)
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2020 21:19:42 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGB tires
In-Reply-To: <CAC8_WWP07m5O1ZKN4s1VKzLt1rviJYQg2wnArjY6GZhkQMJkMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAC8_WWP07m5O1ZKN4s1VKzLt1rviJYQg2wnArjY6GZhkQMJkMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e4b413d3-e5c7-4804-b7e0-8299711b3c2b@shoyer.com>

I replaced my old 1990-something tires with a set of Michelin Defender 180/70R14 about a month ago. They seem OK - I haven't put too many miles on them yet, but they fit the car (Rostyle wheels) and they were on sale. The cost was just under $400 including mounting and balancing.

--Steve (1980 MGB) 

On Sep 6, 2020, 7:35 PM, at 7:35 PM, Peter Schauss <rpschauss at gmail.com> wrote:
>What size/brand are people using these days?   The ones that I have on
>my
>car are Michelin Harmony 84S 175-70/14.
>
>I am happy with their performance, but they  are ten years old so I
>need to
>replace them.
>
>Thanks
>Peter Schauss
>198O MGB
>
>
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>
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>
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From paul at ece.rochester.edu  Mon Sep  7 07:41:11 2020
From: paul at ece.rochester.edu (Osborne, Paul)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 13:41:11 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] [EXT]   MGB tires
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Peter,   I just replaced with :

                 Hankook Kinergy ST H735 All Season Tire - 175/70R14 84T
As I am not a performance driver these are serving me well on my BGT.


On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Peter Schauss <rpschauss at gmail.com<mailto:rpschauss at gmail.com>> wrote:

What size/brand are people using these days?   The ones that I have on my car are Michelin Harmony 84S 175-70/14.

I am happy with their performance, but they  are ten years old so I need to replace them.

Thanks
Peter Schauss
198O MGB

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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 07:48:22 2020
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Exactly the same size I'm using. Circumference matches OEM just fine.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020, 8:41 AM Osborne, Paul <paul at ece.rochester.edu> wrote:

> Peter,   I just replaced with :
>
>                  Hankook Kinergy ST H735 All Season Tire - 175/70R14 84T
> As I am not a performance driver these are serving me well on my BGT.
>
>
> On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Peter Schauss <rpschauss at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What size/brand are people using these days?   The ones that I have on my
> car are Michelin Harmony 84S 175-70/14.
>
> I am happy with their performance, but they  are ten years old so I need
> to replace them.
>
> Thanks
> Peter Schauss
> 198O MGB
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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Mon Sep  7 10:34:19 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 18:34:19 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] MGB tires
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185R14 on the wire wheels. Fulda and these do a good job.

In the boot it is the standard 165R14. Another size does not fit in the crampy space?

 

Cheers,

Hans ?71 BGT NRG

 

Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens Peter Schauss
Verzonden: maandag 7 september 2020 01:34
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Onderwerp: [Mgs] MGB tires

 

What size/brand are people using these days?   The ones that I have on my car are Michelin Harmony 84S 175-70/14.

 

I am happy with their performance, but they  are ten years old so I need to replace them.  

 

Thanks 

Peter Schauss 

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From jmartiniii at yahoo.com  Wed Sep  9 16:17:35 2020
From: jmartiniii at yahoo.com (Joel Martin)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 22:17:35 +0000 (UTC)
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     On Tuesday, September 8, 2020, 10:39:10 AM EDT, Joel Martin <jmartiniii at yahoo.com> wrote:  
 
  I bought (Discount Tire Direct and installed locally 185/70R14 Falken Pro Touring A/S Tires ran $270.32 for 4 and $14 per tire install and balance. 

I chose to just take the tires and wheels to the shop so I could reinstall with torque wrench set on 60 pounds for styled steel wheels on 1973 MGB. Impact wrenches could damage our stud holes if put on too tightly.

Numerous other changes such as poly bushings, new steering rack (230K on original), solid alloy 3/4 sway bar mounting brackets from Moss. All in all, corners very flat. Tires seem just fine with the new changes, though only about 600 miles on them since June but no complaints up to this point.

Previous tires were Sumitomo HTR 200 from 2009 (about 2/32's left on tread and 12 years old) and before that Yokohama A008's (many sets) which were my favorite but neither of these are available. The Falken's were rated and reviewed better for wet and dry weather handling.

Our sizes are getting harder and harder to find and seem to made with mini van's in mind.

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What size/brand are people using these days? ? The ones that I have on my car are Michelin Harmony 84S 175-70/14.
I am happy with their performance, but they ?are ten years old so I need to replace?them. ?
Thanks?Peter Schauss?198O MGB?
I replaced my old 1990-something tires with a set of Michelin Defender 180/70R14 about a month ago. They seem OK - I haven't put too many miles on them yet, but they fit the car (Rostyle wheels) and they were on sale. The cost was just under $400 including mounting and balancing.

--Steve (1980 MGB)  Peter, ? I just replaced with : ?

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Hankook Kinergy ST H735 All Season Tire - 175/70R14 84T
As I am not a performance driver these are serving me well on my BGT.


On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Peter Schauss <rpschauss at gmail.com> wrote:
What size/brand are people using these days? ? The ones that I have on my car are Michelin Harmony 84S 175-70/14.
I am happy with their performance, but they ?are ten years old so I need to replace?them. ?
Thanks?Peter Schauss?198O MGB?
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Exactly the same size I'm using. Circumference matches OEM just fine.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020, 8:41 AM Osborne, Paul <paul at ece.rochester.edu> wrote:

Peter, ? I just replaced with : ?

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Hankook Kinergy ST H735 All Season Tire - 175/70R14 84T
As I am not a performance driver these are serving me well on my BGT.


On Sep 6, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Peter Schauss <rpschauss at gmail.com> wrote:
What size/brand are people using these days? ? The ones that I have on my car are Michelin Harmony 84S 175-70/14.
I am happy with their performance, but they ?are ten years old so I need to replace?them. ?
Thanks?Peter Schauss?198O MGB?
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185R14 on the wire wheels. Fulda and these do a good job.

In the boot it is the standard 165R14. Another size does not fit in the crampy space?

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Cheers,

Hans ?71 BGT NRG

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What size/brand are people using these days? ? The ones that I have on my car are Michelin Harmony 84S 175-70/14.

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I am happy with their performance, but they ?are ten years old so I need to replace?them. ?

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Thanks?

