From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Sat Feb 1 09:03:31 2025 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 16:03:31 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] Bad breaker? Message-ID: The breaker that controls my sink grinder's outlet seems to have failed. It won't reset. It is simply a matter of replacing the breaker with a new one or might there be another issue in the circuit? Near as I can tell that breaker only has one outlet on it. (house was built in 1905 or so and still has active knob and tube. ffs. And there are at least four breakers controlling our tiny kitchen.) Also, the outlet is not GFI so I want to replace it but can't really fit under the sink to do it. So, can I just replace the breaker or should I bite the bullet and call and electrician? Thanks tim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jamesf at groupwbench.org Sat Feb 1 09:36:28 2025 From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 11:36:28 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Bad breaker? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you shut off the breaker, confirm there is no voltage on the output side of it, and test for continuity between the breaker output and ground, you should get a good idea if the breaker is actually doing its job, i.e. there's short somewhere. If you don't see continuity, it's an unknown, in which case I'd replace it with a GFI breaker (since you want to do that anyway) and see what happens. jim > On Feb 1, 2025, at 11:03 AM, Tim . wrote: > > The breaker that controls my sink grinder's outlet seems to have failed. It won't reset. > > It is simply a matter of replacing the breaker with a new one or might there be another issue in the circuit? Near as I can tell that breaker only has one outlet on it. (house was built in 1905 or so and still has active knob and tube. ffs. And there are at least four breakers controlling our tiny kitchen.) Also, the outlet is not GFI so I want to replace it but can't really fit under the sink to do it. > > So, can I just replace the breaker or should I bite the bullet and call and electrician? > > Thanks > tim > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf at groupwbench.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com Sat Feb 1 10:10:55 2025 From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 17:10:55 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] Bad breaker? In-Reply-To: <38bd39a2-c407-475a-8668-a137a9375f71@garrison-grafixx.com> References: <38bd39a2-c407-475a-8668-a137a9375f71@garrison-grafixx.com> Message-ID: I did but mainly to make sure it wasn't the grinder (which worked fine when plugged into an extension cord. And, to be clear, I wasn't asking about replacing the breaker with a GFI (but I will), I was wondering about replacing the outlet with GFI. Thanks guys ________________________________ From: Gene Garrison Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2025 11:01 AM To: Tim . Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Bad breaker? Probably an obvious question, but did you unplug the grinder to make sure it's not just continuing to trip the breaker? - GeneG On 2/1/25 8:03 AM, Tim . wrote: The breaker that controls my sink grinder's outlet seems to have failed. It won't reset. It is simply a matter of replacing the breaker with a new one or might there be another issue in the circuit? Near as I can tell that breaker only has one outlet on it. (house was built in 1905 or so and still has active knob and tube. ffs. And there are at least four breakers controlling our tiny kitchen.) Also, the outlet is not GFI so I want to replace it but can't really fit under the sink to do it. So, can I just replace the breaker or should I bite the bullet and call and electrician? Thanks tim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/gene at garrison-grafixx.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronnie.day at gmail.com Sat Feb 1 10:16:20 2025 From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 11:16:20 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] Bad breaker? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tim, Are you sure the problem isn't the disposal? If it's on a plug instead of being hardwired use a short12 gauge extension cord to plug it into a plug on a different breaker. I'd also plug something into the plug under the sink to make sure the circuit is OK. If there isn't a plug under the sink, I'd suggest adding one while you're sorting this all out. I have a Klein 80016 Circuit Tester that's been invaluable for testing electrics. It's not super cheap around $55 for the whole kit but I use it, at least the plug tester, frequently. You should have a plug tester at the very least. As far as doing any work other than testing, you'll have to decide. Pushing 78, I do little, if any work that calls for me to get down on the floor or/and into tight spaces unless I absolutely have to! HTH, Ron On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 10:20?AM Tim . wrote: > The breaker that controls my sink grinder's outlet seems to have failed. > It won't reset. > > It is simply a matter of replacing the breaker with a new one or might > there be another issue in the circuit? Near as I can tell that breaker only > has one outlet on it. (house was built in 1905 or so and still has active > knob and tube. ffs. And there are at least four breakers controlling our > tiny kitchen.) Also, the outlet is not GFI so I want to replace it but > can't really fit under the sink to do it. > > So, can I just replace the breaker or should I bite the bullet and call > and electrician? > > Thanks > tim > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/ronnie.day at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fishplate at gmail.com Sat Feb 1 10:30:10 2025 From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 12:30:10 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Bad breaker? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 1, 2025, 12:08 Jim Franklin wrote: > If you shut off the breaker, confirm there is no voltage on the output > side of it, and test for continuity between the breaker output and ground, > You would want to have the grinder disconnected and the kitchen switch on to properly test for a short, I think. Does it snap off, or just sort of not latch on? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org Sat Feb 1 10:34:15 2025 From: mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org (Jimmie Mayfield) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 12:34:15 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Bad breaker? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: The fly in the ointment is the k&t wiring.? Will a GFI or AFI breaker work reliably with k&t? J On 2/1/25 11:36, Jim Franklin wrote: > If you shut off the breaker, confirm there is no voltage on the output > side of it, and test for continuity between the breaker output and > ground, you should get a good idea if the breaker is actually doing > its job, i.e. there's short somewhere. If you don't see continuity, > it's an unknown, in which case I'd replace it with a GFI breaker > (since you want to do that anyway) and see what happens. > > jim > >> On Feb 1, 2025, at 11:03 AM, Tim . wrote: >> >> The breaker that controls my sink grinder's outlet seems to have >> failed. It won't reset. >> >> It is simply a matter of replacing the breaker with a new one or >> might there be another issue in the circuit? Near as I can tell that >> breaker only has one outlet on it. (house was built in 1905 or so and >> still has active knob and tube. ffs. And there are at least four >> breakers controlling our tiny kitchen.) Also, the outlet is not GFI >> so I want to replace it but can't really fit under the sink to do it. >> >> So, can I just replace the breaker or should I bite the bullet and >> call and electrician? >> >> Thanks >> tim >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Shop-talk at autox.team.net >> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation ?$12.96 >> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talkhttp://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf at groupwbench.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dirtbeard at gmail.com Sat Feb 1 12:35:53 2025 From: dirtbeard at gmail.com (Douglas Shook) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 11:35:53 -0800 Subject: [Shop-talk] Bad breaker? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: I could misunderstand the situation, but if B&T is in place, there would be no ground at the sink for the GFI to work unless you ran a separate ground to the cold water supply line or something similar assuming it is grounded. On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 10:56?AM Jimmie Mayfield < mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org> wrote: > The fly in the ointment is the k&t wiring. Will a GFI or AFI breaker work > reliably with k&t? > > J > > > On 2/1/25 11:36, Jim Franklin wrote: > > If you shut off the breaker, confirm there is no voltage on the output > side of it, and test for continuity between the breaker output and ground, > you should get a good idea if the breaker is actually doing its job, i.e. > there's short somewhere. If you don't see continuity, it's an unknown, in > which case I'd replace it with a GFI breaker (since you want to do that > anyway) and see what happens. > > jim > > On Feb 1, 2025, at 11:03 AM, Tim . > wrote: > > The breaker that controls my sink grinder's outlet seems to have failed. > It won't reset. > > It is simply a matter of replacing the breaker with a new one or might > there be another issue in the circuit? Near as I can tell that breaker only > has one outlet on it. (house was built in 1905 or so and still has active > knob and tube. ffs. And there are at least four breakers controlling our > tiny kitchen.) Also, the outlet is not GFI so I want to replace it but > can't really fit under the sink to do it. > > So, can I just replace the breaker or should I bite the bullet and call > and electrician? > > Thanks > tim > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf at groupwbench.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dirtbeard at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From peterwmurray at gmail.com Sat Feb 1 20:56:07 2025 From: peterwmurray at gmail.com (Peter Murray) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 22:56:07 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection In-Reply-To: <1UkEP5Ov13.CvVMa6acrk@johns-desktop> References: <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun.ref@johns-desktop> <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun@johns-desktop> <1UkEP5Ov13.CvVMa6acrk@johns-desktop> Message-ID: I'll add to the list of folks recommending the replacement of this laptop. Windows 7 is very susceptible to nefarious behaviors, with many never-to-be-patched issues. As a last resort with this machine, you could try a lightweight Linux distribution on that machine, but verify hardware support before you dive in with both feet. Check out https://swappa.com for good used options. Be certain to get a CPU that is supported by Windows 11. What do you need this machine to do? I am leery of the very inexpensive mini-PCs, as I'm not highly trusting of their manufacturers. I'd stick with a recent-generation Intel NUC if I were to go that route. -Peter On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 6:34?PM john niolon