From scott.hall.personal at gmail.com  Sat Mar  1 16:07:57 2025
From: scott.hall.personal at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 17:07:57 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
Message-ID: <CAK73_u5pG6mCwpngTZ0kzeL4vCBeWTEcznPFstKXverTdt-kEg@mail.gmail.com>

Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's running
off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the compressor tank.

Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one.

So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the same
fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery ecosystem
I want to use.

Twenty years ago I had a Milwaukee 18v impact that was no more impressive
than the 2131 and I didn't use it except at the track. I assume they've
improved since then.

Are they all about the same or is one clearly better than the others?

Thanks fellas.

Scott
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From scott.hall.personal at gmail.com  Sat Mar  1 16:13:46 2025
From: scott.hall.personal at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 17:13:46 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
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I forgot--I got a DeWalt cordless chainsaw for Christmas, so maybe I do
have a battery ecosystem already. Though I won't be upset if DeWalt 's
impact isn't the way to go. I haven't opened up the saw yet since it's been
snowy. I *think* it uses 20v batteries. I'll look to confirm when I get
home.

A battery chainsaw. I remember 8-track tapes. And we're buying my wife a
battery-powered car, with OEM 22-inch rims. The world has changed. I think
I'm old now.

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Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's running
off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the compressor tank.

Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one.

So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the same
fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery ecosystem
I want to use.

Twenty years ago I had a Milwaukee 18v impact that was no more impressive
than the 2131 and I didn't use it except at the track. I assume they've
improved since then.

Are they all about the same or is one clearly better than the others?

Thanks fellas.

Scott
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From dmscheidt at gmail.com  Sat Mar  1 16:53:50 2025
From: dmscheidt at gmail.com (David Scheidt)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 17:53:50 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
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> On Mar 1, 2025, at 17:19, Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's running off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the compressor tank. 
> 
> Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one. 
> 
> So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the same fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery ecosystem I want to use. 
> 

What?s your favorite color?  That brand will be fine.  Battery tools are all pretty good, as are batteries  Unless you have a specialized use, any main brand is great, so pick based on what ever makes sense to you. What is on sale, what your friends use (or don?t use), what your favorite store sells, it?s hard to go wrong.  


I have a Milwaukee, because I have a lot of other tools. It is at least as good as the 2135ti I had many years ago. (I don?t have a compressor good enough for an impact these days. ). 



From tjcora at icloud.com  Sat Mar  1 18:48:16 2025
From: tjcora at icloud.com (Thomas Coradeschi)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 01:48:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
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Get rid of that crappy coiled air hose and get something which will actually flow some air. On Mar 1, 2025, at 6:23 PM, Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal at gmail.com> wrote: Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's running off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the compressor tank. Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one. So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the same fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery ecosystem I want to use. Twenty years ago I had a Milwaukee 18v impact that was no more impressive than the 2131 and I didn't use it except at the track. I assume they've improved since then. Are they all about the same or is one clearly better than the others? Thanks fellas. Scott _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/tjcora at icloud.com
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sat Mar  1 19:42:30 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 18:42:30 -0800
Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
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I went with DeWalt. They have a 'Max' series, 20V with brushless motors 
(motors should last longer). That was their 'top-of-the-line' a while 
ago, they may have something better now. Makita is good too.

They're all made in one or two factories in China, but can be spec'd 
differently. You see DeWalt on a lot of the TV car shows, which could 
mean something or could just be good marketing.


On 3/1/2025 3:07 PM, Scott Hall wrote:
> Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's 
> running off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the 
> compressor tank.
>
> Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one.
>
> So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the 
> same fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery 
> ecosystem I want to use.
>
> Twenty years ago I had a Milwaukee 18v impact that was no more 
> impressive than the 2131 and I didn't use it except at the track. I 
> assume they've improved since then.
>
> Are they all about the same or is one clearly better than the others?
>
> Thanks fellas.
>
> Scott
>

From eric at megageek.com  Sun Mar  2 07:32:24 2025
From: eric at megageek.com (Moose)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 09:32:24 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
In-Reply-To: <CAK73_u5pG6mCwpngTZ0kzeL4vCBeWTEcznPFstKXverTdt-kEg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <OF0AF2BE3A.1E78A62F-ON85258C41.004F4595-85258C41.004FDF87@mail.megageek.com>

Scott, you are treading on 'religious ground' with this question.  8>)

Here is my take...

Dewalt has the most tools and is really solid.  (Except their chainsaw!)

Milwaukee is pretty much top of the heap, but expensive and don't have as 
many different tools.

All other brands are less costly and have a great selection, but seem to 
be more 'consumer' than 'professional.'

My way is to go Dewalt for most things and do Milwaukee for the stuff they 
are WAY better at.  (chainsaws, pole trimmers, etc.)

Also note, the land of the rising sun is now making tons of tools that are 
compatible with Dewalt and Milwaukee's batteries.  These tools are super 
cheap (both in quality and price) but really extend the offerings of both 
brands. Tons of options for lights, inverters, etc.

Amen.

Moose



From:   Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal at gmail.com>
To:     "shop-talk at autox.team.net" <Shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Date:   03/01/2025 18:13
Subject:        [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net>



Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's running 
off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the compressor tank. 

Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one. 

So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the same 
fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery ecosystem 
I want to use. 

Twenty years ago I had a Milwaukee 18v impact that was no more impressive 
than the 2131 and I didn't use it except at the track. I assume they've 
improved since then. 

Are they all about the same or is one clearly better than the others? 

Thanks fellas. 

Scott _______________________________________________

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From patintexas at icloud.com  Sun Mar  2 08:01:05 2025
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 09:01:05 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
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Moose, for decades I?ve worshiped @ the church of DeWalt. For the last couple decades I?ve purchased mostly refurbished tools from CPO Outlets. Everything has looked new, sometimes in factory packaging. About half new price. 

Can you provide any land of the rising sun brand names or where to find them please?

Here endith the reading. 

Peace, Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Mar 2, 2025, at 8:46?AM, Moose <eric at megageek.com> wrote:

?Scott, you are treading on 'religious ground' with this question.  8>)

Here is my take...

Dewalt has the most tools and is really solid.  (Except their chainsaw!)

Milwaukee is pretty much top of the heap, but expensive and don't have as many different tools.

All other brands are less costly and have a great selection, but seem to be more 'consumer' than 'professional.'

My way is to go Dewalt for most things and do Milwaukee for the stuff they are WAY better at.  (chainsaws, pole trimmers, etc.)

Also note, the land of the rising sun is now making tons of tools that are compatible with Dewalt and Milwaukee's batteries.  These tools are super cheap (both in quality and price) but really extend the offerings of both brands. Tons of options for lights, inverters, etc.

Amen.

Moose



From:        Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal at gmail.com>
To:        "shop-talk at autox.team.net" <Shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Date:        03/01/2025 18:13
Subject:        [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net>



Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's running off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the compressor tank. 

Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one. 

So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the same fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery ecosystem I want to use. 

Twenty years ago I had a Milwaukee 18v impact that was no more impressive than the 2131 and I didn't use it except at the track. I assume they've improved since then. 

Are they all about the same or is one clearly better than the others? 

Thanks fellas. 

Scott _______________________________________________

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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Mar  2 08:07:59 2025
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 07:07:59 -0800
Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
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Here's the skinny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0YlKm6C7fI&t=667s


On 3/2/2025 6:32 AM, Moose wrote:
> Scott, you are treading on 'religious ground' with this question. ?8>)
>
> Here is my take...
>
> Dewalt has the most tools and is really solid. ?(Except their chainsaw!)
>
> Milwaukee is pretty much top of the heap, but expensive and don't have 
> as many different tools.
>
> All other brands are less costly and have a great selection, but seem 
> to be more 'consumer' than 'professional.'
>
> My way is to go Dewalt for most things and do Milwaukee for the stuff 
> they are WAY better at. ?(chainsaws, pole trimmers, etc.)
>
> Also note, the land of the rising sun is now making tons of tools that 
> are compatible with Dewalt and Milwaukee's batteries. ?These tools are 
> super cheap (both in quality and price) but really extend the 
> offerings of both brands. Tons of options for lights, inverters, etc.
>
> Amen.
>
> Moose
>
>
>
> From: Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal at gmail.com>
> To: "shop-talk at autox.team.net" <Shop-talk at autox.team.net>
> Date: 03/01/2025 18:13
> Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
> Sent by: "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's 
> running off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the 
> compressor tank.
>
> Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one.
>
> So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the 
> same fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery 
> ecosystem I want to use.
>
> Twenty years ago I had a Milwaukee 18v impact that was no more 
> impressive than the 2131 and I didn't use it except at the track. I 
> assume they've improved since then.
>
> Are they all about the same or is one clearly better than the others?
>
> Thanks fellas.
>
> Scott _______________________________________________
>
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From eric at megageek.com  Sun Mar  2 08:20:31 2025
From: eric at megageek.com (Moose)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 10:20:31 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
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Pat, 

I didn't know about the CPO site.  Looks cool!  (I think I'm going to 
place an order there now.)

As for what I'm talking about, just search Amazon.

Here are some of the most recent things I got that are WAY better than I 
expected.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BC7B7ZBN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Great cheap flood light with USB ports.  Nice for camping or blackouts.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CQX1Q3G9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This inverter works great.  Lots of flexibility to it. 


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CXPJGZC6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

This soldering station is very convenient and heats up FAST!

There are lots of other things that seem to come and go (many of the items 
are no longer listed.)

This are cheap, but for what I need them for, I have never been 
disappointed.  The advantage is that I have LOTS of batteries for them and 
it is so great to not have to get other chargers and such.

Moose






From:   Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
To:     Moose <eric at megageek.com>
Cc:     Shop-talk at autox.team.net
Date:   03/02/2025 10:01
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact



Moose, for decades I?ve worshiped @ the church of DeWalt. For the last 
couple decades I?ve purchased mostly refurbished tools from CPO Outlets. 
Everything has looked new, sometimes in factory packaging. About half new 
price. 

Can you provide any land of the rising sun brand names or where to find 
them please?

Here endith the reading. 

Peace, Pat

Pat Horne 
We support Habitat for Humanity


On Mar 2, 2025, at 8:46?AM, Moose <eric at megageek.com> wrote:

?Scott, you are treading on 'religious ground' with this question.  8>) 

Here is my take... 

Dewalt has the most tools and is really solid.  (Except their chainsaw!) 

Milwaukee is pretty much top of the heap, but expensive and don't have as 
many different tools. 

All other brands are less costly and have a great selection, but seem to 
be more 'consumer' than 'professional.' 

My way is to go Dewalt for most things and do Milwaukee for the stuff they 
are WAY better at.  (chainsaws, pole trimmers, etc.) 

Also note, the land of the rising sun is now making tons of tools that are 
compatible with Dewalt and Milwaukee's batteries.  These tools are super 
cheap (both in quality and price) but really extend the offerings of both 
brands. Tons of options for lights, inverters, etc. 

Amen. 

Moose 



From:        Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal at gmail.com> 
To:        "shop-talk at autox.team.net" <Shop-talk at autox.team.net> 
Date:        03/01/2025 18:13 
Subject:        [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact 
Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net> 



Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's running 
off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the compressor tank. 

Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one. 

So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the same 
fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery ecosystem 
I want to use. 

Twenty years ago I had a Milwaukee 18v impact that was no more impressive 
than the 2131 and I didn't use it except at the track. I assume they've 
improved since then. 

Are they all about the same or is one clearly better than the others? 

Thanks fellas. 

Scott _______________________________________________

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From bk13 at earthlink.net  Sun Mar  2 11:08:27 2025
From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 10:08:27 -0800
Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
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An impact wrench wasn't something I was going to use regularly, so I 
didn't want to go battery.? Instead I went electric and got one of these 
several years ago.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-8-Amp-1-2-in-Corded-Impact-Wrench/3307992

Electrical cords are much easier than an air hose and it always works - 
no dead battery issues.

Brian


On 3/1/2025 3:07 PM, Scott Hall wrote:
> Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's 
> running off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the 
> compressor tank.
>
> Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one.
>
> So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the 
> same fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery 
> ecosystem I want to use.
>
> Twenty years ago I had a Milwaukee 18v impact that was no more 
> impressive than the 2131 and I didn't use it except at the track. I 
> assume they've improved since then.
>
> Are they all about the same or is one clearly better than the others?
>
> Thanks fellas.
>
> Scott
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Shop-talk at autox.team.net
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>


From jdinnis at gmail.com  Sun Mar  2 12:18:48 2025
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 13:18:48 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
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Just be careful with some of this off-brand stuff.  The Dewalt system
batteries do not have the battery management system in the battery, it is
in the tool.  Not all of the off brand stuff includes this.  You must make
sure to carefully monitor your batteries when using this stuff and DO NOT
leave a battery attached when not in use.  Learned that the hard way on one
of those USB / Light combos.  The USB charger stayed on even if the light
is off and will drain a battery flat eventually.  Lithium batteries do not
like this.