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From mvheim at sonic.net  Wed Sep  9 17:04:32 2020
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 16:04:32 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 160, Issue 5
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I loved my Sumitomo HTR 200s in the dry? first time I hit a damp spot in the road I almost put it into the guardrail?. after that I was cautious.

My current Doral-branded Sumitomos are fine in the wet, but not nearly as sticky. Can?t have it all?

I kind of appreciate that they slowly start to slide as opposed to breaking loose all at once? lets you know when you?re on the edge.

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'66 MGB

> On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Joel Martin <jmartiniii at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2020, 10:39:10 AM EDT, Joel Martin <jmartiniii at yahoo.com <mailto:jmartiniii at yahoo.com>> wrote: 
> 
> 
> I bought (Discount Tire Direct and installed locally 185/70R14 Falken Pro Touring A/S Tires ran $270.32 for 4 and $14 per tire install and balance. 
> 
> I chose to just take the tires and wheels to the shop so I could reinstall with torque wrench set on 60 pounds for styled steel wheels on 1973 MGB. Impact wrenches could damage our stud holes if put on too tightly.
> 
> Numerous other changes such as poly bushings, new steering rack (230K on original), solid alloy 3/4 sway bar mounting brackets from Moss. All in all, corners very flat. Tires seem just fine with the new changes, though only about 600 miles on them since June but no complaints up to this point.
> 
> Previous tires were Sumitomo HTR 200 from 2009 (about 2/32's left on tread and 12 years old) and before that Yokohama A008's (many sets) which were my favorite but neither of these are available. The Falken's were rated and reviewed better for wet and dry weather handling.
> 
> Our sizes are getting harder and harder to find and seem to made with mini van's in mind.
> 
> Regards
> Joel Martin

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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Wed Sep  9 17:36:54 2020
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2020 18:36:54 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 160, Issue 5
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> I kind of appreciate that they slowly start to slide...

   Exactly Max. I enjoy tires that offer predictability.

-rick

On Wed, Sep 9, 2020, 6:04 PM Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net> wrote:

> I loved my Sumitomo HTR 200s in the dry? first time I hit a damp spot in
> the road I almost put it into the guardrail?. after that I was cautious.
>
> My current Doral-branded Sumitomos are fine in the wet, but not nearly as
> sticky. Can?t have it all?
>
> I kind of appreciate that they slowly start to slide as opposed to
> breaking loose all at once? lets you know when you?re on the edge.
>
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
>
> On Sep 9, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Joel Martin <jmartiniii at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2020, 10:39:10 AM EDT, Joel Martin <
> jmartiniii at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I bought (Discount Tire Direct and installed locally 185/70R14 Falken Pro
> Touring A/S Tires ran $270.32 for 4 and $14 per tire install and balance.
>
> I chose to just take the tires and wheels to the shop so I could reinstall
> with torque wrench set on 60 pounds for styled steel wheels on 1973 MGB.
> Impact wrenches could damage our stud holes if put on too tightly.
>
> Numerous other changes such as poly bushings, new steering rack (230K on
> original), solid alloy 3/4 sway bar mounting brackets from Moss. All in
> all, corners very flat. Tires seem just fine with the new changes, though
> only about 600 miles on them since June but no complaints up to this point.
>
> Previous tires were Sumitomo HTR 200 from 2009 (about 2/32's left on tread
> and 12 years old) and before that Yokohama A008's (many sets) which were my
> favorite but neither of these are available. The Falken's were rated and
> reviewed better for wet and dry weather handling.
>
> Our sizes are getting harder and harder to find and seem to made with mini
> van's in mind.
>
> Regards
> Joel Martin
>
>
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From barrob at bell.net  Fri Sep 11 08:39:09 2020
From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 10:39:09 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Interior light
Message-ID: <ccb0c989-979a-36f1-f966-ebb3b29b3a19@bell.net>

Hello folks,

I have had this wire hanging out of the headliner lightly dangling in 
front of the rear? widow.? For years I have been meaning to fix it but I 
am at a loss!?? There is no rear courtesy light or place to put one.?? 
There is no power on the wire and I am about to check for earth.?? But I 
would like to know if a 1970 MGB GT had a light at the back - which I 
assume would go on when a door was opened??? The Moss catalog shows one 
but not where it is placed.? Where is it placed? ? Thank you in advance 
for responses.

Barrie
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Fri Sep 11 09:03:31 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 16:03:31 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Interior light
References: <ccb0c989-979a-36f1-f966-ebb3b29b3a19@bell.net>
Message-ID: <2DD91962604C4EED9E99A3F7EFD8AC74@paul>

According to WSM drawings and Clausager roadsters got a boot light and GTs a loadspace light for the 1971 model year.  That began in August 70 so some cars built from then to the end of the year should have it.

AFAIK on GTs it was always screwed to the rear cant rail just in front of the hatch opening, with a hatch switch providing the earth in the upper right-hand corner as you look at the back of the car from outside.  The 12v supply came from a purple wire in the rear harness, that goes up behind the right-hand C-post trim panel.

If you Google something like 'MGB rear cant rail' or headlining you should find some pictures.

PaulH.

BTW, the MGB V8 list is no more.
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  I have had this wire hanging out of the headliner lightly dangling in front of the rear  widow.  For years I have been meaning to fix it but I am at a loss!   There is no rear courtesy light or place to put one.   There is no power on the wire and I am about to check for earth.   But I would like to know if a 1970 MGB GT had a light at the back - which I assume would go on when a door was opened?   The Moss catalog shows one but not where it is placed.  Where is it placed?   Thank you in advance for responses.
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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Fri Sep 11 10:18:25 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 18:18:25 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] Interior light
In-Reply-To: <ccb0c989-979a-36f1-f966-ebb3b29b3a19@bell.net>
References: <ccb0c989-979a-36f1-f966-ebb3b29b3a19@bell.net>
Message-ID: <001a01d68857$2d9dfff0$88d9ffd0$@planet.nl>

Hi Barrie,

 

I have two interior lights in my early (Feb) 1971 GT:

1 at the dashboard above the transmission tunnel

2 above the rear hatch door. The light can be activated by a switch operated when the hatch opens, or an internal switch in the light assembly.

 

If you like, I can make some pictures and send these over.