wrote: > well that is an unusual development... moved the laptop to sit right next > to the Orbi modem > five speedtest gave me 25-30 mb download and a little less upload with > latency around45 ms > > took it back to the shop sitting next to the satellite and got 50-60 mb > down and 40-=50 up with less latency > > so I'm assuming it's just my old slow laptop as ya'll say...just like me > old and slow > > My Orbi is a model RBR10 app version2.42.0.56 > > firmware version v2.7.3.22 > > I've started looking online for refurbed units... I've been using a > refurbed DELL Optiflex 990 for several years with no problems > they are getting cheaper every day... and I've got room for a small form > factor and monitor in the shop... might just go that way > > if ya'll have any suggestions on the refurbs... I'm all ears > > thanks for all the input > john > > *----- Original Message -----* > *From:* MIQ MILLMAN > *To:* john niolon > *Cc:* shop-talk > *Sent:* 1/2/2025 3:26:21 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection > ------------------------------ > As others have said, the old laptop is probably running within specs. > Wifi-BGN is going to peak throughput of about 38-40 mbps. > > The latest spec for Wifi (aka Wifi-6) is 802.11ax or just AX as a > designation to differentiate from the past "livingroom" standard of > 802.11ac. > > Both of these are overkill for what you want/need, ac peaks at 3.5Gbps, > and ax peaks at 9.6Gbps. > > The Toshiba you have also has a limit of 100 Mbps on the ethernet port > built in. So, even if you went with a cheap "hardwire solution" and tried > to connect a switch to the ethernet port on the Orbi, you would still be > limited to what the older laptop can manage. > > It's also possible that the version Orbi you have is only capable of > 802.11ac, you don't mention which version you have, but they still > sell/support the older versions, and the price is rather steep for the > latest versions > > Even if you were to replace/upgrade to a usb dongle wifi connection, it > would be limited to the speed of USB 2.0 and the older bus speeds in the > Toshiba. Also not sure that spending $35 on a wifi adapter is the best use > of funds.... (e.g. TP-Link AX1800 can plug into a standard USB a port, but > the laptop would not be able to support the speeds.) > > If you are on a budget, I would look at chromebooks as an option, > > here's a not terrible option from Lenovo for $250 from the 'zon: > https://a.co/d/am8aVRV > > All that said, most of the world runs just fine on 20-30 Mbps. > > --Miq > > > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2025 at 10:34?AM john niolon wrote: > >> I'm trying to get better internet connectivity in my detached >> garage/shop. First tried hardwired cat-5 but it was right at the limit for >> distance and slow and intermittent. Next went with power line adapters and >> while they were consistent in connection...speed was still slower than I >> wanted... >> >> This Christmas my s-I-l gave me a Orbi mesh system and we installed it >> with no problem putting one satellite box IN the garage and the master box >> sitting on top of my fiber modem hard wired to the modem. >> >> I have 300mb fiber from ATT and the speed is great (350-375 MB) to >> hardwired pc and around 140 mb on ipad in the house or in the garage. >> I have an older laptop I use in the shop (Toshiba Satellite L875D-st210) >> which is my primary shop machine. Best speed I can get is 30-40 mb. >> while the tablet sitting next to it is 140 mb+. >> >> I'm wondering if the old laptop has a wireless card that is old and >> slower? Everything I knew about computers is old and obsolete after 20 >> years out of the business. Can someone with current knowledge tell me if >> the problem is with an antiquated card in the laptop and is there a way to >> get better wireless speed on the laptop? or is that just the nature of >> wireless nowadays? BTW the laptop is running windows 7 with no options to >> run win 10. >> >> >> thanks >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Shop-talk at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.96 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/miq at bigllama.com >> >> _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/peterwmurray at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Sun Feb 2 04:58:54 2025 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 04:58:54 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection In-Reply-To: References: <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun.ref@johns-desktop> <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun@johns-desktop> <1UkEP5Ov13.CvVMa6acrk@johns-desktop> Message-ID: <77bbca93-a1d4-4e75-9210-cc6b55ddb993@bradakis.com> I had to reread tje beginning of this, as I first thought it was about a problem with the Team Net connect6ion. Glad it wasn't. You see, I was hospitalized on Monday, Dec. 23rd. Spent Christmas and New Year's yjere. On Thursday, Jan. 2nd, I lef the hospital and wemnt straigh to a rehab center. Stayed there for three weeks, getting released on Jan.24th. All this time I had no access to the Team Net, but it seems to have kept on cjugging along without my fussing and fidgeting. That's nice. And I am on the mend again, unhappy about NO MORE ALCOHOL, or my liver will slap me silly until I die. Not good. But otherwise, I am doing fine, recovering nicely. mjb. From eric at megageek.com Sun Feb 2 05:55:59 2025 From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 07:55:59 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection In-Reply-To: <77bbca93-a1d4-4e75-9210-cc6b55ddb993@bradakis.com> References: <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun.ref@johns-desktop> <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun@johns-desktop> <1UkEP5Ov13.CvVMa6acrk@johns-desktop> <77bbca93-a1d4-4e75-9210-cc6b55ddb993@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Mark, Sorry to hear about the health issues. I hope the mending goes well. FWIW, I'll try to remember you when I do drink and I'll have twice as much for you, brother! Moose From: Mark Bradakis To: shop-talk at autox.team.net Date: 02/02/2025 07:09 AM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection Sent by: "Shop-talk" I had to reread tje beginning of this, as I first thought it was about a problem with the Team Net connect6ion. Glad it wasn't. You see, I was hospitalized on Monday, Dec. 23rd. Spent Christmas and New Year's yjere. On Thursday, Jan. 2nd, I lef the hospital and wemnt straigh to a rehab center. Stayed there for three weeks, getting released on Jan.24th. All this time I had no access to the Team Net, but it seems to have kept on cjugging along without my fussing and fidgeting. That's nice. And I am on the mend again, unhappy about NO MORE ALCOHOL, or my liver will slap me silly until I die. Not good. But otherwise, I am doing fine, recovering nicely. mjb. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/eric at megageek.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave1massey at cs.com Sun Feb 2 06:10:18 2025 From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 13:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection In-Reply-To: <77bbca93-a1d4-4e75-9210-cc6b55ddb993@bradakis.com> References: <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun.ref@johns-desktop> <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun@johns-desktop> <1UkEP5Ov13.CvVMa6acrk@johns-desktop> <77bbca93-a1d4-4e75-9210-cc6b55ddb993@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <2143478745.7403583.1738501818622@mail.yahoo.com> Ugh.? That is some serious stuff.? With all the out-patient stuff they are doing now that used to be an overnight or three-day stay, it takes something pretty serious to justify a week's stay. It's good that you have a positive attitude as that is also important for a speedy recovery.? And the fact that we didn't miss you points to what an outstanding job you are doing the the lists.?? Dave On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 06:09:37 AM CST, Mark Bradakis wrote: I had to reread tje beginning of this, as I first thought it was about a problem with the Team Net connect6ion.? Glad it wasn't.? You see, I was hospitalized on Monday, Dec. 23rd.? Spent Christmas and New Year's yjere.? On Thursday, Jan. 2nd, I lef the hospital and wemnt straigh to a rehab center.? Stayed there for three weeks, getting released on Jan.24th.? All this time I had no access to the Team Net, but it seems to have kept on cjugging along without my fussing and fidgeting.? That's nice. And I am on the mend again, unhappy about NO MORE ALCOHOL, or my liver will slap me silly until I die.? Not good. But otherwise, I am doing fine, recovering nicely. mjb. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dirtbeard at gmail.com Sun Feb 2 06:49:15 2025 From: dirtbeard at gmail.com (Douglas Shook) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 05:49:15 -0800 Subject: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection In-Reply-To: <77bbca93-a1d4-4e75-9210-cc6b55ddb993@bradakis.com> References: <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun.ref@johns-desktop> <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun@johns-desktop> <1UkEP5Ov13.CvVMa6acrk@johns-desktop> <77bbca93-a1d4-4e75-9210-cc6b55ddb993@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Dear Mark, Glad to hear that you are on the mend.The liver is one organ that can rejuvenate itself, it is quite a wonderful thing. I paused drinking alcohol for a month for a New Year's resolution. For the first week or so it required a conscious effort as I needed to switch beverages (I switched to Diet Coke first and then to carbonated water), I had to occupy my time when I otherwise would be drinking,I had to change my daily routines/habits, etc., but after a month I just decided to go another month. That led to another month and it has now been 13 years since I stopped drinking. It was a very good lifestyle change for me. I dropped about 15 pounds, my blood pressure dropped to 117/60, I have better balance, am clearer minded, feel better in the mornings, and have saved a lot of money. ;-) After a month or so, you probably will not even notice eliminating alcohol from your life. Going to social events or parties or dinners where drinking is the norm, ordering a Diet Coke or a sparkling water just became normal. Early on, I actually kept track of the money I was saving by not drinking and that helped me to feel better about it as well.At some point I then went out and bought a new motorcycle with "the savings" as a reward. ;-) Wishing you the best of health for a very long time. Best, doug On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 4:11?AM Mark Bradakis wrote: > I had to reread tje beginning of this, as I first thought it was about a > problem with the Team Net connect6ion. Glad it wasn't. You see, I was > hospitalized on Monday, Dec. 23rd. Spent Christmas and New Year's > yjere. On Thursday, Jan. 2nd, I lef the hospital and wemnt straigh to a > rehab center. Stayed there for three weeks, getting released on > Jan.24th. All this time I had no access to the Team Net, but it seems > to have kept on cjugging along without my fussing and fidgeting. That's > nice. > > And I am on the mend again, unhappy about NO MORE ALCOHOL, or my liver > will slap me silly until I die. Not good. > > But otherwise, I am doing fine, recovering nicely. > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dirtbeard