From eric at megageek.com  Wed Jun 12 15:30:55 2019
From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 17:30:55 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] Rubber bungee cords
Message-ID: <OF5E70EECE.767A86B6-ON85258417.0075E1C4-85258417.007630DA@mail.megageek.com>

Here is a quick question,  is there anyway to prolong the life of one of 
those common black rubber bungee cords?

My wood processor has custom made ones that dry rotted after about 5 years 
of indoor storage.  They aren't expensive, but it's a pain to have to 
order them.

Is there something I can put on them (an oil or silicone or something) to 
prevent them from dry rotting?  Also, should I leave them without tension 
when not in use?

Thanks in advance for any help.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Tech Viper
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational 
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph 
Waldo Emerson 
-Who is John Galt?
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From stearman809 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 12 17:02:10 2019
From: stearman809 at gmail.com (Karl Vacek)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:02:10 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] Rubber bungee cords
In-Reply-To: <OF5E70EECE.767A86B6-ON85258417.0075E1C4-85258417.007630DA@mail.megageek.com>
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You want protection from UV and ozone.  Products like ArmorAll purport to 
preserve rubber, but no idea how well it will stretch.  In any event, store 
them indoors in a dark place away from electric motors, and NOT stretched.


But really, that type of strap is not typically made from a high grade of 
rubber.  Life will probably be far shorter than something like a tire, 
which is formulated to withstand prolonged exposure to the the elements.
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From parkanzky at gmail.com  Thu Jun 13 07:24:32 2019
From: parkanzky at gmail.com (Paul Parkanzky)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 09:24:32 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] Rubber bungee cords
In-Reply-To: <OF5E70EECE.767A86B6-ON85258417.0075E1C4-85258417.007630DA@mail.megageek.com>
References: <OF5E70EECE.767A86B6-ON85258417.0075E1C4-85258417.007630DA@mail.megageek.com>
Message-ID: <CAOErii=qXQXycE3iqxt2tBgPwadxHTwHP47fv1NrpPuYRuWVqA@mail.gmail.com>

I feel your pain!

I used to play with my dad's black rubber bungee cords when I was a
kid and eventually started to "borrow" them when I needed to strap
something to my bike/moped/car/etc. When I moved out and started to
fend for myself, I always liked to buy "nice stuff" and so when I
needed bungees I bought the black rubber ones from Tractor Supply or
wherever that looked just like what I was used to using as a kid. They
weren't as stretchy and didn't hold up at all. I ended up disappointed
and just started using the more disposable HF bungees that I could
basically buy in bulk.

My father passed away six or eight years ago and I inherited most of
those old bungees and they still work just as well as they did all
those years ago. My dad worked a sales job for a while where he drove
all week and picked several of them up from the sides of the road so
there's a bunch of brands but the thing they have in common is that
they all just work and want to last. I'm not normally in the "they
don't make them like they used to" crowd, but this seems like a time
when that applies.

-Paul


On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 5:31 PM eric--- via Shop-talk
<shop-talk at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Here is a quick question,  is there anyway to prolong the life of one of those common black rubber bungee cords?
>
> My wood processor has custom made ones that dry rotted after about 5 years of indoor storage.  They aren't expensive, but it's a pain to have to order them.
>
> Is there something I can put on them (an oil or silicone or something) to prevent them from dry rotting?  Also, should I leave them without tension when not in use?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
> Tech Viper
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson
> -Who is John Galt?_______________________________________________
>

From lee at automate-it.com  Thu Jun 13 16:21:53 2019
From: lee at automate-it.com (Lee Daniels)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 17:21:53 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] Rubber bungee cords
In-Reply-To: <1cd42770289d5cba78fc94f5d2629e1b.squirrel@automate-it.com>
References: <OF5E70EECE.767A86B6-ON85258417.0075E1C4-85258417.007630DA@mail.megageek.com>
 <CAOErii=qXQXycE3iqxt2tBgPwadxHTwHP47fv1NrpPuYRuWVqA@mail.gmail.com>
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I don't worry too much about how long they last. I get free ones regularly.
The Woodlands, TX, must have one of the highest concentration of lawn
services. They all use the same pickup/trailer arrangement --- mowers,
blowers, edgers all held in with rubber bungees. They frequently lose them.
Since I regularly bike around this fine unincorporated suburb, I find them on
the road much faster than I use them up. So, get some exercise, keep your eyes
open.