 

Cheers,

Hans

?71 BGT

 

Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens Barrie Robinson
Verzonden: vrijdag 11 september 2020 16:39
Aan: MGB List <mgs at autox.team.net>; MGB V8 List <mgb-v8 at autox.team.net>
Onderwerp: [Mgs] Interior light

 

Hello folks,

I have had this wire hanging out of the headliner lightly dangling in front of the rear  widow.  For years I have been meaning to fix it but I am at a loss!   There is no rear courtesy light or place to put one.   There is no power on the wire and I am about to check for earth.   But I would like to know if a 1970 MGB GT had a light at the back - which I assume would go on when a door was opened?   The Moss catalog shows one but not where it is placed.  Where is it placed?   Thank you in advance for responses.

Barrie



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From mark at bradakis.com  Sat Sep 12 07:46:36 2020
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 07:46:36 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games
Message-ID: <6b8671a0-11a6-f8e6-a8b2-987ded595024@bradakis.com>

I've been messing with Little British Cars for some time.? First one I 
drove was a Mark 2 Sprite.? Nearly killed us all.? I was used to driving 
the family wagons, honkin' big land yachts where you don't make a turn, 
you come about.? So at the wheel of my friend's Sprite, I started to 
make the turn way in advance, and to my surprise just a small movement 
of the steering wheel resulted in an immediate turn.? Wow!

The first one I owned was a 1969 Triumph GT6+, which I bought in '76 or 
'77, can't remember.? Now decades later, I really wish I had kept 
records of each and every car I bought and sold, commission numbers, 
dates, price, etc.? Anyway I got hooked and LBCs became a large part of 
my life for many years.? I ended up running Intermountain Vintage Racing 
at one time, and holding half a dozen "road" races each summer out at 
the old Wendover, Utah airport became too much of a chore, putting more 
into it than I got out of it.? I just got burned out, turned my back on 
IVR, the British Motor Club of Utah, Utah Region SCCA, Vintage Triumph 
Register, pretty much everything.? Luckily I did not turn away from Team 
Net, kept maintaining the mailing lists.

My cars sat neglected, the Fat Chance Garage became just a big storage 
space, junk everywhere.? But deep down a tiny spark remained, kept alive 
by sticking with Team Net, especially a private Triumph racing group.? 
Went to a number of Kastner Cup events over the years, most recently 
Buttonwillow, California, May of 2019.? That event got that hidden spark 
burning a little brighter.

So I am working on getting back into it.? Currently assisting a young 
fellow up in Layton, Utah, with his collection.? Currently a squaretail 
Spitfire, a Midget, a very nice rust free TR4 he just bought and three 
MGBs.? Over the last month or two the work has focused on getting the 
green '73 B running.? First big problem, the rear SU HIF4 was dripping 
fuel.? Obviously a needle valve that wouldn't close.? He pulls the carbs 
off, I bring them to my garage.? I clear a small space to work on them, 
and await the arrival of a rebuild kit.? Go through the carbs, take them 
up to his place.? He bolts them on, rear carb STILL leaking gas.? Off 
they come, back to my garage.? Turns out I made a simple mistake, forgot 
the sealing washer for the needle valve.? Fixed it, check my work on the 
front carb.? Took them back, bolted them on, no leaks!? Took some 
cranking, but got the engine to fire, sort of run, finally warmed up a 
bit and a nice idle.? And on occasion, it revved nicely.

But the rear carb has a serious problem with backfiring and spitting out 
small clouds of fuel droplets.? More so than I remember from past 
experience working at my friend's shop.? I suspect a burnt, cracked 
intake valve at the moment. But it was running, that's progress.? I plan 
to go back up to Layton, about a 25 mile drive north, with a compression 
gauge, and my trusty old timing light, see what that tells us.

But I am enjoying getting back into it, even though my skills have 
certainly gathered a bit of, shall we say, patina to them. Wonder if I 
should buy a Bentley's MGB manual?? Triumph manuals I got.

mjb.



From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Sat Sep 12 08:06:18 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:06:18 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games
References: <6b8671a0-11a6-f8e6-a8b2-987ded595024@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <79211B3B798E454A86846124A3856BDD@paul>

Enjoy!

----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> So I am working on getting back into it. 
> ...

From Bispmotala at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 12 09:01:44 2020
From: Bispmotala at hotmail.com (Ulla &Sven Ordell)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:01:44 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games
In-Reply-To: <79211B3B798E454A86846124A3856BDD@paul>
References: <6b8671a0-11a6-f8e6-a8b2-987ded595024@bradakis.com>
 <79211B3B798E454A86846124A3856BDD@paul>
Message-ID: <HE1P191MB01727E38422825D43B9E27D9DD250@HE1P191MB0172.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

I'll second that!!!
Sven 
Sweden

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Skickat: den 12 september 2020 16:06
Till: mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>; Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
?mne: Re: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games

Enjoy!

----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> So I am working on getting back into it. 
> ...
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From Bispmotala at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 12 10:38:22 2020
From: Bispmotala at hotmail.com (Ulla &Sven Ordell)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 16:38:22 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games
In-Reply-To: <79211B3B798E454A86846124A3856BDD@paul>
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I'll second that!!!
Sven 
Sweden

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Fr?n: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> F?r PaulHunt73
Skickat: den 12 september 2020 16:06
Till: mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>; Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
?mne: Re: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games

Enjoy!

----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> So I am working on getting back into it. 
> ...
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From ccrobins at ktc.com  Sat Sep 12 11:16:48 2020
From: ccrobins at ktc.com (Charley Robinson)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 12:16:48 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games
In-Reply-To: <6b8671a0-11a6-f8e6-a8b2-987ded595024@bradakis.com>
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Burnt or partially stuck open intake valve is a good suspicion.

By all means, get the Bentley manual.

Then get one of his MGBs from him!

CR

From ccrobins at ktc.com  Sat Sep 12 11:57:21 2020
From: ccrobins at ktc.com (Charley Robinson)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 12:57:21 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MGB For Sale
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It's with a heavy heart that I've decided to sell my 1969 MGB roadster.? 
The car is located in Kerrville, TX.? Kerrville is about 65 miles NW of 
San Antonio, TX; right up I-10.

It runs great, has OD and leaks oil when it's sitting.? Has less than 
20K miles on the engine.? Twin HS-4 carbs, stock intake & exhaust 
including air cleaners.? Has new Cooper tires on wire wheels, put on 
last spring.

It's insured with Hagerty for $6K.? I'll take $4K and cry to see it gone.

