From fishplate at gmail.com Tue Oct 1 08:43:25 2024 From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 10:43:25 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Air In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Mike, Is that the regulator knob? Might be stuck or broken inside. A picture of what you're looking at would help - the online parts diagrams I found look like one of those joke lists from the 80s that had been faxed a hundred times. -- Jeff On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 7:43?PM Mike Sinclair wrote: > I have a very old small air compressor that compresses ok, but I no longer > can get it to send air to the outlet. There is a hand valve between the > gages that turns ok, but doesn't open the valve. It doesn't close it very > well, either. The knob turns fine, and bottoms out in both directions, but > nothing happens. Is it possible to buy a replacement? I'm hoping it's > just a simple remove and replace. > > Sears Model 916-176311. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phoenix722 at comcast.net Tue Oct 1 09:44:44 2024 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 08:44:44 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] Air In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1d49b375-d4aa-49b8-9f4e-482c8ffa2cb6@comcast.net> Some pictures attached.? The black thing.? I looked on the internet and found several parts sources, but nobody seems to carry this valve.? My experience with Sears is that they had many parts that were only available thru them.? I did take it apart and it looks fine.? Thought maybe it was just dirty. Mike On 10/1/24 7:43 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Is that the regulator knob?? Might be stuck or broken inside.? A > picture of what you're looking at would help - the online parts > diagrams I found look like one of those joke lists from the 80s that > had been faxed a hundred times. > > -- Jeff > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 7:43?PM Mike Sinclair > wrote: > > I have a very old small air compressor that compresses ok, but I > no longer can get it to send air to the outlet.? There is a hand > valve between the gages that turns ok, but doesn't open the > valve.? It doesn't close it very well, either.? The knob turns > fine, and bottoms out in both directions, but nothing happens.? Is > it possible to buy a replacement? I'm hoping it's just a simple > remove and replace. > > Sears Model 916-176311. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0904.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 94463 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0905.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 98864 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(I replaced the pressure switch, regulator, and gauges a couple years ago for a similar compressor for about $30.) Pictures would help someone tell you what you'd need. -- David Scheidt dmscheidt at gmail.com From phoenix722 at comcast.net Tue Oct 1 12:22:04 2024 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 11:22:04 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] Air In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4f64b88d-eae0-4db5-a4ba-614645b69b39@comcast.net> Thanks all for the advice.? Turned out the regulator is ok, but the plastic knob is connected via some very shallow splines on the stem, and doesn't connect well.? I wrapped the stem with Teflon tape and it works ok, but I need to find a better way.? I'll check at my favorite old-fashioned hardware store for a knob. Mike On 10/1/24 7:43 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Is that the regulator knob?? Might be stuck or broken inside.? A > picture of what you're looking at would help - the online parts > diagrams I found look like one of those joke lists from the 80s that > had been faxed a hundred times. > > -- Jeff > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 7:43?PM Mike Sinclair > wrote: > > I have a very old small air compressor that compresses ok, but I > no longer can get it to send air to the outlet.? There is a hand > valve between the gages that turns ok, but doesn't open the > valve.? It doesn't close it very well, either.? The knob turns > fine, and bottoms out in both directions, but nothing happens.? Is > it possible to buy a replacement? I'm hoping it's just a simple > remove and replace. > > Sears Model 916-176311. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Tue Oct 1 13:53:07 2024 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 12:53:07 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] Air In-Reply-To: <4f64b88d-eae0-4db5-a4ba-614645b69b39@comcast.net> References: <4f64b88d-eae0-4db5-a4ba-614645b69b39@comcast.net> Message-ID: Mike ? when I went out to look at my Craftsman compressor that has the same setup, I noticed that the regulator knob says ?pull to adjust?. I assume it has some splined interface between the outer knob and the inner knob to prevent accidental mis-adjustment. If you have been able to get the adjustment you need using Teflon tape as an interface you are probably good to go. The only other thing that comes to mind is whether they spent the extra money on that setup to compensate for the vibration generated when the unit is running. This is just pure speculation, but you might want to keep an eye out and ensure the pressure stays where you set it after the modification. ----------------------------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Shop-talk On Behalf Of Mike Sinclair Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:22 AM To: Jeff Scarbrough Cc: shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Air Thanks all for the advice. Turned out the regulator is ok, but the plastic knob is connected via some very shallow splines on the stem, and doesn't connect well. I wrapped the stem with Teflon tape and it works ok, but I need to find a better way. I'll check at my favorite old-fashioned hardware store for a knob. Mike On 10/1/24 7:43 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: Hi Mike, Is that the regulator knob? Might be stuck or broken inside. A picture of what you're looking at would help - the online parts diagrams I found look like one of those joke lists from the 80s that had been faxed a hundred times. -- Jeff On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 7:43?PM Mike Sinclair > wrote: I have a very old small air compressor that compresses ok, but I no longer can get it to send air to the outlet. There is a hand valve between the gages that turns ok, but doesn't open the valve. It doesn't close it very well, either. The knob turns fine, and bottoms out in both directions, but nothing happens. Is it possible to buy a