[Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
Clif & Deborah Williamson
hawkview at sonic.net
Thu Jul 7 10:12:52 MDT 2011
yes, lunch too.
Thanks
Deb
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Sinai Rayman
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:12 PM
To: North Bay British Car Club
Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
Clif & Deb, For lunch too. Please "reply all" so Bud can have ahead
count. Thanks, MARty
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
> Jensen Healey will be there Andy.
> Clif and Deb
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Andrew S. Doran
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 7:23 PM
> To: North Bay British Car Club
> Cc: Bud Alderson
> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>
> Andy, '79 Triumph Spitfire will be there.
>
>
> The more British diversity, the merrier! Let us know officially if you
>> will
>> be joining in so we can be prepared. Thanks. Marty & Bud
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Clif & Deborah Williamson <
>> hawkview at sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>> What about our Jensen Healey?
>>> Clif and Deb
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: wendell bain
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:32 PM
>>> To: North Bay British Car Club
>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>> They already accepted Mike's TR-4 and my Morgan. You should fit right
>>> in.
>>>
>>> Wendell
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Andrew S. Doran wrote:
>>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would like to do the Novato ride but am worried I'm going to be the
>>>> only
>>>> Triumph there!
>>>>
>>>> Since I live just across the San Rafael bridge both are tempting.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone interested in attending the car show at the San Rafael
>>>> yacht
>>>>
>>>>> club?
>>>>> Or is everyone interested in the MG run, and does anyone know our
>>>>> destination>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Ron Engelhardt" <nobbc at sonic.net>
>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Fw: Speaking of MG's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I had forgotten about this. I think we should cancel our meet at Bad
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ass
>>>>>> and join this ride. Does anyone have any objections? If not see you
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> 10AM
>>>>>> in Novato.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron
>>>>>> 58 MGA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheryl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am re-sending an invite from MG Owners and Sorry Safari to all...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The drive details are below - meet at Starbucks parking lot, 127
>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>> Marin Dr, Novato at 10:00am on the 9th.
>>>>>>> Dennis and I are going on this drive - meeting 5 minutes from home
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>> good to pass up, plus should be a very nice drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sheryl & Dennis
>>>>>>> 1976 MGB x2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Forwarded Message ----
>>>>>>> From: Martin Sinai Rayman <drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: North Bay British Car Club <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>> Cc: Bud Alderson <iralderson at comcast.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 8:48:56 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *It started as the MGOC & Sorry Safari but Bud and I decided to
>>>>>>> open
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> to all Brits. There will be a concours elegant Austin Healey along
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> drive (Bob Griffin -Tiburon). It's rare that I get to motor with
>>>>>>> NOBCC
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> each time I have, it's always been a hoot. I did love the drive to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Drake's Bay Oyster Co. a cupla years ago on a July 4th.
>>>>>>> I do have an extra MG medallion if you want to borrow it! Marty*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, Mike Gianandrea <mvg1 at att.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Marty,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are non MG's invited on this ride? Or would I have to put an MG
>>>>>>>> medalion
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> my Triumph?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>>> 64 TR4
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Sinai Rayman" <
>>>>>>>> drmartyrayman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "North Bay British Car Club" <nobbc at autox.team.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:04 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nobbc] Speaking of MG's
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *FYI from Marty Rayman, '53 TD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Summer West Marin Tour
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Saturday, July 9
>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jointly Sponsored by MGOC and SSTS*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Summer never gets better than driving an MG through West Marin,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> Bud
>>>>>>>>> Alderson
>>>>>>>>> and Marty Rayman have put together a fun tour to do just that.
>>>>>>>>> Leaving
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> Novato,
>>>>>>>>> we will head west past Stafford Lake, take a scenic drive over
>>>>>>>>> Wilson
>>>>>>>>> Hill,
>>>>>>>>> and follow
>>>>>>>>> the Chileno Valley Road through dairyland to Tomales Bay and the
>>>>>>>>> Panoramic
>>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>>> (Highway 1). In Point Reyes Station, we ll stop for a 45 minute
>>>>>>>>> look-around
>>>>>>>>> and cheese
>>>>>>>>> sampling at The Cowgirl Creamery (noted for award-winning organic
>>>>>>>>> cheese
>>>>>>>>> making).
>>>>>>>>> (Prince Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall, while exploring the
>>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>>>> industry and culture, stopped by the Creamery in 2006.)
>>>>>>>>> We will continue on to lunch at the historic Olema Inn, a
>>>>>>>>> stagecoach
>>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> gathering place for loggers, ranchers, and farmers in the late
>>>>>>>>> 1800s.
>>>>>>>>> Come
>>>>>>>>> visit with old
>>>>>>>>> MG friends, and make some new ones.
>>>>>>>>> There are several scenic routes back to Highway 101 have your
>>>>>>>>> pick:
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> quickest is
>>>>>>>>> Sir Francis Drake Boulevard to San Rafael; for the curvy route,
>>>>>>>>> follow
>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>> back over
>>>>>>>>> Bolinas Fairfax Road; or follow Bud on spectacular ocean-view
>>>>>>>>> tour
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> Shoreline Drive
>>>>>>>>> (Highway1) past Stinson Beach into Mill Valley. The total driving
>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>> back to 101 will be about two and a half hours.