 ;-)

Lee

From tr3driver at ca.rr.com  Wed Jun 12 18:01:11 2019
From: tr3driver at ca.rr.com (Randall)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:01:11 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Rubber bungee cords
In-Reply-To: <OF5E70EECE.767A86B6-ON85258417.0075E1C4-85258417.007630DA@mail.megageek.com>
References: <OF5E70EECE.767A86B6-ON85258417.0075E1C4-85258417.007630DA@mail.megageek.com>
Message-ID: <DE1DC40F-362B-4B7D-9E3D-841217002B4C@ca.rr.com>

Coating them with silicone spray once or twice a year should help preserve them. It won't repair a myth ng of course, but should slow down the damage.
I think they last slightly longer when not under tension, but maybe that's just because its hard to tell how bad they are :)

You can buy round bungee cord by the foot, and make your own custom length if you want. Might need to double up to get the strength you need, but I believe the cord comes in various diameters.
-- Randall

On 12 June 2019 15:30:55 GMT-06:00, eric--- via Shop-talk <shop-talk at autox.team.net> wrote:
>Here is a quick question,  is there anyway to prolong the life of one
>of 
>those common black rubber bungee cords?
>
>My wood processor has custom made ones that dry rotted after about 5
>years 
>of indoor storage.  They aren't expensive, but it's a pain to have to 
>order them.
>
>Is there something I can put on them (an oil or silicone or something)
>to 
>prevent them from dry rotting?  Also, should I leave them without
>tension 
>when not in use?
>
>Thanks in advance for any help.
>
>
>Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
>Tech Viper
>"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a
>rational 
>being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph 
>Waldo Emerson 
>-Who is John Galt?
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From eric at megageek.com  Thu Jun 13 16:34:58 2019
From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com)
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 18:34:58 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] Rubber bungee cords
In-Reply-To: <1cd42770289d5cba78fc94f5d2629e1b.squirrel@automate-it.com>
References: <OF5E70EECE.767A86B6-ON85258417.0075E1C4-85258417.007630DA@mail.megageek.com>
 <CAOErii=qXQXycE3iqxt2tBgPwadxHTwHP47fv1NrpPuYRuWVqA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <OF77A51C47.1B9F4FD7-ON85258418.007BD8A4-85258418.007C0E15@mail.megageek.com>

It actually kills me to pay for the replacements, but they are a short 
length with a custom hole.  I will most likely not buy them again when 
these got and just used normal ones jury rigged, but for the cost of the 
machine, that is a little disappointing.

BTW, I have noticed that I do find them nearly as often as I use to. I 
think all the landscape guy around here just throw the stuff in enclosed 
trailers and go.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Tech Viper
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational 
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph 
Waldo Emerson 
-Who is John Galt?



From:   "Lee Daniels" <lee at automate-it.com>
To:     "Paul Parkanzky" <parkanzky at gmail.com>
Cc:     eric at megageek.com, "shop-talk" <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Date:   06/13/2019 18:19
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Rubber bungee cords



I don't worry too much about how long they last. I get free ones 
regularly.
The Woodlands, TX, must have one of the highest concentration of lawn
services. They all use the same pickup/trailer arrangement --- mowers,
blowers, edgers all held in with rubber bungees. They frequently lose 
them.
Since I regularly bike around this fine unincorporated suburb, I find them 
on
the road much faster than I use them up. So, get some exercise, keep your 
eyes
open.
 ;-)

Lee


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From jeffers at mwt.net  Sat Jun 15 15:44:54 2019
From: jeffers at mwt.net (Tom)
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 16:44:54 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] What is it
Message-ID: <6D9CC978-0381-4534-8DE4-41380C8C9185@mwt.net>

My friend found this among his fathers stuff. 

Tom

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From mdporter at dfn.com  Sat Jun 15 16:14:34 2019
From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter)
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 16:14:34 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] What is it
In-Reply-To: <6D9CC978-0381-4534-8DE4-41380C8C9185@mwt.net>
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On 6/15/2019 3:44 PM, Tom via Shop-talk wrote:
> My friend found this among his fathers stuff.
>
Best guess?? Motorcycle spoke wrench.


Cheers.

-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....



From t.w.jones1 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 15 16:17:04 2019
From: t.w.jones1 at gmail.com (Tom Jones)
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 18:17:04 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] What is it
In-Reply-To: <6D9CC978-0381-4534-8DE4-41380C8C9185@mwt.net>
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Message-ID: <CAJCmR7J9XgbotNcCeD6TKWLQVkDjV8MS_vn2pKy-+-sEzy9UbA@mail.gmail.com>

Wire Wheel Spoke Wrench

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 6:08 PM Tom via Shop-talk <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
wrote:

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>
> Tom
>
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From phoenix722 at comcast.net  Sat Jun 15 17:02:45 2019
From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair)
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 16:02:45 -0700
Subject: [Shop-talk] What is it
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Always interesting to go thru your father's tools.? Among other things I 
found a pair of pliers for pulling teeth.? My dentist identified it as a 
third molar remover, of course!

Mike


On 6/15/2019 3:17 PM, Tom Jones via Shop-talk wrote:
> Wire Wheel Spoke Wrench
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019, 6:08 PM Tom via Shop-talk 
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