On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 9:47?AM Moose <eric at megageek.com> wrote:

> Pat,
>
> I didn't know about the CPO site.  Looks cool!  (I think I'm going to
> place an order there now.)
>
> As for what I'm talking about, just search Amazon.
>
> Here are some of the most recent things I got that are WAY better than I
> expected.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BC7B7ZBN/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> Great cheap flood light with USB ports.  Nice for camping or blackouts.
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CQX1Q3G9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> This inverter works great.  Lots of flexibility to it.
>
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CXPJGZC6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
>
> This soldering station is very convenient and heats up FAST!
>
> There are lots of other things that seem to come and go (many of the items
> are no longer listed.)
>
> This are cheap, but for what I need them for, I have never been
> disappointed.  The advantage is that I have LOTS of batteries for them and
> it is so great to not have to get other chargers and such.
>
> Moose
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:        Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com>
> To:        Moose <eric at megageek.com>
> Cc:        Shop-talk at autox.team.net
> Date:        03/02/2025 10:01
> Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Moose, for decades I?ve worshiped @ the church of DeWalt. For the last
> couple decades I?ve purchased mostly refurbished tools from CPO Outlets.
> Everything has looked new, sometimes in factory packaging. About half new
> price.
>
> Can you provide any land of the rising sun brand names or where to find
> them please?
>
> Here endith the reading.
>
> Peace, Pat
>
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2025, at 8:46?AM, Moose <eric at megageek.com> wrote:
>
> ?Scott, you are treading on 'religious ground' with this question.  8>)
>
> Here is my take...
>
> Dewalt has the most tools and is really solid.  (Except their chainsaw!)
>
> Milwaukee is pretty much top of the heap, but expensive and don't have as
> many different tools.
>
> All other brands are less costly and have a great selection, but seem to
> be more 'consumer' than 'professional.'
>
> My way is to go Dewalt for most things and do Milwaukee for the stuff they
> are WAY better at.  (chainsaws, pole trimmers, etc.)
>
> Also note, the land of the rising sun is now making tons of tools that are
> compatible with Dewalt and Milwaukee's batteries.  These tools are super
> cheap (both in quality and price) but really extend the offerings of both
> brands. Tons of options for lights, inverters, etc.
>
> Amen.
>
> Moose
>
>
>
> From:        Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal at gmail.com>
> To:        "shop-talk at autox.team.net" <Shop-talk at autox.team.net>
> Date:        03/01/2025 18:13
> Subject:        [Shop-talk] Battery impacts, was: weak impact
> Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net>
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Followed all the suggestions, still not budging the lug nuts. It's running
> off a regular yellow coiled air line, straight from the compressor tank.
>
> Everyone is so bullish on the battery impacts maybe I need one.
>
> So...which one? I didn't have any other battery tools (lost in the same
> fire that got my air tools), so I don't have an existing battery ecosystem
> I want to use.
>
> Twenty years ago I had a Milwaukee 18v impact that was no more impressive
> than the 2131 and I didn't use it except at the track. I assume they've
> improved since then.
>
> Are they all about the same or is one clearly better than the others?
>
> Thanks fellas.
>
> Scott _______________________________________________
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From scott.hall.personal at gmail.com  Sun Mar  2 16:33:18 2025
From: scott.hall.personal at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 17:33:18 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire storage
Message-ID: <CAK73_u5ifvtjo5chiYLjE4yrniB6YFNpPBfkEgi6-_VN+7Q_CQ@mail.gmail.com>

I forgot how much I enjoyed reading the list. So here's another one:

I used to have Griots Garage wheel storage 'poles'--they bolt to the
wall/stud and stick out perpendicularly and you hang your wheels on them.

I don't see them on the Griots website any more. It looks like I'm starting
from scratch on wheel storage.

I've got eight--no, nine--sets of wheels and tires in the garage right now.
Opinions on the best way to store them, and why you like them? Right now
they're stacked against the wall and on the shelves and I don't like that.

WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-900. It says it's rated for 1400
pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nuts don't spin, it just twists off the
lug stud itself. I guess either way the wheel's coming off.

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Mar  3 05:02:41 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 12:02:41 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire storage
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<<?WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-900. It says it's rated for 1400 pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nuts don't spin, it just twists off the lug stud itself. I guess either way the wheel's << coming off.
This comment reminded me of a comment from a friend of mine (in the Austin Healey club - obligatory LBC content) who said he twisted of a couple wheel studs on a 50's or 60' Chrysler product before he realized that the studs on the LH side of the car were LH thread.
Jus' sayin'.


Dave 


 

    On Sunday, March 2, 2025 at 05:39:20 PM CST, Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal at gmail.com> wrote:   

 I forgot how much I enjoyed reading the list. So here's another one:
I used to have Griots Garage wheel storage 'poles'--they bolt to the wall/stud and stick out perpendicularly and you hang your wheels on them.
I don't see them on the Griots website any more. It looks like I'm starting from scratch on wheel storage.?
I've got eight--no, nine--sets of wheels and tires in the garage right now. Opinions on the best way to store them, and why you like them? Right now they're stacked against the wall and on the shelves and I don't like that.
WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-900. It says it's rated for 1400 pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nuts don't spin, it just twists off the lug stud itself. I guess either way the wheel's coming off.
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From scott.hall.personal at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 08:29:23 2025
From: scott.hall.personal at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 09:29:23 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire storage
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Lately as I'm getting older and lug nuts don't just fly off like they used
to when I had more muscle mass, I do find myself at least once per tire
rotation going, "wait, I'm not tightening this, right?"

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 6:02?AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

> << WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-900. It says it's rated for
> 1400 pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nuts don't spin, it just twists
> off the lug stud itself. I guess either way the wheel's << coming off.
>
> This comment reminded me of a comment from a friend of mine (in the Austin
> Healey club - obligatory LBC content) who said he twisted of a couple wheel
> studs on a 50's or 60' Chrysler product before he realized that the studs
> on the LH side of the car were LH thread.
>
> Jus' sayin'.
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 2, 2025 at 05:39:20 PM CST, Scott Hall <
> scott.hall.personal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I forgot how much I enjoyed reading the list. So here's another one:
>
> I used to have Griots Garage wheel storage 'poles'--they bolt to the
> wall/stud and stick out perpendicularly and you hang your wheels on them.
>
> I don't see them on the Griots website any more. It looks like I'm
> starting from scratch on wheel storage.
>
> I've got eight--no, nine--sets of wheels and tires in the garage right
> now. Opinions on the best way to store them, and why you like them? Right
> now they're stacked against the wall and on the shelves and I don't like
> that.
>
> WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-900. It says it's rated for 1400
> pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nuts don't spin, it just twists off the
> lug stud itself. I guess either way the wheel's coming off.
>
> Scott
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From miq at bigllama.com  Mon Mar  3 09:39:26 2025
From: miq at bigllama.com (MIQ MILLMAN)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 08:39:26 -0800
Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire storage
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I used to have a large set of home made L brackets, approximately 2 feet
tall and long, that I lag-bolted to the studs.  These were across the
nearly top of a wall, spaced every other stud (32" apart) and then had an
aluminum angle bar 3"x3" laid across the lot of them:

Side view
W|
A|
L|\
L|_\______^_

Tire/wheel combos would be strapped in pairs, and then held up with the
tires resting against the wall on one side, and the angle bar on the other.
like this:

|O,

This worked great for the light weight race car/sports car sets--which
weighed less than 45 lbs per wheel/tire.  It wasn't easy to get the heavier
sets down by myself (the rack base was set at 6 1/2 feet), but do-able in
singles (I used cheap HF ratchet straps).

However, when I tried to put up a set of off-road tires/wheels from my
G-wagon that weigh 112 lbs each, it was too much (both to lift up over my
head easily, and for the lag-bolts to support.

In my next shop, I'm going to have a set of big-box warehouse style shelves
(3 feet deep, 8 feet long,  set up perpendicular from one wall (so I can
get access to both sides, kind of like a data center rack setup), and then
I can just use a lightweight aluminum pole in the center of the wheels and
have that pole across a pair of shelves against the wall.

I guess the real question is how often do you need to swap out sets of
tires/wheels?  if it's just seasonally for winter something out of the way
is fine, but if you're vintage racing or (god forbid) drifting and go
through multiple sets of tires a month, just stacking them like a giant
tower of hanoi in one area is probably easiest.

If you really are going through 8 sets regularly, maybe set up a tire/wheel
room where you can even mount and balance them yourself.  Then you can
store the tires separately from the wheels, putting wheels horizontally on
shelves and good tires on the brackets I describe.

  --Miq

On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 3:40?PM Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I forgot how much I enjoyed reading the list. So here's another one:
>
> I used to have Griots Garage wheel storage 'poles'--they bolt to the
> wall/stud and stick out perpendicularly and you hang your wheels on them.
>
> I don't see them on the Griots website any more. It looks like I'm
> starting from scratch on wheel storage.
>
> I've got eight--no, nine--sets of wheels and tires in the garage right
> now. Opinions on the best way to store them, and why you like them? Right
> now they're stacked against the wall and on the shelves and I don't like
> that.
>
> WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-900. It says it's rated for 1400
> pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nuts don't spin, it just twists off the
> lug stud itself. I guess either way the wheel's coming off.
>
> Scott
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From scott.hall.personal at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 09:49:40 2025
From: scott.hall.personal at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 10:49:40 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire storage
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Miq,

I was thinking something like your original setup, but I had weight
concerns, too. I'm confident I could build the 'shelf' strong enough, but
getting them up and down would be a pain in the butt. I don't want to be at
an orthopedist in two years explaining how I hurt my back hoisting wheels
over my head. They don't rotate that often, but I'd like them off the
floor. The Griots ones were nice because you could mount them at whatever
height you wanted.

I guess I could find someone to weld me up some replacements, but that
seems like it would be easier for me to just buy a new welder and make them
myself, and a new garage oven and powder coating gear.

Scott

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 10:39?AM MIQ MILLMAN <miq at bigllama.com> wrote:

> I used to have a large set of home made L brackets, approximately 2 feet
> tall and long, that I lag-bolted to the studs.  These were across the
> nearly top of a wall, spaced every other stud (32" apart) and then had an
> aluminum angle bar 3"x3" laid across the lot of them:
>
> Side view
> W|
> A|
> L|\
> L|_\______^_
>
> Tire/wheel combos would be strapped in pairs, and then held up with the
> tires resting against the wall on one side, and the angle bar on the other.
> like this:
>
> |O,
>
> This worked great for the light weight race car/sports car sets--which
> weighed less than 45 lbs per wheel/tire.  It wasn't easy to get the heavier
> sets down by myself (the rack base was set at 6 1/2 feet), but do-able in
> singles (I used cheap HF ratchet straps).
>
> However, when I tried to put up a set of off-road tires/wheels from my
> G-wagon that weigh 112 lbs each, it was too much (both to lift up over my
> head easily, and for the lag-bolts to support.
>
> In my next shop, I'm going to have a set of big-box warehouse style
> shelves (3 feet deep, 8 feet long,  set up perpendicular from one wall (so
> I can get access to both sides, kind of like a data center rack setup), and
> then I can just use a lightweight aluminum pole in the center of the wheels
> and have that pole across a pair of shelves against the wall.
>
> I guess the real question is how often do you need to swap out sets of
> tires/wheels?  if it's just seasonally for winter something out of the way
> is fine, but if you're vintage racing or (god forbid) drifting and go
> through multiple sets of tires a month, just stacking them like a giant
> tower of hanoi in one area is probably easiest.
>
> If you really are going through 8 sets regularly, maybe set up a
> tire/wheel room where you can even mount and balance them yourself.  Then
> you can store the tires separately from the wheels, putting wheels
> horizontally on shelves and good tires on the brackets I describe.
>
>   --Miq
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 3:40?PM Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I forgot how much I enjoyed reading the list. So here's another one:
>>
>> I used to have Griots Garage wheel storage 'poles'--they bolt to the
>> wall/stud and stick out perpendicularly and you hang your wheels on them.
>>
>> I don't see them on the Griots website any more. It looks like I'm
>> starting from scratch on wheel storage.
>>
>> I've got eight--no, nine--sets of wheels and tires in the garage right
>> now. Opinions on the best way to store them, and why you like them? Right
>> now they're stacked against the wall and on the shelves and I don't like
>> that.
>>
>> WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-900. It says it's rated for 1400
>> pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nuts don't spin, it just twists off the
>> lug stud itself. I guess either way the wheel's coming off.
>>
>> Scott
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Shop-talk at autox.team.net
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From eric at megageek.com  Mon Mar  3 10:32:08 2025
From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 12:32:08 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire storage
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Just an idea, I don't do this, but it's an idea.