CR

From thgun at comporium.net  Sat Sep 12 14:16:51 2020
From: thgun at comporium.net (Thomas Gunderson)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 16:16:51 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Grill trim
Message-ID: <A8EC986A-DEFA-44A3-857C-8A131B6607F9@comporium.net>


What is the best way to keep the trim welting to stay around the grill?

Tom Gunderson 
1957 MGA 1500 rst
Sent from my iPhone X



From paul at ece.rochester.edu  Sat Sep 12 20:20:40 2020
From: paul at ece.rochester.edu (Osborne, Paul)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 02:20:40 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] [EXT]   Grill trim
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Message-ID: <A680049F-C8ED-413A-9385-6F92F4E38440@ur.rochester.edu>

very small pop rivets

On Sep 12, 2020, at 4:16 PM, Thomas Gunderson <thgun at comporium.net<mailto:thgun at comporium.net>> wrote:


What is the best way to keep the trim welting to stay around the grill?

Tom Gunderson
1957 MGA 1500 rst
Sent from my iPhone X


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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Sun Sep 13 13:07:33 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2020 21:07:33 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games
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Very nice you picked up the actual work on an MG Mark! 
When I bought my GT in 1990, I already had a Haynes manual. 
With the aid of this list, I almost tackled every issue on my MG with this book. 

Backfiring in one carb only I think it is bound to that carb. 
Air leaking into the carb via the butterfly shaft might be a cause. 
Any play in this?

Cheers,
Hans

71 BGT NRG

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens Mark J Bradakis
Verzonden: zaterdag 12 september 2020 15:47
Aan: mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
Onderwerp: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games

I've been messing with Little British Cars for some time.  First one I drove was a Mark 2 Sprite.  Nearly killed us all.  I was used to driving the family wagons, honkin' big land yachts where you don't make a turn, you come about.  So at the wheel of my friend's Sprite, I started to make the turn way in advance, and to my surprise just a small movement of the steering wheel resulted in an immediate turn.  Wow!

The first one I owned was a 1969 Triumph GT6+, which I bought in '76 or '77, can't remember.  Now decades later, I really wish I had kept records of each and every car I bought and sold, commission numbers, dates, price, etc.  Anyway I got hooked and LBCs became a large part of my life for many years.  I ended up running Intermountain Vintage Racing at one time, and holding half a dozen "road" races each summer out at the old Wendover, Utah airport became too much of a chore, putting more into it than I got out of it.  I just got burned out, turned my back on IVR, the British Motor Club of Utah, Utah Region SCCA, Vintage Triumph Register, pretty much everything.  Luckily I did not turn away from Team Net, kept maintaining the mailing lists.

My cars sat neglected, the Fat Chance Garage became just a big storage space, junk everywhere.  But deep down a tiny spark remained, kept alive by sticking with Team Net, especially a private Triumph racing group. Went to a number of Kastner Cup events over the years, most recently Buttonwillow, California, May of 2019.  That event got that hidden spark burning a little brighter.

So I am working on getting back into it.  Currently assisting a young fellow up in Layton, Utah, with his collection.  Currently a squaretail Spitfire, a Midget, a very nice rust free TR4 he just bought and three MGBs.  Over the last month or two the work has focused on getting the green '73 B running.  First big problem, the rear SU HIF4 was dripping fuel.  Obviously a needle valve that wouldn't close.  He pulls the carbs off, I bring them to my garage.  I clear a small space to work on them, and await the arrival of a rebuild kit.  Go through the carbs, take them up to his place.  He bolts them on, rear carb STILL leaking gas.  Off they come, back to my garage.  Turns out I made a simple mistake, forgot the sealing washer for the needle valve.  Fixed it, check my work on the front carb.  Took them back, bolted them on, no leaks!  Took some cranking, but got the engine to fire, sort of run, finally warmed up a bit and a nice idle.  And on occasion, it revved nicely.

But the rear carb has a serious problem with backfiring and spitting out small clouds of fuel droplets.  More so than I remember from past experience working at my friend's shop.  I suspect a burnt, cracked intake valve at the moment. But it was running, that's progress.  I plan to go back up to Layton, about a 25 mile drive north, with a compression gauge, and my trusty old timing light, see what that tells us.

But I am enjoying getting back into it, even though my skills have certainly gathered a bit of, shall we say, patina to them. Wonder if I should buy a Bentley's MGB manual?  Triumph manuals I got.

mjb.


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From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Sep 14 07:54:39 2020
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 07:54:39 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games
In-Reply-To: <6b8671a0-11a6-f8e6-a8b2-987ded595024@bradakis.com>
References: <6b8671a0-11a6-f8e6-a8b2-987ded595024@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <b5398be2-8a75-a300-bd96-e012aeef1352@bradakis.com>

The frustrations continue.? So thinking the rear carb spitting out puffs 
of gasoline laden air, I suspected perhaps an issue with the valves or 
head gasket on this '73 MGB.? I zip up there ( the guy lives 27 miles 
from me ) with more test equipment.? Pull the plugs, do a quick 
compression test.? Wow, 125 - 130 psi in all 4 cylinders.? So that's a 
nice surprise.

Plugs back in, ignition wiring connected, crank the motor.? It spins, 
but no sign of it wanting to start.? Hook up my trusty old timing light, 
no flashes whatsoever.? Pull the #1 plug, ground it, no spark at all.? 
While checking the connections at the coil, I nearly burn my hand.? The 
body of the coil is hot, very hot.? Not a good sign.

New coil on the way, we'll see what the next installment brings.

mjb.



