From bk13 at earthlink.net  Wed Jul  1 22:06:37 2026
From: bk13 at earthlink.net (Brian Kemp)
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2026 04:06:37 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] USB powered dash camera?
Message-ID: <6e778e22-d452-728d-8676-21203201aecb@earthlink.net>

I have this one in my car:
https://www.amazon.com/ROVE-R2-4K-DUAL-STARVIS-Included/dp/B0D6J5B98H/
It has dual cameras so you can see front and rear views.  Rove also has a hard wire kit that provides continuous power for impact recording.  


After several other models over the last decade, I decided for higher resolution and the rear camera.  It was very helpful as evidence when an e-bike ran a red light and into the side of the car in front of me.  The rear cam showed him jumping up right away as I was looking for a place to pull over.


Brian


-----Original Message-----
From: James Juhas <james.f.juhas at snet.net>
Sent: Jun 29, 2026 9:05 PM
To: Shop Talk List <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Shop-talk] USB powered dash camera?


              My wife's Mazda 3 does not have a traditional 12v power      port/cigar lighter but does have powered USB jacks. Does anyone      know of a dash camera brand and model that is powered from a 5v      USB port? 
    Shop content: if I can find one I don't have to re-wire the car      in my shop.
    Jim
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From jniolon at att.net  Fri Jul  3 17:05:18 2026
From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2026 18:05:18 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up
References: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov.ref@johns-desktop>
Message-ID: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov@johns-desktop>

had my second Walmart Neverstart battery explode in my generator.....
 
what's the best clean up material for this   Soda wash??
 
john
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From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  3 22:08:16 2026
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2026 21:08:16 -0700
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up
In-Reply-To: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov@johns-desktop>
References: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov.ref@johns-desktop>
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Message-ID: <CADkpZwGmSssh=xb4Zn=Vx9wcv8z7VcvJVvPc22Vphsv78JEtSQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hard to think of anything better, but where the run off will go is a
consideration.

I guess it goes without saying that careful PPE is called for.

What is causing the batteries to go? Overcharge? Overvoltage? Short circuit?

Something as dangerous as multiple batteries going off calls for some
serious investigation and root cause analysis.

________________
Sent from my phone
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Fri, Jul 3, 2026, 7:49?PM john niolon <jniolon at att.net> wrote:

> had my second Walmart Neverstart battery explode in my generator.....
>
> what's the best clean up material for this   Soda wash??
>
> john
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sat Jul  4 07:49:48 2026
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 06:49:48 -0700
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up
In-Reply-To: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov@johns-desktop>
References: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov.ref@johns-desktop>
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Message-ID: <93a8c8af-bd17-4fb5-b440-15b43f28d161@comcast.net>

Yep (BTDT). And copious amounts of water.

Bob


On 7/3/2026 4:05 PM, john niolon wrote:
> had my second Walmart Neverstart battery explode in my generator.....
> what's the best clean up material for this?? Soda wash??
> john
>
> _______________________________________________
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From bspidell at comcast.net  Sun Jul  5 08:10:40 2026
From: bspidell at comcast.net (Bob Spidell)
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2026 07:10:40 -0700
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up
In-Reply-To: <CADkpZwGmSssh=xb4Zn=Vx9wcv8z7VcvJVvPc22Vphsv78JEtSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov.ref@johns-desktop>
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 <CADkpZwGmSssh=xb4Zn=Vx9wcv8z7VcvJVvPc22Vphsv78JEtSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <88955ded-4ee7-45d3-9b25-fb7a89933026@comcast.net>

Overcharge caused by overvoltage. The only I know of that causes an 
explosion like that is hydrogen gas caused by overcharging along with a 
source of ignition. That's why it is now recommended to ground to the 
chassis, instead of the neg. terminal, when jump starting. Note even 
'maintenance free' batteries have vents.