What if you mounted a winch (electric) from the ceiling.  Then you bring 
the hook it to the ground, drop it through the center of the tires, put a 
bar on the bottom, and hoist them all up?  If you have a high enough 
ceiling (12') and you had 4 X 12" wide tires, they would be up and out of 
the way.  It would be effortless to put them up and down, and it save 
VALUABLE wall space!

Just an idea.

Moose
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From scott.hall.personal at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 11:08:09 2025
From: scott.hall.personal at gmail.com (Scott Hall)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 12:08:09 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire storage
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Moose,

I've seen plans and was thinking about building a lift/hoist/elevator into
the attic space above the garage. It seems like most of them cut a larger
hole in the ceiling then use cable hoists to power the hatch as an
elevator. I should do that anyway for just regular storage. I'm wondering
how the tires and TPMS sensors would enjoy a summer up there, though.

Scott

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 11:32?AM <eric at megageek.com> wrote:

> Just an idea, I don't do this, but it's an idea.
>
> What if you mounted a winch (electric) from the ceiling.  Then you bring
> the hook it to the ground, drop it through the center of the tires, put a
> bar on the bottom, and hoist them all up?  If you have a high enough
> ceiling (12') and you had 4 X 12" wide tires, they would be up and out of
> the way.  It would be effortless to put them up and down, and it save
> VALUABLE wall space!
>
> Just an idea.
>
> Moose
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From jniolon at att.net  Mon Mar  3 14:11:51 2025
From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 15:11:51 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] air hose fittings
References: <1UkHwSoNzU.2KSmO2Yfqg8.ref@johns-desktop>
Message-ID: <1UkHwSoNzU.2KSmO2Yfqg8@johns-desktop>

I'm tired of using H.F. junk air hose fittings...  they all leak and are a pain to couple and uncouple. You have to pull the collar back and push in the male connector then reverse it to remove
 
I want the push in (without the collar) easy to release 3/8" flow ? don't 
care about the thread size I can adapt.  My old hands and grip are as weak
as my bank balance.,
 
What is affordable and usable..   I've got about 10 air tools (male) and three hoses (female) and the money will add up quickly   
 
thanks
john
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From james.f.juhas at snet.net  Mon Mar  3 14:29:56 2025
From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 16:29:56 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire storage
In-Reply-To: <CAK73_u5oPDOB7vdEOAmfb0cN5Larf20390pnLzQ6P7KUrf3pkA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK73_u5ifvtjo5chiYLjE4yrniB6YFNpPBfkEgi6-_VN+7Q_CQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I've had some recent experience learning about TPMS sensors, how to 
activate and program them as replacements. I learned that they don't do 
anything unless they are in motion, so battery life, the only thing I 
would expect to be a factor in storage, won't have a drain if they are 
sitting still. The life of the tires, though, is something always under 
dispute and subject to lots of interpretation.

On 3/3/2025 1:08 PM, Scott Hall wrote:
> Moose,
>
> I've seen plans and was thinking about building a lift/hoist/elevator 
> into the attic space above the garage. It seems like most of them cut 
> a larger hole in the ceiling then use cable hoists to power the hatch 
> as an elevator. I should do that anyway?for just regular storage. I'm 
> wondering how the tires and TPMS sensors would enjoy a summer up 
> there, though.
>
> Scott
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 11:32?AM <eric at megageek.com> wrote:
>
>     Just an idea, I don't do this, but it's an idea.
>
>     What if you mounted a winch (electric) from the ceiling.? Then you
>     bring the hook it to the ground, drop it through the center of the
>     tires, put a bar on the bottom, and hoist them all up?? If you
>     have a high enough ceiling (12') and you had 4 X 12" wide tires,
>     they would be up and out of the way.? It would be effortless to
>     put them up and down, and it save VALUABLE wall space!
>
>     Just an idea.
>
>     Moose
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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From dirtbeard at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 17:47:19 2025
From: dirtbeard at gmail.com (Douglas Shook)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 00:47:19 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] air hose fittings
In-Reply-To: <1UkHwSoNzU.2KSmO2Yfqg8@johns-desktop>
References: <1UkHwSoNzU.2KSmO2Yfqg8.ref@johns-desktop>
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Message-ID: <IA1PR10MB72157BDFAF71B3FEEC6BF02BABC82@IA1PR10MB7215.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

I always get mine from McMaster
https://www.mcmaster.com/products/air-line-couplings/


Best,

Doug
mobile
________________________________
From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of john niolon <jniolon at att.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2025 2:41:51 AM
To: shop-talk <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Shop-talk] air hose fittings

I'm tired of using H.F. junk air hose fittings...  they all leak and are a pain to couple and uncouple. You have to pull the collar back and push in the male connector then reverse it to remove

I want the push in (without the collar) easy to release 3/8" flow ? don't care about the thread size I can adapt.  My old hands and grip are as weak
as my bank balance.,

What is affordable and usable..   I've got about 10 air tools (male) and three hoses (female) and the money will add up quickly

thanks
john
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 18:44:49 2025
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 20:44:49 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] air hose fittings
In-Reply-To: <1UkHwSoNzU.2KSmO2Yfqg8@johns-desktop>
References: <1UkHwSoNzU.2KSmO2Yfqg8.ref@johns-desktop>
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Message-ID: <CAO8Q7CPf7QuKO3cT95B1tvwnf6ehR=txbJEeJp9_u_aCr=cm+Q@mail.gmail.com>

I bought a bunch of Milton brand couplers, and I'm very happy to change all
of my cheap crap for them.  I got started when these were on sale for about
$7 each:

https://www.acmetools.com/milton-99705-1-4in-fnpt-m-style-safety-coupler-s-99705/030937312150.html

They aren't that cheap now but you can find them for $10 or $11.  They are
a safety coupler.  Push in to connect; one press of the red button loosens
it and bleeds the pressure, and the second press releases the coupling.  At
the time, I was getting paid to be the safety officer, so I was trained to
think about the worst that could happen.

The Milton web site often runs sales, or you can watch other places for
deals.

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025, 16:28 john niolon <jniolon at att.net> wrote:

> I'm tired of using H.F. junk air hose fittings...  they all leak and are a
> pain to couple and uncouple. You have to pull the collar back and push in
> the male connector then reverse it to remove
>
> I want the push in (without the collar) easy to release 3/8" flow ? don't
> care about the thread size I can adapt.  My old hands and grip are as weak
> as my bank balance.,
>
> What is affordable and usable..   I've got about 10 air tools (male) and
> three hoses (female) and the money will add up quickly
>
> thanks
> john
> _______________________________________________
>
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From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Mar  3 18:52:50 2025
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 18:52:50 -0700
Subject: [Shop-talk] air hose fittings
In-Reply-To: <1UkHwSoNzU.2KSmO2Yfqg8@johns-desktop>
References: <1UkHwSoNzU.2KSmO2Yfqg8.ref@johns-desktop>
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Message-ID: <d8b4eca9-8aa7-451e-b34d-44a84ddc4e9f@bradakis.com>

Years ago I was at some garden shop and I saw some quicj release hose 
fittings.  I thought cool, just like my air hose fittings.  I bought 
some, put them on the garden hose and various sprinklers and such. 
First day I had them, I figured they were just like my air hose 
fittings.  I went to uncouple a sprayer from the main hose, which still 
had full pressure on it.

A mistake you only make once.

mjb.


From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  3 23:07:59 2025
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:07:59 +0900
Subject: [Shop-talk] Tire storage
In-Reply-To: <CAK73_u5+NGzYAW_9qQTAGgESfFFY47zM9JsFKK7sOMCPaO5OYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK73_u5ifvtjo5chiYLjE4yrniB6YFNpPBfkEgi6-_VN+7Q_CQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAASF5jHX6KSjbuTbjK+V4r78Gn1AUz6GXWgf98M_xn1xdrkdTw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CADkpZwE-AuKuzo2a7zQk6bX3HdrouqFBBLx8HmCF7e+LGpX5hA@mail.gmail.com>

Amazon and Uline sell tire racks, e.g. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Tire+rack


________________
Sent from my phone
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Tue, Mar 4, 2025, 2:11?AM Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Miq,
>
> I was thinking something like your original setup, but I had weight
> concerns, too. I'm confident I could build the 'shelf' strong enough, but
> getting them up and down would be a pain in the butt. I don't want to be at
> an orthopedist in two years explaining how I hurt my back hoisting wheels
> over my head. They don't rotate that often, but I'd like them off the
> floor. The Griots ones were nice because you could mount them at whatever
> height you wanted.
>
> I guess I could find someone to weld me up some replacements, but that
> seems like it would be easier for me to just buy a new welder and make them
> myself, and a new garage oven and powder coating gear.
>
> Scott
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 10:39?AM MIQ MILLMAN <miq at bigllama.com> wrote:
>
>> I used to have a large set of home made L brackets, approximately 2 feet
>> tall and long, that I lag-bolted to the studs.  These were across the
>> nearly top of a wall, spaced every other stud (32" apart) and then had an
>> aluminum angle bar 3"x3" laid across the lot of them:
>>
>> Side view
>> W|
>> A|
>> L|\
>> L|_\______^_
>>
>> Tire/wheel combos would be strapped in pairs, and then held up with the
>> tires resting against the wall on one side, and the angle bar on the other.
>> like this:
>>
>> |O,
>>
>> This worked great for the light weight race car/sports car sets--which
>> weighed less than 45 lbs per wheel/tire.  It wasn't easy to get the heavier
>> sets down by myself (the rack base was set at 6 1/2 feet), but do-able in
>> singles (I used cheap HF ratchet straps).
>>
>> However, when I tried to put up a set of off-road tires/wheels from my
>> G-wagon that weigh 112 lbs each, it was too much (both to lift up over my
>> head easily, and for the lag-bolts to support.
>>
>> In my next shop, I'm going to have a set of big-box warehouse style
>> shelves (3 feet deep, 8 feet long,  set up perpendicular from one wall (so
>> I can get access to both sides, kind of like a data center rack setup), and
>> then I can just use a lightweight aluminum pole in the center of the wheels
>> and have that pole across a pair of shelves against the wall.
>>
>> I guess the real question is how often do you need to swap out sets of
>> tires/wheels?  if it's just seasonally for winter something out of the way
>> is fine, but if you're vintage racing or (god forbid) drifting and go
>> through multiple sets of tires a month, just stacking them like a giant
>> tower of hanoi in one area is probably easiest.
>>
>> If you really are going through 8 sets regularly, maybe set up a
>> tire/wheel room where you can even mount and balance them yourself.  Then
>> you can store the tires separately from the wheels, putting wheels
>> horizontally on shelves and good tires on the brackets I describe.
>>
>>   --Miq
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 3:40?PM Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I forgot how much I enjoyed reading the list. So here's another one:
>>>
>>> I used to have Griots Garage wheel storage 'poles'--they bolt to the
>>> wall/stud and stick out perpendicularly and you hang your wheels on them.
>>>
>>> I don't see them on the Griots website any more. It looks like I'm
>>> starting from scratch on wheel storage.
>>>
>>> I've got eight--no, nine--sets of wheels and tires in the garage right
>>> now. Opinions on the best way to store them, and why you like them? Right
>>> now they're stacked against the wall and on the shelves and I don't like
>>> that.
>>>
>>> WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-900. It says it's rated for 1400
>>> pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nuts don't spin, it just twists off the
>>> lug stud itself. I guess either way the wheel's coming off.
>>>
>>> Scott
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Tue Mar  4 06:25:47 2025
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 13:25:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Shop-talk] air hose fittings
In-Reply-To: <d8b4eca9-8aa7-451e-b34d-44a84ddc4e9f@bradakis.com>
References: <1UkHwSoNzU.2KSmO2Yfqg8.ref@johns-desktop>
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Message-ID: <1857496393.7059076.1741094747256@mail.yahoo.com>


There are garden hose couplers with an auto-cut-off feature but it is fairly rare and far from universal.
One advantage to these is they twist so you can aim the spray nozzle without twisting the hose and possibly unscrewing the connection.
Dave 


 

    On Monday, March 3, 2025 at 08:09:18 PM CST, Mark Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> wrote:   

 Years ago I was at some garden shop and I saw some quicj release hose 
fittings.? I thought cool, just like my air hose fittings.? I bought 
some, put them on the garden hose and various sprinklers and such. 
First day I had them, I figured they were just like my air hose 
fittings.? I went to uncouple a sprayer from the main hose, which still 
had full pressure on it.

A mistake you only make once.

mjb.

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From eric at megageek.com  Tue Mar  4 06:29:30 2025
From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 08:29:30 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] air hose fittings
In-Reply-To: <1UkHwSoNzU.2KSmO2Yfqg8@johns-desktop>
References: <1UkHwSoNzU.2KSmO2Yfqg8.ref@johns-desktop>
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John,

Here is what I use...
https://www.harryepstein.com/products/milton-s-99705-safety-coupler

They are great (and this link is to a great company.)

All you do is press the button twice.  The first press releases the air 
pressure on the connection.  The second releases the tool, with no effort.