From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 08:23:10 2020
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 07:23:10 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games
In-Reply-To: <b5398be2-8a75-a300-bd96-e012aeef1352@bradakis.com>
References: <6b8671a0-11a6-f8e6-a8b2-987ded595024@bradakis.com>
 <b5398be2-8a75-a300-bd96-e012aeef1352@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <CABXhz8_RRQZXYVPk3N9KH3X6LE33yojW=unAdGQdrb69yx9E0g@mail.gmail.com>

welcome back to turning a wrench.
please continue to share stories.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2020, 7:17 AM Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> wrote:

> The frustrations continue.  So thinking the rear carb spitting out puffs
> of gasoline laden air, I suspected perhaps an issue with the valves or
> head gasket on this '73 MGB.  I zip up there ( the guy lives 27 miles
> from me ) with more test equipment.  Pull the plugs, do a quick
> compression test.  Wow, 125 - 130 psi in all 4 cylinders.  So that's a
> nice surprise.
>
> Plugs back in, ignition wiring connected, crank the motor.  It spins,
> but no sign of it wanting to start.  Hook up my trusty old timing light,
> no flashes whatsoever.  Pull the #1 plug, ground it, no spark at all.
> While checking the connections at the coil, I nearly burn my hand.  The
> body of the coil is hot, very hot.  Not a good sign.
>
> New coil on the way, we'll see what the next installment brings.
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From cgmoog at optonline.net  Mon Sep 14 10:13:41 2020
From: cgmoog at optonline.net (Chris Moog)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 12:13:41 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games
In-Reply-To: <b5398be2-8a75-a300-bd96-e012aeef1352@bradakis.com>
References: <6b8671a0-11a6-f8e6-a8b2-987ded595024@bradakis.com>
 <b5398be2-8a75-a300-bd96-e012aeef1352@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <3eb274e4-69b9-6ca6-51a7-8c93fa44f2d7@optonline.net>

Are the points working?  Before changing the coil I'd make sure its not 
too hot from a constant 12V going across it (points always closed).


On 9/14/2020 9:54 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
>  Pull the #1 plug, ground it, no spark at all.  While checking the 
> connections at the coil, I nearly burn my hand.  The body of the coil 
> is hot, very hot.  Not a good sign.
>
> New coil on the way, we'll see what the next installment brings.
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Mon Sep 14 10:49:02 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 11:49:02 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games
In-Reply-To: <3eb274e4-69b9-6ca6-51a7-8c93fa44f2d7@optonline.net>
References: <6b8671a0-11a6-f8e6-a8b2-987ded595024@bradakis.com>
 <b5398be2-8a75-a300-bd96-e012aeef1352@bradakis.com>
 <3eb274e4-69b9-6ca6-51a7-8c93fa44f2d7@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <000c01d68ab6$f3cb0d60$db612820$@ranteer.com>

It is almost NEVER the coil.  The coil is hot because of another problem.
keep looking

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From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Chris Moog
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 11:14 AM
To: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB Fun and Games

Are the points working?  Before changing the coil I'd make sure its not too
hot from a constant 12V going across it (points always closed).


On 9/14/2020 9:54 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
>  Pull the #1 plug, ground it, no spark at all.  While checking the 
> connections at the coil, I nearly burn my hand.  The body of the coil 
> is hot, very hot.  Not a good sign.
>
> New coil on the way, we'll see what the next installment brings.
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From lrc at red4est.com  Sat Sep 19 01:39:36 2020
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 00:39:36 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Burnt midget
Message-ID: <DF84EF2D-2FA3-4362-BA4C-26D2B2B302C5@red4est.com>

Last weekend I took a drive through some of the burned out areas in my neighborhood and saw this rubber bumper midget on the side of the road:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50358431347/in/album-72157716027178261/

If you?re interested in the whole set, it was from a small section of the CZU fire. Two areas were hit particularly hard, Bonny Doon and Boulder Creek, these were more in the Bonny Doon area:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157716027178261

they are expecting 100% containment by the end of the weekend.

--
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lrc at red4est.com




From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 12:04:24 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 14:04:24 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Burnt midget
In-Reply-To: <DF84EF2D-2FA3-4362-BA4C-26D2B2B302C5@red4est.com>
References: <DF84EF2D-2FA3-4362-BA4C-26D2B2B302C5@red4est.com>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+mC5Bw_=vLSpn04ukBpRCTitBaO=CKHaon9S7NsjJ-dsQ@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, pretty amazing pics, Larry. Never seen glass melt like that. Hope that
you and your family are safe.

Dan D
'76 B, '65 B
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 3:40 AM Larry Colen <lrc at red4est.com> wrote:

> Last weekend I took a drive through some of the burned out areas in my
> neighborhood and saw this rubber bumper midget on the side of the road:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50358431347/in/album-72157716027178261/
>
> If you?re interested in the whole set, it was from a small section of the
> CZU fire. Two areas were hit particularly hard, Bonny Doon and Boulder
> Creek, these were more in the Bonny Doon area:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157716027178261
>
> they are expecting 100% containment by the end of the weekend.
>
> --
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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Sun Sep 20 12:59:20 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 20:59:20 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] Burnt midget
In-Reply-To: <DF84EF2D-2FA3-4362-BA4C-26D2B2B302C5@red4est.com>
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Very impressive pictures Larry. So sad these cars are lost. Hope you, family and friends are save! 

Hans

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Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens Larry Colen
Verzonden: zaterdag 19 september 2020 09:40
Aan: mgs at autox.team.net
Onderwerp: [Mgs] Burnt midget

Last weekend I took a drive through some of the burned out areas in my neighborhood and saw this rubber bumper midget on the side of the road:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50358431347/in/album-72157716027178261/

If you?re interested in the whole set, it was from a small section of the CZU fire. Two areas were hit particularly hard, Bonny Doon and Boulder Creek, these were more in the Bonny Doon area:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157716027178261

they are expecting 100% containment by the end of the weekend.

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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Thu Sep 24 08:12:15 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:12:15 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
Message-ID: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>

Dear listers,

 

Two days ago we went for a nice Indian Summer drive with the GT.

The GT recently had been MOT tested (the very final one, as next year the
car will be 50 years old and the MOT test is compulsory anymore).

After a visit at a nice terrace at a lake with some drinks, I tried to start
the GT again, but the starter cranked without success.

We quickly found, that the original SU pump failed. 

As I had no spare pump with me, I had to call the road services, who made a
temp fix by adding an extra pump in series.

 

Now my question is what is best for the final repair.

New set of points - available via Moss Motors a.o.

Convert to electronic points? - Is in backorder @ Moss now. 

Replace the diaphragm as well? The diaphragm still looks fine. 