I ruined a battery on an 'old school trickle' charger; they are constant 
current power supplies and will keep pumping electrons even after the 
battery if fully charged. The newer smart chargers know when to stop.

bs

On 7/3/2026 9:08 PM, Al Fuller wrote:
> Hard to think of anything better, but where the run off will go is a 
> consideration.
>
> I guess it goes without saying that careful PPE is called for.
>
> What is causing the batteries to go? Overcharge? Overvoltage? Short 
> circuit?
>
> Something as dangerous as multiple batteries going off calls for some 
> serious investigation and root cause analysis.
>
> ________________
> Sent from my phone
> Best Regards,
> Al Fuller
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2026, 7:49?PM john niolon <jniolon at att.net> wrote:
>
>     had my second Walmart Neverstart battery explode in my generator.....
>     what's the best clean up material for this?? Soda wash??
>     john
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From tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com  Sun Jul  5 09:18:27 2026
From: tims_datsun_stuff at outlook.com (Tim .)
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2026 15:18:27 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up
In-Reply-To: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov@johns-desktop>
References: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov.ref@johns-desktop>
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Walmart....hmmmm.....this sure seems like a "fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, etc etc" situation....,
________________________________
From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of john niolon <jniolon at att.net>
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 6:05 PM
To: shop-talk <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up

had my second Walmart Neverstart battery explode in my generator.....

what's the best clean up material for this   Soda wash??

john[cid:1UnF2YrkGi.2J5sUmBx3eK at johns-desktop]
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Mon Jul  6 09:01:52 2026
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2026 11:01:52 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR14MB28627A583B1BA900BECA67D8B4F22@MN2PR14MB2862.namprd14.prod.outlook.com>
References: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov.ref@johns-desktop>
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I've used dozens of WalMart batteries with no problems.  If I recall, there
are a very limited number of battery manufacturers in the US.  Maybe 95%
are made by one of two companies.


>
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From lee at automate-it.com  Mon Jul  6 13:43:32 2026
From: lee at automate-it.com (lee at automate-it.com)
Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2026 14:43:32 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] Garden hose quick connects
In-Reply-To: <CANTtcaJsqVNLQw2yTboGhGHDX8iKbTKYxQjSNNsKHxsv-V34rA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANTtcaJsqVNLQw2yTboGhGHDX8iKbTKYxQjSNNsKHxsv-V34rA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5af44223d60f08c60f10b903ff72e41c@automate-it.com>

I have a bunch of water hose quick-connect fittings, maybe two different 
brands, all are the metal versions. Similar to these:

They are useful, but not really "quick", and often stuck or unable to 
connect smoothly, etc.
Home Depot has Orbit and Ryobi brands, plus some plastic ones.
Any suggestions about a premium brand that works better? I've tried the 
plastic ones, they work too but I'm an expert at breaking them. Are 
there more robust plastic opinions? I recall that the plastic ones 
seemed to be easier to attach/remove.
I see a "Gorilla" brand that appears to include an o-ring - looks like a 
good idea, anyone used these?
Lowe's has options also, including the Kobalt brand that also has the 
o-ring.

I use my water hoses a LOT, having a convenient way to quickly connect 
my various devices is a big plus at my house.
Please let us know if you've found a best brand !

Lee
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From jniolon at att.net  Mon Jul  6 17:01:05 2026
From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2026 18:01:05 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up
In-Reply-To: <CAO8Q7CM7Ny1WQ++imDBcSvhCbsYcWVDoA9ECctJKw4gsqQO-8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov.ref@johns-desktop>
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Message-ID: <1UnF5prhp5.2b7QbzdcOrw@johns-desktop>

Over the years, me too Jeff...but the last two did it for me.  Went to a local 
battery rebuilder/ seller and got a 'blemished'  Grp 36r - 650 cca
3 yr warranty... same as the neverstart from Walmart...?.$66.00 including tax . 
 I asked him if he had seen this before with a "Wallybattery" and
he just laughed and said "Yea...probably three or four a month" 

Made up a paste of baking soda and coated everything on that side of the 
genset... lotsa of bubbling  then rinsed it down and installed new
battery... 
I'm good to go now
 
john
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com>
To: 
Cc: shop-talk <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Sent: 07/06/2026 10:01:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up



I've 
used dozens of WalMart batteries with no problems.  If I recall, there are a 
very limited number of battery manufacturers in the US.  Maybe 95% are made by 
one of two companies.  
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From tjcora at icloud.com  Mon Jul  6 22:34:58 2026
From: tjcora at icloud.com (Tom Coradeschi)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 00:34:58 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up
In-Reply-To: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov@johns-desktop>
References: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov@johns-desktop>
Message-ID: <D4E534AF-FFB9-43A9-BC5D-6D5E46558710@icloud.com>

That would be my go-to answer!