I've been using them for years now.  NOTE, they will start to leak a 
little after a while.  Just a few drops of lube, and work a tool in and 
out a few times it will stop leaking.

SIDE NOTE- if you do order from this site, in the notes ask Emmet to paint 
a picture on your box.  You can ask for anything.  The paintings are 
adorable!  I've framed everyone I have gotten so far.  Here are some of 
them...
Moose

https://www.megageek.com/photo/photoa~1.nsf/a7ffeab012bbfb5b85256eb1007ca7f6/4a6004f30a113816852583fa0040eaab?OpenDocument

https://www.megageek.com/photo/photoa~1.nsf/a7ffeab012bbfb5b85256eb1007ca7f6/5a228fab11dfc14b852584090000b430?OpenDocument

https://www.megageek.com/photo/photoa~1.nsf/a7ffeab012bbfb5b85256eb1007ca7f6/7a51a4095e7895b28525840200422d60?OpenDocument




From:   "john niolon" <jniolon at att.net>
To:     "shop-talk" <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Date:   03/03/2025 04:23 PM
Subject:        [Shop-talk] air hose fittings
Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net>



I'm tired of using H.F. junk air hose fittings...  they all leak and are a 
pain to couple and uncouple. You have to pull the collar back and push in 
the male connector then reverse it to remove
 
I want the push in (without the collar) easy to release 3/8" flow ? don't 
care about the thread size I can adapt.  My old hands and grip are as weak
as my bank balance.,
 
What is affordable and usable..   I've got about 10 air tools (male) and 
three hoses (female) and the money will add up quickly 
 
thanks
john_______________________________________________

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From bk13 at earthlink.net  Tue Mar  4 09:54:43 2025
From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp)
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 16:54:43 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] air hose fittings - garden hose couplers
Message-ID: <e38401ac-3d03-f681-a12e-e73c2a445daa@earthlink.net>

+1 on the ability to twist the nozzle without twisting the garden hose.  I also insert a shutoff similar to the link below between the end of the hose and the quick disconnect.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Orbit-Heavy-Duty-Brass-Hose-End-Shut-Off-Coupling-Hose-Connector-27933/100659291

Brian
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From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Sent: Mar 4, 2025 5:28 AM
To: shop-talk at autox.team.net <shop-talk at autox.team.net>, Mark Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] air hose fittings

 
There are garden hose couplers with an auto-cut-off feature but it is fairly rare and far from universal.
 
One advantage to these is they twist so you can aim the spray nozzle without twisting the hose and possibly unscrewing the connection.
 
Dave 

 




 
 

On Monday, March 3, 2025 at 08:09:18 PM CST, Mark Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> wrote:

 
 
Years ago I was at some garden shop and I saw some quicj release hose fittings.  I thought cool, just like my air hose fittings.  I bought some, put them on the garden hose and various sprinklers and such. First day I had them, I figured they were just like my air hose fittings.  I went to uncouple a sprayer from the main hose, which still had full pressure on it.A mistake you only make once.mjb._______________________________________________Shop-talk at autox.team.net (mailto:Shop-talk at autox.team.net)Donate: Suggested annual donation  $12.96Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk (http://www.team.net/donate.html) Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/dave1massey at cs.com (http://autox.team.net/archive)







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From JIBrooks at live.com  Sat Mar  8 16:33:07 2025
From: JIBrooks at live.com (Jack Brooks)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:33:07 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving
Message-ID: <CH3PR11MB8093B35323C2D181A3F6935CA8D42@CH3PR11MB8093.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

Team,

I've moved and gave up a large, dry, lighted, 6 foot high crawlspace, with a concrete floor, for a large, but crowded garage.  I have car parts and other heavy items to store.  I've been looking at Home Depot's selection of higher capacity metal shelving and am a little shell shocked at prices, but not quite motivated to weld up my own shelf setup.

Since most vendors will likely ship, I'd like to find something someone is familiar with, rather than risk having to ship it back if it's unacceptable. Has anyone found other strong shelves they were able to buy at a good price. I like the HD unit linked below, but I'm not excited about almost a grand after tax. (two units at $449.99 each). These are 7.5 high x 7.5 wide.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gladiator-4-Tier-Heavy-Duty-Welded-Steel-Garage-Storage-Shelving-Unit-90-in-W-x-90-in-H-x-24-in-D-GARA904XIG/311632552

What have you seen that you liked?

Jack
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From ejrussell61 at gmail.com  Sat Mar  8 16:48:21 2025
From: ejrussell61 at gmail.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:48:21 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving
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Check out the offerings at Northern Tool. I have a couple of different
versions. The wire rack type are strong but allow small items to fall
through. The solid shelf type will benefit from having the (particle
board?) shelving reinforced.

Eric Russell
Mebane, NC

On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 6:36?PM Jack Brooks <JIBrooks at live.com> wrote:

> Team,
>
>
>
> I?ve moved and gave up a large, dry, lighted, 6 foot high crawlspace, with
> a concrete floor, for a large, but crowded garage.  I have car parts and
> other heavy items to store.  I?ve been looking at Home Depot?s selection of
> higher capacity metal shelving and am a little shell shocked at prices, but
> not quite motivated to weld up my own shelf setup.
>
> Since most vendors will likely ship, I?d like to find something someone is
> familiar with, rather than risk having to ship it back if it?s
> unacceptable. Has anyone found other strong shelves they were able to buy
> at a good price. I like the HD unit linked below, but I?m not excited about
> almost a grand after tax. (two units at $449.99 each). These are 7.5 high x
> 7.5 wide.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gladiator-4-Tier-Heavy-Duty-Welded-Steel-Garage-Storage-Shelving-Unit-90-in-W-x-90-in-H-x-24-in-D-GARA904XIG/311632552
>
> What have you seen that you liked?
>
> Jack
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From JIBrooks at live.com  Sat Mar  8 16:56:17 2025
From: JIBrooks at live.com (Jack Brooks)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:56:17 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving
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 <CAP7dBXDBTirgeq4EqO76YU23s8bRgMBXmZBOxh1fWC1RLkKbKQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Eric! They do have a nice selection.

Jack

From: Eric Russell <ejrussell61 at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2025 4:48 PM
To: Jack Brooks <JIBrooks at live.com>
Cc: shop-talk at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving

Check out the offerings at Northern Tool. I have a couple of different versions. The wire rack type are strong but allow small items to fall through. The solid shelf type will benefit from having the (particle board?) shelving reinforced.

Eric Russell
Mebane, NC

On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 6:36?PM Jack Brooks <JIBrooks at live.com<mailto:JIBrooks at live.com>> wrote:
Team,

I?ve moved and gave up a large, dry, lighted, 6 foot high crawlspace, with a concrete floor, for a large, but crowded garage.  I have car parts and other heavy items to store.  I?ve been looking at Home Depot?s selection of higher capacity metal shelving and am a little shell shocked at prices, but not quite motivated to weld up my own shelf setup.

Since most vendors will likely ship, I?d like to find something someone is familiar with, rather than risk having to ship it back if it?s unacceptable. Has anyone found other strong shelves they were able to buy at a good price. I like the HD unit linked below, but I?m not excited about almost a grand after tax. (two units at $449.99 each). These are 7.5 high x 7.5 wide.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gladiator-4-Tier-Heavy-Duty-Welded-Steel-Garage-Storage-Shelving-Unit-90-in-W-x-90-in-H-x-24-in-D-GARA904XIG/311632552
What have you seen that you liked?

Jack
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From dirtbeard at gmail.com  Sat Mar  8 17:24:46 2025
From: dirtbeard at gmail.com (Douglas Shook)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 00:24:46 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving
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 <CAP7dBXDBTirgeq4EqO76YU23s8bRgMBXmZBOxh1fWC1RLkKbKQ@mail.gmail.com>
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McMaster had some nice shelving options
https://www.mcmaster.com/product/4952T21

Best,

Doug
mobile
________________________________
From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Jack Brooks <JIBrooks at live.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2025 5:26:17 AM
To: ejrussell61 at gmail.com <ejrussell61 at gmail.com>
Cc: shop-talk at autox.team.net <Shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving


Thanks Eric! They do have a nice selection.



Jack



From: Eric Russell <ejrussell61 at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2025 4:48 PM
To: Jack Brooks <JIBrooks at live.com>
Cc: shop-talk at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving



Check out the offerings at Northern Tool. I have a couple of different versions. The wire rack type are strong but allow small items to fall through. The solid shelf type will benefit from having the (particle board?) shelving reinforced.



Eric Russell

Mebane, NC



On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 6:36?PM Jack Brooks <JIBrooks at live.com<mailto:JIBrooks at live.com>> wrote:

Team,



I?ve moved and gave up a large, dry, lighted, 6 foot high crawlspace, with a concrete floor, for a large, but crowded garage.  I have car parts and other heavy items to store.  I?ve been looking at Home Depot?s selection of higher capacity metal shelving and am a little shell shocked at prices, but not quite motivated to weld up my own shelf setup.

Since most vendors will likely ship, I?d like to find something someone is familiar with, rather than risk having to ship it back if it?s unacceptable. Has anyone found other strong shelves they were able to buy at a good price. I like the HD unit linked below, but I?m not excited about almost a grand after tax. (two units at $449.99 each). These are 7.5 high x 7.5 wide.



https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gladiator-4-Tier-Heavy-Duty-Welded-Steel-Garage-Storage-Shelving-Unit-90-in-W-x-90-in-H-x-24-in-D-GARA904XIG/311632552

What have you seen that you liked?

Jack

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From berry at kerch.com  Sat Mar  8 17:36:51 2025
From: berry at kerch.com (Berry Kercheval)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 16:36:51 -0800
Subject: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving
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I got some super heavy duty shelves for my storage unit (now in one of my
garages (the shelves, not the unit).  I found them on Craigslist, of all
places.  You might be able to find some good condition shelves that way,
for a lot less money.

On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 3:36?PM Jack Brooks <JIBrooks at live.com> wrote:

> Team,
>
>
>
> I?ve moved and gave up a large, dry, lighted, 6 foot high crawlspace, with
> a concrete floor, for a large, but crowded garage.  I have car parts and
> other heavy items to store.  I?ve been looking at Home Depot?s selection of
> higher capacity metal shelving and am a little shell shocked at prices, but
> not quite motivated to weld up my own shelf setup.
>
> Since most vendors will likely ship, I?d like to find something someone is
> familiar with, rather than risk having to ship it back if it?s
> unacceptable. Has anyone found other strong shelves they were able to buy
> at a good price. I like the HD unit linked below, but I?m not excited about
> almost a grand after tax. (two units at $449.99 each). These are 7.5 high x
> 7.5 wide.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gladiator-4-Tier-Heavy-Duty-Welded-Steel-Garage-Storage-Shelving-Unit-90-in-W-x-90-in-H-x-24-in-D-GARA904XIG/311632552
>
> What have you seen that you liked?
>
> Jack
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From stearman809 at gmail.com  Sat Mar  8 18:02:49 2025
From: stearman809 at gmail.com (Karl Vacek)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 19:02:49 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving
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I had that very Gladiator rack in my hangar for about 10 years, and one of 
our daughters has it now.  Strong and highly recommended.

But I think I bought it from Sears years ago for about $200.  Wow - inflation.

I believe Gladiator is made by Whirlpool.  Great quality.  I've now got 
many of their smaller units in my former office and in the garage too.  
Never any concern about strength.

On March 8, 2025 5:34:42 PM Jack Brooks <JIBrooks at live.com> wrote:
> Team,
>
> I?ve moved and gave up a large, dry, lighted, 6 foot high crawlspace, with 
> a concrete floor, for a large, but crowded garage.  I have car parts and 
> other heavy items to store.  I?ve been looking at Home Depot?s selection of 
> higher capacity metal shelving and am a little shell shocked at prices, but 
> not quite motivated to weld up my own shelf setup.
>
> Since most vendors will likely ship, I?d like to find something someone is 
> familiar with, rather than risk having to ship it back if it?s 
> unacceptable. Has anyone found other strong shelves they were able to buy 
> at a good price. I like the HD unit linked below, but I?m not excited about 
> almost a grand after tax. (two units at $449.99 each). These are 7.5 high x 
> 7.5 wide.
>
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gladiator-4-Tier-Heavy-Duty-Welded-Steel-Garage-Storage-Shelving-Unit-90-in-W-x-90-in-H-x-24-in-D-GARA904XIG/311632552
>
>
> What have you seen that you liked?
>
> Jack
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From arvidj999 at gmail.com  Sat Mar  8 20:48:32 2025
From: arvidj999 at gmail.com (Arvid Jedlicka)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 21:48:32 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving
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From mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org  Sat Mar  8 21:57:26 2025
From: mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org (Jimmie Mayfield)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2025 23:57:26 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving
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Best wall shelves I've ever owned were fixtures that came from a Sears 
store that closed.? From the linens department, believe it or not.? They 
hang on wall standards like Closetmaid shelves but the wires are 2-3x as 
thick. 24-inches deep, 45 inches wide (which, of course, made it tedious 
to anchor both standards).? Since they're wall-mounted, they can't carry 
as much weight as the big pallet-rack-type shelves but they don't occupy 
any floor space which is a big net gain in a cramped garage.? I regret 
not buying more when my local store closed.? I haven't found anything 
similar in my online searches or else I'd completely outfit my garage 
and basement with them.