replacement? I'm hoping it's just a simple remove and replace. Sears Model 916-176311. Mike _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 2643293 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stearman809 at gmail.com Tue Oct 1 16:10:25 2024 From: stearman809 at gmail.com (Karl Vacek) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 17:10:25 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Air In-Reply-To: References: <4f64b88d-eae0-4db5-a4ba-614645b69b39@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1924a227468.2898.cd27845553c78383775132770b7455be@gmail.com> My aircraft cylinder bleed down gauge uses one of those same goofy Chinese regulators, which well-meaning helpers have broken a few times. It has responded to epoxy and stern warnings to helpers to just let me adjust it. Karl On October 1, 2024 3:11:30 PM wrote: > Mike ? when I went out to look at my Craftsman compressor that has the same > setup, I noticed that the regulator knob says ?pull to adjust?. I assume it > has some splined interface between the outer knob and the inner knob to > prevent accidental mis-adjustment. > > If you have been able to get the adjustment you need using Teflon tape as > an interface you are probably good to go. The only other thing that comes > to mind is whether they spent the extra money on that setup to compensate > for the vibration generated when the unit is running. This is just pure > speculation, but you might want to keep an eye out and ensure the pressure > stays where you set it after the modification. > > > > ----------------------------------- > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > From: Shop-talk On Behalf Of Mike Sinclair > Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:22 AM > To: Jeff Scarbrough > Cc: shop-talk at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Air > > Thanks all for the advice. Turned out the regulator is ok, but the plastic > knob is connected via some very shallow splines on the stem, and doesn't > connect well. I wrapped the stem with Teflon tape and it works ok, but I > need to find a better way. I'll check at my favorite old-fashioned > hardware store for a knob. > Mike > On 10/1/24 7:43 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Is that the regulator knob? Might be stuck or broken inside. A picture of > what you're looking at would help - the online parts diagrams I found look > like one of those joke lists from the 80s that had been faxed a hundred times. > > -- Jeff > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 7:43?PM Mike Sinclair wrote: > I have a very old small air compressor that compresses ok, but I no longer > can get it to send air to the outlet. There is a hand valve between the > gages that turns ok, but doesn't open the valve. It doesn't close it very > well, either. The knob turns fine, and bottoms out in both directions, but > nothing happens. Is it possible to buy a replacement? I'm hoping it's > just a simple remove and replace. > Sears Model 916-176311. > Mike > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/stearman809 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: INL1 Type: image/jpeg Size: 2643293 bytes Desc: not available URL: From phoenix722 at comcast.net Tue Oct 1 17:46:57 2024 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:46:57 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] Air In-Reply-To: <1924a227468.2898.cd27845553c78383775132770b7455be@gmail.com> References: <4f64b88d-eae0-4db5-a4ba-614645b69b39@comcast.net> <1924a227468.2898.cd27845553c78383775132770b7455be@gmail.com> Message-ID: Both good ideas! Mike On 10/1/24 3:10 PM, Karl Vacek wrote: > My aircraft cylinder bleed down gauge uses one of those same goofy > Chinese regulators, which well-meaning helpers have broken a few times. > > It has responded to epoxy and stern warnings to helpers to just let me > adjust it. > > Karl > > On October 1, 2024 3:11:30 PM wrote: > >> Mike ? when I went out to look at my Craftsman compressor that has >> the same setup, I noticed that the regulator knob says ?pull to >> adjust?. I assume it has some splined interface between the outer >> knob and the inner knob to prevent accidental mis-adjustment. >> >> If you have been able to get the adjustment you need using Teflon >> tape as an interface you are probably good to go. The only other >> thing that comes to mind is whether they spent the extra money on >> that setup to compensate for the vibration generated when the unit is >> running. This is just pure speculation, but you might want to keep an >> eye out and ensure the pressure stays where you set it after the >> modification. >> >> ----------------------------------- >> >> All the best, >> >> Al Fuller >> >> *From:*Shop-talk *On Behalf Of >> *Mike Sinclair >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:22 AM >> *To:* Jeff Scarbrough >> *Cc:* shop-talk at autox.team.net >> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Air >> >> Thanks all for the advice.? Turned out the regulator is ok, but the >> plastic knob is connected via some very shallow splines on the stem, >> and doesn't connect well.? I wrapped the stem with Teflon tape and it >> works ok, but I need to find a better way. I'll check at my favorite >> old-fashioned hardware store for a knob. >> >> Mike >> >> On 10/1/24 7:43 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: >> >> Hi Mike, >> >> Is that the regulator knob?? Might be stuck or broken inside.? A >> picture of what you're looking at would help - the online parts >> diagrams I found look like one of those joke lists from the 80s >> that had been faxed a hundred times. >> >> -- Jeff >> >> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 7:43?PM Mike Sinclair >> wrote: >> >> I have a very old small air compressor that compresses ok, >> but I no longer can get it to send air to the outlet.? There >> is a hand valve between the gages that turns ok, but doesn't >> open the valve.? It doesn't close it very well, either.? The >> knob turns fine, and bottoms out in both directions, but >> nothing happens.? Is it possible to buy a replacement?? I'm >> hoping it's just a simple remove and replace. >> >> Sears Model 916-176311. >> >> Mike >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Shop-talk at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Shop-talk at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation? $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk >> >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/stearman809 at gmail.com >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/phoenix722 at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: INL1 Type: image/png Size: 2643293 bytes Desc: not available URL: From phoenix722 