at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patintexas at icloud.com Sun Feb 2 07:16:21 2025 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 08:16:21 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection In-Reply-To: <77bbca93-a1d4-4e75-9210-cc6b55ddb993@bradakis.com> References: <77bbca93-a1d4-4e75-9210-cc6b55ddb993@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <74FAFCC9-90D4-42AD-B77D-ACE9FBD670AB@icloud.com> Glad you?re on the mend. Recovery can be slow but just keep plodding. Peace, Pat Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Feb 2, 2025, at 6:19?AM, Mark Bradakis wrote: ?I had to reread tje beginning of this, as I first thought it was about a problem with the Team Net connect6ion. Glad it wasn't. You see, I was hospitalized on Monday, Dec. 23rd. Spent Christmas and New Year's yjere. On Thursday, Jan. 2nd, I lef the hospital and wemnt straigh to a rehab center. Stayed there for three weeks, getting released on Jan.24th. All this time I had no access to the Team Net, but it seems to have kept on cjugging along without my fussing and fidgeting. That's nice. And I am on the mend again, unhappy about NO MORE ALCOHOL, or my liver will slap me silly until I die. Not good. But otherwise, I am doing fine, recovering nicely. mjb. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com From jamesf at groupwbench.org Sun Feb 2 08:01:55 2025 From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 10:01:55 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection In-Reply-To: <77bbca93-a1d4-4e75-9210-cc6b55ddb993@bradakis.com> References: <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun.ref@johns-desktop> <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun@johns-desktop> <1UkEP5Ov13.CvVMa6acrk@johns-desktop> <77bbca93-a1d4-4e75-9210-cc6b55ddb993@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <5BD12FA3-8FD8-4390-852F-6CFDF0CD3243@groupwbench.org> Whoa, that's a crappy way to spend the holidays but it sounds like the better of the two outcomes (it would have sucked if the list went down ;-D). Glad to hear you're on the mend and I hope the new change comes easy for you. Alcohol has always been a big part of my life, more true today than ever ("I'm a wine guy now Lois") and I've had to monitor it, for instance I don't drink alone, ever. But I fully expect the day to come when I'm in your shoes. jim > On Feb 2, 2025, at 6:58 AM, Mark Bradakis wrote: > > I had to reread tje beginning of this, as I first thought it was about a problem with the Team Net connect6ion. Glad it wasn't. You see, I was hospitalized on Monday, Dec. 23rd. Spent Christmas and New Year's yjere. On Thursday, Jan. 2nd, I lef the hospital and wemnt straigh to a rehab center. Stayed there for three weeks, getting released on Jan.24th. All this time I had no access to the Team Net, but it seems to have kept on cjugging along without my fussing and fidgeting. That's nice. > > And I am on the mend again, unhappy about NO MORE ALCOHOL, or my liver will slap me silly until I die. Not good. > > But otherwise, I am doing fine, recovering nicely. > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jamesf at groupwbench.org > From mark at bradakis.com Sun Feb 2 09:06:48 2025 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 09:06:48 -0700 Subject: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection In-Reply-To: References: <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun.ref@johns-desktop> <1UkEP1NYp6.9VTOHbwxRun@johns-desktop> <1UkEP5Ov13.CvVMa6acrk@johns-desktop> <77bbca93-a1d4-4e75-9210-cc6b55ddb993@bradakis.com> Message-ID: On 2/2/25 5:55 AM, eric at megageek.com wrote: > Mark, > I'll try to remember you when I do drink and I'll have twice as > much for you, brother! Reminds me of the ancient joke about the guy who shows up at the bar, orders three beers, drinks them up and leaves. Thw bartender tried to convince the guy they will be better if he ordered one at a time, tje second and third would be fresher. "Oh no", he says, "I need all three at once. You see, I have two brothers, we used to drink together. But they are off to the war, I'm the only one in town. So each week I drink with my brothers; so to speak." The bartender is moved by the man's story. And the man continues to come in, and order three beers. Then one day the man shuffles in, steps up to the bar and orders two beers. The bartender is taken aback by the change. He asks the guy if his brothers are okay, or did he lose one in the war? "oh no, my brothers are fine. Doctor told me I need to stop drinking. So no beer for me, but my brothers are doing fine. mjb. [I can hear the groans now...] From patintexas at icloud.com Sun Feb 2 12:33:04 2025 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 13:33:04 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] shop internet connection In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <626588C0-B658-43F9-B365-72E1EBCCBFA6@icloud.com> Sounds like you?re doing fine! Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Feb 2, 2025, at 10:23?AM, Mark Bradakis wrote: ?On 2/2/25 5:55 AM, eric at megageek.com wrote: > Mark, I'll try to remember you when I do drink and I'll have twice as > much for you, brother! Reminds me of the ancient joke about the guy who shows up at the bar, orders three beers, drinks them up and leaves. Thw bartender tried to convince the guy they will be better if he ordered one at a time, tje second and third would be fresher. "Oh no", he says, "I need all three at once. You see, I have two brothers, we used to drink together. But they are off to the war, I'm the only one in town. So each week I drink with my brothers; so to speak." The bartender is moved by the man's story. And the man continues to come in, and order three beers. Then one day the man shuffles in, steps up to the bar and orders two beers. The bartender is taken aback by the change. He asks the guy if his brothers are okay, or did he lose one in the war? "oh no, my brothers are fine. Doctor told me I need to stop drinking. So no beer for me, but my brothers are doing fine. mjb. [I can hear the groans now...] _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com From dmscheidt at gmail.com Sun Feb 2 20:07:14 2025 From: dmscheidt at gmail.com (David Scheidt) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2025 21:07:14 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] Bad breaker? 