 

Any experiences?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

'71 BGT NRG W/W no O/D

 

Met vriendelijke groeten,

 

Hans Duinhoven

Tensenhof 2,

2134 AL  Hoofddorp

06-53682193

 



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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 08:27:51 2020
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 10:27:51 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
In-Reply-To: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
References: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
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Hans,
   Good on you for 50 years on the pump.  Into my 1972 GT, tomorrow, goes its third, as the second failed last week, at ten years and 25,000 miles.  I have never been successful with replacing diaphragm and points. Well, successful in that the pumps did not leak, but they would not pump.  
    Installed in my GT is an auxiliary pump, wired to an unused rocker switch on the console. When the engine falters, moving the switch brings the auxiliary pump into service and engine runs well again.  
   Running on the auxiliary pump, we drove in the CT Triumph Club?s British Reliability Run. 906 miles were added to my odometer.  All cars travelled reliably and successfully, except for one that had a Weber carb, when its throttle return spring broke. 
Bob


> On Sep 24, 2020, at 10:12 AM, <h.duinhoven at planet.nl> <h.duinhoven at planet.nl> wrote:
> 
> Dear listers,
>  
> Two days ago we went for a nice Indian Summer drive with the GT.
> The GT recently had been MOT tested (the very final one, as next year the car will be 50 years old and the MOT test is compulsory anymore).
> After a visit at a nice terrace at a lake with some drinks, I tried to start the GT again, but the starter cranked without success.
> We quickly found, that the original SU pump failed.
> As I had no spare pump with me, I had to call the road services, who made a temp fix by adding an extra pump in series.
>  
> Now my question is what is best for the final repair.
> New set of points ? available via Moss Motors a.o.
> Convert to electronic points? ? Is in backorder @ Moss now.
> Replace the diaphragm as well? The diaphragm still looks fine.
>  
> Any experiences?
>  
> Thanks in advance.
>  
> Cheers,
> Hans
>  
> ?71 BGT NRG W/W no O/D
>  
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
>  
> Hans Duinhoven
> Tensenhof 2,
> 2134 AL  Hoofddorp
> 06-53682193
>  
> 
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Thu Sep 24 08:30:41 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 15:30:41 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
References: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
Message-ID: <F2CBBF8A3FBD48FC9338A7E047AA4072@paul>

You need to check the electrical connections first, right on the 12v and earth terminals making sure there is 12v with the ignition on.  If not then that is the cause not the pump.

If you see 12v then quite possibly the points have developed a spike and pit, and stuck together.  When this happens there is a single click when you turn on the ignition, and another when you turn it off.  Relatively easy to clean them up and check the adjustment, which may involve removing the pump chamber from the solenoid body.  

Don't dismantle any further, and don't replace the diaphragm if it doesn't need it, replacement parts are often not as good as the originals and sometimes don't even fit properly.  If the diaphragm were faulty the pump would be leaking fuel.

More info here:
http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/pumpr.htm

PaulH.

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  Now my question is what is best for the final repair.

  New set of points - available via Moss Motors a.o.

  Convert to electronic points? - Is in backorder @ Moss now. 

  Replace the diaphragm as well? The diaphragm still looks fine. 
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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Thu Sep 24 08:33:24 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:33:24 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
In-Reply-To: <004e01d6927d$da7de7a0$8f79b6e0$@ranteer.com>
References: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
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Message-ID: <00a301d6927f$a90928e0$fb1b7aa0$@planet.nl>

Thanks Dave. 

 

The temp pump was a box shaped electrical pump. Unlike the original pump it
always made a lot of clicks and indeed was pretty noisy. 

As I have plenty of old inner tubes left of my classic mopeds, it is easy to
make a sound insulation solution. 

 

BTW I'm located in the Netherlands, so I think I'll try to find a local
supplier of such pumps.

For what pumping capacity should I look for?

 

Yes, Moss is pretty expensive and the electronic pump and the conversion set
are n/a currently.

 

Cheers,

Hans

Van: dave <dave at ranteer.com> 
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 16:20
Aan: h.duinhoven at planet.nl
Onderwerp: RE: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure

 

You will get lots of answers.  Unless you are an originality nut, there is
NO reason to go back to the old pump.  If you want to overpay, the
electronic pump from moss is the way to go.

 

If not, and you want rock solid reliability, go with a Facet, AND carry a
spare.  Wire it with "clips" so that you can remove it and replace it
without doing a bunch of splicing and cutting.  I've attached a receipt for
one.  I suspect you are in the UK so you probably won't want to order from
this supplier!

 

Also - these are a bit noisy so put a pad between it and the car  

 

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> >
On Behalf Of h.duinhoven at planet.nl <mailto:h.duinhoven at planet.nl> 
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 9:12 AM
To: mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure

 

Dear listers,

 

Two days ago we went for a nice Indian Summer drive with the GT.

The GT recently had been MOT tested (the very final one, as next year the
car will be 50 years old and the MOT test is compulsory anymore).

After a visit at a nice terrace at a lake with some drinks, I tried to start
the GT again, but the starter cranked without success.

We quickly found, that the original SU pump failed. 

As I had no spare pump with me, I had to call the road services, who made a
temp fix by adding an extra pump in series.

 

Now my question is what is best for the final repair.

New set of points - available via Moss Motors a.o.

Convert to electronic points? - Is in backorder @ Moss now. 

Replace the diaphragm as well? The diaphragm still looks fine. 

 

Any experiences?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

'71 BGT NRG W/W no O/D

 

Met vriendelijke groeten,

 

Hans Duinhoven

Tensenhof 2,

2134 AL  Hoofddorp

06-53682193

 

 


 
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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Thu Sep 24 08:48:06 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:48:06 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
In-Reply-To: <1A8D6B5C-013B-461D-95A5-E3535DA82918@gmail.com>
References: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
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Message-ID: <00b701d69281$b6bec380$243c4a80$@planet.nl>

Bob,

 

Not fully true. When restoring the GT in the period of 1990 ? 2000, I took the pump apart and polished the contact points shing bright. 

I think the car made some 15,000 miles after it came onto the road again in 2000.

15,000 miles for me is not really reliable, certainly not compared with modern cars. I once drove an Audi A6 model 2000, which car never had a pump failure over 343,000 kilometers = 214,000 miles.

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

 

Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens Robert's New iPad
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 16:28
Aan: h.duinhoven at planet.nl
CC: mgs at autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure

 

Hans,

   Good on you for 50 years on the pump.  Into my 1972 GT, tomorrow, goes its third, as the second failed last week, at ten years and 25,000 miles.  I have never been successful with replacing diaphragm and points. Well, successful in that the pumps did not leak, but they would not pump.  

    Installed in my GT is an auxiliary pump, wired to an unused rocker switch on the console. When the engine falters, moving the switch brings the auxiliary pump into service and engine runs well again.  