at comcast.net Tue Oct 1 17:47:44 2024 From: phoenix722 at comcast.net (Mike Sinclair) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:47:44 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] Air In-Reply-To: References: <4f64b88d-eae0-4db5-a4ba-614645b69b39@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thanks.? No "pull to adjust".? Just a plastic knob that is softer than the metal stem splines.? This unit is probably 30 years old. Mike On 10/1/24 12:53 PM, alfuller194 at gmail.com wrote: > > Mike ? when I went out to look at my Craftsman compressor that has the > same setup, I noticed that the regulator knob says ?pull to adjust?. I > assume it has some splined interface between the outer knob and the > inner knob to prevent accidental mis-adjustment. > > If you have been able to get the adjustment you need using Teflon tape > as an interface you are probably good to go. The only other thing that > comes to mind is whether they spent the extra money on that setup to > compensate for the vibration generated when the unit is running. This > is just pure speculation, but you might want to keep an eye out and > ensure the pressure stays where you set it after the modification. > > ----------------------------------- > > All the best, > > Al Fuller > > *From:*Shop-talk *On Behalf Of > *Mike Sinclair > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:22 AM > *To:* Jeff Scarbrough > *Cc:* shop-talk at autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Air > > Thanks all for the advice.? Turned out the regulator is ok, but the > plastic knob is connected via some very shallow splines on the stem, > and doesn't connect well.? I wrapped the stem with Teflon tape and it > works ok, but I need to find a better way.? I'll check at my favorite > old-fashioned hardware store for a knob. > > Mike > > On 10/1/24 7:43 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > Is that the regulator knob?? Might be stuck or broken inside.? A > picture of what you're looking at would help - the online parts > diagrams I found look like one of those joke lists from the 80s > that had been faxed a hundred times. > > -- Jeff > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 7:43?PM Mike Sinclair > wrote: > > I have a very old small air compressor that compresses ok, but > I no longer can get it to send air to the outlet.? There is a > hand valve between the gages that turns ok, but doesn't open > the valve.? It doesn't close it very well, either.? The knob > turns fine, and bottoms out in both directions, but nothing > happens.? Is it possible to buy a replacement?? I'm hoping > it's just a simple remove and replace. > > Sears Model 916-176311. > > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/phoenix722 at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Yeah ? this one is likely that old too. It?s getting pretty noisy and I don?t want to spend the time to find a new cylinder for it, which would quiet it down. The good thing is I don?t need to use it a lot these days. I could probably get by with something a lot smaller and quieter. ----------------------------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Shop-talk On Behalf Of Mike Sinclair Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2024 4:48 PM To: shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Air Thanks. No "pull to adjust". Just a plastic knob that is softer than the metal stem splines. This unit is probably 30 years old. Mike On 10/1/24 12:53 PM, alfuller194 at gmail.com wrote: Mike ? when I went out to look at my Craftsman compressor that has the same setup, I noticed that the regulator knob says ?pull to adjust?. I assume it has some splined interface between the outer knob and the inner knob to prevent accidental mis-adjustment. If you have been able to get the adjustment you need using Teflon tape as an interface you are probably good to go. The only other thing that comes to mind is whether they spent the extra money on that setup to compensate for the vibration generated when the unit is running. This is just pure speculation, but you might want to keep an eye out and ensure the pressure stays where you set it after the modification. ----------------------------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Shop-talk

On Behalf Of Mike Sinclair Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:22 AM To: Jeff Scarbrough Cc: shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Air Thanks all for the advice. Turned out the regulator is ok, but the plastic knob is connected via some very shallow splines on the stem, and doesn't connect well. I wrapped the stem with Teflon tape and it works ok, but I need to find a better way. I'll check at my favorite old-fashioned hardware store for a knob. Mike On 10/1/24 7:43 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: Hi Mike, Is that the regulator knob? Might be stuck or broken inside. A picture of what you're looking at would help - the online parts diagrams I found look like one of those joke lists from the 80s that had been faxed a hundred times. -- Jeff On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 7:43?PM Mike Sinclair > wrote: I have a very old small air compressor that compresses ok, but I no longer can get it to send air to the outlet. There is a hand valve between the gages that turns ok, but doesn't open the valve. It doesn't close it very well, either. The knob turns fine, and bottoms out in both directions, but nothing happens. Is it possible to buy a replacement? I'm hoping it's just a simple remove and replace. Sears Model 916-176311. Mike _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/fishplate at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/phoenix722 at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I plan to keep the floor dry and clean up any spills as they are made. I won't typically bring in a wet or snow-covered car. I generally wear shoes in the shop, and my shoes generally have tread. I'd appreciate any insight from those who have coated a floor and gone smooth or gritty, and how you feel about your choice. TIA, Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shop-talk2 at mcfetridge.org Mon Oct 14 10:54:41 2024 From: shop-talk2 at mcfetridge.org (Ian McFetridge) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:54:41 -0400 Subject: [Shop-talk] Shop/Garage Floor Coating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I did one garage with grit (flakes) and the other without. The grit definitely adds traction, I feel more than once on the smooth one. As you said the smooth cleaned up much easier, in particular, it was simple to spray and squeegee clean. If I did it again I?d go with light grit as I get old and bounce