Tom Coradeschi
tjcora at icloud.com

> On Jul 3, 2026, at 11:40?PM, john niolon <jniolon at att.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
> had my second Walmart Neverstart battery explode in my generator.....
>  
> what's the best clean up material for this   Soda wash??
>  
> john
> <IMG_0021.jpeg>
> _______________________________________________
> 
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From doug at dougbraun.com  Tue Jul  7 06:06:27 2026
From: doug at dougbraun.com (Doug Braun)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 08:06:27 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up
In-Reply-To: <1UnF5prhp5.2b7QbzdcOrw@johns-desktop>
References: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov.ref@johns-desktop>
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How can a battery be rebuilt these days?

Doug

On Tue, Jul 7, 2026, 6:13?AM john niolon <jniolon at att.net> wrote:

> Over the years, me too Jeff...but the last two did it for me.  Went to a
> local battery rebuilder/ seller and got a 'blemished'  Grp 36r - 650 cca
> 3 yr warranty... same as the neverstart from Walmart...?.$66.00 including
> tax .
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From fishplate at gmail.com  Tue Jul  7 09:57:26 2026
From: fishplate at gmail.com (Jeff Scarbrough)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 11:57:26 -0400
Subject: [Shop-talk] Fwd:  Garden hose quick connects
In-Reply-To: <CAO8Q7CM+C2bvjRLOS_vdhfQhU67cvu9qzhafV9=AykhirXe7qw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANTtcaJsqVNLQw2yTboGhGHDX8iKbTKYxQjSNNsKHxsv-V34rA@mail.gmail.com>
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Left the rest of you curious folks off my reply...

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Jul 7, 2026, 11:56
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Garden hose quick connects
To: Lee Daniels <lee at automate-it.com>


I use the Dixon brand.  Used to be DGH7 on Amazon, but seems to be
superceded by the 5000QCK.  $18 at Amazon, by half that on this site that I
know nothing about.

https://hosewarehouse.com/products/500qck-by-dixon-valve-garden-hose-quick-disconnect-coupling-3-4-male-ght-x-3-4-female-ght-complete-assembly-unvalved-brass

I've used mine for more than a decade with no problem.  I had to replace
the rubber seal in a couple of older ones, but it was a simple task once
you find a source for the seals.

HTH

Jeff the S
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

P.S. just checked my order history - my most recent order was exactly ten
years ago.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2026, 04:16 <lee at automate-it.com> wrote:

> I have a bunch of water hose quick-connect fittings, maybe two different
> brands, all are the metal versions. Similar to these:
> [image: image.png]
> They are useful, but not really "quick", and often stuck or unable to
> connect smoothly, etc.
> Home Depot has Orbit and Ryobi brands, plus some plastic ones.
> Any suggestions about a premium brand that works better? I've tried the
> plastic ones, they work too but I'm an expert at breaking them. Are there
> more robust plastic opinions? I recall that the plastic ones seemed to be
> easier to attach/remove.
> I see a "Gorilla" brand that appears to include an o-ring - looks like a
> good idea, anyone used these?
> Lowe's has options also, including the Kobalt brand that also has the
> o-ring.
>
> I use my water hoses a LOT, having a convenient way to quickly connect my
> various devices is a big plus at my house.
> Please let us know if you've found a best brand !
>
> Lee
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Shop-talk at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From lee at automate-it.com  Tue Jul  7 15:05:09 2026
From: lee at automate-it.com (lee at automate-it.com)
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2026 16:05:09 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] Fwd:  Garden hose quick connects
In-Reply-To: <CAO8Q7COugBRQ-=PRXdPGUEbA8vLMerswvLdqONAwWpzBgyDB=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANTtcaJsqVNLQw2yTboGhGHDX8iKbTKYxQjSNNsKHxsv-V34rA@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks, Jeff, just the kind of info I wanted.