   Running on the auxiliary pump, we drove in the CT Triumph Club?s British Reliability Run. 906 miles were added to my odometer.  All cars travelled reliably and successfully, except for one that had a Weber carb, when its throttle return spring broke. 

Bob

 


On Sep 24, 2020, at 10:12 AM, <h.duinhoven at planet.nl <mailto:h.duinhoven at planet.nl> > <h.duinhoven at planet.nl <mailto:h.duinhoven at planet.nl> > wrote:

Dear listers,

 

Two days ago we went for a nice Indian Summer drive with the GT.

The GT recently had been MOT tested (the very final one, as next year the car will be 50 years old and the MOT test is compulsory anymore).

After a visit at a nice terrace at a lake with some drinks, I tried to start the GT again, but the starter cranked without success.

We quickly found, that the original SU pump failed. 

As I had no spare pump with me, I had to call the road services, who made a temp fix by adding an extra pump in series.

 

Now my question is what is best for the final repair.

New set of points ? available via Moss Motors a.o.

Convert to electronic points? ? Is in backorder @ Moss now. 

Replace the diaphragm as well? The diaphragm still looks fine. 

 

Any experiences?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

?71 BGT NRG W/W no O/D

 



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From steve at coastaldatasystems.com  Thu Sep 24 09:35:49 2020
From: steve at coastaldatasystems.com (Steve West-Fisher)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 11:35:49 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
In-Reply-To: <00b701d69281$b6bec380$243c4a80$@planet.nl>
References: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
 <1A8D6B5C-013B-461D-95A5-E3535DA82918@gmail.com>
 <00b701d69281$b6bec380$243c4a80$@planet.nl>
Message-ID: <bf259f7d02dbc59f810a4b3470d8961a@coastaldatasystems.com>

On 24.09.2020 10:48, h.duinhoven at planet.nl wrote:
> Bob,
> 
> Not fully true. When restoring the GT in the period of 1990 ? 2000,
> I took the pump apart and polished the contact points shing bright.
> 
> I think the car made some 15,000 miles after it came onto the road
> again in 2000.
> 
> 15,000 miles for me is not really reliable, certainly not compared
> with modern cars. I once drove an Audi A6 model 2000, which car never
> had a pump failure over 343,000 kilometers = 214,000 miles.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Hans

Hans, one thing to check is the ground in the back center of the boot. 
I've had those get a little loose and cause the fuel pump to become 
intermittent. It can also cause some odd light symptoms that you 
probably would not see from inside. I tend to stick with the points.

Steve

-- 
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N4IK

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Thu Sep 24 10:34:23 2020
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 09:34:23 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
In-Reply-To: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
References: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
Message-ID: <cb5dc785-dcd8-45fd-76ab-9aad376c3226@cox.net>


Hans,

I replaced my SU pump with a Facet, which sounds a lot like what you 
have in your car now. I tried replacing the points in the SU pump, but 
the diaphragm had gotten so stiff with age that it wouldn't pump any 
more. The facet is noisy as hell and a mount with lots of Sorbothane 
would be a very good thing, but it does work reliably. Be sure the one 
you have is a low pressure (3 lb) variety. There are higher pressure 
models that look just like the low pressure ones, and will happily 
overflow your carburetters.

I was recently wondering if some kind of gear pump would be quieter. 
Don't know if there are any suitable ones out there that wouldn't 
require a fuel pressure regulator.

Cheers,
Dave

On 9/24/2020 7:12 AM, h.duinhoven at planet.nl wrote:
>
> Dear listers,
>
> Two days ago we went for a nice Indian Summer drive with the GT.
>
> The GT recently had been MOT tested (the very final one, as next year 
> the car will be 50 years old and the MOT test is compulsory anymore).
>
> After a visit at a nice terrace at a lake with some drinks, I tried to 
> start the GT again, but the starter cranked without success.
>
> We quickly found, that the original SU pump failed.
>
> As I had no spare pump with me, I had to call the road services, who 
> made a temp fix by adding an extra pump in series.
>
> Now my question is what is best for the final repair.
>
> New set of points ? available via Moss Motors a.o.
>
> Convert to electronic points? ? Is in backorder @ Moss now.
>
> Replace the diaphragm as well? The diaphragm still looks fine.
>
> Any experiences?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
> ?71 BGT NRG W/W no O/D
>
> Met vriendelijke groeten,
>
> Hans Duinhoven
>
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>
> 2134 AL? Hoofddorp
>
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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Thu Sep 24 10:57:29 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 18:57:29 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
In-Reply-To: <bf259f7d02dbc59f810a4b3470d8961a@coastaldatasystems.com>
References: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
 <1A8D6B5C-013B-461D-95A5-E3535DA82918@gmail.com>
 <00b701d69281$b6bec380$243c4a80$@planet.nl>
 <bf259f7d02dbc59f810a4b3470d8961a@coastaldatasystems.com>
Message-ID: <002101d69293$ca0a78a0$5e1f69e0$@planet.nl>

Thank you Steve. Will do!

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Steve West-Fisher <steve at coastaldatasystems.com> 
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 17:36
Aan: h.duinhoven at planet.nl
CC: 'Robert's New iPad' <mgbobh at gmail.com>; mgs at autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure

On 24.09.2020 10:48, h.duinhoven at planet.nl wrote:
> Bob,
> 
> Not fully true. When restoring the GT in the period of 1990 ? 2000, I 
> took the pump apart and polished the contact points shing bright.
> 
> I think the car made some 15,000 miles after it came onto the road 
> again in 2000.
> 
> 15,000 miles for me is not really reliable, certainly not compared 
> with modern cars. I once drove an Audi A6 model 2000, which car never 
> had a pump failure over 343,000 kilometers = 214,000 miles.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Hans

Hans, one thing to check is the ground in the back center of the boot. 
I've had those get a little loose and cause the fuel pump to become intermittent. It can also cause some odd light symptoms that you probably would not see from inside. I tend to stick with the points.

Steve

--
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N4IK


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From barrob at bell.net  Mon Sep 28 10:17:38 2020
From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 12:17:38 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Hazard switch for 77-80 MGB dash
Message-ID: <8a36584b-a175-42e8-a85e-50341a0c6e37@bell.net>

Hello folks,

Does anyone have a hazard switch for the 77-80 dash for an MGB that they 
will sell me?? Cannot find a new one anywhere and tried you name it.