less. On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 12:13 PM Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > Got a question for the group: > > I'm having my shop floor coated. They are using a polyaspartic coating > after floor prep (surface grinding. My question is related to the finish: > They can leave it as is with the self-leveling (glossyish) finish, or they > can put some grit in it to give it more traction. > > I've had experience in laboratory construction, where the expectation is > that the floor will be washed often and thus wet, so a grit is usually used > to provide traction. But the grit can make mopping more complicated as it > drags the mop. Plus, it just looks funny, like it has dirt on it. > > I can get a number of grit particle sizes and densities, but I keep > wondering if I'll really need it. I plan to keep the floor dry and clean > up any spills as they are made. I won't typically bring in a wet or > snow-covered car. I generally wear shoes in the shop, and my shoes > generally have tread. > > I'd appreciate any insight from those who have coated a floor and gone > smooth or gritty, and how you feel about your choice. > > TIA, > Jeff > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/shop-talk2 at mcfetridge.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JIBrooks at live.com Mon Oct 14 15:09:55 2024 From: JIBrooks at live.com (Jack Brooks) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 21:09:55 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] Shop/Garage Floor Coating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jeff, I worked in the industrial side of Epoxy coatings some years ago and we required they sign our ?Release of Liability? document from the client stating they understood how slick a non-textured floor can be before we would install it. If you figure you will ever have oil or other lubricants on your garage floor, I?d strongly suggest at least a light texture. Jack From: Shop-talk On Behalf Of Jeff Scarbrough Sent: Monday, October 14, 2024 9:02 AM To: shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: [Shop-talk] Shop/Garage Floor Coating Got a question for the group: I'm having my shop floor coated. They are using a polyaspartic coating after floor prep (surface grinding. My question is related to the finish: They can leave it as is with the self-leveling (glossyish) finish, or they can put some grit in it to give it more traction. I've had experience in laboratory construction, where the expectation is that the floor will be washed often and thus wet, so a grit is usually used to provide traction. But the grit can make mopping more complicated as it drags the mop. Plus, it just looks funny, like it has dirt on it. I can get a number of grit particle sizes and densities, but I keep wondering if I'll really need it. I plan to keep the floor dry and clean up any spills as they are made. I won't typically bring in a wet or snow-covered car. I generally wear shoes in the shop, and my shoes generally have tread. I'd appreciate any insight from those who have coated a floor and gone smooth or gritty, and how you feel about your choice. TIA, Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Thu Oct 17 12:40:37 2024 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 11:40:37 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] video editor software In-Reply-To: <1UheSHYA6q.1BGIRYtbzu3@johns-desktop> References: <1UheSHYA6q.1BGIRYtbzu3.ref@johns-desktop> <1UheSHYA6q.1BGIRYtbzu3@johns-desktop> Message-ID: <16a4901db20c4$0fc1f590$2f45e0b0$@gmail.com> John ? you could try the free VLC video player. It has basic cropping, so you could use it for a 1-off [as opposed to regular use in video editing]. The program is available here: https://www.videolan.org/vlc/ Apparently, you have to actually play the video, starting and stopping where you want the crop. While that?s fine for a single video, I wouldn?t want to have to put up with that regularly. I tried it with a .mov someone sent me and it cropped it just fine. I found a decent guide on using VLC for cropping and other video manipulation here: https://www.videoconverterfactory.com/tips/vlc-video-editor.html The guides I found wee not clear on where to find the cropped video. It looks like the default location on a Windows PC is the Videos folder, but you could set a different default before you did the cropping. If you are working in Linux or some other OS like the Apple Linux variants, I?m unsure whether the instructions hold. ----------------------------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Shop-talk On Behalf Of john niolon Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2024 4:24 AM To: shop-talk Subject: [Shop-talk] video editor software I made a iPhone video (,mov file) that I need to edit the length... cut out the beginning and end and save the juicy part in the middle anyone suggest a program/app that works... 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It's a little tricky to activate the sliders - mine is white for just scrolling, but turns yellow (as below) when you've grabbed it for cropping. When you're done, you can overwrite the current video or save it as a new one. I hope this helps! Lee On 2024-10-17 06:23, john niolon wrote: > I made a iPhone video (,mov file) that I need to edit the length... cut > out the beginning and end and save the juicy part in the middle > > anyone suggest a program/app that works... 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It has basic cropping, so you could use it for a 1-off [as opposed to regular use in video editing]. > > > >The program is available here: https://www.videolan.org/vlc/ > > > >Apparently, you have to actually play the video, starting and stopping where you want the crop. While that?s fine for a single video, I wouldn?t want to have to put up with that regularly. I tried it with a .mov someone sent me and it cropped it just fine. > > > >I found a decent guide on using VLC for cropping and other video manipulation here: https://www.videoconverterfactory.com/tips/vlc-video-editor.html > > > >The guides I found wee not clear on where to find the cropped video. It looks like the default location on a Windows PC is the Videos folder, but you could set a different default before you did the cropping. If you are working in Linux or some other OS like the Apple Linux variants, I?m unsure whether the instructions hold. > > > >----------------------------------- > >All the best, > > > >Al Fuller > > > >From: Shop-talk On Behalf Of john niolon >Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2024 4:24 AM >To: shop-talk >Subject: [Shop-talk] video editor software > > > >I made a iPhone video (,mov file) that I need to edit the