The brass set from Dixon shows up for $7.92, but there's also an option 
for stainless steel - sure, that sounds like a good upgrade... but WHOA, 
$45 for one hose connector is outside of my window...

I did find a stainless set of 5 pair for $31.88 on Amazon, I may give 
those a try too.

Lee

On 2026-07-07 10:57, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Jul 7, 2026, 11:56
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Garden hose quick connects
> To: Lee Daniels <lee at automate-it.com>
> 
> I use the Dixon brand.  Used to be DGH7 on Amazon, but seems to be 
> superceded by the 5000QCK.  $18 at Amazon, by half that on this site 
> that I know nothing about.
> 
> https://hosewarehouse.com/products/500qck-by-dixon-valve-garden-hose-quick-disconnect-coupling-3-4-male-ght-x-3-4-female-ght-complete-assembly-unvalved-brass
> 
> I've used mine for more than a decade with no problem.  I had to 
> replace the rubber seal in a couple of older ones, but it was a simple 
> task once you find a source for the seals.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Jeff the S
> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
> 
> P.S. just checked my order history - my most recent order was exactly 
> ten years ago.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2026, 04:16 <lee at automate-it.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have a bunch of water hose quick-connect fittings, maybe two 
>> different brands, all are the metal versions. Similar to these:
>> 
>> They are useful, but not really "quick", and often stuck or unable to 
>> connect smoothly, etc.
>> Home Depot has Orbit and Ryobi brands, plus some plastic ones.
>> Any suggestions about a premium brand that works better? I've tried 
>> the plastic ones, they work too but I'm an expert at breaking them. 
>> Are there more robust plastic opinions? I recall that the plastic ones 
>> seemed to be easier to attach/remove.
>> I see a "Gorilla" brand that appears to include an o-ring - looks like 
>> a good idea, anyone used these?
>> Lowe's has options also, including the Kobalt brand that also has the 
>> o-ring.
>> 
>> I use my water hoses a LOT, having a convenient way to quickly connect 
>> my various devices is a big plus at my house.
>> Please let us know if you've found a best brand !
>> 
>> Lee
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From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Jul  7 16:29:22 2026
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 16:29:22 -0600
Subject: [Shop-talk] Garden hose quick connects
In-Reply-To: <5af44223d60f08c60f10b903ff72e41c@automate-it.com>
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I'm sure I related this story before, but here it is again.

One weekend I was at a home improvement store and got several of water 
hose quick connects.  I installed them on some of my garden hoses, they 
worked just fine.  And I assumed they were just like my quick connects 
on all my air hoses and tools in the shop.  So I went to disconnect a 
water hose under pressure.

That's a mistake you only make once!

mjb, the soggy.


From alfuller194 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  8 19:17:26 2026
From: alfuller194 at gmail.com (Al Fuller)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2026 18:17:26 -0700
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up
In-Reply-To: <88955ded-4ee7-45d3-9b25-fb7a89933026@comcast.net>
References: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov.ref@johns-desktop>
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Yeah, I parted with most of my old-school chargers a while ago.

I guess in a world where I have unlimited time I would research, build and
install some smarts on the one remaining dumb charger, but that's in an
alternate universe ...

________________
Sent from my phone
Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Sun, Jul 5, 2026, 5:09?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

> Overcharge caused by overvoltage. The only I know of that causes an
> explosion like that is hydrogen gas caused by overcharging along with a
> source of ignition. That's why it is now recommended to ground to the
> chassis, instead of the neg. terminal, when jump starting. Note even
> 'maintenance free' batteries have vents.
>
> I ruined a battery on an 'old school trickle' charger; they are constant
> current power supplies and will keep pumping electrons even after the
> battery if fully charged. The newer smart chargers know when to stop.
>
> bs
>
> On 7/3/2026 9:08 PM, Al Fuller wrote:
>
> Hard to think of anything better, but where the run off will go is a
> consideration.
>
> I guess it goes without saying that careful PPE is called for.
>
> What is causing the batteries to go? Overcharge? Overvoltage? Short
> circuit?
>
> Something as dangerous as multiple batteries going off calls for some
> serious investigation and root cause analysis.
>
> ________________
> Sent from my phone
> Best Regards,
> Al Fuller
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2026, 7:49?PM john niolon <jniolon at att.net> wrote:
>
>> had my second Walmart Neverstart battery explode in my generator.....
>>
>> what's the best clean up material for this   Soda wash??
>>
>> john
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Jul  9 12:48:26 2026
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2026 18:48:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Shop-talk] battery explosion clean up
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References: <1UnF2YrkHD.3fdSA2QBkov.ref@johns-desktop>
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Old school chargers are just a transformer and a rectifier.? There is nothing to regulate the voltage.? Most of the better ones had a timer to limit the charge.??
The newer, "smart" chargers will not overcharge a battery when working properly.? But all bets are off it there is a shorted cell in the battery.?
Dave 