So if you're not in a huge hurry, I recommend you keep an eye for any 
store closings in your area.



On 3/8/25 18:33, Jack Brooks wrote:
>
> Team,
>
> I?ve moved and gave up a large, dry, lighted, 6 foot high crawlspace, 
> with a concrete floor, for a large, but crowded garage.? I have car 
> parts and other heavy items to store. I?ve been looking at Home 
> Depot?s selection of higher capacity metal shelving and am a little 
> shell shocked at prices, but not quite motivated to weld up my own 
> shelf setup.
>
> Since most vendors will likely ship, I?d like to find something 
> someone is familiar with, rather than risk having to ship it back if 
> it?s unacceptable. Has anyone found other strong shelves they were 
> able to buy at a good price. I like the HD unit linked below, but I?m 
> not excited about almost a grand after tax. (two units at $449.99 
> each). These are 7.5 high x 7.5 wide.
>
> https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gladiator-4-Tier-Heavy-Duty-Welded-Steel-Garage-Storage-Shelving-Unit-90-in-W-x-90-in-H-x-24-in-D-GARA904XIG/311632552
>
> What have you seen that you liked?
>
> Jack
>
>
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From JIBrooks at live.com  Sun Mar  9 13:31:06 2025
From: JIBrooks at live.com (Jack Brooks)
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 19:31:06 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving
In-Reply-To: <CH3PR11MB8093B35323C2D181A3F6935CA8D42@CH3PR11MB8093.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
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I want to thank everyone for the shelving suggestions.  Lot's of great ideas to pursue.  I really appreciate the help.

Best!

Jack

From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jack Brooks
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2025 4:33 PM
To: shop-talk at autox.team.net
Subject: [Shop-talk] Garage-Shop Heavy Duty shelving

Team,

I've moved and gave up a large, dry, lighted, 6 foot high crawlspace, with a concrete floor, for a large, but crowded garage.  I have car parts and other heavy items to store.  I've been looking at Home Depot's selection of higher capacity metal shelving and am a little shell shocked at prices, but not quite motivated to weld up my own shelf setup.

Since most vendors will likely ship, I'd like to find something someone is familiar with, rather than risk having to ship it back if it's unacceptable. Has anyone found other strong shelves they were able to buy at a good price. I like the HD unit linked below, but I'm not excited about almost a grand after tax. (two units at $449.99 each). These are 7.5 high x 7.5 wide.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gladiator-4-Tier-Heavy-Duty-Welded-Steel-Garage-Storage-Shelving-Unit-90-in-W-x-90-in-H-x-24-in-D-GARA904XIG/311632552
What have you seen that you liked?

Jack
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From jniolon at att.net  Tue Mar 11 19:50:56 2025
From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 20:50:56 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery jump boxes
References: <1UkI5FrkeE.8PzsneNXkxe.ref@johns-desktop>
Message-ID: <1UkI5FrkeE.8PzsneNXkxe@johns-desktop>

went back a few months looking for thread I seem to remember on jump boxes but 
couldn't find it
 
what was the consensus on the best for the money ??
 
thanks
john
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From mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org  Tue Mar 11 20:56:46 2025
From: mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org (Jimmie Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 22:56:46 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery jump boxes
In-Reply-To: <1UkI5FrkeE.8PzsneNXkxe@johns-desktop>
References: <1UkI5FrkeE.8PzsneNXkxe.ref@johns-desktop>
 <1UkI5FrkeE.8PzsneNXkxe@johns-desktop>
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I don't recall that thread but Project Farm did a comparison of about a 
dozen jumpstarters a while back. The best performers were able to 
jump-start big diesel engines after sitting in the cold.



On 3/11/25 21:50, john niolon wrote:
> went back a few months looking for thread I seem to remember on jump 
> boxes but couldn't find it
> what was the consensus on the best for the money ??
> thanks
> john
>
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From 1789alpine at gmail.com  Wed Mar 12 05:54:53 2025
From: 1789alpine at gmail.com (Jim Stone)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 07:54:53 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery jump boxes
In-Reply-To: <1UkI5FrkeE.8PzsneNXkxe@johns-desktop>
References: <1UkI5FrkeE.8PzsneNXkxe.ref@johns-desktop>
 <1UkI5FrkeE.8PzsneNXkxe@johns-desktop>
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I used to do some consulting with AAA and sometimes rode with their drivers.  They all carried Clore chargers like this one: https://cloreautomotive.com/product/es5000/.  That was good enough for me and I bough one for myself 12 years ago and it has never let me down, even when I have forgotten to refresh the charge every 3 months as they recommend.  They now have a number of different chargers, including some lithium ones that I am sure are equally good.

> On Mar 11, 2025, at 9:50?PM, john niolon <jniolon at att.net> wrote:
> 
> went back a few months looking for thread I seem to remember on jump boxes but couldn't find it
>  
> what was the consensus on the best for the money ??
>  
> thanks
> john
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From dmscheidt at gmail.com  Wed Mar 12 07:37:51 2025
From: dmscheidt at gmail.com (David Scheidt)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 08:37:51 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery jump boxes
In-Reply-To: <4A30B30A-2853-479F-9CED-EC8736413877@gmail.com>
References: <1UkI5FrkeE.8PzsneNXkxe.ref@johns-desktop>
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 7:05?AM Jim Stone <1789alpine at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I used to do some consulting with AAA and sometimes rode with their drivers.  They all carried Clore chargers like this one: https://cloreautomotive.com/product/es5000/.  That was good enough for me and I bough one for myself 12 years ago and it has never let me down, even when I have forgotten to refresh the charge every 3 months as they recommend.  They now have a number of different chargers, including some lithium ones that I am sure are equally good.
>

The clore lead acid jump starters have been the standard for 30 years
or more.  They're generally excellent, but of course, big and heavy
because of the lead acid battery.  The lithium stuff is much lighter,
and surprisingly powerful.  One thing worth noting: you can't run a
car on the lithium packs (or most of them, there might be some that do
this), so if the charging system doesn't work, you can't start it with
the pack and drive it into the shop.  Depending on your goal, that
might matter or might not.  They also have pretty low duty cycle, so
they'll work for starting a car that won't start because the battery
is flat, but they won't start a pre-combustion diesel that requires 30
seconds of cranking to get going.

-- 
David Scheidt
dmscheidt at gmail.com

From pethier7 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 13 13:31:30 2025
From: pethier7 at gmail.com (Philip Ethier)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 14:31:30 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] is IDX credit and identity monitoring services a legit
 outfit?
Message-ID: <CAE16_w1bqpWYq--F8Gj-MVfM-PrwqY2icsehdigV-Z0s-o76CQ@mail.gmail.com>

Stepping out of the shop for a moment:

I got a US mail about a data breach.  The outfit sending the mail was
Change Healthcare.

They say they are going to pay for IDX credit and identity monitoring
services for two years.  Before I tell IDX credit and identity monitoring
services the story of my life, I want to know that

IDX are a real company and legitimately secure
and
that the URL in this US mail is really the genuine IDX

Knowing about the data breach that actully occurred, what's to stop the bad
guys from printing up and mailing hard copies that lead folks down the
garden path to a phony URL and pumping them for all the info in the world?


-- 
Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA
2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white
2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white
2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white
1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white
www.mnautox.com
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Thu Mar 13 13:52:26 2025
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 14:52:26 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] is IDX credit and identity monitoring services a
 legit outfit?
In-Reply-To: <CAE16_w1bqpWYq--F8Gj-MVfM-PrwqY2icsehdigV-Z0s-o76CQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE16_w1bqpWYq--F8Gj-MVfM-PrwqY2icsehdigV-Z0s-o76CQ@mail.gmail.com>
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From ejrussell61 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 13 16:12:21 2025
From: ejrussell61 at gmail.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 18:12:21 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] is IDX credit and identity monitoring services a
 legit outfit?
In-Reply-To: <CAE16_w1bqpWYq--F8Gj-MVfM-PrwqY2icsehdigV-Z0s-o76CQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE16_w1bqpWYq--F8Gj-MVfM-PrwqY2icsehdigV-Z0s-o76CQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP7dBXCV=xc73JRucT+0-a88sFpz09vwGiQpQonb+9F0oPYprg@mail.gmail.com>

I would suggest calling Change Healthcare - if that is an entity you have
done business with.

EjR

On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 6:02?PM Philip Ethier <pethier7 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Stepping out of the shop for a moment:
>
> I got a US mail about a data breach.  The outfit sending the mail was
> Change Healthcare.
>
> They say they are going to pay for IDX credit and identity monitoring
> services for two years.  Before I tell IDX credit and identity monitoring
> services the story of my life, I want to know that
>
> IDX are a real company and legitimately secure
> and
> that the URL in this US mail is really the genuine IDX
>
> Knowing about the data breach that actully occurred, what's to stop the
> bad guys from printing up and mailing hard copies that lead folks down the
> garden path to a phony URL and pumping them for all the info in the world?
>
>
> --
> Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA
> 2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white
> 2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white
> 2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white
> 1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white
> www.mnautox.com
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Shop-talk at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From tjcora at icloud.com  Thu Mar 13 18:45:37 2025
From: tjcora at icloud.com (Thomas Coradeschi)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:45:37 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] is IDX credit and identity monitoring services a
 legit outfit?
In-Reply-To: <CAE16_w1bqpWYq--F8Gj-MVfM-PrwqY2icsehdigV-Z0s-o76CQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE16_w1bqpWYq--F8Gj-MVfM-PrwqY2icsehdigV-Z0s-o76CQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <099E5F46-5483-4D7B-A58B-9AC0EAFAAECB@icloud.com>

Ummm, maybe google?

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=is+idx+credit+and+identity+monitoring+services+legit&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

?
Tom Coradeschi
tjcora at icloud.com


> On 13 Mar 2025, at 3:31 PM, Philip Ethier <pethier7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Stepping out of the shop for a moment:
> 
> I got a US mail about a data breach.  The outfit sending the mail was Change Healthcare.
> 
> They say they are going to pay for IDX credit and identity monitoring services for two years.  Before I tell IDX credit and identity monitoring services the story of my life, I want to know that 
> 
> IDX are a real company and legitimately secure
> and
> that the URL in this US mail is really the genuine IDX
> 
> Knowing about the data breach that actully occurred, what's to stop the bad guys from printing up and mailing hard copies that lead folks down the garden path to a phony URL and pumping them for all the info in the world?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Phil Ethier, West Side, Saint Paul Minnesota, USA
> 2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C, 8.1, white
> 2011 Cayman 2.9 PDK, white
> 2021 Ford F-150 3500cc twin turbo, white
> 1991 Caterham 1700 Super Sprint, not white
> www.mnautox.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> Shop-talk at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.96
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive
> 
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> 


From pethier7 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 13 21:05:55 2025
From: pethier7 at gmail.com (Philip Ethier)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 22:05:55 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] is IDX credit and identity monitoring services a
 legit outfit?
In-Reply-To: <69A7AE34-A2AA-4C4F-A963-F4BD67674B1E@icloud.com>
References: <CAE16_w1bqpWYq--F8Gj-MVfM-PrwqY2icsehdigV-Z0s-o76CQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <69A7AE34-A2AA-4C4F-A963-F4BD67674B1E@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CAE16_w2Zufs71Vs88_p9E5mkztmajOL6GAx5ERU4os=Hk5m+qQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 2:52?PM Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:

> If you do business with Chance Healthcare, phone the number that you have
> in your records for them & tell them what you are telling us. I never
> respond to this kind of email, I always use known contact info.
>

Actually, I don't do business directly with Change Healthcare.

I had never heard of them.  It seems they do business with health providers
and insurance companies with whom I do interact.
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From patintexas at icloud.com  Thu Mar 13 21:53:41 2025
From: patintexas at icloud.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 22:53:41 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] is IDX credit and identity monitoring services a
 legit outfit?
In-Reply-To: <CAE16_w2Zufs71Vs88_p9E5mkztmajOL6GAx5ERU4os=Hk5m+qQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE16_w1bqpWYq--F8Gj-MVfM-PrwqY2icsehdigV-Z0s-o76CQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <69A7AE34-A2AA-4C4F-A963-F4BD67674B1E@icloud.com>
 <CAE16_w2Zufs71Vs88_p9E5mkztmajOL6GAx5ERU4os=Hk5m+qQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c0f812eb-4881-4433-a740-49591509529f@icloud.com>

Sounds like it might be a fishing expedition. Wouldn't hurt to contact 
one of the companies you deal with & ask, or, just ignore it. I've been 
getting a lot of emails lately from folks saying I owe for toll road 
use. I haven't driven toll roads since last summer & I paid them. Plenty 
of folks trying to get money from us.