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Message-ID: On Sat, Feb 1, 2025 at 2:06?PM Douglas Shook wrote: > > I could misunderstand the situation, but if B&T is in place, there would be no ground at the sink for the GFI to work unless you ran a separate ground to the cold water supply line or something similar assuming it is grounded. GFCI protection doesn't depend on the existence of a ground. They work by comparing the current on the hot and neutral wires. If they're different, it means current is not flowing through the circuit, but is leaking somewhere, so it trips. The NEC has a provision that allows a GFCI to be used on circuits that were installed with ungrounded receptacles, and allows three prong receptacles to be installed downstream of it. (they're required to be labelled 'gfci protected' and 'no equipment ground', but never are.) It's worth pointing out that a plug in gfci tester -- like the one in most outlet testers -- won't work on a gfci if there's no ground, because the tester leaks some current to ground; without a ground, there's no leakage on that path. the test button works fine, as does the self-test features built into GFCI made in the last decade. -- David Scheidt dmscheidt at gmail.com From jniolon at att.net Mon Feb 24 14:18:44 2025 From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 15:18:44 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] sanding belt adhesive References: <1UkGYETLZ3.2aXAivPdSCB.ref@johns-desktop> Message-ID: <1UkGYETLZ3.2aXAivPdSCB@johns-desktop> I've got a small mini belt sander similar to this it uses a 3/8" x 13" belt.. I've got several boxes I bought years ago at a good price Problem is the adhesive strips that hold the belt together have lost their sticky Anyone got a vendor that sells the little adhesive strips for the belts..????? I've also got 4" x 20" with the same problem so bigger adhesive strips can be cut down jihn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mini.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 7883 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bk13 at earthlink.net Mon Feb 24 14:43:21 2025 From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 21:43:21 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] sanding belt adhesive Message-ID: <7d9874be-0e61-50fb-12a8-e1d71f1b28b2@earthlink.net> I split my last belt on a project and just used some duct tape to put it back together. Ran it wide and trimmed at the edge of the belt. Brian -----Original Message----- From: john niolon Sent: Feb 24, 2025 1:29 PM To: shop-talk Subject: [Shop-talk] sanding belt adhesive I've got a small mini belt sander similar to this it uses a 3/8" x 13" belt.. I've got several boxes I bought years ago at a good price Problem is the adhesive strips that hold the belt together have lost their sticky Anyone got a vendor that sells the little adhesive strips for the belts..????? I've also got 4" x 20" with the same problem so bigger adhesive strips can be cut down jihn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image.png Type: image/jpeg Size: 7883 bytes Desc: not available URL: From patintexas at icloud.com Mon Feb 24 15:20:16 2025 From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 16:20:16 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] sanding belt adhesive In-Reply-To: <1UkGYETLZ3.2aXAivPdSCB@johns-desktop> References: <1UkGYETLZ3.2aXAivPdSCB@johns-desktop> Message-ID: <1DCA95AF-AEF7-4078-8D53-1C3494CDD40D@icloud.com> Have you tried applying heat? I thought that adhesive was heat set. If that works, I doubt it will be as good as new belts. I?ve been using belts made by Klingspor for decades. They make mainly industrial abrasives but do make custom sized belts & disks too. Check them out @ www.woodworkingshop.com. They make abrasives for solid surface, wood & metal. Pat Horne We support Habitat for Humanity On Feb 24, 2025, at 3:41?PM, john niolon wrote: ? I've got a small mini belt sander similar to this it uses a 3/8" x 13" belt.. I've got several boxes I bought years ago at a good price Problem is the adhesive strips that hold the belt together have lost their sticky Anyone got a vendor that sells the little adhesive strips for the belts..????? I've also got 4" x 20" with the same problem so bigger adhesive strips can be cut down jihn _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/patintexas at icloud.