length... cut out the beginning and end and save the juicy part in the middle > > > >anyone suggest a program/app that works... I tried Canva and Ivideo but never found how to edit that way > > > >shop content... video is made of doing stuff in my shop > >thanks > >john > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jniolon at att.net Thu Oct 17 13:54:56 2024 From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2024 14:54:56 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] video editor software In-Reply-To: References: <1UheSHYA6q.1BGIRYtbzu3.ref@johns-desktop> <1UheSHYA6q.1BGIRYtbzu3@johns-desktop> Message-ID: <1UheSNApST.3DrcSmcJlOo@johns-desktop> thanks Lee...never saw that feature...worked like a charm Al, tried that software and it was smarter than me !! but thanks for the suggestion john ----- Original Message ----- From: To: john niolon Cc: shop-talk Sent: 10/17/2024 2:10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] video editor software John - It may depend on which iPhone you have, but on mine (I have both iPhone-11 and - 12), you can crop the ends of the video right there on your phone. Open the video (in Photos), at the top you should see an "Edit" button, that allows sliders (red circle in screen-shot below) at the bottom that you can use to crop from either/both ends. It's a little tricky to activate the sliders - mine is white for just scrolling, but turns yellow (as below) when you've grabbed it for cropping. When you're done, you can overwrite the current video or save it as a new one. I hope this helps! Lee On 2024-10-17 06:23, john niolon wrote: I made a iPhone video (,mov file) that I need to edit the length... cut out the beginning and end and save the juicy part in the middle anyone suggest a program/app that works... I tried Canva and Ivideo but never found how to edit that way shop content... video is made of doing stuff in my shop thanks john _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/lee at automate-it.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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None of this was cheap, about $6.75/sq.ft. all in, but it was a quality product installed by people who know what they are doing. I'm OK with that. Some closeups,and a shot of the finished floor: [image: PXL_20241017_192423083.jpg][image: PXL_20241017_192432701.jpg][image: PXL_20241016_192140649.jpg] On Mon, Oct 14, 2024 at 12:02?PM Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > Got a question for the group: > > I'm having my shop floor coated. They are using a polyaspartic coating > after floor prep (surface grinding. My question is related to the finish: > They can leave it as is with the self-leveling (glossyish) finish, or they > can put some grit in it to give it more traction. > > I've had experience in laboratory construction, where the expectation is > that the floor will be washed often and thus wet, so a grit is usually used > to provide traction. But the grit can make mopping more complicated as it > drags the mop. Plus, it just looks funny, like it has dirt on it. > > I can get a number of grit particle sizes and densities, but I keep > wondering if I'll really need it. I plan to keep the floor dry and clean > up any spills as they are made. I won't typically bring in a wet or > snow-covered car. I generally wear shoes in the shop, and my shoes > generally have tread. > > I'd appreciate any insight from those who have coated a floor and gone > smooth or gritty, and how you feel about your choice. > > TIA, > Jeff > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: PXL_20241017_192423083.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1873192 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Oct 17, 2024 at 2:12?PM Jim Juhas wrote: > John, > > Realplayer, if on a computer, can trim the beginning and end of a movie > file in its Converter app, part of the free stuff. Also handy for > converting movie files to different formats. Trimming works the same way as > the iPhone editor does. > > Jim > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 17, 2024, at 4:04?PM, john niolon wrote: > > ? > thanks Lee...never saw that feature...worked like a charm > > Al, tried that software and it was smarter than me !! but thanks for the > suggestion > > john > > > > *----- Original Message -----* > *From:* > *To:* john niolon > *Cc:* shop-talk > *Sent:* 10/17/2024 2:10:18 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] video editor software > ------------------------------ > > John - > > It may depend on which iPhone you have, but on mine (I have both iPhone-11 > and -12), you can crop the ends of the video right there on your phone. > Open the video (in Photos), at the top you should see an "Edit" button, > that allows sliders (red circle in screen-shot below) at the bottom that > you can use to crop from either/both ends. It's a little tricky to activate > the sliders - mine is white for just scrolling, but turns yellow (as below) > when you've grabbed it for cropping. When you're done, you can overwrite > the current video or save it as a new one. > > > > > I hope this helps! > > Lee > > > > On 2024-10-17 06:23, john niolon wrote: > > I made a iPhone video (,mov file) that I need to edit the length... cut > out the beginning and end and save the juicy part in the middle > > anyone suggest a program/app that works... I tried Canva and Ivideo but > never found how to edit that way > > shop content... video is made of doing stuff in my shop > thanks > john > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/lee at automate-it.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/james.f.juhas at snet.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/berry at kerch.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Maybe try a super cheap pair of wireless earbuds to see what you think for short money? jim > On Oct 25, 2024, at 10:05 PM, Tim . wrote: > > .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask. > > I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight. > > I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider wireless. > > I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on other topics, firsthand knowledge. > > My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot find any email proof of this. > > Thanks all > a foggy old man > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf at groupwbench.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mbarre at juno.com Sat Oct 26 07:52:56 2024 From: mbarre at juno.com (Matt) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 13:52:56 GMT Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... Message-ID: <20241026.095256.22323.