Peace, Pat

On 3/13/2025 10:05 PM, Philip Ethier wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 2:52?PM Pat Horne <patintexas at icloud.com> wrote:
>
>     If you do business with Chance Healthcare, phone the number that
>     you have in your records for them & tell them what you are telling
>     us. I never respond to this kind of email, I always use known
>     contact info.
>
>
> Actually, I don't do business directly with Change Healthcare.
>
> I had never heard of them.? It seems they do business with?health 
> providers and insurance companies with whom I do interact.
>
>
>
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From pethier7 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 13 21:56:01 2025
From: pethier7 at gmail.com (Philip Ethier)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 22:56:01 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] is IDX credit and identity monitoring services a
 legit outfit?
In-Reply-To: <099E5F46-5483-4D7B-A58B-9AC0EAFAAECB@icloud.com>
References: <CAE16_w1bqpWYq--F8Gj-MVfM-PrwqY2icsehdigV-Z0s-o76CQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <099E5F46-5483-4D7B-A58B-9AC0EAFAAECB@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <CAE16_w3-FH+-Kx-dc8KgqB6OEut9up0LQfYe0TH9sCt8AtBX1A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 7:45?PM Thomas Coradeschi <tjcora at icloud.com> wrote:

> Ummm, maybe google?
>
>
> https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=is+idx+credit+and+identity+monitoring+services+legit&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
>
-

Bingo, Tom.

THe URL that was in the printed stuff was a special one (that did NOT
contain the letters IDX) for folks possibly affected by the original attack
on Change.  There was no way to prove that it was not all a hoax.  I had
signed in there with a login name and a complicated password. The website
classed my password as "Very Strong" and also told me that it was not found
on the Dark Web.  None of this proved it was not all a phish.

I logged out and closed my window.

I have now used the contact URL found in the Money Magazine review to
contact IDX. The site has recognized my login and password.

It seems I am now set up for two free years with a legitimate security
outfit.

Thanks all!
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From tjcora at icloud.com  Fri Mar 14 04:12:39 2025
From: tjcora at icloud.com (Thomas Coradeschi)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 10:12:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Shop-talk] 
 =?utf-8?q?is_IDX_credit_and_identity_monitoring_serv?=
 =?utf-8?q?ices_a_legit_outfit=3F?=
In-Reply-To: <CAE16_w3-FH+-Kx-dc8KgqB6OEut9up0LQfYe0TH9sCt8AtBX1A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE16_w1bqpWYq--F8Gj-MVfM-PrwqY2icsehdigV-Z0s-o76CQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <099E5F46-5483-4D7B-A58B-9AC0EAFAAECB@icloud.com>
 <CAE16_w3-FH+-Kx-dc8KgqB6OEut9up0LQfYe0TH9sCt8AtBX1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e2f18049-4ffc-4828-b5e2-2f4123c9e89c@me.com>

Awesome! (Aside the fact that you need it in the first place) On Mar 14, 2025, at 12:25 AM, Philip Ethier <pethier7 at gmail.com> wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 7:45 PM Thomas Coradeschi < tjcora at icloud.com > wrote: Ummm, maybe google? https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=is+idx+credit+and+identity+monitoring+services+legit&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 - Bingo, Tom. THe URL that was in the printed stuff was a special one (that did NOT contain the letters IDX) for folks possibly affected by the original attack on Change. There was no way to prove that it was not all a hoax. I had signed in there with a login name and a complicated password. The website classed my password as "Very Strong" and also told me that it was not found on the Dark Web. None of this proved it was not all a phish. I logged out and closed my window. I have now used the contact URL found in the Money Magazine review to contact IDX. The site has recognized my login and password. It seems I am now set up for two free years with a legitimate security outfit. Thanks all! _______________________________________________ Shop-talk at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/tjcora at icloud.com
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 05:38:53 2025
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 07:38:53 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] is IDX credit and identity monitoring services a
 legit outfit?
In-Reply-To: <CAE16_w2Zufs71Vs88_p9E5mkztmajOL6GAx5ERU4os=Hk5m+qQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE16_w1bqpWYq--F8Gj-MVfM-PrwqY2icsehdigV-Z0s-o76CQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <69A7AE34-A2AA-4C4F-A963-F4BD67674B1E@icloud.com>
 <CAE16_w2Zufs71Vs88_p9E5mkztmajOL6GAx5ERU4os=Hk5m+qQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO8Q7CMScwGsooOeoK8L88NsY9zRrL0iBPBH55=ewce2WEoNMQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2025, 23:20 Philip Ethier <pethier7 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> Actually, I don't do business directly with Change Healthcare.
>

At my house, we each got a letter, and had the same issue.  It took a bit
of research to discover that they were a company that our insurance
providers used, and they were expected to keep things secure.

"Well done, Change Healthcare!". /s

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From jamesf at groupwbench.org  Fri Mar 14 15:40:36 2025
From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 17:40:36 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery jump boxes
In-Reply-To: <1UkI5FrkeE.8PzsneNXkxe@johns-desktop>
References: <1UkI5FrkeE.8PzsneNXkxe.ref@johns-desktop>
 <1UkI5FrkeE.8PzsneNXkxe@johns-desktop>
Message-ID: <FDF030A3-DE14-4E6D-B79E-2FA0C5B32C80@groupwbench.org>

Project Farm did an episode on this and liked the Noco the best. 2x the cost of the rest but for me worth the money.

jim

> On Mar 11, 2025, at 9:50 PM, john niolon <jniolon at att.net> wrote:
> 
> went back a few months looking for thread I seem to remember on jump boxes but couldn't find it
>  
> what was the consensus on the best for the money ??
>  
> thanks
> john
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From jniolon at att.net  Sun Mar 16 14:17:00 2025
From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 15:17:00 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery jump pack
References: <1UkIAedMgk.JE9sxC057sr.ref@johns-desktop>
Message-ID: <1UkIAedMgk.JE9sxC057sr@johns-desktop>

Well, after all the advice and info, I bought the Clore Automotive Jump-N-Carry 
JNC660 1700 Peak Amp 12 Volt Jump Starter
 

 
hope I'll never get to report on how good it is !
 
thanks
john
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From eric at megageek.com  Sun Mar 16 18:21:21 2025
From: eric at megageek.com (Moose)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 20:21:21 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
Message-ID: <OF290117E5.C21165AC-ON85258C50.00018EE2-85258C50.0001F50E@mail.megageek.com>

Braintrust-

Have any of you ever see this...
https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3


Seems crazy expensive, but I do lots of marine wires and if they are 
really better, I can make the case to buy it.

Anyone ever use it?  There is only one review, and it seemed their were 
problems with the order.

Looking forward to what you all have to say about it.

Couple of pluses, 
Seems to be a very good seal
Don't need to worry about putting the heat tubing on before the 
connection.

Minuses 
I guess you have to used their butt connectors (not really)
Mold release also
Might be hard in a tight spot.

Do you think it's a normal glue gun?  I have a nice cordless one I would 
rather use.

Thanks again
Moose
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Sun Mar 16 18:39:05 2025
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 20:39:05 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
In-Reply-To: <OF290117E5.C21165AC-ON85258C50.00018EE2-85258C50.0001F50E@mail.megageek.com>
References: <OF290117E5.C21165AC-ON85258C50.00018EE2-85258C50.0001F50E@mail.megageek.com>
Message-ID: <CAO8Q7COgAhBNco1XxCVhj0GMp66aomTJDBuBWJKKRSXKYo2KOw@mail.gmail.com>

We used to get 3M heat shrink tubing with glue/sealant inside.  I never had
a problem with that, and it was 1/10th the trouble that this appears to be.

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b5005036041/



On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 8:33?PM Moose <eric at megageek.com> wrote:

> Braintrust-
>
> Have any of you ever see this...
> https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld
> 6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3
> <https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3>
>
>
> Seems crazy expensive, but I do lots of marine wires and if they are
> really better, I can make the case to buy it.
>
> Anyone ever use it?  There is only one review, and it seemed their were
> problems with the order.
>
> Looking forward to what you all have to say about it.
>
> Couple of pluses,
> Seems to be a very good seal
> Don't need to worry about putting the heat tubing on before the connection.
>
> Minuses
> I guess you have to used their butt connectors (not really)
> Mold release also
> Might be hard in a tight spot.
>
> Do you think it's a normal glue gun?  I have a nice cordless one I would
> rather use.
>
> Thanks again
> Moose_______________________________________________
>
> Shop-talk at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From ronnie.day at gmail.com  Sun Mar 16 19:27:50 2025
From: ronnie.day at gmail.com (Ronnie Day)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 20:27:50 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
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Jeff looks very interesting. I?m guessing it comes in a range of sizes?
Where did you get it from?

Thanks, Ron

On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 7:59?PM Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com> wrote:

> We used to get 3M heat shrink tubing with glue/sealant inside.  I never
> had a problem with that, and it was 1/10th the trouble that this appears to
> be.
>
> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b5005036041/
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 8:33?PM Moose <eric at megageek.com> wrote:
>
>> Braintrust-
>>
>> Have any of you ever see this...
>> https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld
>> 6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3
>> <https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3>
>>
>>
>> Seems crazy expensive, but I do lots of marine wires and if they are
>> really better, I can make the case to buy it.
>>
>> Anyone ever use it?  There is only one review, and it seemed their were
>> problems with the order.
>>
>> Looking forward to what you all have to say about it.
>>
>> Couple of pluses,
>> Seems to be a very good seal
>> Don't need to worry about putting the heat tubing on before the
>> connection.
>>
>> Minuses
>> I guess you have to used their butt connectors (not really)
>> Mold release also
>> Might be hard in a tight spot.
>>
>> Do you think it's a normal glue gun?  I have a nice cordless one I would
>> rather use.
>>
>> Thanks again
>> Moose_______________________________________________
>>
>> Shop-talk at autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Mon Mar 17 05:08:04 2025
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 07:08:04 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
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On Sun, Mar 16, 2025, 21:28 Ronnie Day <ronnie.day at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeff looks very interesting. I?m guessing it comes in a range of sizes?
> Where did you get it from?
>


The answer is always McMaster-Carr

https://www.mcmaster.com/products/adhesive-lined-heat-shrink-tubing/

But we probably got it from DigiKey back when I was buying it.  You will
have to poke around in their catalog to find it, though.  This phone screen
is too small.

>
> Thanks, Ron
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 7:59?PM Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We used to get 3M heat shrink tubing with glue/sealant inside.  I never
>> had a problem with that, and it was 1/10th the trouble that this appears to
>> be.
>>
>> https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b5005036041/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 8:33?PM Moose <eric at megageek.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Braintrust-
>>>
>>> Have any of you ever see this...
>>> https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld
>>> 6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3>
>>>
>>>
>>> Seems crazy expensive, but I do lots of marine wires and if they are
>>> really better, I can make the case to buy it.
>>>
>>> Anyone ever use it?  There is only one review, and it seemed their were
>>> problems with the order.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to what you all have to say about it.
>>>
>>> Couple of pluses,
>>> Seems to be a very good seal
>>> Don't need to worry about putting the heat tubing on before the
>>> connection.
>>>
>>> Minuses
>>> I guess you have to used their butt connectors (not really)
>>> Mold release also
>>> Might be hard in a tight spot.
>>>
>>> Do you think it's a normal glue gun?  I have a nice cordless one I would
>>> rather use.
>>>
>>> Thanks again
>>> Moose_______________________________________________
>>>
>>> Shop-talk at autox.team.net
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>>>
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From eric at megageek.com  Mon Mar 17 07:53:26 2025
From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 09:53:26 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
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It was in a video my buddy sent me. 

It seems overpriced, but if it works, I like the idea of not worrying 
about if the tubing is 100% shrunk or not.





From:   Ronnie Day <ronnie.day at gmail.com>
To:     Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com>
Cc:     Moose <eric at megageek.com>, Shop-talk at autox.team.net
Date:   03/16/2025 09:28 PM
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant



Jeff looks very interesting. I?m guessing it comes in a range of sizes? 
Where did you get it from?

Thanks, Ron

On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 7:59?PM Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com> 
wrote:
We used to get 3M heat shrink tubing with glue/sealant inside.  I never 
had a problem with that, and it was 1/10th the trouble that this appears 
to be.

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b5005036041/



On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 8:33?PM Moose <eric at megageek.com> wrote:
Braintrust- 

Have any of you ever see this... 
https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld 
6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3 



Seems crazy expensive, but I do lots of marine wires and if they are 
really better, I can make the case to buy it. 