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scott.hall.personal at gmail.com Fri Feb 28 08:10:22 2025 From: scott.hall.personal at gmail.com (Scott Hall) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 09:10:22 -0600 Subject: [Shop-talk] Impact seems...weak Message-ID: Fellas, I'm re-organizing the new garage. I haven't set up new big compressor yet, so I've been working with the contractor model I used around the house (135 psi, oil-lube contractor model--I've actually been pleasantly surprised). I found my old IR2131 in a box a while back--it's been in that box since maybe 1999. Before that it was used maybe ten times, total. I dumped some air tool oil in the intake and it spun. I was going to rotate my tires yesterday, and it wouldn't remove the lug nuts. Now to be fair, I couldn't get them off with a breaker bar, either. But the gun is supposed to be better than 600 lb. ft., IIRC. I should have spun those off no problem. I wouldn't have ever used it at more than 100 p.s.i. on the old compressor, so it shouldn't be lacking there. I thought maybe it needed a rebuild, but before I do it I thought I'd ask you guys. Do these things just 'age'? I remember pulling apart other impacts in the shop back then, but I don't remember their guts. Maybe a seal has dry-rotted? Or are tire shops just sticking wheels on tighter now? I couldn't budge that thing with an 18: breaker and everything I had. Scott -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eric at megageek.com Fri Feb 28 08:27:09 2025 From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 10:27:09 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Impact seems...weak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Scott, First, many of the impact 'innards' I've seen are ?nylon? plates that spin in a off center chamber. Nothing to dry rot. But the thing to ask is, when you first plug it into air, any leaking noise? Then, when you trigger it, do you hear any air rushing noise that you don't normally hear when using an impact? Also, does it feel like the gun is 'bucking' or just 'whimpering' when it is trying? Next, I've seen shops put tires one CRAZY tight! My guess is that "there is NO penalty if the nut is too tight, but if it is too loose and comes off, that could be a major lawsuit." So they "air" on the side of caution. (bad pun) Moose From: Scott Hall To: "shop-talk at autox.team.net" Date: 02/28/2025 10:16 AM Subject: [Shop-talk] Impact seems...weak Sent by: "Shop-talk" Fellas, I'm re-organizing the new garage. I haven't set up new big compressor yet, so I've been working with the contractor model I used around the house (135 psi, oil-lube contractor model--I've actually been pleasantly surprised). I found my old IR2131 in a box a while back--it's been in that box since maybe 1999. Before that it was used maybe ten times, total. I dumped some air tool oil in the intake and it spun. I was going to rotate my tires yesterday, and it wouldn't remove the lug nuts. Now to be fair, I couldn't get them off with a breaker bar, either. But the gun is supposed to be better than 600 lb. ft., IIRC. I should have spun those off no problem. I wouldn't have ever used it at more than 100 p.s.i. on the old compressor, so it shouldn't be lacking there. I thought maybe it needed a rebuild, but before I do it I thought I'd ask you guys. Do these things just 'age'? I remember pulling apart other impacts in the shop back then, but I don't remember their guts. Maybe a seal has dry-rotted? Or are tire shops just sticking wheels on tighter now? I couldn't budge that thing with an 18: breaker and everything I had. Scott_______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/eric at megageek.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dirtbeard at gmail.com Fri Feb 28 08:29:05 2025 From: dirtbeard at gmail.com (Douglas Shook) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 15:29:05 +0000 Subject: [Shop-talk] Impact seems...weak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 100 psi should be good, but you also will require sufficient cfm to apply the force necessary (e.g., 1/2" lines would be great, pressure regulator has sufficient cfm rating, etc.). Best, Doug mobile ________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of Scott Hall Sent: Friday, February 28, 2025 7:10:22 AM To: shop-talk at autox.team.net Subject: [Shop-talk] Impact seems...weak Fellas, I'm re-organizing the new garage. I haven't set up new big compressor yet, so I've been working with the contractor model I used around the house (135 psi, oil-lube contractor model--I've actually been pleasantly surprised). I found my old IR2131 in a box a while back--it's been in that box since maybe 1999. Before that it was used maybe ten times, total. I dumped some air tool oil in the intake and it spun. I was going to rotate my tires yesterday, and it wouldn't remove the lug nuts. Now to be fair, I couldn't get them off with a breaker bar, either. But the gun is supposed to be better than 600 lb. ft., IIRC. I should have spun those off no problem. I wouldn't have ever used it at more than 100 p.s.i. on the old compressor, so it shouldn't be lacking there. I thought maybe it needed a rebuild, but before I do it I thought I'd ask you guys. Do these things just 'age'? I remember pulling apart other impacts in the shop back then, but I don't remember their guts. Maybe a seal has dry-rotted? Or are tire shops just sticking wheels on tighter now? I couldn't budge that thing with an 18: breaker and everything I had. Scott -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From parkanzky at gmail.com Fri Feb 28 08:49:40 2025 From: parkanzky at gmail.com (Paul Parkanzky) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 10:49:40 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Impact seems...weak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes those >25 year old o-rings are probably shrunken and rock hard. They're going to be letting a lot of twist'em slip past. Unsolicited advice but if you dug it out planning to start using it frequently then put the money you'd have spent on a rebuilt kit toward a high-torque cordless impact instead. I have a big 220V compressor that has been relegated to blow gun and air hammer duty because I like the battery powered version of every other air tool I own better. -Paul On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 10:26?AM Scott Hall wrote: > Fellas, > > I'm re-organizing the new garage. I