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> I used to be the same way preferring wired but they are phasing out jacks on newer equipment?!?I made the jump to wireless and am not looking back as they are great.The Bose bluetooth headset I use when flying works great and it is easy to switch between music or to take a call. My non aviation Sony bluetooth headphones were cheaper and even more advanced - I am still figuring out their impressive capabilities. I am not a big bud person but many of my friends are and it sounds like the capabilities are very comparable. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Tim ." To: "Shop Talk" Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 02:05:54 +0000 .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask. I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight. I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider wireless. I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on other topics, firsthand knowledge. My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot find any email proof of this. Thanks alla foggy old man -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From markmiller at threeboysfarm.com Sat Oct 26 11:52:13 2024 From: markmiller at threeboysfarm.com (Mark Miller) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 10:52:13 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] wired headphones w noise reduction In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0b9e3fb2-f49c-4061-95ce-cc03d623ecff@threeboysfarm.com> I have these and they are reasonably good. I only use them now when flying. https://www.ebay.com/itm/226013440306?_skw=sony+noice+reducing+headphones+wired&epid=2254537364&itmmeta=01JB4YYACSZA1SM8Z77VKTEXSZ&hash=item349f736932%3Ag%3ABZ0AAOSwaF5l1iyY&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAABAHoV3kP08IDx%2BKZ9MfhVJKlVd9VCl0WRLyJ75p%2F3d3e%2BJLToh4yOoog%2BzqngIM--BKMci13Xg6dCS6TdLwaPOHSBgOP8TurPhBhQ2KgSSbZE06Mg%2BjNG0BbIJC9aYO13vX0W2XFj4oUVp1syoIv4Zy8ZPPxhQmH6ek7enLTZDF%2FM2ZKubS7ppyu4Id8R17FJbApMBEoa2DQZ1EpjHDktUY9su%2Bsn21mpU%2FzoFQA09jd4LvLVy7Ts%2FSi8MZ5S%2BITS%2BztcEHg1bR2%2FgAXDyYWhivxDmIRoedE8AgHE%2FWLjRuj%2BbrZtX7AwogTzONV%2Bzobun1BFplVuMD7xIbLdkM2S3RM%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9Sm-Z7ZZA&var=525118156942 Regards, Mark Miller 707-490-5834 markmiller at threeboysfarm.com > To: "Shop Talk" > Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask. > > I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight. > > I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider wireless. > > I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on other topics, firsthand knowledge. > > My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot find any email proof of this. > > Thanks all > a foggy old man > From miq at bigllama.com Sat Oct 26 13:21:29 2024 From: miq at bigllama.com (MIQ MILLMAN) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 12:21:29 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Airplanes are one of the last few things that are still using 3.5mm jacks for audio. I use these: https://a.co/d/gKquRdn They have changeable wired connectors that allow me to swap them for a usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or tablet. One change I do is swap out the thin silicon bulbs for the ear canal with a replacement memory foam upgrade: https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx I've used this most recently on a trip to India where I was in a plane for over 16 hours on the longest leg, as well as a couple of 17+ hour flights to South Africa. These earbuds are not active, but with the memory foam they do a great job and have excellent sound quality for under $30 I had another pair that lasted at least 10 years, thanks to being able to replace the wires when they degraded from over bending. I've been flying a lot the past 3 years, averaging over 150,000 miles of international travel, and used them even when flying business/first where the airline offers a powered over ear headset in the seat, due to comfort. ymmv --Miq On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:19?PM Tim . wrote: > .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask. > > I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight. > > I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I > would consider wireless. > > I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on > other topics, firsthand knowledge. > > My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot > find any email proof of this. > > Thanks all > a foggy old man > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/miq at bigllama.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Not too expensive either. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NM3RSRQ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1 On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 9:24?PM Tim . wrote: > .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask. > > I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight. > > I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I > would consider wireless. > > I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on > other topics, firsthand knowledge. > > My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot > find any email proof of this. > > Thanks all > a foggy old man > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jdinnis at gmail.com > > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sat Oct 26 14:07:18 2024 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 15:07:18 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... In-Reply-To: <20241026.095256.22323.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20241026.095256.22323.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: For headphones I suggest checking out the comparison tests on CNet.com. As far as wired vs wireless, that?s your choice, but usually wired will be cheaper, of course. Don?t be too concerned about your phone or other devices (iPads) not having a headphone jack. AFAIK, they will have a USB-C port that?s multi function. Apple sells a short pigtail that has a 3.5 mm headphone jack and a USB-C male plug that works with wired headphones. It works fine with my wired Apple headphones on my phone and iPad. I also have a couple of pigtails that split the USB-C port allowing power and audio to be connected to a phone or tablet simultaneously. I got the Apple pigtail at Best Buy, the dual port version from there, too, or Amazon, IIRC. Prices for noise canceling headphones are all over the place. If you want decent noise canceling functionality you?ll probably want the closed ear type. I?ve used Sony MDR series phones for studio work but they weren?t noise canceling. Sennheiser are also highly recommended. All of this said, I understand that some of the better hearing aids offer Bluetooth connectivity for us old farts! HTH On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 9:14?AM Matt wrote: > I used to be the same way preferring wired but they are phasing out jacks > on newer equipment?!? > I made the jump to wireless and am not looking back as they are great. > The Bose bluetooth headset I use when flying works great and it is easy to > switch between music or to take a call. > > My non aviation Sony bluetooth headphones were cheaper and even more > advanced - I am still figuring out their impressive capabilities. > > I am not a big bud person but many of my friends are and it sounds like > the capabilities are very comparable. > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: "Tim ." > To: "Shop Talk" > Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... > Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 02:05:54 +0000 > > .