Anyone ever use it?  There is only one review, and it seemed their were 
problems with the order. 

Looking forward to what you all have to say about it. 

Couple of pluses, 
Seems to be a very good seal 
Don't need to worry about putting the heat tubing on before the 
connection. 

Minuses 
I guess you have to used their butt connectors (not really) 
Mold release also 
Might be hard in a tight spot. 

Do you think it's a normal glue gun?  I have a nice cordless one I would 
rather use. 

Thanks again 
Moose_______________________________________________

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From fitzgibbon3 at comcast.net  Mon Mar 17 09:47:12 2025
From: fitzgibbon3 at comcast.net (Thomas FitzGibbon)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:47:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
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From eric at megageek.com  Mon Mar 17 11:11:58 2025
From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:11:58 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
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Fellow gear-heads,

I have to admit, I'm surprised that everyone seems to be against buying a 
new type of tool! 8>)

Seriously, I currently use these types of heat shrink tubing.  My problems 
is that I never seem to know if I completely 'sealed' them with heat, and 
that is only if I remember to put the tubing on the write PRIOR to making 
the connection.  DOH!  Also, the precut stuff always seems to be 'just 
long enough' if that.

I don't mind putting out the money for this, but I would want to make sure 
it is actually AS GOOD or BETTER than tubing.  Like I said, I do salt 
water marine stuff a lot and would like to make sure things that are 
completely submerged are going to be fine.

I don't like that there doesn't seem to be molds for bigger connections (o 
or greater wire.)

Currently, I typically make the butt connection, then the heat shrink 
tubing, then silicone tape. This would save steps and be neater in the 
end.

But does anyone (preferably someone in the EE field) see any problems with 
this,  or that it isn't as good as heat shrink tubing?

Thanks

Moose



From:   Thomas FitzGibbon <fitzgibbon3 at comcast.net>
To:     Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com>, Ronnie Day 
<ronnie.day at gmail.com>
Cc:     "shop-talk at autox.team.net" <Shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Date:   03/17/2025 12:58 PM
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net>



Glue-lined heat shrink is cheap, easy, fast and effective.  I use it on my 
boat for every wire splice putting it over a glue-lined wire splice 
connector or end terminal.  Just remember to slip the heat shrink on 
before you finish the splice or attach the terminal.  I've been very 
pleased with the pre-cut tubes from Wirefy from Amazon (
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NW7954L?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_4
) but you can also get good quality bulk rolls from Amazon which can be 
more economical than the pre-cut selections. 
On 03/17/2025 7:08 AM EDT Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com> wrote: 
 
 


On Sun, Mar 16, 2025, 21:28 Ronnie Day <ronnie.day at gmail.com> wrote: 
Jeff looks very interesting. I?m guessing it comes in a range of sizes? 
Where did you get it from? 
 
 
The answer is always McMaster-Carr 
 
https://www.mcmaster.com/products/adhesive-lined-heat-shrink-tubing/ 
 
But we probably got it from DigiKey back when I was buying it.  You will 
have to poke around in their catalog to find it, though.  This phone 
screen is too small. 
 
Thanks, Ron 

On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 7:59?PM Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com> 
wrote: 
We used to get 3M heat shrink tubing with glue/sealant inside.  I never 
had a problem with that, and it was 1/10th the trouble that this appears 
to be. 

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b5005036041/ 
 
 

On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 8:33?PM Moose <eric at megageek.com> wrote: 
Braintrust- 

Have any of you ever see this... 
https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld 
6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3 



Seems crazy expensive, but I do lots of marine wires and if they are 
really better, I can make the case to buy it. 

Anyone ever use it?  There is only one review, and it seemed their were 
problems with the order. 

Looking forward to what you all have to say about it. 

Couple of pluses, 
Seems to be a very good seal 
Don't need to worry about putting the heat tubing on before the 
connection. 

Minuses 
I guess you have to used their butt connectors (not really) 
Mold release also 
Might be hard in a tight spot. 

Do you think it's a normal glue gun?  I have a nice cordless one I would 
rather use. 

Thanks again 
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Mon Mar 17 11:51:26 2025
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:51:26 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
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If you want to seal it, squirt some 100% silicone up in the tube before you
shrink it.  Hit it with the heat, and wipe away the excess.  Easy peasy,
wirey squeezy.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 9:53?AM <eric at megageek.com> wrote:

> It was in a video my buddy sent me.
>
> It seems overpriced, but if it works, I like the idea of not worrying
> about if the tubing is 100% shrunk or not.
>
>
>
>
>
> From:        Ronnie Day <ronnie.day at gmail.com>
> To:        Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com>
> Cc:        Moose <eric at megageek.com>, Shop-talk at autox.team.net
> Date:        03/16/2025 09:28 PM
> Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Jeff looks very interesting. I?m guessing it comes in a range of sizes?
> Where did you get it from?
>
> Thanks, Ron
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 7:59?PM Jeff Scarbrough <*fishplate at gmail.com*
> <fishplate at gmail.com>> wrote:
> We used to get 3M heat shrink tubing with glue/sealant inside.  I never
> had a problem with that, and it was 1/10th the trouble that this appears to
> be.
>
> *https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b5005036041/*
> <https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b5005036041/>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 8:33?PM Moose <*eric at megageek.com*
> <eric at megageek.com>> wrote:
> Braintrust-
>
> Have any of you ever see this...
> *https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld
> 6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3*
> <https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3>
>
>
> Seems crazy expensive, but I do lots of marine wires and if they are
> really better, I can make the case to buy it.
>
> Anyone ever use it?  There is only one review, and it seemed their were
> problems with the order.
>
> Looking forward to what you all have to say about it.
>
> Couple of pluses,
> Seems to be a very good seal
> Don't need to worry about putting the heat tubing on before the connection.
>
> Minuses
> I guess you have to used their butt connectors (not really)
> Mold release also
> Might be hard in a tight spot.
>
> Do you think it's a normal glue gun?  I have a nice cordless one I would
> rather use.
>
> Thanks again
> Moose_______________________________________________
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Mon Mar 17 11:55:37 2025
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 13:55:37 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
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Looking at it further, how does the mold ensure that the splice connector
is completely surrounded by sealant?  Any method of holding the splice
could also leave an opening to the metal portion, I'm thinking.  Or
overthinking?

On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 8:33?PM Moose <eric at megageek.com> wrote:

> Braintrust-
>
> Have any of you ever see this...
> https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld
> 6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3
> <https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3>
>
>
> Seems crazy expensive, but I do lots of marine wires and if they are
> really better, I can make the case to buy it.
>
> Anyone ever use it?  There is only one review, and it seemed their were
> problems with the order.
>
> Looking forward to what you all have to say about it.
>
> Couple of pluses,
> Seems to be a very good seal
> Don't need to worry about putting the heat tubing on before the connection.
>
> Minuses
> I guess you have to used their butt connectors (not really)
> Mold release also
> Might be hard in a tight spot.
>
> Do you think it's a normal glue gun?  I have a nice cordless one I would
> rather use.
>
> Thanks again
> Moose_______________________________________________
>
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From JIBrooks at live.com  Mon Mar 17 22:01:01 2025
From: JIBrooks at live.com (Jack Brooks)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 04:01:01 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
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I will second Wirefy products.  I?ve used their shrink tube, terminals and connectors in my Sprinter van build.  Good, solid performance from a mundane component.  Their crimper is rock solid too.

Jack

From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Thomas FitzGibbon
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2025 9:47 AM
To: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com>; Ronnie Day <ronnie.day at gmail.com>
Cc: shop-talk at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant

Glue-lined heat shrink is cheap, easy, fast and effective.  I use it on my boat for every wire splice putting it over a glue-lined wire splice connector or end terminal.  Just remember to slip the heat shrink on before you finish the splice or attach the terminal.  I've been very pleased with the pre-cut tubes from Wirefy from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09NW7954L?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_4) but you can also get good quality bulk rolls from Amazon which can be more economical than the pre-cut selections.
On 03/17/2025 7:08 AM EDT Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com<mailto:fishplate at gmail.com>> wrote:



On Sun, Mar 16, 2025, 21:28 Ronnie Day <ronnie.day at gmail.com<mailto:ronnie.day at gmail.com>> wrote:
Jeff looks very interesting. I?m guessing it comes in a range of sizes? Where did you get it from?


The answer is always McMaster-Carr

https://www.mcmaster.com/products/adhesive-lined-heat-shrink-tubing/

But we probably got it from DigiKey back when I was buying it.  You will have to poke around in their catalog to find it, though.  This phone screen is too small.

Thanks, Ron

On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 7:59?PM Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com<mailto:fishplate at gmail.com>> wrote:
We used to get 3M heat shrink tubing with glue/sealant inside.  I never had a problem with that, and it was 1/10th the trouble that this appears to be.

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b5005036041/



On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 8:33?PM Moose <eric at megageek.com<mailto:eric at megageek.com>> wrote:
Braintrust-

Have any of you ever see this...
https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld 6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3<https://www.amazon.com/SpliSeal-Professional-Kit-Complete-Connectors/dp/B0D9B8DCTW/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3BUKL0P7IVNW9&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.3Vxo7hR7mEIZ12qx2hsVtgw_kpHNEDXU0ensnUgqGLMqzHtH1jgBc3PlzJU5eSi3rQJTzyk84gcxa-O93kQVc5Ayt7RY4c1WGvHjW1cJOwfbotkXaaBBMl0Zm7WyBNEiuKWSDpLTpS7C9ETdliro6ZPNYxvI97c1qawWiTSQYe_dkzYi2mMD2tl-YL1OM1sWCoUTCt6dQUuNx8XIWpbtIZvKQKJzF7CCh9i82mlJ4bg.c3aPekELXi9S7dY-5c2uW2t1ipGSld6iTm8nqC1TsIY&dib_tag=se&keywords=spliseal+hot+glue+wire+splice+molds&qid=1742170485&sprefix=spliseal+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3>


Seems crazy expensive, but I do lots of marine wires and if they are really better, I can make the case to buy it.

Anyone ever use it?  There is only one review, and it seemed their were problems with the order.

Looking forward to what you all have to say about it.

Couple of pluses,
Seems to be a very good seal
Don't need to worry about putting the heat tubing on before the connection.

Minuses
I guess you have to used their butt connectors (not really)
Mold release also
Might be hard in a tight spot.

Do you think it's a normal glue gun?  I have a nice cordless one I would rather use.

Thanks again
Moose_______________________________________________

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From jblair1948 at cox.net  Tue Mar 18 08:04:21 2025
From: jblair1948 at cox.net (John T Blair)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 14:04:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Shop-talk] Wire splice sealant
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   On Monday, March 17, 2025 at 01:49:13 PM EDT, Moose wrote:  
>I have to admit, I'm surprised that everyone seems to be against buyinga new type of tool! 8>)

Moose,
I don't really think it's anything revolutionary,? just convient!.? Having a bunch of precut piece of heat shrink is handy.? I don't see it's worth what they are charging for their kit.

>Seriously, I currently use these typesof heat shrink tubing. ?My problems is that I never?>seem to know ifI completely 'sealed' them with heat, and that is only if I remember toput?>the tubing on the write PRIOR to making the connection. ?DOH!?Also, the precut stuff?>always seems to be 'just long enough' if that. 

Exactly.? I prefer to have my own collection of different sizes of heat shrink.? I buy it from a local shop.? No I can control the length.
For my outside Coax connectors, after they are soldered to the coax,? I connect the connector to the antenna or a barrel to bring the cable into the house.? I then wrap the connector with water proof tape which you can get at Home depot :1. Temflex 2155 - heres an alternative:
? ?? ? a. Nashua Stretch & Seal self-fusing silicone tape - $8/10ft - Aisle 09, Bay 014
?????? b. Scotch/3M 2242 tape - $6/15ft -2. The above tape is NOT UV safe so I then wrap that tape with? Scotch Super 88 black electrical tape.
A lot depend on what your trying to make/fix/install.? For trying to repair a new car wiring harness is a real pain in the A$$.? I've used some of those butt splices with the low temp solder.? They seem to work well.
JohnT

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From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com  Fri Mar 21 17:53:09 2025
From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 23:53:09 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] private VPN
Message-ID: <MN6PR14MB7197F76870E269AD0D74F2C4B4DB2@MN6PR14MB7197.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

Apologies as I am certain that this has been cussed and discussed before but I didn't keep track of this before....

I have a need (want?) for one now.

So, what do y'all use?

Cheers
tim
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 20:56:30 2025
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 19:56:30 -0700
Subject: [Shop-talk] private VPN
In-Reply-To: <MN6PR14MB7197F76870E269AD0D74F2C4B4DB2@MN6PR14MB7197.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MN6PR14MB7197F76870E269AD0D74F2C4B4DB2@MN6PR14MB7197.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CADkpZwGhDbpOStBeTRKtrHUUc6b1jm5jGr1kC0y-7PMJVkuN_g@mail.gmail.com>

I use tailscale. My use case is to access my home network while traveling,
as well as protection from others on open WiFi networks at hotels,
airports, coffee shops, etc.