haven't set up new big compressor yet, > so I've been working with the contractor model I used around the house (135 > psi, oil-lube contractor model--I've actually been pleasantly surprised). > > I found my old IR2131 in a box a while back--it's been in that box since > maybe 1999. Before that it was used maybe ten times, total. > > I dumped some air tool oil in the intake and it spun. I was going to > rotate my tires yesterday, and it wouldn't remove the lug nuts. > > Now to be fair, I couldn't get them off with a breaker bar, either. But > the gun is supposed to be better than 600 lb. ft., IIRC. I should have spun > those off no problem. I wouldn't have ever used it at more than 100 p.s.i. > on the old compressor, so it shouldn't be lacking there. > > I thought maybe it needed a rebuild, but before I do it I thought I'd ask > you guys. Do these things just 'age'? I remember pulling apart other > impacts in the shop back then, but I don't remember their guts. Maybe a > seal has dry-rotted? > > Or are tire shops just sticking wheels on tighter now? I couldn't budge > that thing with an 18: breaker and everything I had. > > Scott > _______________________________________________ > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From james.f.juhas at snet.net Fri Feb 28 09:42:09 2025 From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 11:42:09 -0500 Subject: [Shop-talk] Impact seems...weak In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree on the advantages of the battery powered impact tools. I used to depend on a generator and a small compressor for wheel and tire work at the race track, but now exclusively use the battery ones for that purpose. I use them also in the shop most times, but I have a some air powered ones that have more capacity that I rely on for the stubborn fasteners. Because of the proliferation of the battery units, I have found deeply discounted air units at swap meets, some showing little wear and in perfect operating condition. $10 to $20 range; that's why I have 4 of them now. On 2/28/2025 10:49 AM, Paul Parkanzky wrote: > Yes those >25 year old o-rings are probably shrunken and rock hard. > They're going to be letting a lot of twist'em?slip past. > > Unsolicited advice but if you dug it out planning to start using it > frequently then put the money you'd have spent on a rebuilt kit toward > a high-torque cordless impact instead. I have a big 220V compressor > that has been relegated to blow gun and air hammer duty because I like > the battery powered version of every other air tool I own better. > > -Paul > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 10:26?AM Scott Hall > wrote: > > Fellas, > > I'm re-organizing the new garage. I haven't set up new big > compressor yet, so I've been working with the contractor model I > used around the house (135 psi, oil-lube contractor model--I've > actually been pleasantly surprised). > > I found my old IR2131 in a box a while back--it's been in that box > since maybe 1999. Before that it was used maybe ten times, total. > > I dumped some air tool oil in the intake and it spun. I was going > to rotate my tires yesterday, and it wouldn't remove the lug nuts. > > Now to be fair, I couldn't get them off with a breaker bar, > either. But the gun is supposed to be better than 600 lb. ft., > IIRC. I should have spun those off no problem. I wouldn't have > ever used it at more than 100 p.s.i. on the old compressor, so it > shouldn't be lacking there. > > I thought maybe it needed a rebuild, but before I do it I thought > I'd ask you guys. Do these things just 'age'? I remember pulling > apart other impacts in the shop back then, but I don't remember > their guts. 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I found my old IR2131 in a box a while back--it's been in that box since maybe 1999. Before that it was used maybe ten times, total. I dumped some air tool oil in the intake and it spun. I was going to rotate my tires yesterday, and it wouldn't remove the lug nuts. Now to be fair, I couldn't get them off with a breaker bar, either. But the gun is supposed to be better than 600 lb. ft., IIRC. I should have spun those off no problem. I wouldn't have ever used it at more than 100 p.s.i. on the old compressor, so it shouldn't be lacking there. I thought maybe it needed a rebuild, but before I do it I thought I'd ask you guys. Do these things just 'age'? I remember pulling apart other impacts in the shop back then, but I don't remember their guts. Maybe a seal has dry-rotted? Or are tire shops just sticking wheels on tighter now? I couldn't budge that thing with an 18: breaker and everything I had. Scott -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 9:40?AM wrote: hen using an impact? Also, does it feel like the gun is 'bucking' or just 'whimpering' when it is trying? > > Next, I've seen shops put tires one CRAZY tight! My guess is that "there is NO penalty if the nut is too tight, but if it is too loose and comes off, that could be a major lawsuit." So they "air" on the side of caution. (bad pun) > this is probably the thinking of gorillas that put lug nuts on with an impact wrench, but overtight lugs cause problems, too, and not just for the poor guy trying to change a wheel on the side of the road. Studs can break outright, but more often they yield, and then the wheel isn't clamped tightly to the hub, which can cause vibration, tire wear, wallowing of holes on the wheel, and worst case, the wheel falling off. lug nuts get tight from corrosion, too, though, so it's not always installation that's the problem. I've had horrible problems getting lug nuts off that I know were put on with proper torque, if they've had a couple years of a high salt diet. -- David Scheidt dmscheidt at gmail.com