 

    On Wednesday, July 8, 2026 at 08:35:00 PM CDT, Al Fuller <alfuller194 at gmail.com> wrote:   

 Yeah, I parted with most of my old-school chargers a while ago.?
I guess in a world where I have unlimited time I would research, build and install some smarts on the one remaining dumb charger, but that's in an alternate universe ...
________________
Sent from my phone 
Best Regards,
Al Fuller
On Sun, Jul 5, 2026, 5:09?PM Bob Spidell <bspidell at comcast.net> wrote:

  Overcharge caused by overvoltage. The only I know of that causes an explosion like that is hydrogen gas caused by overcharging along with a source of ignition. That's why it is now recommended to ground to the chassis, instead of the neg. terminal, when jump starting. Note even 'maintenance free' batteries have vents.?
 
 I ruined a battery on an 'old school trickle' charger; they are constant current power supplies and will keep pumping electrons even after the battery if fully charged. The newer smart chargers know when to stop.
 
 bs
 
 On 7/3/2026 9:08 PM, Al Fuller wrote:
  
  Hard to think of anything better, but where the run off will go is a consideration. 
  I guess it goes without saying that careful PPE is called for. 
  What is causing the batteries to go? Overcharge? Overvoltage? Short circuit? 
  Something as dangerous as multiple batteries going off calls for some serious investigation and root cause analysis. 
  ________________
 Sent from my phone 
 Best Regards,
 Al Fuller  
  On Fri, Jul 3, 2026, 7:49?PM john niolon <jniolon at att.net> wrote:
  
  had my second Walmart Neverstart battery explode in my generator..... ? what's the best clean up material for this?? Soda wash?? ? john  _______________________________________________
 
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From jniolon at att.net  Thu Jul  9 16:27:05 2026
From: jniolon at att.net (john niolon)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2026 17:27:05 -0500
Subject: [Shop-talk] SPARK PLUG/WIRE/COIL PACK KIT
References: <1UnF96OLmQ.5fJuWGmivD3.ref@johns-desktop>
Message-ID: <1UnF96OLmQ.5fJuWGmivD3@johns-desktop>

been chasing an intermittent miss in my 2008 Suburban with a 5.3
 
about ready to just buy a complete kit with packs, wires and plugs.. prices are 
all over the place
 
anyone got a brand they recommend ??   AC Delco prices are high...they want as 
much for wires along
as some whole kits cost...
 
100,000 on the engine so it's probably time
 
thanks
john
 
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From dirtbeard at gmail.com  Thu Jul  9 21:09:50 2026
From: dirtbeard at gmail.com (Douglas Shook)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2026 03:09:50 +0000
Subject: [Shop-talk] SPARK PLUG/WIRE/COIL PACK KIT
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Have you tried Rock Auto?
2008 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN 1500 5.3L V8 Ignition Coil | RockAuto<https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/chevrolet,2008,suburban+1500,5.3l+v8,1441045,ignition,ignition+coil,7060>

________________________________
From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of john niolon <jniolon at att.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2026 3:27 PM
To: shop-talk <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Shop-talk] SPARK PLUG/WIRE/COIL PACK KIT

been chasing an intermittent miss in my 2008 Suburban with a 5.3

about ready to just buy a complete kit with packs, wires and plugs.. prices are all over the place

anyone got a brand they recommend ??   AC Delco prices are high...they want as much for wires along
as some whole kits cost...

100,000 on the engine so it's probably time

thanks
john

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