This does NOT obscure my traffic from my ISP, so if that's what you need a
different solution would be in order.

________________
Sent from my phone
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Fri, Mar 21, 2025, 4:58?PM Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com> wrote:

> Apologies as I am certain that this has been cussed and discussed before
> but I didn't keep track of this before....
>
> I have a need (want?) for one now.
>
> So, what do y'all use?
>
> Cheers
> tim
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From lee at automate-it.com  Tue Mar 25 14:18:51 2025
From: lee at automate-it.com (lee at automate-it.com)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 15:18:51 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] FYI: it's still possible to buy good tools at a good
 price
Message-ID: <c188a33224de138eadbeeab1034d7411@automate-it.com>

I needed a new torque wrench but had trouble finding one with the specs 
I wanted. I don't ever need to reach 250 ft-lbs, I'd like to measure 
down to 10 or 20 ft-lbs, and I didn't want a no-name brand. I wanted 
1/2" drive. I guess that the electronic ones are nice to have, but 
they're twice the price as the "click" ones. I had trouble meeting these 
criteria.

Then I found the place to get original Craftsman tools that may have 
been cleared out of stores that closed. Yep, sears.com. I found exactly 
what I wanted: Crafsman 1/2" drive, 10 to 150 ft-lbs click wrench. 
Original price: $139.99. Currently available at $54.99. I jumped on it.

I feared that this might be a Chinese fake one or worse, but the return 
policy was solid. It arrived in a few days - and DAYUM, this is just 
what I wanted. Clearly original Craftsman quality, comes in the 
old-school case like a lot of the Sears tools did. It still had the 
security tag on it (i.e. this was originally in a store somewhere and 
they didn't want it to get stolen). I was reinstalling my TR6 front 
suspension with all new bushings etc. so plenty of chances to test it 
out, and it works beautifully (and feels great in my hands).

There are plenty of other tool options there; if you're looking for a 
good tool I recommend it. The one I bought is still showing 
availability, plenty of others available too (at highly discounted 
prices):
   
https://www.sears.com/craftsman-1-2-8221-dr-10-150-ft-lb-torque-wrench-24t/p-A102532141
A lot of the tools I looked at were more than 50% discounted. The one I 
bought did NOT offer free shipping, but some of the pricier tools do.

As usual, YMMV.
  Lee

From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com  Sat Mar 29 15:42:07 2025
From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 21:42:07 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] private VPN
In-Reply-To: <MN6PR14MB7197F76870E269AD0D74F2C4B4DB2@MN6PR14MB7197.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
References: <MN6PR14MB7197F76870E269AD0D74F2C4B4DB2@MN6PR14MB7197.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <MN6PR14MB7197604B74A3DE1E081C7C11B4A32@MN6PR14MB7197.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>

For those of you who use SurfShark, do you ever stream live sports on your computer? If so, do you have issues with the audio and video not being synced?

I am currently watching live darts from Portsmouth, UK and am having this issue. (The only way I can watch these live darts events is by spoofing my location as being in the UK.) I am wondering if it is the vpn or the site I am watch on....

thanks
________________________________
From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 6:53 PM
To: Shop Talk <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Shop-talk] private VPN

Apologies as I am certain that this has been cussed and discussed before but I didn't keep track of this before....

I have a need (want?) for one now.

So, what do y'all use?

Cheers
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From mbarre at juno.com  Sat Mar 29 20:05:19 2025
From: mbarre at juno.com (Matt)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2025 02:05:19 GMT
Subject: [Shop-talk] ULTRASONIC CLEANING
Message-ID: <20250329.220519.25858.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>

What does the group have to say about preferred fluids for ultrasonic cleaning?  I had always heard just water with a few drops of detergent. My wife came to me asking to clean her jewelry and she wanted to know if I had enough "pine sol" Who told you to use Pine Sol?!?  One of her friends!

Figured I would Pulse the group on it.

From mbarre at juno.com  Sat Mar 29 20:18:23 2025
From: mbarre at juno.com (Matt)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2025 02:18:23 GMT
Subject: [Shop-talk] PR96-133 Lubrication Servicing Unit
Message-ID: <20250329.221823.25858.1@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>

A buddy wants me to go in with him on a project. Some guy has subject equipment (4K # on a trailer) he wants to get rid of. My google fu reveals a diesel powered assembly but is very short of details. It sounds like it has a compressor, pumps and some tanks. This started because I was looking for a diesel generator around 20kw and the Last thing I need is additional projects! Especially one with no clear need or objective unless someone has a column of tanks that need service!

From miq at bigllama.com  Sat Mar 29 20:53:31 2025
From: miq at bigllama.com (MIQ MILLMAN)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 19:53:31 -0700
Subject: [Shop-talk] ULTRASONIC CLEANING
In-Reply-To: <20250329.220519.25858.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20250329.220519.25858.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CAASF5jESiCoC5gTmpjEfMK7Sbwrmi8fR85Or_FO1bP7==SK+OA@mail.gmail.com>

I run just distilled water in the tank.

I put the dirty bits in zip top bags filed with what ever solution I think
works best.  Sometimes I'll use windex, or a home mix of water+rubbing
alcohol+dawn dish soap+baking soda.

Seal up the bag with the parts plus concentrated solution, run the cleaner
for 30 min or so, and the tank and water stays clean.

If the grungy bits aren't too bad, I can reuse the zip top + solution
again, and I keep the bag of fluid in an old plastic costco nuts container
with a wide screw top lid.

  --Miq

On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 7:14?PM Matt <mbarre at juno.com> wrote:

> What does the group have to say about preferred fluids for ultrasonic
> cleaning?  I had always heard just water with a few drops of detergent. My
> wife came to me asking to clean her jewelry and she wanted to know if I had
> enough "pine sol" Who told you to use Pine Sol?!?  One of her friends!
>
> Figured I would Pulse the group on it.
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From eric at megageek.com  Sat Mar 29 20:54:41 2025
From: eric at megageek.com (eric at megageek.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 21:54:41 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] ULTRASONIC CLEANING
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The trick I use is to fill the tank with water, then, fill a glass bottle 
with gas. Put the item in the glass, and put the glass in the water.

The ultrasonic waves pass right through the glass and this way you only 
need a little gas instead of filling the entire tank with gas.

Note, I don't put a lid on the jar, and I fill the tank with water up to 
the rim of the glass jar.

Moose



From:   "Matt" <mbarre at juno.com>
To:     shop-talk at autox.team.net
Date:   03/29/2025 09:13 PM
Subject:        [Shop-talk] ULTRASONIC CLEANING
Sent by:        "Shop-talk" <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net>



What does the group have to say about preferred fluids for ultrasonic 
cleaning?  I had always heard just water with a few drops of detergent. My 
wife came to me asking to clean her jewelry and she wanted to know if I 
had enough "pine sol" Who told you to use Pine Sol?!?  One of her friends!

Figured I would Pulse the group on it.
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From mbarre at juno.com  Sun Mar 30 05:40:44 2025
From: mbarre at juno.com (Matt)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2025 11:40:44 GMT
Subject: [Shop-talk] ULTRASONIC CLEANING
Message-ID: <20250330.074044.11074.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>

2 excellent responses right off the bat!  
Thanks guys!


---------- Original Message ----------
From: MIQ MILLMAN <miq at bigllama.com>
To: Matt <mbarre at juno.com>
Cc: Shop Talk <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] ULTRASONIC CLEANING
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 19:53:31 -0700

I run just distilled water in the tank.?
I put the dirty bits in zip top bags filed with what ever solution I think works best.? Sometimes I&#39;ll use windex, or a home mix of water+rubbing alcohol+dawn dish soap+baking soda.?
Seal up the bag with the parts plus concentrated solution, run the cleaner for 30 min or so, and the tank and water stays clean.??
If the grungy bits aren&#39;t too bad, I can reuse the zip top + solution again, and I keep the bag of fluid in an old plastic costco nuts container with a wide screw top lid.?
? --Miq
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 7:14?PM Matt <mbarre at juno.com> wrote:
What does the group have to say about preferred fluids for ultrasonic cleaning?? I had always heard just water with a few drops of detergent. My wife came to me asking to clean her jewelry and she wanted to know if I had enough "pine sol" Who told you to use Pine Sol?!?? One of her friends!

Figured I would Pulse the group on it.
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From shop-talk2 at mcfetridge.org  Sun Mar 30 06:44:52 2025
From: shop-talk2 at mcfetridge.org (Ian McFetridge)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2025 08:44:52 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] ULTRASONIC CLEANING
In-Reply-To: <20250330.074044.11074.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20250330.074044.11074.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CAFnfnRWgRCepnoeTFW15AxPN8tn012TZw7CEeDJvCUsyHUEPqQ@mail.gmail.com>

We use distilled water in my wife?s jewelry cleaner.  I believe that?s what
the instructions said.  Works great.

On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 7:46?AM Matt <mbarre at juno.com> wrote:

> 2 excellent responses right off the bat!
> Thanks guys!
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: MIQ MILLMAN <miq at bigllama.com>
> To: Matt <mbarre at juno.com>
> Cc: Shop Talk <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] ULTRASONIC CLEANING
> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 19:53:31 -0700
>
> I run just distilled water in the tank.
> I put the dirty bits in zip top bags filed with what ever solution I think
> works best.  Sometimes I&#39;ll use windex, or a home mix of water+rubbing
> alcohol+dawn dish soap+baking soda.
> Seal up the bag with the parts plus concentrated solution, run the cleaner
> for 30 min or so, and the tank and water stays clean.
> If the grungy bits aren&#39;t too bad, I can reuse the zip top + solution
> again, and I keep the bag of fluid in an old plastic costco nuts container
> with a wide screw top lid.
>   --Miq
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2025, 7:14?PM Matt <mbarre at juno.com> wrote:
> What does the group have to say about preferred fluids for ultrasonic
> cleaning?  I had always heard just water with a few drops of detergent. My
> wife came to me asking to clean her jewelry and she wanted to know if I had
> enough "pine sol" Who told you to use Pine Sol?!?  One of her friends!
>
> Figured I would Pulse the group on it.
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From jamesf at groupwbench.org  Sun Mar 30 06:57:13 2025
From: jamesf at groupwbench.org (Jim Franklin)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2025 08:57:13 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] ULTRASONIC CLEANING
In-Reply-To: <20250329.220519.25858.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>
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I've only done carbs but the Pine Sol works for me. I "learned" it from more than a few of my motorcycling pals. Might be one of those things that just has legs but it works for me and is cheap and easily disposed of.

jim

> On Mar 29, 2025, at 10:05 PM, Matt <mbarre at juno.com> wrote:
> 
> What does the group have to say about preferred fluids for ultrasonic cleaning?  I had always heard just water with a few drops of detergent. My wife came to me asking to clean her jewelry and she wanted to know if I had enough "pine sol" Who told you to use Pine Sol?!?  One of her friends!
> 
> Figured I would Pulse the group on it.
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From JIBrooks at live.com  Sun Mar 30 10:34:44 2025
From: JIBrooks at live.com (Jack Brooks)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2025 16:34:44 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] ULTRASONIC CLEANING
In-Reply-To: <20250329.220519.25858.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20250329.220519.25858.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <CH3PR11MB80938EB34CA6AA180A3F87E8A8A22@CH3PR11MB8093.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

My wife has been thrilled with the ultrasonic cleaning using tap water and a few drops of simple green. 

Great post!  I've learned a lot.

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2025 8:05 PM
To: shop-talk at autox.team.net
Subject: [Shop-talk] ULTRASONIC CLEANING

What does the group have to say about preferred fluids for ultrasonic cleaning?  I had always heard just water with a few drops of detergent. My wife came to me asking to clean her jewelry and she wanted to know if I had enough "pine sol" Who told you to use Pine Sol?!?  One of her friends!

Figured I would Pulse the group on it.
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From mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org  Sun Mar 30 19:12:22 2025
From: mayfield+shoptalk at sackheads.org (Jimmie Mayfield)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2025 21:12:22 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] ULTRASONIC CLEANING
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References: <20250329.220519.25858.0@webmail08.vgs.untd.com>
 <CH3PR11MB80938EB34CA6AA180A3F87E8A8A22@CH3PR11MB8093.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <837d6b13-154d-41c5-82b5-dc2e3937a6f4@sackheads.org>

I've had good luck using the purple version of Simple Green (shouldn't 
they call it "Simple Purple"?) for general things around the garage 
including getting oil stains out of concrete floors so I have no doubt 
it would do well in a ultrasonic cleaner.? I'll have to try it.

J

On 3/30/25 12:34, Jack Brooks wrote:
> My wife has been thrilled with the ultrasonic cleaning using tap water and a few drops of simple green.
>
> Great post!  I've learned a lot.
>
> Jack