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask. > > I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight. > > I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I > would consider wireless. > > I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on > other topics, firsthand knowledge. > > My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot > find any email proof of this. > > Thanks all > a foggy old man > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/ronnie.day at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronald.griffing at comcast.net Sat Oct 26 14:37:35 2024 From: ronald.griffing at comcast.net (RONALD GRIFFING) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1912483601.60465.1729975055666@connect.xfinity.com> My wife and I have SuperEQ S1 Hybrid Active Noise-Cancelling Bluetooth Headphones. They have a jack to used wired, and they come with a adapter to plug into aircraft entertainment systems. Ron > On 10/25/2024 7:05 PM PDT Tim . wrote: > > > .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask. > > I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight. > > I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider wireless. > > I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on other topics, firsthand knowledge. > > My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot find any email proof of this. > > Thanks all > a foggy old man > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/ronald.griffing at comcast.net > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alfuller194 at gmail.com Sat Oct 26 22:39:42 2024 From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (alfuller194 at gmail.com) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 21:39:42 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1cb8b01db282a$3e366010$baa32030$@gmail.com> Miq ? do you have any feel for whether the earphones you recommended allow enough ambient sound in to be used when driving an open car? I could use something that knocks down the road- and wind-noise, but still allows me to hear sirens, horns, etc. [not to mention being on the legal side of being able to hear]. I?ve used similar units in the past, combining basic off-the-shelf earphones with custom ear molds. It would be great to get something that works without a lot of work!! ----------------------------------- All the best, Al Fuller From: Shop-talk On Behalf Of MIQ MILLMAN Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:21 PM To: Tim . Cc: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... Airplanes are one of the last few things that are still using 3.5mm jacks for audio. I use these: https://a.co/d/gKquRdn They have changeable wired connectors that allow me to swap them for a usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or tablet. One change I do is swap out the thin silicon bulbs for the ear canal with a replacement memory foam upgrade: https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx I've used this most recently on a trip to India where I was in a plane for over 16 hours on the longest leg, as well as a couple of 17+ hour flights to South Africa. These earbuds are not active, but with the memory foam they do a great job and have excellent sound quality for under $30 I had another pair that lasted at least 10 years, thanks to being able to replace the wires when they degraded from over bending. I've been flying a lot the past 3 years, averaging over 150,000 miles of international travel, and used them even when flying business/first where the airline offers a powered over ear headset in the seat, due to comfort. ymmv --Miq On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:19?PM Tim . > wrote: .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask. I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight. I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider wireless. I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on other topics, firsthand knowledge. My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot find any email proof of this. Thanks all a foggy old man _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/miq at bigllama.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miq at bigllama.com Sat Oct 26 23:15:11 2024 From: miq at bigllama.com (MIQ MILLMAN) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 22:15:11 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... In-Reply-To: <1cb8b01db282a$3e366010$baa32030$@gmail.com> References: <1cb8b01db282a$3e366010$baa32030$@gmail.com> Message-ID: These foam inserts decrease ambient noise by 16-18 dB. If there's a crying kid on the plane you can ignore them fairly easily, but still converse with the flight attendant. However, I pull them out to have a conversation. I've never used them while driving, because I don't typically listen to music on my phone, but also because it's illegal in 1/3 of the States to have ear buds in while driving. As a point of reference, the roll-squeeze foam ear plugs that are used for heavy equipment or shooting ranges decrease noise by 32-38 dB. These _will_ block horns and distant sirens. If you live in a state where it's legal to use ear buds, try it out. --Miq On Sat, Oct 26, 2024, 9:46?PM wrote: > Miq ? do you have any feel for whether the earphones you recommended allow > enough ambient sound in to be used when driving an open car? I could use > something that knocks down the road- and wind-noise, but still allows me to > hear sirens, horns, etc. [not to mention being on the legal side of being > able to hear]. I?ve used similar units in the past, combining basic > off-the-shelf earphones with custom ear molds. > > > > It would be great to get something that works without a lot of