[Shop-talk] Footings and piers for decks

[PJ McGarvey]

The site-mix truck that delivered mine fit down my 8' driveway. When I scheduled the delivery they requested something crazy like 15 feet of space. Might depend on your driver, but he was cooperative enough to let me prop up my fiber optic line while he slowly moved the truck under it. I'm not sure how much chute he could have given me but I just wheelbarrowed it about 20 feet to where my holes were. Might be worth a call to see how accommodating they are.
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From: Jim Franklin <jamesf at groupwbench.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 10:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Footings and piers for decks

Yep, 18" is spot on per the beam and joist spacing, but the pre-cast footer only comes in 22".

Getting the concrete to the location will be difficult. The house is up a 100' inclined driveway that won't support a full sized truck, and the then another 100' around back to the site. Even a pumper would need a lot of hose. Are there smaller/lighter site-mix trucks now? I suppose they could pump it to the top of the driveway and wheelbarrow it around back...

On Apr 16, 2020, at 10:15 PM, PJ McGarvey <pj_mcgarvey at hotmail.com<mailto:pj_mcgarvey at hotmail.com>> wrote:

I doubt you'll need more than 18" diameter footings for a deck.

In any case, I would pay a bit more for concrete delivery. I did this in November for a 16'x16' screened porch I'm almost finished with. For that diameter and depth, that's alot of concrete to mix correctly. In an hour you can have it delivered, poured, and save alot of hassle.

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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Footings and piers for decks

24” diameter hole is pretty large. I had 24” piers drilled by a company. They brought a large drill truck. I had 3 piers drilled 25’ deep, including bell bottoms. Cost was $800. Only reason I brought this up is it might not be that much over the cost of the skid steer to have someone else drill them.

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne
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> On Apr 16, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Jim Franklin via Shop-talk <shop-talk at autox.team.net<mailto:shop-talk at autox.team.net>> wrote:
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Having decided it's better to build a nice ornate deck out of PT than a small simple deck of of fancy materials, I'm looking at the foundation. Frost line here is 48" and I need 18" footings. I have found 3 options and I'm wondering if I missed anything:

1. Traditional concrete with forms and sonotubes
2. Pre-cast footings (22", 100 lbs)  and stackable piers (EZ-Tube)
3. Helical piles

I haven't heard back from the town on that last one and they're the priciest at $275 per. The pre-cast are $150 per. Concrete will require hauling about 45,000 bags into the backyard.

I'm leaning towards #2 . I don't own any yard equipment but I can rent a skid steer with auger, though not a 24" auger I don't think.

thanks,
jim
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