>>>>>>>>> When and Where: Meet at 10:00 am at Starbucks parking lot at 127
>>>>>>>>> San
>>>>>>>>> Marin
>>>>>>>>> Drive in
>>>>>>>>> Novato, about a mile west of Highway 101 (take the San Marin
>>>>>>>>> Drive
>>>>>>>>> Exit).
>>>>>>>>> Directions: Take 101 north though San Rafael to Novato, or
>>>>>>>>> Highway
>>>>>>>>> 37
>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>> the East
>>>>>>>>> Bay to Highway 101. Exit on San Marin Drive, which is the last
>>>>>>>>> Novato
>>>>>>>>> exit.
>>>>>>>>> Head west.
>>>>>>>>> Starbucks is about a mile down on the right hand side.
>>>>>>>>> Cost: No fees. We lunch together and can order individually from
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Olema
>>>>>>>>> Inn s lunch
>>>>>>>>> menu they will prepare separate checks. For this convenience,
>>>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>> honor
>>>>>>>>> the group
>>>>>>>>> gratuity rate.
>>>>>>>>> Please RSVP to Bud Alderson at 415-497-7669 or
>>>>>>>>> iralderson at comcast.net;
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> Marty
>>>>>>>>> Rayman at 415-454-5756 or DrMartyRayman at gmail.com.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Greg Tatarian
>>>>>>>>> <gtwincams at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Clif,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for passing this along, particularly interesting because
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> local car. Not sure who the owner is, as I haven't seen the car
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> our Lotus club events.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It always worries me to see so few pictures in an eBay listing,
>>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>>> poor quality ones. The description also doesn't say anything
>>>>>>>>>> useful.
>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> see in the photos shows the Stromberg head has been swapped out
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> Weber
>>>>>>>>>> head, which some prefer, and it's got an aftermarket aluminum
>>>>>>>>>> radiator,
>>>>>>>>>> headers, small alternator, the engine bay looks pretty nice, and
>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>> sticky tires, but the seller admits the exterior is only OK.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The devil is in the details with these cars - body, paint,
>>>>>>>>>> interior
>>>>>>>>>> materials and some fittings are very expensive. The price is not
>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> top for the model, but I've never even seen an S4 at this price.
>>>>>>>>> An
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> earlier
>>>>>>>>>> car (S1-S3) in concours condition can command this figure, and
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> true race car versions are in the quarter-million territory now,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> S4
>>>>>>>>>> in the condition this appears to be in should sell for maybe
>>>>>>>>>> $20-25k,
>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>> if there are issues.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There have been lots of interesting cars highlighted on Bring a
>>>>>>>>>> Trailer
>>>>>>>>>> recently - guess now we're in the summer, sellers are active.
>>>>>>>>>> Here's
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> recent BGT...
>>>>>>>>>> http://bringatrailer.com/2011/********06/13/bargain-driver-1-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1->
>>>>>>>>>> <**http://bringatrailer.com/2011/******06/13/bargain-driver-1-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/****06/13/bargain-driver-1->
>>>>>>>>>> >****owner-**<
>>>>>>>>>> http://**bringatrailer.com/**2011/**06/**13/bargain-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain->
>>>>>>>>>> <http:/**/bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/**13/bargain-<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/**06/13/bargain->
>>>>>>>>>> >driver-1-owner-**>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1974-mgb-gt/<http://****bringatr**ailer.com/2011/06/**13/**<http://ailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://bringatrailer.**com/2011/06/13/**<http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/13/**>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bargain-driver-1-owner-1974-<**h**ttp://bringatrailer.com/<ht**
>>>>>>>>> tp://bringatrailer.com/ <http://bringatrailer.com/>>2011/**
>>>>>>>>> 06/13/bargain-driver-1-
>>>>>>>>> **owner-1974->
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mgb-gt/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And Clif - in case you need a parts car...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/********sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/******sby/cto/>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/****sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/****sby/cto/>
>>>>>>>>>> >**2450180023.html<
>>>>>>>>>> http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/****sby/cto/<http://craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://sfbay.**craigslist.org/**sby/cto/<http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**sby/cto/>
>>>>>>>>>> >**2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <http:/**/sfbay.craigslist <http://sfbay.craigslist>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> .org/sby/cto/2450180023.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> seems cheap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/21/2011 12:38 AM, Clif & Deborah Williamson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is what appears to be a really nice Lotus Elan for sale in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Oakland.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Check it out:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/********ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-******<http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/******ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-******<http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://cgi.ebay.com/****ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-****<http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-**>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> /320717503578?pt=US_Cars_********Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5a<****
>>>>>>>>>>> htt**
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> p://cgi.ebay.com/eba <http://cgi.ebay.com/eba>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ymotors/Lotus-1969-Elan-S4-/******320717503578?pt=US_Cars_**
>>>>>>>>> Trucks&hash=item4aac40bc5
>>>>>>>>> a>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Clif 74 JH
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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