work!! > > > > ----------------------------------- > > All the best, > > > > Al Fuller > > > > *From:* Shop-talk *On Behalf Of *MIQ > MILLMAN > *Sent:* Saturday, October 26, 2024 12:21 PM > *To:* Tim . > *Cc:* Shop Talk > *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... > > > > Airplanes are one of the last few things that are still using 3.5mm jacks > for audio. > > > > I use these: > > > > https://a.co/d/gKquRdn > > > > They have changeable wired connectors that allow me to swap them for a > usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or tablet. > > > > One change I do is swap out the thin silicon bulbs for the ear canal with > a replacement memory foam upgrade: > > > > https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx > > > > I've used this most recently on a trip to India where I was in a plane for > over 16 hours on the longest leg, as well as a couple of 17+ hour flights > to South Africa. > > > > These earbuds are not active, but with the memory foam they do a great job > and have excellent sound quality for under $30 > > > > I had another pair that lasted at least 10 years, thanks to being able to > replace the wires when they degraded from over bending. > > > > I've been flying a lot the past 3 years, averaging over 150,000 miles of > international travel, and used them even when flying business/first where > the airline offers a powered over ear headset in the seat, due to comfort. > > > > ymmv > > --Miq > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:19?PM Tim . > wrote: > > .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask. > > > > I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight. > > > > I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I > would consider wireless. > > > > I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on > other topics, firsthand knowledge. > > > > My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot > find any email proof of this. > > > > Thanks all > > a foggy old man > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/miq at bigllama.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/miq at bigllama.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhlocker at protonmail.com Sun Oct 27 10:03:13 2024 From: dhlocker at protonmail.com (dhlocker) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 16:03:13 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... In-Reply-To: References: <78c0d1f3-c9e5-40f9-89f8-5d0a846ebcfb@protonmail.com> Message-ID: <5d9e73ed-d935-4fcf-a987-d38a307871ff@protonmail.com> Thank you very much, Miq. Donald. On 10/27/24 11:54, MIQ MILLMAN wrote: > Yinyoo KZ ZSN > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Q2SQR8V > > Comply Foam 500 series > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002DY92UA > > Upgraded replacement cable in 3.5mm (unit I linked is usb type-c) > https://www.amazon.com/Length-Monitor-Upgraded-Replacement-Earphones/dp/B0C9QQYGV6?th=1 > > you can choose between 1.2m and 2m length > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 7:13?AM dhlocker wrote: > >> Can you please provide a brand and model for these? Or a non-obfuscated link to the products? (Link obfuscators/shorteners are notorious for security problems.) >> >> Many thanks, >> Donald. >> >> On 10/26/24 15:21, MIQ MILLMAN wrote: >> >>> Airplanes are one of the last few things that are still using 3.5mm jacks for audio. >>> >>> I use these: >>> >>> https://a.co/d/gKquRdn >>> >>> They have changeable wired connectors that allow me to swap them for a usb-c connector so I can connect them to my phone or tablet. >>> >>> One change I do is swap out the thin silicon bulbs for the ear canal with a replacement memory foam upgrade: >>> >>> https://a.co/d/ftfoAIx >>> >>> I've used this most recently on a trip to India where I was in a plane for over 16 hours on the longest leg, as well as a couple of 17+ hour flights to South Africa. >>> >>> These earbuds are not active, but with the memory foam they do a great job and have excellent sound quality for under $30 >>> >>> I had another pair that lasted at least 10 years, thanks to being able to replace the wires when they degraded from over bending. >>> >>> I've been flying a lot the past 3 years, averaging over 150,000 miles of international travel, and used them even when flying business/first where the airline offers a powered over ear headset in the seat, due to comfort. >>> >>> ymmv >>> --Miq >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 7:19?PM Tim . wrote: >>> >>>> .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask. >>>> >>>> I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight. >>>> >>>> I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider wireless. >>>> >>>> I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on other topics, firsthand knowledge. >>>> >>>> My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot find any email proof of this. >>>> >>>> Thanks all >>>> a foggy old man >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Shop-talk at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/miq at bigllama.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Sun Oct 27 10:37:08 2024 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2024 16:37:08 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for the replies all, especially the (reminder for me) cnet.com one. I had forgotten about their reviews. tim ________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of Tim . Sent: Friday, October 25, 2024 9:05 PM To: Shop Talk Subject: [Shop-talk] reaching out to the collective.... .....OT ask but you all have more knowledge than anyone else I can ask. I need noise cancelling head phones for an upcoming flight. I prefer wired for some fool reason ( call me old and old school ) but I would consider wireless. I did some google searching but prefer, again, as I've asked before on other topics, firsthand knowledge. My fogged brain thinks I've asked about this topic before but I cannot find any email proof of this. 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The stock tips apple puts on their airpods do not fit my ears -- they don't seal, they fall out, or they're too big and hurt, but a replacement set of silicone covered foam ones makes them fit perfectly, good seal, more sound isolation, and more comfortable. One travel tip: pack a spare pair, or at least the originals, because they don't last forever, and you will be very mad if they break at the start of a flight. (I learned this hard way...) Another traveo point: I had over the ear 'phones for a long time. They work great, but they were annoying on planes, because you can't lean the side of your head on the wall, it moves the cup and is uncomfortable. -- David Scheidt dmscheidt at gmail.com