Cheers
Barrie
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Tue Sep 29 03:38:36 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 10:38:36 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Hazard switch for 77-80 MGB dash
References: <8a36584b-a175-42e8-a85e-50341a0c6e37@bell.net>
Message-ID: <CD2C8216E839412BA57013DC8C6D96FB@paul>

Alpha or pictorial?

Found these in the UK from the same supplier

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AAU3203-MGB-MGBGT-76-80-HAZARD-SWITCH-LUCAS-NO-30928-USA-SPEC-AAU3203-/133442300737

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AAU3205-MGB-MGBGT-76-80-HAZARD-SWITCH-LUCAS-NO-30927-OEM-NO-AAU3205-/133473705601

BTW, V8 list no longer exists.

Paul.
  ----- Original Message ----- 

  Does anyone have a hazard switch for the 77-80 dash for an MGB that they will sell me?  Cannot find a new one anywhere and tried you name it.
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From barrob at bell.net  Tue Sep 29 11:32:12 2020
From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 13:32:12 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Dash gauges dimmer
Message-ID: <a6482483-487a-66b0-30d9-43d6306ae836@bell.net>

Hello folks,

I have put in a SpeedHut LED tach and a speedo as my MGB GT V8 is 
definitely a non-standard 'user' as opposed to an original. Thus I will 
have two dimmer rheostats (LEDs do not like incandescent dimming)? My 
problem is that the dimmer switch for the SpeedHut gauges does not have 
along enough threaded bit to fit through a 1/4" thick dash.?? I can 
crush the pad in the dash a bit but nowhere enough.? So I thought a 
rheostat with a long thread would work but I cannot finds any with a 
long threaded bit.?? Incidentally the SpeedHuts require an inverter 
which is then controlled by a rheostat - thus two rheostats.? Any ideas 
folks ?

Cheers
Barrie
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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Wed Sep 30 08:04:04 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 16:04:04 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
In-Reply-To: <002101d69293$ca0a78a0$5e1f69e0$@planet.nl>
References: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
 <1A8D6B5C-013B-461D-95A5-E3535DA82918@gmail.com>
 <00b701d69281$b6bec380$243c4a80$@planet.nl>
 <bf259f7d02dbc59f810a4b3470d8961a@coastaldatasystems.com>
 <002101d69293$ca0a78a0$5e1f69e0$@planet.nl>
Message-ID: <000501d69732$8eb71350$ac2539f0$@planet.nl>

Hi Steve,

The pump is out. 
I checked the wiring before taking it out.
The ground wire goes in the same loom as the 12V feed (White). 
I measured the ground connector, which is zero ohms, so nothing wrong there.
I'll order new points adjust these and clean everything thoroughly.
I also can test it offline of course. I have separate a battery available.

Cheers,
Hans


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens h.duinhoven at planet.nl
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 18:57
Aan: steve at coastaldatasystems.com
CC: mgs at autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure

Thank you Steve. Will do!

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Steve West-Fisher <steve at coastaldatasystems.com>
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 17:36
Aan: h.duinhoven at planet.nl
CC: 'Robert's New iPad' <mgbobh at gmail.com>; mgs at autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure

On 24.09.2020 10:48, h.duinhoven at planet.nl wrote:
> Bob,
> 
> Not fully true. When restoring the GT in the period of 1990 ? 2000, I 
> took the pump apart and polished the contact points shing bright.
> 
> I think the car made some 15,000 miles after it came onto the road 
> again in 2000.
> 
> 15,000 miles for me is not really reliable, certainly not compared 
> with modern cars. I once drove an Audi A6 model 2000, which car never 
> had a pump failure over 343,000 kilometers = 214,000 miles.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Hans

Hans, one thing to check is the ground in the back center of the boot. 
I've had those get a little loose and cause the fuel pump to become intermittent. It can also cause some odd light symptoms that you probably would not see from inside. I tend to stick with the points.

Steve

--
Steve West-Fisher
N4IK



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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Wed Sep 30 08:23:49 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 15:23:49 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
References: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
 <1A8D6B5C-013B-461D-95A5-E3535DA82918@gmail.com>
 <00b701d69281$b6bec380$243c4a80$@planet.nl>
 <bf259f7d02dbc59f810a4b3470d8961a@coastaldatasystems.com>
 <002101d69293$ca0a78a0$5e1f69e0$@planet.nl>
 <000501d69732$8eb71350$ac2539f0$@planet.nl>
Message-ID: <8A1270ADFD6A40A3B2EDF87698C7072A@paul>

I realise it is out now but you have to measure voltage with the wiring 
connected and the component powered to see if you have bad connections or 
not.

Ohms is very unreliable when looking for a bad connection as by its very 
nature it is likely to be variable, and will vary with the level of current 
and voltage being applied.  An ohmmeter supplies a very low level of both. 
If you measure 12v on the component terminals then the supply is good and 
the component is faulty.  But if you see less than 12v the connections are 
bad.

PaulH.

----- Original Message ----- 
> I measured the ground connector, which is zero ohms, so nothing wrong 
> there.


From ccrobins at ktc.com  Wed Sep 30 09:46:36 2020
From: ccrobins at ktc.com (Charley Robinson)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 10:46:36 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
In-Reply-To: <000501d69732$8eb71350$ac2539f0$@planet.nl>
References: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
 <1A8D6B5C-013B-461D-95A5-E3535DA82918@gmail.com>
 <00b701d69281$b6bec380$243c4a80$@planet.nl>
 <bf259f7d02dbc59f810a4b3470d8961a@coastaldatasystems.com>
 <002101d69293$ca0a78a0$5e1f69e0$@planet.nl>
 <000501d69732$8eb71350$ac2539f0$@planet.nl>
Message-ID: <06c1129f-a144-bcaa-ee07-6d76185a7cc5@ktc.com>

Hans,

The ohmmeter doesn't draw enough current through the ground connection 
to be a reliable indication of the ground circuit's resistance.? All the 
rear end grounds are connected to one lug in the trunk.? The lug is 
connected to the body by one of the license plate mount retaining 
bolts.? It would be a good idea to clean that connection periodically.? 
I do.

CR



From gone2ddogs at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 30 21:02:02 2020
From: gone2ddogs at yahoo.com (john ross)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 19:02:02 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] john ross
Message-ID: <F7CDF58D-78B8-411E-B90A-AD6A2729D994@yahoo.com>

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